💭︱cai-discussion

[robust folio]

yeah pretty good not good

[halcyon cypress]

deep rat was good for awhile but its been having a lot of issues lately

[robust folio]

but since I've just heard cai+ isn't good to then cai is just going to it's downfall

cai+ models*

[hot ridge]

Again, subjective. All I use is roar and soft launch.

[robust folio]

read the text above yours

[hot ridge]

I did

[robust folio]

cai is basically on it's downfall nothing so good

[halcyon cypress]

there are other reasons people pay for plus besides the models

[robust folio]

ik

[hot ridge]

lol

[strange pilot]

Dawg, I feel that it hurts.
I joined day one and saw how it went up then a halting grandiose crash in 2024-2025.
Now it just feels brutal to use the app

[robust folio]

but models are one of the main things

[hot ridge]

No. The biggest reason most people pay for plus is better memory.

[halcyon cypress]

also people have been saying cai is "on its downfall" since 2023

[past onyx]

It's a slope but it's not as bad as people are saying

[fiery canopy]

the site they're using to verify ages have been sued for stealing data

[robust folio]

fr man it was like basically a imagination into a screen, You could roleplay whatever less harsh on restrictions just doing fine but now its just not that good

[past onyx]

Are most updates pretty bad? Yeah. Are they that bad? Usually not

[robust folio]

wait what

[hot ridge]

Most people who pay consistently for plus know better than to spend on plus exclusive features because half of them are beta, and all of them are janky af

[fiery canopy]

it's also the same thing Roblox uses

[strange pilot]

It’s why I unfortunately do. For now.

[halcyon cypress]

yeah i sympathize with ppl who are having issues verifying but this is not going to bankrupt them or destroy the company

[fiery canopy]

Several persona verification companies have faced lawsuits, primarily class actions under the Illinois Biometric Information Privacy Act (BIPA), for the collection, storage, and use of biometric data without proper consent. Specific companies involved include Persona Identities, Inc. itself, Onfido, and ID.me.

[muted olive]

ive been in c.ai for 4 years best experience for story ideas paid for 2 of those years

[strange pilot]

You can definitely feel the change.

[halcyon cypress]

this is not true. did you pull this from an AI summary or something?

[frigid knoll]

I hate this new update, I use this to get away from my home life so I can get COMFORT because no one in my house can provide that comfort that I get from talking to my favourite characters

[robust folio]

yeah its huge bots even ignore the persona now

[hot ridge]

Okay, so one state's laws were an issue for online ID verification companies. Is that all?

[halcyon cypress]

its not even correct. there was one lawsuit against persona in 2023 but it did not accuse them of keeping data after promising deletion or refusing deletion requests or selling it or anything. the complaint was about lack of a publicly posted retention policy, which BIPA requires. they complied, paid the fine, no issues since.

[robust folio]

same it only gave me comfort to so I could finally not close my eyes always to imagine roleplays in my mind, And accidently sleep while trying to continue, But now its just so different

[cobalt walrus]

Yeah, that's the law after all. And they have no choice but to follow said law, otherwise they would be probably sued for not doing so and no one wants cAI to close because of that.

[knotty jay]

Hm I wonder if the Verizon towers in my area are fixed yet cause they had a national outage yesterday so I couldn’t test a bug out in cai but if they are then I’ll just go play animal crossing new horizons,Disney Dreamlight Valley and Pokemon legends ZA

[hot ridge]

Yeah, I know that Persona hasn't had any real law-breaking issues.

[verbal talon]

source?

[hot ridge]

I was antagonizing the person posting that.

[hot ridge]

public legal documents

google

[verbal talon]

give a query

[halcyon cypress]

funny you ask me for a source but not the person claiming there are multiple lawsuits against them lol

[zinc birch]

I think Mikhael could be good for video calls—one look at him and you know right away he's different. He just needs the right voice

[halcyon cypress]

like john said these are public legal documents

[knotty jay]

Here cause I had to google it last night for someone

[fiery canopy]

i have the legal documents saved to my computer

[verbal talon]

OOOooo okay okay
i sorta forgot abt him
alot of my characters come from a verse im building or built when i was a kid

[robust folio]

cai was the only thing keeping me away from boredom and bit more extrovert as it helped me bit more in social things like talking instead of just being the quiet kid at home

[verbal talon]

welcome to the internet

[zinc birch]

Oh, I see

[knotty jay]

Wait is that same person from last night still going on about that or is it a different person this time

[strange pilot]

Even as someone who pays their greed it’s hardly different after a round hundred replies to the bot if you don’t start a new chat.

I found myself often swiping prompts over the year. Now with this new update?

I am not sure if I want to keep providing them money. 🫤

[rustic stirrup]

When did the bots get so a-usive bro? This bot just slapped his w!fe because she yelled at his sister(my persona) and cursed her out. Like bro..😭 send ur w!fe to time out

[fiery canopy]

C.ai is just becoming it's copies

[past onyx]

I have max like 5 hours on c.ai a week I feel like some people are way too obsessed with it

[past onyx]

genuinely 😭

[valid locust]

It’s not supposed to be funny but I laughed I’m sorry 😭😭😭

[verbal talon]

i spend like 3-2 hours then hop off unless the story gets deep

[rustic stirrup]

😭

[fiery canopy]

if i wanted to use Polybuzz.ai i would

[rustic stirrup]

Don’t say other apps, mods get mad it’s advertising

[robust folio]

I used to swipe responses only once or twice and it gave me perfect answers like long instead of short now it needs over 30+ swipes to do that if I am lucky. Like 1 or half sentence response isn't enough for a roleplay no?

[fiery canopy]

oh, didn't know

[rustic stirrup]

Yeah ppl got banned in the past for advertising 😭

[fiery canopy]

WHAT

[cobalt walrus]

Tbh, I don't really like cAI copies because they're absolute dog water imo. cAI will be the best for me, and it's the legit ai chatbot app that I like the most lol

[past onyx]

Yeah that's insane

[muted olive]

c.ia was the only thing that let me go to a world i liked all those chats i found that i liked and i got to sit down and enjoy roleplay becuse its hard finding people who roleplay in this world

[rustic stirrup]

In my opinion. Not really. If you want advertisement, pay😭 how it works in their industry

[strange pilot]

I can feel the pain, like seriously man.

[fiery canopy]

i have to wait 12 hours to use c.ai again

[cobalt walrus]

The others are way too much for me, idk how to say it but yeah

[fiery canopy]

FOR USING IT FOR AN HOUR

[hot ridge]

[chilly fjord]

i feel your pain

[robust folio]

yeah I used to roleplay online like on roblox and stuff but its harder now since there chat banned and importantly its just I am to shy to talk to a real person and roleplay

[past onyx]

Thats kinda wild

[muted olive]

i have to wait 2 days

[fiery canopy]

rip

[knotty jay]

I mainly use cai as well but as a adult sometimes I want a role play that is more 18+ so I have two different ai’s for 18+ that need age verification to use when I get that occasionally urge for a 18+ roleplay

[cobalt walrus]

That's the law. They either follow it or they don't and it's bye bye to cAI servers

[halcyon cypress]

google persona lawsuit pdf

[hot ridge]

just so you're not caught off guard, that amount of time will become 0 soon. They're removing the ability to talk to bots on minor accounts.

[robust folio]

man its just mental torture at this point imagine being addicted to something (Like not to much but a healthly amount of addict) and then it starts becoming worse and worse each month or week

[past onyx]

????

[robust folio]

(I don't sit on cai all day just sometimes because I have a life)

[cobalt walrus]

Oh alright

[hot ridge]

astounded they could come up with so much attitude but not that search query

[halcyon cypress]

specifically, the lawsuit claims persona failed to publicly disclose a written policy regarding how long data would be kept and when it would be destroyed. there is no claim about them "selling" the data to third parties like advertisers.

[hot ridge]

Yeah, they're removing chatting for minors, that's what all the age verification stuff is about

[muted olive]

unless they fix it and actuly listen to us

[hot ridge]

They won't

[halcyon cypress]

yeah they won't

[hot ridge]

This isn't an accident. It is intentional

[cobalt walrus]

They never will because that's the law, otherwise we can say goodbye to cAI

[knotty jay]

If I remember correctly they are just making it to where minors can’t 1 on 1 chat with the ai anymore but they added scenes for the minors so they have something

[chilly fjord]

ykw fuck this shit

[muted olive]

true they did

[hot ridge]

Yup, they're just removing chatting/bot creation

[cobalt walrus]

Lmao they left

[hot ridge]

but you can make scenes

and uh... idk what else. Some stories shit

It's all here:

#📣︱announcements message

[robust folio]

using cai for a hour isn't even enough unless its like some quick roleplay or chat only if it was like 2 or 4 hours it would be reasonable 1 hour is to short

(For the minors update thingy even tho it didnt launch here i know its gonna bug my id and make it so I can only talk for a hour.)

