🪅-progaming

[fleet cedar]

The popular one is serenity

[lavish frigate]

yep

serenity is better

[thorny prism]

i searched on the crates website for discord lmao

crates.io

[lavish frigate]

just use google

[thorny prism]

okay

[lavish frigate]

😨

[lavish frigate]

I LOVE THE WIN32 API!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[hushed pebble]

buh

is this some arcane calculus homework

I see "abs" and "rel"

for absolute and relative maxima/minima?

[frosty obsidian]

that's algebra at best

its ranges

probably doing graphs

at least i think

idk

[hushed pebble]

I can't read that

WAIT

WTF

ARE THE BRACKETS BACKWARDS

oh my god I see it now

[frosty obsidian]

i recognized the union symbol

[hushed pebble]

a: 1. [-infinity, -5] union [-1, 4]
   2. [-5, -1] union [4, +infinity]

[hushed pebble]

WHY ARE THE BRACKETS BACKWARDS 😭

[frosty obsidian]

no idea

[hushed pebble]

WHY ARE THEY BACKWARDS 😭

[dusty moth]

used in some areas to indicate open ranges iirc

[hushed pebble]

EUGH

I hate that they're backwards

[ornate quiver]

we use parentheses to indicate open range

[final night]

I remember something about that

[ornate quiver]

[0,inf)

[hushed pebble]

same

[still jolt]

<0, inf)

[hushed pebble]

whar

[still jolt]

poland probably being weird

[final night]

Math teachers get weird

I was taught to use the 3 types to just add clarity in nested brackets

[hushed pebble]

there are three types???

[final night]

Similar to the vscode bracket color plugin, but shapes

[hushed pebble]

There are three types of interval notation?

[final night]

Im just talking about how i was taught to use different brackets

[final night]

([{([])}])

[still jolt]

I was taught to do ( and [ when nesting

[hushed pebble]

or do you mean x + 3{y^2 - x[1 - 4y^4]} + z?

[still jolt]

never did it

[hushed pebble]

I don't bother with those

[final night]

Yop

I was taught to do that

[hushed pebble]

Yeah I don't do that

I'm used to nested parens

[final night]

All their math context is kinda gone for me
[Matrixes]
{Piecewise Notation}
|Math.abs or something with solving integrals|
(Everything else)

That's what I remember

[hushed pebble]

{} for sets too methinks

something with solving integrals
???

[final night]

I don't know

My brain told me it was right

[hushed pebble]

are you thinking of integral 1/x dx = ln |x| + C?

[final night]

No

[hushed pebble]

yeah I'm confused

[final night]

So am I

[hushed pebble]

this is something I don't know

[final night]

I have no idea how I got a 5 on ap calculus

[hushed pebble]

AB or BC?

[final night]

When I remember literally none of it

[final night]

Ab

[hushed pebble]

hehe same :3

uh

wait no

I do remember the content

[final night]

Im not a physco

[hushed pebble]

but same score :3

[hushed pebble]

uh no I have BC this year

[final night]

I chose statistics instead

[hushed pebble]

and APUSH, AP Lang, AP CSP, and AP Physics C Mech

[hushed pebble]

EWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW

EUGH

SO BORING

STUPID CALCULATOR PUNCHING

I took stats as a college class

boooring!

[final night]

Ap stats helped me understand concepts I needed for ds&a

[hushed pebble]

DS&A?

Data science and...

analysis?

[final night]

Otherwise it was writing programs to solve all the formats seen on the ap test

[hushed pebble]

wdym

[final night]

Algorithms

[hushed pebble]

Oh

Data structures

wait wtf

[final night]

Basically just a precursor to machine learning

[hushed pebble]

what does stats have to do with th

[hushed pebble]

Data science or structures?

[final night]

Data structures and algorithms

[hushed pebble]

how are hash maps and such related to ML

[final night]

Anyways it was just the shit name my high school gave to machine learning

I learned hash maps in ap compsci the years before

[hushed pebble]

buh

[final night]

I wonder if I would've been happier if I went to college
Or lockheed didn't scale down their program that I was fucking accepted into until COVID

Now I'm a fucking web dev

[lavish frigate]

it feels cool when the entire screen is full of code

[hushed pebble]

sadness

[hushed pebble]

nyatop

[lavish frigate]

nyatop

[still jolt]

if there's a laptop is there a lapbottom

[hushed pebble]

yeah its me

[lavish frigate]

the chair yes

or whateveryou are sitting on

[still jolt]

I don't see you anywhere near my lap

[hushed pebble]

you can make it happen tho!

[still jolt]

hop on poland

[hushed pebble]

:3

[still jolt]

ask the vencordian that's been at my house for my address

shrimple, really

[lavish frigate]

here you go

[still jolt]

your drawing skills are still better than mine

yeah, that makes sense

[lavish frigate]

im drawing with a mouse in pdn

[still jolt]

I usually draw with a mouse in gimp

[lavish frigate]

gimp 😭

[still jolt]

pdn isn't on linux :(

also too used to gimp

[thorny prism]

cuz of math

open range like the ppl said

[thorny prism]

yeah

its a basic excersize in 5th year belgium high school

[hushed pebble]

weirdo!

[hushed pebble]

your high schools have five years???

[thorny prism]

no 6

u first have 4 years of preschool thing

then 6 years of idk

then 6 years of high school

but the grade like begin again if u enter high school

so rn im in grade 5

[hushed pebble]

buh

[tender loom]

quick question to anyone who would know, the Toasts.Type has a CUSTOM value, and i cant find anything that has actually used it. Does anyone know how it works, or if it works at all?

