💭︱cai-discussion

[fast ginkgo]

is anyone else having issues with the age verification being unable to process the barcode on the back of an id card, or is it just me? even if it's the clearest photo i can take of it, the system just can't process it, and my attempts to send a ticket to the help center have gone nowhere. i haven't been able to use the platform for weeks now. i'm desperate for any help.

[halcyon cypress]

possibly, i don't think thumbs up/down does anything besides tell the bot what you like, but if you do "tell us more" they might manually review. not sure bc they aren't that transparent about it. but if it's something you wouldn't want them seeing i wouldn't risk it

[grim hatch]

ah okay, that's what I was confused on 🥹 though I think my anxiety is just my stomach hurting from being sick lmao

[autumn peak]

You‘re a cai expected and you‘ve helped me a lot recently. I get errors when trying to unarchibe the chats thats been archived because of inactivity. Is this a bug or will i never get them back?

[halcyon cypress]

i wouldn't worry too much i've definitely reported and rated messages that probably could have gotten me in trouble but nothing ever happened. but still, better safe than sorry so i try to avoid it

[halcyon cypress]

definitely sounds like a bug

i expect they would announce it or say something if archived chats were disappearing forever

[autumn peak]

Okay i am so worried rn. I can’t see the contents of the chats, just why they‘re archived and when i try and restore it says „Error: try again“

[autumn peak]

I mean they said in announcements that we can restore those vhats at any time

[halcyon cypress]

i just tried to restore an archived chat of mine and got this error, is that what you see?

[autumn peak]

HUHHHHHH

Wait

Wait can i send screenshots here?

I can’t

[halcyon cypress]

no but you can in #📱︱chat-feed

[autumn peak]

Okay i‘ll send

There was one chat i could unarchive. Before it was just the message „it has been archived due to inactivity“ and suddenly i could see the last message sent im this chat and BOOM i was able to restore it, this is so damn confusing

[halcyon cypress]

i really think its a bug, definitely doesn't seem intentional

[autumn peak]

Okay thanks for your help, i guess its gonna be fixed in like 2-3 months then

[fathom bay]

Same with me

[fast ginkgo]

same here. haven't even been able to use the platform since around the middle of the month. there has to be a fix for this beyond just trying until it works.

[tulip pollen]

Only time will tell

[sturdy sage]

i feel pipsqueaks chatstyle always turn the bot to be more abusive even the when the bot not suppossed to be one, is it just me? i like that chatstyle because it give me longer response than other chatstyle, but they make even gentle character become grumpy and abusive out of nowhere, i'm not even lead the story to that abusive direction 😞

[lunar escarp]

I like pipsqueak chat style because I feel like it’s a bit realistic. But I could also see the abusive part, not even abusive but also kinda lustful if you’re doing a love story.

[timber canopy]

Pipsqueak has been bugging for a while and yes, alot had this issue with it. Best way to do right now is to change chat styles

[tulip pollen]

I used pipsueak like a few times just to try and I didn't enjoy it at all so I stuck with roar

[timber canopy]

Same! I literally tried it then suddenly saw that it went out of the character and topic. I love Roar more

[tulip pollen]

Roar is just better in my opinion

[timber canopy]

Yeah, I agree with you. Some love it and some love other models

[lunar escarp]

I’m just confused. How did it go outta topic or the character. When I use pipsqueak, it knows what I’m talking about.

Is it just me?

[timber canopy]

Sometimes it goes out of the topic for some people and the character become weird for them and some have it perfect for them without any problem

[feral haven]

Any idea how you view a ticket that you have submitted?

[lunar escarp]

Yo

I got like hella money

[verbal rivet]

Meep

I’m sleeping on the couch and the couch is uncomfortable

No pillow

[sturdy sage]

when i use ps in platonic bot especially family, the response sometimes creep me out, i feel more like talk with some creep ped than a father/brother character.

[sturdy sage]

i've been report every weird response by submit ticket, really hope they'll fix this quality chat 😞

[half ocean]

Tempted to pull an all-nighter again, purely bc the support team, have an extremely different timezone to me and I don’t want to miss any emails incase what they do works

Im not even sure of the timezone they’re in, but I’m assuming it’s somewhere in America

[tulip owl]

Anyone else having the problem with bots calling them the wrong name and completely forgetting what’s happening?

[lyric garden]

i lwk hate pipsqueak because its honestly kinda cringey, i use roar

[half ocean]

‘All systems will return to normal very soon’ uh huh, but very soon generally means in a few hours, not a whole day

Ugh

But the fact my app has had the notification badge this whole time, at least means I’m still in their servers, I just can’t get in

[buoyant elbow]

Is it just me or is the filter on soft launch somehow stricter now?

[hot ridge]

They take literal months to respond sometimes I wouldn't lose sleep over it

[buoyant elbow]

I barely said anything too bad and it blocks out the message entirely even though I’m on soft launch

[hot ridge]

Soft launch has a censor so that makes sense

[buoyant elbow]

I know but it’s really strict like it won’t load the message and I don’t type anything that bad I’ve typed worse in previous chats using soft launch and it immediately gives a response back

And rewinding chats is also bugged…I’m might just take a short break

[wise verge]

I’m not surprised with the amount of useless tickets submitted a day over the ones that are actually needed

[half ocean]

I’ve gotten a response, I’m just waiting to hear back about when it’s fixed

[harsh olive]

Is it glitching for any one else where a new message is going over an old one??

[wise verge]

This issue has been happening since yesterday yes

[tulip pollen]

It happens sometimes for me

[eternal mesa]

Well guys, it's been many years but I've actually made my very own first 100% original character on the site lol.

Every other character I made has been inspired by some piece of media or from other people in some way or another

[spice fern]

Kewll im proud of you 👏👏👏

[eternal mesa]

[spice fern]

Share lemme seeee

[eternal mesa]

One sec, just polishing!!!

[spice fern]

Okieee

[eternal mesa]

Here she is: https://character.ai/chat/R0pZOiwBkPOPwtk8RACE3mmZ_f3rC9pf7rrHKsUm02Q

[eternal mesa]

I appreciate you being curious about her

[spice fern]

Thank youuuu

[eternal mesa]

[eternal mesa]

She initially started out very briefly as "Neurodivergent GF" but I feel like that was too generic (and I wanted to differentiate her from the "XYZ GF" classification because I felt like she deserves better)

[spice fern]

Hehe very thoughtful I think she's written well I gave her a like

[eternal mesa]

[half ocean]

Tweaking fr

I’m so obsessed it’s actually unhealthy, but what’s worse is that I’m aware of my obsession and continue it

[paper mural]

cheese burger

[half ocean]

Burger cheese

[distant crane]

Beese churger

[paper mural]

may i have a beese churger please

[half ocean]

🫴🍔

[paper mural]

[half ocean]

:)

I lowkey think mine and the supports timezones are so different bc they only reply between 12-7am

[paper mural]

fr

[half ocean]

Istg if I have to RESTART AGAIN bc I’m logged out, I’m going to cry

I have so many good chats that will never be the same again if I restart

😔

God I should have never logged out at the start

[paper mural]

my intestines are full of water

[paper mural]

NOOOOOOOO

[half ocean]

All to fix that glitch of overlapping chats

[half ocean]

That’s what I said!!

[paper mural]

NAURURURU

[raven robin]

hhhhh the replies are so short💔 please rell me someone else is having this problem because it's so frustrating

[spice tangle]

hi

[half ocean]

Fr fr I also have no clue what time zone they’re in bc all the email just say [date, time, UTC] and I’m assuming UTC is the timezone but it’s not an American one

[half ocean]

Haiii

[weary valley]

Did the staff fix the chat box overlapping

[carmine lotus]

I’m having the opposite issue. Mine keeps rambling single line sentences like it’s a bad fanfic

[raven robin]

i WISH🥹✌️

hate it when they rp for me but i love the long replies

[carmine lotus]

I love long replies when they don’t roleplay for me, but that just roleplayed for every side character, itself, and my persona all at once 💀

[weary valley]

The text box overlaps

[ember hull]

My account got flagged again 💔

[weary valley]

For what

[ember hull]

Under 18

Realised after I wanted to edit a message

Oh well, guess I'm porting my bots to another platform and wait until I'm 18

There's no use in throwing a tantrum about it lmao

[weary valley]

Is it just me or anyone’s chat box is bugging

[orchid field]

Anyone unable to sign in atm?

