📙-client-mod-wiki

[meager goblet]

im gonna

go onto this wiki

and fix everything

I WILL EXERT MY BUREAUCRACY

[cobalt reef]

do

dont nuke docker tho

[tardy cedar]

what do u wanna fix

tbh there isn't anything that needs fixing

it works

tm

[cobalt reef]

just index.php thing

at least thats what I see as problem

[meager goblet]

nah im gonna fix all the hacky stuff and set it up properly cause it will break horribly one day and i wanna stop that from happening

• theres a few things i wanna check out

like have you got the SEO plugin installed

the hover tooltips

[tardy cedar]

@cobalt reef did you add that mobile plugin

it locks me to MinervaNeue and can't change to different theme

[meager goblet]

page preview sorry

[cobalt reef]

I did

[tardy cedar]

it ignores my theme choice now

[meager goblet]

ew why

[tardy cedar]

make it not do that

[cobalt reef]

I didnt touch that

I only installed plugin

it defaulted mobile theme to minervaneue maybe it has config

[meager goblet]

@tardy cedar tell me if u like this theme

https://starcitizen.tools

[tardy cedar]

why is it blue

[cobalt reef]

wth can mediawiki look like that

[meager goblet]

yeah

[meager goblet]

star citizen colors you can change them

[tardy cedar]

tbh the default theme is good

[meager goblet]

i know the people who make this skin and its the best third party skin you can get for mediawiki

[tardy cedar]

vector legacy is awesome

[meager goblet]

theres loads of little things that are nice in it i adore citizen

[meager goblet]

okie

[tardy cedar]

it's just that it forces MinervaNeue on you on mobile now

[cobalt reef]

I think the same

I just got used to it

but we can maybe add a dark theme to it

[tardy cedar]

FIX @cobalt reef

[cobalt reef]

soon

I am writing EncryptDMs incident

[meager goblet]

why is it a generic wiki

and not the vencord wili

wiki

[tardy cedar]

because funnier that way

[cobalt reef]

I want to add entire aliucord lore to there

and also more pages is better eh

[tardy cedar]

it's about archiving client modding lore

so people in 1 million years can see how retarded we were

they will think "wow this mantika guy... very impressive. did not know humans can be this insane"

[meager goblet]

can i buy a new domain

:^)

[tardy cedar]

for the wiki?

[meager goblet]

yeah

[tardy cedar]

horror

what'd you make it

[meager goblet]

dm

[tardy cedar]

i think the current one is fine

[river warren]

If it's a general discord modding wiki, current domain is deceiving

[tardy cedar]

i mean we might also put vencord documentation stuff there

[river warren]

Any excuse to buy a domain is a good excuse

[tardy cedar]

in which case it'd make sense to be on our domain

[tardy cedar]

you guys are just addicted to wasting money

[digital sparrow]

discordlore.com

[meager goblet]

yeah

[river warren]

Yop

[sleek frigate]

we need to document all webpack properties

very nice

[digital sparrow]

yes yes yes

datamining page 🙏

[cobalt reef]

we can also write about how patchers work and stuff

@rigid jungle you would love to do that

[sleek frigate]

I want a proper documentation of every property with non minified functions

[cobalt reef]

entire Pine lore

[river warren]

So cheap

[cobalt reef]

@tardy cedar MobileFrontend extension doesnt have any setting to allow people use custom UIs

you can only change defaault theme

https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:MobileFrontend/en#Configuration_settings

[tardy cedar]

terrible

[deft mulch]

how can I make an account to make pages/changes?

oh alright read the pins

[raw crag]

where is the support channel

nvm

found it

[cobalt reef]

I can give you if you want

[deft mulch]

oki

[supple girder]

@cobalt reef have you considered adding oauth signup

[cobalt reef]

we dont want everyone to register themselfs

and oauth is meh a bit unneeded imo

[supple girder]

will that cause low-effort junk if you do have open registration

[cobalt reef]

yeah

and its easier to moderate it this way

[languid blade]

As opposed to the current closed low-effort junk

[supple girder]

[stone hemlock]

sup boys

[spark bramble]

Can I get access? I have a couple funny ideas

[cobalt reef]

k

[cobalt reef]

cant dm

[spark bramble]

Friend

[rigid jungle]

i think wiki.vencord.dev is perfectly fine tbh

[languid blade]

What's with that swc change anyway? I took a look at what its minifier does and it doesn't match up much with what discord does

[spark bramble]

My school blocks the wiki

What is this censorship

[tardy cedar]

wdym?

[languid blade]

For example swc has https://rustdoc.swc.rs/src/swc_ecma_minifier/compress/pure/sequences.rs.html#70, but I could've sworn I saw that pattern somewhere

But it is possible that I was misreading something, or that several other rewrites were compounding in a weird way

Maybe I should riir my discombobulator

[digital sparrow]

youre looking at the wrong thing

[languid blade]

?

[digital sparrow]

can you give an example of where the minifier and discord's code doesn't match up

from a build after the swc change

the rng gods

[deep shard]

Is this what mobile-first means?

