🪅-progaming

[meager bobcat]

help chrome is struggling with my 300,000 line console output

(don't ask)

[dense sand]

yea well the issue is that you use chrome

/jk

[meager bobcat]

am only using it for testing

i actually use zen

[lavish frigate]

you know for 300k lines

id expect firefox to set your entire house on fire

what the hell are you doing

[dense sand]

thats why its fire

[meager bobcat]

missed a ! before a console.log

[meager bobcat]

it's fine I only have a checks notes macbook without a fan

[lavish frigate]

macbook airs are truely black magic no fan and my m3 one still manages to keep cool most of the time and even when its hot i dont notice a performance decrease unless im doing some very heavy work

[spark tiger]

jesus fucking christ how the fuck are you supposed to review somewhat big PRs on this fuckass site

[meager bobcat]

in the terminal like a real linux user

(/s)

[spark tiger]

i'll just use rider- TF IS THAT

iaint even pressed anything it just starts doing it by itself

[dense sand]

me when ai slop

[meager bobcat]

@grok explain this PR

[spark tiger]

well at least it does not freeze when i open changed files

unlike on github dot com

[meager bobcat]

try github.dev

it's just a web vscode instance

[spark tiger]

eh

[meager bobcat]

I couldn't find a good way to get the first arg of a function ($1 is e,n,t,b or whatever) so this is my jank solution

[fleet cedar]

Often arguments[0] does the trick

[meager bobcat]

that's what I did

[fleet cedar]

No it looks like you defined a custom args

I'm talking about the arguments keyword, not a cheap knockoff

[meager bobcat]

oh wait that exists

certified discord moment™:
I log two things every time discord does a permission check
I left the app on idle for 15 minutes

278,899 logs

[lucid trail]

Ok that makes sense

I’ll do unsigned ints then

[lavish frigate]

im looking through old public presentations rn (cuz i have to make one myself) what the hell is this dude 😭 and here i thought SQL was the worst option

[wheat kernel]

ur just better pooks

[hoary sluice]

@valid jetty can zed do this

[valid jetty]

idk probably not

fuzzyfind is not useful in 99% of cases lol just search normally

unless youre searching files in which case sure

[fleet cedar]

That's the lsp's doing, not the editor, no?

[valid jetty]

hmm idk actually

[hoary sluice]

this is completion

im not searching

im typing code

[valid jetty]

youre searching for an autocomplete option that matches your fuzzyfind query

its still fuzzyfinding

[hoary sluice]

if your files are called TokenValue::String i think theres something wrong

[valid jetty]

lmao

[hoary sluice]

it is much easier to type tokenvaluestring than TokenValue::String()

[valid jetty]

idk i just got used to typing full syntax

[fleet cedar]

I just write String, lsp fills in the rest

[valid jetty]

that too yea

[valid jetty]

helps when i need to work in a new environment where i dont have all my shortcuts

i dont need to remember the syntax if i just always type the syntax

[hoary sluice]

idk what kinda lsp u have but i want it

[hoary sluice]

well im pretty sure im not gonna forget TokenValue::String()

[valid jetty]

lmao whatever

[hoary sluice]

what is this supposed to mean tho

you can still search normally even if its fuzzy

except its much easier to fuzzy find

[valid jetty]

yea but i meant like, fzf is more of a gimmick for cases like this

sorry im in my ragebaiting era today

[hoary sluice]

fzf snippets is not a gimmick

unless you love the shift key for some reason

(are you secretly microsoft???)

[valid jetty]

my shift key is caps lock ❤️

(my shift key is broken, i remapped caps lock to lshift)

it breaks various things lmaooooo

[hoary sluice]

my shift key is uhm uhh uhh

[valid jetty]

like for example i cant type " or + using lshift i have to use rshift

[hoary sluice]

i have to hold enter to type +

[valid jetty]

and i cant do shift + down arrow to go down a bit of a document in code editors i need to scroll lmaooo

[hoary sluice]

press , while holding enter

[valid jetty]

or well, use vim shortcuts

[hoary sluice]

hjkl???

[valid jetty]

no i mean half of the screen at once

to go down far quickly

its a macos thing i got accustomed to

well specifically to select

[hoary sluice]

i have arrow keys mapped to the home row on the number layer (when holding space (left thumb key on the right half))

[valid jetty]

cmd + arrows goes to start and end, opt + arrows goes back and forth 1 word

shift + arrows selects at the same time

[hoary sluice]

its kinda annoying to have to hold a layer toggle but if not id have to either use hjkl in weird spots cause not qwerty or map d to h, e to j, a to k, and i to l and remember that

[valid jetty]

cmd+shift+down arrow selects everything until the bottom of the file, this was super convenient before but my lshift key doesnt work anymore so i manually need to select the text with my mouse like a peasant or become fast enough at vim shortcuts that i dont rely on my mouse for that kind of thing anymore

[valid jetty]

are you insane

[hoary sluice]

ctrl d ctrl u??

[hoary sluice]

nop

[valid jetty]

if anyone wants to use your setup to code youre done for

[hoary sluice]

well yea thats not really a goal i have

[valid jetty]

control is in a really awkward position

[hoary sluice]

at my last internship nobody used vim

im not gonna stop myself from using vim just so someone can use my computer

[valid jetty]

[hoary sluice]

get a better keyboard

[valid jetty]

..?

this is my macbook keyboard

[hoary sluice]

some of them unironically used the home/pgup/pgdown/end keys on a 100% keyboard

[valid jetty]

i literally got used to doing everything without an external keyboard or mouse

[hoary sluice]

you dont have to use it

[valid jetty]

no i do

i dont want to bring bloat everywhere with me

i can just bring a single laptop and do everything i need

[hoary sluice]

your macbook keyboard doesnt magically disappear when you get a different keyboard

but you will end up preferring to carry the other stuff with you

[valid jetty]

lol obviously but i dont wanna have to carry anything else with me

[hoary sluice]

thats both my keyboard halves and my wallet in 1 pocket

you can make them wireless with a battery so its literally like pulling out your phone

[hoary sluice]

phone still fits and theres still more space

[valid jetty]

i dont think you quite get how optimized i made this setup

my macbook is on life support right now

[hoary sluice]

cant be as optimized as mine

and mine isnt even optimized

and definitely not even close as comfortable

[valid jetty]

i just put this light thin laptop in my backpack and take it out and do whatever and thats literally all i have to bring

ive spent years getting used to this laptop keyboard and the trackpad on apple devices has always been really good historically

it would be more of an inconvenience to bring an external keyboard and mouse than not to

i dont even need a laptop bag

it goes straight into my bag

[hoary sluice]

i generally dont carry my laptop anywhere more than twice a day so its not a problem but if i for example have to go to another room its not like my laptop keyboard just despawned

[valid jetty]

lmao i guess

i bring it with me to school and stuff

you can imagine how nice it is to be able to sit down, pull out just a single light laptop and start doing stuff instantly

[hoary sluice]

it would be much less of an inconvenience to carry two really small halves of a keyboard and be able to type comfortably, almost not moving your fingers at all

[valid jetty]

i mean thats only because you learnt that specialized layout

im alright with qwerty lol

[hoary sluice]

youve never tried fully learning a different layout so you cant know how it feels

[valid jetty]

idk lol but i understand why people bring external peripherals

on most laptops, the keyboard and trackpad are straight ass

on macbooks the keyboard is good enough and the trackpad is great, so i have no need to

[hoary sluice]

macbook keyboard might have nice switches but its a row staggered keyboard

and it most definitely does not have the best switches / whatever membrane it uses

[valid jetty]

yea no its not the nicest keyboard ive ever used

but imo the fact that the travel time is so low is a benefit

though i do agree, my thinkpad keyboard is better

but the trackpad doesnt compare

the thinkpad trackpad is absolutely horrible compared to the macbook one

when i had to use it i genuinely understood for the first time why people bring external mice

now the thinkpad just lives at my house and i connect via ssh with my macbook

[hoary sluice]

