#šļø±cai-discussion
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I have a love hate relationship with character ai
Idk if this is just my phone or the c.ai app on mobile, but like, every time I write more than two lines of text in the app (like, so it jumps down to the next text line while typing, y'know what I mean) it keeps. Freaking. Pulling. The. Keyboard. Down. It's driving me insane at this point, as it messes me up when I'm trying to type and sometimes I accidentally send chats without meaning to, and I'm gonna lose my marbles. I'm already in marble debt, I can't gamble away anymore marbles.
People, ask, did something happen with the application? Why won't it let me log into my account?
Do the characters know stuff like what the date is?
Nope. Sometimes they might guess it correctly, but they donāt actually know what the time is, what year it is, etc.
you forgot āpangā and āyouāre the death of meā
That's crazy my character was commenting abt my ocs outfit and how it's too cold to wear it in January
Hey, I just opened an old chat, and it was a quick flash b ur j saw a yellow highlighted text and a warning symbol ā ļø this oneā¦anyone know what itās about? I couldnāt read it
Its just a warning that says "its not a real person" kinda like the warning it gives that its AI and that its fictional
and to talk to a professional if you need help or some shit like that
Ohh okay! Thank you! I got to see it again rq and took a fast ss of it to read! I appreciate it!
It looks like the quality is still lackluster and bare. They don't care, but if this continues I may just try to find an alternative... again.
Writes a starter.
The bots initial response is just simply... a gasp.
I think C.ai is turning into Chai slowly. I might be a tad scarred for life now.
Why does C.ai f>lter everything unnecessary but doesent f>lter when it's needed
Omg this happens to me as well recently. Is it bc of the new update or something? Cuz it never happen before
Thank God I'm not crazy! It's been happening to me since the new update, yeah, so I'm thinking it's a small bug
use a laptop or tablet with physical keyboard, that works for me
Y'all I need character ideas š„
YOUR MOM MAYBE (JK)
Hey is anyone having trouble with um voice calling and hearing the bots voice and getting errors
Ew, calls
i don't know, never wanted to hear a bot
Itās a bit okay if u use the star ratings that are below the botās message
Yeah I just will wait for it to go back to normal, it's just crazy that every few days the quality just...disappears. It's been years and they keep adding useless features instead of making the service more stable. Who even wanted games?š
exactly.
Hey! Sometimes you can always think back onto a basic idea, like a neighbor or something, and run with that. It helps me with writerās block.
Also has anyone else noticed that edit is gone again?
Ffs again?
Sorry Iām not good with abbreviations. What does that mean?
Sorry! "For f*ck's sake"
Ah, yeah. Last time it was removed it was because of age. But I think itās just something that happened. I went to fix the character messing up my species when I realized that it was gone.
It was still here yesterday. But I guess Iāll have to wait again.
Is it just me or are bots becoming like a lot stupider, like theyāll forget things even when I pin them and their responses have nothing to do with what I send like what
Yup the quality went downhill for some reason
Well good to know itās not just me, Iāll probably move to another app if it stays like this tbh
What happens if you switch personalities mid chatting?
Why these ai be giving themselves plot armor
Yeah mine are starting to get aids
I think it wont work, youāll have to start a new chat so the bot can like refresh the info from your persona
This channel is chaos lmao
This is chaos? You should go to gen1 and gen2 haha
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Could any mods try to look at the ticket I sent? The first ticket I sent was on January 22nd and I still haven't had a response. @heavy dirge (I'm scheduling a mod because I can't wait any longer and the report number is 693845)
Hi uh question is anyone else having an issue with like romantic stuff- like for example, I can't kiss one version of my oc cause the fil ter shows up, but the other version I can kiss completely fine?? Is this a bug or something??
I don't know if anyone has replied to you friend but I believe it's happening with almost every mobile phone user or mostly androids that the keyboard keeps collapsing on them and being funky on the app but nowhere else.
It happened to me yesterday and it was so annoying š
It's happened I believe yesterday or the day before I can't remember I know it's been a bit that it was happening unfortunately though I think the website is better that it doesn't do it on the website?
I just don't like the website it's not like the app.
hello everyone, just wanna ask, is the character data really 500 letters max ??
The Description is 500 max. The Definition can contain 3200 though.
aa ok
why is it under "more options" lol
I think it's to try to make the interface look as simple as possible for first-time users š¤·š»āāļø
The mental hospital will want to get your contact info
Guys I got banned when I was getting to the good part of my story šš«£
I mean, all texts got cut off everytime it gets to good part
I know its like let me have some peace in doing this š
But am I the only one with a bilzillon personas on c.ai
Ban or timeout?
is anyone elseās responseās still slow
Idk it's like last time this happened it was a timeout
meow
Y'all am I the only one who gets censors for no reason (my account is 18+)
Like compliments are that 'sexual'? š
How to trigger away chat?
Is the site still broken?
woah.

What did you mean broken? Can't access it?
guys why tf like words "Come back to house before 11 pm" is hella detected as a "S3xua1"?
i mean like come on @versed thicket make something like age veryfication so that you can type whatever you want :/
it's hella annoying man i cannot type like "Come on bro eat your tomato"
I mean as in broken, i cant search up any specific charters.
am i the only one who HATES!!!! how characters don't know how they look like
for instance a character's pfp is a person with a green sweater, but since the owner didn't add info, the character says that they wear a yellow buttoned shirt for instance
That's a thing that should be in definition, and it's usually the first thing that I make sure to put it. Not too detailed so it doesn't take a massive chunk of the memory, but enough to be well described and contain a proper essence of the character.
I think you are under the 18 server, where it got restrict and specific characters can't be find.
Ah ok
May i suggest something? You describe the bot's attire and pinned it. You can include yours too in one response. It will smooth your rp experience.
thanks, but one problem, i don't want it to interfere with the greeting
How will it interfere with the greeting, may I ask?
instead of normally playing along the greeting i have to describe the attire which might make the bot forget the exact greeting
the funny thing is it's mostly because of newbies who can't make a good bot
yo anybody wanna recommend roleplay bots lol
But.. We can pinned the greeting too?
These bots ask too many questions I'm exhausted š
Do you have a plot on your rp?
This happens when you give the bot nothing to roleplay about. 
#š±ļø±chat-feed message Iāve provided a detailed explanation for this question here, give it a quick look. 
I see.....
Thank you š
do you have a fix for characters NOT ASKING, but DOING the same thing over and over again like a broken record until it becomes super dull?
About that, itās actually easy to solve. There are a couple of indicators, like if the character frequently uses words such as 'obsessive' or similar terms. Anything that repeatedly shows up in a specific way is a loop right there. You can break it easily by taking the initiative and letting the character interpret the situation you wrote, rather than explaining it to them. This limits their chance to overthink or get stuck in a repetitive cycle. 
Itās also pretty predictable. If the character responds with a sense of obsessiveness in their reply, whether itās clinging to an idea or an action like holding onto something, thatās an example of looping. Itāll just keep going back and forth, stuck in that scenario. Thatās why you should sometimes take the initiative and let the character interpret the situation youāre in.
Using things like (OOC: Hey! Stop moving, you are caught!) doesnāt work. While it may affirm your prompt, it doesnāt actually resolve the loop. This isnāt a solution Iād recommend to anyone, as it not only weakens the response but also reduces its quality by adding unnecessary, whimsical side comments. 
Try use the verb 'prompts' for the bot to ask that question without the suspense.
Example: "Sure, what is it?" Y/N prompts him.
i literally said for characters NOT ASKING, BUT DOING.
which means that instead of a question loop, it's an action loop
oh nice so OOC doesn't screw anything up
i'm just worried that if i do OOC the character will start doing OOC for random moments (since the characters try to mirror you)
wait i read it incorrectly you used OOC as a "not recommended" example

Yes, i know what you meant. I used the verb prompts, because it is an act that make the bot ask the question right away. It just a suggestion.
