🪅-progaming

[calm ruin]

YES

IT TURNED ME INSANE

and same thing happened while I was using rust too 😭

[final night]

Html/css + js probably

[deep mulch]

@calm ruin aoc in 3 months

use x86 assembly

[calm ruin]

never

[surreal condor]

make things which you have almost no idea how to make very shittily and then remake them properly

i unironically do this sometimes

[mild yoke]

that's a mistake tbh

As much as I dislike some of those, they are all super popular

also they cover big concepts

[lavish frigate]

java is unnecessary, js not so much

[mild yoke]

disagree

[lavish frigate]

even if you hate it you should definitely learn the most popular language

[mild yoke]

java is vaguely at the center of a lot of OOP concepts

it's ideal for stuff like DSA

[lavish frigate]

that doesnt make it necessary!

[mild yoke]

it does. Java has engrained itself in such much critical stuff, whether we like it or not

[lavish frigate]

you can learn OOP concepts with other languages, there are a ton of OOP languages because of java

while JS powers the entire web

hard to avoid something you use daily

[lavish frigate]

critical stuff like..?

[mild yoke]

I mean technically JS isn't required for that, but sure, practically speaking it's likely. Java is important both because of the OOP stuff + what it's already integrated with

cassandra db

android

[lavish frigate]

cassandra db 😭

omw to learn java because of a db

[mild yoke]

It's an extremely popular db..

but also android?

I mean that's pretty important

[lavish frigate]

well sure but may i introduce you to react native

what every new app made by any large company is using now

which requires js

not java

mainly*

[mild yoke]

no??

[lavish frigate]

i have yet to find a single person use cassandra db, or i guess they might be ashamed for it

[final night]

I hate this

[mild yoke]

A lot of companies actually explicitly use native because it feels nicer

[lavish frigate]

the go to database i see everyone using now is postgres

[final night]

postgres for big project, sqlite for small

[lavish frigate]

"feels nicer" doesnt allow for easy cross platform compatibility

like with rn

thats what large companies value nowadays

[mild yoke]

Doesn't matter. If you are selling a major product, the development is often worth it.

[lavish frigate]

look at electron

[final night]

cross compat >>>>>>>>>>>> "feel nice"

[mild yoke]

not to a lot of companies, no

[lavish frigate]

LMFAOOO

paükm fgopkASMFPWÜA

damn

what a bad opinion im sorry

[final night]

ask any actual full time dev before spouting some shit

[lavish frigate]

look at the apps powering your pc now

a ton of them are electron

or webview

[mild yoke]

This is from a development team lead at Bank of America.

[lavish frigate]

most of the "native" windows ui is webview

every single banking app ive used thus far was made using react native

sorry but java is losing its place

not only because of js and cross compat

[mild yoke]

This is true

[final night]

[royal nymph]

java maybe kotlin naaah

kotlin is alive and kicking

[lavish frigate]

but also because people are starting to move away from OOP

[royal nymph]

jetpack compose

[lavish frigate]

not talking about kotlin! kotlin seems good yea

[mild yoke]

I was never a fan of kotlin. We should be fully solving the issue tbh. It's a bit like my issue with typescript.

Typescript is pretty cool but could have fully solved the problem when it just didn't

[lavish frigate]

elaborate?

[final night]

it couldn't because getting marketshare with huge changes is impossible
light developer-first changes gave it it's foothold

[royal nymph]

fully solved what problem?

it solved the lack of types in js

[final night]

not once compiled

[mild yoke]

Sure. If more time was spent it could be it's own thing instead of running on top of JS, thus keeping a lot of issues with the JS runtime. I understand that it's an extreme technical challenge to "fix" JS, but what it could have done is used static typing to allow for compile-time optimizations.

[lavish frigate]

the way TS implements its types is honestly probably in the best way it can

[royal nymph]

its entire point is being on top of javascript

so you can use it for web

[lavish frigate]

^^^

TS shouldnt be its own language

[royal nymph]

maybe you're looking for https://www.assemblyscript.org/ ?

[lavish frigate]

it wasnt made for that

[mild yoke]

That's exactly my issue with it. I wish it could have actually used the static types for compile-time performance.

but instead you lose any optimizations that could have existed the moment it turns into JS

[royal nymph]

well written javascript is incredibly performant

[final night]

comp time pref on web is impossible when considering #🪅-progaming message

you want something using wasm

[mild yoke]

Well written compiled WASM code is even more performant

[royal nymph]

^

[mild yoke]

yeah I've used webassembly

I've been experimenting recently, it's pretty cool

[lavish frigate]

the problem i have with this rn is that TS is supposed to just improve JS and make it more safe by adding types, it shouldnt be its own language, it wasnt made to be, it wasnt thought it to be
if you want a language with good types that compiles directly to machine code use C++/Rust, whatever but TS is not the way !

[royal nymph]

assemblyscript does exactly what you want

[final night]

wasm is effectively just a bytecode lang like java bytecode right?

[royal nymph]

also often time wasm performance is worse than raw js xd

really js can be very performant if you don't write shitcode

[lavish frigate]

yes it was made to allow for other languages to compile to it, though its very underpowered right now

[royal nymph]

v8 is incredible

[ornate quiver]

we should bring back java applets

[mild yoke]

...no? Unless you're writing shit code or using a language that has inefficient wasm compilation you're gonna get more performance

[lavish frigate]

RUST applets

[ornate quiver]

rust can compile into wasm

[lavish frigate]

yah

i think wasm would be very cool if it could do all the staff js could but nop

we are stuck with optimising our complex calculations to get those .1microsecond optimisations

[final night]

ngl yall need https://youtu.be/abbR-Ttd-cA

[mild yoke]

that's my issue with WASM right now

it makes sense for PWAs, but can't integrate super well

[lavish frigate]

yep thats everyones issue with wasm rn

[mild yoke]

also iirc webkit doesn't support WASMGC yet so iOS is a no go

[ornate quiver]

isnt there a proper dom api planned for wasm

[royal nymph]

i did a comparison once

i wrote a super simple password brute force program in C and js, and then i improved the js implementation. basically just use string manipulation to generate random strings then compare them against the target password

i wrote the C one with string.h and the js one with js strings and methods like +

js performed like dooogshit compared to C

then I rewrote the js code with raw Uint8Arrays and used bytes instead of strings and the js code was only about 1.5x slower than the C one

[lavish frigate]

planned

not implemented

[mild yoke]

You can't really use WASM in production right now

for a website*

[royal nymph]

there's no reason to want to use wasm for normal web stuff

you simply don't need it

[mild yoke]

unless it's something like Flutter that compiles to both JS and WASM, but that's a different thing

[royal nymph]

wasm only makes sense for cpu intensive stuff

[mild yoke]

for PWAs it can be super useful

[lavish frigate]

there is

[mild yoke]

like video processing / decode and stuff

[royal nymph]

all js web performance issues are caused by shitcode, not the language

[lavish frigate]

the reason is so you dont have to use js

[cerulean plover]

yes

[cerulean plover]

why roll your own video decoding 😭

[royal nymph]

sometimes it makes sense

[mild yoke]

Untrue. There's a really optimized renderer library I use that is just okay in JS, but runs so much faster in WASM.

[mild yoke]

fair, not a super great example

[royal nymph]

so your renderer engine has shit code congratulations

[mild yoke]

It... doesn't? It is quite optimized actually.

