🧊-off-topic-iceman-only

[mental oxide]

it's almost 1 PM and i just woke up

[fleet meteor]

i like stalking my friend's likes :(

[crude fern]

she has no eggs

[fleet meteor]

LMFAO

[lost furnace]

citzenship is "I live in this country, I call it my home, I was either born here, got married to someone from here or stayed here for long enough to become a citzen"

not

[fleet meteor]

it's almost 7 am and i have not slept

[lost furnace]

"I can travel to this many coutnries" or something

[static wolf]

What the fuck happened to rhytm bot btw

[crude fern]

shes making a LIVER PASTE SANDWICH.

[fleet meteor]

wdym?

[civic cairn]

That's the point

[lost furnace]

me fr

[indigo elk]

stakler

[mental oxide]

it still exists

[fleet meteor]

yes

[static wolf]

Shits wack

[crude fern]

[fleet meteor]

i love stalking my friends

lmfao

[lost furnace]

that's the point of passports

sob

[indigo elk]

@soft wadi thnaks for make vennie

it so coo

[lost furnace]

I have one of the top ten most powerful passports in the entire world

[indigo elk]

good night

rest well

[fleet meteor]

sho so cute :3

[lost furnace]

lmao

[deep token]

im lazy

[indigo elk]

true

[static wolf]

Passports are power ranked?

[crude fern]

what tbe fuck is liver paste

[fleet meteor]

which

[lost furnace]

I'm coughing like crazy here

[civic cairn]

Yeah and it's nice to be from 1st world/countries with nice allies to be able to gain travel access

[indigo elk]

[lost furnace]

australian passport

[fleet meteor]

https://www.henleyglobal.com/passport-index/ranking

first result i saw

[crude fern]

@light cedar

[fleet meteor]

united states at 6th

it's so over

[static wolf]

2nd place passport. Hell yeah

[mental oxide]

no way i'm 1st

italy ya :D

[deep token]

im 6th

yay :3

[fleet meteor]

it's by a very small amount

lmao

[lost furnace]

I can go to 190 countries without a visa

[crisp finch]

hi 1st

[indigo elk]

wiseman has a 1st ranking passport

[fleet meteor]

1st and 6th are separated by 5 different countries

[light cedar]

https://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leverpastej

[indigo elk]

better than all of you

!!

[fickle cosmos]

[lost furnace]

but when I get to the netherlands

[crude fern]

I DONT KNOW SWEEDISH

[fleet meteor]

the only country that's fine to live in that's at 1st is germany

lmfao

[lost furnace]

I'm gonna get a dutch passport

[static wolf]

[light cedar]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liver_pâté

[lost furnace]

or a german passport

either one

[static wolf]

Live pate is so fucking good

[fleet meteor]

HOW DOES THE UK HAVE A BETTER RANKING THAN THE US

[mental oxide]

poor girl, may i introduce you to the AfD?

[fleet meteor]

LMFAOOOOOOOO

[light cedar]

you get it

[fickle cosmos]

Chat do I troll griefers in GTA online

[crude fern]

gross

[static wolf]

Im swedish... Of course I do

[indigo elk]

its bvecause of the beans on toast

[unborn magnet]

Same :3

[mental oxide]

probably because the UK made your country.

[fleet meteor]

(taking a stab at how the brits have taken fucking everything from everywhere in the world)

[fleet meteor]

arguable tbh

[deep token]

@mental oxide do you ever

[crude fern]

THAT ISBT FOOD

[static wolf]

Was just about to guess where youre from but I guess your bio took care of that

[fleet meteor]

the brits did NOT want the US to be made

[lapis lava]

now im wondering if intellij IDEA was a play on IDE

[bronze nebula]

same bestiee

[mental oxide]

how

[fleet meteor]

it's a weird take to say the UK made the US

[deep token]

magic

[crude fern]

can i go to Sweden without a visa

[mental oxide]

what iOS version

[deep token]

16.5

[fleet meteor]

so good

[mental oxide]

does it work on 17.0

[indigo elk]