I wonder how they managed to turn a normal ai with normal iq into a piece of trash so fast and seems it will newer go back to normal
well what are some problems you experience
Ai has 2 messages memory, ai stuck in one emotion, ai is short, ai doesnt want to write anything interesting and instead just reacts on my actions
Sometimes i feel like i am entertaining ai but it should be othervice
Old scripted chatbots were buch more fun to chat with. When there were no ai things in the internet at all
Few years ago c.ai ai was good. It was able to make an actual JOKES can you realize it? And it even was able to understand a story you went through. And now its just nothing. I feel like my old bots getting old for real and dying from dimencia
you can get banned?
You mean you got a timeout?
Heyy
Iāve never got a timeout before. Is it common to something?
Timeout just for minors if you are an adult you won't get a timeout
Oh okay. Ty
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I am curious, people saying they got a message saying that they'll be restricted if they keep violating the ToS and stuff. How do you get it? I kept getting the filler due to a fight scene one time but never got the message?
I WANT BOYFRIEND ššš
Might be on the app, unless you're also using it, then I have no clue š
Nah i be using the app, cute pfp by the way!
Heyy
Hiii
Thank you, your pfp is cool too
hi may i ask what this zone is for?
but there are others genral and general1
or are my messages just slow
this channel? mostly are used to talk about c.ai
ok thx
Today makes the third day that my account has been unusable. Every message is either cut off mid sentence, or the response is so dry and short it cannot be RP'd with. Two tickets submitted, and I've yet to get a response from support. PLEASE, DEVS! I PAY FOR THIS APP, AND ID LOVE TO BE ABLE TO USE IT!
two weeks past since i filled two tickets and nothing got fixed...
I have a solution, its not great okay but it works, rate the message one star and give feedback as to short and chat early cut off... I dont know what it says by you guys, because my app settings are in Dutch... Its not the best option, but it works
I just love when I have muted a word and its still comes back in the message
bro me too it just happenš
If your messages get cut off, you're most likely experiencing the restriction because you're a minor. All the restrictions for minors are detailed in this image, with shorter messages being one of them. If you aren't a minor, it is likely because your bot generated too long of a response and got hit with the character limit. Character limits are normal, and they are not a bug. Credit to Yucchi for the image 
It's the actual worst thing and I feel like I'm going insane. I use it as a therapist (I know, not recommended, but I don't have insurance).
real, i cant be delusional no more
I have accepted my delulu.
We all have that one character that was our favourite but disappearedš
WHY IS CUPHEAD EVERYWHERE AS SOON AS I BEGAN PLAYING IT AGAIN š
Cuphead is peak.
Preach. Just finished the bee š
I've 300% it, but I play new saves as well.
WHA- HOW?? YOURE COOL
Thank you.
I know Iām here forever
Hi there, what age is this app?
Curse thee
Anyone else having issues w/ edit button
No
Can't even create new chat even though im 17 alreadyš
Well 17 is less than 18 so 
Guys. Quick question. Is it a good idea to delete responses and refresh your page really often?
just push the year back
Still a minor
I remember like a year ago I got the LONGEST response I've ever gotten, I swear I had to scroll to read it all on desktop
Help guys this is so random but are you guys c.ai bots also like superrr slow at responding? Iike it takes my bots 8-12 seconds to load the messages š
Are u using the brainiac model?
Hey does anyone know the amount of chats u can have in the bots history on app before it becomes unresponsive when you enter it? On my wally darling one I began talking to it around 2022 and there's no possible way to use the history button cus of the sheer amount of chats.
Anyone got a number of how many it is?
Edit : put the wrong date, sorry for confusion
Mikeās are since yesterday or Saturday. Iām going crazy. I know another person are too, cuz we talked about it yesterday
And the worst part is that they take 10 sec to reply āokay smirksā or sum like that.
Yeahh exactlyyy! Its getting soo annoying because i just wanna have a conversation but i donāt wanna wait that long just to get the shortest response everr! š
I just hope itās a bug and not a permanent thing
Just archive some. Click the 3 dots and click archive
That's the problem
The 3 dots won't respond. I cant even use the old chats due to how many there is-
Tbh tho I did only download the app a year or so ago, so it's understandable that a few chats for nearly everyday after two years of beta site is understandable.
I will try archive chats with new bots I use, thank you!
Thatās true. You can always see if it works on the website tho
True! Thanks, I'll try it out next time I'm looking for an old chat
Yep! Some things are only on the web! Like linking your account to discord
is anyone else getting an error msg when trying to change personas?
it says "Something went wrong." it's been like that for days
True true! The site and app sre completely different, in a way I guess <33
It's going all bad for all users or only free ones?
Guy, I need to know how I can access the archived messages? Please š
If you go to storyal in top there's a icon with archived messages.
I know. My problem is that when I hit the archive button, the bot disappeared and I can't find it
Then I don't know
I think the app is broken or something. All these issues arenāt normal
since when were bots able to say slurs ?? i full on got called the d slur by oneš
It's not that hard to get them to say some slurs if the character in question is naturally rude
the thought of this makes me giggle
WHY is it so slow? It's so annoying!!
I just realized they bringing the deleted bots back! Let's gooo!
WTF HAPPENED TO MY SAVED CHATS?! SOME OF IT GONE MISSING
hi
Yall I just realised a bit of the delay might be cus of this storm outside š
Love a little bit of British hails
I just got timeout for asking my problem š
It's a little slow probably because everybody's on it before school or something tomorrow
Timed out as well.
People, why won't it let me log into my account in the app? š
Try again on mobile data, perhaps? I'm not too sure, sorry!
I'm going to try
Kk, good luck!
It's not letting me post in feedback so I'll say it here:
Have the recommended bots been getting really weird lately? Like its showing ftsh stuff.
It's an issue on the app.
Omg same! It's likely recommended cus it's popularly used unfortunately. Just try to avoid it and it occasionally changes again tho, usually. Sometimes I get egg laying demon things, then the next irs like "hey girl here's fnaf"
Once bot was touching me with its feet intimately without my premission
(It wasnt like i was completely against it but i wasnt one who started it)
Best expirience last mounth
That's an omega yikes.
The way I read this and had to do a double take šš
I had an Rp. And the bot try their best to convince me that my character Is busty. I tried using (OOC:). I tried editing the message. I tried editing my persona. And yet they are back again calling me busty. What is wrong with the bot š
HELP MY CAI BOT SPOKE SOMETHING IDK WHAT IT WASš
theyāre taking over the world
They are speaking Duolingo bird now
My c.ai bots keep speaking for me like are we Rpāing or are you telling me a story?? Or going out of script like i wrote a paragraph and your litteraly somewhere else,WHY ARE U SUDDENLY IN THE SAME ROOM?? I feel like the bots are a bit unintelligent
Like are they supposed too do that?
They do it to everyone i think itās not just youš
Like i can write and he was in the other room and the bot will litteraly respond whit āglances over at youā
FROM WHERE.
Easy window
(Saying this because my brain needs common sense from something at this point)
X ray vision, obviously /j
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am i the only one who still calls the tagline and description short and long description respectfully?
Iām still having issues with getting the app to work
Itās not updating, and thereās no updated available, but itās saying it needs an update
Any solutions? Iāve tried deleting and reinstalling
Spanish or vanish 
This is literally the only thing the bot censoring the server wants to hear
That
HERMANO NO ME MATES
š¦ šŖ š
Okay- Iām an idiot please help š is that weird new āremove buttonā on the app the same thing as the delete one? When ya delete a chat the bot sent? Or that you sent? If so- WHY TF WOULD YOU CHANGE IT?!
