🪅-progaming

[lyric latch]

theres like 6-7 pms already 🥺

[winged mantle]

lol trumpmobile uses radio buttons for checkboxes lol

wait ig this isn't very on-topic sorry

[fierce cypress]

ok but are any of them not slop

i haven't heard of anything other than npm, deno, bun, pnpm, or yarn (but yarn really sucks)

actually i haven't used yarn but someone told me it was bad so it must be true

[fallen nebula]

bruh it's so that you can't uncheck it i imagine

[fierce cypress]

there isn't a web development or frontend channel so I think it still counts

[dense sand]

Is bun a JS version of "we built a c compiler that can compile linux kernel in Claude"

[fierce cypress]

funnily enough they do actually have a c compiler in it

[dense sand]

Yea i know

One of the damn useless things they added

[fierce cypress]

it used to just be "js tooling with some more batteries and fast"

[fallen nebula]

now yes

[winged mantle]

you can uncheck them though

[fallen nebula]

idk then
it's just cursed, they didn't knew how to do CSS to have a round checkbox but wanted one

[fierce cypress]

normal input checkbox elements are styleable now so they must've actively been trying to make it worse?

[hallow jungle]

Hey guys um weird question.. but am i suppose to install something else maybe the extension on my browser or something to enable react dev tools? ive enabled it on the settings but i dont see it at all

[tired vigil]

You have to press ctrl-R

[lyric latch]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/260896487318355968/1504367204143988757/image0.jpg?ex=6a080c23&is=6a06baa3&hm=56e9ee2622a17d5acb8542296859b930b8aa3a37ed761d345d585beb716139c9&

[patent vortex]

ps/2 beloved

[lavish cloud]

node+webpack is good enough tbh
anything more complex I just don't use JS for

[supple whale]

me: lets make subs nice, for dub enjoyers
me 4h later: what the fuck do you mean lt_donthave has been malforming packets for 3 years, no1 noticed, and its causing nzb webseeds to fail silently and only create 4 connections which time out after 3 minutes and i cant download my test file for sub testing
me 5h later: okay... back to subtitles, finally

[supple whale]

@jade stone end me

[astral sand]

is this enough rules?

[fallen nebula]

what the flip send me all of them

[astral sand]

too much text

this is my server btw

[fallen nebula]

is my deno.json sane ?

[fierce pendant]

remaking my website every month because i am never quite happy with it

[fierce cypress]

is there a reason you don't use vite or did you just never consider it

[lavish cloud]

What the fuck is a vite

[solid gazelle]

use

pnpm create vite

[lavish cloud]

why would i

[solid gazelle]

it sets up dev environment and build script for u

its a must use in node js haha

[jade stone]

not webpack <3

vite is a bundler for the web with a rollup-based plugin api

really good, batteries included

[lavish cloud]

I mean, if all I need is a bundler and minifier why would webpack not be enough

[jade stone]

if webpack works for you, that's fine, but i'd argue that you will have better DX with vite or rspack

[solid gazelle]

well it doesnt take anything to set it up and as sadan said the DX is better and so are the results

[jade stone]

both vite and rspack are faster than webpack (by quite a bit)

and vite is very easy to configure and customize to fit your needs

[solid gazelle]

its like "would you take 100 dollars or 500 dollars" and you said you only need 100 dollars so why would you take 500

[fallen nebula]

vite is just rolldown isn't it ?

[lavish cloud]

webpack is like half a second at worst?

[fallen nebula]

it's a wrapper

[jade stone]

how big is your project?

[lavish cloud]

typically like <500 loc

[jade stone]

why are you even using a bundler 😭

[lavish cloud]

for deps

[jade stone]

just use esbuild

for that little code, it's the best option by FAR

https://esbuild.github.io/

[fallen nebula]

just use deno smh

[jade stone]

as a bundler for the web???

[fallen nebula]

https://docs.deno.com/runtime/reference/bundling/

[jade stone]

you're better served by other options

[fallen nebula]

deno bundle is actually esbuild btw

[jade stone]

oh 😭

[fallen nebula]

the advantadge is i guess you don't have to mess around with shit

you just have deno and that's it, nothing else

[jade stone]

well with 500loc you don't have to with esbuild either

it has a very powerful CLI API

[fallen nebula]

tbh i'd argue if you have 500 lines you should have written proper optimized js by hand

[jade stone]

tfym by "proper optimized"

[solid gazelle]

you need bundler for TS and JSX though haha

Or not bundler other word

[fallen nebula]

not some bs shit that come out cursed from compilers

[solid gazelle]

write already minified JS

[jade stone]

low quality bait

[fallen nebula]

i forgor which shit was spitting out ternaries so fucking deep it made a stack recursion error on firefox

[jade stone]

tbh that's on spidermonkey

it should have been able to handle it

[solid gazelle]

@jade stone @jade stone look

[jade stone]

also you need something to bundle the deps for the web

[fallen nebula]

just don't have deps

[solid gazelle]

new way of making objects haha :)

[fallen nebula]

but why

this shit could be x += 2

[jade stone]

wait until you see how typescript is written

(the compiler)

[fallen nebula]

why are we doing OOP in Javascript

[solid gazelle]

javascript is the OOP

[fallen nebula]

no it's functional /hj (baited)

also Java is the real OOP

Java ftw

i miss when we could use Java on the web

we should bring back applets

[jade stone]

@solid gazelle typescript's Scanner "class"https://github.com/microsoft/TypeScript/blob/main/src/compiler/scanner.ts#L1022

[lavish cloud]

Kotlin/JS and Kotlin/WASM

[fallen nebula]

i said Java not sugary java

i have a balanced diet

[supple whale]

not for nodejs/electron!

but yeah for web sure

[jade stone]

yeah for node.js i use either roll(up|down) or esbuild

[supple whale]

i use webpack

simply because good node:module and .node handling

and webpack is still the only bundler that handles import.meta.url correctly

which is fucking nuts

throwback to our worker woes...

[jade stone]

i thought you said rspack instead of webpack and was going to say how rspack has bugs related to node

[jade stone]

https://github.com/sadan4/sadan.zip/blob/web/scripts/rollup-plugin-copy-native-modules.ts#L12-L32

[pearl stag]

rollup-plugin-copy-native-modules.ts: Lines 12-32

export function copyNativeModules(): Plugin {
    return {
        name: "rollup-plugin-copy-native-modules",
        async load(id) {
            if (id[0] === "\0" || !NATIVE_MODULE_REGEX.test(id)) {
                return;
            }

            const assetId = this.emitFile({
                type: "asset",
                name: basename(id),
                source: await this.fs.readFile(cleanUrl(id)),
            });

            return /*js*/`
                import { createRequire } from "node:module";
                export default createRequire(import.meta.url)("./" + import.meta.ROLLUP_FILE_URL_${assetId});
            `;
        },
    };
}

[supple whale]

vite can be good if u dont use the cli, but instead home-cook ur own shit

[jade stone]

[supple whale]

but almost no1 does

oh no createRequire

anything but

sir use .cjs

https://github.com/ThaUnknown/node-yencode/blob/master/index.ts#L1

[pearl stag]

index.ts: Line 1

import y from './y.cjs'

