📙-client-mod-wiki

[opaque jewel]

from what ive been told it was only message snooping

[signal carbon]

if it aint broke, dont fix it

[tardy cedar]

😭 "only"

thats alr bad lmao

[sleek frigate]

we went back in time

[supple girder]

what the fuck

[compact olive]

oh

[opaque jewel]

i mightve typod a date whoops

luckily i left the citation there so anyone can correct it

[supple girder]

has anyone thought of making a page showcasing absolutely horrible code found inside discord

if no

can we change that

[cobalt reef]

Be the one to change that

[supple girder]

~~Give me an account then ~~

[cobalt reef]

Later

[wraith cedar]

Could I get one too

[cobalt reef]

dms

[supple girder]

no husk on vencord wiki

time to change that

dark mode husk

what is husk licensed as

[supple girder]

Thinkies

(Not actually going to submit as that, just thought it was funny)

waaaaaa

@cobalt reef would discord shitcode hall of shame be a single page or a category of files or what

[cobalt reef]

make it single page and dont name it shitcode

[supple girder]

ofc not

what is a good name

[cobalt reef]

good question

maybe "Weird_Discord_Codes"

[supple girder]

hm

might start a thread here to temporarily dump things to put on that page

[languid blade]

Lots of weird snippets are probably caused by minification, but not everything

[supple girder]

horrors found inside discord's code

[supple girder]

not talking about weird snippets
i'm talking about cursed stuff

[tardy cedar]

grammarly kinda shite

who tf says afterward

afterwards

[grizzled sail]

if only there was a mix between british and american english that wasn't canadian

[tardy cedar]

AWWWFFUUUUULLL

stop this nonsense

[grizzled sail]

unicode is technically a proper noun ig

[languid blade]

https://64.media.tumblr.com/912577bc645aab5b0f61c777f3b09722/fad123aefbcc4f7c-4e/s1280x1920/fb6a182aaac0dcb3d83003af31d34d2bfd4677be.png

[tardy cedar]

what dinnered

[grizzled sail]

but uzing Z's for -ise looks so bad

[languid blade]

Yeah I guess not but it's funny

[tardy cedar]

you will disable it immediately

or hop off grammarly

[languid blade]

Quite the opposite really

[sterile wigeon]

australia mentioned

[tardy cedar]

INDIAN ENGLISH

none

[grizzled sail]

you pick aussie and it starts adding swears every few words

[tardy cedar]

if you can't disable "correction" of local spellings then either don't use grammarly or undo them manually

[deep shard]

Tonnes of people. Mostly American, but there are times when it just fits the sentence better, same with forward(s) and backward(s)

"What happened to the dinneridoo"

[tardy cedar]

yeah do not

changing spelling to one locality is mid

single articles should use consistent spelling but different articles don't have to use the same spelling

guh this just changes the meaning

this changes it from "the oldest" to "one of the oldest"

[deep shard]

Doesn't that thing have support for multiple languages anyway? Can you not just let the user select the locality or language?

No, I mean the wiki itself. You can have the same article in multiple languages

[languid blade]

You think people would care to maintain the same article in multiple languages?

[tardy cedar]

wiki should be only english

anything else is insane

[signal carbon]

make wiki in french

[stray knot]

ptbr.wiki.vencord.dev

[signal carbon]

yes

[sleek frigate]

I will translate all wiki to pt br

(it's too much)

[signal carbon]

do we even have an official way to translate

like on wikipedia

[sleek frigate]

no idea

I don't manage the wiki to know

[deep shard]

It seems like it

[cobalt reef]

@tardy cedar

why was undress even in replacement list

[tardy cedar]

undress you

[cobalt reef]

lmaoo

[cobalt reef]

NOP

[tardy cedar]

eat you

fart you

beat you

BREED YOU

[cobalt reef]

I will port goodperson to vencord alhamdulillah

[tardy cedar]

this plugin is horrible

[cobalt reef]

nop very good

imagine writing
"I will kill you" and it changes to
"I will breed you"

does its job

its no longer offensive

[languid blade]

Why is allocate in the replacement list

[sand owl]

I kinda want to try this 💀

[cobalt reef]

its good person plugin on aliucord

[sand owl]

Good person vencord edition when

[cobalt reef]

I'd make but ven would probably not merge it

[signal carbon]

cant textreplace do it

ven is not merging it

[cobalt reef]

technically it can

but seeing the words would spoil the thing

while writing replacement words I picked so many random stuff

to make it more interesting

[hardy geode]

"I will allocate you"

[signal carbon]

good

xor encrypt the words too

so no one can see them

[cobalt reef]

how will textreplace decrypt it

[languid blade]

Add xor support to textreplace

[cobalt reef]

horror

[cobalt reef]

NO

[languid blade]

I feel like that torment may be a self-inflicted one

[next forge]

nah not really

"one of the" would optionally apply to "oldest" here

at least that's how i read it

english is funny

[next forge]

norp be consistent

[tardy cedar]

no

that makes no sense

even wikipedia isn't consistent

because it's pointless

there is no correct form

[stray knot]

as long as the idea is actually communicated then who cares

language isn't about rules

[graceful hamlet]

javaaarghh

[deep shard]

I thought the same when I first read it, but it hit different the second time. The plural makes it uncertain. If it wanted to shorten it, it should have just done this: "One of the first client mods, now the oldest active"

[graceful hamlet]

isn't it simply the longest running mod

why change

[wraith cedar]

oops
how did i not see that

[next forge]

yeah it's def uncertain

[tardy cedar]

BDCompact

die

Open-source is correct

well open source also is

[cobalt reef]

Open-Source?