[lavish frigate]

oh my god gtk4 kinda sucks because it wants to be fully compatible with EVERYTHING meaning there is no window move function and not even an always on top option... some linux wms dont implement it so it just gets scrapped completely (less than 0.00000001% of all users use those wms)

[cerulean plover]

gnome moment

[royal nymph]

tbf always on top should indeed be implemented by the wm

gnome has it

[lavish frigate]

wayland wayland wayland

i dont get why gtk4 doesnt implement "try_move" or "try_always_on_top" or something

which tries to do it anyway and just doesnt do anything on wayland i guess

incredibly annoying making a windows only app with this

[fleet cedar]

Gtk4 is for gnome internal use only 💀

[lavish frigate]

wait actually

[fleet cedar]

Not officially

But it's clear that that's what it's designed for

[lavish frigate]

can someone PLEASE tell me why something for gnome internal use only has the best way to make windows native apps ??????????????

or am i getting extremely consfused rn

[woven mesa]

you should use adwaita swift

[lavish frigate]

im not using swift

[royal nymph]

I mean gtk is mostly targeted at linux 😭

and yeah wayland changes how windowing works

apps lose a lot of control for better security

[lavish frigate]

im making this in 100% safe rust

[royal nymph]

for example you only get keystrokes if your window is focused

[fleet cedar]

Ouch, gtk in rust is unpleasant

[royal nymph]

but that makes wayland have some limitations too

[lavish frigate]

...is there at least a way to request users permission for that

[royal nymph]

i used gtk in go and it was pretty nice

[royal nymph]

no

[lavish frigate]

there is nothing else to use 😭

[lavish frigate]

wtf..

[royal nymph]

they're working on a keybind api

or you can run the program as root

[woven mesa]

this is literally gtk with swift

[lavish frigate]

DISCLAIMER IM NOT GOING TO USE WEBUI IM HEAVILY RELYING ON THE WIN32 API FOR THIS

[lavish frigate]

ah

[royal nymph]

you will use webui and you will like it

tauri now

[lavish frigate]

no.

[cerulean plover]

wayland doesnt and unfortunately cant fix how apps shouldn't be able to set a specific size

it is ONLY questionably coded AAA video games that do this btw

[lavish frigate]

why should apps not be allowed to set a specific size and position

[cerulean plover]

position and fixed size should be something that requires permission

[lavish frigate]

im not making a normal app though

its expected that the app sets size and position itself

and you can configure both size and position in the settings

[cerulean plover]

its only video games that bother me

[lavish frigate]

not all apps are regular windows

[cerulean plover]

yeah, that actually makes some sense if its an overlay of some kind

[lavish frigate]

yes it is an overlay

saying "apps shouldnt set their own size and position" is just stupid there are enough valid use cases

or there should be some api that covers those cases

overlay api or whatever

[cerulean plover]

yes there should be a dedicated overlay api

because always on top doesnt work for fullscreen

[dawn ledge]

what do you expect from a framework that is built by gnome

[dawn ledge]

please get adwaita outta here

it looks horrendous

wanna be macos

ngl gnome is just wannabe macos

[dawn ledge]

iced? xilem? egui?

there are so many options

[dawn ledge]

because thats how the wayland protocol is, the protocol implementation (i.e the compositor + window manager) handles placing windows (this is also the reason why you see 50 tiling wayland compositors/wms)

[dawn ledge]

there's a protocol for overlays

and you can set size + position for those

[lavish frigate]

idk

[dawn ledge]

https://wayland.app/protocols/wlr-layer-shell-unstable-v1

[lavish frigate]

i dont believe in those i think

actually i did try iced but couldnt figure it out at all

[lavish frigate]

oh... smh

[dawn ledge]

this is what eww/ags and other widget libraries work on wayland

[lavish frigate]

not for windows !!

[dawn ledge]

oh did the convo switch to windows

sorry i'm dumb

(ignore me)

[lavish frigate]

nop

its just

windows problems i guess

if you want to make a one-fits-all framework all os'es and their de/wms need to support it

and with the permission mess on some and the api mess on others there is no one way to make an overlay then

[dawn ledge]

i guess you can hack in overlays on windows by pin on top

🤔

how do pip windows work on windows

[lavish frigate]

yea

thats how they work

undecorated window with always on top

and thats what im doing rn and thats why im missing always on top from gtk4

[dawn ledge]

😭

[lavish frigate]

but oh well i hacked it in

[dawn ledge]

why do they not have an official api for this

overlays arent a new thing for all i know

lol

[lavish frigate]

wrong one but whatever

[dawn ledge]

hop off gtk, make your own framework

[lavish frigate]

there

[dawn ledge]

society if i could understand how to render a fucking curve on the gpu (we'd the the best rust gui crate)

[lavish frigate]

i tried to learn volkano-rs but damn does it have a ton of boilerplate

[woven mesa]

lmao

[dawn ledge]

i mean its true

[woven mesa]

true

[dawn ledge]

raaaaaaah wgpu on top

[lavish frigate]

bonus is this function doesnt suffer from whatever shit gtk3 is doing to the position

if your window doesnt fit neatly into the screen it just gives up

and if you set the position to low or to high or whatever it snaps to the borders

annoying

[dawn ledge]

if youre making a windows only app then why not directly use win api in rust (windows-rs?)

[lavish frigate]

i am

i just want an easy way to style and make more ui components

[dawn ledge]

oh

[lavish frigate]

so i dont want to write the entire thing with raw win32 api

[lavish frigate]

these unsafes come from calling win32 api functions

[dawn ledge]

i mean you could also spend 500 hours using the windows ui components from rust :^)

[dawn ledge]

like this guy https://github.com/robmikh/minesweeper-rs

[lavish frigate]

😭

nty

[royal nymph]

average

[lavish frigate]

literally you smh

[still jolt]

you should relate to that ​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​

[calm ruin]

do you want to remember that one pr which hasnt been merged since 2022

[serene elk]

what if

it suddenly

gets

closed

no one will ever know

[calm ruin]

I will know

[cerulean plover]

LITERALLY

[deep mulch]

@calm ruin we should steal vees account login and merge every pr

[calm ruin]

soon

[thorny prism]

guys is it bad having littarly 0 achievements

[deep mulch]

isn't there a Firefox extension that makes your new tab like show GitHub feed and RSS feeds and it's customizable

I wanna find

[thorny prism]

yeah

[deep mulch]

insane

[thorny prism]

what do u think of c# btw

[thorny prism]

how c# feels after making it inpossible to use foreach() in the thingy so u have to make it empty to make outside the thingy and then scream at you for making it emtpy

[royal nymph]

what?