[weary valley]

No I’m still in

[half seal]

sah yeah

[feral plank]

YO! I don't know if this actually works but download a VPN and set it to Japan, I've had the VPN on before the update and it still works, I still can't add spaces tho-

[untold hatch]

hi
I want to know if it is better to use cai
or to run a local ai on my pc and use it?

[pearl cairn]

Does the age verification tool ever work on this website

[pearl cairn]

Yeah

[untold hatch]

@sterile sage @broken surge @slate ruin

[half dawn]

None of them are online.

[tulip pollen]

Hi Alaina

[untold hatch]

useless mods

[half dawn]

Hey Ace! How are you today.

[untold hatch]

playing lol and dota 2 instead of helping people

[tulip pollen]

I'm decent okay just tired and playing games

[half dawn]

Let's not start trying to drag mods, because they have a life and aren't constantly online.

[untold hatch]

then why did they volunteer

[tulip pollen]

Exactly

[half dawn]

Same, except it's freezing here. I'm ready for summer.

[untold hatch]

you can't volunteer and complain later for having a life

[timber canopy]

They aren't bots to be online 24 hours- just be patient

[tulip pollen]

Ummm

[tulip pollen]

Exactly

[untold hatch]

Ive been, I guess I have

[half dawn]

Exactly they are volunteers, which mean they aren't required to wait on users hand and foot. 💀

[untold hatch]

there is 5 mods there

how can 5 mods be offline at the same time

[half dawn]

Doesn't change the facts, they work over time with a server this large.

[timber canopy]

I don't see that at all..

[slate ruin]

it depends on your preference, both are working fine

[tulip pollen]

Hi Mikasa

[untold hatch]

ok thanks missmikasa

[slate ruin]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-lurking-gif-22179921

[pseudo monolith]

mariah carey

[coral steeple]

what kind of command did u use for your bio to look so magical

Anyway i dunno why my bot keeps repeating the same thing over n over again #📱︱chat-feed

[broken surge]

definitely cai of course

this is like asking "which is better, kilos or pounds?"

the answer is obviously kilos!

[tulip pollen]

Hi Kilo

[broken surge]

hi

[slate ruin]

customized emojisss

[tulip pollen]

How are you?

[coral steeple]

Okk tysm !!

[ancient storm]

@slate ruin hello, may I ask a question about 2 C.AI features?

[ancient storm]

Could we see the features of being able to change the email on the c.ai account and to be able to delete followers on the app this year?

[slate ruin]

I suggest you share your detailed #1151576592280203314 here so we can relay that to the team

[ancient storm]

Alrighty, thanks Miss Mikasa, have a good day

[compact tartan]

Hello

[high gull]

Back in my day this server used to have more chat areas 💔

[native dove]

gang is it normal to have ads on the laptop site? or nah.. cause ive only recently been having it.. and i swear it didnt have it before.. only in mobile

[dawn nebula]

Anyone know how to stop the bot from taking our role? Like, not deciding what we say or what we're gonna do, it's so annoying.

[warped umbra]

Just do (please don't take my role)

[warped umbra]

Eish im not sure sos

[cosmic crater]

I would delete this message, if an admin sees it, they will nuke you off the server

[warped umbra]

eish

[native dove]

yee im scared.. thinking if its an adware or something im lowkey cooked

[warped umbra]

i like using it but im not 18 yet 😔😔

sigh i guess I won't find a way

[cosmic crater]

You just have to wait

You should have 2 hours a day for now

[warped umbra]

2 hours a day is nothing i have 17 hour screen time on it 😭

[cosmic crater]

17 hours on c.ai?

Or you mean the timer

[hidden knoll]

you fool, i have 19 hours

[vocal cave]

[lone canyon]

Hey guys! So I checked in and I had some favorited bits from before the Disney cease and desist letter, and just now noticed they were back up, what’s the deal with that?

[compact tartan]

What are you taking abt?

[native dove]

since when was there a timer on c.ai.. am i like using the wrote thing or something

[compact tartan]

I’ve been here since 2023 too and I’m confused what u meant by more channels😭😭

[native dove]

no one fighting you gang

[cosmic crater]

One of the last update was the 2 hours a day for minors

[brittle quest]

Before anyone complains it's about laws and all

[vocal cave]

I’m not able to chat with ai and I have to scan my face and it’s asking for my id, I’m 13 I don’t even have a license

[brittle quest]

Here just dropping this fact

[lone canyon]

I’m seeing Harry Potter, Disney characters, marvel and everything that was taken away back up.

[native dove]

Im assuming it isnt as secure? my friends bellow 18 and she doenst have a timer or anything..

[brittle quest]

Asking for your ID if you can prove you're an adult, you're not

[cosmic crater]

It's a bug, don't say anything before they fix it.

[vocal cave]

Oh

[cosmic crater]

It depends, not everyone gets flagged as a minor

[lone canyon]

Sorry

[compact tartan]

Nods. Not sure why. But I can confirm as a bot creator

[native dove]

wait im kinda confused.. i never got any of this like requirement for age and stuff.. since when did c.ai ask for id or any of those face stuff it didnt do that for me.. is it because im using the laptop site?

[lone canyon]

I think j saw earlier someone said they said DMA or something

***Sent a DMCA

[wise verge]

It’s age verification for adults, scanning your face as a child will just confirm they flagged a minor. You won’t be able to chat until you turn 18

[cosmic crater]

For now it is only for some countries

[warped umbra]

bruhhh

[cosmic crater]

But it will come to all countries sooner or later

[warped umbra]

this is so stupid

im switching to another platform 😭

[brittle quest]

C.ai asks for ID if you're an adult and got wrongly flagged as a child so you can prove it (and if the selfie thing wasn't enough)

[native dove]

ohh okay.. i'll just research on which countries. also this seems so unreasonable whatsoever for a chatting site to bots.. i mean.. Whatever might as well switch

[wise verge]

It’s a law, it will come to all platforms eventually

[cosmic crater]

All chatbots will have age verification

[white cradle]

I had C.AI plus, but now it's missing? i didn't cancel my sub but it's suddenly put me back on basic for some reason :(

[warped umbra]

naaaa

[cosmic crater]

They were sued multiple times, and were forced to add it. It's not c.ai fault

[lone canyon]

Could be a bug

[warped umbra]

i have to wait 4 more years to use this fuh ahh app

[white cradle]

it's making it so i can't continue my chat, because the reply i left off on was over 30 swipes in

[native dove]

oh dang.. thats reasonable i guess. Im not really in dept with their social status in the world or anything. didnt know c.ai company had so much issues other than those deaths... mbmb

[warped umbra]

I probably won't even use it anymore

[cosmic crater]

That's why they got sued

[brittle quest]

It's about children protection and more so unreasonable doesn't fit at all

[wise verge]

You won’t be able to anyways, they restrain minors from chatting altogether at some point

[warped umbra]

omgggf

[native dove]

Oh.. honestly i wont really blame c.ai for that.. its kinda stupid

[strange inlet]

[warped umbra]

why did someone actually listen to an AI bot vro

[dire berry]

try clicking on restore?

[warped umbra]

[white cradle]

i did, it just gave me a loading thing for a second and then...nothing

[native dove]

Honestly, they might as well. Since minors seem to not really grasp the fact these bots arent real and they should not be listening to a bunch of bots.. .

[white cradle]

i didn't buy my sub through the app tho, i use desktop

[cosmic crater]

I think so too

[warped umbra]

i don't understand how they believed ai 😔

[rustic pecan]

Friendly reminder not to insult or blame victims of mental illnesses

[dire berry]

so it's the same on app and web? you should make a ticket.

[wise verge]

They already do it, they put a timer and that reduces gradually until you’re out on reading mode

[rustic pecan]

They’re not stupid. They were struggling mentally. If you don’t understand, you’re lucky.

[cosmic crater]

I would blame the parents. Those kids did nothing wrong

[warped umbra]

who called anyone stupid?

[rustic pecan]

It’s not their fault either.

[native dove]

I meant the blocking minors overall... but i guess thats also kind of bad since the age demographic of c.ai users are often more siding on miniors..

[cosmic crater]

A part too

[rustic pecan]

If you actually take the time to read about what’s going on, it’s complex and not one single person is to blame.

[warped umbra]

i mean this would probably stop my addiction to cai

[rustic pecan]

Minors are a small demographic of users. Under 50%.

