haha
#🖥-vesktop-development
hybrid fjord
join the dark side
C native
hybrid fjord
but dark side xd
upper pine
all my homies use serenity os
hybrid fjord
all my homies use LesbianOS
upper pine
does that actually exist
hybrid fjord
as a joke
vernal lintel
hannah montana linux
upper pine
hahaha
hybrid fjord
upper pine
lmao
hybrid fjord
i like logo
ebon dome
http://www.lesbian.mine.nu/
what the hell is this?
upper pine
porn-get looks like real program
Imagine looking up docs or issues for that lmao
hybrid fjord
Imagine looking up docs or issues for that lmao
xdd
Google has another suggestions for it xd
vernal lintel
http://www.lesbian.mine.nu/
😭
upper pine
https://github.blog/2024-06-03-arm64-on-github-actions-powering-faster-more-efficient-build-systems/
LETS FUCKING GO
hot juniper
this is even more horror when you consider wmic is depreciated
i have a confession
like 5 years ago i made a rpc thing that showed my laptop battery for some reason
and it leaked like 3gb ram
because of thousands of wmic processes
gentle hatch
this is even more horror when you consider wmic is depreciated
wait what
hybrid fjord
or it should prob be `venRPPC`
venrpc?
upper pine
pp for c++ :P
hybrid fjord
vpppc
vernal lintel
can we name the fork arrppc lmao
is it even gonna be fork lol
upper pine
prob not
vernal lintel
we can come up with an original name
upper pine
venRPPC
upper pine
I will help
azure verge
[MenheraBonk](https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1057461517886443622.gif?size=48&...
so
like
simple groveBOT
upper pine
me using cpp is an invariant of the univewrse
upper pine
is this not good reason enough to use cpp? https://www.open-std.org/jtc1/sc22/wg21/docs/papers/2023/p2996r0.html
azure verge
explain it like im 3
upper pine
Compile time Reflection
azure verge
what does reflection do again (i am not a very knowledgeable progranmnerer)
upper pine
allows you to digest a type as if it were an object
i.e. list members of class type
or get the name of the members
azure verge
interesting
azure verge
i was wanting to work on a simple steamvr driver but openvr uses c++ 😭
upper pine
based
azure verge
no not based the syntax is hell
oh interesting
i requested my discord data package
it stores user volumes
upper pine
no not based the syntax is hell
I would say the same about rust
upper pine
yeah I absolutely hate the synatx xD
azure verge
to me (who is a genuinely very junior programmer) rust just looks a lot nicer to my brain
simple groveBOT
upper pine
why would you type var i: i32 = 0 instead of i32 i = 0
azure verge
its a lot easier for me to understand, but 
azure verge
why would you type `var i: i32 = 0` instead of `i32 i = 0`
well
upper pine
why would you type `var i: i32 = 0` instead of `i32 i = 0`
It's just way more to type for no benefit
vernal lintel
both suck
vernal lintel
inferred type >>
azure verge
^
upper pine
auto x = 0 :)
azure verge
let x = 0;
upper pine
but type inference does not work in classes for example
azure verge
good
upper pine
I still find int x; better than x: int
also rust has the function return type after the parameters
that's just unnatural
upper pine
in c++ we actually get to have both, int main() { ... } and auto main() -> int { ... }
which is nice
azure verge
because the function TAKES the parameters and THEN returns
so the parameters come first
upper pine
in C++ I get to choose what the fuck I want and in rust I'm forced to someones preferences
upper pine
so the parameters come first
most often I want to know what a function returns before I look at the params
it just makes sense to have the return type first
azure verge
personal preference ig
upper pine
ye ig
azure verge
like
upper pine
but templates are the main factor why I will always prefer c++
azure verge
tbf the way i learn programming languages is pretty stupid
upper pine
I also hate seeing all those unwrap calls in rust
azure verge
that's fair
upper pine
It just clutters the code so much with so many repeated things
azure verge
omg i need to find the image
vernal lintel
in C++ I get to choose what the fuck I want and in rust I'm forced to someones p...
the latter is better
why do you think people love opiniated formatters like prettier, or languages that have specific style guides (c#, go, ...)
upper pine
I hate them,
vernal lintel
it keeps things consistent and avoids arguments over subjective things
upper pine
Being forced to not use allman braces makes me want to kms
I think it's always good to be able to choose
azure verge
omg i need to find the image
a friend's project
println!("{}/{}",
json[0]
.get("PlayState")
.unwrap()
.get("PositionTicks")
.unwrap()
.to_string()
[
0..json[0]
.get("PlayState")
.unwrap()
.get("PositionTicks")
.unwrap()
.to_string()
.len() - 7
]
.to_string(),
json[0]
.get("NowPlayingItem")
.unwrap()
.get("RunTimeTicks")
.unwrap()
.to_string()
[
0..json[0]
.get("NowPlayingItem")
.unwrap()
.get("RunTimeTicks")
.unwrap()
.to_string()
.len() - 7
]
.to_string()
);
kill it with fire
brave tendon
my main critique of rust is that if you arent specific enough for search you get results for rust the game sometimes
upper pine
xDDD
hybrid fjord
ahjahaha
azure verge
my main critique of rust is that if you arent specific enough for search you get...
