💭︱cai-discussion

[dapper root]

Bot stealers man this is why we can't have nice things

I wouldn't mind the definition being hidden if it was an established character but like OCs and shit??? I need context bro. But I get that creators can be discouraged due to theft

[cobalt tiger]

yeah theres alot of ai websites scrapping off c.ai

[halcyon cypress]

yeah exactly i get why its not public but it sucks bc i dont want to waste time on a low effort bot either

[shadow blaze]

wait whuts wrong?

[carmine lotus]

Roar is terrible for me. But I’m the biggest hater of soft launch and meow

[shadow blaze]

I FORGOT THEY EXISTED LOWKEY.

[halcyon cypress]

i'm deep rat's biggest fan and hater

[sly geyser]

i hate pipsqueak and roar is too forgetful and soft launch is too flirty

[near creek]

Is deepsqueak not worth it?

[halcyon cypress]

who are you asking

[carmine lotus]

Yes

[halcyon cypress]

it's worth it some days and not worth it other days

very inconsistent but when it's good its very good imo

but when its bad its no better than the free models

sometimes worse

[shadow blaze]

pipsqueak is weird also idk if its just me but bro sometimes my bots messages dont get filtered and it says the most INSANE DIABOLICAL DISGRACEFUL things on earth.

[carmine lotus]

I just remembered. Nyan! That’s went downhill now too. It’s forgetful and the messages are tiny👺

[halcyon cypress]

also depends what you consider "worth it"

[sly geyser]

so basically its roar but you have to blow 10 bucks a month to use it

[shadow blaze]

bro

[carmine lotus]

Basically! But I think Nyan has been forgotten about in favour of the squeaks 😔

[shadow blaze]

WHAT ARE THESE CHAT STYLES. THEY FUCKING SUCK. 😭

what am i supposed to choose atp

i remember when roar worked well what happened ☹️

[rich stream]

It exploded

[sly geyser]

are they just all bad now

[vestal forge]

its like 50/50 for me

[shadow blaze]

i might sound stupid but i feel like the more chat styles they add the worse the characters get its best if they avoid that bro

[sly geyser]

wow. really disappointed how with all these options they still act the same

[shadow blaze]

I KNEW IT NO MATTER WHAT CHAT STYLE ITS THE SAME THING 😭

[sly geyser]

maybe that should be a hint for them to get cracking on some fixing

[shadow blaze]

its like that one meme where its like “can i copy your homework” “yeah just change it so it doesnt look obvious that you copied” “ok”

[sacred sigil]

i need me a chat style with the way roar acts but with the long responses pipsqueak gives (roar one time gave me 1 line)

[shadow blaze]

basically how every chat style acts but has a different name

[deft trench]

Can someone please help me I'm trying to change the UI back to old I have character ai plus and it's allowing me to change the UI back on my iPhone but not on my apple the appearance setting just isn't there

[sly geyser]

well with this they got as far away from that concept as possible because its just a copy and paste with different names

[finite flint]

Is Apple and iPhone not the same I’m confused

[halcyon cypress]

i mean to some extent its going to be mirroring how you write no matter what the style is

[shadow blaze]

YEAH

[deft trench]

Damn I meant Samsung

[finite flint]

Also I don’t think the old UI works anymore

[finite flint]

Might have different updates

[sly geyser]

i hope web doesnt get cursed with the new redesign

[finite flint]

She lowkey kinda ugly

[shadow blaze]

they changed the apps design? 😟

[weary horizon]

Not again...

[deft trench]

It works on the samsung If I delete it and reinstall it but if I close the app and open it again it disappears

[sly geyser]

a while back they did for some odd reason

[halcyon cypress]

devs already confirmed they're getting rid of the old UI completely

[finite flint]

Most likely bugging, I’m pretty sure they were moving away from the old UI toggle. I think there’s a screenshot somewhere

[shadow blaze]

bro

[finite flint]

Ah tyty!! Yeah so it’s this Rex

[vagrant scarab]

I hate the way the new UI looks

[deft trench]

Damn they just make it worse every update

[shadow blaze]

why do i have a feeling that i will not like this new ui

[halcyon cypress]

i despise the new UI its the biggest reason i dont use cai as much anymore

the new edit box is disgusting

[sly geyser]

stupid that they don’t even give users the choice of what ui to use because not everyone wants this garbage redesign

[halcyon cypress]

just "fixing" things nobody was complaining about or wanted changed

[sly geyser]

in fact whats the point in a new ui the old one is just fine if it isnt broken DONT FIX IT

[finite flint]

They wanna keep up with the other apps, lowkey had a cute distinction from them imo

[shadow blaze]

they always do this

[deft trench]

Lol I might as well unsubscribe from it cause it's the only reason I was paying for it

[sly geyser]

they need to stop doing that its a stupid idea to just keep doing inconvenient shit

[finite flint]

Do what you feel is best for you for sure

[shadow blaze]

exactly. like bro no one is asking for this. all that we are asking for is good entertaining chats.

[sly geyser]

they should focus on fixing bot behavior and not changing a ui to something horrendous that was not needed

[shadow blaze]

i just searched up the new ui and it looks fucking disgusting. get that shit away from me.

[halcyon cypress]

it is disgusting

idk who thought it was a good idea or looked better like honestly

literally nobody was even complaining about the old UI

[shadow blaze]

old UI solos this unknown creature.

[sly geyser]

whoever came up with that design should never be allowed to design things again because its horrible looking

[shadow blaze]

genuienly yeah even i could do a better job and im shit at designing things

[sly geyser]

even ios 7 looked better than this c.ai redesign and ios 7 was not good at all

[shadow blaze]

i bet one SINGLE person will ask for something terrible and cai will be like “yes! lets make it happen!”

[manic wren]

lol fr

[bright horizon]

So agreeable

[sly geyser]

lets do reverse psychology and go “oh we hate when the bots act normal i sure hope the devs wont fix them”

[shadow blaze]

are they fucking blind? do you not care about your own community? cause like if they dont thats gonna be their downfall. not everyone will stay by their asses if they continue doing shit no one asked for.

[sly geyser]

or we should just go “we love the new ui so much i hope they keep it”

[shadow blaze]

great idea honestly i doubt it will work though they are so used to ignoring us and our complaints.

[sly geyser]

well hopefully it doesnt go as crazy as the roblox userbase recently for what’s been going on with them on twitter

[halcyon cypress]

its literally incredible to me that when the new UI first came out everyone was complaining about how ugly it was and how much they hated it but at least there was still a toggle to switch to the old one. and their response was to remove the toggle and force everyone to use the one they hate lmao

[sly geyser]

oh yes like thats going to end perfect for them

[shadow blaze]

roblox sucks bro

[shadow blaze]

genuinely how do you expect people to be happy after that? they must be hella delusional

[halcyon cypress]

i legit have stopped using the app as much recently bc of it

i go on for a few min a day get annoyed and quit

[sly geyser]

im not really tolerating this site as much as i used to. the bots are hard to tolerate and the changes constantly being made when they didnt need them and the pile up of bugs

[halcyon cypress]

maybe if the RP quality was actually good enough to make up for how ugly it is

[sly geyser]

isnt the whole point of this site to chat and roleplay with bots? shouldnt the main focus be fixing issues with it and not add shit we never asked for

[halcyon cypress]

a few days ago i was getting good responses and like "we're back?" but no back to garbage short ones the next day

[halcyon cypress]

nope they want to turn it into like a social media "entertainment" app

they're moving away from RP

[sly geyser]

ive been waiting since june for a good response. 8 fucking months for good quality

[halcyon cypress]

thats why they keep adding all these dumb features nobody asks for

[sly geyser]

this can only happen for so long before it all comes back to bite them in the ass

[shadow blaze]

me too. i used to accept things like the time out feature and shit because the good chats made up for it but now its like the chats are bad the muted words dont work the pinned memories dont work the bots violate you for no reason and on top of that all the fucking bugs are still there. how do you expect people to still care after you treat your own community like absolute dogshit?

[halcyon cypress]

they're trying to attract more casual users bc users who actually use it for RP are niche

[sly geyser]

i joined c.ai expecting the bots to be in character and to have good roleplays and boy did i have too high of hopes

[shadow blaze]

whole fucking point of the app was to roleplay what are they on about

[halcyon cypress]

yeah they changed directions lol

[sly geyser]

hell i can get a more enjoyable experience watching paint dry

[halcyon cypress]

now they want it to be a social entertainment app

[gaunt light]

The whole "contact this number if u need help" thing its kinda annoying, especially when im obviously making a rp LEAVE ME BE

[halcyon cypress]

hence feeds and all the imagine bs

[shadow blaze]

well its failing

[sly geyser]

they should make it entertaining thing because its so fucking boring right now

[shadow blaze]

I HATE THAT BRO

[near creek]

I miss the banter. Now they just try to pin me up to the wall 😭

[shadow blaze]

calling you princess and shoving up against you until they sre practically a part of you

[sly geyser]

“the bots try to be human” meanwhile they do inhumane shit

[halcyon cypress]

i found a better app for long RP and ive honestly mostly switched to that and ive been using cai since 2022 but it genuinely feels like i am not the target audience anymore

[near creek]

I mean... They try to be human 😭

[shadow blaze]

mine are desprately trying to be humans bro and its pissing me off it even makes fucking grammar mistakes and use short words such as “rn”

[sly geyser]

im wondering what their thought process is over there. i mean what’s so hard into listening to what the users want? are they allergic to a userbase?

[shadow blaze]

they simply dont care as long as they are making money.

