🧊-off-topic-iceman-only

[steep vigil]

Declines it

[copper garnet]

ight my heart not made for this replies

[jolly temple]

abc_123.ogg

[open pasture]

is this women

[copper garnet]

i hope so..

[open pasture]

you could look like both so you are doing good

[jolly temple]

rocker cover their lives

[jagged skiff]

lets change that

[rain coral]

gonna break tos just for showing a different status than yall

[brave quail]

your aocichnt is all boot

[raw panther]

big fan of file transfer protocol

[copper garnet]

i told a biggot to end it, a couple times

[rain coral]

someone won befor me

[copper garnet]

yeah i sent about 3 or 4 walls of text to a bigot

[open pasture]

try new things idk

discover ya self

[copper garnet]

real!

[steep vigil]

Im so cool

[jolly temple]

deleting the 9th ibs dude

[open pasture]

then keep it like that

be yourself 😔

good

[open pasture]

yes you are

[copper garnet]

dam

[open pasture]

im no latina

[jolly temple]

motherboard

[warm badger]

Shhh

[harsh minnow]

just fixing the bigotry in ur gif

[jolly temple]

doing this channel about browser environments

[open pasture]

eeeyy 😨

[slow crag]

incredible

[jolly temple]

fraud or chad homophobic winner

[copper garnet]

latinx 💔💔💔💔💔

[steep vigil]

Haha loser

[jolly temple]

"haha i opend dc after addin over in win11

[harsh minnow]

Lateinamerikaner*innen

[open pasture]

???

[lapis lava]

lc.tr

[night blaze]

-# <:i:1323844562875187291> Translated from 🇩🇪 German to 🇺🇸 English • Google Translate
Latin Americans

[harsh minnow]

Hurensohn*innen

[open pasture]

LMAOOO

[lapis lava]

Vencord*innen @harsh minnow

[simple perch]

@scarlet bane yard

[atomic magnet]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1352352118794621060/1357436959143760083/i_loooooooooooooooooooooove_mangonster.gif

[static valley]

https://google.com/

[steep vigil]

What

[static valley]

look it up

[jolly temple]

😭 okay that sound epic

[static valley]

it’s too complicated

[steep vigil]

BROTHER IDK THE NAME OF THE GAME

[static valley]

o

helldivers 2

[steep vigil]

Ah

Helldivers

That explains a lot

[atomic magnet]

piepol

[sturdy folio]

learning a lot...

[atomic magnet]

don't think i've tried this one yet

i know that i hate the tea one's and some other kind

[jolly temple]

boiling up for taylor?

[atomic magnet]

zero sugar

oh yea it's that one in the imag

zero cukru

[copper garnet]

oh maan , i was gonna joke about it being the bpd flavor so i researched bpd ... yeah i might have it too

[atomic magnet]

i've tried multiple versions of zero cukru and all of them tsated insnane

[atomic magnet]

ion kno what this means

[copper garnet]

Borderline Personality Disorder

wtf is this shit

[simple perch]

if you just search it and read a bit about it it doesn't necessarily mean you have it

[jolly temple]

@lapis lava snipe him not enough

[atomic magnet]

i dont have bpd i think

[copper garnet]

yeah prolly not i need to ask my chatgpt theraphis on my ungodly ammount of chat i have with it

[open walrus]

Borderline personality disorder
Also called: BPD, emotional dysregulation disorder
Borderline personality disorder is a personality disorder characterized by a pervasive, long-term pattern of significant interpersonal relationship instability, an acute fear of abandonment, and intense emotional outbursts.

[jolly temple]

meowsie so fucked lol what to omitting the bottom

[atomic magnet]

bare prey disorder maybe

[simple perch]

chatgpt won't help with that

[copper garnet]

it wont but at leats it gives me an idea

[copper garnet]

yeah idk what any of that really means

[simple perch]

i have it in my cart for a few months, when i wanted to read more about it but never had enough money

[open walrus]

i can ask chatgpt to break it down in simple terms for you 🙏🏻

[atomic magnet]

i think they're capable of doing that themselves

[open walrus]

No i was not trying, just the definition

[static valley]

god fucking damn i'm steamrolling these fucking clowns

[open walrus]

Indeed

[copper garnet]

imma try to reserahc my own way couse it seems to fit with sum of my problems

?

[open walrus]

Maybe go see a doctor, the internet is not the best place for that

Yeah valid point

[static valley]

they use vencord for their data

[jolly temple]

again because they actually recommends microwave instead

[static valley]

probably

[open walrus]

Just good to sum most important points up quickly

[copper garnet]

yeah ill have to check anyways im getting legal hrt so ill ask them about this and a couple things , worst ccase , ill get sum grippy socks and hoodies without strings

1375 pages

[open walrus]

get it checked up then youre on the safe side :D

[copper garnet]

but i want

[slow urchin]

@sturdy folio i might require your assistance

[copper garnet]

oh

[jolly temple]

mc

[copper garnet]

yeah

[sturdy folio]

with?

[slow urchin]

have you used tauri before? i literally cant figure out a way to have my site communicate to tauri to shrimply close the window

[jolly temple]

:nikonlanger_amaze:

[slow urchin]

i know u are a rust enjoyer

[sturdy folio]

i have not used tauri no

[slow urchin]

guhhhhhhhh

[sturdy folio]

seems like you can just do

import { getCurrentWindow } from '@tauri-apps/api/window';
await getCurrentWindow().close();

from your js

https://v2.tauri.app/reference/javascript/api/namespacewindow/#close

[simple perch]

@slow urchin have you tried "{question} reddit" on goog

[copper garnet]

god damnit

all the text gets fucking mixed up when i read it

[slow urchin]

but theres a secret hidden catch those fuckers added, i cant do this without a bundler,,,,,, issue is: parlix doesnt use a bundler and i dont know how long the process would be to convert it

[sturdy folio]

why would you not use a bundler

[modern epoch]

https://tenor.com/view/hug-gif-25588771

[simple perch]

omaw

[jolly temple]

mom said this replies

[slow urchin]

they seem annoying to me, is it easy to switch to one?

isnt that like

a big process if ur site is already made

[sturdy folio]

insane 😭

[slow urchin]

i've literally only ever used a bundler one time 😭

[copper garnet]

how tf is one supossed to read this when its so close to eachother it just mixes

[sturdy folio]

no it is not a big process, you just have to set up a configuration file and (possibly) change a couple of imports

[sturdy folio]

bundlers are standard nowadays, everything expects you to have a bundler

[jolly temple]

:silly_dotgg_femz:

[slow urchin]

guhhh

[sturdy folio]

because besides dx they also offer better ux with less load times (due to optimisations and minifications), compatibility (with polyfills) & similar

[slow urchin]

idk what to even use

webpack??

vite??