[thorny prism]

it was me being stupid

but it finally works

it now scans all files in a directory and based on that it will make those options in a discord bot slash command

u can even edit the token and scandirecotry via an appsettings.json

revolutionary ikr

[lavish frigate]

discord bot in c#

but wouldnt it be easier to just map

/ linq (c# is horrible)

var options = accountFiles.ToList().ConvertAll<DiscordApplicationCommandOptionChoice>(file => new DiscordApplicationCommandOptionChoice(file, file));

or something

idk c#

actually

[ornate quiver]

why aren't you using linq

this can be a one liner

[lavish frigate]

even php has map..

[thorny prism]

cuz i suck at c# and idk linq lmao

linq is sql and idk sql at all

[ornate quiver]

no there's extension methods for linq

which is the better way to use it

[thorny prism]

hmm okay ill try it but first i gotta fix the embed

[thorny prism]

thx

[lavish frigate]

not sure if that works btw

the last time i did c# was about a year ago

[thorny prism]

yeah ill test it

[lavish frigate]

using winforms

[thorny prism]

isnt that like the oldest one 😭

[lavish frigate]

that is an old native ui framework for windows yes

[thorny prism]

yea

tbh .net naming is stupid asf cuz u got like .net which is only windows and .net core which is on windows and macos and linux

[ornate quiver]

it was .net framework that was windows only

[thorny prism]

yeah

[lavish frigate]

and thats why you just stop with microsoft java and move on to better languages like ts and rust

[thorny prism]

uhh

maybe

but c# is still cool

okay i might switch to ts

cuz there are like 0 usable docs on an embed in discatsharp

i even downloaded webstorm just in case

is it good

[royal nymph]

no

use vscode

[thorny prism]

oh

uhh

ok

[royal nymph]

well it's subjective so it's up to you

but most people use vscode for js/ts

webstorm is kinda clunky

[ornate quiver]

i use webstorm
even though it saps my entire memory

[thorny prism]

im not used to vscode and i use jetbrains for like everything

cuz i got used to it cuz visual studio sucks for c#

and i like the ui

but ill try vscode

[formal belfry]

VSCode's great

[thorny prism]

ig i only used it for arduino and they depracated the extension

common microsoft L

[dusty moth]

idk i just use neovim for everything, including kotlin

[thorny prism]

[lavish frigate]

the problem with not vscode for js/ts is that the js/ts eco system (being the most popular languages) evolves at a MUCH faster pace than other languages, thus jetbrains and its plugins quickly become outdated because developers prefer writing extension/language support for the most popular code editor (vscode) only to save on time

[dusty moth]

dw I'm going to set up LSPs someday

[thorny prism]

yeah i see

i even made my own vscode extension btw

if u have a touchbar macbook pro download it :)

(littarly no one does except for me)

[autumn sigil]

i hate node-gyp

[thorny prism]

lol

[formal belfry]

lol

[thorny prism]

ok let me try ts

btw @lavish frigate is it okay to just not have npm installed and use pnpm for everythign

[autumn sigil]

npm comes with node

[thorny prism]

i disabled it

[lavish frigate]

why

[thorny prism]

no idea

whats the difference between tracked git file.s

[formal belfry]

With what, untracked ones?

[thorny prism]

yea

[formal belfry]

Tracked files are monitored for changes and are committed in your repo, while untracked files aren't, they just are in your workspace if I'm correct

[thorny prism]

oh okay

[formal belfry]

Pretty sure Chloe can give a better definition but I think it's pretty much it

[thorny prism]

intellisense errors this but when i run it it works

[formal belfry]

What does the error say?

Btw since you're using ts, you can pretty much use es6 imports

[thorny prism]

Cannot find name 'require'. Do you need to install type definitions for node? Try npm i --save-dev @types/node.

[formal belfry]

Ah yeah, use es6 imports instead

[thorny prism]

no idea what that is

[formal belfry]

Example: import { Stuff } from 'thingies';

With discord, you can do import { Client, Events, GatewayIntentBits } from 'discord.js'; and use those in your code

[thorny prism]

oh yeah thx

[formal belfry]

Same with your config.json file normally

[thorny prism]

it didnt error after i fixed the first one but i did it anyway

yeah this is fine

okay until now js is pretty cool

ts

whatever ts is js with extra steps anyway

[formal belfry]

TS is chill like that

[formal belfry]

It's pretty much just typed javascript

[thorny prism]

thats kind of crazy

[royal nymph]

it literally tells u how to fix it

[thorny prism]

no npm 🤫

[royal nymph]

???

[thorny prism]

i dont have npm installed

[royal nymph]

then install it bruh

[thorny prism]

perhaps

[royal nymph]

hmm yes let me just use nodejs without package manager

[formal belfry]

Pretty sure you can install @types/whatevershityouwant with everything anyway

[thorny prism]

pnpm

[royal nymph]

then u install with pnpm...

pnpm i --save-dev @types/node

[formal belfry]

^

[thorny prism]

im kind of stupid

its fixed anyway

[formal belfry]

Nice job

[thorny prism]

i think its time to let go of the extension

[formal belfry]

True

[autumn sigil]

nice! i cannot use electron 32 because it updates v8 to 12.8 which requires nan to make breaking changes but they dont wanna do that because of backwards compat!
and since nan only really cares about node this will not get done any time soon

is it really time to switch to zig for native modules? i guess so!

[fleet cedar]

I don't think my nan cares much about js runtimes

[royal nymph]

wtf is nan

not a number???

[autumn sigil]

Native Abstractions for Node.js

[autumn sigil]

this doesnt really help me either tho since i still need zlib sync xd

and im not rewriting that

actually it doesnt look that bad

[thorny prism]

is this peak typescript?

bruh it still dont work

[fleet cedar]

Contains an any so no

[thorny prism]

was ironically lmao

[lavish frigate]

mfw Arc<Mutex<Option<&(dyn Any + Send + Sync)>>>

[thorny prism]

man i keep forgetting important stuff

like irl :(

not in ts

cuz it isnt even working but ok

ill just find a boilerplate

[formal belfry]

My type

[umbral mirage]

what are you making

[thorny prism]

dc bot

[umbral mirage]

no shit

[thorny prism]

but like even just nothing but a basic project and it already throws errors

[umbral mirage]

what's wrong now

i've done too many discord bots

[thorny prism]

give me a moment i have to set up everything again on my macbook

btw do u guys use npm or pnpm

[umbral mirage]

i use npm but that's only because i barely know pnpm, i might like it better if i use it for anything other than building vencord

[thorny prism]

oh okay

[umbral mirage]

but like

what discord bot are you trying to make

[lavish frigate]

"barely know pnpm" you are only gonna type pnpm i pnpm i (package) maybe pnpm rm and pnpm run anyway there is not much to know 😭

and its the same on both package managers

[autumn sigil]

pnpm offers a lot more functionality + its just faster

[lavish frigate]

bun is the future.

