🪅-progaming

[royal nymph]

[jade stone]

insane

[royal nymph]

this is what got outputted

maybe im just missing some config and it's a skill issue but I've always had pain from trying to create npm packages with typescript

[crude star]

"moduleResolution": "bundler"

you should always be using

[royal nymph]

so i get why people are moving back to js and using jsdoc. for typing instead

[tired vigil]

You can't in browsers iirc
At least that's the only thing I learned from this talk, cuz I didnt understand most of it
https://youtu.be/WJXoSsLTD70?t=671

[royal nymph]

why is this not the default

[crude star]

no idea

[royal nymph]

probably backwards compact

[crude star]

tbh i always have to dig up some old tsconfig from a previous project

when i make a new one

[royal nymph]

YEAH

bootstrapping a ts project is so annoying

the defaults are so ass

imagine if ts was good and had sane defaults so 99% of projects wouldn't need a tsconfig at all

didn

[jade stone]

didn't the change the tsc --init defaults recently

[crude star]

there's a tsc --init command..?

[jade stone]

https://www.typescriptlang.org/docs/handbook/release-notes/typescript-5-9.html#minimal-and-updated-tsc---init

[royal nymph]

yeah but it's the most basic thing ever

tbh i just hate that ts is so boilerplate / setup heavy

with js you can just make a single file and run it directly

with ts you gotta make an entire project, configure building, etc

[crude star]

hop on https://npmjs.com/package/tsx

it kinda sucks tho

there's a couple weird slowdowns

[jade stone]

pipe through esbuild

[royal nymph]

yeah

[deep mulch]

HAHAHATUAHMISU

[royal nymph]

rini thinks I'm new to this world... https://github.com/Vencord/Vesktop/blob/main/package.json#L12

[pearl stag]

package.json: Line 12

"build": "tsx scripts/build/build.mts",

[deep mulch]

I yell eureka when my code works

[royal nymph]

[crude star]

tsx was slowing down vap's parser by 10x because of some dumb esbuild default

[deep mulch]

@crude star huiii

[woven mesa]

gm oomfies

[crude star]

u were born last year..

[deep mulch]

sigh

[deep mulch]

I was made in a lab

[tired vigil]

Also I just realized, wouldn't this always return the whole object?
await x == x, when x is not a promise

[royal nymph]

no

[tired vigil]

How

[supple whale]

huh wdym

[crude star]

> await new Proxy({}, { get(o,k) { console.log(k) } })
then

[royal nymph]

ve ```js
const fakePromise = { then: cb => cb("hi") };

return await fakePromise;

[elder yarrow]

'hi'```

[royal nymph]

the promise class is optional

[tired vigil]

Huhh interesting

[royal nymph]

you just need a then method

[royal nymph]

#🪅-progaming message

[crude star]

vap did this

[supple whale]

https://www.typescriptlang.org/docs/handbook/modules/appendices/esm-cjs-interop.html

what gets outputted is pretty much correct

TS for the most part works on CJS

i remember there was some Object define things that could get it done

but i hate it and its hacky

[royal nymph]

why make this a promise tho

whenever I need something like that I just return a plain function

[crude star]

its kinda like an oncecell

but body is async

[supple whale]

but u rly should just do:

"exports": {
  ".": {
    "import": "./dist/index.mjs",
    "require": "./dist/index.cjs"
  }
},

[crude star]

right now its for fs.readFile

[royal nymph]

don't read

[crude star]

how

[jade stone]

yeah, this is what i do

[supple whale]

you could do

Object.defineProperty(module.exports, '__esModule', { value: true });

and anything that uses babel/ts will treat it as ESM

but yeah, its not a good idea

[royal nymph]

completely missed the point award

I do that already

the point is that typescript esm to cjs compiles export default to a cjs export named default instead of setting module.exports

so if you require() it you get { default: theFuckingExports }

[supple whale]

function factory (exports) {
  function greet() {
    return 'Hello world'
  }

  exports.default = greet
  
  if (typeof module === 'object' && module.exports) {
    module.exports = Object.assign(greet, exports)
  }
}
if (typeof module === 'object' && typeof module.exports === 'object') {
  factory(module.exports)
  Object.defineProperty(module.exports, '__esModule', { value: true })
} else if (typeof define === 'function' && define.amd) {
  define(['exports'], factory)
} else {
  factory(self.myLibrary = {})
}

idk this could work maybe?

[supple whale]

well yeah

ur output target it CJS probably

so like

what do you expect to happen?

set ur output target to ESM and dont worry about it simply?

[royal nymph]

what

[supple whale]

you're importing ESM from CJS

the fact that it even allows that is a miracle tbf

either use only CJS, or output ESM

https://www.typescriptlang.org/tsconfig/#allowSyntheticDefaultImports might fix it?

that or "moduleResolution": "bundler"

[crude star]

i wish deno was real

[winged mantle]

why is c const so weak

it doesn't seem to apply to struct arrays?

[supple whale]

trully

[crude star]

what are you doing

[crude star]

theres a difference between const *T and *const T

[winged mantle]

yeah i am aware of the difference

[crude star]

hmm i guess it probably doesnt care about the fields if they're not also const

const is just a suggestion anyways

[winged mantle]

strikes me as odd

because by putting the const on the very start it is definitely saying the data is const, not the pointer

and so if it had a field int i and you tried to increment it that wouldn't work

[spark tiger]

@valid jetty heyyy what theme do u use in zed

[winged mantle]

but ++array_of_ints[0] is fine?

[supple whale]

OLED black only allowed editor theme

[winged mantle]

that feels so illogical for an array that's part of the same memory as the struct

[limpid mica]

that shouldn't writable

[spark tiger]

i want a cool looking one

[supple whale]

OLED black :))))

[winged mantle]

/run

#include <stdio.h>

struct s {
    int ints[10];
};

void modify_s(const struct s *s) {
    ++s->ints[0];
}

void main() {
    struct s s = {0};
    modify_s(&s);
    printf("%d\n", s.ints[0]);
}

[rugged berry]

@winged mantle I received c(10.2.0) compile errors

file0.code.c: In function 'modify_s':
file0.code.c:8:5: error: increment of read-only location 's->ints[0]'
    8 |     ++s->ints[0];
      |     ^~
chmod: cannot access 'a.out': No such file or directory
file0.code.c: In function 'modify_s':
file0.code.c:8:5: error: increment of read-only location 's->ints[0]'
    8 |     ++s->ints[0];
      |     ^~
chmod: cannot access 'a.out': No such file or directory

[spark tiger]

i think its cattpuccin blur but something is wrong with it for me

[winged mantle]

i guess it's just vscode not reporting the error

[supple whale]

:)))))

my highly cursed custom theme

[winged mantle]

is it fair to call c a dynamically typed language

[valid jetty]

https://github.com/acquitelol/catpuccin-zed

a heavily tweaked catpuccin mocha

[spark tiger]

too dark

[winged mantle]

catputin

[supple whale]

yes sir

OLED burn-in is real

so it needs to be #000

[spark tiger]

does it have blur by default?