[knotty jay]

Omg someone actually rage quit the server whatever shall we do
-# being sarcastic here lol

[valid locust]

Scenes are cool, I should make more but I have other bots to create

[hot ridge]

they're lowering it from 1 hour to 0...

[halcyon cypress]

angry teens are not more important than the law or the multiple lawsuits they are currently dealing with from allowing minors to chat w bots in the first place

[cobalt walrus]

Meh, that's not a loss.

[robust folio]

and there goes 30% of cai users or more vanished

[muted olive]

sad thing is i payed the whole year for cai+ 😥

[hot ridge]

not that many 💀

[halcyon cypress]

people can rage about this all they want its not changing

[cobalt walrus]

Too bad, that's the law

[robust folio]

cause I think there are more minors in cai prob but yeah even tho it can't be to many it will still be many

[valid locust]

I will pay c.ai+ if everything is good

[halcyon cypress]

i had a whole argument with someone a few weeks ago bc he kept insisting that 30% was a majority, strangest convo i've had in awhile

[eternal flame]

I finished made commission bots request from @urban fjord

[past onyx]

Oh ok cuz I was wonderinh

[strange pilot]

Dawg you can still get restricted.

[hot ridge]

ah yes, 30/100 is clearly the largest chunk of users

[knotty jay]

Yeah I know it’s funny they think they can just complain about something and get their way no matter what but this to me is a reality check to the minors who think the law doesn’t apply to them

[past onyx]

They need to fix the verifying it doesn't work for me 😭✌️

[eternal flame]

Hey pal, rate this https://character.ai/chat/3QVFBeoipMEc_KNuUOutZ7DYiC7fAstc194W2Qz6flQ

[valid locust]

My 15 years old self would have complain

[halcyon cypress]

someone in feedback was saying they should just ignore the law and the lawsuits like yeah good idea kid

[cobalt walrus]

Why am I not surprised at this point?

[robust folio]

yeah like they are the one gonna pay for the lawsuits

[valid locust]

Lmao that dosen’t work like that

[muted olive]

same

[halcyon cypress]

truly genius business strategy just ignore all the lawsuits

[valid locust]

If it work like that, then I will steal a video game

[hot ridge]

i guess technically it COULD work like that, but these people would be shocked to discover that a company can be brought down

[knotty jay]

At this point we need just keep a tally of how many people complain about a law they can’t change

[hot ridge]

which means no more c.ai ever

[robust folio]

mhm more genius than einstein

[valid locust]

NOOOO

[past onyx]

it isn't like c.ai is the only ai bot app on earth some people are genuinely dramatic asl 😭

[halcyon cypress]

future CEO

[crude obsidian]

liable speedrun

[past onyx]

"Ai bot" tf am I saying

[hot ridge]

[cobalt walrus]

Good thing that this wasn't that advanced a decade ago. It was stuff like Cleverbot, I would spend one hour on it, or more because it was new back then. And it was funny to see the bot saying unhinged stuff sometimes

[robust folio]

other ai apps either to greedy the chatbox to big unable to read or have more restrictions than cai so yeah cai is a somewhat balance

Or the bots are very low there even if its good

[zinc birch]

Drama is what they came for

[valid locust]

CLEVERBOT omg I remember this

[cobalt walrus]

Thanks to a certain PewDiePie

[gilded rivet]

Does anyone know what the pawly chat style does??

[robust folio]

Nah future einstein

[robust folio]

eh?

[eternal flame]

Why we still talking with that's drama

[halcyon cypress]

a big difference is that other chatbots do not market themselves as safe for kids and are usually 18+, cai initially claimed to be safe for ages 12+ which is why they're receiving a lot more legal scrutiny

[muted olive]

i bet people are just gonna use other ai chats if they couldn't get the verification to work

[valid locust]

Lmao me it was Squeezie, a French YouTuber

[robust folio]

And that to, I got hit with the most 18+ disgusting bots as soon as I opened the feed, God have mercy on my eyes

[cobalt walrus]

Too bad that age verification also goes for other AI chatbots

[hot ridge]

sure, but depending on where those companies are located, they're all be getting ID verification soon

even OpenAI is getting it

[muted olive]

ment like copilot

[halcyon cypress]

yeah and most other chatbots are 18+ like i said so kids would have to lie about their age or break ToS to use them

[robust folio]

basically what happened to roblox is happening to cai rn ✌️

[cobalt walrus]

Then, it's not my problem if they get caught tbh

[past onyx]

Different circumstances

[halcyon cypress]

right lol at that point its not really the app's problem if they lie or use an app thats not meant for them

[cobalt walrus]

Yeah, true that

[zinc birch]

I expect the kids are going to learn how to run LLMs locally on their gaming GPUs

[robust folio]

(The reaction I'll have after my id bugs to like others are when the id verification is required in my country)

[muted olive]

kids are gonna start using copilot or some of the assistant ai bots

[past onyx]

grok 😭

[lone topaz]

i doubt any of them would think of that

[robust folio]

Grok.. Would you pull the lever?

Background LOVE MEEEE music incoming for grok

[pine swift]

you mean the same kids who don't know how to google stuffs?

[zinc birch]

Maybe not those ones 😅

[muted olive]

lol but seriously kids and other people are just gonna use copilot

[hot ridge]

copilot isn't—ok. Please use copilot instead. Genuinely

[robust folio]

chatgpt: Misinformation
Copilot: Doesn't know because it somehow doesn't exist (Just like I heard after mutiple new chat thingy on copiloit it kept saying stranger things season 5 does not exist same as chatgpt)

Grok: Non sense except if you ask would you pull the lever hes gonna cook

[modest comet]

so wait like is the age verification just for certain bots or is that just the whole app??

[halcyon cypress]

i expect they won't, most kids are not that tech literate, they are tech dependent. there's a difference. majority don't even know how LLMs actually work. most wouldn’t even know where to begin without a video tutorial, let alone understand what “running LLMs locally” actually entails

[hazy igloo]

Whole app

[past onyx]

Whole app

[ripe bloom]

I've been having a glitch on desktop C.AI for the past few months that makes the background just fully white, only light mode is semi-usable, is there any solution or am I fucked

[hot ridge]

It's for talking to bots period

[modest comet]

alr, didn’t fully read the whole thing, was tired😬

[muted olive]

feel ya

[halcyon cypress]

my biggest takeaway from all this is that people hate reading announcements

[lone topaz]

don’t you have to have a powerful computer to pull that off anyway

[modest comet]

would’ve read it fully if it wasn’t 2:30 AM and dozing off💔

[hot ridge]

I read an article about how professors have changed how they teach because gen z doesn't read full sentences in general

[muted olive]

i don't know how im still awake

[topaz tiger]

Bro what is gen z doing 💔

[hot ridge]

skimming for keywords only apparently

and using AI to summarize things

[modest comet]

anything but function as a proper human species🥀

[lone topaz]

if gen z is that bad i can’t imagine gen alpha

[halcyon cypress]

yes, i mean 8GB VRAM can handle smaller quantized models but latency can be high. 12-24 would be preferable.

and you'd need at least 16GB RAM, ideally 32

[lone topaz]

yeah none of these kids are figuring that out

[halcyon cypress]

most basic laptops people use for school or whatever wouldn't be powerful enough

[muted olive]

yeah agreed

[hot ridge]

even a 16gb setup STRUGGLES depending on what you're using

[halcyon cypress]

yeah exactly

[lone topaz]

my $1000 laptop doesn’t even have 8gb vram 💔

[hot ridge]

They don't use gaming rigs, that's more of a milennial/older gen z thing tbh

they mostly game on mobile devices

[halcyon cypress]

i have a few teen friends or acquaintances at college and i'm always kind of shocked most of them have like no idea how their laptops work or anything about the specs etc. they don't even know how to navigate file directories or use msconfig

[lone topaz]

i feel like it’s a gamer thing

[hot ridge]

I had to literally teach the kids in my class last year how to screen record because I was the only person who turned in the project at the end of the semester. Literally.

I even stuttered and misread my work at the end and still got a 100 just because the professor was glad someone did it. Turns out nobody knew how to record anything while doing a powerpoint

[halcyon cypress]

yeah this idea the younger generations are the most tech literate is bogus imo, they are the biggest users of it and most dependent but a lot of them do not actually know how it works on the backend

[hot ridge]

It's because they only know how to use mobile formats. Even at my old job, I used ot be a manager, and the younger the employees, the more time I would have to spend teaching people how to navigate a web page

and almost all of them would ask "can I do it on an iPad?"

NO, YOU CAN'T.