[umbral mirage]

bun is definitely the future

but i won't use it yet

[thorny prism]

js development is so funny cuz they keep on making things lmao

[umbral mirage]

https://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/standards_2x.png

[thorny prism]

basically

[umbral mirage]

well i gtg, good luck with your bot

[thorny prism]

bye

imma use bun

[autumn sigil]

im having fun

[hushed pebble]

wtf

[thorny prism]

it erros in vscode but if i run it it works

[fleet cedar]

Inaccurate type definitions will do that

[thorny prism]

oh but it doesnt throw an error while urnning

i switched to js

[fleet cedar]

Yes, if your type definitions are inaccurate you might get type errors even though the code works

[thorny prism]

oh okay

but the guide is in normal js so yeah

[lavish frigate]

ts turns into js to run, js has no types
if you have ts type errors they can be ignored by the compiler and your code will still compile to js (js which then doesnt have the types will run normally)

[thorny prism]

bun doesnt create js files so it doenst recognise them

the code

and if i change it to search for ts files it just creates an error

okay it works now

:)

[royal nymph]

because Client has no property called commands

you can add it, js allows that, but if you want ts to know that you have to update the types

or use OOP

but this will have incorrect type for msg.client soo

class MyClient extends Client {
    commands = new Collection<string, Command>();
}

const client = new MyClient();

best to just have commands as a global variable that is exported so you can import it anywhere

[dawn ledge]

when it gets good

[dawn ledge]

some people are paid for this

[thorny prism]

oh okay but i switched to js

cuz there wasnt rlly a reason to use ts

[lavish frigate]

there always is

of course you can live your whole life without ts

but ts only reason is type safety

and type safety is an insanely good reason

[dawn ledge]

the s in ts stands for safety, thats why they call it typescript instead of typesafety

[blazing haven]

the t in ts stands for testosterone

[lavish frigate]

ts actually stands for technical slaughterhouse

[hollow locust]

is really there anything wrong in having spaces in plugin names in vencord?

[fleet cedar]

It's against convention, but I don't think there's any technical problems with it

[formal belfry]

anyone?

[blazing haven]

[brave burrow]

const { editMessage } = findByPropsLazy("editMessage");
    start() {
        this.clickListener = addClickListener(async (msg, channel, event) => {
            await editMessage(channel.id, msg.id, { content: "banana" });
        });
    },
    stop() {
        removeClickListener(this.clickListener);
    }

[formal belfry]

thank you

[lavish frigate]

web dev is still so insane to me cuz i have this much shit for exactly 3 pages

[meager turret]

so true

[lavish frigate]

NEW FOLDER: types

[cerulean plover]

wtf

[lavish frigate]

yea

[royal nymph]

skill issue

WHY IS IT ALL TOP LEVEL

please

src folder

I am begging

[lavish frigate]

?!

nuxt does not work with src folder

i dont get why id even need an src folder!

[royal nymph]

nuxt sooo bad

[royal nymph]

so you don't have 2 billion folders

[lavish frigate]

like... root > 2nd root? why not have another src folder inside the src folder..

root > src > src2

[royal nymph]

so much cleaner than having everything top level

[calm ruin]

imagine using folders

go users would hate you

[royal nymph]

[autumn sigil]

astro love

[royal nymph]

Astro + svelte = cutest couple ever

[viscid grove]

Is there a way to make it use Vendicated/Vencord or automatically sync my fork so I don't have to sync fork then update vencord?

[cerulean plover]

It's definitely possible just not a feature at the moment

[meager turret]

fun go package https://github.com/pion/webrtc

[lavish frigate]

oh my god

[meager turret]

this is called the circular import skill issue

what I call it anyway

[royal nymph]

simply don't make a fork

you don't need a fork

[viscid grove]

how do you do that?

and also that seems like it would be more annoying than this

or was that a joke since you don't have to fork it

[autumn sigil]

ive been enjoying webcomponents a lot

instead of bringing entire framework

[royal nymph]

scary

typescript support so bad

do u actually type them too

so that u can do <thing and intellisense suggests attrs

[lavish frigate]

WDYM G

g

[autumn sigil]

no

[cerulean plover]

it would be

[autumn sigil]

i use them like this https://github.com/voidfill/discord-userdoccers/blob/master/src/components/menu/Sublink.astro

dont cry bestie

ultra small bundle size and good perf

[lavish frigate]

i like

you know

what

FOURTEEN folders

my site currently looks like THIS i do not need FOURTEEN FOLDERS for this

[autumn sigil]

see convo abou src

[lavish frigate]

src doesnt solve this

because it just puts 14 folders into one folder

and then you have one more

OMG

[autumn sigil]

too bad

[lavish frigate]

lc.xkcd standards

[visual shell]

Standards

Fortunately, the charging one has been solved now that we've all standardized on mini-USB. Or is it micro-USB? Shit.

xkcd • labsCore • Page 1/9

[lavish frigate]

situation: there are 14 folders
14? RIDICULOUS! We need to create one source folder that contains everything (yeah!)
soon: situation: there are 15 folders

[autumn sigil]

idk man learn to organize your shit then

dont complain about it

[lavish frigate]

the problem is its too organized.

im not putting layouts in components and im not putting types into server
im complaining that web apps have become too complicated

my proposed solution is: take every single major framework developer and contributer and put them on an island

give them maybe jquery only

task them with creating 1 (one) website

[frosty obsidian]

use framework designed for simple websites

nuxt is for more complex use cases

[royal nymph]

it literally does but okay

[lavish frigate]

YOU are also going on that island

[lavish frigate]

you too

[royal nymph]

your source code being separate from node modules and config files already goes a long way

organising into subfolders has always been a good form of keeping stuff clean

music goes in the music folder
videos go in the videos folder
source code goes in the src folder