1234567890-=qwertyuiop[]asdfghjkl;'\zxcvbnm,./

[deep token]

it ain't mine it's my mom's phone lol

[deep token]

nuh uh

[civic cairn]

That's if you have a passport

[indigo elk]

thats so cute

[mental oxide]

it literally did though

[civic cairn]

[deep token]

i wouldn't say that if i didn't have one

[indigo elk]

svarog

[sudden fjord]

i have a passport since I was 4 or smth

[indigo elk]

meow

[civic cairn]

It's just because, it's known that a lot of Americans don't have passports

[mental oxide]

i don't have a passport yet

[fleet meteor]

that physically is not really possible though?

[static wolf]

If the visit only is a few weeks afaik you dont need one

[fleet meteor]

the UK did not want the US to become a thing

[crude fern]

@light cedar stop being sweedish

[sudden fjord]

because they never leave America, the entire world for them is just the USA

[fleet meteor]

also the UK made half the entire fucking world with that logic

lmfao

[mental oxide]

the UK went to american land, colonized it, and after a while y'all declared independence, the UK made your country.

[civic cairn]

doggolaugh

[sudden fjord]

the US has no knowledge about the rest of the world but feel the need to control them

[lost furnace]

I love how the time in new york is 6:52 rn so most americans aren't awake

[fleet meteor]

okay so the UK made half the entire world.
no.

[lost furnace]

^^^^

[fleet meteor]

LMAO REAL

[lost furnace]

very true

[indigo elk]

lol

[lost furnace]

sad but true

[fleet meteor]

unfortunately I do not have a passport

so sad

[civic cairn]

Nope, but some may work early

[last siren]

hi luna

[indigo elk]

jjjffjdl

[sudden fjord]

can’t you just request one

[mental oxide]

they were already existing countries, the American land was under no government

[last siren]

[indigo elk]

frog

[fleet meteor]

mmm

[last siren]

frog

[mental oxide]

bureaucracy takes its time

[fleet meteor]

not really no

idk akira that's an insane take

[fleet meteor]

because at that point, no country is it's own thing if you go far back enough

lmfao

[lost furnace]

I don't have a need for my passport

for the next

[sudden fjord]

i mean idk how long it takes here to request one, but renewal takes like half an hour

[lost furnace]

at least 4 years

[mental oxide]

wdym take it's written in history books 😭

[fleet meteor]

???

the UK didn't "make" the US

that's just not how that works

[sudden fjord]

the US is in india

[indigo elk]

beepboop

[mental oxide]

anyways look at my wife

[civic cairn]

That's what they thought 😂

[fleet meteor]

true...

[sudden fjord]

yeah that’s why i’m saying

[crude fern]

thats a image

[civic cairn]

You're American

[fleet meteor]

okay?

lmfao

[civic cairn]

[indigo elk]

why is your wife a jellyfish

[fleet meteor]

i don't see your point

[lapis lava]

didnt know limit existed

[sudden fjord]

the average americans are so stupid (not saying you are)

[fleet meteor]

IT DOES?

INSANE

[fleet meteor]

duh

it's abysmal

[sudden fjord]

isn’t it 25 or smth

[lost furnace]

most really are

like

[deep token]

hiiiii

[lost furnace]

it's sad

[civic cairn]

Basically AkkoShrug

[lapis lava]

The Power Of Teams

[indigo elk]

Wxplode

[fleet meteor]

LMFAO

INSANE

[indigo elk]

Explode

[lost furnace]

team Explode

that's my team right there

🗣️

[last siren]

I'm not sure if I remember right but did you update to iOS 18? I think I already asked before

[civic cairn]

She's beautiful

[deep token]

i did yeah

[last siren]

noooo

:(

[fleet meteor]

ew it's you

go away

[deep token]

hey be nice

[fleet meteor]

nop

[deep token]

and you @last siren be nice to nemmy

or else

i be not nice to you

[sudden fjord]

iOS 18 in a nutshell

[last siren]

I'm always nice

[edgy ermine]

lunar

[indigo elk]

frog

[deep token]

haiiii

[fleet meteor]

they were brain damaged and made a reddit post about me on r/discordapp by being entitled

[edgy ermine]

meow

[civic cairn]

😭

[crisp finch]

hi always nice

[last siren]

hi

[soft wadi]

meaow

[last siren]

nemmy it's a reddit post

[sudden fjord]

meow

[fleet meteor]

yeah it was brain damaged

[indigo elk]

vennie's monm

[fleet meteor]

why do you use reddit

[soft wadi]

helliuu

[last siren]

the post or the comments?

