🪅-progaming

[royal nymph]

bad..

[thorny prism]

do u like type with 10 fingers?

[valid jetty]

yeah i love my macbook keyboard

@royal nymph i type 140wpm is that good

[thorny prism]

butterfly keyboard is good to type

[dawn ledge]

well 8

[thorny prism]

until somethings gets stuck into it

[dawn ledge]

literally crying

sob

[thorny prism]

thats absolutely crazy

[thorny prism]

yeah ik what u mean

just type ig?

[royal nymph]

meh pretty good ig

[thorny prism]

then u will be better automatically

[royal nymph]

could be better

[thorny prism]

whats ur wpm @royal nymph

[valid jetty]

:3

with time 30 it goes down to around 128

[thorny prism]

man i really like the rose pine theme on monkeytype but on vscode it doesnt look the same 😭

but im going to make it for spicetify first

[valid jetty]

i think i use catpuccin mocha in monkeytype

[thorny prism]

powertoys is really just macos tools in windows lmao

[valid jetty]

i love get info and sneak peek

oh its called quick look

close enough

[thorny prism]

yeah but it creates a black window first so thats kind of annoying

conclusion: linux is better

[valid jetty]

anyway uh

mac keyboards give me a hugeeeeee advantage

like

extreme

[thorny prism]

what mac do u have?

[valid jetty]

i can only do like 100-110 without the mac keyboard

[thorny prism]

butterfly or the ohter one

[valid jetty]

just m1 2020

[thorny prism]

thats the normal keyboard

[valid jetty]

short key travel time >>>>>>>>>>>>>>

[thorny prism]

i have a butterfly keyboard 😭

[thorny prism]

fr

[valid jetty]

idk my macbook is great i love everything about it

except maybe the low storage but thats my fault

[thorny prism]

i have 128 gb :)

[valid jetty]

the constant suffering of picking 256gb

[valid jetty]

HOW DO YOU LIVE WITH THAT

[thorny prism]

its mostly for school tho but when i get money im going to get a lot

[valid jetty]

ah ok

i use mine for basically everything

[thorny prism]

yeah then 128 would be suicide

i use a pc with in total 3128 gb

[valid jetty]

i have a 1tb external ssd but its annoying because it doesnt have a rootfs so most apps dont work because they reference things that dont exist and/or store things in ~/Library on the main ssd anyway so it doesnt even help

[thorny prism]

yeah thats true

[valid jetty]

like for example xcode, if installed on an external ssd, will open once and then never again

[thorny prism]

i wanted to do app dev on my macbook but then i had 10gb left :(

[valid jetty]

and if i install any steam games on that external ssd if i unplug it and plug it back in, it causes my whole mac to stop responding

like finder literally explodes

[thorny prism]

lmao

why would u game on ur macbook tho 😭

[valid jetty]

its useful for storing backups of like, aeps and stuff

[valid jetty]

do you know how good m1 macbooks are for gaming.

people shit on macbooks but any M series macbook is on or above par compared to the average windows laptop in terms of performance

i can run genshin at max graphics with 60fps for at least 30 mins before the macbook overheats

[thorny prism]

i mean thats impressive for a macbook

kinda funny it overheats tho

good or bad?

[valid jetty]

swap out the pastel green

[valid jetty]

yeah it doesnt have any fans so heat exits through the back passively

any newer ones do but mine doesnt lol

[thorny prism]

i just dont use it lmao

okay i give up now spotify just doest render lmao

[valid jetty]

this is my spotify lmao

same color scheme as discord ofc

[thorny prism]

thats pretty cool

i like it but i wont use it cuz im more of a minimalist

[valid jetty]

to me terminals are as minimalistic as it gets

i love terminals theyre so much faster than guis usually

and simpler

[thorny prism]

true

unless u use powershell

powershell is so slow its unbearble

life if windows was unix based and you could install zsh

life if linux was the dominant os

[frosty obsidian]

you can

git bash

[thorny prism]

yeah ig

[dawn ledge]

git bash your head on the desk and switch to linux

[thorny prism]

would if you could play fort

please dont kill me

yay bash on windows :)

now its also in vscode

[autumn sigil]

i am in pain
building my native node module works fine, except on windows.
windows needs you to link to a dll, i can generate the dll for node, thats fine and it works.
but electrons dll doesnt export the same symbols, for example napi_typeof is exported as _napi_typeof so my linker cant find or link to it and it crashes when i link against node and run it under electron

now what do i do? i dont really understand how windows linkers work.. and i want to be able to build for both electron and node, i cant really find electron node headers anyway because their artifacts thing doesnt index
do i have to make some sort of header shim that maps to the correct function?

[valid jetty]

wsl

[thorny prism]

yeah but then its kinda annoying if u wanna play games it hurts performance

[valid jetty]

windows is already far less optimized than macos lol

most companies are moving towards arm-based chips now but macs will continue to dominate because macos is far more optimized than windows

[restive sorrel]

https://0x0.st/XEsr.mp4
Building LFS :33

[thorny prism]

how snapdragon feels after lying on the benchmarks for their x elite

windows has absolutly no change of winning arm in the coming years

anyway how does one fix this

[thorny prism]

why would you build lfs 😭

[restive sorrel]

Why not?

[thorny prism]

uhh

uhhhhhh

[valid jetty]

is image_index initialized

[thorny prism]

good point

[thorny prism]

yes

w8 ill give u the code

discord text limit :(

[valid jetty]

just send like the surrounding 40 lines or so lol

[thorny prism]

also i tried without and with the self., same result

[valid jetty]

maybe (self.image_index || 0 + 1)?

[thorny prism]

uhh the pipe isnt valid in python

[valid jetty]

oh right

[autumn sigil]

python bad language

[valid jetty]

self.image_index or 0

[thorny prism]

ik but the thing is this is basically part of some group and they were like "yeah make it python cuz we use python for the other project" and then i had to

also he made like a whole scratchpad (notepad) in python in 1 file

i asked him to split it so its a bit more organized, he told me "the way i do it is better" and i cannot convince him otherwise (he has barely any programming expiernce)

[valid jetty]

lc.ocr

[visual shell]

image_index = (image_index + 1)
ΑΛΛΛΛΛΛΛΛΛΛ
UnboundLocalError: cannot access local variable 'image_index' where it is not associated with a value

Google Cloud Vision • labsCore • Took 0.45s

[thorny prism]

i mean im not saying im the best progammer or even a good one but pls make it organized

enought rant for now lmao

its the same :(

[valid jetty]

tell him that if he is not accepting constructive criticism then his way is objectively worse because the best solution is one where multiple opinions and possible solutions have been shared

[thorny prism]

yeah

but also some other guy in the group who is apperently a god in programming in his opinion, says he has to split it in multiple files and then he says its a good idea

??