😭

[jolly temple]

boewimg

[slow urchin]

i will use boeing

Lol

[sturdy folio]

you can not go wrong with webpack, vite is also good and if you are searching for maximum performance rspack

[slow urchin]

WAIT I NEED A LOADER TOO???

what even is this im so confused

what is babel

[copper garnet]

im chatgpting this shit until i can have a professional look

[sturdy folio]

?

[slow urchin]

chatgpting my shit rn

[copper garnet]

i got code on my gpt rn

[slow urchin]

is this mandatory

[sturdy folio]

For?

[slow urchin]

why cant i just click "install webpack" and be done with it

[slow urchin]

webpack

[copper garnet]

[slow urchin]

"In general, you
need loaders in Webpack when you want to process file types that Webpack doesn't understand natively. By default, Webpack only understands JavaScript and JSON files. "

sob~1

[jolly temple]

disturbing the namr of legends have modern resources then unless i didnt deal with brainrot

[sturdy folio]

Do you have other types of files even

[copper garnet]

eh i prolly dont have bpd , ive been reading and its just autistic behavior

[fallow drum]

are you vibe coding

[open pasture]

autistic behavior

[slow urchin]

in what directory

i obv have html and css

[fallow drum]

it’s over @sturdy folio

[slow urchin]

no im trying to figure out how bundlers work i've only ever used one once

[sturdy folio]

No you do not need a loader

[harsh minnow]

@modern epoch hi omar

[sturdy folio]

What is over

[fallow drum]

everything

[sturdy folio]

Damn

[harsh minnow]

https://tenor.com/view/gigi-murin-picmix-hololive-whimsical-gif-3198184445080207366

[slow urchin]

thank the lord (peter griffin)

[modern epoch]

hi v

[copper garnet]

ight chatgpt gave me a pdf of my whole ass thing so i can go to a doctor and give it a print of the pdf for a full view

[modern epoch]

...

[lapis lava]

TOP dropped @stark herald https://open.spotify.com/track/6DzXaIgVIH7oLA1pkUtFaG

[jolly temple]

mystery man you wouldn't you were everywhere

[slow urchin]

my head hurts @sturdy folio im being told by chatgpt that in order to have a bundler i need a js entrypoint and if my project doesnt use that then i dont need a bundlr bc nodejs handles it

im

so confused

[stark herald]

I saw notif at work but couldn't listen so I foggot

[sturdy folio]

Do you not have an index js file

[slow urchin]

you WHAT

[atomic magnet]

he foggot

[lapis lava]

your entrypoint is index.js

[slow urchin]

no

[copper garnet]

use cursor it can check the whole project directory

[sturdy folio]

Or do you have a million script tags in your html

[lapis lava]

stop recommending trash

[slow urchin]

i have 1

Lol

[sturdy folio]

That is your entry then

[copper garnet]

mb

[sturdy folio]

Shrimple

[lapis lava]

hop on Vite

kinda good iutl

[jolly temple]

god they lost their stories

[slow urchin]

...explain

[sturdy folio]

what is there to explain

[lapis lava]

Vite is perfection iutl

[sturdy folio]

your entry file is the file that is run first

[slow urchin]

i cant point webpack to an html file tho

[lapis lava]

why do you even need webpack

[sturdy folio]

are you putting html into your script tags

[slow urchin]

i need a bundlr for my site to be able to interact with tauri

[slow urchin]

what

im so confused

[jolly temple]

[slow urchin]

no

[sturdy folio]

i asked you if you have multiple script tags

you said 1

i told you thats the entry

you said its html

[copper garnet]

ight another night i gonna hear highhats until 5am

[harsh minnow]

i use cursor for new vencord features @lapis lava

[copper garnet]

[slow urchin]

i have one main html file that has a custom router that changes its own html and injected scripts and stuff based on path, with one script tag that always stays, none of these tags point to external files, they're just inline js

i cant

use html

as the entry

Lol

[copper garnet]

hell!

[sturdy folio]

that is the absolute most insane way ive ever seen someone do a router

[lapis lava]

unhinged

[slow urchin]

:3

[raw panther]

what new features 😭

[jolly temple]

swipe typing it next time they did something from

[slow urchin]

i mean it works perfectly

shrug

[stark herald]

just got a Moodle notification about an overdue assignment

[sturdy folio]

& is overengineered

😭

[slow urchin]

it's actually over simplified if anything

i didnt know how else to make it

:p

[harsh minnow]

freaky fres forgot his assignment and will now fail his class

[copper garnet]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1329524448403001486/1341203588520869979/watermark.gif

[jolly temple]

max i left all :nod: :nod: i removed

[open pasture]

hello!

[open walrus]

heared deepseek is very critical if you ask it towards china 🙏🏻

[sturdy folio]

its really not, standard is that you just import all the js from your entry then sure swap out the html and make the code for the pages just check with selectors instead of swapping out script tags and whatever

also generally makes the page faster since the browser can preload

[copper garnet]

yeah

[open walrus]

ive tested it out, it sent a response and then changed it to "Lets talk about something else"

[hollow surge]

goldfishes have good memory actually

[raw panther]

https://tenor.com/view/social-credit-gif-23976170

[jolly temple]

soo cute dog!

