🪅-progaming

[dense sand]

@valid jetty do you have gc implemented

[formal belfry]

Roie Codes

[valid jetty]

ya

https://github.com/acquitelol/elle/blob/rewrite/std/runtime/allocators/gc.le (header)

its the default allocator

however if you compile with --nogc it uses
https://github.com/acquitelol/elle/blob/rewrite/std/runtime/allocators/arena.le instead (header)

[austere anchor]

wait elle has headers?

nooo

[valid jetty]

not really

just external functions so you can link with libraries

but that lets me put stuff in a runtime and not include the body of every stdlib function in every compilation which is really slow

[austere anchor]

o

[valid jetty]

it acts like a header but it's just a normal elle file

[dense sand]

I was wondering what strategy could i use for my jvm runtime

For heap allocation

And gc

[fleet cedar]

You're implementing your own jvm?

[valid jetty]

gc is quite simple if you know where the top and bottom of your stack is so you can scan roots

the basic premise is you just scan the stack for allocated pointers, then use those pointers to scan their whole region recursively until you find no more pointers

whatever you find stays

whatever you don't find goes

i must've explained this so many times by now xd but yea

[dense sand]

Is this the mark sweep thing ive read about

[valid jetty]

yes

you need to scan the "roots" aka where the start of the recursive chain is, where you find the first pointers into the heap

depending on your runtime that may be the stack, static memory, etc

if you wanna optimize it you can also remember what you last used as the "marked" variable (whether you use true or false) so that you can make things that were marked before stay marked to make it faster because you knows if a pointer is still in scope then all of its pointers that you can find from it will also stay in scope

but that's probably out of scope of what you wanna do

you can read my gc is quite simple

https://github.com/acquitelol/elle/blob/rewrite/std/runtime/allocators/gc.le#L140-L212 this is the only important part

i don't do the optimization thing i just unmark everything before scanning again

which is slow but whatever

[dense sand]

For the allocation itself, freelist is a good goto for heap?

[valid jetty]

yes definitely

i do just a naive tracking allocator with a linked list bucket hashmap to keep track of every allocation's pointer

it would be way better to have a freelist and reuse memory instead of freeing it because allocation and deallocation is slow

[dense sand]

Nice thanks

[dense sand]

Well i want to practice my C skills, so i decided id give it a go - my initial idea was to make it small enough to be able to run it on avr

But im not sure if im fitting that

[valid jetty]

i don't think making a jvm to practice your c skills is a good idea lol

[dense sand]

Just a minimal example obv, nothing serious

[fleet cedar]

Sounds like a cool project imo, as long as you don't expect to make anything competitive

[dense sand]

Obviously not

Just an mwp

[valid jetty]

for me i think writing something like a language that uses c semantics is better because you can compare what you're writing to c itself and to be able to do that you have to know c

i now know c fluently and i haven't written a single line of c code directly lol

but i may be biased

[fleet cedar]

Problem with c is that c sucks

[valid jetty]

true

[dense sand]

Mm not really, i honestly really like it

Pretty comfortable with it

The worst thing about it tbh the toolchaining

Cant there be something inbetween makefiles and cmake

[valid jetty]

the worst thing about c is the verbosity imo

[fleet cedar]

Headers

[valid jetty]

typedef struct {} Foo;

oh and headers yes

[dense sand]

I dont mind headers

I have 1 header

[valid jetty]

and like, duplicate symbols

lol

[dense sand]

Include guards?

Or wdym

[valid jetty]

yes but the fact that needs to exist at all is annoying

[dense sand]

I guess i just like verbose languages

[valid jetty]

me too but sometimes it's a little much

[fleet cedar]

I hate verbose languages

I want to write the important parts, the unimportant parts should be handled automatically

[valid jetty]

if you had to know how many abstractions are going on to make this simple code work

use std/prelude;