[royal nymph]

then it wouldn't run poolry in js ;)

[cerulean plover]

what is the library then

[lavish frigate]

a chronically C++/Rust developer is gonna write a lot more optimised code in C++/Rust than in js, they cant really use those "JS optimisations" to achieve fast speeds without spending a year or two mastering the language
ive always seen the point of WASM to be that youll be able to write performant code in the language you are most comfortable with

and i think WASM would make the web a lot more accessible for developers

its not just "performance and speed" wasm provides

also usability

[mild yoke]

Canvaskit

My usecase extends only to flutter, but there's been usages for react and such with similar issues

The WASM renderer is so much faster

[cerulean plover]

you need to turn hardware acceleration off

and see how the web runs

trust me your app will run like

[royal nymph]

you're bringing your own rendering engine and wondering why performance is subpar

it's almost like JS is not good for very cpu intensive work like rendering

use the web canvas api and you won't have any issues

why bring ur own canvas 😭

[mild yoke]

It literally does use canvas

what are you on about

it's drawing pixels to canvas

[ornate quiver]

canvas isnt very good

[mild yoke]

Canvas is exactly that- canvas

[final night]

web canvas api is like 20x slower than other solutions

[mild yoke]

fine if you do it right

[royal nymph]

canvas is very good

[final night]

I have benchmarked and it SUCKS

[mild yoke]

not fine if you don't do it right

[royal nymph]

web canvas api is literally just cairo

on most browsers

[cerulean plover]

if you are rendering everything as canvas and your use-case is not a video game or a simulation in a browser then your app sucks

[mild yoke]

It makes a lot of sense for Flutter PWAs

[ornate quiver]

not really

[royal nymph]

canvas can be very fast if you don't use it wrongly

[mild yoke]

Since you don't gotta worry about discrepancies per-platform

[mild yoke]

Why's that?

[cerulean plover]

Then that is

[ornate quiver]

this is the same argument that got electron into every app that exists

[thorny ingot]

im coding for fub?

fun?

[cerulean plover]

make a web app and a native app

[mild yoke]

You didn't answer the question

[thorny ingot]

im too SHIT to get a programming job ever

[mild yoke]

that's 2x the development effort, I don't have time

I can't support multiple platforms seperately

[royal nymph]

so? it's a valid argument and electron is very good

[mild yoke]

then I'm also sacrificing desktop performance.

[ornate quiver]

what makes flutter better for pwas

[royal nymph]

make a web app and use electron ;)

[cerulean plover]

accept you made a PWA

[royal nymph]

[cerulean plover]

electron is only useful if you made a good PWA already and want to make it 5% more native

or if you hate browser-native title bar

[ornate quiver]

i dont see how flutter can be possibly better than a regular js ui framework on web

[mild yoke]

You can code it for all platforms natively- so you can still distribute a binary for mobile / desktop, while making it work in the web without much extra effort

[cerulean plover]

its not

[mild yoke]

Now I have a slow desktop app and no mobile app

[cerulean plover]

can you show me an example flutter app on web

[ornate quiver]

this doesnt make it better it's just a cost cutting solution

also "natively" is a joke

react native is not native
flutter is not native

[mild yoke]

https://app.openbonfire.dev/ my own- slightly broken due to a change I pushed the other day dw about that

[cerulean plover]

i'd rather have a good PWA than a fucking 100MiB+ mobile app

[royal nymph]

"slow desktop app"
skill issue

don't write shit slop and you won't have a slow desktop app

[mild yoke]

That is exactly what I'll have have. A slow desktop app, and no mobile app.

Sounds like a pretty bad idea to me

[cerulean plover]

flutter feels cursed on the web

[lavish frigate]

desktop apps hate this one simple trick! see how you can optimise your desktop app now!

[cerulean plover]

if you open inspector on that site your web-dev soul will cry for mercy

[mild yoke]

Sure. I meant near-native performance but I didn't say that very well.

[ornate quiver]

well i guess its passable but near-native perf is also a strech

[mild yoke]

There's some other good benchmarks

[royal nymph]

now tell me why your app needs to calculate the Gauss–Legendre

[ornate quiver]

what the fuck is that benchmarking

[mild yoke]

It's a benchmark

[ornate quiver]

benchmark of what

[royal nymph]

a benchmark that makes no sense

benchmark the actual use case

not fucking math calculations you never need to do in a normal app

js le bad because it can't calculate 300th fibonacci number

[mild yoke]

No, electron issue. I can tell exactly when an app is using electron literally just be resizing the window happens extremely slow.

[cerulean plover]

this is a valid point actually

[royal nymph]

... who cares?

why do you need blazingly fast window resizes

[mild yoke]

I do. It feels like shit.

[lavish frigate]

technically yea but how else are you gonna benchmark something

[cerulean plover]

how often are you fucking resizing your window

[lavish frigate]

run speedometer 3.0 on it?

[royal nymph]

useful benchmarks like time til first full paint

fps

etc

animation fluidity

[ornate quiver]

here's some js framework benchmarks

https://krausest.github.io/js-framework-benchmark/2024/table_chrome_127.0.6533.72.html

thats an actually useful benchmark

[mild yoke]

Nothing is less fluid than your entire app janking every time you change the size of it. Sorry you disagree.

[lavish frigate]

hm

[royal nymph]

i just compared electron resize to musicbee (winforms) resize and musicbee is worse

gtk is smooth

but you're not constantly resizing the window so it doesn't matter

[ornate quiver]

it mostly depends on the app
you can have an app in any framework that can do resizing well or shit

[mild yoke]

Just downloaded musicbee, no issues here. Meanwhile both Discord and VSC will render as if the window size is still larger than it actually is, with less poll. Feels worse to me.

On the other hand, any flutter app I've tried, (such as appflowy), is fine, as well as .NET framework apps that I've both used and built.

That's the only sample I have for desktop that I tried this specifically

Even flutter debug has less jank than a "release" JS electron app 💀

[royal nymph]

flutter performance is kinda bad though

u should write ur app in native C

[mild yoke]

On web, sure, I'll absolutely agree

[royal nymph]

and use SDL

[mild yoke]

It's completely fine on desktop

it feels really good

I encourage you to try appflowy

as it's a pretty well maintained flutter desktop app I recently tried, the performance actually feels quite nice

I do think JS can be quite nice, but performance certainly lacks in a lot of instances. It's a tradeoff. Do I think it's worth it? Usually no, but it depends.

[mild yoke]

true and factual

[royal nymph]

i tried flutter but it's meh i think

[mild yoke]

It's very nice for parity

[royal nymph]

i don't like the nested functions stuff

html / jsx feels way nicer even if it's essentially the same thing

[thorny ingot]

of course you would

[mild yoke]

I've always thought that it was too loose, but I only spent a few months with it, nothing crazy

[royal nymph]

wdym loose?

[mild yoke]

Like you can do stuff that makes absolutely no sense in HTML but it will still attempt to render

[royal nymph]

well simply don't write invalid html xd

if you use a decent editor it will warn you anyway

and jsx is waaay stricter

[mild yoke]

That's like saying don't use typescript, simply don't use a null value

[royal nymph]

it doesn't take a lot to just not write invalid syntax

[mild yoke]

I've used JSX, but not a whole lot. It seems interesting but still loose in my experience.