[indigo elk]

hallo

[last siren]

you literally have a reddit account

[fleet meteor]

both

[deep token]

hai :3

[sudden fjord]

haii

[fleet meteor]

having a reddit account is NOT the same as using reddit

[crude fern]

hi sho!

[fleet meteor]

[last siren]

I even blurred your name out of courtesy

[soft wadi]

hawoo

[edgy ermine]

hai sho

[last siren]

relax! :D

[civic cairn]

Show me the post

[static wolf]

Is there like a majority of where people in this server are from?

[indigo elk]

wisemna has had a reddit acc since 2016 and had like 2 posts in total

[indigo elk]

waht

[sudden fjord]

my basement

[static wolf]

Im just curious

😭

[indigo elk]

nino's basement

[civic cairn]

https://tenor.com/view/alex-mac-southpark-durr-gif-12595556

[crisp finch]

hi just curious

[indigo elk]

not sure what you meant

[fleet meteor]

date difference is insane

[static wolf]

Sounds about right

[static wolf]

:(

[crisp finch]

:3

[static wolf]

Blocked

[sudden fjord]

you’re all my little kiddies

[crisp finch]

oke

cya

[static wolf]

😭

[fleet meteor]

mommy..

[indigo elk]

like country?

[static wolf]

Yeha

[indigo elk]

wm french living in uk

[static wolf]

Well I guess continent would do

[unreal siren]

Probably earth

[indigo elk]

worst combination

[static wolf]

2 real

[static wolf]

Whats so bad about the uk?

[indigo elk]

it exists

[civic cairn]

Do a poll @static wolf

[last siren]

@deep token anyways how's iOS 18 since you updated

[static wolf]

I aint gonna put in the effort to do that

[last siren]

[civic cairn]

https://tenor.com/view/howdy-cowboy-vector-gif-5544146

[sudden fjord]

i’m another luna but it’s meh

[lapis lava]

@glossy swallow Java Swing invaded intellij

[last siren]

I heard it's a little stuttery

[glossy swallow]

[indigo elk]

all lunas are the same people
thye are just a hive mind

[glossy swallow]

i think intellij uses swing

[last siren]

but not terrible

[static wolf]

I guess you have a point

[last siren]

some good changes

[glossy swallow]

it just themes metal away

[sudden fjord]

yes

[last siren]

@sudden fjord have you tried the car motion sickness feature?

[indigo elk]

why does it feel like luna is the most cmmon female name

wm knows so many lunas

[sudden fjord]

uh no but I can later, how would you enable it?

[lapis lava]

?remind 15m change project name

[river thunder]

Alright @lapis lava, in 15 minutes: change project name

[civic cairn]

Nordics can be so lazy

[crisp finch]

many people here are trans

[last siren]

maybe on the internet

not in real life

💀

[sudden fjord]

I don’t get motion sickness in cars that often so idk if it actually works

[indigo elk]

myhabe

maybe

[static wolf]

Theres 3million Marys

[lapis lava]

vencord is land of trans catgirls

[sudden fjord]

and non trans cat girls

[glossy swallow]

it's the goto transfem name

[last siren]

try sitting in the backseat while looking down on your phone

[glossy swallow]

[crisp finch]

you say it like i don't know it

[lapis lava]

insane

[deep token]

its alright i guess

[sudden fjord]

uh I drive

[indigo elk]

heaven?!??