i AGREE
I LOOK UP THE MOST SIMPLE THING AND I GET LIKE
vernal lintel
rust lang
azure verge
"OLD GRANDMA RAGES AT PEOPLE STEALING HER STUFF IN RUST"
and im LIKE OMFG
NO
I DIDNT LOOK FOR THAT
lmao
marsh solstice
It all depends on use case. If launguage gives you much freedom it is good for prototyping as you can make something quickly, but without conventions it will become unmaintainable soon, and vice versa
Flexible langs have a small advantage that you can add some linter or something similar later when your project grows
Rust error handling has advantages when you nedd to be sure your program won't crash (for example embedded) as only small amount of function panics and in the rest you must handle the error, and there are also cases when it is too verbose and only gives you a wall of .unwrap()
upper pine
as only small amount of function panics and in the rest you must handle the error
same with c++ if you don't use the checked members btw
azure verge
tbf
rust for embedded is nice
and rust for desktop apps is nice
rust for stuff like kernel dev?
hell nah
azure verge
LMAO https://github.com/Vencord/Vesktop/pull/621/files#diff-32824c984905bb02bc7f...
i think that may be the memory leak the one user mentioned
simple groveBOT
The icon file size was changed to 512x512 as recommended in the electron builder's documentation regarding icon size.
This addresses the #600 issue regarding broken icon size in the Debian 12 LXDE desktop environment.
The icon size electron builder recommends for all platforms is 212x212 or 512x512.
gentle hatch
discord 
hybrid fjord
@azure verge WebRTC fixes from Chromium is in M-127 version. If you are on arch you can test it using chromium-snapshot-bin from AUR
simple groveBOT
upper pine
https://github.blog/2024-06-03-arm64-on-github-actions-powering-faster-more-effi...
We expect to begin offering Arm runners for open source projects by the end of the year.
fuck
upper pine
ye but not having to self host would be awesome
I mean we would prob get it at the end of the year anyways
But having an arm runner now would be nice indeed
upper pine
Bruh
upper pine
bro I saw this so frequently at uni
Every manjaro user lmao
"Yeah I use arch"
-> Manjaro
-> Does not know what an AUR Helper is
simple groveBOT
Check your Audio Settings, you can use a tool like pavucontrol to disable devices and choose the right audio profile for certain devices.
Disable all unwanted devices here and make sure you select the appropriate audio profile :)
hybrid fjord
How are you so calm😭
upper pine
I work with people that are way less cooperative on a daily basis
simple groveBOT
Here's what I see in the config, when I disable the GA106 HDAC and the Family HDAC (this one is my laptop speakers I believe) I have no way to get audio to play from discord without getting awful quality
I think it might have something to do with bypassing the sound card in my laptop as raw output? I have no idea. I screwed around with some various settings and on/off but none of them see...
upper pine
I don't think this is a vesktop issue
hybrid fjord
Does pipewire have any modules for phone calls?
upper pine
wdym lmao
hybrid fjord
On pulseaudio i remember something like that, let me find that
Fooor example something like that
Maybe he has something else enabled with pact load-module
upper pine
switch on connect simply makes your new device default as soon as you plug it in / connect it
hybrid fjord
Yeah, I'm not talking exactly for switch on connect
I mean that maybe there is some another module which loads in same way and doing something for this guy
upper pine
His problem is just that his headphones don't support simulatenous input/output without sacrificing quality
upper pine
Yeah, I'm not talking exactly for switch on connect
I mean that maybe there is s...
I'm fairly certain it's a hardware limitation in this case
vernal lintel
btw curve did u see my feedback on your pr
(no rush, just seems like you might have missed it)
upper pine
yeah, just pushed a massive rohrkabel update, will update in venmic as well and then update the PR
vernal lintel
oh alright
vernal lintel
what did u even change in rohrkäbelchen
vernal lintel
just modernising the codebase?
upper pine
Yes, a little, it was previously only possible to take ownership of raw pipewire proxys but not the fundamental objects like the main_loop, core, context and so on. I've now added the possibility to all wrapped types to take ownership of the raw-type or to "view" a raw-type, i.e. wrap it but not own it
And then I updated the pw_properties wrapper because the old one was quick n' dirty
pnpm always has this issue lately for some reason
reinstalling usually fixed it but now it seems completly borked
lol people are saying this is a kernel issue?
vernal lintel
probably is lol
wtf is a "bad interpreter"
never seen that in my life
The Linux kernel will generate a bad interpreter: Text file busy error if your Perl script (or any other kind of script) is open for writing when you try to execute it.
upper pine
what pnpm version do you have?
upper pine
deserved bug imo
hahahaha
upper pine
why is ur terminal white
Have Light mode on
vernal lintel
try to downgrade maybe
upper pine
yeah I'm currently updating system will reboot first
sly cairn
wtf is a "bad interpreter"
happens if you forget to dos2unix a script when sending it over from crlf land (windows) to linux
you can cause it by doing something like #!/nonexistentpath and then trying to execute it too
upper pine
@vernal lintel
TS Linter is playing dumb
Should I use null assertion instead?