[supple whale]

https://github.com/ThaUnknown/node-yencode/blob/master/y.cjs#L1-L9

[pearl stag]

y.cjs: Lines 1-9

module.exports = (() => {
  try {
    // eslint-disable-next-line @typescript-eslint/no-require-imports
    return require('node-gyp-build')(__dirname)
  } catch (err) {
    console.warn('yencode not supported in this environment', err)
    return {}
  }
})()

[supple whale]

if you dont do this for .node files you're a fucking monkeyh

[jade stone]

wanted to but couldn't get rollup to interpret the result of load as cjs instead of esm

[supple whale]

jesus fuck

that is horrific

[jade stone]

rollup doesnt support cjs at all by default

[supple whale]

ya ik

[jade stone]

cjs is a plague

[supple whale]

https://github.com/alex8088/electron-vite/blob/master/src/cli.ts

this guy home cooked his own vite setup

and this vite is actually good for node

i use it quite a bit, it rly good

[fierce cypress]

it's a weird half baked OOP implementation added on later into a mostly procedural language

it is technically there but idk if it even counts

[supple whale]

but yeah @jade stone if u dont do this for .node modues we're not friends

because with this you can have header stripped prebuilds

which are ABI agnostic

and run from node 10-26+

rather than being ver specific

[jade stone]

if i ever have to touch node-gyp something has gone very wrong in my life

[supple whale]

i mean.....

you do

[jade stone]

how

all of my node modules use napi-bindgen

[supple whale]

SIR YOU LEGIT IMPORT .NODE MODULES

OH NO

anyways

that code is for dynamically resolving prebuilds based on platform

not actually compiling anything

[jade stone]

yeah i figured as such

[supple whale]

https://npmx.dev/package-code/node-gyp-build/v/4.8.4/node-gyp-build.js#L47-L75

its so good

[jade stone]

i've had issues with node-gyp on windows arm64

[supple whale]

yeah you will

[supple whale]

but the package i linked supports resolving that

ABI agnostic prebuilds are fucking bae

[jade stone]

no i mean runtime linker errors when loading the node module

[supple whale]

i fucking ship prebuilds for android and iOS

and they work

XD

[supple whale]

yeah ik

u meant builds

https://github.com/ThaUnknown/node-yencode/blob/master/.github/workflows/build-release.yml#L1-L70

[pearl stag]

build-release.yml: Lines 1-70

name: Prebuild
on:
  workflow_dispatch:
permissions:
  contents: read
jobs:
  prebuild:
    strategy:
      matrix:
        include:
          - os: ubuntu-22.04
            platform: linux
            arch: x64
          - os: ubuntu-22.04-arm
            platform: linux
            arch: arm64
          - os: ubuntu-24.04
            platform: android
            arch: x64
          - os: ubuntu-24.04
            platform: android
            arch: ia32
          - os: ubuntu-24.04
            platform: android
            arch: arm64
          - os: ubuntu-24.04
            platform: android
            arch: arm
          - os: macos-14
            platform: darwin
            arch: x64
          - os: macos-14
            platform: darwin
            arch: arm64
          - os: macos-14
            platform: ios
            arch: arm64
          # - os: macos-14
          #   platform: ios
          #   arch: arm64
          #   tags: -simulator
          #   flags: --simulator
          # - os: macos-14
          #   platform: ios
          #   arch: x64
          #   tags: -simulator
          #   flags: --simulator
          - os: windows-2022
            platform: win32
            arch: x64
          - os: windows-2022
            platform: win32
            arch: arm64
    runs-on: ${{ matrix.os }}
    name: Build / ${{ matrix.platform }}-${{ matrix.arch }}${{ matrix.tags }}
    steps:
      - uses: holepunchto/actions/bare-base@v1
      - uses: holepunchto/actions/compile-prebuilds@v1
        with:
          platform: ${{ matrix.platform }}
          arch: ${{ matrix.arch }}
          flags: ${{ matrix.flags }}
          tags: ${{ matrix.tags}}
          upload: true
  merge:
    runs-on: ubuntu-latest
    needs: prebuild
    name: Merge
    steps:
      - uses: holepunchto/actions/merge-prebuilds@v1

[supple whale]

ya can just throw in this gh action, and it will generate prebuilds for every system

its bae

actually that one is for cmake

for node-gyp u need smth else

[fallen nebula]

https://rxddit.com/1tb7edc

[patent vortex]

awesome code! what prompt did you use?

[inland palm]

oppression

[fierce pendant]

pretty sure i just made an infinite loop on cloudflare infrastructure and am costing them money

[fierce pendant]

okay my build works now even though it errors.......

uhhh

what

nvm its missing something

wtf are you even doing cloudflare

i need to switch to github actions i cant do this anymore

[echo mantle]

[custom build]

[queen jasper]

after all these buns talk, i only just found out there are alternative to nodejs
-# rather i never bother to look for alternatives

and saw this deno, it has syntax highlighting in the repl, pretty kewl

[fierce cypress]

my favorite part of it

I use it on my phone in termux when I need to test a snippet because the web things suck

[queen jasper]

tuff

also is there a less ugly way to this

[fierce cypress]

mango

[fierce cypress]

I think you could at least do /^#?([a-fA-F\d]{2}){3}$?

[queen jasper]

ionno i just got the regex from stackoverflow

[fierce cypress]

idk I don't think it's that ugly

actually wait fucking parseInt lmao

[unkempt ember]

Why not just use substrings ? The hex Will Always be 6 digits or do you allow 3 digits shorthands ?

[winged mantle]

hello? another js snake case user? ❤️‍🔥

[lyric latch]

yes, not using snake case

100x more beautiful

[fierce cypress]

idk if it'd be cleaner but I'll write something for it (on my phone so it might look bad)

// ignore this
let hex: string

if (hex.startsWith("#")
  hex = hex.slice(1)

const wawa = new Array<number>(3)

for (const chars of Iterator.from(hex[Symbol.iterator]()).take(2))   wawa.push(Number.parseint(chars.join(""), 16))

I think this is a stupid fucking solution now actually but im not a quitter

[lyric latch]

oh my god

just slice 2 more chars and iterate through a normal string...

[fierce cypress]

I forgot how to use this language

[crimson sparrow]

this sure is something lmao

[lyric latch]

oh its take two

i see

still evil

[fierce cypress]

functional programming has gotten to me I guess idk what to do when I can't reach for my fancy iterating things

[crimson sparrow]

const hexToRgb = (h: string) => h.match(/\w\w/g)!.map(x => parseInt(x, 16))

[fierce cypress]

\w includes numbers?

[crimson sparrow]

yes

[winged mantle]

vcook 🐫

[elder yarrow]

🧑‍🍳 No recipe found 🫨

[crimson sparrow]

though to be fair I'm pretty sure this would do some funny stuff if it get's invalid characters

[winged mantle]

wait what I just looked at what you're doing why would you use regex 😭

[fierce cypress]

it doesn't deal with the hash thing at the start

[crimson sparrow]

it does

ignores it completely

[fierce cypress]

it's easier to write

[winged mantle]

if you just do parseInt("FFFFF", 16) it'll give you a colour int

[fierce cypress]

it's supposed to be three element array

[fierce cypress]

change return type to [number, number, number]

[winged mantle]

couldn't you just do this

function toArray(colorInt: number) {
    return [(colorInt & 0xFF0000) >> 16, (colorInt & 0x00FF00) >> 8, colorInt & 0x0000FF];
}

[crimson sparrow]

I feel like that would be a step in the wrong direction of making a clean solution though

[winged mantle]

this feels like the natural way to do it to me, idk

[fierce cypress]

depends on your background

[winged mantle]

you don't need multiple parseInt calls or regex lol

[fierce cypress]

I struggle understanding bitshifts for the most part

[lyric latch]

was gonna say beginners will read this and explode but i realize the other code was already using regex anyway so this is fine

[crimson sparrow]

To split out the color int, sure, but maybe to the initial problem...