[royal nymph]

but like i said ^

if you're writing raw html you're doing it wrong anyway

jsx is good but react kinda sucks

svelte / astro are where it's at

[mild yoke]

Yeah I mean I'm sure it might but flutter has a really good structure of enforcing stuff at a compiler level

Yeah svelte was super nice

[royal nymph]

svelte and astro are so much more light and faster than react

[mild yoke]

I used it for a hackathon a while back

[royal nymph]

ever tried jetpack compose?

it fills a similar niche as flutter

[mild yoke]

I've heard good things about it

I've heard it's not super good for cross platform

[mild yoke]

like you have to handle per-platform cases a lot more than flutter

[royal nymph]

it def still needs a lot of work for desktop and web yeah

it's most mature for mobile right now

[mild yoke]

But yeah it seems to be the default for new android apps atm

because android tooling is a mess lol

I might look into it but I've been pretty full send on flutter recently since it's something that works really well for the stuff I make

ofc I'm not opposed to trying alternates

[royal nymph]

i haven't used compose much myself cause i stopped working on android xD but yeah i can imagine that because the entire android stdlib is java based

i hate android dev cause it's sooo fucking bloated

IDE taking 5gb ram, gradle taking 20 seconds to start, etc

😭

[wraith rose]

Android runs ontop of a Java virtual machine which runs on linux.
That is why java is used

[mild yoke]

I've always thought that was silly

android using jvm and stuff

although honestly the user experience feels about the same?

[ornate quiver]

kotlin mpp solves this a lot of the time
but yes if you're planning to use platform specific apis its a bit of boilerplate unfortunately

[mild yoke]

I know a lot of stuff can be native

[royal nymph]

well it doesn't it uses ART

but ig you mean Java?

android is very old and there really was no better language at the time

java was THE shit back then

[mild yoke]

true and factual statement

[ornate quiver]

also based cause you can mod apps easily

[mild yoke]

Yeah APK patching is nice

[royal nymph]

the alternative would have been C / C++ and let's be real no one wants to write apps in that

[mild yoke]

That's kind of how flutter works, but it doesn't really gain performance

[wraith rose]

I think minecraft pocket edition used c++ from what I heard.
so some apps used c++

[mild yoke]

I'd image

a lot of the heavy bits usually go down to native

that's what libdiscord n stuff is about

[ornate quiver]

only games

[royal nymph]

btw did you see there's react native desktop xD

[ornate quiver]

NO

[mild yoke]

please no

[royal nymph]

most games will use C++

[mild yoke]

I mean technically with expo

[royal nymph]

or even C# (still cpp via il2cpp)

[mild yoke]

I mean aspx

aspx has kinda been a thing for a while but it's not super great

my uni uses it

[meager turret]

i wouldnt call C# "still cpp" because someone uses il2cpp

just like any compiled language isnt still assembly

[mild yoke]

@royal nymph this is open ended- flutter or react native for strictly cross platform apps?

[wraith rose]

C# isn't fully native usually.
From what i Heard it's compiled but still interepeted with a unique interpeter

I need to re-check my IT class notes though

[meager turret]

depends on what you use

[lavish frigate]

.NET

(microsoft java)

[royal nymph]

anything but RN

haram

[lavish frigate]

we need to take back the "rn" abbreviation

[meager turret]

some js too fun fact

[lavish frigate]

lets make it stand for rust now, now

[meager turret]

i think rust now is bad

rust is not just now

rust is yesterday

rust is tomorrow

rust is forever.

[lavish frigate]

🔥

but i mean

rust now = do rust now

do rn

[wraith rose]

at least unity is not fully compiled native code

it runs through the unity interepeter

from what I heard

(at least not usually)

[lavish frigate]

why "at least"

unity 👎

[wraith rose]

oh it was the I DECOMPILED a Sonic game... here's how - MattKC
(this is the video, it was not the class)

about 4 minutes in is when stuff starts

[meager turret]

yeah the default is mono in unity unless they changed it recently

[wraith rose]

He says c# is higher level and "generally isn't compiled to machine code at all compiled to Common Interdimate level".

this is where I got it from

[lavish frigate]

yeah its for the unity runtime so games can be made cross platform easily

[wraith rose]

https://youtu.be/lJVGd7cBGuQ?si=vYRYpYWo6R8tH5y1&t=333
le source

[wraith rose]

The .net framework is required to run software quite a lot tho

[lavish frigate]

not rly its mostly for windows apps (because microsoft loves its own language, of course)

[wraith rose]

microsoft does have the uwp thing right?

https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/uwp/get-started/universal-application-platform-guide
ah

[lavish frigate]

Yep but like every single windows native ui/app framework kinda sucks Microsoft can’t get it right at all

[wraith rose]

is that one reason why people ignore mc bedrock edition?

[lavish frigate]

?

wdym

[wraith rose]

sorry I mean bedrock edition

[lavish frigate]

nope bedrock has a lot of other issues

fun fact bedrocks ui is made in react

[wraith rose]

wait what?

the same thing that runs desktop discord?

[lavish frigate]

nope

react is just a javascript framework

discord uses electron to run javascript then uses react for its ui

[wraith rose]

electron is built on react tho right?

[lavish frigate]

minecraft embeds an entire js runtime inside the game then runs react on it for ui

[lavish frigate]

no

electron is a framework to build desktop apps, you can use any javascript framework with it

[wraith rose]

I see.

I don't really use javascript or know much so that's my bad

I mostly use python and I know some normal java

[ornate quiver]

react is just a js library
electron is chromium bundled with extra surprises

[wraith rose]

I see

[wraith rose]

how do you learn how to code vencord plugins?

[lavish frigate]

"chromium bundled with extra surprises" 😭

i mean you are not wrong

[frosty obsidian]

prepare for a bit of pain

(you're gonna be reading a lot of minified and bundled js)

[meager turret]

not all of it yet i think

they are very slow with it

[lavish frigate]

ofc they are....

[elder yarrow]

👉 #🧩-plugin-development

(Auto-response invoked by @dusty moth)

[wraith rose]

I don't have access to plugin development how do I get access?

ok nvm I don't know at all close to the enough javascript for that

[lone gust]

oo mc

wdym mc embeds

[lavish frigate]

lc.dictionary embed

[visual shell]

<:i:1263592450136473684> embed  ɪmˈbɛd 

verb

1. fix (an object) firmly and deeply in a surrounding mass.

• he had an operation to remove a nail embedded in his chest
  <:i:1263591098740113478>  drive in   hammer in   ram in 

2. attach (a journalist) to a military unit during a conflict.

• the CNN correspondent is now embedded with the US Navy aboard the USS Constellation

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[lavish frigate]

"put an entire js runtime inside of minecraft"

[wraith rose]

Kind of reminds me of the webdisplays java mod

[lone gust]

yes but what are Minecraft embeds

or did someone come up with that idea

[lavish frigate]

to embed is to put something inside another thing

its an actual action its a verb

not just fucking discord embeds ffs

[lone gust]

bro shut up

😭

u managed to send like 20 words and not answer my q

meanie

[lone gust]

(if they did I will stab)

tessie gonna ban fr

[wraith rose]

Might need to figure out how to run two instances of psql
without using docker.