Wtf
It works on share entire system
upper pine
TS should be able to figure out that exclude isn't undefined in the first case as well
Is this too much destructuring?
upper pine
good, I figured
pushed everything, and changed it to null assertion in the normal share
no idea what ts is on about, I also tried changing up the types but it didn't help
wait
maybe
nope that made it even more broken
alr no idea but it looks like the language server is retarded
upper pine
Bro wtf
tulip hare
no idea what that was
mildly late but I have this too and I'm pretty sure it's some jank with corepack and how it caches things
it goes away on reboot but comes back randomly sometimes (though I don't think I've had it for a week or so now, we'll see if it holds)
teal summit
is there a way to make Vesktop use the Vencord dev branch from github? (installed via flatpak) - I assume it's a no but maybe I'm wrong
vernal lintel
bottom of vesktop settings
teal summit
ohh, thanks
simple groveBOT
simple groveBOT
hybrid fjord
Not the logs in normal font😭
upper pine
btw curve did u see my feedback on your pr
should all be resolved ^^
hybrid fjord
if someone interested, i created fork of arrpc where in very fast way added fetching detectable db from Discord API directly
https://github.com/PolisanTheEasyNick/arrpc
vernal lintel
use global fetch or the https inbuilt module
hybrid fjord
i just wanted to make it work xd
hybrid fjord
use global fetch or the https inbuilt module
1 sec
vernal lintel
yeah but you're adding a massive library just to fetch one single url when nodejs already has that inbuilt xd
hybrid fjord
changed, thanks!
hybrid fjord
yeah but you're adding a massive library just to fetch one single url when nodej...
i even didn't knew about it xd
i'm quite new to nodejs
simple groveBOT
hybrid fjord
But here vencord-screen-share not connected to chromium
upper pine
But here vencord-screen-share not connected to chromium
Chromium doesn't even exist there
That's the issue
He prob has chromium running under another audio server
hybrid fjord
Chromium doesn't even exist there
It even looks like not problem with venmic but with adding track to MediaStream
upper pine
The issue is gonna be very cumbersome to talk through
I think the guy is in the "opposite" timezone
upper pine
This example: https://docs.pipewire.org/audio-capture_8c-example.html doesn't look too bad actually, maybe I could implement a pipewire -> pulse passthrough node some day, but pulse tunnel exists so it's probably not that useful after all
upper pine
@vernal lintel Do you know how the official discord client handles RPC? Is it a native module?
vernal lintel
check discord_rpc in ~/.config/discord/0.0.VERSION/modules
upper pine
Should we take the same approach as arrpc with the websocket?
Or should we just make a drop in replacement (if that's possible) and treat web support as an after thought
Ah discord supports both I see
Where is the discord code that actually handles the game discovery?
That's in a native module probably?
hm but there's no rpc native module
Seems like it's in discord_game_utils
@vernal lintel Should we just make a drop-in replacement for the game-utils?
- beforeUnload
- identifyGame
- findLaunchable
- isProtocolSchemeRegistered
- createShortcuts
- removeShortcuts
- setRecentGames
Are seemingly all functions, looks managable
Interesting, the game-utils has a working linux implementation that parses /proc, I thought it was just broken non functional on linux
vernal lintel
oh i see why exclude is wrongly nullable
youre casting it to a more generic type
- const data: LinkData = {}
+ const data = {} satisfies LinkData
Wtf
Causes this
hybrid fjord
This example: https://docs.pipewire.org/audio-capture_8c-example.html doesn't lo...
just don't do it and more people will install pipewire xd
upper pine
Yeah not sure If I'll ever do it, in case I do it will take a lot of time until it get to it
upper pine
<@343383572805058560> Should we just make a drop-in replacement for the game-uti...