fn main() {
    x := [1, 2, 3];
}
``` C could NEVER

equivalent code in C probably

#define DYNARR_IMPLEMENTATION
#include "dynarr.h"

DEFINE_ARRAY_T(int);

int main() {
    Array_int x;
    Array_int_push(x, 1);
    Array_int_push(x, 2);
    Array_int_push(x, 3);
    return 0;
}

i could write an api for it like this with macros

[dense sand]

I love realloc

[valid jetty]

true

[dense sand]

Make it use void* so its more universal

[keen spoke]

Or like this int n[] = {1, 2}

[valid jetty]

that's not dynamic

the one in elle can be pushed and popped from

[keen spoke]

I'd expect [] to be static honestly

dynamic should be explicit

[fleet cedar]

Dynamic by default is fine in languages like python

But seems fishy in compiled languages

[valid jetty]

idk elle is more high level now even though it's compiled

[austere anchor]

u should prob make this like vec![] in rust

I would also be assuming [...] is static array

[winged mantle]

the vec! part: just to make programmers feel clever because they need to type more

[austere anchor]

i mean normal [] in rust is static

so

[valid jetty]

elle has #[] for static

i will eventually add attributes or whatever to them

[deep mulch]

@valid jetty Elle JVM

[jade stone]

@valid jetty make Elle compile down to js

[austere idol]

no, we need lua or python bytecode

[valid jetty]

i could compile to wasm

[spark tiger]

ayo what https://x.com/theo/status/1894661673388314710

Theo - t3.gg (@theo) on X

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[fleet cedar]

Why link to a twitter image of the thread instead of the thread itself

[spark tiger]

1. i’m lazy
2. to show the explanation comment in embed without having to open the link

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43178831

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[icy needle]

@valid jetty how many passes do you do for codegen?

i think i'll wanna do 2

[valid jetty]

1

[icy needle]

damn

[austere idol]

i need to check all my neovim plugins

[valid jetty]

thats not a good thing

it breaks stuff like self recursive functions

because their declaration isnt defined

so i need to declare its header while compiling the body and remove it after the body compilation is done but before adding the declaring the real function with its body

along with a bunch of other hacks to keep it single pass

[icy needle]

yeah that's what i was thinking

one for declarations and one for definitions

[supple whale]

this feels.... wrong

[supple whale]

toolchain 'nightly-x86_64-pc-windows-msvc' does not support target 'wasm64-unknown-unknown';
pain

[valid jetty]

you cant really recurse yourself in a lambda so i exclude them from this thing

thats pretty crazy

6060 lines of elle code

the rest is rust

and i actually have a lot more in other repos too hm

2018 lines of elle code in aoc solutions

[supple whale]

has anyone ever compiled C libraries via Rust?

considering it because of how simple rust/cargo is in comparison to anything C related

[valid jetty]

does rustc also compile C???

[supple whale]

idk

im very much a rust/native noobie

all examples i look at are "hey lets do it with our own self-made hello world"

meanwhile i want to compile gigabytes of ready, 3rd party dependencies

and cant find any1 doing that

[valid jetty]

you can link with 3rd party dependencies via rust???

rustc does not compile C code if thats what youre asking

[supple whale]

ah, so i'd still be doing linking via gcc

poo

[fleet cedar]

https://crates.io/crates/cc if you want your crate to automatically build and link against a c library

But no, the step of actually compiling the c is, naturally, done by a c compiler

[supple whale]

yeah that probs wont help me much, unforunate

[fleet cedar]

If you mean "the c tooling sucks, let's use the rust tooling for c instead", miracles aren't real

[supple whale]

unfortunately lol

[placid cape]

do you remember that i sent you a compiler that had wasm?

[supple whale]

wasm is pain

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1003503501193777243.webp?size=48&name=KannaSip

[placid cape]

yea it is

[valid jetty]

yes but i would rather do it from scratch like i have done so far

[placid cape]

yeah yeah but it's just a great resource

[valid jetty]

i guess so

wasm isnt really in my plans atm because it will take so long

[placid cape]

you should focus on enums

[valid jetty]

im just focusing on whatever i feel doing / something that pops up in my head lol

the set_allocator thing was completely sporradic i did it in one evening because it just popped into my head that i can do it like that

[icy needle]

common zig w

[valid jetty]

c++ compiler

[supple whale]

how does wasm-bindgen have 0 documentation around memory init

how the fuck do i init memory or specifify its size and max size

like why do you have this, and why cant i do anything to change whats in it

D:

[icy needle]

it's good when you have dependencies on c/c++ stuff

and you can build them through build.zig along with all your other files

also you can convert c code directly to zig too

[supple whale]

could some1 that actually speaks rust help explain me this?: https://github.com/rustwasm/wasm-bindgen/blob/main/crates/cli-support/src/js/mod.rs#L816

this shit never is included

idk why

[valid jetty]

yeah but the fact that the zig team need to maintain a whole c++ abi compliant compiler……

[austere anchor]

omg Result<T, Box<dyn Error>> so good

[valid jetty]

true

[icy needle]

true

i mean they do have the funds i guess

[keen spoke]

dynamic is only fine by default if the language is dynamic by default

[valid jetty]

i disagree

dynamic arrays are really fucking useful in statically typed languages

[keen spoke]

I didnt say they are useless

[keen spoke]

I said

[valid jetty]

yea but idk

[keen spoke]

Dynamic is a more abstract concept than static, so it should be second class not first

If your language isn't treating dynamic as first class

[valid jetty]

it’s not really abstract it’s just a static array that is reallocated

[keen spoke]

realloc only works on heap allocated memory

[valid jetty]

yes but the buffer you get is still static

[keen spoke]

Aka dynamic allocated, not stackalloc

[valid jetty]

unless you resize it

[icy needle]

yeah that's why i'm adding it as a type into the syntax

[keen spoke]

The array itself is not static though

a = [] calls malloc

[valid jetty]

i know what you mean but in that case we shouldn’t make stack allocated count as static we should only count memory in the static data section of the assembly

[icy needle]

oh fuck i forgot to add a raw pointer

[keen spoke]

What i mean is that a = [] calling malloc is unexpected at first

From a DX perspective

[valid jetty]

considering how high level elle is i would expect it

[keen spoke]

Kotlin solved this extremely elegantly

listOf()
mutableListOf()

[valid jetty]

sure i guess

[keen spoke]

Functions are first class

[valid jetty]

why would you ever make an empty listOf() xd

[keen spoke]

listOf by default, static
mutableListOf explicit, dynamic

[keen spoke]

listOf calls emptyList() which references a static empty list object if no params are passed

However listOf(1) allocates a new object

[valid jetty]

yeah but if listOf is immutable why would you ever make an empty one

what use does it have

[keen spoke]