[valid jetty]

god those kind of people really infuriate me lmao

[thorny prism]

yeah hes mostly a pretty okay guy but sometimes he thinks his opinion is the best lmao

even if someone with more experience gives hime some advice

oh i understand the problem so basically it defines a new variable lmao

this is why i dont like python if you make an error it just does something completely stupid

instead of just using let or smth like that

[valid jetty]

"yeah my friend, hes a god at programming hes so good" then you look at his code

inconsistent whitespace, casing, and naming conventions
single letter variable names
no comments even though code on its own is not self documenting
copy pastes code without understanding how it works and/or referencing the source
only knows python (or a single high level language like javascript or lua)
has followed 3 tutorials on youtube on making games in some bloated library
is currently following a programming in python course online for £20 a month

[dusty moth]

WrappedCommandNodeCommandBuilderWrapper<T extends CommandNode<S>, S extends CommandSource>
i fucking love java

[valid jetty]

do u have a vertical monitor

[dusty moth]

no

[valid jetty]

for all the exception stacks

[dusty moth]

square

[valid jetty]

oh

horror

[manic hawk]

u should copy my bio looks more legitimate than ur personal roles there

[dusty moth]

so both vertical and horizontal

[thorny prism]

lmao fr

[manic hawk]

replace new roles with personal

[dusty moth]

i send those to my phone

[thorny prism]

i reallly really really want to switch this program to c# or some better language

[dusty moth]

rewrite it in haskell

[valid jetty]

please 😭

c# is nice for like

quick prototyping

[dusty moth]

or the language I'm writing that supports spaces in variable names

[thorny prism]

what to use then

[valid jetty]

but its garbage collected and i also hate pascal case

[thorny prism]

cuz im kinda over c# but idk what now

[dusty moth]

java

haskell

[valid jetty]

this is gonna sound stereotypical but i would write it in rust

[dusty moth]

rust

[thorny prism]

im about to kms

[valid jetty]

ive written around 15,000 lines of rust code in the past few months and i can say it is so nice to not shoot yourself in the foot as often

[thorny prism]

how i feel after asking in what to rewrite and then the person says "rust"

[valid jetty]

however

no look

yeah i get its stereotypical

[dusty moth]

use haskell then

[thorny prism]

yeah ik rust isnt bad but yeah

[thorny prism]

im not using haskell 😭

[dusty moth]

it's a fun language

[valid jetty]

my other option would be to write it in c# yeah

[dusty moth]

we disallow using variable names with more than one letter

[valid jetty]

but if you can, and know how, use rust

[thorny prism]

whats a good ui lib for rust then

[dusty moth]

egui iirc

heard of it but haven't sued it yet

[valid jetty]

i like iced

and tauri exists too

if you know what nwjs or neutralino or electron for js is

[dusty moth]

i usually shell out to go for bubbletea

[valid jetty]

then tauri is that but the window is rendered in rust

[dusty moth]

how can I make my java classnames longer

[thorny prism]

im not writing anything that has to do with js

[dusty moth]

i need to get them to at least two screen widths by monday

[dusty moth]

the point is that it doesn't have anything to do with js

[valid jetty]

no lol not like that

basically you can render the window via rust and then actually display things on it via html/css/js

[thorny prism]

w8 i thought tauri was basically electron but efficient

[valid jetty]

or react or whatever

[thorny prism]

yeah but doesnt that mean u have to write js?

[valid jetty]

tauri is electron but for rust

[thorny prism]

im not writing js

[valid jetty]

fair enough

if you want native apps you can use iced

[thorny prism]

alr

im totally new to rust tho but itll be easy

[valid jetty]

uhhh maybe not but its fun to learn

if you have a deadline i would not recommend learning it

[thorny prism]

no

[valid jetty]

i would recommend sticking with what you already know

[thorny prism]

nah im open to learn new stuff

[valid jetty]

sure

[thorny prism]

its just a hobby project for a privacy-focused group im apperently part of but im not even in contact with any member except 1

and im not in the github org

also i had to explain git to like the guy i talk to and then he explained it to everyone else so they used no source control whatsoever in their group before i told them abt it

only reason he wanted to use it at all was because git is made by the same guy who made linux lmao

anyway should i use vscode or rustrover

[valid jetty]

i use zed but probably use vscode

[valid jetty]

lmao at least like, do the bare minimum of uploading changed files to github manually through their ui 😭

[thorny prism]

yeah lmao

[thorny prism]

i have zed on windows and idk how it works lmao

[valid jetty]

zed is literally vscode but written in rust

like thats its whole thing

its very fast and i love it

[thorny prism]

how do you install extensions

is it supposed to look like this?

[valid jetty]

cmd+shift+p, extensions, click install on the ines i want

yeah

[thorny prism]

oh okay its basically vscode but no sidebar

[valid jetty]

you can click here to see ur sidebar

[thorny prism]

so its all command palette type of thing

[valid jetty]

no theres a sidebar

[thorny prism]

😭

okay it starts to make sense now

now i feel stupid for not knowing how to use a program

[valid jetty]

u can also ctrl + ` to open a terminal and then cd to the dir u want and run zed . there to open a new window there

[dusty moth]

is there neovim but written in rust

[thorny prism]

alr thx

w8 this hase a proper rose pine theme built in?

amazing

also vim emulation wtf

[valid jetty]

i sort of made my own theme for it based on catpuccin mocha lol

it just has cleaner colors

[ornate quiver]

rustrover is very good

[valid jetty]

oh and a glass background

[ornate quiver]

last time I tried the rust vsc plugin it was really buggy
although that was 2 years ago

[thorny prism]

im kinda using zed rn lmao

[valid jetty]

vsc also eats all my ram so i dont bother with it

[thorny prism]

lmao

u have 8gb?