@vernal lintel Opinion on this?
upper pine
Instead of making an ARRPC alternative, we could instead write a replacement for the discord_game_utils module with improved linux support and so on, that way we wouldn't even need to write a custom RPC Server
We could simply use Discords existing one
only draw-back would be browser support, which would need additional thought
hybrid fjord
for browser support we have arrpc vencord module))
upper pine
which is what we wanted to replace as well, no?
hybrid fjord
i have no idea how for plain Vencord in browser
upper pine
Would require a server running outside of the browser, as with arrpc
next sundial
could anyone here provide me a screenshot for Vesktop screen-sharing on Windows for me to include in my pull request?
upper pine
Would require a server running outside of the browser, as with arrpc
but we could mock the native modules calls instead of writing custom logic for rpc handling :)
hybrid fjord
could anyone here provide me a screenshot for Vesktop screen-sharing on Windows ...
take a look at #568
upper pine
Imo that would be way cleaner than modifying discords JS code and redirecting it to some WebSocket Server - We could simply replace the whole game-utils module and be done with it, the rest will be happily handled by discord
@vernal lintel fixed the types
hybrid fjord
could anyone here provide me a screenshot for Vesktop screen-sharing on Windows ...
also note that very soon linux screenshare modal will be updated again by #621
upper pine
@next sundial Consider using this for the screenshots:
next sundial
<@678334090704846858> Consider using this for the screenshots:
I'm afraid these github.com/assets links are going to expire, so I have added the screenshots to the main repo. About screenshots, Vendicated did not like them at the bottom, so that's why they're at the top.
upper pine
They're at the top in my diff too.
And they're not hidden by default, which is more desirable I'd say
Feel free to extract the screenshots from the given link into a file
next sundial
oh :p
sorry, I'm still learning how to read DIFF files directly like this
upper pine
Whoops, diff is actually in reverse
upper pine
let me fix that
next sundial
it's nicer now :p
vernal lintel
I'm afraid these github.com/assets links are going to expire
they wont
next sundial
about the screenshots, I prefer them collapsed by default because for ppl that don't wanna see them they can scroll through the README faster
hybrid fjord
Imo that would be way cleaner than modifying discords JS code and redirecting it...
that makes sense actually
would be great
next sundial
one way would be to add the width and/or height property by default
upper pine
Imo screenshots are really important in a readme, WYSIWYG
next sundial
but this would not be desirable because some ppl would want to view the full image
upper pine
Table handles the width/height automatically
upper pine
but this would not be desirable because some ppl would want to view the full ima...
Just click on it
next sundial
maybe something such as click to enlarge
next sundial
Imo screenshots are really important in a readme, WYSIWYG
I agree, but the current screenshot sizes are way too big
upper pine
That's not possible with Github Markdown, click on it and you get the complete screenshot
upper pine
I agree, but the current screenshot sizes are way too big
They're fairly small? (with my table)
next sundial
I would like to make them organized like in a table
hybrid fjord
Imo screenshots are really important in a readme, WYSIWYG
especially screenshare modal screenshots
if we show that we can pick sources how we want users would be glad to try it too
next sundial
like this:
A B
C
upper pine
... thats what my diff does?
hybrid fjord
That's not possible with Github Markdown, click on it and you get the complete s...
we can use html in github readme)
next sundial
@upper pine is there a git command for me to easily apply your patch?
next sundial
maybe we should do
A
B C
A would be the settings page, and B + C would be the linux screenshare
also, that's only on master, not available for general use yet (stable)
upper pine
Also possible, just a sec
hybrid fjord
would be great to include expanded audio sources picker too imo
but i'm not sure how to do it using minimal size
upper pine
Whats the theme used in the official ss?
hybrid fjord
Whats the theme used in the official ss?
vernal lintel
thats already outdated lol
next sundial
current settings page screenshot is from vesktop 0.4.3 IIRC
hybrid fjord
if you need screenshots from windows i could reboot
but iirc nothing changed for windows
next sundial
also, noob question, but I use github web directly or github desktop to send commits. I'm afraid that using git apply <diff> wouldn't work (I don't use git commands via terminal yet)
will try to apply the patch file via github desktop gui
upper pine
lmao, I can push into your branch if you want to
hybrid fjord
it is checked, feel free to
will it work? bc your fork is like on your account
i'm not sure, probably you need to give write access directly to Curve
upper pine
should work
next sundial
will it work? bc your fork is like on your account
yes, when the option is checked if the user is a mantainer on the upstream project then the user is allowed to push commits
hybrid fjord
fine then ^^
hybrid fjord
i'm not sure, probably you need to give write access directly to Curve
i did have issues bc i was not contributor yet while working with Kait for screenshare fixes
thats why i remember problems :p
next sundial
create a PR on my repo and I merge
upper pine
👍
hybrid fjord
xddddd
upper pine
Just stashing the images in case we need more:
```going to remove my uploaded screenshots to the repo
upper pine
hybrid fjord
wow, i like table
next sundial
table good, tiagoquix like table
upper pine
fuck I got the same ss in twice
hybrid fjord
https://github.com/Tiagoquix/Vesktop/pull/1
we did'nt even need like 5 sheeps😭
next sundial
fuck I got the same ss in twice
epic
upper pine
we did'nt even need like 5 sheeps😭
lmao
next sundial
np, send another pr
upper pine
Just change the first to https://github.com/Vencord/Vesktop/assets/37805707/2f8259b7-f9e6-47c4-b801-dacbef30027a
upper pine
Yeah, looks better on small displays
next sundial
which way looks better on small displays? your way?