[open walrus]

https://tenor.com/view/social-credit-social-credit-score-meme-john-xina-gif-23649557

i cannot embed links 💔

[raw panther]

unfortunate

[jolly temple]

presumably no they're just use in just into deltarune to collect things for jsc code that's even if, it'd probably live they do vulkan for random fucking purple

[open walrus]

indeed

[slow urchin]

i genuinely dont have any idea how to explain this besides just sending it

[open pasture]

did you just steal from me

[open walrus]

what-

[sturdy folio]

insane

[open walrus]

did it just tell you to unalive yourself? 🙏🏻

[copper garnet]

me when inspect element

[slow urchin]

so like. what do i do 😭

[open walrus]

i mean you can manipulate chatgpt like this

its funny to have it tell you conspiracy theories and saying this is real 🙏🏻

[open pasture]

the ai told me so its real

[copper garnet]

i just use it to research on myself

[jolly temple]

thoughts?

[open walrus]

source: trust me bro

[copper garnet]

nothing behind that smile

[open walrus]

a way of, well, not 100% self reflecting i guess

[open pasture]

FAM WHAT THE FUCK I SAID HELLO TO YOU

[jolly temple]

turned on????????????????? it does? blown head 😭 how can even type

[copper garnet]

💔💔💔💔

[sturdy folio]

cant really help you anymore since your app isnt set up in any standard or modern way, youll have to figure something out

[open pasture]

:(

hyd

[jolly temple]

hyd?

[open pasture]

BRO

[slow urchin]

there's no way i fucking softlocked myself by building my own prison

sob~1

dont worry guys this just adds another 6 years to parlix development

it's fine

[open walrus]

feels like berlin airport

[open pasture]

Wdym by prison

[atomic magnet]

its so cold in here

[main wyvern]

sentient being

[jolly temple]

vpn that

[slow urchin]

(i'll have it fixed in like 3 days if vibecoding dw (VIBECODING NOT AS IN AI BUT AS IN LIFELESSLY CODINNG FOR LIKE 19 HOURS))

[copper garnet]

100%

[open pasture]

Thats sad

[copper garnet]

@jolly temple meow

[slow urchin]

i made a system that doesnt conform to the norms for webdev and therefore the things i need to make work wont work ever

😭

so now i need to refactor it all, all over again

love

[jolly temple]

found years of (better)discord

[atomic magnet]

why not just contribute to spacebar

[slow urchin]

@sturdy folio wait so what do normal spa's serve? just a blank html that gets set to the contents of another html file that the entry js choses or something? i have a hard time visualizing this

[sturdy folio]

usually spas use frameworks like react lol

you do serve a blank html page, your app is represented as components which are js, they get put through the react renderer which spits out html

and that html is embedded into a div on your html

[slow urchin]

i would rather be doused in liquid nitrogen, covered in ethanol, and set on fire than use react

i've heard and seen how hell it is

[jolly temple]

green on hard drive with (non-indie) games have class colors following the shed in any message challenge and bi

[open walrus]

react is actually pretty cool imo, or at least next.js which ive used in quite many projects

use angular, thats the real pain

[sturdy folio]

react is okay nextjs is horrible

liberate yourself by using any framework that is similar

[jolly temple]

😰

[open walrus]

can we just agree on the fact that angular is horrible pleaee

[sturdy folio]

stuff like nuxt actually makes it worth using the framework by providing good devtools, actual improvements to the base framework and a good api

[slow urchin]

so is it just overall not worth it to build my own thing rather than just using a framework that'll take me forever to learn and will probably remove all of my motivation for parlix at all?

[open walrus]

Ive used it in a project at a company once with scss and bootstrap. Normally i use either react or next.js with tailwind
compared to react it felt like plain html and css

[sturdy folio]

if you go into this with that attitude you might as well just quit now

find a couple popular frameworks, read into it a bit, then choose one and try it out

[jolly temple]

35

[slow urchin]

i just dont want parlix to depend on a bunch of external stuff that could break at any time

[sturdy folio]

if you are good at js it takes max. a day to learn

[slow urchin]

guh

mildly rekindling my motivation

i'll check out react hell and see how it is

[open walrus]

Its not that bad

[jolly temple]

uionboarding is woke nonbinary loser (right)

[open walrus]

its better than php (i have recently looked through old projects and ive seen php there)

[main wyvern]

who is uionboarding

[slow urchin]

the second i looked up something to do with react like "how hard is react for a js dev" i see 900 words i dont understand and concepts that dont mean anything to me

😭

[harsh minnow]

react is easy

[sturdy folio]

react is only bad because it has a bunch of weird quirks

you see if you ignore the bad parts of react its actually really good

[main wyvern]

kevin bigotry in pride month

[sturdy folio]

but you know that requires you to ignore the bad parts

[main wyvern]

smh

[topaz meteor]

Isn't that
Most things

[sturdy folio]

shut up

[open walrus]

everything is good if you ignore the bad parts 😀

[lapis lava]

react so good

[slow urchin]

how hard was your experience going from something like webdev to jsx? u too @lapis lava

[lapis lava]

it's literally HTML 😭

[jolly temple]

flowercat

[lapis lava]

but in JS

you get used to it kinda quickly

[brave quail]

[harsh minnow]

@hybrid sluice

[sturdy folio]

its html put inside your js with a bunch of funny functions that make it easier to modify the html

[slow urchin]

guhh i just dont understand i guess since i dont have practical knowledge

[fallow drum]

erm well that is most webdev frameworks....

[topaz meteor]

JavaScript is

...
Yes

[open walrus]

basically you have a javascript function and instead of some value you make it return html
and done

[fallow drum]

i sense some jealousy here @scarlet bane

[slow urchin]

but what's the point i dont get it, that just sounds like constructors but with memory leaks 😭

[lapis lava]

no?

[topaz meteor]

@shrewd imp what's the meaning of yara

[shrewd imp]

YARA is a tool used for malware analysis and security research.

It helps identify malware families by creating descriptions based on textual or binary patterns. These descriptions are then used to scan files/processes.

