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i just use konsole
electron based terminal
oh yeah i saw this yesterday on twitter
electron
why use it
skull
despite being on gnome
yuck
last time i remember i swear it was
rust terminal cool
dementia
but still dont you need to login to the terminal
no
not anymore it seems
i like my wezterm
wezterm <3
only issue is opening the first window takes a little bit of time

its no foot in terms of speed
for me it's pretty much instant 
i love xfce terminal
/nix/store jumpscare
this looks interesting
i need to wait like a second and im on an ssd
takes maybe like 3 seconds for me
i just remembered i wanted to customize my neovim (and/or my terminal) to look similar to this
it looks so good
LMAO that's exactly what i asked when saw it first time
wth

wait what the scallop
insane
why
ye you have a seperate program for that
why not just have a seperate window
@fallow pawn if minecraft kernel panics my macbook does that mean i have too many mods
it means your os is shit 
@sudden sun
minecraft kernel?
meowterm>>
or more accurately your kernel is shit
just minecraft alone should never be enough to cause a kpanic
can i do that on a jailed iphone
ok but consider this
i am on beta
fair

oh aight thank u sm!
termux
i have been on beta os for very long
idk if its a thing on ios
i dont think it's on app store is it
damn
its sandboxed so it won't get u that far in terms of freedom but it still is something
@jaunty trellis nvm it wasnt even a panic battery ran out

lol
nvm that's not it, idk how to get the access
makes sense ig bc my battery is old and probably cant keep up with power demand when i uncap my fps
which i just did
insane
thankfully i get 260fps which is insane
insane
I get way too much fps in mc to do anything with so I just cap it to 2x refresh rate
well you can't set it at exactly 288 so I just set it to 280
wholesome
don't really care though
70Hz display?
why does everyone always disable vsync
i think that's only true on low-endish pcs
guh?
and i mean... how can u tell if ur fps is capped
I already get forced vsync cuz of wayland so vsync in games is useless
eyes if its low enough
and without having to do vsync twice you get slightly lower latency
okay then there's no point in vsync cuz u will never hit your refresh rate
im talking about the cases where you can already reach the fps of your monitor refresh rate
like why do you need more fps than your refresh rate
i wonder if stuff like g-sync is better with latency
because a lot of game's inputs are dependent on fps
Why would you rot your sanity with competitive games
better lows
cuz like i aint gonna lie i never really noticed that latency diff
g-sync lower latency through some black magic shit
i don't
it is very slight
exactly! i would never
like we are talking frames of lalatency
I stopped using optifine because it stuttered a lot if I had really intensive shaders
and because it's outdated now
OH SHIT I forgot it's today
is there 30HZ display??
which is years to the average CSGO sweat shooting me on dust 2 through the doors
sodium's lows are SO much better
fuck those people
i believe that is called a cheap TV
or a cheap monitor
Tvs probably have 24hz
idk if they make 24Hz panels
doubtful
but yes TV is typically broadcasted at 24 i believe
sometimes 30
again
i think
idk
not a tv expert
24Hz panels didn't go forward because a large portion of the world population is sensitivity to motion
So they did 48Hz and 72Hz instead
i think 24fps is for like movies and not for regular tv programs
24 is movies and animation usually
although animation is weird
they say its 24 but then they actually animate 12
So, the panel itself is 48Hz/72Hz but the media tends to be 24Hz
12Hz isn't very good for motion
that's crazy
it depends on the media
Chinese phone bullying iphone
spider man: into the spiderverse was animated entirely on twos
to have a more comic like feel
iirc
only miles is animated at 12fps
actually yeah you might be right
the other characters and the scenario are animated at 24fps
but still 12 can work depending on what they're animating
so can 8 and 6
yea you're right
spiderman into the spiderverse animation was in spiderman miles morales
and i thought my game was lagging, it was just a skin where it made you swing in 12fps
i remember when the pizza bots in fnaf security breach were animated at 10 fps
looked funky
honestly didn't mind though because the rest of the game was running at 60
ok anyways i am going to go consume food goodbye
stalker2
Even now, I still have a vendetta again the map bots. Those things terrified me
Existing a lift and that motherfucker jumpscares you π
NTSC is 29.97, PAL is 25, though idk how much those standards matter now
pretty sure that game won't run on my pc
me
π
pretty sure there's no innovative gameplay in this game
mfs be voting for anything
i still hate the idea of stslker2
it's just you surviving
that's what I'm doing irl, why would i do it in a game..
- spend $60 (600 (like 12 days work in my country))
why is ai generated art starting to get good
cant even find continuity errors
this is scary
ok i am back i lied
fr
I'd rather kms than use a platform owned by Elon
haven't played it myself but from lets plays it looked mid
same
it just kinda looks like soebody remade stalker in unity lol
you use discord
doesn't feel like the amount of polish you should have for a AAA game
Elon doesn't own Discord...
soontm
terrible
how
holy shit real
Matrix so good

