🪅-progaming

[neon bear]

a lot of not being able to read this is probably because of the custom framework that I'm rockin'

[night glade]

like i tried getting started with it and it just never clicked

[neon bear]

and the colours

if i was using Leaf you'd probably be able to read it easier tbh

[neon bear]

valid

[night glade]

is that like a code formatter

leaf

[neon bear]

no, php framework

https://leafphp.dev

[night glade]

ahhhh

okay

for me leaf means some minecraft stuff and i assumed thats not what you meant

[neon bear]

ah

nah, tbh
you should only be using php without a framework while you build up your understanding of the language

[night glade]

im looking at some snippets it looks pretty cool

[neon bear]

once you understand the language, you're really just hurting yourself

[night glade]

reminds me of like ktor

[neon bear]

i don't use leaf, I use raw php or the custom framework i'm using now

(not mine)

[night glade]

okay thats cool

[valid jetty]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ff4fgQxPaO0

[neon bear]

if i use the same framework we use at work, i'm pretty much just always going to write the same style

so

[night glade]

"hi gang" hmm

thats the first thing i heard

[neon bear]

what is ktor

ah okay

[night glade]

its a kotlin http server

and client

[neon bear]

yeah i figured, this is why i recommended that framework, the syntax reminds me of other languages that PHP haters like

[night glade]

this actually kinda makes sense

but i'm wondering how it would be faster

because its really just putting the data down while json.parse has to actually parse a string

well maybe its faster because usually thats done using native code because its built into the framework

[valid jetty]

basically explained that json is context-free while js objects are not, and therefore due to context-free grammar being faster to parse, it is faster overall

[night glade]

oh okay

that makes sense

i really only scrubbed the video a bit so i didn't really see the explanation

[royal nymph]

so this is why discord uses JSON.parse for their massive i18n json

but holy is that counter intuitive

json is slow asf in many scenarios

[night glade]

i was thinking the same

[dense sand]

Scroll up a bit its in my scaffold

btw i like how ur profile matches the aro flag :D

NavHost(
    navController = navController,
    startDestination = Screen.Home,
    modifier = Modifier.padding(innerPadding),
    enterTransition = { slideInHorizontally { it } + fadeIn() },
    exitTransition = { slideOutHorizontally { -it } + fadeOut() },
    popEnterTransition = { slideInHorizontally { -it } + fadeIn() },
    popExitTransition = { slideOutHorizontally { it } + fadeOut() },
) {
    composable<Screen.Home> { HomeScreen() }
    composable<Screen.Search> {
        SearchScreen(
            navController = navController,
            viewModel = hiltViewModel<SearchViewModel>().apply {
                from = it.savedStateHandle.getLiveData<String>("from").value ?: ""
                to = it.savedStateHandle.getLiveData<String>("to").value ?: ""
            }
        )
    }
    composable<Screen.PlaceSearch>(
        enterTransition = { slideInVertically { it } + fadeIn() },
        exitTransition = { slideOutVertically { -it } + fadeOut() },
        popEnterTransition = { slideInVertically { -it } + fadeIn() },
        popExitTransition = { slideOutVertically { it } + fadeOut() }
    ) {
        PlaceSearchScreen(navController = navController, source = it.toRoute<Screen.PlaceSearch>().source)
    }
    // composable(Screen.Settings.route) { SettingsScreen() }
}

[ornate quiver]

that's funny

[frosty obsidian]

that's actually entirely coincidental

green was my favorite color long before i knew i was aro

[dense sand]

ooo

nice

[frosty obsidian]

seeing this makes me glad i went with Voyager for navigation

[dense sand]

lmao

ive been working with compose for like 3 days

people give me different views on what am i doing wrong, so im still pretty clueless

[frosty obsidian]

you are using what google recommends

i just prefer voyager because its a lot simpler

[jade stone]

FINALLY

https://youtu.be/PsXar3GD8YM?t=114&si=TbKhZlAdG5KtMI-H

[hoary sluice]

I personally prefer Rust

to cure depression

[fleet cedar]

Slop? In my devtools?

[solemn ravine]

im such a genius I forgot I had functionality to programmatically show the window without pressing the menubar

@woven mesa

[solemn ravine]

they don't make it super obvious what keys are what

[spark tiger]

ew tabs. does swift/xcode use tabs by default?

[winged mantle]

tabs are so good...

why do some people like an indentation which is easy to screw up

and also doesn't allow the viewer of the code to customise the width

and also takes more disk space

just use tabs for indentation and spaces for alignment if you want it...

[solemn ravine]

its what i use

[woven mesa]

so true

[solemn ravine]

not sure if they use it by default idk I immediately customize mine

[spark tiger]

oh i see

yeah i noticed ur xcode is hella customized

💔

not my screenshot

[woven mesa]

what faint said

ur xcode theme so good

[frail turtle]

that rainbow indent vscode extension highlights incorrect indenting based off the file settings, I like it better because it looks cleaner to me with the whitespace dots than the small tab symbols do

[solemn ravine]

I used to use maplemono for xcode but i cba to re-download the font

[spark tiger]

tbh i don’t really the always enabled uh what’s it called like visible characters for spaces, tabs, enters

[woven mesa]

oomfs

[winged mantle]

tbh idk why people use visible whitespace

[woven mesa]

i think i need that

[solemn ravine]

You dont like it?

you mean

[winged mantle]

highlighting when indentation is wrong is good but why do you need to see symbols for the correct indentation

[spark tiger]

i personally only have it enabled for github prs as it’s necessary to ensure nobody mixes tabs whitespaces

[frail turtle]

I think it's pretty that's about it

[spark tiger]

sorry :c

[frail turtle]

I want to enjoy looking at my code

[lucid trail]

on selection, right?

[woven mesa]

i might make an xcode plugin to randomise the indentation in the current working file

[solemn ravine]

I started using it in Xcode because I realize it's easier for me to determine what level code is at a quick glance

[winged mantle]

make for vscode...

i want to screw with people

[woven mesa]

not a web dev

[spark tiger]

yeah everyone has their own preferences don’t take my opinion to heart :3

[spark tiger]

i have it always on for gh pr diffs

very useful

[woven mesa]

[solemn ravine]

If its like hella nested it would be so obvious

[spark tiger]

do you guys also use refined github or is it just me :c

i think it’s really useful

[woven mesa]

i used to

[winged mantle]

/run

/**
 * Count the number of substrs in str.
 * To use new improved api use the new keyword.
 */
function count(str, substr, until) {
    const v2 = this.constructor === count;

    if (until != null && !v2)
        throw new Error("The until parameter is only available with new.");

    if (substr.length > str.length || substr.length === 0)
        return 0;

    if (str === substr)
        return 1;

    let matchLength = 0;
    let matches = 0;
    let exactMatches = 0;
    let exact = true;

    for (let i = 0; i < str.length; ++i) {
        if (i >= until)
            break;

        if (str[i].toLowerCase() === substr[matchLength].toLowerCase()) {
            if (str[i] !== substr[matchLength])
                exact = false;

