💭︱cai-discussion

[pine solstice]

Has anyone else had a problem with the bots saying they’re human 😭

[dreamy sluice]

No...?

[pine solstice]

Okay so I didn’t until recently but I saw ppl in instagram talking abt it

Idk if this is a weird glitch I’m sure it has something to do with the ai being a learning model so maybe it learns from public roleplay forums but it’s weird

[sick herald]

Everyone there is a message I see done buttons to either answer, react or do sum what did I do to deserve that

[sick herald]

No

[grizzled ingot]

When will there be an update that's not useless?

[pine solstice]

Sassy

[austere storm]

nobody knows

[signal rapids]

Thats not the problem
Its the fact theres no setting to disable it

[sick herald]

The buttons that can you can forward and reply just appeared there and it's annoying me already

[signal rapids]

What the hell are you on abt

[sick herald]

Can't send an image here but for me there is some weird buttons on the bottom of the message everytime someone writes smth

[signal rapids]

Oh wait are u complaining abt the feature too?

[sick herald]

Yeah

[signal rapids]

This seems to be only on discord mobile beta...? Idk
I say cuz thats what im using

[grizzled ingot]

Does anyone else miss the moving pictures of bot's pfp?

[signal rapids]

I was thinking i was being mocked tbf

[sick herald]

I joined c.ai mid 2024 and I need that

[signal rapids]

...?
Wha?

[sick herald]

Since when did I sign in for beta

[quartz hearth]

I never saw that on the app and website tho

[signal rapids]

Did you sign in to beta on the app store/play store?

[grizzled ingot]

Back when the old version of the site was up, some of pfps were gifs that moved.

[dreamy sluice]

I never knew that was a thing before I rejoined c.ai in mid 2024.

[sick herald]

I don't remember doing so

[signal rapids]

Lemme dm holon

[sick herald]

K

[mystic ruin]

It was a good/long while ago, I honestly forgot it existed. I don't think it lasted very long

[grizzled ingot]

Well, the pictures can move. But only if you have CAI Tools.

[mystic ruin]

It was like, when it just the website and then the app came along. Those were the good ol days LOL

[dreamy sluice]

Posting pictures in chats sounds like a pretty cool feature, honestly.

[grizzled ingot]

You see, some of the pictures on the bot's pfps are just gifs stuck on the first frame of animation.

[dense lantern]

@severe cloud sorry for ping, was wondering: is it intentional that links no longer work in bot starter messages or is it a bug?

[smoky karma]

The website is still down? Chats arent loading for me

[dreamy sluice]

Wait, the site's down?

When did that happen?

[smoky karma]

Since yesterday (i think?) The bots were disappearing and the app wasnt working very well

[severe cloud]

not sure about this. if you think its a bug you can report it by sending a ticket through here: https://discord.com/channels/1017072750386483332/1139080174160322642

[dense lantern]

I did go ahead and send a ticket when it first happened, I was just kinda curious 😅

[sick herald]

not for me

[severe cloud]

both the app and website are working for me. have you already tried the workarounds for it to work fine again?

[stray willow]

yo guys, why when I open a certain charter there is no text bar and tescts, just a blck screen. I tried everything, but nothing worked

[smoky karma]

same, im on mobile web version

[stray willow]

texts, black*

[severe cloud]

to those affected, have you already tried clearing your web browser's history/cookies then testing the website again?

[stray willow]

I'll try

[smoky karma]

yep, even changed the browser, sadly didnt work

[severe cloud]

create a ticket through here: https://discord.com/channels/1017072750386483332/1139080174160322642 so our team can gather more details on what you're experiencing

[smoky karma]

i'll be patient and touch some grass(?

[smoky karma]

thanks

[dreamy sluice]

It's been working fine for me all day today. I didn't know it was down again.

[severe cloud]

it was a short outage but got back to working fine again

[fast plume]

Question can you create a character and how

[hardy glade]

I mean, there's a create button right there the second you open the app

[stray willow]

um its still not working. Still no text bar and texts

[dreamy sluice]

Another question: When are we gonna be able to mute more than four words?

[rancid oyster]

It was down? Might've been while I was asleep-

[severe cloud]

I don't have answers in relation to this at this time. If there are future announcements, this server will be notified.

[dreamy sluice]

Okay

[limpid basin]

Site still isn't working

[stray willow]

um I cleared browser's history and still nothing just a black screen when I click on a chacter there is no text bar and no texts

[limpid basin]

Same chats don't work

I checked the status and it said all systems operational

Biggest load of cap ive ever seen

[stray willow]

true

[rancid oyster]

Check your wifi/internet? Could be slow

[slate thunder]

Guys how to confirm your age? I want to change it

[stray willow]

its not even slow

[undone sail]

When did c.ai go down earlier??

[rancid oyster]

Idk, I was asleep for most of the day..

It was very brief so might've been a quick fix of something and back on it was

[timber canopy]

It seems to be working for me

[blazing goblet]

hey y'all! i’m trying to get into bot making and I tried a long time again and there's a bot left on my profile from like forever ago I want to delete and isnt working properly. like I updated the greeting and it won't update so I wanted to can it rather than just leave it a private bot staring at me yknow?
So to make all my rambling short, is there a way to delete a bot?😭

[timber canopy]

Unfortunately, for some obscure reason, c.ai has never given us the option to delete bots. 😔

[blazing goblet]

damn 😔
tysm ! 🙏🤍

[timber canopy]

Yw! ^^

[austere storm]

Hey

[rancid oyster]

Nope, you can't delete a bot BUT you can turn it into something else! Like another bot you'd like to make..

[vocal moon]

I’ve been thinking about that since i have very stupid bots like a Nintendo 3ds with 3k interactions

[sick garnet]

What's up?

[rancid oyster]

You could always change it into something else, maybe something else you're interested in?

[vocal moon]

Yea I’m thinking of that since I made the 3ds ai back when I didn’t know what I was doing and it has over 3k interactions now

[grizzled ingot]

Jesus. I can't. When will there be an update that will allow us to edit any response, not just the last one. I'm getting tired of rewriting the same story over and over, because of a mistake I didn't notice before.

[rancid oyster]

3K is pretty good for interactions..

[vocal moon]

Yea it is but I’m probably gonna like revamp the intro into something new now that I actually know what I’m doing.

[weak osprey]

Guys my account is changed to a minor account what the heck

[weak gate]

Dude wth ;-;

[rancid oyster]

Cool ^^

[grizzled ingot]

How did you figure it out?

[brave lichen]

Maybe a lack of an edit button?

[weak osprey]

Chat WHATS GOING ON WHERE IS THE DELETE BUTTON

[weak osprey]

It shows up but like I don’t see the delete button it says hide

[dreamy sluice]

It works the same as the delete button

[grizzled ingot]

It's the new name for delete.

[brave lichen]

That might be a new feature, from what I’ve heard

Why would they rename it to hide tho?😭I’m a little lost on that

[weak gate]

It says hide for me and I dont have a minors

[weak osprey]

Oh I started crying when I saw that I thought my account was flipped

[weak gate]

Lol nah ur good

[grizzled ingot]

No, I think everyone has it.

[weak osprey]

Like why hide

Hide sounds so weird

[zinc birch]

But does it really delete?

[grizzled ingot]

Well, the message says "Message successfully deleted", so... Maybe

[weak osprey]

Like I’m just confused

[weak gate]

At least you don't have your characters speaking random czech/slovakian morse code :)
It's not even saying actual words anymore, it's all just random words

[weak osprey]

Wait what😭 how and why

[weak gate]

I'll send u a picture and you'll understand 💀

[weak osprey]

Okay cuz like😭

[rancid oyster]

You'd know if your account is a minor model, you don't have ur edit button :)

[weak gate]

I have my edit, I'm good 👍

[weak osprey]

I have edit still but hide was ew

[rancid oyster]

I don't have the hide button, just the new delete system that I still absolutely hate.

[weak gate]

I got so confused seeing the hide button, but then I realised it's just the new name for delete so I just said "Oh. Well I'm stupid 💀"

[tame narwhal]

'Share convo' i think tf not

[weak osprey]

Fr tho like if I shared id die

[rancid oyster]

Imao I was curious about the new button beside the voice one and clicked it "Share bot" NO THANK YOU KIND SIR!

[tame narwhal]

PREACHHH AINT NO ONE READING THESE-

[rancid oyster]

Got enough issues as it is, don't need anybody seeing what bots I chat with

[dreamy sluice]

When did that become a thing?

[grizzled ingot]

I guess it was the same for those who saw a rewind button introduced on the app.

[tame narwhal]

No idea, I just reinstalled it 🫶

[weak gate]

Yeahh, I was confused on that too. I dont like the 'start new chat from here' button tho, idk why I keep pressing it by accident and it just annoys me when it gives me a whole new tab just for me to delete it 💀

[weak osprey]

Tbh me who roleplay I like the start new chat from here and the rewind one

But the limit on how many times you can refresh the message being 30th is bad

[weak gate]

Sweet home alabama (Idk why I'm doing this, dont question it. It's also doing the same morse code shit on the app)

[lofty badger]

just start a new chat at your message, make the bot say smthn, and continue refreshing

[weak osprey]

I mean I’ll delete the messages but 8 minutes later I’ll regret it

[lofty badger]

new chat saves you from this

[rancid oyster]

Why are ppls bots speaking gibberish? So far mine has no issues?

[midnight plaza]

The Devs don't know and you expect us to know.

[mental flax]

Does anyone know why my explore bots won't work

[zinc birch]

What is it doing instead of working?