[languid blade]

While it's not particularly strong evidence, there's a few &&!0 which contradict https://rustdoc.swc.rs/src/swc_ecma_minifier/compress/pure/bools.rs.html#134, for example in Vencord.Webpack.findByProps("areChannelsLocked").areChannelsLocked.toString()

[digital sparrow]

opencord page is the only one with some effort put into

[rigid jungle]

how

is it because of the .dev tld

wiki page for revenge

vd forks

[stray knot]

wiki page for xinto

[spark bramble]

Yeah I think so

[digital sparrow]

its togglable

[tardy cedar]

what the hell is this ulgy

[stray knot]

its only that skin

looks fine on minerva

[nimble jetty]

because it's a table row

[graceful hamlet]

formally discontinued what

[stray knot]

as opposed to abandoned

[graceful hamlet]

formally discontinued?

so it was previously discontinued on february 6th but they changed the date

[stray knot]

yes, it had a proper announcement

[graceful hamlet]

😭

[stray knot]

what

[graceful hamlet]

or they re-continued it

[stray knot]

thats formerly

[graceful hamlet]

oh

lmao

[languid blade]

An explicit "this is no longer being developed" rather than just, no longer being developed

[graceful hamlet]

sorry

words confuse

[cobalt reef]

about 2 years ago discord changed their bundler from xxxx to swc

when that change happened all display names got disappeared and all client mods broke

and since display names got disappeared people had to change their way of finding modules a lot

[digital sparrow]

webpack, they just added swc minification
no bundlers were changed

they changed bundlers recently to rspack

and they mainly added swc for obfuscation (the great experiment snippets purge)

now they just don't care

[cobalt reef]

oh right

[languid blade]

I do recall things having more displayname several years ago, but I was not involved enough at the time to know any details

[digital sparrow]

it wasn't just display names it was names of exported objects too which were mangled

[tardy cedar]

displayNames are smallest of evils

the biggest issue was that all exports were mangled

so instead of exports.getFooBar you had exports.z$

meant you had to findByCode everything

remember my mapMangledModule utility

[languid blade]

But then they changed that back to unmangle exports later?

[tardy cedar]

that would find module based on source code then map mangled/minfiied exports to proper names based on filters

[tardy cedar]

yes

when they switched to rspack

now the code is better than ever before

rspack output is even better than the old pre-swc output

[digital sparrow]

this was absolute horror

[rigid jungle]

change your dns if you haven't already lol

[stray knot]

@rigid jungle write the lore
https://wiki.vencord.dev/index.php/Aliucord

[rigid jungle]

death

idk where to even start

I wasn't here for the beginning

wasn't it smali patches

[stray knot]

do in depth interview with juber

you can at least write section for how it works

[graceful hamlet]

https://wiki.vencord.dev/index.php/File:Devsnek_about_BD.png

bad dragon

[tardy cedar]

very first aliucord required you to rerun installer after adding new plugins

and plugins needed to specify which methods they hook

the installer would smali patch those methods to insert aliucord patcher call

which then called the plugins

[rigid jungle]

so like revanced?

[tardy cedar]

it was incredibly cursed

[rigid jungle]

husk

[tardy cedar]

no not really

it would auto generate smali monkey patches

so every time you installed a new plugin you had to rerun installer to do the proper smali patches

[rigid jungle]

lmao

[tardy cedar]

unless you already had a different plugin that patched the same method

then we switched to pine eventually

[stray knot]

write the lore vee

the people must know

[graceful hamlet]

monkey patching java/kotlin?

[tardy cedar]

like i said it would generate smali patches for the desired methods

[tardy cedar]

you act like current aliucord doesn't also monkey patch java methods

it does

the entirety of xposed monkey patches

[stray knot]

just with more sane api

[graceful hamlet]

since when can you do monkey patching in java

[tardy cedar]

from C++

it uses native libraries

https://github.com/Aliucord/hook

[languid blade]

Pretty sure xposed basically patches the jvm (or the dalvik vm rather)

[digital sparrow]

snek jumpscare

[tardy cedar]

you can find source code here https://github.com/LSPosed/LSPlant/tree/master/lsplant/src/main/jni

[rigid jungle]

basically you take the native ART representation of a method and inject a so called asm trampoline to redirect calls

there's been a few of these that exist
pine, lsplant, sandhook

[graceful hamlet]

why not use agent or custom main class and classloader

is that not possible on android

[deft mulch]

I can't understand this without context

[rigid jungle]

you'd have to replace the entire class

not really a solution

[graceful hamlet]

wha

wdym

[rigid jungle]

afaik agent only works in debuggable apps
we do replace a class that gets loaded instantly to initialize lsplant
wdym by custom class loader
for what

[languid blade]

You can make a classloader (or agent) that rewrites the class file before loading

[rigid jungle]

i mean I guess it's possible
not sure about how you would go about replacing the main classloader

[languid blade]

No idea how it works on android

[sleek frigate]

isn't that how mc modding works

[graceful hamlet]

replacing classloader is

[rigid jungle]

I think so
mixins lib rewrite bytecode at runtime

[languid blade]

When I did minecraft modding a few years ago I decided to not muck around with classloaders, I instead created a zip file of all the patched classes at runtime and prepended it to the classpath

[rigid jungle]

you just discovered core modding

trolley

[graceful hamlet]

you can subclass ClassLoader and override methods which determine the byte[] of a resource

[languid blade]

I thought coremod was what the forge peeps call any kind of bytecode patching

[graceful hamlet]

or idk i think you also need to override the method which loads the class and return defineClass with a different byte array

[rigid jungle]

yes but then you have to somehow replace the original classloader

I think?

[languid blade]

Not necessarily

[graceful hamlet]

very easy

[languid blade]

Just load the original main class with your custom loader

[rigid jungle]

huh
I wonder whether this would work with providers/services on android
cause the classes would be incompatible

[tardy cedar]

overriding the classloader is insane

[graceful hamlet]

public final class Main {
    public static void main(String[] args) {
        EpicClassLoader cl = new EpicClassLoader();
        Method main = cl.loadClass("com.acme.program.Main").getMethod("main", String[].class);
        main.setAccessible(true);
        main.invoke(null, args);
    }
}

[tardy cedar]

but replacing entire classes is also viable

[graceful hamlet]

not as insane as using C++

[tardy cedar]

you just make a compatible class with your changes and make sure it appears in the classpath before the original

[graceful hamlet]

i literally just meant loading the main class with you classloader

[tardy cedar]

that's how the aliucord entry point works, we override a discord class

[graceful hamlet]

replacing the system class loader fully would be insane but you don't need to

[tardy cedar]

https://github.com/Aliucord/Aliucord/blob/main/Injector/src/main/java/com/discord/app/App%24a.java

and then we inject the aliucord dex into the classloader

to dynamically load aliucord from dex file so it can update itself

https://github.com/Aliucord/Aliucord/blob/main/Injector/src/main/java/com/aliucord/injector/Injector.kt#L162-L175

[ivory copper]

**Injector.kt: **Lines 162-175

@SuppressLint("DiscouragedPrivateApi") // this private api seems to be stable, thanks to facebook who use it in the facebook app
@Throws(Throwable::class)
private fun addDexToClasspath(dex: File, classLoader: ClassLoader) {
    Logger.d("Adding Aliucord to the classpath...")