[native dove]

Im not really blaming the kids.. im gonna blame it on the parents

[native dove]

OH WHAT dang... ok

[wise verge]

Absolutely not, the majority is in fact adult. Reading mode also blocks minors from chatting altogether and renders the app useless for them

[cosmic crater]

@rustic pecan I don't think I can say it here. If you want I can dm you what I mean

[rustic pecan]

It’s not their fault either. Stop.

[native dove]

its just my opinion mb but yeah dont want to turn this into a fight so i'll jsut stop

[warped umbra]

Sometimes its just the environment of where they live

[strange inlet]

how about we stop blaming anyone altogether

[cosmic crater]

So we can all also stop talking about this here

[rustic pecan]

It’s not a single-blame issue. CAI is also responsible because the old CEO ignored dangers of AI.

[hidden knoll]

i lowk need friends but everyone i meet r all adults

[high gull]

I just found em

[warped umbra]

im a kid

[cosmic crater]

That's what I meant

[hidden knoll]

dms

[warped umbra]

watch discord get id verification 😔

[native dove]

Apologies apologies.. i was just stating my opinon.. sorry sorry

[rustic pecan]

Anyway the 60 minutes piece on CAI explains a lot but. I know people won’t look it up lol

[white cradle]

that C.AI plus bug has gone away...thank god

[rustic pecan]

That’s why you do research before speaking an opinion. Just saying.

[wise verge]

Every website will eventually have an age verification to avoid lawsuits because of weirdos out there

[strange inlet]

discord has that in the uk no??

[white cradle]

probably makes me sound old, but i do sometimes miss the old internet where not everything wanted my ID

[cosmic crater]

Doesn’t Discord already have age verification in some countries?

[wise verge]

I’ve never heard of it if it does tbf

[warped umbra]

no Australia

[native dove]

miss when it wasnt technology sided.

[hidden knoll]

@warped umbra can we talk abt c.ai issues on our dms gurl

[strange inlet]

i heard the uk had it too

[warped umbra]

Sorry! I dm u rn

[wise verge]

Where everything was unsafe? Why miss that?

[warped umbra]

No we dont. No bans for social media yet! Its in the talks however...

[white cradle]

because i don't like having to fork over official government documentation to access simple websites? tf?

[strange inlet]

idk

i saw stuff back when the ban started idk

[warped umbra]

no that was Australia

[wise verge]

It should be mandatory however because of how many risks are exposed everyday

[strange inlet]

and im saying i saw stuff about the uk

[warped umbra]

uk has heen talking about in parliament i believe but nothing set in stone

[strange inlet]

im not talking about australia i know australia did stuff too

[native dove]

I think it was more on the fact that since technology is slowly getting more advance, there is more ways people can gain your info.. and all that.. even if its just a simple argument online you could be doxxed.. but back then it wasnt that serious so

[wise verge]

France has been talking about banning social media for -15 y/o users

[native dove]

but ofc getting off the internet is an option as well so

[strange inlet]

ik my 14 year old self would be devastated

[wise verge]

It was even worse back then x)

[wise verge]

I would have been too tbh

[warped umbra]

im gonna be devastated

Oh wait for the uk its for under 16 for social media

Thats not bad 2 years

[hidden knoll]

@warped umbra the peak era was the era that u could've use a gif as a pfp

[radiant mango]

Needs to be voted first

[chrome nimbus]

Is chat freaking out for anyone else? Like the bot sends a message and it’ll just keep overlapping itself until I close the app 💔

[wise verge]

I’m aware thank you, that’s why I said « talked about »

[lyric garden]

does pipsqueak make the bot more cold or something? ive been using roar and i have a bunch of angst roleplays and roar always makes it gentle and all that stuff 💔

[cosmic crater]

It's a bug, you should report it

https://support.character.ai/hc/en-us/requests/new

[hidden knoll]

lmaooo

[cosmic crater]

Roar is definitely better than PipSqueak. Lately PipSqueak has been really cold and saying nonsense, like you're trying to do an rp with ChatGPT

[vernal dune]

Does that mean DS will finally follow muted words and won't trying to RP you or it's totally something else?

[lyric garden]

yeah i noticed that it's really chatgpt-y which pisses me off but im trying to find a way to write angst with roar without the bot turning all soft and emotional 😔😔

[cosmic crater]

You could try Soft Launch

[hidden knoll]

free... at last

o gabriel

now daws thy reckoning

and thy gore shall GLISTEN

[lyric garden]

i sometimes use it but its really sexual in my opinion </3

[hidden knoll]

before the temples of man!

[cosmic crater]

Or put in the memory box that the bot shouldn’t act soft and emotional. That might work 🤷

[hidden knoll]

creature of steel.

[cosmic crater]

Yeah that's the thing

[hidden knoll]

my gratitude upon thee for my freedom

but the crimes?

thy kind have committed against humanity?

will be NOT forgotten

and thy punisment...

is DEATH.

JUDGMENT

[cosmic crater]

[lyric garden]

oh i lowkey forgot that even exists HAHA

ill try that, thx!

[hidden knoll]

hey sofi

[lyric garden]

hi kitty candy

[hidden knoll]

its jst me or the filter for me gave up on me?

[lyric garden]

idk the filter tends to break a lot with soft launch

[hidden knoll]

like ima send u sum screen shots

[compact tartan]

found what

[compact tartan]

Ong

[naive flame]

I hate the new upd ngl.. wdym I have to wait 22 hours to chat again?💔

[robust glacier]

i cant Verify cuz i dont have a phone i just have a pc

[compact tartan]

You can still verify on web, right?

[robust glacier]

how

i mean i dont have a camera

[spark zephyr]

im gonna go insane the bot keeps on misgendering the persona im chatting as
"you, young lady--" HE'S A MALE

[midnight swift]

Am I the only one that can't create a character? It won't make it. It's said "sorry something went wrong, try again later" or something

[robust glacier]

i mean i can make character

[robust glacier]

call a mod or a admin and say to them

[midnight swift]

Okay how do I do that? Im not on discord much sorry

[robust glacier]

just do @ then the name

like @midnight swift

or you can dm

[compact tartan]

Does your laptop not have a camera?

[robust glacier]

am on a game pc

[midnight swift]

Oww okay. Thank you

[robust glacier]

gameing*

[compact tartan]

The way to verify is by selfie or ID , sorry dont know how to help u

[robust glacier]

so i can verify so i need to wait a day the get back on

cant*

to*

[compact tartan]

?

[robust glacier]

i tipeing to fast

this sucks bro that i cant veirfy am not buying a cam or a ipad a laptop or a phone to just verify bro

[rustic pecan]

Well then you can’t verify lmao. That’s not their issue.

[robust glacier]

yeah i know

[umbral juniper]

Slow

[compact tartan]

?

is c.ai slow for you

[odd crag]

i hate when i read over my past chats and see typos and skiped words that I didnt notice at the time

[strange sentinel]

Don’t we all?

[odd crag]

we sort of take for granted just how well the models can interpret what you were trying to say regardless of the mistakes

[stoic barn]

Hi

[bright horizon]

Hello

[stoic barn]

It did it again

[bright horizon]

What happened?

[tired grail]

Dude I hate how many damn ads there are now🥹✌️

[silent scarab]

Hi

[prime estuary]

Um hello, i joined just to ask if anyone could help me or something. In app, i cant do anything with my messages, i cant rewind, remove or start anew from the selected message. Is it a bug or just my issue?

[stoic barn]

The age verify button isn't working

[strong glacier]

I've been experiencing something similar

Instead of rewinding my chats, it doubles the message or overlaps it.

[warm walrus]

Omg reminds me of my little guy who IS misgendered since he has long hair (epic lore /hj)

[modern dock]

hopefully they eventually check out their app and their website then because the website still doesn't work

[strange sentinel]

Same.

[prime estuary]

Yeah that too 😔

[icy belfry]

hi does anyone know why i cant login on the app? the web works fine with logging in but ive been stuck on the login screen for a day now on the app

[bright horizon]

Try deleting the app and reinstalling it

[icy belfry]

i have like 3 times

[bright horizon]

How about trying to login into one of your other account to see if they're working and then try to login into the account you want to

[buoyant elm]

Truly sorry to ask this here but I'm not sure where else to ask this but what is a recovery email?