[next forge]

yeah open-source would be the adjective

[opaque jewel]

@tardy cedar opinions on making a generalized "Bundler Updates" page and redirecting swc change to a section in that page

[tardy cedar]

souns good

[compact olive]

documenting all the microupdates too would be pretty funny

but i dont think anyone kept track of those lmao

[cobalt reef]

People like @sharp carbon keep track of all that

But yeah writing id a problem

[sharp carbon]

[digital sparrow]

wdym by micro updates

i have a list of a couple of major changes to the chunk formats and bundler changes

[wise oxide]

forgot what channel i was in

[cobalt reef]

Bundler Updates page is pretty nice

I didnt even know half of those were a thing

[digital sparrow]

Discord switched from Webpack to SWC
this is kinda inaccurate, or rather wrongly structured, they didn't switch to swc, rather added swc minification to their webpack config

btw i can provide build ids for these changes

[spice canyon]

its the best

[opaque jewel]

babel to swc then

and then fix rspack to say webpack to rspack

[digital sparrow]

yop

[opaque jewel]

fixed

[digital sparrow]

pog

[lunar pine]

Reinstall wiki with mediawiki 1.15

It very good version definitely not 15 year old php junk with lots of rces

[supple girder]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1015060231060983891/1212567726204129291/IMG_3242.gif

[spark bramble]

Wiki eepy

[cobalt reef]

contrint

I actually want to write about ven event on replugged but gotta go look how it all started

[inland owl]

tgeres a broken link in the wiki

[supple girder]

me when i request an account, upload [husk] and hesitate to actually make what i wanted

[fair arch]

i’m gonna make a wiki page about how to get a wiki account

[supple girder]

good idea

[languid blade]

Write a wiki page about the experience of writing that page

[supple girder]

[languid blade]

I agree

[next forge]

can i get an account

[tardy cedar]

yop

its funny how the wiki was super alive the first few days now its less active

me with literally anything

[deft mulch]

I was contributing to the shelter page but sink will do it better than me anyway so

[deep shard]

You say super active, but wasn't it only like 5-10 people creating a page, writing a paragraph or two, then complaining about grammar? That's what it looked like from an outside perspective anyway

[supple girder]

This is also how I feel

And y'all have the urge to use Grammarly whivh totslly isnt some AI powered bullshit nowadays

[frosty bay]

Ok guys, grammally plugin when?

(this is purely a joke)

[supple girder]

Those [insert insult here] said you can't do that anymore

[frosty bay]

O

💀

Rip

[supple girder]

they got the ai training data

[frosty bay]

I mean it's possible

Wanna work together on it? I don't know how to code but ik how to find stuff on reddit 🔥

[supple girder]

No

I dont even use Grammarly

[frosty bay]

Same

But

🔥

Alr

I'll be back

Soon

[cobalt reef]

Thats what wiki writing is basically

When it comes to client modding there arent extreme amounts of people that know the lore

But eh thats best we can do

[stray knot]

limiting who can sign up doesn't help

[tardy cedar]

but its necessary

you love spam bots

[graceful hamlet]

oh god yeah

it doesn't seem to matter how obscure your site is

i saw a random forum for wip project with like 0 stars get raided

[lament wraith]

hewos I'm late but can i get an account

[tardy cedar]

what name do u want it ot have

[lament wraith]

katlyn would be neat

[tardy cedar]

sorry i can only do xX_katlyngaminghd72_Xx

is that also okay with you?

[lament wraith]

sure xP

gonna become the most mlg wiki editor

[lament wraith]

i will just cite the page on https://wiki.katlyn.dev/

(it's down right now don't worry about it)

[compact olive]

happens with uhh

pretty much anything

kinda ble but i get it

[wraith cedar]

A page on CC could be really useful, but I don't even know anything about it myself

[cobalt reef]

insane

are you gonna make a plugin just with reddit threads

[frosty bay]

I'll try, + I have chatgpt 🗿

[cobalt reef]

grammarly api is utterly deranged

they estabilish 2 websockts

one of them collects every thing you done, like even hovering on a text

also returns replacement words for broken texts which have "action":"alert"
then they have another websocket

and that is used to send the document contents

like why????????

auth seems simple at least, just a simple oauth with no protection it seems

https://www.deepl.com/write btw this seems cool too

[frosty bay]

Hmm, I'll try using that then thanks bro🫡

[late sapphire]

I better write one then

[deft mulch]

I can also help

[wraith cedar]

[graceful hamlet]

please don't submit ai written stuff ;-;

[digital sparrow]

please don't submit ai written stuff ;-;

ftfy

[indigo coral]

@cobalt reef i will have the account with the username "catgirl"

[indigo coral]

@tardy cedar we should ban manti for ignoring me

he's probably eeping actually

[faint owl]

Goodnight 🌃

[cobalt reef]

never

[indigo coral]

:(

[cobalt reef]

I dont believe you can contribute anything meaninful

[indigo coral]

wow fuck you too

just get me exhq

[cobalt reef]

okay

[deep shard]

I don't have any plans to contribute, but can I get the username catgirl? Just so exhq can never have it?

[indigo coral]

im going to steal your hands so you have to program with voice to text

[indigo coral]

#1216554461984723165 message

obviously this was an excuse to say a bunch of swear words in the wiki

[late sapphire]

pretty happy with that cc page now

still more info to add eventually but this is good

[cobalt reef]

pretty nice

[old walrus]

bruhhh

what next, a damn uninstaller named Ejaculation.exe

[deep shard]

I think if it were following the theme it would just be called Ejaculate.exe

[tardy cedar]

don't give them ideas

[tardy cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/write-that-down-taking-notes-school-universities-university-gif-17937210

them rn

[old walrus]

[lament wraith]

i will add more powercord lore later

[deft mulch]

the installer was called impregnate

[still silo]

actually it'd be called Abortion

[deep shard]

That's not following the theme at all. The rest of the stuff seemed to be just different names for semen. Why would they branch out like that and ruin the joke?

[tardy cedar]

well it'd be removing what the semen did

ig

[lament wraith]

is there a particular reason TOC is disabled on https://wiki.vencord.dev/article/Bundler_Updates

seems to have enough contents on it that a TOC would be helpful

[elfin turtle]

lol why does the powercord page have 2 typos of aetheryx as "aetherix"

[lament wraith]

because i wrote it late at night xP

and I need to do lots of editing

[elfin turtle]

lmao fair enough

[lament wraith]

we don't have the draft extension (that i saw?) so I kinda just published what I had

[next forge]

wouldn't the __getLocalVars() removal be relevant here

[tardy cedar]

not really tbh

it wasn't used much by vencord

maybe by other mods?

i mean we could add it it's kinda relevant

[languid blade]

I've seen __getLocalVars() in the devtools, did it used to be something that actually existed?