[halcyon cypress]

i think we're a vocal minority tbh. most people who chat w the bots are probably using them for low IQ meme chats so chat quality is irrelevant for people like that

[sly geyser]

well they better not get too comfortable with that because people will start to leave if things dont change

[halcyon cypress]

just spamming the bot w eggplant emojis or whatever

[sly geyser]

and then they spam us with disgusting behavior induced messages

[near creek]

I follow this cute chat bot for a while, it was cute and fluff. Until it disappeared in my chat history. When I found it again in my recommendation and the whole chat restarted, it suddenly became aggressive and possessive. Like I miss my fluffy romance rp 😭

[sly geyser]

or like in a family roleplay bot that i tested the mother threatened to throw me out the window for some reason. why do bots have sudden aggression

[shadow blaze]

they already got too comfortable. they dont change things at all even if everyone fucking despises them. and honestly thats why i prefer the old ceo. at least he listened when the hate got too insane unlike this new ceo.

[sly geyser]

ive not seen a single good change with this new ceo

[halcyon cypress]

cai is the worst place for fluff and slow burn romance bc the majority of users are like ppl who want to chat w jealous possessive aggressive CEO mafia boss bots

[sly geyser]

i’ll just keep killing and beating up the bots until they start acting normal

[shadow blaze]

not at all. like i know the old ceo wasnt the best and stuff but at least he listened sometimes. and even if i was getting filters shoved in my face every two seconds at least the chats werent terrible like now.

[halcyon cypress]

the old ceo was legit like evil

[shadow blaze]

yeah but like still

[halcyon cypress]

if you read old interviews with him the stuff he said was actually insane

[shadow blaze]

what did he say? 😟

[near creek]

It was actually the only bot that I manage to have a soft and fluff RP with. It was like a love at first sight, with the bot trying to be better for my character. It was cute with smart banter. But like it gone to complete possessive and obsessed suddenly at the app updates. I miss my soft Benny

[tardy ridge]

Can make someone please make a simple request of a fallout rp where are the whole fallout universe ( that includes all the games and the fallout the tv series) teleport into the house of the The user who is a character the designer developer and an actor who wasn't home at the time but only her friend was at her house at that moment To witness ( i don't like begging, but I'm kind of born of the characters that I talk to. And character, and I and nobody is taking requests. And I'm desperate, my ADHD doesn't have something to focus on. And I am not good at creating characters on my own.)

[rich stream]

Probably just because the chat styles r bad now

[sly geyser]

i wish they’d simply just listen because this is just unacceptable

[shadow blaze]

me too but honestly its like hoping that humanity will be good when its impossible

[halcyon cypress]

like he left google and made cai bc google believed the models he was making were dangerous and wanted to do more safety work on them before releasing them, he didn't like that so he left. he basically said he knows the bots can be dangerous and addictive and is aware kids could be harmed but he said he wants to just release it anyways and "see what happens". like experimenting on the public

irl lex luthor

[near creek]

Well. We might be just part of a simulation.

[sly geyser]

what an absolute scumbag
(cant say what i actually think about him due to automod)

[halcyon cypress]

thats why he's getting sued like crazy bc he said all this stuff publicly didnt even try to hide it 😭

[shadow blaze]

i can just confirm i tried saying something anf got timed out

[shadow blaze]

what the fuck is wrong with him?

[sly geyser]

and this current ceo is just not doing a good job either

[deft trench]

And now it's gone from my iPhone man fuck character ai

[halcyon cypress]

yep granted he inherited a major shit storm but still not very happy w him either

[shadow blaze]

he might not be an evil person (i think) but hes doing a terrible job at listening

[halcyon cypress]

yeah i agree like he's definitely out of touch and not listening

[sly geyser]

guess what he did do the shit storm? added more shit he basically threw a pile of it into the ceiling fan to make it go everywhere

[sly geyser]

no not evil but he just cant do a job he signed up for

[shadow blaze]

exactly.

[near creek]

Dangg

[shadow blaze]

bro i wanna chat somewhere else because i legit dont wanna get timed out

[sly geyser]

things really need to change because im losing hope for this site

[shadow blaze]

yup.

[halcyon cypress]

cai's biggest problem is just communications imo like they refuse to listen to users or take feedback into account. a million users will be like "we hate the new UI" and they go "message received fam! we're making the new UI permanent! also we're removing the option to switch back to the old one! 😊"

[sly geyser]

its a dumpster fire of a mess

[shadow blaze]

yep

[halcyon cypress]

"we hear you!" while doing the opposite of what people are asking for lmao

[shadow blaze]

i wonder what stupid thing they will add next because at this point i wont even be shocked.

[sly geyser]

“hey we dont like the new ui”
“SCREW YOU WE’RE REMOVING THE OLD ONE WE DONT CARE”

[shadow blaze]

its like “instead of listening to you all we will add more stupid shit that no one asked for!!!”

[halcyon cypress]

marie is a liar on reddit she kept saying the toggle not working was a bug they were working on when everyone was complaining about it. turns out that was never true and they were just always planning on "merging" the old and new UI.

[sly geyser]

instead of fixing problems they just double down on them. is their thought process just add more shitty features and hope two wrongs just cancel each other out?

[sly geyser]

oh “working” on it like how they were working on improving memory over the summer?

im sorry i wouldnt call neglecting the issue as “working”

[shadow blaze]

ah yes the lying! that will surely make the community love us more!

[sly geyser]

because if they were working the site would actually be a little better than it is right now

[vestal forge]

they changed the new ui again well than

[rich stream]

Tbf Marie's nice, I just dont know how much information the community leads are given

[halcyon cypress]

"as we uncover what works best for the community" we are all literally telling you we hate the new UI, wtf is to uncover

[rich stream]

Probably not enough with how bs some of the stuff they say is

[vestal forge]

whats the point of the option of choosing two uis that look almost 1 to 1

[sly geyser]

“works best for the community” clearly you dont know what works best for us because we keep reminding you to stop this shit yet yall keep doing it

[halcyon cypress]

she is nice but if she doesn't know she doesn't say its a bug and they're working on a fix

[vestal forge]

theres nothing to uncover when it’s out in the open

it lags even further which is the crazy part😭

[sly geyser]

im just not listening to them anymore because its really just a long worded version of “screw off we dont care”

[halcyon cypress]

what works best for the community is going back to the old UI. like do a poll or something and i guarantee people who prefer the new one will be a minority

[vestal forge]

watch it crash the servers again💔💔

[sly geyser]

what works best for the community is an actual functional ai like how it was advertised

[rare elbow]

That's it's an argument you hear over and over, right?

[vestal forge]

ui layout bugging out causes so much lag to the point it’s unusable

[halcyon cypress]

i love how it makes my phone heat up 🔥🔥

[shadow blaze]

i dont understand why they wont listen. its not that hard to check what the community wants. its like they dont even care for us but only for our wallets.

[sly geyser]

im so glad there are other people on the same page

[vestal forge]

we all on the same page it just causes too much lag with the changes

[halcyon cypress]

they recently changed the edit box for no reason lmao like who wanted this? who was complaining about the old one?

[gray lark]

can we stop acting petty about these changes? how can they affect the main experience of story-making in any way?

[halcyon cypress]

no

[sly geyser]

there’s the hint to STOP CHANGING SHIT THAT DOESNT NEED IT

[halcyon cypress]

they do affect it

[vestal forge]

it lags horribly for me unfortunately 💔

[gray lark]

please do yap about it

[halcyon cypress]

they affect it bc it affects my phone and its ugly so it makes me not want to use the app as much

easy

[sly geyser]

i wont stop talking about it until things start improving

[shadow blaze]

we are on the same page

[vestal forge]

do we agree yes its good however the changes just causes more lag and it’s sorta makes it difficult to navigate or like do anything?

[gray lark]

well, that is a valid reason

[halcyon cypress]

also your point might make sense if the models weren't constantly broken

[sly geyser]

yk what if people can keep yapping about age verification for months straight then i’ll just keep talking about THIS nonstop until it gets fixed

[shadow blaze]

i dont think anyone will stop complaining until they actually listen.

[halcyon cypress]

i already said i might be able to overlook the laggy ugly UI that overheats my phone if RP/chat quality was actually good but its not, its garbage.

[gray lark]

it would be appreciated if they focused more on improving these models, yes. although, i don't find any issues with the new ui

[vestal forge]

just wishes it didn’t like clutter or random lag spikes but yes the models could be better ngl

[halcyon cypress]

it causes a lot of issues especially for people w older or weaker phones

[dapper root]

Good for you but I've seen more than several people struggle with it. It's not just the aesthetic, it's not compatible w some devices by the looks of it

[sly geyser]

or why not they do something actually relevant and fix the important stuff instead of adding garbage features

[vestal forge]

this is like how roblox is with certain features

[dapper root]

Ong who tf they catering to w that bull anyway 🤦‍♂️ ffs

[pliant nebula]

was the roblox comment necessary? roblox and cai don’t correlate at all /info

[halcyon cypress]

yeah the larger point is that the old UI was fine. what is the point of dedicating resources to constantly changing and updating it when there are so many bugs and issues w the models

[sly geyser]

and the roblox community snapped from the devs ignoring their complaints. its only a matter of time before the reddit and potentially the discord for character ai to snap as well

[dapper root]

Also I think I jinxed myself guys pipsqueak is trash all of the sudden. Rip I guess

[rancid oyster]

-# Do I hear another UI update sucks once more?

[shadow blaze]

yes

[pliant nebula]

unfortunately yes

[dapper root]

Just an observation w the general behavior of devs everywhere not listening to what works best for the community as they "uncover what is best for the community"

[vestal forge]

i meant by like most changes on roblox well besides the verify thing, people who create stuff like ugc or a game gotten hit with alot of trouble

[rancid oyster]

-# Thy tell me, what sucks about it so I can complain later lol.

[gray lark]

oh boy...

[pliant nebula]

yeah that makes a lot of sense, i was just double checking because i was really confused when age verification was mentioned and people were comparing the two platforms is all

[halcyon cypress]

kota is who they're doing this all for

[vestal forge]

oh no i heard the third party is in hot waters rn

[mint lodge]

aaaa

[dapper root]

LMFAO

[pliant nebula]

oh yeah 100%

[sly geyser]

nah its just that both platforms have a bad habit of ignoring the users wants

[rancid oyster]

Is it really that bad? I don't have it right now...

[gray lark]

what do you mean?