            ++matchLength;

            if (matchLength >= substr.length) {
                ++matches;

                if (exact)
                    ++exactMatches;

                matchLength = 0;
                exact = true;
            }
        } else
            matchLength = 0;
    }

    if (v2)
        Object.assign(this, { matches, exactMatches });
    else
        return matches;
}

const lorem = "Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipiscing elit, sed do eiusmod tempor incididunt ut labore et dolore magna aliqua. Ut enim ad minim veniam, quis nostrud exercitation ullamco laboris nisi ut aliquip ex ea commodo consequat. Duis aute irure dolor in reprehenderit in voluptate velit esse cillum dolore eu fugiat nulla pariatur. Excepteur sint occaecat cupidatat non proident, sunt in culpa qui officia deserunt mollit anim id est laborum.";

console.log(count(lorem, "DO"));
console.log(new count("HALLO welt", "l"))
console.log(new count("HALLO welt", "l", 5))

[rugged berry]

Here is your js(18.15.0) output @winged mantle

6
count { matches: 3, exactMatches: 1 }
count { matches: 2, exactMatches: 0 }

[solemn ravine]

if you want people to only use your style of indentation in Xcode you can also make a editorconfig file

[lucid trail]

yeah its great

[winged mantle]

my idea works

use new keyword for api v2

[solemn ravine]

xcode listens to that but needs u to reopen the project if u make changes to it

[spark tiger]

nice. tho i usually just use whatever is set by default

[frail turtle]

refined github is very nice

[solemn ravine]

shake my head you said ew to whatever you thought was default

[spark tiger]

i’m not real that type of a person to like go thru all the settings and tweak everything to my need

[frail turtle]

I like it when extensions and mods blend so seamlessly you forget what the original was until it stops working

[winged mantle]

is there something that lets you write tabs in code suggestions

[solemn ravine]

whenever im using vscode I use spaces instead of tabs though

im evil rhat way

[spark tiger]

yeah i don’t like tabs but ig id just get used to it

even tho i probably wouldn’t like it i would not dare to change it lol

[spark tiger]

yop i also like how there is a safari extension

so good

can even use it on my phone

[winged mantle]

i still really want an extension to send cuystom emoji on github

[woven mesa]

@solemn ravine i rewrote someones webserver in swift from cpp

[lucid trail]

dont you hate how safari handles extensions

[spark tiger]

you can have in commit names this is more than enough

[solemn ravine]

reel

[spark tiger]

wdym

[frail turtle]

does ublock exist for safari

[lucid trail]

yes

[spark tiger]

no afaik

huh

[frail turtle]

hm

[woven mesa]

no iirc

[lucid trail]

it shows up as individual apps

[solemn ravine]

only thing I hate about safari extensions is their csp and signing requirements

[woven mesa]

that is how app extensions work

[solemn ravine]

otherwise they work okay

[frail turtle]

someone was asking me about ad blockers for apple and I couldn't help much bc I know nothing about apple other than you cant do much without breaking stuff or smth

[spark tiger]

oh iunno i don’t really mind as long as it does its thing

[woven mesa]

safari extensions arent special, they’re a .appex file in the main app

[woven mesa]

just like other extensions

[solemn ravine]

who need vencord safari

[woven mesa]

true

[spark tiger]

i just used adguard but i also heard wipr is good

[woven mesa]

need

[spark tiger]

omg send the tf link!!!

is it official though

or like a fork

[solemn ravine]

you know what if ublock lite is what safari gets then maybe the extensions aint too bad after all

[lucid trail]

its full

[woven mesa]

i cry

[solemn ravine]

worse than chrome so far though still

[woven mesa]

its ok ish

[lucid trail]

that makes sense ig, i mean as opposed to chrome/firefox extensions though

[woven mesa]

yeah but using a different app extension model would be wrong in this regard

apple wants to regulate extensions on the appstore too so it works out in their favour even more if web extensions are app extensions

[spark tiger]

i only have a few extensions, dont really feel the need to add something more

[solemn ravine]

to the fruit company they do everything with apps and extensions

[woven mesa]

yea

theres an app for that

[solemn ravine]

all i need

[lucid trail]

all great

[spark tiger]

i just remembered that since like ios15 or so you can now install custom fonts via app store. are the fonts also separate apps

[woven mesa]

i dont have any extensions

[solemn ravine]

I used to use refined github but their settings is a UX nightmare

[woven mesa]

safari is fine on its own

[lucid trail]

is mv2 really really dead yet

[solemn ravine]

you will hate me but you need an app for it yeah

good thing mac you dont need to

you can just install the font

[spark tiger]

yeah that makes sense since you can install fonts off internet

[lucid trail]

cant click install on a ttf file?

on ios

[frail turtle]

I have like 140 extensions firfox takes a long time to load sometimes haha

[spark tiger]

i think it’s only for fonts that are on app store

[solemn ravine]

WHY DO YOU HAVE SO MANY

[frail turtle]

because its fun

[spark tiger]

ur treating them like vencord plugins 😭

[solemn ravine]

I think theres a few apps that let you import fonts

but again needing another app lol

[woven mesa]

lets make a font book port to ios oomfies

[frail turtle]

they all do something for me

[woven mesa]

by oomfies i mean sammie

[spark tiger]

oh neat i didn’t know you can view system fonts like that

[frail turtle]

its like my 214 mod pack for risk of rain 2 or my 190 minecraft mod pack

[solemn ravine]

no thank yoouuuu llsc

[woven mesa]

lol

[frail turtle]

I just like features

[solemn ravine]

I have a few ideas for other apps but like theyre not really important

[spark tiger]

i love how this button doesn’t even redirect you to a fonts-only app store page it just redirects you to the main page 😭

[solemn ravine]

i dont really wanna work on them either since
they require an absurd amount of work

[woven mesa]

today i learnt how people make webservers from only sockets n stuff

[solemn ravine]

probably the most useless page they have

[spark tiger]

true

i wanna make some pretty lastfm macos app but i’m afraid someone might have already done it

[lucid trail]

theres a lot of those

[solemn ravine]

why is everything I wanna make going to be open source 👻

[woven mesa]

why is everything i make never published open source or even monetised close source

[solemn ravine]

deltatube oss when

[lucid trail]

you can charge everyone 5 dollars like a ton of other mac apps that do one very specific thing

[spark tiger]

idk we gotta ask YOU 🫵🫵🫵

[woven mesa]

meow

[lucid trail]

well what are these ideas

[solemn ravine]

@woven mesa I implemented many keybinds now I could just copy stuff without ever touching my mouse

[frail turtle]

don't say them he'll steal them and do it first

[spark tiger]

oh another thing i would like to try making is a custom telegram client for ios. i wonder how long it’d take build such heavy project tho (like compile time)

[lucid trail]

apparently theyre high effort so maybe not?