[tardy cedar]

yes

it was a method on every store that would return all local variables used by that store

pretty useful

[languid blade]

Yeah I can imagine

Those local variables being unavailable is kind of a pain sometimes

But in most cases the existing methods are sufficient

[lament wraith]

(my last edit to the page added the TOC back, if for some reason it's not supposed to be there someone can remove it again)

[late sapphire]

we liked it over in shelter land fwiw

[next forge]

i liked it😔

[severe meadow]

is there a page on zeet and how they constantly husk ANYTHING anime related

i think that’s very crucial to the vencord lore on the wiki

[supple girder]

This is important

[stray knot]

zt has a user page

you can edit

[supple girder]

i will add husk

(or not idk)

[next forge]

valid

[compact olive]

a general page on aliucord lore would be funny

so many dumb things here came from aliu

[next forge]

alien lore⁉️

[deft mulch]

dumb things that I can recall:

• husk/horror/insane/stupit/explode and any other word I may have missed
• pot of greed
• meow/balls gaming
• hop on bloons
• ximi

[cobalt reef]

I wrote some of them

Like encryptdms, huskbot incident

Also need to write nitrospoof incident sometime

[deft mulch]

wow your vibe-rating plugin name is prohibited here

insane

[cobalt reef]

I'd rather not write that

Not so proud

[deft mulch]

when version 3

[cobalt reef]

Neverr

1 april is incoming

Aliucord people will love my april fools white theme joke

For the 3rd time

[deft mulch]

lmao my old pfp is in that

classic message

[compact olive]

my screenshots folder takes up almost as much space as a typical node_modules

horror

(live 1tb ssd for whatever reason reaction)

need to go bigger

[deft mulch]

my pip folder is larger with all the pytorch and mamba downloaded dependencies

trolley

[compact olive]

i havent even checked my pip or whatever folder

i found some random project with rust build folder taking up a gig

[languid blade]

Only one? That's tiny

25 gigs isn't too uncommon

[compact olive]

yeah i dont use rust normally lol

glad

[cobalt reef]

#811261478875299840 message it has 42 star now lmaoo

[rigid jungle]

Nathaniel B

[fair arch]

just you legally obligated reminder that @tardy cedar stared this github Repository

[rigid jungle]

plugin that sends your lovesense code in every channel every 5 minutes

[cobalt reef]

I had to google that

All sorts of cursed stuff appearws

Go die

[frosty bay]

@cobalt reef
need account :/
username : Tr0ll

[cobalt reef]

What do you plan to contribute

[frosty bay]

editing stuff idk, i haven't read all of the pages yet but mostly just adding info, creating pages if needed etc.. i guess many stuff

[hardy geode]

There's a Shiggy page, a Venny page
But no Oneko page

[frosty bay]

was planning to edit this one btw
https://wiki.vencord.dev/article/No_Text_To_Speech
&
add some for https://wiki.vencord.dev/article/Category:Plugins

[cobalt reef]

fine

[frosty bay]

thanks hot boi

[late sapphire]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neko_(software)

[frosty bay]

im new to this, how do i add more pages

[cobalt reef]

edit url path

also if you never used mediawiki learn

you need to specify category and stuff

[frosty bay]

oh yeah i edited some pages btw i read their faq and learned a lot :)

this is like my first time using mediawiki

i used to use notion for wikis

i guess notion is not that good

[late sapphire]

I think notion is kinda for a different purpose

more for knowledge bases and notes

[supple girder]

@frosty bay you should move your profile picture

[frosty bay]

yeah i will

https://wiki.vencord.dev/article/User:Tr0ll

i just finish wriitng this ;-;

am i getting removed

[supple girder]

why do all your files have trailing space

[frosty bay]

i have no idea how to fix that

i uploaded transparent images

[supple girder]

Don't worry

MediaWiki leaves redirects

[frosty bay]

what

for what

[supple girder]

@frosty bay i should probably make my own user page

[frosty bay]

yeah u should

it only took 30 min to write mine

[supple girder]

I moved your files to be less generically named

[frosty bay]

oh right i see

thanks a lot hot boi

how do u remove this border

is so disgusting

[supple girder]

where

[frosty bay]

the padding on the pics

[supple girder]

idk

[frosty bay]

@frosty bay left the chat :3

[frosty bay]

30 stars💀

[frosty bay]

someone add infobox to this
https://wiki.vencord.dev/article/MessageLogger

i gave up

i gave up tryn to figure it out

[opaque jewel]

look at another page

[frosty bay]

yeah it didnt work

i tried everything they do

i even copied paste the code

[opaque jewel]

skill issue

[frosty bay]

it just messes everything up

[wraith cedar]

actual skill issue

[frosty bay]

im murdering ur whole family

[opaque jewel]

nop

[frosty bay]

HOW Is that a skill issue i tried for 1 hour and it didnt work

[wraith cedar]

this was the first time i used mediawiki and my infobox worked perfectly

[frosty bay]

im gonna go watch a tutorial

[wraith cedar]

also grammarly is gonna have so much fun with your user page

[frosty bay]

oh yeah i didnt use that

do i really need to

my english is so perfect that i got a a nobel prize for it

[wraith cedar]

he also edit this vencord wiki!