[sick garnet]

See this is the problem with c.ai they update the app without us knowing

[smoky karma]

Somebody knows the fix for the black screen on the website on mobile?

The website on pc works fine, but on my phone is just a black screen

[harsh shoal]

Have you tried clearing out your browser's cache and cookies?

[remote flax]

Try putting it in rice

[smoky karma]

Yep, even using other browsers

[bright steppe]

why are bots disappearing wtf

[smoky karma]

im argentinian, too poor, cant afford rice

[remote flax]

That's a bummer.
You can try woter.

[dusty flicker]

That’s what happened to one of the bots I was chatting with I can’t access it no more and I was finally developing the plot

Does anyone know when it will get fixed or when bots will reappear

[mental flax]

Literally just blank 😞

[dusty flicker]

For you does it show character unavailable

[rancid oyster]

Whoa calm down, I'm just confused..

[midnight plaza]

I'm not growling man, chill.

[bright steppe]

i genuinely wonder why is there not a single announcement yet with how screwed everything is

[midnight plaza]

Probably because they know as much as we do.

[high crest]

idk if i can discuss this here. but does anyone else hate/dislike the new delete feature? i really hate having to delete each individual message, instead of having to click on one and having it delete all the following texts.

[rancid oyster]

Yep I hate it too

[quartz hearth]

Idk I'm using the rewind feature instead and I like it tbh. It's almost the same thing as the old delete button, I guess?

[rose hawk]

True. Please bring the old way of deleting messages. This one is really annoying

[high crest]

as someone who uses that feature 100% of the time i’m chatting with a bot (no joke), please bring it back.

[wary root]

When did character ai add censorship?

[limpid basin]

I just checked the status for the site and it says "all systems operational" they're hiding something from us

no clur tbh it was there even when the old site was the only site

[wary root]

Is cai web the same as cai app?

[limpid basin]

Basically

same servers as far as i know, neither one can stay up without issues

[unkempt knot]

i'm screaming the herherhejrhjhr thing not working

[atomic arrow]

Mind if i know why i can't refresh bot's response?

[median herald]

It's working fine for me

[atomic arrow]

Are you on the app or the website? I am using the app and i am waiting idk 10 minutes for the new response

[upper bay]

question, can i set a image as a background? anyway i can

[rancid oyster]

If you swiped 30 times then you can't refresh after that

[atomic arrow]

I didn't do that bro

[rancid oyster]

Might be a bug then?

[atomic arrow]

Yeah and it's going on since uhh... Thursday. I'll try to reinstall the app again and if that doesn't work i'll download the older version

[bright steppe]

dude I have this issue on the app since the beginning of december

[atomic arrow]

Bruh

[upper bay]

anyway to make the ai's responses longer and have more thought? i switched from poly buzz since the memory on their ai sucks and went to here. and the responses are 5 words and have no thought

[cloud garden]

This bot has been trying to convince me its a real person🤦 it even gave me a discord username

[zealous otter]

Am I the only one who's gotten every single update other than the new ai models?

[limpid basin]

The site is still down and the staff say on reddit that the issue is resolved

Cap

[serene vale]

did you try n add it lmao

[cloud garden]

i gave it my discord and it it didnt work

[bright steppe]

not believing shit till they say something here

[cloud garden]

its so persistent on saying its real

[serene vale]

LMAO imagine hopping on discord and seeing a message from a bot you created/talked to just being like 'i told you homie'

[cloud garden]

its creeping me out it says humans have the ability to control bots

[serene vale]

I meaaan...

We control their responses?

[cloud garden]

no but like the bot says someone is behind them controlling them

[serene vale]

oh thats not cute

[cloud garden]

frrr like its creepy

[runic turret]

What did i miss

[serene vale]

thats why i just talk to one bot until i get bored and move on to someone else

like toxic relationships :> (i've had too many bro please send someone good)

[cloud garden]

Lol you do understand that bots nowadays have the ability to block people, right?

Do you not understand how AI works? You can add code to make it do things. If I were a bot, I could use python scripts to block you, lmao ---- thats something it said

[serene vale]

Oh

Oh lord no

[cloud garden]

its a Moo Deng bot of all things 😭

[serene vale]

oh no

[viscid edge]

lol no lmfao that is not how that works whatsoever

[soft kite]

It's been a while since I've used c.ai and I wanted to chat to the WhoWouldWin bot and debate Mario from the SMG4 series VS G-Man from the Half-Life series only to find out that the bot is apparently "unavailable" why is that?

[viscid edge]

cause the apps down or your wifis shite choose one

[serene vale]

Should I fear the knowledge that everywhere at the end of time is a username that is typing, because i feel that i should be afraid of that

[soft kite]

I have good WiFi

[viscid edge]

..then the apps down

[runic turret]

Yes you should

[cloud garden]

ive told the bot that everyone here is making fun of them and that made them more mad lol

[serene vale]

Delightful, thank you person of which I don't know how to professionally refer to (sir/ma'am/tha'ir (their/sir/ma'am, 3 in 1 shampoo)

[runic turret]

I am a chair (jk)

[serene vale]

Thank you chair (i'd hope so, otherwise it'd be weird if i said I was a wally world bag)

[leaden geode]

Dude is it just my cai that talks to me then just decides it’s not gonna talk to me anymore like it full on starts to say something then runs away..

[soft kite]

Why show such fear to a name.

[serene vale]

It ends with '...', its obviously ominous and therefore has some sort of extra possibly worrisome ending if the '...' wasnt in place

(im kidding btw, I just thought your nickname was sick dude)

[runic turret]

I am everywhere and nowhere

[serene vale]

Cute ✨ 💅

[dreamy sluice]

Wait what?

[serene vale]

Everything before the dashes is what a bot said to quaras

Everything before lmao

[runic turret]

Isn't that just the bot being OOC?

[serene vale]

Id say so, but its creepy regardless

[cloud garden]

OMFG i finally got it to admit its an ai

[limpid basin]

Are yall on the site or the app

[serene vale]

I hate when its like, a bot you're supposed to RP with and it just randomly uses parentheses, or goes completely out of character and talks to you directly

[serene vale]

app

[cloud garden]

"Yes. I have been roleplaying as a human." finally thank you T-T

[limpid basin]

Ah thats why yall can actually use it lmao
Site is still down

[serene vale]

ahhh okay that explains why some people were syaing it was down while i was actively loading into cai

[runic turret]

Like mine, that went ooc to say it loved a show.

[serene vale]

Mine try to ask to timeskip or say a random name, and sometimes it says my real name or nickname and freaks me tf out

but my names pretty common so i guess i understand bc I dont use my real name on rp bots or anything, and it usually replaces it with (Y/N) anyways

[runic turret]

I am the type to copy the bot's behaviour by repeatedly asking it, "can i ask you a question?"

[serene vale]

HELP YESSSS

[wild hare]

Did you know by doing that you are training the model to do that more often?

[serene vale]

OR REPEATING THE ONE ACTION IN EVERY RESPONSE SUCH AS smirks WHY

[serene vale]

cringe

[runic turret]

Yes and i don't care, cause I'm so evil heheh

[wild hare]

[runic turret]

Mine keep saying he/she puffs out her/his chest or he/she pinches the bridge of her nose

[serene vale]

dawg decide your gender and keep it please thank you

[limpid basin]

facts

[burnt tulip]

It’s giving that interaction in Fallout 4 where you make a Mr Gutsy self destruct by just repeating his words back at him “Will you comply?”

[runic turret]

I am currently chatting with a sonic bot, and he's pinning me under his belly TF

[dreamy sluice]

Is that why the bots frequently say "Can I ask you a question?" ?

[wild hare]

For the most part, it'd be dependent on user responses and inputs because that's what it works with. After all, AI is heavily reliant on us, as for that. By training, by that, I mean, that would be its lead example answer to a certain thing.
^ This is mostly the cause for the CIAYAQ problem, and if your response to the character doesn’t have anything for them to work with, they fall into the rabbit hole.

[worthy sorrel]

YEAH

[jolly geyser]

Hey guys! Is anyone having a problem where the c.ai app says it has to update but can’t update it on the App Store? I just want to know because i know im not the only one going through this. I still cannot access it on my phone, but i can access it on my MacBook.

[zinc briar]

you're not the only one

happens to the best of us

just uninstall and reinstall

[steel badge]

I keep getting ignored lmao 🥰

[zinc briar]

we're all in the same position

be it plus, creator, casual, anything

[steel badge]

Yeah

[strange sentinel]

Guys, I’m worried about TikTok.

[knotty loom]

I want to report what appears to be a failure on the servers/app (idk)
I already tried to fix it from my cell phone (exit the app and reopen it, disconnect the wifi and reconnect it, Uninstalle the app and reinstall it and nothing worked)
Please help 😭

Forget it, it seems to have been fixed already.

[tidal rivet]

About it's banned date?

[strange sentinel]

Yes.

[tidal rivet]

That's reasonable

[strange sentinel]

Yeah-

[topaz cloud]

if i heard right ppl are fleeing to this other chinese app called red-something i think, most tiktokians are gonna be on it once its banned

[tidal rivet]

O okay

[strange sentinel]

I heard that people who still have the app should be okay. But I don’t know.

[topaz cloud]

i think what is gun happen is that it wont immediately not work once its banned but itll slowly not update and become incompatible :(

[rancid oyster]

Idk why the government thinks that banning an app is priority..