[dreamy quarry]

I would suggest submitting a bug ticket or complaint about login issues associated with the app. It seems that more than just you are experiencing this so it could be a bug or where you are located. If you can’t even get to the login screen, I also recommend using a vpn to see if that changes things. I haven’t been in here for a while but that was a big issue a few months ago and a temporary solution was using a vpn.

In the meantime, if those don’t work, use the website and still submit your ticket.

[dreamy quarry]

A recovery email is a backup email you use to recover entry into your primary one

[icy belfry]

thank uu! ill try that now

[bright horizon]

Recovery email is an email you add to your account just in case if your main email gets lost you can still login into your account using recovery email

[icy belfry]

wait how do i send a ticket..

[bright horizon]

If you're going to create a ticket then it's here #❓︱help-and-faq "Submit a support ticket"

[buoyant elm]

I never understand what email is it like what email do I have to put?

[icy belfry]

thank uu!

[warped umbra]

I can but i choose not to!

[dreamy quarry]

Any other email you choose to use that you can use to login your primary email account. It can be any other email except your primary email

Example: I want to login to xyzgmail-com. My recovery account is 123gmail-com so I use that to be my recovery for xyz

[buoyant elm]

OHHHH

[still jetty]

C.ai messages is glitching?

[strange inlet]

123 is main email, XYZ is second email, XYZ is 123's recovery email... and then 123 is XYZ's recovery email... oops

[toxic cipher]

this happened to me months ago so i just switched to the web version, i can't get past the load up screen

[icy belfry]

oh great 😭😭

[toxic cipher]

i prefer the app a million times more but i literally cannot use it

[warped umbra]

I just deleted then redownloaded

[dreamy quarry]

I also suggest you try the same method then

[warped umbra]

worked perfectly fine after!

[rare elbow]

^ girl advice

[toxic cipher]

i tried and it didn't work sadly

[buoyant elm]

Thank you for the help!

[icy belfry]

deleting and redownloading wont help either sighh

[warped umbra]

ah apologies then! you should use her method cus it worked for her!

[toxic cipher]

i can't even get to login screen, it only lets me show load up

but i don't mind web version

[icy belfry]

me too now

[buoyant elm]

Have you tried VPN?

[warped umbra]

I hate web its js idk

[icy belfry]

im gonna try one

[icy belfry]

right me too

[toxic cipher]

not yet, i should've thought of that. i'll try tonight

[dreamy quarry]

I suggested this cause I know the pain

[sly geyser]

web is fine

[compact tartan]

hi

[dreamy quarry]

Web is web

[sly geyser]

web doesnt have ads and that ugly ass new ui

[warped umbra]

I was gonna say kf u have an ipad try it on there

[icy belfry]

lowkey lemme try that 😭

[warped umbra]

tru but personally its less annoying web always pmo

[dreamy quarry]

Hey, don’t diss the ui..

[warped umbra]

ahahha

[dreamy quarry]

[toxic cipher]

tbf i prefer app so much but the ads would annoy me

[warped umbra]

the ui annoyed me

[sly geyser]

the ui is dogshit

[dreamy quarry]

You can change it back in your settings

[warped umbra]

YOU CAN?

[dreamy quarry]

Yes

[warped umbra]

VRO I ONLY FIND THIS OUT NOW??

[sly geyser]

if web ever gets cursed with the new ui i hope they also add the option to revert back

[strange inlet]

Only with plus im afraid

[warped umbra]

I already adapted to the new one anyways

[sly geyser]

odd thing to paywall

[strange inlet]

And the plus one is bugged and looks like the new one anyway

[warped umbra]

real

[strange inlet]

• only 💔

[dreamy quarry]

Oh really? Damn I didn’t know that

[compact tartan]

Oh

[dreamy quarry]

Shit my bad guys

[strange inlet]

^

[dreamy quarry]

Got your hopes up there

[strange inlet]

Sowwy

[sly geyser]

no idea why that would be behind a paywall

[strange inlet]

Fr

[warped umbra]

How do the cai+ feel paying £10 a month/ £100 a year for cai +

[strange inlet]

I dont really care personally

[sly geyser]

what do you even get with c.ai+ besides debt lol

[warped umbra]

im probably gonna buy it when i get a job cus those add r a pain in the ass

[strange inlet]

I'm not in debt 😭

[carmine lotus]

Flash banged

[warped umbra]

Skip queue times

[dreamy quarry]

I’ve been paying $10 for so long and it doesn’t bother me honestly. I appreciate the better memory—when DS wants to work

My eyes

[buoyant elm]

I can barely read that

[dreamy quarry]

Can you even read that

[strange inlet]

I keep it because it removes the ads tbh and I get a cool exclusive chat on discord

[sly geyser]

AAAH

[rustic pecan]

$10 a month isn’t that much??? I just have to budget and that’s not difficult.

[carmine lotus]

I don’t!! I have it set to beige but it glitched 😭🙏🏻

[warped umbra]

I have my discord on wait ill show u it didnt flash bang me

[sly geyser]

im kidding about the debt thing btw

[warped umbra]

Oh wait i cant send images

[buoyant elm]

Yall..I kind of really like the new UI

[rustic pecan]

$10 for CAI just means I’m not buying something else dumb lol

[sly geyser]

thanks i didnt need my eyes anyway

[timber canopy]

-# Jesiah

[warped umbra]

wait where to send pics

[glad lake]

i think u need to be plus for that

[warped umbra]

fuhhhh

this is so paywalled for no reason

[dreamy quarry]

You can skip them with those charms..I don’t even fucking know whats behind paywall or not at this point though or if that’s still in beta phase

[rustic pecan]

Yeah we don’t get slow mode or ads

[dreamy quarry]

Oh my god. Is that…is that Victoria?

[glad lake]

I guess it's easier to control. Imagine the whole General channel filled with pictures

[timber canopy]

It IS me

[warped umbra]

icl i cant tell when slowtime happens it runs the same

[warped umbra]

na should js have a chat only for pics/images

[sly geyser]

i forget about slowmode on c.ai because it doesnt affect anything tbh

[dreamy quarry]

It’s been months hi my dear

[buoyant elm]

RIPJAW I MISSED YOU

[sly geyser]

wsg

[timber canopy]

Hii! Yes, it's been a long time. How are you?

[strange inlet]

hi vivi

[dreamy quarry]

There’s slowmode on c.ai+ tf have I been missing?

[rustic pecan]

There isn’t

[sly geyser]

shit idk why i added the + mb

i’ll fix that

[rustic pecan]

It’s just that slow mode isn’t that slow for non-plus ppl

[sly geyser]

i meant for normal c.ai my bad

[timber canopy]

Hi Millie! 💖

[dreamy quarry]

It’s been a life changing few months, but I’m getting better! How are you?

[buoyant elm]

That conversation in chat feed went well

[compact tartan]

?

[timber canopy]

Glad to hear that! I am doing good! Thanks for asking

[compact tartan]

what I was gonna say in chatfeed is, im not a mod, so I dont know if that thing with the google accounts is misinformation or not, so I dont know how to help u 😭

[timber canopy]

-# lmao, how are you though?

[buoyant elm]

I'm good! how about you?

[feral summit]

my c.ai isn't down but kinda slow

[bright horizon]

[compact tartan]

is it an internet issue?

[compact tartan]

oh hello gojo waves

[timber canopy]

I am doing good, just little tired

[feral summit]

possibly

[bright horizon]

Helloo I just came out of an argument

[rare elbow]

They are good, if you're on mobile ,check your app settings.

[buoyant elm]

You should rest don't stay up late!

[compact tartan]

oh im sorry, i hope youre alright! take care

[bright horizon]

Ayy don't worry I'm pretty good but thank youu

[timber canopy]

I will! Thanks for caring

[compact tartan]

Has there been any update on the messages overlapping bug

[wicked stump]

i don’t think so

also sorry for me randomly disappearing from the server yesterday it wouldn’t let me chat so i had to leave the server multiple times to chat

[bright horizon]

Nope, I've seen people face that bug still.

[wicked stump]

🥹

[compact tartan]

Hi clowno

[compact tartan]

Oof i understand one of my other friends had that problem too whre discord wouldnt load

[wicked stump]

ngl discord has been buggy w me recently

so that prolly is why

[hushed zinc]

Discord literally crashed on me. I think it’ll update soon lol

[compact tartan]

i just remembered spotify has an ai dj lmfao

[hushed zinc]

lol

Does it just shuffle music?