[fierce cypress]

regex felt unnecessary yeah but my solution was dumber

[fierce cypress]

this is why functions have names

[lyric latch]

couldnt u just parseInt the whole hex first and pass it

[fierce cypress]

that's what it was intended for I think

[winged mantle]

yeah, that was the idea

[crimson sparrow]

beginners should learn regex

[winged mantle]

type ColorInt = number & { __brand: "ColorInt" };

function parseColor(s: string): ColorInt | null {
    if (!s.startsWith("#")) {
        return null;
    }

    const bare = s.slice(1);
    if (bare.length !== 6) {
        return null;
    }

    const parsed = parseInt(bare, 16);
    if (parsed === NaN) {
        return null;
    }

    return parsed as ColorInt;
}

function r(color: ColorInt) {
    return (color & 0xFF0000) >> 16;
}

function g(color: ColorInt) {
    return (color & 0x00FF00) >> 8;
}

function b(color: ColorInt) {
    return color & 0x0000FF;
}

avoids needing to allocate an array, and also should only allow valid inputs

DON'T HUSK

[lyric latch]

type branding

[winged mantle]

❤️ type branding

[lyric latch]

i actually use unique symbol for this

[winged mantle]

idk i have probably been doing too much go

[fierce cypress]

is it not valid without the #?

[winged mantle]

forgot

[fierce cypress]

you seemed to check for it with the length thing idk

[winged mantle]

it would also allow @00000

[fierce cypress]

what no now you're checking it twice

[lyric latch]

you should check if its 6 or 7 characters

[fierce cypress]

oh I guess

[lyric latch]

because if its 7, its likely a hashtag

[fierce cypress]

you...

[winged mantle]

and you need to both check for the prefix and remove it

btw bitwise operators are not that hard to understand

[fierce cypress]

you seem like the type of person who'd like it

[fierce cypress]

I know how they work I just struggle processing what it would actually do in practice when reading the code

[lyric latch]

yea until you realize JS coerces them to 32b

[fierce cypress]

I don't really know what direction the shifts are either

why can't it be big shift and little shift

[winged mantle]

i guess you just gotta not do rgba

[lyric latch]

its left and righr

endianess doesnt matter

because its a representation

[winged mantle]

i mean if you have something like

0000 0010

shifting right will literally move the digits right

0000 0001

[lyric latch]

bitshifts dont care about representations

[winged mantle]

i guess it always works as though the endianness is big endian

probably a dumb way of describing it idk but that's how I think of it

[fierce cypress]

LE is the more common one though :(

maybe not when c was made up

[winged mantle]

nah palm is right it's just independent of the representation

[royal nymph]

wtf is this

[fierce cypress]

vee no please don'\t look at that

[winged mantle]

like little endian encodes 1111111100000000 as 00000000 11111111 and big endian encodes it as 11111111 00000000, big endian just happens not to do the swapping

[fierce cypress]

it must be the slepe deprivation

[fleet cedar]

Our customary way of writing numbers is big endian

So compared to that, le is indeed reversed

[winged mantle]

imagine little endian in base 10 😭

000,100

idk I think the conventional way of writing numbers isn't big endian or little endian because we're not splitting it into bytes 😭

splitting into 8 binary digits is arbritary anyway

[fleet cedar]

Yeah that's just writing a million as 0000001

Unusual but not conceptually strange

[winged mantle]

does the concept of little endian even exist without a form of memory with numeric addresses

[fleet cedar]

Obviously?

[winged mantle]

I thought it was the concept of byte order rather than digit order lol

[fleet cedar]

Bytes are digits

Computers are base 256

[winged mantle]

never heard anyone say that before, but I guess it's debatable

[fleet cedar]

They're also base 2⁶⁴

[winged mantle]

I'd say bytes represent numbers or characters as opposed to digits lol

even with bcd you split the bytes into two halves so it represents two digits not necessarily

idk, endianness literally means byte order lol

this is just making it confusing lol

[fleet cedar]

It literally means what end you eat eggs from

[winged mantle]

not in computer science 😭

isn't that fictional anyway

[fleet cedar]

Eggs are very important to computer science

[fleet cedar]

Sure but it literally is where the word comes from

[winged mantle]

i hope you do not teach computer science to people

then again I guess it is relevent historical knowledge

[worldly sigil]

https://github.com/thesysdev/openui/pull/517

another multimillion line diff has hit the pr tab again

[winged mantle]

they ported the github issue templates to assembly

[lucid forge]

but you need to allocate a float

guys its javascript

v8 is holy and probably knows when to use an u8[] tbh

[fierce cypress]

still a heap allocation I think?

what no compiler does to an mfer

[lucid forge]

v8 knows best

[winged mantle]

reference semantics are kind of annoying too so...

idk I've been writing mostly C and go lately where things are automatically copied and I like it 😭

[fierce cypress]

I don't think golang does it any better sadly

implicit reference types and ZERO way to say you just want a pointer for efficiency but you won't mutate things

[winged mantle]

wasn't trying to debate golang vs js lol

[fierce cypress]

I'm just upset by it being like this

[winged mantle]

golang is a little better though in terms of values in my opinion since you're not forced to use reference types

[fierce cypress]

I still don't understand semantics of slices, more specifically when they have to reallocate

[lucid forge]

use a functional programming language where everything is immutable

[fierce cypress]

zig and rust do it the best I think cause you only think about how you're using the thing and the compiler chooses if you get a pointer or not

[fierce cypress]

I tend to when I can yeah

I'm gonna be writing a lot of lua and emacs lisp in the coming days/weeks though weh

[winged mantle]

slices are weird in go as they are conflating array views and dynamic arrays lol

[fierce cypress]

yeah that's my issue with them

also wish iterators didn't have to cheat to work

[ornate quiver]

https://kevinpatel.xyz/posts/no-way-to-prevent-this/

[royal nymph]

bro thats just bs lmao

it can happen anywhere

[ornate quiver]

its satire mimicking the onion

[jade stone]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/'No_Way_to_Prevent_This%2C'_Says_Only_Nation_Where_This_Regularly_Happens?wprov=sfla1

[frosty obsidian]

ai slop header, disregarding

[ornate quiver]

https://blog.calif.io/p/first-public-kernel-memory-corruption

[twin matrix]

https://jvns.ca/blog/2026/05/15/moving-away-from-tailwind--and-learning-to-structure-my-css-/

[fierce pendant]

hmm i should make an m4 macro for tailwind

[ionic lake]

m4 what

[fierce pendant]

gnu m4, a universal macro processor. my new website uses it https://loudsynth.moe/articles/the-worst-web

[jade stone]

