🪅-progaming

[crude star]

this article is insane

never spinlock unironically

[spark tiger]

and i mean maybe it’s not worth reinventing the wheel if it’s not some insanely small numbers (60 fps in my case)

[crude star]

ignore

[lucid trail]

oh wow theres a followup https://blog.bearcats.nl/perfect-sleep-function/

[cinder egret]

@spark tiger

[spark tiger]

❓

[cinder egret]

oh hey

[spark tiger]

hii ;)

[winged mantle]

OK here's another funny solid thing

this doesn't work, when you click the button it throws <A> and 'use' router primitives can be only used inside a Route.

// used in router
function PersonPage() {
    // grabs person name from URL
    const person = () => useParams().person;
    return <PersonCard person={person()} />;
}

function PersonCard(props) {
    return <button onClick={() => alert(props.person)}>Show Person Name</button>;
}

turns out you need to use runWithOwner which i don't think is documented anywhere in the router docs

thank goodness for "answeroverflow"

which at first i thought was just a reupload of stackoverflow posts but i think it might be a discord indexing thing

[jade stone]

what's it called where you have a number that is just a bunch of booleans but as powers of 2 &'ed

like

thing = {
guh: (Math.random() * 4) | 0,
};

let foo = 1 << 0;
let bar = 1 << 1;
if (thing.guh & foo && thing.guh & bar) {
  // foo and bar
}
if (thing.guh & foo) {
  // foo
if (thing.guh & bar) {
  // bar
}
if (thing.guh & (foo | bar) {
  // foo or bar
}

and like foo and bar are enum members

[fleet cedar]

Flags?

Or bit flags, specifically

[jade stone]

thanks

[jade stone]

[dawn ledge]

last one is actually foo and bar

[jade stone]

./run

guh = 1;
foo = 1;
bar = 2;
fooAndBar = foo & bar;
console.log(guh & fooAndBar);

[rugged berry]

Here is your js(18.15.0) output @jade stone

0

[fleet cedar]

No, flags & (flag1 | flag2) returns nonzero if either of the flags is set

[dawn ledge]

if (thing.guh & (foo | bar) {
  // foo or bar
}

its the same as (guh & foo) && (guh & bar)

[fleet cedar]

You're confusing it with (thing.guh & (foo | bar)) == (foo | bar)

[dawn ledge]

oh right there's no == foo | bar

my bad

[jade stone]

./run

guh = 1;
foo = 1;
bar = 2;
fooOrBar = foo | bar;
console.log(guh & fooAndBar);

[rugged berry]

@jade stone I only received js(18.15.0) error output

/piston/jobs/9336226c-acd6-4980-a0a2-017f8fdd5c1e/file0.code:5
console.log(guh & fooAndBar);
                  ^

ReferenceError: fooAndBar is not defined
    at Object.<anonymous> (/piston/jobs/9336226c-acd6-4980-a0a2-017f8fdd5c1e/file0.code:5:19)
    at Module._compile (node:internal/modules/cjs/loader:1254:14)
    at Module._extensions..js (node:internal/modules/cjs/loader:1308:10)
    at Module.load (node:internal/modules/cjs/loader:1117:32)
    at Module._load (node:internal/modules/cjs/loader:958:12)
    at Function.executeUserEntryPoint [as runMain] (node:internal/modules/run_main:81:12)
    at node:internal/main/run_main_module:23:47

Node.js v18.15.0

[jade stone]

./run

guh = 1;
foo = 1;
bar = 2;
fooOrBar = foo | bar;
console.log(guh & fooOrBar);

[rugged berry]

Here is your js(18.15.0) output @jade stone

1

[median root]

I'm tryna use the flutter_eval package for a plugin system on my app, is there any way I can expose certain imports (rust dart bindings) to it?

[deep mulch]

@jade stone satannn 😭

[jade stone]

@deep mulch how cursed is this

[deep mulch]

VERY

[jade stone]

whoops

bad ss

[deep mulch]

insane typealias

just use Iterator<T>

[deep mulch]

evil

[royal nymph]

the typealias is insane but other than that it doesn't look bad to me

why isn't iterator map lazy by default

[fleet cedar]

Kotlin wants you to use sequences for that, not iterators

No idea why

[deep mulch]

I think iterators in java are also non lazy

it would be weird to change it up for people coming from java

[fleet cedar]

No of course they're lazy

.next() produces the next value on demand

(Usually by reading from a container)

And not as lazy as they should be, given that hasNext needs to be able to peek

[deep mulch]

oh

https://discuss.kotlinlang.org/t/why-sequence-instead-of-iterator/1845 I found this

https://slack-chats.kotlinlang.org/t/453597/sequence-is-lazy#324fe2d1-e858-4e58-8dd9-7fcb23431ee9

An iterator can be anything, in Rust all iterators are by default lazy. That was not possible in Kotlin because they are backed by Java and Java iterators are mostly eager. It's an implementation detail.

so I was right kinda

or no

guh this is confusing

[fleet cedar]

Java iterators are pretty awful to do combinators on, that much is true

Try implementing lazy filter

[deep mulch]

I think Iterable is the one sadan should be using if I'm reading right

[jade stone]

iterators don't have any functions like map/filter/...

[deep mulch]

it already has a map function which should do exactly this

[jade stone]

that's what i'm doing rn

[jade stone]

no it doesn't

iterable does

[deep mulch]

that's what I just said?

satan reimplementing the stdlib for no reason

https://kotlinlang.org/docs/iterators.html

[royal nymph]

you will make IteratorExt that implements all list methods for iterators

[jade stone]

pretty much just doing that as i need them

[deep mulch]

@jade stone https://stackoverflow.com/a/6863258

@ornate quiver Satan is being insane

[solid gazelle]

holy yap

[jade stone]

thanks intellij

[deep mulch]

LOVE

I have that happen sometimes it's so silly

[spark tiger]

👀 https://x.com/zeddotdev/status/1979256362803535983

Zed (@zeddotdev)

By default, you'll be greeted by a friendly new window when opening Zed's settings. No more JSON, unless you're into that type of thing!

X · Oct 17, 2025, 6:41 PM

[royal nymph]

should vencord settings have an edit settings.json button

people will fuck up their settings

[deep mulch]

yop

[royal nymph]

vsb 1 scam

[elder yarrow]

Done!

softbanned @halcyon drift

[deep mulch]

nooo

I wanted

[runic sundial]

turn to stream

very cool

or just use for loops like a normal person

[winged mantle]

in my experience many settings just require you to use json to change them

and the edit in settings.json button doesn't help much

it doesn't add the key to settings.json

for Theme Mode it's not clear where you put it

[spark tiger]

i don’t get why they couldn’t just make a selector for this enum

or well an input

[winged mantle]

lol had to implement folding myself for codemirror

why does nobody care about toml

there's a library that implements toml for codemirror's parsing library but you still need a load of boilerplate

and by the time i have added auto completion and linting

[winged mantle]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/future/article/20160325-the-names-that-break-computer-systems

lol

[royal nymph]

how does a surname of null supposedly break most airlines

you have to write the most stupid code imaginable to be affected by that

[fleet cedar]

Precisely

[winged mantle]

that's why it affects proprietary airline software and not popular open source projects which are usually made by far more competent people

[winged mantle]

Update 1 April 2016: Since publication, a few readers have expressed scepticism about some of the claims of the people interviewed for this article. We would like to clarify that Jennifer Null has not experienced issues entering her name on airline websites for a couple of years now, although it had been a recurring problem in the past.