[frosty obsidian]

we should go back to the stone age

[royal nymph]

https://tenor.com/view/anime-neko-anime-head-pat-anime-head-rub-neko-para-gif-16085488

[frosty obsidian]

plain html css and js

no frameworks

[royal nymph]

astro is basically that

[deep mulch]

Wing spotted

everytime i see wing i feel lively

[lavish frigate]

yea

[frosty obsidian]

website should be as simple as index.html in the www folder

[royal nymph]

index.php

[lavish frigate]

www folder in the var folder

[deep mulch]

im updating aliucord RoleColorEverywhere plugin @frosty obsidian

[lavish frigate]

fuck one folder too many

we cant escape the folders

[deep mulch]

making the typing color better

[frosty obsidian]

good

[deep mulch]

it will be slightly more efficient

[royal nymph]

you love

[lavish frigate]

hey

whats shitpoop

[frosty obsidian]

https://shitpoop.vendicated.dev

vee just gives everyone access to her vps

[royal nymph]

average manti site

[lavish frigate]

https://meow.vendicated.dev/

[royal nymph]

i used to have wildcard dns to my vps so manti made shitpoop without me even knowing

[royal nymph]

https://meow.vendicated.dev/meow

[deep mulch]

make vencord virus

[lavish frigate]

venrus

[cerulean plover]

[snow grail]

How do I duplicate a file/folder in git while preserving its git history but without making the commit history ugly

[dusty moth]

painfully

you'd need to rewrite every commit that touched the object to also touch a copy of the object in the same way

due to the blockchain you'd touch every commit since the object was created

[ornate quiver]

used to?

[deep mulch]

@royal nymph help

im trying to figure out how the channel favoriting syncs to other clients

i have the network inspector tab open

on another client i favorite/unfavorite

and nothings ever put in the inspector but the client updates to show the new channel

nvm im dumb i forgot that the websocket request was at the very start and thats where it goes

guh its all encrypted

[royal nymph]

not encrypted

just compressed

you can enable gateway log in devtools

with experiment plugin

[deep mulch]

oh

[royal nymph]

it's probably inside user settings proto

[royal nymph]

you will love using that on Aliucord

[deep mulch]

it isnt

im gonna add to favorite channels

[royal nymph]

you're lucky it isn't

[deep mulch]

no need to bundle huge protobuf lib

@royal nymph you will use

its not getting sent to aliucord gateway whar

[royal nymph]

capabilities moment maybe

[deep mulch]

oh

how do i see the capabilities on desktop is there a dev option

[royal nymph]

https://docs.discord.sex/topics/gateway#list-of-capabilities

doesn't list anything relevant tho

[deep mulch]

i think its missing this api event

30717 is the value sent in desktop websocket

[frosty obsidian]

you probably shouldn't mess with capabilities

i don't actually know if you even can

[deep mulch]

why

[frosty obsidian]

its sent in the identify payload

idk how the timing works out

[deep mulch]

private final void doIdentify() {
    this.seq = 0;
    this.sessionId = null;
    IdentifyData invoke = this.identifyDataProvider.invoke();
    if (invoke == null) {
        handleClose(true, 4004, "No connection info provided.");
        return;
    }
    this.connectionState = 3;
    this.identifyStartTime = clock.currentTimeMillis();
    this.token = invoke.getToken();
    Companion.log$default(INSTANCE, this.logger, "Sending identify.", false, 2, null);
    send$default(this, new Outgoing(Opcode.IDENTIFY, new OutgoingPayload.Identify(invoke.getToken(), 100, true, 351L, this.identifyProperties, invoke.getClientState())), false, null, 4, null);
}

351L

might be best to add aliucord api to add new capabilities

[frosty obsidian]

you would need to verify if the capability breaks anything

[deep mulch]

i dont think it would

if its just allowing new events to come in to the gateway

[frosty obsidian]

did you find out which one

[deep mulch]

could be this maybe

the event name is USER_GUILD_SETTINGS_UPDATE

[frosty obsidian]

guh that changes an existing model

[deep mulch]

whats that mean

[frosty obsidian]

if aliu doesn't have that capability then it'll crash

[frosty obsidian]

entry in the ready event changes

would break deserialization

[deep mulch]

we can fix that though i think

extending the class

[frosty obsidian]

lot of work

[deep mulch]

ill try

[frosty obsidian]

kinda sucks that you have to copy all of this to your patch bc the flags are inlined

[deep mulch]

yes

thats why an aliucord api for it would be good

like GatewayAPI

minky is laying on me purring @frosty obsidian

[royal nymph]

kill

[deep mulch]

evilv

[frosty obsidian]

Capabilities(AUTH_TOKEN_REFRESH | AUTO_CALL_CONNECT | CLIENT_STATE_V2 | DEBOUNCE_MESSAGE_REACTIONS | DEDUPE_USER_OBJECTS | LAZY_USER_NOTES | MULTIPLE_GUILD_EXPERIMENT_POPULATIONS | NON_CHANNEL_READ_STATES | PASSIVE_GUILD_UPDATE_V2 | PRIORITIZED_READY_PAYLOAD | USER_SETTINGS_PROTO | VERSIONED_READ_STATES | VERSIONED_USER_GUILD_SETTINGS)

why husk

[viscid grove]

double husk

[deep mulch]

whats that

[frosty obsidian]

those are the capabilities used

[deep mulch]

where

[frosty obsidian]

desktop

[deep mulch]

how did you get

[frosty obsidian]

i literally replied to the relevent message

[deep mulch]

guh

im getting funny crash

java.lang.NullPointerException: Attempt to read from field 'android.view.View androidx.recyclerview.widget.RecyclerView$ViewHolder.itemView' on a null object reference in method 'androidx.recyclerview.widget.RecyclerView$ViewHolder androidx.recyclerview.widget.RecyclerView$Adapter.createViewHolder(android.view.ViewGroup, int)'

[frosty obsidian]

cadence utility

[deep mulch]

i think i need to update the thing

to add the new field

oh

2024-09-14 00:00:35.026 12323-12323 Discord com.aliucord E java.lang.NoSuchFieldException: No field identifyDataProvider in class Lcom/aliucord/api/GatewayAPI; (declaration of 'com.aliucord.api.GatewayAPI' appears in /data/user/0/com.aliucord/code_cache/Aliucord.zip) (Ask Gemini)

guh i was doing getDeclaredField on the wrong class

[deep mulch]

whats this as number

[frosty obsidian]

zeet please

[deep mulch]

WHAT

WHATTTT

tell

[frosty obsidian]

.