I need to find a way to get around this CGNAT
So I could use my desktop as a server once I get a Thinkpad
ooh which one are you getting
Prob either a T480, or a T440p then upgrading it
lmfao it's not like downloading the game would take all that time with average internet speed 


really need m series macbook
T440p + upgrades would perform the same as the T480 whilst costing a bit less
i just scrolled through used ones on ebay until i found one that i liked tbh
we know
what is considered average
heh
$100 for a P1 Gen 3???
what
guuys um
you guys got "it takes too" for free too??
it says i got some "friend pass" or something i googled it and someone gifted me the game even if I don't own it?
no
oh
on steam
i meant like mbps lol
oh lmao
actually a good question, but like i've seen many people replying to my 100mbps download speed as "wtf how do you consider it slow, mine is like X/10"
Maybe renting a dirty cheap VPS and using it as a proxy could be the solution
guys
how in the world gh copilot knows my last name
that could work
you can get ones for like a few dollars a month
i think it was thinkpad p1 gen3 
he is scaring me off like hell
100 is unusably slow to me at least
nah....
but i do batch downloads a lot
usable to me
everyone in my vicinity has really slow download speeds
but the 300 i have is nice sometimes
like sub 100
for big downloads
it's just i used to get like up to 500mbps but now it's 300 max and with a VPN it's like 20mbps (

)
and torrenting many very linux ISOs
????????
i only torrent legally acquired media
i get about 800 down but im bound by macbook
slow as balls
our gigabit is cheap tho so we good
HUH
huh what vpn is so slow
maybe I'm not behind a IPv6 CGNAT
everything is cheap
nahhh its only 130gbs
not that long...
i think i downloaded it in 25 minute
only half a day
i think u still need to install like cod hq, bo6 campaign and like cod base
ms flight sim 2020 is so scummy
you download the game off steam
2gb
but then boom
140GB download or some shit
outside steam
mw3 was like 250-300gb for me
COD HQ is like 2GBs, bo6 campaign can be skipped unless you want to play it
and idk what cod base is
my brain not fully functioning yet
dunno then, cuz i def remember the folder with mw3 was 200+gb
you proibably had everything selected
200GB download with 8k textures just to play the game on a 1660
me when i have instagram reels without ads
i downloaded just multiplayer + zombies for bo6 and it was less than 130GBs
i have no idea why i put a dollar sign there
Tailscale Funnel could help to get around this CGNAT
reels my beloved
CGNAT :c
when i had mediacom thats what i had
mediacom was soooo bad they had a gigabit package... but it was only gigabit down
lol
your up was 60 if you were LUCKY
I got both 650Mbps download and upload
i got 95..
you clearly have never worked with exposed and raw copper
i am an electrician
also copper is a heavy metal
it disinfects
it literally gets rid of smells
good morning
idk bro ive smelled copper that shit does not smell like nothing
This seems very good hmm https://github.com/girlbossceo/conduwuit
idk what kinda copper you're smelling then
haii
conduit isn't
i need a drink my throat feels weird it feels like i have food stuck in my throat or something even tho i havent even eaten today
Chat, whatβs yalls progrsss on advent of code
the what
i need to buy new HDDs
so i can get my NAS back online
my progress is 0
my NAS has been off for like 2 months now π
i stopped doing it after day5 
tho gh copilot chat has some limitations
why is it SO MUCH slower with a vpn help
his code auto-complete is free forever right
what vpn are you using
either vpn or your puter has a bottleneck
pia but that's most likely not the vpn as i even tried the same vpn i use on my phone where i get regular speed
and how far away is the one you're using from you
hm
CPU bottleneck?
i doubt it, youd only get an issue like that unless you have like a Core Duo or you have like a 100GBe connection
like encrypting all your traffic in real time n stuff
i mean if an iphone can do so
oops
i mean unzipping steam games during downloads can bring the best of desktop processors to their knees
LMFAO
can it run roblox
but like that's the only issue i've had
assuming it didnt get nuked from the whole one thing then yea there will def not be a cpu bottleneck
the perf cores are ofc the higher performing cores but the eff cores are about equal to like a 5-7th gen i7 or something
i forgot the exact comparison but something like that
i have three possible explanations for my slow vpn:
- winblows
- the isp/gov slowing down the vpn
- smth with my wifi adapter/driver
i find 2 and 3 hard to believe
i find them all believable lmfao
ISPs HATE vpns
because it prevents them from stalking what you do
so sometimes they'll give you a middle finger
i've never had such problems
13th gen π
holy shit its maxwell
yeah but i hadn't known about it before i bought it :(
its a 600kf should be fine(?) with bios updates
as long as you updated your BIOS and shit immediately upon you knowing you might be fine
as long as no degredation
might be fine
it started before the updates tbf
but that's mostly 14900k/f
updated your BIOS
idk i fully updated my setup when i got the cpu
bloody hell
whenever i forget about psp, Pinterest shows me one
i mean i think if something was wrong w my cpu i'd probably have known by now
youd be surprised
when did you get the cpu?
june iirc
should be good
one of the 24 people who bought an intel cpu after May
i think i even have like the batch number of my cpu
nah june should be fine if you updated your bios then
I'd just try to remember to update it on a schedule for all of my systems
oh yeah i forgot the whole intel 13th gen fiasco
13th/14th
i ordered it on 22nd june
your ISP/some black magic with data
i check like once a month for a bios update
cant remember specifics I only do outside of plant
W
i dont get them frequently because mid range motherboard for a CPU thats 2 gens old now
but still good to check
and for a socket that isnt even current either
my B650E is forgotten by Asus
my b550 is also forgotten by asus
still supported and every 3 months
I dislike how most bundles on Microcenter are w/ Asus
but cant complain otherwise
i think i should be good?
its not as important as these two but maybe ill do it eventually
nice
wait what
That mobo is great, I think that model is one of the better b550
i could have sworn i updated this past what its on what π
vcotd