[crude star]

its not real

your screen just sucks

[supple whale]

sir i paid over a thousand bucks for this display

[spark tiger]

my screen isnt even oled anyways

[supple whale]

tbf its a gen2 but still

[winged mantle]

i recently stopped putting const on variables with automatic storage for c/++

because it feels pointless

[supple whale]

then you're not enjoying life for what its worth ngl

that said having to spend a grand every 4 years kinda sucks

XD

[crude star]

ok

[valid jetty]

depends on your OS

[winged mantle]

only if it's a pointer does it really matter

[spark tiger]

macos now ;)

[valid jetty]

if youre on linux with a good compositor or macos itll work

[winged mantle]

but recently i remembered getting a warning sometimes - it said it wouldn't move the return value if it's const

so i guess that's a reason to avoid it (other than just verbosity)

hmm though is this as in return value optimisation or as in std::move

[valid jetty]

❓

[crude star]

yea

void*

[winged mantle]

i mean it basically is

with #define you do have true duck typing

[limpid mica]

_Generic

[winged mantle]

yeah and _Generic is instanceof

[valid jetty]

how are you planning to make print(x) on a void *

[winged mantle]

don't

[valid jetty]

actually

[winged mantle]

make it a macro

and use _Generic

[valid jetty]

you can extend your idea of how to it

https://www.libcello.org/

[winged mantle]

i mean isn't this just c+

[valid jetty]

no

[winged mantle]

that language which everyone seems to think exists

[crude star]

#define print __builtin_dump_struct

[spark tiger]

yay its so pretty now. wait why is it so different on the screenshot :/

[winged mantle]

oh it's a library??

[valid jetty]

because i edited it a bunch

you should close windows behind zed

so it blurs the bg of your desktop theme

[spark tiger]

no when i screenshot the window it removes the blur i think

i mean the transparent effect

[valid jetty]

oh lol

[spark tiger]

oh thats when i do ⌘+shift+4+space

aka screenshot a window

[valid jetty]

i just cmd+shift+3

[spark tiger]

i like ⌘+shift+4+space cuz it does that pretty shadow

[winged mantle]

what's the point of macos when latte dock exists

[spark tiger]

anyways ty for the theme i like it sm

just tweaked it a bit by removing the italics

[winged mantle]

or gnome

why apple creating their knockoff gnome

[valid jetty]

i also made a few others https://github.com/acquitelol/zed-themes if you wanna try them

[spark tiger]

@grok when was gnome created and when was macos created

[spark tiger]

if they have that same transparent blur effect then sure i mighttry

[winged mantle]

is it weird that io in c feels more convinient than in many other languages

[spark tiger]

pressing ⌥+space opens chatgpt why

[valid jetty]

ok i havent updated them in a while so they dont look that good anymore

the fact that my wallpaper isnt brown also fucks with that

[supple whale]

sorry had to XD

[winged mantle]

how much can you tell about a person from their system tray

[spark tiger]

my safari is trippin why did it load x.com when i reloaded your github repo

[spark tiger]

i hate how much shit i have there

[spark tiger]

why do i keep sobbing

[valid jetty]

chatgpt

[spark tiger]

i asked it how a dns server works

[winged mantle]

why doesn't grok have a system tray icon

or does it

[spark tiger]

i dont even have grok installed

ion use ts

[winged mantle]

why are you not using https://github.com/Jaennaet/pISSStream

[supple whale]

BASED

[spark tiger]

i even have it starred lol

[winged mantle]

vscode is being weird

doesn't error with return; on a bool function

i know you can omit return entirely but i don't think it's legal to return the wrong thing explicitly

[valid jetty]

if you dont return anything itll return undefined which coerces to false

[winged mantle]

this is c

[valid jetty]

an empty return is secretly a return 0 then

[supple whale]

depends on ur ts config

mine allows it

[shrewd canopy]

😐

[winged mantle]

THIS IS C 😭

[supple whale]

since it infers return as boolean | undefined

OH LOL

WTF

[crude star]

no

her vscode diagnostics are broken

[winged mantle]

I DON'T HAVE A F*CKING TSCONFIG I HAVE A MAKEFILE 😂 😂

[crude star]

hop on ccls

[winged mantle]

[supple whale]

cpu underclocks itself when low load

so realisticalyl im at like 5%-ish

[winged mantle]

there should be a plugin called linus torvalds which randomly inserts personal attacks but also censors all swear words

[supple whale]

that can be arranged

actually this isnt even difficult to do, his mailing list is public

aggregating it and making a model from it will take like 2h XD

[shrewd canopy]

me when 50%+ CPU is caused by electron programs

[spark tiger]

need more apps on dock

[supple whale]

see this is why all of my eveerything is a PWA

that said im still running an electron instance, my anime player app

[valid jetty]

why do you have all the stock apps

[supple whale]

@winged mantle

Holy f***ing s***, what kind of digital disaster am I looking at here? This isn't a compiler project, it's a goddamn archaeological expedition through the worst design decisions known to humankind!
You've got more d*** modules than a modular synthesizer convention! What the h*** is this file structure - did you organize this by throwing darts at a board while blindfolded? compiler.le, statement.le, function.le - congratulations, you've reinvented the wheel and somehow made it f***ing square!
And what's with these compilation times? 1.3 seconds for tokenization? My deceased hamster could tokenize faster by chewing through punch cards! You're importing modules like you're collecting Pokemon cards - gotta catch 'em all, even the useless ones apparently.
Look at this b******* - you've got so many temporary variables and binops that it looks like someone exploded a computer science textbook all over your screen. And don't get me started on whatever the h*** QbeInstr::BinOp is supposed to accomplish other than making my eyes bleed.
The only thing more bloated than your dependency tree is the amount of screen real estate you're wasting on this trainwreck. Close some of these d*** panels and focus on writing code that doesn't look like it was generated by a malfunctioning AI having an existential crisis!