60s pb yay

i messed it up so bad

[valid jetty]

partly because the battery isnt good enough to bring it with me, partly because its so bulky and heavy

[hoary sluice]

look at second 33

[valid jetty]

what is this 😭

[hoary sluice]

dropped to 36 wpm

[valid jetty]

😭

[hoary sluice]

i misspelled know, typed another word and then for some reason went back to fix it

[hoary sluice]

youre concerned about switch travel time but not about finger travel time?

have you ever tried 10-20gf switches

me neither but theyre probably awesome

[valid jetty]

im not big on keyboards lol

[hoary sluice]

if you like low travel time

mine are 60gf and theyre more or less normal weight

[valid jetty]

the most ive tried are brown blue and red switches

i still have a brown switch 75% somewhere in my room

[hoary sluice]

colors dont say anything about switches if youre comparing different types

[valid jetty]

no i know

[hoary sluice]

youre not gonna get low travel time on mx switches

[valid jetty]

i just meant, i dont even know brands

[hoary sluice]

you need kailh choc or gateron low profile

[valid jetty]

i just know the difference between tactile and clicky and whatever

like the bare minimum

[hoary sluice]

these are super lightweight and completely silent https://shop.beekeeb.com/product/kailh-silent-switch-linear-nocturnal/

you would probably hear more on a laptop keyboard

[valid jetty]

interesting

[hoary sluice]

cause you seem to like low travel time

im prob gonna buy this soon https://www.zsa.io/voyager

or this https://keeb.io/products/iris-ce-keyboard

[valid jetty]

i mean yeah its kinda great

long travel time messes with my fingers and lowers my accuracy heavily

[hoary sluice]

theyre made by companies so they have all of the nice qol like a bottom plate/case, a carrying case, and rgb lights

[valid jetty]

i have to press way harder just to get a word accurately

and then i lose all my stamina

[hoary sluice]

which macbook model do u have

if you want purely low travel time (which i dont think u do) you want optical or hall effect switches

[valid jetty]

i have an m1 2020 air

[hoary sluice]

kailh choc red has lower travel time than urs

[valid jetty]

love

[hoary sluice]

so travel time is not an excuse

[valid jetty]

lol yeah obviously

my excuse is not travel time its that its an inconvenience to have an external keyboard with me at all

[hoary sluice]

how long does it take you to pull ur phone out of ur pocket

[valid jetty]

like 1 second but thats not the point

[hoary sluice]

thats how long itd take u to take out the keyboard

[valid jetty]

its not the time taken to pull it out

its the extra space taken up that doesnt need to be taken up

its the fact i need to charge it

[hoary sluice]

i can understand if you dont want to carry a charger, keyboard, mouse, mouse dongle, headset, headset dongle

[valid jetty]

its the fact i need to have extra space on my desk for a keyboard, and i sometimes wont have that space

[hoary sluice]

you need to charge it once every 6 months

[hoary sluice]

you can put it on top of your macbook keyboard

[valid jetty]

this too tho ^^

my bag is full asf with folders and stuff

it would be a nightmare to fit a keyboard in there

[hoary sluice]

you can handle the extra 2 iphone se's worth of space

[valid jetty]

lol ok ill look into it

[hoary sluice]

or at least try a different layout

at least like colemak-dh

pretty similar to qwerty but optimizes a lot of keys

esp home row

[valid jetty]

i do NOT have enough free time to learn a different layout

[hoary sluice]

you will see any permutation of "srtnei" on the homerow on almost every layout

[valid jetty]

qwerty is good enough

[hoary sluice]

i switched to it on my phone and learned it that way

youre barely any slower after like a day on ur phone and after a few weeks u can use it on a keyboard

[hoary sluice]

it is not even close to good enough

[valid jetty]

doesnt matter if its not ergonomic

good enough for it to be usable

DIE

NO EXPLODE

AI EVERYWHERE

[hoary sluice]

nop

[valid jetty]

the ai assistant text in the background is making that screenshot so much more infuriating

let the ai stuff die holy shit

ai in my printer next

ai in my toaster

ai in my microwave

ai in my makeup

ai in my jewellery

java but dumber

[hoary sluice]

@valid jetty try polyglot mode on monkeytype

"ir elle" REFERENCE???

[valid jetty]

what kind of homework is this

[hoary sluice]

its annoying cause it doesnt count french chars

[valid jetty]

thats not how dynamic arrays work

[valid jetty]

wtf is this

[hoary sluice]

try it

on 15s

its easier for me cause half the words are german

ipv6 mode

probably worse for me cause numbers are on a diff layer

[valid jetty]

how tf do i type accents

[hoary sluice]

you dont

[valid jetty]

[lucid trail]

I’ve bought a corne choc with 35g pro reds, very excited

I’m probably not gonna bring it with me anywhere though

Especially since macbook keyboards are so good

[hoary sluice]

nice

[valid jetty]

????

[hoary sluice]

is corne wireless idr

[hoary sluice]

you got a really hard one

[lucid trail]

what’s idr

[valid jetty]

i dont remember

[lucid trail]

I did get a wireless one

[hoary sluice]

now do polyglot on read ahead hard

[lucid trail]

depends on the controller you get

[valid jetty]

nty

ok ill try it

how the fuck

[hoary sluice]

i am not doing this with more than 10 words

did yuo get corne v2 or v4

with oled or with 2 extra keys?

[lucid trail]

cornix, apparently

I hope it actually ships 😭

[hoary sluice]

oh it has more keys than corne

[lucid trail]

Yes it’s got the extra 3 on the bottom left

[hoary sluice]

i should've probably gotten a corne v2

[lucid trail]

I’m used to pressing space with my index finger so i might be cooked

[hoary sluice]

whatever im buying a prebuilt voyager / iris ce soon anyway

[hoary sluice]

nah ull be fine

[lucid trail]

Are you tenting it rn

[hoary sluice]

nah

i have a ferris sweep and it has builtin holes for the splitkb tenting puck but i never bought them

[lucid trail]

where are you getting polyglot on your test type

[hoary sluice]

press esc and type polyglot

[lucid trail]

I'm very much used to english sequences

[whole cove]

you guys know what's worse than YAML templating/pseudo-scripting?

rainmeter skins

[solemn ravine]

@woven mesa this is diabolical

[lucid trail]

oh man codegen is getting really complicated, really fast

I have to pass so much stuff everywhere

[plush hollow]

why is the thumb key a picture of an old Chinese coin

[valid jetty]

really good sign it’s time to refactor

[woven mesa]

whar that

[hoary sluice]

@valid jetty why is there such a bandwagon about hating duolingo for going ai first

duolingo is literally the only app that has the right to use llms extensively

[valid jetty]

no they don’t

[hoary sluice]

the ceo said teachers should be replaced by ai and i completely agree

[valid jetty]

i would rather have less content made by professional translators than more content made by slop

[hoary sluice]

teaching language can be done much better by llms than by humans, especially in an app

[valid jetty]

ever since this ai thing in duolingo every lesson has become so soulless it’s kinda funny

[hoary sluice]

please find me a single professional translator for kazakh

[valid jetty]

i wholeheartedly disagree

[valid jetty]

well for less popular languages sure

[hoary sluice]

if they go ai first they can finally support smaller languages

[valid jetty]

but for example the audio stories are literally the most boring thing you’ve ever heard in your life

[hoary sluice]

theres no way for them to properly support anythin other than english, spanish, french, italian, and yappanese

[valid jetty]

like they use the words from the chapter! but that’s about it

[hoary sluice]

none of the languages im learning even have that as a feature

[valid jetty]

well then that’s a skill issue i guess lol

you can have your opinions but i have noticed significant quality loss since all of this ai first shit came to duolingo