Insane

Why use macros when you can just have codegen scripts

https://github.com/sadan4/sadan.zip/blob/web/scripts%2Fcodegen%2FtsPublicApi.ts

[fierce pendant]

nah

[jade stone]

nop
Codegen scripts so good

[fierce pendant]

i like gnu m4 unix hell more

[stoic depot]

oh god my curse of reading "ts" as "this" is back

[winged mantle]

afdkjdfjk key will also replace the access of the key field on the hash table entry i hate this

using macros for generics is super annoying

I guess there's only one good way and that's template headers

[fierce cypress]

did you find it from tsoding

[fierce pendant]

no

i do watch tsoding but i got m4 from grok <3

[fierce cypress]

what was your query lmao

[fierce pendant]

idk i forgor

[jade stone]

You should rewrite my entire website using m4

[dense sand]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1372978041286033601/1505628657673043968/k0p4xwm.png?ex=6a0b5175&is=6a09fff5&hm=c939a3c5aea40c5e620bb8bd91e27a0f2f3f1b7a62c4e6ba956994d3d7ca61bc&

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1012016635713953862/1505633747830182031/image.png?ex=6a0b5632&is=6a0a04b2&hm=e56e8616f80ca2e418b3be7d3e94580d52d9258bb9760af7f70df1a3866d16a3&

[lyric latch]

gnu m4, an open source rifle

[fierce pendant]

you should read my blog article

[supple whale]

in the next version of bun

you choose the slop level of your code execution

bun run index.js --Sfast
bun run index.js --S3
bun run index.js --S2
bun run index.js --Ss
bun run index.js --Sz

XD

[frosty obsidian]

there is no "no slop" option

[winged mantle]

-S0

[vagrant crescent]

why not js keep it in zig 💔

yeah node was always the way to go

[supple whale]

BUNSLOP MENTIONED

SLOP SLOP SLOP SLOP GET PREGNANT GET PREGNANT GET PREGNANT

[pearl parrot]

[vagrant crescent]

https://giphy.com/gifs/stare-cooked-master-shifu-dwzbqcZT2IubAR6oRg

[supple whale]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ni4Dsh4u6-E

[vagrant crescent]

@xibrox

you should send that to ibro

he will enjoy that

[winged mantle]

as fond as I am for C I feel like generic programming in it is not something I'd wish upon my worst enemy

I feel like there really is no good way to do templates idk

well I gave up because template headers are annoying and for macros I needed typeof and wasn't using c23 or something

[jade stone]

Just use c++ with only templates

[fierce cypress]

why would you even use bun at that point?

[fierce cypress]

you'd like comptime in zig

[winged mantle]

idk I think i am just sticking to c because i am too lazy to learn a new lang

[winged mantle]

do know a fair bit of C++ though

could just do this

just kjsekjg idk

[frosty obsidian]

fails with an exception

[frosty obsidian]

bun users love slop what can i say

[stoic depot]

c++30 standard leaked

[lyric latch]

why is there a buttplug after pre and post

[pseudo sierra]

looks like tee and the ligeature for |> some fonts have

[fierce cypress]

you should try uiua

[stoic depot]

is this an april fools language

[worldly sigil]

100 tons of syntactic sugar

[stoic depot]

it looks awesome. I'm porting vencord to it rn actually

thanks for showing me it

unironically this is kinda sick

[jade stone]

How

Text is more descriptive than a symbol

And you don't have to remember anything

[stoic depot]

well specifically just the dice being a random number "call"

everything else seems horrible

like imagine inserting these

having to scroll and scroll

that's why I don't get chinese or japanese

[jade stone]

That's terrible too lol

[stoic depot]

because they are logogram languages

seems very difficult to learne

even arabic is easier

well at least to me

KILLLLLLLL

[tired vigil]

You can just type the ascii name of a function and it will convert it

[jade stone]

that's not what i really meant

it's easier to read the name of something and infer what it does compared to a symbol

[lyric latch]

depends

[fierce cypress]

I don't know any math symbols and whatnot so text always works better for me

[fierce cypress]

I sometimes feel shame for knowing so many useless programming languages

[stoic depot]

are my eyes genuinely broken

or does the white pill inside look like its off center

like it needs to be shifted to the left, even though it IS pixel perfect

like by source it has 8 pixels of width and 8 pixels of height of margin, upscaled it might be different but they're still equal

and it just doesn't feel that way

[indigo yew]

border-radius 0 then measure in image editor app

[signal wadi]

Compiled ffmpeg myself for my app because i aint need no support for obscure formats

and damn

100MB -> 16MB

[dense sand]

Today i defended my final theses and when i mentioned my plans about rewrite to tanstack the oponnent started laughing about the recent security vulnerabilities

[lyric latch]

do they update their dependencies every 2s

[wide current]

has anyone noticed the native discord app spawning hundreds of X11 clients 🤔 vesktop doesn't, luckily

[lucid forge]

thats not how you type uiua or chinese or japanese

you need an input method

on uiua theres an lsp. or you can just let the formatter run

for east asian languages you can type what the character is read like

and also they existed before computers ? 😭
actually apl is so old they had typewriters used for it. u could just make an uiua keyboard

[stoic depot]

I wasn't saying that you type those using that menu

I was pretty sure kanji from japanese and stuff and hanzi iirc from both mandarin and cantonese have logogram characters and they use input methods like romaji and pinyin respectively

and specifically uiua must've been typed in some way, and I didn't really expect it was the actual symbols thing in windows+. page

[fierce pendant]

uiua mentioned peak

[lucid forge]

this is actually just lean tho

[lucid forge]

yeah but you still dont scroll anything

uiua doesnt actually have an insane amount of characters

though tbh its grown quite a bit

[stoic depot]

what do the bisexual and trans colored glyphs do 😭

[lucid forge]

that's 'both' and 'transpose'

[stoic depot]

that's awesome

[fierce cypress]

well your screenshot doesn't show the other side so I can't tell

[stoic depot]

why should that matter

honestly looking at it again it looks fine, but every now and then it just looks off

its my eyes

[stoic depot]

since im not talknig about the entire thing being pixel perfect but the top left corner

but here

it is intentionally longer for the scrollbar

the rest of the sides are 8px

[fierce cypress]

ohh yeah that would annoy me too

[stoic depot]

i think its just an illusion

[fierce cypress]

stuff like this is really hard to remember for me idk

I might like it if I could just always make it ascii

[stoic depot]

im gonna be honest anyone who uses an avatar decoration that blocks off your everything for like a good 4 seconds pisses me off

[fierce cypress]

the one that flooded their profile with "milk" was really sudden and I couldn't stop laughing when I first saw it

[tired vigil]

I love obnoxious profile decorations

[supple whale]

wait till i show you some cool CSS

that removes EVERYTHING nitro related from discord

well i would, but it brokey and i cba fixing

XD

it only removes like 60% of the shit

[stoic depot]

thanks developer

this is like when minecraft mods make their mixin priority like super high because they think they're so good (when it can clash with others)

[jade stone]

@calm ruin

[jade stone]

nah that's !important

[stoic depot]

im: so !important;

[calm ruin]

ngl I would write that code

[stoic depot]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1405410457338253472/1460331622451773511/attachment.gif

[jade stone]

@supple whale FIVE FUKCING LINKED PRS

NONE MERGED

https://github.com/facebook/react/issues/34775

oh hey

my exact fucking issue

[pseudo sierra]

satan banned from ever touching software again cuz he'll some fucking how always find a million bugs in it