[valid jetty]

please

[supple whale]

X

D

WORKS

[spark tiger]

this is only my 2nd day of using a mac so i kinda just didnt really touch anything yet

[winged mantle]

lmaoo

[supple whale]

unironically peak idea

[winged mantle]

And don't get me started on whatever the h*** QbeInstr::BinOp is supposed to accomplish other than making my eyes bleed.

[spark tiger]

wtf???

[winged mantle]

is this chatgpt

[supple whale]

@royal nymph we need tihs as a bot for this channel

[valid jetty]

this feels so soulless

[supple whale]

nah its claude, its trained on linux's mailing list

more code

[valid jetty]

its insulting absolutely nothing

[supple whale]

yep!

GPT usually has less random repositories that its trained on

[winged mantle]

you've reinvented the wheel and somehow made it f***ing square!
come on

this is gold

[supple whale]

its decent for AI slop tbf

we need a .v insult cmd for this channel specifically

for when people post ??? shit

[winged mantle]

when i say chatgpt i mean how like people say hoover or ipad or even nintendo even though it's actaully a brand name to refer to the generic product

[supple whale]

ah fair

i usually tend to split models into what they are actually good for

deepseek/claude - small coding shit
gpt - microsoft word bot
gemini - big code, massive documents

[winged mantle]

unrelated but if somebody told me that msvc support compiling code from microsoft word documents i'd believe them

[supple whale]

for the longest time ms word files were just a raw memory dump

so i mean, i can entirely belive it

[deep mulch]

@valid jetty

hii

[jade stone]

@deep mulch i'm going to try to remake discord's switch animation without looking at how they do it

[deep mulch]

horror

[deep mulch]

how

[weak charm]

https://tenor.com/view/wesker-albert-albert-wesker-resident-evil-resident-evil-4-gif-5143688443782660001

[frosty skiff]

guys what if we obfuscated mc datapacks

even better lets add virtualisation

[lucid trail]

actually just don’t use the dock at all

you don’t need it

[ornate quiver]

we have datapack obfuscation???

awful

[runic sundial]

Who the fuck is gonna be stealing your shit fuck datapacks

Actually I already know the answer to this, "job security" in some Minecraft server mini games bullshit I bet

[deep mulch]

me

[runic sundial]

Can I steal your frog

[deep mulch]

nop

[ornate quiver]

i will obfuscate and close source aliucord

[frosty skiff]

datapack virtualisaton

🥺

im working on making it more & more annoying

[frosty skiff]

funny thing is

like

idek what someone would do with datapack obfuscation its like

beyond useless 😭

like people try to obfuscate mc resource packs

to avoid their assets from being stolen

mainly cuz servers like cytooxien and similar will send a resource pack to the client so they're able todo certain things like shaders funnies

but datapacks arent even recieved by the client 😭

🥴

[runic sundial]

Datapacks are commissionined.

Thus they want to charge for tweaks

And yeah, I see the point in obfuscating stuff like shaders. Some have really fancy tech.

[frosty skiff]

the mc scene is definitely interesting in terms of

protecting what they want

in the plugin/mod scene a lot of people like jni for such

i was looking at smth the other day that seems to be a paid server fork

[runic sundial]

I obf stuff I don't want the competition to yoink, I don't really bother with JNI for it tho

[frosty skiff]

wait till u see the mc plugins/mods with 15 stages 💔

[frosty skiff]

they do a lot of sillies like checking whether defineclass is hooked

(its a terrible check but the fact that they do it is interesting lol)

a lot of them tend to use a transpiler like radiogeers or jnic or jnt

and then some use cracked vmp or themidia ontop of that

[runic sundial]

Imagine not having a legitimate license for an enterprise grade obfuscatation tool

Literal poverty

[frosty skiff]

I think the only things I've paid for are like, ZKM & codevirtualiser

[runic sundial]

Never paid for any of that I just asked for a non-commercial Alatori license.

[frosty skiff]

is allatori even any good

last time I saw smth using it was like 5 years ago lol

[runic sundial]

ZKM is better still

[shrewd canopy]

Imagine obfuscating stuff smh

[runic sundial]

But in my case even something homebrew would be enough

[runic sundial]

Dude but it's so funny to have people BEG for the sourcecode

[shrewd canopy]

My software isnt obfuscated at all and i only help reverse engineering it if its closed source anyway

[frosty skiff]

I think in the mc scene it's funny mainly because no one is good at protecting their software

[shrewd canopy]

And?

[frosty skiff]

they will buy ZKM and not know how to configure it

[runic sundial]

Funni

Have you taken a crack at reversing FastCraft by chance?

[frosty skiff]

nah

if u link it i can take a look

[runic sundial]

https://www.curseforge.com/minecraft/mc-mods/fastcraft/files/2522249

Enjoy

I believe it's some riced out ZKM

[frosty skiff]

nothing SSVM cant handle

[runic sundial]

Go for it

It's notorious for being hard to deobf so it would be entertaining to see if it can be put into a state where it can be recompiled

[frosty skiff]

Look's a lot less complicated then most ZKM configs I've seen

[runic sundial]

How do you usually get around integrity checks?

[frosty skiff]

hooking mgnfjdgg 🤤

I mean for this specifically

I can't imagine they'll wanna touch me for using a agent

people suck at checking for agents too atleast from what I've seen

[runic sundial]

Considering I can hook JProfiler and it doesn't crash I don't think it cares for agents

[frosty skiff]

even if they do complicate their integrity/anti-tamper checks I'm experienced with that

mc cheats will check your PEB for cmd line args to check whether you're using an agent lmao

or if you open a handle they'll ntraiseharderror

[frosty skiff]

unironically the best way to hook stuff is with jvmti

I don't think there's a good public way to check whether someone is using jvmti

it's why people who want to disable jvmti will just roll their own jre

they'd rather disable it/make it obsolete then attempt to try & detect it

[runic sundial]

Man the people I'm up against would be filtered by progard I never needed any of these fancy do-dads

They are mere level 1 goblin

[frosty skiff]

🥴 loader for a mc server fork that patches the jvm

also the native itself is obfed

[winged mantle]

why are you using native code for a minecraft server

write once run anywhere

[runic sundial]

For the vine

[frosty skiff]

funny thing is

they dont supply any other native

they only have it for linux

write once run on linux

[runic sundial]

Wsl2

[winged mantle]

horror

tbf whenever iw rite something in c its like that

[winged mantle]

i just have a raylib folder with only linux natives and a makefile

[frosty skiff]

if u ever wanna take a look at smth interesting, https://jnic.dev/ is

I'm working on a sequel to my blogpost about reversing jni

that includes going over reversing apps using jnic

[winged mantle]

JNIC translates compiled (and optionally obfuscated) Java methods to the C programming language

[frosty skiff]

yes

transpilation 🤤

[winged mantle]

how does java new work in c

and calling java classes

i guess jni api allows that?