[hoary sluice]

wanting to learn non mainstream languages is a skill issue 😦

[hoary sluice]

ive noticed a lot of improvement

on polish, romanian, and arabic

[valid jetty]

idk it lost all its soul imo

[fleet cedar]

Typical result of ai slop

[hoary sluice]

i would pay for max if they added kazakh

(i already have it cause of hyroms apk but that doesn't count)

[dense sand]

@supple whale knowing you have knowledge in kubernetes, i want to tinker with it a bit and maybe setup a cluster for a scalable deployement server ~ some sort of schema for school deployements. my current plan is following:

• Teams for the users - would be represented as namespaces
• Deployement as a project
• Pods for the individual project deploys
  what i dont know how would i design is the user system, should this be something backend logic is handling or should i be using something like RBAC?

the problem i see with RBAC is that each indivudual entry requires some sort of config which can be a bit annoying

[supple whale]

the only reason is ever do anything k8s is if I was paid thousands

fuck that I ain't touching it

[dense sand]

💀💀💀 okay

[supple whale]

i simply dont know much about it, i didnt fuck with permissions that much, everything we had was giga custom, and a lot of it was handwritten in go, because k8s didnt support a lot of the things we needed

[nimble bone]

just Grok it @dense sand

[supple whale]

TLDR we had permissions based on your vpn connection, using some custom encryption schema

because german privacy laws

and based on your permissions from the vpn tunnel aka priv/pub key shit, you got perms in k8s

so realistically your vpn connection was ur auth

[spark tiger]

fml i just did my school math exam and i did everything except the last geometry one 😭💔

[supple whale]

other than that, we didnt do scaling, because it didnt matter, we had <100k users, so we never even hit 10% cpu on our servers, except for when internal staff which sometimes ran AI on it

[dense sand]

i just wanted to try out k8s to somewhat organize potentially a lot of containers into some hierarchy

[supple whale]

oh yeah thats aint k8s

k8s is just for mass pumping images you have no clue if are secure, with automatic network configs, scaling and recovery

[dense sand]

Yea the thing is that the containers there would be potentially my schools students

[supple whale]

like if you're just running it on a server with a single network port, for like 1k users

just stick to docker

[supple whale]

you wont have those kind of resources

but you do you

no way in fuck your school will give u a server powerful enough to run 300 concurrent containers

[dense sand]

Well our sysadmin basically denied the use of docker even now

[supple whale]

mmm

when he learns k8s is just docker with permissions

.

[dense sand]

He said some shit about persistent storage as counter arguments

[supple whale]

...simply mounted volumes

???

[dense sand]

Yea

[supple whale]

.

[dense sand]

Like it didnt make a bunch of sense

[supple whale]

yeah i remember my sys admin in highschool didnt let me open a website on our school wifi, because i didnt have the legal permissions

TLDR we had a school radio played during breaks, and i wanted to make a website where u could submit and vote on the next song that will be played

[dense sand]

Our schools has some weird ass system for deploying apps, meaning we cant use port forwarding to sub domains

I want to try to get permission to get docker working during summer

[supple whale]

but he said no, so it stayed on spotify shuffle...

[dense sand]

Like give us docker cmon, i dont want to use xampp anymore

[supple whale]

😂

yeah i was hired by my school uni to build a languagae learning app for ukraine students

built it in 2 days

was ghosted for 4 months

then they said "too late" and never paid me

so i'm never doing anything for schools ever again

i tried like 3 times, never again

[dense sand]

Did you have a contract

[supple whale]

i'd have to wait a year for that shit lol

its a uni

[dense sand]

Well

Better put some backdoor later no

[supple whale]

and aint no way i'm going to sue the uni that i'm actively going to

just so i can get kicked out lmao

[supple whale]

they never even looked at it

so its gg

[solid gazelle]

ok so

if I have a nodejs script

I use a library that writes something to a file but let's say my environment doesn't let me write or read anything from the fs

is there a way to trick it / have a virtual fs on memory so it can write there and not to an actual fs

[nimble bone]

monkeypatch the fs.write* methods i guess?

[solid gazelle]

thought of that but what if the library uses a native module

[supple whale]

then you mount the script in a vm

you can't patch system DLLs like that

[spark tiger]

was trying to see how i can debug ios webapp on windows then found the creator of inspect.dev suggesting it. decided to check the pricing and im sorry fifteen fucking minutes a day??????

ig ill just use something like that then https://github.com/RemoteDebug/remotedebug-ios-webkit-adapter

that mf just abandoned the open source app and made it a paid proprietary app

[shrewd canopy]

Abandon opensource app and make paid proprietary app🤡

[hoary sluice]

@placid cape matura done!

[dense sand]

congrats

!!

is there any types for html elements? like react ones but without an actual react

[jade stone]

In just plain TS?

[dense sand]

Yes

[jade stone]

AFAIK HTMLDivElement

They are all named like thar

[dense sand]

yes

[supple whale]

yeah TSLIB DOM

{
    "compilerOptions": {
        "lib": [
            "esnext",
            "DOM",
            "DOM.Iterable"
        ]
    }
}

in tsconfig

they.... arent perfect

dont support a lot of newer shit

but they get the job done for the most part

[valid jetty]

@hoary sluice zozin stream

well hes taking a break right now

but it was

[ornate quiver]

https://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/1l1ui0u/gauntlet_is_a_programming_language_that_fixes_gos/

we got typescript for golang

[shrewd canopy]

What if you wanted to view the post
But reddit said Internal Server Error

Oh

Gauntlet so good

I had to just reload page (reddit is known to give 500 when id is invalid for me)

[lavish frigate]

this is kinda disgusting like feels like the creator fundamentally disagrees with the design principles of go (and then why not use another lang...)

this is funny

for let is kinda weird

[timid sluice]

at this point change it to fn to save another character. even better what about just making it f!!

[lavish frigate]

and this should be changed to a warning not removed entirely

[lavish frigate]

and if they cared so much about typing stuff out they wouldve used stuff like pub instead of export

or like what the hell is this

[ionic lake]

Go func yourself

[lavish frigate]

ive never understood why people want piping in their programming languages

also love this js proposal would instantly make js 100000x worse

[fleet cedar]

Just use let my fellow human being

[lavish frigate]

like bro you can already do this just without fucking pipes 😭

const tokenize = (v) => {
  return v.filter(v => v.indexOf("=") > -1).map(v => v.split("="));
}

console.log(tokenize(readLines(test_data)))

[hoary sluice]

its literally awesome

[lavish frigate]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1029315212521771020/1370052911593423000/attachment.gif

[hoary sluice]

omg im just not allowed to talk??

this is the coldest take ever and its ragebait

pipes make it a lot more readable and reduce the amount of parens

[lavish frigate]

its not more readable when my brain actively has to follow up the trail of "^" to see what actually happens + the example here ^ perfectly showed off that they love using arrows < > ^ v and there is so much visual noise that i want to kill myself

[ionic lake]

they used hack pipes which are the worst

there was an much more understandable f# version

[lavish frigate]

doesnt work with you cuz i know you are rolling in your chair rn lil bro

[lavish frigate]

im looking at f# code and it looks the same (apart from the f# syntax of course)

[hoary sluice]

proper pipes would make this js const tokenize = v indexOf "=" > -1 $ v filter $ map (v split "=") or something similar, depending on how the parser is implemented

[lavish frigate]

that looks ugly as shit

[hoary sluice]

its probably more readable to pass the argument of filter directly tho

[hoary sluice]

im not your lil bro

[lavish frigate]

you are the lil bro of this entire channel

[hoary sluice]

this looks ugly as shit

its an opinion

its not ragebait and you dont need to attack me for it

[lavish frigate]

my problem with this is i have trouble differentiating what is what i had to scroll up to check if for example "=" is a function argument or whatever + without parenthesis its not clear what exactly gets passed as an argument and im pretty sure you messed up yourself with that implementation unless the indexOf "=" > -1 is also passed to the next function which again is not clear at all

