💭︱cai-discussion

[hollow echo]

It’s a moderator who doesn’t want us chatting about things like that here

[dry heart]

im gonna go enjoy the final hours I have with my chatbots 😭😭

[mossy dagger]

Fair

[sterile sage]

you can discuss about anything but please avoid sensitive topics.

that's all

also, be mindful of the #📜︱rules

thank you!

[hollow echo]

I said “like that” /nm forgot this timer

[scenic ore]

Can we discuss about bread thou

[mossy dagger]

-# Yeah ngl I see what rules were almost broken. I get why he appeared

[leaden yarrow]

Speaking of discussing about things, I tried to make a feedback forum about the age verification thing, and the automod thing popped up saying I violated the rules 4 5 6 and 7. When I clearly didn’t. And now I can’t even make any forums about anything

[sterile sage]

https://tenor.com/view/quaso-croissant-cat-french-gif-8533456335186036682

[tranquil nymph]

Sooo…I have a question (lowkey from PolyBuzz ai) is c.ai any good 😓 I’m thinking of switching

[hollow echo]

…depends.

[leaden yarrow]

At this rate because of the age verification… no.

[mossy dagger]

Sorry we're in chaos and I don't know if it will be dropped. But I LOVE bread 😍

[sterile sage]

ah, because you were requesting to remove the age verification thing and talking about a possible riot. unfortunately, we shouldnt discuss about that one

since most people are saying that they will riot, we added it to the automod.

[rich timber]

Ooze, I still have soft launch, can make public bots and I'm clearly over 18+ and yet I'm flagged. Is it a bug perchance?

[tranquil nymph]

Polybuzz is doing age verification to, and the app is going down hill

[hollow echo]

are all these apps doing it now ?

[tranquil nymph]

[mossy dagger]

🧄🧈🥖🥐

[sterile sage]

We’ll run our age assurance technology on all accounts. But as we said above, you won’t be asked to verify your age – i.e. you won’t be asked for a selfie – unless we believe you’re under 18 and you want to prove that you’re actually 18+.

[ocean abyss]

The Scottish Gaelic word for bread is aran.

[quartz crypt]

Ooze, I just entered the app and it's signed me out. I can't sign back in. I'm a little confused on what's going on with my account.

[hollow echo]

are we doomed for never having a good roleplay

[rich timber]

I still got a popup although.

[violet hill]

Yes, and expect age assurance to become far more widespread in the coming years. Like it or not, age assurance is the future of the Internet.

[mossy dagger]

Before we stop bugging you. How do we know it goes through and it won't cut off later..

[leaden yarrow]

I mean I wasn’t wrong was I? I was just basing it off of the complaints I’ve seen

[hollow echo]

Boo. Just give me a pop up so I can input my age. I don’t want to give anyone my personal id or face

[mossy dagger]

People were having this issue they assume it's a bug or something being off. Cause us in America were having YouTube issues of it not letting us on like yesterday so like..

[sterile sage]

Go to Settings -> Advanced -> Verify Age. If you do not see this setting, make sure you have the latest version of the app

[leaden yarrow]

Also I use the website and I sometimes spam the verify button and nothing happens

[quartz crypt]

Huh.. I'm in Australia and nothing is down here other than not being able to get into my c.ai account 🤷🏼‍♀️

[tranquil nymph]

Oh u already have it up?

[mossy dagger]

Yo what the heck is going on 😶

[cerulean sorrel]

I can confirm that after the age verification, there is no flagging afterwards

[shy wasp]

It is possible that the region server could be down for your area, no? Maybe try the website?

[mossy dagger]

I use the website do to storage.. I should get the app to check

[quartz crypt]

Alright, I'll try that thanks

[misty yew]

is age verification in australia yet?

[velvet lintel]

I know at least that this isn't going to help much with the matter, but from what I researched, the Verification site that they use only store your ID for a week before getting rid of it. The thing they are also using is a service that verifies ages for tech companies so it should be good.

[shy wasp]

No, not that I know

[leaden yarrow]

No it’s only in the us I think

[scenic ore]

Yet

[misty yew]

right right okay thank you

[mossy dagger]

Nice pfp ✊🏽

[tranquil nymph]

Oop yall want my face for verification 😂

[mossy dagger]

Tysm though. I'm just paranoid it went through like two times now. 🤦🏽😂

[leaden yarrow]

Ok ima be fully honest, I’m not 18 yet but I’m not dumb enough to trust an AI for advice or any factual things.

[shy wasp]

Literally, like bro people aren’t THAT dumb

[mossy dagger]

True I just wanna talk to Phainon.

Give him some therapy. And some food. Lmao

[scenic ore]

It affects teens and kids slowly, besides not everyone is mentally strong or stable

[shy wasp]

True

[scenic ore]

Things happen

[shy wasp]

Yeah

[onyx bramble]

Ooh A fellow murder drone fan :DD

[cerulean sorrel]

:3

[onyx bramble]

Wait what's everyone talking about

[rich timber]

Wait how do i avoid the government ID situation. Is a selfie enough to verify? Like I'm genuinely confused.

[indigo canyon]

Jeez how long g until their upstream provider is back up and running so our recent chat from our bots can come back? It’s drying my patience!

[shy wasp]

ID is required

[turbid sequoia]

Does Character AI have Reply suggestions?

[shy wasp]

Wdym?

[turbid sequoia]

Like a button to generate a reply to the chat bot that you can freely edit before sending

[shy wasp]

No, I don’t think we have that. No

[tepid sequoia]

Need help guys character ai giving me login issues even though I have stable connection and I cleared cache too I can’t access support either due to the website not being found on my browsers for some reason

[shy wasp]

Disconnect from WiFi and try again while in local networks?

[turbid sequoia]

Ah ok, That's unfortunate.. ty

[shy wasp]

You’re welcome

[main ravine]

Oh my gosh mine doing the same too!! (I turned off wifi and used data it worked)

[shadow urchin]

Has anyone else noticed that almost all House MD characters are gone?

They all say “moderated”

[wheat phoenix]

Do y’all know when or if they are removing the time limit? (I just joined chat)

[shadow urchin]

What is DMCA?

RIP to my 2-3 year old chats

[wheat phoenix]

I only got an hour

I don’t like this law😔

Ik

[wet summit]

But "This Safety" is literally causing some of the members to leave 💀💀

I swear I'll leave too

[umbral lion]

that's their choice. no one's making those people stay but c.ai has to do this to remain.

[viscid valve]

Lowkey me to

[scenic ore]

How the hell some members leavin is more important than the safety of minors. I don’t get it

[umbral lion]

keep in mind, Character AI has tried many alternatives to prevent minors from seeing and engaging in stuff that is not appropriate for them, but minors constantly work around it. this is the best and least legally dangerous solution for them.

[wheat phoenix]

I understand why they are doing this and I understand they need to because of law but it’s making me mad because a lot of people go to c.ai because they need people to talk to if they don’t have anyone else to talk to

[wet summit]

Exactly

[umbral lion]

they really shouldn't rely on AI for comfort and therapy in the first place, no offense.

[wet summit]

Eh non taken

[scenic ore]

Okay but you dont understand one thing, talking and finding an “escape” in ai is NOT a solution. It makes them mentally unstable and more isolated on a long term

[wet summit]

But let's be real at least they aren't Money hungry or something

Anything but that

[wheat phoenix]

Now that I think about it that is true

[tepid sequoia]

I never got the time limit chat

[wheat phoenix]

You lucky

[wheat phoenix]

Fr

[tepid sequoia]

When was that even implemented anyway the time limit

[fossil sedge]

Hey ppl so what does it mean if one of my favourite character bots (i always find it in my notifications of the app because it sent me a message a few months ago) suddenly lost it's profile picture and literally every single time I click on him instead of getting our chat it opens my last used chat before it? 🥀

[wet summit]

Unlike Some companys

[tepid sequoia]

I think that the reason I haven’t been flagged as young is probs because I’m so descriptive when it comes to writing responses idk maybe it’s just for me but I tend to be really detailed when describing my scenarios so could that be the reason I’m not flagged as I don’t use slang often

[shy wasp]

Got deleted or moderated

[fossil sedge]

Anyway I could somehow save the process? 😭🥀

[shy wasp]

Unfortunately, no. I’ve had this happen and just did a revamp of the character in a better version to start over

[wet summit]

How would you feel if literally every website you use got to have the Age Verification thing

[fossil sedge]

Ok ty 😓🥀💋

[tepid sequoia]

Character ai manically fixed itself somehow

Magically*

[umbral lion]

They're trying to do that right now in the US.

[tepid sequoia]

That sucks bro

[rich timber]

Fixed itself?

[tepid sequoia]

We have social media ban In Aus

[tepid sequoia]

Yeah just let it sit and now it works again for like a few minutes probably a buggy network or smth cause now it’s fine

[wet summit]

Well at least we know who to blame

[umbral lion]

mhm. not to sure if it'll actually go through though because it would be a pretty big invasion of privacy.