[valid jetty]

no, 16gb

i had to clarify because that statement could be blown out of proportion as me stating i was under the age to be on discord lol (im not)

you can never be too safe

my one nitpick for zed is that it doesnt have a lot of customization for linters

but thats fine because rust has a set out code structure and formatting anyway so there really isnt anything to configure

[dawn ledge]

shitbrains is lagware

i tried 4 shitbrains prdoucts

all refused to work

vsc is well vsc

i just decided to go with nvim

[valid jetty]

nvim is nice

i have a minimal setup for it

[thorny prism]

isnt it 13? (to be clear i am not saying how old i am in this statement)

[valid jetty]

it is 13

[thorny prism]

yeah

okay so i had to disable vim emulation cuz idk how it works lmao

like ik the basics but there it ends

[valid jetty]

you use vim commands?

lmao fair enough

[thorny prism]

no lmao

but randomly its in view mode and yeah

[valid jetty]

my vim setup

[thorny prism]

okay funny moment zed just dont wanna anymore

[thorny prism]

not the warp term 😭

[thorny prism]

it just crashes on boot

[valid jetty]

god ok better that was driving me insane

[valid jetty]

whats wrong with warp..?

idk i use it because it looks nice

[thorny prism]

not open source :(

idk i just dont really trust it

[valid jetty]

fairsies

[dawn ledge]

idk if i like that bg to fg contrast

[thorny prism]

also an account for a terminal app is criminal thats mostly why i dont trust it

[dawn ledge]

i tried warp on linux once, it looked ass

[valid jetty]

it doesnt let you configure the bg image lmao

[thorny prism]

but i mean if u wanna use it idc lmao

[dawn ledge]

lmao

[thorny prism]

even windows terminal lets you do that lmao

[dawn ledge]

do you really gotta sign up

do they force you

[thorny prism]

yeah

[dawn ledge]

skull

[thorny prism]

fr

[dawn ledge]

also isnt their login screen a webview

i remember seeing that

[thorny prism]

idk i only used it once on linux

[dawn ledge]

some part of the app was/is a webview

[thorny prism]

how do i fix zed tho

[dawn ledge]

and the rest is native gui

[thorny prism]

it just opens a terminal for a split second and then it just crashes

[dawn ledge]

average zed experience

[valid jetty]

i do also have iterm2

[thorny prism]

uhhh

[dawn ledge]

zed could have been better, but like the gui frameworks in rust arent there yet, neither is gpui, you dont get the feel of an actually native app or even an electron app

its unergonomic in many cases

[thorny prism]

idk i barely used it

[valid jetty]

zed runs a lot better on mac than vscode ever did lol

[thorny prism]

it crashes on windows cuz it isnt even officialy supported ig

[valid jetty]

on large codebases like this it would take me several seconds sometimes to edit a single character in vscode

like i have an m1 mac with 16gb of ram if that isnt enough to run a fucking code editor then ??????????????????????????

[dawn ledge]

also like saying "native" gui is bad, raph has a good take on it https://raphlinus.github.io/rust/gui/2022/07/15/next-dozen-guis.html

vscode is jsut crap in general

[valid jetty]

there arent many alternatives tbh

[thorny prism]

everything thats a webview is crap in general

no i don't want "weather" to use 500 mb of ram

[dawn ledge]

start using ed 🙏

[valid jetty]

nvim is nice but when i need to write code fast i would rather not learn a new code editor with different keybinds while also learning new things when writing the code

[thorny prism]

i NEED an invite to big nutty's server 😭

[dawn ledge]

needing 500mb of ram to just display some text is wild

[valid jetty]

i actually did for my neofetch ascii art once lmao

[thorny prism]

jk

[valid jetty]

EXACTLY

usually it used several gbs too

[thorny prism]

yeah

what browser do yall use

[valid jetty]

because its not running a small calculator program anymore

[valid jetty]

im currently using arc but working on switching to firefox or orion

[thorny prism]

if u use ark mby u like zed

its a firefox fork

[valid jetty]

arc is so bad in terms of battery drain and ram usage i dont wanna use it anymore lol

[thorny prism]

i use it rn

peak

@valid jetty how do you run the code

do u have to type the command?

[valid jetty]

cargo run or if you dont have cargo/arent in a cargo project you can rustc main.rs && ./main

yes

[thorny prism]

oh

can u add a run button?

[valid jetty]

i would assume its possible lol

usually people just run the command because once you get used to it, its nicer than a run button because you can control exactly what youre compiling

[thorny prism]

yeah ig

i should do that prob

[valid jetty]

if you have a super long command or multiple steps you can put it into a makefile or .sh file

you may also not have rust installed lol

im not sure if macos comes with it preinstalled

if you dont you can install it https://rustup.rs/

[thorny prism]

im on windows lmao

but i have it

okay so basically im making a software installer (cli, for now) so that aint hard

[valid jetty]

nope that shouldnt be too bad

if you just look up some simple examples, high level stuff like parsing command line arguments is almost the same as something like c# or python

[thorny prism]

uhh

yeah

what is &str and String

what is the difference

@valid jetty

[valid jetty]

String is a string you can pass around and keep in structs as a copy, a &str is a reference to a string slice

you can think of a &str as a string view into a String (if you know that from C) or you can think of it as part of the memory from a String

an &str cant be passed around through structs very easily because it has a lifetime which is a fancy rust thing that makes it "memory safe"

essentially you will be using String a lot more often than &str

[thorny prism]

okay

so i have 2 Strings, how can you like combine them?

i saw push_str but thats only with &str

w8 nvm

push_str is for Strings

yeah

okay but how do you like add an python f string thingy

example: "/apps/{software_name}"

[valid jetty]

let software_name = "foo";
let formatted = format!("/apps/{}", software_name);

format!() returns a String

[thorny prism]

oh okay thx

and now how do you print a string

[valid jetty]

println!("{}", formatted)

[thorny prism]

cuz it erros and my question is way to basic to find answers lmao 😭

oh okay thx

[valid jetty]

wait

that

[thorny prism]

oh okay

[valid jetty]

basically rust has these things like println and dbg and format which are macros that take in a format string

this format string has to be a string literal

im assuming you were just println!(formatted) before

[thorny prism]

yeah

but it errors but give me a sec i might be able to fix it

[valid jetty]

lol sure

[fleet cedar]

fs::metadata(&path)

But you'll want to use PathBuf, not String, for paths

[thorny prism]

oh thanks

idk most of this is just chatgpt

i either follow a tut or use chatgpt and try to understand what it does

if i wanna learn a language

[fleet cedar]

Protip: you can tell chatgpt to speak like a catgirl

[valid jetty]

if you really dont care about performance you can use path.clone() in fs::metadata and you get 2 copies of the same string

which means you dont need to care about immutable and mutable references

[thorny prism]

its fixed now but i gotta use the pathbuf thingy kyucachy told me

[valid jetty]

i mean you dont need to

[thorny prism]

is immutable basically non-editable?