    // https://android.googlesource.com/platform/libcore/+/58b4e5dbb06579bec9a8fc892012093b6f4fbe20/dalvik/src/main/java/dalvik/system/BaseDexClassLoader.java#59
    val pathListField = BaseDexClassLoader::class.java.getDeclaredField("pathList")
        .apply { isAccessible = true }
    val pathList = pathListField[classLoader]!!
    val addDexPath = pathList.javaClass.getDeclaredMethod("addDexPath", String::class.java, File::class.java)
        .apply { isAccessible = true }
    addDexPath.invoke(pathList, dex.absolutePath, null)
    Logger.d("Successfully added Aliucord to the classpath")
}

[graceful hamlet]

@tardy cedar what's wrong with this

it's much more sane than using C++ 😭

[tardy cedar]

what?

you can't use that to override functionality of discord classes

[graceful hamlet]

why not?

it works with other applications

[tardy cedar]

because that's not how it works

[graceful hamlet]

works on my machine

public final class EpicClassLoader extends ClassLoader {

    private static final ClassLoader FALLBACK = ClassLoader.getSystemClassLoader();

    @Override
    protected Class<?> loadClass(String name, boolean resolve) {
        if (!(name.startsWith("java.") || name.startsWith("javax.") || name.startsWith("sun.") || name.startsWith("com.sun.") || name.startsWith("jdk.")))
          return FALLBACK.loadClass(name);

        synchronized (getClassLoadingLock()) {
            Class<?> clazz = findLoadedClass(name);
            if (clazz != null)
                return clazz;
            
            clazz = findClass(name);
            if (clazz != null)
                return clazz;
            
            return FALLBACK.loadClass(name);
        }
    }

    @Override
    protected Class<?> findClass(String name) throws ClassNotFoundException {
        String path = name.replace('.', '/') + ".class";
        try (InputStream in = getResourceAsStream(path)) {
            if (in == null)
                throw new ClassNotFoundException(name);

            byte[] bytes = in.readAllBytes();
            
            ClassReader reader = new ClassReader(bytes);
            ClassNode node = new ClassNode();
            reader.accept(node, 0);

            node.access |= Opcodes.ACC_PUBLIC;
            // whatever else idk

            ClassWriter writer = new ClassWriter(0);
            node.accept(writer);
            bytes = writer.toByteArray();

            return defineClass(name, bytes, 0, bytes.length);
        } catch (IOException bad) {
            throw new ClassNotFoundException(name, aa);
        }
    }

}

i'm pretty sure this works

[tardy cedar]

now you need to replace entire classes

awesome

[graceful hamlet]

wdym

[tardy cedar]

you cannot patch individual methods

[graceful hamlet]

why is that an issue

just don't patch anything else

[tardy cedar]

what

[graceful hamlet]

yeah you're technically converting a byte array into something else and back into a byte array

[tardy cedar]

you're making no sense

[graceful hamlet]

just do node.methods.stream().filter(method -> method.name == "thingyouwanttopatch").findFirst() and modify it

i don't get what your point is

[languid blade]

Parse the bytes representing the class file into something useful with ow2 asm, edit it however you want, convert it back to bytes, and put it into the actual class loading machinery

[graceful hamlet]

that's what it's doing yeah

[rigid jungle]

no he has a point
you can patch the methods
question is if when other classes are loaded they will reference your new class instead of through the old classloader

[graceful hamlet]

who what

[rigid jungle]

you

[graceful hamlet]

a

[graceful hamlet]

this is what most minecraft modloaders use sooo

[languid blade]

How would they get hold of the old classloader?

[rigid jungle]

I wonder if mixin lib is portable to android

[languid blade]

I mean sure they can get it if they really want to but generally you would not write your code to explicitly opt out of mods

[rigid jungle]

classes loaded out of your control
ie, Application
which is the main entry point itself

that loads a shit ton of other stuff

[graceful hamlet]

you can't modify already loaded classes

[rigid jungle]

including context etc I think

[languid blade]

Yeah no idea how it works on droid

[graceful hamlet]

🤔

but a class can only be loaded in one classloader

newer versions of java at least scream at you

[languid blade]

Pretty sure you can have multiple classes with the same name in different classloaders

[graceful hamlet]

there's an error if that happens

[cobalt reef]

@stray knot fix info boxessss

they look ugly

[stray knot]

they look fine on minerva

[cobalt reef]

NOBODY USES MINEVRA

[stray knot]

i do

[cobalt reef]

guhhhhhh

they look like that on vector hm

can we align those to right

[stray knot]

just yoink the css

[digital sparrow]

ugly

[cobalt reef]

css would work prob

but theres probably proper way to do this

because infoboxes are always on right in wikipedia

[stray knot]

the module should come with css

i just don't think its applying on the other skins

[cobalt reef]

I importing entire Common.css

okay good

[stray knot]

patrolled

[cobalt reef]

https://wiki.vencord.dev/index.php/Dead_System_Exception I love how rusher added the links to the original issue

[rigid jungle]

@tardy cedar what if vwiki gets added to venbot

[tardy cedar]

STOP DOING THIS

DO YOU WANT TO HAVE TO UPDATE IT EVERY COMMIT

[cobalt reef]

well vendetta wont receive any more updates

but yes I thought same too

[tardy cedar]

that's aliucord

not vendetter

[cobalt reef]

oh nvm then

[rigid jungle]

@stray knot did you make oc logo

[stray knot]

yes

[stray knot]

its not updated that often for it to be a problem

like i would not do that for vencord

[rigid jungle]

technically you could write a module to fetch info with lua or something

caching is probably an issue though

oh nop Extension:LuaCache exists

[deft mulch]

how can I create a page? or is that disabled?