[runic sundial]

Ok but have you gotten FastCraft to compile from source yet?

I offered the author 10 dollar discor nitro and he never replied :(

[frosty skiff]

wow

[runic sundial]

At least the OptiFine developer replied

[winged mantle]

is the author the owner of the fabric discord or is that somebody else

[runic sundial]

He said I can decompile if I need to make support patches

[runic sundial]

Definitely involved with fabric

Same player

[winged mantle]

just do that without permission like everyone else

[runic sundial]

No but I have it in writing

Do you?

I have permission

[winged mantle]

i mean what's gonna happen if you decompile it as long as you don't plagiarise

[runic sundial]

Ok but do you have permission

It's not that you can't do it

It's that you didn't ask beforehand

It's not about the legality

[winged mantle]

ever seen that website that just has publicly available optifine sources in rar files even including some mojang code

[runic sundial]

Yeah

Does it include a working buildscript?

That will generate the xdeltas

[winged mantle]

no i'm not suggesting it

[runic sundial]

I already ported all of OptiFine 1.7.10 to Mixin

[winged mantle]

lmao

[runic sundial]

Like years ago at this point

Took me like 2 weeks

[winged mantle]

horror

[runic sundial]

It was insane

[winged mantle]

what's wrong with you...

[runic sundial]

It was before I had bipolar meds

I was manic

devilish

Recently opened up the project again to clean it up and do more investigation as to how it works

Then did an internal writeup on how the shader engine and hooks work

Handed the writeup to a friend who then by proxy helps me cleanroom code a new shadermod for 1.7.10

And it's not stealing if I only described the idea to someone else and they did it

[winged mantle]

slf4c when

[winged mantle]

why

opera ide

[crude star]

its java

[deep mulch]

@crude star

[crude star]

zt only pings me in programming chat

[deep mulch]

yop

[spark tiger]

hermes???

[runic sundial]

@frosty skiff did u finish reverse engineering the magic and the mystery of FastCraft or did you get filtered by ADHD

[frosty skiff]

I got filtered by the fact that it just seems really boring 😭

it's like me deobfing shitty MC rats

[runic sundial]

wow ok

so what's your claim to fame then

[frosty skiff]

idk I like reversing complicated stuff

[runic sundial]

i gave you the most complicated thing i have encountered and u got bored before telling me what it does

so idk

NecoArc

[frosty skiff]

u really want me to try dont u

[runic sundial]

i mean

yeah cause im curious

But also i like talking to people that make/do cool stuff

[frosty skiff]

hmm

[runic sundial]

and so far you just yappen on about how people suck at what they do

instead of showing me the guts of some project you tore up and documented

[frosty skiff]

hmmm okay

I guess it's something to write a blog about tooo

I'll look at fastcraft lemme get on my laptop

[runic sundial]

have u already got a blog with cool stuff on it?

or just starting

[frosty skiff]

I'm in the middle of writing a part 2 to https://aprl.cat/articles/jni-reversing-part-1/

[runic sundial]

yooo

this is actually a sick JNI guide

respect

[frosty skiff]

I've deobfed like 15 classes so far and god this is boring 💔

I think I'm gonna write something on JNIC instead sorry noting this is kinda boring

[runic sundial]

noted.

if i want people to avoid touching my code; make the deobf process boring

[frosty skiff]

true

thats how drms do it

[runic sundial]

you're legit thoe, that jni post is epic

[jade stone]

UI makes me happy
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1124544746262634606/1408619480711434281/2025-08-22_21-10-37.mp4?ex=68aa669f&is=68a9151f&hm=18876e12c080c8429bc1a5725cf0100231c1d07144ae7f6bb58d60bc36835cf5&

[frosty skiff]

i like the switches

[jade stone]

ty

[runic sundial]

@frosty skiffOH

[frosty skiff]

meow

[runic sundial]

I know of a good one, it's not one I care about but it's one that I got filtered by

[frosty skiff]

what isi t

[runic sundial]

https://github.com/darkbot-reloaded/darkbot

This one

The natives it loads are kinda weird.
See, you can launch it from IntelliJ in debug just fine

BUT

if you compile it, the native don't load

Like it has sources for the front end

But the real meat & potatoes is like

The natives it uses to emulate a browser playing the game

Not sure if you're interested in it

But I think it's kinda neat

https://github.com/darkbot-reloaded/DarkBot/blob/dc48506543199ce1008364a00a7dca385c8c7afa/src/main/java/com/github/manolo8/darkbot/utils/LibSetup.java#L22

[pearl stag]

LibSetup.java: Line 22

private static final String BASE_URL = "https://gist.github.com/Pablete1234/2e43458bb3b644e16d146969069b1548/raw/";

[runic sundial]

https://gist.github.com/Pablete1234/2e43458bb3b644e16d146969069b1548/raw/

Natives get pulled from here

[frosty skiff]

hmm okie

[jade stone]

thoughts on this animation
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1335058334335893604/1408690942604480554/2025-08-23_01-53-34.mp4?ex=68aaa92c&is=68a957ac&hm=97415a50d423a6edd437a2d43b189da2599bd74231fd02541388fada46157a55&

[tired vigil]

Add some fade to that text maybe

[queen jasper]

it's move up and down

[jade stone]

https://github.com/sadan4/sadan.zip/blob/web/src/components/Input.tsx#L260-L271

[pearl stag]

Input.tsx: Lines 260-271

useEffect(() => {
    if (errorRef.current) {
        const size = errorRef.current.getBoundingClientRect();

        if (animateInitialRender.current) {
            height.set(size.height);
            animateInitialRender.current = false;
        } else {
            height.start(size.height);
        }
    }
});

[jade stone]

it's not

skyblock

I'll stick with what I have

[spark tiger]

okay

[tired vigil]

does this work if the property value itself doesn't change?
iirc last time I tried I couldn't animate from height: auto to height: auto

but I didn't try requestAnimationFrame

or .animate

[supple whale]

scale fade and blur

alwayyyys

https://vxtwitter.com/jakubkrehel/status/1955311846337954166?s=46

Jakub Krehel (@jakubkrehel)

Animating opacity, scale and blur in buttons when different icons are shown contextually makes them feel much better.