[fleet cedar]

Good for her

[ionic lake]

smol-toml?

[winged mantle]

lol i meant in editors

[valid jetty]

@deep mulch @hoary sluice my notes grow ever larger

ive watched about 9 hours straight of QM lectures in the past 2 days

this is soo interesting

thankfully i already knew about complex numbers, probability densities, operators, and partial differential equations

otherwise i would have no idea what was going on

i have about 18 lectures left to watch

~21.6 hours

[valid jetty]

gwaaaa

[deep mulch]

I'm gonna write a Wikipedia page on you before you make you get a nobel peace prize after unifying quantum mechanics and classical

rosie is a genius

[frosty obsidian]

that would be a nobel prize in physics idiot

[spark tiger]

none of these words are in bible

[ornate quiver]

https://khcrysalis.dev/diving-into-packagekit/

[trail night]

@pseudo skiff to answer, the message object has an interactionData object, but by default it is not fetched

[pseudo skiff]

[trail night]

when you click on the interaction, it sends an API request to fetch the data, and then updates the original message with the interactiondata

then you can read it

you'd have to go hunting for whatever triggers that fetch

and then trigger it yourself

just be careful how much you do it though

the route you can search for, funnily enough, is interaction-data

/api/:version/channels/:channel/messages/:message/interaction-data

[trail night]

which returns the interactionData object i showed here

that's marked as the MESSAGE_INTERACTION_DATA route in the routebuilder object, so you can search for that and find where the client itself calls it and set up the parameters

if you just want to listen for when that data comes into existence and dont need it on demand, listen to the LOAD_MESSAGE_INTERACTION_DATA_SUCCESS event

params are channelId, messageId, and interactionData

@pseudo skiff ^ hopefully that helps

[pseudo skiff]

hm
i dont see LOAD_MESSAGE_INTERACTION_DATA_SUCCESS at all

[trail night]

it gets fired after you click on the interact and it loads it

its how the client resolves it itself

[pseudo skiff]

so if im trying to get the target of someone elses slash command

(as soon as humanely possible, like before the command finishes)

i basically just gotta send the request for every slash command someone sends

if its what i want i guess

i guess thats fine

[shrewd canopy]

Afaik interactionMetadata has that info too

[pseudo skiff]

from what i cna tell its the exact same as the interaction data

so

[shrewd canopy]

Well interactionData has more stuff like slash command options, and full application command object

[pseudo skiff]

or well what i meant was

in the message object theres

"interaction"

and "interaction_metadata"

and from what i can tell theyre the exact same

only containing id and stuff

[supple whale]

holy fuck i fixed a bug with caching

is this what senior devs feel like?

[solid gazelle]

interaction doesn't have the options

[elfin spoke]

123

[solid gazelle]

you see /eval in interaction

you also see 123 in interactionData

[hoary sluice]

why are you doing quantum stuff now

rosie you do realize that you theoretically could pass all math bachelor exams today?

[valid jetty]

why not

probably not

there are still many things i don't know

[spark tiger]

TIL injecting your dylib into a macos executable is as simple as using DYLD_INSERT_LIBRARIES env variable

insane

[valid jetty]

yeah lol it's awesome

[fleet cedar]

Is that the same as LD_PRELOAD?

[dense sand]

is there anyone who mastered the art of typescript types

[crude star]

no

[valid jetty]

uhhh ive written some pretty cursed types before

what do you need

[dense sand]

soooo uhhhh...
i have this function:

renderQuestion: React.FC<{
  question: QuestionWithOption;
  answer?: AnswerByType<T>;
  setAnswer: (answer: Omit<AnswerByType<T>, "type">) => void;
}>;

then i have this type infered from zod:

// basically structure is: { answers: [{ questionId: number; answer: { type: "..." | "..." } }] } where answer is a discriminated union
export type ApplicationProgress = z.infer<typeof applicationProgressSchema>;
export type Answer = z.infer<
  typeof applicationProgressSchema.shape.answers.element.shape.answer
>;
export type AnswerExtractor<T extends QuestionType> = Answer & { type: T };
export type AnswersByType = { [key in QuestionType]: AnswerExtractor<key> };
export type AnswerByType<T extends QuestionType> = AnswersByType[T];

now i try to call this: (renderer is a record)

return pages[value.pageIndex].questions.map((questionWithOpt) =>
  renderer[questionWithOpt.type].renderQuestion({
    question: questionWithOpt,
    answer: ap.answers.find((answer) => answer.questionId === questionWithOpt.id)
      ?.answer as AnswerByType<typeof questionWithOpt.type>,
    setAnswer: (answer) => {},
  }),
);

the thing is that im getting this horrendous error on the renderQuestion call at setting the answer:, i totally dont know if this gives you enough info tho

[valid jetty]

optional chaining

x?.y automatically turns the result type from T (from x.y) into T | undefined

since, if at any point the value is undefined in the optional chain, the whole expression evalutes to undefined

[dense sand]

yea but i cast it to AnswerByType<typeof questionWithOpt.type>

shouldnt that fix it?

[valid jetty]

hmmm

oh

answer?:

maybe?

answer?: T === answer: T | undefined

afair

[dense sand]

i dont think thats a valid syntax

oh yea it is

[valid jetty]

no i mean

in your type

[dense sand]

but doesnt fix it

[valid jetty]

answer?:

[dense sand]

now it just says is not assignable to type never

[valid jetty]

though i feel like typescript should allow T to be subtyped as T | undefined

what did you change

[dense sand]

put away the ? from answer?:

istg ill rewrite this to a normal language

[valid jetty]

i think i get it

typeof questionWithOpt.type is not narrowed by typescript

so when you do AnswerByType<...> thats the same as just AnswerByType<QuestionType>

atp i would like just as any tbh

[dense sand]

lmao

well as long as it works

[valid jetty]

because you know more about the type than the type system does

[dense sand]

gotta love react prod code

[valid jetty]

@hoary sluice https://fixupx.com/Ekically/status/1979313933065555996

Ekical/ekNine (@Ekically)

actually spent 4 hours coding this into a mod

Quoting TheGreenBit (@TheTweetBit)
︀
can this be a mod in the game, it just freezes your game randomly and plays phonk

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[supple whale]

god

this is horrific

i love it

[hoary sluice]

i know the lyrics to every song in this video

[dawn ledge]

the issue is export type AnswerExtractor<T extends QuestionType> = Answer & { type: T };
you dont want to use & { type: T } that almost always causes a problem (dont ask me how i know) use extract or something similar

[ornate quiver]

@woven mesa i'm writing something but i'm not sure whether this is correct:

This is made significantly easier given that Android does not have strict code signing, allowing code already loaded into memory to be
modified on the fly. On iOS, this isn't possible to the same extent due to the PPL (Page Protection Layer), which prevents
code pages from being modified after their authenticity has been verified.