If you wanna be expressive you can also use emptyList() instead of listOf()

[keen spoke]

Well plenty usecases

[icy needle]

what would you even allocate with 0 length tho

[keen spoke]

For example if you wanna filter for homeless people

[valid jetty]

LMAO

[icy needle]

like only the length itself?

[keen spoke]

say you allocate a new human

And define how many homes it has

so u use emptyList()

[valid jetty]

husk

[keen spoke]

Or listOf()

[valid jetty]

i guess so

[keen spoke]

Uses zero heap because it references a static empty list

[icy needle]

it kinda depends on where you're talking about

[keen spoke]

Im just giving an example

[icy needle]

if it's LA or SF then 0 allocs are a waste

[keen spoke]

Kotlin DX is insane if you take close looks at the language desifn

Its 99% perfect

Or lets stay realistic, 98%

[icy needle]

but in most places most ppl have 1 home, so 1 init makes more sense

[keen spoke]

homelessGuy()

Allocates human(homes = emptyList())

[icy needle]

idk, not everything should be a callback

[keen spoke]

Its not a callback

Its just a functikn

Which is extremely useful as seen in DSL

[icy needle]

that's one of my annoyances with zig for example, you have a lot of stuff that could be a part of syntax but is just some std method

[keen spoke]

Not sure wym

[icy needle]

sorry i use function and callback interchangeably

[valid jetty]

idk @keen spoke would you expect a language as high level as this to stack alloc arrays https://github.com/acquitelol/elle/blob/rewrite/examples/graphics/pong.le

[keen spoke]

Uhh sec

[keen spoke]

I always expect to be able to create a

• static list
• mutable list

Mutability should not be default unless your language treats mutability as first class

[icy needle]

for example instead of assert cond ır assert(cond) you have std.debug.assert(cond)

[keen spoke]

Mutability is more abstract than static

[valid jetty]

yes everything is mutable

[icy needle]

a lot of things are pointlessly verbose

[valid jetty]

simpler for compilation

[keen spoke]

Thats dangerous

[valid jetty]

oh well

[keen spoke]

C# has worsen in language design due to backwards compatibility requirements however its extremly versatile and gives you atomic control over memory

[valid jetty]

c# is also microsoftware

and you can tell

[keen spoke]

Its managed and unmanaged and has every nieche features around memory you can imagine

[keen spoke]

Yop

It was good until like c# 8

Then it got weird

Legacy syntax as well imo, like java

[valid jetty]

java still doesn’t have a shorthand to write to stdout

[keen spoke]

just create your own method

Java is pretty much metbods, classes and fields and a little sugar for statement body

It's vanilla the same way c is

However abstract languages are suitable for abstract purposes which makes kotlin extremely suitable for pretty much everything real world

[icy needle]

idk adding like 10 more tokens and parsing them as unary ops isn't that difficult

[supple whale]

#[wasm_bindgen]
#[target_feature(enable = "simd128")]
pub fn hash_sha256(data: &[u8]) -> Vec<u8> {
    blake3::hash(data).as_bytes().to_vec()
}

are those valid macros? shit compiles, but am i correct in assuming that if there's no SIMD128 then this function will just error or do nothing?

[fleet cedar]

https://doc.rust-lang.org/reference/attributes/codegen.html#r-attributes.codegen.target_feature.target-ub

https://doc.rust-lang.org/reference/attributes/codegen.html#r-attributes.codegen.target_feature.wasm says in wasm, it'll fail at load time of unsupported

[supple whale]

so its safe to assume that the fact that it loads and executes shit correctly, data isnt mangled etc that it is using SIMD?

great

[fleet cedar]

That's what it says, I don't know the details

[supple whale]

fuck man, how is wasm developing so slowly

[dense sand]

Whats the best way to manage dependencies for my c project

[supple whale]

git modules from my experience

[dense sand]

Cause like my project depends on a C library, should i just make it a git submodule

[supple whale]

its insane cancer

[dense sand]

Okay

[supple whale]

yeah, thats usually the expected flow

[supple whale]

i dont get it, "enable-threads" is a valid aregument too, but it doesnt show up ANYWHERE in the rust documentation

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1233132750366576723.gif?size=48&animated=true&name=woe

[dense sand]

@supple whale should i be putting my header files into include/ instead of src/

[supple whale]

honestly

i dont know

i've been doing C for 2 years, and i still have not managed to get a working header files setup that has intellisense

[dense sand]

lmao

i usually just run bear -- make which makes compile_commands.json file for my clangd lsp

and that works

[fleet cedar]

Imo include/ is for consumers, i.e. the public interface

If you're making a program rather than a library, there's no benefit in separating them

[dense sand]

i see

well this is a structure i use this structuring: https://github.com/KoblizekXD/classparse but tbh i dont find much appealing to get extra directory just for a single classparse.h header

[valid jetty]

i wonder

i put the elle stdlib in /usr/local/include/elle is that a good idea

[dense sand]

why not just /usr/include?

[valid jetty]

because /usr/include is used for headers of system packages as far as i’m aware

[dense sand]

theres stuff for things like qt here

i mean, usr/local/include is empty for me

[valid jetty]

plenty of things in there for me like node iirc

[fleet cedar]

/usr/ is for things managed by package manager, while /usr/local/ is for things installed manually

[dense sand]

oh i ssee

i should install differnetly then xd

[valid jetty]

ah ok then that should be fine probably

elle installs there through the makefile, so “manually”

https://github.com/acquitelol/elle/blob/rewrite/Makefile#L25-L33 for the runtime literally just disable everything lol

wow the bot doesn’t wanna do the thing

https://github.com/acquitelol/elle/blob/rewrite/Makefile#L25-L33

[pearl stag]

Makefile: Lines 25-33

install-runtime:
    @rm -f $(RUNTIME_PATH)/libelle.o
    @rm -f $(RUNTIME_PATH)/libelle.a
    # must be compiled without anything because this is the module creating it
    # its fine because those modules are actually just headers anyway
    # this is just so the headers dont overwrite the implementation in the stdlib
    ellec $(STD_PATH)/runtime/index.le -o libelle.o -c --noalloc --nogc --nosm --nofmt --nostd
    @ar -rcs $(RUNTIME_PATH)/libelle.a libelle.o
    @rm -f libelle.o

[valid jetty]

there we go

[dense sand]

can someone give me any names for my jvm runtime

gipity gives bad

[valid jetty]

jim

anyway if it were me i would call it a flower so don’t ask me

[dense sand]

dandelion

[placid cape]

average c developer experience

[placid cape]

Unfortunately there's println()

void main() { println("a") }

[fleet cedar]

I don't know what language that is but it ain't java

I do love js's print function though

[placid cape]

https://openjdk.org/jeps/495

[placid cape]

yeah yeah just saying that enums are useful lang feature :)

[runic sundial]

CLion

Or VisualStudio/Code

[supple whale]

good joke!

[runic sundial]

What are you using then?

[supple whale]

"vscode"

but not really

[runic sundial]

I mean in the most esoteric case