This is a comparison between no animation, opacity only animation and opacity, scale and blur animation. https://t.co/2SdTSW11me

▶ Play video

vxTwitter / fixvx · Aug 12, 2025, 4:54 PM

[royal nymph]

https://x.com/kanewang_/status/1958938416349171779

Kane Wang (@kanewang_)

in the next version of bun

Bun.serve can run Minecraft server for you

X · Aug 22, 2025, 5:04 PM

are you guys looking forward to this?

[dense sand]

In the next version of bun, bun.serve can serve legal orders to its users

[ionic lake]

owen willson got free ice cream

[lavish frigate]

1 yr too late

biden wouldve loved this

[supple whale]

honestly, that'd be kinda good

[dense sand]

You shall only use nextjs

[supple whale]

abso fucking lutely not

im in love with my current build system

ts check -> typed eslint -> license checks -> build

.

still waiting for oxlint to achieve parity with eslint, cuz my estlint setup is starting to lag

https://github.com/hayase-app/ui/actions/runs/16813275095/job/47623670812

for this one i also typecheck GQL

so u cant even deploy anything if the GQL schema changes

.

[dense sand]

No biome booo

[supple whale]

biome is fucking dogshit

[dense sand]

Why

[supple whale]

it can barely do 10% of what eslint can

and it STILL doesnt support svelte

oxlint still doesnt have TS support

biome... does.... kinda... but it falls short of what eslint does

and estint perf tanks in TS rules not in JS rules

"we fixed eslint performance, by removing the laggy features, so u cant use them at all!"

.

bun mindset right there

[dense sand]

Bun + nextjs + biome i see a great stack right here

[supple whale]

https://tenor.com/view/bocchi-the-rock-bocchi-hitori-gif-27014251

[crude star]

too slow

[ionic lake]

if you don't need plugins, typeaware linting is available now too (in preview)

[supple whale]

ill wait for now

dont have the time to fuck around with testing it as of now

giga busy

[ionic lake]

all good

[supple whale]

and i alr have a massive list of things lined up in my todo once i finish this shit

i want to finish the EBML muxer for firefox and safari

and well... android webviews

[dense sand]

Yall any tips for projects for my thesis(matura)? Id like it to be some fullstack web app or something similar. Ideally react and im very open to not using nextjs

[tired vigil]

Write a discord clone

[supple whale]

not a forum and not a note taking app

and you're set

those are like the kings of being generic

[dense sand]

Those were my ideas

[dense sand]

I actually wanted something with websockets

[tired vigil]

Realtime chat stuff could be cool

[dense sand]

We're back at the forum

[tired vigil]

😭

You're lucky that you can pick your own project, for my graduation exam I had to write a full stack app in like 7 hours without internet access

[dense sand]

Are we talking maturita?

[tired vigil]

Yeah

I graduated this may

[dense sand]

Without docs is crazy

[dense sand]

Congrats

Did you go math or english?

[tired vigil]

Our programming teacher exported some docs into a zip file but I'm pretty sure they were broken anyway 😭

[tired vigil]

I picked english

[dense sand]

Our programming teacher doesnt know what typescript is, so good for you

[dense sand]

Im still deciding, but math it is i guess

[tired vigil]

Our teacher used to do php before switching to teaching some obscure typescript web framework this year 😩

[tired vigil]

How come?

[dense sand]

Our teacher just plays some random ass 90ep playlist with php tutorial and thats it

[tired vigil]

😭

[dense sand]

I feel like math has less stuff to prepare for, even more if you don't have the cambridge cert

[tired vigil]

Oh yeah I forgot about that, I was one of the few people that didn't get the certificate in our class

[dense sand]

I don't have money

[tired vigil]

Mm that's reasonable, ig if youll be applying to college you could do matematika+ for easier acceptance

[dense sand]

Yea im thinking of picking both of them

Vut fit has this policy

[tired vigil]

[dense sand]

Also trying KSI on muni

[tired vigil]

Is that the brno college

[dense sand]

Yes

Are you going to uni?

[tired vigil]

Yeah, I got accepted to čvut fit through "fiks" which is like a programming competition sorta

[dense sand]

Oh yea ik its similar to ksi

[tired vigil]

Not really a competition, idk what to call it

[tired vigil]

Ohh I see

Good luck with that

[dense sand]

Thank you, good luck too with uni

[tired vigil]

For some reason I thought you were in the same year as me
I'm so fucking old

[supple whale]

do P2P snake with webrtc

[tired vigil]

My classmate actually did that for his project one year

[supple whale]

yeah its not too hard

like 1-2 day project

[tired vigil]

Idk if that's enough for a maturita project tho 😭

[shrewd canopy]

Multiplayer game idk

[supple whale]

webirc exists too

via wss

i use it for my global app chat

[tired vigil]

https://tenor.com/view/nicki-minaj-pen-on-fire-tank-gif-6773142334717323209

[dense sand]

https://x.com/jallen_dev/status/1959041181788131624?s=46

jallen (@jallen_dev)

in the next version of bun

you can run javascript

X · Aug 22, 2025, 11:53 PM

🔥

[crude star]

no way

[supple whale]

these memes are becoming rly good

i love this

[dense sand]

the best thing is that because its bun, its better than using eval!

[supple whale]

X

D

D

[supple whale]

https://x.com/thdxr/status/1958597222519775606

dax (@thdxr)

in the next version of bun

it can revive your lost loved ones

X · Aug 21, 2025, 6:29 PM

X D

these are good

https://x.com/jotvor/status/1958823211908366810

Jotvor (@jotvor)

in the next version of bun:

you can make your parents love you

X · Aug 22, 2025, 9:27 AM

LMAO

[hoary sluice]

i had to explain pki

in like 10 minutes

[valid jetty]

@hoary sluice did you see

[hoary sluice]

rosie

[valid jetty]

@hoary sluice @hoary sluice

@hoary sluice

[tired vigil]

oh same 😭 I had to explain some random database bullshit, but that was part of the oral exam

[hoary sluice]

you are ruining elle

[valid jetty]

do you love the code

[hoary sluice]

im on mobile

[valid jetty]

oh hold on

[nimble bone]

LOVE

[crude star]

unlike nodejs, the api is very simple ```js
import { SourceTextModule, createContext } from "node:vm"

const context = createContext(global.globalThis)

const mod = new SourceTextModule( console.log("Hello, world!"), { context })

await mod.link(async function linker() {
throw Error("Todo")
})

await mod.evaluate()

[dense sand]

cant you just throw it to worker thread

when executing on web i mean

[crude star]

https://nodejs.org/api/vm.html#class-vmmodule

[dense sand]

https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/JavaScript/Reference/Global_Objects/eval

[valid jetty]

the funnier part is that elle doesnt have a way to add the thing that __attribute__((constructor)) would do in c++ so i had to manually add it to the assembly lmfaoo

[crude star]

this is unsafe

[valid jetty]

because nodejs uses it to recognize what the entry point is in the shared library

[dense sand]

no

[dense sand]

ur just too scared to use it

[crude star]

in javascript 2 you need to use an unsafe block to call eval

[dense sand]

in javascript 2, you need to wrap your javascript code in bad {} to execute it

[shrewd canopy]

eval

[valid jetty]

the infamous requestAnimationFrame()

[ionic lake]

put on a condom then

[valid jetty]

surprised nobody called a C safety checker "condom" yet

[supple whale]

bold of you to assume that u can import a node module in bun without erroring or segfaulting

[crude star]

?