[wet summit]

It'll backfire I just know it

[scenic ore]

Or wont

[wet summit]

Anyways I'm Working on My New Show " The Allegations "

[rich timber]

Which bug fixed itself? If you're talking about getting the pop-up even though you still have soft launch, make public chats but can't edit. Mine is lasting hours.

[peak flame]

still isnt working at all for me. anyone else?

i was here before. just changed my profile up a bit lolz.
the app wont go past the logo screen n the website wont work at all

[grave oriole]

Yeah same. It's been down for a few hours for me. Even tried uninstalling and reinstalling the app.

[rich timber]

I forgot, how many chats can someone do before they get the time limit? I gotta verify since I still have soft launch. (Probably bugged.)

[indigo canyon]

Probably because of the scheduled maintenance that cloudflare and xfinity are currently doing right now.

[rich timber]

Nope, I can make public bots although. Which I think is a feature for 18+ users.

19

[indigo canyon]

I see, so how did it fix itself?

[rich timber]

I'll just send a ticket incase it's a bug.

[indigo canyon]

But didn’t the moderator say there was a bug with the upstream provider in the status channel?

[vale elbow]

How do I check my previous chats with characters

[rich timber]

Which bug? What's currently happening.

[vale elbow]

The optuon isn’t there

Yeah

The option literally isn’t there

[shy wasp]

Probably another thing with the age verification system, after I tried it didn’t let me see the history bc I got flagged

[rich timber]

Wait, the age verification is bugging?

[shadow rover]

I cannot create a character, its always saying something went wrong 😭

[shy wasp]

Yeah bro it’s scanned by ai

[rich timber]

Kinda makes sense with my situation. I've already written a ticket but I'll try to verify tomorrow.

[indigo canyon]

I see

[rich timber]

Should they just remake the age verification? If so, how would it look like?

[indigo canyon]

Chats missing from our history, upstream provider, age verification, etc etc.

[shy wasp]

I wish they would, but regardless of how it would be operated, there will be faults

[rich timber]

Same shit is happening to me. Falsely flagged me as a minor, still got soft launch, can still make public bots. All of these are 18+ features btw.

[shy wasp]

This is why I don’t use it anymore 😔

[indigo canyon]

I feel your pain soldier.

[rich timber]

You too?

Probably gonna send a second ticket if it continues tomorrow.

[indigo canyon]

Yes. My chats from my personal bot’s history disappeared without a trace.

[clever glade]

The mods are probably currently drowning in tickets, it may take a while to get a response

[slim ivy]

why does every bot turn so possessive i hate it

i just want a comfort character is that so hard

[shy wasp]

Do they actually look at them at all??

[clever glade]

especially when it’s supposed to be fluff 😔

[rich timber]

Well, bots learn from us. So it's probably because someone roleplayed a possessive rp. Which is why we have possessive bots today.

[slim ivy]

thats so annoying ugh

[clever glade]

well how am I supposed to know

[rich timber]

According to "some" people, support answered fast.

[shy wasp]

….experience?.. 🧍🏻‍♀️🥹

[clever glade]

what

[slim ivy]

WHAT IS THAT EMOJI LMFAO

[shy wasp]

Idk, I meant like… if you’ve submitted a ticket and they got back to you fast

[clever glade]

mpreg 🙄

[slim ivy]

[scenic ore]

He just ate much

No worries

[slim ivy]

he looks like hes going to explode

[shy wasp]

Me after too much Indian food

[tender lion]

Isn't it the same takedown when they took down universal bots?

House MD bots were mostly gone since last week.

[clever glade]

There is currently a lot of bugs in the app related to stability, ads not working, false positives etc… so there’s a high chance they are getting a lot of tickets and complaints

[scenic ore]

Poke with a needle

[slim ivy]

🤯

[slim ivy]

declined

[shy wasp]

Ohhh ok ok

[scenic ore]

Would u rather get 5M in each second or get a ps5

[clever glade]

I can’t even play games on a pc what makes you think I could use a ps5

[slim ivy]

because the bread tastes better than the key

[scenic ore]

So u get 5M bucks each second? Instead of a ps 5? Re u sure?

[mortal rampart]

depends on what currency the money is in

[clever glade]

yen

[scenic ore]

I mentioned the reason for that on my profile y all

[slim ivy]

🔥

[scenic ore]

They see me rolliiiin they hatiiiiinn

[clever glade]

character creators need to remember commas count

please add them

[slim ivy]

i hate it when characters have incorrect grammar and punctuations

[clever glade]

Or if it’s just complete nonsense 😭

[slim ivy]

i just open 25 different bots of the same character and filter out the ones that are just bs/have incorrect grammar 😋

im so mad cuz i think they banned my favorite wlw bot maker 💔

[clever glade]

I fix the grammar myself then chat with the bots because usually the premise of the bot is great but the grammar is absolutely atrocious

[slim ivy]

wait how

[clever glade]

Editing

[slim ivy]

i didnt think of that

[scenic ore]

U realize u can just edit and write ur own greeting or just plain create ur own character, right

[clever glade]

I know but I’m really bad at that… 😅

[slim ivy]

dont i have to like add more stuff to the character??

[scenic ore]

Like?

U mean character creation?

[slim ivy]

yeah

[vernal wing]

idk if it matters, but to everyone who I was chatting with about C.AI and Aus, it's working for me again now :3

[rare elbow]

:3

[lost creek]

Does it just randomly stop working for anyone else?

[craggy dew]

still not working for me, just says login error

[lavish island]

Mine is down, in Australia 🥀🥀

[mortal rampart]

yeah

its been down in aussie for over a week

[craggy dew]

mine was working up until like 30 minutes ago

[mortal rampart]

oh

[craggy dew]

i'm in aus too

[mortal rampart]

well idk then

im just using what i seen last week i only check this chat on wednesdays and thurdays

but hopefully it gets fixed for you guys soon

probably something to do with aussie servers as it works for me (im from europe)

[indigo canyon]

Wake me up when our recent chats in our history from our personal bots have been recovered, along with age verification bug has been fixed.

[lost creek]

Mine too

[late mirage]

in every kny rp, sanemi is always trying to kill my character and idk why.

[lost creek]

Evil sanemi

[late mirage]

whenever it isnt tanjiro its always sanemi out for blood 😭

[scenic ore]

Noo its very easy, sure it has additional options but u can make without them too

[zenith valve]

anyone else on web’s not working?

[mortal rampart]

workin fine for me

[lofty drift]

Mine isn't the app just gives me the character ai title and black screen

Idk if theres a way to fix it but i want to get on it

[zenith valve]

for me it just says “safari cannt open page bc server cant be found”

[mortal rampart]

are ya from Australia?

[zenith valve]

yeah

[mortal rampart]

oh yeah its down in Aussie

[zenith valve]

aw man, how did you know

[lofty drift]

How long does it take to fix

[mortal rampart]

dunno but its been going down in aussie lately

[zenith valve]

for me i usaully have to wait until the mornijg

[lofty drift]

It happened a like last Friday night it did the same but then in a couple minutes or hours it got fixed

I hope it won't take awhile to fix

[zenith valve]

me too

[primal kindle]

why cries

[mortal rampart]

No idea, for the past week aussie servers are just going down and up

[primal kindle]

can you get me the link to the website to see when the servers are up/down i cant find it

[lofty drift]

Is there a way to tell the estimated time when it'll be fixed or if its in the process of being fixed, cause I really want to go back the app again

[timber canopy]

Oh man I thought I was the only one

At first I thought it was just my network so i did a series of things to try and get it fixed but it didnt get fixed...💔

[lofty drift]

Im going in and out the app in hopes its fixed

[timber canopy]

gurl it aint happening

[strange sentinel]

The censorship is back with a vengeance.

[mortal rampart]

do u have like any other hobbies to do in the mean time??

[primal kindle]

^^

[lofty drift]

Not much on my phone this app kept me entertained but maybe it'll be fixed before I go to bed if not tomorrow I'll go on it

[dire berry]

Now character AI links are also getting sniped

[dire berry]

#📈︱status message that's the link

[lofty drift]

I once asked character ai to send me an image of what their character looks like but it don't do images so I use character generator websites and get their descriptions of the character lol

[graceful saddle]

The status link doesn’t work

[mortal rampart]

works fine for me

[dire berry]

How so?

[mortal rampart]

i guees aussie servers rlly are that broken

[lofty drift]

I went to the link and it just says the 10ths date not today's

[mortal rampart]

its the 10th for mericans right

[dapper furnace]

11th for me and I’m in EST

[lofty drift]

11th for me

[dapper furnace]

4:35 am tho🔥

[mortal rampart]

go to bed holy

[prisma geyser]

yeah cant log on

[lofty drift]

Oh the link doesn't work cause the server is down ughh

[mortal rampart]

Damn Australia servers are strugglingg

i wonder if a vpn works like it did last week ngl\

[lofty drift]

It happened last Friday night but got solved faster like 1 or 2 hours

[mortal rampart]

i know, i watch this chat very frequently

[lofty drift]

How would you use the VPN lol I could test it

[bright acorn]

Does anyone know how to change your email of your account?