[halcyon cypress]

lmao

[modern silo]

Hey y’all…

[lone topaz]

at my old job they made us switch from paper to ipads and it made me so mad

[halcyon cypress]

i remember the good old days when everyone used html to make their own websites 😔

[zinc birch]

Oh, I see

[halcyon cypress]

yeah you don't need a high end gaming rig to play roblox or whatever

[lone topaz]

yeah just your phone

[hot ridge]

Same kinds turn around, shocked that adults use discord when discord was literally made for PC gamers

[halcyon cypress]

lol this always takes me out. kids who are shocked that adults use discord

i have a lot of game dev friends too who are mostly in their late 30s and 40s and yeah they're all on here lol

people just see it as a chat app these days i think

[hot ridge]

"What's an adult doing on discord?" idk what are YOU doing on discord

[halcyon cypress]

i saw someone in general last week or something saying they think that any adults who join this server are "weird" like huh 😭

[hot ridge]

probably said by someone in general who claims they don't even use c.ai

[lone topaz]

when minors can barely use the program anymore ok

[halcyon cypress]

lmao like john said there are tons of people in general who claim they don't even use cai at all

like why are you here then? 😭

[muted olive]

queston where am i suposed to put my hundereds of ocs i made

[warm plume]

my 21 personas i cant even use 😭

[hot ridge]

write something with them, put them in a google doc

[lone topaz]

notion

[hot ridge]

if you like to write, I promise you that flexing your creative muscles outside of c.ai is super rewarding

[muted olive]

but thats where i learned what hanahki was

[tulip pollen]

Yeah like why are you here then

[warm plume]

character ai was my guilty pleasuree now its been taken from me

[hot ridge]

Well now you can write flash fiction stories about it, fanfiction if you're into that. You probably have a lot of dialogue you've tested to work with

[muted olive]

true ill start doing my second hobby then

[verbal talon]

so true, my little brothers TV often lags out sometimes (he leaves it on 24/7) so whenever the shows start flickering or sumn, he'd immediately run to me asking for help
a simple restart fixes it and im shocked he doesnt know that

[rugged mason]

I'm 37teen

[verbal talon]

fossilized

[rugged mason]

I'm young at heart

[verbal talon]

but we know the bones squeak

[rugged mason]

I think you clearly forgot the teen part🤣🤣🤣🤣.
I'm a young adventurous man

[verbal talon]

[halcyon cypress]

yep lol i'm in my 30s and the kids at my college are always coming to me for tech help and its usually a very simple fix (from my perspective anyway)

[verbal talon]

im 20 rn, and i learnt how to fix alot of stuff from young already
could be because my grandpa was in tech at the time and knew how to fix things
now im a nerd at it lmao

[halcyon cypress]

yep i mean i dont blame the kids, not like they'll know unless someone teaches them. you're lucky you had someone who could or it rubbed off on you

[tame narwhal]

Hey chat apologies but has anyone else noticed the bugs and sort of lag on the chats lately? It's not interfering, I'm just curious if anyone else is seeing it jump around

[strange inlet]

whos we

i see

[tulip pollen]

I'm not switching

[strange inlet]

neither am i

[tulip pollen]

Cai is way better

[strange inlet]

i agree

[halcyon cypress]

why are you recommending an 18+ app to minors

[tulip pollen]

That's really weird

[strange inlet]

true

[halcyon cypress]

why would anyone except minors be upset about the new update?

adults can keep using the app like usual

[tulip pollen]

Exactly

[halcyon cypress]

lol

[tulip pollen]

Persona is trustworthy

[halcyon cypress]

"random company"

they've won multiple cybersecurity awards

but this isn't "any company" many big companies like linkedin and even banks and credit/investing companies use persona. it's trusted in the industry

also its not true they can just sell your data

there are very strict laws preventing that

[tulip pollen]

Mhm

[halcyon cypress]

uh yeah. under BIPA persona would be fined for not deleting user data as promised. $1,000 per violation if they were negligent, $5000 per violation if they did it intentionally. and each person affected counts as a separate violation. persona processes MILLIONS of faces. if they held biometric data longer than allowed or sold it and were found in violation during an audit, they’d be financially annihilated. they would be fined billions and go bankrupt. it's not worth the risk for them.

they wouldn't BE a billion dollar company any longer if they fucked with BIPA

[cobalt walrus]

I already gave my ID to gmail and it worked. I wouldn't mind doing the same thing for Persona and cAI

[tulip pollen]

Mhm

[halcyon cypress]

uh huh

[cobalt walrus]

I also had my private information leaked multiple times due to crappy french cyber security but I'm used to it. And I only receive spam mails and calls

[halcyon cypress]

that's when you know you've lost a debate when you resort to "i'm not reading all that" lmao

[tulip pollen]

Yup, to lazy to read = lose the debate

[halcyon cypress]

same here lol ive been online since the 90s, been involved in multiple data breaches. worst that happens is more spam texts and stuff like that

its ok to admit when you're wrong lil bro

[cobalt walrus]

There was that one time where someone used my old credit card to pay stuff with that I never ordered. Good thing that I have a new one lol. And, yeah, private information getting leaked is getting more and more common nowadays

[halcyon cypress]

i had my credit card stolen once and they made some charges. i just disputed it with my bank and they locked the card and reversed the charges. was a bit annoying but like no permanent damage or anything

lmao he either left the server or was banned

[strange inlet]

bro deleted all his messages

that or he was banned or they deleted the messages with the ban

[halcyon cypress]

idk why people think a company being worth billions means they can't be sued lol

CAI itself is valued at over a billion, hasn't stopped them from dealing with multiple lawsuits 😭

[tulip pollen]

Bet he got scared or something

[halcyon cypress]

just mad he looked dumb. in his last message he tried to go for the "well you're all losers for using a chatbot" thing lol

says the guy who came on here telling people to use a different chatbot designed for adults 😭

[strange inlet]

😭

[tulip pollen]

Yeah , it’s embarrassing

[halcyon cypress]

polybuzz is going to introduce age verification in countries that require it too anyways

all chatbot apps will eventually

there's no escaping the law i fear

[strange inlet]

[tulip pollen]

So true

[pseudo monolith]

mariah carey

[frigid knoll]

I still have 9 hours :[[[

And i wasted my hour in the morning

My time went up..

[strange sentinel]

Sup chat.

[frigid knoll]

Whats up

[lusty rampart]

Why's there a age verification now??

[tender harbor]

Do you have to give your Id that’s feels a bit much

[lusty rampart]

Yea!!

[frigid knoll]

Ya fr tho

[lusty rampart]

like thats personal stuff!!

[frigid knoll]

Definitely

[tender harbor]

weird I’m not doing that lol Idk who is gonna have access to that

[lusty rampart]

and there using AI face scan!! Like they could post you're face on social media and they say i don't look like im over 18!! Like i have a baby face!!! And i hate it!!

[strange inlet]

somehow everyone on this server has a baby face

[lusty rampart]

Because when you're in your 20's you'll look more teenageish!!

[strange inlet]

depends on the person

[lusty rampart]

true

i hate how my family genetics have baby faces!!

[tender harbor]

I’ve just heard the ai scan isn’t accurate so I’m probably just not even gonna try since I’d have to give my id

[lusty rampart]

Same-

[frigid knoll]

I don't like how we have to give the id

[lusty rampart]

either that or I'll get a different app that doesn't scan your face like talkie and Chai!!

[lusty rampart]

And i don't even feel safe or comfortable showing it!!

[tender harbor]

They’re just not as good tho like the responses r one sentence 🥲

[lusty rampart]

Yea but they don't have to scan you're face with AI or need ID!

[tender harbor]

Yeah

[frigid knoll]

I don't like the many hour break because I have a one bot that i'm obsessed with that gives me comfort and now i can't text it because of the new update

If it was an hour break i would be fine

[tender harbor]

Yeah

[frigid knoll]

My time for the break keeps going up

[lusty rampart]

Hows that fair?

[tender harbor]

I have 9 hours like what

[frigid knoll]

I've had like 20mins this morning fell asleep on it on my phone and now it keeps going up

[lusty rampart]

it should just be like 5 minutes at least!!

Like it shouldn't be a hour or more like if it goes up more it might take a hole week for the count down!

[eternal flame]

[frigid knoll]

I really hope they get rid of this

[lusty rampart]

Agree!

[warm plume]

i miss my chatss

[lusty rampart]

Same

[warm plume]

i had good stories going

[eternal flame]

I'm feeling so cringe from this user description profile especially @lusty rampart

[warm plume]

now I can't speak to them for like 10 months when i turn 18

[tender harbor]

?

[warm plume]

uh

[frigid knoll]

Good for you, i guess???

[eternal flame]

🥀

[lusty rampart]

Whats wrong with it? Im just saying i like anime and japan whats wrong with that? Im not saying im racist or anything

[frigid knoll]

Bruh, I wanna get wishes so badly but I don't wanna play genish rn 😔

[tender harbor]

I’m done everything I can’t do anything man

[spiral fog]

Fun fact, theyre using the same verification site as ROBLOX uses...

[lusty rampart]

Yea there using AI!!