[supple whale]

function

const sum = new Function("a", "b", "return a + b")

console.log(sum(2, 6))

[crude star]

take an iq test

[lavish frigate]

can u add eval to elle

[valid jetty]

that would work like #run in jai

[deep mulch]

@valid jetty logic analyzer so cool

the first byte is correct idk whats going on with the ones after

i think i need to set it to high before each individual byte

i implemented NRZ instead of manchester somehow

[deep mulch]

https://www.vishay.com/docs/80071/dataform.pdf

[nimble bone]

@grok what does this do

[lavish frigate]

you reminded me of rust analyzer and now my day is ruined. thanks.

[deep mulch]

oops

i caused a stack overflow or something on the arduino

[shrewd canopy]

don't modify IDENTIFY payload

because you can get banned for it

yes it will

[supple whale]

asks for advice
gets advice
dismisses advice

.

[shrewd canopy]

this doesn't mean it won't get you banned

[deep mulch]

its close

should be 3 x "af"

[lavish frigate]

i was streaming some rust coding and i heard someone say "why?" and then leave when i wrote "panic::catch_unwind" as a joke

[supple whale]

this visualization fucks

makes me want to build smth like that ngl

[deep mulch]

who here knows how to python

im going to lose my mind

[shrewd canopy]

me...

[deep mulch]

how do i create a python 2 virtual env on arch so i can run this python 2.7 program https://github.com/EarToEarOak/RTLSDR-Scanner

virtualenv --python=$(which python2) venv
RuntimeError: failed to query /usr/bin/python2 with code 1 err: '  File "/usr/lib/python3.13/site-packages/virtualenv/discovery/py_info.py", line 26\n    return list(OrderedDict.fromkeys(["", *os.environ.get("PATHEXT", "").lower().split(os.pathsep)]))\n                                          ^\nSyntaxError: invalid syntax\n'

virtualenv -p python2 venv  
RuntimeError: failed to find interpreter for Builtin discover of python_spec='python2'

python2 -m rtlsdr_scanner
Import error: No module named matplotlib

Error importing libraries
Press [Return] to exit

i need matplotlib for python2

[shrewd canopy]

it seems you need to python2 -m pip install virtualenv==20.15.1 (last ver that supports 2.7)

[deep mulch]

arch doesnt like it when you do that

oh

well i cant even do that either ```
python2 -m pip install virtualenv==20.15.1
/usr/bin/python2: No module named pip

python is the bane of my existence

[jade stone]

@deep mulch learning that python sucks ass

[deep mulch]

i already knew

[shrewd canopy]

Me when i realize python 2.7 isnt supported in 2025

[deep mulch]

its easier to run a 40 year old MS-DOS program than a 7 year old python2.7 program

[shrewd canopy]

Because python stuff constantly gets updated and most of libs dont support 2.7 anymore

[deep mulch]

even the pyrtlsdr library is outdated

killing ymself

[jade stone]

oh, that's not what i mean

i just hate python in general

i don't like the syntax or just using it in general

[supple whale]

mood

[deep mulch]

yea im just gonna have to manually fix this

this sucks

[edgy thunder]

sorry, i dont know where else to post this but is it possible to make/code a non-official vencord plugin that makes discord support hdr when screensharing? i was trying out plugins that claimed they did but they just didnt work.

[jade stone]

#📖-info #🧩-plugin-development

[edgy thunder]

tyty

welp

i mean this is supposed to be a non-official thing that i can just manually implement from a github

[jade stone]

#🧩-plugin-development is for making plugins, official or not

(i can't guarantee that what you are doing is possible tho)

[deep mulch]

pay @jade stone to make it for you

[jade stone]

noooo

i wont do something like that

HDR screensharing is insane

i don't even know what hdr is

[edgy thunder]

discord by default makes my screen bright as hell when i stream in hdr when my monitor isnt a flashbang

[edgy thunder]

i pay the price on discord to have my monitor look good 🥀

[deep mulch]

finally

[edgy thunder]

huh

[deep mulch]

fixing this program

[edgy thunder]

ah, gl :)

[deep mulch]

thanks

[ornate quiver]

https://youtu.be/b2F-DItXtZs

[nimble bone]

vban 1 creep

[elder yarrow]

Done!

banned @tribal carbon

[nimble bone]

why can whitenames embed here

[calm wigeon]

never did. I think today I would see someone post a picture of a shit they took in the programming chat

[inland palm]

probably for programming questions

or tech support

[valid jetty]

what did they post?

[nimble bone]

their shit

quite literally

[valid jetty]

lmao

[deep mulch]

@valid jetty

@valid jetty ignores my cool stuff..

@valid jetty never telling you what i work on again

@valid jetty hates me

[pseudo sierra]

zootie patootie gives off needy bf vibes

[deep mulch]

maybe

[frosty skiff]

hawk tuah!

[deep mulch]

hawk tuah!

[valid jetty]

will look in the morning

need to sleep now

[deep mulch]

you are a specimen

nini rosie

[jade stone]

1984

[frosty obsidian]

programming channel be on topic challenge

[jade stone]

too bad there isn't some channel for random things that don't belong in any other channel 😔

[clear thunder]

c python c++ brainfuck etc etc

[dense sand]

Is this Radiohead reference

[vital plume]

RUST BLAZINGLY FAST MEMORY SAFE 🚀 🚀 🚀

[austere idol]

🚀 blazingly safe 🚀 and memory fast 🚀

[frosty skiff]

hawk tuah channe;

[deep mulch]

soon

[frosty skiff]

HOORAY!