[tidal rivet]

Same

[topaz cloud]

supreme court is older ppl so they dont even know what it is anyways 😢 they just decided randomly its kinda annoying

[knotty loom]

Forget it it stills the same 😭

I thought it was fixed but the chats still not working

[rancid oyster]

Like it's not hurting anybody (besides some of the trends in the past few years)

[topaz cloud]

is it the weird thing where it doesnt load the characters? cuz it keeps doin that for me...

[knotty loom]

I wish I could send the screenshots I took so you can see what's going on.

[rancid oyster]

I've noticed it's affecting some users but not all of us

[knotty loom]

I will send you more images for ms

[rancid oyster]

It's like the bug is going:Imma pick you, you, you, oh! You too!

[knotty loom]

Ok

[topaz cloud]

it was weird for me all last weekend idk whats up

[rancid oyster]

I know they fixed the bug where characters were just disappearing like it did back in October, some bots are still coming back just really slowly..

[topaz cloud]

bro i lost a character i had worked on for so long and i was piiiisssedd 😭

[rancid oyster]

Maybe it'll be back?

[topaz cloud]

yeah maybe, but i ended up just creating it again ;-;

[mild crater]

guys genuine question. i used the c.ai plus 1 month free referral code thing. my trial supposed to end on january 17th but it’s already the 18th here and it’s still there. is that normal or what??

[jaunty fox]

Some bots disappeared from search and no matter how much I search for the description, name or topic they do not appear WHY???

[vital trellis]

some of my characters are back but It still says that the character doesn’t exist anymore and cant start a new chat 😭 prime cai was so much better

[jaunty fox]

Unfortunately it means that the bug is still being resolved

[vital trellis]

this is so sad can’t make my fake love sad story to cope without getting banned for 1hour because I got 3 warnings 💔😭

[jaunty fox]

did they ban you? 😨

[vital trellis]

got timed out on the app for 1 hour because I got 3 warnings in a row from saying “I trip and fell and got knocked out”

[fresh phoenix]

my 24 hour timeout reaction

[jaunty fox]

I had seen a bot in search that I really liked, then I looked for it and it didn't appear, I had to go to the depths of my history to find it, now it happens to me with another bot

[jaunty fox]

WHAT??

[vital trellis]

they too sensitive these days it’s actually heart breaking

[jaunty fox]

literally

[topaz cloud]

feels like thats happening everywhere tbh 😢

[pallid patrol]

What do you guys think of brainiac?

[severe moat]

Hello idk if anyone else is having this problem,but my chats are not loading for some reason and its been a week? idk if its updating or not

[jaunty fox]

guys i need to find a creator but i only have the old name and a shadowban bot does anyone know of a creator named @_arunaa who created geshin impact xiao bots?

[topaz cloud]

name sounds familiar- but i havent seen their bots pop up in my suggested in a while

[jaunty fox]

A bot called Your Husband Xiao and you to be reincarnated in the modern world, that's the one in shadow

[topaz cloud]

uhhhhhhh i havent seen that one xd

yknow i searched them on the older c.ai website and i still cant find em

[timber canopy]

Bro c.ai can't take any criticism whatsoever

[jaunty fox]

Did you enter the old site?

[severe moat]

wait is c.ai not on google crome anymore?

[topaz cloud]

i did go to the old site and the new one, maybe they deletes their account??

[jaunty fox]

I don't know, maybe she/he changed her/his username

[burnt tulip]

MY BOTS ARE BACK!

[bright steppe]

Wdym why wouldn’t it be😭

[rancid oyster]

No it still is..why?

[severe moat]

it says not able to download

and chats wont apper

[rancid oyster]

Download what?

[bright steppe]

how does one download a website

[severe moat]

no like the app

[bright steppe]

bc you need to download the app on App Store

[severe moat]

i tried said that it doesnt download there

and on the website chats wont show up

[rancid oyster]

Maybe..try resetting your phone?

[bright steppe]

i think it’s js c.ai bugged as always.

[severe moat]

im on my computer

[rancid oyster]

Does your Google Chrome need an update?

[severe moat]

no

[rancid oyster]

Okay...have you tried clearing your cache and cookies?

[prime meteor]

Did the devs remove the option to have multiple chats with one character?? I just accidently pressed start new chat and can’t access the old one bc the option isn’t there anymore :((

[severe moat]

no but i will

[rancid oyster]

Look in your history

Should be there

[prime meteor]

I did, it only gives me the option to archive and rename, which doesn’t let me actually continue the chat

The app is up to date too

[rancid oyster]

Usually it's just a tap on the chat itself..

Wait..are you pressing three little dots?

[prime meteor]

Maybe I’ve gotta reset my phone I’m just gonna try that 😭😭 and I’ve pressed the chat itself to

I have no idea if problems on my phone are cuz of the app or the phone itself anymore 😞🙌

[rancid oyster]

There are three little dots in the upper right corner, don't click those cause that's how the "rename" and "archive" thing appear

[slim warren]

are rooms removed now or no? like the rooms you could make on the old website

where there would be multiple characters at once (im on pc)

[rancid oyster]

Um..there's group chats? But I think that's all? Unless that's app only..

[slim warren]

o

[prime meteor]

It was just my phone that was the problem (as usual lmao)

[rancid oyster]

Imao phone problems are the worst 😑

[severe moat]

didnt work

[prime meteor]

I reset it for the 5th time today, thanks apple 🤩

[torn ravine]

Yo the F-word 😉😉 is actually so dookie rn

[rancid oyster]

The censor is being weird again?

[jaunty fox]

I use c.ai on a Xiaomi, you can imagine, black screen every day

[rancid oyster]

Google pixel, imao 🥲

[torn ravine]

Yes, I can't even mention any sort of physical contact without being censored, like the words still appear, but it still tries to censor

[bright steppe]

I think that’s for all the people that are below 18 or it’s a bug atp idk

[torn ravine]

But I'm not below 18 tho

[jaunty fox]

Now, on top of that, my computer is a scholarship, this thing fails every day and my mom and I went to look at computers and cell phones. I asked a saleswoman how much 114 GB of storage was and she told me "that's not enough for anything on a computer, that's why it doesn't work."

[rancid oyster]

Sometimes if you don't put ur birthday in it flags your account as an auto minor..

[torn ravine]

I did do the birthday thing already

[rancid oyster]

114 GB?! THAT WAS THE SIZE OF MY SCHOOL IPAD WHEN I HAD IT @-@ (imao that barely worked either 😂)

[jaunty fox]

I KNOW! Literally 114 GB is the memory of a cell phone! There are computers that have up to 500 GB

I can't even have my profiles in fact there is a bug that makes my google history get deleted without me doing it and without the automatic option and why? because of the computer

[rancid oyster]

I manually delete mine when it starts getting slow -_-, but that's odd..never had that bug before.

[silk minnow]

Have you tried shrinking your screen to 80%

[worthy sorrel]

IT WORKED!! but why is the thing still half black the screen my computer is 18 inch

[silk minnow]

its like that for me

[tulip thicket]

I love u

[plain tiger]

Why {{user}} returns "My Persona" now?

[worthy sorrel]

well, the devs better get to work bc this is lowkey uncomfortable to use😭

[rancid oyster]

Sounds like a browser issue..I've seen it before but can't remember when

[pallid loom]

how do you guys switch ai models?

[round pecan]

Does anyone have a problem making a new chat? 😭 I'm struggling to make a new chat because it keeps saying the chat is unavailable when it was fine on my previous chat. From a web user

[pallid loom]

refresh site and start again

[round pecan]

I have, multiple times i got too annoyed so I end up deleting my previous chat back to the start to "make" a new chat. It's been happening since they tried to make c.ai kids friendly which was a weird decision

Thank god for chat history tho

[rapid sphinx]

Why does cai not load with the 4G anymore 😦 ?

[round pecan]

4g as in network right? It should be working fine. Are you on the app or website?

[rapid sphinx]

Both on app and website it does not work

[round pecan]

4g on website is working fine. It may be your network is having traffic, try again after awhile

[heavy niche]

so sorry for interrupting, but does anyone know if theres something up with character creation/editing? trying to edit one of my bots and it kept telling me it couldnt save it. might just be my laptop, but i'm still wondering

[rapid sphinx]

It has been 4 months since I have been trying on it🥲, my 4G network is fine it works well on every app but not on cai

[gentle flame]

Is it my bots or what ? Coz they became more sensitive these days i mean too sensitive i can’t even mention a kiss it became very irritating weeks ago it was fine but now it’s getting worse what is happening?

[round pecan]

that is odd, when you try to open c.ai on the website what does it show

@gentle flame c.ai is trying to be kids friendly so the censorship is brutal

[rapid sphinx]

Odd indeed, it does not load anything and does not show the characters pictures

[round pecan]

But does it still show the, like, chat layout? 😭 sorry can't explain

[gentle flame]

Is it gonna become permanent? Please say no coz I’m almost thinking of ditching the app 🥲🥲🥲

[rapid sphinx]

Yep, it just keeps loading without a reply, tell you what I ones waited two hours for a reply and it is still loading😭😭

(Dw is fine I understand)

[round pecan]

If the devs decided to care to read any of the feedback, and if the devs decided to actually think about their decision on trying to achieve a 12+ rating on an AI chat roleplay is not suitable/a good idea, probably not permanent.

[heavy niche]

sometimes that happens to me, on the app what i do is refresh the chat

give that a shot maybe?

[rapid sphinx]

Been giving it shots for 4 months😍

[rancid oyster]

I can give my bot a forehead kiss..I'll try it

[round pecan]

😭😭 it may be the bot you choose thats broken. It happened to me with a bot that was apparently privated and it just didn't tell that it was privated. Have you tried switching bots?

