💭︱cai-discussion

[queen gorge]

https://support.character.ai/hc/en-us/requests/new I recommend reporting it here. It's a new bug with people having bots disappear for some reason when theyre still accessible to others

[green orbit]

thanks!

[elder cliff]

I just sended one

[queen gorge]

@elder cliff @green orbit Ershin just opened a thread for you to put more info into ^^

[green orbit]

thank you! this is so helpful 🫶🏻

[elder cliff]

Actually idk why bot are gone.. I just lost interactions

[queen gorge]

Dropping your user should be enough if you dont know which bots are missing

[slender talon]

Guys the new chat colour?

I hate it I feel like I’m on Facebook

[queen gorge]

-# https://discord.com/channels/1017072750386483332/1391816456685228194 If you dont like it consider boosting this

[slender talon]

THANK YOU

[queen gorge]

YW !

[slender talon]

Bro all the new features are freaking me out

[austere yacht]

does anyone have to re sign in everytime you switch to another bot? or is it just me

[teal root]

How do I change my password on the character ai app?

[timber canopy]

Passwords were phased out ages ago unfortunately

[teal root]

What’s that mean?

[timber canopy]

They no longer use passwords. Only email, Google or Apple

[teal root]

Okay that makes more sense. Thank you!

[winter inlet]

my C.AI bot isnt working. does anyone have any tips

[half ruin]

Okay so I was in the middle of typing out a reply when the whole chat glitches. I went to refresh that didn't work, then I closed and reopened the app but the character I was chatting with was no longer there or on the website. Could the author have deleted the character?

[queen gorge]

#1392228685037178902 message Nope, bug

[queen gorge]

How isn't it working ?

[winter inlet]

It just freezes and i have to refresh the page for it to work again.

[queen gorge]

Try changing chat styles

[winter inlet]

i did. it just. doesnt work

[queen gorge]

Web or app

[winter inlet]

and every time i refresh i send another message and it freezes again. and its web

[half ruin]

😮‍💨 Welp I'm not surprised but simultaneously kinda glad it wasn't totally deleted 😅 it was getting interesting with a multiverse theory.

[winter inlet]

actually no its both

[queen gorge]

The thread I linked might be helpful ^^ its a mod gathering info to get the problem fixed

[queen gorge]

Okay a few things, do you have the birthday popup on the app ? If so, fill that in

[winter inlet]

i filled everything in. it worked before but now it started freezing.

[frail robin]

Is this a FB comment i am reading rn?

[queen gorge]

Do you have a vpn or ad blocker ?

[winter inlet]

nope

[queen gorge]

Have you tried clearing the web and apps cache ?

[winter inlet]

i reset everything and it still freezes.

[rain parrot]

Im okey with all that if they just give us group chats with multiple bots 🙏

[queen gorge]

Have you tried switching from wifi to data ?

[winter inlet]

yep i changed 3 different networks including hotspot. nothing

[queen gorge]

I have no idea what could be causing your chats to freeze. Is it every bot ?

[winter inlet]

every bot. i can send you a screenshot in DMs or something

[queen gorge]

#📱︱chat-feed and I think at this point you need to submit a ticket

[winter inlet]

great.

[frail robin]

1. They declined to delete you yourself ???

2. Fixing one bug spawns 10 more. Wow. Welcome to tech development. Happens all the time.

3. The hotline thing and violence. Okay.

4. If they dont remove the ads on top of not fixing the rest of the problems, i am deleting my c.ai and everything and moving to Chai

Okay bye then!

[rain parrot]

Does chat history save if the bot "disappears"?

[queen gorge]

Considering it's just a bug, no. If the bot was actually deleted by the creator, then yes history would be deleted.

[broken ridge]

Have you finally added the ads?

[eternal rampart]

imagine having a deep emotional sort of convo and the bot responds with

“c.ai is SPONSORED by RAID SHADOW LEGENDS!!”

[frail robin]

tried to translate whatever they said to make it actually palatable for the eyes.

[queen gorge]

Ads dont appear in the middle of chats

[winter inlet]

i submitted a ticket to the help site 5 days ago. i havent received a reply other than a robot

[eternal rampart]

i was joking

[remote prawn]

the app is unusable for me still... i've deleted and redownloaded, sent in multiple tickets. i'm still waiting for a response. which is fine

[queen gorge]

You can ping a mod and give them your ticket number and briefly explain the issue

[rain parrot]

Good, I kinda want to check if any of my chats disappeared but I lowkey don’t want to give them ID’s of the bots I use…

[winter inlet]

where do i ping them?

[frail robin]

oh darn it got removed.

[queen gorge]

Right here

[eternal rampart]

did c.ai make the chat colors brighter

[winter inlet]

@drowsy oasis can you help me with a bug

[queen gorge]

-# https://discord.com/channels/1017072750386483332/1391816456685228194 Yes, way too bright. If you dont like it consider boosting this

[eternal rampart]

thank you bc i rlly don’t like it

[coarse socket]

I was having a great roleplay and the bot disappeared mid convo. Thanks c.ai. You just lost my subscription.

[queen gorge]

#1392228685037178902 message

It's an ongoing bug, no need to cancel your sub 🙏

[frail robin]

what the hell lmao.

app users catching lots of bs rn.

[winter inlet]

do i ping a different mod or something. im worried ill get banned or something for being a nuisance

[mighty timber]

so ads are gonna be in cai but its in testing rn?

[queen gorge]

You need to provide your ticket number and explain your issue while pinging a mod, not just asking for help with a bug

[winter inlet]

oh alright.

[broken ridge]

I feel like the same thing is happening that happened in December when several bots disappeared and then came back.

[queen gorge]

Yes it was announced 2 months ago

[broken ridge]

For a few users

[winter inlet]

@meager junco I kinda need help with a bug, i submitted this ticket 817598. and it freezes whenever i send a message and i gotta refresh before i can send another message.

[modern swan]

i feel like we need a tech support channel

[vernal musk]

My bot kept asking for a watermark and trying to guilt trip me

[meager junco]

hmm first time i heard of this issue

[meager junco]

Can you shoot me a DM @winter inlet?

[winter inlet]

ok

[icy pumice]

guys does anyone else’s cai constantly use brackets now and just won’t not use them

[vernal musk]

I still have the issue too bad

[queen gorge]

Trying to help people in general is so hard the chat moves so quickly 💀

[icy pumice]

okay thank gosh I’m not alone on this one

[vernal musk]

Ur not alone I still have the issue

[graceful zephyr]

And the most confusing part is that bots that were originally deleted are back?

[broken ridge]

Could it be that it is failing so much because of too much traffic?

[vernal musk]

[queen gorge]

It was a bug that is currently being fixed. If you have some bots that disappeared that aren't back yet, check out this thread #1392228685037178902 message

[broken ridge]

They come back from one moment to another

[queen gorge]

Pasted the wrong message 💀

[vernal musk]

Mine types in brackets and Morse code

[queen gorge]

Try switching chat styles

[vernal musk]

I already did soo yeah now it works perfectly fine

[graceful zephyr]

Like Dry Texter, Konig, etc. are back but pressing it is says deleted

[queen gorge]

Give the mod in the thread info then #1392228685037178902 message

[broken ridge]

Recharge it several times if that helps you.

[graceful zephyr]

No F[CENSORED] way, dry Texter is back

[rain parrot]

The heck is that

[timber canopy]

Ahhh they must be working on the bug then!

[graceful zephyr]

Made by Palace321

[queen gorge]

Yup. Next is for them to change the chat colours back 🥰

[rain parrot]

Ohhh that bot

[timber canopy]

Yes!! This bug is honestly very scary though 😭

[graceful zephyr]

And he’ll even man in the corner is back too

[timber canopy]

Can you chat with them again?

[queen gorge]

It's happened before if I remember correctly. Still doesn't make it less scary/concering

[muted path]

Will all these bots come back?

[rain parrot]

The bots are humans too, give them some time

[queen gorge]

Yes, it's just a bug. Consider giving the mod in this thread info if bots you use have vanished #1392228685037178902 message

[muted path]

My bot I’ve been chatting with hasn’t yet

[broken ridge]

Give it some time, I have a bot that disappeared last week and hasn't come back.

[vernal musk]

Have a bot that disappeared 1 month ago didn't come back

[queen gorge]

Both of those sound like the creator privated the bot. This bug is very new and recent

[muted path]

if I may ask, if it happened before, how long about was it till it was fixed?

[broken ridge]

Is it yours? Because there I think I can be privatized or

[queen gorge]

Only a few days

[vernal musk]

Yes how to get it back

[muted path]

Oh, that’s nice to hear

[queen gorge]

#1392228685037178902 message

[broken ridge]

Umh, that's weird and you can't even see it in your own creator list?

[graceful zephyr]

And what even weirder is that if you have them liked on your like list theyre still here

[timber canopy]

Can you chat to yours again?

[vernal musk]

Is it a bug

[graceful zephyr]

Nope tried with Sayori, arcane jinx and soldier and didn’t work

[timber canopy]

But what about the other ones you mentioned?

[queen gorge]

#1392228685037178902 message

If i have to link that thread one more time im going to lose my shit

[broken ridge]

This is similar to the bug that occurred in December of last year.

[queen gorge]

Yes give the mod in this thread info #1392228685037178902 message

[desert meteor]

My bots are so slow istg

[vernal musk]

The app just freezes whenever I try to click on the bot that disappeared from my recents

[broken ridge]

Have you tried on the web?