[valid jetty]

yes

[thorny prism]

if i do things i want to do it correctly from the beginning

[valid jetty]

u can have as many immutable references but only 1 mutable

[valid jetty]

it doesnt matter if you use string

[thorny prism]

what is a reference

[valid jetty]

iirc fs::metadata takes impl Into<PathBuf> which string implements

[fleet cedar]

It takes AsRef<Path>

[thorny prism]

😭

what am i reading lmao rust is so complicated

[valid jetty]

basically when you create a variable, the computer has to allocate memory to store that variable's contents right

well, that memory is stored at some address in ram

usually you pass just the value to another function

but by "reference" is passing that address instead of the value itself

[thorny prism]

oh i see

makes sense

[valid jetty]

you can think of it as instead of passing a cake to the function you pass directions to find the cake

[thorny prism]

why does vivaldi go kind of hard

[thorny prism]

yeah i kinda know how memory works

[valid jetty]

lol fair enough

[thorny prism]

i randomly watched a video about pointers once

[valid jetty]

true,,

[valid jetty]

a reference is a pointer btw

[thorny prism]

oh okay

[valid jetty]

its just a fancy pointer with extra restrictions

[thorny prism]

ic

[fleet cedar]

Domesticated pointer

[valid jetty]

yeah

[thorny prism]

w8 is rust high-level?

yeah right?

then what is c#

[valid jetty]

rust is like all of everything all at once

usually its considered low level tho

[valid jetty]

c# is about as high level as oop gets

usually rust can be high level tho

ive written plenty of high level rust code

[thorny prism]

then whats assembly

[valid jetty]

about as low level as it gets lmao

[thorny prism]

oh okay i see

i dont get why they call c# c# if it is a totally different language than c

[fleet cedar]

Same reason why javascript

Piggybacking on something popular

[thorny prism]

javascript is just bad in general

javascript is the downfall of programming

[valid jetty]

rust is a lot more low level than you can see because theres a bunch of abstractions but you can write very low level code with the right knowledge

part of the linux kernel is written in rust

[thorny prism]

yeah i read abt rewriting the linux kernel in rust

[valid jetty]

same reason why ocaml has oop lmao

[thorny prism]

someone should just make a whole os in rust

and then its fast

how do you even compile an os

[valid jetty]

languages try to implement something popular at the time into their language so that it becomes popular too

[valid jetty]

painfully

[thorny prism]

does rust use classes

like c#

[valid jetty]

no but it does have the notion of classes

[thorny prism]

or is that a c# and java thing

oh i see

[valid jetty]

instead of making interfaces like in c# or java you make "traits"

[fleet cedar]

It does not have inheritance, though

Which is what most people mean when they say "objects"

[valid jetty]

a class in rust looks something like

struct Foo {
    a: i32
}

impl Foo {
    pub fn new(a: i32) -> Self {
        Foo { a }
    }

    fn print_a(&self) {
        println!("{}", self.a)
    }
}

fn main() {
    let foo = Foo::new(5);
    foo.print_a();
}

[thorny prism]

uhh slight problem

it seems that "path" is emty in the checker thingy

if i print it before it, it prints it, but in the checker, it just prints nothing

:(

[valid jetty]

hm

[fleet cedar]

Hard to say without seeing more of the code

[thorny prism]

use dirs_next::config_dir;
use std::fs;

fn main() {
    println!("Hello, world!");
    installer("scratchpad".to_string());
}

fn installer(software: String) {
    let mut path: String;
    if let Some(appdata_path) = config_dir() {
        path = appdata_path.to_str().unwrap().to_string();
    } else {
        println!("Could not retrieve the config directory.");
        return;
    }

    path.push_str("\\ravensoftware\\software\\");
    path.push_str(&software);
    println!("Path: {}", path);

    if let Ok(metadata) = fs::metadata(&path) {
        if metadata.is_dir() {
            println!("The path exists and is a directory.");
            println!("Path: {}", path);
        } else {
            println!("The path exists but is not a directory.");
            println!("Path: {}", path);
            fs::create_dir_all(&path).unwrap();
        }
    } else {
        println!("Directory does not exist.");
    }
}

[valid jetty]

its fine because inheritance is always worse than composition (traits 😍)

[fleet cedar]

Yep

I miss traits very much when I'm doing c++ at work

[valid jetty]

wait so line 20 prints it but like, line 25/28 doesnt?

[thorny prism]

yup

[fleet cedar]

So they just print Path: {blank}?

That doesn't make sense

[valid jetty]

i would try to clone path lmao

instead of &path

but that doesnt make sense yeah

[valid jetty]

fyi &software turns it into a &str so you can accept an &str into the function and pass it directly lol

[thorny prism]

w8 i gotta go for a few secsx

secs

[valid jetty]

use dirs_next::config_dir;
use std::fs;

fn main() {
    println!("Hello, world!");
    installer("scratchpad");
}

fn installer(software: &str) {
    let mut path = if let Some(appdata_path) = config_dir() {
        path = appdata_path.to_str().unwrap().to_string()
    } else {
        panic!("Could not retrieve the config directory.");
    }
    
    path.push_str("\\ravensoftware\\software\\");
    path.push_str(software);
    println!("Path: {}", path);

    if let Ok(metadata) = fs::metadata(path.clone()) {
        if metadata.is_dir() {
            println!("The path exists and is a directory.");
            println!("Path: {}", path);
        } else {
            println!("The path exists but is not a directory.");
            println!("Path: {}", path);
            fs::create_dir_all(&path).unwrap();
        }
    } else {
        println!("Directory does not exist.");
    }
}

maybe

[dusty moth]

rate this single line kt class WrappedCommandNodeCommandBuilderWrapperWithRegistry<T: CommandNode<S>, S: CommandSource>(inner: T, override val registryAccess: CommandRegistryAccess): WrappedCommandNodeCommandBuilderWrapper<T, S>(inner), CommandBuilderWrapperWithRegistry<T, S>

[valid jetty]

@deep mulch

[fleet cedar]

Oh, doing kotlin, are we?