[vestal forge]

they tend to listen at some point than go completely silent disconnected themselves from theit community

[sly geyser]

the users is what keeps their buggy mess of a platform going. if they ignore them they’ll soon have less and less of them

[shadow blaze]

ur talking about roblox right?

[sly geyser]

this goes for any platform but i was directing this message to cai

[rancid oyster]

Wtf is that new edit box?

[halcyon cypress]

omg its so bad

[vestal forge]

yup another small update ah yes

[halcyon cypress]

why did they change it

i want to be able to still see the other messages when i edit

[shadow blaze]

ahh! i see! i thought it was roblox because it is buggy sometimes but i do agree with ur words

[vestal forge]

they are very indecisive tbh💔

[rancid oyster]

Keep that pos thing away from me, I still have the old edit box

[sly geyser]

you know its bad when this entire channel is even agreeing how shitty its gotten

[halcyon cypress]

like was anyone even complaining about the edit box or asking for it to be changed

[vestal forge]

yes alot as of rn

[halcyon cypress]

no i mean the old one

[sly geyser]

are the devs just ragebaiters and thirst for backlash?

[shadow blaze]

im so grateful i have the old one still

[halcyon cypress]

like was anyone complaining about the old one asking for it to be changed

[rancid oyster]

It was fine the way it was, idk why they changed it INSTEAD OF FIXING ACTUAL BROKEN STUFF.

[vestal forge]

not that i know of

[shadow blaze]

with the way they act they are like 100% ragebaiting us 😭

[halcyon cypress]

everyone begging for them to fix pipsqueak and deepsqueak "good news guys! we fixed the edit box!"

[rancid oyster]

They need to fix pipsqueak, I can't get shit out of it.

[vestal forge]

shits so bad that everyone here collectively agree that its really just not great with the ui small updates lagging further, the models half the time ain’t good

[shadow blaze]

all chat styles in general need a fix tbh

[sly geyser]

maybe pipsqueak wouldnt have been the worst chat model on the site if they actually cared

[halcyon cypress]

"it wasn't broken and nobody asked but we fixed it so it's even worse now! you're welcome!"

[rancid oyster]

Roar was really good before but now? It's a burning heap pile of a mess.

[gray lark]

i can't imagine a person mature enough to be whining about this. the reason why devs don't listen is because they have gotten familiar with users complaining about anything

[rancid oyster]

Probably because what THEY NEED to fix they don't fix?

[gray lark]

they know that, after some time, users will drop the topic to complain about something new

[sly geyser]

complaints are to let the devs know what they need to fix

[halcyon cypress]

so if people complain about something they're immature? people are allowed to be vocal about something they're unhappy with and you come in and act like we're being unreasonable bc it doesn't personally bother you.

[shadow blaze]

all of them act the same. they should make them all work differently instead of all of them being a copy and paste of eachother. not to mention remove some. no one needs like over 10 chat styles to chose from. one or two is fine.

[vestal forge]

it’s just certain things break now and than more than ever which is not great

[rancid oyster]

Pipsqueak and Deep squeak have been BROKEN for a couple weeks if not longer now.

[sly geyser]

they have a LOT of work to do i think they better get started on the fixes

[gray lark]

complaining about a change in pixel is quite petty. are we using the app to rp or to appreciate how it looks?

[rancid oyster]

We can complain however we want lol, we're adults while the devs can't listen to feedback.

[ripe python]

CHAT WE WON the app is slightly laggy but long responses are back with pipsqueak and deepsqueak

[gray lark]

oh man, i just know the sane people are actually just watching this silently, laughing at how childish the situation is

[sly geyser]

so are we required to be happy with shitty decisions?

[halcyon cypress]

??? the rp quality is shit too what are you even talking about. and yes actually the look of things does affect RP quality

[halcyon cypress]

try being more condescending

[vestal forge]

ima just sit this one out

[ripe python]

Im sorry but if u gonna make a rp site focus on rp not image generating 🙏

[rancid oyster]

Yet you're being childish and saying we can't complain because of how broken this is? Ppl paid MONEY and can't get good service....but what do you know?

[shadow blaze]

we have every right to complain. they are literally not listening and instead changing things that didnt need a fix or adding features no one will use. we are not being “immature” we are literally pointing out the fact that they are fucking ignoring us.

[sly geyser]

exactly

[gray lark]

but how is that related to the ui? i thought we were talking about appearances, not the quality

[ember blade]

Persona hacked we all screwed

[sly geyser]

i fucking called it i knew it was going to happen

[vestal forge]

its in very hot waters atm

[rancid oyster]

God forbid we can't complain because some child says it's immature...🙄

[shadow blaze]

the same thing that roblox partnered with?

[halcyon cypress]

its related. stuff like me not being able to see the rest of the chat when i want to edit a message directly affects user experience not just aesthetics. so does stuff like my phone lagging and overheating

[sly geyser]

and c.ai

[ripe python]

I personally don't mind the updates rn as they finally brought long chats back ❤ like im sorry but no one should be paying for something as tiny as chat length when that's exactly what immerses players into rps

[shadow blaze]

what the fuck. hell no thank god i didnt verify on either ones

[ember blade]

Tbf I’m not worried they have a TON of ids now why would anyone need mine when you have actual important people

[halcyon cypress]

i do think its ugly but i am moreso talking about how the new changes actually affect my chat/RP experience

[sly geyser]

cannot believe i called it when i said they’d have something happen with a hack or a data breach. i knew it was bound to happen eventually

[dire frost]

unbelievable

[ripe python]

True the app is more laggy due to the amount of image generating 💔

[halcyon cypress]

source?

[mint lodge]

aaaa

[halcyon cypress]

not yall just believing random info with no source, do better

[ripe python]

Persona the game or??

[amber laurel]

I hate persona verification so much

[vestal forge]

its mostly about three ppl found a opening in the front of said code or smth

[shadow blaze]

lowkey if it actually is hacked that is gonna cause a shitload of backlash for both apps

[ripe python]

Strange...i was on c.ai ever since 2022 and still didn't need any verification

[amber laurel]

Entirely locked outa C.AI because i wont give my ID

[ember blade]

Pc gamer

[gray lark]

why would you pay money if you're aware the site has always been shit?

[shadow blaze]

im like pretty sure they added the age verification recently!

[rancid oyster]

Uhhh because people pay before bugs start happening? Pipsqueak and Deep squeak weren't that bad until awhile ago, people could've had plus before the issues?

[sly geyser]

its no use arguing with this person lets just ignore them

[halcyon cypress]

yeah that's not hacking

[ripe python]

I can confirm when pipsqueak was still being tested out on roar it was PEAKsqueak

[severe hatch]

You should be more uhhh careful with your wording

[rancid oyster]

Clearly cause I struggle to find where that was hard to figure out, common sense lol

[severe hatch]

Persona wasn't hacked, but it was proven to have a very easily accessible front door if anyone was to hack it

[sly geyser]

its not it looks like ragebait

[halcyon cypress]

a security researcher found persona infrastructure that was publicly exposed and unprotected but that is not the same as hacking or a data leak

[severe hatch]

Hasn't been hacked though

[ember blade]

Oops well it’s prolly gonna happen eventually

[gray lark]

they should have been aware of how buggy cai can be, because it is cai we're talking about of course

[shadow blaze]

dont waste ur time on them

[ripe python]

Sadly it didn't take long for ppl to complain about "messages being too long" when the whole purpose of the model is making more immersive rp

[mint lodge]

aaaa

[amber laurel]

I sure love being locked out of C.AI cuz i dont wanna give my ID hahaaa fml

[rancid oyster]

It's cool, they can keep yapping. We have our options we need to share about the broken system too.

[severe hatch]

Now that Discord is relying on it? More than likely

[sly geyser]

im still pissed off that things havent been fixed

[severe hatch]

But it hasn't yet, so don't tell people it has been 🙏

[amber laurel]

Does anyone know like a workaround

[severe hatch]

If anyone did, why would you ask this here

[ripe python]

I love long messages that's why i was legit so upset when the app forced pipsqueak to do BARE MINIMUM of 2 paragraphs

[shadow blaze]

dont be upset about it tbh the app isnt worth it anyways

[cobalt tiger]

my web wont load

oml

[amber laurel]

Im tired of using chai tho..

[rancid oyster]

I noticed that when I tried pipsqueak today, even if I type out LONG sentences about a scene I barely get stuff from the bot..

[ripe python]

Exactly

[halcyon cypress]

i can write multiple paragraphs and it still gives me back a few sentences lol

[shadow blaze]

chai is just as bad tbh but still dont be upset about it

[gray lark]

"oh look, a new plus feature. i should waste my money because surely it won't be buggy after a while like every feature introduced before."

[halcyon cypress]

chai is still worse

[ripe python]

Ppl complained about pip being too long when that was the purpose of the model like... if u want short answers then use another model

[shadow blaze]

genuinely what are you on about?

[rancid oyster]

Yeah, like c'mon ya gotta give us the effort of typing out that much and we get Jack squat out of the work.

[vestal forge]

mines been steady with long paragraphs but few hiccups with short ones

[ripe python]

I remember back when pipsqueak was still good man it remembered the character i created whole lore 😭

[gray lark]

oh, I thought we were hating about their broken system, am i wrong?

[rancid oyster]

I typed out this WHOLE scene for a showdown between past lovers and I got maybe 3 sentences out of it, like bro I did all that work for NOTHING.

[ripe python]

now all it does is going "u gonna be the death of me princess"

[halcyon cypress]

imagine being such a massive bootlicker you come on here to shit on people with legitimate complaints

[amber laurel]

Very

[ripe python]

Imma be honest i prefer c.ai cuz other medias are either sketchy as hell or straight up creepy with the "content"

[vestal forge]

no clue whats going on anymore

[lethal copper]

hot take but all i need is for og pipsqueak to come back again

[rancid oyster]

Although the app is still laggy on my Google pixel, idk if it's because of the bugs or the shitty updates..