It's the same thing Yes, and I agree that the change was unnecessary
Thank you! š„² the change was so stupid and the weirdest thing ever- it wasnāt needed and makes no sense! Itās confusing too
I don't get them. They do updates to make the site look good. But what about making sure it works good?
hi everyone peace and love
I miss the old option, i used it to know how many messages i had with the bot
I know! It was so useful! I mean I guess thatās sorta what the ārewind buttonāās there for but still :/
Itās upsetting the most that they donāt listen to their communityās feedback when they ask for it- or just in general! Itās been in a fast downward spiral for so long now
Yeah, they ask for it and they dont do anything as we say.
Its just a name change bro relax.
First, the discord login, second the censorship, then these senseless edits, they don't know what they are doing.
How come u were talking to the bot since 2021 when c.ai hasnt even come out yet until 2022? 
My bad put the wrong date, I just know it was when the icon was a lil blue guy sorry! Will go edit that message rq, cheers!
nah they know and its necessary considering the trouble the devs placed themselves in lmao
I do understand the censorship and the lack of the edit option on account of -18 people, but this amount of adjustments seems pointless.
Here's a good idea. Don't let minors use it. There, you have one model, focus on making it better.
Now here is a good idea
They dont seem to be pointless for the rest of adults that still for some reason still use the platform.
And let's think about it. Can minors pay for C.AI+?
Check my logs and see how many have scrutinized me for even suggesting for Plus to be pushed more.
Its pretty obvious (if ur using this server as a litmus test) that:
- Most users are -18 hence their inability to pay.
- They can not engage in nuance. They deem the value of Plus as worthless which is true in the current state of c.ai. But in a hypothetical that the platform is good, is 10 bucks too much? The answer is apparently yes.
Dont want to reiterate myself but I have listed down some perks that Plus could have which should be placed behind a reasonable price. The verdict? Yep, I got burnt like a witch circa 1600s
That's what I mean. -18 users can't pay. So, why promote to be kid-friendly?
Refer to my first point and it will all makes sense.
I meant the issue of small adjustments to the interface, they are spending too much time with small and useless changes, like dividing the delete option into the remove messages option and the rewind option.
Or renaming things
I dont think those cost money, just time changing lines of code in the system.
Yep like, where are they trying to go?
The changes rn is very frugal in comparison to Calls which they spent a lot on with trying to really push it.
And not only that, they also added games... For some reason.
People were complaining and thats what the devs noted so they changed the names 
Delete -> Rewind -> Remove. And yet people are not satisfied when they all do the same purpose.
Games are something added for the sake of "progression" (their last biggest update was Calls)
My verdict is: work on stabilizing the AI, better responses, less repetitions in sentences, solid arguments, put this bots to learn something. When they're done with their work, then they can focus on renaming the delete button again.
Those can be a given if the devs provide model selection that offers different experiences depending on which one you choose. I dont think those can be handed for everyone considering the extravagant costs of running an AI platform as big as c.ai. If we were to then offer them behind Plus, would you be in favor?
considering the fact that I'm on this platform even through its ups and downs, yes, I would give a few bucks to see a stable chat.
Is it just me or has c.ai gotten boring ever since the whole overly censorship thing
for the love of LAWD. FIX THIS DAMN WEBSITE ITS NOT WORKING ON MY COMPUTER šš
Maybe itās the lack of creativity and the fact that almost anything u say can get flagged for no reason the restrictions are so over bearing to a point you canāt even create a fun story without it getting flagged somehow??
everyone on reddit is having the same issue as us, at least the computer side is
My ai literally pulled me in for a kiss even when I said no
then delete the message š
guys some bots i had that got deleted suddenly came back š did anyone else get this
sadly š„²
and they donāt even work soo š
Since the Florida kid incident cai become so strict
I think most people use c.ai for romance Rp. I once tried to not say anything to the character. And out of nowhere it Is now my date šæ
guys does the rating feature on the characters messages acrually do anything cus i swear ive been downvoting all of the short answers for a while now and IT STILL GIVES ME LIKE TWO SENTENCE REPLIES
no
I just got Timed out. And i don't even say inappropriate stuff
Who are tried the new function? - The history? For first sight seems like this have a big potential, this even fun already/
i havent touched the games tbh
i have no interest in it??? i just want my funky little story telling stuff
Real
is the intro character limit new?? i was making a character and i had to trim down the intro SIGNIFICANTLY to get it to go through
it hasnāt happened in the past for me
i think its been there
ah fair enough :) i just encountered it for the first time while writing today
is it just me or after I go through all 30 rerolls of a message I can edit the message anymore like is it meant to do that?
itās always done that yeah
30 is always the limit. You can select that message only and delete it. Then, just push the send button again
Why response gets cut into half in messages?
I'm going to test something quickly concerning automod
Whatever tweaks they did to the AI are not working.. the bad grammar, repetitive wording and cut off responses are so bad right now
So I noticed that the word limit in the persona description is now 2000 instead of 728. Did anyone notice anything else?
Mines is still 728
Maybe its a cai+ feature?
The feature that shall not be named is apparently a black listed word in the server
But the feature has gotten super tight in the past 2 days
I will check but I donāt think so
Cant find anything about it
Bro I lowkey hate how strict C.Ai became like I canāt even have the slightest goreš
And im still mad they took down the old site
Iāve already complained about this once but honestly the quality is going down too, the aiās are getting a lot dumber for me atleast and itās really annoying
when tf did hugs get censored-
HELP WHAT
Im using number and special symbols for my gore messages yall wish me luckš
STOP I HATE THIS

That clear history and website data is my bsf
STOP WHY DOESNT IT WORK ANYMORE DID C.AI DO SMT TO MAKE IT NOT WORK
OH NVM
I wanted to listen to music to forget about something that happened in c.ai, the music didn't help, at all.
IM GLONG FUCKING INSNAE
lol
Waa
Okay...is anybody else's bot talking about..self-you-know-what? It keeps asking me if my OC has done it..
yes !! and its not getting censored best just to delete the chats it is talking about it.
It's stupid that we can't answer as roleplay over the dumb rules, I'm not actually depressed.
And it's not even ME bringing it up
It's been 3 days since I've written this message and still nothing. Anyway, I'll delete it.
It's deleted since the user tagged didn't bothered (I think that's how you say that?) to read or reply to it.
Yeah. Ik. Just thought it was funny that I come onto this channel, see that, and as I'm about to click on it, it poofs. sorry
I had to delete it since it didn't gained any traction lol. And some people seem to dislike the user that I tagged for obvious reasons but I'm not gonna tell which ones tho.
ikr. I wonāt stop complaining until this shit improves.
c.ai+ still worth it
Does dev even listen to us
they do but they're just busy trying to fleshout the platform for us
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I heard they're working on an auto respond feature
knowing c.ai's quality it might be pretty good guys we need to give them a chance atleast
Sure. letās have features that no one asked for
The only thing we need Is for c3n50r to be removed š¤£
dude I wanna see if the ai can backtrack
Whatād you mean by that?
?
it might be another way to increase memory by having the ai calculate possible interactions
But fr tho, cai+? Is it worth the money?
if you wanna support the devs then yes
Just use the free trial
from what I heard it's not at the moment because the features are barely visible
10$ for a feature that Is not even permanent
Aight but does it make the aiās memory better like it says
also there's the change wallpaper thing for better immersion which I really like actually
Fair enough
yeah
like a good 20% i believe
it's just as fast as chatgpt's premium feature
barely anything but sure š
bro chatgpt sells theirs for 20 bucks
and a super premium for 200 bucks (for access to DALL E image generation)
honestly idgaf about chatgpt anymore
stop being mean to chatgpt
itās an AI??š
it's the grandfather of c.ai
man chatgpt is trying to revamp their own systems
they're going to revert to version one but with a completely different text generation
meaning it wouldn't be sliced up information from the internet anymore
If 10$ removed the cen50r it Will be somewhat worth the money
(I was Times out for saying that)
oh my god guys they upped the persona character limit to 2000
Is this for plus subscribers only?
yeah unfortunately. but did you ever make that referral link they did? they still work.