[lavish frigate]

this is ugly sure but at least everyone has absolutely 0 trouble understanding what is going on exactly

what gets passed where and when and where the result goes

[hoary sluice]

depends if the parser can differentiate it, id like to read something like

filter v (indexOf "=" > -1) $ map (split "=")

if you omit the parens after the map you can still parse the part after the $ --- if you parse an entire expression as the argument to map once you see that map only takes 1 more arg (the first arg comes from the pipe, the 2nd arg is whats after map, a good parser will figure that out)

another option, if you like infix functions more:

v filter (indexOf "=" > -1) $ map (split "=")

[ornate quiver]

yeah it doesn't really have a reason to exist when other langs exist
perhaps to interface with go modules when the constraints are fixed
I hate golang anyways so it's great

[hoary sluice]

since js isnt functional you have to add . and ()

v.filter(indexOf("=") > -1) $ map(split("="))

[lavish frigate]

actually so real i agree with you on that id love for it to be a superset though instead of... whatever it is now

[hoary sluice]

he said he changed func to fun to make it different

which is stupid

[lavish frigate]

how would the interpreter differentiate between
you want to pass indexOf("=") > -1 as a pipe to filter and
you want to pass the result of indexOf("=") compared with > -1 to the first argument of filter

no wait

see

im getting confused by this syntax immediately

[hoary sluice]

there are parens because of this

where is this ambiguous

indexOf("=") > -1 is fully inside parens

[lavish frigate]

no again im right

[hoary sluice]

you want to filter by (indexOf("=") > -1) clearly

i dont get what the problem is

[lavish frigate]

sure but you can very much see indexOf("=") > -1 as an expression that needs to be evaluated and then passed into filter because both are functions

[hoary sluice]

then you can add ( v => but that has nothing to do with pipes

the point is that if you have many chained .map .filter .whatever calls then youll end up in ((((()((())))))) hell in the current system

this is why .then() for promises was invented

its basically a pipe

[fleet cedar]

.then() was invented because it is very useful to be able to chain promises

A while later async/await was added

Non-async calls can already be chained without such fuss

[hoary sluice]

if your filter or map argument is very long it gets unreadable, take a look at my aoc code for proof

[lavish frigate]

if only there was a solution for that!

like... putting the function outside of the argument and assigning it to a variable..

[hoary sluice]

https://github.com/eagely/adventofcode/blob/main/src/main/kotlin/solutions/y2024/Day21.kt

[fleet cedar]

And how exactly would pipes help with that

[hoary sluice]

for an imperative language that is the better choice either way, but then again, 20 chained filter map calls would require 20 new variables or ugly () nesting

[fleet cedar]

You can write noisy code with any sugar

[worldly sigil]

are there sugar-free language options available

[lavish frigate]

because apparently the () is the issue and not the code inside of them... or the clarity of anything surrounding them

[fleet cedar]

Yes but they contain vitamin C

[hoary sluice]

use pipes instead of nesting, put each step on a separate line, and the code i sent suddenly becomes readable

[lavish frigate]

use method chaining instead of nesting, put each call on a separate line, and the code suddently becomes readable

[hoary sluice]

its already chained

but separating onto multiple lines isnt an option because its nested too deep

it is an option but wont help

[lavish frigate]

idk bro maybe if you didnt in-line your if statements or whatever the hell this is

[ornate quiver]

thats so dumb
i get trying to make it more like another language (kotlin) but changing it just for the sake of it is dumb

[lavish frigate]

the compiler should come out of your screen and shoot you if you put an entire if statement into a single line

[fleet cedar]

Look how readable it gets if you put in some newlines ```kt
val paths = ((if (dx < 0) "^".repeat(-dx) else "v".repeat(dx)) + if (dy < 0) "<".repeat(-dy) else ">".repeat(dy))
.permutations()
.filter { path ->
path.asSequence()
.runningFold(pos) { pos, dir -> pos + Direction.of(dir) }
.all { it in keypad.values }
}
.map { "$it@" }
.ifEmpty { listOf("@") }

[hoary sluice]

the first 4 lines is where a pipe would make it better

[ionic lake]

pipe operate on my ass

[hoary sluice]

its not like anyones forcing you to use pipes but theyre certainly more readable as long as theyre not purposefully used improperly

[fleet cedar]

Pipes are a new complicated syntax to learn which people can use instead of writing sensible code

[lavish frigate]

your entire argument ^ here hinges on the fact that you purposefully formatted your code in a shit way dont give us the "more readable as long as theyre not purposefully used improperly"

[hoary sluice]

look at 98's snippet

everything past line 5 is readable

line 5 itsell could use a pipe

youd turn a layer of nesting into a sequenced operation

same thing as turning nested promises into a .then chain

at the end of the day i dont really care what js does, ill be adding pipes to my language and happily using them

[fleet cedar]

Which line 5, path.asSequence()?

[hoary sluice]

im on mobile

remove the parens around the first if, put a pipe before .permutations

[fleet cedar]

Oh you mean ```kt
val vert = if (dx < 0) "^".repeat(-dx) else "v".repeat(dx)
val hori = if (dy < 0) "<".repeat(-dy) else ">".repeat(dy)
val paths = (vert + hori)
.permutations()

Yeah that's much better

[hoary sluice]

i dont like that

[lavish frigate]

i tried to write something like that but i realised i do not know kt syntax at all

[granite geyser]

love

[hoary sluice]

    (if (dx < 0) "^".repeat(-dx) else "v".repeat(dx)) + if (dy < 0) "<".repeat(-dy) else ">".repeat(dy)
        $.permutations()

this reads to me as "compute these two if expressions, then take the entire lhs of the $ and apply permutations to it"

[lavish frigate]

...

[hoary sluice]

which i would love for kotlin aoc

[fleet cedar]

It reads to me like "I copypasted random codes until it compiled"

[lavish frigate]

it reads to me as you just complained about the entire line, added a single symbol to the next line and now its apparently perfect for you

[hoary sluice]

the point is to remove a layer of nesting and to allow me to keep writing more chained functions instead of having to manually go back and find the right place to put parentheses

whatever idc dont use pipes if u dont want to im going to sleep now

[lavish frigate]

before vs after

[hoary sluice]

what does this prove

you didnt read what i said

[lavish frigate]

im trying to ask you what the hell are you saying 😭

[placid cape]

yey congrats

[hoary sluice]

.

[fleet cedar]

Chaining is not a virtue

Readable code is

[hoary sluice]

not in aoc

if im writirg readable code its gonna have almost no chained function calls anywhere

so theres no point in discussing pipes there

[hoary sluice]

like enterprise code

if theres like 3 chained function calls they complain and say split it up

[lavish frigate]

have you worked on enterprise code before

[ionic lake]

enterprise code 🥀

[hoary sluice]

yes

🥀

[lavish frigate]

were you working at a company or what?