Who Asked

@topaz meteor

[lapis lava]

point is you get easily reusable components

[open walrus]

well, you can do calculations and stuff in that function before you render the html / send it to the client

[jolly temple]

lmao im male but this but whyd u try

[lapis lava]

you can also use state to make them rerender whenevre state changes

[slow urchin]

okay i must be insane now it's just sounding like js classes

[sturdy folio]

function Counter() {
  const [count, setCount] = useState(0);

  const increment = () => {
    setCount(count + 1);
  };

  const decrement = () => {
    setCount(count -1);
  }

  return <>
    <button onClick={increment}>+</button>
    <span>{count}</span>
    <button onClick={decrement}>-</button>
  </>;
}

easy

[lapis lava]

react is client side

[fallow drum]

if you can do js + html + css with a breeze then there is not much point in adding in a web framework but you will be missing out on a lot of basic features and will just make web dev harder for you so actually there is a lot of point unless you're schizo ig

[harsh minnow]

https://tenor.com/view/riddler-paul-dano-new-rockstars-thumbnail-does-he-know-he-doesnt-know-gif-27552850

[lapis lava]

how

[jolly temple]

waste of yamato bless u wont

[fallow drum]

but if you are the best web dev in existence and super fluent in plain html, js, and css then just do that. it will always be more performant (1ms load time saved)

[slow urchin]

i like your way with words

[harsh minnow]

ssg exists

[lapis lava]

just use NixOs

[harsh minnow]

dont worry too much about frameworks and stuff if you're a beginner

[slow urchin]

so just...js but it can return an element directly instead of outputting text that u set an elements innerhtml to

[harsh minnow]

just learn basic html, css & js first

later you can migrate to a framework but it just overcomplicates things if you start off with it imo

[harsh minnow]

you almost never want to set inner html

bad for performance, security, etc

[jolly temple]

argentinian and oracao subordinada objetiva indireta

[lapis lava]

v

[slow urchin]

guh

[main wyvern]

I love NixOS

[slow urchin]

this is the third iteration of refactoring parlix entirely and i cant even comprehend react my head hurts

[lapis lava]

try on a smaller project

[sturdy folio]

Vencord.innerHtml = "<script>console.log("hajked")</script>"

[lapis lava]

then when you know youw ay around go with something massive

[fallow drum]

i was under the impression vincent was saying they are already quite fluent in css, js, and html but yeah if you are not confident in all three then it is always best to just continue without a framework because it will only hinder your learning experience

[lapis lava]

@fallow drum

[main wyvern]

[lapis lava]

check emoji name @fallow drum

[main wyvern]

this emoji is so fucking stupid

[slow urchin]

i have a huge fear of dissapointing the people in my dev server tho bc i've been frequently updating them on parlix 😭

[jolly temple]

wanna remake tomorrow im invested in ian kobe for jsc code

[harsh minnow]

wtf is this emoji

[fallow drum]

[harsh minnow]

insane emoji

nino moment

[fallow drum]

check again

[main wyvern]

trash

[lapis lava]

@fallow drum kys

[slow urchin]

i AM quite fluent in css, js, and html idk where ur getting another idea but i think theres a lot of confusion here Lol

[fallow drum]

oh okay

[stark herald]

@ashley0143

[slow urchin]

but the way people here are describing react just makes it sound like js classes but with extra steps

[lapis lava]

i became Tailscale

[fallow drum]

if you aren't in the learning stages of any of the three then idk why not hop on a framework idk

[lapis lava]

vwb

[neon ferry]

who?

[jolly temple]

upgrading later you which generation apart from

[fallow drum]

and No One Noticed

[harsh minnow]

if you were fluent in html / js you'd know that setting html from string is very bad

[fallow drum]

[stark herald]

Iknow

[harsh minnow]

[stark herald]

i can do it right

[open walrus]

my advice
before you combine tauri with react with whatever something, break it down in smaller parts and e.g. start with a small react project to learn it. if youre fluent in html, js, css react should not be that far

[lapis lava]

nin0chat probably does this

[jolly temple]

...explain

[fallow drum]

@harsh minnowweb dev sucks we should all just go back to plain html

[slow urchin]

i do and i also never said i use that to set anything Lol

[harsh minnow]

[jolly temple]

yes the internet i stopped

[main wyvern]

tailscale more like trashscale

[fallow drum]

updating Arc Browser by The Browser Company rn @harsh minnow

[lapis lava]

https://github.com/nin0chat/frontend/blob/e3bb7c3c007b576c69332a41e110295338764b17/src/index.ts#L118-183

finally someone that gets it

i love Tailscale

[harsh minnow]

😭 😭

[stark herald]

make browser but sites aren't html

[jolly temple]

misinformation

[fallow drum]

i bet nino used ai to make this

[lapis lava]

i didn't!

[harsh minnow]

https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/HTML/Reference/Elements/template

[fallow drum]

@harsh minnowthanks babe!

[harsh minnow]

example https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/HTML/Reference/Elements/template#generating_table_rows

[stark herald]

<vee>
\😭
</vee>

[harsh minnow]

just forget about the feature checking if else

[open pasture]

Pick one, rest have to go:
Swift, flutter, koltin...

[harsh minnow]

if someone uses old browser they should just cope

[sturdy folio]

swift

[stark herald]

why is it not unicode emoji

[open pasture]

You don't count.

[stark herald]

@harsh minnow look at mdn CSS paint function it's so good

[jolly temple]

hug

[sturdy folio]

i always count

[harsh minnow]

<freaky>
🇫🇷🇪🇪🇪🇪🇪🇪🇪🇸 😭
</freaky>

[sturdy folio]

kotlin is useless anyway cuz like just use java you lazy ass and who gaf about flutter

[lapis lava]

i☁️ 🇧🇾🇵🇦🇸🇸

[slow urchin]

,, vee i literaly made a comparison between two things i never said i use either 😭

[open pasture]

Kotlin exist so you can use Java stuff, without saying you use Java.

[slow urchin]

vee so insane

[open pasture]

And um, flutter is cool, I think...