(I don't like docker)

I mean it's decent software.
I just hate using it

[lavish frigate]

the answer to your question is that minecraft embeds dont exist but embed is the action of putting something inside another thing, in this case the js runtime into minecraft

[lone gust]

oh

so someone wants to add js in mc

[lavish frigate]

no

[lone gust]

i will still stab

oh

[lavish frigate]

are you actually reading what im saying or just pretending to

[royal nymph]

1. why?
2. just use docker

[wraith rose]

File server stuff

[royal nymph]

you can super easily run a standalone postgres docker container and map its postgres port to the host and then connect to it from non docker

[wraith rose]

I don't want to make my main instance of psql backup too big

docker grows too big in resources sometimes and I don't really like managing docker

[royal nymph]

try podman or smth idk

or dont run two postgres

[wraith rose]

this is on a contabo vps
https://dev.to/titusnjuguna/how-to-set-up-multiple-postgresql-instances-on-a-single-server-15gg
There is this funky guide tho

[ember notch]

solution: use sqlite

thanks for coming to my tedd talk

[royal nymph]

are you planning to store the files inside your db?

if yes that's not a good idea

store them as separate files and store the filename in the db (or if you architect it well with using ids as filename you won't even need to store the name)

[hushed pebble]

trol

[ember notch]

oh hi blum

[hushed pebble]

hai :3

[wraith rose]

its' way too big to not decompress and store in a database

[royal nymph]

so you are storing the files in your database? or what

you really shouldn't

dbs weren't meant for that

use a filesystem with compression support like btrfs and store them as plain files

or use cloud storage like r2 / backblaze / whatever if you don't wanna bring ur own storage

it'll be much better and keep your db clean

or gzip the files but it honestly might be cheaper to just get more storage than get a beefier cpu to run all the (de)compressions

[wraith rose]

the problem is that I don't really have the budget besides the one I allocated for my vps

hence this idea

[lavish frigate]

smh

you have to suggest

an s3 cloud bucket

and then a vercel thing

like an aws lambda or whatever

like as the glue

and the you also need you ffmpegaaS

to process the files ofc

[wraith rose]

an s3 cloud bucket might occur extra costs which would be aganist what I would want

[ionic lake]

host minio

that's exactly what you want

[meager turret]

you can run the postmaster command and configure the data directory

and different ports etc ofc

pg 16 doesnt seem to have that command (15 does) but the postgres command may do the same, youll have to check

[grim flare]

is minio better than seaweedfs

[wraith rose]

I am not trying to move the data values.
I am trying to have them run independent

[meager turret]

yes, I am aware

postmaster is the binary used in the postgres process

postmaster is the PostgreSQL multiuser database server. In order for a client application to access a database it connects (over a network or locally) to a running postmaster. The postmaster then starts a separate server process ("postgres") to handle the connection. The postmaster also manages the communication among server processes.

[wraith rose]

It requires gpl and it seems to also cost extra if I wanted to use their page

[meager turret]

is gpl a problem if you are just deploying it on a machine?

[wraith rose]

It says I would need to use the gpl license for the project

Which I don't want to do

[meager turret]

not if you just deploy it and interface with it

i believe anyway

[wraith rose]

It says I would need to

[meager turret]

unless the libraries for it are all gpl as well

[wraith rose]

Anyway, I need to run two instances and I cannot do stuff rn unless I want to ssh via mobile

[meager turret]

you can run two postmaster instances yes

i have done it before

i believe you just need to set a different socket path and different data dir

[wraith rose]

I am trying to get two seperate instances of postgresql so pg_dumpall doesn't get the files

[meager turret]

running postmaster gives you a postgresql instance

[wraith rose]

And it will persist after reboot?

[meager turret]

yes, if you specify the same data directory again

you first may need to run initdb or createdb or whatever the command is on your specified data location

[wraith rose]

It might be harder to use and one time configure

[deep mulch]

@frosty obsidian im trying to unify the LocalPdfState and RemotePdfState classes into one

so usage would be simpler

[frosty obsidian]

ok

[deep mulch]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/280298381807714304/1096911808108961792/2932110070_preview_diecat.gif

also changing up saver implementation

it will store a reference to the url/file

[royal nymph]

no

if you host minio, you indeed need to provide the source (of minio only) to anyone who interacts with it via network (that's AGPL btw not GPL)

but if you have another program where all it does is send request requests to minio to store data, that program doesn't have any license requirements

and if your minio instance is private and only used internally, you don't even need to disclose minio code

[balmy lintel]

you need new cat pictures

[wraith rose]

Seems it would better to use psql and easier

[royal nymph]

do what you want it's your thing

but storing files in psql is bad bad

[wraith rose]

Idk imoog Does it and it seems fine

I.e.
https://github.com/justanotherbyte/imoog

Le rust version.
I was going to do something similar.
I use his rust version for cdn stuff

And minio seems to require providing a copy of the binary regardless and I don't want that

[lavish frigate]

set up an S3 bucket !

[royal nymph]

it doesn't

[wraith rose]

I would rather not use aws

Aws loves hidden fees

[meager turret]

depending on your needs you may be able to use backblaze

[wraith rose]

I am looking to store more than 10 gb in le file server and then display stuff

It's probaly at 14 stuff rn

[wraith rose]

It may easily get up to 20 gb

Does s3 even keep file name and other stuff

I also need the crc and stuff to not have duplicates

And it needs easy backup

Where I can get one big heavy file and reload it fairly easy on another instance this is why I prefer psql for this

[lavish frigate]

there are s3 equivalents you can self host (since it is very popular)

[lavish frigate]

yes

[wraith rose]

Is s3 sql or nonsql?
I don't like nonsql

[lavish frigate]

s3 buckets are not regular databases

its for file storage only

and its optimised for that

[wraith rose]

A free and safe host could be good.
I just don't want to pay extra than my vps cost rn

It would need to have read only via public means and some security for adding files

[lavish frigate]

then youll have to self host

no host is gonna give you 20 gbs of storage for free permanently

[wraith rose]

Kind of my point and I feel most comfortable with psql

[lavish frigate]

you can host both a database and a storage bucket on the same server

[wraith rose]

What do you not like about hosting the bytes in psql?

Do you have any articles with data and what they tried

?

[elder scaffold]

google

https://stackoverflow.com/questions/8952/storing-a-file-in-a-database-as-opposed-to-the-file-system
https://softwareengineering.stackexchange.com/questions/150669/is-it-a-bad-practice-to-store-large-files-10-mb-in-a-database

[lavish frigate]

yeah databases arent good at having giant amounts of data in single cells

[wraith rose]

That's stackoverflow which is a bit more opionated than what I wanted to look at

[wraith rose]

Slow down?

[lavish frigate]

yep

remember, sql databases are optimised for storing a TON of smaller data snippets inside cells

[wraith rose]

Postgresql handles data pretty well

[lavish frigate]

file storage is specifically optimised for files, they can compress them to save space, dont lock files (as opposed to databases which lock rows on access, making them very slow at serving the same file to multiple users at once), can implement caching for a speedup, sql databases have a max row size (so you literally cannot store large files), etc

but you very much seem like someone one cannot convince, use whatever you want

[wraith rose]

I'll use python to iterate and give me the biggest file size

In both directories

[lavish frigate]

😵‍💫

[wraith rose]

What?