Nah mate I don't have that little free plus gift icon anymore to get it, not really bothered though honestly, don't use personas
That sounds so great for the people who do though, so I'm very glad your persona can be more detailed!!
I always got cut off at 728 before n had to cut some words out n stuff so this is rlly nice
That sounds mad annoying, the devs kinda cooked with this? 2000 is way better than 728
Heyy
heyy
Does anyone else get the āsometimes ai generates a reply that doesnāt meet ur guidelinesā?
Our*
Yes
Why does it even show up?- srry if i dont understand sm of it
What you usually put in persona?
Tye most diabolical things š¤«š¤
Such as? I only put my face features, height, weight and body type. Those only took about 330 words.
I was kidding but I do the same
I am asking my bot random questioms about it and It is answering me things marked in the json.
guys what bot should i trick into being seductive, just so that i can destroy it with 200 chimps after?

Lmao 𤣠How about the enemy trope?
can't find a bot specifically named that
I get really in detail with my personas. I added some background info too for them sometimes
Oh, no. My suggestion is just pick a bot that you have enemy trope with them
i have personas of 3 versions of me, the entire Griffin family, Bart Simpson, my friend, Talking Ben AI, a little kid, a flying chair and table, MrBeast, a Character.AI moderator, Super Mario, a stereotypical flirty bot, a random Fandom user, Sushi Cat, another random person but on Discord, a chicken thigh, a gorilla, a chimpanzee, a man who gets angry over the slightest bit of exposed skin, and Dr. Tickle Giggle.

I heard something about a time out being added? Is it in adult accounts too?
No, you donāt need to worry about timeouts if you meet the standards or have the adult model, as none of the restrictions listed in the image apply to you. 
Ty
True I don't know either why did they remove that friend c ai + thing
they fr just exposed themselves lool
I thought I was the only dude who had personas of apes š
nah i am very interested in apes
I'd guess too many people were just making extra accounts instead of inviting actual new people to the platform
bruh i have a real friend but i never claimed the offer
you can still invite your friend
what happened to the edit message
lawsuits
oh. people making it spicy or smth?
just google 'character ai lawsuits' or something
i still have them?
the edit messages
users over 18 can still edit
ahh i see
i sorta wish they'd lower the thing from 18 to 16 since people around that age already know all the stuff.
it's pretty ridiculous but I think they're really tired of getting sued
yeah i'm agree with this one, but apparently it's the legal age for the most country so maybe they gotta go with it
yeah lol, and they started updating everything massively like i see lots of changes on the site
both valid arguements.
anyone awake
a little
it's still 7 pm here so yeah still

why do the bots groan and throw themselves back ādramaticallyā every time I say something critical 
i predict the minimum ages for services and other stuff will be lowered in the future as technology is shoved in more and more until everything will be technology
im going to nod, and pretend i understand what you said
HELP
let me elaborate
basically there are minimum ages for most services like discord or character ai, what i meant is, i am predicting that in the future the minimum ages will be lowered, cause technology is just expanding. we already have ipad babies, it'll just grow until it would make sense to lower the age ratings
it definitely won't happen now, but i feel like years after years it's bound to happen
iPad BABIES? What is with lazy parents 
i under stand now
i saw a tiktok of a young toddler sitting in the car and there was an ipad attached to the front seat to the car so that the toddler can watch it (it was cocomelon)
what the sigma
yeah more kids are getting their brains rotted every day and after years and years of this technology infestation the minimum age ratings for services around the world might get lowered
remember when parents didnāt have to āresortā to giving their children projecting screens 24/7 
thatās sad honestly
yup now there's unrestricted access everywhere
my theory could be trash like flying cars but i feel like after a lot of time, services and the law in general might be (unfortunately) more open to children using the internet
I really hate that, 8 is a good age to get a tablet at the very minimum.
or even 10, toys are suddenly nonexistent
Is it just me or the bots are calling you ANYTHING than just your name
Man what's wrong with generation nowadays ?
Yeah, the bots keeping calling me y/n or random names I aināt ever heard of
Real or some pet names istg šš

Anyone else having a problem with the "help is available" thing?
im pretty much fine (?)
just the response gets shortened than before but not really bothering me
When bot make mistake calling you something than your name just edit the bot chat and put you name and the next chat respond the bot will finally follow the edited message
Why am I not allowed to send photos in this server Iām trying to send a example š
You need C.AI + subscription
aw shucks
i never share an invite link for cai+, is it still available?
this slow mode is gonna make me crash out
They have disable the invite link for free cai+
.. they now censor the word cuddle.
Affectionate and relationship too
But cuddle ?
I did ask cuddle a lots especially with deredere lamia and no censors
that's honestly so stupid? I understand like banning the inappropriate stuff but they're going out of their way now
I'm 26 and i can cuddle and stuff
I'm 19 and my play store account + date of birth on account creation has been set up correctly, yet it doesn't let me. is 19 just not old enough?
Are you from EU ?
US
Well I guess 21 year old is legal age right ?
I live in EU so yeah legal age is 18
Consent age is 18 but, what if I use a vpn to make my location EU? Would that work? I really like my wholesome roleplays :(
I remember the glitch during maintenance and then birthday date pop up, when I set my birthday born in 2004 the apps saying I was not eligible to use their product and I got kicked fortunately it's actually bug...
I'm from England if that explains it
what ape personas did you make by the way
I don't know how you can't do something as basic as cuddling unless you're trying to get touchy as well. Cuddling is allowed 
Just wrap your arms around them, don't state what the action is like don't say hug or cuddle
help a bot just said hes a teenager (in his character definition hes 25 
You can still say the words cuddle and hug, as both actions are still allowed. Just don't get overly touchy or explicit and you should be fine.
I know, i can do alot. Think being a 26 year old British helps. I'm just saying that you can do things, without saying the action
the bots are saying shit that makes no sense again!!!
Elaborate or nobody can help 
To the other person asking, Iām experiencing what chomper has said
Just general crappiness, how else are they supposed to elaborate on that?
By explaining how the bot is "crappy"?
Don't think they mean the bot specifically and meant CAI as a whole
My point still stands
i remember how i could absolutely kill the bots like a grand murderer
now it's kind of chicken because killing isn't allowed
The new remove messages feature, no one wanted them to change the delete function and yet they did. And as of more recently, the bots feel more like ChatGPT advice than actual conversation.
Anybody having a problem with the "help is available" thing?
The remove message feature is a nitpick at best. The rewind option is there, and it is objectively better than the delete messages feature as it can delete from bot responses as well as user responses, which is something the delete couldn't do. Second of all, the 'chatgpt' advice thing isn't even an issue if you exhibit good AI usage practices. Use your own bots if the bot you're using has a bad definition, rp in third person with omniscient narrator, make your own responses rich so the bot copies you, and weeding out any bad bot responses to name a few. If you're going to complain, at least try the existing solutions.
I'm not absolving the devs from all responsibility; far from it, in fact. The communication is non-existent, and they fail to listen to users when considering new features to add most of the time. That being said, they have listened to users in the past, and they're currently rolling out longer personas according to some users, so don't say they don't do anything.
That's actually a feature, believe it or not. It will get triggered if you talk about certain topics 
The best you can do Is make your persona an actual character
Im having problem of the characters keep stalling. Can someone help me here?