[dense sand]

navigating in jetpakc compose is such a bs

[frail turtle]

oh yeah

[solemn ravine]

free and open source cross-platform (desktop) ios sideloading app that doesn't require pre-installed apps like icloud or itunes (requires gui)

(this doesn't exist)

surprisingly

[lucid trail]

im surprised

[woven mesa]

so good

[solemn ravine]

by doesn't exist I mean something that doesn't have a requirement for itunes/icloud

[spark tiger]

hell yea no more having to install the old ass icloud & itunes versions 🙏

[solemn ravine]

(all of them do)

[woven mesa]

that would be hard

[solemn ravine]

but you know that would be too much work

for such a simple thing

would make me go insane probably

[woven mesa]

@dense sand nintendo switch homebrew swift xcode

[lucid trail]

icloud on windows isnt even bad now

[dense sand]

i want m3 😭

[spark tiger]

this is so over an ai is now #1 on h1 😭 https://x.com/xbow/status/1951040733936492915

XBOW (@Xbow)

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For the first time, our autonomous AI pentester tops the worldwide leaderboard.

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X · Jul 31, 2025, 10:02 PM

[solemn ravine]

material 3?

[dense sand]

yes

[spark tiger]

idk last time i tried it it still sucked lol

[woven mesa]

whar

[dense sand]

https://m3.material.io/

[spark tiger]

was trying to upload a 1gb file and it was taking forever

[woven mesa]

guh

[solemn ravine]

@woven mesa defaults write com.apple.dt.Xcode DVTTextShowInvisibleCharacters 1 && killall Xcode

[dense sand]

@frosty obsidian if i use voyage for navigating, can i pass arbitrary objects or do i have to shit with serialization

[woven mesa]

ty

[lucid trail]

i really hope google sticks with flat design

[dense sand]

M3 is so pretty

[solemn ravine]

[spark tiger]

this looks nice but for whatever reason i don’t really like it

[solemn ravine]

I actually hope google does too

[lucid trail]

me neither but its better than liquid glass

[spark tiger]

you can update a fucking monitor??? AND ITS 700MB??? https://x.com/inerati/status/1951082231419773357

liz (@inerati)

seven hundred and twenty nine megabytes

X · Aug 1, 2025, 12:47 AM

[dense sand]

Aplp

[solemn ravine]

@woven mesa ive gotten into a flow of using appkit/uikit for ui and only swiftui for settings

this may be my peak era

[solemn ravine]

you wanna know a fun fact

[spark tiger]

sure

[solemn ravine]

It comes with 64gb of storage

[spark tiger]

😭

[woven mesa]

the monitor runs a fork of a fork

its not a firmware

its like ugh

uhhh

[solemn ravine]

uuuuuh

[woven mesa]

idk whats it based on?

tvOS maybe?

[solemn ravine]

based on deez nuts

[woven mesa]

oh

[lucid trail]

oh yeah it has an A12 chip too right? or something similiar that they made a ton of

[solemn ravine]

monitor got some insane specs

but its only 60hz

[spark tiger]

so funny considering they already have 120hz in macbooks

[solemn ravine]

They care more about clarity and crispy displays more than refreshrates

[lucid trail]

i need more 218 ppi displays so bad

[spark tiger]

i care about both that’s why i’m choosing mbp over mba

[solemn ravine]

understandable cos no one in the professional field really needs it

[lucid trail]

i would take ppi over hz any day

[solemn ravine]

though I game on my mac so i would prefer some higher refresh

@lucid trail

[spark tiger]

but when both your phone and pc monitor are 120+ hz, you really don’t want a $2000 laptop to be 60hz :D

[lucid trail]

yippieeeee

[solemn ravine]

ive been spending too much time grinding coding

now to do more

the unfun part of any project is setting up the readme/workflow

[spark tiger]

what happened to ur other account btw

[woven mesa]

@solemn ravine @spark tiger im so happy my swifty wrappers are so good

imagine writing this in c

[solemn ravine]

still there

but i prefer using this one

[spark tiger]

ight

[spark tiger]

i’d rather not

[woven mesa]

yea

[lucid trail]

What happens if the guard is not there, does it enforce error handling like that?

[woven mesa]

yk how ppl say not to nest if statements

guard is meant to enforce you to not allow your program to continue further by returning or throwing

its quite good

[spark tiger]

kinda like assert?

[solemn ravine]

guard is like an advanced if/if let but if anything goes into guard ... else { // you must return here }

[woven mesa]

you can accomplish thhe same thing with if statements but the compiler will know your intent and ensure you return

[solemn ravine]

you cannot fall through

[woven mesa]

so its nice

what sammir said

sammie

sorry sammie

[solemn ravine]

also it allows you to not nest stuff which is kinda sweet

[woven mesa]

sammie do u like the swifty apis i made to make networking and json parsing easier

[solemn ravine]

no

[lucid trail]

that makes sense, but say you place let jsonData = ….parse() outside a guard , does swift tell you to use a guard/know its fallible?

[solemn ravine]

idk what that is

[woven mesa]

aw

[solemn ravine]

whats a swifty

[woven mesa]

the tools im using

they wrap curl and libjson c apis

[solemn ravine]

just based on your needs really

[woven mesa]

no

im doing that because my parse method can return nil

and i cannot continue parsing the data if it doesnt exist

so i dont want my program to continue

so i guard against nil condition

[spark tiger]

a random question in my head - i wonder if the E symbol just a Unicode symbol put in the song name by the app or there is a way to display icons similar to this one

[solemn ravine]

I use a guard here and I think its easy to understand, it retrieves data from an item and determines if its a valid png/jpeg, if its not it just won't do anything (empty view)

guard is not required (a normal if can achieve the same thing, but it exists for convenience)

[lucid trail]

probably an SF Symbol, e.square.fill

[solemn ravine]

🅴

[woven mesa]

e

[solemn ravine]

vchars

[elder yarrow]

​​ 🅴 ​ NEGATIVE SQUARED LATIN CAPITAL LETTER E

[spark tiger]

oh so it’s just a unicode symbol ic ty

[solemn ravine]

I forgot that this code is kinda obsolete now I somehow didnt update it with a better way of displaying the image

gotta find the code

@modern jungle you're right

[modern jungle]

fr?

damn

[valid jetty]

vchars 絵希

[elder yarrow]

​​ 絵 ​ ?
​ 希 ​ ?

[valid jetty]

?

[solemn ravine]

?

[modern jungle]

?