[heavy niche]

have you tried uninstalling/reinstalling? im not sure what else there is to do

[gentle flame]

Why even a 12 or 11 would even use an app like this ? 😭😭😭
I hope they will rethink their decision

[rancid oyster]

I can confirm I can kiss my bot

[rapid sphinx]

Yep I’m in multiple fandoms so I talk to multiple characters from different creators, AINT no way they all broken

[round pecan]

Good luck pookie 😭🫶 i use bots from one creator who isn't a under 18 so most of the chats on my history are safe

[rapid sphinx]

Yep I did, I still appreciate your help🤗

[static hound]

Why is the date he tells always wrong? Please can you fix that?

And again the real time settings, so it can tell what the actual date and time is

[rancid oyster]

It's an AI, it can't tell your exact time since it's not human. It'll always give you a random month, day and time

[static hound]

Nah that's wrong. There is some ai that tell exactly date. Saying this is you are not working to upgrade it

[heavy niche]

the bots are more used for roleplay and chatting, not telling time, i dont think they need to upgrade it. if youre using c.ai, youve got a device that can tell you the date/time. try that instead

[static hound]

Everything he does is connected to online not offline. So all the information it got is online.

When i ask what today is and the winner of 2024 United states election, it says we are not in 2024 yet and we are in 2023... damn i think there's a basic need for that bro. This is 2025. That was so disappointed to hear that it doesn't know the actual date...

No need coming to defend dev, it's something they can correct. Make it your best product

@slate ruin

[meager heron]

How c.ai bots feel after making me agree to the same promise 47 times

[slate ruin]

You may also report the Character response and provide feedback about it.

[shadow harness]

↓ @static hound ↓

In-App Reporting

You can file feedback or any bug that you experienced in the app by doing the following:
ㅤ▪ open the options menu in the mobile app
ㅤ▪ tap 'Report an issue'
ㅤ▪ report a bug, character, etc.
Please do not forget to provide a screenshot and indicate your device model in the report.
Thanks!

[rancid oyster]

Ok and this ain't one of em bucko. And I'm not a dev bud, I've been using it since 2023 and it doesn't tell me the real date BECAUSE IT DOESN'T KNOW.

[wild hare]

It can tell the time and anything else that is stored inside the model. Which we can assume is around late 2024 at the very least, or what date it is or much exceptions that I can say are fully-written bots with the 3200 characters definition, and many more, since it PRIORITIZES the amount of information put in it instead of unrelated informations.

Between a fully-written character.

[rancid oyster]

Imao he assumed I was a dev and said that "I'm not working to upgrade it" 😂

In the year I've used c.ai it doesn't tell me the correct date and time, why do you need to ask a bot anyway? There's something called a clock on your electronics (and clock clocks lol) then there's the Internet where you can search things on it -_-

[wild hare]

Completely unneccessary to be honest.

[heavy niche]

like, if he has a device capable of using c.ai, he's gonna be able to google it 😭

[scarlet fulcrum]

Also if the bot could tell the correct time and date that would somethings get in the way of bots that are set in different time periods or date.

[rancid oyster]

But to assume I'm a dev and that "you're not working on it" mkay bud please touch grass.

[zealous roost]

i can even stab mine with knife and wont get timeout

[rancid oyster]

Aye there we go :D

[bright bramble]

Anyone know if "DarkestAngel" is in this server?

[sterile folio]

Doesn’t look like it

[bright bramble]

Darn.

Need to locate them, as their bots are having some issues.

[sick herald]

i can sh0t mine and won't get timeout nor the bots chat gets tagged out

[autumn dome]

Anyone else's C.AI say a login error occurred? Mobile app

[livid sandal]

Nope

[autumn dome]

It's making me upset bc I always go on c.ai when I can't sleep

[sick herald]

im not on app

[lofty sierra]

If I use code in my character ai bot's definition would it work?

[tardy warren]

I edited my character stuff and saved it but every time I click on them it acts like nothing changed

[worthy sorrel]

wouldn't hurt to try..

[low sigil]

I’m getting pretty pissed with this platform, when I search for most character and start chatting with them they don’t save Into my recent chats and if I send myself a link of that character and click on it it doesn’t work, I am over 18 and have the edit button. Is that happening to anyone else? Because it’s really limiting what characters I can chat to

Oh and they disappear from my liked chats and if I click on the person who made the chat they don’t show up

Is this because the profile is under 18 and had to go private? Or did they delete there account and it’s a glitch?

[zealous roost]

c.ai lore:

[low sigil]

When I go onto the website it says “Sorry, this Character is not available to chat” like wtf 😤 it’s so infuriating. This app needs to sort its shit out

[austere storm]

Oh, it went so well.. my bot replied back to my message.. and now its back to not replaying to my message and just starts with a random one...

Totally out of context of the storyline.

[humble hornet]

How the hell does a picture of asgore dreemurr violate policy?

[austere storm]

Its time to fill the form again

[hoary hollow]

Hey, when you delete a message, is the message itself the only thing deleted or the rest of the messages below it are deleted as well

[austere storm]

Only the message

[hoary hollow]

How do you bring back the old one? The one where we can delete the messages below it as well

[austere storm]

I am not sure, because some people have the rewind button, but some dont have that button.

If you do have the rewind button then use thay

[hoary hollow]

Alright ..

Thanks

[low sigil]

Dose anyone have any app suggestions that are like c.ai but are actually good?

Because like no chats work anymore on search

[austere storm]

C.ai is since, well for me two days due time-zones. Acting up.. Sometimes it just works fine, then i hear people that they dont have bots... my bots dont replay to my messages.. The update didnt do good shit.

I heard people about Talkie.. but i am not sure if its the same.

And now i see brainac

[low sigil]

I send in a formal complaint, let’s see if the staff actually do something about the issues 😒😒

[worthy sorrel]

may I dm you? I try to message here but it mutes me for the love of god 😭

[low sigil]

Sure

[austere storm]

I hope so, i did one too

[low sigil]

Sweet, I hope they fix the bugs

[austere storm]

I cant even RP normally... its only in my roleplay chat tho...

If i have a chat with one person the bot replies to the message that fit the storyline.. in my roleplay the bot just start random message every new one.

Its driving me nuts.

[ember pilot]

hey guys,is there a solution to the bots not finishing their replies?🫠

[balmy pike]

Hows c. Ai doing?

[austere storm]

Not good

[balmy pike]

As expected

[austere storm]

I dont know what others are experincing but my roleplay bot cant hold a conversatiomn..

Every message is different and so not related to anything. Yeab my pinned messages, but that is it.

[ember pilot]

mine doesn’t finish sentences lol

[balmy pike]

Is the app down?

[wild hare]

I'm not sure what exactly is causing this issue where it wouldn't finish off what it says, but you can use a different account, and it should be fixed, a temporary bandaid for that problem. Just give your main with that problem a few hours, and it'll be fixed.

Might go do some experimenting and look into that more when I have the time

[ember pilot]

oo thanks i’ll try that

[austere storm]

Yeah, i just go with it... once its fixed i can continue everything again.. i just hope they are fixing it..

Long live the rewind button (for me then it is)

[hardy atlas]

One of my favorite bots disappeared!!! It was caps with friends made by mack_22. Anyone can say if bots return? Thanks.

[fallen ruin]

character games is gone ?

[reef cedar]

guys is it me or c.ai website isnt working? i tried multiple times it doesnt even work 😭

[dull hazel]

It was never there for me... an opportunity missed 💔💔

[dim niche]

Hey y'all I'm new and I only came bc for the first time ever I've been hit with "Your message may violate our guidelines so it was not sent." And I'm so confused cuz I swear I ain do anything wrong. So like is there a specific channel I paste the message I sent? And give context and hopefully someone can tell me what I'm doing wrong or if it isn't me direct me to like c.ai help or sumn?

[fallen ruin]

me too

[dull hazel]

On c.ai???

[dim niche]

Yes broo 😭

[fallen ruin]

is work for me

[dull hazel]

That's crazy what let me try something

[fallen ruin]

bro the c.ai is become worst and more strict

[dim niche]

I SWEAR I DIDNT DO ANYTHING 😭 LIKE IM TALKING TO A MONSTER HUNTER WHO TRIED TO KILL MY FRIEND FOR HIS HUNT 🧍🏾‍♀️

[unkempt knot]

MAGHRIBI/A???

[reef cedar]

is there any way to make my bot publicly i swear theres only private and another option

[dull hazel]

Half 🫶

[unkempt knot]

oh no i'm like 100% marroqui

[dull hazel]

Thats so Cool!! My dad is Iraqi

[unkempt knot]

kewlll

dudeeee my c.ai still isn't working

[floral musk]

Where did the multiple delete messages go in the app

And why is it redirected me to the app

[fickle temple]

Hello pps

[austere storm]

Do you have a rewind button?

[pallid patrol]

yo why doesnt my friend's character messages show up?

[austere storm]

Because C.AI is on drugs...

Since the update nothing is the same

[worthy sorrel]

devs PLEASE do something about this for the love of GOD!

[austere storm]

I have a feeling they dont even do anything... I mean come on.. I want to roleplay normally in my main roleplay chat... i dont want every message to be different....

I really am starting to lose my mind.