[deep mulch]

oh

[frosty obsidian]

Capabilities(AUTH_TOKEN_REFRESH | DEDUPE_USER_OBJECTS | LAZY_USER_NOTES | MULTIPLE_GUILD_EXPERIMENT_POPULATIONS | NO_AFFINE_USER_IDS | VERSIONED_READ_STATES | VERSIONED_USER_GUILD_SETTINGS)

alius

[deep mulch]

what

aliucords?

[frosty obsidian]

yes

[deep mulch]

how did you get that from 351

[frosty obsidian]

.

[deep mulch]

show

i put the number in just to see and its so broken

java.lang.IllegalStateException: Fatal Exception thrown on Scheduler.Worker thread.
  at j0.l.c.j.run(ScheduledAction.java, [Aliucord] Uncaught exception on thread Main-StoreThread:3)
  at j0.l.c.c$a.run(ExecutorScheduler.java:9)
  at java.util.concurrent.ThreadPoolExecutor.runWorker(ThreadPoolExecutor.java:1145)
  at java.util.concurrent.ThreadPoolExecutor$Worker.run(ThreadPoolExecutor.java:644)
  at java.lang.Thread.run(Thread.java:1012)```
 but the app is still working kinda

[frosty obsidian]

can't

its based on reflection with the wrapper i wrote for capabilities

[deep mulch]

i dont understand but okay

[frosty obsidian]

its just code specific to cadence

[deep mulch]

how do i add bitmask together

[frosty obsidian]

or

[deep mulch]

351L or (1 shl 3) just returns 351 am i doing it wrong

[frosty obsidian]

bc aliu already has that capability

[deep mulch]

it doesnt receive the gateway event

maybe its another one

[frosty obsidian]

bc thats not the capability responsible for that event

[deep mulch]

which one is it

[frosty obsidian]

i don't know

[deep mulch]

so its one of these?

[frosty obsidian]

yes

unless theres an undocumented capability

[deep mulch]

ConnectionTimeStats: "GatewayHello" ended without starting!

did aliu always log that on startup

[frosty obsidian]

strange

i modified the capabilities cadence uses to match desktop and i don't get that event

[deep mulch]

hm

Discord RN gets teh event

[frosty obsidian]

it could be me using older version code

[deep mulch]

ill try the desktop one and se if the event is logged at all

startup is extremely slow

thats weird

even with the 351L

[frosty obsidian]

actually nvm

i forgot i use my alt in cadence

i do get the event

[deep mulch]

oh

i think this is the ready payload

there

val sessionId = GatewaySocket::class.java
    .getDeclaredField("sessionId")
    .apply { isAccessible = true }

val identifyDataProvider = GatewaySocket::class.java
    .getDeclaredField("identifyDataProvider")
    .apply { isAccessible = true }

val identifyStartTime = GatewaySocket::class.java
    .getDeclaredField("identifyStartTime")
    .apply { isAccessible = true }

val clock = GatewaySocket::class.java
    .getDeclaredField("clock")
    .apply { isAccessible = true }

val token = GatewaySocket::class.java
    .getDeclaredField("token")
    .apply { isAccessible = true }

val identifyProperties = GatewaySocket::class.java
    .getDeclaredField("identifyProperties")
    .apply { isAccessible = true }

val capabilities = 30717L

patcher.instead<GatewaySocket>("doIdentify") {
    GatewaySocket.`access$setSeq$p`(this, 0)
    sessionId[this] = null

    val identity = (identifyDataProvider[this] as `StoreGatewayConnection$buildGatewaySocket$socket$1`)()
        ?: return@instead `access$handleClose`(this, true, 4004, "No connection info provided.")

    GatewaySocket.`access$setConnectionState$p`(this, 3)
    identifyStartTime[this] = (clock[this] as Clock).currentTimeMillis()
    token[this] = identity.token

    GatewaySocket.Companion.`log$default`(
        GatewaySocket.Companion,
        GatewaySocket.`access$getLogger$p`(this),
        "Sending identify",
        false,
        2,
        null
    )

    @Suppress("UNCHECKED_CAST")
    GatewaySocket.`send$default`(
        this,
        Outgoing(
            Opcode.IDENTIFY,
            OutgoingPayload.Identify(
                identity.token,
                100,
                true,
                capabilities,
                identifyProperties[this] as Map<String, Any>,
                identity.clientState
            )
        ),
        false,
        null,
        4,
        null
    )
}

[frosty obsidian]

that messes with settings

enables protos

still need to find the specific capability

[deep mulch]

if i just remove USER_SETTINGS_PROTO it should be fine right

[deep mulch]

maybe we can take away all the known capability values

i think 1 << 15 is it

idk

[frosty obsidian]

no

not real

[deep mulch]

im having a dumb

[frosty obsidian]

im removing capabilities one by one until i no longer see the event

[deep mulch]

okay

need to figure out what the ready payload looks like for it too

[frosty obsidian]

funny thing

i get the event using alius capabilities

[deep mulch]

guhh me too

are you able to figure out the field that contains favorites in the payload

[frosty obsidian]

i haven't looked

[deep mulch]

there i think i found it

user_guild_settings

its already in the model

[frosty obsidian]

its probably a flag in the channel override

[autumn sigil]

wtf u doing zt

[deep mulch]

making favorite channels sync to aliucord

[frosty obsidian]

yeah its a flag

[deep mulch]

i also just found this

[frosty obsidian]

probably not a flag aliu has

so you'll need to do the bitmask stuff yourself

[deep mulch]

probably

[frosty obsidian]

gl

[deep mulch]

thank

@frosty obsidian even though the capabilities patch wasn't needed here do you think I should make thing for aliucord core

[frosty obsidian]

nah

[deep mulch]