[tardy cedar]

you need an account

what do u wanna create

oh you have a user

its not disabled no, just create it

[deft mulch]

i already figured

thank you :)

[tardy cedar]

[signal carbon]

we should write pages on popular clientmod plugins

like reviewdb, usrbg

[rigid jungle]

@cobalt reef DO

[rigid jungle]

how did we find about discord rn again
in Dec 2021

did discord leak their CDN assets
index.android.bundle
and then we tried to make a rn host that can run the bundle?

[cobalt reef]

@royal juniper

Aagamer knows all the lore

Interview

[rigid jungle]

aainterview

[digital sparrow]

didn't discord announce the rna rewrite in ddevs

and a couple while later there were leaked builds going around

[rigid jungle]

not sure which came first

[cobalt reef]

I think announcment was before

builds came way later

[digital sparrow]

i remember seeing a leaked build a couple weeks after the announcement

announcement -> leaks -> official alpha release

[cobalt reef]

yop soon

I might write entire reviewdb lore

(4 paragraphs)

but idk the lore for UserBG

[cobalt reef]

https://wiki.vencord.dev/index.php/Themer @tardy cedar write the lore behind rewrites alhamdulillah

[deep shard]

You've got more than 4 paragraphs just on that page explaining why it was removed from Vencord don't you?

[cobalt reef]

I might not even include the first removal reason and just say there were some disagreements but idk now

lots of horror stuff happened

[deep shard]

You've gots to include it all, the drama is what makes a wiki

[cobalt reef]

true ig

[royal juniper]

yes I made DiscordRN app that ran it

[cobalt reef]

tell us lore aagamer

how did we find the bunlde btw

[royal juniper]

they left it on the updater

90.0 I think

[spring flame]

hoi, id like to contibute to vencord wiki

[tardy cedar]

such as?

[lapis cave]

Hi

[spark bramble]

how do we feel about a vencord support wiki page

i think it would be quite funny

[digital sparrow]

hall of (shame) fame wiki page

vennie wiki page!!!!

[spark bramble]

that's a great idea

for the stupidest of stupid in support

[signal carbon]

maybe a page on how to install a dev build

or on armcord

or on openasar

(i should make these)

[cobalt reef]

writeeee

[signal carbon]

how to get wiki acc

i will write pages on every single 3rd party discord client known to man

(and on minky)

[graceful hamlet]

write about dustyangel47's demoncord

[signal carbon]

sure

i just need to wait for vee to give me an account

[stray knot]

mantika can also give account

[signal carbon]

okay

then i need to wait for vee or manti to give account

Biscord connects to Discord and sends a message to the user "manti".
Biscord: Hi manti, nin0.dev would like to request a vencord wiki account. Can you please help them out?
manti responds to Biscord's message.
manti: Sure, I can help with that. I'll create an account for nin0.dev and send them the login information.
manti creates a vencord wiki account for nin0.dev and sends them the login information.
Biscord: Thank you, manti. I've sent the login information to nin0.dev.
nin0.dev: Thank you, Biscord. I appreciate your help.
Biscord: You're welcome. I'm always happy to help.

[stray knot]

maybe try pinging one of them

[signal carbon]

@cobalt reef wake up reviewdb broke

(it didn't)

[cobalt reef]

I will give

[tardy cedar]

how to get account:

• ping @tardy cedar or @cobalt reef with the username you would like to have
• we will dm you your password. login and change it

[tardy cedar]

WHY HUSK

[cobalt reef]

mention yourself too

[tardy cedar]

"or me"

[cobalt reef]

OTHERWISE PEOPLE WILL ONLY PING ME

[tardy cedar]

manti cant read

[cobalt reef]

yes

or @tardy cedar

do thattt

[stray knot]

nop

[tardy cedar]

there

[cobalt reef]

love

[stray knot]

undo

mantika doesn't get pinged enough

[tardy cedar]

for some reason it glitched out for me and shows up as this lmao

discord moment

[stray knot]

stupidity archive moment

[cobalt reef]

it didnt glitch out

shows same on me

[signal carbon]

we should make vencord theme for mediawiki

light mode is horror

[cobalt reef]

@tardy cedar fix mentionssss

discord moment

nvm

[tardy cedar]

wait wdym

[cobalt reef]

it shows glitched on me too

[tardy cedar]

lmaoooo

true discord moment

[cobalt reef]

https://wiki.vencord.dev/index.php/Vencord I find it funny how vencord page is the shortest page out there

[tardy cedar]

WRITE

why is there a page on AAGamer

should be user page

probably

well idk actually

[languid blade]

Unless they're an important part of discord lore

[fair arch]

factually correct information

[cobalt reef]

everyone needs to know about aagamer

[dense scaffold]

Documentation confirmed?!?!?!

nope

nvm

[languid blade]

If someone writes some then maybe

[dense scaffold]

[rigid jungle]

you should write about vc guh you literalluy made it

[signal carbon]

me: ill write ripcord and some vencord docs!!!
manti: makes account (i still didn't change my pw i think)
me 5 mins later: loses motivation

jk I'll write something

[signal carbon]

yop

vee outsourcing work = bad

[cobalt reef]

@tardy cedar also write the lore behind themer rewrites

I wrote everything else

[compact olive]

wuhh venchord wikier?