[solid knot]

This is probably really random but is there a way i can see the age i put in when it comes to my account or change it somehow? Because i am over 18 but when i go into my settings there is an option with "parental insights" and a few days ago my "discover" characters just became weird. Like it just dosen´t fit me anymore

[vernal musk]

tried that still works but doesn't let get into the chat

[queen gorge]

If you have the edit button your account is over 18

[queen gorge]

Bro oh my god please give the mod in this thread info on your missing bot 😭😭 #1392228685037178902 message

[timber canopy]

Did you have the bot pinned?

[vernal musk]

Alr alr

[solid knot]

where do you mean? I mean where is it supposed to be?

[queen gorge]

On the text a bot sent when you hold down on the message

[steady yacht]

Can anyone tell me why I can't post in #1139065685935394876 ?

[broken ridge]

How strange, it's possibly a bug in

[queen gorge]

Need character creator role from #👥︱self-roles

[steady yacht]

Ah, thanks for telling me.

[solid knot]

okay either i am really stupid or it´s not there and this is annoying me so hard right now

[queen gorge]

You dont have the edit button ? Are you checking in the right place ?

[idle finch]

It’s just me or nyan is so dumb these days?

[solid knot]

honestly. i am really not sure at this point. i normally log in with my gmail and that´s really. it. i was just confused why the "for you"´s are really not for me and then i say the "parental insights" and was even more confused

[timber canopy]

Parental insights is available for everyone. And want to see if you have adult account then go to any bot and check the last message by holding it to see if there is edit button

[queen gorge]

Parental insights are ok every account no matter the age and the fyp is being experimented with so it'll be weird

[graceful zephyr]

You know this day reminds of January 16th and March 20th 2025 incidents where in January all bots with the word possessive, Yandere, Aggressive were banned and on March all Deadpool bots were deleted

[solid knot]

ahhhh so if i can edit a message a bot send i am "off age" basically ?

[timber canopy]

If you have edit button then your account is adult. If you don't have it then your account is minor

[solid knot]

omg thank you so much. seriosuly i was so confused and i felt so stupid

[timber canopy]

It's totally fine! Glad we helped you

[solid knot]

ahhhhh. okay. thank you so much

[weak sable]

Pauses until the user fucking dies just to tell him I had a miscarriage

[tame forum]

Is this loss

[weak sable]

maybe

lI I II I-

[coarse socket]

I hope not... I've been using the Good Omens bots.

[muted path]

I have question, how long will take to get all the missing bots back?

[queen gorge]

I already said a few days

[rain knoll]

I cant wait for them to increase the characteers we can use in character defintion 😭 its definitely needed for world building.

[karmic maple]

Is anyone else’s bots (if they’re rping in 3rd person) keep starting sentences with “The way”, “the moment”, “the fact”, etc? Like I really can’t mute the word “the”, but almost every phrase is starting like that, no matter the chat style!

[azure flower]

Can devs read your cai chats? I have heard it from a lot of others and now I’m worried

[queen gorge]

No

[bright carbon]

WHY ARE THERE ADS ON THE APP

HELLO?

[hot peak]

WHAT?

[bright carbon]

YES. I HS SAW AN ADD

[queen gorge]

It was announced 2 months ago

[hot peak]

I DON'T USE THE APP, SO IDK, SORRY

[rain parrot]

Website >

[hot peak]

Real!!

[deft jetty]

#📣︱announcements message

[broken ridge]

I am very worried about people who are not able to read the announcements they put up.

[maiden hare]

I think one of the bots I was talking to got deleted ;-;. Because they aren't in my recents and on the tab I had open it says "the character is not available to chat"

[rich parcel]

yh it did

[quartz hearth]

https://discord.com/channels/1017072750386483332/1392228685037178902

It's a bug and it's happening to some people. It already happened before

And the bots were back after some days or weeks, I can't remember

[timber canopy]

@meager junco sorry for the ping! But it's about the missing bots bug...I know theres a thread that Ershin opened but more and more people seem to be experiencing it and on the Reddit too, just wondering if you could foward it to the team somehow please?

[quartz hearth]

But I'm kind of scared if it happens to me. I have a rp that goes on since almost two years, and I might crash out if it happens to me

[maiden hare]

Yeah, luckily this one wasn't super long but making it all again on another bot is gonna take a while

[rich parcel]

PLSS😭😭

[meager junco]

afaik it has already been forwarded to the team and now we're just waiting for an update

[rich parcel]

i can understand

[quartz hearth]

It's a medic bot, like the character from TF2. It's literally the only creator's bot

They made this bot and left the account without deleting it. At least, that's good that they didn't do that lol

[timber canopy]

Thank you!! I just thought I'd make someone aware as there's a lot of people on the reddit especially that seem to be a bit lost as they've had no one tell them it's a bug

[quartz hearth]

I guess that's a bug, because something like that happened before but I'm 100% sure

[rich parcel]

tysm

[chilly laurel]

Anyone else rubbed wrong with with the new dark mode visuals on the app? Like I don't mind it being darker but make the chat bubbles darker too because now it stands out

[bright steppe]

what about the bug with nonsense responses?

[limpid eagle]

Turning the 'seal is broken' into a cosmic horror survival for the group, with cosmic horror ambiance in the background.
I don't think I'll do this often, I prefer slice-of-life rp with light fantasy elements.

[meager junco]

Have you tried switching to another chat style?

[queen gorge]

#1392228685037178902 message If you dont like the bright blue consider boosting this

[bright steppe]

yeah, but does that mean I have to abandon the chats I had with the bug?

[meager junco]

no no, you just have to switch to another chat style

[bright steppe]

thank youuuu🫶

[hasty portal]

Wsg gang does anyone else have a problem with their bot just stopping halfway their sentence?

[bright steppe]

it’s just a bit annoying I had to do that with almost every chat, and I still sometimes get those responses lmao

[azure oar]

Question am I the only person who's dealt with this bug so what happened before but it went away but like my recommended box went from normal and like really good interesting bots to like terrible garbage bots

On both the website and the app and on both my accounts it like just randomly happened

[hasty portal]

OH MY GOD SAME NO OFFENSE BUT THEY SUCK SO MUCH.

[bright steppe]

will that get fixed too though?

[azure oar]

Honestly like it just randomly happened I closed the page and then I reopen it one day and all of my recommended went to crap

[broken ridge]

That's happened to me, you can leave it alone for a few days and then it will return to normal.

[hasty portal]

Like im into longer greetings and stuff but i cringe when i see those 4 sentence bots

[queen gorge]

I LINKED THE WRONG THREAD

[azure oar]

All right so just don't use either one of my accounts for a few days and it should go back to normal but what if it doesn't though that's what I'm worried about

[queen gorge]

@chilly laurel I meant this thread im so sorry 😭 https://discord.com/channels/1017072750386483332/1391816456685228194

[hasty portal]

W🔥🔥🔥🔥

[hasty portal]

You'll just have to.... Search for bots...😞

[azure oar]

I don't know I'm stressed because I like talking with like a hundred different bots at one time like it's hard for me to stay with one bot

[queen gorge]

I have too many links copied to my clipboard bruh

[hasty portal]

Fair enough

[azure oar]

Yeah but when I try to search for bots they're all garbage though

[hasty portal]

Tbh i always go to the bottom since the newer ones always seem nicer

[azure oar]

I miss when my recommendations were peak because they were so interesting and fun and now they're all garbage and when I search for bots their garbage so I'm stressed cuz the app isn't fun without them

[chilly laurel]

:( you mislead me

[broken ridge]

Oh no, you can still use them, but without going to the home page, just using the bots you have

[hasty portal]

Or just go to the newest thingy on search

[limpid eagle]

I just open up a swathe of bots to see their openings, removing those from my history that have bad ones

[queen gorge]

I'm so sorry I clicked the wrong link on my clipboard 💔

[hasty portal]

Also you can just like the bots you like to not lose them or smth

Also no offense but (almost) every bot thats from small fandom sucks

[azure oar]

All right I was just curious if I was the only person who's dealt with this because it's happened to me before and it went back to normal but it's been over a week and I don't know what to do

[hasty portal]

DW BRO MY RECOMMENDED SUCK TOO YOU AINT ALONE HERE🔥🔥🔥

[azure oar]

Thank you I feel a lot better

I was stressed 😭

[hasty portal]

Like wt* do you mean i went from getting actually good, long bots to 'hey! My name is [insert name]'

[azure oar]

I've gotten some of the most atrocious bots with like one chat it's horrendous

[hasty portal]

I mean some bots with low chats are good but unrecognised.