I think for my frecents plugin I will need USER_SETTINGS_PROTO

or wait

[frosty obsidian]

it breaks stuff

removes the settings update event that aliu uses

and the property from the ready event

[deep mulch]

o don't think that's right

something is weird

USER_SETTINGS_PROTO is 512

the capabilities is 351

but it's still getting the event

@frosty obsidian https://github.com/zt64/aliucord-plugins/blob/893a569d95d179c78164c0f5b55b71019cf95ec6/plugin/Frecents/src/main/kotlin/Frecents.kt#L104

[pearl stag]

Frecents.kt: Line 104

GatewayAPI.onEvent<GatewayResponse>("USER_SETTINGS_PROTO_UPDATE") {

[deep mulch]

this works

somehow

[frosty obsidian]

oh i think it just removes the old stuff then

[frosty obsidian]

aliu doesn't have any of them actually

it doesn't have the field

guess you're parsing the event yourself

[deep mulch]

oh

[frosty obsidian]

you will also need to find it in the ready event

[deep mulch]

yes

minky is purring @frosty obsidian

most of the stuff is already there

[frosty obsidian]

yeah its literally just missing the flags property

[deep mulch]

no its there

6144 - favorited

4096 unfavorited

[frosty obsidian]

no i mean the model

[deep mulch]

the flags are just a bitmask right

[frosty obsidian]

the property was not there

[frosty obsidian]

yes

[deep mulch]

its there but its like notifications oriented

2048 is the flag

which is like

[frosty obsidian]

im probably looking at older source

[deep mulch]

guh?

1 << 11

thats it

[frosty obsidian]

im looking at the decomp repo juby has

[deep mulch]

oh

i love jadx gui

[frosty obsidian]

i think the flags stuff was added very late into alius life

you probably got pretty lucky

[deep mulch]