[jade stone]

it isn't just me this time :D

[pseudo sierra]

I mean still ur fault for using react tbh

[jade stone]

i should try out astro again

[pseudo sierra]

yop

[worldly sigil]

at this point react is going to become the next cobol

[stoic depot]

just tried using microsoft word i wanna kms

im gonna need like 10 hours gameplay time to remember keybinds to insert latex and stuff

otherwise its unusable for me

[fierce cypress]

like a billion college students learned react in hopes of getting a job

I don't think that's true

[worldly sigil]

meant it in more of a "fragile 10000 line jsx file that no one wants to maintain or touch"

[fierce pendant]

try pandoc

[stoic depot]

can I still export to microslop's docx format

or if there is a converter

because anything would be better

my most important thing is just latex honestly

my school forces me to

[stoic depot]

,i wanted to ping

[signal oak]

https://rasakami.blogspot.com/2013/03/laman-mudah-ping-blog-anda-ping-device.html

[stoic depot]

dude what is that and why is it so cool

[fierce pendant]

yes

[austere dragon]

weneed to say grace

[fierce cypress]

like they actually take latex files or is it the only one with docx support?

[stoic depot]

they force me to upload .docx stuff and no other formats

but I'm going to test out pandoc since uh loudlysynthesized talked about it and anything will be better than microsoft word

since it can convert to docx

[fierce cypress]

pandoc seems to maybe support typst too but it seems vague
https://github.com/typst/typst/discussions/2561#discussioncomment-16011826

[stoic depot]

it might be good to start using typst then and converting with pandoc but this is all like kinda brainstorming I'll test it all later

[fierce cypress]

typst is just supposed to be latex but less stupid so idk how much value you'd get from it

[stoic depot]

hmm...

no I see that, I'm testing out it's math thing right now

this is honestly pretty neat

I like typing latex like like the desmos kind of latex where you're like typing in it

[stoic depot]

but I love this a lot

it's weird since I think most people would prefer the latter but I don't mind the typst math mode

I'll try to use it more and see it's capabilities like whitespace and other stuff and see if I end up hating it

ty !!

[fierce cypress]

oh pawsome

I like it more since it seems more similar to programming languages than markup so easier to remember

[stoic depot]

yeahh

it basically is a programming language too

it has a lot of stuff omg

literally variables

[stoic depot]

neat

never thought I would have the need to do this but now that I can I want to

[signal wadi]

oh god what is this

[fierce cypress]

scroll up

[vagrant crescent]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=99fxuUAie60

WHAT THE FUCK

ON LIVE TOO 😭

[stoic depot]

why does zoom out of all apps need ai

also holy fuck social anxiety is over

I can't stand another minute in that meeting

[fierce cypress]

• text search but worse (assuming this had a competent one to begin with)
• lose or misinterpret important details by hoping the slop machine gets the right ide
• vague
• mutuals tab (again, if the app was good in the first place)
• clicking on their profile
• lies. no llm can actually figure out how to look things up unless you blackmail it

[stoic depot]

yeah no literally

[jade stone]

@supple whale

[fierce cypress]

what did I do to deserve this

[supple whale]

haha

haha

hahahaha

hahaha

hahahahahahah

actuall fucking idiot monkeys on typewriters

[stoic depot]

click click to reveal

:3

[supple whale]

https://tenor.com/view/type-typing-working-office-monkey-gif-13259034

[jade stone]

who? chrome devs?

[supple whale]

no the person who wrote that component

[jade stone]

[fierce cypress]

what do you think is under the red scribvle

[supple whale]

was it you?

HAHAHAHA

that makes it like x10 funnier

[stoic depot]

just click it

[jade stone]

what should i have done 😭

[supple whale]

want to know how i read what is written there?

[fierce cypress]

LOL

I totally fell for it

[stoic depot]

idk if this is my autism but I've been collecting error pages

I used one of those for a fake page

[fierce cypress]

I was very confused how it managed to say my ip AND ask me to click to reveal

[jade stone]

wdym

[stoic depot]

that's how it is in normal cloudflare

[fierce cypress]

interesting

[supple whale]

// the end user cannot configure their GPU on linux correctly, generic linux shit
// they dont realise that blur is consistently some of the most expensive thing to compute in rendering, even with a gpu, and blur over 6px should never be used
// some1 explaining that
// another person explaining that

[fierce cypress]

my ip starts with 93 I think

it's always 93

[jade stone]

firefox handles it without issue

[supple whale]

likely because it attaches to gpu

because inser linux gpu config skill issue here

[fierce cypress]

nix fixes this

nvidia stuff is one of the biggest eye openers for nix being life

[jade stone]

i'm using AMD 😭

[supple whale]

but yeah TLDR you're MEGA skill issuing here, and if you ever use CSS blur >6px ur balls should be cut off

as the compute for blur is EXPONENTIAL

[jade stone]

chrome seems to pick up my gpu

[jade stone]

4px blur

[supple whale]

we're talking O(n)=n^2 where N is the number of sampled pixels

[supple whale]

SURE DOESNT LOOK LIKE IT BUDDY

[supple whale]

then yeah that's fine

react is likely being react, and spamming repaints, or you're animating something like width/height like a typewriter monkey

and its spamming repaints

[jade stone]

OH

@supple whaleHOW

[supple whale]

which re-computes blur EVERY FRAME

so open this in devtools

and check how much CSS cope you're experiencing

[fierce cypress]

I fucking wish but I'm waiting till 7900 xtx or xt comes down in price before bothering upgrading

[jade stone]

no, this is an issue with anything moving in the background

a generic canvas animation will trigger it

[supple whale]

come VC

[fierce cypress]

not interested in a 9070 xt because it's weaker with raw performance and that's all I care about

[supple whale]

https://discord.com/channels/1015060230222131221/1032756252167639040

[fierce cypress]

why are you in the regulars one if you want people to join

[royal nymph]

discord has a vc background blur animation that they disable if no hardware acceleration

without it, it's giga laggy; with it it's fine

[jade stone]

i launch brave with --ignore-gpu-blocklist once

close brave

now gpu acceleration works even without the flag

how

[supple whale]

[pseudo sierra]

more reasons to ban salad from ever interacting with puters tbh

forced to become a monk in the alps

[supple whale]

trully

man

he was painting on a canvas every frame, without using desnychronized

i mean every1 that ever used canvases ever has made that mistake at least once

why do people never optimise UI for minimal repaints

[pseudo sierra]

why are you asking webdevs to optimize you know full well most of them don't even know what that means

[supple whale]

idk i do it

i go to insane lengths to optimise my code

[pseudo sierra]

you see you have a brain

salad does not

salad is the common webchud

[fierce cypress]

what does frontend optimization look like? do you use frontend frameworks at all?