Pathlib works fine for that

I am not even using .read()
I'm just getting what the os returns back

[lavish frigate]

you know you can just use shell commands right....

https://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/linux-find-largest-file-in-directory-recursively-using-find-du/

[wraith rose]

it doesnt' allow me to sort by type

[lone gust]

anyone know how to dynamically load a jar from a url in java (urlclassloader is broken af so using something other than that)

[lavish frigate]

yes it does

shell commands are very powerful

dont waste an hour writing a python script

search 5 minutes for a shell command

[wraith rose]

This is one directory

nvm

it just lists directory not invidual files

find "$(pwd)" -type f -printf '%s %p\n' | sort -nr | head -10                                                                                                                                                                     [15:13:11]
561815063 /home/jdjg/extra-content/other/ace attronetry concert.mp4
29102995 /home/jdjg/extra-content/Manuals/AnimalCrossing_NewHorizons_Starter_Guide_EN.pdf
27179832 /home/jdjg/extra-content/Manuals/Zelda_Tears_of_the_Kingdom_Mini_Guide_(English).pdf
20187592 /home/jdjg/extra-content/Album/2024/08/16/2024081615210800-DF3B4A41115FD7D06723242960C445E8.mp4
20187592 /home/jdjg/extra-content/Album/2024/08/15/2024081522264900-DF3B4A41115FD7D06723242960C445E8.mp4
20187592 /home/jdjg/extra-content/Album/2024/08/15/2024081521252800-DF3B4A41115FD7D06723242960C445E8.mp4
20187592 /home/jdjg/extra-content/Album/2024/08/12/2024081222195600-DF3B4A41115FD7D06723242960C445E8.mp4
20187592 /home/jdjg/extra-content/Album/2024/08/11/2024081122225900-DF3B4A41115FD7D06723242960C445E8.mp4
20187592 /home/jdjg/extra-content/Album/2024/07/21/2024072122530100-DF3B4A41115FD7D06723242960C445E8.mp4
20187592 /home/jdjg/extra-content/Album/2024/06/27/2024062715412700-DF3B4A41115FD7D06723242960C445E8.mp4

There

find "$(pwd)" -type f -printf '%s %p\n' | sort -nr | head -10                                                                                                                                                               [15:12:59]
20187592 /home/jdjg/extra-content-other/debugging clips/2023063012380500-45998392CB216ABF034EB6F98E399A06.mp4
20187592 /home/jdjg/extra-content-other/debugging clips/2023063012324600-45998392CB216ABF034EB6F98E399A06.mp4
20187592 /home/jdjg/extra-content-other/debugging clips/2023063010354700-45998392CB216ABF034EB6F98E399A06.mp4
20187592 /home/jdjg/extra-content-other/debugging clips/2023062922495400-45998392CB216ABF034EB6F98E399A06.mp4
20187592 /home/jdjg/extra-content-other/debugging clips/2023062909591400-45998392CB216ABF034EB6F98E399A06.mp4
20187592 /home/jdjg/extra-content-other/debugging clips/2023060811304900-45998392CB216ABF034EB6F98E399A06.mp4
19925416 /home/jdjg/extra-content-other/debugging clips/2023063014295500-45998392CB216ABF034EB6F98E399A06.mp4
19925416 /home/jdjg/extra-content-other/debugging clips/2023063014234700-45998392CB216ABF034EB6F98E399A06.mp4
19925416 /home/jdjg/extra-content-other/debugging clips/2023063014001800-45998392CB216ABF034EB6F98E399A06.mp4
19925416 /home/jdjg/extra-content-other/debugging clips/2023063013513300-45998392CB216ABF034EB6F98E399A06.mp4

[dusty moth]

this seems like a horrible idea

[wraith rose]

20187592 to 20 MB
561815063 to 562 MB

only one file is 562 MB

[lone gust]

its nessecary tho

[wraith rose]

so yeah max file for mp4s is 30 MB

except one outlier

[dusty moth]

why

[lone gust]

verification system

just making my thing im coding a bit more secure

[lavish frigate]

have you considered not using java

[wraith rose]

Java may be the coding language they know the best

[lone gust]

not possible

[lavish frigate]

they should change that

[lavish frigate]

why is it not possible

[lone gust]

bc i cant use something not java for something that is java

[wraith rose]

Because learning a new language can be really time consuming

[lavish frigate]

using java is time consuming

[lavish frigate]

am i wrong

[lone gust]

yes

[lavish frigate]

in what way

[lone gust]

?

[royal nymph]

UrlClassLoader is what you want

[lone gust]

yes but isnt it like buggy as shit

or at least when i used it it was

[royal nymph]

have you considered letting people use whatever they want and not being a nuisance about their choice

[royal nymph]

?

[lavish frigate]

no

never

i will never consider that

thank you for asking

:3

[lone gust]

when i was using it it was throwing a lot of errs and didnt really work

[wraith rose]

import pathlib

current_directory = pathlib.Path(__file__).parent
files = current_directory.rglob("*")

biggest_files = {}
for file in files:
  if file.is_file():
    if not biggest_files.get(file.suffix):
      biggest_files[file.suffix] = []
    
    biggest_files[file.suffix].append(file)

for file_type in biggest_files:
   sorted_files = biggest_files[file_type]
   sorted_files.sort(key=lambda path: path.stat().st_size)
   print(f"{file_type} files")
   for file in sorted_files[-3:]:
    print(f"{file}: {file.stat().st_size} bytes")
   print("\n")

not the best code but this works pretty well

[elder scaffold]

because you prob havent written a single line of java ever and dont actually have a good reason to hate it

[lavish frigate]

yea I have

public static void main(string[] args) or whatever

[elder scaffold]

Thats just the main function your ide automatically generates

[lavish frigate]

Fearful

[wraith rose]

You haven't even used Java

That's concerning if you are saying it is bad

[royal nymph]

java is pretty solid

[lavish frigate]

yea been intentionally staying away + no use for a legacy lang, at least c has some fun to it

[wraith rose]

20 mb is my largest file usually I think it would be fine except the 562 mb but that's just one

[wraith rose]

I tried c.
A little it's nice

Learnt very little rust.
Also nice

[calm ruin]

C is way more time consuming than java

skull

[wraith rose]

20 mb is not the large file you were concerned about

[lavish frigate]

yea i know

but c is challenging

so its more fun

ofc im not gonna use it for any project nowadays

c is definitely one of the more challenging languages out there

especially if you refrain from using any libraries

(what i did just to challenge myself)

[calm ruin]

I dont find challenging fun tbh

even doing simple string manupilation is hard on C

[lavish frigate]

i find challenging fun if im specifically craving for a challenge i.e. making something in C for practice

[meager turret]

python is bad for the environment

[lavish frigate]

i also used it to learn more about memory and memory optimisations

[lavish frigate]

😭

[meager turret]

im not wrong

[wraith rose]

Python has gotten way better and runs well

[meager turret]

its still bad for the environment compared to a lot of other languages!

[lavish frigate]

if you dont use rust or c you are a nazi as you are intentionally causing global warming i think

[calm ruin]

most languages have their usecases

I find python very useful if the thing I am making doesnt need to be very performant

it makes writing lot easier

[lavish frigate]

python is good for prototyping

[calm ruin]

java is pretty solid and great on OOP

alongside C#

makes complicated applications easier to make

[lavish frigate]

i think composition is better than inheritance

[calm ruin]

like games

[wraith rose]

Except vencord uses ts and js which you code in

[lavish frigate]

idts

[wraith rose]

I don't think most people intentionally case damage

[lavish frigate]

i make my vencord plugins in rust

rust to js cross compilations and stuff

my brain thought of javascript, typed java but did not autocomplete the script

[wraith rose]

Saying that x people who happen to do x on its own isn't really fair or accurate

You are over generalizing

And what if that's the only class they need to take and only one they can take?

[lavish frigate]

it is fair and accurate because i have said it

[wraith rose]

That's an unfair and not well thought out joke

[wraith rose]

Your joke is built on the presume of bad intentions.
Most people don't look into the power draw of both.
Just because they don't doesn't mean it's true.
It's a bad joke because it uses bad practices of speech.
It doesn't have the irony to make it funny

[lavish frigate]

im sorry but i literally said "nazi" thats sarcasm 😭 cant even make a joke anymore because of woke

[wraith rose]

I was doing a light critique of your joke.
Critiques are really old

[autumn sigil]

flutter

[ember notch]

have you heard of... rust?