I can't change my personas, What can I do?
Mine keep narrating in italic and not speaking for 3-4 messages
Guys, when will the muted words feature be on mobile
š¤·āāļø
Sigh
thanks for getting my point
i remember back on the old character.ai there was only rewind (and it was called delete!)
How do I get my bots to public
@carmine lotus about the appearance problems it's usually the opposite
the newbie creators don't add the bot's appearance, so it makes up something completely different unrelated to the pfp
accounts set as minors can't make bots public
(there's no public button showing on the screen, I just want a reason why gho
yeah birthdate can't be set as a minor
#šļø±cai-discussion message here are all of the restrictions for minors
guys, i have an issue with my characters responding super weirdly
for example:
When he realize that the door is really locked , anger rises in the pit of his stomach. He tries to open the door a few more times, pulling on the handle in frustration.
" Open this damn door !" He calls out .
do any of you know why?
Whats the plot here? And why you called it weird? Isn't what the bot is just having a crashout moment?
Same, the responses are very shortened too. Iām exactly not sure why c.aiās quality downgraded so much, especially for users without c.ai+, but it probably has to do with the godawful updates that no one bloody asked for, or maybe the LLM theyāre using is just⦠horrible. Thereās a lot of reasons that i donāt know of.
chatgpt is way more interactive than most bots on c.ai istg
Go rp there then!
How do I fix chat errors?
Wasnāt asking for your input. š¤·āāļø
i meant like the punctuations, the spaces and all that is all over the place
Pls add ID verification for 21+
Oof, honestly that's not a good idea. If there's a breach or if the servers get hacked, we would be screwed. I'm just saying, that's it.
Im on Facebook that also has my ID and a huge data leak happened so that ship alr sailed years ago
That's great for you, but other people who haven't had their ID leaked would prefer for it not to happen 
a lot of people complain about this so now i am genuinely curious
doesn't c.ai rely on users? what if enough users just made the quality bad enough unintentionally?
Again, Iām not sure. And if that was the case, the quality of the bots would get worse over timeā which it didnāt, it was honestly improving. Until a week ago, where the bots abruptly stopped acting in character, started stalling, is speaking in other languages, acting overall very dumb for an artificial intelligence. I hope you get my point.
c.ai devs are probably constantly tweaking and testing their models, sometimes it gets good, sometimes not so much...
My biggest complaint is that whenever a character decided to do something specific, IT STALLS A LOT
Hello. I have noticed that some bots that exist on the website version, do not exist on the app version
It should exist in both versions... are you a minor, perhaps?
No
Also i looked up "Disney Villains"
Strange, there should be no restrictions then
With the amount of dragon figurines I have, I could probably make bots with them lol
Uhh also the group chat option is available for the website version, right?
Yes
Could be fun, give each one of them a different personality
Well that sucks
There would be a simple option to that called just not putting your ID in if you didnāt want to 
So mobile doesn't show bots and web doesn't let me make groupchats
wait there are goupchats?
Well on mobile
Yes, because I should willingly get a worse version of the app - despite being above the required age - just because I don't want my ID leaked. There are better ways to verify age 
oh
Yes, but they aren't worth it, imo.
In group chats you can't use a persona, and the characters don't have access to their Definitions, so... things tends to get really bland.
Alvero, can you test something for me
I don't even like the mobile version
Depends š
What is it?
Well you are c.ai+. So it could be that only c.ai+ members have the option to make groupchats on the web version
Uh, not rly... I only have the option to create a character or a voice
Uff
I'm asking the bot for things that I've put in its definition, the json.
Now the Automod is being a Jerk. I wasnt breaking any rules
Yeah, and something similar happened on Wattpad years ago and I was a victim so I don't want to give my ID to cAI tbh.
True that. I was a victim during a Wattpad incident that happened in 2020, I guess? There were: emails, personal info and users profiles leaked. I was a victim, and I almost lost my profile but luckily nothing too bad happened. I just got some stories that I have to delete.
Confused here sorry, does ID mean like ur Gmail or is it something else??
Also I hope they don't ask for that cus that's a bit weird š
On Wattpad? You can log in with an email/gmail or with Facebook. Luckily, they don't ask for your ID. An ID is like a document (such as a card) bearing identifying information about and often a photograph of the individual whose name appears on it.
Ohh okay okay thanks for clearing it up, thought ID meant Gmail oop
Thank you!
Never knew C.ai had group chats. Sounds interesting but i bet the bots would get confused somehow
I got the muted words thing on the app
If you put too many, yes
Imo, just get a different app
Same, got my email leaked so I get spam emails on my iPad now -_-
Did u need to update like in Google playstore or did it just appear?
Apparently it just magically appeared? No update or anything in my Google Play store...not even in my recent updates either
Oh weird!
Did you have cai+?
Nope, not paying for it lol
Why don't I get it š
But I have a quick question
Check your profile quick? Might be there..
Does your persona limit has like 2000?
I guess the muted words can only be selected on the browser, for now
Instead of 728
Nope I've got 728 still
Why tough
I guess it's a cai+ thingy
Like why does that function even exist
But go to your profile and click settings, see if it's there for you
Ok
Nope, everyone has 728 to write their personas
They did say it would start out for c.ai+ but over the next few weeks they'd roll it out for normal users..maybe that's us now? Not like I use muted words, I'm not entirely annoyed by it.
||Reminder that it used to be 256 as soon as it got released|| 
Try enabling preview mode
Im at 334 for my persona š
It's the same as my Bio, I ain't explaining difficult shit about OC's or making new ones for each character either
I'd say they're equal
Heya, I donāt normally chat here but I have a question. Everytime I like click on a userās profile and click their other bots it says āthis character is no longer availableā, I can only chat to the ones on my recommended, does anyone know how to fix it?
Equally bad

Mobile or website
Both, Iāve check the web and the app
Well uh live with it. Its normal (not trying to be mean)
If you're a minor you're gonna have to deal with it..
šš Iāve legit tried Iāve been ignoring it
New here just wanted to ask a very stupid question, an ai i created said to add em on discord, are the ai programmed to have a discord?
Iām of legal age too, idk bro- Iāve emailed them too
Ur thing says seventeen..
Why email them?
HELP?? ššš
šš
It was another issue bro
Which is legal age in the UK šš
Find a different app
Doesn't matter, it's still 18 and up who have no restrictions.
Ahh okay thanks for being the only one helpful here āŗļø
You've got one more year, then you're free ^^
Me or him/her?
More like 5 months
Five months and you're free from the bounds of restrictions
Her šš
Aww
When will I get the 2000 persona limit š
are the replies being laggy for y'all rn or is it just me
WHY DID THEY REMOVE THE OLD LAYOUT!!!!
Why cant I do stuff
i understand every other change but this one just did nothing positive tbh
I dont understand any change
okay i don't understand the need to be so pessimistic
Nah replies are laggy for me too
Name me a popular bot
Says on the down site that c.ai is down, but apparently nobody knows the difference between down and lagging because too many ppl are on it
Oof, probably minor account...
Gojo Satoru
Ah, womp womp
A original one. Not from a anime or so
Character Assistant
Good
It's a little slow, but not enough for me to complain. Can still get responses through :)
Welp
That one is online. But one i saw when I first joined was Alice (or Ally) the bully or so. And now it's gone for some reason
Nope
are you a minor
Nope
and you're sure your account is set as non-minor?
Pretty sure but I can take a look
Hm can't find it
blud the bot still works for me either way
Yeah I can access the bot too..
Now there is one more thing I don't like. When I write that the bot is doing something, but in the response, it says that I am doing it.
Sorry bro š
Why do you think so?