[oak forge]

vencord more like wokecord

[last siren]

are you never a passenger

good for you

[sudden fjord]

idk never really

i’m alone lol

[crude fern]

hi

[static wolf]

Driving is fun

[crisp finch]

hi :3

[sudden fjord]

if you buy me a tesla with fsd I can try it out

[crisp finch]

meow :3

[civic cairn]

It is

[crude fern]

[indigo elk]

boop beep

[static wolf]

Will fsd even become an actual thing around the world?

[sudden fjord]

idk lol

I usually take trains

[fleet meteor]

you can get fsd for basically any car

made by the funny apple jailbreak guy (the original guy to jailbreak their phone)

[crude fern]

why is there so many transfems online but so few irl?

[sudden fjord]

trains are the best form of transportation

[static wolf]

Well its not only that it isnt avalible

Shit must make car rides so much more boring

[last siren]

basically any car = not basically any car

[waxen sphinx]

hiding

[static wolf]

Unless you get into the van with all the methheads

[civic cairn]

Teslas are the worst cars, I can only imagine how much worse it'll be on fsd

[fleet meteor]

https://comma.ai/ so good

[crude fern]

[last siren]

yeah comma ai

[static wolf]

No shot you just said this? 😭

[sudden fjord]

I drove all teslas, they’re ok

[last siren]

not really every car or close to that

[crude fern]

whyyyy

[indigo elk]

a lot of trans people online seem to be closet

[civic cairn]

Yeah

[fleet meteor]

you're retarded

i don't mean it literally

[waxen sphinx]

comma ai more like "i will be in a COMA because of driving with an AI"

[crude fern]

buh

[fleet meteor]

false

[waxen sphinx]

xd

[last siren]

something I didn't already know

[crude fern]

how comnon are trans ppl statisticallt

[fleet meteor]

AI "drivers" are much safer

[civic cairn]

Self-pilot is unreliable, idk any other reasons why people get into accidents with them

[indigo elk]

rude transphobic people

[static wolf]

Im just gonna code my own self driving ai in java and then just integrate it into my cars firmware :D

[last siren]

nemmy do you even drive

[waxen sphinx]

as long as its not a tesla

[fleet meteor]

well
proper AI drivers

not the ones with cameras

[indigo elk]

...ai driver?

waht

[static wolf]

CAUSE I DRIVE A FUCKING SAAB RAHHHHHHHH

[fleet meteor]

my brain forgot "self driving car"

[sudden fjord]

it only works okeyish on the autobahn but even there it’s sometimes flaky

[indigo elk]

wtf is an ai driver

oh

[waxen sphinx]

https://tenor.com/view/hello-kitty-hello-kitty-car-sanrio-gif-15070832531011833004

my car

[indigo elk]

deadass thought chatgpt driving the car somehow

[fleet meteor]

THESE self driving cars are much safer

lmfao

[static wolf]

I can imagine in the future people are gonna work from home as a uber driver through like remote control

[light cedar]

that looks like a cop

[last siren]

@fleet meteor you don't even have a license nemmy.. 😕

[fleet meteor]

???

that doesn't matter?

[indigo elk]

waymo

[static wolf]

If I see this in publick im slashing its tires

[civic cairn]

Yeah, I think that's why the accident rate is high

[last siren]

it kinda does

[fleet meteor]

you don't need to have a license to know that the entire reason car crashes happen is because of human error

[waxen sphinx]

i mean i think for legal reasons it does cuz if you have to takeover someone needs to sit at the wheel with a license

[sudden fjord]

to be fair I never had the fsd i think, just the normal stuff

[fleet meteor]

your argument is not relevant because that's not what we're talking about

[indigo elk]

ejkfdrzgjkbfsgfjbfsdzgfhjkbfszgsjfsdzgjnfsdzgjnfsdzgsjnfzg

[light cedar]

cars suck

[fleet meteor]

we're talking about the safety of self driving cars vs human driven cars

[light cedar]

public transport better

[static wolf]

Fsd is gonna be expensive anyway so noone is gonna use it

[indigo elk]

whats fsd

[static wolf]