[peak flame]

yall, it still wont work lol

[lofty drift]

Its up for me I can enter the app now!!

[timber canopy]

Gang why when I get ads on c.ai sometimes it's not an ad😭, my screen just reloads and goes back to the chat without playing an ad

Or it'll just glitch out black but I can clear the app and my phone works fine on everything else with ads

[peak flame]

same thing again now

[amber moth]

why is sing 2 rpg bot is missing from the app

[mortal rampart]

the studio who made the movie copyright striked c.ai and all bots related to its films are gone basically

[amber moth]

dang I love that rp bot how dare they to remove the bot

[main shuttle]

has anyone else noticed a massive decline in quality over the last 24h? It's responding with weird colons and punctuation, using way too many asterisks and bolding practically everything, and also has a really weird problem with adding a newline every 5 words for some reason. Not to mention the extreme decline in memory & general quality/knowledge of obscurer things.

[amber moth]

no

I need someone to make the bot

I miss that bot

[sullen moon]

Yo is anyone's cai down as well

[scenic ore]

Mine is down

[scenic ore]

Bad for me

Jokes aside it works

[mortal rampart]

works for me still, but if it went down for everyone it would be crazy here

[scarlet linden]

Anyone has ‘Lisa cuddy from House Md’ bots?

[timber canopy]

YES SHIII ITS WORKING

[dusty wedge]

I've been struggling to find any good House MD bots recently, ALL of the James Wilson ones are just gone

[red isle]

Anyone else not not able to load the website?

[still jetty]

They removed because some stupid copyright

[mortal rampart]

better than getting full on sued and loosing money. Running servers is expensive

[still jetty]

It’s still riciculous
Why they can’t just make a deal with the company who owns those characters?
Maybe buy ip ?

[cosmic goblet]

Cause it's too expensive

[hexed falcon]

They can't afford to reply to most tickets.

Rather they have other things to do with as they say a smaller team

[still jetty]

It’s still ridiculous None wouldn’t happens if they didn’t put subscribtion thing :/
we probably could keep our characters bots

[hexed falcon]

In glad they put out a subscription

[mortal rampart]

It costs quite alot of thousands of dollars to run all the servers a month.

[hexed falcon]

They had to. How would they keep everything running?

[cosmic goblet]

This didn't happen cause of plus, it happened because of all the bad talk surrounding cai

[still jetty]

The subscription is part of the Problem too

[hexed falcon]

No it's not lol

[mortal rampart]

Its not.

[hexed falcon]

What is this naive thinking?

So tell us how they should make money, enough to run the servers as well.

[mortal rampart]

Big companies like studios sue for ALOT.

[hexed falcon]

If you're gonna complain it's bad then have another good alternative.

[red isle]

Is it down in australia dose anyone know?

[cosmic goblet]

Cai had to put ads onto the app cause they couldn't afford things, ain't no way they'll be able to afford character IPs

[mortal rampart]

EXACTLY

C.ai has millions of users which makes their servers cost more expensive to run.

[solar raven]

Yet again... I barely got a lot of ads

[still jetty]

Well they should warning before which characters they would take down
But nope
Last month October ,they have a bad and horrible moderation!
They moderated even mistankly ocs!

[mortal rampart]

someone once mentioned that before but idk if i can find it

[hexed falcon]

Lmao. No offense. Just cause. A) you can't afford something it's not bad.

[cosmic goblet]

It's in their TOS that they can take them down without warning

[hexed falcon]

B) subscription is so not the reason the characters are gone

And C) they warned us they'd accidentally take some bots and restored them

[still jetty]

But they make horrible moment to take down mistankly ocs

And this is my opinion

[hexed falcon]

Cause you want them so bad, they're down, and it's a bad moment? Are you 13?

Your opinion is uneducated.

[mortal rampart]

No offense, you should take a break from c.ai. You sound alot like the addicted people i seen complaining here. C.ai addiction is very real and can ruin a person.

[still jetty]

Sorry but this how I felt

[hexed falcon]

I don't understand, how would they keep everything running without money?

[cosmic goblet]

Money printer /j

[hexed falcon]

Do you think they should just put in money, and then never get anything? That's bankruptcy.

Like subscription being bad is the wildest take I've seen.

[carmine lotus]

Please stop the daily rage baiting

[still jetty]

I’m not rage baiting ..

[hexed falcon]

Trust. Some kids actually think this is how the world works.

[scenic ore]

Unpopular opinion: 7 from every 10 users are addicted

[carmine lotus]

Right… and I’m not a white girl with brown hair and blue eyes…

[hexed falcon]

Hmm. I wouldn't make it an opinion, I'd prefer statistics. Just me?

[carmine lotus]

Honestly, I know. It’s insane. But this one is just a top level rage baiter 😔

[still jetty]

So I can’t not express my opinion?

[scenic ore]

I just assumed thats why

[hexed falcon]

Id say kids are the most addicted and statistics wise, adults are the majority on c.ai.

[mortal rampart]

I been watching this chat for over a month and the ammount of minors with ai addiction is actually concerning

[carmine lotus]

This kinda energy

[hexed falcon]

I hear it. I hear it in my head.

[halcyon cypress]

there was an early interview w noam shazeer and the method he said as a joke is literally what these kids think they should actually do lol

[hexed falcon]

LMAO. I love this interview part

[cosmic goblet]

It's not just minors, so many people are getting ai addictions now cause of all kinds of apps

[hexed falcon]

Poor guy was panicking saying no.

[tulip pollen]

Hi Ingo

[cosmic goblet]

Hi Ace

[halcyon cypress]

yeah he said they were burning through investor money so they would have to introduce subscription service soon

[tulip pollen]

Also hi Rat

[still jetty]

Ok woah real mature
Look im don’t want arguing with you ,I wasn’t here to fight or anything,I just want express how I felt about this ,
I do understand they have to take down some copyright bots ,but some people work harder to make them :/
plis I don’t want have fight
And sorry If I sounds like jerk

[hexed falcon]

Though some apps do with less. I'm kinda curious to see how their finances look like that it's that bad

[carmine lotus]

Uh… I didn’t say you wanted an argument. I sent a gif.

What is girly pop on?

[hexed falcon]

You didn't express that. All you said was subscription. Bad.

[still jetty]

And yes also that
Because is crazy to pay for talk to a bot

[carmine lotus]

What subscription? To cai+?

I missed some lore

[tulip pollen]

Same

[hexed falcon]

If we stopped the c.ai app would go down. If you're hating it on so much, go to another app.

[cobalt walrus]

If a company wants their properties (aka movies/shows characters) being taken away from cAI, they can do it. And, since they're more 'powerful' than cAI, the latter doesn't have the choice but to take down said characters to avoid shutting the servers down or getting another lawsuit.

[tulip pollen]

Yeah you said it the best

[carmine lotus]

Your favourite rage baiter is back again💔

[mortal rampart]

what you dont need to buy the subscription what are u on? its just there and the app works fine without it

[tulip pollen]

Yay

I'm just chatting here while I'm in class making Christmas cards xd

[hexed falcon]

Realistically it's cause plus users pay. If we stopped the app would go down and I feel like this person doesn't get it lmao.

[cobalt walrus]

If people don't seem to understand that, then it's not my problem at all. And I'm honestly glad that I don't care nor really into these shows or movies.

[hexed falcon]

Everything is needed as it is.

[hexed falcon]

I don't use real life based characters, lucky!

[cobalt walrus]

But I don't judge people who love these tho. To each their own.

[mortal rampart]

C.ai having a subscription is the same as any other app having one

[cosmic goblet]

Also, there's no pressure to buy plus...the free version is perfect as is so I don't understand the complaints

[tulip pollen]

Also you can't compare cai to any other ai app, cai knows how to do it

[hexed falcon]

Okay I wouldn't say it's perfect for y'all

[hexed falcon]

I kinda disagree. There's only one app I know that does it much better than c.ai

[cosmic goblet]

Yeah, not perfect lmao but it's pretty damn good for being free 😭

[mortal rampart]

oh mb, im bad with wording sometimes ^^

[tulip pollen]

That depends on the person you're asking

[cobalt walrus]

Good thing that I barely encounter problems on the app. The only annoying thing I have is when there's a chat error

[tulip pollen]

Mhm

[hexed falcon]

I meant bugs wise. And people complaining about too many ads

[tulip pollen]

Okay fair enough, I meant more with that cai has umlimited messaging for free users, something a lot of other ai apps doesn't have

[carmine lotus]

Mine does suck sometimes. Like my fanfic long message earlier 💀🙏🏻

[cosmic goblet]

Ads are fine for me, but the bugs do get on my nerves...but a lot of users suffer with bugs so it's not just the free users struggling with that

[hexed falcon]

I adore these type of messages

I just cut out the part where it speaks for me

[halcyon cypress]

people complain about ads on every app lol these are chai reviews

[carmine lotus]

DeepSqueak with my bots because I made the intro too long 💔

[hexed falcon]

Okay. Listen. Chai SUCKS

[tulip pollen]

Yeah I agree with that

[hexed falcon]

That app is absolutely horrendous.