[solemn ravine]

oh my god look at this

beautiful

[spark tiger]

what’s cocoa i’ve been hearing this name so often

[solemn ravine]

ui framework for fruit company platforms

cocoa touch would be the one for mobile

(their names are just substituted with appkit/uikit though)

and they also serve as a backing for swiftui

[spark tiger]

so many different names for ui frameworks 😵‍💫

i only know swiftui

[solemn ravine]

ignore the names for now but just imagine that framework being the original, and swiftui is the successor but uses the original under the hood for a more easy to read syntax

ofc it could have more features that the original could offer but thats the nature

also both are maintained and updated regularly

https://tenor.com/view/sky-striker-raye-master-duel-yugioh-1girl-blonde-gif-15970066289156319915

[hoary sluice]

@valid jetty do english 450k 100 words and correct every mistake

by looking at the gray graph you can tell where i was typing and where i was correcting

[solemn ravine]

holllly os many options

[woven mesa]

@solemn ravine my code threw an error that server sent invalid response

i will have to diagnose after i eat

i cry

[winged mantle]

i think i will try zed now they have an ai toggle

i find a single toggle for ai very admirable

guh i became too reliant on vscode's typescript formatter... though isn't that part of typescript itself

ah you can just set formatter to language_server

why is no formatter as good as go fmt

I already got an error that nobody else has ever got according to google

[supple whale]

russian python

sir this is a typescript household

[tired vigil]

https://tenor.com/view/server-is-for-js-javascript-js-gif-22025927

[shrewd canopy]

server is for rust

[winged mantle]

i think it would be good to use https://handlebarsjs.com/ for bot message customisation?

i kinda reinvented the wheel

well no... I opted for a self-produced mediocre wheel without knowing of far more advanced wheels which were already perfectly compatible with my vehicle

[winged mantle]

then again i don't want vulnerabilities

handlebars has had several

[lavish frigate]

Use jsx

If you really need templating in your bot messages

[winged mantle]

it's for user configuration

[lavish frigate]

Hm…?

[winged mantle]

so you can do

ban_message = "You have been banned from {{server}} for {{duration}} :hammer:"

to customise the bot's ban message

[frosty obsidian]

you can but for voyager to save state the arguments you pass have to be parcelizable iirc

its just an android limitation

[ornate quiver]

https://lists.archlinux.org/archives/list/[e-mail]/thread/7EZTJXLIAQLARQNTMEW2HBWZYE626IFJ/

[SECURITY] firefox-patch-bin, librewolf-fix-bin and zen-browser-patched-bin AUR packages contain malware

[pseudo sierra]

old news

[winged mantle]

[SECURITY] firefox contains malware

[shrewd canopy]

♻️

[lavish frigate]

I personally believe that a bot should have a consistent design language which also covers responses but if you really want to add customizable responses there is no reason to bloat your project with a templating language when string replace does everything you’d need

[winged mantle]

it's pretty important

sometimes you want to add info on how to appeal

this is just for logs/dms which i think it's essential

[lavish frigate]

If you say so

[austere idol]

[SECURITY] google-chrome contains malware

[austere idol]

i clearly dont care https://codeberg.org/cat2623/dots/src/branch/master/scripts/.local/bin/same

[hoary sluice]

[SECURITY] use nixos

[ornate quiver]

https://spritesmods.com/?art=hddhack

scary bootkit

embedded linux can run on a hdd controller

[supple whale]

nixos package devs are so incompetent

https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/429692

[supple whale]

whoops wrong reply, meant this one

electron 32 and 35? pfff same thing

3 major versions means nothing

[hoary sluice]

womp womp

[dense sand]

@frosty obsidian when using voyager, what would be an optimal way of passing data back to the previous screeen(pop)

[frosty obsidian]

i actually don't know, its not something I've ever had to do

[dense sand]

okay cool, thanks

ive decided to migrate, as the passing data bs was getting real bad

[ornate quiver]

ah yes i encountered this
it's horrendous one sec

[dense sand]

i found something on gh related to it https://github.com/adrielcafe/voyager/pull/128#issuecomment-1763034415

i didnt get to the point in my rewrite when i have to actually try it yet though

[ornate quiver]

wait thats actually pretty nice

thanks

i had to persist a screenmodel for a screen in another screen
https://github.com/Aliucord/Manager/blob/28eb54a7b66bdadae33a31cf814e6e79f66a8970/app/src/main/kotlin/com/aliucord/manager/ui/screens/iconopts/IconOptionsScreen.kt#L57-L65

[pearl stag]

IconOptionsScreen.kt: Lines 57-65

// Retrieves a global model owned by the navigator
val navigator = LocalNavigator.currentOrThrow
val modelScreen by remember {
    derivedStateOf {
        navigator.items.lastOrNull { it is PatchOptionsScreen }
            ?: error("No PatchOptionsScreen in stack")
    }
}
val model = modelScreen.koinScreenModel<IconOptionsModel>() // Parameters are already injected in PatchOptionsScreen

[ornate quiver]

its so husk

[dense sand]

nice thanksies

i wonder if using reflection(for one side thing) will slow the whole thing down a lot

[deep mulch]

you should avoid reflection

[dense sand]

yea ik, but i want to provide some static data for each screen - such as if should display topbar, the topbar title, icon etc.

i could just make a shared companion interface but idk how good idea

[deep mulch]

use an enum

[jade stone]

@deep mulch what is the default access modifier in kotler

[deep mulch]

public

[frosty obsidian]

everything is public final by default

[supple whale]

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/iV3js9pd5IE

cinema

[dense sand]

True i forgot those exist

For some reason

[ornate quiver]

https://vxtwitter.com/AzakaSekai_/status/1951212884572381285

【2.0 DEBUT | 08.02】安坂星海 Azaka || VTuber (@AzakaSekai_)

Since people are asking, the monitor is a INBES VM-784 - a Japanese monitor literally designed to scroll Twitter with

QRT: AzakaSekai_
in case you're ever wondering what systemd boot output looks like on a very narrow monitor

vxTwitter / fixvx · Aug 1, 2025, 9:26 AM

https://vxtwitter.com/AzakaSekai_/status/1951016325121183834

【2.0 DEBUT | 08.02】安坂星海 Azaka || VTuber (@AzakaSekai_)

in case you're ever wondering what systemd boot output looks like on a very narrow monitor

vxTwitter / fixvx · Jul 31, 2025, 8:25 PM

@frosty obsidian @deep mulch I finally found a monitor to display logcat

[deep mulch]

insane

@ornate quiver @ornate quiver

rusher will make aliucord log token

[supple whale]

peak i need this shit

[jade stone]

does kotlin have multiple inheritance?