Skånetrafiken

[fleet meteor]

full self driving

[light cedar]

full self driving

[indigo elk]

o

[waxen sphinx]

real

all of them

[civic cairn]

Ah I see, other than that, I agree teslas are roomy with nice interior

[light cedar]

Jönköpings Länstrafik

[fleet meteor]

like having a license has no relevance to knowing this and recognizing this

[static wolf]

DRiving a tesla feels like fucking spaceship

[fleet meteor]

computers can process MUCH more information at once than any human ever will

and car crashes tend to happen due to a lack of information

[sudden fjord]

well they’re big, pain in European cities

[last siren]

ok but how can you say comma.ai is good if you've never used it.. it can't do rural roads and it's only really useful on highways

[static wolf]

Too close to borås

[fleet meteor]

i wasn't saying it was good

[last siren]

you said so good

[fleet meteor]

?

yes

as in

[indigo elk]

seqsdaasdreawRwe reww

[fleet meteor]

"look at this"

dumbass

christ

[last siren]

you're right nemmy

[civic cairn]

Tbh I agree, don't get a drivers license-there are too much cars. But people are already shit drivers, I wouldn't trust a robot to drive me.

[light cedar]

nemmy being mean as usual

[indigo elk]

i trust a robot more thanmyself

[fleet meteor]

i'd trust a robot taxi over an uber 100% of the time

[civic cairn]

Oh yeah true, the streets are too narrow for it.

[fleet meteor]

there's none where i live though

[static wolf]

If you live in a major city you dont need a drivers license. If you live outside of city get a fucking drivers license. Simple

[waxen sphinx]

$current_day robots i wouldn't trust either especially if it's coming from companies like tesla that dont give a fuck about safety

[indigo elk]

robot taxi sounds meta asf

[light cedar]

what if the robot becomes sentient and tries to overthrow humanity

[fleet meteor]

not how that works

[indigo elk]

based

[light cedar]

it is actually I saw it in terminator

[static wolf]

Then we pray that Will Smith is alive

[indigo elk]

i wish i was a sentient robot

[fleet meteor]

i'm gonna eat you >:c

[light cedar]

vore

[sudden fjord]

yeah, I personally drive a pretty small car which idk is like 10 years old, it works fine for me and I can get anywhere - if I can I obviously take a train because I only pay 80€ a year to have access to whole east austria

[indigo elk]

eat wm

[cloud plover]

Oop-

[civic cairn]

I would never do that, the profit comes from money and transportation. Humans aren't valued enough more than money itself.

[waxen sphinx]

depends... some people have no other choice but to drive to their place of work for example even if living in a major city

[fleet meteor]

what?

[static wolf]

Some jobs also do require a drivers license. My point was dumbed down to say the least

[civic cairn]

Yes exactly LMAO and the safety rate of tesla is high + the rate of accidents

[static wolf]

All I know is if I dont have a drivers license I am not getting a jovb

[fleet meteor]

how

robot are objectively safer

[civic cairn]

https://tenor.com/view/peach-and-goma-sleep-gif-24896218

[fleet meteor]

not tesla fsd

that uses cameras

i can understand that

but proper self driving cars are objectively safer

(tbf cameras are too but they're not as good)

[sudden fjord]

trains will always be better

[civic cairn]

And other cars don't use cameras?

[fleet meteor]

there's no trains in america really

it sucks

[static wolf]

Can you say it louder for the americans in the back?

[fleet meteor]

lidar typically

cameras too

among other info iirc?

[civic cairn]

True, but they only work linearly

[light cedar]

the normal sensors

accelorometer, gyroscope, etc

[fleet meteor]

yeah that stuff too

[civic cairn]

I'm sure they also use cameras, from what it looks like the top of the car

[light cedar]

thermostat

[fleet meteor]

no.