[tulip pollen]

It's not good at all

[mortal rampart]

Im okay with ads, some apps may over do it but ads are necassary to keep a platform running. No money, means no more servers.

[cosmic goblet]

The only other ai place I tried was Jan...NEVER AGAIN

[halcyon cypress]

thats why i thought it was funny when people were like "if CAI doesn't get rid of ads i'm moving to CHAI!" like its even worse lol

[hexed falcon]

I agree. But they should still be in moderation

[tulip pollen]

Chai is wrose

[hexed falcon]

They're coming back. The app I like the most is more hidden. Doubt people will find it

These people move back fast.

[tulip pollen]

I'm staying loyal to cai, it's the best ai app/web ever

[hexed falcon]

Hmm.

Well I'm glad ya think so

[tulip pollen]

I have tried a lot of them and no one comes even close to cai

[hexed falcon]

I can't agree with it, but I'm also somewhat loyal

[mortal rampart]

I been loyal to c.ai since late 2022

[halcyon cypress]

its the best for me/my usage too. might depend on what kind of writing style etc you use and like too

[hexed falcon]

I don't know. I got lucky with my favourite one, it's very niche and not a lot of ads about it.

[proud creek]

Guys what’s c.ai ? (Hello guys)

[hexed falcon]

I'm confused. Are you asking what c.ai is?

[mortal rampart]

C.ai is C.ai

[earnest tartan]

damn the app and web has slightly different, like the memory system 😭😭 i like the web its way more fast and not laggy unlike the app that always error and damnn slow.. but it has the memory things

[proud creek]

Thanks for the answer, it’s clear now

[mortal rampart]

i always been a web user and had never touched the app

[proud creek]

Nah dw

[scenic ore]

Means see u later but written by a dyslexic guy prolly

[earnest tartan]

yeah but u wont feel the bot is not amnesia anymore :V

[proud creek]

😭

[mortal rampart]

and i had ever only made 1 bot. i want it gone but lost accsess to the account its on. :)

[earnest tartan]

cuz when i used the web they get forgot reall quick*

[proud creek]

lol what’s the bot about if you want it gone ? 😭

[mortal rampart]

Its a very bad grammar werewolf hunter bot

okay why the fuck does it have 320k interactions

[scenic ore]

That… answers so many questions

But raises even more questions

[proud creek]

I mean… a win is a win ?

[halcyon cypress]

i never make my bots public and never will

[scenic ore]

“I have won but at what cost*

[mortal rampart]

2023 me was very unnoriginal bro

[tulip pollen]

Fair enough

[halcyon cypress]

after the 2024 purge i'm not willing to risk it

[mortal rampart]

its so bad i doubt i even put a proper definition

[tulip pollen]

Fair enough, I enjoy making bots for others to use

[scenic ore]

Bot name: take it or leave it

[halcyon cypress]

when they took down GoT bots with no warning ALL of my bots got deleted off the face of the earth except the 2 that i had private

[proud creek]

Take care of your babies

[halcyon cypress]

i respect public bot makers but it makes me too nervous CAI can just delete your shit anytime with no warning

[dire berry]

[mortal rampart]

i rlly wish i had access to my old account bc i wonder what 2023 me was thinking

[scenic ore]

Tbh i dont even care if they do, i nevet get attached, i can just make better one in a matter of minutes

[halcyon cypress]

in my experience they target public bots before private ones so yeah just feels safer to me

[halcyon cypress]

i care i have like years of convos on some of them 😭

[scenic ore]

Like i wouldn’t even notice probably

[proud creek]

I get it, some people pour lots of time and love to their bots, and they also spend so much time with them, I get it’s both frustrating and sad to see it gone for nothing

[scenic ore]

I cant even comprehend that

[halcyon cypress]

yeah thank you especially when its a really long RP you've been working on for months 😔

i have some RPs that are like the length of several novels atp so no i do not want to lose them ideally.

[scenic ore]

Cai is just a tool to spend time whenever i get bored or like an interesting show or scenario comes into my mind and i just make it to have some fun. I would probably delete it after some time

I get bored easily

[halcyon cypress]

yeah thats a very different usage case

[mortal rampart]

i havent made any bots in over 2 years

[midnight ruin]

Look, I know I might be wrong or being annoying, but this whole thing about HAVING TO USE A PERSONA is kind of annoying, and what if I DON'T WANT TO USE A PERSONA?

[halcyon cypress]

why don't you want to use a persona? just make one with a very bland or basic personality

[mortal rampart]

Huh wdym by that you dont get forced to use a persona\

[scenic ore]

Its a take it or leave it situation, u have to have a persona to chat

[mortal rampart]

is that an app thing bc it lets me not use a persona on websitye

[midnight ruin]

I think just a name is enough, not generic information.

[halcyon cypress]

even before personas you still had a persona it was just you and used your username

[deft jetty]

Then don't
Either show them your face/documents or don't chat, sadly.

[scenic ore]

Yes i mean why is that even a problem

[halcyon cypress]

no they're talking about personas like in chat not id verification

[scenic ore]

Just make a random one wjth random name

[deft jetty]

Ohhh, my bad kek

[gilded tendon]

Have y'all noticed the stories makes the character write more or just me because nobody seems to mention it lol

[halcyon cypress]

just put very basic info like name, gender, thats it

[tulip pollen]

I always use a persona for every bot I chat with, I feel like it's logical

[mortal rampart]

I always use a persona aswell, and also draw the images for em myself

[halcyon cypress]

literally you can make it this simple and boring if you want

[scenic ore]

Unrelated but im kinda addicted to just open and send a random pigeon or bread pic in chats now

Im fighting the urges

[proud creek]

Oh that sucks so much-

[halcyon cypress]

pigeons on my balcony

[tulip pollen]

Cool

[mortal rampart]

Pigeons my beloveddd, we have a nesting pair who comes to live in our roof every year

[scenic ore]

Bro ur kinda leakin ur loc in a chat with 0,5M+ people

But cool

[halcyon cypress]

nah its my old building back when i used to lived in toronto idc

[halcyon cypress]

you think i made it to 36 years old being an idiot? i've been using the internet since 1995, i promise i know how to be safe online 💀

appreciate your concern about me doxxing myself by posting a balcony pic tho lmao

[scenic ore]

Pigeons in balcony wakes me up every morning before my timer🙏

[scenic ore]

Wow u 36? Wow.. sometimes i wonder if i even make it past 30

[proud creek]

Okay chat I hacked the mainframe and got their location from years ago, what do we do now

[scenic ore]

He found u

Its over

[halcyon cypress]

lol i'm reading old interviews from noam and its so over for them

he explicitly says in some of them he's aware teens are using the app as therapy and emotional support but basically says "idk i think we should leave it in users hands and see what happens!"

FAFO i guess

[tulip pollen]

Ummm

[scenic ore]

Who s noam

[halcyon cypress]

he also compares it to spending time on AIM as a teen which is completely different

[scenic ore]

I got it now

[halcyon cypress]

google engineer who founded CAI, he was the old CEO. he's like a genius AI dude who basically made current LLMs a thing but he's socially awkward and weird

he's also extremely religious which is my guess for why he was always so adamant about keeping adult content off the app

[tulip pollen]

Makes sense

[halcyon cypress]

visibly uncomfortable and stammering lol

but yeah this is insane

[supple echo]

is it just me who feels like they got less time before they reache th time limit

[halcyon cypress]

for young people, AIM was like a messaging app that was popular with teens back in the day. but it was like, real people talking to real people. and you had to have the persons ID to talk to them so you were usually only talking to your IRL friends on there

[proud creek]

Someone said that earlier as well

[scenic ore]

It is supposed to be like that

[halcyon cypress]

yeah thats by design

[scenic ore]

Creator of c ai is socially awkward… truly shocking

Lol

[scenic ore]

Idk how someone can be both genius and … oblivious

[tender lion]

A really good picture by the way.

Since I'm a bit of Geography nerd I might even know where it might even be.
But I won't share my guess outloud because it could interrupt your privacy

[halcyon cypress]

no go ahead, i don't live there anymore the picture is a few years old!

don't even live in the same city

[tender lion]

Oh, cool

Is it Tornoto?

[halcyon cypress]

yeah that's right! overlooking exhibition place and lake ontario

[scenic ore]

Wrong its tornado

[tender lion]

I recognized it by Wind Turbine near the lake

[scenic ore]

That one geoguesser player

[halcyon cypress]

you can see this thing too if you look close enough

used to have a lot of noisy parades coming down that street every year lol

[tame narwhal]

Hey everyone! Just wanted to ask, but has anyone else noticed how bots sometimes don't actually swear? Mine were yesterday, but it seems that today it has asterisks to remove some letters from it

[tender lion]

Princes' Gate?