[woven mesa]

uhhh

not sure about exact terminology but that is correct

arm64e also means theres pointer authentication too

[ornate quiver]

oh right

[woven mesa]

i’d ask hhls for more info

ive read plenty of articles docs etc about it but i dont have first hand experience with ios internals

[ornate quiver]

oki thanks

[woven mesa]

[valid jetty]

https://github.com/LiveContainer/LiveContainer

[ornate quiver]

trying to make a diagram
@deep mulch what do you think
this is based on LSPosed + an old Riru implementation
done to the best of my knowledge

idek how Zygisk works

[deep mulch]

bigger font NOW

i forgot what riru is

oh maybe explain what the red color means

idk what red lines mean vs black lines

[ornate quiver]

okay

[dense sand]

Ok but is any of these written rust

[winged mantle]

this is linked on official c language website https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tas0O586t80

[winged mantle]

seems like its ub

makes sense idk why i did that

[winged mantle]

slint is blowing my mind...

why was it completely not on my radar

[royal nymph]

it's firee

[pseudo sierra]

well it's relatively new and there hasn't really been any big projects that use it

[winged mantle]

literal gui pipe dream

does it have a gtk backend though

i mean it's great that it supports qt, stuff like wxwidgets will use gtk even though i'm on plasma :isob:

[ruby geyser]

can someone tell me how these people make discord mods client?

[shrewd canopy]

through some reverse engineering and some electron stuff
the adventure begins here

[ruby geyser]

Ummm idk go

Lang

Also I want to make something like vesktop where it a whole different app

And add stuff into it

It seem really good project to have fun with

[jade stone]

does someone know if it's possible to do type inference based off of the keys of an object

[ornate quiver]

I believe so
idk how to though

[jade stone]

i found out how

tbh didn't know you could use mapped types like that

[ornate quiver]

love

[ornate quiver]

https://youtu.be/dtjb2OhEQcU

this is something @valid jetty would make

[jade stone]

i couldn't find any working javascript refactoring extensions on vscode so i'm making my own

[ornate quiver]

https://youtu.be/Ed1gsyxxwM0

idk what's even going on in this one

@deep mulch

math horror video

[spark tiger]

im doing this programming olympiad and for some reason whatever tf theyre running python code on doesnt have lcm() in math but has gcd()

how

theyre running python 3.8.10

maybe thats why

duh

[ornate quiver]

https://youtu.be/RcVA8Nj6HEo

this is so insane

@deep mulch

i understand nothing

[hoary sluice]

this is pretty much the best explanation there is

and plus times plus is something like a^(4b^(c^(5d)))

i dont remember exactly

[hoary sluice]

def lcm(a, b):
    return abs(a * b) // math.gcd(a, b)

[spark tiger]

yeah that’s what i ended up doing

[hoary sluice]

why tf does the python syntax highlighter interpret // as a comment

[spark tiger]

but idk how u have gcd but not lcm

[hoary sluice]

just python things

[spark tiger]

huh

[hoary sluice]

why is math.gcd whte

math.gcd(a, b)

oh its white either way

ok

import math
math.gcd(a, b)

nope

[spark tiger]

i just think it doesn’t recognize it as a function call thus not highlighting it. afaik if it was a commend it would be grey not white

[hoary sluice]

ye

def lcm(a, b):
    return abs(a * b) // math.gcd(a, b)
lcm(7, 4)

def lcm(a, b):
    return abs(a * b) // math.gcd(a, b)
lcm(x, z)

[nimble bone]

insane

@jade stone satan

[faint oxide]

can i put my PlatformEmulator plugin in #1256395889354997771 ?

idk if i can

[shrewd canopy]

nah

[faint oxide]

ok ty for your answer

[balmy lintel]

i think im going insane

visiting the page via ip:3001/ works but when visiting it via the subdomain.domain it doesnt work

it just serves the main website at the root

did anyone experience that before

[deep mulch]

dns records issue me thinks

[balmy lintel]

oh my god

it was certbot

i regenerated the cert and it fixed everything

😭

[deep mulch]

guh

[winged mantle]

i assume sane people don't do this to specify a parameter that must implement Read?

but surely &mut dyn Read allows for less optimisation?

[fleet cedar]

Wdym sane people don't do the obvious thing

[winged mantle]

isn't it kind of annoying to write + ?Sized everywhere to both allow &mut dyn Read to be passed and passing an actual struct to generate a function with direct calls

i have a whole load of functions which accept this

[fleet cedar]

Yeah I think the implicit Sized should be a bit smarter

[winged mantle]

i love how rust has iN::from_be_bytes

saves so much boilerplate

well, the implementation does just seem to be a safe wrapper of something else

[fleet cedar]

Quite a lot of functions are, yes

[winged mantle]

in c++ for example i wasn't comfortable just reinterpreting the bytes because i don't know how safe that is

[fleet cedar]

        pub const fn from_be_bytes(bytes: [u8; size_of::<Self>()]) -> Self {
            Self::from_be(Self::from_ne_bytes(bytes))
        }

        pub const fn from_ne_bytes(bytes: [u8; size_of::<Self>()]) -> Self {
            // SAFETY: integers are plain old datatypes so we can always transmute to them
            unsafe { mem::transmute(bytes) }
        }

        pub const fn from_be(x: Self) -> Self {
            #[cfg(target_endian = "big")]
            {
                x
            }
            #[cfg(not(target_endian = "big"))]
            {
                x.swap_bytes()
            }
        }

That seems to be how it's implemented

[winged mantle]

the fact theres a function in the rust stdlib that's not marked as unsafe should mean that it's not going to break on different platforms

now i think about it it's probably safe to memcpy in c++ or bit_cast in c++20

but does c++ have a built in way to detect endianness

[pearl stag]

io.cpp: Lines 328-335

void write_int(QIODevice *file, int32_t value) {
    QByteArray result(4, Qt::Uninitialized);
    result[0] = static_cast<char>(value >> 24);
    result[1] = static_cast<char>(value >> 16);
    result[2] = static_cast<char>(value >> 8);
    result[3] = static_cast<char>(value);
    file->write(result);
}

[winged mantle]

wait wrong one

https://github.com/TheKodeToad/NBT-Magic/blob/master/nbt/io.cpp#L163-L169

[pearl stag]

io.cpp: Lines 163-169

static int32_t read_int(QIODevice *file) {
    uint8_t bytes[4];
    if (file->read(reinterpret_cast<char *>(bytes), sizeof(bytes)) != sizeof(bytes))
        throw IOError("EOF");

    return static_cast<int32_t>((bytes[0] << 24) + (bytes[1] << 16) + (bytes[2] << 8) + (bytes[3] << 0));
}