b550 in general is the golden standard for blck overclocking
who wanna be added to the tree
crimas!!!!
blck should bypass it
Add me :3
but with x3d sensitivity heat would kill it
yeah but then you get stability issues
you get stability issues
ughhhh
i thought it was sensitive to voltage not heat
so angry with canary rn
also what vers is your mobo on
3202 π
yeye im just tired
gifting windows is 
thats mantika btw
what teh fuck
real
a few versions behind
update it nmeow
yeah i know this just suited the gift very good
tru i probably should
what is that
Thought finals were supposed to be hard
Like right now stinker
Mee
add me becaue that would be funny i think
let me find my trusty usb flash drive
vencord christmas tree
get a pfp π
im the best player at trying to reach S but not actualyl getting it
noooo
@stiff urchin hiiii
so many rows being filled up
i thought this image was something aoc-related for some reason at first 
hey wireshark..... i dont think this is what you think it is
its just christmas tree
ikr 
i have Β£1.71 in my bank account
can i be ons it π₯Ί
not looking good
yus!!
yayy
@soft portal :3
ok time to brb a package got delivered plus i gotta bios
helooooo
is that a bios file lmao
ye
@small bramble you
@warped moat also you
it'll be super embarrassing if i say "what's a bio" but I don't want to get bullied
guys i'm making a game in SMBX do you have any idea what i could put in it
i hate this screen
i only did cause my bios was like a year out of date
and I was missing some relatively important patches
insane
like LogoFAIL patches 
mine had the latest bios when I got it
there's been a ton of updates since then
also
Startup finished in 47.542s (firmware)
old
just had to resetup my bios that was fun
@fallow pawn haii
hai
my laptop hasn't had a bios update in years 
congrats
i cant even update the bios on mine manually
because apple 
why is windows using 7gbs of ram since the moment it boots
that feels a bit
much.
Cuz it's windows
tru
turn it off if you dont like it
@stiff urchin you're going to become a zip bomb
noooo
@wraith osprey hii
how did you know
I always know
ram is ram and ram is meant to be used
yeah by games and shit, not by hungry programs π
(memory leaks π€€)
M
chromium uses all your ram so you have blazingly fast web experience
I keep @paper gate in ram
roman preschooler counting ^
awesome ?
@fallow pawn what is this darkmode icon skul
ms paint bucket
hey don't call cats by a shit π
at least it has the new interface now!
my cat was screaming at me for a good 5 minutes WHILE I WAS FEEDING HIM
LIKE DUDE
GIVE ME THE TIME TO GET TO YOUR BOWL
LMFAO
i would love to have a cat asking me to go and feed it
my mom doesn't allow me to have cats 
I don't think it looks very good sadly
they didnt lie this feels snappier
same
i have a cat and I love him to death but he gets so fucking annoying
he doesn't do cat noise he SCREAMS
is he okay then?
yes he is
pointercrate pocket better,,
he's a dramaqueen
it's done badly imo xD
if you poke him he'll act like you pushed him with all your might
vf cotd
it will be open source mit later this month silly
so cute
cat screaming at you to give him food 
im not even joking sometimes my dog like smells him from a cm away and he acts like she pushed him
what license
Vcotd
oh ty
i said mit lol
it's not cute at all he gets so loud and keeps purposely pushing himself onto me to try and make me lose my balance
ist es over fur mich
joever
yes
are you rusty
a bit
I love Rust for making functional programming concepts more accessible to newcorners
Pattern matching, ADTs, type classes
Declarativeness
!!!!!!!
i would give him headpats everyday and take good care of him
because maybe someone will abuse him if he screams or the cat tries to be aggressive, I don't trust anyone
i would put all my effort into taking good care of this cat even if it wanted to kill me
I need a new desktop wallpaper
i take care of him
he shits on my bed to thank me
he's been mean lately
my cat never shat on my stuff
biting and shit
it's just a mad cat
he won't appreciate what you do
it's better than leaving him in the street with those animals everywhere :(
I think the cat loves you very sure
mine only tries to bite me when i try to pet him when he's hungry
but he always fail
mine can't go in my room anymore because he keeps shitting on my bed and pissing on it
LMAO
mine only shits and pisses outside
he doesn't do that anywhere else in the house
he literally goes to the streets to shit and piss
and he has access to his litter box because when he's in my room I leave my door wide open
he knows he can leave
I have watched him leave multiple times before
he does it on purpose
what a mf
https://codeberg.org/arhsm/.dolfies/src/branch/master/walls.txt goated collection
also he screams to get food like his life depended on it and then he proceeds to eat 3 miligrams of it and gets back to lazing around on the couch
my big brother used to have a cat and she really loves me more than him
she used to only sleep with me every day
but sadly he gave it to someone who takes care of cats 
im my cat's favorite
i cannot count the times ive seen this on r/unixporn lol
im basically any animal's favorite
for some reason
always has been
i do not know why
shits on your bed 
i stole it from there lmfao
ill kill you
^
and then you realize it adds even more things to take care of than yourself
...or you'll get hyperfixated on it to the point that if it dies ur life loses its meaning
yerp
maybe if they werent forbidden
i would do my best to take care of the cat as if it's my child