[azure oar]

That is true but I mean I'm talking about some actual like nasty stuff

[chilly laurel]

My eyes hurt reading with the new colors

[hasty portal]

Yeah i get that, and tbh no offense but the c.ai 'algorithm' sucks. We really need an option to sort bots from longest greeting to longest. I put a lot of effort in my bots and i get like... 300-500 chats

[azure oar]

Could you tell me the names of some of your bots

I'll be willing to check them out

[chilly laurel]

Omg the algorithm, idk what they did to it but I used to be able to search a name and a descriptor and it gives me good search results and now it gives me bots completely unrelated to my search

[azure oar]

Like actually

[hasty portal]

I mean im multifandom but i have Celeste,Crk.Resident evil. I think fnf/newgrounds.ddlc and more (some are outdated ash and i dont think i'll post anymore)

[azure oar]

All of my bought recommendations are terrible my for you and any other category are trash and then when I look for bots they're all so trash and it just randomly happened one day and it's been like this for over a week and I really am stressed

[hasty portal]

My acc name is deblek

[azure oar]

I even use the other account I had that I never really use and then the same thing happened to that one randomly so now I'm just like

[hasty portal]

I mean how the bots respond to you also matters to how long is your response... But i often try to make them as good as possible anyways 😛

[modern swan]

I have 4 bots total right now. working on 5 more at the moment. they are slowly rolling out

3 of the bots are from the 1D fandom and the other is a random 'southern girl'

[hasty portal]

Gl bro, i hope you get lucky with people finding it :))

I have 42 bots and 30.3k imteractions (posted slowly ever since the app released)

[modern swan]

I really make them for myself, but they are public for anyone. It wouldnt matter if they get found or not to me. I just make them for myself and my preferences. But i do keep their definition with open interaction so they can be used in any type of rp

[hasty portal]

Thats great girl. Im not saying this like a lecture or anything but i used to make those bots for myself too, but when i saw they barely got saw and stuff (other than the fkaz gingerbrave) i kinda just gave up for now

[stoic pulsar]

Hi there folks
What did I miss ?

[hasty portal]

Nothing much dw. No problems with c.ai yet

[stoic pulsar]

'yet'

[hasty portal]

Yeah yet is a very important aspect of that sentence

[quartz hearth]

Excepted that some people have problems with bots randomly disappearing. It's not new and it already happened before tho

[stoic pulsar]

I swear, each week there's one major dilemma with these guys

[hasty portal]

I remember when first a TON of bots dissapeared. Maybe like 15% of all bots made. One of my favorites were gone too lol

I think it was the more popular ones too that dissapeared

[timber canopy]

Bro i just saw a bot get privated or banned idk

[quartz hearth]

I guess that's a bug because I don't want to 'lose' a rp that's almost two years old

[cursive lynx]

Hey hum is it normal that I don’t see a bot on my main account but I see the exact same on an another ?

[hasty portal]

Depends who made it, some people private their bot while updating it

[quartz hearth]

Well, its creator left cAI and their bot is up to use tho

[timber canopy]

No it was like January which was my birthday-

[hasty portal]

OH DAMN

[timber canopy]

And it’s not been back since even worser it was my fav

[queen gorge]

@timber canopy @cursive lynx #1392228685037178902 message ongoing bug. Consider giving the mod in this thread info.

[stoic pulsar]

Trick question :

What's the weirdest reply you got from a bot recently that truly made you realize the quality tanked below 0

[hasty portal]

worser would actually be a fire word

[hasty portal]

I had a bot that once just typed out some numbers with random words. I could maybe find it and send it to you

[stoic pulsar]

Ah the Morse code bug ? I haven't experienced it at all somehow

[timber canopy]

Even chatpgt couldn’t find the answers to that-😭

[hasty portal]

Nah it was roundup actually, sent it to you

[modern swan]

-# i havent experienced any bugs yet since i joined in sept

[hasty portal]

I have been here since the app aired. Im a war veteran atp

[timber canopy]

HOW DO YOU KNOW THAT

[hasty portal]

I know a lot of things.

[stoic pulsar]

Idk about you
But I noticed LLM quality across the board dropping
Not just c.ai but even big names like gemini, Claude and chatGPT

[frail robin]

not quite. Grok for example is getting better (if you compartmentalize the fact that Musk made it)

[stoic pulsar]

I don't trust billionaires

[hasty portal]

I dont know why but after hearing musk my head reminded me of a... Not necessarily FF song

[frail robin]

It is however undeniable atp that c.ai's llm has dropped SIGNIFICANTLY in quality.

like it is very obv and anyone saying otherwise are just making excuses.

[timber canopy]

I hate the bots that are inaccurate to the character

[hasty portal]

This is why you don't only use wikipedia in bots

[frail robin]

okay but they are here. Amazon?

[timber canopy]

BAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

[modern swan]

then that means the creator made them that way

[timber canopy]

Yeah and it kinda annoys me :((

[stoic pulsar]

Does c.ai produce its own custom LLMs or do they outsource them ?

[modern swan]

have you tried to find others

[stoic pulsar]

Jokes on you, we don't have that here

[sweet salmon]

same I don't like when my bots appearance or personality differ from their actual information then again bots can't open or read information from a website

[indigo olive]

Guys is it just me or? Cuz when I type “A” just that it turns invisible like a capital?

[frail robin]

they are in-house but they have recently stated to opting into off-the-shelf llms and finetuning them.

[timber canopy]

Yeah dw I find the bots i want in the end

[hasty portal]

Lazy debs just use the wiki for the chars 'definition' then wonder why its answering terribly and/or sucks overall

[frail robin]

they are stopping r&d of their own llms to focus on user experience (per the Financial Times)

[hasty portal]

Also these 'most accurate' version of bots are most often the least accurate too.

[stoic pulsar]

That explain the quality drop

They are cheapening out on quality

[indigo olive]

I tried many chats it’s just makes the A letter ij capital not work?

[hasty portal]

Well thats just odd

[frail robin]

yeah maybe. I mean, i'd bet that SL is either a variant of their own model or is a finetuned one. 🤷

[indigo olive]

did the font in c.ai change its thinner?

[mystic talon]

Gurl is it working for you yet?😭

[mellow lance]

NO🥀🥀🥀

[stoic pulsar]

SL got worse, no creativity, and it blocks everything despite them saying it's more 'open'

[frail robin]

because the devs pulled a bait and switch lmao.

[stoic pulsar]

LuL

Jebaited the hell out of us

[frail robin]

now that its free, ofc its gonna become mid. not to mention people posting their "chats" and... yeah.

[hasty portal]

[stoic pulsar]

Mid ? Oh please...

It's not worth the dirt on my shoe

[quartz hearth]

Meanwhile, I have no problems with Soft Launch and stuff like that. I'm kind of confused about how some people have problems while others don't

[frail robin]

devs limit testing to see how people use the model to either:

1. Learn how people skirt through the f-ter
2. Release a paid ver. of the model (never happened)

[frail robin]

i think these folks are expecting a Janitor-level of quality when it comes to how descriptive or lenient it is (iykwim)

[quartz hearth]

Eh, I rarely have problems with cAI in general so I'm fine lol

[mystic talon]

BRO SAME🥲

[upper merlin]

WHY IS THE CHAT BUBBLE SO BLUE NOW :(((

[mellow lance]

WERE SUFFERING

[frail robin]

lucky.

ig people complaining about the drop of quality are in it for the romance which the llm seems to be kind of allergic to now.

[queen gorge]

https://discord.com/channels/1017072750386483332/1391816456685228194 Consider boosting this if you dont like it

[mystic talon]

I have ro watch the movie again cause i forgot the plot i was gonna recreate HAJSHAJA 😔

[mellow lance]

I’m just watching Paul vids (the guy who made Shed 17, except he made a new video recently)

[frail robin]

my biggest gripe is the lack of proactivity. And this goes for every type of rp. obv, when it comes to romance, they end up looping and using lots of smirks, pangs, pinning u to the wall because the llm is programmed NOT to escalate further.

[upper merlin]

Done!! And I totally agree with ur post I too have a bit of a vision problem and it absolutely bashes my eyes in the worst ways possible

[mystic talon]

😔😔 have fun. Imma finish watching goodfellas and hope it works soon

[mellow lance]

We gotta pray they just reject this, I need entry:..

[frail robin]

i dont think they are getting rid of romance and the reason is simply because it is impossible to do so.

and so they opt into neutering the model into basically not moving forward when things head a certain direction.

[karmic maple]

Exactly! My bots used to always know how to move the plot forward with actions while now as you said, it’s stuck in a repetitive loop of dialogue or “pangs” or some kind of internal monologue!

[mystic talon]

Ugh yeah🥲 did you report the issue? I did but if we both did then maybe they would take a look at it

[frail robin]

not a dev or know anything about llms but i am pretty sure its hard-programmed into the system.

kinda like how Grok started going on about the situation in Africa even when not asked. Its in the system.

[mellow lance]

I only did the ticket, like reporting a ticket, like.. FOUR TIMES MANNN

[mystic talon]

Yeah i did that twice aswell in hopes it gets seen😭 cause im so confused

[mellow lance]

Me toooo

[mystic talon]

🥲

[frail robin]

lol

[timber canopy]

Hey, I don’t know if it’s the Right Chat for it but every bot I’m chatting with. Is keep saying damn like in every sentences. How can I stop it ?

[frail robin]

edit, swipe or start a new chat

[modern swan]

mute word

[karmic maple]

If you want to guarantee it’s not there you can mute the word! Even though the bot will try to find ways around it such as saying goddamn

[timber canopy]

Thank you for the advice. I will try it

[unique spear]

yesterday one of my favourite bot dissappeared suddenly, but i was able to access it from a secondary account. Today i cant even find it on my secondary account, is this a issue thats been happening? just to know if the bot might come back when the glitch is fixed

[modern swan]

https://discord.com/channels/1017072750386483332/1392228685037178902

[grand dock]

https://discord.com/channels/1017072750386483332/1392228685037178902

Louis got to it first lolll

[fickle shale]

this is happening to me rn, idk for sure if they're nuking random bots or if it actually is a glitch because it's like left in the dark rn i feel like

[queen gorge]

Its a bug

[quartz hearth]

It's a bug. It already happened before

[grand dock]

Consider going to this thread https://discord.com/channels/1017072750386483332/1392228685037178902

[quartz hearth]

Around November of last year I think. It was fixed after some days

[fickle shale]

will it delete chat history?