probably

flags are used for threads/forums

@frosty obsidian how do i reverse adding the flag

StoreStream
    .getUserGuildSettings()
    .setChannelNotificationFlags(ctx, model.channel, ((model.channel.flags ?: 0) or (1 shl 11)).toInt())
``` adds to favorites

[frosty obsidian]

idk

[deep mulch]

@frosty obsidian http toolkit has free dark mode now

weird

its not sending a network request

ill have to manually do it

it works

[valid jetty]

meowwww

[lavish cloak]

chat i want to make a social media app, React web app and reactive native mobile app. How much will React Web App Server + SQL Database server for posts and comments + DB server for user passwords + Domain name cost in total?

here's my plan so far

Which cloud hosting should i use also?

[fleet cedar]

All of them simultaneously

[supple vault]

hetzner

host it all on the same 64gb ram server

30euro/mo

[calm ruin]

probably that would be very overkill

[frosty obsidian]

you can get a decent vps for $10-20/mo and domains don't usually cost more than $30/yr

although most services will charge less for the first year

[supple vault]

so I'm working on something and I have this

import {app} from "electron";
import {createDiscordWindow} from "./discord/discordWindow.js";
import "./startup.js";

app.whenReady().then(() => {
    createDiscordWindow();
});

startup.js

// To be run at every startup

import {app} from "electron";
import {getConfig} from "../shared/config.js";

app.setPath("sessionData", `${app.getPath("userData")}/sessionData`);
getConfig("fileExistsDoNotTouch");

app.commandLine.appendSwitch("enable-features", "UseOzonePlatform, WaylandWindowDecorations");
app.commandLine.appendSwitch("ozone-platform-hint", "auto");

when I build and run the app, it opens in X11

    "scripts": {
        "build": "tsc",
        "start": "electron dist/main/index.js",
        "dev": "pnpm build && pnpm start"
    },

in theory I shouldnt have to add the flags on the dev script

[royal nymph]

you can't add the flag via code

[supple vault]

guhhhh

[royal nymph]

has to be added via cli flag

[supple vault]

sucks

[royal nymph]

and these are both obsolete app.commandLine.appendSwitch("enable-features", "UseOzonePlatform, WaylandWindowDecorations");

enabled by default in modern electron

[royal nymph]

because it has to decide at app launch whether to open in x11 or wayland

[supple vault]

fair enough

[supple vault]

oh

right okay

thank you for saving me from making a braindead bug report

[royal nymph]

you using electron builder?

you can use a simple wrapper shell script for linux

that will add the flag u want

[supple vault]

wdym

    "scripts": {
        "build:dev": "sucrase ./src -d ./out --transforms typescript",
        "build:prod": "tsc",
        "start": "electron out/main/index.js --ozone-platform-hint=auto",
        "dev": "pnpm build:dev && pnpm start"
    },

this seems pretty simple to me ngl

[autumn sigil]

i cant believe this works

thank you staltz

[supple vault]

@royal nymph how to you make vesktop interpret the preload file as a module without specifying .mjs and .mts?

    const window = new BrowserWindow({
        webPreferences: {
            backgroundThrottling: false,
            preload: join(import.meta.dirname, "../../preload/preload.js")
        },
        autoHideMenuBar: getConfig("autoHideMenuBar")
    });

sucrase doesn't seem to support transpiling mts to mjs with the correct extension

[royal nymph]

don't use esm

don't use sucrase idk wtf that is

hop on esbuild

[supple vault]

what

[supple vault]

its like esbuild but only builds for newer targets

https://github.com/alangpierce/sucrase

[supple vault]

you do in vesktop

[deep mulch]

@frosty obsidian this is weird

i got it syncing properly

but channels like offtopic and regulars only show up in aliucord if theyre unread

[royal nymph]

no we don't.

[deep mulch]

the unread channels are there in the gateway event

the flags dont change

[supple vault]

do you transpile it at build time?

because all your preload files seem to be in ESM

oh I see

[royal nymph]

all code is bundled with esbuild to commonjs

[royal nymph]

anyway you add type: module to your package.json

[supple vault]

https://www.electronjs.org/docs/latest/tutorial/esm#esm-preload-scripts-must-have-the-mjs-extension

ESM preload scripts must have the .mjs extension

Preload scripts will ignore "type": "module" fields, so you must use the .mjs file extension in your ESM preload scripts.

[royal nymph]

xD

too bad

[supple vault]

why not use ESM

since electron supports it now

[royal nymph]

rename the files with ur script

because esm sucks

[supple vault]

balls

[supple vault]

why

curious

[royal nymph]

because it does

also vesktop bundles to a single file lol

[supple vault]

horror

the only reason I picked sucrase for dev builds was speed over tsc

i guess ill use esbuild

i dont see why I didnt use it in the first place

[supple vault]

sorry if that was a cocky response someone else sent that to me mid conversation

[royal nymph]

wdym cock

it wasn't

too bad = rip

[royal nymph]

I mean esbuild isn't gonna magically fix your issues, I'm sure sucrase is also good

but tbh i would just recommend against using esm it's kinda cursed

you don't really need it

[supple vault]

I've always used ESM

[royal nymph]

and pretty sure u can't even use esm in renderer

[supple vault]

I prefer it over CJS

[supple vault]

in armcord we do

[royal nymph]

in source code yes but

it doesn't really matter what the output is and from my experience cjs is easier to make work

the fact that esm kills __dirname soooo annoying

[supple vault]

indeed

[royal nymph]

well anyway if u like esm better sure do use it

[supple vault]

I suppose it is just opionated in the end

[royal nymph]

fwiw you could just rename the file to mjs

[royal nymph]

btw side note: && isn't gonna work on all machines

[royal nymph]

I suggest using .mjs (or mts with tsx package) scripts for all npm scripts that aren't super simple

[supple vault]

yeah im just making esbuild.js now

this is a lot less painful than config files actually

[royal nymph]

oh wait vesktop is using && too for a lot

[supple vault]

[royal nymph]

maybe it's not thaaat big of a deal

but mjs scripts still good xD

[supple vault]

sucrase doesn't support keeping the m for whatever reason

so esbuild it is

[royal nymph]

pr

that's so weird tho are u sure

[supple vault]

afaik

i saw issues relating to it

[royal nymph]

is this for a discord client btw?

[supple vault]

yes

[royal nymph]

wonder if you could use vite as ur build tool

[supple vault]

eh i tried

a lot of the documentation assumes you are creating the vite app

and not just running someone elses app

[royal nymph]

idk if this is good https://electron-vite.org/guide/

[supple vault]

https://github.com/alangpierce/sucrase/issues/734#issuecomment-1868550162

[supple vault]

there were like 2, one that runs on electron forge, and another that was standalone

both had the same name

[royal nymph]

3.3k stars https://github.com/alex8088/electron-vite

[supple vault]

different authors though

https://github.com/electron-vite/vite-plugin-electron

I couldn't help but notice both have a large chinese audience - i have no idea why

[royal nymph]

insane https://electron-vite.org/guide/source-code-protection

[supple vault]

yeah i saw that

[royal nymph]

because every 8th person is chinese

[supple vault]

fair enough

[royal nymph]

more than that actually

every 6th person

[supple vault]

sob

[royal nymph]

actually this has really good docs

if you are new to electron it might help to use their template

it has docs for all concepts

[supple vault]

do you know how to append a switch

sob

[royal nymph]

perhaps try dev -- --ozone-platform-hint=auto

-- is generally used to indicate end of argument parsing

[supple vault]

ty

[autumn sigil]

i use this, its good 👍

[thorny ingot]

how cursed is this

[dawn ledge]

why

[thorny ingot]

this is something my gf did

[fleet cedar]

The windows registry is a curse by itself

[thorny ingot]

it just regedits your system so it uses the custom font

[tight dawn]

Maybe not the place to ask this, but are there any new mobile clients/vendetta forks that devs are moving to?

With bunny being killed, idk what to work on anymore. Would love to help get something off the ground if it exists.

[jade stone]

is that c#

[thorny ingot]

dunno i didnt make it

[fleet cedar]

The uppercase method names seem to indicate that yes

[royal nymph]

yes it's C#

[royal nymph]

blurry asf

[fleet cedar]

How ironic, that the csharp is blurry

[thorny ingot]

blame discord screenshare

[thorny ingot]

tldr to use a specific custom font for her blackjack game she made it install said font and edit your registry in windows

[fleet cedar]

That doesn't sound like the ideal way to use a custom font

[thorny ingot]

i dont think it is

but i unno

mabey this is the normal way of doing it

[tight dawn]

Didn't development stop on that? I'll have to check

[north harbor]

Did it?

I mean I know they have been stuck on the same version for ever but I didn't know they actually stopped development

[fleet cedar]

I'm still on vendetta. It's not broken yet, so eh.

Though polls being invisible is a bit annoying

[lavish cloud]

Does anyone here understand the windows input system?

I'm trying to figure out what the equivalent of evdev is, where you can grab exclusive control over an input device and read key events from it

[fleet cedar]

Check what ahk does I guess

Though maybe that's not open source

[tight dawn]

Yeah I am too, still on 206.16 💀

[fleet cedar]

205.15 here

[tight dawn]

Okay yeah you're right, I'm remembering now. There's enough basic features broken that I decided to start working from the Vendetta base instead.

Damn this blows

[lavish cloud]

I don't think AHK filters on a specific keyboard device, does it?

[dusty moth]

discord's development stopped, aliucord's didn't

[autumn sigil]

@serene elk btw why do you use zlib-sync for oceanic? doesnt node already have an api for that? or is the flush special somehow?

or pako for that matter ig

[autumn sigil]

asking because im considering dropping zlib-sync entirely because of node-gyp

[fallen nebula]

it is https://github.com/AutoHotkey/AutoHotkey

[serene elk]

u should ask Donovan that

they are the one who chose it

it might also be because eris had it as an option

[autumn sigil]

maybe

i mean idek why im using this

ik discord uses pako because renderer proc

but i have nodeintegration in workers

[ornate quiver]

no

[jade stone]

/testcommand testimgarg:

[formal belfry]

nope but they still use the old ui so some features are missing or need a backport plugin

[elder yarrow]

👉 #🧊-off-topic-iceman-only

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[austere idol]

typedef struct {
    int a;
    char* b;
    /* ... */
} struct_t;

or

struct Struct {
    int a;
    char* b;
    /* ... */
};

?

[lavish frigate]

struct Struct {
  a: i32,
  b: String,
  /* ... */
}

:3

[austere idol]

i think it counts as 2

[lavish frigate]

bonus points if you have a constructor that does the same thing as just constructing with fields set normally

struct Struct {
  a: i32,
  b: String,
  /* ... */
}

impl Struct {
  pub fn new(a: i32, b: String) -> Self {
    Self {
      a,
      b
    }
  }
}