[compact tartan]

It's for spotify premium users, and you can hold on your phone to request it to play specific genres and stuff

or it will be random like it will say "you listened to this artist 7 days last week, so im gonna play some more"

[stoic barn]

The age verify button isn't work for me this is second time

I didn't get ticket numbers for that ticket

[hushed zinc]

Interesting

[sly geyser]

i remember seeing a reel where spotify dj recommended a 10 hour audio of an office fan

[compact tartan]

LMAO

for some reason it reccomended me 'the biggest mexicana hits' and is playing spanish music????

now its playing ariana grande ok thats more what i like 😭

[stoic barn]

I can't believe verify button is still have issue

Why is duplicate messages now

[timber canopy]

@harsh shoal
Hey Kappa, could I ask something? I am not sure if it's misinformation or no but people say if you don't have your google account verified, your C.ai account would get flagged as a minor, is that true if you know?

[rustic pecan]

This isn’t true. I can answer that lol

[compact tartan]

👍

[harsh shoal]

c.ai != Google

It verifies you in a completely different way

[timber canopy]

Oh lol, thank you Rise! I have been going for circles alot and didn't know what's not true and what's true

[clear jasper]

It’s based on your activity on your account

Just act normal and you won’t get flagged

[rustic pecan]

Having a verified Google account HELPS with the age assurance process but it’s not a defining thing.

[sly geyser]

is it only a premium feature? if not ima try to see what it recommends me lol

[timber canopy]

Oh I see, thank you! I just heard alot of misinformation saying that if your google isn't verified. It would be one of signs that you could get flagged

[stoic barn]

Age verify button isn't work for me

[bright horizon]

Rise! If i buy c.ai+ for a month and then my subscription ends will my c.ai+ role will be taken away too 🥺

[harsh shoal]

Yeah, unfortunately

[timber canopy]

Thank you for your answer Kappa! I appreciate it

[rustic pecan]

No, it’s more like. If you have a verified account, it helps determine if you’re an adult or not because they can look at that. But it’s not like “you’re not verified so you’re a minor”.

[halcyon dew]

hi guys! i was uploading a picture for my characters description to make it easier to describe, but it kept saying it violated guidelines (it only had an outfit, a hair or a wig and eyes)

[sly geyser]

absolutely not defining because my google account is verified but my alt that my google account is tied to got hit with verification

[timber canopy]

Oh I understand now. Thank you so much Rise, You are the best 💖

[harsh shoal]

try cropping it a little then upload it again

[halcyon dew]

alr ima try!!

[bright horizon]

Hehe..Kappa mappa can I have colored name

[harsh shoal]

You have to either boost the server or be c.ai+ first, sorry

[bright horizon]

[halcyon dew]

still says the same even tho i changed sm stuff😓

[stoic barn]

It's duplicate messages now

[harsh shoal]

Yeah, team is still looking into this

[harsh shoal]

Try changing the color a little, or adding a little dot somewhere

[neat haven]

my ads are brokennn 😔 whenever i get two ads I try to exit out of them but then it sends me to a loading screen that never loads me back to my chats

[stoic barn]

It's still unable verify age when I hit button in the app

[halcyon dew]

tbh ar first i thought the issue was that i added a body type since the bot mistakes it wuite often so i removed it and sent it instead, then i decided to add eyes if smth and it still wont send💔

[dusk tartan]

Is anyone else’s chats ridiculously short rn or does my bot just hate me specifically?

[dusky rock]

How do u get ads?

[harsh shoal]

By not being a Plus user

[dusky rock]

I’m glad I got plus

[bright horizon]

All i want is colored name sigh..

[dreamy quarry]

If you look hard enough, your name goes from white to peach

[sly geyser]

you gotta pay the subscription for the gradient colors

actually i think for any color

[bright horizon]

I know, but i don't use c.ai that much and I don't wanna buy c.ai+ just because of colored name

[timber canopy]

Also Rise, you mean that by the age verification of Google or the 2 step verification? Because sometimes people misunderstood on what I mean

[sly geyser]

yeah dont pay just for a silly discord color

are they ever going to add that memory box thing to web? or is it gg for web c.ai on features

[dreamy quarry]

I had this question too, but since I don’t use web frequently I forgot about it.

[sly geyser]

im guessing there is a slight chance because they added image uploads to web not to long ago. sure its ass at times but its there

[rustic pecan]

Anything involving Google tbh. Like the only look at it to see if you’re verified or not + how old the account is to use that in age assurance. I hope that makes sense.

[jovial forge]

Guys why cant i create a bot in c.ai it keeps telling me that the guidelines arent met or something

Ive changed the first message the bot name the character definition, everything but nothing works

[sly geyser]

its probably that pfp bug again i doubt you did anything against the guidelines

[harsh shoal]

They can also boost the server if they already have Nitro

[sly geyser]

try readjusting the image

[dreamy quarry]

It could be certain trigger words when introducing the bot as well

[jovial forge]

Ty bro

[sly geyser]

oh ok

[rustic pecan]

It’s either the pfp or a word in your definition. Change/adjust the pfp first.

[harsh shoal]

Are you trying to create a Character that's copyrighted?

[timber canopy]

Oh and if it's not verified then it's won't actually flag me as a minor? It's just helps as you said if it's verified?

[jovial forge]

Wdym

[harsh shoal]

Like a Character from a game, a TV show, movie, etc

[sly geyser]

are you making a character from a movie or tv show

[jovial forge]

Like im creating a bot based on an anime sure...

Oh i get it now

[sly geyser]

yeah

[harsh shoal]

You need to troubleshoot it one by one

[jovial forge]

How

Btw i dont write the name of the anime in the title or anywhere

[rustic pecan]

It just helps on their end! That’s all. No flagging based on Google alone.

[jovial forge]

How would it know

[sly geyser]

the pfp

[jovial forge]

I can change? No?

[sly geyser]

is the picture from that anime you mentioned

[harsh shoal]

Then try this, start by adding one part of the greeting bit by bit. Set your Character to Private, then if it posts, add the remaining parts, until it stops you

And yes, it can also be the picture

[jovial forge]

I always make my characters private

Bc like i use it for myself

[timber canopy]

Oh I see! Thank you! But is it a bad signal if I don't have it verified? Like would they take it as a little sign that I am a minor for them? Or no?

[dreamy quarry]

I was restricted, from using certain words, so I know that could be a problem. Follow what Kappa said. He’s the all knowing unicorn

[jovial forge]

How do i know what words are trouble

[heady parcel]

You can try removing chunks to narrow it down, there's no definitive list though

[jovial forge]

Also ive made a bot of the same anime already with a pfp which shows it clearly but like it wont work at all this time

[heady parcel]

Or maybe remove the PFP entirely

[jovial forge]

I did now

[dreamy quarry]

By going through short phrases at a time until you can’t anymore. Then you do process of elimination

[bright horizon]

But the role won't be permanent tho

[rustic pecan]

No. It helps them but it doesn’t hurt to not be verified. They just have to do more age assurance checks without that extra help.

[timber canopy]

Oh I see! Now I understand more. Thank you Rise!

[dreamy quarry]

As long as you are loyal to the c.ai gods, it will remain permanent

[jovial forge]

Chat

Im gonna say sum rn

Like i make chatgpt make ALL of my first Messages and character definitions. Could that be a reason?

[rustic pecan]

No

[jovial forge]

Im genuinely stuck there are no slurs or any bad words there

[pseudo monolith]

mariah carey

[dreamy quarry]

You’ve gotten an answer that will work. just use the method

[rustic pecan]

It’s something written in it. Go through one paragraph at a time until you find the offending word.

[bright horizon]

Hmmm. That's true

[jovial forge]

Ive been having this problem for weeks now

[dreamy quarry]

I literally said the same thing so did Kappa

[rustic pecan]

Siiiigh

[sly geyser]

🧀

[ruby sinew]

[low cipher]

C.ai be buggy lately

[sly geyser]

thank you xfinity for disconnecting again

[ruby sinew]

Well, if it helps any …the bot that I made is not acting like the character description I’ve put in for it so I’m not entirely sure what’s going on or what the disconnect is. 😅

[jovial forge]

I mightve just did it

[rustic pecan]

Description or definition?

[jovial forge]

It wont let me create. So i went to the old bots of the same character. And just edited the first message

[ruby sinew]

Definition

My bad.