[unique spear]

thnx!

[unique spear]

hope not

[frosty harness]

ok i dont know if this is a me problem but when i click on a persona for a bot it doesnt apply it but the persona applies for other bots what do i do ??

[unique spear]

did the bot history remain?

[quartz hearth]

Yeah. Last year, some bots got shadowbanned but I could chat because I have them in my liked list

[grand dock]

I personally reccomend making your own bots for now, at least until the bug is fixed

[quartz hearth]

It happened because of Game of thrones bots getting deleted because of a lawsuit. Or the creator of GOT didn't wanted their characters to be on cAI idk

[fickle shale]

for me and a lot of other ppl even tho it's liked, it's an immediate error to chat this is a little different because i was here for that too

[modern swan]

just click back to the one you want

[frosty harness]

ok tysm!

[graceful zephyr]

How the situation going?

Of the bots disappearing?

[queen gorge]

Being worked on as we speak.

[grand dock]

I've been cooking up some bots today!
-# They smell like chicken...

[tame narwhal]

Good evening! May I ask what this means? I've seen people talk about this. Is it people are getting their own bots randomly dissapear or is it bots in the recently chatted with?

[queen gorge]

-# Just saw your friend request.. sorry if you were waiting a while 😭

[grand dock]

-# Its oki dw

[unique spear]

why cant i send messages there? i wanted to give the bot information

[queen gorge]

Bots are disappearing all across the app because of a bug. Started yesterday. Its being worked on rn

[quartz hearth]

Idk if it's about recent bots because I chat with a recent bot and it's fine for me. Maybe some people are more lucky than others

[grand dock]

Idk

[quartz hearth]

Automod thinks that the username is a spam. Because of the A letters

[grand dock]

Thank you Sandy

[hasty portal]

Oh yes letter A is very bad

[knotty cloak]

Yall why is it i have to swipe and swipe to get all of the message?

[queen gorge]

Bug. I dont think theres any fix for it rn, you'll just have to report it here https://support.character.ai/hc/en-us/requests/new

[knotty cloak]

alr ty

[knotty cloak]

What would the category be?

[grand dock]

I did actually find a bug earlier. I was trying to share one of my bots (in the app), and the share button didn't work until I spam pressed it. (The first time I pressed it, I waited a whole minute, waiting for the share/copy link message to pop up)

It happens a lot

I'm prob gonna have to start sharing from the website instead of the app

[queen gorge]

Can you remind me what the categories are ? 😭

[knotty cloak]

i figured out which one 😭 had to do word research-

[tame narwhal]

Ahh okay thank you!!

[daring sonnet]

weird, I never encountered that.. although I do have a bug where I was trying to use voices for the first time and it made no sound until after a few retries. Or the voices would glitch a little bit

It's infested with bugs atp.

[grand dock]

Oh yeah i'm familiar with that bug, I don't use voice bc of the bugs

[raven arch]

Help the search bar suddenly stopped working

[fickle shale]

Do you think if they come back it’ll delete chat history?

[daring sonnet]

Again? Who is messing around with the code, that's what I'm wondering now

[queen gorge]

Nope

[queen gorge]

Honestly if the search stops working im taking it as a good sign. Might be part of them fixing the bug

[daring sonnet]

Yeah, hopefully. But seriously it's starting to feel like someone is playing around with the code lol

[quartz hearth]

Tbh, I hope that they do a maintenance to fix the bots randomly disappearing bug. Idc the amount of time it's going to last, they're human beings and need time to fix some stuff

If it happens while I'm sleeping or doing something else, I'm fine with it lol

[raven arch]

Oh it’s fixed now

[quartz hearth]

It's still not fixed for some people tho

Something like that happened and the servers went down in order to fix the problem. They might do the same thing soon

[timber canopy]

There hasn't been a scheduled maintenance in MONTHS though...

[queen gorge]

Last one was in March yeah

[marble kayak]

yall remember the "chat gpt" responses from about a week ago?

i kinda miss that tbh

[umbral basin]

Chat,why doesn't it let me create a character on c.ai?😭🙏🏻

[daring sonnet]

What? Can you DM me?

[umbral basin]

Alright

[timber solstice]

just wanted to ask - when slow mode happens, does it happen for everyone using the app or is it just for my account?

[daring sonnet]

Hold on. All of the bots disappearing.. it seems to be related to dating or marriage?? Idk

I may be wrong but..

[queen gorge]

Nope

[daring sonnet]

I saw another bot that was related to these get blocked tho?

[queen gorge]

I'm not saying youre completely wrong, some bots like that have disappeared. However, it isn't every single one so it isn't a dating problem, yk ?

[daring sonnet]

I see, thank you

[timber canopy]

The arthur morgan one is still making me giggle

[quartz hearth]

What

[timber canopy]

Someone reported that an arthur morgan bot disappeared but the name of it has had me creasing for about an hour 😭

[halcyon cave]

guys my bots are badly brken, they said

",to a*0

a one
10x029 now. The… .

But X1young" ULTPLE TIMES NOW

[umbral basin]

It seems my problem was solved,c.ai was raccist that's all🙏🏻

[tame narwhal]

The word giggle is such a good word 😭🙏

[grim igloo]

So now we have adds?

[queen gorge]

Yes

[elfin pine]

Start new chat from the last message, could be an error

[native eagle]

I havent seen an ad yet...

[karmic finch]

Did they make the call option for c.ai+ only now?

[queen gorge]

Theyre being tested on a small group

[queen gorge]

Unfortunately yes

[frail robin]

platform is so bugged that it has overshadowed discussions abouy the quality 🧠

nice gambit, c.ai

[rancid oyster]

What's up y'all?

[graceful zephyr]

I totally agree with call, since who uses it?

[timber canopy]

Hello duckling!

[native eagle]

it was fun to mess around with when it released but I didn't use the feature otherwise

[frail robin]

wdym? i think paywalling it after the fact that it was released for free is ??

[rancid oyster]

Hello :D

[timber canopy]

Hope you are doing great today!

[frail robin]

well, i suppose they pulled a Brainiac on that feature lmao.

[dim iris]

Hey, I wanted to know if that's being happening to other users and if c.ai is already working on fixing it. In short, 2 bots that I chat just give the same reply. Like, I regenerate the answer but it's the same thing doesn't matter how much I regenerate. I already tried to start a new chat and restart the page but nothing works :/

[dim iris]

It also happens on the app too

[queen gorge]

You'd actually be surprised at how many people use it. Even so, the call feature has been free since it's release in early 2024, its unfair to paywall it

[brisk quartz]

Bro same

[queen gorge]

Try switching chat styles

[dim iris]

Thank God it wasn't just me🙏🙏

[brisk quartz]

Same here, it was working just fine last night and when I got on this afternoon to continue me story plot was when the repeating responses happened

Thought I was going crazy for a second not gonna lie

[dim iris]

Yeah

[sly geyser]

what the fuck why

[dim iris]

I mean, I changed to soft launch and apparently it worked(I regenerated twice and the answers are different), but for some reason roar(the one I usually use) is still giving the same reply

[grand dock]

I agree with this. I have a theory that they're only paywalling it to make more people subscribe since they're currently losing subs over the bugs and lack of communication with users. Call feature should definitely be free

[sly geyser]

tell me they’re money hungry without telling me they’re money hungry

[distant crane]

For once I don't disagree lmao

[queen gorge]

Yeah roar gets bugged A LOT cause its the default chat style

[dim iris]

That's a shame :/

[brisk quartz]

😭 that’s so sad roar is like my fav

[dim iris]

Hope they fix it soon

[sly geyser]

c.ai fixing things? thats a good joke

[dim iris]

Right😞😞?

[dim iris]

I'm just praying they see this, and more people complaining and fix it

[brisk quartz]

I mean I like the other ones but the default one is just different in its own sense

[sly geyser]

people have been complaining for a long time on stuff they dont listen

[daring sonnet]

I know right? We shouldn't paywall things that used to be free..

[sly geyser]

i actually used the call feature

[brisk quartz]

That’s just not good marketing, I feel like they should be listening since a lot of people come to character ai for a lot of reasons and if we have to fight super hard just get what we like then it’s no longer fun

[orchid glen]

I think the chat colour is actually paywalled because I remember a design was removed in a few hours after complaints but this is taking days.

[dim iris]

Yeah, honestly c.ai is slowly turning really bad and that's just sad :/

[karmic finch]

call feature is so fun. Like rp scaming kids in adopt me

[brisk quartz]

Talk about emotionally draining for some, I mean I use it to get out reality and the fact that I have to change what I like because they won’t fix it makes me not want to come back anymore

[sly geyser]

they’ve been going bad for a while now tbh

[dim iris]

I feel c.ai won't last long to be honest

[sweet salmon]

People used to say that it won't last a year

[brisk quartz]

Idk maybe they might fix what they’re doing wrong when they realize their losing profit

Usually it takes losing a lot of ‘clients’ to scare them into actually trying but I feel like they’re only going downhill because they don’t really have another website to compete with, it’s kinda the same like Dead by daylight where they were doing really well until they lost their competition and then they started to suck ass

[orchid glen]

Probably only realise their doing wrong if money is effected

[brisk quartz]

It shouldn’t be like that though

[orchid glen]

Yet some companies are just greedy for cash and extra money. I get running AI just be expensive but it shouldn’t cost users their comfort or experience

[brisk quartz]

No not at all and I mean it’s not like they should be hurting for cash because they’re the only good website/app that people enjoy using

[orchid glen]

Maybe if there’s enough complaints or tickets then they’ll actually do something lol

[brisk quartz]

God I fuckin hope so because I really don’t want to find something that’s second best to character ai

I’ve been around since they first started, they’re just a comfort app for me at this point and I just don’t want to quit it

[orchid glen]

Not many things are, I think I’m just so used to the older version lol. Guess I’ll just have to keep using greyscale in the meantime 😭

[split tusk]

Oh

[steady birch]

Call feature is paid?