[hushed pebble]

*compiling Rust to Wasm

[hushed pebble]

everyone knows Rust users always advocate for not using any language but their own

[deep mulch]

@frosty obsidian

i think ill make it have setting that uses templating

so you cna like

$timestamp: $message or however

and it fills in

its very easy to break

it also doesnt close the adb logcat processes it spawns for some reason

@frosty obsidian do you have any ideas I could add

[frosty obsidian]

filter by package name

[deep mulch]

okay

I was trying to add a search filter thing but

the logs keep pushing it off screen

have to investigate tomorrow

my code is so horror

I'm gonna add comments

[cosmic tiger]

#🪅-progaming

🪅

[ionic lake]

minio is not aws, its aws s3 compatible

[fallen nebula]

guys when you have an issue, always remember to put it on GH then do a PR if you can :w:
GooseMod/OpenAsar#179

OpenAsar settings under advanced unavailable on other languages than English
GooseMod/OpenAsar#191
Patch Settings Injection to work no matter the language

[distant totem]

uhhh

I just want to edit a existing plugin and give it to a friend

thats not possible no?

[dusty moth]

it is

clone Vencord, edit the plugin, and compile an installer

[distant totem]

i couldnt find where the pluin was

[dusty moth]

src/plugins/

[distant totem]

that was a dumb af timeout

im using the

regular client

dont strike me down

i found a workaround tho thanks

[dusty moth]

what did you do

yes this server has dumbass automods

[distant totem]

i dmed it to you

[wraith rose]

Minio's pricing also concerns me

also most files max are 30 mb

There just happens to be one that's 562 mb

[ionic lake]

you can't selfhost minio?

[wraith rose]

It requires gnu or gpl for using it

[ionic lake]

no it doesn't

my own bot uses components that are BSL lmao

[wraith rose]

I assume postersql and most databases can handle 30 mb per file just fine

[ionic lake]

you can set bucket quotas

[lavish frigate]

the software themselves is gpl..... if you want to add onto it (/make your own version of it) you will have to release the source code... if you are just using it you dont have to worry about anything....

[wraith rose]

Bucket quotas as in limits on what's stored?

[ionic lake]

size limits

such a long dwindled conversation about using postgres for object storage or not, but honestly I don't care, try it yourself and let us know how it went

[wraith rose]

I already use psql for someone's project.
It just needs me to make my own version for more fine control.
Their code us really fast though

Psql can handle files and That proved it

[dusty moth]

use this cool lifehack to make your code over 30x shorter

||folding||

[fleet cedar]

#![allow(warnings)], spicy

[dusty moth]

yes my ssh connection drops when I build without it

[glacial mirage]

#![allow(errors)]
instant fix to all your code forever

[dusty moth]

isn't that just unsafe and transmute

[digital wigeon]

ChatGPT is really the future.
I can respond to a lazy issue in a professional manner and get extra details out of the issuer.

w/o ChatGPT the issue would be bloated with me cursing at them.

If only there was a copilot integration for that 😔

Time to make Venhub, and add plugins for that
https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/731429343276040212.webp?size=48

[sand shard]

so true

"fuck you go read the readme"

[digital wigeon]

It is beyond that, they blatantly lie by checking the box that says "I've searched the issue tracker to no avail"

And guess what, most of the time it is a duplicate issue

[fleet cedar]

Users are very skilled at reading comprehension

[royal nymph]

true I should do this for vencord

answer issues with ai

how do you make the ai know the relevant data though?

[fleet cedar]

Haven't you already reviewed prs with ai sometimes

[royal nymph]

no..

[royal nymph]

do you just feed the readme and entire issue history?

[digital wigeon]

in this case, no data was really needed for chatgpt to write a message
I just provided the context for the message

for lazy issues like that, chatgpt does not need deep context

(assuming what you want to do is probe for more information)

you could maybe make a command, e.g. !moreinfo
and have chatgpt reply to issues with that command, asking for more information depending on the issue's description and title

[digital wigeon]

if its for detecting duplicates, then you could make chatgpt search the issue tracker for similar issues

[digital wigeon]

dude, I once got a feature request for an existing feature, that was clearly listed on the README

how are people more incentivized to open an issue rather than look up if the thing they are asking for already exists?

[spark tiger]

amazing

woke up to not being able to install any plugins here

[lavish frigate]

wtf

whats your region

[spark tiger]

🇷🇺

[lavish frigate]

ah

[spark tiger]

yeah

tbh forbidding installing plugins is way too much

they first blocked installing their software

now it's even plugins wtf

hopefully I've got a working VPN and JetBrains don't care that much to determine that I mostly use their software from russian IPs and decide to ban me or anything else as Adobe does lol

[quick crow]

Wtf lmao

[ornate quiver]

try downloading plugins from the website

maybe they don't block there

[spark tiger]

doesn't work either

a VPN is the only solution

thankfully it works that way

and yeah I can't even update my already installed IDEs

[ornate quiver]

damn

[spark tiger]

and I technically can't get the free student license here but in reality it's bypassed as easy as just choosing a different country lmfao

like I authorized with my github that has student benefits, chose Russia, it said I can't get it here, then just switched it to Kazakhstan and it went fine lol

well at least I don't have the gift nitro button in regular discord client :^)

[wraith rose]

ah the regulations aganist russia due to the russian urkanian war

That would explain things on your end

[spark tiger]

yeah but like

blocking extensions is something new to me honestly

[wraith rose]

Region lock has been on consoles forever except on the stuff like the nintendo switch

it feels weird sites doing it like this too

[lavish frigate]

the switch also has some minor amounts of region locking

[wraith rose]

if you do buy games digitally you need a nintendo account made in the region you want to buy from

I most buy physical games though

[lavish frigate]

i do not buy

reminds me

i need to boot my switch into cfw again

[wraith rose]

That's a lot of software.
I have a switch lite so I cannot mod it for custom apps and backing up my catridges

[lavish frigate]

ah

i bought my switch a year after release

didnt even know i could mod it until like 4 years ago

HOLY FUCKING SHIT

i modded my switch 4 years ago

[wraith rose]

you have a launch switch?

[lavish frigate]

how is it 2024

[lavish frigate]

yes

[wraith rose]

I would need to modchip mine and I don't have the tools to open this or anyone who knows how to solder it and properly

this also released:

I had it pre-ordered months ago

[spark tiger]

god bless steam deck 🙏

[wraith rose]

I have steam deck on my eventual grab list

The ace attronetry investigations looks good

[wind ivy]

should i make a contest

ill give people like 15$ if you manage to optimize my code more than it already is

[royal nymph]

welcome to sanctions

[spark tiger]

[royal nymph]

companies must follow sanctions

[royal nymph]

does the extension have purchases maybe?