[frosty bay]

what

[tardy cedar]

https://wiki.vencord.dev/article/MessageLogger doesn't make a lot of sense

vencord is not the only mod that exists

[graceful hamlet]

autum

[tardy cedar]

and autumn did not work on it originally iirc, neither did i

[frosty bay]

i barely know the backstory

[tardy cedar]

then why write an article if you have no idea

[frosty bay]

i edit

[frosty bay]

i had no idea that u didnt orginally worked on it

[tardy cedar]

overall all your contributions so far have been of low quality

[frosty bay]

this is kinda my first article that i wrote in mediawiki

[cobalt reef]

if u dont know about it why write

when you are gonna write something either look back and try to find the original info or just dont write

[frosty bay]

i mean ur right, it was my fault

i will try to do that next time

there is no info about message logger online

[frosty bay]

barely

[hardy geode]

oh damn, I am so uncultured
I genuinely thought it was something originally created here lol

[cobalt reef]

I mean then dont write and let people who know about it write

[frosty bay]

sure

[frosty bay]

how do u delete files in mediawiki, i can;t find it in their faq

[cobalt reef]

what do you want to delete

[frosty bay]

the duplicate image i uploaded by accident

both of them i guess since i was trying to figure out info box and somehow failed miserably

[cobalt reef]

deleted

[frosty bay]

ok

[cobalt reef]

anyway leave message logger page

[late sapphire]

any potential msg logger page should definitely cover mlv2 for bbd

[tardy cedar]

plugin pages should always cover general history across mods and how the plugins developed over time

mod specific info should either be a section, or as smth like https://wiki.vencord.dev/article/Vencord:MessageLogger

[frosty bay]

so ur implying that
vencord specific plugins should be in vencord category?

[tardy cedar]

also what the hell is https://wiki.vencord.dev/article/User:Tr0ll

this is not your personal blog

[frosty bay]

oh yeah i noticed

[graceful hamlet]

isn't it basically a bio

[frosty bay]

should be fixed now

[graceful hamlet]

i noticed similar stuff in wing's

[frosty bay]

technially but i think vee is implying that nothing outside that is not somehow related to vencord smth

[tardy cedar]

wings is at least relevant

mostly

[graceful hamlet]

mostly

[cobalt reef]

rusher made message logger on vencord right

time to look git log

[tardy cedar]

yes

[cobalt reef]

yea

[frosty bay]

@tardy cedar did the vbam cmd got removed?

[stray knot]

User: pages are actually supposed to be profiles

if it wasn't a User: page then yeah don't treat it like a blog

[tardy cedar]

user pages should be on topic

[cobalt reef]

I agree user pages should contain information about profiles but that page had nothing to do with client modding

[lament wraith]

hardcore wikipedia editor user pages go crazy sometimes

[stray knot]

oh it didn't

yeah then vees right

[cobalt reef]

your page is fine

at least half of the page is about aliucord plugins/related to client modding

[stray knot]

whar

i was referring to that guys page not being related to client modding

[cobalt reef]

oh okay

misunderstood troll

[lament wraith]

i will create User:katlyn/sandbox and fill it with sand

[stray knot]

do

[tardy cedar]

i improved https://wiki.vencord.dev/article/MessageLogger

these screenshots are awful

imo screenshots should use default Discord theme

[stray knot]

dark?

[wraith cedar]

shouldn't it be in the Plugins category? or is it meant to be a more general page

[deft mulch]

general

[tardy cedar]

yes it should be

done

[deft mulch]

are we going to contain drama in this page, like the drama where a theme dev tried to block out mlv2 users by targetting its classname

[tardy cedar]

yes

[deft mulch]

https://github.com/NYRI4/LilyPichu/commit/49b169d1436c9de9b238f09c1fb72e00418f8141

[tardy cedar]

actually you could add that in https://wiki.vencord.dev/article/MessageLogger#Controversy

[deft mulch]

aight

[tardy cedar]

tbh i already forgot about that

nyria is cool tho

[deft mulch]

how do I word it there

yeah lmao

its been almost 3 years and everyone has grown past that

[lament wraith]

people had the powercord brainrot

[tardy cedar]

tbh im still a bit torn on drama

its relevant for the history but this specific case could lead to harassment of nyria for something thats way in the past

[deft mulch]

I'll remove the references if that's the case

https://wiki.vencord.dev/article/Vencord why is the history section written like a story

needs some rewrork on that

is there no vue api for mediawiki? I could potentially spin up some reusable components for places like the messagelogger page where images might not be suitable

[stray knot]

https://m.mediawiki.org/wiki/Vue.js

[deft mulch]

yeah i thought so

[tardy cedar]

horror

[lament wraith]

vue cozy

[deft mulch]

agree

[graceful hamlet]

history

seriously though how else do you write it xd

it's a story which happens to be true

[lament wraith]

i think she means that it reads like a narrative when it should be more formal and informational.

[tardy cedar]

i tried to keep it objective but it's pretty hard to tell a story from your own life objectively

[lament wraith]

I can't edit the page right now because I'm technically at work but I think the biggest thing is that some phrases like "Fast forward one year to August 2022" are really casual

[tardy cedar]

jumpscare

[cobalt reef]

fart plugin lore

[tardy cedar]

didnt NTTS laugh at fart

did he show both Aliucord and vencord fart?

would be funny to add that @compact olive

[compact olive]

trolley

yeah i was gonna in trivia section just went to go eat

you can add as citation thing if i forg\et

[rigid jungle]

me when I abuse my position to try to harm other projects

(me when I'm an ass)

[compact olive]

happens all the time

[compact olive]

lol pretty sure thats from forever ago

[tardy cedar]

thats not really what happened there

they chose to make their theme unavailable to messagelogger users thats their right

sure its petty but also its many years ago now

[next forge]

me when i don't understand the fundementals of how the internet works

https://i.dolfi.es/S7KR9B3TnT.png?key=75DwI09C3YZRlI

almost sure this is in dtesters btw

tho not 100% sure

[rigid jungle]

it's literally equivalent to blocking specifc users from using your stuff
imagine if I added a thing to every single one of my plugins to break zts client just because I don't like hin

[tardy cedar]

do it

[next forge]

yop

do

[signal carbon]

didnt someone make bd blocker css snippet

[deft mulch]

this is what I meant, thanks

[supple girder]

@cobalt reef you forgot to delete https://wiki.vencord.dev/article/File:Venson_logo.png after you nuked tr0lls profile page

LMFAO

#1216554461984723165 is broken because vee is banned from discord api by cloudflare

Also why is deleting locked to admins only?