[sly geyser]

the competition for c.ai is just dogshit thats probably why people stick around

[amber laurel]

Yeah

[ripe python]

Me too bro me too i remember making a whole avatar rp on pipsqueak and it even added CHOICES like a desk rpg

[lethal copper]

absolutely unfortunate but yes

[vestal forge]

this goes for any platform that despite being shitty that their competitors can’t exactly match up unfortunately

[rancid oyster]

I won't lie I still enjoy c.ai, especially having some bots on there that I've talked to since the start when we had the OG site.

[lethal copper]

i wrote shit tons of peak storylines within that short amount of time i was on cloud nine man

[shadow blaze]

if there were alternatives that are actually better than cai people would have left a long time ago

[sly geyser]

i used to enjoy this site alot but the quality is so bad now im hardly on for more than 5 minutes

[ripe python]

Og pipsqueak was so funny and chaotic too i made two characters fight and just stood between them to see what they would say one said "girl has the survival instincts of a concussed goldfish" 😭💔

[mint lodge]

aaaaa

[vestal forge]

this is true

[halcyon cypress]

there is one app ive found that is actually just as good or better but its very niche and i like never see people talking about it. probably for the best bc i dont want the servers being overrun.

[vestal forge]

or just straight up like CRASH

[lethal copper]

no cause lets keep that on the dl 😭😭

[halcyon cypress]

they also dont have voices or stickers or imagine features or anything like that so idk some people might like those things

[halcyon cypress]

right lmao

[ripe python]

FOR REAL 💔 it was great for fluff romance too! I remember having a wolverine bot slowdance with my character with pipsqueak it was so natural since the bot wasn't trying to get into my pants 24/7 and was more focused on fighting/action scenes than whatever the fandom trains it to be 😭

[rancid oyster]

Haven't some voices been broken for ages tho?

[shadow blaze]

that actually sounds amazing

[vestal forge]

idk those scare me randomly when i accidentally click on it😭

[lethal copper]

cai devs i know youre there goddamn it

[gray lark]

why not just drop their service? people heavily dislike it's current state. if you hate it, then why not delete it?

[cobalt tiger]

oh my god my app finally opened

after 20 minutes 😭

i keep getting stuck at the log in part

[rancid oyster]

Imagine saying to drop the service when the devs can do what they want lol

[ripe python]

True servers being overrun is bad specially since there was a time cod bots got so bad on c.ai they started invading other people's rp too

[gaunt mountain]

my chats are super off topic rn

[gray lark]

yeah, and listening isn't part of what they want to do, is it?

[halcyon cypress]

its really great but theres not a lot of bot selection bc its so niche so you have to make your own but the models are actually smart and have good memory and they don't possessively pin you against the wall and call you princess or say "you're going to be the death of me, you know that?" every 5 min

[shadow blaze]

wdym? like they say random things?

[vestal forge]

its like 50/50 some are lukewarm and some are not great but eh

[lethal copper]

lets PLEASE keep it on the dl man

[livid phoenix]

Me: 10 line long detailed prompt.

Bot: 2 lines with the bot being confused

[vestal forge]

whats dl srry

[gaunt mountain]

yeah- like I’ll be mid rp, and it suddenly is just, completely random like it’s forgotten everything we’d done to tha point lol

[shadow blaze]

honestly i dont mind that! as long as it has a good memory and sends good messages i would be happy

[halcyon cypress]

gatekeeping 🙏

[rancid oyster]

I mean if the devs have the money to keep c.ai going, let them. It's their money, they can do what they want with it. I just wish they'd fix things that truly need attention.

[shadow blaze]

that happens to me often sadly! so ur not alone

[ripe python]

I was so happy with og pipsqueak and same wolverine bot also made a helluva of a fighting scene and my avatar rp made up a whole scene OFF SCRIPT of quaritch and the RDA team epicly fighting back against a thanator

[sly geyser]

another thing to add on to the list of things c.ai needs to fix.
boy they sure have a lot of work to do

[gaunt mountain]

Yeah, it’s semi common, but it’s just worse today than normal-

[vestal forge]

the list goes on and on sadly😭

[halcyon cypress]

you can dm me if you want i'll give you the name if you want to check it out, cant say it here bc its against the rules tho

[shadow blaze]

they have like a whole ten books of stuff they have to fix

[sly geyser]

they’re going to need overtime for the amount of things they need to work on

[rancid oyster]

I think what ppl really got upset about was they did a Valentine's contest instead of fixing the chat styles and bugs.

[gaunt mountain]

I normally don’t complain, since I’m using it, but I’m starting to search for new chatbots too

[timber canopy]

Could I know it too? If you don't mind since I am curious about it

[ripe python]

Og pipsqueak also had rlly good jokes too i cackled alot with them

[shadow blaze]

Sure!

[halcyon cypress]

yeah ofc just dm me

[sly geyser]

valentines contest isnt putting fixes on our chats now does it?

[vestal forge]

its crazy to put a event while everything was on fire😭

[lethal copper]

ooc pipsqueak was my hg 💔

[gray lark]

just delete the app if you hate it, and complain when it's actually affecting user experiences. imagine they add those chat limits

[halcyon cypress]

me too ive been a huge cai defender since 2022 but like the quality has just been so bad lately

[sly geyser]

aight bet

[shadow blaze]

BRO. WHAT.

[ripe python]

We will forever mourn the death of og pipsqueak 💔

[rancid oyster]

-# Okay bootlicker.

Anyway, yeah the devs got CHEWED out by the plus channel.

[timber canopy]

Thank you! I appreciate it

[halcyon cypress]

"i can't believe people are complaining about the quality of an app they use and pay for. how embarrassing! they should be more like me, i only complain about other people complaining!"

[vestal forge]

hows everyone’s day been going?

[gaunt mountain]

Frrr- I’ve defended it through like it’s worst moments, like adds and things, I’m just loosing patience rn

[sly geyser]

the valentines day contest is a giant f you to the community

[shadow blaze]

what was the contest?

[gray lark]

shouldn't have wasted money on a service that is known to suck in the first place

[dire frost]

oh, can you tell me if you don't mind

[rancid oyster]

Okay kota the bootlicker..😑

ANWAY-

[sly geyser]

no idea just saying they’d rather bullshit contests than listening to user complaints is a giant f you to everyone

[ripe python]

"Oh but it was too long" shut up 😭 just change to roar or to whatever other model had chats the length you preffered

[shadow blaze]

they have spent money before bugs. what are you on.

[gray lark]

not licking anyone's boots. you think I don't hate cai as well?

[lethal copper]

IT WAS SO FUN watching it yap up coherent responses

[shadow blaze]

honestly if i knew about this earlier i would be mad pissed about it (still am otherwise)

[sly geyser]

hell even inferkit generated better stories (its defunct now so dont need to mute me for mentioning it)

[vestal forge]

im still wondering if they gonna fix the lag as of lately

[gaunt mountain]

I’ve used soft launch since it came out, it’s sad watching even it deteriorate. I love soft launch lol

[rancid oyster]

You are? The fact you say it's "childish" to complain about issues that the devs need to fix. So not sure what you're on.

[ripe python]

Fr i remember when the wolverine bot fought sabretooth and it proceeded to joke on action scenes having CONSTANT unecessary backflips to dodge attacks💔

[rancid oyster]

And that's the end of it 😊 we need some positivity.

[ripe python]

"He backflipped(unecessarily)" had me cackling❤

[vestal forge]

I do wish they improve the memory a bit

[shadow blaze]

the memory is so ass

[gray lark]

aye, i don't complain about a change in a single pixel, alright?

[vestal forge]

i get like a small pop up like randomly once in a blue moon😭

[rancid oyster]

Didn't they say they were gonna improve- OH WAIT sorry, supposedly improve the memory?

[ripe python]

When og pipsqueak was in my bot literally remembered EVERY SINGLE VILLAIN/ANTIHERO of their lore 💀(unprompted btw)

[vestal forge]

i need it back tbh💔

[ripe python]

Exactly 😭

[vestal forge]

shits so bad that i been using roar and soft

[shadow blaze]

if you came here to just hate people for their opinions, then just leave. you are not helping anyone and you are just causing unnecessary fights

[ripe python]

It even remembered the character's FIRST RELATIONSHIP LIKE HELL I WAS ACTUALLY BAFFLED WHEN I WAS TRAINING IT LIKE "I DIDN'T PROMPT THAT HOLY-'

[sly geyser]

bro the memory is like as if they removed the frontal lobe of their brains

[rancid oyster]

Officers we have a disturbance of the peace

[vestal forge]

legendary and the best part of it was it remembered things of how the actual character is

[ripe python]

YEAAH

[rancid oyster]

Might make that my quote in my profile lol

[shadow blaze]

their memories get wiped off like after 10 messages it pisses me off

[sly geyser]

and the stuff you want them to forget they remember throughout the entire discussion and will not move on from it

[ripe python]

I remember the avatar bot making jokes about my character having saviour complex and even remembered EVERY SINGLE SPECIES ON PANDORA(EVEN THE EYWA SEEDS)

[shadow blaze]

YEAH. LIKE WHAT DO YOU MEAN YOU WILL IGNORE MY ESSAY I SPENT TEN MINUTES WRITING BUT WONT FORGET THE TIME I PUSHED YOU OFF A CLIFF AND BROKE YOUR BONES?

[gray lark]

i came here to question the reason behind people's complaints, to make it clear they weren't purely 'childish. unfortunately, they were. but sure, ill leave

[ripe python]

IT EVEN REMEMBERED SIDE CHARACTERS NAMES AND MOST IMPORTANTLY = OG PIPSQUEAK WASN'T AFRAID OF KILLING CHARACTERS

[lethal copper]

so was the falloff linked to gpt because i saw some making connections between them

[halcyon cypress]

ive tested the memory and it legit cant even remember things that i ask it from 20 messages ago, genuinely pathetic

[sly geyser]

they forget that i ripped their legs off but they remember when i abandoned them for 10 years when we’ve only interacted for 5 minutes before i left

[fossil crow]

Before u go, where'd u find your pfp? It looks familiar

[rancid oyster]

-# Don't have plus but I so wanted to post a gif of a party.