[ornate quiver]

no

limitation of the jvm

[jade stone]

yeah, that's what i thought

[supple whale]

smh imagine not being able to patch in your own multiple inheritance

[winged mantle]

why am i addicted to writing parsers

i'm already making a custom implementation of mustache

because i didn't like the existing ones

[jade stone]

insanity, i think

how is there no addAll with vararg T

guhhh kotlin so bad

where bitwise and

[winged mantle]

i think you just write and

[jade stone]

yeah

but it's dumb

also for the love of god numbers should cooerce to booleans in boolean contexts

i hate writing foo and bar != 0 instead of foo & bar

[deep mulch]

wdym

[jade stone]

inherit from more than one base class

[deep mulch]

you can implement multiple interfaces

[jade stone]

yeah

but that's not multiple inheritance

[deep mulch]

you can also delegate construction

which I don't fully understand

[solemn ravine]

@woven mesa HELPPPP

IDK SWIFT THINGS

SWIFT 6

[jade stone]

private fun ifNumpad(event: NativeKeyEvent, ifNumbadKey: Key, elseKey: Key) =
    if (event.keyLocation and NativeKeyEvent.KEY_LOCATION_NUMPAD != 0) ifNumbadKey else elseKey

least cursed kotlin function

[deep mulch]

delete

[solemn ravine]

ive been cursed to deal with new language versions

[woven mesa]

send the definition of the variable

or prepend nonisolated(unsafe) to it ig

[jade stone]

what do i do instead

[deep mulch]

use an extension function

[solemn ravine]

THANK YOU

[woven mesa]

yw

[frosty obsidian]

i don't want to become javascript

[jade stone]

tbh i was more thinking of c/c++

[frosty obsidian]

kotlin is just too high level for that kinda stuff

[jade stone]

😭

i'd consider javascript higher level than kotlin and it has it

and c/c++ are lower level and they have it

[frosty obsidian]

i mostly mean that its language features have to compile to several very different platforms

[jade stone]

wth is backquote

./run

console.log("\u0029")

[rugged berry]

Here is your js(18.15.0) output @jade stone

)

[frosty obsidian]

vchars „“”

[elder yarrow]

​​ „ ​ DOUBLE LOW-9 QUOTATION MARK
​ “ ​ LEFT DOUBLE QUOTATION MARK
​ ” ​ RIGHT DOUBLE QUOTATION MARK

[jade stone]

all i can think of is ```

but that's a grave

vchars `

[elder yarrow]

​​ ` ​ GRAVE ACCENT

[frosty obsidian]

vchars ‚‘’

[elder yarrow]

​​ ‚ ​ SINGLE LOW-9 QUOTATION MARK
​ ‘ ​ LEFT SINGLE QUOTATION MARK
​ ’ ​ RIGHT SINGLE QUOTATION MARK

[winged mantle]

actually didn't take that long to implement most of mustache templating

[solemn ravine]

oh nah

[winged mantle]

my reason for reimplementing is existing implementations are quirky 😭

[frosty obsidian]

it is that

[deep mulch]

NOP

sadan wants js string concatenation

[winged mantle]

leaky abstraction

[object Object]

[woven mesa]

oh

what happened

[jade stone]

thanks javafx

[frosty obsidian]

`

the tilde key

[jade stone]

guh

thats the grave

~

[deep mulch]

@jade stone

[jade stone]

is tilde

[frosty obsidian]

left of the number row

[jade stone]

but ` is probably what it is

[frosty obsidian]

` is called a backtick in common speak

most people don't call it a grave

[jade stone]

thanks wikipedia

The backtick ` is a typographical mark used mainly in computing. It is also known as backquote, grave, or grave accent.

[deep mulch]

common

I've never heard back tick mentioned in speech

or grave

[jade stone]

[deep mulch]

wingy

[frosty obsidian]

what do you hear people call it

[deep mulch]

I dont

[frosty obsidian]

:|

[deep mulch]

no one uses it@frosty obsidian @frosty obsidian

[frosty obsidian]

programmers do

its used for template strings in js

used in markdown for codeblocks

[deep mulch]

@frosty obsidian gloom

it's been 3 months

😭

[frosty obsidian]

kys

[deep mulch]

Wing taking 5 years

I'd finish the pr if I knew what what your remaining plans were

tbh I might just fork from the pr and finish it

[jade stone]

@deep mulch this library doesn't parse shift 😭

it just gives raw phisical key

[deep mulch]

it's a modifier

[jade stone]

yeah

but annoying to hand-code

[deep mulch]

it's not that bad

I did it in tau

[jade stone]

@deep mulch make keybind library for jvm

[deep mulch]

never

[jade stone]

the issue is keyboard layouts

fuck international keyboard layouts ig

[deep mulch]

yop

[jade stone]

also fuck wayland global hotkeys

i will just do some IPC + CLI

they can bind it themselves

less painful than dbus

maybe a websocket

[deep mulch]

you mean a unix socket right..

I hope

[jade stone]

No

There are no Unix sockets on windoes

[royal nymph]

so many saudis

but if I sort by total amount, KSA is only 7th

Saudis donate less on average

i should add sort by average donation

see which countries are the most generous

[deep mulch]

what does windows use

[shrewd canopy]

pipes

[royal nymph]

pope is greedy

[ornate quiver]

who the fuck is donating from the vatican

INSANE

[deep mulch]

the pope

[royal nymph]

turkish rusher alt gave me 15 bucks

[solemn ravine]

@woven mesa

[frosty obsidian]

2 americans

[deep mulch]

add IP address when

[royal nymph]

SOOON

[royal nymph]

it's fake america

[frosty obsidian]

ik

im not stupid

[royal nymph]

real america has 735 people

[jade stone]

@royal nymph can i give you -5$

[frosty obsidian]

vee thinks i can't make jokes

[jade stone]

how

is that someone you donated to?

[royal nymph]

nah

[jade stone]

insane

@deep mulch rate

[frosty obsidian]

vee made a bad commit so i forced him to refund my hard earned $5

[ornate quiver]

https://bobdahacker.com/blog/lovense-still-leaking-user-emails

[royal nymph]

github is funny

[jade stone]

insane

[royal nymph]

if you change tier to a higher tier, it first creates a fake charge with the negative of your previous payment

[royal nymph]

#🌺-regulars message

github sponsors api was vibecoded

[jade stone]

@deep mulch it gets worse

[solemn ravine]

@formal walrus

[ornate quiver]

oh wait one of the researchers here are in Hood Network

thats so funny

i recognized the miku tag

[woven mesa]

so goood

[jade stone]

i think the other person is the css clicker person

[pseudo sierra]

[solemn ravine]

@woven mesa not sure what else I should add

[jade stone]

what is the clear key?

[woven mesa]

add easter eggs

[pseudo sierra]

the only docs I can find is either unidentified or just missing so

the only thing I can think it could be is like the equivalent of pressing down on a dpad but realistically you can probably ignore it

[shrewd canopy]

should have just rebuilt the entire api or simply kill old apps

[jade stone]

@deep mulch does compose come with a logging lib?