[valid jetty]

this code is just so unreadable

[hoary sluice]

the sky is blue

[hoary sluice]

where does someone write enterprise code while not working at a company

[fleet cedar]

For reference, here's my solution https://github.com/Kyuuhachi/advent-of-code/blob/master/24/21.py

I don't know if it's more or less readable

[hoary sluice]

i think it needs some pipes

[lavish frigate]

from my experience with enterprise code (ive been working on enterprise code for the past 3 years) youd get beaten up if you even just thought about using pipes
its new syntax that people would have to learn and that gets heavily avoided
reason why we werent allowed to use ternaries, single line if statements (without curly braces), etc. even new lines were heavily monitored and we could only put new lines on very specific places
all more syntax that doesnt really help but make code less readable for some reason

[fleet cedar]

Enterprise sounds like an utter pain

[lavish frigate]

sadly but it does pay well

[hoary sluice]

the companies/ppl ive worked with were never that strict, they dont want chained function calls or some obscure kotlin stdlib function without explanation (runningFold, associateWith, etc.), but they very much allow functional code, inline ifs, etc

its just meant for ppl to who know the language to be able to read it

if the language happened to have pipes, theyd probably be able to read it, these people have decades of experience with single languages

[ornate quiver]

wtf

[ornate quiver]

associatewith isn't even obscure

[lavish frigate]

https://developer.chrome.com/release-notes/137#css_and_ui

cant wait for firefox to implement this in 5 years

[supple whale]

dw Firefox will implement it with some rce vuln, just like they did with animation timeline

[lucid trail]

Hey firefox has temporal though, before chrome

[royal nymph]

they're ahead quite often

but then also takes ages to implement other cool stuff

[frosty obsidian]

isn't it weird how different companies prioritize different things

[meager bobcat]

all we need to do is bundle a random unsigned dll (technically .so but whatever) and say “totally not malware trust me bro”

(obligatory /s)

[ornate quiver]

whar

[austere idol]

war?

[dense sand]

Step 1/23 : FROM oven/bun:latest
 ---> ee28f2e1b708
Step 2/23 : FROM base AS deps
pull access denied for base, repository does not exist or may require 'docker login': denied: requested access to the resource is denied

whaaa

[dense sand]

Oh wait im stupid

Its not about bun

I forgot as base

[native spruce]

https://swiftcrossui.dev/ @young flicker

[spark tiger]

no transparency on windows & linux 😔

[shrewd canopy]

This is fire

[valid jetty]

js

[lavish frigate]

https://vxtwitter.com/iannuttall/status/1929639798828081175

Ian Nuttall (@iannuttall)

Dangers of vibe coding. This guy thought he built a system to track human movement through walls using mesh routers...

The agent just built simulated data for testing 😂 https://t.co/ftpPAf2qJp

vxTwitter / fixvx · Jun 2, 2025, 8:42 PM

[native spruce]

So close yet so far

[frail turtle]

npm i malware

[hoary sluice]

@valid jetty have you seen the imitation game

[valid jetty]

maybe

it sounds familiar

[ionic lake]

I can agree on boost

[hoary sluice]

watch it

[lucid trail]

I watched this in a CS class lol

[fleet cedar]

I've never used boost tbh

Can't be worse than stdlib

[valid jetty]

𝓑𝓻𝓸𝓽𝓱𝓮𝓻 𝓘 𝓻𝓮𝓬𝓮𝓲𝓿𝓮𝓭 𝔂𝓸𝓾𝓻 𝓶𝓮𝓼𝓼𝓪𝓰𝓮 𝔀𝓮𝓵𝓵. 𝓘𝓽 𝓮𝔁𝓬𝓲𝓽𝓮𝓼 𝓶𝓮 𝓽𝓸 𝓲𝓷𝓯𝓸𝓻𝓶 𝔂𝓸𝓾 𝓪𝓫𝓸𝓾𝓽 𝓪 𝓙𝓪𝓿𝓪𝓢𝓬𝓻𝓲𝓹𝓽 𝓻𝓮𝓼𝓮𝓻𝓿𝓮, 𝓯𝓻𝓮𝓽 𝓷𝓸𝓽, 𝓙𝓪𝓿𝓪𝓢𝓬𝓻𝓲𝓹𝓽 𝔀𝓲𝓵𝓵 𝓫𝓮 𝓼𝓮𝓷𝓽 𝔂𝓸𝓾𝓻 𝔀𝓪𝔂 𝓼𝓸𝓸𝓷.

[royal nymph]

ve "𝓑𝓻𝓸𝓽𝓱𝓮𝓻 𝓘 𝓻𝓮𝓬𝓮𝓲𝓿𝓮𝓭 𝔂𝓸𝓾𝓻 𝓶𝓮𝓼𝓼𝓪𝓰𝓮 𝔀𝓮𝓵𝓵. 𝓘𝓽 𝓮𝔁𝓬𝓲𝓽𝓮𝓼 𝓶𝓮 𝓽𝓸 𝓲𝓷𝓯𝓸𝓻𝓶 𝔂𝓸𝓾 𝓪𝓫𝓸𝓾𝓽 𝓪 𝓙𝓪𝓿𝓪𝓢𝓬𝓻𝓲𝓹𝓽 𝓻𝓮𝓼𝓮𝓻𝓿𝓮, 𝓯𝓻𝓮𝓽 𝓷𝓸𝓽, 𝓙𝓪𝓿𝓪𝓢𝓬𝓻𝓲𝓹𝓽 𝔀𝓲𝓵𝓵 𝓫𝓮 𝓼𝓮𝓷𝓽 𝔂𝓸𝓾𝓻 𝔀𝓪𝔂 𝓼𝓸𝓸𝓷.".normalize("NFKC")

[elder yarrow]

'Brother I received your message well. It excites me to inform you about a JavaScript reserve, fret not, JavaScript will be sent your way soon.'```

[strange matrix]

in client.rs

use std::{
    io::Write,
    net::{TcpStream},
};

fn main() -> () {
    let mut client_connect: TcpStream =
        TcpStream::connect("0.0.0.0:5600").expect("Couldn't connect to port 5600");

    client_connect
        .write(b"hello")
        .expect("Couldn't write to server");
}

@lavish frigate

[lavish frigate]

can you print out the exact output on the server? is the "hello" somewhere in there orr do you only get null bytes

[strange matrix]

here is the

server output

Server is now online.
Ctrl-C to terminate server...
From TcpStream { addr: 127.0.0.1:5600, peer: 127.0.0.1:33108, fd: 4 }
Message "hello\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0"

[lavish frigate]

ah

okay yeah that was me being stupid

[strange matrix]

should i

WAIT

should i do write(b"hello" + 0x0) ?

or something like that

[lavish frigate]

the response of .read is how much was written to the buffer so the actual code shouldve been:

let buffer = [0; 125];
let res = tcpstream.read(&mut buffer).expect("Couldnt read from client");
let string = str::from_utf8(&buffer[..res]).expect("Buffer is not a valid utf8 string");
println!("{string}");

[lavish frigate]

rust strings dont terminate using null bytes

welcome to sane language

[strange matrix]

wait wha

[lavish frigate]

only CStrings terminate with null bytes in rust 😊

[strange matrix]

bruh

i did notice res giving out usize
i was too dumb to realize it was the amount it read

oh my god this line is so weird

println!("Message: {{incoming_msg:?}}",);

like i want to \ those {'s so bad

[gray heron]

@nimble bone could u help me with something webdev related

[nimble bone]

yeah send if i have time i'll help

[gray heron]

basically i cant figure out how to add an inline image to a contenteditable div that acts like a single character, similar to a discord emoji. i have tried surrounding it in a span, no dice, i tried surrounding in zero width spaces, but that makes it so i need to click three times to move the caret past it, and without any of that it does this (b4 and after clicking left key)

      .inline-emoji {
        max-width: 1.6rem;
        max-height: 1.6rem;
        vertical-align: middle;
        display: inline-block;
      }
      .input-area {
        flex: 1;
        outline: none;
        color: #ccc;
        min-height: 24px;
        max-height: calc(35vh - 20px);
        line-height: 1.6rem;
        overflow-y: auto;
        overflow-x: hidden;
        word-break: break-word;
        padding: 1px;
        scrollbar-width: none;
        -ms-overflow-style: none;
        position: relative;
      }

[supple whale]

content editable is text only

it wont work for images

emojis might work as they are just unicode

and you change how they look with a custom font

you do need a font that supports emojis tho

tweemoji is most popular one that's license free

i implemented a word editor in js, and its pain

if possible avoid all non-text

[gray heron]

issue: that removes the possibility of using custom emojis

[supple whale]

yes

so either implement contenteditable yourself in js from scratch

or no custom emojis

pick ur poison

[gray heron]

so i cant do that Lol, im not sure what else i could possibly do other than contenteditable div

textarea wouldnt work i dont think right

[supple whale]

textarea is... text area

not div area

[gray heron]

o right

[supple whale]

so again, unicode emojis only

[gray heron]

fuck

how do i make a god damn discord text bar 😭

[supple whale]

.