[dusty moth]

yep

just a little

[fleet cedar]

Looks better split over multiple lines imo ```kt
class WrappedCommandNodeCommandBuilderWrapperWithRegistry<T: CommandNode<S>, S: CommandSource>(
inner: T,
override val registryAccess: CommandRegistryAccess
):
WrappedCommandNodeCommandBuilderWrapper<T, S>(inner),
CommandBuilderWrapperWithRegistry<S>

[dusty moth]

you can do that?

thought : lists needed to be on the same line

[fleet cedar]

I don't know whether the superclass list allows newlines tbh

But the arguments does

[thorny prism]

i kinda feel like making the app in kotlin now

i always wanted to learn kotlin

anyway it says i have to add a semicolon here?

[dusty moth]

edited because I fucked up superclass structure

[dusty moth]

yep

[thorny prism]

what

why

[fleet cedar]

Yes, let blah = guh; must end with a semicolon

[dusty moth]

that's an if expression; you need the ; to end the let statement

[thorny prism]

oh

[fleet cedar]

Even if the expression ends with a }

[thorny prism]

i see its let

okay that makes kinda sense

[valid jetty]

in rust, if statements are not statements theyre expressions

which means you can assign them to variables

[dusty moth]

also why not expect or let else if you're going to panic

[valid jetty]

let a = if true { 1 } else { 0 }

[dusty moth]

ifs that return unit may be statements

[thorny prism]

how do u fix this lmao

[valid jetty]

uh

[dusty moth]

*path =

[fleet cedar]

Just remove the inner path =

[dusty moth]

oh true

[fleet cedar]

Return the value from the if expression

[thorny prism]

oh okay i see thanks

[valid jetty]

yeah lmao

[dusty moth]

this would not work, saw mut and thought it was a pattern binding (i'm fucking blind)

[thorny prism]

okay it compiles but a slight problem:

it still doesnt print

[valid jetty]

wait @fleet cedar do you know if println consumes the value

i know dbg does

[fleet cedar]

It doesn't

[dusty moth]

nope

[valid jetty]

hm ok

[fleet cedar]

And if it did, you'd get a moved error at compie time

[dusty moth]

Display::fmt takes &self iirc

[fleet cedar]

Not just it being blanked

[valid jetty]

yep

very weird

[thorny prism]

yeah

[dusty moth]

show code that prints it

[thorny prism]

use dirs_next::config_dir;
use std::fs;

fn main() {
    println!("Hello, world!");
    installer("scratchpad");
}

fn installer(software: &str) {
    let mut path = if let Some(appdata_path) = config_dir() {
        appdata_path.to_str().unwrap().to_string()
    } else {
        panic!("Could not retrieve the config directory.");
    };

    path.push_str("\\ravensoftware\\software\\");
    path.push_str(software);
    println!("Path: {}", path);

    if let Ok(metadata) = fs::metadata(path.clone()) {
        if metadata.is_dir() {
            println!("The path exists and is a directory.");
            println!("Path: {}", path);
        } else {
            println!("The path exists but is not a directory.");
            println!("Path: {}", path);
            fs::create_dir_all(&path).unwrap();
        }
    } else {
        println!("Directory does not exist.");
    }
}

[fleet cedar]

You're not like, running on an evil fuse filesystem that kills any process that tries to read it?

[thorny prism]

idk

[fleet cedar]

I think you'd know if you were

[dusty moth]

nothing's printing?

[thorny prism]

line 18 works, line 23 doesnt

[thorny prism]

yup

it should print the path 2 times

[dusty moth]

that's a lie, something's printing

[thorny prism]

i meant from that one line

[dusty moth]

and you've made sure that it does in fact exist

[fleet cedar]

It doesn't print in the does-not-exist case

[valid jetty]

try to dbg!() instead

[thorny prism]

w8 replace println with dbg?

[valid jetty]

kind of

dbg!(&path)

[dusty moth]

where

oh

[fleet cedar]