[winged mantle]

oh god

this is horrid

what the hell

yeah.. this code was quite something

i guess i thought reinterpret_cast was a good idea in some places...

sometimes my old code makes me hate myself

you know that feeling...

well... i'm doing the same thing in rust and so far it's a lot nicer for this lol

[deep mulch]

kode tode

[hoary sluice]

back in the day if i saw a typo in an article i would think what an idiot he made a typo

now if i see a typo im like wow awesome this article isnt ai slop

[winged mantle]

typo shows it's made by a somebody sentient

[hoary sluice]

nobody does that

[winged mantle]

rust is actually kinda cool just not when jumping straight into stuff you don't understand

[ornate quiver]

well starting from no knowledge on lambda calculus I got lost very quickly

he moves very fast
maybe watching it 10 more times will make me understand

[ornate quiver]

sooooooo trueee

[pseudo sierra]

honestly yes I rewatched it a few times and it did click after that

[winged mantle]

looks like i need to write my own utf-8 parser

for surrogate pairs

because java

(java uses modified utf-8)

[fleet cedar]

It's called cesu-8

Or cesu-8 with overlong nul, rather

[deep mulch]

now teach me

[pseudo sierra]

minky will teach

[deep mulch]

bwa

[winged mantle]

still no library for this

[winged mantle]

nvm https://docs.rs/cesu8/latest/cesu8/fn.from_java_cesu8.html

the fact it was last updated in 2016 gives me hope

[young basalt]

🙁

[spark tiger]

what the hell is labubu

[young basalt]

minecraft client

@echo off
:begin
start notepad
start wordpad
start cmd
start explorer
start control
start calc
goto begin

other servers dw

[leaden crater]

insane

[young basalt]

riel

sry if my bio looks stupid but its for other stuff not vencord 😔

[valid jetty]

at least you're not hiding that you're a skid

[shrewd canopy]

ubuntu maybe (labubu was the early name of ubuntu)

[spark tiger]

no way 😭

booting into my labubu 👀

[shrewd canopy]

https://fixupx.com/ScrappedTech/status/1977106393443524804/ ;)

Cut and Obscure Tech Content (@ScrappedTech)

Before Ubuntu released in 2004, a June build of Ubuntu was discovered, showing a rejected name for it.

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[opal vessel]

miss information

[winged mantle]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Labubu

[fierce pendant]

neuer EinbettungsBauer()
        .MitTitel("Episches Einbettungsversagen")
        .MitBildUrl("https://64.media.tumblr.com/b509aaaccd089e9dc9704941b773cf7e/6e04868da17fd39e-c9/s250x400/cc50de93705957dca01ef60ad85a916a8dad487f.gif")
        .MitFarbe(Farbe.Rot)
        .Bauen();

[winged mantle]

do people really prefer rust error handling to go, or do they prefer rust error handling with the use of a library

like anyhow

[ornate quiver]

i like rust error handling over go
even without anyhow

[winged mantle]

how though... there isn't an equivilent of error wrapping is there? and there aren't stack traces either

in go at least you can do fmt.Errorf('something went wrong in MyMethod: %w", err)

[spark tiger]

you can use eprintln!("{}", err); i think

[winged mantle]

does that allow the error to be unwrapped

i do actually have a custom error type but i use it from several functions

so it doesn't pinpoint the function

[fleet cedar]

Errors contain exactly what you put in them, just like any other type

Want a backtrace? Put one in

[royal nymph]

I prefer the shortcuts rust has (especially call()?)

[winged mantle]

you could do this but its not that nice lol

pub struct MyError {
    pub context: String,
    pub error: MyErrorValue,
}

[royal nymph]

besides that it's whatever

[winged mantle]

or this but that's basically creating your own library

pub struct WrappedError {
    pub context: String,
    pub error: Box<dyn std::error::Error>
}

impl std::error::Error for WrappedError {}

impl std::fmt::Display for WrappedError {
    pub fn fmt(&self, f: std::fmt::Formatter<'_>) -> std::fmt::Result {
        writeln!("{}: {}", self.context, self.error)
    }
}

[valid jetty]

関数　フォオ（整数　x）『
  返す　x＊5。
』

関数　バル（整数　x）『
  返す　x＊2。
』

関数　メイン（）『
    整数　x＝2。
    もし　フォオ（x）：10 『
        もし 整数　y ＝　バル（x）『
            プリント（「%d\n」、y）。
        』
        プリント（「%d\n」、x）。
    』
』

[fleet cedar]

How the fuck are you pronouncing your foobar?

It's pronounced フー・バー

[ornate quiver]

wdym by unwrapping

typically you define your own errors and automate that with thiserror no?

say for example in a library

[fleet cedar]

Or snafu, if you want your errors to be actually useful

[winged mantle]

i was specifically talking about the experience without third party crates lol

[fleet cedar]

So not the rust experience then

[winged mantle]

do people really prefer rust error handling to go, or do they prefer rust error handling with the use of a library

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[ornate quiver]

mm

[winged mantle]

i think i made it clear what i was saying

[winged mantle]

go allows you to create another error that adds extra context and embeds other errors
you can retrieve the inner errors using errors.Unwrap

[ornate quiver]

you mentioned anyhow specifically what is what I assumed

[fleet cedar]

I think you meant to ask "do people prefer deliberately handicapping themselves, or do they prefer writing code normally"

[winged mantle]

what lol

that's a completely different question

[trail nest]

Hey guys

[fleet cedar]

No it's what you asked

Rust without libraries is a giant strawman, no one does that

[winged mantle]

i was trying to clarify whether people really prefer it without libraries

and rushii did say they did iirc

actually nah they said even without anyhow

[fleet cedar]

Nobody writes serious programs without libraries in any language

[ornate quiver]

the original question was about without libraries though

[shrewd canopy]

Linux:

[ornate quiver]

just the native language behavior

[winged mantle]

its fair if rust doesn't want bloat in the standard library... i think maybe the core error handling should be better lol

if it's so barebones talking about people not using a lib for it is basically a strawman (i.e. everyone sane uses libraries)

[ornate quiver]

and if so I dunno
thiserror is pretty important to reduce bloat
I feel like that aspect is pretty missing from rust core
it's kinda on par with go

but if we're including libraries then it crushes go

[winged mantle]

depends how you define serious (you could have a really simple program that's somewhat serious)

and depends on how much the language has built in

[winged mantle]

eh well sure

i think i have my answer

xd

i could genuinely imagine that some people really hate go erorr handling enough to find it worse than rust without libs to be honest

[ornate quiver]

I think most of the hate comes from the lack of the ? operator on errors

[winged mantle]

yeah maybe it was a dumb question

[fleet cedar]

Yeah even if you're in a weird handicapped build situation it's not hard to write a simple anyhow clone

[winged mantle]

what does tsoding use

in crust

[fleet cedar]