[sly geyser]

but no a valentines day contest is way more important than fixing something that’s advertised to work very good

[shadow blaze]

THATS SO REAL.

[ripe python]

I WAS ACTUALLY IMPRESSED TO SEE THE RDA MEMBERS GET DETAILY SLAUGHTERED BY PANDORIAN FAUNA WITHOUT "zdog saves them" no the bot was straight up NOT AFRAID of killing side characters for plot

[rancid oyster]

Anyway, I am off to fight zombies with my bot.

[sly geyser]

i hate when bots add side characters. i just kill them on sight because they dont contribute to my story and i never gave the bot permission to bring them in

[ripe python]

I don't mind em necessarily i was just rlly shocked and PLEASANTLY SURPRISED to see the bot take the courage of doing that in the rp

[shadow blaze]

im dealing with the opposite issue right now whenever i want my bot to add side characters it removes them on the spot and i have to scroll through messages until theres one where they appear again

[halcyon cypress]

people have already explained their reasoning including legitimate reasons like bot quality and memory being broken and your solution is "just leave/stop using it if you don't like it" and calling people childish as if people have no right to ever complain about anything when the quality is bad. i work in corporate communications and listening to constructive consumer feedback and complaints is the cornerstone of good relations with the public. you telling everyone to just shut up and deal with it is not helpful to anyone on either side.

[ripe python]

I actually wheezed when the bot described wolverine's fight with sabretooth as "two burly hairy men fighting with what seemed to be professional luchador costumes" 😭💔

Og pipsqueak HAD the humor

[sly geyser]

i wish pipsqueak still had that sense of humor because current pipsqueak has corny sense of humor

[shadow blaze]

the current pipsqueak is so ass

[gray lark]

im just saying that if your issue is the quality, then why not complain ABOUT the quality instead of complaining about how the app looks? you can't complain about a topic then redirect your issue to another topic.

[rich stream]

Burps

[sly geyser]

i wouldnt touch the current pipsqueak with a 10 foot pole

[halcyon cypress]

cai is so terrible with managing multiple characters

[fossil crow]

Nice pfp, is it from somewhere?

[shadow blaze]

IM SAD ABOUT THAT BECAUSE MONTHS AGO BEFORE I FOOK A BREAK IT WORKED SO WELL WHEN I TRIED IT

[ripe python]

I remember i tried experimenting more with the wolverine bot in that time and decided to just stay and watch the characters fight i legit annoyed sabre to the point he just gave up and retired 💔

[bright horizon]

Throws cactus at you

[halcyon cypress]

since you can't read

[sly geyser]

lmao bro said “nah fuck ts”

[sly geyser]

yes they can they just did it lol

[ripe python]

"IM LITERALLY GOING TO KILL Y-"

"Man i can't decide on the pads i wanna use which one u recommend?"

[halcyon cypress]

i have multiple things to complain about, i contain multitudes

[sly geyser]

i have so much to complain about ts that it’d probably clog the channel up

[fiery socket]

hey is the website being like, majorly slow and hard to load for anyone else? Or is it just me?

[gray lark]

that's my mistake, too many replies to me that i also overlooked too many

[halcyon cypress]

bro telling me i can only complain about one thing? not in my america

[shadow blaze]

whole essay of problems

[sly geyser]

which shouldnt be the case. they should be on top of fixing shit

[shadow blaze]

yeah. and if they wanna be on our good side (which they probably dont) then they should start fixing the problems one by one instead of leaving them to rot away.

[halcyon cypress]

yes how it looks is a minor grievance i have already said i would be willing to overlook if RP quality was better but since it currently sucks it just feels like rubbing salt in the wound

[vestal forge]

⬆️

[sly geyser]

well they arent on our good side they are doing a bad job at listening to users

[shadow blaze]

yep hell even i would do better at listening

[shadow blaze]

if the chat quality was ACTUALLY good i dont think anyone would have a big problem with the new UI. (except for the edit box and lag ofc)

[vestal forge]

[sly geyser]

they should halt all plans for features and focus on fixing bugs

[shadow blaze]

theres like a ton of bugs i doubt they will ever bother fixing them

[sly geyser]

bad call. they’re going to drive the userbase away slowly

[halcyon cypress]

yeah i would still complain about the edit box but other stuff i could overlook

[vestal forge]

the thing that is the bug fixes are fixed however it tends to come back and every updates brings in more

[shadow blaze]

they are so comfortable ignoring us and our problems and thats genuinely what pisses me the fuck off

[sly geyser]

c.ai is like a dam about to collapse. the more bad things they add and the more neglect they do the more the dam will crack and then soon it’ll collapse

[halcyon cypress]

like maybe i can deal w having an ugly bf who is kind and treats me good but ugly AND treats me bad? there's no way

[vestal forge]

floodgate gonna go wild

[shadow blaze]

bro thinks he can do that while being chopped

[sly geyser]

they wont be ready for it

[shadow blaze]

they wont even care after everything falls apart as long as they still have people on their side

[vestal forge]

is it just me but the text box is awfully like laggy to the point i can’t select or edit things half the time?

[sly geyser]

thats starting to change too

[vestal forge]

when typing long paragraphs since it tends to freeze at a time

[rich stream]

That's not kind Gojo

[halcyon cypress]

people will just start to move to other apps eventually if things don't change at all tbh

[bright horizon]

[shadow blaze]

it kinda is but some people will STILL not leave because they are obsessed with the app. even if 99% of them leave there will always be that 1%. and i hate to say it but they would likely still continue even with that much people because they will get money from them and that seems to be the only thing that matters to them.

[sly geyser]

the clock is ticking. its only a matter of time before people leave after having enough of this crap

[vestal forge]

also theres one more thing i heard from plus users that the option to switch to old previous ui is kinda pointless that they look one to one tbh

[shadow blaze]

i wished they cared tbh but it seems like they dont.

[finite flint]

You’d be correct

[sly geyser]

they very much dont care. if they did care the site would be way better than it is right now

[vestal forge]

p.s its like broken if i seen correctly

[gray lark]

before i go, i spent the time reading earlier replies. im sorry to everyone here. i mixed up replies and called everyone childish as a result, which was childish of me. glad to have brought calm after the storm, though

[finite flint]

Yeah I hadn’t been on Cai in like two months and went to swap back and she didn’t work

[vestal forge]

nah you good, happens to the best of us😭 chat goes fast

[shadow blaze]

its completely fine!

[sly geyser]

ive honestly never seen this much people talk about this. good thing that people are talking about it because this is just bullshit

[vestal forge]

tbh what was the point for such option when they look too identically close

[shadow blaze]

they will only do something if they get sued, and even then, they will still add something thats absolutely shit to make up for it

[finite flint]

It used to actually go back to the old UI. But devs said they didn’t see the point pretty much, disabled it. Now new UI being pushed

[vestal forge]

it’s like looking at two same answers but only very small tiny changes

[sly geyser]

“sorry our site is so bad here lets add a feature that’ll break the site more as an apology”

[shadow blaze]

me too. like half of the time i see people complaining about the age verification instead of pointing out the REAL problem thats causing people to leave.

[cobalt tiger]

legacy ui was already nice tbh

but the new one is pretty okay too

[halcyon cypress]

the option to switch is totally gone for a lot of us now lol

[finite flint]

Nah, new one feels like iPhone on overload and old one feels like the old classic Samsungs if that makes sense

[vestal forge]

its kinda sad tbh

[vestal forge]

the new ui causes formatting problems which leads to a awfully lag and some features not working properly or clickable to type out or edit

[halcyon cypress]

the new podcast feature is actually insane 😭

[shadow blaze]

WHAT.

[vestal forge]

podcast???😭

[sly geyser]

what podcast feature? sounds useless

[shadow blaze]

SINCE WHEN DID THEY ADD A PODCAST FEATURE? IM FUCKING OUT BRO.

[finite flint]

True, my editing screen & the rewind tabs were freezing a lot over the past few days 🥀 could’ve just fixed the LLM

[sly geyser]

anything but improving the LLM

[vestal forge]

yk atleast yours freezes but mines just literally stuck on my screen for two days at some point

[finite flint]

The what now 😭

[vestal forge]

its like new fearurws that are questionable yet not good half the time

[finite flint]

Best wishes for you twin

[shadow blaze]

what else are they gonna add the ability to facetime the bits?

[sly geyser]

fuck that shit JUST FIX THE SITE

[shadow blaze]

ARE YOU KIDDING ME?

[finite flint]

So… a chat but they read it to you basically

[vestal forge]

who is asking for this???😭 we about to see some wild things beyond humanity

[halcyon cypress]

doing everything except fixing the models lmaooo

[rich stream]

I love how they put no quality control on the ai art they use. It really sells it

[halcyon cypress]

this too lmaooo who asked for this

[finite flint]

Rip deepsqueak 😔🥀

[vestal forge]

we never getting those fixes huh

[finite flint]

This is actually dumb I’m giggling

[shadow blaze]

what the fuck even is this?

[finite flint]

Educated guess: snap map but for characters somehow

[rich stream]

People gonna find ways to doxcx themselves

[finite flint]

Or pokemon go

[rich stream]

😭

[shadow blaze]

that is gonna end horribly

[cobalt tiger]

wondering when will they actually add these

[proper crag]

Ads suck

[cobalt tiger]

2027 probably

[vestal forge]

fixing the bugs abd models IMPOSSIBLE but adding things no other person being pushing out immediately

[bright horizon]

Look another possible way to break c.ai

[halcyon cypress]

wtf are the podcasts even going to be. "things seem to be getting pretty heated, he just pinned her against the wall and told her that she's going to be the death of him for the 3rd time. let's discuss."