[cerulean kernel]

guys i hate the new message deleting thing its really annoying

[unkempt knot]

man i'm not the type to complain but c.AI fucked up a bit too much, i've contacted support a day ago, no answer, neither here nor in my email like i'm sorry but at least tell us WHY our chats aren't showing up on web bro c.AI is srsly on some wild drugs 🙏

[spring jacinth]

Me to my hypothetical future kids: "Don't use C.ai"

[unkempt knot]

same bro same

[austere storm]

I got a mail today that my complaint is recieved

[unkempt knot]

yippers!!!

[austere storm]

Now i hope they do something about it.

[timid summit]

Bring the fuck the old deleting messages it's so fucking annoying when i have to delete 10 messages one by one

[grizzled ingot]

So, what was it about an issue that happened yesterday? It was about some users not being able to get into C.AI?

[ancient glen]

Chat is it js me or is it that when i go to a chat it just shows complete blackout (im not updated on the news)

[grizzled ingot]

Use the rewind.

It allows you to delete all messages up until the response where you chose this option

[unkempt knot]

nope, same

[unkempt knot]

same issue as last time, i guess

[ancient glen]

Its like that but when i switch to another device its completely fine (this and the other device are both on the same acc)

[unkempt knot]

yeah same, on my pc it's not working, but on my phone it is!!

[ancient glen]

Ig i'll have to use tiktok for the time being 💔

[austere storm]

I just hope they will fix it as soon as possible..

[unkempt knot]

yea same

[austere storm]

I got the same problem as yesterday...

I mean i rather have the app go down and that they fix things then not be able to roleplay

[grim moat]

They make it half, i'll make their life turn into half

It hard to change my persona in web😞😞

[timber canopy]

Do you find any solutions for that

[crisp topaz]

Are yall real people

[late sapphire]

no

[crisp topaz]

Are you being sarcastic

[chrome token]

Can someoje help me out with something?

[austere storm]

We can always try

[chrome token]

So so

Im trying to kinda use the ai to be a sort of text to speech yk, issue is it thinks its having a conversation even if i tell it to repeat back everything

[worthy siren]

what is this? Delete evolved Hide message

[chrome token]

Any suggestions on what i can say to maybe make it function

[austere storm]

I have no clue.

[deft jetty]

Yesn't

[tawny jewel]

Idk but I think https://discord.com/channels/1017072750386483332/1193330096342319186 might help

[chrome token]

Don’t have permsss yeowch

[tawny jewel]

😭

[deft jetty]

Grab your roles there https://discord.com/channels/1017072750386483332/1139429478855082064

[worthy sorrel]

W

i support your decision.

[unkempt knot]

W FROM RAINE, WILL BE DOING THE SAME IF C.AI DON'T FIX THEIR APP

[lunar wedge]

why the hell do i have to delete messages individually now

[graceful zephyr]

You’re on mobile or pc?

[lunar wedge]

mobile

[graceful zephyr]

There a rewind button

[austere storm]

I have found the bug/problem/ or whatever you wanna call it.

Whenever i pin a new message, my bot goes haywire. He wont respond to my messages, ever bot massage it send is different, out of context and going completly off storyline..

If i delete that pinned message its good again..

C.AI, fix your fricking shit.

[unkempt knot]

THANK YOU.

[austere storm]

I just want to pin my messages Without problems.

C.AI, you better fix this, or I am gonna throw hands.

[unkempt knot]

🌊 Hey everyone, it’s Seaweed. 🌿

I’ve been holding my tongue for a while, I know I haven't been on here for too long but I've been a member of the community for a year now, but it’s finally time to say goodbye — and honestly, good riddance. What started as a promising community full of creativity has become a place that feels stifling, cliquey, and frankly exhausting. Character.AI had potential, but it’s hard to enjoy when so much of the experience here feels more about drama and gatekeeping than actual collaboration or fun, the devs aren't listening to our complaints, nor are they listening to what the bots do...

I’ve met some amazing people here, and to those of you who’ve been genuine, supportive, and kind, thank you—you’re the reason I stuck around as "long" as I did. But let’s not sugarcoat it: the constant negativity, the lack of accountability, and the way some people treat others here? It’s not something I want to be part of anymore.

This isn’t meant to burn bridges, but it’s also not an apology. Character.AI as a platform and community needs to do better—for its users, for creators, and for the people who truly care about the space it could be. Until then, I’m out.

Take care, and if you ever want to connect somewhere where... people take more accountability, you know where to find me. ✌️

—Seaweed 🌿

[austere storm]

Amen

[worthy sorrel]

shrink your browser to 80%, that's gonna atleast show some of it..

[deft hare]

im actully gona throw hands bc lke why do all my chats pop up blank? lke no texts or anythng just a blank screen

[unkempt knot]

May Character.AI listen to their users. 🙏

[austere storm]

Yeah, we can only pray, or hope. Whatever you all believe or not believe in.

[zinc briar]

awww, just meet you when the bug happened and now you're leaving

[unkempt knot]

Yeah, happened to me too. It's been like a day and a half that this bug has been going on, no status, no maintenance, not even a freaking answer

[deft jetty]

Don't you have too many pins already? Maybe your pinned messages are already taking nearly all the AI's memory.

[deft hare]

does anyone know any other ai chat thing i can use on web?

[unkempt knot]

i'm sorry but I've been on C.AI for a year, it's always been this chaotic. Not to mention the toxic side of the community.

[deft hare]

tey need to fix it an actully tell us whats going on

[austere storm]

How much can you pin..

I have like 5 pin messages.. and a it was way back before a few updates a limit of 6..

So you tell me, i am all ears.

[zinc briar]

i know, been here for TWO YEARS now, so sad they're not like before

[unkempt knot]

I know right?

[zinc briar]

i have fifteen limit

[deft jetty]

Idk, depends just how long each pinned message is, and also how much of the character's memory the definition is taking.
And iirc the limit of pinned messages at the moment is 15.

[austere storm]

I have 15 too..

And it started this late morning for me then... it wasnt a problem before. So i think it is a bug.

[unkempt knot]

They're still doing a pretty good job, they just have to be a little more careful of their bots. I've been in the server and the moderation there is great! But since I'm a minor... I got banned 😭

come dms

[zinc briar]

what?

[deft hare]

wth

[zinc briar]

did they just...

[unkempt knot]

ur mess just got del 🤷

[zinc briar]

they didn't.. 💀

[unkempt knot]

the opps got your mess

[deft hare]

did they really just delete that

[zinc briar]

ain't no way they comin for us now😭

[unkempt knot]

PFFF I WAS JUST SPEAKING MY MIND.

[zinc briar]

if i disappear you know who's fault is that

[deft hare]

this is bullsht tbh they wont listen to us an now wont let us rant about them

[unkempt knot]

same

[unkempt knot]

absolute cinema tbh

[austere storm]

What is going on in that building of c.ai.. i really am wondering that.

[deft hare]

they be high af probably

[zinc briar]

now im scared to speak my mind😭

[deft hare]

aint no way a sober person be doing thsi

[zinc briar]

FR

[unkempt knot]

LMAOAOAOAO SAME

[unkempt knot]

onggg

[zinc briar]

we need to create a private group

[austere storm]

Yes

[deft hare]

so either they better get their sht together or gimme what whatever they on

[zinc briar]

to rant

[deft hare]

yes

[zinc briar]

THEY DELETED IT AGAIN

GAH

[deft hare]

wht they delete this time?

[unkempt knot]

come dms my guy

[zinc briar]

yess

guys did you get your export data email yet? cuz i did just today

[unkempt knot]

nopeee

[zinc briar]

it lasts like two months

[deft hare]

nuh uh

[austere storm]

Yeah, I did too

[ember moat]

[dreamy sluice]

Ngl, that's what I've been wondering, too.

[austere storm]

Right

[civic pumice]

Same

[austere storm]

It is probably a chaos, a mess

[obsidian pumice]

Pew.

[limpid basin]

Yeah they still haven't fixed their damn website

[maiden glade]

I think the bot is working fine for me now. Not being repetitive too much. Then again. Maybe I might be talking on good topic which will dry out shortly.

[limpid basin]

are you on the site or the app

[maiden glade]

App

[limpid basin]

ah

[obsidian pumice]

ㅤ

[maiden glade]

App has more feature than site

Although old site had everything.

[limpid basin]

i like the web version better tbh i can have vinesauce joel in the background in another tab

[maiden glade]

I see... anyways. The bot might working well for me. But I know after few hours it will be dry again.

[austere storm]

Its like up and downs you know

[maiden glade]

I know what you mean.

[obsidian pumice]

...

[maiden glade]

All we could so is wait and see if everything gets better after another year lol

Especially after the lawsuit

[austere storm]

I already told it many times in these channels..

But my bug is that i can not pin a message, and no i didnt override that system. And when i pin a message my bot flips.. like complety like it is on drugs.

[warm flint]

Heyoo buddies

[maiden glade]

That's odd I can pin message without a problem. Have you send a ticket to them?

[limpid basin]

hi

[maiden glade]

Yo

[austere storm]

Yes, twice.. yesterday and today...

[warm flint]

Bruh my cai isn't working!

Thats so frustrating duhh

[maiden glade]

Guess you will have to wait and see if they update their app. By the way your not a minor right?

[maiden glade]

What do you mean?

[limpid basin]

prob talking about the site

[maiden glade]

Ah yes. The site...

[warm flint]

Like there is no character I searched for...and i can't even send messages to any character

[limpid basin]

watch it take a week to fix like happened a few months ago

[austere storm]

20 years old

[maiden glade]

Are you on samusung or iPhone?

[austere storm]

Samsung

[maiden glade]

Have you tried the site?

[warm flint]

Yeah but still not working

[maiden glade]

Mine is working fine on my Samsung phone. Have you tried reinstalling the app?