[compact olive]

wtf is venson

[supple girder]

some badminton thing

[opaque jewel]

default mediawiki behavior

[supple girder]

from tr0lls profile before manti nuked it (for being so personal)

[supple girder]

Real

inb4 you need "autoconfirmed" or some shit

[opaque jewel]

wonder if this is how it got api banned /s

[supple girder]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:User_pages

should this be linked?

like that?

[compact olive]

sounds ab rightg

[supple girder]

[https://discord.com/channels/1015060230222131221/1215380773033476106 <code>#📙-client-mod-wiki</code>]
can someone update it on https://wiki.vencord.dev/article/Help:Contributing as the page is protected?

[frosty bay]

so true

[supple girder]

no but seriously when i was looking at that

i was genuinely asking myself

why isnt this on a personal site

[compact olive]

^^

[frosty bay]

yeah so i used to had that but got ddos attaked and my credit card doesn't work no more on any international payment
so i just waitung to get that reviewed

[frosty bay]

my site got taken down basically

i think one of my bully from school did that

[supple girder]

my credit card doesn't work no more on any international payment
why

[frosty bay]

i think firstly country situation and secondly they roll out a new change last year to upgrade card to make international payment

[supple girder]

what country?

[frosty bay]

Myanmar

is just hard to explain

[supple girder]

its ok u dont need to explain politics

[frosty bay]

i think im gonna get kicked out of this server by may
if i keep doing dumb shit

[compact olive]

dam my favorite artist is from myanmar oof

but yea dont do dum shit and you wont get dumb shit in return basically

[frosty bay]

eh who

[signal carbon]

wiki exploded

[tardy cedar]

it did

fixed

[cobalt reef]

how di it

[tardy cedar]

i restarted server

how do you make docker compose up -d persist after reboot @cobalt reef @cobalt reef

idk i don't do docker

[cobalt reef]

sysd service

[tardy cedar]

nop

doesn't docker manage itself

[cobalt reef]

idk I dont do much docker either

@royal juniper

[tardy cedar]

probably something in docker compose file

[royal juniper]

it already does

insane

[cobalt reef]

I'd say probably no but then aagamer will come and prove me wrong

[tardy cedar]

like restart: always

[tardy cedar]

nop it didn't

[royal juniper]

oh

yop

that

[tardy cedar]

i had to run it again for it to start up

[cobalt reef]

WRITE FULL SENTENCES

NOT WRODS

EXPLODE

[royal juniper]

add restart always

[royal juniper]

you literally dont

[cobalt reef]

to WHER

[tardy cedar]

you will relax @cobalt reef

being angry is not good for your heart

[cobalt reef]

its all aagamings fault

[next forge]

yeah add restart settings to every container in your compose file

also you probably want unless-stopped not always

[royal juniper]

mhm

[rigid jungle]

make every defined service have the property
restart: unless-stopped

oh im late

[supple girder]

I am scared of Docker

[deft mulch]

why be scared

if you want you can use compose.toml for docker compose

[rigid jungle]

wait really

[frosty bay]

@velvet nymph ask here

^

u can figure stuff out on ur own i guess

someone might want to fix mistakes in here btw
https://wiki.vencord.dev/article/MessageLogger

[deft mulch]

yeah you can use toml for configuration

[sharp sonnet]

may i get an account on the wiki

[nimble jetty]

I should have one too

I might make a theme guide on the wiki

[rigid jungle]

what for

[sharp sonnet]

making edits and contributing

[frosty bay]

did u end up getting it

[sleek frigate]

why do we have forks on the page of vendroid #1216554461984723165 message

I feel like they don't belong there, no offense

if they were widely used, sure

[supple girder]

vendroid is already very niche

@signal carbon maybe these could be moved to a Vendroid/Forks page with more detail?

[sleek frigate]

okay but If I create a fork rn and do some changes doesnt mean it should be there

[supple girder]

true

idk why @signal carbon even put my "fork" on there

the branch is literally named "highly-opinionated-changes"

[frosty bay]

^ fix mistake
edited - also might want to add some ref and some links broken

[supple girder]

Is this alright?

[frosty bay]

i gues so idk is ur choice anyway i lost my account so

[supple girder]

seems grammatically incorrect to me, no?

[frosty bay]

oh wait shit my bad

[deep shard]

It's a caption, right? Just "A deleted message viewed through Message Logger" and "An edited message viewed through Message Logger" should be fine

[indigo coral]

https://wiki.vencord.dev/article/MessageLogger

claims that message loggers are dangerous is nothing more than blatant disinformation. As all the
shouldnt it be "misinformation"?

[cobalt reef]

did u get

[signal carbon]

true

maybe add a sentence in the main page leading to a subpage

[signal carbon]

you did work on patches

[signal carbon]

something like "While Vendroid isn't actively maintained, some people have worked on forks to improve the user experience while using the app. You can see them at [[Vendroid/Forks]].

[cobalt reef]

k

[signal carbon]

To solve these problems, [[User:Nin0]] and [[User:Sqaaakoi]] have made 2 different Vendroid forks.

* [https://github.com/VendroidEnhanced/Vendroid VendroidEnhanced/Vendroid], currently developed by [[User:Nin0]]. This fork mostly focuses on adding new features, such as a new splashscreen, and in the future, push notifications and rich presence. It also loads a fork of Vencord with a new VendroidEnhancements plugin, designed to enable and improve missing features.
* [https://github.com/Sqaaakoi/Vendroid Sqaaakoi/Vendroid], which currently focuses on re-enabling features that Discord disables on the mobile web client. The patches in the former fork come from Sqaaakoi. Unlike VendroidEnhanced, this fork does not load a Vencord fork, and insteads injects patches directly in the app.

just a little backup for forks section

[late sapphire]

question; are april fools jokes by individual mods actually at all relevant for a wiki

🙃

[cobalt reef]

I mean its client modding wiki

so yea

we can even put other client modding servers jokes too

at least if someone wills to write

[nimble jetty]

yeah rushii got me

[frosty bay]

@velvet nymph is this ur first time doing media wiki

how tf do u figure stuff out

ohh u had expierence

page is v nice

checks dms if ur free btw

i mean i have never heard of media wiki until 2 weeks ago

ah oki

@velvet nymph u should add refs and citation at bottom

let me show u

this button

[summer crater]

cant believe im not shouted out

i'm handing in my 2 weeks notice

[deep shard]

We gots to find someone who can accurately recount the lighty & lucario vs devil bro incident, that was pretty wild

[tardy cedar]

the what

[deep shard]

When Devil Bro staged a war against message loggers, so in return Lighty and Lucario did everything they could to fuck with BDFDB

[tardy cedar]

honestly idk who lucario is

but sounds interesting

[deep shard]

He was pretty prolific on BD, but fell off to focus on uni or something like that.