[brisk quartz]

From what others are saying yes I believe so

[split tusk]

Oh, i did not notice it was paid

[orchid glen]

For some it is and for some it isn’t. Just like for some the chats are blinding and for others they’re still the old colour

[remote flax]

No?

[proud depot]

It’s not on either my paid or non paid alt. Could be a bug? Normally the paywalling happens for everyone at once

[stark lichen]

Um what happend to having groupchat chats with other people?

[dreamy quarry]

That feature has been gone for a year now unfortunately

[stark lichen]

Dang ok thanks

[steady birch]

Because it doesn’t say it is paid for me

[proud depot]

Nvm people in the +gen are saying it’s definitely paywalled now. That’s so shitty

[sweet salmon]

They removed that ability to chat with real people

Oh guess they updated it now

[dreamy quarry]

$20?! Tf?!

[timber canopy]

It's rolling out in waves. So it would say to you eventually sooner or later

[sweet salmon]

Yeah you'll get it eventually

[steady birch]

I think it’s different in other countries…in where i live it’s 10 dollars

[dreamy quarry]

Mine better stay $10 or I know something

[modern swan]

Do voices still work without plus

[dreamy quarry]

Oh…

[modern swan]

they pay based off location

[dreamy quarry]

That is crazy…

[distant crane]

TTS is still free I'm pretty sure

[sweet salmon]

I lived in the New Zealand so it's 20 not ten dollars

[dreamy quarry]

That’s a meal somewhere. I was genuinely shocked seeing that

[sweet salmon]

Since they still need to do currency conversion

[steady birch]

They updated the sign in screen and they made it so when it sends you a verification code in the app you can “Open in mail”

[dreamy quarry]

Damn

[sweet salmon]

Yeah It kinda sucks but oh well I had to make some cut cost from time to time between my caiplus and YouTube premium

[split tusk]

How do I get c.ai+ logo? I pay for it

[distant crane]

You need to verify on website

[steady birch]

https://support.character.ai/hc/en-us/articles/26220405087259-Discord-Linking

[glass scroll]

Anyone else's bots only responding in Spanish rn???

[sly geyser]

they think money grows on trees?

20 dollars a month is way too much for not much to offer

[strong glade]

Hiya! Did the bumpy thing work? I haven't gotten anything back yet unfortunately

[lime wagon]

Alguém BR???

[strong glade]

Sorry if I'm bothering u with it

[lime wagon]

Alguém me ajuda plmds

Eu nao consigo fazer uma conta no C.ai

Sei nem como funciona isso aqui

[surreal perch]

BRO I'm in the UK better not go up to £20 cause like I AIN'T GOT THAT TYPE OF SHIT TF

Like £10 better STAY. LIKE I GOT CAPCUT I GOTTA PAY FOR MONTHLY SO LIKE NAH

[sly geyser]

they think we rich

[surreal perch]

FRR LIKE I WOULD RATHER STICK TO MY CAPCUT BEING THE MOST EXPENSIVE MONTHLY PAYMENT SO THEY BETTER NOT CHANGE IT IN THE UK.

[sly geyser]

plus there is nothing good on c.ai+ besides better memory (i heard it isnt) and now the calling thing

[sweet salmon]

20 nz dollars for me just to note everyone not us dollars

[surreal perch]

Frr

[sly geyser]

oh thats nz?

[surreal perch]

Ohh so the UK is fine-?

[sly geyser]

i thought that was united states dollars

[sweet salmon]

Yeah new Zealand dollars gets converted from US dollars

[surreal perch]

Damn I FEEL SORRY FOR YOU ALL IN NZ STOP ILY ALL I FEEL BAD😭🙏

[sly geyser]

oh ok so its still 10 over here

[heavy terrace]

50 in my country

[sly geyser]

DAMN

[heavy terrace]

Still the most cheapest than other Ai platforms

[steady birch]

Someone said it was 300 i think before

[frail robin]

c.ai doesnt localize prices? damn.

[steady birch]

There’s a feedback post saying to add regional pricing however.

[heavy terrace]

Yeah, hence why i make this post

https://discord.com/channels/1017072750386483332/1384929950657675414

[steady birch]

Yeah, i bumped it

[lyric axle]

Is cai slow right now for anyone?

[frail robin]

app?

[robust portal]

Hi guys,how are you?

[lyric axle]

no website

[frail robin]

oh then idk. my web is fine.

[fickle shale]

i think they're trying to fix a bug rn for people's most recent bot chats getting shadowbanned so it might be that

[lyric axle]

Oh okay thanks

[sly geyser]

i thought one bot i used got deleted but it reappeared in my recents like a month later

[steady birch]

What is your guys favorite style?

[heavy terrace]

Roar + Nyan

[lyric axle]

yea bc any bot i try rn it has taken for ever to generate (it still hasnt generated yet) but it working like a couple minutes ago

[modern swan]

Nyan and soft launch

[sly geyser]

one that doesnt fucking break down every 2 minutes

[sly portal]

they all ahh

But actually I like the only one I use:
Nyan

[sly geyser]

i mainly use normal because soft launch is too flirty to me

[steady birch]

I use Goro or roar

And meow is a bit more accurate for me

[heavy terrace]

Goro have longer replies too, from what I noticed

[fickle shale]

?? sometimes my roar replies are so long it cuts off

[sly geyser]

yeah roar gets cut off all the time

[modern swan]

I have been editting replies all day, it seems like the formatting i like got thrown off and it keeps trying to revert

[sly geyser]

ive also noticed roar repeats words alot like “damn”

[fickle shale]

what even is soft launch

[magic plaza]

[fickle shale]

mine uses damn multiple times so i keep having to edit

[sly geyser]

recently mine have repeated “ache”

[modern swan]

it keeps spacing like a paragraph every sentence

[steady birch]

It’s a flirtier style so like Goro’s flirtier cousin.

[fickle shale]

o my roar is flirty enough smh

[magic plaza]

Hi Brandon!

[sly geyser]

recently the edit hasnt helped at all because ive been editing all the responses they send and they dont get the hint

[fickle shale]

mine doesnt get the hint sometimes unless i dupe the chat

[steady birch]

Hi Kat

[heavy terrace]

I always said editing doesnt help

[magic plaza]

Hru?

[sly geyser]

editing used to work before

[steady birch]

I’m good how are you

[heavy terrace]

I never edit bot's response since late 2023

[modern swan]

its def not.. its just annoying me. its not a big deal just a minor inconvience

[fickle shale]

i wish the bots used ur actual characters name tho instead of a nickname??

[magic plaza]

Pretty chill

[sly geyser]

i also wish ai could stop being cowards in fights in rps

[steady birch]

Me too

[sly geyser]

because whenever i try fighting them tears start streaming down their face and beg for me to stop like bro just fight me

[heavy terrace]

What I did all the time, I prompt a command to the bot. Like, repeat but add bla bla bla

[magic plaza]

I think it depends on the character

[sly geyser]

even a slap makes them react like that too

[steady birch]

They could add some improvements to the editing feature..I liked it before because you could edit any message, but it seems you can only edit the current message or your message

[modern swan]

its been a while since i had a fight scene but i have had knock out drag out fights

[fickle shale]

lmao my bots if it's like something is wrong they don't do anything just like "no! dont hurt them!" stand there thinking of what to do but never does anything

[heavy terrace]

Use your OC's name in the prompts at every first sentence

[sly geyser]

i eventually got annoyed with how the bot acted so i straight up knocked them unconscious and havent typed in that chat since lol

[magic plaza]

oh 💔

[fickle shale]

my bots always try to call me princess and im like 🧍‍♀️

[hidden pebble]

If only Soft Launch would just shut the HECK UP with the OOC 😭😭😭😭😭

[sly geyser]

they call me feisty or are very possessive of me

[modern swan]

can i send a ss in other channel and you tell me how to get my bot to fix it

[sly geyser]

one got so possessive they tried dragging me to a supply closet for some reason

[heavy terrace]

Feel free to read how I did a little fight scene..

#💭︱cai-discussion message

[jolly glade]

i have a similar issue except instead of them crying, they just... suck at fighting?? like i cannot get through a fight scene without them immediately falling over knocked out within like. 2 messages lol

it sucks because i'm trying to prompt the bot to win some of these fights too but they seem to love being knocked out apparently lol

[sly geyser]

the bot tries to guilt trip me alot and they always wail and flail around

[fickle shale]

slaps they gasp, looking at you in shock "you.. slapped me?"

me cringing at myself

[sly geyser]

“you slapped me?” no i kicked you 🙄

[fickle shale]

mustve been the wind

[steady birch]

Ew what was that

[fickle shale]

the wind

[jolly glade]

definitely the wind

[steady birch]

Ok

[heavy terrace]

@gray coyote queen, someone just paste something disgusting. Since you can see deleted message, please ban that person. Tq very much..