[jade stone]

@nimble bone Grok Tuah! channel when

[spark tiger]

https://x.com/seatedro/status/1958962222157504749

ronin (@seatedro)

In the next version of bun,

bun will be sad when you use npm

X · Aug 22, 2025, 6:39 PM

[ionic lake]

good

[frosty skiff]

I made cat esp for my minecraft hack

[jade stone]

Doesn't node also have SQlite built in?

As well as typescript support and testing

The only thing bun has is a bundler which has never worked for me

[spark tiger]

from what i’ve seen built in typescript support in node is kinda meh isn’t it

[jade stone]

Add chams

[spark tiger]

https://tenor.com/view/firox-anime-esp-box-esp-csgo-gif-26853112

[frosty skiff]

okie !!

[crude star]

node sqlite sucks

its synchronous

lol

yeah it seems so

[nimble bone]

denoooooo

it’s perfection

[limpid mica]

very useful i use a lot

[supple whale]

holy shit Firefox is dogshit

it's been running the same benchmark for 40 minutes now

[supple whale]

IT FINISHED

HOLY

[valid jetty]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1360165991618838538/1408944141718786118/0824.mp4?ex=68ac3dbc&is=68aaec3c&hm=6b4c0172a932b1788798a9dd3b3293de61b9acc5088308dc9c19561a9f25bbf2&

[deep mulch]

@valid jetty

[shrewd canopy]

have you seen this

[deep mulch]

discord devs are insane

[unkempt ember]

Wh- Why would you write such function ?

[supple whale]

welp

something is afoot

oh, so firefox is not shit!!!!

its chrome's web crypto impl thats dogwater

im starting to question my methology, those "humps" are too similar

ah, log2 scale makes it weird

oh god and android is trubo funky

yeah, chrome's web crypto impl is simply dogshit, compression shows what it should be

sry for the low quality images, doing mass data processing and i cba doing proper exports

[supple whale]

chrome, firefox

yeah thats more what i;d expect

i wonder why chromium's web crypto impl is so fucked

[deep mulch]

numbers and graphs

[meager moat]

would it be possible to make a plugins that Anti's the Message logger like a Anti-Logger-Delete?

[jade stone]

no

[jade stone]

iirc that's only for editing

[dense sand]

"be freestanding"
no

[jade stone]

name checks out

[frosty skiff]

we need to put people down who rice windows it never looks good

[twin matrix]

what exactly do you not like?

im open to improvements

[frosty skiff]

I don't think it's an issue with your rice, I think it's mainly because the operating system itself isn't very customisable by default, and the weird hacks people do to get around it, end up looking trash most of the time

It's like people who patch explorer etc

yea

I just use the default windows look personally I don't think I'd spend time to rice my system for a lot of it to still be unriced and looking inconsistent

[urban isle]

LMAOFAKDADNJAIDHDAB

SO GOOD

[frosty skiff]

oh I wouldn't say that's ricing even lol

this is my desktop

[urban isle]

not even a fun interface </3

[frosty skiff]

yeah

they need to nuke the telegram mobile apps github

why are some classes like 9000 lines

probably has more lines then openjdk 😭

😭

bbro

https://github.com/DrKLO/Telegram/blob/master/TMessagesProj/src/main/java/org/telegram/messenger/MessagesStorage.java

17k line java class

[jade stone]

i think the largest file i've ever written (that i can remember off the top of my head) is 1600 lines 😭

[frosty skiff]

the largest file I've written was like 3000 I think

[twin matrix]

funny enough, thats the only thing i didnt patch
i changed everything except the explorer

[jade stone]

funnily enough, that's exactly what that 1600 line file was doing

(parsing the AST of 200mb of js files)

typescript, what else

that's not very nice 🙁

but seriously

there's not a better language for this

i need to: interface with vscode, parse javascript and typescript asts

iirc the ffi overhead for native parsers isn't worth the speedup for most cases

the typescript parser is really fast (it's the typechecking that it's really slow)

again, i'm not resolving types

just parsing the AST

<C-P> restart

[jade stone]

idk how good the benchmark is

but the article is here

https://medium.com/@hchan_nvim/benchmark-typescript-parsers-demystify-rust-tooling-performance-025ebfd391a3

[ionic lake]

that article is from 2023

[jade stone]

see my above comment

@solid gazelle are there any good ones

[ionic lake]

i dont think anyone wants to take up the pain of herpes decomp

[jade stone]

what i've found intresting recently is static analysis of discords modules

it's been fun to make LSP for them

[ionic lake]

why do you even want to decompile hermes

[jade stone]

rewrite in something saner than c#

[ionic lake]

what are you, the nsa?

[jade stone]

react-native im guessing

[ionic lake]

haxxor

read the raw bytes

wow

id actually say like facebook did a impressive job with hermes but damn

https://gitlab.kitware.com/cmake/cmake/-/merge_requests/11109

[solid gazelle]

rini and vap making one

in typescript

[tired vigil]

hiiiii

[solid gazelle]

love

yep I just can't remember rinis GitHub name

that'd be lame

https://github.com/rniii/rini-native

what's even the point of repos that do this lol is it for building hype because it always makes me expect nothing to not get disappointed

[jade stone]

I'm more take issue with the build system/lockin to visual studio/shitty experience on linux

I've never had a good experience with c# on linux

[supple whale]

are u surprised?

[jade stone]

No??

[supple whale]

thats like saying "I've never had a good experience with Swift on Android"

kinda like... yeah no shit?

[ornate quiver]

msbuild is just shit in general

[supple whale]

mood as fuck

i swear if i see another node-gyp error caused by msvc i'll do a backflip

[jade stone]

Yop

I've done insane things to convert projects using msvc to gcc/clang on windows

Too bad gcc doesn't have an arm64 build out yet for Windows

[supple whale]

meanwhile i've done insane things to get gcc working on windows ;-;

fuck you harfbuzz!

[twin matrix]

i have a 3:2 screen lmao

issues with using a surface

i just rice windows because i cant get linux working properly, and cant be bothered to figure out why

[jade stone]

Imagine that ricing Windows is easier than ricing Linux

I can't*

[twin matrix]

i cant say that, because ive never riced linux /shrug

the only form of linux i had properly work is wsl

and i barely touch my fedora wsl, its just there for ocassional tui testing

[supple whale]

its not hard.... its just fucking annoying

and some of it reverts with big updates

which are frequent on windows home/pro

not so much on LTSC

but for the most part you can replace most of the windows defaults, custom file explorer, custom terminal, custom volume controller, custom notifications [i cant remember what it was called], custom app launcher thingy, custom taskbar

win10/11 rice isnt hard, its just rarely worth the perf loss on an already..... poorly running system

that said, some of the linux rice is just as bad for perf

[jade stone]

Hop on flow launcher over power toys

[supple whale]

i need powertoys's plugins

i use them a lot

my beloved

[dense sand]

the only thing i used from power toys was color picker

[supple whale]

oh thats goated too

i use

screen ruler my beloved

[dense sand]

should i build dokploy/coolify but with k8s so its not a simple docker wrapper

im too bored

[supple whale]

want some work?