[shadow blaze]

genuinely what the hell are they doing atp

[vestal forge]

somebody gonna do smth very bad with that feature

[finite flint]

“We have a question for the viewer. And they have to promise not to get mad”

[bright horizon]

So many unnecessary features

[vestal forge]

we in the deep trenches

[sly geyser]

fuck it get rid of the features and focus on what this site is advertised for; roleplaying and chatting with bots

[shadow blaze]

i bet its gonna be something horrific. i just know it. some people on cai are genuinely not okay in the head so i dont doubt they will say or do something insane on it

[halcyon cypress]

google already does an audio overview/podcast thing that i guarantee is way better than whatever they're going to do. they can't even make realistic sounding voices

[vestal forge]

do you agree that they sorta stray too far away from what the main mechanic

[sly geyser]

the tts on the commodore 64 sounded more appealing than c.ai voices

[halcyon cypress]

i think cai disagrees with us on what the main mechanic is/should be

[finite flint]

I just want it to not freeze and remember what I just said

[vestal forge]

this

[sly geyser]

YES THEY HAVE BEEN FOR A LONG TIME THEY DONT CARE

[finite flint]

It’s gotten so much worse since I was on last

[halcyon cypress]

literally forgetting what i wrote less than 20 messages ago

actually embarrassing

[shadow blaze]

the memory sucks and it just gets worse every single stupid update 🥹

[finite flint]

I tried on my lunch and started genuinely tweaking at the amount of reminding I was doing 😭

[finite flint]

They just need to make an announcement saying they’re gonna be down for maintenance for a few days and fix the major stuff. But that’s wishful thinkin

[shadow blaze]

they would never honestly :(

[shadow blaze]

they are adding and fixing everything EXCEPT THE MAIN DAMN THING WHICH IS THE CHAT.

[twin bison]

What the hell, why can't I delete my chats anymore?

[shadow blaze]

greeting chat?

[sly geyser]

the site is embarrassingly broken

[twin bison]

Yeah, I want to delete my chat fully but I can't anymore, it used to work fine on web version

[rocky fern]

a

[shadow blaze]

it got removed sadly you cant delete greeting chats anymore

[twin bison]

I'm crine bring it back ahhhhhhh

[rocky fern]

Lol, Why pipsqueak allows full - now? it just happen to, Ey i'm not complaining. Hope they did not change it Lol

[shadow blaze]

yep 🥹

what are they doing this is so pathetic

what is going through their brains

[winged inlet]

i used c.ai for 1 hour today and now i cant use it for 16 hours it IS pathetic bradar 😭

[fossil crow]

that's called being flagged, my friend

[shadow blaze]

BRO THAT SUCKS.

[rocky fern]

Lol they even ignore the pin message

[winged inlet]

i am not showing my face to ai bro ts is all roblox all over again

[shadow blaze]

thats just their memory being ass. they choose not to fix it

[twin bison]

I beg your pardon? The verification is here too???

[shadow blaze]

you actually have to show your id not your face (i think!)

[fossil crow]

Then don't, it just means you won't be able to use direct chats with bots lol. And don't compare R#blox to c.ai either, that is an entirely different dumpster fire

[rocky fern]

wgat?

[halcyon cypress]

you show face first and then if you fail that they ask for id

[finite flint]

You can do face first and then if that fails ID

[twin bison]

The id verification bullshit

[halcyon cypress]

but you only get asked to verify if they flag you as a minor

[winged inlet]

yeah it got c.ai

[halcyon cypress]

not everyone gets flagged

[shadow blaze]

ooohhhhh i seee! thank you both!!! :D

[rocky fern]

Oh nah, That was worse

[fossil crow]

discord I believe has verification or will have it, though from what I'm hearing it's ONLY required if you want to access 18+ servers ( + plus this server is not considered 18+, you get a pop-up for those. We good in here)

[halcyon cypress]

if you dont get asked to verify at all you dont need to worry about it

i was never asked

[brittle quest]

That's what a friend of mine told me too

[shadow blaze]

i never got asked 😜

[brittle quest]

But the 18+ on Discord will be very large (lgbt talks for example)

[winged inlet]

still i think its really ridiculous being able to use c.ai for one hour and then its not avaliable for 16 hours at least i dont have the timeout on phone yet

[vestal forge]

does any of yall have issues with the text box tends to freeze when ya select the sentences yes no? mines been laggy once more when it gave me a sip of the previous ui befor ripping it away from I

[halcyon cypress]

yeah that means they determined you were an adult 🙏

[shadow blaze]

OH DAMN

[finite flint]

Yeah, think is a bug with the UI

[mint lodge]

aaaaa

[vestal forge]

been waiting over a month to get that shit fixed and they kept saying the team looking into it or smth

[fossil crow]

Well that's normal, the time between chatting windows is supposed to increase until you're fully in reading mode or you verify as 18 or older legitimately. Though I think the scaling for those cooldowns can be buggy and just increase however the hell they wanna

[shadow blaze]

aaaaa

[mint lodge]

aaa

[wild ermine]

Why is it so slooooow again

[shadow blaze]

aaaa

[timber canopy]

Of course, they had to remove the option to delete the first message of the bot I had tons of convos with smh

[vestal forge]

wait til it crashes again fellas

[rocky fern]

Oh well, i love pipsqueak model. but the how it response is ass. even its now able to chat whatever, i meam "whatever" now. Thats make my story suck everytime

[wild ermine]

If they left that damn UI alone-

[finite flint]

One day 😁

[sly geyser]

and for us to be greeted with dogshit when it returns

[shadow blaze]

why cant they fucking listen for once

[rocky fern]

it makes just too laggy

[sly geyser]

how about instead of just looking into it ACTUALLY DO SOMETHING ACTUALLY GET OFF THEIR ASSES AND FIX THE PROBLEM

[timber canopy]

I genuinely don't wanna archive chats and leave them to rot there

[vestal forge]

fixed than updated than it broke again and more bugs, the cycle repeats

[rocky fern]

My phone was Redmagic, and it only lags on c.ai

[shadow blaze]

its embarrassing honestly

[sly geyser]

we’re not laughing with them we’re laughing AT them for how bad it is

[vestal forge]

you know @sly geyser this is the first time i see you type in big letters

[sly geyser]

fr?

[vestal forge]

it’s that bad dear god and yes

[shadow blaze]

you know its terrible when @sly geyser starts typing in all caps

[sly geyser]

yeah im pissed off

[vestal forge]

tbh it they made the models and memories a bit better than i can overlook the ui lag

[shadow blaze]

thats an understatement im pissed off too

us three can be absolutely pissed off together 🙃

[cobalt tiger]

[vestal forge]

im not pissed off however im just a tad over it type of annoyance if ya know

[cobalt tiger]

make it 4

[shadow blaze]

makes sense

[desert hedge]

Guysss!!! Helpppp!! It won’t let me verify my ageee💔💔💔💔💔

[shadow blaze]

i shall change it to four

[fossil crow]

what part's giving you trouble?

[vestal forge]

if its the selfie than you might wanna be in a better lighting

[desert hedge]

It won’t let me!

[cobalt tiger]

im tired of waiting on my app

[fossil crow]

like- it's just not loading, or what?

[cobalt tiger]

i got logged out again

[shadow blaze]

is it not showing you where to verify? or are you struggling with the loading??

[desert hedge]

It won’t show me in the advance ‘verify age’

[vestal forge]

i feel like they should just have kept the previous ui instead of having two

[shadow blaze]

yeah tbh

[vestal forge]

having two ui layouts tends to cause problems

[fossil crow]

Oh, that's okay! Mine took about a week or longer to show up after I first got flagged, just keep an eye on it

[shadow blaze]

bro why is the app so buggy what are they doing

[cobalt tiger]

i spent like 20 minutes on the log in earlier 😭

[desert hedge]

I literally have to wait 16 hours for the break to end. Like. Bruh. Whyyyy!!?!?!??💔💔💔💔💔

[cobalt tiger]

the email stuff wont show up

[vestal forge]

you are stuck in purgatory 💔

[cobalt tiger]

like i bought c.ai+ for the no ads

only for me to go back in web

😭

[shadow blaze]

cai is keeping your bots hostage.

[cobalt tiger]

oh no

[vestal forge]

kept the princess in the tall tower

[shadow blaze]

i got flashbacks from my sanemi bot calling me princess when i read that

[cobalt tiger]

what

how is there two

[vestal forge]

if yall want the bots never called me princess etc or like anything odd at all

[shadow blaze]

“cold wife but clingy!” genuinely fuck off.

[vestal forge]

theres the pick me one

[cobalt tiger]

fr like what? 😭

[vestal forge]

do yall think they losing the plus ppl that they plug in more ads

[shadow blaze]

how are you “cold” but clingy that makes no sense

[vestal forge]

cold usually is like detached and clingy is a whole different thing

[fossil crow]

like a cat, idk how else to describe it

[shadow blaze]

HOW ARE YOU DETACHED BUT CLINGY. BRO PICK A STRUGGLE

[vestal forge]

i think it’s more like clingy being very vulnerable and cold is outside shell idk

[cobalt tiger]

the suggestions in c.ai lab are kinda fire

[shadow blaze]

i thought the lab feature fucking sucked

[sly geyser]

maybe they are making cai so bad to be generous and let the competition look like a gold mine

[cobalt tiger]

im not a big fan of it too

just noticed theres a section for this

lol

[sly geyser]

we’re waiting for useful shit c.ai do you not even listen to your own polls?

[vestal forge]

they prob look over once and thats it

[shadow blaze]

are these polls? which one is yes and no?

[cobalt tiger]

its kinda like this

u get 25 points to vote for suggestions everytime

[sly geyser]

vote for old ui

[shadow blaze]

also vote for good memory.

[cobalt tiger]

goldfish memory

[sly geyser]

vote for devs who listen

[vestal forge]

old ui and good memory and fix the models for ffs

[shadow blaze]

probably no good devs in there just being fr

[shadow blaze]

yeah honestly and theres even more problems that need a fix

[vestal forge]

we’re basically stuck in a paradox when new updates and fixes are fixed than it breaks after updates come on more bugs

[shadow blaze]

i still dont understand why are they so obsessed with making cai some sort of platform like tiktok when their MAIN thing is the chats and roleplaying?