make can be used to trigger cmake to generate a compile_commands.json

And then any LSP backend that supports clangd

[supple whale]

idk, the shit im working with cant even be compiled on windows

its utter cancer

[runic sundial]

The thing I said should work on any platform

Literally the most scuffed approach that's worked for me in the past

[supple whale]

so i gotta open it on windows, mount wsl, and compile it that way

if it calls cmake on windows it already wont work

the absolute state of wasm.

[runic sundial]

You just need the compile_commands.json

And for the headers to be visible to clangd

Should be enough

[supple whale]

here

https://github.com/thaunknown/jassub/

i'll pay you to prove me wrong

[runic sundial]

You can't pay me enough to get out of bed

[supple whale]

then do it tmrw

i dont rly care

[runic sundial]

Wait so you're developing this from Windows

But it only compiles on Linux?

[supple whale]

yes!!!!!!!!!

[runic sundial]

That's a touch deranged but now I understand

Is there a reason your cpp project uses make over cmake?

[placid cape]

• why windows 😭

[runic sundial]

Prolly used to it

[valid jetty]

zed >>

[runic sundial]

If you're used to getting work done on Windows, switching is a miserable process the first time

[supple whale]

downstream dependencies have issues with cmake

[supple whale]

because regaredless of what casual players tell you, actual gaming on linux doesnt exist

[supple whale]

its not even that, i know linux quite a bit, but linux just doesnt work, on windows you want something working, you install it, use it, uninstall it

the same process on linux has a 60% chance of bricking ur install

[runic sundial]

On NixOS I don't even need to install stuff

[supple whale]

and the sheer amt of perm issues that doing anything causes is insane

the first thing i do on every linux distro i install, is set fmask and dmask to 777

[runic sundial]

I can just create a shell with a particular program or hell even compile time library present

[runic sundial]

The what

[supple whale]

the default flags for files directories etc

so creating any directory and file will set its perms to 777 by default

[runic sundial]

What the fuck

[supple whale]

and flat out fixes 99% of issues created during installation of anything

[runic sundial]

Just stay on Windows

[supple whale]

yeah i know its a bad idea for security

but i'm not daily driving linux, i'll spin up a vm for 15 minutes to get smth done quickly

then nuke it

[runic sundial]

No, it's also that certain programs expect certain permissions

I really haven't had permission issues when installing stuff

But again, on Nix if I want to run an application that I don't have it's just one command

[supple whale]

yes, but its rare, it will be a problem 1 in 10000, where as masks fix the other 99999 issues

[runic sundial]

When I close the shell, program gone

Still cached, but I can run a GC to clear the cache

[supple whale]

yeah

you see

i like pressing a button and hainvg things just work

and not needing to spend 30 mins to get it to work

which is why i fucking hate compiling C programs

its hell

how the fuck can a build script not work out of the box

what the fuck do you mean i need to fix your build script

what/????

[runic sundial]

I like being able to pull in a particular version of make or ninja or gcc or llvm to compile a neiche program

I can just throw a direnv file and a nix flake into a directory

And it will setup everything if I cd into that directory

And commands just run

Gaming tho? I agree

Sometimes it works, but the moment it does not I ain't fixing it

I'm rebooting into Windows and enjoying my video game

[supple whale]

none of the games i play work on linux

simple reason

anti-cheat

anywas

@runic sundial if ya can fix that build, i'll actually pay you

if you get pthreads working i'll double it

cuz i've gotten to the point of "fuck this" where i'd rather just throw money at the problem

[placid cape]

well yeah because kernel anticheats (malware)

[supple whale]

call it whatever you want, but I'm still going to play the game, kernel level anti cheats aren't even that worry some, a normal anti cheat can inflict the same amt of harm as a kernel lvl ac

case in point: eac being illegally used to access people's PCs

giga known in playrusts scene, noone cares

[ornate quiver]

[ornate quiver]

im liking solidjs + tailwind quite a lot tbh

it's like react but not react

@deep mulch hop off compose web use solidjs

[deep mulch]

too lazy to

[dense sand]

I love paying for foss!

[hard tapir]

I don't understand. I just started learning Rust but the required supplies is this?? What does it have to do with programming?

[icy needle]

lmao

[placid cape]

https://x.com/AwestruckVox/status/1894812633209151833?t=7Ib6x7TthifnfD-zMy54jg&s=19 I love paying for citizenship 😍

kev (@AwestruckVox) on X

from land of the free to land of the battlepass

X · Feb 26, 2025, 6:11 PM

[fleet cedar]

That's hardly fair, I had to pay a hefty sum to cancel my membership

[civic oar]

would it be possible to make something to hide people you block or ignore entirely other than the already existing blocked/ignored list in settings

[placid cape]

hide where?

like in chat?

[valid jetty]

bad latex alternative

[civic oar]

from dms/friends/online/server lists

hide from chat already exist

[atomic brook]

@jade stone If I'm not wrong you're on nix

How tf do you setup vim with proper lsp there if mason can't do shit

I'm thinking about trying nix again

And I don't wanna feel that pain with vim again

[placid cape]

Hm?

Typst is amazing

I love it

[valid jetty]

i know lol that was satire

do you know if nvim has syntax highlighting for it

found one

so good

[hoary sluice]

is there a latex to typst compiler

[valid jetty]

idk

[hoary sluice]

omg there is

https://typst.app/universe/package/mitex/

[placid cape]

oh okay sorry 😅

[fleet cedar]

https://typst.app/universe/package/soviet-matrix/

[valid jetty]

lmao yea i saw that

insane

[placid cape]

you can do anything in typst

[jade stone]

I haven't versioned my configuration under nixvim yet, but you should check it kut

I use nix.d and its olay

[atomic brook]

How are you doing it currently then

[jade stone]

My dotfiles are open source on my github, find nvim.nix and dotfiles/nvim subdir

[atomic brook]

Okay, thanks

[jade stone]

@atomic brook i realized my dotfiles are horror so i wrote a readme.md https://github.com/sadan4/dotfiles#my-dotfiles

[keen spoke]

You can do everything in PowerPoint as well, both are turing complete

[viscid grove]

tom wildenhain reference!??!

[atomic brook]

@jade stone i'm begging you please read https://lazy.folke.io/usage/structuring

espesially this line

[jade stone]

No

I'm going to move away from lazy soon

I'm planning to go to Nixvim

[atomic brook]

anyway, i have a really nice time rn

oh it's up

[jade stone]

are you trying to install nixos somewhere

[atomic brook]

I'm downloading a fucking iso

while my internet sends a message in a 10 seconds

[jade stone]

what is that UI for downloading

why not just use a browser

[atomic brook]

it will take an eternity to download

[jade stone]

?

[atomic brook]

services:
  ariang:
    image: hurlenko/aria2-ariang
    ports:
      - 3030:8080
    volumes:
      - ./Downloads:/aria2/data