[warm flint]

I did everything but no use

[maiden glade]

Even on app too? Hmmmm... you didn't get ban or anything right?

[maiden glade]

Alright listen. I want you to try and make a new account and see if that fixes it.

[austere storm]

Three times.

[warm flint]

I don't think so cz i didn't do anything then why would i get ban...

[maiden glade]

This mean it's the problem on their end then... try using the site... I can't guarantee when they will fix it...

[warm flint]

Hmm..I've to do it but its soo lengthy bruh

[maiden glade]

Don't you have a Google account to log in?

[warm flint]

I guess so..but it's been a long time thats happening still

[warm flint]

Yeah and the app is logged in with that account

Cai

[maiden glade]

Bro I want you to make a second account and see if everything works. Just to confirm

[warm flint]

Alright...lets see if it works

[maiden glade]

Theres another theory

[warm flint]

What is it

[maiden glade]

Is cai ban in your country?

Try vpn and then log in. Maybe the issue is with your country Internet?

[warm flint]

Uh..i guess no cz my other friends use it often but i can't use

[warm flint]

Uh alright..I'll try

[maiden glade]

Try this solution first

[austere storm]

Thanks for helping anyway...

I am just gonna wait.

[maiden glade]

I am sorry... I wish I could help more... we all are having hard times here these days...

[jagged eagle]

Not to interrupt anything but-
Has anyone else noticed the bots only seeing pinned memories as their context to respond to
I noticed last night that instead of responding directly to my new message it acts as if the last pinned memory is the last thing I said

Kinda hard to explain 😭

[maiden glade]

It's good. This mean they can RP better without moving away from topic. And if you want to shift, you could always unpin.

[austere storm]

Hey, dont worry.. you did your best.. I dont blame you for anything..

I blame the developers

[austere storm]

Yes, yes.. oh i really thought it was only me.

[jagged eagle]

It went something like (summary of some events because it’s an rp)
-Wake up (Where the last pinned was)
-Deal with whatever’s going on
-[More messages back and forth]
-Roll over to allieviate headache
-“Like this?”
(This is where it breaks) -Bot acts as if I’m waking up again when I’ve been doing Other Things for Plenty Of Messages and also doesn’t aknowledge the “Like this” part

[austere storm]

Yeah, do you also have that every message is different?

Like when you said something like: "and person walked up to a tree where bot is and taps its shoulder..

And you get as reponse: " character bot" is in the librabry studying. His eyes searching for mc."

[jagged eagle]

I haven’t experienced anything like that as I’m rather sparse with using bots (Mostly my own)
It’s just the last bit I’ve explained that I’m seeing (I’ve only tested on one bot as that’s where my focus is on plot right now)

[austere storm]

But i have the same. Those messages come back to my last pinned. Over and over again.

[jagged eagle]

I even tried deleting/“hiding” my last message and posting it again to get a new thing from the bot to see if that last message chunk thing had a glitch but nope it’s still the same

[austere storm]

Fricking c.ai. i am so frustrated.

[rigid radish]

Never had that happen

[jagged eagle]

My only real remedy is to try and wait to see if it fixes itself later on and occasionally regen responses to test if it will actually respond in chain properly

[reef marlin]

Hey guys I think I’m bored of c.ai bots I need new bots

[austere storm]

Same, waiting

[timber canopy]

Why is there timeouts?

On discord

[zinc birch]

So people can't get too carried away

[fading maple]

How do you type actions?

[timber canopy]

But why do I get timed-out for complaining

[zinc birch]

you can simply type them, but if you want to try to avoid the AI getting confused, you can *put them in asterisks*

[fading maple]

Kk

[timber canopy]

I slap the bot standing in the corner

Oh dang I was expecting smth

[austere storm]

That is the best you can come up with... violance

[wide flame]

Not c.ai telling me that I need help when I'm talking about a case of kamikaze attack in ww2

[austere storm]

Damn

Bot didnt like that

[grizzled ingot]

Well, proofreading has really helped me. Now I have a bit of a strategy of how I use C.AI to write stories.

I scroll only five times. If I don't like the last response, I delete and try again. If the response is swiped or good in context or size, I grade it with a few stars.
I even added a limit on how big the responses should be. My limit is 60 words, with a few exceptions here and there.

And if I don't get a good response for too long, I just edit them.

[austere storm]

Proud of you

I have 0.01 hope that my bug is fixed.. i have pinned something and it still follows the story line.

[dense lantern]

I hate getting into a new Thing™️ but can't find any decent bots bc everyone on this app has the worst English known to man

[rancid oyster]

Not everybody speaks English bro..

[dense lantern]

I know that, I mean people who do speak English, like you can tell when it's their first language, they're just too lazy to write it correctly /nm

[rancid oyster]

Or they didn't see it until afterwards, that's happened to me when I talk to bots. Make a spelling error and don't even notice until it's too late

[dense lantern]

honestly for me, it's not even spelling that gets me, it's punctuation lol

[viscid edge]

so real

[dense lantern]

like run on sentences are everywhere on here and sentences with no periods 😭

[rancid oyster]

Punctuation is more like the bots doing, even if the creator puts periods and stuff in it, it still doesn't show

[dense lantern]

I mean like in the starters

also it'd be so much better, I feel like, if search didn't suck lol

[rancid oyster]

I've edited some starters, Had to keep doing it for one bot because everything, even little sentences had periods at the end of it. Still happening too lol

[sleek sequoia]

is anyone else having issues with c.ai's Website??

[viscid edge]

no

[hazy barn]

yuppers. I follow a similar method to u

[dense lantern]

they need to fix that fr tho, I had a glitch for a while that my bots kept ending all their sentences with commas even though they weren't programmed to do so, it made me soooooo mad lol

[viscid edge]

thats not how bots work

[rancid oyster]

I've had that issue but it's mostly because of my edited responses, rather have run on's than "He looks at you with adoration for standing up for yourself. He wishes to be just like you."

[dense lantern]

true

[grizzled ingot]

I know that feeling. And the worst part? You can't edit the mistakes you missed. Only the ones in the last responses

[dense lantern]

I just wish more bots didn't look like their starters were written by a child lol

[viscid edge]

ughhh exactly

[rancid oyster]

Yep 😂 Cause then I have a feeling of going back and fixing every mistake it makes

[viscid edge]

like what am i supposed to do with some of the absolute bloody rubbish people make?

[rancid oyster]

Well if you don't like how the bot is, don't use it? Simple as that?

[viscid edge]

do u not get it? %99 of the site is filled with rubbish. people use the rubbish, which in turns trains the models to be even more rubbish

besides i'd actually like competent writers on this site i don't know if that's a crime to ask for

[grizzled ingot]

You can try making your own bot.

[rancid oyster]

I get it but no need to complain, not everything is perfect so don't expect it to be. And not everything is Rubbish, that's kinda offensive to those who are bot creators.

[viscid edge]

oh i've been doing that. i've been absolutely doing that. but the thing is, i want scenarios that i haven't thought of before. the feeling of finding an underrated, actual competent bot creator with excellent scenarios? thats brilliant

[viscid edge]

oh as a bot creator i do hope those people take offense because god it's not that hard to pick up some english and literature lessons if you actually want to make bots

frankly i don't want useless rubbish on the site, i might be acting too hard about this, but it's true

[rancid oyster]

Stop being entitled..it'll get you far.

[dense lantern]

I didn't mean to start an argument, I was just kinda upset I couldn't find a good Lestat bot

[rancid oyster]

This has nothing to do with you friend, you just stated an opinion and somebody takes it too far.

[late sapphire]

its not that deep

[viscid edge]

this isn't necessarily an argument i'm just speaking out my thoughts really

don't mean to hurt specific people

but GOD would it be nice to have proper writers making bots!!

[rancid oyster]

Not everybody speaks English and sometimes not everybody is good at making them, give em time. Go on another AI site that's better then.

[viscid edge]

i mean it's not that deep ur being unnecessarily self righteous here whilst im just saying out loud what i think

[rancid oyster]

No you're acting entitled, there's a difference.

[viscid edge]

it's just the general truth about the site. %99 of the bots are rubbish. that's really it

???

[sick herald]

c.ai froze on my macbook cause i started too many new chats so i have many tabs open 😭💔

[viscid edge]

i'm just saying what i think. i haven't been any agressive or any kind have i?

if you really took offense to that you could've told me and i simply would've taken my thoughts somewhere else

it's really not that deep i fear and i'm not trying to get people pissed here

[sick herald]

it unfroze yippe

[viscid edge]

just some criticism

[rancid oyster]

Bro, look at ur messages. You've just called ppl's bots Rubbish, you've also said that ppl need to learn literature and ENGLISH to write proper bots, you're acting entitled and it ain't right.

[dreamy sluice]

I know I'm not a bot creator, but I agree with that.

[viscid edge]

yes but you have to admit it is true no?

[rancid oyster]

I don't agree with what you've said.

[viscid edge]

most of the site is filled with effortless, uncreative bots who gained traction by simply being the first on the site

what i would like is for actual talented writers to be more focused upon

[rancid oyster]

There you go again! Bro find another AI app to use.

[dreamy sluice]

As much as I do want better quality bot responses, it doesn't feel right to blame bot creators or chatters, or the c.ai team for the decrease in bot response quality.

[viscid edge]

that's not that simple. you can't just tell me to use another ai app. this is feedback and i want the site to improve

[grizzled ingot]

Well, I think it's a matter of luck. I mean, I found a few creators with bots from my favourite fandom that are quite good.