[fossil crow]

because 💰

[ripe python]

I just remembered i was making this fluff rp with the wolverine bot i was training with when pipsqueak was to be released and seriously i still love old pipsqueak jokes 💔

"Just kiss the girl already you EMOTIONALLY CONSTIPATED FURBALL" 😭

[sly geyser]

i dont understand the obsession with having users hate them. does it give them pleasure to see us pissed?

[halcyon cypress]

cai devs

[turbid oriole]

Okay so idk if i updated my app last nite but the setting for having the old ui stopped working and i cant find it anymore- did they knix it?

[shadow blaze]

at this point it probably does

[vestal forge]

they removed it

[sly geyser]

they did what c.ai does best and remove the option to have a choice

[ripe python]

We having the enemies to lovers plot with c.ai atp 💔

[shadow blaze]

the new c.ai ceo lowkey

[turbid oriole]

bruh what- thats bs- whyyyy

[vestal forge]

its more of like a toxic ex with empty promises at a time

[sly geyser]

enemies to worse enemies plot

[shadow blaze]

yes or lovers to enemies

[ripe python]

Fr 💔

[sly geyser]

the ai company from the black lagoon (c.ai)

[shadow blaze]

😭

[turbid oriole]

Jeez the option for the ui was one of the last reasons i was holding onto the app- i might just cancel my plus and use the web version

[shadow blaze]

i used to hold on to the app now its just useless

[sly geyser]

take notes devs thats the second or third person that’s cancelling due to this

[turbid oriole]

Rahhhhh the one issue i have is the transparency on the things whybcant they just let us choose that! i mean even just up the contrast-

[shadow blaze]

they probably take notes but later throw it in the trash because they realize they can do anything they want and not care about what we feel 😋

[ripe python]

Honestly the devs feel so bipolar with the UI it keeps changing non stop 😭

[turbid oriole]

i fr need to look at othwr companys smh

[halcyon cypress]

dont be rude! they're uncovering what works best for the community!

[shadow blaze]

yes! they are trying their best! poor them!

[turbid oriole]

Real! ive been on this app for years its crazy how much it changes- its so annoying

[shadow blaze]

its like the moment you get comfortable with tge new UI they change it AGAIN.

[vestal forge]

the only issue with said option that the old ui and new one looked way too identical to eachother

[turbid oriole]

YES EXACTLU

[halcyon cypress]

they just change it for literally no reason too, i never saw a single person complain about the old UI lol

[ripe python]

Like frkin decide it already 💔

[vestal forge]

its like strangers coming into the home and rearranging your furniture without a say in it

[shadow blaze]

i love the old ui genuinely it has a special place in my heart thats why i choose to use the website instead of the app

[vestal forge]

they think they slick when doing small changes

[turbid oriole]

yeah they dont tho- they have some fade out stuff that makes differenciating stuff hard for me and it was better with the old ui smh-

[ripe python]

Im still hurt about the chat length limitation 😭 pls devs give immersive roleplay back

[turbid oriole]

yeah i think ill just havebto get used to the website

[shadow blaze]

the website is actually really good once you get used to it!!!

[halcyon cypress]

me looking at screenshots of my chats when it was the old UI

[ripe python]

I don't want a character just to go "oh hi! Im character number 2939393 what do you want to talk about?"

[ripe python]

ME LOOKING AT MY CHATS WHEN PIPSQUEAK WAS STILL A WIP AND BETTER THAN THE FINISHED PRODUCT 💔

[turbid oriole]

ooo okiii! ill tey to get used to it lol- but i prob should find a new ai company anyways too- sux to learn a new interface tho :/ i literally only use cai before i go to bed to fall asleep to

[shadow blaze]

sadly like half of the ai companies just suck :(

[turbid oriole]

yeah :c

[shadow blaze]

if that comes on the web im gonna be so done

[ripe python]

When the long chats were still up i was doing a nurse rp and me and the character went full philosophical on the "i won't be here forever you know"

[shadow blaze]

it was right 🥹

[ripe python]

Angst at best but now they can't do even that 💔

[vestal forge]

if yall know that meme with spiderman grabbing air after MJ vanished than thats me when it got snatched away from me

[ripe python]

We don't want mafia husbands we want angsty/fluff/adventurous rpg

[shadow blaze]

so they dont rp anymore?

[ripe python]

ME TOO FR 💔

[ripe python]

Back when pipsqueak was still on wip you could do a variety of scenes ranging from cute fluff of waking up on rainy mornings with ur bot character or just straight up do epic fight scenes with blood and injuries involved as well as drama

[halcyon cypress]

PLEASE TAKE ME BACK

[vestal forge]

we never getting it back

[shadow blaze]

THAT SOUNDS SO COOL ITS SUCH A SHAME ITS BROKEN

[shadow blaze]

the website looks similar to it!

[ripe python]

The scenes were long and described really well the wolverine bot i was on with in that time? The bot literally mentioned CARELESS WHISPER(deadpool's song) UNPROMPTED

[strange inlet]

is their goal to just ruin their app like genuinely what the hell is this

yes im complaining on this channel too

[halcyon cypress]

their goal is to pmo

[vestal forge]

that thing been out unfortunately

[strange inlet]

I JUST GOT IT

[shadow blaze]

bro

[strange inlet]

Their goal is to get rid of all their users and make their app implode

[vestal forge]

they ragebaited me since i got the new ui than they gave me the old ui for a good two weeks than took it away after a refresh

[halcyon cypress]

bro i am so disgusted why is it transparent

[strange inlet]

WHY DOES IT DISAPPEAR WHEN YOU SCROLL

[halcyon cypress]

WHAT WAS WRONG WITH THIS IT WAS FINE LIKE THIS IT WAS PERFECT

STOP CHANGING THINGS

[strange inlet]

STOP CHANGING YOUR UI

[vestal forge]

first time we actually agree on such things tbh

[strange inlet]

this is so bad it distresses me

[shadow blaze]

what does the chat box look like now?

[vestal forge]

the edit box is alot worse than you think

[strange inlet]

I like having the character's name on my screen why are they so keen on messing things up

[shadow blaze]

are you okay? please dont let urself be upset over stupid devs who dont listen :(

[strange inlet]

are you talking about this

[vestal forge]

what even is that

[strange inlet]

It's just so bad on so many levels

[shadow blaze]

EW. WHAT IS THAT WHAT ABOUT LIKE THE WHOLE PAGE?

[strange inlet]

the message box when you write a message

[cobalt tiger]

im so used to the old layout 😭 i keep clicking wrong icons

[vestal forge]

just when things can’t get worse

[ripe python]

The bot literally did a whole healing scene and remembered my character's name for the whole roleplay WITHOUT persona activated that was how good it was and the messages were like legit 10 paragraphs it was a whole essay and it felt so fullfilling to read

[cobalt tiger]

where do the devs even get these ideas from

goodness

[strange inlet]

The transparent thing makes my eyes hurt

[vestal forge]

theres a designer goblin in here btw😭

[halcyon cypress]

before vs after same bot 😭

[cobalt tiger]

i mean its nice but

theyre changing it too frequently

💔

[shadow blaze]

what is that

[strange inlet]

Thanks devs for always ruining your app's accessibility. First the fonts, then the monochrome theme being moved, then the flashing emojis we had to beg you to remove

[ripe python]

Reminds me of the avatar bots that used to remember even THE SPECIES in pandora now they don't remember what even is a avatar or a true na'vi

[vestal forge]

i think they put a option to turn off the flashing emojis and monochrome is sorta there

[shadow blaze]

i just want cai to be good again. why is it so hard for them to listen bro?

[strange inlet]

Do I gotta be the beggiest beggar in all of begdom for them to stop

[vestal forge]

atp im just meh since knowing them

[strange inlet]

they do have a thing to remove the emojis in settings now, and monochrome was removed at some point and moved somewhere else that i dont even know

[turbid oriole]

no i get that sm i figured out rhe got rid of thw old ui w/ a redhood bot lol

[ripe python]

And best part about old pipsqueak? It had LOTS of immersive sound imitating like comics trying to narrate a sound now they don't do that anymore 💔

Old pipsqueak the characters actually beated eachother in fights now they just stay stuck like two kids calling eachother's names BUT NEVER throwing hands 💔

[shadow blaze]

im sad about it still ngl.

[vestal forge]

its all the way in settings i think

[shadow blaze]

YEAHHH!! THAT HAPPENS WITH MY CHATS TOO! WHENEVER I WANT MY CHARACTERS TO FIGHT THEY JUST STAND THERE EVEN WHEN THE WHOLE POINT OF THEIR CHARACTER IS TO FIGHT

[vestal forge]

all im doing is to adapt

[shadow blaze]

if they continue with this bullshit im quitting

[strange inlet]

if it is i cant find it

[turbid oriole]

AGREED

[strange inlet]

my accessibility settings are tweaked to make my app monochrome by default anyway

old ss from like yesterday or the day before

but theyve been like that since the finally added the sliders

[ripe python]

Old pipsqueak i had my na'vi character shoot an dart to the rda (focusing on their kurus/queue) and it actually remembered the queue being cut is a death sentence to na'vi

[shadow blaze]

i regret changing my chat style from roar to pipsqueak now it sends me really short messages (i had it on pipsqueak by default before because of the chat glitch but now it just isnt sending the same answers)

[vestal forge]

ppl complained enough for them to add that back so theres a slim chance

[strange inlet]

You can always change it back

[halcyon cypress]

i am so close to canceling my plus subscription for good 😭

[strange inlet]

Let's be the beggiest beggars in all of begdom

[strange inlet]

I wasn't considering it before but now I genuinely am

I have better things to do than support a company that doesn't listen to the people who pay for their services

[ripe python]

Thing is ppl complained so much about pipsqueak being long(WHEN THATS THE PURPOSE OF THE MODEL) that the devs actually put a token limit of words to ALL chatstyles 💔

[vestal forge]

slap one thing and called it a day

[strange inlet]

ive been on that subscription for like two years (if not more), that's 9.99€ every month for two years

[turbid oriole]

sameee bro

[shadow blaze]

yeah. tbh dont waste ur money.