      - ./config:/aria2/conf
    environment:
      - PUID=1000
      - PGID=1000
      - EMBED_RPC_SECRET=true
      - RPC_SECRET=nop
      - ARIA2RPCPORT=443
    restart: unless-stopped

[atomic brook]

because my connection is so perfect that the browser will throw an error in a minute

and delete everything it has downloaded

using aria i can at least continue where i was left

[jade stone]

if your connection is that bad, why not just use the CLI installer

its 1/2 the size

[atomic brook]

you don't understand

it can't

I was waiting 10 minutes to download 60mb

and my connection droped a few times

[jade stone]

at that point, just download a lightweight iso

and then install nix on it from there

(nix is easy to install from any ISO (or so ive heard))

[atomic brook]

I still need something to download this

if my connection drops everything i've downloaded thus far will get deleted

so i don't use browser for downloads

accurate

[jade stone]

@atomic brook torrent an arch ISO

arch provides official torrents

[atomic brook]

For this i should download qbittorrent first

also i use aria not just for iso

but for everything i need

[jade stone]

that will be less than an iso

[atomic brook]

it's an iso + qbittorrent

[jade stone]

i feel like a torrent would be more reliable in case your connection drops

[atomic brook]

well

aria has no problem with it

hence most of the websites supports it

i've forgot which header is that

https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/HTTP/Headers/Range

This one i think

[placid cape]

Powerpoint is not good for papers

[keen spoke]

its turing complete buddy

[supple whale]

this single header is the backbone of the entire internet btw

[atomic brook]

Can someone explain how tf when my internet dies I also can't connect to my local network at all

[fleet cedar]

That ip is assigned by your router

If your router is dead, it won't listen

[atomic brook]

yeah but like

my router is kinda alive?

only internet connection is awful

so idk

[spark tiger]

my internet dies whenever i open a game. idfk why or how but this happens. if i try to ping the gateway, it has extremely big ping

[supple whale]

sounds like ya'll have dogass routers

[atomic brook]

dogass isp as well

but yeah, my router is horrible

[supple whale]

isp doesnt impact ur default gateway

:^)

[atomic brook]

it impacts my mental health

[spark tiger]

i mean everything works fine on my phone

so i don’t think it’s router’s issue

[dense sand]

@supple whale still hjaving the problems with the sidebar:

className={`fixed left-0 w-64 -translate-x-[100%] overflow-hidden overflow-x-hidden top-0 h-screen bg-[#151520] shadow-lg border-r-2 border-[#18181B] transition-transform duration-700 z-50 ${
            isOpen && "translate-x-[0%]"
          }`}

this still doesnt work...

its basically what you told me to do lol

[ornate quiver]

i figured out the problems with my flexbox layout in my sleep last night
/srs

[supple whale]

dw, i do that too

taking showers and taking shits also works great for figuring out problems

i have days where i shower 3 times a day

[supple whale]

honestly, i'd need to get chrome debug tools to find the problem, i cba actually using my brain to find the problem

"click and find issue" is easier

if u use vscode yeet me a share instance

[dense sand]

okay

its just that if im not making any other arbitrary mistake

[supple whale]

idk tbf

i dont have the brain capacity to spare rn sorry

i need to focus heavily on my shit rn

[dense sand]

okie

[supple whale]

if u have a live share session, send me a link

and ill take a look

i currently need 18 gazzilion data points, and i'm trying to figure out how the fuck to plot them

[supple whale]

try isOpen && "!translate-x-[0%]"

poor single threaded WASM

utterly useless

[ornate quiver]

https://github.com/rushiiMachine/rushii.dev/commit/eca35624074001903ca587ad9dd80d55e1ced556

nyabom~1

@deep mulch look

im thinking of maybe switching over to webgl
reimplementing this as a shader would be way faster i think

[deep mulch]

soon

[supple whale]

look up vanta

sounds like what u need

[ornate quiver]

oh huh
it is a heavy js lib tho

[supple whale]

well yeah

what you're trying to do is heavy

[ornate quiver]

hm actually kinda not

my badge is bigger than this

[supple whale]

if some1 wants a space heater for the night: https://thaunknown.github.io/wasm-bench/

dont blame me for whatever happens when you open that

[runic sundial]

did you know you can create an instance of an interface using pure java?
imagine the meta programming potential
a super factory builder

[frosty obsidian]

yeah

pretty sure thats how retrofit works

[wraith rose]

I want to code a file server and I need somewhere to host the files what open source s3 bucket can I use?

S3 is the holding thing and ui is seperate

I don't know how I would make the rest but compression and whatnot would likely help

[civic oar]

able to b done.. not able to b done??

[ionic lake]

minio

[fleet cedar]

Just throw it in a regular bucket

No need for fancy s3s

[placid cape]

looks nice

[placid cape]

you can do that using Proxy, can't you?

[runic sundial]

Yees

[placid cape]

i learnt that today

while trying to compile things using graalvm native image

[wraith rose]

What's minio do tho?

[wraith rose]

What's the difference between regular bucket and s3?

[fleet cedar]

One is excellent for holding things like fluids and debris

[wraith rose]

My data is 70 gib tho

Nintendo switch captures take up a lot of data

[fleet cedar]

You can fit many micro sd cards in a bucket

[wraith rose]

?

[fleet cedar]

🪣

[hoary sluice]

@valid jetty do you have a rubber duckie on your desk

@deep mulch @placid cape wbu

[placid cape]

i don't

I have avocado

[deep mulch]

nop

[hoary sluice]

fr?

is it molded

molding

idk the word

[placid cape]

and these

[hoary sluice]

are they from ikea

why is ur entire room green

[supple whale]

in case we have some autists that enjoy data here

thats should greatly satisfy them

JS vs WASM vs WebCrypto for SHA256 for 8B to 10 MiB

[placid cape]

Nope they're from energylandia

I won them

[supple whale]

to get a general idea of just how bad wasm is

[placid cape]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

@hoary sluice

[valid jetty]

i program in bed

my bed currently has a pink blahaj, blue blahaj, and hatsune miku plush

i talk to them

[hoary sluice]

i forgot youre next level degen

[hoary sluice]

giant penguin ball debugging

i think im gonna use my car

[placid cape]

:DDD

[placid cape]

what about a picture? :d

[hoary sluice]

wait theres different colored blahaj???

[fleet cedar]

I thought blahaj was by definition blå

This is an amazing discovery

[valid jetty]

yea this one is pink though

[hoary sluice]

you are the definition of uhm actually

pinkhaj

[valid jetty]

i got it for christmas from a friend

[fleet cedar]

Rosahaj

[valid jetty]

:3

[hoary sluice]

lyserød haj

i might go back to bed progaming

[valid jetty]

@placid cape i successfully got an elle raylib example running on windows xd

[hoary sluice]

esp with the new keyboard it might be comfy now

[placid cape]

who cares about windows xd

but nice job

[hoary sluice]

@valid jetty is ur laptop full of hair and dust

[placid cape]