[last siren]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9M1q7FPYE4w

[fleet meteor]

i'm just using waymo as an example because it's the first image that popped up

lmfao

i haven't looked into specific companies

[static wolf]

All I know is that if AI touches my gosh darn rally imma be pissed

[fleet meteor]

human drivers cause MANY MORE CRASHES than self driving cars ever will

this is NOT arguable

[last siren]

how many self driving cars are on the road

[fleet meteor]

that's not how statistics work void

[cloud plover]

Was jst abt to say that lol

[river thunder]

@lapis lava, <t:1718449320:R>: change project name

[sudden fjord]

americans wouldn’t get it either way because VROM VROM IS COOL

[light cedar]

self driving hummer

https://tenor.com/view/hummer-car-wheels-yellow-gif-12588457

[open pasture]

This is pretty accurate

[fleet meteor]

i can't with this

[waxen sphinx]

germans are even worse

[static wolf]

I mean to be fair... Vrom Vrom is cool

[fleet meteor]

void is too retarded to understand

someone lmk when void is not in chat

[sudden fjord]

yeah I know

[fleet meteor]

i may sleep though idk

[quiet glen]

Even if you are a "safe" driver by relying on a computer to drive it, you're not safe from other human drivers around you on public roads

[fleet meteor]

yeah

[sudden fjord]

but killing the planet (and us humans), causing many accidents, making cities louder and all isn’t cool

[sly spear]

Does anyone have that one vesktop icon

Vennie

[open pasture]

Cute

[waxen sphinx]

bring back horse-drawn carriages

[lapis lava]

[deep token]

need

[static wolf]

No matter how much I want to criticize people for polluting I cant say anything. I don't have a catalytic converter on my car

[cloud plover]

Samee

[fleet meteor]

people always link shit that have no videos attached
just saying that it would help support your argument a lot more if there was (showing that it wasn't human error which is very likely)

saying this generally btw lmfao

[civic cairn]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hA_-MkU0Nfw

Not an argument

[cloud plover]

Isnt that illegal to drive in most places?

[civic cairn]

But it has senses and cameras

[static wolf]

Oh yeah its super illegal over here in sweden

[cloud plover]

Bap

[static wolf]

But nothing can stop me from straight piping a turbo V6 🤤

[last siren]

[fleet meteor]

also it literally does not matter because humans will never give up driving
at least not ANYTIME soon

[static wolf]

:(

It sounds cool

[fleet meteor]

doesn't matter how safe it is

[last siren]

@deep token I'll be making coffee muffins next week

[civic cairn]

I can watch more regarding this and there are so many sides to the argument, but my belief is self-driving cars aren't safe-tesla is proof of that

[last siren]

@deep token do you want me to share picture

[fleet meteor]

TESLA IS NOT WHAT YOU SHOULD LOOK AT

[cloud plover]

=-=
If i ever make progress on my research on hydrogen powered engines not using that stupid gel stuff will u atleast switch to that then so u dont have to even wprry abt a carb?
/hj

[static wolf]

[civic cairn]

I'd need statistical data of waymo being safe to see if it's good-since it's release

[cloud plover]

Is that a no then TvT

Le sigh

[fleet meteor]

hard to provide data like that

it's very evident if you just know how humans are

[static wolf]

if you can get a hydrogen engine in a saab I might

[fleet meteor]

humans are much less efficient than machines and you can't really beat that

[open pasture]

Nice pfp btw

[civic cairn]

AkkoShrug

[cloud plover]

Youll just need to wait till i have the money to continue my research lol but i can try

[cloud plover]

Thanku :3

[open pasture]

Np :3

[static wolf]

Best of luck then

[fleet meteor]

idk how you physically are capable of thinking humans can genuinely drive better than a machine

• shit is still early

[cloud plover]

Yey

[civic cairn]

That's also why

[dense aspen]

<@&1237381028662874123>ending.machine in your latest message in #1222936386626129920 the hyperlink on "this" says "this is content no longer available", can ya fix that?
#1222936386626129920 message

[quiet glen]

Problem is humans invent things out of convenience which builds up this reliance. All this self-driving cars and such relies on GPS, which did cause a bit of a stir when there were news about armed satellites in orbit. Imagine a few of those gets knocked-out and the repercussions the effect of that has