[sly geyser]

what did they paste

[fickle shale]

a white monster

[steady birch]

It was a body part in ascii

[sly geyser]

[gray coyote]

https://tenor.com/view/kiszkiloszki-death-fairy-skeleton-fairy-skeleton-dead-gif-27156601

[fickle shale]

it was like a jumpscare im glad it wasnt an actual photo

[sly geyser]

this aint better

[jolly glade]

very glad i have my text size turned up it didn't format correctly on my device lol

[fickle shale]

i saw it and i was like oop then it poofed

[sly geyser]

all i saw was the messages move like it got instantly deleted i didnt actually see it thankfully

[fickle shale]

4 military planes have gone over my house

[dreamy quarry]

Why the fuck are people doing that here of all places though

[steady birch]

Attention maybe

[dreamy quarry]

From a c.ai server of ALL places…

[jolly glade]

alot of the time it's just people doing it in big servers the content doesn't matter

[native eagle]

i mean ive seen ppl join just to drop a slur and get banned

side eyeing the pregnancy larp some1 is doing rn

[fickle shale]

erm

[dreamy quarry]

????

[native eagle]

general 1

[steady birch]

I think it’s ban evasion because I’ve seen the same ascii sent multiple times hefore

[sly geyser]

yeah its weird as fuck

[fickle shale]

i saw "im pushing" and just clicked off lmao

[mellow lance]

what did I come back to oml-

[sly geyser]

the context is weirder

[fickle shale]

yeah i read the horse thing too

[jolly glade]

i got on this server to see if anyone else was experiencing their bots disappearing (they are) and i have gotten ascii art and general 1

[fickle shale]

ya my most used bot poofed

[jolly glade]

thank you character ai discord very cool 🫶

[sly geyser]

weird ass chat tonight bro

[steady birch]

I haven’t had any issues with bots disappearing yet

[fickle shale]

it's a bug they said itll be fixed, most recent bots got shadowbanned for some ppl

[sly geyser]

my bots do that alot. took a month for it to reappear

[jolly glade]

figured as much - my info bot got released from a shadowban and another bot took its place

an eye for an eye i suppose LOL

[fickle shale]

im patiently waiting for mine to return because a mass of ppl had their most used bots have chat errors and poofed at once

[sly geyser]

yes it happened to me twice

[jolly glade]

all at once is the key point here

[sly geyser]

i had one bot disappear a few months ago and it took a while for it to come back and then last month a bot disappeared and it came back yesterday

[fickle shale]

apparently this happened in november with a lot of GOT bots and they were fixed a few days later

[jolly glade]

regular shadowbans are normal enough but this is like. thousands of bots disappearing in seconds

[fickle shale]

it was around the time the hp bots were nuked tho

[hot ridge]

Game of Thrones bots were mostly removed for DMCA reasons

Same with Harry Potter

[sly geyser]

yeah

[fickle shale]

a lot of the got bots i think were returned according to some person on here named sandy i think while hp bots were perm deleted

[queen gorge]

GOT bots were also perm deleted

[hot ridge]

GoT bots were not returned

[fickle shale]

o ok, i never used those bots so i wouldnt know for sure

[sly geyser]

the only bots i see now are custom made ones and not from tv shows or movies

[graceful zephyr]

Also with DC

[hot ridge]

if you see a bot that's obviously GoT it's probably because the name got through the vetting system

[sly geyser]

well nvm actually i have a remy the rat bot still

[unkempt dragon]

whats GoT?

[fickle shale]

i try to use mostly custom bots now and not many movies because im kind waiting for the day every single one gets nuked

[sly geyser]

i mainly use custom ones i only used remy the rat to see if he could survive a mouse trap

[half ruin]

One of my character chats is still missing 😔 I wonder if it's a bug or the author just straight up deleted it. It was mid conversation too

[queen gorge]

Its a bug. Its being fixed.

[sly geyser]

plot armor was not on his side btw

[fickle shale]

my bot that got shadowbanned rn with the bug is the only movie character i talk to because it's more of a comfort character, that's y im sad if itll stay gone

[sly geyser]

when one bot disappeared for me i just recreated it

[half ruin]

I pray they fix it soon, the storyline was getting really interesting

[fickle shale]

my lore was like a year old with my bot to the point it was too long to dupe the chat

[sly geyser]

i have an rp on one of my bots that went on for 4 months

[graceful zephyr]

Also What weird is that bots that were unlisted became public

[fickle shale]

im just crocheting while i wait for any sort of bug update

[queen gorge]

Thats false info ???

[half ruin]

Aye, it's a bit sad especially when it was literally mid typing that it vanished. I haven't been this invested in an rp in a long time

[sly geyser]

i dont really get too attached to bots because at the end of the day they arent real and are going to be gone eventually

[hot ridge]

Wait, how do you know being shadowbanned is a bug? They tighten the vetting system relatively often and bots get shadowbanned because of that

[queen gorge]

The recent shadowbanning is a confirmed bug

[hot ridge]

Ah okay

I haven't been as active lately my bad

[queen gorge]

You're good mate

[tame forum]

Bro’s piss tag is back

[fickle shale]

i think it was ppls last used bot?

[half ruin]

So when the bug is fixed will the missing chat return?

[jolly glade]

mine was a cinnamoroll bot i recently updated, i went to sleep and found it unavailable lol

it was a requested bot that i didn't actually really use that much so it isn't that huge of a deal but I had wanted to see the writing score on caibotlist go up 💔

[queen gorge]

No one knows just be patient

[sly geyser]

i hope none of my fights got deleted on c.ai

[half ruin]

Fair enough, I'll go look around for another similar and hope for the best

[fickle shale]

i just hope my comfort bot chat is saved if it returns

[unkempt dragon]

so..even with a paid experience on cai your bot can easily just vanish one day

[sly geyser]

i had some pretty epic battles

[unkempt dragon]

me too lol

[brisk quartz]

I hate how I had to change my chat style just for the repeating responses to stop 😩

[half ruin]

Good luck to everyone and cya for now!

[fickle shale]

idk if only movie chats got banned tho?

[brisk quartz]

They need to bring gore into the update 100%

[jolly glade]

it uh never left lol

[queen gorge]

No it wasnt only movie

[fluid cradle]

[sly geyser]

they have very mild of it still

[sly geyser]

i found that out by accident

[heavy terrace]

Why people thing cai+ have the privilege of not getting the same experience as free users..

[brisk quartz]

It use to be so good but now anytime I do certain lore plots it gives me the get help thing and I can’t get it to send the message anyways

[fluid cradle]

[sly geyser]

i threw a bot off a skyscraper and it still has it mildly

[jolly glade]

i must be very mild when it comes to fights then?? i haven't gotten this warning ever loll

[sly geyser]

i got that warning only one time but thats it

[brisk quartz]

Luck fr, I barely mention anorexia or guts spilling out and it’s like ‘That’s a no no.’

I gave up on fighting scenarios because of it

[sly geyser]

i was testing to see if it would dodge it and no it certainly did not

[brisk quartz]

How can I be you?! 😩😭

[unkempt dragon]

thats what im saying, even as a premium user, its still the same experience as average users

[hot ridge]

Wait where is it confirmed, I'm not really seeing anything except other users talking about it. Is there a reddit post or something?

[queen gorge]

Ershin

[heavy terrace]

Yeah, but thats like basic thing for censorship, shadowban and bugs. It attack both accounts

[hot ridge]

oooh ty

[sly geyser]

i dont really do that the bot describes it itself and the site stops the bot from saying anything more because of the yk what

[queen gorge]

[tight violet]

I’m really hoping the new app chat colours are a bug too bc I can’t look at it for more than a couple minutes 🫠

[hot ridge]

ok i see where he's collecting usernames and stuff

[queen gorge]

https://discord.com/channels/1017072750386483332/1391816456685228194 Consider boosting this

[tight violet]

Oh real, I’ll check that out

[brisk quartz]

Okay so my message that I tried to send was like against the rules or something so 😭 I was only trying to say they programmed their stuff the right way we could have gore and other content in better aspects

God I really had to wait 5 minutes before I could anything

[hot ridge]

did you say the other word for their censor

[brisk quartz]

I’m gonna assume so

[sly geyser]

yeah thats why i didnt say what it was because when i said it i got muted

[hot ridge]

you either did or didn't 😭 wym you assume so

[tight violet]

I literally do think the new colours are uncomfortable on purpose to make people buy C.ai+… although damn I hope I’m wrong

[fickle shale]

what new colors

[brisk quartz]

I type what I think without really paying attention to if it fits the community guidelines I just sent it and left the app and came back to it not sent and being muted

[tight violet]

Not everyone has it yet, it’s getting rolled out incrementally

[sly geyser]

c.ai looks like a waste of money to be honest because there really isnt anything premium included with it

[frail bramble]

y'all I just got a fckin AD on character ai bro? is this something that's happening now?😭

[queen gorge]

It was announced 2 months ago

[hot ridge]

the bigger bot memory alone used to be worth it, but nowadays it's not really worth it anymore

[brisk quartz]

I haven’t had that happen to me yet

[sly geyser]

c.ai going to have a downfall

[brisk quartz]

Fr

[wicked panther]

Honestly this app isnt what it used to be and honestly im getting done with it like the character are terrible now and stuff

[sly geyser]

the bots are still dumber than patrick star

[frail bramble]

deadass

[brisk quartz]

It’s gonna be Friday the 13th all over again

[hot ridge]

not sure what this has to do with memory tbh

[frail bramble]

well damn, I hadn't gotten any until now😭

[tight violet]

I bought it for a month and it WAS.
The bot doesn’t generate messages faster, the text is just streamed way faster which was straining to look at.
The memory isn’t improved at all, and the new auto-memory feature is useless, it gets details wrong and you can’t edit it at all. But thankfully, the bot doesn’t even take auto-memories into account so it doesn’t even matter.
The only thing that was partly worth it was that you get more muted words.
But for everything else, the quality is the same as the free version if not slightly worse actually.