[spark tiger]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

though I think I managed to install some

.ignore* one

[royal nymph]

you can just enable Russia simulator experiment to achieve the same

xD

[spark tiger]

oh lmao neat

[royal nymph]

LOL nice grammar error

[spark tiger]

also that should be very easy to bypass if I got it right

I mean to make gift button appear again

and make shops work again

like afaik it's just a http request that gets sent on client lainch

[royal nymph]

nah it's fully client side

u can likely just force disable the experiment

try it

set it to not eligible

[spark tiger]

hm unsure what this is for then

ah it's for billing

though not sure what that'd mean

this is the only usage of this endpoint I could find in the sources tab

[royal nymph]

have u tried this

[buoyant trellis]

probably stripe or whatever they are using for payments blocks russian cards

[spark tiger]

switched to "Not eligible" and the gift button appeared

[royal nymph]

there u go xd

but u likely still wont be able to make purchases

[spark tiger]

guh apparently pressed ctrl + r instead of ctrl + e

wanted to say thank you I can now access gift inventory and quests

not that I often use it but anyways

[spark tiger]

well yea I just use apple pay for that

though I'm gonna set it back to whatever it was because this gift button is too annoying lmfao

[spark tiger]

yeah stripe doesn't accept our cards anymore

[valid jetty]

@deep mulch do you love such simple IR generation

struct Foo<T, U> {
    T a;
    U b;
};

fn Foo::get_a<T, U>(Foo<T, U> self) {
    return self.a;
}

fn main() {
    Foo<string **, string **> foo = Foo { a = 0, b = 0 };
    foo.get_a();
}

compiled into IR

type :ElleMeta = { l, l, w, l }
type :Foo.__elle_generic.__elle_pointer.__elle_pointer.__elle_pointer.12.__elle_pointer.__elle_pointer.__elle_pointer.12 = { l, l }
function l $Foo.get_a.__elle_generic.__elle_pointer.__elle_pointer.__elle_pointer.12.__elle_pointer.__elle_pointer.__elle_pointer.12(:Foo.__elle_generic.__elle_pointer.__elle_pointer.__elle_pointer.12.__elle_pointer.__elle_pointer.__elle_pointer.12 %self.10) {
@start
    %.11 =l add %self.10, 0
    %.12 =l loadl %.11
    ret %.12
}
export function w $main() {
@start
    %.6 =l alloc8 16
    %.7 =l add %.6, 0
    storel 0, %.7
    %.8 =l add %.6, 8
    storel 0, %.8
    %foo.addr.9 =l alloc8 16
    storel %.6, %foo.addr.9
    %foo.5 =l loadl %foo.addr.9
    %foo.5 =l loadl %foo.addr.9
    %foo.5 =l loadl %foo.addr.9
    %.13 =l call $Foo.get_a.__elle_generic.__elle_pointer.__elle_pointer.__elle_pointer.12.__elle_pointer.__elle_pointer.__elle_pointer.12(:Foo.__elle_generic.__elle_pointer.__elle_pointer.__elle_pointer.12.__elle_pointer.__elle_pointer.__elle_pointer.12 %foo.5)
    ret 0
}

[deep mulch]

yes

[valid jetty]

well i made it use numbers instead out of spite

type :ElleMeta = { l, l, w, l }
type :Foo.0.1.1.1.14.1.1.1.14 = { l, l }
function l $Foo.get_a.0.1.1.1.14.1.1.1.14(:Foo.0.1.1.1.14.1.1.1.14 %self.10) {
@start
    %.11 =l add %self.10, 0
    %.12 =l loadl %.11
    ret %.12
}
export function w $main() {
@start
    %.6 =l alloc8 16
    %.7 =l add %.6, 0
    storel 0, %.7
    %.8 =l add %.6, 8
    storel 0, %.8
    %foo.addr.9 =l alloc8 16
    storel %.6, %foo.addr.9
    %foo.5 =l loadl %foo.addr.9
    %foo.5 =l loadl %foo.addr.9
    %foo.5 =l loadl %foo.addr.9
    %.13 =l call $Foo.get_a.0.1.1.1.14.1.1.1.14(:Foo.0.1.1.1.14.1.1.1.14 %foo.5)
    ret 0
}

[deep mulch]

insane

[deep mulch]

can I like

on a forked repo

take a single commit from upstream and merge it to my fork

[ornate quiver]

its called cherry-picking

https://git-scm.com/docs/git-cherry-pick

[wraith rose]

i would probaly not ask about that unless you could make a video on it and get extra revenue.
And make sure you budget for it too.

[thorny ingot]

vscode rust nerds: what are good exstentions for programing in rust for VSC

@lavish frigate looking at you

[lavish frigate]

only one you really need https://marketplace.visualstudio.com/items?itemName=rust-lang.rust-analyzer

[thorny ingot]

k

[lavish frigate]

its official and has REALLY good language support

[thorny ingot]

not the offical vsstuido one?

[lavish frigate]

?

[thorny ingot]

or whatev3er

theres

two

[wraith rose]

How much typescript and javascript would I need to know to make a vencord plugin?
Trying to get a suggestion of mine made

[lavish frigate]

deprecated

[thorny ingot]

im using vscodium

ty

[lavish frigate]

a lot

im not sure what the answer to questions like this is

because what do you expect as an answer

[wraith rose]

my suggestion was something according to a full group chat list and i figured it would be easier to try to learn the bare minimum to get it complete so I can finally view all my group chats as I am in so many

I think I'm in 40 to 50 group chats

[lavish frigate]

you cant really "learn the bare minimum" because you wont know to learn something until you need it, thats why i recommend just starting out and learning about it as you go

[wraith rose]

well, I tried learn some rust to make an application and that didn't go too well

[lavish frigate]

well rust isnt extremely mature yet so making gui apps is a bit... meh..

[wraith rose]

I was trying to rewrite image manipulation code in it and it was hell

I had to ask my online friend and some rando to help me

[lavish frigate]

rn rust is mostly used for cli apps or optimising/securing mission critical components in other software

[wraith rose]

I was going to have python bindings and run some pillow and wand code in rust instead

for perfomance reasons

[lavish frigate]

ah

[wraith rose]

https://github.com/JDJG-Holding-Team/jdjg-image-manipulation
it was this dumb thing

[lavish frigate]

i made a status bar specifically for windows in python but never really finished it because python is a pain so now im doing it again but in rust

[wraith rose]

Someone made a pull request for it but hasn't worked on it for a while cause they are busy

which so happens to be one function

[lavish frigate]

In the future formatted with rustfmt possibly automatically?
cargo fmt

[wraith rose]

cargo fmt?

I just know it's a tool that can auto-format similar for python

I also have no idea how much perfomance gains this will get with my image manipulation functions compared to c bindings running asyncio.to_thread() and having multiple functions going through python rather than all being in rust for example

Basically I have no idea if it will be worth rewriting in rust, it might be a waste of time

[lavish frigate]

cargo is rusts package manager, should be automatically installed with rust (if you use rustup, the default, of course)
cargo is also basically just an everything tool and its amazing
you shouldve used it actually if you have written any rust code before (cargo build/run)
it also provides formatting (fmt) and linting (clippy)

[wraith rose]

I have rust locally

Only problem with not being to write image manipulation code in rust i have no idea if it's worth it besides doing what I already in python

[lavish frigate]

probably not if its really just one function

thats what im getting out of your code

[wraith rose]

I run multiple functions from image manipulation though

[lavish frigate]

ah nvm i forgot you use bindings, i was only looking at the main function tbh

[wraith rose]

from io import BytesIO

import discord
from wand.image import Image as WImage

def invert2(image) -> discord.File:
    wrapped_image = BytesIO(image)

    with WImage(file=wrapped_image) as img:
        img.iterator_first()
        img.negate()

        while img.iterator_next():
            img.negate()

        ext = "gif" if len(img.sequence) > 1 else "png"

        img.format = ext
        data = BytesIO(img.make_blob())
        return discord.File(data, f"inverted.{ext}")

Like that, would probaly be pretty fast which it is

but a rust version would probaly run better especially with python bindings

but I have no actual data to disapprove or approve it

[lavish frigate]

well i have never done image manipulation in rust before but you are probably correct in your assumption that rust is faster (lol)

if you really do wanna make it in rust i could maybe suggest the assyst2.0 source code? It also has a couple of image manipulation commands https://github.com/Jacherr/assyst2/tree/master

[wraith rose]

I am pretty bad at rust ngl

I would need help getting my idea thing done

[lavish frigate]

though the code seems very abstracted so good luck finding the correct functions lmao

[wraith rose]

I want to find someone who actually knows rust to work with me on my project thing

and I wouldn't mind if they got control over the rewrite's version of the code

[dusty moth]

wait what's cargo

rust has packages??