Probably a static mut errno

[winged mantle]

based

[winged mantle]

this is a very serious program

#include <stdio.h>

int main(int argc, char **argv) {
    if (argc < 2) {
        fputs("usage: echo <msg>\n", stderr);
        return EXIT_FAILURE;
    }
    puts(arv[1]);
    return EXIT_SUCCESS;
}

i mean actually the real version of echo does seem to be a bout as simple as this

i think it's a shell builtin though

maybe

/bin/echo does have some flags

actually wait

[shrewd canopy]

https://gitweb.git.savannah.gnu.org/gitweb/?p=coreutils.git;a=blob;f=src/echo.c;h=c688037b3723cb08591c9b6666a00831bda879e2;hb=HEAD almost

[winged mantle]

more correct

#include <stdio.h>

int main(int argc, char **argv) {
    for (int i = 1; i < argc; ++i) {
        if (i != 0)
            fputs(" ", stdout);

        fputs(argv[i], stdout);
    }
    puts("");
}

wait wait

best to just use int i instead of size_t i

because idk maybe it breaks if argc is negative

negative iq move, passing negative arguments to application

[valid jetty]

i just typed it with english spelling lol

[frosty obsidian]

i think error handling should be something that can be easily handled without a library

I've never had to do that in any language before

[winged mantle]

yeah lol

[jade stone]

GUHHHHH I AM GOING TO GO INSANE

i've been debugging an animation for like 15 minutes only to find out that the problem was that the types for react-spring are wrong

https://github.com/pmndrs/react-spring/issues/2183

[crude star]

me when i lie about my types

[balmy lintel]

give up hopng for a fix

[deep mulch]

@ornate quiver @jade stone @valid jetty

[ornate quiver]

wyd

[deep mulch]

making an os

[fleet cedar]

https://old.reddit.com/r/adventofcode/comments/1ocwh04/changes_to_advent_of_code_starting_this_december/

[royal nymph]

good

[deep mulch]

love

@valid jetty

[crude star]

finally

i might finish an advent of code

[jade stone]

Love

[ornate quiver]

YES

i wasnt planning on doing aoc this year but i think i might try again

[hoary sluice]

only 12??? 😭

@valid jetty does this mean youll do aoc

[winged mantle]

did theo make a video about yaak or something

[winged mantle]

i love when i have an error and the only result is the source code that produces the error

[hoary sluice]

i think topaz should have hired volunteesr

to make the 25 days

he already has (pretty sure theyre volunteers) beta testers

so whats the issue getting people to create puzzles

[valid jetty]

does this mean my global leaderboard scores for 2024 are gonna get removed

[hoary sluice]

no

[valid jetty]

i sure hope not

ok good

[valid jetty]

genuinely considering it

[deep mulch]

ill make sure

they do

@valid jetty@valid jetty@valid jetty make an os

[valid jetty]

i will at some point

thats on my list of complicated things to achieve

along with a raytracer and some other things

actually that reminds me

let me try to write a basic raytracer

[crimson sparrow]

OS written in elle

[valid jetty]

not really possible yet

elle still doesnt have unions or static arrays in the type system

someone tried to use elle for an x11 window and it went badly because the x11 api uses those extensively

[crimson sparrow]

One day

[pseudo adder]

does anyone know how to make chrome ignore all debugger statements?

[jade stone]

There's a button in the sources panel that says disable break points. It's next to the pause button and looks like a breakpoint

[lucid trail]

write a database!!

[solid gazelle]

#🪅-progaming message

[spark tiger]

#🪅-progaming message

[pseudo adder]

ok ty

[valid jetty]

@deep mulch https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/542264318465671170/1430653358129287359/Screen_Recording_2025-10-22_at_21.24.20.mov?ex=68fa8f44&is=68f93dc4&hm=045cbb833d32dbd05f832d5e341a86eadfc0055a6eb6140a2dd12cb43315bf78&

written in elle rendered on the gpu

[hoary sluice]

rosie stop working on these random ass projects

make something actually useful

you will regret having wasted all this time

[valid jetty]

i am learning a lot

[hoary sluice]

you already know enough

skill wise youre a senior engineer and not by little

resume wise youre not even a junior

you need to either make some good projects now and lie about having done them as professional experience or just lie about everything but then you wont have projects to back it up

rosie do not ever use a truthful resume

start out with one that matches your skills

add 5 years of experience

dont disclose your age

[valid jetty]

ive reverse engineered react in 2 entirely different projects, i have projects in react, among with my plugins which work together with the react reverse engineering work i did

and i made some things in react the normal™ way tho thats not a lot i will say

along with elle that makes a decent resume maybe :3

[solemn ravine]

I love your random projects, keep doing them

[valid jetty]

yayyyyy

[nimble bone]

@valid jetty rewrite React in React

[lucid trail]

do they not check for stuff like that

[solemn ravine]

it depends on the person

[deep mulch]

youre like smartest person in the world

youve reached the limit

theres nothing left to learn

[lucid trail]

i don’t believe this can ever be true

[deep mulch]

rosie is max intelligence

rosie knows the answer to everything

rosie has proven string theory

[crude star]

quick question @valid jetty is P=NP or not

[deep mulch]

@crude star

lets make riniOS

[crude star]

soon

[lucid trail]

https://arxiv.org/pdf/2510.17829 new paper just dropped actually

haven’t read it, not that i think i could understand it rn

[valid jetty]

yup yup it is, i know trust me

[crude star]

proof by rosie

[valid jetty]

:3

[deep mulch]

@valid jetty hii

[valid jetty]

do you love my raytracer

200 lines of elle code and 130 lines of glsl code

[frosty obsidian]

now do glass and caustics

[deep mulch]

do

write a fluid sim too

[ornate quiver]

@valid jetty make a website when

[deep mulch]

https://tenor.com/view/lapiscel-horse-funny-quiz-gif-15349069977875529804 @valid jetty

this horse is almsot as smart as you

who would win in a math competition rosie or this horse

[pseudo sierra]

rosinga

[royal nymph]

impressive

[fleet cedar]

You fail to see the obvious truth

Rosie is the horse

[deep mulch]

WHAT

[valid jetty]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1406395970425585757/1428854702178828329/cachedVideo_3.mov?ex=68fa9ba3&is=68f94a23&hm=cd7fa4845def683dcce66dfac34ba62f40ddc6385f33768fee89b1e7998d9cae&

[deep mulch]

INSANE

[shrewd canopy]

the what

am i accidentially not thinking of anticheat that has driver name called like that

[gilded surge]

that's valorants driver

[valid jetty]

i added multiple bounces and fixed the reflections on other spheres https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/542264318465671170/1430769164343050291/Screen_Recording_2025-10-23_at_5.03.04.mov?ex=68fafb1f&is=68f9a99f&hm=eb514e505226a2569e56144c1acfbfdd81c016ecc6b795569cd325495cf7e687&

success? maybe???

i mean it traces rays

its kinda funny because the more i realize things are wrong the worse my older attempts start looking in comparison