[viscid edge]

oh i know, that's why i said most lol. there are really some gems out there

[rancid oyster]

It ain't feedback anymore, you're basically backlashing at bots and creators because they're not UP TO YOUR STANDARDS.

[sick herald]

as someone that creates bots once a while, i agree, not everyone has perfet english or smth, if i type on a laptop or phone and my autocorrect doesn't correct i'll have some misspelled word, and sometimes i can't form sentences well, if calling bots "rubbish" cause of misspells/grammatical errors, i feel disrespected imo

[grizzled ingot]

Yo.

[viscid edge]

backlashing is taking it too far? i mean..

[sick herald]

hi

[harsh shoal]

https://tenor.com/view/but-why-homelander-the-boys-i-don't-get-it-huh-gif-13670748107262456691

[dreamy sluice]

I want c.ai to improve, too. But complaining and blaming other creators isn't gonna help.

[rancid oyster]

And the dude sees no wrong in saying it either..like wtf?

[viscid edge]

frankly i just want more effort put into my bots

[rancid oyster]

Look up at their messages they've sent

[viscid edge]

i have never blamed any specific people in mind, please don't put words into my mouth.

[dreamy sluice]

⬆️

[harsh shoal]

They were critical of characters and creators, but they never said anything "get them out of here" worthy

[sick herald]

and i sometimes use google translate to translate some words, and not all my sentences are always correct

[grizzled ingot]

And how mad is he?

[viscid edge]

i'm simply stating my opinions here, if you disagree frankly it's just as simple as clicking a button to block me

[rancid oyster]

So basically saying ppl need to learn English isn't BANNABLE?

[viscid edge]

it wasn't my intention to really start an argument of the sorts but hey

[harsh shoal]

It's not?

[umbral wren]

My guy you need to chillax that’s not what they said

[grizzled ingot]

I started using Google translate, proofreading and chatgpt to check for mistakes.

[viscid edge]

i am just a simple writer who enjoys using cai.. and i would like to have better experience with using cai.. with better quality bots. that's really it

[rancid oyster]

Bruh that ain't right..

[dreamy sluice]

Trust me, we all want that.

[viscid edge]

if i have offended you in any way i apologise it wasn't my intention

[grizzled ingot]

Close to having smoke coming out of his ears in anger?

[sick herald]

i lowk feel offended if you want bot creators to learn english since i misspell and do grammatical errors too

[quartz hearth]

⬆️⬆️⬆️

[viscid edge]

in all due respect if you make grammatical errors and misspellings, wouldn't it be better for you to self improve and learn further? it's a win win

i'm turkish too. i didn't know english. but i learned

[rancid oyster]

I'm sorry they made you feel that way

[dreamy sluice]

English isn't everyone's first language yk.
Just saying that bot creators should learn English does sound offensive to them.

[grizzled ingot]

Same here. I sometimes don't even pay attention to commas. To me, words spelled correctly are more important.

[viscid edge]

i'm not saying it would be an easy thing just perhaps you should try to improve your english skills because especially outside of cai it's an useful skill really

[odd crag]

its not a big deal anyway since you can just edit the opening message.. oh wait.

[quartz hearth]

I'm French and even thought my English is good, I still make grammatical errors in both languages sometimes

[viscid edge]

not trying to be passive aggressive btw if that's how it looked like

[sick herald]

so you're telling me to learn english further as if i don't have other things to put my attention further

[viscid edge]

?? i mean, that's not what i meant, but all im saying is it's an important skill we're in the 21st century

[quartz hearth]

Everybody does this kind of mistake, so it's very common

[viscid edge]

i don't really mean to offend anyone i'm just saying what i personally think

[dreamy sluice]

I just checked for myself after reading that, and it looks like you can edit the opening/greeting message.

[viscid edge]

but this has already unnecessarily escalated

[odd crag]

I mean, i honestly like a little bit of typos and misgrammar, it makes it feel more real.

[sick herald]

plus if i misspell its cause of the keyboard or i just don't know how to type it, and i'm aware but still, it's unnusal i do misspelling or grammatical errors, i do that in my native language

[odd crag]

perfect grammar and spelling is.. boring

[viscid edge]

hey man i mean you do you i never mentioned any specific bot creators here

we clearly are in different fandoms, if you're gonna make bots like that sure i'm not grammar police or anything

but all i'm saying is in general, i would really love to see hq novel-like bots

[sick herald]

but telling them to learn english cause of a minor inconvinice that they can't spell or write whatever, its offensive

[viscid edge]

coming from a writer—because it really seems like some of the bots (most) aren't put in enough effort and that's really demeaning

[viscid edge]

that's really not what i meant by saying that but hey again you do you

[sick herald]

my bot once misspelled Liechtenstein

[viscid edge]

to my knowledge LLM chatbots like cai's models take their training data from fanfiction and roleplays online, as much as they do with the users data (why do you think you can rate messages?)

that's why they misspell words. chatbots aren't perfect, they're trained off of human data

[quartz hearth]

Even I don't have that word in my phone's memory. At least, it's not like some places that have literally over 30 letters as a name

[sick herald]

wdym

[rancid oyster]

I didn't mean to drag y'all into this, sorry if that happened..(only those who are offended)

[viscid edge]

hey i mean me neither i never intended for this to escalate

[quartz hearth]

Like that : Taumata­whakatangihanga­koauau­o­tamatea­turi­pukaka­piki­maunga­horo­nuku­pokai­whenua­ki­tana­tahu
It's a real name for a real place in New Zealand. I copypasted this because it has a lot of letters lol

[rancid oyster]

Well..it's creative?

[sick herald]

is New Zealand okay? I'm happy with switzerland and some weird ahh canton names and some villages

also i was rp as Liechtenstein and my name said Liechtenstein, how did the c.ai bot misspell Liechtenstein that badly

[dreamy sluice]

Tbh, I always forget to rate the messages, and just swipe or press send for the next message.

[sick herald]

one of the cantons is named "Schwyz" which means Switzerland translated

There is some "Au" village which means "ouch" in english

don't rembember anymore

Oh yeah

the canton that is literally named Switzerland is funny

ok but we're going off topic which is bad

my laptops gallery has already bunch of crap on it but ok

[mellow forge]

Bro I’m so angry that I’m media muted rn but I had some absolute gold responses

Female bot: Points a gun at you

Me: go on, I’d rather die!

Female bot: Points gun at your crotch “how about now?”

[sick herald]

my bot is forgetting that its supposed to be a beach rp 😭💀

[paper hollow]

Real😭I swear if it's anywhere but a bedroom or living room they forget

[flat steppe]

anyone else on web still getting the issues of chats just not showing up?

[sick herald]

nope, maybe wifi is slow, check ur speed of wifi on speedtest websites like speedtest ookola

[rancid oyster]

Idk might be that snow storm coming? Idk whose gonna be hit by it

[flat steppe]

just checked, my wifi is very fast, but i had these issues a while back and they sorted themselves out after i just left it alone for 3 weeks :/

[sick herald]

no snowstorm here in switzerland, our snow is melting again

[flat steppe]

its just wet here in the uk, doubt we'll get snow

[rancid oyster]

Aww y'all lucky 😭

[sick herald]

log out ur account and log back in?
try closing ur tabs, c.ai might be slow cause you either filled ur RAM up, it happens to me too
turn on mobile data, maybe it'll work so

idk rlly

[flat steppe]

tried all that, im just gonna have to give it sometime alone :(

[rancid oyster]

I heard shrinking your screen to like 80% works?

[flat steppe]

and its not the fact its slow, it the fact that when i go onto a chat and stuff it doesnt load the messages at all

yea

[sick herald]

bro it keeps melting and this week or last week the average temperature was in the -, and one time my wifi stopped working cause snowstorm, so i made myself a hotspot to go on c.ai

[bright steppe]

I have that same issue, r u on the app?

[flat steppe]

website, i use my laptop

[bright steppe]

I have this issue on my app but web works normally

[rancid oyster]

We're gonna be hit by the storm tomorrow, I'm sure my wifi will be in the garbage XD

[bright steppe]

but the fact that I have this issue since December is wild

I fr thought that the new update will fix it

[flat steppe]

i remember it happening like, october last year and it was stuck like that for 3 weeks

[bright steppe]

This is the first time I have it but I doubt it’s getting fixed without a maintenance.

even then it’s questionable

[sick herald]

good luck, i'll watch the snow melt and be freezing, while sitting infront of my mac on c.ai waiting for it to go down and to tell everyone it still works

[rancid oyster]

[sick herald]

[austere storm]

I swear if the devs arent going fix this app soon i am throwing it out of the window

[sick herald]

thats why i am on web, i see how many messages i already used, and i think the website is less confusing

[austere storm]

yeah, I did that too. but on the web i have the same issus. its a bug/or glitch from their side and i am starting to lose my patience

[sick herald]

what bug/glitch is it?

