SwiftUI Webkit Alto Browser

[devout shore]

like as you scrolled it would just keep moving up to the next parent div

shoot your right

we need our own discord server

@idle bobcat hows it goin

[empty socket]

yk what thats valid

[dreamy dome]

Arc had it right?

[empty socket]

yeah related elements thingy

[devout shore]

alr it just toggles between 2 profiles I made but it now in fact works

profile system is sold

it stores and everything

I know have a better understanding of userdefaults so im gonna need to recode the preference manager since it was a dumb system

[inland karma]

damn u guys build faster than TBC does with 130 ppl on a payroll

srsly nice job

[dreamy dome]

We should make the command panel slightly transparent like the material of the arc one

Or glass ass lol

[devout shore]

ngl the whole Alto repo is going to undergo a rework

the UI is just kinda their for testing rn

[serene olive]

so real

[dreamy dome]

I wanna work on the UI so bad

[devout shore]

then do!

ive got no problem with it

i just recomended JS bc i assumed it would be your forte

[dreamy dome]

Im gonna work on js the boosts are gonna need ui anyways

[dreamy dome]

I don't wanna bloat up the codebase before the backend is steady

Besides any UI would need backend functionality

[devout shore]

https://tenor.com/view/its-karen-it's-karen-karen-it's-always-sunny-in-philadelphia-karen-philadelphia-gif-18156971751044503816

[dim hazel]

i mean, @devout shore I can issue is I can't find a nice way of displaying settings, so it's just the raw Chrome extension "works."

[dreamy dome]

There is a settings menu in the works by cat dev maybe he can make a pull request even if it is half baked just with the basic components for people to add settings

[dim hazel]

wrong settings menu, in this context i mean the actual extension settings.

[devout shore]

hmmm

[devout shore]

what exactly is the issue? just the extra settings or the window size?

[dreamy dome]

Ohh okay mb

Is that ublock origin???

[dim hazel]

yes

[dim hazel]

Just some backend Swift to JS that doesn't seem to want to load as a module.

[devout shore]

hmmm is it on your gihub?

I can take a look

[dim hazel]

not yet

[devout shore]

if you make a commit I can pull your fork

[dim hazel]

only if this was made ontop of chromium it'd be so much easier 😭

@serene olive we needa ban her

[serene olive]

LMFAOOO

[devout shore]

wat you want me to have JOSH

if it said ARC sure

id be down but JOSH just confuses people who dont know he is the CEO of the browser company

[devout shore]

yeah but then we need to bridge to chromium

[dim hazel]

what

oh if its swift native

yea depends

[devout shore]

making a chromium browser would kinda suck

its not worth the time sink

[dim hazel]

it is if you want sites to work

[devout shore]

yeah but then we dont get swiftUI

or native shit

[dim hazel]

@devout shore pushed to a branch

the settings don't work for extensions, there isn't a new tab creating method yet, storage isn't fully made, there is still a lot it's a beta thing

i think a native ad blocker to make would be easier at this point

[devout shore]

native ad block is going to be the best solution but this is nice for extention suport in future

[dim hazel]

agreed

[devout shore]

which download did you use for this? I want to make sure we use the same thing

this one? https://github.com/gorhill/uBlock.git

[dim hazel]

No

Actual ublock origin from the source

Like the actual extension code back but downloading it from the repo would be fine.

[devout shore]

where did you get the extention code?

[dim hazel]

By downloading the extension source I’ll give you the code in a second.

[devout shore]

nvm i got it

[dim hazel]

ill be out for about an hour now

so ask any questions ill respond later

[idle bobcat]

uhh

I fixed the previous issue

but when I pulled from the dev branch

the packages are missing

manually adding the packages to them also makes xcode crash

[dim hazel]

Can’t remember the exact steps but you need to go into Xcode in a different place and delete them.

[idle bobcat]

uhh in the deriveddata folder?

[dim hazel]

Nah

Just got back home let me jump on my Mac and tell you.

[idle bobcat]

ty!

[dim hazel]

delete it completely from here under targets in the xcode project and re-add them to the app

[idle bobcat]

works, but adding openadk crashes xcode...
adding other packages also me a warning
(only this warning seems to be useful)

[dim hazel]

logs or more info?

[idle bobcat]

yeah im looking for them rn

[devout shore]

do it from source, maybe some setting got pushed that is causing problems

[idle bobcat]

@dim hazel couldn't find any more useful crash reports, the rest are just console logs with a bunch of random debug stuff

Termination Reason: Namespace SIGNAL, Code 6 Abort trap: 6
Terminating Process: Xcode [83918]

Application Specific Information:
abort() called

xcode just crashes

[devout shore]

do you just want a full tutorial?

[idle bobcat]

?

[devout shore]

of the install?

from source for both

i need to make one anyways

[idle bobcat]

yes please
I'm really stuck rn
I want to contribute but the thing just can't build

[devout shore]

just swap this to dev when adding (make sure to remove the old one)

that worked for me

i think the main branch is more up to date for alto than it is for OpenADK ig

[dim hazel]

When cloning you can pass —branch NAME instead of going through extra hassle.