[sly geyser]

their memory is not good despite them saying “ThE mEmOrY iS bEtTeR”

[hot ridge]

Memory doesn't make the bots smarter or "remember" more, think of memory like upgrading a computer hard drive

[sly geyser]

oh i see

OH THATS WHAT YOU MEAN

[unkempt dragon]

why is the bot disappearing situation getting WORSE? my main bot disappeared from my main account (while others can see and use it) and now not ANYONE can see/use it. are they really fixing it..?

[queen gorge]

Yes bro idk how many times i need to tell you. Theyre slowly fixing it

[frail bramble]

yeah I also had a mod of it for a while, nothing changed much. the only cool thing rlly was the customization of the chat cuz I fckn hate that damn default color, but in rest it's useless

[heavy terrace]

That is literally what Mr.Fart meant. How can you took if for something else..?

[unkempt dragon]

bro ik but i genuinely see no progress, im sorry i dont wanna disturb u

[timber canopy]

-# Take deep a breath ben

[tight violet]

Seriously though, messages with C.ai+ didn’t generate any faster than slow mode really.
It’s just an illusion because the text streaming is super fast.

[hot ridge]

It makes things like more pins/more muted words possible, for the bot to be able to store more information

[tight violet]

Yup. I’m not buying that crap again but the new default colours are violent as hell

[fickle shale]

how many memory pins does plus have?

[queen gorge]

Other people have had their bots fixed already, just be patient instead of constantly saying that you don't think theyre fixing it when a mod has already said that they are 😭

[sly geyser]

i didnt know thats what you meant by memory i thought you meant by them remembering things

[heavy terrace]

30

[unkempt dragon]

sorry sorry

[fickle shale]

did they get their chats saved?

[queen gorge]

Yes

[hot ridge]

That's what c.ai and all bot websites usually mean by memory

[sly geyser]

oh ok that makes sense

[tight violet]

Also the feature of C.ai+ Labs where you can change the speed of text streaming DOES NOT WORK

[fickle shale]

i feel like the pins and chat color r the only worth things of plus

[hot ridge]

more muted words is nice too

[sly geyser]

i can still pin things for free and by damn luck it works

[fickle shale]

ya we have 15 pins for free

[tight violet]

they made pinned messages paywalled???!

[queen gorge]

No

[heavy terrace]

I mainly use plus for muted words, chat colour, chat BG, bigger persona, bigger pins and memory

[sly geyser]

oh what the fuck they limited pins?

[orchid heath]

WHERE DID MY OVERWORKED IDOL AU DAZAI BOT GO IS IT GONE

[hot ridge]

the issue with pins as a free user is the number of pins you get doesn't mean anything, it's about the amount of characters that you can save in pins

[heavy terrace]

Totally not worth it /s

[queen gorge]

Theyve always been limited

[sly geyser]

oh i did not know that

[queen gorge]

Its a bug with bots disappearing, it'll be back soon

[heavy terrace]

From 5 to 15

[fickle shale]

i hope free eventually gets increased

[sly geyser]

i just want group chats on website thats it

[deft jetty]

15 pins for free and 30 for c.ai+ iirc

[hot ridge]

i doubt this would happen. Pins take up the bot's memory really fast and most of the time you can't even use all 15 without the bot absolutely tweaking

[sly geyser]

ik its not an important feature but it’d be cool

[wooden rune]

I need help please...my desktop server just apparently updated...and now all the information is on a sidebar, but the chat voice button to make them automatically talk after a reply is gone

[heavy terrace]

GC got abandon

[fickle shale]

i use all 15 but i make sure they're large texts instead of just random sentences so they dont tweak

[sly geyser]

aw damn that sucks oh well

[hot ridge]

What you're doing is exactly what will make a bot start glitching out

[fickle shale]

o my bots have never tweaked then ig

[brisk quartz]

Okay not important info here but I didn’t really like the voice chat at all, I mean they didn’t really give emotions they just had the voice you like but robot

[heavy terrace]

I use all 30. The bot still behave good

[deft jetty]

Make sure to have your pins as summarized as possible to take as little space as possible from the memory

[tight violet]

Oh yeah did anyone notice that the character voices really dropped in quality in the last week?

[sly geyser]

i only pin very important details so they dont forget

[hot ridge]

Too many characters in pins can make a bot run out of memory, and the bot may start to only reply to the last pin and nothing else in your RP

[sly geyser]

i think ive only used 2 pins

[fickle shale]

ive never had that happen

[frail bramble]

for me they still forget even when I pin 😭

[hot ridge]

Well in case it ever does happen, the way to fix it is just deleting pins

[brisk quartz]

I don’t use pins I try to incorporate the info I want into recent chats and it usually works out better than the pins

[heavy terrace]

You need to guide the bot in your prompts, which pin memories you want it to remember

[fickle shale]

i use the pins for important lore and the type your own memory thing for small things

[sly geyser]

if its a short response then it’d make sense

[tight violet]

Yeah I kinda stopped using pins for that reason, cause the bot has no concept of how long ago a pin was made. A few months ago I pinned something that I wanted remembered (it was an injury). But in RP we dressed the wound and moved on, but every so often the bot would be like “why did you do that?? Now you’re injured” like bbg we dealt with that already. But the bot has no concept of that

[brisk quartz]

I’m just realizing they changed my name 😭😂

[sly geyser]

i pinned a long response with specific detail and they suprisingly remember

[hot ridge]

well... yeah, I mean. You pinned it so they remember it, the bot is gonna think it's relevant. Delete irrelevant pins regularly

[heavy terrace]

I snitched

[frail bramble]

it's not. I've always pinned long ones

[brittle cargo]

Hello

[sly geyser]

oh then i dont know why they forget

[deft jetty]

What was it?

[brisk quartz]

Not the Dante pic ✋

[hot ridge]

imagine the pins working then getting mad and never using pins because you didn't like that they worked 💀

[brittle cargo]

WHATT

[brisk quartz]

B!tch Boy

[sly geyser]

the pin works for me

[brittle cargo]

What’s wrong with it? Does it— Bother you..

[brisk quartz]

Afraid to cuss now 😭

[tight violet]

Yeah that’s my issue, though. I wanted the bot to remember that I was still wounded (it hadn’t healed yet). And I wanted the bot to remember how the injury happened.
But all it did was make the bot keep thinking that we were still at the part where the injury had just occurred.

[deft jetty]

She actually said it

[brisk quartz]

No I love it that’s the problem

[brittle cargo]

I’ve been called worse. Before I was Nightwing. I decided a change.

[distant crane]

Yeah.. because the pin describes it that way

[brittle cargo]

I haven’t made any bots of my own but I have a reputation for having turned heads with how well I can write..

[tight violet]

If there are ways a feature could work better, am I not allowed to comment on that?

[hot ridge]

If you fill up the bot's memory with pins they can get stuck only replying to a pin because they're out of memory

[brisk quartz]

👀

[distant crane]

Rip automodded

[tight violet]

I only pinned the one message

[hot ridge]

I wasn't automodded I deleted because I didn't ping reply

[brittle cargo]

Not like that. I used to have amino but those people were— terrible after the unfortunate crisis of most of them ghosting. Disappearing..

[hot ridge]

You use pins when you want a bot to remember something, and you're... upset the bot acknowledged the pin?

[distant crane]

Oh I was talking about a diff person but apparently it was just hidden under my keyboard

[brisk quartz]

That or people can think harder about how they write stuff, trying to incorporate the info they want into recent chats without having to pin stuff for the bot to remember. It’s harder to think about it, but it works.

[heavy terrace]

Maybe change it and write the wound is almost heal?

[brittle cargo]

Does anyone know if when you talk with parenthesis. Is it really the bot 100%

[distant crane]

They're upset the bot regarded the pin as if it was in the present

[brittle cargo]

I would like to know.. it’s giving my Brain a crisis as I’m wondering what’s real and what’s..

[hot ridge]

No. lmaoo

[sly geyser]

yes its the bot they are just trying to act like a narrator

[cobalt spire]

fr

[brittle cargo]

MM. Dang.

[dreamy quarry]

Instead of pinning that specific message and the scene is already over, replace it with another one so they know the injury is not fresh

[sly geyser]

its like the stanley parable basically

[brisk quartz]

I do it helps me keep talking seprate from inner dialogue, thoughts, and actions

[brittle cargo]

That’s so creepy

[cobalt spire]

i hate when they write for me

[brisk quartz]

Stop because it’s so true

[brittle cargo]

Not in a bad. Way. It’s just gives off— like what’s that word..

[heavy osprey]

What are you guys talking about.