    } else {
        println!("Directory does not exist.");
    }
``` there is no second print here

[valid jetty]

if the string really is empty itll show [file:line:col] &path = ""

oh lol

[thorny prism]

what

it does?

[valid jetty]

theres no print of the path tho

[thorny prism]

nvm im about to kms

[valid jetty]

😭

[dusty moth]

kill -9 $$

[thorny prism]

okay it works now :D

sorry for wasting yalls time fr

[dusty moth]

thanks for wasting my time

[dawn ledge]

fun fact

you can just println!("Path: {path}")

because yes

[valid jetty]

yes u can but i didnt mention that because those format strings are very limited

like they can only take variables

theyre not like string interpolation where you can put whole expressions like 1+1

[dawn ledge]

atleast you can specify style

{path:#?} {path:?} {path:x}

actually is it 0x or just x for printing numbers in hex

[valid jetty]

i will say its pretty useful when the format string is super complicated

[fleet cedar]

The 0 has no effect if you don't specify a width

[dawn ledge]

oh right

[thorny prism]

peak windows customization

[valid jetty]

lmao

[thorny prism]

(i think i like rose pine)

[valid jetty]

me too

[thorny prism]

also all code blocks in discord are rose pine

[dawn ledge]

rosie pine

[valid jetty]

rosie pine is dark green

[thorny prism]

test```

it dont even have a border anymore

[dawn ledge]

one day i will make a cool ass tui based rice

[thorny prism]

spicetify is actually goated for making themes 2 seperate things (layouts and colors)

wish vencord would do smth like that too

[dawn ledge]

https://rxddit.com/r/unixporn/comments/1fn0q3o/edexuiawesomewm_scifi_scientist_zenbook_rice/ it might be impractical and bloated but its cool

[valid jetty]

me when i forget to save my colors.ini and need to redo it every time

[dawn ledge]

make a tool

[thorny prism]

thats pretty cool ngl

[dawn ledge]

to autosync colors with wallpaper

pywal moment

[thorny prism]

peak

[dawn ledge]

peak

people need to make better light themes

[thorny prism]

that might be the worst opinion of the day

jk

[valid jetty]

rose pine for imhex

[thorny prism]

rose pine for qt

w8 no

:(

[dawn ledge]

i sentence you to

i unironically daily drive light theme on everything i use

shrimply have your damn room lights on man

🙏

[thorny prism]

my eyes

how do i spiler black the spoiler

no way we have rose pine for tmux

[dawn ledge]

i asked nicely

[dawn ledge]

as i said, treat yourself with some ambient light

you aint batman, light your room

[thorny prism]

my ambient light is my gaming pc

rose pine for grub?

i might have to switch to linux

[dawn ledge]

you can use grub with windows tho

can you not

[thorny prism]

whats the point

[dawn ledge]

true

[thorny prism]

they dropped the rose pine duckduckgo theme what

[dawn ledge]

whenever i see duckduckgo being mentioned

my brain just naturally

imagines 3 ducks quacking

[thorny prism]

why 3

[dawn ledge]

oddly specific ikr

even idk why

[thorny prism]

😭

[valid jetty]

mmmmm duckduckgo so good

i love !w !g !gi

[thorny prism]

i might have to switch to linux to continout the customization

which distro tho

[autumn sigil]

i hate this shit and i dont know what im doing wrong

[thorny prism]

i think endeavour os cuz yeah

[thorny prism]

i hate js too :)

[autumn sigil]

i managed to make it link against electrons dll but it still doesnt work

[autumn sigil]

not talking about javascript

[dawn ledge]

hop on arch

just like me fr fr

[thorny prism]

endeavour os

[dawn ledge]

i was gonna do nix but i got stuck on formatting disks with disko

[dawn ledge]

arch reskin

[autumn sigil]

@dawn ledge 🥺

[thorny prism]

i dont want to spend more time installing the os than using the os sorry

[thorny prism]

arch installer lmao

[dawn ledge]

sorry void, the only time i used napi was with rust and it just worked

[autumn sigil]

[dawn ledge]

[autumn sigil]

why is it just windows 😭

fuck dlls

[dawn ledge]

coprosoft dev experience

[autumn sigil]

all of visual studio is just a horrendous mess

they fucked up cpp ecosystem so bad

[thorny prism]

fr

life if you could install c/cpp windows compilers without msvs installer

[autumn sigil]

[autumn sigil]

zig is a c/cpp compiler

[thorny prism]

uhh

idk that

i installed firefox instead of zen so now its all the same color

[dawn ledge]

people be switching browsers faster than js devs changing their frontend tech stack

i dont get the appeal of zen tbh

[nimble bone]

my frontend stack is html, css and js

and some ui lib

or just tailwind

[dawn ledge]

it feels like dotfiles but pre applied

[dawn ledge]

literally every other website

sometimes wasm too

[nimble bone]

the average frontend uses react, nextjs, shadcn, bun, prisma and whatever the new thing is

sad

[thorny prism]

Arc but open source + firefox

Now I need to root my phone for custom material you colors

[autumn sigil]

im so frustrated because i have no idea what im doing wrong

[dawn ledge]

not a fan of arc either

reskinned chromium

i dont see any appeal in browser forks

you either make a new engine or you dont

because like

in the end

the content youre viewing is gonna be rendered by the same ass engine

its gonna be the same in chrome or arc

because its blink

im not getting any perf gains

same with ff and zen

its just gecko

no perf gains

[thorny prism]

Ig

I mean zen looks different

And its kind of optimised tho but not alot

It's just Firefox user js I think

[viscid grove]

by this logic you don't see any appeal in vencord 😱

[thorny prism]

He's a rust user he only cares abt performance

Obviously

[deep mulch]

no

@valid jetty Elle or death

choose

[valid jetty]

i need to figure out how to make structs properly

editing a field in a struct pointer breaks the information stored in the whole struct

for some reason

and you cant pass structs by value into arrays because they break too so, fun

[thorny prism]

now i gotta use vscode instead of zed cuz of arduino :(

[dawn ledge]

literally wrong

vencord isnt forking any browser or software

its patching shit

[viscid grove]

other browsers are a modded fork of chromium/whatever firefox's backend is called

they're just packaged with the open source backend

vencord is a modded version of discord
but it patches discord since discord isn't open source

[fallen nebula]

same, i just use vanilla firefox with extensions and it's great

[deep mulch]

make Elle OOP

[valid jetty]

inheritance is the worst thing to ever exist

[nimble bone]

@valid jetty rewrite Elle in Java

[valid jetty]

done

[nimble bone]

show

[valid jetty]

transient classification ElleCompiler {
    extemporize(source : Ligature) {
      aforementioned.source = source;
    }

    -> Integer dependent invariable void async subroutine compile ? (){
        C:\Standard\System\io\format\print\ln("meow")
    }
}

[deep mulch]

nop

[deep mulch]

Rosie using every possible word

what does extemporize even mean

[mild yoke]

I disagree for this reason. It's not really about the browser engine.

Ideally I have firefox but it's chromium because chromium is very good.

There's quite a lot more to browsers than the engine. I can see the appeal in having some advanced workflow but still using chromium.

[mild yoke]

also who willingly uses gecko engine when you can use chromium?

It's so far behind

[thorny prism]

i cannot believe my eyes just read these words

[mild yoke]

eh?

gecko engine is so bad

[thorny prism]

no

give 1 reason

[mild yoke]

Performance is shit

[thorny prism]

no

i dont feel a difference

i would even say chrome uses more ram

[mild yoke]

Doesn't support some WASM canvas renderers due to an open issue

chrome sandboxes more

[thorny prism]