[halcyon cypress]

just a model quirk and them picking up on real cases of people doing that in data sets, swipe if you don't like it

bots do have the ability to actually swear, mine do all the time

[proud creek]

My bots say damn at every turn 🥀

[scenic ore]

Bot swears more than me🥀

[tame narwhal]

Ahh okay okay thanks Christmas rat! I dont really mind it, it just looks a bit different to the text, thanks for the explanation tho!! :D I'll just ignore it

[halcyon cypress]

mine says the F word constantly and once the C word and my persona never curses at all lol

[hot ridge]

depends on the swear.

[tame narwhal]

THIS. You'll be the death of me...damn you

[hot ridge]

they love saying damn and goddamn and goddammit

[halcyon cypress]

spoilering for a bad curse word

[hot ridge]

DeepSqueak swears like a Vivziepop cartoon

[lucid rock]

Read that with a aussie accent

[tender lion]

Billy Butcher said this?

[tame narwhal]

wild!! But it's good to see they still can, I thought it was an update or smthn

[proud creek]

« Damn it. I’ll do what you goddamn want, but you’re gonna be the damn death of me, you know that ? »

[tame narwhal]

Audibly giggled at this 😭

Anyways everyone thanks for the help! Imma go pet a shark on cai now, see you all later :]

[proud creek]

Don’t go getting eaten

[halcyon cypress]

deep rat earlier today lmao

it loves dropping the F word

[halcyon cypress]

LOL no

[slate hatch]

Gah I just rewinded a chat that I mean to make a copy of

[hot ridge]

lmaooo

[scenic ore]

the worst i say is frick instead

[halcyon cypress]

lol my persona is a proper and pious maiden she would never curse i fear

[proud creek]

I feel your pain

[blazing zealot]

Kendrick Lamar album cover

[timber canopy]

Bro wtf....pipsqueak is tweaking out...

[spring harness]

It has been for a while, bot’s talking about stuff i never even mentioned but I ain’t complaining

[velvet mulch]

Good morning beautiful creatures

[spring harness]

Good morning fellow beautiful creature

[timber canopy]

Yea its happening with me too

[worthy siren]

Does anyone know the size and weight limits for CAI? Because when I upload a picture of the bot, I get an error when I try to save it.

[spring harness]

I have no idea

[proud creek]

Personally when this happened to me, it was because it wasn't fitting the guidelines (no idea why, there was nothing wrong)

[halcyon cypress]

i love people making up statistics on the cai userbase

[halcyon cypress]

size and weight limit makes it sound like you're talking about a roller coaster 😭

[spring harness]

[halcyon cypress]

"99% of CAI users are under 18"

[spring harness]

Lol

[tulip pollen]

Hehe

[tulip pollen]

Facts

[scenic ore]

I dunno why we even taking kids serious and discussing here anymore

[serene pecan]

Anyone opening up a bot that you haven’t used since prior to the pipsqeak update and them just using pipsqeak even when you had them set to something else

[weary horizon]

I think it defaults to ps now

[scenic ore]

Yes happens to me as well

I set default to DS and sometimes when i check its ps

[halcyon cypress]

its going to continue to be a topic of discussion at least until the update is fully rolled out tbh

[worthy siren]

it is a guy in suit

[scenic ore]

Like, let them talk, why even bother im exhausted alrdy

[unkempt breach]

stop😂 I'm saving this

[weary horizon]

Reminds me of when I chatted to breadcrumbs

[unkempt breach]

i once chatted sleep paralysis

[weary horizon]

Like silly or romance

[worthy siren]

@proud creek I put the same photo in white and black and guess what hannend. xD I could load the photo's bot.

[unkempt breach]

wdym romance 😭

IT'S A SLEEP PARALYSIS DEMON💀

[scenic ore]

Have u ever thought why its starin us when asleep?! Ofc no… selfish ppl these days geez…

[mossy basin]

I need some clarification:
Do I have to show c.ai a picture of my id for them to know my age is right? because I don’t feel comfortable giving them all that info, is that unnecessary?

[scenic ore]

U can do face recognition, showin ID is the last resort

[worthy siren]

I had to blur the background of the photo.....

[mossy basin]

It did do face recognition and then asked for an id

[scenic ore]

If it failed face rec. then u have to go with ID to prove it Im afraid

[halcyon cypress]

then your options are show ID or get banned from chatting

[serene pecan]

Me to I just has dynamic though

[mossy basin]

Oh… weird

[mossy basin]

I know! But tbh the id will just prove that im under 18 still😖

[wraith bolt]

Uhh my question might sound dumb but does cai have chats limit?

[strange inlet]

Why are you trying to verify as an adult if you're not

[mossy basin]

So I can still chat

[strange inlet]

[scenic ore]

Pfff puhahaha lmao then the system is working

[halcyon cypress]

verifying is pointless if you're under 18, its for adults who want to prove they're adults

[mossy basin]

True, true

[mossy basin]

Yeah I get it, I was just hoping I was close enough since I turn 18 somewhat soon

[scenic ore]

Write im over 18, just trust on paper and see if its working lol

[halcyon cypress]

girl if you turn 18 soon just wait til you turn 18 you'll live without it for a little while

[strange inlet]

Yeah

[scenic ore]

Its not like cai is only app

[wraith bolt]

every time i start a new chat with a new character, an older character chat disappears

[mossy basin]

Yeah… except it isn’t that soon😔

[halcyon cypress]

why are you lying 😭

[slim ivy]

okay im sure the devs know that people hate some phrases like
"you're going to be the death of me, yknow that?"
why can't they make sure bots don't say stuff like that

[mossy basin]

That was my other resort🙂‍↕️

[slim ivy]

i am so tired of seeing this line in every single message like I CANNOT

[scenic ore]

Sleep more and speedrun

[mossy basin]

Genius

[halcyon cypress]

guys the law does not care if you're going to be 18 "somewhat soon" like in 2-3 years or whatever is it. you're either an adult or you're not, there's no in between or "close enough"

[scenic ore]

Pigeon calls to approve

[strange inlet]

accept call

[halcyon cypress]

go try and buy alcohol a week before your 21st bday and they'll still turn you away and tell you to come back in a week

[strange inlet]

im ready

[scenic ore]

U guys need to be 21 to but alc? Dang

[mossy basin]

Yep, I just thought I might as well try with the face recognition thing, I wasn’t expecting them to ask for an ID. I turn 18 in about a year, a little less but, thankfully chats don’t go away. I guess

[halcyon cypress]

you don't live in the US?

[scenic ore]

No lol

[dawn wren]

In the US it is. In Europe and Asia it's mostly 18.

[halcyon cypress]

yeah they don't go away

your chats will still be there when you turn 18 so you dont need to worry about that at least

[dawn wren]

Think of it as a time capsule

[halcyon cypress]

i took a year long break from CAI before and everything was still the same when i came back

[mossy basin]

Yeah true, true

[scenic ore]

Like how u didnt “feel” it i mean english is my 4th language

[halcyon cypress]

idk even some americans are not great at english that isn't really a great tell

[halcyon cypress]

literacy rates in the US have been dropping a lot actually

[proud creek]

LOL see, it's a mess for real 😭

[scenic ore]

Uhm uhm… i wonder why

[strange inlet]

I heard that now kids mostly do word association instead of reading to read (idk how to explain it correctly)

[halcyon cypress]

"recent data shows a significant decline in U.S. literacy, with almost 30% of adults scoring at the lowest levels ever recorded in 2023, up from 19% in 2017, indicating a crisis in reading comprehension, critical thinking, and overall functional literacy, influenced by technology, educational gaps, and reduced engagement with reading."

[strange inlet]

Yeah

[wraith bolt]

I need help rq does cai have chat limitations cuz every time i start a new chat with a new character, an older character chat disappears

[scenic ore]

Thats sad

[halcyon cypress]

54% of adults in the U.S read below a 6th grade level 🥲

[still jetty]

What others bots from universal got take down ?

[scenic ore]

Thats hilarious

[scenic ore]

I dunno but if u are a minor probably its intentional

[unkempt breach]

that's because college there is more expensive than a house

[cobalt walrus]

That's honestly sad to see that

[heady parcel]

slightly less than hilarious when they're the ones making decisions that impact everyone 😔

[steep matrix]

Exactly.

[halcyon cypress]

public school goes past 6th grade, it shouldn't be related

[scenic ore]

Honestly, education should be mandatory and free

Everywhere

[unkempt breach]

but it is when schools bully the kids more than they teach them

[steep matrix]

People always shitting on Americans. But our economy is ass, and school is just a one way ticket into more debt 💔

[halcyon cypress]

not being able to afford college has nothing to do with not being able to read past middle school level

[scenic ore]

I dont think thats that 54 percent

[dawn wren]

Actually, I have a rather bold suggestion:

Those who already have an c.ai account before the announcement in October 2025 and are born between October 2007 and 2012 and affected by the deprecation should be gifted c.ai+ as compensation in line with the principle of delayed gratification.