[lavish frigate]

I literally explained it there 😭

[lavish frigate]

Crates, yes

[dusty moth]

what do those do?

[lavish frigate]

??

[hushed pebble]

r u trolling

[lavish frigate]

Definitely

[dusty moth]

no

[hushed pebble]

don't troll the rust programmers

rust programmers are too harmless

[lavish frigate]

https://tenor.com/view/angry-birds-jolly-christmas-if-i-roll-roll-a-twelve-gif-9788998869615835055

[dusty moth]

i fucking linked to c

thought you had to

what crate should I use?

omfg I can use multiple

this is amazing

[quick crow]

https://tenor.com/view/friyay-gif-16014539925533554039

[hushed pebble]

yes please

[jade stone]

how do you type a destructured array

this is what i thought of, and tsserver doesnt like it

[hushed pebble]

wdym

[serene elk]

let a: [string, number, string] = ["", 1, ""]

[hushed pebble]

[number, string, object]

[hushed pebble]

sadness

you beat me

[serene elk]

you can also name them

let a: [name: string, age: number, address: string] = ["", 1, ""]

[hushed pebble]

He's gonna destructure it, so no point

at least

I think?

[serene elk]

depends

sometimes its useful sometimes not

[hushed pebble]

yup

[jade stone]

thanks

[hushed pebble]

okay, you should name them

and what is the any for

[jade stone]

what?

[hushed pebble]

@jade stone this is the naming thing

[serene elk]

why

File[] moment

[jade stone]

for some reason, discord doesnt pass an array of files, but whatever that is

its not an Array object

[hushed pebble]

can you convert it to an Array

using Array.from

[jade stone]

yes

yup

[hushed pebble]

soooo

[jade stone]

but thats not whats its passed as

[hushed pebble]

uhhh

is this exposed to users of your library?

[jade stone]

this is a function called from a patch

[hushed pebble]

a patch request?

[jade stone]

😭

[hushed pebble]

a PATCH request?

[jade stone]

/*
 * Vencord, a Discord client mod
 * Copyright (c) 2024 Vendicated and contributors
 * SPDX-License-Identifier: GPL-3.0-or-later
 */

import { Devs } from "@utils/constants";
import definePlugin from "@utils/types";
import { Channel } from "discord-types/general";

type guh = [{ [k: number]: File, length: number }, Channel, any];

export default definePlugin({
    name: "AutoMediaCompresser",
    authors: [Devs.sadan],
    description: "compresser",
    patches: [
        {
            find: "Unexpected mismatch",
            replacement: {
                match: /(Unexpected.{0,100}if.{0,20}{)(.*?return)(})/,
                replace: (_, before, body, after) => before + "if(!$self.attemptCompress(arguments)){" + body + after + "}"
            }
        }
    ],

    attemptCompress([fileList, channel]: guh) {
        console.log(fileList[0], channel);
        return false;
    }
});

[serene elk]

could it be this maybe

[hushed pebble]

NO

NO CALLEE

[jade stone]

was this, im stupid and didnt check the prototype

[hushed pebble]

guh

[serene elk]

weird

where does it even originate from

[jade stone]

the type, or where this is called in the code

[serene elk]

my breaking point didnt call 💔

[serene elk]

where its called

[jade stone]

file upload when over size limit

[serene elk]

oh

didnt get called sadge

[jade stone]

i have sky load forced incase that matters

and the acc im testing on has no nitro

[wind ivy]

probably lol

im just confident since its very optimized already

(from like a year ago)

code is this if anyone wanna try

use std::io::{stdout, BufWriter, Write};

fn main() {
    let mut acc = 11719107999768421026u128;
    let mut out = BufWriter::with_capacity(1000000, stdout().lock());
    for i in 1.. {
        for _ in 0..94usize.pow(i as u32) {
            let mut buf = (acc - 9404222468949967490).to_le_bytes();
            buf[i] = b'\n';
            let _ = out.write_all(&buf[..=i]);
            acc += 1 + ((!acc & 9259542123273814144) >> 7) * 162;
        }
    }
}```

[autumn sigil]

this is quite cool https://youtu.be/zMRfCZo8eAc

[fleet cedar]

Well they're not wrong

[formal belfry]

how do i make a plugin edit a message that the user clicks on with text which is inside the plugin itself

[snow grail]

/run

x = [1, 2, 3, 4, 5]
print([i for i in x if i > 3])

[rugged berry]

Here is your py(3.10.0) output @snow grail

[4, 5]

[snow grail]

mods do I get the job

[formal belfry]

i think i would hire you yeah

[lavish frigate]

yea

[snow grail]

where's my paycheck

[formal belfry]

vencord badge

[snow grail]

never

horror DISCORD badges

[final night]

/run

let x = [1, 2, 3, 4, 5]
console.log(x.filter(a=>a>3))

[rugged berry]

Here is your js(18.15.0) output @final night

[ 4, 5 ]

[final night]

Im proud i did that on my phone keyboard

[deep mulch]

no

[magic ice]

yes

/run rust

fn main() {
    let mut x: Vec<i32> = vec![1, 2, 3, 4, 5];
    let y: Vec<&i32> = x.iter().filter(|&&num| num > 3).collect();
    println!("{:?}", y);
}

[rugged berry]

@magic ice I received rust(1.68.2) compile errors

warning: variable does not need to be mutable
 --> file0.code:2:9
  |
2 |     let mut x: Vec<i32> = vec![1, 2, 3, 4, 5];
  |         ----^
  |         |
  |         help: remove this `​mut`​
  |
  = note: `​#[warn(unused_mut)]`​ on by default

warning: 1 warning emitted

[4, 5]

[magic ice]

mb

/run rust

fn main() {
    let x: Vec<i32> = vec![1, 2, 3, 4, 5];
    let y: Vec<&i32> = x.iter().filter(|&&num| num > 3).collect();
    println!("{:?}", y);
}

[rugged berry]

Here is your rust(1.68.2) output @magic ice

[4, 5]

[magic ice]

why is that comic sans

why

[jade stone]

thats my monospace font of choice

[royal nymph]

chat husk react this user

[hushed pebble]

okay oomfie

[dusty moth]

i will never allocate you

[dusty moth]

/run ```haskell
{-# LANGUAGE NPlusKPatterns, LambdaCase, ViewPatterns #-}

x = 1: 2: 3: 4: 5: mempty
y = go x where
go = \case
(x+4):(go -> xs) -> x:xs
x:(go -> xs) -> xs
[] -> []
main = print y```

[rugged berry]

Here is your haskell(9.0.1) output @dusty moth

[2,3,4,5]

[austere idol]

None

the default language

[wraith rose]

May need to make a pr to vencord so I can access stickerstore through utils

[hushed pebble]

should I be using io_uring for only one FD

[jade stone]

iirc waitForStore

[wraith rose]

what do you mean?

I found:

Vencord.Webpack.findStoreLazy("StickersStore")

but it doesn't allow me to do much

[jade stone]

Not at home rn

Ask in #🧩-plugin-development

[wraith rose]

I don't have access to speak in plugin development

[royal nymph]

elaborate

[wraith rose]

I cannot access any internal methods

[royal nymph]

why not?

[wraith rose]

Proxy(Function) {length: 0, name: '', prototype: {…}, Symbol(vencord.lazy.cached): undefined, Symbol(vencord.lazy.get): ƒ}