next sundial
also
warning may be too "heavy"
I think "info" would fit better to not scare the average user
even though a warning is correct
next sundial
Info is not supported btw :D
you saw nothing
next sundial
👍
now PR is good
muchas gracias
it's funny to talk like I'm a cave man
tiagoquix like PR, thank Curve
upper pine
hahahjahaha
upper pine
that makes sense actually
so, should we do it this way?
hybrid fjord
i do not know how to do it T_T
But getting rid from deps as far as we can would be great anyway
very big L for arrpc for not updating games from discord api automatically
upper pine
I'd do it, just want approval lmao
hybrid fjord
for users who want arrpc there is always arrpc plugin so imo using native discord module for rpc would be great
upper pine
yeah, the native module approach would probably be a lot more robust as well, as we would not be fucking around with web pack and so on
could also be useful for people with the official client, that just want a libre drop-in
Funnily enough, I don't see how the native module gets the games list tho
vernal lintel
yeah, the native module approach would probably be a lot more robust as well, as...
we would still have to
because discord calls DiscordNative.requireModule("discord_rpc")
upper pine
It seems to only retrieve the executables info, so discord probably has the list loaded internally already
vernal lintel
we need to replace that
upper pine
because discord calls `DiscordNative.requireModule("discord_rpc")`
We'd only have to patch the isDesktop if above that (For Vesktop)
We can make it a drop in replacement / replace the original
vernal lintel
you have to replace DiscordNative with VesktopNative
vernal lintel
how
arrpc just dispatches a flux event
its proabbly still a good idea
because then we can also have working settings thingie
like where you can customise activities
upper pine
If the game-utils module is responsible for that
as far as I'm aware the game-utils only queries the executable info and is responsible for finding launchers and such
the rest is handled by the actual rpc module, which is implemented entirely in node
upper pine
* beforeUnload
* identifyGame
* findLaunchable
* isProtocolSchemeRegistered
* cr...
Those are all the functions of the game-utils
If we want something to customize the activities we could probably simply send an RPC event to discord, without even touching any of discords code
Btw, I've also looked at those discord wine rpc bridges, they're horrendus lmao
Inline assembly syscalls inside the wine binary to call native linux read/write
They could just use a wine native dll 😭
okay
so
should I write a game-utils replacement? Or should we take the arrpc approach instead?
vernal lintel
Btw, I've also looked at those discord wine rpc bridges, they're horrendus lmao
inline asm is from here https://github.com/goeo-/discord-rpc/blob/linux-under-wine/src/connection_win.cpp
vernal lintel
i figured its because the proper api funcs for this require windows libraries
upper pine
other way around
they require linux functions to "escape" wine
im not even sure if this is gonna work with wine-stagings seccomp syscall implementation
hybrid fjord
Curve is there way in your PR in picker when user picked "Entire System" close this multiply picker of sources?
vernal lintel
other way around
right
upper pine
Curve is there way in your PR in picker when user picked "Entire System" close t...
wdym? Close the include picker?
next sundial
btw Curve did you see my new comment on your commit?
next sundial
IIRC they still use this experimental capture method
hybrid fjord
wdym? Close the include picker?
yes, like this one
just for UX it prob would be better for user after he picked "Entire System" to start stream immedeatly or to excude what he wants
next sundial
not sure if it's available on Linux, I don't use their official crap here (it sucks)
at least they mantain an official distribution by .deb and also one via Flathub
upper pine
yes, like this one
just for UX it prob would be better for user after he picked ...
yeah that'd be nice, I'll have a look
upper pine
not sure if it's available on Linux, I don't use their official crap here (it su...
audio capture doesnt work at all on linux
next sundial
also something I noticed last time I used Discord on Windows was that it automatically installed the Widevine Content Decryption Module (Encrypted Media Extensions, DRM)
I hope this doesn't automatically come to Vesktop somehow
upper pine
impossible
vernal lintel
default should absolutely be None
next sundial
you can check in %appdata%/Discord IIRC
vernal lintel
most of the time u dont wanna share sound
next sundial
you will find some trace of widevine
next sundial
default should absolutely be None
maybe we can do the same idea as remembering the user last selection
or we can just add an option to change the default via UI
upper pine
Doesn't look like I can close it programtically
next sundial
I personally think we should match the official Windows Discord app behavior here, which shares audio by default
upper pine
I think we should match what is most comfortable for the user, which would be none imo
hybrid fjord
default should absolutely be None
it is None for now
I just meant when user opened source picker and picked "Entire system" then source picker remains opened and would be great to automatically close source picker
next sundial
or we can just add an option to change the default via UI
☝️ this would solve
and we can retain None as the default
next sundial
it is None for now
I just meant when user opened source picker and picked "Entir...