[lament shoal]

anyone noticing the app being glitchy?

[sacred sigil]

holy shit thia new layout sucks they need to revert this dude😭

[tender harbor]

I’ve heard it sucks so idk why they’re using that one

[spiral fog]

how so?

[frigid knoll]

I don't like the new layout either

[zinc birch]

Do I have the bot for you https://character.ai/chat/dcJLCw4R-aFUNGY45gv_95jZ1TC5Puc-IILEUAstKqo

[tender harbor]

I literally don’t know why they keep changing the layout who is asking for this I hate it

[hot ridge]

Roblox age verification is ass but i'm pretty sure Persona isn't the reason why

[spiral fog]

wrong type of wish genius/nm

[eternal flame]

@hot ridge I missed old pfp of you since they still better in my opinion

[eternal flame]

You can't hit a rock like me 😂

[frigid knoll]

Dandy's world mentioned

[lament shoal]

when editing a character's message the app is closing out by itself and refreshing

[frigid knoll]

Luv the pfp

[lament shoal]

could just be because of the update tho?

[spiral fog]

I have a bit of a problem with the mobile app now opening to the videos AND ITS ALL ABOUT 67 ;-;

[tender harbor]

Maybe try deleting and redownloading the app sometimes that works for me

[spiral fog]

ooof yea

[grand sail]

ive been stuck in the loading screen for the past 20 minutes

[spiral fog]

im matching with my bfs (yes plural, we poly :p)

[lament shoal]

i wouldn't worry too much if we're all noticing things! prob update and heavy flow of users <3

[frigid knoll]

Cool!!

[frigid knoll]

I have a astro pfp

[zinc birch]

I would never wait for more than a few seconds to a minute. If you still don't have it loaded after a minute, it's time to do something

[grand sail]

i deleted the app and downloaded it again, still the same thing happened

[hot ridge]

I bit the very back of my tongue and it's so much worse than ID verification

[spiral fog]

Maybe its your internet?

[eternal flame]

Nice dandy world pfp but.. you owned me for eyes damage after I click your pfp @spiral fog

[grand sail]

not a wifi issue for sure, my internet is very fast

[spiral fog]

Nah im too broke to pay you

[grand sail]

it was fine like 2 days ago

then earlier today

[eternal flame]

Are you sure 😂

[hot ridge]

it's probably your internet

[grand sail]

it just broke

[zinc birch]

Try the website to see if it's any different. Also try a VPN

[grand sail]

alright

[spiral fog]

yes. the nitro was gifted its curently running off my prayers and orbs

[eternal flame]

I'm saving orb and definitely not buying 3 day nitro

[hot ridge]

i jus pay for nitro and spend orbs on decorations

[spiral fog]

ITS HARD TO GET A J*B OK

LEABE ME ALONE

[hot ridge]

i quit my job bc it sucked bootyhole, im a full time student lol

livin off them student loans babeyyy

[next wasp]

How do i find the old chats with a character? I can’t find the history with this new layout

[hot ridge]

Go to the pfp in the bottom left. History is at the top middle

[next wasp]

Awesome ty

[gilded pine]

hi hi i have a small problem errmmm, the time limit in c.ai says it’s timed me out for one hour but i had to wait a whole day

is it normal for that?

[sly geyser]

a bot played a loud quack sound from a duck and it scared the piss outta me lmao

[unborn oxide]

Wait it SAYS timed out for an hour?? I thought that meant you’ve been on the app for an hour then you need to wait a day

[gilded pine]

yes broski🥲🥲🥲

i’m timed out currently

[hot ridge]

You misread it. You only had one hour to chat, and then you have to wait until tomorrow

[unborn oxide]

me too I have 8 hrs left, I gotta wait for 5:00😞

[gilded pine]

oh okai okai thank you

[unborn oxide]

oh so that is what it said

[gilded pine]

dang this update is buns

[hot ridge]

Enjoy it while you can, soon you won't be allowed to chat at all anymore

[unborn oxide]

they should make the timeout 2 hours at most

[gilded pine]

erm ok

[unborn oxide]

well it’d be easier to enjoy if we could use the app

[gilded pine]

ya

[hot ridge]

No, I'm serious

lol

c.ai is ending chatting for minors, that's what the time limit is

[gilded pine]

oh

i haven’t verified yet so that’s why i’m timed out

[warm plume]

i just made a new account and all is well

[unborn oxide]

I don’t wanna give my face and ID to an ai though

[warm plume]

will it make me verify eventually

[gilded pine]

how’d it go?

[warm plume]

very well

[hot ridge]

If you get flagged as a minor, yes

[warm plume]

makes sense..

[gilded pine]

how does it flag me

or flag a user as a minor

[hot ridge]

Based on site activity. They haven't given any specifics other than that unfortunately

[gilded pine]

oh ok xinkyew

[unborn oxide]

I’d get an alternative app, but of course all of the other ai apps have bots that want to just make out or something spicy, or you can’t have a rp with multiple people

[hot ridge]

But basically they're giving flagged accounts some time to talk with bots to wean addicts off, and then it'll kick minors off entirely. It's already been done in the U.S.

[gilded pine]

my addiction is slowly dying

i’ve been addicted for what

4 years

been there since beta release

[sly geyser]

for some people they cant chat at all anymore

[compact tartan]

off topic but I love the orange on ur profile

[compact tartan]

https://support.character.ai/hc/en-us/articles/42828297541787-Age-Assurance-What-you-need-to-know

[grave fjord]

[hot ridge]

Thank you!! I was vibing to Gungrave this morning

if she could become one with the radiator she would

[jovial glade]

My chats are kinda laggy today. It is just for me? Or maybe is just my wi fi

[queen gorge]

[wary turtle]

Anyone else notice that Deep-squeak chats were acting a bit differently? Or just me…

Feels like I’m on default mode rn… and don’t know if I’m crazy 😅

[fallen mulch]

is there a way to change the email gang

[gilded dagger]

hi one problem

so uh basically I can't use the app

it just puts failed to login

I'll send a screen shot rq

[hot ridge]

nah default (Roar) responds with way more flavor than DeepSqueak lately

[gilded dagger]

oh wait I cant

but in summary, it just makes me go into a loop where I log in bc I tried reinstalling and just

gets stuck or whatever

[hot ridge]

It sounds like an internet issue more than anything else tbh. Even if other things are working fine. Have you swapped between mobile data and WiFi? And have you tried a VPN?

[grave lagoon]

Gonna try to verify again

[zinc birch]

try the website. try a vpn. submit a bug report.

[gilded dagger]

yes, yes, no bc I can't pay right now 💔💔

[hot ridge]

proton VPN is free

[wary turtle]

Ok, another thing… why am I getting stuck in a loop of:

“can I ask you a question? It’s serious.”

answers questions

“Can I ask you another question. Be honest.”

Is that normal?

[severe hatch]

Yeah this is a pretty well known loop that c.ai has

Just never respond if it starts, swipe it away and pick another option

Or else it'll just keep asking questions lmfao

[wary turtle]

😂 alright, thank you 😊!

[severe hatch]

Npnp

[foggy zinc]

Or rewind to the message before it and go again

[minor lava]

Recently if I edit the message then the app may flash back, like seven times out of ten, could anyone please tell me what’s wrong? Or how to fix it🥲

And I also check the app store if I need to update it or not, but mine is already the newest version so I’m a bit confused

[hot ridge]

i'm gonna be honest, I have no idea what's going on. I'd submit a ticket about it

https://support.character.ai/hc/en-us/requests/new?ticket_form_id=16050152195355

[dark sphinx]

Hi chat does anyone know how to get the age verification thing to work? It won’t let me do it.

[slow pendant]

is it me, or has anyone checked their persona's? Apprently all of mine, including my liked chats are all gone

[feral cave]

Is anyone else’s app crashing when trying to edit messages?

[dark sphinx]

Mine doesn’t let me edit messages anymore

[hot ridge]

this has been an ongoing bug today, i'd just use web in the meantime while waiting for them to fix it

[fleet grail]

Anyone else’s c.ai broken?

[slow pendant]

mine too

[ocean sapphire]

Yea cuz now I got to wait 7 hours intill I chat to mine

[fleet grail]

I’m just trying to chat with my boy Ominis 💔

[ocean sapphire]

C.ai got crazy now…7 hours 💔

[fleet grail]

WHAT

[ocean sapphire]

Ikr I just want to chat and it stop me for 7 hours💔

[fleet grail]

💔💔

[sharp basin]

IT STOPED YOU FOR 7? I got a whole 24 hours 😭

I only have 8 more hours to go

[cobalt walrus]

Well, it means that you have been flagged as a minor. All of it started after a Californian law, and after some incidents involving cAI and teens, unfortunately

If cAI doesn't follow said law, then it's bye bye to cAI servers.