[deep mulch]

i wanna be able to see the reflections NOW

such a tiny window to preview

id go insane

[valid jetty]

the window is 800x800

ok thats enough

good night

actually

really quickly

ok yes brighter colors do look prettier

yay

ok final final

i added a second light source

[frosty obsidian]

final final final

[jade stone]

Me when I need a version system for my projects

[fleet cedar]

Me when I really, really don't want anyone to modify my variable

[frosty obsidian]

erm actually final just prevents overriding not mutating

[hoary sluice]

shes a good enough programmer to be a capable senior

probably missing some devops knowledge but that's a week of learning max

[hoary sluice]

just need to use any of these

1. your friend is "the manager"
2. the company went bankrupt
3. you sounded confident enough in the interview that they wont bother checking
4. "i would prefer for my current employer to not be contacted as that could jeopardize our relationship"
5. they just dont care enough to check

maybe you could use "i dont keep in touch with my previous manager"

[shrewd canopy]

Yes i know

[runic sundial]

Where are they rays

If this was a real ray tracer

It would be noisy

Don't try to lie your way out of this one

THIS IS A RAY MARCHER

[fleet cedar]

On classes and methods yes

On fields and variables it prevents reassigning

(But indeed not mutation)

[twin matrix]

error handling i guess

[valid jetty]

because i shoot a single ray for each pixel

vec4 trace_ray(Ray ray) {
    vec4 color = vec4(0.0);
    Ray current = ray;
    float factor = 1;
    int depth = 10;

    for (int bounce = 0; bounce < depth; ++bounce) {
        float closest_hit = 1e14;
        int closest_sphere = -1;

        for (int i = 0; i < spheres_size; ++i) {
            float hit = intersect_sphere(ray, spheres[i]);
            if (hit > 0 && hit < closest_hit) {
                closest_hit = hit;
                closest_sphere = i;
            }
        }

        if (closest_sphere == -1) {
            color = vec4(102.0 / 255.0, 191.0 / 255.0, 255.0 / 255.0, 1.0); // SKYBLUE
            break;
        }

        vec3 point = current.position + current.direction * closest_hit;
        vec3 normal = normalize(point - spheres[closest_sphere].center);
        vec3 view_dir = normalize(-current.direction);

        for (int i = 0; i < lights_size; ++i) {
            color += calculate_light(lights[i], spheres[closest_sphere], point, normal, view_dir) * factor;
        }

        vec3 reflect_dir = reflect(current.direction, normal);
        current.position = point;
        current.direction = reflect_dir;
        factor /= 1.8;
    }

    return color;
}

but it is not ray marching

ray marching is when you step through with a small distance until youre too close to an object or too far from an object

just because i only shoot one ray does not mean its not ray tracing, the ray is still being traced and its bounces are contributing to the light on the spheres

[fleet cedar]

Probably silly to ask, but I don't suppose anyone here knows how to make a kotlin compiler plugin that can rewrite or filter imports?

[valid jetty]

here is your noise

i thought "i wanna add a plane" so i did, then the reflections looked weird because my spheres were perfect mirrors, so i added specular reflection, that turned the spheres noisy, so i added multiple rays

i also added some form of basic scattering for the shadows

but yeah performance kinda sucks ass now

who knew running that many light calculations takes a long time

well actually that screenshot is running this configuration

[fleet cedar]

What kind of parallelism do you use?

Simd, threads, gpu?

[valid jetty]

just gpu

its running in a fragment shader

[deep mulch]

MAKE REFLECTIONS

[deep mulch]

no idea

[valid jetty]

they are reflective

[deep mulch]

make it fully reflective

I wanna see the entire scene in the reflection

https://resources.jetbrains.com/storage/products/kotlinconf2018/slides/5_Writing Your First Kotlin Compiler Plugin.pdf @fleet cedar

a

[fleet cedar]

Yes I know how to write compiler plugins

But I haven't found any way to alter imports

[deep mulch]

guh?

[valid jetty]

well then i just turn down the roughness

[fleet cedar]

Set roughness to negative

[valid jetty]

roughness is only used in mix so linear interpolation

so it just kinda looks normal

[deep mulch]

make a mirror NOW

[valid jetty]

theyre mirrors, i just dont have a good scene to show that

[deep mulch]

oh

you need more passes

i think

[valid jetty]

and then performance dies

lol

[deep mulch]

find way around

[fleet cedar]

Make the floor plane do perlin noise or something instead

[valid jetty]

i will try to optimize it

[fleet cedar]

That'll make the reflections more fun

Or even just a checkerboard

[deep mulch]

add a teapot model

[valid jetty]

i did wanna try a checkerboard

NO

-1 fps

[deep mulch]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utah_teapot

DOOO

[fleet cedar]

Add every teapot

[deep mulch]

@valid jetty how do i write a memory allocator for my os

[valid jetty]

for a very simple os just write a bump allocator

otherwise implement some heap allocator i guess

[deep mulch]

idk how to get the stack location help

[fleet cedar]

Stack location for what?

[deep mulch]

stack

[crude star]

you need to allocate one

[deep mulch]

yes

its alocated

oh

esp register

[fleet cedar]

The stack for the main thread is allocated by the OS, you shouldn't need to interact with that much

[crude star]

but he's making the os

[shrewd canopy]

if ur in long mode u should use RSP
check out https://wiki.osdev.org/Memory_management for more details though

[crude star]

but x32 abi 🥺

[deep mulch]

death

im in protected mode

[fleet cedar]

Ugly, but PreprocessedVirtualFileFactoryExtension plus some regex seems to do the trick

Would prefer to do it on an ast but gotta take what I can get

[deep mulch]

hmm

trying to draw a square

something is not right

[lofty iris]

I don't use typescript like at all, does anyone have any idea if theres a better way to initialize this value

[crude star]

static readonly feels kind of silly to use so maybe just do this ```ts
class Test {
static bwa: RegExp | null = null;

static {
try {
this.bwa = new RegExp("");
} catch {}
}
}

[lofty iris]

yeah I don't want it being written to

and static blocks arent supported in the target browser :c

[lofty iris]

i did this originally

im the type of person who likes very explicit typing and like access modifiers

[crude star]

thats weird

[lofty iris]

its why i switched to typescript for this anyways lol

I was gonna use JSDocs like I normally do (i dont like TS that much) but its missing stuff I wanted to use

[crude star]

both private and readonly do absolutely nothing after compiled to JS

[lofty iris]

i know lol

[crude star]

you shouldnt really rely on it

[lofty iris]

i dont

its just nice to have it there

in the typing

so its painfully obvious that its like

dont write to this pls :3

[crude star]

I think you're looking for a language called C#
I would actually just make it so the code can never throw
if _colour_count is just number you can do (this._colour_count | 0) * 3 and it'd avoid fractional numbers and NaN

actually considering its a static property

why would you think it'd error anyway

[lofty iris]

ok im back

[lofty iris]

wdym

oh

because some browsers dont support that regex

lol

[crude star]

oh

[lofty iris]

yeah

_colour_count is just an integer for encoding the colours

it just makes the wrapper functions faster

there is internal functions that can encode many other colours besides just that limit i set

[crude star]

javascript classes kind of suck you're probably better off using globals in a separate module

[lofty iris]

i dont mind if they suck

[crude star]

and you def should be using a bundler

[lofty iris]

why

[crude star]

esbuild is very easy to setup

just esbuild --bundle src/index.ts

[lofty iris]

im just

[crude star]

way faster than tsc

[lofty iris]

using the typescript playground rn

[crude star]

erm

[lofty iris]

i didnt wanna setup a whole projet

for a silly thing i wanted to do

its just meant to be a better form of that 3y3 profile theme thing

i cut the byte count down from 25 to 12 so

i'd say its a win on my end

[crude star]

you can expect it to be running on a modern browser then.........................................................