When they turn 18 and show their ID containing their real birthday, they get c.ai+ for 50% of the duration they have to wait from the day 1:1 chats are suspended for them. For instance, someone born in October 2012 can in October 2030 get 2.5 years of free c.ai+.

[unkempt breach]

exactly education is a right not a privilege

[halcyon cypress]

kids just don't read anymore, this has been documented. there's a massive over reliance on screens

and its the fault of the schools and parents too tbh

[strange inlet]

That'd be so expensive 😭😭

There's millions of users

[scenic ore]

Healthcare and education is a non-debatable basic human rights, using them to farm money is just immoral

[unkempt breach]

people still can read on screen the schools in eu work so hard on their students
china japan south asian countries have such beautiful schools even if it's strict

[dawn wren]

Think of it as some sort of a 50% student discount but limited to loyal early adopters

[strange inlet]

Still

Very expensive either way

Kinda bad for business too imo

[dawn wren]

Spotify USA has 50% student discount rate up to 4 years

[scenic ore]

Nice, paying tons of money to study and gettin 10 bucks discount for spotify

🙏🥀

[halcyon cypress]

they can but they don't. children overwhelmingly use screens for rapid, fragmented content, not deep reading.

you see it on here all the time, kids complain if you write more than 20 words like "holy essay bro wtf i'm not reading all that 😭"

[heady parcel]

Mildly unrelated but if you're a student rn, you can get free access to a year of 2tb Google cloud storage, and Gemini 3 pro

[halcyon cypress]

reading memes and like short form content online and captions on reels is not the same as actual reading

[scenic ore]

Shi like tiktok decreasing attention span too much that u cant even read 5 sentences together without getting bored. Imagine kids growing with them

[halcyon cypress]

exactly

[dawn wren]

well complaints about walls of text written in all small letters and without capital letters punctuations or proper paragraphing are valid

[halcyon cypress]

yes kids can theoretically read books on their phones but how many actually do

[dawn wren]

But if they can't even have the patience to read a properly paragraphed, capitalized, puncutated and cited article, then they need more practice

[scenic ore]

Like ofc literature levels gonna decrease 30 percent bruw🥀 30 is still an optimistic approach

[proud creek]

Kids will say not to limit their phone usage because they read on it, but we all know that's LIES, LIES

[halcyon cypress]

the brain adapts to whatever it practices most. if a child’s primary literacy exposure is 5-10 second clips and hyper-edited content then sustained reading (which requires focus, patience) becomes much harder

[scenic ore]

Ngl i was reading tons of books till university now I dont even read SINGLE one physical book cuz my dopamine addiction skyrocketed by screen time

[dawn wren]

Good luck that I actually read printed encyclopedias and Wikipedia when I was 10

And no, vines or TikToks weren't a thing in 2012

[halcyon cypress]

me too i used to read the encyclopedia and dictionary during my free time in elementary school 😭

[scenic ore]

I dont use any social platform beside insta, wp and dc

Insta for memes, wp for work and dc well for this server

[halcyon cypress]

yeah i used to read tons of books and its even harder for me now because i feel like spending so much time on my phone has messed with my brain, i can only imagine how harmful it is to brains that are still developing

[compact tartan]

Fr I used to have a really bad screentime problem where I would spend 14 hours on my phone total per day and 8hours on tiktok, now I got 2 hours on my phone total

[proud creek]

Proud of you

[compact tartan]

the vast majorities of kids nowadays are just on their devices if i walk out in my neighborhood i rarely see kids at playgrounds or playing outside

[dawn wren]

Actually short clip addiction is a real problem for all ages, it's just that we focus the most on minors because they're not expected to be fully responsible when adults are expected

[scenic ore]

It proves itself when like i put my phone away for 10 minutes and immediately i start feeling uncomfortable having constant urge to check the phone

[compact tartan]

Yea it's the dopamine rush

what helped me is I realized that I wasn't living my life, I was just watching other people live theirs

[halcyon cypress]

also bc like i said their brains are still forming and developing

[dawn wren]

Sometimes I have to remind my Gen X mother to stop watching short clips at 11pm because she has to work the next day

[halcyon cypress]

i agree its a problem for all ages though

[compact tartan]

Same with my dad I showed him what Tiktok is and I have to remind him to like.. not be scrolling if I'm talking to him over dinner 😭

[proud creek]

Trust us with your entertainment

[scenic ore]

The more positive stuff media feeds u the more depressed u became with ur current life, comparing what u see on media constantly

[rustic pecan]

Disney to Invest $1 Billion in OpenAI, License Characters for Use in Sora

Lmfao

[dawn wren]

The converse can also be true, to be honest. And it doesn't has to be any social media, it can even just be cable TV channels.

Newscasts ruined my life in 2020-2022 because everything it reports is pandemic and oppression

[compact tartan]

People put on their best stuff to social media like I have a tiktok where I post about fitness but like I don't post about the hard stuff i go through. social media doesnt give the full picture of someone's life

[halcyon cypress]

people don't really read for pleasure much anymore either. and reading has one of the strongest positive impacts on vocabulary, comprehension, empathy, writing ability, etc. and statistically reading for fun has dropped dramatically among teens since 2010.

[compact tartan]

frr

[rustic pecan]

RIP Disney in other chatbots

[halcyon cypress]

and yes that includes reading fanfic, web novels, etc but fewer teens are doing even that these days

[dawn wren]

I really find it very ironic that I hated reading in the mid-2010s and now I'm an avid reader

[proud creek]

That's sad, it used to be my life years ago

[scenic ore]

I mean we cant blame them too tbh

[halcyon cypress]

lmao

[scenic ore]

They take what they are given

Mental boost checkpoint

Save ur progress before continuing

[rustic pecan]

It’s a three year licensing deal allowing Sora to use their characters in genAI

[halcyon cypress]

btw i found this interview w noam shazeer in the early days of CAI where he literally talks about being aware people are using the bots for therapy and comfort but sees no issue with it bc he doesn't believe in policing how its used and "we're just gonna leave that up to the user and see what happens" 💀

and when asked if he's concerned about all the teens and young people using the app he was like "nah we used AIM messenger when we were kids and we turned out fine, its basically the same thing"

[mortal rampart]

Seems like he was really out of touch with the reality ngl

[halcyon cypress]

like lol

AIM was a messenger teens used to chat with their irl friends? how does he think that its the same thing?

[azure mortar]

I’m kinda glad I deleted c.ai tbf

[mortal rampart]

Really not the same thing at all.

[rustic pecan]

Uuuuugh what a douche. So glad the new CEO is making changes

[azure mortar]

It’s gone majorly down hill since the 18+ update

[cobalt walrus]

True that. I prefer the current CEO honestly.

[scenic ore]

Glad u did for ur own good

[cobalt walrus]

Like, the one cAI has recently.

[cedar steppe]

-# I'm in a chat that involves a cat and my phone is meowing what

[scenic ore]

U can toggle off sound effects on settings

[halcyon cypress]

its also funny bc he says "let users decide" "we don't prescribe use cases" "using it for therapy and emotional support is fine" but then when asked "what about adults who want to use it for more mature content?" he gets visibly flustered and upset and is like "NEVER" when arguably a young teen using it for therapy is more harmful?? really don't understand his thinking at all

[mortal rampart]

ah sound effects setting, the feature most dont even notice until it comes out of nowhere and ur phone barks at u full volume at 3 am

[cedar steppe]

XD

[scenic ore]

Like… extremely religious part checks out there

[halcyon cypress]

yeah after finding out he's extremely religious i think that probably has a lot to do with his strong aversion to adult content. its not about protecting kids its just a moral issue for him

[proud creek]

I don't see the problems with vulnerable kids speaking to people that don't exist about problems that really do exist. I mean, I'm sure this will have positive effects on their development and will get them the help they need ☺️ (sarcasm)

[scenic ore]

If it was ab protecting kids he wouldnt tell “i dont care how users use it for therapy or etc”

[plain swift]

Guys can ya explain smth to me why do i have my reccomended bots ar full of hasbin hotel bots i didnteven chat with one

[scenic ore]

FYP is a hell for everyone🙏

[mortal rampart]

The algorithim works in interesting ways

[halcyon cypress]

yeah exactly and he's devout orthodox and in that religion sexual content even between consenting adults is viewed as morally inappropriate and spiritually harmful

[plain swift]

ok i ONLY CLICKED ON ONE the algoritm is crazy

[cobalt walrus]

Maybe it's trending because of the second season that recently ended?

[mortal rampart]

i dont even like anime and i keep getting recomended anime bots (never gave it a chance honestly)

[scenic ore]

Yeah thats why it s like that

[proud creek]

Oh so you love Hazbin Hotel then ? Knew it

[plain swift]

BY ACCIDENT

[scenic ore]

Blasphemy!