it closes automatically 🤔
lemme test rn
yep it closes automatically
at least on latest stable Vesktop
not sure what happens with Noah's branch
upper pine
it is None for now
I just meant when user opened source picker and picked "Entir...
vees comment was on another matter
hybrid fjord
it closes automatically 🤔
next sundial
is this using Noah changes?
next sundial
so this is a regression I see
upper pine
I can disable the fucking select lmao
upper pine
so this is a regression I see
that's inteded behavior
next sundial
also
upper pine
you can now select multiple sources
next sundial
that's inteded behavior
🤔
but...
shouldn't that be behind some advanced option?
I think it would be confusing for the average user
next sundial
I personally think if an user wants to share more than one app audio source then he or she will share the entire system audio
upper pine
discuss that with vee, he's the authority in this case
upper pine
I can disable the fucking select lmao
nvm I'm not sure if I can get a ref to the select
vernal lintel
it doesnt hurt to have multi select
users can just not use it if they dont need it
next sundial
I think not closing the menu by default is not the best option here
sure we can have multi-select
maybe do something such as
vernal lintel
I personally think if an user wants to share more than one app audio source then...
instead of he or she you can say they
next sundial
if the user holds CTRL then the menu stays open
upper pine
that's fucked up to implement and whos gonna tell them that's a feature
next sundial
instead of `he or she` you can say `they`
I know, but in my mother language it's a little strange to use a plural form, so I prefer "he or she", or just repeat the word (in this case, "user")
upper pine
we'd need an additional tooltip or similar to tell them they can hold ctrl
next sundial
that's fucked up to implement and whos gonna tell them that's a feature
a tooltip would be nice
"Tip: Hold CTRL to keep the selection menu open."
upper pine
I think that's just too much
next sundial
🤔
well, I still think not auto-closing by default would "mess" with the user somehow
but fine I guess
hybrid fjord
iirc that was discussed earlier and for now we have best implementation
only that UX moment with autoclosing
next sundial
not understandable, have a great day
upper pine
@vernal lintel it's so joever
Lmao
Disabling the thing
Doesn't even close
it makes it literally unclosable @hybrid fjord
hybrid fjord
xdd
upper pine
I can force the component to rerender
hybrid fjord
i'm trying to find a way to call onClose
or toggle closeOnSelect
upper pine
that's even more fucked haha
hybrid fjord
maybe best variant is actually update it in Vencord repo and add something
that could fit this usage
upper pine
that's even more fucked haha
that also doesn't work???
upper pine
that could fit this usage
isn't the component the same that discord uses?
In that case we'll have to follow their component stuff
upper pine
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azure verge
I know, but in my mother language it's a little strange to use a plural form, so...
that's understandable, but just so you know, they is plural AND singular in English :)
azure verge
like where you can customise activities
oh my fucking yes
next sundial
that's understandable, but just so you know, ``they`` is plural AND singular in ...
yeah, in English they is more natural because English is not a gendered language
azure verge
yeah
next sundial
so something like "it's their time" sounds natural
next sundial
I know about that, but there's also the "side effect" that they may imply plural, so he or she avoids that ambiguity
dreamy kiln
I know, but in my mother language it's a little strange to use a plural form, so...
I have the same issue, but you'll get used to this eventually
Just don't try to make plural when you're not sure if it's right
#🧊-off-topic-iceman-only message
next sundial
I have the same issue, but you'll get used to this eventually
mfw when English uses the letter S for both plural forms and 3rd person singular conjugated verbs
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vernal lintel
there hasn't been a new vesktop release noah
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sudden trout
woah it's dee
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hybrid fjord
who does have macbook?