[languid blade]

Is that a threat

[tardy cedar]

write grammarly plugin

cause mantika can't grammar

no i mean like

write a mediawiki grammarly plugin

ABSOLUTELY

do now

[deft mulch]

I was curious: will the wiki contain vencord documentation in the future? I thought there was some effort with vitepress on vencord/docs

[tardy cedar]

yes it might

it seems like a good place to put it

but only maybe

[deft mulch]

I was wondering if that's preferable depending on if you want outside contributions (outside as in not the group of us close friends)

vitepress is also pretty extensible with vue, I've gotten very far with vitepress so this might sound advocating-y

reverse engineer extension

I'm sure you can master your way out with mitmp

tangent but grammarly cookies are so easy to find

[signal carbon]

mediawiki editing on mobile is horror

should i put Vesktop as a custom client

[signal carbon]

just finished making categories for most pages
you will either love it or hate it

[deft mulch]

oh thanks for touching the shelter page I had made

I was gonna fill it up more but this is a nice headstart

[cobalt reef]

I thought maybe grammarly would be hard with php but we can write js too

https://www.npmjs.com/package/@grammarly/editor-sdk
Hmm but it requires textareas to be wrapped with grammarly

[deep shard]

Broken English is the best kind of English. Let 'em play

[cobalt reef]

https://developer.grammarly.com oh lmaoooo they discounted it

I wonder why they went so anti developer suddenly

[deep shard]

Is it not just that they already have all the data that they needed?

[supple girder]

probably

[cobalt reef]

possible

[deft mulch]

they probably got hammered by people training on their ai

[signal carbon]

yop

i mean i have a solution to solve the grammar problems

step 1: make sure mantika is never allowed on vencord wiki again

[tardy cedar]

DONT SEND THIS

it haunts my nightmares

[signal carbon]

every time you will see me, i will haunt your nightmares

[tardy cedar]

NONONONO

[signal carbon]

fine

[deep shard]

There are no grammar problems, just happy little accidents

[cobalt reef]

my glorious art

also my grammar isnt that bad

[compact olive]

oh no

lol

was lore page written yet

if not write within 5 business seconds

[cobalt reef]

which lore

[compact olive]

all of the lore

[spark bramble]

https://wiki.vencord.dev/index.php/The_Vencord_Support_Channel

[cobalt reef]

@tardy cedar

21:06, 8 March 2024 diff hist  +32‎  N Category talk:Plugins that never got merged ‎ Created page with "let's delete this page, very bad" current Tags: Mobile edit Mobile web edit

WHY

[tardy cedar]

yep

[signal carbon]

should i write something about @robust coyote having anger issues

[tardy cedar]

what

mantika is the only one with anger issues

[cobalt reef]

wait is it your alt lmaooo

[robust coyote]

yop

[cobalt reef]

I was so sure it was echo

[robust coyote]

no

echo has duke role

i am a whitename

[cobalt reef]

I mean echo alt

[tardy cedar]

fear

[signal carbon]

i will write about the death of the starboardmachine

[cobalt reef]

@tardy cedar we should open a devilbro talks page

it will include various screenshots of devilbro

[tardy cedar]

add section to his page

with funny quotes

Quotes section

shut up fag im on my way to a gay bar

[tardy cedar]

oh i didnt remember it 100%

but close

[cobalt reef]

I will add this

but there were more

[tardy cedar]

yep

[cobalt reef]

idk where to find those tho

[tardy cedar]

check lighty server

https://discord.com/channels/389049952732446731/869631603268284456

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/869631603268284456/891682914776010762/SDwQBKc2biD8.png?ex=66002f6d&is=65edba6d&hm=8cd672f8ab68d96a04e78a6b48af4e01f6e54f4923299bfecbde417996411ce5&

[cobalt reef]

oh lmaooo

[tardy cedar]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/869631603268284456/870183676724531250/x8s2kdwsmt61.png?ex=65fbccb3&is=65e957b3&hm=a37c5c2ead6ea74dd879e7fd08d9cd3863c1ddba7992c36484cc416b6783fca5&

[cobalt reef]

I will add all of those

[tardy cedar]

i love him

[cobalt reef]

hm how do I make it not go to right

[tardy cedar]

actually idk if adding these screenshots is a good idea

[compact olive]

maybe not

[tardy cedar]

theyre funny but it might start pointless drama

[compact olive]

u shud giv acc @rigid jungle

[tardy cedar]

cause people will call him homophobic or something

people are that insane

[compact olive]

i mean people already do that

dont they

either way we dont need

[tardy cedar]

why ping rusher lmao

[compact olive]

useless drama we have enough

idk

[cobalt reef]

I mean second message already proves that wrong

[tardy cedar]

yeah dont add these screenshots @cobalt reef

[compact olive]

lmao

[cobalt reef]

okay

[tardy cedar]

its funny but not necessary

[compact olive]

rusher will do it personally (ping autocomplete moment)

[cobalt reef]

lmaoo

[tardy cedar]

what username do u ant

[compact olive]

uh

just nyako

is fine

windows 10

[tardy cedar]

youre not getting an account

[rigid jungle]

do you still need account

[supple girder]

what the fuck discord shitcode is real

[compact olive]

no lol

[robust coyote]

Works for me

[rigid jungle]

guh

[rigid jungle]

your system font is missing that glyph i guess

[supple girder]

nop

that is definitely an encoding issue instead

[rigid jungle]

u+2022 is a pretty common character
it works perfectly fine for me

[supple girder]

oh wtf????