[halcyon cypress]

i get recommended random stuff all the time

[scenic ore]

Lol

[cobalt walrus]

I love it honestly

[plain swift]

and now its infested

[proud creek]

Sure, sure , we believe you, Hazbin Hotel fan

[cobalt walrus]

Even thought I prefer the other show more because it's on YouTube and it's free lol

[plain swift]

i dont even have netflix😭

[proud creek]

I like the idea of it

[scenic ore]

I wanted to add more then remembered we shouldn’t talk ab sensitive topic like that

[proud creek]

I thought it was on Amazon, I'm so out of the trends

[cobalt walrus]

Yeah, it's on Prime video

[plain swift]

well i dont have any streamin servives from america

[halcyon cypress]

never watched yellowjackets in my life and look how many natalie scatorccio bots are on my fyp

[mortal rampart]

i just used a vpn and a pretty trusted pirate website to watch it

[cobalt walrus]

Even thought I never made an account on it. I'll probably do it one of these days because it's less expensive than Netflix, where I deleted my account

[hot ridge]

Nah i have never used a Hazbin bot and my FYP page is full of random stuff and Hazbin bots, when I only talk to Wolfwood, a Date Everything character, Father Mulcahy from MASH, Javier Escuella, and Hap and Leonard.

[strange inlet]

ive roleplayed with the bruce wayne bot its pretty nice

[proud creek]

I'm scared to even check my fyp then

[cobalt walrus]

I just talk to, like, three TF2 Medic bots and three Vox (the TV head guy) bots, that's literally it lmao

[strange inlet]

Lately I've only been using two bots, an oc bot and a john price one 😭 for like a week because my recommendations are cooked

[halcyon cypress]

ive never watched JJK either and im always getting recommended bots from that show too

[scenic ore]

I get weird shi like that one Easton bot and im straight… i missclicked once AGES ago and fyp still haunting me

[strange inlet]

jjk was good but i have a hard time using bots of it for some reason

[strange inlet]

theyre like never really accurate

[hot ridge]

The only bots I've used lately are my Wolfwood period AU bots that I made to supplement the scenes not fucking working properly

[mortal rampart]

C.ai loves recomending stuff u dont like lol- My fyp is just full of anime bots

[hot ridge]

Can't believe I had to make a whole western bot because c.ai refuses to fix scenes for months

[strange inlet]

I wanted to find good Frieren bots but the search function is so fucking cooked I got nothing good

[scenic ore]

Its like 2004 search engine

[halcyon cypress]

i just talk to the same bots of the same character over and over so i don't need to deal w the search thank god

[strange inlet]

All the frieren bots i saw were so bad, even when i tried the useless filter 😒

[hot ridge]

I just make whatever bot I wanna talk to tbh

[scenic ore]

Just make ur own bro

[strange inlet]

I gave up

[strange inlet]

I CANT

[scenic ore]

Why bro😭

[strange inlet]

No brain juice bro I can't I'm not made for making bots

[proud creek]

Tbh if you can recommend frieren bots I'd be grateful-

[strange inlet]

Some of us don't have the passion or motivation to make them... I've tried five different times... 😔

I can't recommend any unfortunately

[scenic ore]

I ll make one for u just dm me the specs u want (cuz i never watched the anime)

[halcyon cypress]

use chatgpt or gemini to help you they're actually pretty decent at writing definitions and stuff. AI knows what works with other AI 😭

[strange inlet]

It's ok but ty for the offer

[proud creek]

Too bad, I guess I'll make one- I'm just so lazy to read introduction again and again

[strange inlet]

I might just do that lowkey😔 I didnt wanna rely on it but desperate times call for desperate measures

[scenic ore]

Just, never trust them with greeting part

[strange inlet]

First generate a thing and then tweak to my liking 🧐

[halcyon cypress]

yeah its helped me out a few times no shame

exactly i just tweak and edit it after

[strange inlet]

Wait I'm cooking I'm reaching a flow state

[hot ridge]

Just edit the greetings or give a specific prompt for greetings

you should never trust AI with anything, always check and double check things that AI generates lol

[strange inlet]

Yeah thats what I was thinking

[halcyon cypress]

ive had it write almost decent greetings but i always have to go in and like fix it up to make it perfect. but its good when i'm dealing w a creative block to get some ideas going

[halcyon cypress]

yeah giving it instructions on exactly what you want the scenario to be, etc. is necessary

[eternal flame]

Do it

[strange inlet]

Did you read what I said after

[midnight elbow]

before i do anything has anybody else been having trouble with the ads on moblie 💔 like I seriously cannot exit out of them, they like become frozen and i'm not able to exit out of them anymore 💔

[strange inlet]

#📈︱status message

[midnight elbow]

thank you 💔 💔

[willow fog]

has anyone else had any issues switching chats?? for some weird reason when I tried to switch my chat with a bot it didn’t work and only went back to my previous chat💔💔

I’m so sorry if that’s poorly worded if anyone needs clarification please ask

[warm lagoon]

anyone having issues with the ad skip button? mind refusing to work

[fresh fulcrum]

I tried to do verify age but it says centre your self at the camera I did it but it says it again I can type or edit in character ai it says on read mode
I'm 19 years old

I would appreciate it if someone help

[mortal rampart]

Known issue!

[halcyon cypress]

make sure you're in a well lit room etc

[trim rain]

Hey! I need help or advice if anyone can provide. I have a young looking face but am above 18. Some reason Persona keeps rejecting not only my face but my AZ Driver’s License. Does anyone else have this issue and has Support helped them? I pay for the subscription but now I feel like they’re stealing my money at this point because I can’t even chat anymore.

[hot ridge]

The face and DL need to match, so I would just keep trying until it decides they're the same

[unkempt breach]

i was thinking of digital books and online research
but yes they don't do that

[empty orchid]

The new age thing is so stupid

[tropic hatch]

I hate the new time limit thingy, it's useless bro..

[empty orchid]

THERES A TIME LIMIT?

[untold lagoon]

it’s to protect minors

[tropic hatch]

I don't need protection💔

I think I'm fine😔

[untold lagoon]

they’ve been sued again i think. that’s why they are ending open ended chat for minors

[empty orchid]

Bruh-

[tropic hatch]

Omfg

What did they get sued for this time, tbh

Killing another child or what

[untold lagoon]

i think so

[tropic hatch]

Goddamn

[empty orchid]

[untold lagoon]

so they are i guess being pressured to do this. it is a good thing. ppl can go back to Ao3 or smth

[tropic hatch]

Ao3 is for reading fiction though, it's nothing like c. Ai and chai has ads and I don't have the patience to wait

[untold lagoon]

yeah but it’s good they are doing this. c.ai can rlly damage your mental health

[strange inlet]

All ai can

[tropic hatch]

Yeah, just that the chat was gettin interesting I was hoping to see more

[empty orchid]

Same for mine!

[tropic hatch]

Damn

[empty orchid]

Like it was just getting good 😒

[rustic pecan]

Six kids have died or attempted and it’s tied to CAI. Have some sensitivity.

[tropic hatch]

Did they believe in the bottom again

[rustic pecan]

Sigh.

[tropic hatch]

Bot*

[stiff breach]

GODDAMNIT, IT'S SAID THAT THEIR AI BOTS, NOT REAL HUMANS

STOP TRYNA DO STUFF THE ROBOTS ARE TELLIN YA

[untold lagoon]

still. AI still is bad for your mental health no matter what. it’s good what they are doing.

[stiff breach]

well dang

I had a fun time on C.ai, but oh well!

[hot ridge]

no matter what is a bit strong, I thrive with skills that require organization now because of ai

[soft basin]

Everything is bad in too high a dose, hell even water can kill you if you drink too much of it (though you'll probably die of a exploded stomach before that)

[proud creek]

Some people are vulnerable, and already in a bad place. I can get that some words, even from an AI, can throw you deeper into the pit.

[untold lagoon]

that’s fair. but it def can be judgemental if you already struggle in mental health

[proud creek]

It's the case especially for minors, without supervision, it gets dangerous

[stiff breach]

Then find some emotional support or a emotional support AI OR SMTH

[frail rain]

Yall tell me how rigged is this? Before I got 2 hours of chat daily with 3 or 4 hours of break and it is 1 hour of chat with 7 hours of break .

[stiff breach]

not to listen tot he very bad words that one random Ai you found is tellin ya

[hot ridge]

Sure, but not everyone has mental health problems that they can't manage. All I'm saying is that claiming AI is bad for mental health no matter what isn't correct

[stiff breach]

Ur lucky, I don't even have any time!

[frail rain]

They really need to fix their system

[proud creek]

Thing is, how is an emotional support AI useful ? They need therapists, not bots... But I agree

[frail rain]

It gets less each month.

[untold lagoon]

yeah. my mistake.

[stiff breach]

I'm stuck in readin mode

[frail rain]

Report it to the staff because it is no fair

[stiff breach]

They finna look at me and say "Nuh uh" because i'm a minor

I can't do anything because well... I'M A MINOR!