[lofty iris]

meh

it doesnt matter much to me

i want this to be usable on more than just smth like vencord

its a cool tool to be able to encode hidden colours

i just store the data as bgr in the unicode

lol

obv it has a character converter cuz otherwise they wouldnt be invisible

[crude star]

2016 is like an ancient feature

[lofty iris]

shhhhhhhh

😔

sorry

[crude star]

i thought it was newer though ngl

[lofty iris]

idk

maybe im just dumb lmfao

because regexr

doesnt support my regex

and it says its usin js's engine

/[\u{0E0100}-\u{0E01EF}\u{0E0020}-\u{0E0030}]{6}/gu

[lofty iris]

if you thought that was weird then look at this lol

i need to comment my code more

😔

ima make a ts project locally now

uhhhhh

is it a bad practice to write my own .d.ts files

[valid jetty]

@deep mulch @deep mulch

i made proper path tracing

here is your mirror

[lofty iris]

ooooooooooooooooooo

ik u aint talkin to me but uh, whatcha workin on 👀

looks cool

[valid jetty]

im like messing around with a raytracer thingie lol

[lofty iris]

very coolio

whats it made in lol

[lofty iris]

less shiny

[valid jetty]

its running raylib through elle which loads a glsl fragment shader

[lofty iris]

you lost me at elle

I don't know any form of graphics programming

[valid jetty]

elle is my toy compiler project lol

[lofty iris]

it scares me, I can't seem to figure it out lmao

[lofty iris]

oh???

does it do like, a preexisting language?

or something that you made

[valid jetty]

nop its my own compiler from scratch

[lofty iris]

no like like, whats it compiling

[deep mulch]

good

[valid jetty]

uhbbb it compiles into qbe ir

[deep mulch]

now make elle run in a shader running in elle

[valid jetty]

its an alternative to llvm

[lofty iris]

o

is it compiling a custom language

[deep mulch]

Elle for risc v when

[valid jetty]

yeah

[lofty iris]

awesome

[valid jetty]

???

you already can

rv64 is real

[deep mulch]

oh

elle for x86 when

[valid jetty]

who uses x86 nowadays anyway

tsodinClueless

[lofty iris]

me

[deep mulch]

everyone

[valid jetty]

are you thinking of x86_64

nobody really has 32 bit computers anymore

[lofty iris]

uh

not true

a lot of hospitals use 32-bit

I myself have 2 32-bit computers that I still use

[deep mulch]

yes

[crude star]

amd meets up with intel at a bar. "why the long mode?", says intel

(itanium is found dead the following day)

[royal nymph]

i do

[lofty iris]

im to lazy to make the output any smaller

so for now the encoded colours are at 12 chars compared to the 3y3 of 24 (removing all the nasty padding vencord adds inside it)

[lofty iris]

okay yeah

I don't think going any further has much benefit because I can only cut off like

[valid jetty]

can you possibly make this smaller than that?? because like each 2 bytes represent a single color channel

[lofty iris]

2 - 4 characters in very specific cases

[valid jetty]

how do you possibly encode that information into less bytes

[lofty iris]

#aabbcc can be turned into #abc which can be encoded in 4 characters instead of 6

[valid jetty]

oh i guess so

[lofty iris]

if you wanna go even further you can apply deduping and just put a special character to duplicate the prev

would save 4 chars

[valid jetty]

im assuming you dont encode the hashtag right so then it would be 3 chars instead of 4 no?

[lofty iris]

no

its 6

[valid jetty]

oh i

[lofty iris]

lmao

[valid jetty]

i meant that

sowee

[lofty iris]

the values are encoded to invisible unicode characters

each one takes 2 characters

[valid jetty]

oh i guess that makes sense actually that it has to be an even amount

[lofty iris]

and yes i remove the hashtag

it uses an encoding map to convert 0-255 to an invisible character

only 16 of them are the tag characters

the rest come from the group after it (which goes to EF)

vencord currently just uses 3y3 encoding so best case scenario is 24 characters

2 hex colours, 6 letters per colour, 2 bytes per letter
2 * 6 * 2 is 24

currently the way vencord does it is with like [#hexcode1,#hexcode2] which adds 10 characters

bc of the [#,#] chars

[valid jetty]

that makes sense

[lofty iris]

mine just encodes the RGB data into the unicode values themselves

its 100% possible to get it smaller but only for specific cases like the #aabbcc one

other than making a more advanced map that maps possible 000-FFF values

which could get the result down 2 characters for a single hex code

and then down 4 for the #aabbcc case

meaning itd go from currently 38 characters to 4 if that was to be applied

peak bio space saving

[lofty iris]

the only issue with this is finding another F00 amount of invisible characters with 0 width that I can use

at that point they would be so spaced out I'd probably have to manually write half of the map

currently the map is made up of 2 long sections of invisible characters

that are very easy to generate in a for loop for the map

i chose 0x0E_01_00 over the latin tags because it goes to EF (missing 16 chars instead of 128) instead of 7F

then the latin tags provide the other 16 missing characters

I honestly don't know of any possible way besides what ive listed to go any further on this lmao

pushing the limits of the unicode characters here

im gonna look through the list of invisible characters to see if i can find more regions to grab from

but a lot of these are used in legitimate stuff like arabic characters and alike

yeah currently need around 3776 more characters

and I don't think theres that many

yeah

unless theres more I don't know about (over half of these are reserved language override stuffs)

there isnt any way I can think of to get a map with 0xFFF support

sorry for the yap fest btw, I just like explaining shit im doing when someone asks about it

[gilded surge]

i had a slight inaccuracy in some code i was writing because i was using a hex literal slightly larger than MAX_SAFE_INTEGER

also i just love how javascript has no sized types

like they have pretty decent bitwise stuff but no sized types

[lofty iris]

you can use the byte arrays

if you really want sizing

other than that it doesnt really need sized types and its not meant to have them

[gilded surge]

i just did a big old crc &= ~(BigInt(1)<<BigInt(64))

[lofty iris]

damn

im busy doin this

[valid jetty]