[pseudo sierra]

pretty much like any other optimization just reduce the amount of work needed to do for the same result

[fierce cypress]

I guess browser devtools do have profilers

[jade stone]

they're really good too

[fierce cypress]

I once saw a showcase on all the cool shit you can do with the debugger but I forgot most of it

[jade stone]

you can do a bunch of fancy breakpoints

the profiler can give you a line-by-line breakdown in your source code

[fierce cypress]

"breakdown"

[stoic depot]

does this mean like time over like 10 seconds or something because idk how one call could be 1.8 ms IN a render loop

[jade stone]

total time over entire profile

[stoic depot]

I've never used it before but I would like to understand

I seeee

[jade stone]

like a flamegraph

[stoic depot]

that does make more sense

[fierce cypress]

95% of the time I see this word it's from an llm

along with "hit the nail on the head"

[stoic depot]

"You've found the Smoking Gun"

[fierce cypress]

god damn it

[stoic depot]

only gemini bro

[fierce cypress]

outing ourselves 😭

[stoic depot]

it's ok

some guy made this pr in my repo and they made fixes to something that never was broken and idk if I'm trying to be too nice but this sentence keeps bugging me because

[fierce cypress]

I hope I'll have my next gpu by the time they stop free tiers

[stoic depot]

using ai with respect is different then just pasting the output of an ai in a pr

[fierce cypress]

exclamation mark really sells it

normal person would say like "oh yeah I guess so" or something after you explained your thing

I guess using me as a point of reference for "normal" isn't a good idea but I don't sound like a clanker at least

people on linkedin always sounded like this

[royal nymph]

lovely ai slop just close and block don't even have to feel guilty

[fierce cypress]

vencord should move to codeberg for this reason

[vagrant crescent]

what if the guy actually meant it and it came from him https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/922302611238047774.webp?size=48&animated=true&name=Eyes&lossless=true

[ivory heath]

its funny how many people act like moving to codeberg will fix this.
the only thing that will actually be better on codeberg is uptimes as github can no longer sustain > 80%

[jade stone]

It's bad, but they're only at 85% not sub 80

[ivory heath]

I meant to say 90

it is amazing to me they cant even keep one sigma of uptime

I should get gemini to slop make me GUI

[supple whale]

yeah codeberg solves nothing

its github or self-hosted

there's really nothing else

[ivory heath]

it solves uptime at least

download speeds however

[fierce cypress]

idk i feel like a lot of linkedin ai bros only use github

[ivory heath]

the slop will continue till moral improves

also pyqt is kinda cool

[fierce cypress]

downloads speeds max out at 2mb/s for me on gh but codeberg is a little better

idk why their servers hate me, i tried fixing it

[pseudo sierra]

git over mailing list would solve slop prs tbh

at least partly

[fierce cypress]

worse for reading

[ivory heath]

if one were to actually get into JS slop development for basic guis..... is there some new hype other than react

[fierce cypress]

just use anything and host a local website on end user's computer

svelte was pretty cool i guess

[jade stone]

Use whatever you're most comfortable with

[royal nymph]

won't solve

[jade stone]

React, svelte and vue are all good choices

[royal nymph]

codeberg has wayyy worse uptime than github

[ivory heath]

I dont know anything in the JS ecosystem and i want to subject myself to horrors

[royal nymph]

unless they fixed it

[ivory heath]

they did

for a few weeks i could barely clone any repo

[royal nymph]

main reason I stopped using codeberg at all is because of way too much downtime and lag

[jade stone]

It has been snappier for me recently

[royal nymph]

that's nice

[fierce cypress]

don't use js ecosystem

oh yeah you'd probably like go templ

[ivory heath]

i do

[royal nymph]

htmx

the zoomers love shilling this

[ivory heath]

i TRY and ask what JS slop i should use and the first responses are DONT USE JS

[fierce cypress]

no your first response was svelte

[royal nymph]

svelte isnt slop

[fierce cypress]

this person sees all js as slop

(i think)

[ivory heath]

yes

[fierce cypress]

i enjoyed using it when i did frontend for a little bit

[pseudo sierra]

cuz it is

but yeah svelte is less slop than average for js

[fierce cypress]

scoped styles my beloved

[royal nymph]

erm not all js is slop

[fierce cypress]

also the guide will tell you about deep state reactivity and runes in the first bit of it but i swear they're not trying to curse you

[ivory heath]

CSS drives me insane. I can see why there are multiple frameworks people use on top of raw css files

[fierce cypress]

tailwind is pretty nice if you have reusable components

i used to hate it because it looks ugly on first impression but it makes sense if you give it some time

the fact that BOM exists should be reaosn enough to use tailwind

[royal nymph]

tailwind is slop

ai solidified tailwind's slopness even further

[young flicker]

tailwind is nice but like usually I just end up writing normal css because astro makes it insanely easy to do so

also tailwind is aislop and the configuration is abysmal

[fierce cypress]

configration got a lot better with tailwind 4 at least

i'm unsure if i'd prefer scoped styles or tailwind at this point

[young flicker]

they don't know how to make a good api it's insane

hop on astro

[fierce cypress]

i hated reading even small components without tailwind because i kept having to scroll back and forth to see what styles were going where

[royal nymph]

simple, svelte/astro styles are best

[fierce cypress]

i already use astro

[young flicker]

svelte is already so ugly you might as well use tailwind to make it uglier

[fierce cypress]

i strongly believe in locality of behavior

[royal nymph]

you just put the styles in the same file as your html and they're all scoped so you dont even need to use classnames if you separate components well

[fierce cypress]

yeah i know

i still found it harder to read

[young flicker]

svelte syntax weirder than nix

[royal nymph]

astro/svelte styles also encourage using semantic html elements more so you have unique selectors without classes

[young flicker]

yoppp

[fierce cypress]

you should be using those anyway though

[young flicker]

something like astro but with less dependencies and uses deno would be so good @delicate root

[royal nymph]

most people dont

[fierce cypress]

idk it seemed normal to me after svelte 5

[royal nymph]

why deno 😭

[young flicker]

ydgi

[young flicker]

have you even used deno recently

[royal nymph]

no because why would i

nodejs is good

[young flicker]

it's significantly better than it used to be

[fierce cypress]

the only weird parts about nix syntax to me is escaping ${ in a multiline string and the url string syntax (now deprecated)

[young flicker]

deno just simplifies everything and has an amazing stdlib

[fierce cypress]

node stdlib is also pretty good, just that docs aren't that pleasant to navigate (last time i chekced)

[young flicker]

deno.json lets you configure basically everything and it keeps everything centralised and dead simple
package meta, lint and format config, experimental features, and scripts and more are all in deno.json

[young flicker]

denos stdlib uses more semantic and modern js features from what I've seen

it has great async apis

[fierce cypress]

i haven't used deno outside the repl but i might if i ever need to write js again (used to be a bunner)

[young flicker]

doing parallel async in deno is also dead simple

there's a ton more but I haven't explored much

[ivory heath]

parallel async is a funny thing to say

[royal nymph]

why

[young flicker]

wdym

[ivory heath]

async often (and in the case of js isnt) parallel

[royal nymph]

the waiting parts are parallel

so yes it is parallel

[young flicker]

I had to make a image scraper script in deno and it was insanely easy to parallelise it
I forgot which deno package provides it

[fierce cypress]

Promise.allSettled?

[ivory heath]

thats nearly always implicit cross languages

its just a weird way to phrase it

What is the difference between a promise and a future?

[young flicker]

only thing I hate about deno is it's relatively undocumented and isn't well search indexed so I can't find what I mean

[fierce cypress]

naming

[ivory heath]

a future is a read-only placeholder view of a variable, while a promise is a writable, single assignment container which sets the value of the future.