only get a cat if you have a stable living situation
I found the stupidest crash in my app
for pixiv you need to set the referrer header to pixiv.net
a
we have spent genuine thousands on my cat
because when he goes outside he either starts fights (we have proof he's always the one starting it) but he can't fight for shit
or he jumps wrong and breaks his paws
so we have to spend like
300 bucks at the vet

this motherfucker has no survival instinct he almost died countless times
he got Typhus and lived which is very rare
then he got poisoned and lived
then he got sick again and lived
problem is that fucked some of his brain up so his movement isn't coordinated
forgot this could happen
also my cat pouts
well not literally but when he's mad at us he goes in a corner and faces the other way
and he complains
so true
how
pixiv so good
you can fetch the low res image from anywhere but you need a referer for the original
so true
i hate pixiv so much
nvm it's awesome!!
i feel like making a good ios and macos pixiv client
what the fuck bro
that's so cute π
@small bramble you domt use macod right
yeah i use nixos
idk what that is
linux distro
just imagine if zzz was an open world game
i would be super awesome, better than genshin 
i hate this world
nvm
:(
he's been doing the screaming since he was a baby don't worry about that
dry food
OH WAIT I THINK I KNOW WHY
omg cute
how old is he bro
i disagree with the comparison but agree that it would be epic if it were openworld
he has meds for fleas
fr
and he absolutely hates them
zzz fighting style is so amazing
genshin is just slow.. yk
if only it was an open world
I think that's just him puking them out
i like genshinβs fighting
i forgor but i know he's getting old
zzz is nice too