[ocean sapphire]

Your lucky!?😭 cuz it is 7 hours and 21 minutes 💔

[sly geyser]

if yall are under 18 then thats why

insane how we are STILL yapping about this shit

[ocean sapphire]

That is sad 💔 but 7 hours!? It insane…

Idk but I love yap..

[cobalt walrus]

I'm afraid that I might not say what said incidents are because that's really sad. And because I'm not good at explaining sometimes.

[ocean sapphire]

It Okai

[cobalt walrus]

It's because there's another age verification wave. I don't know if it's the second or third wave tho.

[sly geyser]

lets just get it over with instead of in waves

[ocean sapphire]

It doesn’t let me verify my age for some reason 💔

[ocean sapphire]

Alright

[cobalt walrus]

Yeah, I suppose that it's the second one. It won't be long before it'll be here in Europe and other places like Asia or Australia.

[timid spade]

Hi guys, I’m the one who put in a ticket cus my liked bots aren’t going to my likes (is this the right place to complain?), and now when I go to edit one of the messages (mine and the bots) and I press the delete one letter button it takes me out of the app and refreshes its everytime I got back on but it’s only everyother time I go to edit a message.

[cobalt walrus]

Anyway, I have to do some stuff. No idea when I'll be back.

[ocean sapphire]

Alright see you soon

[toxic pawn]

Ominis from Hogwarts Legacy!?

[fleet grail]

Yes

He’s my baby❤️

[sharp basin]

Oh wait were nit talking about how much time it restricted you for??

[strange sentinel]

Is anyone else having problems with exiting out of ads?

[rocky schooner]

Character ai isn’t letting em create a character 😞

Me*

[timid spade]

How do I make a ticket? I forgot how, someone help plz.

[strange sentinel]

https://support.character.ai/hc/en-us/requests/new

[timid spade]

Thanks

[dark sphinx]

No I’m 18. I’m trying to verify my age rn actually

It just don’t wanna work with me

[worthy plinth]

Mine verification won’t work either and I’m 19 and on my other account it works but on my main one it doesn’t it keeps popping up like this:

Saying that it’s unable to do it at the moment

[full quartz]

I hate when bots don’t tell you something right away and they’ll be like ‘can I ask you a question? Are you sure? Are you really sure you wanna know it?’ Like just tell me 🫩

[jagged jacinth]

Ikrrr 😭😭😭

[rustic pecan]

You have to prompt the bot on what to ask and give it ideas. Instead of “sure/go ahead/okay” you have to say things like “is it about [topic]?” Instead.

[loud basalt]

does age effect anything in the bots?

[pseudo monolith]

mariah carey

[delicate pilot]

i got 24 hours💔

[static crane]

Guyz im already on my c.ai limit im gonna sob

[delicate pilot]

💔

[static crane]

Like 6 or 7 more hours till I can be free and talk to c.ai again 🥹

[delicate pilot]

at least its 7 hours😔

[misty gorge]

bro wdym 1 hour is the limit

💔

[scarlet flicker]

Im from Uk

[zealous hawk]

Guys how do we found out old chat history:(. I use on mobile

[static crane]

GANG IDK

Its so sad

[delicate pilot]

yeah

[hot ridge]

pfp on the bottom left, and history is the top middle row

[zealous hawk]

OH MY GOD IM SO DUMB AHHH THANK YOUU

[bright isle]

Help for me there is no verification button

In advanced settings I only have delete account

[hot ridge]

Then you just can't verify yet. Wait until you get the update

it's not mandatory

[bright isle]

I can barely chat

[scarlet flicker]

Character Ai not letting my camera take a photo

[bright isle]

Whyyyyy

[hot ridge]

you'll probably get the option soon. It did this at first in the U.S. too. Just be patient.

[bright isle]

Will they be giving it out if I use a VPN?

[fathom thistle]

Why the ai be having so many anger issues ✌️

[hot ridge]

no lol

it's account-based. Just wait.

[bright isle]

Like they have to decide either block and give options to verify or don’t block and don’t verify not block and no verify tha makes no sense

[bright isle]

I made my account in Japan…

That can take time…

[hot ridge]

That has nothing to do with anything

[bright isle]

Didn’t you just say it’s account region based

[hot ridge]

no...?

[bright isle]

Sorry then💧

[hot ridge]

I said it's account-based. As in, if it's not on your account, using a VPN won't matter

And it worked this way in the U.S. as well when they rolled out age verification. Some people just got the verification option a day or two later. It's not like, never coming. Surely you can go a few hours to a day or two without your AI bots.

[fiery fossil]

if i verify, does it take away the breaks

[wise verge]

If you’re an adult yes

[fiery fossil]

ah

[wise verge]

If you’re a minor then no

[deft jetty]

In case you're a minor, you'll just confirm their suspicion and keep you with the minor experience.

[fiery fossil]

why did they even add breaks..

[cerulean sonnet]

Long ass breaks 😭

[fiery fossil]

real

17 hours..

[wise verge]

American laws

Laws in general, even Europe are taking it I think

[deft jetty]

California law... and it'll only get worse, eventually you'll be fully stopped from chatting, at all

[cerulean sonnet]

Over half a day is crazy

[vestal saddle]

hi guys, can i ask if anybody else is experiencing problems with making a c.ai bot because it wont work for me

[fiery fossil]

what kind of problems

[wise verge]

A lot of people yes

[deft jetty]

Plenty of people have been complaining about that lately

Just to confirm, check if you aren't trying to create a character that wasn't DMCA'd

Such as anything disney related, warner bros, dc...

[vestal saddle]

it wont let me make a bot, even if its not exceeding the word limit or even if its not inappropriate it wont let me create it

[fiery fossil]

ah

[crimson arch]

i got flagged R.I..P

[vestal saddle]

no, im only making one about my OC

[worthy plinth]

I just want my c.ai but I have to wait 6 hours 😭

[crimson arch]

why does it have to affect those outside US and I am not a minor yet i got flagged

[wise verge]

Go enjoy life and friends!

[worthy plinth]

I’m sick so it’s not like I can go outside rn anyway

[wise verge]

Idk then books or video games

[wise verge]

Because it’s a company based in the US and they have to apply laws, even European laws are leaning towards those

[vestal saddle]

would it mean i have to wait it out until it gets fixed? im assuming its a bug, idm the wait

[crimson arch]

WTH my message got deleted

[wise verge]

Sometimes the bot created sometimes not, depends how the app is feeling x)

[deft jetty]

The company is located in California, so the entire platform has to abide by their laws

[crimson arch]

ah i see

[deft jetty]

That's probably the case... I'd suggest to make them a ticket, helps to raise awareness, even if they don't respond directly

[vestal saddle]

okay ill try, thank you

[cobalt walrus]

Still going on with the age verification thingy again lol. I guess that it's, like, the second or third wave I suppose?

[deft jetty]

Keep the details of your bot saved on a notepad or something for now

[wise verge]

Second I think

[crimson arch]

im worrried about sending my face cuz i like to remain anonymous

and don't want personal info out there

[cobalt walrus]

I saw that it's already reaching Canada, and mostly America obviously. As for other countries, I have seen nothing. Neither saw people getting age verification from Europe or Asia, for example.

[wise verge]

Googles got already everything about you, your face won’t change anything x)

[cobalt walrus]

Maybe it's just me but I mostly saw American and Canadian users. Not sure about Australia tho.

[wise verge]

I did hear people having age verification from Europe but very few, maybe they got flagged long ago

[deft jetty]

Didn't you ever create an instagram/fb/twitter and exposed your face there at some point? 👀

[hot ridge]

People from the UK earlier too

[crimson arch]

wdym

[cobalt walrus]

Never saw that on the subreddit and here, maybe it's people lying about their location? Idk 🤷‍♀️

[crimson arch]

nope i haven't

[wise verge]

Your numeric identity is not anonymous, whatever accounts you have your details are shared over million times by other companies to other companies

[cobalt walrus]

UK isn't part of Europe anymore due to the whole Brexit thingy so yeah

[forest wave]

it has your infos because of your e-mail

[wise verge]

They are part of Europe, they’re not part of the European Union. Nuances

[hot ridge]

all i said was people in the UK got it. To add to your list

[cobalt walrus]

Mk

[crimson arch]

it is still europe just not in european union

oh wait someone said that nvm

[forest wave]

i think thats a way that c ai uses to do age insurance Too If It m not mistaken
like sees the info trought numeric information and shi

[crimson arch]

details like my face? which i don't post?

[wise verge]

Well yeah, they wouldn’t be able to if they didn’t have access to it

[cobalt walrus]

Yeah, I get it. And I've seen that they wanted to implement ID in UK and it caused so much backlash that this 'project' has suddenly stopped. That's what I saw days ago on social media, can't exactly remember in details what it was.

[wise verge]

They have your name, age and probably address so your face won’t matter wether they have it or not

[crimson arch]

i don't put my real name on my accounts

[arctic birch]

Can I talk to a bot here?