[sturdy folio]

useless

[fallow drum]

erm but i think what they're saying is that you used it in a comparison against something that you should do vs something that you shouldn't do

[jolly temple]

:shrug:

[sturdy folio]

useless

[terse cedar]

did anyone figure out why the internet just exploded today

[open pasture]

What the freak.

[slow urchin]

guh it's bc i forgot you can use the constructor to just contruct elements instead of html strings

[harsh minnow]

google done exploder

[stark herald]

background-image: paint(thing)
then you have JS that's like
registerPaint("thing", {
draw(canvas) {
canvas.getComtext("2d").fill("black")
})
or smth like that this just pssuudocode anyway it's goated and I think u can have like animations too

[sturdy folio]

you heard me

[harsh minnow]

badi think

[open pasture]

I'm gonna make a bunch of cool flutter apps..

[sturdy folio]

swift is literally just like the better flutter

[stark herald]

why

only chrome support rn i think

[open pasture]

Mainly because all my android apps kinda suck...

[jolly temple]

vfjd

[sturdy folio]

only problem is that swift is basically apple only & we have to change that

[stark herald]

but very awesome

[copper garnet]

hmm , can Hypra be used as a real name?

[terse cedar]

cloudflare and amazon died too tho

[stark herald]

u can pass parameters too

[sturdy folio]

im so tired actually i need to go to sleep

[stark herald]

like any custom args

and maybe access variables i think

[harsh minnow]

both are mid

[main wyvern]

yea why not

[open pasture]

Become sleepy...

[jolly temple]

jesus christ

[open pasture]

https://tenor.com/view/blahaj-shonk-attack-camera-dive-shark-gif-14344361424253681658

[stark herald]

though the draw thing runs on a worker so some things are limited I think

[sturdy folio]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1215927366459588718/1317158523926216765/caption-5.gif

[stark herald]

for example I don't know if you can fetch the image on the worker

[copper garnet]

https://tenor.com/view/the-voices-meme-cat-gif-23917781

coding ahh coding

[main wyvern]

is there anyone legally named vencord

[sturdy folio]

@harsh minnow is

[hybrid sluice]

dont ever compare my baby to flutter

[harsh minnow]

https://tenor.com/view/gigi-murin-listening-to-women-hololive-yesum-vtuber-gif-6370727912109464990

[open pasture]

Okay, which app do I build in flutter.

[sturdy folio]

an app that tells you to ditch flutter and to use swift

[open pasture]

File manager.

[open pasture]

I cannot use swift for android apps.

[sturdy folio]

says who

[open pasture]

Is it not made for apple stuff...

[jolly temple]

what’s insane 😭 😭 yeah no testing 2.2

[open pasture]

My other option is koltin...

[sturdy folio]

sure but its a programming language you can use it anywhere

[open pasture]

Or jetpack compose stuff.

[sturdy folio]

nerds even made this https://www.scade.io/

[hybrid sluice]

swift is a double edged sword when it comes to cross platform ngl just use kotlin

[open pasture]

Why are the phones from 10 years ago sob.

[sturdy folio]

why the hell NOT!

[open pasture]

I wanna use flutter because it's what Google uses.

[winter girder]

does this look 3d ish? give feedback

quality notthe best because its a ss

[copper garnet]

u want it more 3d?

[weak vale]

reminds me of vscodium logo

[open pasture]

Is that vscodium.

[open pasture]

Wtf.

I said that...

[jolly temple]

wait.

[weak vale]

jinx

[hybrid sluice]

@harsh minnow matryoshka

[harsh minnow]

flutter is alright

[fickle cosmos]

I have too much storage 😭

[sturdy folio]

nobody cares about vscodium i think

[open pasture]

I do.

[sturdy folio]

i tried it once and i wanted to explode after

[open pasture]

I like vscodium.

[winter girder]

its literally just worse vscode

you gain no benefit from using vscodium

[sturdy folio]

b-but the privacy 🥺

[weak vale]

their new logo is cute imo

[hybrid sluice]

tree

[open pasture]

Blue coral.

[hybrid sluice]

coral is cool

[winter girder]

@harsh minnow backup your claim

[spring trellis]

about to board one of eight buses i'll be unwillingly riding today

[sturdy folio]

should i get xenoblade 2 even tho i already have it

[jolly temple]

insider preview

[slow urchin]

i think this was a good decision

im proud of myself :3

[jolly temple]

sure dude gcp, aws, and koda finally done with their pawprint

[slow urchin]

@winter girder has paws confirmed

[hybrid sluice]

@harsh minnow compile vencord to hermes bytecode

[sturdy folio]

ill be moving parlix to react-rust next

[winter girder]

the hell is parlix

[harsh minnow]

https://tenor.com/view/gigi-murin-holojustice-hololive-hololive-english-chibi-gif-14800318336446533488

[jolly temple]

yas

[slow urchin]

unironically if you port parlix to rust ever and its maintainable i will partner with you so that the techbros are a bit happier with their alternative parlix build

[winter girder]

my hands are finally normal now

no eczema 🙏

[slow urchin]

my successor to discord, it's a chat app

also hai koda ltns

[winter girder]

insane

im making one too

[slow urchin]

no way

Lol

[winter girder]

@slow urchin you think i could help work on parlix?