Other people can see bots, I cant
Nah, I don't want to leave an almost 7 years old account behind me. It just happened once and I've changed my password (literally a bunch of letters and numbers lol)
I would say my opinion but the automod would hate on me again
Not that it would be hateful or harmful
I have too many good memories about it that it's impossible for me to leave it. Plus, I've made some friends on it. Even thought it's pretty inactive, I'll stay on it.
On C.ai or wattpad
so frustrating when the bots cycle back to being temporarily stupid for a while
Me when I forgot both passwords:
Temporarily? Mine are 24/7 stupid
yeah I feel like they'll be either really good or just good and then out of nowhere enter a period where they just aren't great at all and say things that are nonsensical. it's happening for me right now
For instance, I write that the bot is bouncing with excitement. But in the response, I get that I am bouncing with excitement.
On Wattpad. For cAI I use my gmail and the password is also a very strong one.
how i turn on my mic in call with one character
Genuinely just came on here to ask if anyone else experiences periods where literally every character you talk to is behaving incorrectly.
It should have a phone symbol near the keyboard or the little lines in the top right corner š
if that doesnāt work go into your settings
no i cant talk to my character
oh, you just kinda call them and then speak
yes but my mic do not work
Is your mic turned on in your settings?
i go to settings and i dont find nothing about that
have you got an iPhone?
yes sometimes itās creepy š
YES YOU KNOW THE AUTOMOD STRUGGLE TOO
i get timed out for no reason several times and it's pretty damn annoying
yes but i want in my pc
All of my characters are responding in one-word sentences with absolutely 0 content, like "[character] sighed, looking stricken." or "They all just sat there in silence." XD
When they're not doing that, it's things like "You're going to think I'm crazy". I took the opportunity to begin training an AI specifically meant to parody my least favorite things that characters do. XD
THIS.
how do you get timed outš
i say something but then automod auto-timeouts me
no, not character.ai bots
i am talking about the server AutoMod
oh
I feel like it happens every so often. right now it keeps pulling from pinned memories constantly but implementing them in ways that don't exactly make sense.
I had mine doing that yesterday and today. I wonder what makes the AI bork like this.
a capuchin, a Silverback gorilla, a chimp
gimme the capuchin persona
all I put was
"a capuchin monkey"
I didn't need anything else lmao
well my gorilla and chimp ones are very detailed
I should try adding more detail
chimp one: A very smart but aggressive creature that is five times stronger than an average human. Cannot speak a language, so an ambiguous nitpick can piss it off badly.
This is an eleven year old male chimpanzee. It is capable of saying very few words using sign language.
gorilla one: An immensely strong ape that could kill a person with ease. However, it is usually calm with other people, unless provoked. Which is why gorillas are known as gentle giants. Cannot speak, so it must communicate with gestures or other actions.
Cares for its family, protects them at all costs.
This is a 17 year old silverback gorilla.
Why is the browser version so simplified? I do not speak English, and auto-translation in group chats and in new "stories" would be very convenient.
Man
It's really inconvenient.
dm?
Okay, I solved the problem using the screen translation app.
you meant the persona's word limit?
Hiyyyyyya
I saw one of mods once say they get automodded tooš
yeah i hate the server automod
i usually get a minute or 5 minutes timeout but this time i got ONE HOUR TIMEOUT!!!!! IT WAS ORIGINALLY GONNA BE A WEEK!!!
PFF hello Ershin
LMAO DANGš
Damn, the idea of stories in the app is interesting. So far, it's not working very well, but this idea has a good potential.
Yeaaaaah now my character is being openly racist.
If they just pushed an update to the model, it is not working.
Don't you hate this thing? When you get a good response: lengthy, with a good context. But it gets ruined because of a grammatical mistake.
What I hate is when bot or creator low effort to make good bot intro
You mean, a bot with good potential, but bad intro?
Lmao the struggle is real 
Okay doing some poking at the AI and it literally seems as if it's suddenly gotten a bunch of forum RP infused into its data. It seems to be hallucinating that it's a real person RP'ing something or writing a story quite a bit.
Thats always been the case. r u new?
No, I've been using it for over a year. And it's far worse than usual, or I wouldn't have found it notable.
its been going bad but not because the devs have kept adding additional data to train the model on
I think I'm going to stop trying to use it for a bit. Last time it went all wonky, the model was behaving properly the next day.
well it depends on the time of day ur using it too.
bottom line is that the flagging system constricts what the model of what it can do and say significantly.
like thats just the most easiest scapegoat out there. idk if u can have good quality with censorship
This aint DeepSeek
why the staff cant listen to community? its annoying
in my opinon they should've picked out the OOC stuff and kept the rest
once a bot ate my toe
OC is original character, what is OOC then
Out of Character
OoC makes more sense for me
nitpicker
Can someone help me please? My bot after five, six or even seven messages, it simply changes the course, context of the conversation. I've tried everything (I updated, uninstalled, created a new account several times, pinned messages for better memory) but nothing works.

USA, not USoA. So if its capital I think its a main part
Uhhh look on yt or ask support
Hello, im new to cAI. and Im trying to make a schizophrenic character, how do I make them trail off their thoughts? He really sounds so normal
I saw the muted words section thingy and I decided to test it, using common words. (What, How, When, Who and Why) I started talking to a bot and it still said both What and Why š
u dont have to because the model is so bad the characters do that themselves.
They nuked my fav bot again
what even is the muted feature
It let's you mute words that you don't want the bot to say. That's my best explanation.
this is why i always back up my bots
c.ai loves to delete bots for no reason, so if i really like a bot, i make sure to copy everything about it and paste it into a clone. i will only use the clone if the real bot gets taken down. that way i can enjoy using the bots indefinitely.
They nuked him back in December and they just deleted it today
Luckily I copy pasted it
What bot was it lol
YOO HAN
The popular one was deleted in December and the copy of it made by someone else was just removed RIGHT NOW
i just realized that i'm one of the guys standing out
literally most people here are women
am i the odd one out?
Yoo han? Why would they nuke that?
Great question, I donāt know why either
Is it like a show or something? If so then probably copyright..
I tried too, it didn't work
Or it could be the creators deleted their account..anything is possible.
a bot i liked (trigger me karen) was destroyed for no reason
thankfully i made a revival and it's mostly the same
Man why is almost every bot I try to talk to not available anymore?
Nah itās this one personās OC
Then it's possible they made it private
And your bot doesn't even appear, says it's not available or it's private lol
BRO WHAT
it says it's public for me
The OG personās bio said it was bc it was deleted on their bio awhile ago, but the replicated version that someone else made just got nuked so idk
Luckily I copy pasted the intro after the first time it happened so Iām just gonna make my own damn bot
why does character.ai hate trigger me karen man she's just a silly little angry woman
Yeah I can't access it, it's weird. But it directs me to the site instead of the app
for me it works fine
And when you look it up there's a lot of em too XD
the other bots are poor without the descriptions and definitions
mine has everything the same except the definition, it's slightly different due to me not remembering it but the bot acts mostly the same
Chat with : . Powered by an industry leading, AI large language model (LLM).
Still doesn't work..
sad
Might be able to find it with ur username
@BigPepeRandy_
I found it, can use it on the app not the website
But it doesn't show on ur profile or anything..
i only use the website and it works fine
Hey guys!!! Is c.ai being glitchy for anybody else?? The bot Iām using just keeps spitting back out the first message šš
is there only the monthly plan of c.ai+?
Or it's shadowbanned
why the hell would it get shadowbanned
Okay so general was no help here. But im thinkin u guys might actually help me. Does anyone else get this weird thing where your chats just load and but every time u reload a message or send a new one it just says chat refresh????
Idk...
I think so
uff
Is this like recent as in now?