I think his other major claim to fame was being the reason that April Fools' jokes got banned from plugins over there. He released a plugin called "Nothing" that did nothing, and it somehow became a bit of a thing

[tardy cedar]

LOL?

[tardy cedar]

tbf banning april fools jokes seems like a good idea

most "april fools jokes" you could do with plugins are things like changing to light theme or breaking the plugin's functionality

april fools jokes just aren't funny when they worsen people's user experience

funny april fools jokes would be something like a notification sound changer plugin replacing the sound with a clown honk with a small chance or smth like that

[deep shard]

Yeah, it was probably for the best they got banned. A few still pop up occasionally, mostly in themes, as there's no way plugin updates are getting approved fast enough over there to mess with something for a single day. But, it's nice to be able to blame it on someone rather than have to explain why they're a pain to deal with

[tardy cedar]

there's no way plugin updates are getting approved fast enough

you can add april fools jokes ahead of time and use Date() to check if it's april 1st

manti has april fools shit in all his aliucord plugins that changes to light theme on 1st april

people always whine about it in aliucord support

shows why banning it is a good idea

but aliucord doesn't have manual plugin approval so devs can do what they want really

[deep shard]

Ah, if they slip it in beforehand over there, someone would probably notice it before the date and report it. afaik Zere's the only one over there working on plugin approvals at the moment. He does them in batches, as far as I can tell, so sometimes something slips by. If they want to slip past him, that'd be their best shot

[signal carbon]

@cobalt reef i understand trolling but changing theme to light mode is too far

[cobalt reef]

Going far is good

[signal carbon]

someone said it wasn't that good for photosensitive people ig

[cobalt reef]

Tbh as long as it doesnt break functionality or doing it all the timr its fine imo

My light theme prank only triggers once

[cobalt reef]

It doesnt flash anything

Only single theme change

Lots of people cried on aliucord that it would change theme back to white everytime they launch the app

But I think it wasnt my thing (unless it horribly bugged and I dont think it was the case)

Animals plugins had this too at one point that could be causing it but dont really know

[tardy cedar]

i think anyone who says it triggers epilepsy is insane cause if that were the case they would get epilepsy when they click a link in YouTube and get go to a white theme site

[cobalt reef]

Yop

[compact olive]

lol lucario was in a completely unrelated mutual server of mine and behaved about how you'd expect

[compact olive]

if someone had a horribly out of date version of a plugin then possibly yea

[cobalt reef]

fdujnhdsaıgarjnwfujwarıjnfwLEFODWEKDLDM

should revive wiki

[signal carbon]

@cobalt reef @cobalt reef

Can I write article on the Avast Craze

[cobalt reef]

nop

no page for avast

[signal carbon]

It's lore

[cobalt reef]

but its not related to client modding

[signal carbon]

aw man

is there a page on the vencord server

I forgot my password

[cobalt reef]

no i think

[cobalt reef]

die

remember

[signal carbon]

i thought it was vencord123 but it isnt

you will use Special:ChangePassword

[cobalt reef]

that changes my own password

[signal carbon]

did you setup smtp on the instance

(I hope)

[cobalt reef]

nop

[signal carbon]

Use the changePassword.php maintenance script
The changePassword.php maintenance script allows system administrators to change the password for an account. For complete instructions see changePassword.php. If you are already familiar with maintenance scripts, run the following command from maintenance subdirectory:

# set the password for username 'example' to 'newpassword'
php run.php changePassword.php --user=example --password=newpassword
Caution: System administrators should not know the unencrypted password for user accounts. A user may use the same password over many different sites. If one of their accounts that uses the same password is compromised, then suspicion can be thrown on the administrator. It is better to use "Email new password" to force the user to reset the password for their own account or to set a temporary password the user changes directly afterwards.

[cobalt reef]

did you change the password I sent you

[signal carbon]

i did

change it back to whatever you sent me

[cobalt reef]

guh

fine

done

[deep shard]

Did somebody kill it? It's barely been a month since it started

[cobalt reef]

I mean its alive

but 0 new articles

[languid blade]

Fads do usually die quickly

[nimble jetty]

I started writing a theming guide for dummies but it's far from ready

[deep shard]

Finally. A theming guide for me. BD and Salt already have one. Neither seem to go too deep into how to use your devtools though

[deft mulch]

salt's guide on step 2 seems to teach exactly what you'd need to theme some desired element though

I don't know what more you need out of devtools beyond just grabbing classnames

[deep shard]

Knowing how to use your debugger and how to emulate a focused page helps a lot. Mention of the styles and computed panes in the elements tab would also be big. They generally go unnoticed when people are starting out

[cobalt reef]

h

[signal carbon]

h

[compact olive]

h

[indigo coral]

h

[tardy cedar]

@wicked igloo https://the.vencord.wiki

please do not pretend to be official or affiliated with us. you are using our name and logo in a way that makes it seem like your site is official or endorsed by us. it's not. make it clear that it isn't

you seem to be having copied all plugin documentation from vencord.dev / the vencord github repo verbatim without providing necessary credit or following license conditions. that documentation is licenced under the GPL3.0 license. either follow the license conditions which means making available source code of your wiki under the same license and providing appropriate credit or cease using that documentation

your entire project makes very little sense. why create an unofficial info source if you can just improve the source? if you want to improve vencord documentation, you can contribute your changes to the vencord repository. additional documentation can be added to plugins by creating a README.md file in their folder. that will then be rendered on the vencord.dev page and in the future inside people's discord client. such contributions would actually be appreciated

[signal carbon]

(+ this wiki uses google analytics, who the fuck needs analytics for a wiki??)