I should finally finish the parser rewrite but rn I'm in Austria

[hoary sluice]

where

[hoary sluice]

bimblows

[fleet cedar]

I somehow read this as something about rgb blahaj

[placid cape]

tauplitz

[valid jetty]

the command, after spending an hour installing elle, qbe rust and whatever other building deps i needed from wsl

$ ellec examples/graphics/mandelbrot.le --asm && cc -o mandelbrot mandelbrot.s -lelle -l:libraylib.a -I../raylib/include -L/usr/local/lib -lm && ./mandelbrot

[hoary sluice]

skiing?

[fleet cedar]

I don't know how any of those words lined up, but now I want one

[placid cape]

ellep when? Elle package manager

[placid cape]

yea

[hoary sluice]

oh its hallstatt

[valid jetty]

hair sometimes but the macbook keyboard gets dirty so fucking quickly

[hoary sluice]

ive been there

[valid jetty]

maybe i just use it a lot

[hoary sluice]

idk if ive been skiing in hallstatt tho

[valid jetty]

but like i clean it and within a day its already so dirty

[placid cape]

I hope it'll be good

[hoary sluice]

maybe cause its on ur lap

[valid jetty]

why would it being on my lap have anything to do with the keyboard

[hoary sluice]

or on a bedsheet

[placid cape]

We wanted to go to flachau but idk why my parents chose this instead

[valid jetty]

its not like putting the macbook on my desk will magically make my hands emit less oil and make the keyboard cleaner

[hoary sluice]

they usually get really dusty on bedsheets

[valid jetty]

no its not dust

its like

idk

[hoary sluice]

i didn't read the keyboard part

[valid jetty]

lmao

my macbook has no fans

so it inherently doesnt get very dusty

[hoary sluice]

why not zell am see or saalbach hinterglemb where everyone goes

[hoary sluice]

???

how

[valid jetty]

wdym

[hoary sluice]

are arm cpus that op

[valid jetty]

yes..?

[placid cape]

i hope you always fry something after programming

[placid cape]

idk

[valid jetty]

if it gets too hot it throttles

[placid cape]

Maybe next time

[valid jetty]

heat is emitted passively through vents between the display and keyboard

[hoary sluice]

mine operates at 92°C with fans at full throttle

[valid jetty]

i usually use it on low power mode tho because the battery lasts forever

[placid cape]

92°C???

Isn't that a lot?

[valid jetty]

yes lol

[hoary sluice]

probably

[valid jetty]

then again intel cpus could fry an egg

[hoary sluice]

its been running on exactly 92 for over 2 years now

the gpu died

it runs super slow now

[valid jetty]

arm ones are definitely better in that regard otherwise microsoft wouldnt be trying to push arm chips into their laptops so much lmao

[placid cape]

wait 92°C while you're just programming in zed for example?

[hoary sluice]

yes

[valid jetty]

husk

[placid cape]

[valid jetty]

mine sits at like, <30*C

[hoary sluice]

im prob gonna get an arm cpu next

i need a laptop for uni thats not garbage

[austere anchor]

30 times integration constant

[valid jetty]

true

i really want a thinkpad with void linux on it

[hoary sluice]

this one has an i5 1240p and a 2050 and i paid 1200€ for it with legit windows

[valid jetty]

lol

[placid cape]

always buy notebook with amd cpu, not intell

[hoary sluice]

void linux meh

[placid cape]

amd cpus are just better

[valid jetty]

what other options are there for casual use?

fedora maybe

ubuntu ew

[hoary sluice]

i was 15 and didn't know anything abt computers

[valid jetty]

debian slow

so also ew

[hoary sluice]

arch

aur 🥰

[valid jetty]

arch is NOT for casual use

[hoary sluice]

yes it is

[placid cape]

apt nightmare 😭

[valid jetty]

its up there with gentoo

lmao

[hoary sluice]

no arch isnt even hard to use or anything its just good

[placid cape]

I can't imagine using debian as daily drive distro

[valid jetty]

i broke my installation within 2 hours

[placid cape]

and their wiki is amazing

[hoary sluice]

void is arguably harder to use

[hoary sluice]

that too

[placid cape]

what?

it's easy

[valid jetty]

?? void is just like debian but more modern

[placid cape]

void is amazing

[hoary sluice]

i deleted my windows by accident when first installing it

[valid jetty]

lolol

[placid cape]

install gentoo and waste your time by compiling everything

[hoary sluice]

i said arguably to remove any potential blame cause i only used it for 2 weeks and missed the aur but like theres nothing inherently harder about arch than void or fedora

[hoary sluice]

the boot times are amazing

from clicking the power button to display manager opening is less than 2 seconds

[valid jetty]

the power of macos is that i basically never use linux ever unless its for a dedicated usecase (i dont daily drive it) and today i used an apt-based wsl system and still very easily and comfortably navigated my way around and manipulated files because the command apis are basically the same as on my macbook

AND macos looks nice out of the box

im taking macos to my grave

[hoary sluice]

no ur not

macos is too apple for me

[placid cape]

I started using void after I had broken repositories in artix and I had to uninstall some pkgs before doing system upgrade

And before artix I used arch which I broke when I tried to install mysql client from official repos

[valid jetty]

i wonder how hellish nix would become if i got a clean thinkpad and made sure to keep my nix configs as clean as possible

[hoary sluice]

there is a preinstalled app for everything and u have to jump a bunch of hoops to set up a system where u can run downloaded apps

[hoary sluice]

omg i had same issue

[valid jetty]

????? its literally just a flag you enable in settings

what are u talking about

[hoary sluice]

my arch broke 3 times installing mysql

[placid cape]

average arch experience

never install mysql as system pkg

[valid jetty]

the bunch of hoops in question:

[hoary sluice]

yes and when i was trying to install ffmpeg on a friends mac it took me half an hour because of all the protection and there not being a preinstalled package manager; you can rice any system to work fine but id prefer to build up from a minimal system than to debloat a bloated system

[valid jetty]

brew is basically the macos package manager

[hoary sluice]

they fixed it

its not preinstalled and i was not able to install it on his mac

idr why

[valid jetty]

husk

[hoary sluice]

at least its unix

[valid jetty]

yeah

[placid cape]

yea still better than windows

[valid jetty]

me when i ls -la into /usr/bin and cc and gcc are aliases to clang

💔

[hoary sluice]

me when curl is an alias to the powershell networking thingy

[valid jetty]

💔 💔

[placid cape]

f

gn guys gonna sleep

[hoary sluice]

gn

[valid jetty]

gn

my macbook still is very good for cross compilation at least compared to windows

i got a C environment working to develop extensions for my graphing calculator

thats what this is https://github.com/acquitelol/mizu5

[hoary sluice]

i need a snapdragon laptop with a high end amd gpu without a built in keyboard

[valid jetty]

sounds expensive

without a built in keyboard
??? what laptop has no builtin keyboard

[hoary sluice]

me when i get bored during the math exam and watch anime on my calculator:

[valid jetty]

this is not anime

[hoary sluice]

u can use spacers in framework i think

[hoary sluice]

yes it is

gn

[valid jetty]

wait i wanna show you something

loveeeeeeeeeee