[main wyvern]

hop on pictochat!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[jolly temple]

give feedback

[weak vale]

y'all need to combine efforts

[main wyvern]

fr

[slow urchin]

guh what are your experiences with web development (i know ur good at webdev i think this is just a mandatory question)

[winter girder]

MPGA, Make Parlix Great Again /s

[winter girder]

I would want to do backend stuff if thats possible

im great at backend

[slow urchin]

that's something i'll always need help in so honestly fuck yeah

wanna take a look at my auth system i wrote a few days ago

[sturdy folio]

use dioxus::prelude::*;

#[component]
pub fn Counter() -> Element {
  let count = use_signal(|| 0);

  rsx!(
    button {
      on_click: move |_| count.write() = count + 1,
      "+"
    }
    span { count }
    button {
      on_click: move |_| count.write() = count - 1,
      "-"
    }
  );
}

[winter girder]

add me to the github repo and stuff and ill get to work

[slow urchin]

it's pretty sick

[slow urchin]

koda u might wanna take another look at that screenshot

tis postponed

[jolly temple]

xbps-install challenge

[winter girder]

perfect development time 🙏

[slow urchin]

😭

[jolly temple]

lol what level complete the video games lol what then it worked

[slow urchin]

join my dev server

also parlix has no repo yet :3

i refuse to let copilot steal my code (/j i know you can disable that)

[winter girder]

send inv

[slow urchin]

status

[sturdy folio]

im too busy making my dumbass metroid fusion remake

and with that i mean going to sleep

[slow urchin]

nini chloe thanks for the help good luck with ur game :3

[hybrid sluice]

I suggest you add it to a private repo for backing it up

[slow urchin]

yesyes

[sturdy folio]

Good night!!

[hybrid sluice]

goodnight!

dude im gonna cry

venbot not choose the worst color challenge

vreroll-cotd

[jolly temple]

bare prey disorder characterized by fast i wrong or something casual windows updates be found

[spring trellis]

no such package...

omg should i package blobcatcozy for void

[open pasture]

Can we be aliens.

[misty robin]

hello idiots

[hybrid sluice]

hey

[misty robin]

i need help

with

pc partsd

for friend

[jolly temple]

badi think what if vibecoding dw (vibecoding not what gpu

[misty robin]

he said he needs a pc with a budget of 18k kroner

[main wyvern]

vcotd

[neon ferry]

The cozy of the day is lilac! (#db91ef)

[misty robin]

issue is, idk what tf to choose in that price

vcotd

[neon ferry]

The cozy of the day is lilac! (#db91ef)

[main wyvern]

good color

[misty robin]

uh huh

[misty robin]

ik yall mfs be programmers and all

so can this be helped

[harsh minnow]

malware

[misty robin]

https://se.pcpartpicker.com/list/xJrgxg ts sucks but its just a template so far

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1015060231060983891/1381718584991940719/3sbmTLo.gif

holy shit flcl

[atomic magnet]

what do you mean

[misty robin]

ofc...

[open pasture]

Oh yeah? Police police police police police police.

[misty robin]

yuh it is

can someone help me with this 💔

[harsh minnow]

@scarlet bane https://tenor.com/view/fried-cat-gif-25713807

[spring trellis]

my bus driver is trans

[misty robin]

@scarlet bane

pc parts

friend wants pc

[open pasture]

NOOO

[misty robin]

for 18k kroner budget

ts SUCKS

[weary mason]

https://w3schools.com

Web site

[weak vale]

lc.wa 18000 kroner to usd

[night blaze]

18000 kroner to usd

$1803.11 (US dollars)

Wolfram|Alpha • labsCore • Page 1/5

[open pasture]

The fucking goat that taught me everything...

[weak vale]

oh

[open pasture]

I loved w3schools.

I learned so much webdev.

[slow urchin]

i have 1 kroner

nvm taxes

i have

0.23 kroner

[weak vale]

any reason you have an mATX mobo in an ATX case

[misty robin]

fuck if i know

nro

[weak vale]

other than that it's good

[misty robin]

i didnt even noticed

that it was micro ATX

LOL

[misty robin]

huh

THERES NO FUCKING GPU

I NEED A GPU

[weary mason]

Ive only used it for HTML stuff

[weak vale]

that too

[weary mason]

Like did you know about <small>?

[weak vale]

do they need a monitor and peripherals

[weary mason]

Now i use it for php reference

[weak vale]

$1.8k budget is crazy

[misty robin]

no

[misty robin]

that isnt bad tho

[misty robin]

anyways uhh

i guess the price

mATX

also the fact he needs only 32 gb of ram

not much else

[atomic magnet]

winter next month

just a month away

[river thunder]

Alright @scarlet bane, in 1 week and 1 day: ⛄

[open pasture]

?remindme January 1 2099

[river thunder]

Alright @open pasture, in 73 years, 6 months and 2 weeks: …

💡 Did you know you can set your timezone with "?timezone set"?

[spring trellis]

[weak vale]

rx 9070

[atomic magnet]

80 degree

[open pasture]

Let's see which of us makes it there..

[weak vale]

wait that might be too pricey

[spring trellis]

fuck this bus is so unearthly

unhealthy

[misty robin]

uhhh

[atomic magnet]

14© outside and my feet are freezing off (at home

why did i even unwear socks

[signal rose]

14c is such a nice temperature wdym

its almost warm

[misty robin]

@weak vale ok so

[atomic magnet]

not warm enough for my body i think

[misty robin]

i might have to

redo all of this

help me out

https://se.pcpartpicker.com/list/hr4Wdb absolutely dislike micro ATX's

now ill need to change something out

[raw panther]

14 copyright

[misty robin]

to fit this one]

budget is 27k

this is for another friend

i need to sacrifice the cpu for something

or idk

need help

https://tenor.com/view/silly-cat-kitty-kitteh-looking-at-camera-gif-27561971

[signal rose]

cat

[open pasture]

Me.

[river solstice]

🦎

[open pasture]

Reject lizard, become a cat.

🐱

[river solstice]

mrrrowww

snat snat

snat: Like A Dragon

[spring trellis]

thanks for letting me know, bus that sounds ready to burst into flames

[river solstice]

ocr translate please

wtf

wtf!!