[gray heron]

how would i even do that

i'd literally have to recreate how carets works and shit

[supple whale]

listen to keydown events, read selection regions, etc

[gray heron]

guh

maybe i should like

save emojis and markdown for later for now

i really need a roadmap

but im too lazy

LOL

[supple whale]

i guess prosemirror could help you?

but its still unreal amts of work

again i implemented a wysiwyg editor myself once

and i never want to do it again

[gray heron]

i dont think it'll be that difficult more so just repetitive

[supple whale]

haha

you're clueless

you're forgetting that whatever you're doing with custom emojis needs to be serialized and deserialzied

to be sent as text

that alone is fun

[gray heron]

serialized

what

why would i need to do that

[supple whale]

then shit like keybinds

history

selections

[supple whale]

so... people dont just do <script>go fuck yourself</script>....?

[gray heron]

okay those r easy tho

[supple whale]

again, clueless

[gray heron]

... text sent via messages are cleansed way before that would ever be possible

[supple whale]

sure on your client

not on the network

[gray heron]

the text the user sees themselves typing is a preview

[gray heron]

..on both

<script>go fuck yourself</script> wouldnt just turn into an element because you typed it yk

[supple whale]

it would need to if you didnt do serialization, because otherwise your <img src='emoji'> wont work

[gray heron]

im just gonna make everything the user types within a span and everything within the span stringified, then make a new span after emojis etc etc

which fixes all the issues yu just came up with

[supple whale]

not came up with

but mentioned

[gray heron]

came up with doesnt mean it's fake lol

it just

came to ur mind

[supple whale]

cuz this is standard text messaging sanitisations

[gray heron]

yop

[supple whale]

would you look at that

serialization

.

[gray heron]

...wait is that what that is

dude u were talking about it like it's some text wizardry that's very simple js

😭

[supple whale]

yes converting a data structure into something that be exchanged with a protocol

is serialization

[supple whale]

because you probably half assed it

and extending it will be pain

[gray heron]

i didnt half ass shit bc the code doesnt exist yet

[supple whale]

welp enjoy then

[gray heron]

serialization in your definition in this situation is. extremely simple

Lol

it's just gonna take a while cuz i need to build the rest of the application before i add that cuz recreating contenteditable will take. like. a week.

Lol

it'll be even easier if i just represent everything as a js array

:p

@supple whale what do you think should be my next course of action, this is what i have right now (emoji button is obv not gonna work yet)

the emoji button does to the cool thing where it changes faces when you hover it tho

so that's cool

[valid jetty]

@hoary sluice https://youtu.be/0me3guauqOU?si=DE0iIgZWVFrLhpM6

[spark tiger]

omg swift site is so pretty now https://x.com/swiftlang/status/1930327416813302182

Swift Language (@SwiftLang)

Ahem... 🆕

X · Jun 4, 2025, 6:14 PM

[ivory heath]

This is an extremely good video

something IIRC he does not go over is a similar transform, wavelets that came later

there was a lot of hype around it till people even eventually realized they werent as effective in energy compaction as the DCT

[frigid summit]

is this Kate?

[gaunt badge]

They’re so true

[solemn ravine]

my demon app still works good

[nimble bone]

demons in my iPhone???

[crude skiff]

who can help me with a problem in a plugin

its the big file upload plugin

it aint working

[solemn ravine]

whats a foundation

[dense sand]

when yall have conflicts in lockfiles, do you just delete it and generate it new?

[ionic lake]

sure

[frail turtle]

idk what they do so I just delete them and hope it fixes itself

[dense sand]

lmao

never using copilot again

im never using drizzle again

[shrewd canopy]

im never using js/typescript again

[spark tiger]

ts*

[lavish frigate]

this*

[nimble bone]

go to the plugin thread.

[unkempt ember]

SOLID is a truly amazing principle. I was coding my little project like, bip boup boup, bip and I came to the conclusion that the feature I was developing requires an Event Broker to dynamically update values from multiple isolated Fragment ( Fragment here refer to View for a single component like a Selector, a Toggle Button, etc... )

However, on one of the Fragment, this Coordinator did basically the same things as the Fragment's Controller, so since this code respect the Liskov Substitution principle, I could just swap the Controller for the Coordinator no overhead or over-engineering.

Sorry, for the chunk of text, but I needed to tell someone about it, because I was so happy to find this out

[void leaf]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1026504914131759104/1379126408370061393/OAVhUib.gif

[fleet cedar]

SOLID feels kind of outdated to me

My design principles are essential does it work, is it fast, is it pretty

[valid jetty]

my design principles are make it work, make it correct, make it fast, make it clean, make it pretty

working != correct

[fleet cedar]

If your code says 2+2=5 then your code isn't working

[unkempt ember]

Unless Bertrand Russell is running it, in that case everything is fine.

[lavish frigate]

Wait 2+2 doesn’t equal 5?

[valid jetty]

@hoary sluice @placid cape how do i make page numbering skip the title and contents pages???

in typst

figured it out

[valid jetty]

thats kinda funny honestly

fuck i just realized

its ambiguous when you do

const foo = fn() -> i32[];
const foo = fn() -> i32 [1];

wjndkjabwa

this is kinda cool tho

const QbeType::display = fn(QbeType self) -> string self;

fn QbeType::__hash(QbeType self, u64 capacity) {
    return self.display().__hash__(capacity);
}

fn QbeType::__fmt__(QbeType self, i32 nesting) {
    return HashMap::with_entries(
        $(QbeType::Int, "w"),
        $(QbeType::Long, "l"),
        $(QbeType::Byte, "b")
    )[self];
}

[spark tiger]

someone commented about my friend's site and im struggling to understand what they actually meant by that. can someone help me decipher it?

your site is so easy
it's so easy to inject (???) and find data about owners
if you didnt private it with cloudflare
next time find a better coder
tbh idk what kinda data u can find, i just know some site vulnerabilities
ip of registration
but that is if you do it yourself and not privating with a service
and if the accounts are linked cuz all i seen was some contacts and all that stuff
but dw i think everything is fine

am i dumb or are they saying complete bs??

like this doesnt even make sense

fuck are they trynna say

[lavish frigate]

Send the site

[spark tiger]

the thing is the only functionality that site has is subscribing to mailing list. that's it

what kind of fucking injection are they even talking about

idgi

[lavish frigate]

no one here is gonna be able to tell you without looking into the site

😭

or do you want us to guess

[shrewd canopy]

i'd guess sql injection lol then

[spark tiger]

i mean theyr talking about some privating with cloudflare??

like what does it even mean

i mean ik what cloudflare is

[lavish frigate]

cloudflare by default tries to prevent a bunch of attacks

guessing thats what they mean

[lavish frigate]

(such as sql injection)

[spark tiger]

ight can i dm you the site?