I could use help

XD

[dense sand]

with what

[supple whale]

emscripten threading

.

[dense sand]

[supple whale]

legit me rn

[dense sand]

sounds horrible

ur working on that for like past half a year, no?

[supple whale]

you dont know the start of it even

[supple whale]

not much

i started half a year ago... went "hm doesnt compile in first 3 tries, cba"

then i compiled it and it went "posix thread startup error"

[dense sand]

have you considered just forking it and editing the source?

[dense sand]

or something like that

[supple whale]

sure, but what

edit what

there's gigs of deps

i dont even know what doesnt work XD

[dense sand]

quite surprised tessie didnt mute you

[supple whale]

then how about fixing my nodejs setup for android

if emscripten CBT doesnt interest u

XD

[dense sand]

do you have something which sounds actually fixable

[supple whale]

everything thats actually fixable i can do myself within 15 seconds

so everything i have on my todo is highly non-trivial

XD

actually there's something in the emscripten build i have high skill issues with and that is multi-target builds

simply i rm -rf my entire linking step on each re-build

because i dont know how to properly re-build native

because one build is with SIMD and one is without

[dense sand]

[supple whale]

and if i didnt remove the linking then it just didnt work and idk how to fix it D:

thats probably fixable if you know how to makefile and how to native

my competence on those 2 is quite average tho

other than that..... I need to add proper threading to my libav wrapper for web

cuz i got pissed the fuck off that safari, firefox and android webview doesnt support mkvs, so my friend wrote a wrapper for libav in WASM, and we mux mkv into mp4's via W3C MediaSource real-time

surprised by how easy it was, and surprised that noone else has done it before

that said MSE fucking SUCKS to work with

[supple whale]

no takers?

[dense sand]

with all respect i would take something... more high level lol

[supple whale]

that's the easy stuff

no fun there

I agree, compiling shit is hell doe

[supple whale]

oh i know, implementing a DTS and xDTS audio decoder in chromium

and adding DVp5 support to chromium

that's something I'm willing to shill our proper cash for

[dense sand]

[supple whale]

well I already am, but so far none of the devs i hired had any luck

we already god DVp8, ac3, eac3, ac4, hdr etc

[crude star]

it's able to decompile all of discords bytecode already but some file segments arent parsed yet

it might stay that way since that's all that's necessary to patch

(and strings ofc)

I'm making a webui for it

yeah pretty much but I don't think regex will cut it

i mean what revanced does would work

[crude star]

i can dust up my discord server ig

[spark tiger]

how did u send ts screenshot 😭

[royal nymph]

"how did you send this shit screenshot"

[valid jetty]

</3 </3 </3 </3

[spark tiger]

sorry it’s my keyboard

[royal nymph]

why

[spark tiger]

new ios feature

🤗🤗🤗 https://x.com/alexxubyte/status/1958552243646701833

Alex Xu (@alexxubyte)

The Modern Software Stack

X · Aug 21, 2025, 3:30 PM

[dense sand]

As a twenty year old single male I think it's very hard to find a girl who's actually interested in free software. I've had girls jokingly ask to "Netflix and chill" but when I tell her that I don't use Netflix since Netflix requires proprietary software to stream content, they stop talking to me. And worse if they do stay they think I'm weird since I blocked Google IP's in my host file and we can't even watch youtube. I can't ever seem to get girls to come over to my place and I can't text them either. Once I get their numbers since I've added customs roms to my phone and refuse to use sms since it's a security concern I require all of my friends to download a free and open source messaging app and I share with them my public gpg key so that we can verify that our conversations are secure. None of my friends are willing to do this. And I can't use sites like tinder since it's not only proprietary software but a major privacy vulnerability. How come it is so hard to find a girl concerned about software freedom. I feel like I'm going to be a virgin forever.

[shrewd canopy]

Just use proprietary software, simple as that

[supple whale]

its simple

you do BDRip and chill

its trully that simple

bitches love bdrips

[ivory heath]

GOTH + redis/mysql even tho redis can be all you use (as it supports cold storage)

Bare minimum for your project with more library’s than users

[frosty skiff]

I added discord rpc to aprilhack

[spark tiger]

whar is aprilhack

[frosty skiff]

april hakc

april hack spotify module

[spark tiger]

cs(2)go cheat when

[frosty skiff]

aprilhack used to be a cs2 and fn cheat lol

and it had smth for tarkov but it was shit

[spark tiger]

written in rust i hope?

first blazing fast and memory safe cs2 cheat

[frosty skiff]

no!!

but im writing the loader for my mc client in rust

[shrewd canopy]

you should make an anticheat instead

[spark tiger]

at one time i wanted to get into csgo modding so much but i stopped after this 😭

ig yk what hlae is

[frosty skiff]

boring

mc anticheats r the most boring things ever

although i made a clientside ac for mc a while bac

[supple whale]

you just don't know how fun is it

detect cheats with resourcepacks

or do packet sniffing

[frosty skiff]

this is NOT fun 💔

especially when most of the stuff the average user will be using cannot accurately be detected

[supple whale]

a fuckload of cheats do shit like impossible angles, too frequent packet updates, impossible positions etc

[frosty skiff]

stuff like autoclicking & aim assist & similar

yea ppl writing those are stupid lol

[supple whale]

shit, listening to jump packets is enough to detect most movement cheats

[frosty skiff]

people think ac dev is just reversing a bezier curve

[supple whale]

this is 80% of MC cheats btw

[frosty skiff]

ppl arent stupid nowadays

[frosty skiff]

maybe free cheats

or stuff thats advertised as utility clients

[supple whale]

you'd be shook ngl

[frosty skiff]

stuff like meteor or wurst

a lot of other cheats tend to have more complex bypasses

stuff like augustus & similar

its like how for bypassing polar they just automated telly bridging lol

[supple whale]

I loved fucking with people using bats

you mount a bat on the players head

if they hit anything but the bat because of some sort of killaura

instaban

.

[frosty skiff]

the worst cheat ever may just do this

[supple whale]

all killauras do that

but yeah aim + clicker wont

[frosty skiff]

yea but you can always setup conditions its like

a lot of triggerbot checks did similar