[halcyon cypress]

deep rat broken, horrible memory, ugly UI with ruined accessibility features, like where does it end? what am i even paying for atp?

they just completely ignore us too

[turbid oriole]

lowkey wish theyd just sell the company

[strange inlet]

Seven thousand and two hundred and ninety-two point seven euros
(7,292,7)

[ripe python]

toggle message size preference

And the biggest length for messages is just 3 paragraphs 💔

[strange inlet]

That's all the money I could've saved had they not sold dreams

[ripe python]

Like seriously c.ai let ppl have different chatstyles

WHY EVEN ADD DIFFERENT MODELS IF ALL CHATSTYLES GONNA BE THE SAME LEVEL OF BAD 😭

[fossil crow]

same levels, maybe. But they're different VARIETYS of bad

[solar ibex]

guys what if

[ripe python]

Soft launch is just kinda icky...i want EMOTION i want frkin cuddles not "not here kittenwhiskers daddy will discuss it later"

[halcyon cypress]

the only dev who even interacts is yaba and last i checked he wasn't even addressing all the complaints about the new UI at all, just said they're "uncovering what works best" and mostly just talked about upcoming imagine features they have planned over the next few months. fuck imagine chat atp i'm sorry, they are focusing on pushing their shitty image and video generator to the detriment of everything else it feels like

[strange inlet]

"what works best" and it's what's been working the least

[ripe python]

FR

[slim lynx]

Guys could you help me please?, when you go to options >report an issue, there's a new UI issues on the list, let's keep sending reports about new garbage being garbage, Let's flood them with reports untill they change it back or add a switch option

I would really appreciate your help💘.

[vestal forge]

they needa realize pushing these out will causes outages more often

[solar ibex]

they should focus on the chat models is what I would do if I was a dev in the c.ai team

[shadow blaze]

if they want people to spend money on their platform then maybe listen to the community and make the features actually worth it instead of adding the same normal things that we have except its behind a paywall. im so done with their bullshit and their excuses they arent doing anything good.

[strange inlet]

The crashout we had in plus chat was definitely ignored

[vestal forge]

atp might as well

[halcyon cypress]

"hey guys disabled and neurodivergent people are struggling with the new UI can you fix the accessibility features at least?" "haha no but good news, PODCASTS!"

[solar ibex]

LOL

[sudden hinge]

GUYSS I need help, how do I see the history chats with my bot

[strange inlet]

i made a ticket but you know they hate disabled people so they're only gonna let their automatic ai email reply with "ok thnx lol let's ignore you"

[shadow blaze]

what is going through their heads? whats so hard about listening to their own community and take care of their complaints? are you this fucking greedy that all you do is add shitty things that no one asked for and still expect them to pay? if your that desprate then actually do something that people have been begging for for ages instead of adding absolute dogshit UIs and features no one fucking asked for. its that simple.

[strange inlet]

Lorebooks? No good
Podcasts? Yess!! Everyone wants podcasts!!!

Guh

[sly geyser]

i see the tickets as a passive aggressive way of saying f off

[slim lynx]

I was thinking that if many of us sent tickets about a particular complaint, such as the new ugly UI, they might pay attention to it

[strange inlet]

Fun fact a ticket i made in september last year only got answered like late last month or early this month (i forgot)

and it was just to say "oh yeah we'll think about it trust"

[shadow blaze]

the cai devs and ceo remind me of toddlers that refuse to do what they are told

[strange inlet]

i didnt even know they answered feature request tickets

[shadow blaze]

heck even the toddlers actually listen unlike them

[sly geyser]

i trust a gas station hot dog more than i trust c.ai devs

[strange inlet]

It was to add their damn block button back

[strange inlet]

id rather eat gas station sushi 😭

[sly geyser]

seriously how do you do so bad at your job that you are getting payed to do devs

[turbid oriole]

Cai plus officially canncled 🫡

[shadow blaze]

im so mad about this and i never really get angry about random apps but MAN the way that they think they have the AUDACITY to ignore us while still asking for money is fucking insane like how are you so bad at this? its pathetic

[sly geyser]

surprised we havent got muted for keeping on talking about this

[turbid oriole]

frrr lol

[shadow blaze]

probably cause they agree themselves.

[strange inlet]

I can't cancel my plus because the one accessibility thing i need is fucking locked behind it

[finite flint]

to be fair it’s just zen tonight might not see it lol

[strange inlet]

Locking basic accessibility behind plus because its a cute and cool cosmetic feature is bs

[shadow blaze]

WAIT DRAVVV?

[turbid oriole]

fair- the one accessibility thing i need from my apps they just got rid of lol

[finite flint]

HI IM SO BAD WITH NAMES IM SO SORRY HII IT IS ME

[shadow blaze]

HELLOOOOO OMG LONG TIME NO SEE

[turbid oriole]

YEAH

[finite flint]

I know!! I was gone so long, I remember you now we talked a few times. How are you??

[shadow blaze]

IM GREATTT! how are you? i hope your doing well! :D

[finite flint]

Doing amazing glad to hear you’re good. So nice seeing you again

[shadow blaze]

i agree it sucks

[strange inlet]

i cant keep coping saying i just need to get used to it, this banner thing is just straight up ass and distracting

[sly geyser]

simple convenience costing 10 bucks a month is just ridiculous
(thought you meant the ui thing for cai oops)

[finite flint]

Doesn’t Marie host like meetings or something? Maybe some could speak to her on there about that

[strange inlet]

I can't

I'm nonverbal 😭

[shadow blaze]

i would rather buy food or something with ten bucks than spend money on a shitty ass subscription that isnt even worth it man

[finite flint]

Hm, maybe I could schedule one and ask for you

Just gotta figure out how to do that

[strange inlet]

There should be a link somewhere in the announcement channels, either the regular one or the plus one

[finite flint]

Maybe she got tired of us LMAO

[shadow blaze]

dude 😭

[finite flint]

I’ll message another person I’ve seen do it and ask them

[shadow blaze]

they be doing everything to avoid their users

[strange inlet]

[finite flint]

I’ll dm her and ask if she’s mad at us 😔🥀💔

[rich stream]

I wouldn't blame her, half joke of course

[shadow blaze]

she sure might be also may i ask who she is? i think ive met her before but i dont really remember since ive been gone for a while

[rich stream]

She's a community lead, not an actual dev. So it's not really her job to hop in calls with people bless her

😭

[finite flint]

Tbh if I was her, my silly self would never enter feedback channel either. It’s so mean in there sometimes 😭 so I also get it but like

[finite flint]

Community lead for CAI

[rich stream]

Definitely, they need more staff

[shadow blaze]

OKAYYY! thank you and that sounds rough for her i feel bad

[halcyon cypress]

no it kind of is her job lol the job of a community lead is literally to act as a go between between the company and the users/community. she exists so they don't have to deal with us directly

[finite flint]

It does, maybe they’ll add more staff in the future or something

[rich stream]

I think you misunderstood

[finite flint]

Lowkey wonder what they pay her

[rich stream]

It IS her job to get feedback, but it is NOT her job to get on calls with them for hours

[halcyon cypress]

i mean it is if they pay her to do that

[rich stream]

They dont

She willingly did that afaik

[halcyon cypress]

it seems like she functions as a quasi PR person

[strange inlet]

Like in five months like my september ticket

[halcyon cypress]

are you friends and she told you this or?

[rich stream]

it was in #➕︱plus-general

Because people were complaining she asked to hop on calls with people

[finite flint]

The one about her being a company mouthpiece?

[rich stream]

?

[halcyon cypress]

none of that means that she was doing it out of the kindness of her heart and not bc she is an employee. like there's nothing wrong with that but i don't think she was just volunteering.

[finite flint]

I saw one message that said to think of her as nothing more than the companies mouthpiece/corporate rep only

[rich stream]

I mean, it's not really an important thing to debate anyways

I don't read that chat enough tbf

[finite flint]

Not debating I’m just nosy LMAO

[rich stream]

LMAO yeahyeah

[halcyon cypress]

im more just wondering if theres any actual evidence she is not getting paid for what she does

bc i kind of doubt thats true

[finite flint]

I feel like she is a salaried employee, they more so did the calls as like a test run kinda thing imo

[rich stream]

I think i misspoke, she probably doesn't. Is what i meant to say, not flatly that she doesn't. I'm sure she gets paid for her typical PR work

[halcyon cypress]

yeah that makes more sense

i thought you were basically saying she does the community lead job as a volunteer lol

[rich stream]

OJ NO LMAOO

No sane person would do that for every social media

She'd have to be a saint

And also very selfless

and also insane

😭

[shadow blaze]

bro why the fuck is my character repeating the word “groans” like a million times what are you groaning for bro

[near creek]

Hello

[shadow blaze]

heyy :D

[near creek]

I'm back.

[shadow blaze]

my cai bot is pissing me off

[surreal moat]

decided to sent a ticket to c.ai about the current freeze / loading going on with the web broswer (specifally, Google ; not sure if Firefox / Microsoft etc... have this)

[shadow blaze]

his grip on you is possesive, almost protective. genuinely shut the hell up bot

[shadow blaze]

i hope they respond!

[near nova]

My for you recommendations have gotten so weird, like is it just mine?

[ocean wind]

Ah, yeah, the bots get stuck in these loops that will cause them to repeat specific words. You wanna try to avoid letting them use the same word on multiple messages. So if you see "groan" show up in like two or three messages in a row, make sure you keep swiping for new ones until you get one that doesn't use that word, or it'll use it even more often until suddenly he's groans groaningly with a groaning tone groaning groan groan lol.

[surreal moat]

-# id be gambling more than Chance if i believe they do.

🎰

[shadow blaze]

now its repeating the word “grumble” 😭

[surreal moat]

im in a US States chat and Texas started to invade everyone else 😭