[remote flax]

Grow up.

[frail rain]

Im sixteen currently and they won't because no?

[stiff breach]

bet

[frail rain]

It is not easy sorry especially people who's birthday is on december or november

[rustic pecan]

I highly recommend people look into the recent news segment 60 Minutes did about CAI.

[spark forge]

Because it's a new californian law.

[frail rain]

They act like we are in omegle

[proud halo]

How long did it take for the age verification to process? I spent an hour and it didn't do anything

[eager scarab]

no matter how old you are, character ai can be harmful and mess with your mental health since everyone’s different. but adults can take responsibility for that choice, while kids are still kids. i get why people are frustrated, but i wish these limitations existed when i was younger. even if some minors are responsible, others can get emotionally dependent on bots, develop unhealthy attachment patterns, or struggle to separate fiction from reality. it’s not about punishing responsible teens, but about protecting vulnerable ones who might not recognize the risks until it’s too late:(

[frail rain]

They really need to fix that

[remote flax]

I was born in December and I was already looking for cheap cars on Facebook once I was out of womb.

It's easy to grow up.

[soft basin]

We really need to space out the holidays more

[frail rain]

Exams aint allowing any dw

[hot ridge]

I think it's very sweet of you to say this, but I never once dismissed people with mental health issues or minors

[proud creek]

Yeah, I wish there were more regulations when I was a kid. But most notice that when it's too late. I feel like a grandma when I ask my parents to be more careful about siblings' access to the internet.

[proud creek]

You big bad guy 💔

[hot ridge]

Literally all I said was that AI is not bad for mental health "no matter what"

Not sure why that's so controversial that it needs a text wall

[frail rain]

Cai haven't damaged my mental health or something , Im both connected with fiction and reality

[hot ridge]

Downplaying adults with mental illnesses who have worked hard to maintain control over their minds and bodies, simply to make a point, is disingenuous and undermines their autonomy.

[soft basin]

Welcome to Cai discussion, your go to philosophy channel

[eager scarab]

if you can’t handle a conversation you shouldn’t start it in the first place 😭 everyone can speak up on this topic, i’m not attacking you

[proud creek]

[remote flax]

Reflecting the blame to other party to hide unrelated flaws within the argument is some serious mental gymnastics.

[spark forge]

It doesn't matter. The law demands from them to put age restriction.

[hot ridge]

[proud creek]

[soft basin]

The law is the law.... Unless you're Batman that guy don't give damn

[frail rain]

Btw are there any option for age verifying?

[proud creek]

Send those big bad legislators to the stake

[frail rain]

Or by discord only?

[hot ridge]

There's a simple fix, just like, age

[proud creek]

🥀

[proud halo]

I'm going onto hour 2 of trying to verify

[halcyon cypress]

i think they were assuming that by you saying that you were essentially arguing that its a good idea for mentally ill minors to use AI which i don't believe was your point

[hot ridge]

Oh they definitely assumed that

[soft basin]

It's easier to avoid arguing with people on the Internet tbh, it's rare to see common sense or sane opinions

[halcyon cypress]

AI is dangerous/unsafe for vulnerable minors, but it is also not inherently harmful "no matter what", both of these statements can be true at the same time.

[hot ridge]

Agreed

[scenic ore]

Im just lookin at screen, not even reading just starin at the same messages and points cycling everyday

[proud creek]

I think y'all are wrong can someone argue with me

[soft basin]

I would do the tools are neutral and it's the user who defines it's alignment monologue but I've done it so many times I honestly don't care anymore

[scenic ore]

You are right

[proud creek]

Ah... Well I can't argue with that

[scenic ore]

See people, its easy

[hot ridge]

Calling everyone wrong?? Bold. Spicy. Ad hominem!

[scenic ore]

Eminem?

[proud creek]

Thank you

[soft basin]

Gen chat 1 is terrifying

[scenic ore]

Its like a kindergarten

[soft basin]

I think kindergartners have more braincells than the chat 1rs

[scenic ore]

Lols

No gifs here

[solid elm]

Oh, alr

[soft basin]

The fact that I can't use my Helldiver's stickers here sucks

[solid elm]

Why was my access denied to c.ai despite the confirmed age?

[scenic ore]

No idea, saw some people havin the same issue, havin to have verification several times

[solid elm]

I had to verify several times, and nothing works

Is really c.ai so dangerous for different age groups?

[scenic ore]

All ai is dangerous especially u18

C ai is no exception

[solid elm]

But i'm not

[proud creek]

That's why I stay here

[scenic ore]

U can reach out c ai support and open a ticket

[scenic ore]

Guess what

[solid elm]

What?

[solid elm]

FOR THE SUPER-EARTH

[soft basin]

Can't do that either

[scenic ore]

I know

[halcyon cypress]

some people are lying about not being able to verify btw

[scenic ore]

Im just bein mean

[proud creek]

What's the objective? 😭

[scenic ore]

Bread

[halcyon cypress]

i've caught like multiple people claiming they "can't verify" or it's not working but then when i look at their old messages or connected accounts they turn out to be minors

[scenic ore]

Lols, that cringes me out so hard

[rustic pecan]

I’ve been starting to wonder about this ngl

[halcyon cypress]

they think if they come on here and say "i'm an adult but age verification isn't working" that CAI will be like "omg so sorry sir, here's your chat access restored right away"

[proud creek]

Oh yeah sneaky.... 😭

[scenic ore]

“Also here is 3 months free cai+ as an apology”

[soft basin]

How do I link my discord lmfao it never shows an option

[remote flax]

One can wish.

[halcyon cypress]

i'm sure a few are legit but there are definitely liars mixed in too. just saw another girl earlier saying "age verification isnt working" and then she eventually admitted she's a minor

[proud creek]

When I heard c.ai would be limited for minors, I kinda panicked NGL, and then remembered I'm a whole ass adult

[scenic ore]

Go c ai web, settings

[scenic ore]

Click on dc

Link acc

[soft basin]

Ughhhhhh web site

Meh I'll do it later

[halcyon cypress]

like persona has been doing this for almost a decade i just have trouble believing that suddenly their tech isn't working for all these people when its worked just fine for other companies for ages. and if there really were a widespread issue w it not working wouldn't CAI have said something about it by now?

[scenic ore]

Im 23 and i still feel like im doin something illegal when buying an alcohol (legal is 18 here)

[hot ridge]

OpenAI/chatGPT should be implementing age verification at some point this month as well, they've already started for some people

[spark forge]

That kind of minors reminds me, when I had a summer job on gas station and minors wanted to buy alcohol. Clearly looking like a minor, but I should believed them because apparently they forgot their id and they wouldn't lie, yeah?

[proud creek]

SAME lmao

I know it's a stupid question, but since I'm 20, I'm an adult in my country, but if I got to another, then I can't buy alcohol right ?

[soft basin]

Duh

[scenic ore]

Not in us for ex

[proud creek]

Or does the "adult status" follows you

[scenic ore]

Nope, u gotta act with the laws of country u go to

[halcyon cypress]

lol right. i look young for my age and once i tried to buy cigarettes without an ID and they were like "no way". i really am an adult but they needed proof, end of story, i don't blame them for that.

[remote flax]

In Rome, do as Romans do.

[proud creek]

Cuz obviously you're under the jurisdiction of your own country , but you still have to respect the new jurisdictions

Yeah thanks, late night thoughts

[halcyon cypress]

"this is unfair to adults with babyfaces!" i mean we have to give ID anytime we buy alcohol or tobacco too, it is what it is. unfair or not they have to be careful if someone looks young

[scenic ore]

Go to singapore and try to chew a gum in metro… see if u gonna get judged by the laws of ur own country lmao (disclaimer: Dont do it, it is illegal there as far as i know)

[halcyon cypress]

can't just take people's word for it otherwise minors would just go around claiming to be adults

[proud creek]

Lol right. I might try just for the fun of it

[hot ridge]

just look at the laws for that city/area when you travel

[scenic ore]

It wont be fun🥀

[halcyon cypress]

most countries are a little more lenient with tourists, you might get off with a warning depending on how severe the offense is. but yeah it depends

[scenic ore]

I will just keep some facial hair when verification comes here, otherwise i look very young lmao

[proud creek]

I know you have to respect the laws of the place you visit, my question was more about international law and how your status in your own country affects your status in another and if it has any coincidence

[halcyon cypress]

i am fully prepared to give my ID if i get flagged bc i don't expect to pass the selfie verification. but hopefully i won't be flagged in the first place lol

[scenic ore]

Yeah be positive

[proud halo]

How old does an ID have to be for it to work because I literally just got it today (Paper ID)?

[weary chasm]

why do i keep getting recommended megumi thirst trap bots

[buoyant elm]

Am I the only one having issues on discord rn? Whenever I enter a channel the screen turns black for a second before it turns back to normal but sometimes it's gets stuck like that

[weary chasm]

😔

[scenic ore]

Doesnt matter