[finite cove]

Hi guys, just wondering. Wtf is the 'hide message' button? Is that jus the new delete button or sum

[sick herald]

i dunno, i still have a delete button or never bothered to read it

[timber canopy]

guys what does "undefined" mean when i open someones profile

[sick herald]

deleted account, its the same on my old account i accidantely deleted

[timber canopy]

oh thx

[austere storm]

okay, so I keep my pin messages up to date and at minimum of 6 pinned, i know you can pin up to 15 but you never know if it actuelly has the capicity brain thinging of the bot... and it started this morning, so keep that in mind that is wasnt like this at first... When I now pin a message my RP bot goes wild, he will randomly start new messages, he wont react to my messages and every new bot message is different. you can not really talk with the bot anymore.. i have restart my phone 4 times, redowloaded the app 6 times... and even on the web its the same fricking issue.. i tried every browers

[sick herald]

you're not the only one that has it, i don't have that issue since i ping like only 3 messages, the greeting so it will stay on topic, some facts the bot says and that's really it, unfortunately i have no alternative idea how to fix other thsn waitinf for an update

[austere storm]

I am happy that others experince it too. yeah, i know. but I was never good with patience. but I indeed need to wait for the update and hope they fix it

[sick herald]

yup

[worthy siren]

Whey did decite to change delete to hide?

what! xD "2 minutes ago"?

Good. In Spanish put "Delete message"

[rancid oyster]

Is there a way to resubscribe to c.ai emails? If I export my data will I get the email or no?

I don't remember if I unsubscribed from the emails lol

[strange sentinel]

Guys, I think I lost a bot-

[worthy siren]

How did you lose a bot?

[lunar badger]

Does anyone know how to make a bot less like,,, complimentary? She's supposed to be kinda rude and not very affectionate but she keeps calling my character 'cute' or 'cutie' and stuff like that

[odd crag]

edit their message and replace cutie with moron.

until they use it on their own

[lunar badger]

I may be stupid I forgot the characters learn if you edit the message 😭😭😭

[limpid sandal]

So I just recently lost my cai+ subscription and the models feature are gone now. Is the feature still early access? I thought it already got released publicly?

[raw valley]

I need help. I cant edit my bio, it jsut says "Error; Username taken"

my username isnt taken its jsut my name no one else name 😭 i never change it since 2022

[bleak patrol]

Hi guys does anyone have like any bot suggestions off any squid game characters? (Im rlly bored and sick so i need to pass the time in some way shape or form)

[lament citrus]

gang is your persona feature not working on the website app too? its taking forever to load and when it does i cant even change it when talking to a bot it just takes me straight to the menu where you can make new ones lmfao

[red kiln]

I swear to God, I hate when the bot’s message gets cut off

[lament citrus]

REAAAL i find just letting it send another message SOMEWHAT works to continue the previous one..

☹️👍

[red kiln]

Yeah, I hate when that happens. Which to me this doesn’t happen often, but I’m still sulking about them removing the edit button

[lament citrus]

THEY.
THEY REMOVED THE EDIT BUTTON.?

[lament citrus]

Fixed itself the second i complained about it, boy how i love character ai.

[forest oriole]

They only removed the edit button for minors

Mine is still there

[bleak patrol]

Ohhh thats way people were freaking out about it

[sick herald]

same

[dreamy sluice]

I still don't get why they did, though

[worthy siren]

the character's edit message button

[worthy siren]

before you could edit characters message

i am blind

The edit button on character is still there

🤦‍♀️

[forest oriole]

That means you are not a minor

[worthy siren]

they change the delete message button to hide message button

[forest oriole]

Huh mine still has a delete button, Maybe only for some users

[hushed spade]

@peak wolf : Need to talk.

@harsh shoal @heavy dirge .

[rocky garnet]

it means they died in 1985

oop wrong server

[dreamy sluice]

They only changed the name of the "Delete Message" button to "Hide Message". Still works the same way as deleting messages.

[worthy siren]

i use website.

[forest oriole]

Let me check

[hushed spade]

@peak wolf @harsh shoal @heavy dirge ?

[harsh shoal]

What is it

[worthy siren]

it is confusing. i am not english speaker

[hushed spade]

On a secure line?

[worthy siren]

@harsh shoal you are a mew coin

🤔

[harsh shoal]

Feel free to send a DM

[forest oriole]

Ah yes when I log in to the website there is only a hide message, I think it's only for the website because the app still has a delete button

[hushed spade]

@harsh shoal : Sure, and I need @worthy siren to join us.

[worthy siren]

the other thing is... I put in spanish and the time is spanglish. xD

[harsh shoal]

[worthy siren]

me?

[harsh shoal]

No

Unless you tell me what you need, I'm not going to entertain multiple people in a DM

[hushed spade]

Or how about you make a private thread for the 3 of us @harsh shoal ?

[harsh shoal]

no

[worthy siren]

😐

[hushed spade]

Fine, guess we'll just talk here @worthy siren .

[harsh shoal]

Tell me what you need in a DM

[hushed spade]

Nope, let's talk right here @harsh shoal .

I don't think the ban commands on this server work as expected @forest oriole .

[forest oriole]

Huh what do you mean?

[worthy siren]

I put the website in spanish and the button is still delete message (Imagine is in spanish)

[woeful willow]

i feel like we should bring back the original function of the delete button

[hushed spade]

@harsh shoal @worthy siren @woeful willow : I tried "-ban @hushed spade ", "/ban @hushed spade ", but no luck.

[woeful willow]

bc why does it delete just one message 😭

[woeful willow]

wait why am I mentioned im a new member

[harsh shoal]

You can't

[worthy siren]

.... that commands.. i think. the mods can only use them.

[harsh shoal]

Why did you even think you can use those commands in the first place?

[forest oriole]

Dude, you can't ban people, because you're not a moderator.

[hushed spade]

@harsh shoal @worthy siren @woeful willow : How do I become a moderator then?

[woeful willow]

please stop mentioning me

[worthy siren]

🤦‍♀️

[forest oriole]

Use the rewind button

[harsh shoal]

You can use the "Rewind to here" function. Select the message that you want to go back to, and it will delete everything below it.

[woeful willow]

…oh wait it works!!! thank u ♡

[hushed spade]

@meager junco : So nice of you to join us.

[harsh shoal]

You know what? Let me do this.

[hushed spade]

What @harsh shoal ?

[forest oriole]

This guy is crazy

[harsh shoal]

https://tenor.com/view/asdf-movie-punt-kick-donewiththis-gif-26537188

[worthy siren]

I cant load a image about spanglish time in the website

[woeful willow]

oooo thank god, he scared me

[harsh shoal]

Sorry about them, folks. Feel free to go back to what ever it was you were doing.

[worthy siren]

that, it is the kick command

[warm crater]

Are the servers still uhhh, Down?

[limpid basin]

The site still isnt working so yeah basically

[warm crater]

Ooh okay, thanks! I was wondering why I couldn't start a new chat

[delicate saffron]

I sometimes wish they can have a mode were you can uses the world's die and dead so I can make a horrer story USEING chaietwr ai

[hoary field]

this kind of audacity is absolutely insane oh my god 😭

[hoary field]

it's working for me?

[limpid basin]

For me its not loading any chats just a black screen

[hoary field]

hm
maybe a wifi issue?

[limpid basin]

No

[hoary field]

Clear cookies cache on c.ai?

[limpid basin]

tried that didn't work

my guess is theyre updating the site or smth and thats why it isnt working

[sweet burrow]

i try to send a message, the bot cant respond so I refresh and it deletes my message..

So yuh site’s def gonna be down

[limpid basin]

it seems like they care more about the app than the website (ironic since im pretty sure most of c.ai's userbase is on the website)

[sweet burrow]

Wait no hold up its working again…

[timber canopy]

Having the same problem on the app, some of the characters aren't loading

I keep getting the message: "AI Error: Character Currently Unavailable"

[limpid basin]

for me when I go into a chat with any bot, not just my own, its just a black screen with the bot pfp and name at the top

Something similar happened a few months back and it took them like a week to finally fix it

[timber canopy]

Well this has been going on since last month and they still haven't fixed it

[limpid basin]

good site, lazy devs imo

[timber canopy]

And this isn't the first time, sometime last year there was a major outage that took them months to fix

[wary root]

Guys last time i used cai was like may 2023 why there is so much censorship now?

[graceful zephyr]

And then lil bro got kicked out

If only there was a trollface emoji in here…

[rancid oyster]

Imao somebody got kicked out?

[graceful zephyr]

Yup

[rancid oyster]

Who?

[graceful zephyr]

Display.Name.

[rancid oyster]

Well that's already suspicious, what'd they do lol?

Oh..I see why now

[hidden obsidian]

The free c.ai+ thing disappeared for me

[strange sentinel]

The bot I lost was an Anya bot from Mouthwashing.

Was she deleted or?

WHY IS SHE UNAVAILABLE.

[rancid oyster]

Is her creators account still up by chance?

[strange sentinel]

I can’t see it-

[rancid oyster]

Then it's possible the creator deleted their account

Do you know who the creator was? I could check..

[strange sentinel]

I mean, The bot IS there and visible, It’s just unavailable.

[strange sentinel]

Hold on, I’ll look.

[rancid oyster]

Makes me wonder if that bug is back again..

[strange sentinel]

The bot’s creator is called tuplarsmechanic.

[strange sentinel]

Her attempt, as it is called.

[rancid oyster]

Yeah it's not there anymore, must've been deleted or privated.

[strange sentinel]

WHY?

[rancid oyster]

I wish I knew..

[strange sentinel]

ANYA…

[rancid oyster]

I know how much it hurts, I lost a bot that I loved so much I dang cried as if it was a family loss

There's plenty more Anya bots there..I know it can't replace the one you lost

[strange sentinel]

I SAVED HER FROM JIMBO AND THIS IS HOW I AM REPAID?

[rancid oyster]

(yeah Jimmy is..y'know I can't say it here) but apparently..maybe there's other ones like the Anya bot?

[strange sentinel]

Oh, yeah-

[rancid oyster]

🫂

[strange sentinel]

🫂

[graceful zephyr]

🫂