[sinful lynx]

I ate 15 cats

[raw panther]

explodiu

[sinful lynx]

Unless you want me to undigest it. You ain't getting any

[bold adder]

i deleted 275k+ files from my trash

⠀

[weak vale]

if they can do without nvidia's raytracing and DLSS you could actually afford a better CPU. it's better to have a GPU bottleneck anyways https://se.pcpartpicker.com/list/8BwQnp

[misty robin]

wanna know something funny

[weak vale]

[misty robin]

i made it work

oh wait wtf

WTF

LOL WAIT

https://se.pcpartpicker.com/list/fWxMxg

here

[weak vale]

erm

oh

[misty robin]

fits price budget too

lel

ram is pretty good and cheap

[weak vale]

yop this works

[misty robin]

also im not looking to give him a bottleneck

this is on par so its good

[weak vale]

there will always be a bottleneck, either the cpu or gpu will be faster

[misty robin]

eh true

[misty robin]

uh oh

[weak vale]

i mean it's probably fine? bottleneck calculators are not accurate anyways

[misty robin]

how bad is a 9700x

with a rtx 5080

[river solstice]

ClearType KILLS

[rare trout]

what

[river solstice]

I forgot what it's called

subpixel anti-aliasing

or something

the LCD one hurts my eyes

[harsh minnow]

didn't you say he had a budget of like 1.8k$

should probably go for amd gpu over nvidia unless you really care about RT or dlss, you're getting more for your buck

[river solstice]

how are those Intel GPUs holding up

[misty robin]

one of the friends wanted the budget

1.8k

AND

uhh

idk the amount

27k

kroner

so im doing 2

a favor

[harsh minnow]

which country

[misty robin]

sweden

[harsh minnow]

there's Danish, norwegian and Swedish Krone

[misty robin]

both of them

[harsh minnow]

lc.wa 27k SEK to USD

[night blaze]

27k SEK to USD

$2862.59 (US dollars)

Wolfram|Alpha • labsCore • Page 1/5

[harsh minnow]

so $2.8k, not $1.8k

[river solstice]

I think they said two friends

[misty robin]

this is for two friends

one wants 1.8k

the other 2.8k

[harsh minnow]

oh

[misty robin]

whats so hard understanding that

[harsh minnow]

why such a specific number lmao

[misty robin]

thats their budget

Shrug~1

[weak vale]

7900 XTX and 9800X3D would be all AMD and just barely fit the budget

[harsh minnow]

no need to be rude I was just clarifying

[misty robin]

mb then

[harsh minnow]

cause this is not very clear lmao

[misty robin]

ig

okay im just lost

[harsh minnow]

who needs such a crazy cpu tho

[misty robin]

https://se.pcpartpicker.com/list/8BwQnp

[misty robin]

honestly they dont even need allat

just 8 cores 16 threads

done

gayming

[harsh minnow]

is your friend a gamer mostly or do they do cpu heavy work

[misty robin]

they mostly do gayming

[misty robin]

gamer

[harsh minnow]

if they're a gamer then you should invest less in cpu and more in gpu

[misty robin]

uh huh

hold on

the list i made then

let me see

this is good then right?https://se.pcpartpicker.com/list/fWxMxg

for what he is looking for at least @harsh minnow

[topaz meteor]

Did Kevin fall asleep again

[misty robin]

honestly this is pretty much enough

no need for more

ig the friend with 2.8k is done

@harsh minnow now, i need help with the friend with a 1.8k budget

[modern epoch]

stop pinging vee every 2 seconds

[misty robin]

https://tenor.com/view/silly-cat-kitty-kitteh-looking-at-camera-gif-27561971

not worth my time to chatter with you

[modern epoch]

https://tenor.com/view/tsukasadeath-gif-5730359720213179921

[misty robin]

i tend to ping people tons like that

[harsh minnow]

fortnite 1000fps

[misty robin]

https://se.pcpartpicker.com/list/MCfBHW

i think i can just

land him an amd gpu?

dont know

[weak vale]

slightly over budget but i think 9070 XT would be a good combo https://se.pcpartpicker.com/list/GnmcrM

[harsh minnow]

yeah i was also gonna suggest 9070xt

[night blaze]

$(R$2050)

$370.28 (US dollars)

Wolfram|Alpha • labsCore • Page 1/5

[misty robin]

uh oh

[river solstice]

Pro

[misty robin]

okay what abt the nvidia options?

not saying "no amd sucks no!!!"

just wanna see

amd is obviously better its just my friend is used to nvidia

[river solstice]

can you settle for a 2080Ti

[misty robin]

9070xt then

[harsh minnow]

well 9070xt and 5080 are comparable (5080 is slightly better) but amd is usually a lot cheaper

on the other hand fsr is worse than dlss and raytracing also isn't as good on amd

so if they really care about raytracing or upscaling, nvidia is the obvious choice, otherwise just compare the price

[river solstice]

does anyone here use FSR/DLSS

I don't understand the point of it when games look worse with it on

[misty robin]

this is cheaper for sure

ill go ask the guy

[bold adder]

when people talk with me about pcs or stocks
its like talking to me about linux (i know nothing)

⠀

[harsh minnow]

In some games FSR with sharpening unironically looks better than the other antialiasing options so in those I do (although my card is old so it doesn't have fsr4)

[river solstice]

that's basically SSAA, which (mostly) exists in most older games

I do like having the option for DLDSR

but I wouldn't need to use it if games had proper anti-aliasing implemented

[harsh minnow]

but only upscaling, I tried frame gen and it was atrocious

[river solstice]

motion interpolation

[harsh minnow]

framegen just feels laggy to me

[misty robin]

man this is just atrocious

he doesnt care abt ray tracing but

he would like good graphics and performance

[harsh minnow]

lmfao

either card will do

[misty robin]

i dont wanna shock him with an amd card yet

nvidia isnt as friendly either

[river solstice]

do any of these features matter when barely any game implements support for them

[misty robin]

no

not at all

alr so

he says he wants a balanced gpu pretty much

which is what i said before

for his budget, what tf should i go for

[harsh minnow]

just 9070xt or 5080 didn't we already establish that xD

[river solstice]

4070

[terse cedar]

honestly a 50 series card is too much unless you are doing raytracing, ai or rendering

[modern epoch]

false

4070 ti super

[misty robin]

oke

[harsh minnow]

this uses 9070xt too https://pcpartpicker.com/guide/377Ycf/magnificent-amd-gamingstreaming-build

[misty robin]

fuuyoh!

alright

[modern epoch]

nzxt h7 flow is better and cheaper..