@deep mulch @hoary sluice FINALLY

I SPENT SO LONG TRYING TO FIGURE THIS OUT

[lofty iris]

if I limit it

to only 2 hex codes

then I managed this

[lucid trail]

oh this is so beautiful

have you seen Sebastian Lague's videos? they're great

[valid jetty]

yes! the bvh video is actually what made me just open a file and start trying to write one lol

i looooove sebastian lague

[lucid trail]

right? his presentation and voice is so calming

and like really good explanations too

[valid jetty]

people came up with "bob ross of programming" and thats actually so true

[lucid trail]

yeah his cat appearances are a plus

[deep mulch]

good

nowww add refraction

[valid jetty]

that is exactly what is happening

in that image

[frosty obsidian]

zeet just learned these words last week give him time

[valid jetty]

i added roughness and gave the spheres different ior

[frosty obsidian]

7 fps

[valid jetty]

its rendering at a very high sample rate

[deep mulch]

@valid jetty make it faster

[valid jetty]

i can lower it but then it looks a little noisy

[deep mulch]

@valid jetty read how blender does their EEVEE rendering

[valid jetty]

that is far more complicated than i can make

[deep mulch]

you could make it in like a day youre the worlds smartest person

[frosty obsidian]

@valid jetty recreate the universe entirely in code

[valid jetty]

thats my next goal

[deep mulch]

ive wanted to combine all of sebastian lague videos into one thing

[frosty obsidian]

simulate individual protons moving through space

[deep mulch]

rosie has a pocket universe

[frosty obsidian]

i have one of those

[deep mulch]

how

[lofty iris]

I think my goofy ahh invisible colour thing is done

It has support for decoding my little format, a very optimized 2 hex code format (for vencord), and the unoptimized 3y3 format

[fleet cedar]

You should add a smiley face to one of them

[fleet cedar]

Like that ↑

[valid jetty]

lmao great idea

how would i do that tho

[fleet cedar]

Dunno

I'm just the idea guy

[deep mulch]

textures

[lethal quarry]

remade the oneko plugin in roblox the cat sprite is from the github link and I just used that but erm ye

this cat plugin

[austere idol]

gpu-accelerated realtime software raytracing 🥺

[lofty iris]

I got bored and ended up making the same little colour encoding thing but for this

-# obv it includes the font and effect

[lofty iris]

this uses the same advanced colour encoder I made for the 2 hex code specific one (for vencord)

so it has the same savings with the deduping and shrinking

[lofty iris]

oooooooo

very stupid idea

bio blah blah

https://discordbios.example.com/userid
^^ plugin would fetch and replace inline

lmfao

[fleet cedar]

Yaay loading arbitrary domains

[lofty iris]

it wouldnt be arbitrary

usrbg exists and they have an "arbitrary" domain

https://usrbg.is-hardly.online/usrbg/v2/userid

[jade stone]

GUHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

why doesn't svg support border-radius

[royal nymph]

just put it on the parent and overflow hidden or smth

[jade stone]

no i am doing something much more cursed than you could ever imagine

i think i will end up generating svg path at runtime

[supple whale]

smth smth not part of the DOM

it's why some events don't fire on svgs

[royal nymph]

have u tried putting css inside your svg

maybe that'll work

[jade stone]

i love onMouseLeave firing when you hover over an svg in the same element

[jade stone]

no, svg does not support the border-radius css property

[royal nymph]

you love css in svg

have u tried clip-path or smth

[jade stone]

you cant use an html element as a clip path and even if you could, i still dont think it would work for what i am doing

[tired vigil]

Have u tried
foreign object element
with html and css inside

[jade stone]

wont work for what im doing

[tired vigil]

😭

[jade stone]

html elements dont support stroke

[winged mantle]

does this folder have the greatest thing i ever made which i completely forgot about
or is it a crappy app with awful code

[royal nymph]

idgi

[jade stone]

guhhh

[jade stone]

oh

you have it on the svg

not the rect

[dawn ledge]

the friendly rx, ry, width, height attributes on rect

[jade stone]

wouldnt call them friendly

[dawn ledge]

https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/SVG/Reference/Attribute/rx

looks friendly to me

[jade stone]

again, i need to copy the border radius from an html element to an svg element

[dawn ledge]

guh

[jade stone]

i already have code to generate path data

using that rn

[dawn ledge]

what even are you doing

[deep mulch]

satanic stuff

[jade stone]

ill send when im done

[supple whale]

yeah u need to use <mask> and <foreignObject>

see what discord does for the status icon

inspect element it

[balmy lintel]

wrong channel sorry

[valid jetty]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/542264318465671170/1431333905881104455/8mb.video-hAr-MCFFdFOs.mp4?ex=68fd0914&is=68fbb794&hm=3ea57fa0446917689b12bce1bc81842a10a01772c77c8553c720ba036803c38c&

i added lights

[dense sand]

is it in elle

[valid jetty]

uhhh yes but the actual rendering is done on the gpu

[deep mulch]

add volumetric fog now

[valid jetty]

my laptop will EXPLODE

[deep mulch]

make it run in realtime

144 fps

figure out how to use cuda

[valid jetty]

i dont think i can even do bvh because there arent that many shapes

its just slow

[deep mulch]

aren't there aren't that

[valid jetty]

what

[deep mulch]

that's what you said

[valid jetty]

ih

oh

[deep mulch]

implement marching cubes

[valid jetty]

i did wanna try at some point

but i think ive exhausted my programming capibilities

[deep mulch]

I will continue your legacy

[ornate quiver]

@valid jetty @valid jetty @valid jetty @valid jetty so much elle and no website

[deep mulch]

@valid jetty teach me how to implement VGA graphics

@ornate quiver you too

I need to implement double buffering as well

:blobcatcozy:

[valid jetty]

look at this improvement in the past 2 days

[valid jetty]

i hate writing frontend code

[deep mulch]

rosie is exponentially getting smarter

in 2 more days it will be a complete game

[ornate quiver]

so do i

[deep mulch]

I keep procrastinating my website rewrite guh

[ornate quiver]

DO

hop on astro + tailwindcss

[jade stone]

Still don't think that would work for what im doing but I'll try it later

[jade stone]

it might work

(i assumed you couldn't mask foreignObject becase you can't use them as clips either)

[hoary sluice]

turn this into a game engine!!!

[jade stone]

I rewrote for him but he won't use

[deep mulch]

theres no blog

fix

[valid jetty]

werent you saying im wasting my time a few days ago

tsodinClueless

[deep mulch]

@valid jetty hiii

[valid jetty]

hiii

[jade stone]

(the code for this is so cursed)
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1335058334335893604/1431389535463407850/2025-10-24_17-10-09.mp4?ex=68fd3ce3&is=68fbeb63&hm=2d21870674379248c0c488dc3d8af2d84e8882a3b28d9788c84aabe0f035c4ec&

[jade stone]

ended up needing to use foreignObject, but not mask

(mask wouldnt work when i tried it )

[valid jetty]

yay

[lucid trail]

Add antialiasing