hybrid fjord
ooh
how to port it? i found macosVibrancyStyle in Vencord settings and looks like it have all this settings and they must be accessible when running on mac
azure verge
tried to develop for vesktop
instructions unclear
somehow ended up in north Carolina and saw a cyber truck
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next sundial
eagerly waiting for a new vesktop release 🙏
mainly to fix the background sleeping issue
vernal lintel
just build from source it's pretty simple :p
upper pine
@hybrid fjord yoo the sheep arrived
hybrid fjord
xdddd
upper pine
Let's wait till tomorrow and then decide if we need to sacrifice them
Otherwise I'll gift them to a farmer
verbal yarrow
send sheep pics
hybrid fjord
Otherwise I'll gift them to a farmer
Farmer can multiply them
upper pine
I like the way you think xdd
next sundial
just build from source it's pretty simple :p
🚶♂️
nah I prefer to have my updates to be managed by Plasma Discover :) (I know this is not the case for Vesktop yet, as it doesn't have its own COPR)
and don't wanna deal with stuff breaking due to using the dev branch
humble mortar
just run vesktop-git or whatever it is on your distro
humble mortar
Yipppeee
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hybrid fjord
Omg why its so fucking complicated on ubuntu/debian systems😭
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vernal lintel
notification badge will work on non kde
next sundial
notification badge will work on non kde
cool
currently it doesn't work on KDE 6 unless a flag is set to mask as KDE 5
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azure verge
notification badge will work on non kde
i had no idea there was a notification badge
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humble mortar
guess we are cooked until https://github.com/electron/electron/issues/30085 happens
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hybrid fjord
saving your time Noah xd
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is this not the fix? try building with that electron version and see if it works
vernal lintel
average mint
upper pine
saving your time Noah xd
thank you so much xd
upper pine
average mint
somehow mints audio is super fucked
I don't know how they do it
When #621 merge :(
marsh hinge
e621
azure verge
oml i was so confused as to why I got a notif with just "e621" from this server
marsh hinge
😭
upper pine
what is e621
vernal lintel
oml i was so confused as to why I got a notif with just "e621" from this server
do u have notifs on for this channel 
vernal lintel
what is e621
furry porn site
upper pine
wtf
azure verge
do u have notifs on for this channel <:wires:1174435954090594505>
yep
I need to keep up to date 
I don't think I've missed a message here in weeks
azure verge
exactly
vernal lintel
ahahaha
hybrid fjord
furry porn site
How you know that😭 xddd
azure verge
oh yeah plasma 6.1.0 seems to fix a lot of vesktop related issues
this is a major one
upper pine
that was a fucking plasma issue???
azure verge
A-FUCKING-PPARENTLY
azure verge
Y EA h
azure verge
oh my god
upper pine
not being able to press a fucking button
because I dnd some text by accident because I'm fucking autistic
azure verge
REAL
upper pine
I have so bad ptsd now that I only hardware mute myself lmao
hybrid fjord
that was a fucking plasma issue???
I have some issues with dnd even in system
if I hold some file and drag to folder then it cannot be moved, cursor changes icon to like "blocked"
But fun fact, on mousemove if I release mouse button then file moves successfully xd
hybrid fjord
I have so bad ptsd now that I only hardware mute myself lmao
Im muting myself both hardware and software))
Software even twice: in discord and in panel icon
azure verge
i almost always hardware mute tbh
cuz my mic is just
tap the top to mute
so i dont really think about it
upper pine
Yeah same, I used to sometimes software mute to stop reaching out to the mic, but now I do it 100% instead of 95% of the time
just feels safer overall eitherway
azure verge
true
upper pine
Google is so cooked
Can't use search filters on image search??
They appear and then vanish behind the suggestion thingies
If I force them to be ontop their not even clickable lmao
azure verge
there's also literally no way to use google wallet on a device that doesnt pass safetynet which tbf i kinda get but UGHHHHHHHH i just need it for my uni ID and im on grapheneOS 😭
upper pine
Fuck this site
azure verge
google as a whole is a mess
upper pine
there's also literally no way to use google wallet on a device that doesnt pass ...
Yes
Fuck that
But that's the case for every wallet ig
azure verge
safetynet isnt even a safety measure anymore its just
"is this device googleify-able"
upper pine
I mean passing safetynet got a little more cumbersome with all the additional work the've put in to prevent that recently
But it still works thankfully
azure verge
im honestly gonna switch to rooted lineage with a hell of a lot of spoofing just to fix that
cuz i need the fucking nfc to get into my dorm 😭
azure verge
i wish
but the only way to get my ID card data
is to add it to the wallet
from a different app
upper pine
bruh
azure verge
y ea p
im gonna get a physical ID card in august when i move in
but i dont want to risk the printer being broken
as that happens a lot
once i get the physical one tho im getting an NFC tag sticker thing and putting it on one of my doom eternal keycards
best dorm key
upper pine
almost a literal key
azure verge
y e a p
but ughh
actually
dumb question
is there a good way to back up my shit from my phone
upper pine
swiftbackup
upper pine
swiftbackup
^^^^
azure verge
okiokiii
hybrid fjord
Backup /data partition)
azure verge
how the hell do i access it 😭
hybrid fjord
how the hell do i access it 😭
You're installing custom ROM?