I don't, it's just repetitive
my navia does 150k
that's the highest i can do
i got her like a year ago
there was a test and i was just playing genshin pulling her while everyone was focusing on the test
and i got her
i didnt have enough wishes at the time
already got someone else right before her cant rember who
how did my phone get to 100%
thats what we tried to do but he smells it
so we just put it in his mouth and reward him with pΓ’tΓ©
LMAO
god I love pΓ’tΓ©
my folders don't have icons anymore, idk what's going on. I'm in pain
Wtf
better than my internet lmfao
3G+ network
every time
unhealthy
i use 2G whenever someone asks for my hotspot
so they think i have a bad internet 
chilling with 8.5 mo/s
normal
and to tell i had a 5Gpbs internet a year ago π
omg i hope you feel better bro
yeye
scary
i had to move lol
didn't had a choice
where i live rn there's NO internet at all
literally 0 ways to get internet
Morocco :
it doesn't exist
woah you enjoyed the first one?
did you find out about the dead eye
whar
They cut off the bottom
@sudden sun @edgy ermine apparency can now see if a bundle has been modified, very epic
@fallow pawn
oooo
hi silly
how does it know
macos somehow knows its been modified, maybe theres a private api for it
o
hi all
https://x.com/lukashozda/status/1869302820199182788 this canβt be real 
oh god βββββββββββββββββββββββββββββββββββββββββββββββββ
a good installer leaves no traces behind when uninstalling 
microsoft moment
true!
so true
oh sorry i got confused 
me too
i have dead eye irl.. but only when I'm using the bow on mc
Apparently it works on discord desktop too, because itβs electron
Yikes
No embeds
my switch has a cool theme
,,
@main wyvern hii
MacOS knows all
Kill
mid
they have like 3 different font styles going on inconsistently
@sudden sun haii
i think it's a basic live-time verification
GOODS

Or macos is just tracking the files
i think codesigning hashes all files maybe idk
or they actually utilize their file system and see "what" changed a specific file
this too
for example that line could be blank if it was manually done
but something like an updater could pass an argument alongside it
marking it official
ur acting like it's rocket science π
all linux package managers do this too
they just keep track of which files were created by installing a package
this isnβt a package tho
itβs just files in a bundle
that's the same thing
no
package, bundle, etc
(it's not)
nop
its deadass a folder with an extension on it that contains more files
no way
totally
everything is just a folder that contains more files bruh
packages have a manifest that tell you shit