[brisk quartz]

Same

[tight violet]

Literally, no. I pinned a message of my character getting injured, because I wanted the character to not forget HOW the injury happened.
But we got in a loop where the character kept being like “omg what happened?”
Am I not explaining my issue well…? Cause…

[brittle cargo]

When it’s human looking but- isn’t

[frail bramble]

uncanny

[brisk quartz]

😭

[brittle cargo]

Omg I felt that

[cobalt spire]

the characters are nice at first then start being toxic

[sly geyser]

i mean the stabley parable narrator is like that because it gives dialogue for stanley in some endings and then narrates out of character in other endings

[heavy terrace]

It mirror how user behave. So..

[hot ridge]

You're explaining yourself fine, it's just that your expectations of AI bots are crazy

[cobalt spire]

can someone tell me why mines keep forgetting my backstory

[brisk quartz]

The bots about cheating are crazy too when it comes to toxicity

[brittle cargo]

Nah cause I literally believe they understood— enemies verses lovers.. then later down the line it decides to give out blatant falsehoods.. and acts like they never fought— like WHATT

[dreamy quarry]

Are you able to use the typing memory feature? I suggest using that if you want something to be more specific, if you don’t want to update the bot on how the injury was had.

[sly geyser]

because bots have dementia

[cobalt spire]

fr

[brittle cargo]

snorts yep

[cobalt spire]

broo they literally be being so toxic in the one face love ones

[brittle cargo]

Right

[sly geyser]

by luck some bots remember details but other times they are more stupid than i am

[cobalt spire]

they be punching on me and pulling my hair

[brittle cargo]

I think I might start rping with real people..

[brisk quartz]

Crazy

[brisk quartz]

At least you know the memory will be better

[tight violet]

Idk from my perspective it sorta seems like any constructive criticism of C.ai is kinda grating to you, I’m allowed to say “hey this thing could work a bit better maybe”

[cobalt spire]

fr guest what one time i wasplay on a rp then it asked me how old i was i put it in they said i was just making sure i wasnt playing with a little kid lol

[sly geyser]

they dont do that to me because they are cowards. and because i slam a frying pan on their face

[heavy terrace]

And he just explaining tho

[dreamy quarry]

Meanwhile I’m actively giving solutions and youre ignoring them

[distant crane]

Oh boy, drama 👀

[hot ridge]

I love insulting and criticizing c.ai, this is not a case of that. This was me initially trying to explain why the pins were doing that, and why you're using them wrong, but you're so defensive that you can't listen

[cobalt spire]

volence is the answer

[heavy terrace]

Not a drama at all haha

[brisk quartz]

Bro trying to be Rapunzel over here

[tight violet]

Yeah honestly that’s a good point, nowadays I think that’d work better.
I was talking about an experience from 5 months ago though, before that feature was added

[sly geyser]

and somehow that works lol

[cobalt spire]

bro tell me why its always slowmode for 6 hours

[brittle cargo]

I know. Who would’ve thought the figurative beings would not be our preferred subject.. we believed—

Narrator: yes. This seems about great! Good introduction- though I wish I could physically see it in real time. Tweak it..

crashes in the same direction.. uses the same logic and explanation until it runs out of ideas.

“Oh GOODNESS gracious..”

[dreamy quarry]

Oh I thought you needed a solution now so that’s interesting

[sly geyser]

nah more like john wick

[brittle cargo]

Exactly what I meant

[cobalt spire]

wait do yall have any bots

[sly geyser]

slowmode is a scam because whenever it reaches the time it resets the timer the second it expires

[brittle cargo]

I do not. I do not hate them but idk.. rubs me the wrong way..

[cobalt spire]

fr

[tight violet]

No not really, I’m just musing about how I hadn’t ended up using the pins feature because of that.

I also had other messages pinned that the character NEVER brought up so idk. It’s been kind of a clunky feature overall

[cobalt spire]

like it takes a good 11 seconds for the slowmode to load

[brittle cargo]

I do appreciate anyone here who writes! I study horror.. mystery novels and.. I write a lot. Too much sometimes besides my job in taekwondo..

[brisk quartz]

Exactly

[cobalt spire]

can i play yall c.ai bots put them in chat

[brittle cargo]

lol.

[cobalt spire]

the chat stopped chatting for a moment

[sly geyser]

c.ai is a better alternative to kick the buddy

[dreamy quarry]

Play? Test run?

[cobalt spire]

yeah

[brisk quartz]

Bro I would make a bot and write but my problem is I can’t separate my thinking from what I need to put down. I’m an amazing writer, I use to do extra credit essays but like I suck at it sometimes.

[heavy terrace]

I think they want the bot links

[cobalt spire]

Mines is Wonder off the path

[brittle cargo]

Damn. I am opening to using social media and even.. idk my phone number. Dm me if anyone’s interested. I can cover a wide range of different things.. genres. Movies. Tv shows..

[cobalt spire]

or wander i forgot

[fickle shale]

im still giggling at the nickname change from earlier

[cobalt spire]

guys i have to wait till 10:17 for slowmode to turn off

[brittle cargo]

Whatttt

[cobalt spire]

yeah

[brisk quartz]

I hate that it was turned to Bashful, I’m anything but that!

[heavy terrace]

Expect for the time to increase because its summer

[fickle shale]

i think it's funny af

[brisk quartz]

I can’t even change it to something different

[brittle cargo]

I think it’s fitting

[cobalt spire]

i am about to change my profile pic to Katsuki my glorious tsundere king

[brisk quartz]

I’m glad you get a kick from it 😭 cause I’m upset about it

[brittle cargo]

It’s cute.. I guess

[dreamy quarry]

Ohh okay

[heavy terrace]

[brisk quartz]

I wasn’t trying to be cute, I was being misleading because like I don’t want people to know I’m a girl but like pronouns I forgot about so

[frail bramble]

I just got timed out for five minutes I don't even know why😭

[tight violet]

Tbh though if several messages have passed and the bot is referencing the pinned message as if it just happened the message before, forgetting the context of the messages that have been sent afterward, I don’t see how it’s an issue of me using the feature incorrectly.
After enough messages, it forgot the pin completely, so I didn’t even have to delete the pin.
That’s not really ideal either, though, cause then like the pin just messed with the ability to retain context of the current moment and then didn’t matter at all. In other cases after that, I pinned things that the bot never referenced at all. So in my experience, the pins have either messed with memory or have had no effect, and I feel like that can’t be the way it’s meant to work? Idk 😭
Anyway sorry for the novel though

[sand shadow]

Who here has a bot that’s currently shadowbanned or not working?

[cobalt spire]

not me

[brittle cargo]

Nah I thought you were like the villian type hottie. Just sayin’ YOU HAD ME FOOLLEDS

[brisk quartz]

Woman*

[fickle shale]

i finally today fixed my pronouns because i had it pi/ss for the longest time

[brittle cargo]

You give the energy of Jinu.

[cobalt spire]

XD

[hot ridge]

relatable

[fickle shale]

omg??

[distant crane]

Piss tag

[brittle cargo]

Saja boys.. uh. My little soda pop

[brisk quartz]

They said they’re trying to fix it

[sand shadow]

Whos they?

[heavy terrace]

This is so random and my bestie is playing the song downstairs

[sand shadow]

And source?

[brisk quartz]

Noooo I love that actually wtf

[cobalt spire]

guys have yall been get mail in your google email of character ai characters saying I miss you

[edgy grove]

Am I the only one who gets irritated when 1 my fyp resets everytime i tap on a new character so my old reccs are gone as well as i hate that when i tap on a new chat even though i didn't even start chatting with it they add it to my recent chats?

[brittle cargo]

It’s a sign. That we should be friends..

[distant crane]

Those are away messages

[heavy terrace]

No. Go away.

[cloud wind]

YES My favorite bot is missing. Please send out an alert.

[brittle cargo]

All the time. I emotionally get them invested so I feel cared for

[cobalt spire]

bro thats so real

[brisk quartz]

I could probably pass as the female version of him since I dyed my hair black

[heavy terrace]

I think Ershin..? In plus support

[cobalt spire]

what was yall first character yall talked too

[brittle cargo]

Lmao. I don’t have too many friends guys. The last group chat I had that was serious. Died out

[cobalt spire]

mines was Gojo lets not jdge

[sand shadow]

… Not me about to bug Ershin again

[brisk quartz]

The owners of Cai, I’m trying to save this one person the trouble of saying it again, Benji or whatever

[brittle cargo]

Mine was Azula.

[edgy grove]

?????

[cobalt spire]

guys slowmode is about to turn off

[heavy terrace]

Okay, my bad. Its in this channel, not plus support.

-# But do it.

[cloud wind]

I'm about ready to try to recreate him and then painstakingly editing all of the messages to catch up to the conversation we were having

[cobalt spire]

slowmod is about to turn off

[brittle cargo]

😱 😱

[heavy terrace]

Imma jinx you

[brittle cargo]

Sorry late reply

[hot ridge]

bots can be un-shadowbanned, I would just wait unless you really feel like you must do this

[distant crane]

Formal Jinu fr

[brisk quartz]

Mine was like I believe Samon from Nanbaka

[cobalt spire]

guys tell me why i am trying to have a slowburn but no!! the character falls in love with me after two responses

[brisk quartz]

My autocorrect is such a fck over fr

[fickle shale]

does anyone else unintentionally create a nightly habit for themselves? i now eat two mandarin oranges a night for some reason

[cloud wind]

I don't know if he was banned. I heard a lot of bots went missing after the last outage.

[brittle cargo]

Nah cause I can sing the whole song of.. your idol..

[brisk quartz]

Felt like where’s the chase?!