huh

must be brotli encoded cache jank

i have no idea

[tardy cedar]

what are u yapping

[supple girder]

idk

broken cache
chromium issue even

anyway

how much of the wiki is devilbro slander

[cobalt reef]

1%

[signal carbon]

im making it 100%

[cobalt reef]

do not

[signal carbon]

fine

[robust coyote]

do

[cobalt reef]

it would be funny but that might also bring stupid drama

we dont want that

[robust coyote]

i see

btw you may want to remove vencord+ from the rdb website

[tardy cedar]

nah he loves shilling that

wait wdym

its not even listed there

[cobalt reef]

name is changed

[tardy cedar]

oh nvm insane mantika

[cobalt reef]

but I think link is forgotten

[tardy cedar]

it links to Vencord+

fix lmao

should i fix

[supple girder]

do fix

[cobalt reef]

if you have repo cloned yop

but if not I can fix

actually you can just fix from github

[tardy cedar]

bro thinks i have it cloned

actually thats bad link

it should link to https://vencord.dev/download

[compact olive]

yep

[cobalt reef]

husk can you do that in actions

[tardy cedar]

btw maybe this should be deleted https://github.com/StupidityDB/Website/tree/master/app/blog/vencord-removal

wait where do you even find blog

ah have to navigate manually

[cobalt reef]

I think it can stay as record purposes

you cant access it without link anyway

[tardy cedar]

fix this plugin when https://github.com/mantikafasi/BetterDiscordPlugins/blob/main/Plugins/ReviewDB/ReviewDB.plugin.js

tbh it shouldnt evenbe hard to fix

because most cod doesnt depend on vencord apis i think

so you can copy paste 90% of code

btw vendetta downloadetta linketta isetta deadetta

[cobalt reef]

never

there is like 3 people who use reviewdb through betterdiscord

and I kinda have to rewrite some parts of the code there

[cobalt reef]

yeah I should fix that too

maybe just remove vendetta link as its discounted

unless someone is maintaining it

[tardy cedar]

discounted

vendetta discount omg

[cobalt reef]

discontinued

WHATEVER

[supple girder]

Discounted!?!?!? Vendetta at an affordable price?!

[dense scaffold]

@cobalt reef Inbestigator

[rigid jungle]

i bought vendetta

[cobalt reef]

what do you plan to contribute

[dense scaffold]

I would like to try and help write some stuff about what the different stores are and what plugins use them etc.

[cobalt reef]

kk

[languid blade]

Do you intend to write about all of them?

[supple girder]

If Vencord plugins eventually get documented on the wiki, would Vencord potentially include a link to the wiki page in the plugin information?

[tardy cedar]

why no screenshot https://wiki.vencord.dev/index.php/ReviewDB

The only actively maintained version is the Vencord one. It includes modern features like blocking and review deleting.

Is Ali-a-cord and emitter reviverdeb not maintained?

[cobalt reef]

I maintain Aliucord version

but only critical fixes like api changes

didnt touch it since the api change

[compact olive]

i havebt even heard of enmity for a long while

[signal carbon]

same

[compact olive]

zoey said eternal took it over and wants to make it unbound

[cobalt reef]

fun fact aliucord version doesnt even have pagination

[signal carbon]

vendetta version also doesnt

[cobalt reef]

only vencord and enmity has pagination afaik

rosie put some decent work into enmity plugin

[signal carbon]

great

bd also doesnt have apgination?

ill try it

[cobalt reef]

bd plugin is dead

since only few people were using it I didnt bother fixing it

[tardy cedar]

wtf

i was editing but it didnt save

and i lost it all

[cobalt reef]

I will add the UserReviews lore to there

[signal carbon]

isnt userreviews reviewdb?

[cobalt reef]

when I have free time (when I am at university)

[cobalt reef]

yes

UserReviews was the original reviewdb

[compact olive]

stupiditydb

[cobalt reef]

when porting it to desktop I renamed it

[signal carbon]

ah

wen relationshipdb

[compact olive]

horror

[cobalt reef]

never

[compact olive]

@sharp carbon u have page now xD

[sharp carbon]

deat

[compact olive]

do u want anything special on it

[sharp carbon]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/920152531995353128/1163853944963993632/caption-4.gif

damn thats deep

[cobalt reef]

grammarly doesnt seem to work on visual editor

[languid blade]

Visual editor sucks tho

[signal carbon]

[tardy cedar]

i made the reviewdb wiki better

[signal carbon]

looks great

you shouldnt link to manti.vendicated.dev else people will see this

[tardy cedar]

LMAOOO

[signal carbon]

i will make a Ven Dies page

[cobalt reef]

yop looks very good

[tardy cedar]

check now

i cleaned up the vencord drama section

[cobalt reef]

this looks more objective yea

we should also write first incident sometime

[tardy cedar]

whats the first incident

do u mean first opt outer or the insane gdpr ones

[cobalt reef]

dont u remember

we argued on one review

at that time we didnt have any timed ban tools

you were defending that one review was glorifying n*zism and I was saying the opposite

[tardy cedar]

HORROR

dont add that lmao

[cobalt reef]

then we couldnt get into agreement and since we didnt have a humane ban system it ended up bad

[tardy cedar]

oh right reviewdb was actually removed twice wasnt it

or was that when it was removed with me asking for delete

[cobalt reef]

it got deleed twice

[tardy cedar]