[fierce cypress]

useless vagueslop

[ivory heath]

yeah cause a functions you are waiting the result of can be a "promise", invalidating this

or youre python and just call it all a future

[fierce cypress]

rust futures and js promises have basically no difference other than eager/lazy but that's not from the name

[ivory heath]

i wish some sort of future system was in the GO! stdlib

[young flicker]

I think I misunderstood what parallel means

[ivory heath]

did you you mean concurrent

[young flicker]

https://jsr.io/@std/async@1.3.0/doc/~/pooledMap
I used this

[young flicker]

yes

[royal nymph]

just use https://github.com/chebyrash/promise

[ivory heath]

oh tailwind is cool

[young flicker]

does go not have optional struct fields @royal nymph i was looking at navidrome's response structs and was confused why nothing was marked as optional or something

[ivory heath]

I wrote my own https://github.com/GreatValueCreamSoda/go-futures

[fierce cypress]

message passing and green threads are so much more pleasant i think

[royal nymph]

everything is optional always lol

[young flicker]

horrible

[fierce cypress]

actualy my favorite part of golang

[young flicker]

why

[fierce cypress]

null pointers

[young flicker]

I don't think node lets you do this easily

[royal nymph]

if you dont specify a field it just becomes empty value

which is 0, "", nil, etc depending on type

[ivory heath]

sometimes there isnt always explicit steps that a value will undergo/i dont wanna setup an entire explicit parallel pipleine. So futures is much easier

[fierce cypress]

unironically stdlib uses pointer field as a way to mark field as nullable for json marshalling

[young flicker]

also by optional I mean nullable

[ivory heath]

pointers are nullable in go, it is the default

[royal nymph]

thats only for pointers

you dont use pointers that much in go

[fierce cypress]

the edit implies you have a choice

[young flicker]

so navidrome's api is terrible just because of go lol

[royal nymph]

no

it has nothing to do with go pal..

[pseudo sierra]

just incompetent devs

[royal nymph]

bro do you realise how fucking old subsonic is

[young flicker]

zt's library had so many nullability issues because navidrome just makes things null when it wants to

[young flicker]

I'm talking about both subsonic and navidrome

there's 2 apis

both are terrible

[royal nymph]

thats a client issue for not handling nullability correctly

[young flicker]

the issue where artist id can be null is still an issue in navidrome's api

[royal nymph]

and subsonic/navidrome's fault for not documenting well

[young flicker]

why isn't it just defined in the struct

[royal nymph]

because go just doesnt work like this

[fierce cypress]

I still can't manage to read this properly, please clarify

[royal nymph]

btw unless I am looking at the wrong struct, ID cant ever be null, only empty string https://github.com/navidrome/navidrome/blob/master/server/subsonic/responses/responses.go#L95-L103

[pearl stag]

responses.go: Lines 95-103

type Artist struct {
    Id             string     `xml:"id,attr"                           json:"id"`
    Name           string     `xml:"name,attr"                         json:"name"`
    Starred        *time.Time `xml:"starred,attr,omitempty"            json:"starred,omitempty"`
    UserRating     int32      `xml:"userRating,attr,omitempty"         json:"userRating,omitempty"`
    AverageRating  float64    `xml:"averageRating,attr,omitempty"      json:"averageRating,omitempty"`
    CoverArt       string     `xml:"coverArt,attr,omitempty"           json:"coverArt,omitempty"`
    ArtistImageUrl string     `xml:"artistImageUrl,attr,omitempty"     json:"artistImageUrl,omitempty"`
}

[ivory heath]

lets say for example i want to download multiple files in parallel.
instead of setting up an entire thread pool myself i can easily do something like

files: list[str] = ["totally", "sfw", "content"]
futures: list[Future[str] = []
with ThreadPoolExecutor() as t:
    for f in files:
        futures.append(t.submit(download, f))
for future in as_completed(futures):
    #idk do stuff here

instead of having to make my own waitgroup, making sure channels properly close and no goroutines deadlock. Its a much more pleasant experience

using pythons concurrent.futures as an example but it almost maps 1:1 for any language with future support

[fierce cypress]

oh python doesn't have function coloring?

[ivory heath]

it does with async io

but you dont have to use it

threading.Thread spawns a coroutine just like go in GO!

[fierce cypress]

can you fully use futures instead of async io without it being worse?

[ivory heath]

yes

[fierce cypress]

very intriguing..

also I think you'd really like how elixir handles stuff like this
https://hexdocs.pm/elixir/1.20.0-rc.4/Task.html#async_stream/3

[ivory heath]

idk about what ven posted but i tried to make it as easy as possible to duplicate this in go

[fierce cypress]

language kind of sucks for smaller script-like things and stuff though since the runtime takes a while to start up and shipping it sucks (even with burrito)

[fierce cypress]

have you tried profiling this vs equivalent normal go code?

[ivory heath]

No but it will undeniably be slower than "native" as i have to do some black magic/runtime reflection to get the "AsCompleted" working

[fierce cypress]

awh

same thing as high level iterator libraries then..

slices in stdlib is pretty nice at least

[ivory heath]

Funnily enough i dont think what ven posted supports ascompleted

[ivory heath]

this is literally just .map on a ThreadPoolExecutor

which yes i do use a lot

[ivory heath]

and would actually be preferable here

i just forget sometimes it exists

[fierce cypress]

maybe I'll try python again I guess

I had a bad time last time mostly due to tooling being lackluster on nix since nix wants to handle dependencies for you and uv doesnt work well with it

also tried the alpha lsp

probably a terrible idea but I like touching nightly stuff and whatnot

[ivory heath]

use pylance and venv

[fierce cypress]

do I just hope I won't need a native dependency?

[ivory heath]

wdym native dependency

[fierce cypress]

like dependency that needs a .so library instead of being pure python

also doesn't venv need you to source a file to do the thing instead of the toolchain just knowing you're in a project dir (like every js thing with package.json)

[ivory heath]

this question confuses me. Like if you wanna do something with pytorch or cuda it will still resolve your systems install

[ivory heath]

you run a python file to init the venv if thats what youre asking

or you can run a command to do so

[fierce cypress]

nixos is different with that

  ls -R /usr /lib
/usr:
-  bin/
-  local/

/usr/bin:
- 󰡯 env -> /nix/store/jjxngswsb214vb58qx485jhmilf0kxxy-coreutils-9.10/bin/env*

/usr/local:
-  share/

/usr/local/share:
-  fonts/

/usr/local/share/fonts:
-  i/
-  m/

/usr/local/share/fonts/i:
1.4M  IosevkaCustom_Regular.ttf

/usr/local/share/fonts/m:

/lib:

  ~                                                                                         Wed 01:24:36 AM  
3ms   

nixpkgs has pretty good ways to do python dependencies but tooling really doesn't like it

[ivory heath]

never used nix so dunno

shoulda used arch

[fierce cypress]

idk i've loved the stability and never having dependency errors (for things that aren't my own software)

it really is "write once, run everywhere (that has nix installed)" i feel

i'd probably use gentoo if not for nix though but i haven't actually tried it so can't say for sure

[ivory heath]

i know a few autists who use gentoo

[ivory heath]

https://tenor.com/view/steins-gate-shiina-mayuri-makise-kurisu-suzuha-amane-hiyajo-maho-gif-6862478942042705008

[jade stone]

what in the typescript

[fierce cypress]

what the fuck why would you do this

[jade stone]

shockingly, i didn't write that

[fierce cypress]

it has to be an edge case used as a feature right?