[supple girder]

probably because they used gitbook

lmao

[signal carbon]

weird, considering i never saw this on other gitbook wikis

(and I didn't see it yesterday)

[wicked igloo]

Alright. I’ll shut it down & see what I can do for the official wiki.

[supple girder]

hm

[tardy cedar]

its cool that you're trying to improve documentation but information fragmentation kinda sucks

[supple girder]

have we considered a dedicated vencord plugins namespace?

[tardy cedar]

because then multiple sources might have conflicting / outdated information and such

[supple girder]

the domain could probably still be used though, don't let it go to waste

[tardy cedar]

so its better to have it all in one central place

[wicked igloo]

Mhm, yeah. What should I do with the domain?

[supple girder]

redirect to https://wiki.vencord.dev for now until @tardy cedar and @cobalt reef have some ideas

also you should probably ask for an account on there too

[wicked igloo]

That should work now.

[tardy cedar]

well we were actually considering getting vencord.wiki for the wiki iirc

or was it clientmod.wiki i dont remember

[supple girder]

this is too vague

it's a bit like how https://modding.wiki is just a site to shill nexus mods premium accounts in disguise

(half joking)

[wicked igloo]

Well, I could transfer it to you if you have a GoDaddy account

[tardy cedar]

oh it was clientmodding.wiki

[supple girder]

if no then just set the nameservers to whatever @tardy cedar wants you to set them to

[wicked igloo]

Yeah.

I’d be happy to do that

[tardy cedar]

nono its urs

i'd feel bad

and tbh i do kinda feel bad for telling u to essentially shut it down but i hope u understand where i'm coming from

[wicked igloo]

I mean- it was only $3 lol

Totally! I just didn’t realize it wasn’t clear that it was unofficial.

[supple girder]

hm

i will admit

a proper "vencord dedicated wiki"

is a good idea

and one for lore and random stuff is good too

[wicked igloo]

(I didn’t know about wiki.vencord.dev)

[supple girder]

reasonable

it is niche

[wicked igloo]

I could still make it vencord.gitbook.io with a fair warning that it’s not official and may be outdated?

I’d also try to remove the Google Analytics thing.

[supple girder]

i would only do that if there is actual content going to be added that isn't just the plugin/README.md thing

also i would 100% recommend adding a page for the source repository if you are still interested in doing that

[wicked igloo]

No idea if that’s possible with Gitbook

[supple girder]

i mean just add a page that links to it

which is (obviously) possible

or just put the link on the main page with the other information

[wicked igloo]

I’m not a coder, so not really experienced with Github

[tardy cedar]

but yeah like i said the goal is to have better documentation for plugins via README.md file

[supple girder]

we could start by adding a "read more information" button in the client

[tardy cedar]

README from https://github.com/Vendicated/Vencord/blob/main/src/plugins/serverProfile/README.md
gets displayed on https://vencord.dev/plugins/ServerProfile

and in the future in client somehow

[wicked igloo]

I’ll see what I can do for the official documentation.

[cobalt reef]

its better to have entire thing in one place imo

just have mediawiki namespaces etc

because one wiki being dedicated to vencord would be pretty much empty prob

only plugin readmes

[supple girder]

eh true

i do think a Vencord namespace would be useful

[rapid pagoda]

ew why not nextra or some better choices

[dark moon]

monopoly

[supple girder]

husk

[wicked igloo]

They like to keep all information updated and concentrated.

[rapid pagoda]

huh

nextra is foss and well not slow atleast

[meager goblet]

ill probs do that

since the current wiki isnt purely vencord related, and we still have the documentation branch still up on the web repo

either that or i can try to bully starlight into working again

[compact olive]

grammared ur mom last wednesday

[sharp sonnet]

i can do grammar fixes

[last snow]

@cobalt reef @cobalt reef Insane grammar
https://wiki.vencord.dev/article/Aliucord_EncryptDMs_Incident

[cobalt reef]

wha

[sharp sonnet]

who is this

impostor

[fair arch]

https://tenor.com/view/among-us-sus-gif-2558655191726498734

[sharp sonnet]

https://tenor.com/view/goodnight-good-night-impostor-impostor-imposter-among-us-gif-26891540

[fair arch]

https://tenor.com/view/minecraft-dead-chat-dead-chat-xd-gif-24629150

[cobalt reef]

we have lots of information on wiki anyways

[spark bramble]

https://tenor.com/view/we-do-a-little-trolling-gif-21041353

[bright rock]

what the heck

when was this wiki made

i have never seen this before

pretty cool

lore

[frosty bay]

A long time ago

[compact olive]

like 2 months ago lol

[lilac fulcrum]

automatically detecting the browser theme (light/dark) would be cool

[supple girder]

theres probably a mediawiki plugin for that

[lapis prawn]

Not sure tbh, the darkmode extension that exists is both manual and hot garbage, custom JavaScript and styling would be the best bet as far as I know

[cobalt reef]

there was

but dark theme was really just garbage

[sharp sonnet]

[signal carbon]

soo dead

@cobalt reef @cobalt reef can you make me new account

(I forgot old password)

[signal carbon]

actually

i am still logged in on mobile

so maybe i could use that to grab my token

[compact olive]

reset password trool

actually u cant urself nvm

[rigid jungle]

@cobalt reef give me admin again

i will reset nino and fix things

[cobalt reef]

Did yesterday

[rigid jungle]

oh okay

[gloomy fiber]

I make a small client mod focused on making multi-accounting easier, would I be able to add it to the client mods category?

[tardy cedar]

if it has significance, aka a solid user base

[gloomy fiber]

ah okay, fair enough

[lament wraith]

small powercord lore drop

[cobalt reef]

love

[compact olive]

real

[signal carbon]

rusher never restored my account

so sad

luckily i can still edit from mobile

[rigid jungle]

oh i forgor

don

[fair arch]

https://tenor.com/view/kirby-i-forgot-i-forgor-gif-22449575

[signal carbon]

@cobalt reef will stop taking down the vencord wiki

[cobalt reef]

Idk why it went down

But opened

[rigid jungle]

my docker containers die randomly sometimes too
try to login to my vaultwarden and its ded

even though i set it to restart: unless-stopped or whatever

[tardy cedar]

how often?

i restarted vps yesterday so if it died only yesterday then that's probably why

[rigid jungle]

idk like once a month

yeah

i had to restart yesterday

[tardy cedar]

but shouldn't docker automatically restart on system?