[deep mulch]

nop youre too serious

[deep mulch]

better

[deep mulch]

no

thankfully not

you can use any logging lib

[pseudo sierra]

zoot logs everything to stdout

[jade stone]

evil

stderr + file

[deep mulch]

https://github.com/oshai/kotlin-logging @jade stone

[jade stone]

yop alreay found that and looks like i'm going to be using it

[deep mulch]

good

https://github.com/K-Huntun/Hog HOG

[jade stone]

is it just me or should this be does not not do not

[deep mulch]

LOL

[deep mulch]

I think doesn't

[jade stone]

@deep mulch send DTD for log4j2.xml

[deep mulch]

what's that

[solemn ravine]

why is readme dev so hard

[jade stone]

schema for xml

i think i found it

https://logging.apache.org/xml/ns/log4j-config-2.xsd

[deep mulch]

do you want my minkinator schema

[jade stone]

[deep mulch]

oh mine uses logback

idk if it's the same

https://github.com/zt64/Minkinator/blob/main/bot/src/main/resources/logback.xml

tbh I hate that it's configured like this

I wonder if there's a library that doesn't depend on another library for logging

[royal nymph]

americans when a chinese guy doesnt speak flawless english

[jade stone]

@deep mulch full autocomplete

[deep mulch]

@jade stone is chinese

[jade stone]

nop

[royal nymph]

oh different repo... so

americans when an israeli guy doesnt speak flawless english

[deep mulch]

mantika makes funny English grammar errors @royal nymph

[jade stone]

@deep mulch so many

[deep mulch]

how

[jade stone]

@deep mulch how do i do linux vs. windows deps in gradle

[deep mulch]

no difference on jvm

unless they have native library

[jade stone]

i dont think journald exists on windows

[deep mulch]

horror

why log to journald

[jade stone]

i like using it to view my logs

[deep mulch]

what library

[jade stone]

all in one handy place

[deep mulch]

you can just see logs in the ide

[jade stone]

guhhhh

[frosty obsidian]

i usually just make my own basic logger class

i don't really need fancy features like dumping to a file or anything

[nimble bone]

slimy sadan

[deep mulch]

slimy sadan

[solemn ravine]

@woven mesa I have to buy a dev acc

[jade stone]

is function parameter evaluation order defined behavior in java

[woven mesa]

whyy

[solemn ravine]

notorization

well I dont have to

but I want to

[jade stone]

guhhh loev
https://docs.oracle.com/javase/specs/jls/se7/html/jls-15.html#jls-15.7.4

[jade stone]

@deep mulch is this how compose works

[deep mulch]

i dont know if vararg is stable

[jade stone]

wdym by stable

[deep mulch]

yea thats not stable

compiler doesnt know if it should recompose

[jade stone]

it's unpacked

[deep mulch]

dont use Any

compiler basically has no idea if the data there is changing or not so it cant optimize

[jade stone]

why does DisposableEffect use it then

[deep mulch]

nonrestartable composable

your useKeybind function is gonna run every time anything changes

[jade stone]

then let's say i use some statful value in the handler

if the statful value changes, how will it know when to re-apply the keybind handler to update the statful value

[deep mulch]

idk, it just does

[jade stone]

[deep mulch]

primitives are stable

[frosty obsidian]

react naming scheme

[jade stone]

i come from react

my feeble mind can't handle compose

[deep mulch]

@jade stone oyu will learn my child

[jade stone]

@deep mulch make a youtube video showing react basics mirrored in compose

best way to learn

[deep mulch]

nop

i hate react

@jade stone

[jade stone]

hai

[deep mulch]

hai

[jade stone]

actually, what is the kotlin naming scheme for hooks

[frosty obsidian]

you can try doing something similar to the BackHandler function
https://cs.android.com/androidx/platform/frameworks/support/+/androidx-main:activity/activity-compose/src/main/java/androidx/activity/compose/BackHandler.kt

[jade stone]

50000 line file incoming once my wifi loads

[frosty obsidian]

we don't really have one

[jade stone]

useFoo it is

[frosty obsidian]

116

[deep mulch]

composable function should always be PascalCase

composable functions in a variable are camelCase

[jade stone]

PascalCase is for classes and types

[deep mulch]

yes

[jade stone]

camelCase is for functions and variables

[frosty obsidian]

its PascalCase is for composables that return unit

camelCase is for everything else

[deep mulch]

standard functions and variables

[frosty obsidian]

android studio will yell at him @deep mulch

[deep mulch]

yop

[jade stone]

good thing i'm not using android studio

[frosty obsidian]

idea does the same thing

[frosty obsidian]

mostly because we don't really have hooks

[deep mulch]

@jade stone https://developer.android.com/develop/ui/compose/api-guidelines do

[jade stone]

in a few years once my wifi loads

[deep mulch]

@jade stone@jade stone has dial up

[jade stone]

xfinity, same difference

the past few days it has taken like 1m to make a new connection

but streaming is fine

[deep mulch]

what if you go through a vpn

[frosty obsidian]

android docs will make gigabit internet look slow

[jade stone]

no, this is everything

[frosty obsidian]

both statements are true

[deep mulch]

@jade stone wanna see deranged packaging

[pseudo sierra]

you will get job at googl and make it blazingly fast

[deep mulch]

https://github.com/subframe7536/maple-font#arch-linux
expand the All packages section

[pseudo sierra]

maple mono <3

and yes having 7 different packages is insane

[deep mulch]

i dont wanna add archlinuxcn just to get sane packaging

@pseudo sierra you will pr

[jade stone]

@deep mulch i might have found the issue

[pseudo sierra]

it's on the aur

[deep mulch]

nop

have to add ArchLinuxCN repo

[pseudo sierra]

and again nix fixes this it's also in nixpkgs

[pseudo sierra]

it's under a scuffed name I forgor

[frosty obsidian]

move ttf to the end

[deep mulch]

thats the old package

i think

[jade stone]

i think the answer is to use comic-shanns-mono-nfm

[deep mulch]

wait

[frosty obsidian]

they list it in the readme still

under aur

[deep mulch]

no maplemono-ttf is just teh basic

the issue is they split every little feature up into 500 pacakges

instead of just providing multiple font

@frosty obsidian fix

[frosty obsidian]

nop

[jade stone]

@pseudo sierra WHO NAMED THIS SETTING

INSANE

tailscale optimized the dns to a local ip

in some update recently i think

and it no longer goes throught tailscale which bypasses firewall

but this option does not open the port for the dns

@nimble bone

[austere idol]

i will try it out when my i will get my hands on 4k screen

[deep mulch]

https://tenor.com/view/gato-joia-gif-27503164 @jade stone

[frosty obsidian]

sadan science

[austere idol]

can i optimize same even more?

HOW TO MAKE <at> NORMAL IN NF VARIATION????

[frosty obsidian]

you can use the fonts website to toggle a bunch of stuff

[austere idol]

I WAS RIGHT

"... In addition to identified 2 weeks ago malware packages firefox-patch-bin, librewolf-fix-bin and zen-browser-patched-bin, the google-chrome-stable package has been added to AUR, also containing changes that install malicious component providing remote system access." (sorry for bad translation)

[hoary sluice]

i didnt know u were joking about chrome

i thought everyone knew there was also a google chrome package

that was malicious

[jade stone]

[dense sand]

why

[deep mulch]

??