[idle bobcat]

Thank you! Finally works now

[dreamy dome]

injecting css and js works

only problem is it is in openadk

[serene olive]

wild

[empty socket]

what the3 windows have different radius

finder is rounded asf
terminal is rouded but fine
arc is just arc from sequoia

[empty drift]

It’s an intentional new design in macOS Tahoe

(It’s very annoying though)

[empty socket]

even the difference isnt unified

[loud kestrel]

fr, like they be messing w the wrong things, obsessing over ai. but the ease of use and design elegance is like a minor detail to them 🥲

[timber wing]

So real

[timber wing]

If steve job rises from the dead he will probably have a heart attack and lay back down after seeing the inconsistencies in apple’s design now

[devout shore]

alr Im working on making to profile system better and adding better support for spaces rn

@idle bobcat @dreamy dome hows it goin

(im not saying you need to be doing anything im just checking in)

[dreamy dome]

I got a system for injecting css and js to websites selectively but it's inside adk , only UI left probs

[devout shore]

nice!

[dreamy dome]

Yeah and it's all swift so native no need for js 🎉🎉🎉

[devout shore]

now that is really nice

js injection allways feels a bit shaky

[dreamy dome]

Surprisingly there is a mechanism for it so it wasn't that bad but needed some troubleshooting

[devout shore]

noice

[devout shore]

spaces

only cool people get the references

[devout shore]

spaces can now have isolated profiles and cookies

[devout shore]

@idle bobcat @dreamy dome @stiff panther what we defiantly are going to need is a icon picker that allows for emojis and select sf icons. (for selecting icons for spaces)

it would be a good way to learn swiftUI and swift while working on the project

ngl the Arc icon picker is kinda lame
@serene olive any good icon/emoji pickers you like?

im gonna go ahead and get tab persistence working

[dim hazel]

Ive got a native ad blocker in the words, it's preforming pretty good actually

[devout shore]

is it based of wBlock? or are you rolling your own?

@aspiringubi made https://github.com/0xCUB3/wBlock

i tried it and it and it even handles youtube ads

• its 100% swift

[dim hazel]

Rolling own

[devout shore]

That's hype

But ngl it may be easier to just implement wBlock

[maiden anchor]

thats disgusting

[empty drift]

💯 agreed

[dim hazel]

I'm not one for taking others' code; I rarely do it in any language and prefer to make everything myself, even if it takes more time, as I know what's there and what it does. If something breaks, it's on me.

[maiden anchor]

also afaik wblock relies on the safari extension apis

which are not included in webkit

[dim hazel]

^ most likely this i've not read the code so i can't say

I so want to include defaults 😭 writing userdefaults keys each time is such a hassle

[maiden anchor]

gl on ur own adblocking tho

[dim hazel]

it's working pretty well, i just dislike how i've done the code so i'm in for a full new recode!

[maiden anchor]

damn

[dim hazel]

first was more a proof of concept now it's somewhat the real deal/better ways of doing it instead of the hacking method

[maiden anchor]

how r u doing it tho?

[dim hazel]

how, same as BNCY tbh

[maiden anchor]

via injecting js code?

bc idt system webkit exposes enough info to do it any other way

[dim hazel]

that is part of the plan to add the remove function from uBlock to remove elements via js/css

[maiden anchor]

lol

[dim hazel]

A bit like boosts but a focus of removal

[dim hazel]

lmaooo, I messed up by forgetting I was storing my files in the raw defaults key, and I was confused when I got a massive readout that I've now filled the defaults (max limit of 5 MB). I saw I was saving my lists there for testing and didn't move them over to the actual list manager...

[serene olive]

Linear

[devout shore]

Send a pic it's kinda hard to look it up

[serene olive]

I woke up 30 seconds ago, will send when I'm wet my laptop

[devout shore]

Jace wet?

https://tenor.com/view/meow-dancing-cat-cat-dancing-meow-meow-meow-gif-14608759981751543562

[devout shore]

Wild amount of time to get wet from your laptop

[unreal grove]

I'm guessing you're using ublock origin lite's approach -- bypassing custom apis to load all filter lists as js scriptlets?

that's honestly the most optimal approach for alto probably. wBlock is a safari ad blocker that's optimized for... well, Safari. it uses the content blocker/app extension apis which wouldn't be easy to port

[dim hazel]

also no

@serene olive this one you mean?

[serene olive]

Nah

Their icon picker

[idle bobcat]

I have been working on porting the settings view to the latest version, should be ready to pr soon.(mb didn't see this yesterday)

I have also experimented with some onbordings

made entirely in appkit

with a little glow on the surroundings

(still 1st prototype lol)

[serene olive]

oh god... onbording...

[idle bobcat]

Do you like onboardings or no ?