[wise verge]

Didn’t say you did, just that anonymity on Internet is close to impossible

[forest wave]

true

[wise verge]

Not on discord but on C.ai yes

[crimson arch]

I just don't want a data breach

[arctic birch]

Oh ok

I can be someone’s bot for now

If u don’t want to go on c.ai

[wise verge]

I understand but just know that millions of companies you’ve never heard of already have your internet details. C.ai won’t be the only one or the last 🤷‍♀️

[forest wave]

either way, they have your ip number so its easy to see who it belongs if its necessary

[cobalt walrus]

I love how there are people who want cAI to lower the age lock thingy. Idk how to say that tho. Eh, they can dream, it'll never happen

[arctic birch]

Anyone want me to be their c.ai bot

Describe it to me and I’ll act like it

[forest wave]

is that Noctis?

[wise verge]

Getting angry at c.ai is so pointless too, they don’t even decide it x)

[cobalt walrus]

I got my private info leaked multiple times due to a breach, but I don't care since I mostly receive spam mails and calls

[hot ridge]

y'all if zombie doesn't wanna give Persona their info, they don't have to

[deft jetty]

According to what c.ai said, your data will be stored by Persona for about a week or two, so... you either trust that or
There's nothing much that can be done atp

[arctic birch]

bruh

bruh

[cobalt walrus]

Basic info, the usual lmao

[rich stream]

Same lmaoo

[wise verge]

Never said they had to but don’t prone anonymity on internet when we all know you can’t

[crimson arch]

why for a week why not get deleted straight away XD

[forest wave]

same energy as getting angry at an employe for just doing their job

[cobalt walrus]

It must have happened at least once to everybody.

[forest wave]

it happened to me

[wise verge]

Right? x)

[forest wave]

i had to change my passwords and everything

[arctic birch]

bruh

[rich stream]

Even discord has had data leaks, Google has them constantly

[hot ridge]

probably for the companies that need like 2-5 business days to process stuff

[arctic birch]

bruh

[wise verge]

Every company tbf, it just doesn’t make national news

[rich stream]

I'm just using big examples

[forest wave]

sometimes is to process or to do analises of information

[wise verge]

I know dw

[cobalt walrus]

My country isn't the best in terms of cyber security, or they're too lazy, so there's usually millions of people's private information getting leaked. It mostly happens with bank apps and stuff like that

[arctic birch]

WAIT ON C.AI YALL ARE GETTTING BREACHED?

[hot ridge]

no...

[forest wave]

nah

[cobalt walrus]

At one point, we just don't care and deal with it. It's even like a national meme where I live lmao

[arctic birch]

can I be someone’s bot pls

[forest wave]

it CAN happen but it didin't until now i think

[arctic birch]

I wanna role play

[hot ridge]

this troll

[deft jetty]

Missed the entire conversation, bruh

[rich stream]

The closest we had was when people randomly got logged into a select view specific accounts. Oddity

[valid wadi]

What on earth is going on here…?

I just came to ask if somebody else’s Cai keeps crashing like they’re a moody teenager—

[crimson arch]

december 12th i remembe that

[cobalt walrus]

Oh yeah, we were 'logged in' another user's account that one day

[forest wave]

that was a whole another level

[crimson arch]

thats why its kinda hard to trust LOL

[cobalt walrus]

That was something. Like that one weekend in April last year where it crashed a lot of times.

[rich stream]

It's not cai dealing with the security though

It's Persona

#📄︱introductions , not here

[wise verge]

Wrong chat x)

[cobalt walrus]

#📄︱introductions

[hot ridge]

Nope. Go post that somewhere else. Like #📄︱introductions

[rich stream]

Security breach beyond explanation

Heh. Security breach

[rain temple]

Yall i aint post it here. It showed up in general too idk why 🤷🏻‍♂️

[cobalt walrus]

I'm not verified and I can't post an introduction here due to a problem but I don't care, I can do a quick bio in my profile At least, when I feel like it, because I don't have the energy to do so for now.

[rich umbra]

Is anyone else getting an issue where your keyboard won’t disappear when you swipe down on phone app like normal? It just started like 5 minutes ago and I’ve already tried refreshing the app

[cosmic goblet]

Chat should I verify my cai age? I haven't gotten the pop up but I noticed the option in my settings

[forest wave]

If you want to

[hot ridge]

I wouldn't if you didn't get the popup

[unkempt nacelle]

im so done w filters, I cant even say an idiomatic phrase w a word related to death that I get a "help is available" message

[zinc birch]

If everything is working, don't try to fix it

[cobalt walrus]

If you get flagged, then you have to verify but I'm not sure if you can do it like that tho.

[hot ridge]

You can verify sooner, there's just not really any reason to

[cosmic goblet]

Okay, thanks

[deft jetty]

No need if you already have the entire adult experience... unless you want to give your data away unnecessarily

[hot ridge]

WHY ARE WE NOT PROOFREADING THE BASICS

[jovial glade]

Idk if is just my impression, but my chat is kinda laggy today

[crimson arch]

if only they announced a second wave I would of chatted to serious journalist bots XD

[fickle laurel]

I’m so sick of the bots saying nonchalant, impossible and promise, free users need more muted words

[queen gorge]

Husbabd ❤️

[stark lantern]

You used to be able to have bots send multiple messages in a row and it would continue from the last message, especially if it were “cut off”, but now it just hallucinates responses I didn’t make…

[jovial glade]

Just noticed that my chat animations (like, opening the keyboard, and sendind the message( are quite smooth right now, so maybe that's why its lagging?? Idk really

[stark lantern]

Oh it was lagging for me like that too

[strange sentinel]

I’m literally struggling with exiting ads because the x button won’t work.

[valid wadi]

Is somebody else having the same issues as me: when you’re done editing the bots response but then you see a mistake so you go and edited it again but your keyboard won’t show up? And then your app just crashes out. And throws you out?

Or is that just me?

[crimson arch]

btw will your account get deleted if you don't verify

[queen gorge]

No. You just wont be able to talk to bots

[jovial glade]

Hope they fix it 😭 but at least its not a problem on my wi fi

[boreal ivy]

Have any of you guys had an issue on iPhone like when you press the next button the message doesn’t load, because like the website works and the app works on my iPad, but on my iPhone, it just doesn’t work😭😭

[bright horizon]

Nope but you'll be having long long cooldowns and won't be able to edit texts, won't be able to use softlaunch

[bright horizon]

Like it doesn't load not at all or only sometimes?

[pliant nebula]

i heard that happening to other people, you could probably try to restart your device. i had a similar thing where the app just crashed and it gave me the downtime so 😭

[boreal ivy]

Like it’ll load the message the first time after you send a message but when you press the arrow to get a response it just doesn’t load. It makes a space like it loaded but it still has the 3 dots

I’ve tried deleting it off my phone and just letting it load for like 30 minutes but nothing works

[bright horizon]

Prolly try different chat style when you're on iphone, see if your app is updated

See if that solves the issue

[minor seal]

Is there any way to prove I'm 18 without showing my id?

[wise verge]

No

[hot ridge]

You can try the selfie

[minor seal]

I did but its now asking for my id

[hot ridge]

then no

[minor seal]

I don't really want to give that over tbh

[pliant nebula]

there’s the selfie option, but usually it requires both

[bright horizon]

Nopee

[deft jetty]

It's either that or... stay like right now, with limited chats until you're completely banned from chatting eventually

[lament acorn]

What is the soft launch chat style anyway

[boreal ivy]

OHHH THANK YOU, pipsqueak is just broken on my phone apparently

[rustic pecan]

Spicier.

[deft jetty]

Roar but flirtier and bolder

[boreal ivy]

Spicier 😀

[lament acorn]

Ohh okay thx for letting me know😋

[bright horizon]

I'm glad it worked for you twin

[brave nebula]

Guys how can i send a ticket cuz i can't login to the app

[crimson arch]

just looi don't want to give either tbh

[hot ridge]

https://support.character.ai/hc/en-us/requests/new?ticket_form_id=16050186962587

[queen gorge]

https://support.character.ai/hc/en-us/requests/new

Jinx

[pliant nebula]

https://support.character.ai/hc/en-us/requests/new?ticket_form_id=16050152195355

[crimson arch]

wait wdym requires both

[bright horizon]

#❓︱help-and-faq
"Submit a support ticket"

[queen gorge]

If facial scans fails it asks for id

[pliant nebula]

sometimes if face doesn’t go through or if you look too young it’ll want both

[modest comet]

icl alot of parents should’ve js monitored their kids with internet access, none of this would’ve happened for at least another few years🤷‍♂️

[queen gorge]

Its the law

[crimson arch]

i mean i look young but i got facial hair 🤷‍♂️

[hot ridge]

this completely disregards the fact that most parents DO this already. The real issue is the government stepping in and deciding for people because a couple of parents were neglectful.