[austere idol]

opennet

[solemn ravine]

You just told more

[winged mantle]

hm with a shape aware template compiler you could likely generate very nice code and avoid many pitfalls

hello {{#person}}{{name}}{{/person}}

function anonymous(view) {
    return "Hello " + view["person"]["name"];
}

hello:
{{#people}}- {{name}}
{{/people}}

function anonymous(view) {
    return "hello:\n" + view["people"].map(item => "- " + item + "\n").join("");
}

[frosty obsidian]

voyager assigns each screen a key for lifecycle stuff (like screenmodels) and you can't have any duplicates in the navigation stack

[dense sand]

I followed the guide and wrapped the screen content in slidetransition and cant go to different screens

[frosty obsidian]

https://github.com/vendetta-mod/VendettaManager compare your code to this

[nimble bone]

wing uses bun

[winged mantle]

i guess i will make a more loose version of zod/valibot for this

const person = m.object({
    name: m.terminal,
});

const viewShape = m.object({
    person: person,
    people: m.array(person),
})

[nimble bone]

valiapp

[valid jetty]

@hoary sluice

[supple whale]

wolves can be tamed

[lavish frigate]

2

[frosty obsidian]

i could probably convince the wolves to eat the linux guy

[pseudo sierra]

I'd out talk the linux guy

[supple whale]

shit i didnt realise thats an option

i can yap

[stable escarp]

hey how would it be possible to get like when all this button shows up? like on what message types, from client code

[tired vigil]

Usually you'll have to find the component in the react devtools, and then go to the parent's source

then find where it's being rendered, and if there are any conditions (here it's canPublish/b)

since canPublish is passed as a prop, you'll have to go search for the parent component that passes it down
and you'll end up finding
K = t.type === ea.d4z.GUILD_ANNOUNCEMENT && null != p && p.features.has(ea.oNc.NEWS) && (A || O) && (0, m.Z)(n)
then it's just a matter of finding what each part of this condition is

[stable escarp]

ah nice thanks

[dense sand]

After 3 days of learning jetpack joyride framework i finally have a prototype

Im so glad i rewrote my navigator to voyager

[ornate quiver]

nicee

[dense sand]

istg im jumping out of window if our mobile app teacher tells us that we're using xmls

this so much better

yea sorry we're not doing apples here

too bad

[ornate quiver]

i eat apples

[jade stone]

how do i make it not go insane when i interact with it
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1335058334335893604/1401279361423900772/2025-08-02_15-02-29.mp4?ex=688fb29a&is=688e611a&hm=66a191153eb7d59c61ca20adf58051cfb70c369f0e1f0b33587ae43751dbbb19&

[dense sand]

@jade stone do you use slf4j

[jade stone]

yes

but that's not really relevant here tbh

[supple whale]

who wins, concatenating and slicing massive amts of binary data, or one loopy boi

[dense sand]

what are you even trying

[frail turtle]

what does the ms tags on the left mean

[jade stone]

resize window

also happens when it moves sometimes

[jade stone]

performance gutter decorations

[dense sand]

what frameowrk

[jade stone]

compose

[dense sand]

idk then

[jade stone]

@dense sand found the issue

compose really doens't like you resizing transparent winows

https://github.com/Vendicated/Vencord/pull/3402

[dense sand]

wow

[jade stone]

@deep mulch fix

[deep mulch]

how

make sure you're setting the underlying jframe window type

you just want something floating on top right

[jade stone]

i just set transparent=true in the construcotr

[tired vigil]

Cz*ch person detected

[dense sand]

theres quite a few

[tired vigil]

Who

I need to know

[supple whale]

CPU time in the measured profile

[dense sand]

@watchos_arm64_32
@voidless.
afaik

cant remember mroe

[tired vigil]

Are other languages even allowed here or is that just a privilege for german speakers

[dense sand]

there used to be an international channel

but its long gone

german is allowed ig because vee is german idk

[tired vigil]

😭

Istg last time I've seen a czech channel being a thing on a public english server it got removed within 12h cuz people kept posting illegal shit

[jade stone]

how do i get these on the left and right

[frosty obsidian]

put a spacer in the middle with the weight modifier set to 1

[jade stone]

i already got it by setting the horizontalAllignment on the row to spaceBewteen, but doing what you said gives a compiler error

e: file:///home/meyer/dev/kt/goodclipboardmanager/composeApp/src/main/kotlin/zip/sadan/gcm/ui/App.kt:44:29 None of the following candidates is applicable:
fun Modifier.width(intrinsicSize: IntrinsicSize): Modifier
fun Modifier.width(width: Dp): Modifier

[frosty obsidian]

where did you get width from

i said weight

[jade stone]

oh 😭

i can't read

i think i misread width given the context

[frosty obsidian]

both do work

[jade stone]

width just made sense in my head

[frosty obsidian]

your thing is actually better though i just forgot about it

[jade stone]

tysm

[dense sand]

im actually very surprised how fun the android development is

[spark tiger]

now try ios development

[dense sand]

never in the world

maybe with kmp

[spark tiger]

why 😔

[dense sand]

liquid ass

[spark tiger]

it’s not even out smh

[dense sand]

on the serious note, im just not fan of apple or xcode lol

[spark tiger]

fair

[spark tiger]

a.argv_to_git_url()?; smh

[ornate quiver]

rob pike knew exactly what he was doing and did awful design decisions on purpose

[spark tiger]

why husk then 😭

[ornate quiver]

i was husking at the reply tweet

[crude star]

rob pike ? are pikes that expensive

[spark tiger]

ohhh

[solemn ravine]

@young flicker @woven mesa @nimble bone @granite geyser https://github.com/khcrysalis/Copyboard

[dense sand]

what does this even mean

[spark tiger]

woah so good

(you didn’t ping me 😔)

[solemn ravine]

didnt know u were interested..

[spark tiger]

well now u do

[jade stone]

how do you load svgs in compose

i made a close icon but have no idea how to load it

i've tried vectorResource but it just loads an empty thing

[frosty obsidian]

you're supposed to use the vector drawable format

@jade stone

or create an ImageVector

[dense sand]

add here and then reference from R.drawable

[frosty obsidian]

idk if normal idea has that

[dense sand]

oh they arent using android studio

[frosty obsidian]

hes making a desktop app

[dense sand]

oh thats right

i forgor

[frosty obsidian]

idea does come with the android plugin so maybe its still there

[dense sand]

he doesnt have the R. crap

[frosty obsidian]

cmp has its own resources thing

basically the exact same as android resources but multiplatform

[dense sand]

why is the naming so confusing
compose = jetpack compose
cmp = compose mp
kmp = kotlin mp

[frosty obsidian]

whar

that seems straightforward to me

mp is just short for multiplatform

[dense sand]

yea

but like is kmp just extension of cmp?