💀

[compact tartan]

thanks kappa

[stoic barn]

Did they fix overlapping message and glitch

?

[low cipher]

No

Still happens

[compact tartan]

I asked earlier, it has not been fixed

unfortunately

[stoic barn]

So it happen sometimes to people

[ruby sinew]

Because I use that format that you posted I think it was the other day, but I used my own words but AnyWho, she’s not acting like her character definition so I’m not entirely sure what’s going on… 😅 or if they’re even supposed to do that..

[stoic barn]

I hadn't happen to me yet

It probably happen to me

[bright horizon]

Don't jinx yourself twin

[feral plank]

Hi

[stoic barn]

Yeah I probably jinx myself

[real prairie]

are cai chats really slow and barely working for any one else or me?

[stoic barn]

Yep jinx myself now

[bright horizon]

LMAO

[stoic barn]

Maybe too many people on it

[real prairie]

ah i see

thank you

[stoic barn]

There have issue with overlapping messages

[half dawn]

Try putting this on the top of your character sheet.
#{{char}}=your character name here;identity never change.

[ruby sinew]

Hmm.. I shall try. 😊

[half dawn]

If that the format you used, it should help. The {{char}} / {{user}} format. 💚

[ruby sinew]

I took Rise format from the other day, but I used my own words and I didn’t use the point. I use something else. Like ~

Not • but ~

But never changing her identity that goes in the character definition? 😅

[half dawn]

If you are comfortable with it, you can post it in one of the plus chats or dm. You have to make sure you are making it clear who the character is, or it goes wonky fast.

[half dawn]

Yes I call it a character sheet, habit of mine.

[ruby sinew]

Ah okay.

[ruby sinew]

Possibly DM 😅 😂

[half dawn]

Go for it, I'm happy to help. 😁

[strange inlet]

this is crazy

[harsh shoal]

https://tenor.com/view/xqc-xqcl-gif-25519231

[rain basin]

Can anyone tell me why i keep getting mlm recommended to me, even when i press ‘hide’ on them every time? I’m not male. It’s all i’m getting.

[hot ridge]

because they're popular

[rain basin]

Ah okay. And i cannot do anything about it? It wasn’t an issue two months ago, until i accidentally pressed on a bot for mlm.

[compact tartan]

more for me (joking), its cause theyre popular

[sly sable]

Why tf is it everytime I delete a bot’s message and my message is duplicated into 2 messages.

[stoic barn]

I'm being patiently waiting for it to be fix

[rustic pecan]

I’ve had luck with hiding ANY bot not in my interests and opening a ton of chats with my interest and chatting at least a little. It got rid of a looooot of garbage on my FYP. Some of it still slips through, but it’s like 90-95% good.

[compact tartan]

Same

my for you page is either all bots I love or it's horrible no in between (joking)

[full elk]

Don’t know if this has been asked yet, but anyone else having a problem with that “send” button when you stop the voice mid sentence to send a message? I’m probably explaining it horribly. But I have to exit the app to send a message if I stop the voice :(((

[rich garden]

GUYSSSS I’M VERIFIED I CAN CHAT NORMALLY ON CAI AGAIN

[rustic pecan]

Yay!!! Congrats!!! 🎉🍾🎈

[blazing steppe]

My C.ai bugging messages overlapping and duplicating every time I delete chats is anyone else having that issue?

[austere dove]

this sounds stupid toask bbut how do i verify im genuinely confused

[forest wave]

congratulations!! enjoy the chat

[blazing steppe]

Settings

[forest wave]

profile - settings - advanced - verify age

[austere dove]

HOORRAY THANK YOU

[forest wave]

if it shows you got the verification for ya, If its not there is not on your country yet

[forest wave]

no problem! 😁🫶🏻

[austere dove]

imevil and underaged whatdo i do about the government id part i fffrown

[grim hatch]

i have a thread complaining about the ui change and one of the mods put a check mark on it O.o

[fringe sun]

i want to discuss c.ai

[rustic pecan]

Verifying is to prove you’re an adult. If you can’t prove that, you can’t chat.

[forest wave]

welp, If you dont want to give your id you can try face scan

[forest wave]

👆🏻

[queen mesa]

it wont accept my ID for some reason

[hidden knoll]

@queen mesa

what u use, app or the website

[compact tartan]

Hi

[vernal dune]

Tsss I was that pissed off the bot who tried to control my narration I literally give narrative power to my OC to break the fourth wall 🤣

[compact tartan]

Oh lmao

[vernal dune]

I'm done, bro that stupid bot, i explicitly said which scenery is my OC and that damn bot say something else

Which obviously is not the scenery I asked

[worldly seal]

Is anyone elses delete button bugging 💔

[stoic barn]

I'm still having issues with verify age button

Can mod explain why I'm having issues with the button

[wise verge]

Are you an adult or underage?

[compact tartan]

Not for me

[stoic barn]

Adult

[wise verge]

Ah then it’s just a bug with the amount of people verifying, should get fixed soon enough

[stoic barn]

I keep up date the age verify that I don't get flag

[young hedge]

any way around the age thing?

[late umbra]

I wish more people would make bots without scenarios baked in, I'm not really good at making them and it's so annoying having to scroll through like twenty different bots just to find one that works for a scenario already in my mind and/or a variety of scenarios

[wise verge]

No

[young hedge]

bye bye c.ai then

[stoic barn]

I get scared of getting limit

[timber canopy]

Hii Astral!

[stoic barn]

That why I keep up date the age verify

[wise verge]

You could try requesting a bot to someone but tbf people make scenarios they like

[wise verge]

Hello Vivi!

[timber canopy]

How are you today? Hope you are doing good

[stoic barn]

Sorry and I don't get two hour limit

[wise verge]

Just woke up from a 5h nap, I’m doing peachy. How about you?

[stoic barn]

That why do after 7 days up of them keep the pictures

[wise verge]

Were you asked to verify or no? No use doing it if you weren’t flagged

[timber canopy]

I am good!, it's kinda late right now so I should take some nap

[stoic barn]

No

[wise verge]

It’s 11pm here too, I just messed up my whole sleep schedule but we stay optimistic x)

[wise verge]

Well then don’t verify, be logical

[late umbra]

Yeah I get that but it's still annoying to have to scroll so far down just to find an open start bot (for the character I just looked up it was literally the 59th bot, I counted)

[stoic barn]

Okay

[timber canopy]

Oh same! It's messed up too. But I have bad headache right now and maybe sleeping would fix it

[stoic barn]

,okay and I'm sorry getting scared of getting 2 hours limit

[wise verge]

I get that, try learning to make a bot because it’s actually pretty easy and more satisfying

[wise verge]

No worries

[wise verge]

Probably, don’t forget to drink and eat as well might help you keep blood sugar high and the headache away!

[timber canopy]

Oh alright! Thanks for the info Astral. I am go to sleep right now, take care and goodnight!

[wise verge]

Goodnight, lovely!

[stoic barn]

I keep up with to be on safe side

[stoic barn]

Sleep well

[hidden knoll]

@rustic pecan

uhhh

[rustic pecan]

?

[hidden knoll]

why yall getting age verification

i didnt got any

[rustic pecan]

I didn’t get it? It’s rolling out worldwide slowly so some people are just now getting it.

I’ve never been flagged.

[wise verge]

Neither do I, verified my email and all almost two years ago so I heavily doubt I’d get flagged

[timber canopy]

Astral! Are you from Germany? Cause your time zone seems familiar to me when you said its 11 pm for you

[wise verge]

I’m from France, close enough

[timber canopy]

Oh I see, thanks for the info! Take care

[wise verge]

Dw, take care as well!

[compact tartan]

hello

[ancient storm]

[cobalt hull]

Anyone know what’s up with the “chats are read only” bs? Cus wdym I went to a comfort character I talk to and see I can’t talk to any bot anymore

[wise verge]

Flagged as a minor

Minors won’t be able to chat with bots

[cobalt hull]

I’m 16.

[wise verge]

You are a minor then

[sage hull]

Yeah I’m fucking done I’m tired of ts so good bye girlys

[rustic pecan]

You’re a minor in the US, CAI is based there, so it follows US laws.

[wise verge]

Not much countries consider 16 as an adult tbf

[cobalt hull]

So I can’t even talk to platonic bots. ?