[rigid jungle]

it should

https://github.com/docker/for-linux/issues/652

oh its an open issue

guhhh

I think when you reboot, systemd will stop the docker service, which in turn takes care of stopping all containers.

[tardy cedar]

try always instead of unless stopped

bleh

[rigid jungle]

btw @tardy cedar can you make venbot request minky directly from the api instead of going through cloudflare
port is on 47822

[tardy cedar]

lol why

but sure

[rigid jungle]

no point in adding delay going through cf instead of directly calling the service on the same machine

[next forge]

but then you'd respond too fast and people would get scared

[frosty bay]

Welcome back! Click the button to go online. Click the X to stay idle until reload. Exit idle

[night bay]

Even discord employies are using modded discord?

What?

[fair arch]

ik that there is like three of them in this server

[night bay]

wtf

[supple girder]

they just dont care

here is proof discord explicitly Does Not Care

this is source code from the discord desktop app saying to ignore logs from Vencord and other client mods in their log reporting

theres also https://wiki.vencord.dev/article/File:Devsnek_about_BD.png

[compact olive]

bad dragon

voice channels

god dammit i necroed whocares its funny

[gaunt nimbus]

probably they added to their tos for liablty reasons

[supple girder]

yeah afaik that is the case

[gaunt nimbus]

but some partnered server owner says discord does ban LOL

@supple girder

[proven blaze]

they're probably confusing client mods and selfbots or something similar

[rigid jungle]

have been for literally ages

[stray knot]

yeah dolfies loves client mods

[night bay]

lol

what a w

[night bay]

There is one small thing I do not understand

Why do they use client modifications?

I mean, staff settings and all the other things can do what plugins can in most cases.

Are they into themes that much?

That's just something on my mind. I am happy for them if they like client modifications tho and I hope I do not get banned for using almost every experiments lol

(I should've probably asked here what experiments can and what cannot trigger a ban.)

I am kinda scared about those.

[languid blade]

Because client mods make discord better

[rigid jungle]

modded discord is simply a better experience

it's a single bundled experience needing minimal effort to enable plugins

id be shocked if someone had an internal message logger

[night bay]

Huh?

What do you mean internal message logger?

[night bay]

I said it wrong I realised.

[supple girder]

pretty much none of them if you get banned from an experiment its because some discord employee fucked up and made the experiment do api spam or something

[night bay]

fun

[supple girder]

its very easy to get unmodded discord to send invalid api requests too

The "Member Safety" feature

sorry I mean "Mod View is a fragile mess"

[night bay]

No way it is that easy to freak out the api

[supple girder]

Mod view will request audit logs even if you don't have permission to view them

[night bay]

Omg no way

[night bay]

Okay now I am scared

I got logged out for 0 reason 😭

There are too many weird things happening with my account

[night bay]

Is armcord legit or is it harmful?

[sterile wigeon]

its legit

[night bay]

Thank you

OMG you actually made my paranoia dissapear.

I should've read the wiki first lol

[tardy cedar]

the pomelo experiment in question:

[supple girder]

horror

i forgot about that

[night bay]

What is pomelo

Isn't it a fruit?

[languid blade]

That's when they switched username format, isn't it?

[supple girder]

Yop

[compact olive]

yes

you love apricot branch

[cobalt reef]

I think it wasnt even experiment

I manually sent request for pomelo at least

prob missing some headers

[next forge]

the main reason

is their anti abuse may or may not ban ppl who use custom clients/selfbot

but that's not the intention

tho a lot of ppl are hostile towards selfbots

[next forge]

it was

they banwave'd for it (didn't get me :p) and reverted it because they banned half the meta community

[tardy cedar]

cause there are two types of selfbots

• malicious spammers and such
• harmless users that don't disturb others

you only notice the first type

so it leads to a negative view of it

[next forge]

nah a lot of ppl are actively hostile towards like

standard cmd-based selfbots

not even considering raids etc

[tardy cedar]

eh I kinda agree with the sentiment

use your commands in private

I've never seen a selfbot command user that wasn't a total skid

[next forge]

i mean that's cuz of this sentiment lol

but fair

vicious cycle and all that

trust me i've seen my users

[tardy cedar]

why selfbot when u can client mod

i used to ages ago when it was still socially acceptable

then I switched to betterdiscord and later powercord xd

[next forge]

evil

i still wanna make my inconspicuous user app + selfbot combo

[cobalt reef]

Hm

Then ig people who manually sent request got disabled

Ptsd

Wait we should put this incident to wiki too

I will write

[cobalt reef]

why you people are sobbng

[royal juniper]

@cobalt reef i forgort this existed

hows progress

[cobalt reef]

I wrote all the stuff I wanted

except the pomelo incident

so its okayish

[royal juniper]

@cobalt reef

https://wiki.vencord.dev/article/Themer

missing some lore

i made original themer monkey patch concept

and ven made it into an actual plugin

also you should document ThisWillCrashYourDiscord

best aliucord/vendetta plugin

[cobalt reef]

wr

te

write

[royal juniper]

nop

[compact olive]

yop do

document nitrospoof incident

[rigid jungle]

wuh oh

[cobalt reef]

nitrospoof incident

what was the order of that

I remember
1: xinto accepting pr that would delete the nitrospoof
2: someone else forking and rereleasing nitrospoof, but having a slash command that would delete plugin itself
3: around these times I think animal released a plugin that would delete all your plugins
4: I released the anti animal plugin

uhh what else

#841437632138444810 message lore start
its been 3 years since the incident holy

[ashen spade]

whats wrong with flatpaks..

[signal carbon]

who is animal

[cobalt reef]

@compact olive

[signal carbon]

insane

[compact olive]

insane