just make a manifest for the folder it's not that deep
.app is the bundle contained inside a .dmg aka a macos package
or it's just a deep security scan that just checks if anything was altered in the system file
weβre not making it silly
we figuring out how macos does it
even simpler in nixos cause unlike stuff like deb packages where the tree structure in the deb is mapped to the fs to copy
in nixos everything is a symlink from the store so you dont even have to keep track of files just yeet from the store
also integrity scans are common aren't they..
step 1: when extracting the .dmg, note down which files were created
step 2: check which files were created in step 1
step 3: all files that weren't created in step 1 or have different size / hash have been modified
it's really not rocket science π
i tell mac os what happens
Because bundle resources influence app behavior (much like its code), they are βsealedβ by the component's code signature (again, like its code). If any of these resources are changed, macOS won't be able to verify the code signature, and may refuse to launch the app β typically with an alert about the app being βdamaged.β (Exactly how and when this occurs will vary with the version of macOS; Apple has definitely gotten more aggressive about these checks with each passing year.)
that's how
what's your obsession with "rocket science"
why do you keep comparing with it
wow rpmg has a crazy black magick security feature
dmgs are just disk images we mount, the user drags app into applications folder for ease of access
we were curious not desperate
which extracts the contents
icl this
the files are sealed once they're signed
its not a specialised process thats the thing
its just a disk image
mounts like any other removable storage
this is in direct contrast of software packages installed by a package manager
figure of speech
hiii
codesigning probably has this information
how lol
both extract files in an archive to your disk
this file in particular holds if the bundle has been modified pretty sure
.damage
if somethings wrong macos will think the bundle is damaged and cannot be opened
because a dmg doesnβt have to have an app its just a general purpose filesystem
app bundles are selfcontained
yes....
what are linux packages contained in
.rpm, .deb, .tar.*, it's all just archives
why do you pretend like apple packages are rocket science lmao
they're really nothing special
my word document in a dmg isnt gonna be given a manifest when i drag it onto my desktop
I will die one day and perhaps it may be by your hand or your constituents but my legacy will live on and even you can't strip that away
apps donβt work that way
damn
linux apps .flatpak extension
"my word document in a .deb isn't gonna have a binary when i extract it onto my desktop"
yes duh...
horror
why does everyone hate flatpak
idk what its about
the pak is flat
oh
???
same
idk what i dislike more flatpack or appimage
you're the one making no sense lmao
yes i have brain damage im ill
nor can i ever fifht an argument
i cant speak very well
I hate appimages
let me be
dummies I already explained how macos keeps track of modified contents
true
@fallow pawn
you will use ze appimages and you will like it
NOP
its after they're signed, theres a coderesources file created
if it doesnt match the coderesources file macos will think its damaged and modified
i.e. modifying it after being signed
do all apps have this
cause it sucks π
is it mandatory
bloated, slow and compared to flatpaks just inferior in basically everything possible if you don't wanna deal with packaging for every package manager
no
oki
vencordinstaller doesn't have it, because its not signed
though when signing I assume it is mandatory
because even adhoc signed applications contain coderesources
naturally there needs to be integrity checking with signing, otherwise it's pointless :P
so yes it's gonna be mandatory
only 82
noob
hoping my parents will buy me a Nintendo..
pro gamer tip... run xattr -c /path/to/app.app to make macos not gaf
pro gamer tip... switch to linux to make macos not gaf 
would not recommend
hi vee.. mein best friend..
can you.. add this emojis in case my nitro expires so i can use them anytime

pretty please!!
steam deck better
nuhhh

yop, sealed resources
macos is pretty based in general
we know now
trust
helloo
I did some digging into how it works
isn't it _CodeSignature/CodeResources
yes
btw @harsh minnow are you gonna try out the official steamos image when it gets a public installer
even if i give my parents the $400 to buy me steam deck
they'll come back with nothing 
Nintendo would be a 50/50 chance!!
@harsh minnow what if I tried nix on macos
i find it funny macos doesn't care if a bundle's been modified IF it was modified after verification
fr

aaa can't wait to go to europe for the first time
wdym
my mom made me watch like 3 yt videos on how to not get phone stolen in europe
u know how when you first download and launch an app a little alert pops up saying "Verifying xxx...."
then the gatekeeper message pops up
"xx was downloaded from the internet"
or something
if you modify the app after that message gatekeeper doesn't gaf
lmao
my mom would absolutely send me videos on buying stolen phones just to never make me buy a brand new phone 
HOWEVER if you modify the app prior to verification macOS will ban that app
until you approve it in System Settings
not even xattr -c works to fix it
fr
anyone not on the christmas tree that wants to be on here
im there
can you add kevin (genai)
he is part of our vencord family
didnt genai get banned
but he is still one of us
together we are VENCORD!! 
which
if an app has incorrect codesigning
me
when an app is launched gatekeeper will check for com.apple.quarantine
if that attr is set it will begin verification
first it will check if it has a signature
no signature? reject until user approves IF INTEL
If arm64 macOS kernel will reject it entirely
Sad I DONT GET TO BE THERE
just ask π
(arm64 binaries MUST be adhoc signed)
iirc macOS won't even let you run adhoc signed apps by default
i did not know this about arm
mainly because i havent been able to experiment iwth amrm
its where the sig is jist invalid
its expanding
if the app is meant to be codesigned
but has invalid sig
it is flagged as malware
i thibk
@edgy ermine is this true
macos never says anything is malware
this is false
huh
HEY!!!
add tessie @rough dome
sometimes it just says its malware and will not let you run
i thought it just says it can't verify it's free of malware
oh
huh
maybe a list of known hashes?
maybe