search for a github repo straight from the new tab search bar

:3

[hoary sluice]

is that inside ur browser or is it rofi

[valid jetty]

whats rofi

[hoary sluice]

search bar

[valid jetty]

uhh thats the arc search bar but i have this as my search engine https://unduck.link/

[hoary sluice]

sobbing rn

[supple whale]

i fucking lowe powertoys

the fact that microsoft made it

and the start menu ISNT this

[hoary sluice]

it needs to not drop below like 75k or i get margin called

[supple whale]

is laughable

[hoary sluice]

ew windows

[supple whale]

powertoys rocks

[valid jetty]

probably made by the devs who want to actually improve the user experience while the start menu is made by devs who are praying for a promotion and want to give microsoft more money

[austere anchor]

install disable gatekeeper mobileconfig

[valid jetty]

it hasn’t ever really gotten in my way so i didn’t bother to

(yes this is a reference to nvram boot-args amfi_get_out_of_my_way=0x1)

[deep mulch]

@ornate quiver should I make this work for latest android https://github.com/BlueCat300/XposedAppSettings

and make it modern ui

[ornate quiver]

guh??/

[ionic lake]

Nothing

[ornate quiver]

LMAOO

[granite geyser]

wait im so confused 😭

its the same thing on my make

why is it all clang

[deep mulch]

@frosty obsidian can you think of better name for my compose color picker library than compose-color

[frosty obsidian]

i don't think the name is that important

if you don't want something plain you can just use some random word related to color or light

[jade stone]

flow launcher better

[spark tiger]

https://www.raycast.com/

windows version coming soon™️

[serene elk]

their website is something

just casually using 100% of my CPU

[ionic lake]

open source s3

[ionic lake]

i love how i was taking a nap and i misclicked the android reply suggestions suggest

[jade stone]

Guhhhh I think I'm going insane

Chrome DevTools uses the type Acorn.ESTree.Node, but I can't find that type anywhere

TBH I should just give up on type checking and just assume the code is good

[deep mulch]

@ornate quiver this is weird
if i change the saturation slider then change the hue with the color ring it resets the saturation

i feel like this is some state thing im doing wrong

oh ok i fixed by ```

val color by rememberUpdatedState(color)

[placid cape]

Lmao

[placid cape]

t3 fan

Should I use kotlin multiplatform for mobile app?

[ionic lake]

sure but its still somewhat new so there's that

[jade stone]

@deep mulch

[deep mulch]

idk if id call it new

[deep mulch]

are you gonna target ios and android

or desktop

[placid cape]

mainly android and ios

[deep mulch]

id say so

[placid cape]

okay

bcs from what I heard it it's better than flutter

[icy needle]

wait

so qbe has hoisting hmm

tho i still should probably internally hoist functions/structs too for error checking

[deep mulch]

much better

[placid cape]

okay thanks

[dense sand]

Does kmp support mui

[hoary sluice]

nononononono

use rust

🥰

[placid cape]

Any framework?

[valid jetty]

yes it does but not for types that reference other types

although those aren’t global symbols but whatever

you can’t have a ```
type :Bar = { :Foo }
type :Foo = { w, w, w }

but for symbols and functions it really doesn’t matter yeah

i don’t hoist functions in elle, it only goes as far as hoisting the currently compiling function so you can recurse

hoisting everything before compiling their bodies is something i did want to do but didn’t get to

[icy needle]

bruuuuuh

[valid jetty]

oh no dont worry types themselves are hoisted in functions

you just dont have hoisted types between types

i just put all my types at the top as a result

[icy needle]

i'll probably do the same in the codegen

put types first, then globals, then functions

[valid jetty]

you can look at like, a bigger sort of project if you like

to see what a qbe file like that holds

this project is a lexer made in elle https://github.com/acquitelol/ichigo

hang on lemme compile this into ir

[hoary sluice]

rs file
look inside
not rust

[valid jetty]

just so discord shows preview

lol

[valid jetty]

husk

[hoary sluice]

finally

fixed point decimals

[hoary sluice]

@placid cape how do you communicate with your frontend

idk if should switch to http

or ws

or stay on tcp

idk whats best

i need full duplex communication

[fleet cedar]

Suplex communication

[hoary sluice]

rn its just strings send over tcp that are interpreted into commands and then the response is written directly to the client

i should probably get some kind of control and data separation

[placid cape]

You're talking about voice assistant right?

[placid cape]

Yea

[placid cape]

Tcp

ws is just tcp lol

[valid jetty]

i love the ws spec its so interesting

you have a tcp connection to begin with and you send an upgrade connection request through tcp to change protocols

and iirc that request is also a handshake and acts as a validation to the client that the server understands what you want to do

like you send Upgrade: WebSocket and the server must reply with the same thing

if it does then you know its a valid connection and you can start sending data

yeah i was right

[hoary sluice]

rosie you are a professional software architect

[valid jetty]

Use with WebSocket

WebSocket also uses this mechanism to set up a connection with a HTTP server in a compatible way.[2] The WebSocket Protocol has two parts: a handshake to establish the upgraded connection, then the actual data transfer. First, a client requests a WebSocket connection by using the Upgrade: WebSocket and Connection: Upgrade headers, along with a few protocol-specific headers to establish the version being used and set up a handshake. The server, if it supports the protocol, replies with the same Upgrade: WebSocket and Connection: Upgrade headers and completes the handshake.[3] Once the handshake is completed successfully, data transfer begins.

[hoary sluice]

i need ur help

[valid jetty]

hm

[hoary sluice]

i need to send start, stop and cancel commands from client to server, send a response back from server containing either an ack or the voice assistant response and i need the client to be able to dynamically configure the backend by sending config commands, needs to be full duplex idk if tcp is the best for this

[valid jetty]

tcp should be fine

actually

if its an ongoing stream back and forth from the server then a websocket is probably better

because you say start and stop

[dense sand]

i accidently implemented a linked list instead of freelist for my heap allocator

damn

[valid jetty]

so im assuming when you start, data is constantly being sent

in which case a websocket is better i think

[valid jetty]

??? arent those completely different things

or like unrelated

[dense sand]

YES

i have no idea how i did that

lmao

[valid jetty]

a freelist can even be a linked list so idk what youre talking about xd

a freelist is just a links of chunks that you deem "free" and can reuse instead of allocating new memory

it can be whatever data structure you like, including a linked list or array

[hoary sluice]

the backend does the audio recording which is sync and you have to start and stop it

[hoary sluice]

its being sent when i stop

[valid jetty]

do you send over individual bytes or the whole thing at once