Backuping /data without /data/media iirc will be compatible only with ROM from where it was backuped
So if you want backup application info you need to use another apps like Noah proposed or I can propose Titanium Backup
But maybe there is some newer apps, I was doing that very long time ago)
azure verge
its fine
i thought about it for a moment and realized
graphene doesnt give me root access so
i cant really access anything like that anyways
hybrid fjord
I think you need root for proper backup 😦
For some phones there is /data for read-only but looks like for newer phones it's not a case
azure verge
yeah
its fine ill grab what i can get
all my photos are saved
and as long as texts are too i think its fine
vernal lintel
it's so infuriating that so many people refuse to read
how are you even supposed to deal with it
vencord repo solves it by screaming at you but it's not very nice for the people who actually read and open good issues
teal summit
pain
hybrid fjord
I bet graphical glitches could be fixed if he just read the logs
dreamy kiln
It might be a good idea to do something similar to auto-close issues, when people are not reading templates 
But yeah, it also might just give more work to deal with "clowns"
vernal lintel
lmaooo
sly cairn
It might be a good idea to do [something similar](https://github.com/keiyoushi/e...
yeah i was going to do this but @vernal lintel said probably not a good idea
xd
vernal lintel
hybrid fjord
ahahahahahahaha we need this
sly cairn
the action is open source so we could totally do it lol
but we just have to find the right templates to add
vernal lintel
nah lol
maybe we could add auto reply + close based on keywords like "scaling", "drag and drop", "resizing", "blurry", "Failed to fetch https://api.github.com", etc
but def not the clown checkbox xD
red thorn
I feel like anyone who might be offended by that likely wouldn't be able to write a coherent issue in the first place
vernal lintel
it's more that if u have a bunch of checkboxes u might just autopilot check it even if ur issue is valid
tulip hare
the duality of autopilot checking boxes because you spent time and care writing the issue vs autopilot checking boxes because you didn't bother to put any care into writing your issue
woeful current
but def not the clown checkbox xD
maybe "I do not know how to read and just blindly checked all checkboxes"
combined to auto keyword detector
hybrid fjord
auto keyword detector actually can fakely close real issue 😦
unreal crest
heya
heard there was a nya~ method of injecting custom plugins into vesktop
is there a place to find out how and what is supported?
brave tendon
couldn't replicate this on steam deck running latest flapak/source build btw, audio sounds the same as the official discord client
vernal lintel
heya
heard there was a nya~ method of injecting custom plugins into vesktop
is t...
scroll down in vesktop settings
unreal crest
scroll down in vesktop settings
thanks
humble mortar
a previous comment mentions "loud popping and crackling" isnt that just the pipewire buffer thing and they just need to be increased
simple groveBOT
grand swift
gentle hatch
oh god, what is this gonna be, a vesktop paid subscription?
simple groveBOT
I did read it, but Interestingly enough other discord clients (webcord for example) and other electron apps (like vscodium) dont have this issue.
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upper pine
this should be pinned
vernal lintel
what does that do
upper pine
headphones often have a profile that allows mic and speakers to be used, which will sacrifice speaker performance so that the mic can be used as well
that turns it off
azure verge
okay so i had to switch back to windows after like 3 months because i got an index and i want to use the full feature set 😭 but oh my god stock discord is so slow
i got used to how snappy vesktop is
oml
woeful current
you should hop on vesktop windows
gentle hatch
you should hop on vesktop linux
woeful current
it's great tbh
azure verge
didnt know if it would be as good or not
woeful current
better than stock client
azure verge
cuz most of the work was put into linux
woeful current
I mean
it's vesktop
azure verge
fair
woeful current
but experience is much better compared to stock
azure verge
but experience is much better compared to stock
yeah no like
ive used vesktop for a few months
the stock client is SL O W
like wtf
woeful current
agreed
awfully slow
(I can't imagine the suffering of poor betterdiscord users)
azure verge
its actually taking noticeable time for what im typing to appear
like
what the hell
gentle hatch
hop on vesktop :3
woeful current
are you running the 64bit version (just wondering)
azure verge
im not on a slow system either
hw accel is on and i have a 6800xt and ryzen 5 3600 😭
azure verge
are you running the 64bit version (just wondering)
yeah
afaik at least
i just grabbed discord from winget
woeful current
it's just poorly optimized app ig
vernal lintel
how is it?
well it's very good but it's trash for screensharing
azure verge
oh? why
vernal lintel
cause we just use the browser capturer which is awful
azure verge
oh god
vernal lintel
discord's native impl is a lot better
azure verge
i think ill suffer with slow client
woeful current
do you screenshare that much
vernal lintel
personally i usually screenshare not more than a few times a month, so when i was on windows i would just switch to discord desktop whenever i wanted to do that
azure verge
i only did that stuff cuz i stream all the fuckin time lmao
vernal lintel
and used vesktop for the rest
vernal lintel
i'm still baffled by how they made their desktop app so laggy
like wtf are they doing
vernal lintel
it does exactly the same thing as vesktop. they both load the same website. the only difference is the native code
vernal lintel
you know those native discord modules? discord_*
try deleting the ones that you don't need and see if it improves performance xD
azure verge
you know those native discord modules? `discord_*`
no 😭
vernal lintel
(i am not responsible if u brick ur discord)
azure verge
lmao
i can always reinstall thanks to vencord cloud settings sync
this is not sponsored
sadly