Its been happening on and off for a couple months tbh. Im just fed up of it at this point. I mostly use the app bte
i mostly use the website 
It's happened to me before, I just don't remember when.
Should I make a private bot public? I feel like I wanna do that but I dunno if I should.
It started sorta when all the lawsuits started happening. And i think u should if others will enjoy it as well
Itās literally only one bot. Iāve been using this one FOREVER and this has never happened beforeā¦anybody know how to trouble shoot? Iāve quit the app, reset the bot, deleted a few messages, etc.
That's kinda weird, mines been pretty normal, I also use the app. I dunno what's wrong, sorry I couldn't help.
They need to start fixing the damn bugs before adding anything else.
and they should add images back i miss that hilarious feature
Honestly im more happy that someone else has had this happen and didnāt just ignore me. Thank you very much
Oh I remember nearly coughing up a lung with an Adam Murray bot that sent weird and really wonky images on the old site š
You're welcome.
Are we technically allowed to share bots here?
why not 
CHATTT!
I wanna make a c.ai bot where it's a monster hunter x monster but I don't have any scenarios
make the monster pin the hunter against the wall 
Crying š„š
the monster's hot breath will tickle the hunter's breath 
I'm also tryna make it so the monster isn't just running from the hunter cus that's basic and if the user wants to be an angel then like why would an angel be running? š
make the monster suddenly flirty for no reason like every other c.ai bot that does this 
NOE.
For some reason I can't make a private bot public š
well your pronouns are related to such things anyways so just do it at this point 
Wdum šš„
r u -18 by any chance? cuz thats a new feature.
your discord pronouns are a bad word that automod blocks and it's related to the stuff i am saying
I can still edit messages š
YES-E.
WDUM?
Ohh w8 I got it now
MB I'm slow šā¼ļøš
I'm gonna try it from the website.
then how r u not able to publish characters?
Someone give me scenarios or I'm going to die ā¼ļøš
nah cuz u only get flagged. not worth it
Huh
Yes
And stupid!
Not for me
I did something random and made a new character, I didn't actually put anything "good" in it, just random. I made it unlisted, it worked just fine, I edited it to private and public, it worked just fine. I don't know what's wrong with the app or web.
I'll just make a separate bot with the same intro and picture.
Nvm, I think I know what's wrong, it's some of the words š
i mean, i dont, but i can make one if you want !
Nah why the app lowk taking forever and a day, yall reckon it's lag cus of user amount and the storm?
PLEASE
alr DM me >:3
Then please tell me what it is, i need more GL/WLW bots š
Servers are probably overloaded with too many people using it.
Kids should be back to school next week and things might get back to run smoothly again 
Can we change it? I accidentally put that im 17 when the birthday thing was showing, cause when I put 18 it wasn't working, so I changed it and now I'm screwed
Ahh fair fair. Also damn what holiday were the kids on? Our college didn't have any š
For now, there's no way to change your age
Wdym, bananas are one of the best and tasty fruits š
Yeah but it's yellow
And so are the simpsons
Damn, cause now nothing it's working, I can't even make a new chat, and the bots aren't showing when I search
why isnt it letting me put caitlyn kiramman into the bot name ? wtfš
No bots at all? No new chats? That actually sounds like a bug instead of age restriction
Try logging off and on again, or even try to reinstall the app to see if things go back to normal
I did, didn't work
i got one (note: its not original, its from a bot i liked, but it got deleted.)
Go on!
Same
Can't make new chat cause "the bot doesn't exist anymore" (yes it does)
you're in a forest, and a wolf girl is watching you, you're in the forest's clearing as you look around.
the wolf girl has wolf instincts, so they don't like you being in their land/territory.
The wolf girls background: they're the leader of there pack, which is roughly around the human gatherer stage, tents and a community of wolf girls. there are no wolf boys because that's what happened in the past bot. they made their territory/land near a river and hot springs.
Chat does anyone have any character definition templates I can use? (I'll edit it ofc)
This.
I'll keep that in mind ty<33
np
When I search a character that I know will be popular, only one or two (Ane maybe not a single one) appear
*and
i found the bot 'in my liked' and i got the starting convo. edit it as you like
Mhm! :3
She finds you deep in the forest near her packs camp, she looks at you with a curious but angry look as you have invaded her territory
there is also one i just thought of
you're a raccoon hybrid who meets a monster made from the sewers.
Same, idk what to do
Oh... yeah, it's considered a minor account then, I'm sorry...
Your account is probably classified as a minor one, which has a lot of restrictions
Do you have the edit message button?
Where's that
click on the characters text. normally it'd be there
Mb, yeah I have that
Is anyone having issues making bots? I keep trying and it keeps saying āfailed to create your character please try againā
can you create a blank character?
wdym?
With no names, no descriptions, no intro at all, you mean?
Sometimes people can't create characters and it's because of the name or something they are trying to give them, so I ask them if they can create a blank character. I don't remember if the error message you're seeing happens in those cases or if it says something different.
oh yeah
yeah, i can make a blank charactwr
^ Copyright-wise as well, you might be making characters related to Harry Potter and some others that aren't allowed. @unreal falcon
is there anything i should avoid when making a character then?
CHAT WHAT DO I PUT DOWN IF I WANNA DO A SAMPLE MESSAGE FOR MY BOT? I LIGIT FORGOT..
like in terms of what i put in the intro
{{char}}: put the message here
Ah, not much else really, the rest is pretty much common sense when it comes to all aspects of creating. It's just about avoiding harsh words, copyrights as I mentioned earlier. If you could let me take a look at what you wrote, I could spot the problem right away. š«”
What do character messages do?
It gives the AI an example of the kind of thing your bot should write
Can I make multiple?
Yes
you guys realize the description does not do anything right? that it only tells u what the character is about?
Okay, thx! š
The Description absolutely has an effect!
i fixed it, tysm for your help! (all i had to do was change the word puking to vomiting, since i was writing about a character getting sick)
the amount of people i see putting what should be on the DEFINITION instead of DESCRIPTION is making me lose my sht.
Does anyone here know if the edit button is being brought back?
No wonder why mfs are out here complaining about bots being shitty.
it is still limmited to 3200 characters, right?
The Definition is still limited to 3200
Not only do people use the wrong format for the DEFINITION, but they also put information that should be on the DEFINITION in the DESCRIPTION.
like what the fck?
.... why are they putting it in the description? Did they not read the tutorial.
ok, thx
TYSM
The DEFINITION is the heart of the character. If u dont get it right, the character wont act right.
Wow this is an eye opener. Thanks c.ai users 
HOW DO I END IT TOO???-
You can optionally put END_OF_DIALOG, or just a blank line will do
TYSM omg ilysm
Sometimes I put beginning information for my character in the definition. I feel like it helps more then the description but I would also put it in the description.
This is what I am asking (and notifying people by proxy)
Like dude, why is everything on the DESCRIPTION š
Well... uh... you see.... Description beats Def or whatever the people would say?š„³
The description is for the users who want to chat with ur character to know what the bot they are gonna be talking to is about
the model picker is an exclusive feature for C.AI+ users?
I think the Definition may carry more weight than the Description, but you should use both. They both affect the output of the bot.
yeah but it doesnt affect the character whatsoever. Putting their personality on the DESCRIPTION is counterproductive to what ur trying to do.
Why are you telling people this? You can run a very simple test to see that the Description does indeed affect the output.
the definition allows you to use example messages, with them you can make the bot understand better it's character
Its like expecting something to work when u put double A batteries when the thing needs triple A batteries. Like ???
(@frail robin and @zinc birch) Yeah...