LMAOO

[cobalt reef]

actually we deleted review

[tardy cedar]

try to stay more factual when writing reviews

[cobalt reef]

but we were arguing about whether we should ban the guy or not

[tardy cedar]

like someone wrote that oracle bombed ur server

thats not factual 😭

and try to write with better grammar

like put ur text into grammarly

[cobalt reef]

yop I installed grammarly

I will go to source editing and check before pushing

[cobalt reef]

do I add first incident or not

[signal carbon]

i did

I made a severe and continuous lapse in my judgement, and I don’t expect to be forgiven. I’m simply here to apologize. What we came across that day in the woods was obviously unplanned. The reactions you saw on tape were raw; they were unfiltered. None of us knew how to react or how to feel. I should have never posted the video. I should have put the cameras down and stopped recording what we were going through. There's a lot of things I should have done differently but I didn't. And for that, from the bottom of my heart, I am sorry. I want to apologize to the internet. I want to apologize to anyone who has seen the video. I want to apologize to anyone who has been affected or touched by mental illness, or depression, or suicide. But most importantly I want to apologize to the victim and his family. For my fans who are defending my actions, please don't. I don’t deserve to be defended. The goal with my content is always to entertain; to push the boundaries, to be all-inclusive. In the world I live in, I share almost everything I do. The intent is never to be heartless, cruel, or malicious. Like I said I made a huge mistake. I don’t expect to be forgiven, I’m just here to apologize. I'm ashamed of myself. I’m disappointed in myself. And I promise to be better. I will be better. Thank you.

[rigid jungle]

I apologize for my severe lapse in judgment

[compact olive]

did u mention vaius

[signal carbon]

yop

https://wiki.vencord.dev/index.php/Venbot

[tardy cedar]

@signal carbon please be more objective

"Gayus"
"annoying brainrot kids"
"exploded"

[signal carbon]

k

[compact olive]

Tessie next

also for future clicking https://wiki.vencord.dev/index.php/Special:AllPages

[tardy cedar]

how do i change css

@cobalt reef tell

[cobalt reef]

https://wiki.vencord.dev/index.php/MediaWiki:Common.css

[tardy cedar]

yop found alr

[signal carbon]

is user css enabled?
doesnt seem to work for me
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:$wgAllowUserCss

[tardy cedar]

who made this shit always right aligned

i think @rigid jungle

[cobalt reef]

it happened after I imported wikipedia css

[tardy cedar]

useless just use userthemes

[tardy cedar]

hmmm

i see

[cobalt reef]

maybe we can make it not right aligned

[rigid jungle]

wha

[cobalt reef]

via [[File:thingy]]

[tardy cedar]

it is good for the main table

[cobalt reef]

or however its made

[tardy cedar]

but its awful for other screenshots

[rigid jungle]

don't do thumb??

[tardy cedar]

im not

[cobalt reef]

yeah

[tardy cedar]

https://wiki.vencord.dev/index.php/Dziurwa

[cobalt reef]

if you remove thumb it gets fixed

[tardy cedar]

this is frame not thumb

btw how do i limit the image size

its so massive

[cobalt reef]

remove frame

[sharp carbon]

your balls are massive

[cobalt reef]

it looks normal without frame

[tardy cedar]

ohh

okay

so 500px only works without frame

i see

[cobalt reef]

and with sane size

[tardy cedar]

i made dziurwer page better

[sharp carbon]

horrifying

[tardy cedar]

i dont like that the small image is so low res

how to stop it from resizing @cobalt reef

[cobalt reef]

idk trol

[tardy cedar]

STOP @signal carbon

[sharp carbon]

devilbro slander

[tardy cedar]

https://wiki.vencord.dev/index.php/Help:Contributing

@cobalt reef explode index.php when

replace with wiki

it already works but all the links lead to index.php

i think u need to edit config

i did this

can i just restart wiki service? @cobalt reef

[cobalt reef]

Also fix caddy

[tardy cedar]

NOT BROKEN

[cobalt reef]

Yes but it will probably explode now

[tardy cedar]

why

[cobalt reef]

Because article path will be /wiki now

[tardy cedar]

how to restart

[cobalt reef]

Also

[tardy cedar]

already works via caddy

how to restart

tell

[cobalt reef]

Do /wiki/Page_title

[tardy cedar]

TELLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL

[cobalt reef]

docker compose restart

[tardy cedar]

okay

[cobalt reef]

And because that path doesnt exist it will dieee

[compact olive]

lol

[cobalt reef]

It needs index.php

[tardy cedar]

LMAOOO

go to site rn

[compact olive]

are you responsible for this abomination

[cobalt reef]

Is css dead

[sharp carbon]

real

[compact olive]

The requested page title is too long. It must be no longer than 255 bytes in UTF-8 encoding.

[cobalt reef]

Yeah do caddy @tardy cedar

[tardy cedar]

hmmm

[sharp carbon]

vencord wiki dead

2024-2024

win

[tardy cedar]

but how

it still adds index.php

[cobalt reef]

Make it add imagary index.php in reverse proxy

[tardy cedar]

hmm

how fix

[cobalt reef]

Guh wait

[tardy cedar]

i fixed

https://wiki.vencord.dev/

yop works

dont even need caddy rewrites

[cobalt reef]

how

did you edit apache config

[tardy cedar]

no

just edited LocalSettings.php

[cobalt reef]

actually nvm

the config I sent you first had the config

[tardy cedar]

i made the main page not add /wiki/Main_Page path

main page has no path

[cobalt reef]

looove

[tardy cedar]

$wgArticlePath = "/wiki/$1";

i just had to add this

and it made it work

no caddy rewrite needed

idk how it works but we love

[cobalt reef]

I remember trying that too

but it was exploding

well anyway if it works it works

[tardy cedar]

i improved the formatting of https://wiki.vencord.dev/wiki/Huskbot

duplicate wiki in url is kinda troll

should we change it to /w/

or /a/

xd

[cobalt reef]

Or just

[tardy cedar]

https://wiki.vencord.dev/w/Main_Page

hmm it looks wrong

[cobalt reef]

/$1

[tardy cedar]

i think that might cause isseus

[cobalt reef]

Lets trt and see

[tardy cedar]

did

[cobalt reef]

It works

so far

[tardy cedar]

https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Wiki_in_site_root_directory