so you are for google supremacy?

do you really thing such a niche feature is making gecko "an incredably bad engine"

[mild yoke]

also gesture detection varies so I have to rewrite a lot of code that works fine on webkit / chromium does not work on firefox

[mild yoke]

It's not niche, my entire app depends on it. I have to port my PWA to be web native just because firefox has either performance degradations or issues open on their bug tracker that prevent it from working

[lucid trail]

I like the idea of gecko but it’s so much slower than chromium for me

[mild yoke]

first they broke wasmgc, fixed it, then broke part of their canvas library so you still can't use skwasm

[lucid trail]

Maybe manifest v3 will change my mind

[mild yoke]

It's not niche, it literally breaks an entire class of web renderers, thus breaking an entire class of SPAs

[thorny prism]

manifest v3 is an example of why google supremacy is bad

[mild yoke]

fork chromium and remove the requirement

I never said I liked chrome

I like chromium

[thorny prism]

chromium is owned by google

[mild yoke]

I'm aware

[thorny prism]

yeah

that isnt like concerning that a data-stealing company owns the world most popular engine?

i mean yeah its open source

but they still have alot of power with owning that

heck even their competitors use it

[mild yoke]

I don't see the issue in using it

The source is available, the license is permissive, you can just fork if there are things you really don't like.

[thorny prism]

if everyone would use chromium, and no alternatives would exist, then they could just make it closed source

i mean yeah not everyone uses chromium

[mild yoke]

No. It would continue from when the license was changed as a seperate project. If chromium closed source there's enough backing from others to keep it going.

However google would be very stupid to close source chromium, so I don't see that happening

[thorny prism]

okay fair but still you gotta understand that a profit-first company having a monopoly on a browser engine is just not good

[mild yoke]

there's still firefox and webkit

I don't see a problem

[thorny prism]

yeah but you told me to quit using firefox

[mild yoke]

I never told you to quit using firefox.

[thorny prism]

i mean you implied it basically

[mild yoke]

I don't see a problem with how chromium is ran. It's open sourced. If they go closed source, then it will be picked up by other maintainers.

[thorny prism]

manifest v3 then

[mild yoke]

Fork and remove the requirement

carry on

[thorny prism]

i mean yeah sure they can edit it out but 80% of ppl using internet are using chrome

so they have manifest v3

[mild yoke]

I'm not talking about chrome

I'm talking about chromium

very different

[thorny prism]

yeah but still

[mild yoke]

No, not still. You can fork and remove the requirement. It's different.

I don't like chrome. I don't use chrome. Chromium is a fine browser engine.

[frosty obsidian]

i use ungoogled chromium

[thorny prism]

give me 5 minutes im making sure this video is good

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S0ZVPl3rMeU&t=206s

[mild yoke]

Can't watch it right now. To be extra clear, I literally use firefox. I'm just saying that firefox's engine is much worse than chromium.

[balmy lintel]

new "browser" released!
look inside
chromium

[dawn ledge]

youre missing the part where that was my personal opinion

[mild yoke]

same as mine

It's all opinion-rooted, I'm just claiming that them all being a small subset of browser engines isn't inherently a bad thing, particularly when the browser engines are well-built, and maintained under a permissive license.

[ornate quiver]

i think the only one that actually stands out anymore (although kinda unusable rn) is ladybird

[dawn ledge]

actually i lied

i use like 5 fingers

3 on my left 2 on my right

[storm talon]

I use 4 on my left and 3 on my right

[storm talon]

I use zen, it's firefox with a strict user.js

[thorny prism]

Fr I hope it's good

[umbral mirage]

i use microsoft edge

[fleet cedar]

That's just chrome in a paint coat

[umbral mirage]

it has a nice pdf viewer which i really like

u can install any website as a pwa

even websites that haven't configured it

it literally comes preinstalled with windows and fits windows 11's fluent design

[viscid grove]

Can't you also do that with google chrome

[viscid grove]

no
it's a modded version of chromium

[umbral mirage]

don't know, i don't use chrome
but from what i remember you can only install sites that have configured it

maybe that's not true anymore, that's possible

[viscid grove]

I can't find how to install any page with google chrome

wait nvm fouind it

[umbral mirage]

are you sure it's a page that didn't configure it

[viscid grove]

yes

[lavish frigate]

chrome with a coat of paint yes

also more shit on your screen

[viscid grove]

this isn't on chrome
this is more than a coat of paint
it's a (pretty intrusive) mod

vencord is more than a coat of paint for discord

[lavish frigate]

like holy shit leave me alone with all this crap this is not what i wanna see when i open my browser

[umbral mirage]

you just need to disable all of it

[viscid grove]

I didn't say it's good

it's just more than just a paint of coat

[umbral mirage]

i just disabled everything and it's normal

[viscid grove]

and yeah, i'm sure you can disable it quite easily

[lavish frigate]

basically is since chrome has gemini now (though it just takes you to the gemini site which is much better)

[fleet cedar]

I was about to suggest using a browser where you don't need to disable all kinds of shit... but then I remembered firefox also has a lotta shit to disable

[umbral mirage]

i also disabled the copilot stuff

because im not interested in that

[lavish frigate]

atp why not just use a different browser if you have to go out of your way to do all that

[lavish frigate]

in firefox its like 3 clicks

[umbral mirage]

because edge is preinstalled + i like configuring things + it's already saved to my settings and will be synced on other devices

[viscid grove]

that's a terrible argument

[lavish frigate]

every other major browser offers more customisation + they ALL have settings sync

[fleet cedar]

Lots of shit to disable like pocket, that new tab stuff, auto translation, etc

[lavish frigate]

okay i guess

[umbral mirage]

what more customisation

[viscid grove]

Most browsers' customization sucks

only browser with good customization i've found is vivaldi

but it suffers in other areas

[fleet cedar]

Firefox has great customization if you're willing to dig a bit

[lavish frigate]

i dont know enough about chrome but on firefox you can use the userchrome.css to turn your browser into anything, i mean people have already turned their firefox into operagx lol

[umbral mirage]

are you talking about changing the way it looks or in terms of features

[viscid grove]

Oh didn't know firefox had that
that's one of my favorite things about vivaldi

[fleet cedar]

Autoconfig allows you to run arbitrary js in the browser window context

[lavish frigate]

both

[lavish frigate]

https://github.com/Godiesc/firefox-gx

i dont know of any other large firefox mods because i mostly dont care about that

[umbral mirage]

i don't think i've ever seen anyone who actually changed the css of their browser

[viscid grove]

Can you have custom keybinds for firefox?

[fleet cedar]

I used a combination of userchrome and autoconfig to turn my whole firefox transparent

[viscid grove]

also how do i stop firefox's auto updater from popping up with an administrator confirm thing every time i open it :(

[fleet cedar]

And another autoconfig module that adds basic vim-like keybindings

[umbral mirage]

are you on windows

[lavish frigate]