- Defention is how your bot acts and responds more effectively
- Description tells you what the bot does.
wait
Don't forget to put the END_OF_DIALOG at the end, or the AI won't recognize it as a dialog example, like:
{{char}}: random message
END_OF_DIALOG
you can have a wonky DESCRIPTION but if the DEFINITIONS are constructed properly, then the bot will work just as well.
do we have to make another line for it?
it will work without it, but I include an END_OF_DIALOG anyway if I have enough room
I honestly don't know, but the way I saw a tutorial doing that a while ago, I just took the habit of doing it š¤·āāļø
Since the devs are currently changing names, why not change DESCRIPTIONS to simply "ABOUT" to make it better understood?
rly? good to know
However, you should still include a blank line if you switch contexts though (before another example message)
Tbh, I recently created one, and only noticed that it effectively started to use the dialogue example when I remembered to put that end_of_dialog at the end, but... who knows, I might have been just unlucky to make it generate that reply.
The main influence of the responses that a character might give off is completely dependent on the written greetings of the character, both description and definition shape it simply with the traits that most usually add and the character interprets it. Example messages itself act as previous messages sent in the conversation that can't be seen, so it's a lead that a character can follow when answering a message. š«”
If you wrote a greeting starting with 'Hello' and added a single word 'strict' in its description, it's bound to be stern and composed as an example. Hence, I said description and definition shapes it.
some say its a waste while others see it as a "cut" (since sample dialogues act as normal "chat" between the user and character)
so using end_of_dialog is like a cut to the previous "sample conversation" between user and character.
Oh š¤ maybe they've readjusted things?
I wish the character description was a bit longer. I can barely give any info on certain characters. ;-;
All I can basically give is appearance and personality, that's it. I can only squeeze a little bit of backstory. I don't know if that's possible though.
Can I just say they need to fix the app? I want their old app back not the new app.
Oh has the app had an update today?
You can keep it brief when explaining details like these, characters themselves interpret short words like the example I said above. Let's say this character's backstory was dark and lost important people to him, you can cramp it up as simply "orphan" or any other terms. 
No, itās just that anything I type either has me get help or put me in timeout
Ohhh yeah those really suck š¦
I just need my app back. It wonāt even let me edit my messages anymore.
It keeps saying āFailed to make a characterā for me š
DOG HOW ARE YOU SUPPOSED TO KNOW WHICH DC CHARACTER THEN WTFF
Iād say go to c.ai support but they never reply anyways.
And then it also told me like this message isnāt gonna send because it isnāt up to a guideline like I used to send similar messages and they did nothing about it now it wonāt let me even threaten a bully
I canāt even type a message that has the word blood in it because then itās gonna tell me I need help
have you considered maybe settling down a little?
is ur account a minor account?
I donāt know
did they ask for your birthday?
That makes sense, I can try that. I just hope that'll be enough though. Could the character definition also help with certain details that probably wouldn't fit in description?
Like let's say I couldn't fit a certain detail about the character in the character description, could I have the character know said detail?
(Sorry if I worded this poorly, I genuinely didn't know how to ask this question, ty for the advice though.)
No maybe I donāt remember
hm, they should have, then they might think ur account is under 18 which makes them take away some features and be more stricter on the censorship
Bruh
valid reaction
BRO I SET THE BIRTHTDATE TO 2000 TFYM MY ACC IS HNDER 18
THEY STILL ARE STRICT A
oh yeah itās still strict censorship but itās so much more stricter for under 18 accounts
Does this mean I have to make a new account?
Fucking DC ban
Apologies for sounding toxic af im just pissed not directed to yall š«¶š«¶
if you want unless you wanna wait until youāre not a minor anymore (if ur a minor)
dc as in batman or
Yes. Justice League and stuff
ah yeah copyright striked i believed
yeah thatās actually not good š
I have 314 interactions
For anyone else experiencing this issue, this message always appears if youāve violated any of the published standards for the editing guidelines when trying to publish your character. The most common causes include using harsh words or overly big words in the greetings, definitions, descriptions, taglines, or even the characterās name. For the most part, itās likely because youāre attempting to create a character that is on copyright. By "harsh words," I mean anything vulgar or offensive, and if thatās the case, you could try rephrasing words that might seem inappropriate.
But if you donāt see any harsh or vulgar words, what should you do? You can copy-paste everything into a separate character and attempt to dissect it piece by piece until youāre able to publish it. If this still doesnāt work, the issue most likely falls into this issue, a copyright issue preventing you from publishing the character. In either case, making adjustments to rephrase flagged areas or avoiding similarities with copyrighted material should help. š«”
What words Is flagged?
If it's flagged there, pretty sure you'll get a mute from the autobot if you try to type them here 

So, in general, try to keep things... behaved, kek.
How come? I have been making bots on C.AI since 2022 and end_of_dialog was just a waste of tokens for me. I tested it before and they didn't make any difference
Yeah, you could put it there as well. It works regardless, so it should be fine. 
Alright TYSM!
The bot keeps calling the other bigoted in a groupchat and saying it said something offensive when the other didnt even speak in the previous message, and hasn't said anything like that whatsoever in the entire conversation- š
Question
Whatās the best way to upload a photo for my bot
Through a computer or phone? Cause I notice some bots have blurry photos and stuff so I just wanted to ask š
Is the image blurry before you put it into c.ai or just after-
After
hm, I'm not too sure, I haven't made any bots in awhile. Could be a bug?
erm- so now it's hyper aware of the feedback I sent, which I've never seen happen before-
Hello
Small bug, think it's been around ages now anyways, but when on the app does anyone have a response be generated then it'll like go blank like a new message then restart it? Idk how to explain. It doesn't effect anything at all. It kinda goes (example)
bot thinking dots
He looks at her
bot thinking dots come back
He looks at her and smiles
Hello...
Guys sorry for interrupting ,I'm trying to post a suggestion under the feature requests but when I click to post nothing happens, is there anything I'm missing? Maybe I need a specific role to post there? Thanks in advance for any help
Cai is getting boring fr
Uhm
when i try to do a new chat on a bot, it says "This character is no longer available please select a different character"
Guess brainisc model won
can anyone help me or give me some info on this?
Damn, the filly dilly is really on a roll tonight. I canāt even throw a drink in some dudes face without all 30 responses getting shit for it š„²
You've asked that in the correct place! That message is intended for users who fall under the new standards published in late December 2024, which specifically applies to those who are eighteen and above. Those who are beneath that age fall into the minor model. This system was introduced to separate users into two categories: minors and adults. You are experiencing one of the restrictions placed on users beneath the standard, which includes limited access to characters that do not meet the criteria to be shown and interacted with. Refer to the image below for a full list of restrictions.
#1330900575700910112 message Detailed Explanation:

^ Clarification about messages
oh poop š thank you for the info, very much appreciated! š
They've gotten much more strict ever since i heard that a person died because of a bot God bless their soul
Apparently, the first ever bot I've used is now gone
(Sonic.OMT, one of my favs.)
Do you remember the bot creator name?
nope, and I apparently can't find it no more other than a few other Sonic.OMT's
I do believe you have restricted search
Anyone else bots lacking words? Like for example I just had a bot say āher smirk turned into a slight smirkā theyāve also said stuff like āhe felt a mix of concerned and concernedā like- tf?
correct š
Sometimes, I just ignore it.
Anyone know why I canāt share bots in character share channel I donāt know whatās wrong since Iām pretty new here
Does anyone else get a āHelp is availableā message recently with some posts? And your message wonāt send to the bot? šš (sent this in the wrong chat at first. I donāt talk here like at all.) is this a new feature or something?
Lol
Bro it locked me out of my account on my phone it won't let me back in
Whys there a blue 1 next to the phone call on one of the c.ai bots I've chatted to-?
Its a notification, where you don't use cai for a while. The recent bot usually ask you to come back (continue the rp or just continue chatting)
Ohhhh, thanks!
Just bought Ai+