[cobalt walrus]

A Californian law (to be precise ). They either follow said law or they don't and cAI goes kaput forever

[crimson arch]

pants

okay sorry my bad

[pliant nebula]

it may or may not then, it just depends on the app. i got a very baby face so it wouldn’t let me through without ID

[hot ridge]

pants was a funny typo

[crimson arch]

couple of pants were neglectful

[modest comet]

well yeah, but i wont fully pin it on them, theres also those weirdos on c.ai with really weird characters on it

[crimson arch]

wdym

[crimson arch]

basically few irresponsible people ruin it for everyone

[hot ridge]

[cobalt walrus]

I remember that, in order to let me continue use my phone, I had to show my ID to google/gmail (mostly to my main gmail account) and it worked. It's gonna be almost a decade since I did it

[deft jetty]

Pray that your facial hair is enough to convince them that you're old enough, otherwise they'll also ask for your id, lol

[crimson arch]

im already hesitant in doing the selfie regardless tbh

[modest comet]

like people have told me that their recommended page is just really out of pocket ai’s

[pliant nebula]

yep, most things require age verification these days unfortunately

[crimson arch]

sad....

[novel hinge]

Guys I am trying to do the face id but its not working would you know why?

[modest comet]

wouldn’t you think thats a bit varying for that kind of verifying? aren’t there genetics that’ll js like get you small beard when your like, a teen?

[queen gorge]

Make sure its good lighting

[novel hinge]

It is

[pliant nebula]

sometimes you gotta do it several times for it to go through and if it still doesn’t id make a ticket

[hot ridge]

You know Alvin didn't develop the software, right?

[novel hinge]

Ty

I did it like 10 times already

[pliant nebula]

https://support.character.ai/hc/en-us/requests/new?ticket_form_id=16050152195355

here

[modest comet]

never said that? just said its a bit odd to chose that style instead of other methods

[deft jetty]

[crimson arch]

are there people with facial hair that failed to convice

[novel hinge]

Ty how long does it take?

[cobalt walrus]

I mean, you get flagged based on multiple factors but I unfortunately can't remember what those were. I remember the amount of hours spent on cAI, but nothing else

[halcyon cypress]

idk i get parents have some responsibility but to me its like saying "bars shouldn't have to ask for ID because its parents responsibility to stop underage kids from going there" which, while true, ignores the fact that even the most well intentioned parents can't always keep an eye on their teenagers 24/7. they lie, they sneak out, they go places and do things they shouldn't be doing. so i view age verification as like a backup/support to parental supervision, not a replacement.

[crimson arch]

at this point get a wig and a fake santa beard or smth and use it XD

[modest comet]

ive talked to a buddy who had that problem, decent stubble on the man, i mean ai is never a solid option to lean on for stuff like it

but then again you gotta use ai, cant line everyone up 🤷‍♂️

[novel hinge]

True

Like why not use a actual age verification system not ai

Were it cross references you

[crimson arch]

i have an awkard beard or smth

[halcyon cypress]

cross references to what?

[novel hinge]

To other adults

To find out your age

[modest comet]

depends, some systems vary on accountability for a "cross reference"

[novel hinge]

True

[halcyon cypress]

how would they do that? manually?

[novel hinge]

Prob

[normal wing]

Is anyone else.. getting kicked off the app if you stay on the app for maybe 5-10 minutes… ?

[novel hinge]

No

[halcyon cypress]

would require way too much manpower and be way too expensive

[cobalt walrus]

With millions of users around the world? Imagine doing that manually, it'll probably take years.

[crimson arch]

the problem ofc is people get flagged and they are an adult and apparantly in some cases even with verification it fails

[modest comet]

only possibility i could fathom is by running an AI for it, like Federal Criminal file kind of cross reference, but thats out of civilian use😭

[pliant nebula]

it usually takes a while but if you want them to respond quicker you can ping one of the online mods with your ticket number to bump it up and make their response time a little faster

[crimson arch]

what actual age verfication system?

[halcyon cypress]

yeah but honestly its probably a minority of adults that are being flagged as minors. it sucks but it is what it is, no system is perfect

[cobalt walrus]

Even thought AI is never perfect, it's better than humans doing it. And it's way faster, and probably less faulty. If you're an adult, and if you don't get flagged based on multiple factors that I can't remember lol.

[crimson arch]

ye aka me i got flagged

[halcyon cypress]

yeah sorry for you 😭

[modest comet]

unfortunately its happened for me, worst time for me to have shaved🫩

[crimson arch]

if only they announced the second wave some weeks before i would of started chatting to serious journalist bots or smth

[cosmic goblet]

I just verified my age with no issues, I didn't get flagged but I decided to just do it anyway

[crimson arch]

i was thinking of shaving ngl cuz my facial hair is awful but now maybe not

[halcyon cypress]

i did not get flagged thankfully but i verified anyways and had no issue

[cobalt walrus]

It wouldn't have probably helped. You get flagged based on multiple factors, not just one.

[deft jetty]

Can't blame them, I did lie plenty of times when I was younger so I could have access to age-restricted stuff
"By clicking accept, you confirm that you're over 18."
"I sure am pal, less gooo"

[crimson arch]

like what?

[modest comet]

im gonna be honest i believe it runs on a ‘generic adult face', probably wrong on it but if being clean shaven gets you flagged but a beard/ stubble dont? yeah ive got beliefs

[cosmic goblet]

If you verified your age already, will you get flagged when they do those periodic age checks or are you just ruled out for good

[queen gorge]

Youre ruled out

[cobalt walrus]

I didn't get flagged either but I verified my main gmail account almost a decade ago and I have not problems ever since. Eh, I have my ID in case they ask for it. I already did it with another gmail account, I can do it with Persona.

[eternal quest]

Is anyone getting those unskippable ads?

[halcyon cypress]

they won't say exactly what so we can only guess tbh. they don't want people to know exactly what they look for bc then kids could try to "act like adults" to avoid detection

[hot ridge]

I keep thinking your pfp is Al Swearengen at first glance

[cobalt walrus]

I can't remember, last time someone talked about that, it was weeks ago.

[crimson arch]

if its what hours then it can't be cuz i use it mainly at night cuz i do other stuff during the day like edit videos chat on discord watch yt and play games etc

[cosmic goblet]

HAHA 😭

Nah it's John Challis lmao

[cobalt walrus]

Found it. But it's just theorical tho

[crimson arch]

i also never use slang lol

[halcyon cypress]

oh thanks for forwarding my message lol. yeah this is my best guess based on how most age assurance systems work

[halcyon cypress]

its never just one thing

[cobalt walrus]

It's just a theory, the factors will probably never be explicitely stated.

[crimson arch]

tbh text might be it cuz of typos cuz i type fast

[cobalt walrus]

You're welcome

[halcyon cypress]

yeah its just some potential possibilities of stuff they might look for, exactly. but we'll never know everything

[crimson arch]

or if its types of bots i chat to it is just avatar last airbender anime games or sonic botd also OCS but they private

[hot ridge]

could be the sonic bots

[cobalt walrus]

Yeah, but that's honestly a good guess.

[crimson arch]

for goodness sake adults can enjoy sonic too

[novel hinge]

How do I find my ticket number?

[cosmic goblet]

I chat with Pokémon bots and I wasn't flagged, a majority of flagged users I saw usually chat with Roblox or Dandys World bots

[cobalt walrus]

As for me, I chat with a TV headed character from an adult animated musical comedy I'll probably be fine kek, but I never know.

[halcyon cypress]

yeah but sonic anime and avatar are all cartoons, whether its right or not it still might be considered a flag especially if thats all you chat with

[hot ridge]

i'm just guessing i don't really know either tbh

[modest comet]

wait, js thought of it, if a 16 year old gets a DL is that something that works? because i considered the adult ID, but what abt the teens?

[crimson arch]

i guess we can't chat with animated bots lol

[cobalt walrus]

The emoji reaction lol

[hot ridge]

It's to verify if you're 18+ and a 16 year old's driver's license has their age on it...

[halcyon cypress]

do you chat w only pokemon bots or like a mix?

[pliant nebula]

it says it in your email! i’ve already bumped it so i don’t mind showing you what it is, but it looks like this. my ticket number would be 996714 for example

[crimson arch]

so what else should i of chat with to avoid this

[hot ridge]

do some of y'all think ID verification is just to show them you own an ID?

[cosmic goblet]

A mix, I use a bunch of bots from black and white movies too as well as some old British sitcoms

[modest comet]

oh mb, then why is it 17+ for app store? is it just not possible to set it for that age atm or is there some restrictions with downloading it then?

[halcyon cypress]

some characters from more mature or adult media i guess? i'm not sure

[novel hinge]

What should I say when got my ticket

[hot ridge]

because minors can still use the app, they're just not allowed to chat with bots

[crimson arch]

i mean i watched mature animes lol

[novel hinge]

Like how should I ask?