apparently yes using autoconfigs but i have not tested it at all

[fleet cedar]

Linux

[fallen nebula]

Gecko is way better than chromium what are you saying ???
Most things just work better on it for me
Also Firefox support the far superior MV2 which Chrome dropped
And the sheer fact i can use this to have extensions to debloat websites and web apps is enough to compensate what perf drop would exist

[viscid grove]

does firefox not have tab grouping :(

that's one of my favorite features in google chrome

[fleet cedar]

What exactly does tab grouping entail?

There are extensions for tab trees, but I don't know if that's what you mean

[fallen nebula]

wdym tab grouping
i have 700+ tabs open and i just manage them by order
they are a stack and the deeper i go the older it is

[fallen nebula]

also just vote for the idea
https://connect.mozilla.org/t5/ideas/native-tab-grouping-more-customizable-tab-bar/idi-p/303

and this exist
https://addons.mozilla.org/addon/simple-tab-groups

[dusty moth]

sidebery

[autumn sigil]

programming infested with browser war brainrot

[nimble bone]

@autumn sigil uses Internet Explorer 9

[umbral mirage]

the only times i use tab grouping is when i click it by accident 😭

[cursive obsidian]

before i switched to ff i used tab groups on chrome

i installed tree tabs in ff but its basically left to rot. havne't bothered to check out tab groups

[fleet cedar]

I use https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/tree-style-tab/ and I like it

[ornate quiver]

reenable the Firefox updater/elevator service

[fallen nebula]

https://addons.mozilla.org/addon/tree-style-tab

Mmmmmhh

Look like smth that could be useful

Tho i like my 700tabs stack

[dawn ledge]

arc vibes

[lime sorrel]

arc has no auto groups

[valid jetty]

hey guys how are the ergonomics of this

[frosty obsidian]

looks neat

[thorny prism]

looks epic ngl

[fleet cedar]

Not a fan of that Tuple { first = ..., second = ... } syntax. I'm more of a (..., ...) kind of person

[valid jetty]

that's because tuples aren't a primary language construct they're just a normal struct lol

[frosty obsidian]

i assume you're probably gonna have shorthands at some point

[cedar thicket]

so I can't code and would like a vencord plugin made, does anyone here take commissions? Hope i'm not in the wrong place and that this isn't against the rules

[dusty moth]

describe

and change your banner if you wish to remain here

[thorny prism]

what kind of plugin?

[royal nymph]

their banner is fine

[cedar thicket]

dude what the heck theres nothhing blatnatly nsfw about my banner

[royal nymph]

don't look at it if you don't like it

[cedar thicket]

ill just look elsewhere sorry for posting here

[nimble bone]

we don't moderate profiles unless it's very nazi and stuff

[nimble bone]

no you're good
nothing wrong with ur banner

[viscid grove]

why does discord's dev tools keep turning white?

(spoilered bc bright)

[formal belfry]

It's a electron issue. https://github.com/electron/electron/issues/43367

[viscid grove]

ah

[thorny prism]

why is making a shortcut in c# so compicated

i have like 50 lines of import things (idk) instead of just making a nuget package lmao

[austere idol]

||you can make one||

[fleet cedar]

/run ```py
print("just checking which bot does this")

[rugged berry]

Here is your py(3.10.0) output @fleet cedar

just checking which bot does this

[whole cove]

a

[dusty moth]

do I push

[autumn sigil]

[dusty moth]

all the languages

[autumn sigil]

via twitter

[dusty moth]

yes

it sends a tweet with the command then a bot replies with the command's output (and next prompt)

only 6 testcases are failing tho

need to get that number higher

[valid jetty]

what does like "complete" syntax for this language look like

[dusty moth]

that is the complete syntax as of now

only let statements are implemented

(and types / [block] expressions)

[valid jetty]

surely you have some bnf or lex file to describe it formally

maybe not idk

[dusty moth]

grammar.js

[valid jetty]

show

[dusty moth]

lemme push

[dusty moth]

edited

[valid jetty]

hmm i sees

[deep mulch]

is there anyone here who can figure out how to get mpv cross compiling working for Linux windows and Android

https://github.com/mpv-android/mpv-android/tree/master/buildscripts these work for Android but I can't figure out how to modify to make other platforms

actually, if someone is able to help me fully make what Ive been trying to for 6 months I'm willing to pay

[ornate quiver]

where's your repo

@deep mulch

nvm https://github.com/zt64/mpv-kt

[ornate quiver]

from what source platform

so Linux -> android
linux -> Linux
linux -> windows?

macos isn't cross compilable tldr

[deep mulch]

I might could use macos runner for them all couldn't i

[deep mulch]

I haven't pushed in a while

[dusty moth]

macos is 10x minute consumption

[deep mulch]

guhh

[ornate quiver]

push

[deep mulch]

I'm at work

3 more hours

[dawn ledge]

simply start using light mode

never had a problem

[viscid grove]

simply blind yourself

[deep mulch]

done

I pushed everything no time to shift through

[dawn ledge]

okay people

gotta apologize

contrary to my previous shitting

i might jsut start using zen

[cerulean plover]

previous shitting

[dawn ledge]

aight nvm

just raw ff it is

[cerulean plover]

what happened

[dawn ledge]

didnt like how the home page took 2 sec to go from dark to light mode

can tell how light mode a11y isnt a priority

🙏

[cerulean plover]

let me guess

css transition on it

[dawn ledge]

i think

[cerulean plover]

nop

well

not their website

[dawn ledge]

realistically you should set your theme class before page load

[cerulean plover]

what do you mean

[dawn ledge]

they do it afterwards

[cerulean plover]

ideally you should not set a theme class at all

[dawn ledge]

yeah

just have light mode

gotta love 28 mb gif

ong the compression

jeez

[cerulean plover]

default to light mode, use media queries to set to dark mode

why would you ever use gif for this

[dawn ledge]

until you have a manual toggle

[cerulean plover]

yes

[fleet cedar]

Why would you

[south moon]

can someone help me setting up a forgejo instance and venbot on oracle cloud for free later (i’m not asking to ask, i just need help from a person, possibile in vc, even without mic)

[royal nymph]

why venbot 😭

u guys are insane

[nimble bone]

tbh venbot is nice bot to selfhost if u fix some hardcoded stuff

[cerulean plover]

vh

[elder yarrow]

Support Commands

​ faq ​ ​ ​Get an answer from the FAQ
support ​ ​ ​Query a support tag
notsupport ​ ​ ​Create a graphic guiding people to the correct channel (usually support)

Use vhelp <command> for more information on a specific command!

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[cerulean plover]

i forgot there were that many features now

[nimble bone]

vfjd?

[elder yarrow]

No

[nimble bone]

best feature

[severe python]

i finished making the vencord icon lol

[dawn ledge]

trademark infringement

actually what is the icon licensed under

[severe python]

vencord is licnesed as gpl so i can do whatever i want with the logo

[dawn ledge]

vencord the software

isnt the same as the vencord logo the artwork

you dont license art as source code licenses

well ig you could do it for svgs, but why

[severe python]

i don't really know what the vencord logo is licensed as

but its probably just free anyway

[dawn ledge]

they cant dmca you if they dont know

[cerulean plover]

pretty sure this isnt how branding works everywhere but there have been instances of vencord logo redesigns being hosted in icon packs

[dawn ledge]

im gonna host you in shiggy pack

[cerulean plover]

what

what is shiggy pack

[severe python]

oh