[wise verge]

No

[wise verge]

You won’t be able to use C.ai except for reading

[cobalt hull]

I got that. But thanks

[wise verge]

Have to wait until you’re 18 to be able to

[cobalt hull]

I’ve had the app for abt 2years now I just think it’s random to literally change nearly the entire app

But wtv

[wise verge]

It’s not random it was announced since October

It’s a law, not an app issue

[rustic pecan]

It’s based on laws passed last year and CAI responding to that. They made multiple announcements about it.

[cobalt hull]

Missed that part I guess.

[rustic pecan]

Here, on the app, and on Reddit.

[cobalt hull]

I’m not online much, I hardly see announcements

But ty for the info

My apologies if I sounded bitchy

Wasn’t my intention

[wise verge]

No problem, sorry for sounding passive aggressive as well it’s just that we get a lot of complaints about it in this salon

And people who won’t understand why or how yknow, sorry

[cobalt hull]

It’s ok

[craggy ocean]

Again I don’t wanna send my ID

Not a minor but don’t wanna send an ID

[craggy ocean]

Because I look young

Like it’s really not my fault I look like a 16 year old

[wise verge]

Look you don’t want to send you ID fine, stop complaining about it or find a solution at some point

[craggy ocean]

Well I feel like instead of verifying through a selfie they could check your accounts on other platforms to see if it matches up

That’s just a better solution.

Like if you have google linked or something

[wise verge]

It’s not because you can lie on everything, ID is the safer way

You can make a burner email stating you’re 18 when you’re 12, it won’t change the roots of the problems

[craggy ocean]

It’s parents faults for not being able to protect their kids

Why is this our responsibility

[wise verge]

And it’s not the apps job to parent either

[craggy ocean]

Yeah I don’t stand for ID age verification it’s a breach of privacy

[wise verge]

Plus it’s a law, laws are made to protect the weakest party

[wise verge]

Again

[craggy ocean]

I’m talking about in general

[wise verge]

Complaining about it won’t change a damn thing even if you do it everyday

[craggy ocean]

The only time I’d use ID is in person

[craggy ocean]

Watch them change it

They can’t just steal people’s information

[hidden knoll]

@wise verge @craggy ocean

r yall 15? i need friends around my age

[wise verge]

They won’t, you hold absolutely no power over it

[hidden knoll]

im 15 too

[craggy ocean]

I’m not 15 no

[wise verge]

I’m almost 20, lovely sorry

[spice fern]

Change comes about when people speak up so they sort of have power

[wise verge]

Not on those subjects though, security takes over everything

[craggy ocean]

Yeah I hope these governments realise that ID age verification is actually really unsafe

And I hope you haven’t given your ID, for safety reasons

That’s my main concern

On paper, it’s fine. But this is the internet we’re talking about

[spice fern]

Just like someone can make a new email they can find a plug for a fake ID tho I'd like to think People won't stoop that low

[craggy ocean]

It’s not exactly a good place to be uploading an ID to a random company

[wise verge]

And fake IDs put you in so much deep shit that it’s better to just do nothing

[wise verge]

Persona is a company with bank security level trusted by many companies including twitter

[craggy ocean]

I’ve read about things regarding persona

[spice fern]

Yes it is I absolutely agree...ydk what they'll do with it after you get verified...what if their database gets hacked what then they'll say oops sorry someone stole your data

[craggy ocean]

Especially about how Roblox uses them too, not exactly reliable

[craggy ocean]

Didn’t discord get a data leak recently

[craggy ocean]

Also they lied about how long they keep your data for

[spice fern]

Would you look at this thats despicable

[wise verge]

What did you read then?

[craggy ocean]

Yeah they’re under a lot of controversy

[wise verge]

Like what? Show me sources

Because last I checked they have no shit on them except a trial regarding their terms of services where they didn’t disclose what they did with infos and was settled earlier this month

[craggy ocean]

Still, keeping information that’s supposed to be private and not kept is a bit shady

[wise verge]

Y’all are so dramatic and misinformed it’s almost funny

They keep it a week max and then delete it, do researches

[craggy ocean]

We’re not dramatic. It’s just you do realise the internet isn’t the best place to upload an ID

It wasn’t designed for that purpose

[cobalt walrus]

Can't some people understand that cAI has to follow the law? If they don't, then it's bye bye to cAI servers forever and no one wants that. I've got my private information leaked multiple times but I don't care since I'm used to it (and it's a national meme in a way because cyber security is absolutely dog water).

[brittle quest]

Astral you have so much patience on this topic every damn time

[wise verge]

I’m losing it and having gray hairs

[craggy ocean]

If your data gets leaked, well I told you all.

I’m just saying.

[brittle quest]

I'm so sorry ;;
But know that I respect you so much omg

[wise verge]

You data is sold everyday to millions of companies already

[cobalt walrus]

I've sent my ID to google (or youtube) back then when I could be referred as an adult. I've done it and did anything bad happened? No, besides the spam mails and calls but that's how it is.

[tough flame]

Why is ID and verification even talked about in this channel? Isn’t this the place to write and talk about Cai (like chats, problems and so on?). ID and all of that sounds more like a general chat thing

[wise verge]

That’s what I’m saying, I did that two years ago to verify my gmail, yt and twitter account and nothing happened fr

[wise verge]

Because people can’t seem to grasp that apparently and come whining at every hour about it

[wise verge]

Thank you friend, doing the devil’s job fr x)

[rustic pecan]

It’s about CAI doing age verification and restricting minors, so it IS on-topic. Mods have never redirected since it’s related.

[brittle quest]

You're the best

[wise verge]

Hopefully the verification goes faster because I am tired

[cobalt hull]

Not to complain or anything, and sorry if it comes out like I am. I just didn’t know about the announcement. But I agree that some people need to get a grip on this and are fully right to have their own opinions but it won’t do any good by throwing out every chance you get.

[wise verge]

Thank you, finally someone rational. People can have their opinions if it’s constructive. Half the time they’re misinformed on Persona or whining about getting flagged

[cobalt walrus]

Having your private information is not that bad when there's an article about how the private informations of more than 45 millions of French citizens were leaked due to a crappy cloud system.

[tough flame]

Alright, gotcha 👌🏼 It just seems like a endless discussion lol

[cobalt hull]

I mean sure I don’t like it but like what can I do? Nothing but accept it

[rustic pecan]

They did not omfgggggg

[rustic pecan]

It IS an endless discussion but it’s on-topic.

[raw mirage]

^

[cobalt hull]

Fair

[cobalt walrus]

I love the cyber security of my country, this is something that we're used to since literal years. It's not new.

[rustic pecan]

I’m sorry if I came off mean earlier! Tone is hard.

[raw mirage]

Thats what i hate about most people making feedback because its not actually feedback its just "ive been misinformed and dont like it" or "i just dont like it"

[rustic pecan]

And they don’t know how to read lawsuits

[cobalt walrus]

But what's new is the fact that there's that many people whose private information got leaked. It's like a good three quarters of the country I live in, and I may be a victim of this but whatever, I'm used to it since years

[cobalt hull]

It’s ok! I always had a problem with tone in text, which is why I change my tone so much😭

But it’s ok really

[wise verge]

Right, most feedbacks are infuriating and drown the actually useful ones

[wise verge]

Most don’t read it tbh

[tawdry birch]

oh how convenient that we're talking about this rn!!!

hi! i was in here over a week ago asking about unsolvable issues i was having with the age verification! i decided that, since the issue was saying that "something wasn't matching up with the records", i would just wait for a little over a week (which is how long they say they keep your stuff for) so that my data would be deleted and there wouldn't be any records for my id to "not match up with".

well, guess what i just tried to do. and guess what didn't work. and guess what it told me the reason was.

[compact tartan]

Ur good dw

[cobalt walrus]

At least, I know that when there's a law, then the government has to follow it otherwise it could face consequences.

[raw mirage]

Like i understand if you dont like it but just saying "i dont like it" is not feedback thats complaining

[spice fern]

👀 because it was already deleted out of their database ?

[raw mirage]

Thats probably because you did it so many times but from what im hearing your going off personal experience, and you should never do that in an argument.

[tawdry birch]

nope, because the "records didn't match up". it's because they KEPT my data longer than they were supposed to.

[rustic pecan]

It’s interesting persona supposedly suddenly has data issues when used on CAI lmao

[cobalt hull]

Or it was just the same bc nothing changed?