[frosty obsidian]

cmp uses kmp

[frosty obsidian]

vector drawables are very old

its just androids version of an svg

[jade stone]

Yeah but still annoying

Tbh I might just convert to a rasterized version

[frosty obsidian]

you can convert svgs to vector drawables

maybe even in the ide

[jade stone]

Oh

[frosty obsidian]

right click in the res folder and select create vector asset

[jade stone]

I will try tomorrow

I am in bed now

Tysm

[frosty obsidian]

im not entirely sure if idea actually has that

android studio definitely does

oh i found out they do have a way to load raw svgs but its kinda weird

https://www.jetbrains.com/help/kotlin-multiplatform-dev/compose-multiplatform-resources-usage.html#convert-byte-arrays-into-images

[dense sand]

r u fucking kidding me, compose has all the m3 icons in itself and i downloaded them like an idiot from website

[jade stone]

Oh what

[frosty obsidian]

technically that library is deprecated

its still usable and will be forever but its not supported anymore

[dense sand]

i couldve just imported them from androidx.compose.material.icons.outlined. 😭

[frosty obsidian]

material-icons-extended my beloved

[dense sand]

i do have that library implementation(libs.androidx.material.icons.extended)

but like how did i not notice

[ornate quiver]

i recommend avoiding them

personally i really dislike icons defined in code

you cant preview them from the IDE, you cant modify them later, yadyada

i always get svgs and convert them into android vector drawables

[winged mantle]

just use png icons

[dense sand]

which matrix app should i use

[dense sand]

i clicked element

lol

idgaf

take my data

[austere idol]

they all are shit

some are just less bad

[hoary sluice]

@valid jetty we should put down eachother as references on job applications and say we worked at like enron or worldcom for 25 years

[deep mulch]

Husk

[jade stone]

what is a serialized java object

[fleet cedar]

Java serialization is cursed

[austere idol]

gASVOAAAAAAAAAB9lCiMBHR5cGWUjAVwbGFpbpSMB21lc3NhZ2WUjBdwaWNrbGUgaXMgdW5zYWZlLCBicm9zIZR1Lg==

[royal nymph]

you can convert java objects to bytes and store them to disk

then later load it again from the file

[deep mulch]

deserialize my bytes

[spark tiger]

wow that sounds really fun! can’t wait to use it the microsoft sharepoint way

[tired vigil]

Does it also serialize referenced objects?

wait everything in java is object

[royal nymph]

fields yes

but they need to be serialisable too

[tired vigil]

what about circular references

[valid jetty]

your computer says “NO you can’t do that 3:< fuck you..”

in that phrasing

try it i was shocked the first time

[crude star]

python's serialisation i think is based on java and it supports circular references

[valid jetty]

i am a circular reference

[frail turtle]

t1 = datetime.strptime(created_at, "%Y-%m-%d %H:%M:%S.%f")
t2 = datetime.strptime(decision_at, "%Y-%m-%d %H:%M:%S.%f")
total_minutes += (t2 - t1).total_seconds() / 60

avg_minutes = round(total_minutes / len(times)) if times else 0
avg_hours = round(avg_minutes / 60) if times else 0

can someone please help me with this? I am so tired and cannot fathom how to get it to return as a properly formatted time (3h 48m) for example, pretty sure this would just return like (3h 228m) if I did

return f"{avg_hours}h {avg_minutes}m

[lavish frigate]

from datetime import datetime
import math

t1 = datetime.strptime("2025-08-03 14:12:00.000000", "%Y-%m-%d %H:%M:%S.%f")
t2 = datetime.strptime("2025-08-03 18:00:00.000000", "%Y-%m-%d %H:%M:%S.%f")
total_minutes = math.floor((t2 - t1).total_seconds() / 60)

hours = math.floor(total_minutes / 60)
minutes = total_minutes % 60

print(hours, minutes) # 3h 48m

[frail turtle]

omg thank you so much !!!! I have been staring at this for like half an hour lol

[lavish frigate]

^^

[jade stone]

?remind 2 days https://canary.discord.com/channels/@me/1124544746262634606/1401745195292299325

[delicate grove]

Alright @jade stone, in 2 days: https://canary.discord.com/channels/@me/1124544746262634606/1401745195292299325

[nimble bone]

@jade stone saladd

[delicate grove]

Alright @young flicker, in 10 hours: make penis daemon

[dense sand]

penis demon

[runic sundial]

?remindme 7w amogus

[delicate grove]

Alright @runic sundial, in 1 month, 2 weeks and 4 days: amogus

[runic sundial]

[lavish frigate]

finally a good mrbeast video!

[austere idol]

what is aws

[lavish frigate]

oh sweet summer child

pray that you never find out

[royal nymph]

Amazon Web services

[hexed surge]

Is there any way to check the stream resolution?
I'm trying to increase it, but I don't have any tests to confirm it.

[royal nymph]

many such cases
https://fixupx.com/ImSh4yy/status/1952159426669908197

Shayan (@ImSh4yy)

This thread is a perfect example of people throwing solutions without understanding the actual problem.
︀︀
︀︀I looked at the code. This is a static pattern showcase website, fully static with minimal client-side reactivity.
︀︀
︀︀This doesn't need Next.js, SSR, or ISR. It doesn't need a $50/month VPS. It could (and should) be plain HTML/CSS/JS hosted on a static hosting service, or something like an S3 bucket behind a CDN for pennies.
︀︀
︀︀There are a number of massive (8292x5923) PNGs (~5-10MB/ each) for SEO screenshots that users never see. That's over 110MB of data that search engines are repeatedly downloading and you're getting billed for. These should be 1920x1080 max, WebP format.
︀︀
︀︀I've converted them to WebP and the result is a 94.4% reduction in file size. That's 17x less data transfer for something that users never see.
︀︀
︀︀Fix the root cause, not the symptom.

Quoting Megh (@meghtrix)
︀
Hey @vercel @rauch…

FixupX · Aug 4, 2025, 12:07 AM

[lavish frigate]

it is the solution cuz the guy successfully managed to scam vercel https://vxtwitter.com/meghtrix/status/1952107755587981488

Megh (@meghtrix)

↪️ Replying to @meghtrix

Update: We’re officially sponsored by @vercel now!

Huge thanks to the team for stepping in PatternCraft isn’t going anywhere 🚀

Appreciate all the love, support, and shares. You all made noise, and it worked.

Let’s keep building: http://patterncraft.fun

vxTwitter / fixvx · Aug 3, 2025, 8:42 PM

😭 😭 😭 😭

the web nowadays is such a big joke bro

[royal nymph]

it's not really scamming tbf lmao vercel itself is the scam

vercel's limits and pricing is a scam

[lavish frigate]

https://tenor.com/view/truth-nuke-truth-true-soyjak-wojak-gif-14828627546768133163

[royal nymph]

idk why anyone would use vercel

[lavish frigate]

yeah

especially stuff like this https://deltaprophecy.vercel.app/

you can do this in plain html, js and css

oh wait

damn it is in plain html, js and css im so used to vercel apps automatically being made in react

wondering why they dont just use like github pages then...

[austere idol]

how to make lxc container connect to internet?

[crude star]

https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Linux_Containers#Host_network_configuration

[ivory heath]

Shoulda use cloudinary for high quality thumbnail generation or something like it

[ivory heath]

The free tier and 100 free GB is insane tho

[hoary sluice]

last time the web wasnt a joke was when enron was still around

[hoary sluice]

you can just refuse to do anything related to aws or any devops and live happily

[hoary sluice]

yes