[lavish frigate]

sure

[spark tiger]

hey so uh does any of what they said make sense

[lavish frigate]

whelp its definitely not sql injection

[spark tiger]

i stg mf just watched like one cybersec vid on yt and decided to trashtalk the coder

[lavish frigate]

yea probably

[spark tiger]

and like "you better find a better coder" who tf are you???

anyways thanks

[royal nymph]

is that ai generated 😭

[fleet cedar]

Definitely

[royal nymph]

oh yeah defo

[placid cape]

real

[lavish frigate]

wtf i just copied an image from twitter 😭

there we go

no ai 😊

[placid cape]

paint.net

goat

🔥

[lavish frigate]

:3

[balmy lintel]

yellow tint = ai generated

[royal nymph]

we love piss filter

[royal nymph]

the type of ReadonlyArray#includes in typescript is so stupid

[royal nymph]

const array = [1, 2, 3] as const; // readonly [1, 2, 3]
const x: number = 4;

array.includes(x) // argument of type number is not assignable to parameter of type 1 | 2 | 3

they should type it as something like this instead, it would be so fire

includes(element: unknown, fromIndex?: number): element is T;

=>

const array = [1, 2, 3] as const; // readonly [1, 2, 3]
const x: number = 4;

if (array.includes(x)) {
    // x is now typed as 1 | 2 | 3
}

[winged mantle]

trueee

[dense sand]

What torrent clients for android

[spark tiger]

https://x.com/skooookum/status/1930668345142939912

skooks (@skooookum)

intern just proposed we rewrite our most critical c++ service in Zig (it’s his third day)

X · Jun 5, 2025, 4:49 PM

[royal nymph]

dont care about the else

[winged mantle]

i have a file just with oceanic channel type guards

[royal nymph]

libretorrent

[supple whale]

just run webtorrent on nodejs

.

[jade stone]

?remind 4pm try to repro https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/glibmm/-/issues/93

[delicate grove]

Alright @jade stone, in 2 hours, 56 minutes and 46 seconds: try to repro GNOME/glibmm#93

[royal nymph]

?remind @jade stone in 2h please explode

[delicate grove]

Time is either in an inappropriate location, which must be either at the end or beginning of your input, or I just flat out did not understand what you meant. Sorry.

[royal nymph]

guhhh

bot needs to add support for creating reminders for other users

[meager bobcat]

reminder that 1n << 0 throws a typeerror in javascript (no TS required)

[royal nymph]

ya

cause mixing bigint and normal int

[calm terrace]

does anyone know much about how browser extensions are built for both chrome and firefox?

I'm making a chrome -> firefox extension converter and it's a little more ambitious than I initally thought it would be

[delicate grove]

@jade stone, <t:1749229394:R>: try to repro GNOME/glibmm#93

[lavish frigate]

its a lot more ambitious since the extension apis differ a lot

[calm terrace]

I've discovered that that hard way

[lavish frigate]

they also have permission differences

[calm terrace]

I thought it might just converting the manifest at first

[lavish frigate]

and firefox doesnt support all the apis

[calm terrace]

yep

I got a dictionary for converting manifest from chrome to firefox values

and it will also move the importScripts values into it cus firefox doesn't have that

problem is tho with some of the more complex plugins the panel won't even display anything and seems to have serious trouble running the JS

[nimble bone]

just ship the extension to Grok and ask to convert

[calm terrace]

I unironically did that with chatgpt for the manifest early on

is grok able to look over a set of a files though?

[lavish frigate]

yes because the apis function differently

[calm terrace]

not that I plan to do it because that's what my thing is for

[lavish frigate]

iirc firefox api is promise based while js is callback based

firefox also renames a ton of functions

[calm terrace]

apparently firefox does support chrome.* so that's good

maybe there's a js compat layer I can find

luckily mozilla has this documentation: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Mozilla/Add-ons/WebExtensions/Chrome_incompatibilities

[hoary sluice]

arent there chrome extension wrappers for firefox

[calm terrace]

possibly

mozilla has one for going from firefox to chrome but idk about the other way around

[calm terrace]

til firefox is more picky about type safety

[calm terrace]

progress, this actually has buttons now they're just invisible. I plan to put this project up on github this weekend as it does at least work for more simple extensions (which I think are less likely to be cross-plat anyway). it's written in C# and people smarter than me can do a PR

soon I'll be able to block double the amount of ads I'm already blocking using 2 versions of ublock origin

also usable pasting the link as a cli parameter, might have --file and --url in the future

[icy geode]

Hey folks, how can I turn off/hide the server tags locally with QuickCSS?

[frosty obsidian]

use inspect element to find the class for the tag then just display: none;

[calm terrace]

really a question for #🎨-theme-development but you can use Ctrl+Shift+I to inspect element anything you want to get rid of, look at the html and if you were to see something like <div class="server-tags"> or something you'd do div.server-tags { display:none; } or [class="server-tags"] { display: none; }. if you want only the start of the class name for instances like <div class="server-tags_abc123"> you can do [class^="server-tags_"] { display: none; }, also works for other elements, such as aria-label which would be like [aria-label="cool tag"] { display: none; } or something like that

[calm terrace]

my man has the typing indicators plugin

[frosty obsidian]

i do but its unrelated to the events

[calm terrace]

if not aware already, do of course be careful with starts with thing because other elements might start with the same class name

[calm terrace]

https://github.com/Halkiion/fox-convert :3

[ionic lake]

cool :3

[solemn ravine]

reminds me of https://developer.apple.com/documentation/safariservices/converting-a-web-extension-for-safari

[calm terrace]

cool stuff. it would be nice if all the browser devs had their own implementation or preferably even an agreed upon API

[solemn ravine]

safari extensions are just chrome/firefox extensions, supports both but needs them to be a .app

the converter just does that

[calm terrace]

rare apple W

[solemn ravine]

though the outputted project is quite shit honestly and is only meant for functionality

I actually took it upon myself to just remake the project the best I can without sacrificing anything https://github.com/Vencord/Vencord-Safari-Extension

truly wonders, 99 lines of swift code

[calm terrace]

I need to make a compile script for arch to keep the arch users happy

all I have a .deb file right now

don't have an arch machine for testing tho

[calm terrace]

done. no fuckin clue if it actually works

[hoary sluice]

@valid jetty my github contribution graph is about to look like the nigerian flag

0 commits in june

[pulsar elk]

lmao i have one

i fell off so hard

[hoary sluice]

i was doing 1 commit a day in order to actually complete my diploma thesis

now i graduated and am on vacation

it worked tho, the supervisor said its the best thesis hes ever seen

[dense sand]

i cannot find motivation to code tbf

[royal nymph]

posting one piece of anti crab propaganda a day to slowly get it into people's heads

[lavish frigate]

venthing
NOT memory safe
NOT blazingly fast
NOT configurable
wrtitten in typescript
only 705 dependencies

[royal nymph]

is that vencord lmao

[lavish frigate]

vesktop

😭

[royal nymph]

ah

it's all dev dependencies

only like 10 dependencies actually end up in the production bundle

but yeah source code folder is crazy big like 500mb lmao

[lavish frigate]

your 10000k million dependency js project will never compare to my 0 dependency performance eating shitcode!

[royal nymph]

(electron downloading an entire chromium binary to it doesn't help)

[royal nymph]

https://fixupx.com/shaiunterslak/status/1931125753149817010

shai (@shaiunterslak)

happy 'missed another opportunity to create generational wealth' day to those who celebrate :)

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FixupX · Jun 6, 2025, 11:07 PM

[lavish frigate]

INSANE

[austere idol]

OpenBSD
NOT memory safe
blazingly fast
configurable
written in c, the only actual programming language
the only dependency to build a base system is llvm toolchain

[lavish frigate]

too many deps

[royal nymph]

llvm is uber bloat

[celest lodge]

llvm isnt that bad

compared to chromium..

llvm is pretty good actually

chromium is just a fancy javascript interpreter now

[lavish frigate]

why the fuck would you compare llvm to chromium

those 2 are completely different

[celest lodge]

both are C++ projects that deserve to die

so id say they are about equal

[lavish frigate]

least schizo vencord member

[shrewd canopy]

Filething
MEMORY SAFE
blazingly fast
Configurable
Written in python
Only 3 deps (aiohttp, attrs, yarl)

[lavish frigate]

>python
>fast
Get the fuck out

[still jolt]

[shrewd canopy]

Cython, numba and nuitka:

[lavish frigate]

okay so this tells me that python is full of dumbass idiots that would rather make a tool to convert their garbage script into an actual good language than learn the actual good langauge

holy shit the python ecosystem is fucked

even more so than the js one

[shrewd canopy]