[serene olive]

i do but theyre so much work lol

[idle bobcat]

I agree, took me quite awhile for just a glowing window floating with the background darkening

I wanted to get like dia-style onbording

0.0025% there

[dim hazel]

but our onboarding is hot...

[devout shore]

No onboarding

Literally a time sink until we have something usable

[serene olive]

literally

[dim hazel]

bed time but ad blocker works well (kinda still breaks some video sites...)

its also called "AD" block as AltoBlock 💀 i know, very imaginative name

[empty socket]

tim would be proud

[dreamy dome]

wait onboardings have to be done programmatically ? it cant be a video sequence

[dreamy dome]

how good can an icon picker be lol

[devout shore]

I mean it can be but it's not very adaptive

Plus it means you need to package the video in with the download

[dreamy dome]

it could delete itself after but yeah i get your point just thinking from a perspective of which is easier to do

[devout shore]

I mean a video is easier

It's just tacky

[dreamy dome]

true if it can be done with code its better

[devout shore]

@dim hazel fyi im gonna rewrite OpenADK to keep it as a toolkit and move more of the Alto specific stuff into Alto

[devout shore]

@idle bobcat

how is it goin

with the settings UI

im gonna need it soon

[idle bobcat]

Which placeholders are needed? Rn I only have the ui for working settinngs

[devout shore]

nah thats fine

the main thing is just getting the actual settings down

[idle bobcat]

Also how do I make a pr to the repo now that it is just a xcodeworkspace

[devout shore]

i'l send a video but the main thing is you just click on the project file of the one you want(they are the blue icons) then you do push i think

[dim hazel]

I know i've asked and you've told me this before, the current code im making is inside of alto.

[maiden anchor]

thats a yummy animation ngl

[devout shore]

I just fixed the main issue where the tabs would expand when moving from sidebar to topbar mode. it should look even more delectable now

[empty drift]

Looks sick, but man, do I need to make that Command Palette animation look better it's "blinking" too much

[inland karma]

Gah damn 😮‍💨 that look good

[serene olive]

theres something i dont like

[dim hazel]

I CALLED IT

[devout shore]

god fucking damn it im banning jace

[devout shore]

dumb ass doesnt understand shit

[timber wing]

just have the tabs move upward and appear in the side bar from the side

would b cleaner

suggestions

[devout shore]

nah

fuck it

no animation

just fucking swaps

@serene olive cant complain about that

[serene olive]

oh i do

[devout shore]

the fuck you wont

[serene olive]

When you woke me up 5 hours ago I saw it and I was like "eh... I'll wait"

[dim hazel]

did i, or did i not call it

man, this is what happens when you know jace for too long

he starts rubbing off on you

[serene olive]

hey hey hey i never rubbed anything

[dim hazel]

i knew you couldn't help yourself...

[serene olive]

<3

[devout shore]

im so done

[serene olive]

idk how hard set you are on it, but i can think of something

[dim hazel]

this is nothing

[devout shore]

this project is so fucking dumb

[serene olive]

whats funnier is my initial solution is actualyl so much simpler too

😭

[devout shore]

tf was your inital soluiton

[serene olive]

gonna mock it one min

[dim hazel]

only the sidebar 🫡 no animations needed

[serene olive]

https://tenor.com/view/dont-hurt-me-adam-faulkner-stanheight-saw-trying-to-protect-myself-dont-do-anything-to-me-gif-21902039

[timber wing]

this what i said

[serene olive]

seems to make the most sense to me

least movement but some noticeable change

[dreamy dome]

damn that looks good . Do you make the anomation in figma with some pluginm or just samrt animate ?

[serene olive]

jitter

[devout shore]

sry I was crashing out since I hadnt slept in 48 hours

[serene olive]

dw babes

[empty socket]

did this thread die 💔

[devout shore]

no we all moved to a server

[devout shore]

so yea the thread died but the project is still going

[empty socket]

cool very cool

[static quartz]

o i like to join how do i

[fallow swan]

lemme in

[timid pecan]

invite?

[inland karma]

me three

[sterile ridge]

me four

[maiden anchor]

me five

[fickle otter]

me six

[timber wing]

Me seven :3

[empty socket]

me ten

[timid pecan]

7 ate 9 i guess

[devout shore]

give a minute

[serene olive]

fixed

[static quartz]

you have to dm me that bc thay say no links

[serene olive]

https://discord.gg/S5ANUUYJ

[devout shore]

my brother in christ i did like a few minutes ago 💀

[static quartz]

je gave me the link

[static quartz]

how do u know i bove in god i do'nt say on dc

[devout shore]

bro what

[static quartz]

u said brother in christ and i know what it meens

and asking why

[devout shore]

it was a joke 😭

[static quartz]

oh i didn't get it sarry ❤️

[upper coral]

I need a status update! Wait what is there a discord server for this now?

[stiff panther]

@serene olive the invite is gone

can u pls make a new one

[serene olive]

https://discord.gg/QRPPMZPD9K