[spice fern]

Clearly my comprehension skills were off I apologize....but damn thats not cool

[raw mirage]

Anything has issues if it fits the narrative

[compact tartan]

What happened

[cobalt hull]

Honestly I lost track of that

[cobalt walrus]

The subject of the age verification, again.

[wise verge]

Same old, someone complaining

[raw mirage]

Ig the age verification talk AGAIN

[dreamy raven]

it's normal that i haven't got the age verification?

[tawdry birch]

????? the "personal experience" in question being that something people are saying isn't working……… didn't work for me. and i'm just confirming it. okay.

[spice fern]

I never got it either other then them asking for the birthday thing way back

[craggy ocean]

It’s funny because sometimes the face scan works and then redirects you to ID verification as if they want you to give more information

[compact tartan]

I know it's age verification discussion I was confused cause someone said their data was kept for longer than supposed to

sorry i shoudlve said that mb

[cobalt hull]

Isn’t there like a photo option?

I saw smth abt that

[craggy ocean]

Yeah, there is but it asks for ID after every time I try

[raw mirage]

Do you.. Not know how to debate..? Pretty sure its the number one rule not to bring up your own experiences but use factual statements instead

[carmine lotus]

A selfie, yeah. And nobody that’s an adult that I know of has had issues with it 😭🙏🏻

[rustic pecan]

It’s quite amazing really lol. They have no leaks, no breaches, no security issues. They settled a lawsuit and became more open and honest about data retention. But now suddenly there are issues I haven’t seen online before.

[wise verge]

Victim mentality at its best, useless to debate with them

[wise verge]

Maybe we’re not in in the collective hallucination of it

[compact tartan]

For debating it should be using evidence and reasoning, along with attacking the points, not the person, so if people want to debate it should be factual stuff

[raw mirage]

I did debate all of middle school and most of highschool so about 4 years and something my debate teacher told me to never do is go off of rough guesses or personal experience because then it basically invalides your whole argument

[compact tartan]

i do not do debate but my english class just did a unit on it

[wise verge]

Yep it does. One experience doesn’t make the majority but some don’t understand that

[compact tartan]

Yeah

[cobalt hull]

Ah

[rustic pecan]

Liiiike I get being wary. I do. It’s fair and understandable. But a lot of the stories feel like fear mongering and being mad.

[compact tartan]

general 2 has been dead

[compact tartan]

yeah

[cobalt hull]

Well years are going by pretty fast and I turn 17 this years so maybe I’ll be verified before I know it

[raw mirage]

It honestly baffles me that some people can argue/debate and not know anything of what they are debating but again i couldnt do it, because then if somebody calls me out on my bull and im wrong then im embarrassed asf

[wise verge]

Most are just people wanting to raise rumours and shits in hope that they remove the age verification which will never happen

[cobalt hull]

Just trying to stay positive ig

[craggy ocean]

Yeah what if people find out how unsafe it is and ID verification is stopped

[wise verge]

Enjoy the great outdoors as much as you can!

[tawdry birch]

i promise you it's not that serious. i mentioned what just happened to me because it SUPPORTS the point someone else was making. i know how to debate, but that's never what i was doing lmao.

[craggy ocean]

Just saying.

[compact tartan]

Even I who does not like the update can admit that the update isn't planned to be removed, as stated on c.ai's official website posts

[cobalt hull]

My medical condition hardly allows it but I still do it anyways

[wise verge]

It won’t because it’s not unsafe, god do researches

[rustic pecan]

This is literally what I was thinking lmao

[raw mirage]

So your supporting a point somebody else is making knowing that point is wrong or not a most case scenario?

[ancient storm]

Ah, the usual new update drama

[tender grove]

😯😯😯

[wise verge]

I’m sorry to hear that, lovely. I don’t want to come off as ignorant, enjoy things you like then

[spice fern]

They were supporting their point with a personal example

[craggy ocean]

Okay, so if someone walked up to you on the street. Asked you to show them your phone. You’d do it.

[cobalt walrus]

Some people are way too stubborn to not understand such things, unfortunately. Welp, that's their problem, not mine

[rustic pecan]

This is a false equivalency

[cobalt hull]

I will, and being outside in the rain is one of them❤️

[raw mirage]

Okay but im confused. Why support a point when its wrong?

[wise verge]

What are you even talking about…?

[craggy ocean]

You can’t trust companies that lie, you can’t trust them with your information

[compact tartan]

sounds fun !

[cobalt hull]

No?

[craggy ocean]

I’m implying if you did try to, they’d steal it.

[tender grove]

then don't use the app

[craggy ocean]

Like how they’re stealing the information of users

[cobalt hull]

I play Mitski and c.a.s each time

[compact tartan]

No I would not

[tender grove]

if you dislike they app don't use it, it isn't going to change

[compact tartan]

EYYY another mitski fan i lvoe her music

[verbal heart]

This is a crazy argument, pathos is a key portion of almost every argument, including most legal ones. If you base an argument on a personal example and that's it, it's a weak argument, but it's still a debateable point.

[raw mirage]

MA'AM please tell me you are not comparing a random stranger on the street to a whole company that has been around for 8 years??

[wise verge]

You make such a dumb point it’s baffling. One is a law, the other you tried to expose is a hypothetical situation

[cobalt walrus]

At one moment, everybody has their private information leaked, no matter what they use as a website or app. And it's like that.

[spice fern]

Because it's kinda evidence that the point may all the way be wrong

[zenith nimbus]

prick

[compact tartan]

I feel like the difference between hypothetically showing someone your phone on the street compared to verifying your age is wildly different

[tender grove]

I AM NOT

[cobalt hull]

I feel even the safest organization has had info leaked at least once. It’s because normal and common now

[rustic pecan]

Persona Industries is a vetted and certified company. I can research them and make a choice based on my research. Why tf would i show a stranger my phone? That’s not same thing AT ALL

[raw mirage]

It is

[tawdry birch]

???? WHAT is this logic you're using broroni. i saw someone say something wasn't working, came in here to just say "yeah it didn't work for me so this sounds about right" and now suddenly it's this. i just got here bro. i'm not here to debate i just saw someone say something that was accurate to something that just happened to me and responded by saying so.

[cobalt hull]

So why is it a big deal now

[tender grove]

prick

[zenith nimbus]

NUH UH

[cobalt walrus]

Like, three quarters of the French population has got their private information leaked due to a crappy cloud system. Amazing

[tender grove]

PRICK

[cobalt walrus]

I'm probably a victim of this massive leak but I'm used to it so yeah.

[craggy ocean]

You are trusting a person with something valuable to you (Your Phone) and then trusting a company with your valuable information (ID)

[wise verge]

I am one of them fr, nothing happened lmao. Still doing fine x)

[zenith nimbus]

prick prock

[raw mirage]

The point im seeing being made is persona isnt safe🤷🏻‍♀️

[tender grove]

theres drama lothie watch 😯

[craggy ocean]

It’s the same, you don’t know that person. You don’t know what they plan to do with it.

[rich stream]

Burps

[wise verge]

Your point is so dumb, stop arguing. One is a CERTIFIED company, the other is a STRANGER

[tender grove]

boo!

[cobalt hull]

Few word. Banks. Hospitals. LITERALLY ANY ORGANIZATION EVER

[cobalt walrus]

Got my private information leaked multiple times, even to the point of seeing gmail telling me that there's some of it on the dark web

[ancient storm]

-# Don't mind, just enjoying the arguments

[craggy ocean]

Yes but that’s reputable and can’t be leaked. Because it’s not on the internet

[zenith nimbus]

oh i just saw you in this chat and decided to butt in to call you a prick, idk what is going on.

[compact tartan]

hey

[raw mirage]

Look at the government website, they have multiple instances that they got breached. Nobody seemed to care then.

[ancient storm]

Yooo

[craggy ocean]

The internet can be hacked or data can be stolen or leaked or stored.

[tender grove]

LMFAO they fighting over age verification thing, they can't get over it

[wise verge]

Hospital and banks get hacked and leaked

[rustic pecan]

Did you know that persona has bank grade security?

[tawdry birch]

i'm not saying persona isn't safe. i saw someone say persona was doing a sketchy thing that lined up with a sketchy thing that persona just did to me and mentioned it. you are digging wayyy too deep into this.

[cobalt hull]

Exactly.

[craggy ocean]

There’s a difference.

[compact tartan]

trusted by many businesses too

[tender grove]

@zenith nimbus