[jade stone]

i don't think anybody wrote this explicitly

[fierce cypress]

"you" as in the anonymous 3rd person thing

[jade stone]

the compiler has just deferred expanding it

for perf

[fierce cypress]

I'd really want to see how it happened

[stoic depot]

but why..

if notepad++ can open a 5 gigabyte file and let me scroll through all the lines without lagging why can't this 20mb file show up dude 💔

I was able to fetch it without preview and firefox displayed it fine so at least it's workarounded I don't need to search for a config

[jade stone]

because who wants to optimize a file preview

[ivory heath]

I know that VS code will do it, slowly

[jade stone]

vscode is ok for perf, but it does tend to choke on large files

i always use kate for massive files

best perf out of any editor i've tried

[ivory heath]

but it does tend to choke on large files
That’s what I meant lol

[ivory heath]

Cause QT is good

[delicate root]

i was supposed to make a snarl subpackage like that

[young flicker]

a little

[ornate quiver]

https://vxtwitter.com/julianor/status/2056894152705503395/

Juliano Rizzo (@julianor)

TeamPCP post 4 hours ago:

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vxTwitter / fixvx · May 20, 2026, 12:25 AM

[lucid forge]

lets go when r they putting it on chinese git websites again

[ionic lake]

gh source code was already out there if you counted enterprise but its getting all rewritten in go so this will be nice to read

[pseudo sierra]

inch resting

[pseudo sierra]

wait like the entire ruby part is getting replaced?

[ionic lake]

yes

[pseudo sierra]

love

[worldly sigil]

rewritten with copilot x claude pro just like bun‼️

[fierce cypress]

have you tried helix or zed yet

[jade stone]

zed sucks, it doesn't even have an extension api

[fierce cypress]

I haven't noticed any slowdowns in either like ever other than opening the file in helix but it's perfectly fine after that

[jade stone]

isn't helix a TUI editor

[fierce cypress]

huh they have a built in extension thing?

[fierce cypress]

yeah

[jade stone]

they have a LSP client

not an extension API

[fierce cypress]

hm yeah I guess it's just languages, themes, and snippeta

idk I guess it'd be harder to implement when it's not web stuff

[jade stone]

no, not really

they already have it

it's just all it can do is load a LSP server

[fierce cypress]

I guess neovim managed but they have a very different way of handling ui that is easier to extend?

I've never tried making an editor so I'm mostly just guessing

[jade stone]

i mean you can't do any custom UI with vscodes api compared to something like jetbrains or neovim

you just have webviews

but i don't think zed do webviews

so they will need some form of custom UI

[fierce cypress]

you have the sidebar buttons and stuff like thunderclient and sql browsers

[fierce cypress]

the entire editor is web so I think it still counts

[jade stone]

yeah that's just all webviews

[jade stone]

well you're stuck inside an iframe

[fierce cypress]

idrk what webview would mean when you're already in chromium? like an iframe?

oh ok

webview to me is specifically stuff like the android api used in ksu manager

[jade stone]

webview is just what the vscode API calls them

[fierce cypress]

copium from vs code devs about making browser based editor I guess

[stoic depot]

it all started as monaco...

[fierce cypress]

github atom?

[stoic depot]

I meant vsc started from monaco

[fierce cypress]

they made electron or whatever

[fierce cypress]

I thought it was the other way around

[jade stone]

no, it's the otherway around

[stoic depot]

wait really?

[jade stone]

yes

[fierce cypress]

monaco just vs code without vs

[stoic depot]

yeah

[fierce cypress]

textual studio code

[stoic depot]

I only use it for websites where I don't care about mobile support

codemirror has better mobile support

[fierce cypress]

only mobile thing I know is acode

[jade stone]

monaco is made from the extracted sources of vscode

[fierce cypress]

monaco on mobile has got to be the most torturous thing someone can be put through

[stoic depot]

😭

[fierce cypress]

unironically prefer using raw vi in termux

[fierce cypress]

if you need anything but inserting a letter then you're done

[stoic depot]

I just really really like monaco on pc, I made this little page with it

ignore the output

I thought it was neat

[jade stone]

i've made a few things with monaco

check out https://sadan.zip/e

[fierce cypress]

in life there's roblox

[stoic depot]

is this discord webpack

omg

[jade stone]

yes'nt

[stoic depot]

aw

I thought it was kinda like

the patch helper menu but in the web

[jade stone]

it's every discord webpack module extracted into a web ui

you can browse them

and use LSP features like ctrl-click to jump around

[stoic depot]

this is better than using sources in the devtools in the app imo at least

[stoic depot]

but I would've enjoyed that

[jade stone]

that's somewhere down the todo list

[stoic depot]

if I have time are you friendly to prs

[jade stone]

yeah

go for it

you'll see the build system/everything else and be horrified and give up

[stoic depot]

plz be honest with me if my code is terrible btw I have winged everything I have ever coded

[stoic depot]

💔

[lyric latch]

e

[jade stone]

@stoic depot

[lyric latch]

@jade stone can you make a font that husks Nix

as a liga

[stoic depot]

oh my god LOL

nix

[stoic depot]

the website can hot reload at least right

or "hmr"

[jade stone]

yes

cargo xtask run client to start dev server

[stoic depot]

doesn't look like a terrible reason to use multiple languages in one project

seems sensical

[pseudo sierra]

this malware is running on my server btw 💔

[jade stone]

i need to update the web LSP client to be a shared worker

that way multi-tab browsing works properly

[young flicker]

DO

[granite notch]

it's written in ruby

[ionic lake]

I know

they're rewriting it

[granite notch]

yea

[granite notch]

gh code is so clean

[ionic lake]

I know

[dense sand]

what languagei s this

ruby?

[ionic lake]

ruby

[granite notch]

Ruby

[ionic lake]

yes

gh is built on ruby on rails and mysql i think

[dense sand]

crazy

[granite notch]

true btw

[pseudo sierra]

ror yes but is it fr still mysql

[dense sand]

i highly doubt its only mysql, their infra must be so big its not a single db

[ionic lake]

idk anymore

[granite notch]

yes

[pseudo sierra]

😭

you'd think they'd move to clustered postgres or smth but ig not

[ionic lake]

you know mysql can cluster as welll

[pseudo sierra]

yeah

[granite notch]

who wants github code samples

[pseudo sierra]

ME

[granite notch]

https://tenor.com/view/remilia-nephys-remilia-nephys-phase-connect-vtuber-gif-14275814212925006073

[pseudo sierra]

send the entire thing tbh

[granite notch]

pay

[pseudo sierra]

how much

[dense sand]

slophub

[granite notch]

$50k+

[dense sand]

of what

[granite notch]

@royal nymph pay

[pseudo sierra]

[granite notch]

DMs ;)

[stoic depot]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1477472620004769939/1490848390487998635/uncaption.gif

[stoic depot]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1484521263199424604/1488922371992846527/togif.gif

[stoic depot]

my mouse does this when I goes afk

it has dvd plinko and um pong with the cursor

[fierce cypress]

coaxialed into a snafu

[signal wadi]

i totally didnt waste like a hour making a MCP server that does something

but now it can do this

https://mii.flather.online/mcp btw

so