Um no, we do not have ton of indirect is-x dependencies

[lavish frigate]

who gaf about is-x dependencies when you have to write your dependencies in c to make your shit run fast 😭

[ionic lake]

you don't have to though

most of the time its negligible or none

[placid cape]

i have 924 commit streak xddd

on gh

i need to be active again tbh because i only have like 1 commit per day

but i started cycling and it's amazing :D

[dense sand]

I have incredible problems with procrastination, burning out and not feeling like doing anything

And i dont know what to do about it

Like i have 0 motivation to do anything

[placid cape]

been like that for about a month

my mental health was really bad

but i jus started cycling and i think... its way better

[dense sand]

Good idea to start some outdoor activity

[placid cape]

Follow me on Instagram and strava

[dense sand]

Recently my back has started to hurt too

I need to fix my life

[solemn ravine]

@nimble bone install https://theos.dev/

[native spruce]

syntax highlighting moment

[royal nymph]

why's it so fail

[hoary sluice]

@valid jetty no discord in turkey

[ornate quiver]

you are frail

[spark tiger]

did they really name it BUN_BE_BUN??? https://x.com/bunjavascript/status/1931554079198822770

Bun (@bunjavascript)

In the next version of Bun

Standalone executables can be bun with the `BUN_BE_BUN=1` env var, thanks to @thdxr. This lets you use all the features of Bun's CLI in your standalone executable.

X · Jun 8, 2025, 3:29 AM

[lavish frigate]

I think there's been some confusion here. "Arch btw" isn't a version of Arch. I guess you could call it a bit of a meme. When people say "I use Arch btw," the "btw" actually means "iron man mode."

This might sound like complete nonsense, but bear with me. The phrasing comes from a game called Runescape. Although it's well-known for being a massively multiplayer online roleplaying game, accounts may be created in "iron man mode," imposing various restrictions upon the account intended to force the player to rely upon themselves and largely turning the game into a single-player experience. Due to stereotypes surrounding iron man players - specifically, their compulsive urge to share the fact that they're an "iron man btw" - the term "btw" is playfully used as a synonym for "iron man." Due to a 100% overlap between Arch users and Runescape players (don't ask me why - I can't even begin to imagine), the term "btw" was used to refer to an analogous "iron man" challenge conceived by Arch users.

As far as what that challenge entails, there's a bit of debate there.

Originally, it meant no internet access. This forces users to craft their own software or obtain it via physical media rather than the package manager. This might sound strange or even horrifying, but many feel it recreates a certain era in Linux's history.

As the Arch btw challenge grew more popular, however, some began to argue that the magic wasn't in having zero internet access but more about eliminating the package manager in particular. They reason that the package manager did away with countless precious interactions between users and developers, making Arch less of a social distro. Such individuals argue the essential restriction of Arch btw is not using the package manager and began referring to the zero internet version of Arch btw as "hardcore Arch btw."

Others have gone the opposite direction and imposed even more restrictions upon themselves, such as not using non-volatile storage, having their computer detonate on losing power, or not using systemd.

There's much, much more to cover, but hopefully I've said enough to clear things up!

btw I use Arch btw, by the way

edit: And to be clear, I mean hardcore Arch btw. I coded my own networking software and hand-made a cable that I plugged into my neighbor's router while he wasn't looking, so I haven't broken any restrictions.

[ionic lake]

what?

[ionic lake]

There's no btw version yes

it's a meme

[shrewd canopy]

Time to make arch btw version with pre installed hyprland and kde

[dense sand]

This is just why

[hoary sluice]

@valid jetty @placid cape love me some SLOWER THAN DIAL UP desert mobile data

[dense sand]

car

[placid cape]

3 mbps

[placid cape]

this is weird

[dense sand]

does any icon library provide minecraft-like icons?

basically only blocks

in format similar to this from lucide

[lavish frigate]

well thats extremely specific

i dont think so

[dense sand]

does anyone know if its possible to bypass fortinet shield? like i had a headscale server setup but i cant access it because my domain is too new so fortinet blocks it

i tried ssh proxy but still cant join voice chat on discord in browser

atleasting being able to ping my server would be cool

...

[still jolt]

is it just dns or does it do more

[dense sand]

i believe it does deep packet inspection whatever that means

all standard vpns are blocked

nordvpn, protonvpn etc. dont work

normal tailscale wouldnt work either, i had to setup custom headscale server

[spark tiger]

oh i thought u just misspelled fortnite

[dense sand]

😭

[supple whale]

has any1 here ever had a problem where eslint failed, but only on github actions? https://github.com/ThaUnknown/miru/actions/runs/15519997525/job/43694827072

this shit straight up passes locally

and i have no clue why

it's the first time i've ever seen this

its not that it doesnt lint the files locally, since it does print all the warnings in the files if i remove quiet

even the ones that error in CI

i'm honestly at such as loss its unfunny

[spark tiger]

our game's tests keep failing and oddly enough it only happens on github actions too :/

gh actions funi

[nimble bone]

wait ten days

then newly registered domain is gone

[dense sand]

wow

i guess

its the way

[lucid trail]

doesn't for me

[supple whale]

you get the same errors locally?

[supple whale]

r u on windows or linux?

[lucid trail]

Yes

[supple whale]

. why isnt this failing for me

[lucid trail]

mac, notably if I run it with act i get different errors

[supple whale]

how the fuck is this so inconsistent

im fucking using a package lock

no, i use a pnpm lock

so i used pnpm i --frozen-lockfile

i did

[lucid trail]

Lol i get 41 errors with act, but 21 locally

[supple whale]

right?

wtf is happening here

[lucid trail]

still can't get it to fail locally?

what if you do it on a new worktree

[royal nymph]

i despise how js doesn't have Iterator.join()

[supple whale]

function * join(iterators) {
  for (const iterator of iterators) yield * iterator
}

yw

[royal nymph]

please

userSet.values().filter(fn).join(", ");

[supple whale]

also works for async iterables

[royal nymph]

no i mean like joinToString

[royal nymph]

this

you have to do

userSet.values().filter(fn).toArray().join(", ");

i hate it

[supple whale]

that's just [...it].join(", ")

[royal nymph]

yes but that's ugly lol

[supple whale]

what you want is probably it.reduce()

[royal nymph]

and creates useless array

even java has support for this

[supple whale]

no

i'm actually going insane

XDDDDD

WTFFFF

[royal nymph]

array.stream().map(...).collect(Collectors.joining(", "));

[balmy lintel]

is there a good way to type the return of catch

i just do

try {} catch (e: any) {}

ts doesnt like this for some reason
Catch clause variable type annotation must be 'any' or 'unknown' if specified

try {} catch (e: Error) {}

im not that experienced with types

[royal nymph]

ts doesn't allow typing as Error cause it doesn't have to be

[balmy lintel]

oh

so using any/unknown in that case is fine?

[royal nymph]

try {
  throw "balls";
} catch (e: Error) {
  // oops
}

try {
  throw "balls";
} catch (e: unknown) {
    if (e instanceof Error) {
        ...
    } else {
        // what the fuck are u throwing man
    }
}

[balmy lintel]

oh

didnt think about that

thank you

i would still prefer if catch (e: Error) worked though lol

[supple whale]

OH MY GOD

THANK YOU MR RUBBER DUCK

I LOVE YOU

[balmy lintel]

yeah but thats also meh :/

[lucid trail]

what was it

[balmy lintel]

lc.transcribe

[shrewd canopy]

Thats why I use python/C++/Rust nowadays
they feel actually more sane

[visual shell]

Unable to transcribe requested resource.

[balmy lintel]

@pearl dawn will fix pissbot

[pearl dawn]

i am busy fixing gramophone critical error

ripple doesnt activate if you hover outside ofd this area

very serious problem

[lucid trail]

oh my god that is so dumb