Potential need for special rules. You might need special rules for "robots.txt" or "favicon.ico", also for all wiki support files like skin images, extensions that load content from the "/extensions/" folder (such as CSS, JS, or images), and root scripts like api.php, thumb.php, and image_auth.php.

lmaooo https://wiki.vencord.dev/robots.txt

hmm actually this means that every path will cause request

imagine bot scraping many paths

bots will love https://wiki.vencord.dev/.git/config

[cobalt reef]

Well maybe we add a path

But it looks uglyyy

[tardy cedar]

https://wiki.vencord.dev/a/Main_Page

[cobalt reef]

/wiki doesnt really make sense

/a looks ugly

[tardy cedar]

https://wiki.vencord.dev/_/Main_Page

https://wiki.vencord.dev/sdafhjiasfiasifjasijf/Main_Page

lmaooo

what the hell

[cobalt reef]

Love

[tardy cedar]

hmm https://en.wikipedia.org/djsajdsaj/Börek

why does wikipedia not have it but we do

funny

_ also looks bad hmm

what should we do

[cobalt reef]

maybe just /article/

[tardy cedar]

https://wiki.vencord.dev/article/Aliucord

[cobalt reef]

At least people wont go and say
"oh it has a totally dumb and ugly /a/ in path"

[cobalt reef]

Looks fine imo

[tardy cedar]

but it will have it for all paths lmaoo

well anyway

how do we not make it rediretc all 404s

[cobalt reef]

Wait does it do that

Maybe your caddy / rewrite is causing it

[tardy cedar]

oh

wait

i think i know

[cobalt reef]

Whats it

[tardy cedar]

lets see

think this will work?

not working insane

[cobalt reef]

This is getting overly complicated horror

[compact olive]

the fact mantika got this to work is crazy

[signal carbon]

i will write an article encouraging people to use on vendroid

[cobalt reef]

Anyway you fix

It got already pretty late

Bye

[tardy cedar]

still doesnt work

i got it

just had to restart cadder

[compact olive]

css good

[tardy cedar]

CSS DIED

who tf killed css

i just enabled a new extension lmao

fixed

[compact olive]

lol

[signal carbon]

settings no workie :<

[tardy cedar]

try now

[deep shard]

Is working fine for me.

DevilBro is in 'Influential People' but Zere isn't. Poor Zere

[stray knot]

https://wiki.vencord.dev/article/Shiggy

url so much better

[tardy cedar]

added a 404 page

[stray knot]

default url 404s

[tardy cedar]

mm

haram

shouldnt happen

why it happen

[stray knot]

/wiki/Main_Page

[tardy cedar]

thanks

should work now

[stray knot]

yeah it does

[tardy cedar]

insane Caddyfile

let me know if anything else is broken

im manually whitelisting routes

so maybe forgot smth

and inline html is funny

https://wiki.vencord.dev/Vencord

very good

[stray knot]

still funny that vencord page has like the least amount of information

[tardy cedar]

WRITE

[stray knot]

if only there were someone here with extensive knowledge about vencord and it's history

[tardy cedar]

banger idea

we will translate wiki

in different langiages

sure let me write vencord page

[sharp carbon]

index.php jumpscare

[signal carbon]

we will translate vencord wiki in french

and german

and binary

[tardy cedar]

lore has been added https://wiki.vencord.dev/article/Vencord

https://wiki.vencord.dev/article/No_Text_To_Speech

[deep shard]

What's going on with the infobox

[tardy cedar]

whats wrong?

[deep shard]

Should the figure not be centred?

[tardy cedar]

ig

[tardy cedar]

whoever wrote the BD article has no idea about BD lore xd

it was not created by zere, its older than 2017

i fixed it but even i only know very little

i dmed zere about it, hoping he can help out

lets go he said he will help once he has time

also i renamed "Influential people" -> "Notable people" and added stub pages for a few people

https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Discord i could add this

@meager goblet JUMPSCARE

log

i think these infobox rows are decent

would be good to make them consistent for all mods

[signal carbon]

yeah

can't you make like custom infoboxes

with all the field names prefilled

[stray knot]

yeah

[tardy cedar]

good tool

[tardy cedar]

like template?

[signal carbon]

yeah

[tardy cedar]

okay make

maybe even make Mod page template

[signal carbon]

ill try

after i finish schoolwork

(i did vencord wiki all day )

[tardy cedar]

yeah take ur time

hmm "Owner" sounds a bit rough

Lead Developer(s)?

[stray knot]

yeah

also add the (s) to language

[tardy cedar]

should i move #1216554461984723165 to this channel

or better separated

[stray knot]

separated

[tardy cedar]

i think you can add yourself to Notable People

[stray knot]

what all do you want in the mod infobox

[tardy cedar]

but then you should use the article/Wing page and write in third person

[stray knot]

i don't really think im particularly notable

[signal carbon]

you are

you made opencord

[stray knot]

that was xinto

[tardy cedar]

• Vendetta Manager
• Aliucord / Vencord contributions & mod
• Tons of Aliu plugins

id say youre fairly notable

[stray knot]

i forgot about manager

[tardy cedar]

notable people dont necessarily just have to be the lead devs of mods

just people well known in the community for various reasons

i also added NTTS to notable people

[stray knot]

vd manager is the most popular project i did and i completely forgot

[stray knot]

anyways i need this answered

im making the template

[tardy cedar]

also today i learned NTTS is canadian

[tardy cedar]

is there some way to enter iso date and

1. be able to custom render it
2. have it automatically calculate time ago

basically this

[stray knot]

i think there's a module for that

[tardy cedar]

well speaking of dates

we should stop manually writing dates and use the proper formatting so they can be localised

horror

[stray knot]

linking to a date

[tardy cedar]

whats how u do it

[stray knot]

the manual page i found for that says the feature was removed