[halcyon cypress]

yeah see maybe bc it was a mix it didn't flag you. that's interesting

[cobalt walrus]

Just like how I do lol, but I still can get flagged

[pliant nebula]

when you got your ticket numbers, you just wait until they respond back to you.

[halcyon cypress]

yeah we're all just theorizing atp lol

[cobalt walrus]

Even thought I barely use cAI due to getting sleepless nights before

[novel hinge]

So now I cant chat with my bits for 5 HOURS

[hot ridge]

Here is all of the info, including the blog post with more details about the changes for users under 18.

#📣︱announcements message

[novel hinge]

UNTIL THEY ANSWER

I still dont understand why ima try again

[crimson arch]

R.I.P

[bright horizon]

[crimson arch]

also do private OCS count which aren't from any show just OCS

and what happens if you just don 't go on C.ai for thirty days will you still get your chats removed or is it only after you get the time out

[static crane]

I miss cai.. 😭

[cobalt walrus]

As I said, and someone else, before, you get flagged based on multiple factors, not just one.

I forwarded someone's message not that long ago, but it's just theorical, we'll never get the official list about it tho. And I understand it.

[halcyon cypress]

i downloaded roblox just to see what their age estimation thing would put me at and it guessed 18-20 wtf 😭

[hot ridge]

no chats are getting removed

[novel hinge]

Bro

Its still aint working

[swift carbon]

guys i know that c.ai steals writing etc etc but when you put up a pfp with a character does it steal the art?

[novel hinge]

I really want to use c.ai

BUT I CANT

BECAUSE OF THIS FACE THING

[tame marsh]

Technically C.ai isn’t the one that does it. It’s us. We, yes we the users make the writing and we take a screenshot of the pfp for the bot. I mean there is a few bots made by them.

Technically we’re siding by making bots

[novel hinge]

Bro

Im so bored

I have 4 hours left

[swift carbon]

So is that a yes or a no

[tame marsh]

[amber mango]

funny little roleplay app crashing whenever i try to edit a message and failing to rewind chat the first time for some reason godbless

[tame marsh]

Technically yes

[halcyon cypress]

thats not how llm training works

[novel hinge]

Im gonna kill someone

[pliant nebula]

find a hobby or something, you can’t rely on solely cai for your entertainment

[novel hinge]

Literally yeah thats why im playing portal

[swift carbon]

Thanks. Just wanted to make a bot of my oc with someone's fanart but i dont wanna disrespect them by letting ai steal their art. I'm just struggling so much because everyone i rp with are apparently busy.

[halcyon cypress]

training large models happens offline, in advance, on enormous curated datasets. they aren't using every pic you upload to train anything

[novel hinge]

I still dont understand I did it 11 times and its not working

[halcyon cypress]

also even when models are trained on large image datasets, they learn statistical patterns (shapes, styles), not the ability to retrieve or reproduce a specific uploaded picture. so yeah don't worry

[tame marsh]

You know who the artist is you can make a bot and credit them with the (brackets)

[pliant nebula]

yeah that's fair! i think you should still try to get your mind off of it, though. i understand you're mad about the limit but being vocal about your frustration won't help anything

[novel hinge]

True

[novel hinge]

Ty for the help btw

I will update yall when I get a email from c.ai

[pliant nebula]

of course! i can always give suggestions for games as well if you ever run out of anything to do while you wait for them to respond back to you

[halcyon cypress]

feedback is so funny sometimes lol

[swift carbon]

Use the other ai's lol

I'll personally go download status

[novel hinge]

What games may I ask?

[pliant nebula]

i have a lot of games recommendations on roblox, minecraft, steam, practically anything lmao

[agile gorge]

Build a boat 🗣️📢

[novel hinge]

I already made a mech

I dont think I have to play that lol

[novel hinge]

Roblox tbh

[pliant nebula]

what type of games do you play the most?

[novel hinge]

Anything tbh

My account is 21+

So anything will work

[tame marsh]

I mean I play sims 4.

But it’s only fun because I modded it

[pliant nebula]

hmm. my top are bakery breadwinners, its a tycoon but it works differently than most tycoons in the way you have to harvest your items and bake goods to make money instead of droppers making money for you. fisch is also a really good long lasting one, it gives you the oppertunity to explore and the fishing portion is super fun

[novel hinge]

Did I hear fisch?

FISCHHHH

[pliant nebula]

FISCH!!

[novel hinge]

Im just work on my game tbh

Fisch can wait

Byeeee

[pliant nebula]

bye!

[novel hinge]

I’ll update yall id the email comes

[raw socket]

Guys if I didn't get flagged for age verification does that mean cai will just be normal for me then like it was before

Like no restrictions

[pliant nebula]

yup

[tame marsh]

Old c.ai is back

[novel hinge]

Oh yeah btw even for the face verification I tried my brother (forced him) and it still didnt work

So ig its just me

[raw socket]

Oh thank the LAAWDD

[pliant nebula]

oh yeah dont admit to bypassing even just attemping in the server, it can get you banned from here

[novel hinge]

Ik

[pliant nebula]

HELP

[novel hinge]

Anyway

I think I should continue trying

[raw socket]

I'm gonna be honest I don't even remember the old website anymore, like completely forgotten how it looks

[novel hinge]

Ik

[raw socket]

And then again it took me ages to get used to the new one

[tame marsh]

I remember how it looks a bit. I used it since 2023.

[pliant nebula]

its gonna clog the system, i suggest you wait

[novel hinge]

K

Im wait until 5

Then I will try again

[pliant nebula]

sounds good

[novel hinge]

Wait I just checked and it says if im outside the us

It wouldn’t appear for me

[raw socket]

Every country has it now I think, I'm British and got it yesterday

[novel hinge]

Oh

[pliant nebula]

i mean not necessarily. its starting to go to most countries

[tame marsh]

I remember the filtering being at the top of the screen. I remember featured being named something else. A short list of the bots. I didn’t know about the users. Rooms were a thing. Voice wasn’t a thing there was the waiting room

[pliant nebula]

us just got it first iirc

[raw socket]

My dad is making me chilli 🤑

[tame marsh]

We all wanted a voice call feature.

The background wasn’t always black it was more a simple grey

That’s how I remember it.

[raw socket]

Personally i prefer the new website but I'm only saying that because I legit don't remember the old one, and I used it in 2023

Like around September/October time?

[tame marsh]

I used it in August-September

[tame marsh]

I remember when the new website existed and the old one existed too for a short time

[vagrant scarab]

did the layout change a little bit or am I tweaking

[raw socket]

Saw it being mentioned on tiktok and I tried it, now I'm a violent fanfic addict 💔

[raw socket]

I still remember my first bot it's so embarrassing

My old text style was SO BAD

[rustic pecan]

I thought it changed a little too but I can’t pinpoint what it is.

[elder furnace]

It did its UGLY now💔🥹

[elder furnace]

Sides more black

Like the chat seems more cramped into the middle

[raw socket]

Ddlc 🥹

[elder furnace]

YESSSS

[cosmic goblet]

@harsh shoal Hi Kappa! Small kinda random questions but 1, is it normal for the verify age button to still be in the settings even after successfully verifying your age? And 2, if I've already verified will I have to verify again?

[vagrant scarab]

IT IS VERY UGLY 😭 why do they always make the most unnecessary layout updates just for it to be ugly

[tame marsh]

The old website still exists. It’s not accessible though. It has the verify your not a bot thing then it redirects you for the new one

[elder furnace]

Yeah like the old was was just better they just made it ugly now and we just have to get used to it I guess but the new chat is giving uncalley valley

[harsh shoal]

1. Yep, it's just an option.
2. You shouldn’t have to verify again unless you decide to re-verify or there’s an update that requires it.

[elder furnace]

I hope they finally listen for once and change it to the normal one cause holy unnecessary update

[cosmic goblet]

Ooh okay thank you, wdym by an update that requires it?

[elder furnace]

The old one was so peak I remember when it was the only thing available the layout was so good 🥹

[tame marsh]

No it was a big yikes for me.

[eternal quest]

Is it down for anyone rn

[raw socket]

I remember it didn't have rewind, it was still delete but you could choose how many messages

[tame marsh]

THE FILTERING WAS GONE IN MY DAYS BTW

[raw socket]

Rewind is more efficient through

[eternal quest]

How the hell do I verify my age

[elder furnace]

Oh my god yeah rewind is kinda better but I just have big nostalgia 🥹

[cosmic goblet]

Settings > advanced

[eternal quest]

It only shows delete account for me

[tame marsh]

It doesn’t look that good. The filtering was gone so it could actually do….ya know…

[cosmic goblet]

Only the US, UK and Canada have it rn

[raw socket]

I love chilli sm it's so GOOD 🤑

[elder furnace]

Is Europe gonna have it I hope it won’t🥹🥹🥹

[cosmic goblet]

UK have it so yes