[misty robin]

uh huh...

hold on then

[harsh minnow]

lol even my way worse 1000$ pc can run cyberpunk on high

you'll be finee

5600x
6700xt
16gb ram

[terse cedar]

you shouldnt care about bottlenecks if you arent using your pc at 100%

[harsh minnow]

[misty robin]

uhhh should i drop the cpu down?

he prob would just need like a

7800

or sum

[modern epoch]

me is
5600x
4070 ti super
32gb ram

[misty robin]

ill go check

[harsh minnow]

I need to buy a better cpu cooler the stock cooler ain't cutting it for me anymore

[jade finch]

I can run it maxed out at 60fps totally not at 540p upscaled with dlss and with frame gen. totally no mods to improve path tracing performance either

[hybrid sluice]

ill cool u

[terse cedar]

mine
ryzen 5 2600
32gb ram
gtx 1660

[jade finch]

I can get like 30fps in dogtown tho then the frame gen starts crapping itself

[modern epoch]

STOCK COOLER VE!

you've committed a crime..

[harsh minnow]

it's always worked fine for me

[modern epoch]

smh

[harsh minnow]

I researched online and people were saying it's good enough

which it indeed was

[misty robin]

https://se.pcpartpicker.com/list/C23pnp is somehting like this alright?

[jade finch]

Ryzen 7 5800x
RTX 3080 10GB
32GB RAM

[modern epoch]

hop on i9-14900k + a stock cooler

[jade finch]

my youngest sister just got a 9600x which has better gaming performance than mine

pretty close anyway

[modern epoch]

[misty robin]

https://se.pcpartpicker.com/list/y8K9Lc

no clue really

[jade finch]

@misty robin I think both these options are good and I doubt they'd bottleneck with much

[misty robin]

but which one should i go for?

[jade finch]

what PSU are you getting though?

idk really

[misty robin]

oh it didnt specify it?

shit

i forgot

[jade finch]

I'd just pick whatever seems the best value for money, check benchmarks

[river solstice]

get something that won't explode

[jade finch]

seeing as the 9600x has similar performance to my CPU but slightly better I'll compare my graphics card to it because I think my hardware matches up pretty well

@misty robin I'd say the 9600x based on some benchmarks I had a quick look at

faster GPU than the 3080

[misty robin]

cpu tho

[jade finch]

yeah I'm saying the 9600x may pair pretty well 9070 xt

[misty robin]

ig thats that then

should i send this over to him?

[jade finch]

https://youtu.be/Zx1-utOCJtA

[harsh minnow]

what psu did you choose

[jade finch]

idk why I removed the embed it wasn't necessary really

[misty robin]

750 watt one

[river solstice]

buenas https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1184599007629152336.gif?size=48&animated=true&name=wavey

[misty robin]

from msi

[jade finch]

PSU choice is definitely important. make sure it's a known brand, has a lot of positive reviews and actually has an efficiency rating

[river solstice]

that doesn't seem like enough power for a 5080

[misty robin]

?

its a 9070xt

for the 1.8k friend

[river solstice]

oh okay

[harsh minnow]

I'd suggest 1000w instead

[jade finch]

750w might be enough

[misty robin]

https://tenor.com/view/silly-cat-kitty-kitteh-looking-at-camera-gif-27561971

die

[jade finch]

I just wouldn't go any lower

[river solstice]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-brick-meme-break-explode-gif-13868715770986833670

[harsh minnow]

750 is the bare minimum

1000 is safer and also more future proof

[jade finch]

that's a point

[misty robin]

yea, just in case he ever needs to upgrade

[jade finch]

what PSU are you getting though

please don't buy a cheapo one

[misty robin]

oh okay

[jade finch]

grr why are graphics cards like this nowadays

[jade finch]

I remember when a 600w PSU was overkill

[harsh minnow]

cause more power needs more power

my psu is 650w

[jade finch]

that should be good I reckon but definitely check reviews

[misty robin]

fuck my life

[jade finch]

I don't know of any MSI power supplies blowing up

[misty robin]

gigabyte ❤️

[jade finch]

good efficiency rating

[harsh minnow]

6700xt

[jade finch]

FUCK NO

[river solstice]

$499 USD

[harsh minnow]

I don't think any popular brand name psu is ever gonna blow up

[river solstice]

Seasonic

[misty robin]

its bait

[harsh minnow]

worst you'll get is like your pc crashing cause your psu is too weak

[misty robin]

their shit blows up all the time

[jade finch]

https://www.reddit.com/r/pcmasterrace/comments/1i7br8w/my_gigabyte_mouse_caught_fire_and_almost_burned/

how the fuck does a mouse catch on fire

[river solstice]

is that a frog

[jade finch]

like HOW

[river solstice]

lithium

[jade finch]

it's a wired mouse too so it's not a li-ion battery that got a little too spicy

I think anyway

[river solstice]

USB is super safe

[simple perch]

@scarlet bane

do you play gd

[jade finch]

https://youtu.be/7JmPUr-BeEM

[modern epoch]

hi

i do

[hybrid sluice]

https://tenor.com/view/doro-dorothy-nikke-gif-3492096921929364235

[jade finch]

https://tenor.com/view/gigabyte-psu-gamers-nexus-pc-bomb-planted-gif-22845602

[simple perch]

OMAW

[modern epoch]

hi my dear

[simple perch]

https://tenor.com/view/sakura-trick-hug-shoujo-ai-gif-7254556512884855666

[modern epoch]

https://tenor.com/view/hug-gif-25588771

[rain coral]

didnt know ollie teached math one time https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PL6DI34hJswwSOma-ifEFJZ0Ht8kz2qufn

for like 9 times

scary

day 1532 without using derivatives

im grateful

nop

i am not planning to make the next ai

[weak vale]

i don't believe you, prove it

[rain coral]

(i dont think they use this algebra)

when will discord support latex

[river solstice]

prefer nitrile

https://tenor.com/view/wawa-cat-fancam-kotaro-kitty-bow-tie-gif-1467989800390001999

[weak vale]

v nice

i remember derivatives but i forgot how to do limits

graphing program... this sounds like cheating

[simple perch]

holy yapping