[hoary sluice]

individual bytes

[valid jetty]

wha

[hoary sluice]

i also need to be able to cancel the transmission

[valid jetty]

but then what do you mean by sent when you stop

[hoary sluice]

i record on the backend and then send the voice assistant output as individual bytes if the user selected text output

[valid jetty]

thats not what i mean

are you sending bytes one by one as theyre being processed or the whole output at the end

[hoary sluice]

start: start recording, send back ack
stop: stop recording, start processing the recorded audio, send back the response word by word if its from an llm

[valid jetty]

ah

hmmm i think then you would use a websocket

[hoary sluice]

words one by one if its through llm, otherwise the whole output as one "word"

[valid jetty]

i see

[hoary sluice]

do i make a 2nd ws for config

cause if you wait for local deepseek to finish itll be the next week

[valid jetty]

you should just have a binary protocol to detect what kind of information is being sent so no not really

just make the first 4 bytes be the "type" and have an enum on both client and server

or not even 4 bytes it can even be 1 byte

i doubt youre gonna have more than 255 data transmission types

[hoary sluice]

i have 2

text and audio

[valid jetty]

you have 3

text audio and config

[hoary sluice]

4 bytes is u32

[valid jetty]

i know

im saying a single byte

you wont need more than 255 types

but yeah i think thats better than having 2 ws connections

[hoary sluice]

but text audio is from server and config is from client, i feel like client should just have 1 transmission type which is a command

[hoary sluice]

oh

i also need to be able to cancel the transmission

[valid jetty]

either you have a single ws connection with different data transfer types or you have a ws dedicated to sending data and a seperate tcp connection for smaller requests that dont happen as often

[hoary sluice]

if the client sends cancel

[hoary sluice]

the client only has 1 type

[valid jetty]

if its sync how are you planning to do that

coroutines?

[valid jetty]

oh

oh i think i see

client sends config, server sends audio/text

[hoary sluice]

everything is async besides the local recorder, im planning to make a non local recorder for eg having multiple microcontrollers act as microphones

[hoary sluice]

client sends config and start/stop/cancel

but yes

[valid jetty]

so then isnt that 2 types

[hoary sluice]

config is just Config(key, value)

[hoary sluice]

well i can just parse it out

[valid jetty]

lol okay either way if it were me i would have a tcp connection open to send over things like config and signals then a ws to send over and receive individual bytes

[hoary sluice]

youd write the raw command if its start/stop/cancel and "CONFIG(whatever)" if its a config

[valid jetty]

surely thats unnecessary encoding

you can just use a single number to represent that its a config then enc

ok 1 sec

[hoary sluice]

isnt the tcp connection just overhead then cause ws can handle duplex

[hoary sluice]

sure i can do "C key,value" thats just semantics

[valid jetty]

u8 / data type
u32 / key length
u8[key length] / string of key in bytes
u32 / value length
u8[value length] / value of key in bytes

[valid jetty]

sure but i would do it like that because its simpler and the code would be more concise

[hoary sluice]

putting in the length is unneccessary, i dont need that kind of optimization

[valid jetty]

so then how are you gonna determine when a string ends

null terminator?

[hoary sluice]

parsing takes about a second and transcribing takes 2s

[hoary sluice]

rn its newlines

[valid jetty]

ah

[hoary sluice]

cause i just do writeln!

[valid jetty]

i see

do you have validation that the user cant send over custom config to your api and include their own newline to end the key early

(on the server)

[hoary sluice]

i have it with tcp rn u mean i should send the data via ws?

[valid jetty]

i would send the data via ws but less frequent things like config via tcp because its just simpler

[hoary sluice]

its fully local so idc what the user does, the real user clicks radio buttons, if someone wants to hack their own machine so be it

[valid jetty]

lmao ok i guess thats fine then

[hoary sluice]

so client writes to tcp and server writes to ws basically

[valid jetty]

yeah

[hoary sluice]

can you have duplex on 1 tcp conn

[valid jetty]

if you wanna go for ultra optimized you would send both via ws but at that point you might aswell just use protobuf or something because youll have to implement your own binary protocol for sending packets

[hoary sluice]

i was thinking abt using protobuf

[valid jetty]

does it have good rust bindings

[hoary sluice]

but i just wanna get a decent communication going, rn its just parsing strings from tcp

[hoary sluice]

think so

[valid jetty]

fair enough lol

[hoary sluice]

what are the advantages of a ws anyways

i think im gonna make it use only ws

[valid jetty]

https://stackoverflow.com/questions/57966731/using-websocket-over-raw-tcp-even-when-no-web-browser-is-involved-good-idea

[hoary sluice]

its prob better to have 1 socket for both read and write

[frail matrix]

anyone got a plugin I could test on

[hoary sluice]

@valid jetty i started rewriting it to ws and realized that it would probably be correct to use futures instead of tokio stream and now everything is much cleaner cause i can use a BoxStream instead of a Pin<Box<Future<>>>

obviously i couldve made a typealias but it being integrated is much nicer

[valid jetty]

lmao

[placid cape]

Absolutely

[valid jetty]

i think im getting the hang of this typst thing

@hoary sluice hop off latex

get on typst

[hoary sluice]

after this is done ill try it https://github.com/eagely/voice-docs

[placid cape]

it's way faster and provides better dx

[valid jetty]

the function stuff is actually so powerful

but i hate that i spent like 30 mins trying to figure out how to embed variables in code blocks with backticks to find out you can’t and you have to use raw() i had no internet for a little bit so i couldn’t google it

was so annoying

[keen spoke]

Chatgpt

[valid jetty]

??? not only does chatgpt suck at typst because its new but i had no internet lol

i do now at least

@placid cape do you know how to do a fallback file in the yaml function

like i wanna have a yaml("name.yaml") ?? yaml("name.public.yaml") so i can push the source code to github and not dox myself

[placid cape]

what

oh like in typst?

idk

[valid jetty]

yea

[keen spoke]

Works fine for me, consider the garbage in garbage out principle

[valid jetty]

yeah but typst is new

there isnt a lot of training data

[keen spoke]

Typst exists well over two years now

[valid jetty]

still new compared to latex lol

[keen spoke]

Enough for what ive asked it

[keen spoke]

relative, but not absolute

[valid jetty]

it literally spits out incorrect syntax wdym

[keen spoke]

Link?

To chat

[valid jetty]

https://chatgpt.com/share/67c21419-ff7c-8004-bf76-ae8be42a8e5d lmao

all of that is wrong

if let doesnt exist

file doesnt exist

[spark tiger]

[keen spoke]

What is the correct answer

[supple whale]

do any linux users know anything about the status of vulkan on chromium? is it abandoned? im struggling to run chromium via vulkan

there is chrome://flags/#enable-vulkan