[static wolf]

Drive in traffic no, I would love to see a ai try to race against some humans in Rally though. Wonder if its any different there

[void ivy]

self driving cars only truly work perfectly if everyone else is also self driving

which will never happen

[fleet meteor]

not really no

self driving cars can react much quicker

[dense aspen]

Not to mention that anything can happen on a road

[void ivy]

if you want perfect self driving they need to be able to talk to each other

[cloud plover]

My only real concern is the worry of what if a full self driving car gets hacked in some way
Knowing greedy companies nowadays some will prolly have some kinda stupid subscription service like i think bmw was trying to do meaning all of the cars would be connected to a network, so how long would it be till someone decides to kill several ppl by finding a way to gain control of other people's vehicles

[void ivy]

and that can only happen if the other cars around them are also self driving

[fleet meteor]

this is

not true

[void ivy]

well it is, there's papers on it

there's also papers on trying to allow self driving cars to control intersections

so there needs to be a significant amount of them to get that to work

[fleet meteor]

it's not

lmfao

[dense aspen]

Reminds me of an article that states that Chinese EVs locks people inside if they doesn't pay their car monthly payments in time 😭

[void ivy]

if they cant talk to each other then they have to be able to see each other, in which case fine! but that doesnt mean that they know what each other car is going to do

[fleet meteor]

SO GOOD

[cloud plover]

Oop

[fleet meteor]

WE LOVE CHINA

[fleet meteor]

are you dumb

how would a human driver know then?

[dense aspen]

Horror

[void ivy]

they dont thats the point

self driving cars can have the ability to communicate with each other

and then organise things in a group

a human driver could not

[fleet meteor]

but they don't need that ability to be better than humans

lmfao

[dense aspen]

Good to have in terms of driving

[void ivy]

they need the ability for efficiency and to not do guesswork on what each other is going to do

[cloud plover]

Yet you said that human drivers arnt safe so youre going against youre own words here

[fleet meteor]

?

[dense aspen]

Everything is a probability:3

[crude fern]

wait

[fleet meteor]

that doesn't contradict that point

human drivers are NOT safe

[sly spear]

Guys i have a solution

[smoky girder]

interesting convo

[crude fern]

there is states in the USA that you cant change your gender in????

[void ivy]

okay here's a point

[sly spear]

Test drive the ai cars in america so no valuble thigns are lost

[fleet meteor]

braking :oooooooooooooo !!!!

[civic cairn]

Chat what's the answer to this

[void ivy]

i nearly got killed by a self-driving feature in a car

[fleet meteor]

yes?

[smoky girder]

which ones i'm moving now

[void ivy]

that literally hallucinated it was going to crash into something

[dense aspen]

Looks like top view of a bowling alley 😭

[fleet meteor]

wait wait wait

hold on

[crude fern]

WHAT

[fleet meteor]

are you talking about tesla or some shit thing like that?

[civic cairn]

Omg 💀

[crude fern]

WAIT FR????

[void ivy]

no

[fleet meteor]

then what?

[indigo elk]

meow

[crude fern]

I THOUGHT YOU COULD IN EVERY STATE WHAT??????

[dense aspen]

Tesla or...?

[fleet meteor]

because i guarantee you this was not the type of self driving car i'm talking about

[void ivy]

probably not, it's what they call the self-driving object avoidance system

or some crap like that

[nocturne bough]

is there even usable self driving thing other than tesla

[void ivy]

in a VW, if you have that on, it will take action on your behalf to avoid objects that it thinks is best

[dense aspen]

Ok, technically, it's good in a way... They don't consider humans as objects

[lost furnace]

I still don't know if this is better than the deep dark

[nocturne bough]

thats kinda bad tbh

[fleet meteor]

comma.ai
but i'm not talking about stuff like that either

[void ivy]

it counts humans

[fleet meteor]

yeah i'm not talking about shit like that

[dense aspen]

Well damn

[void ivy]

it swerved extremely to dodge a nonexistent object whilst going at motorway speeds and nearly threw us into another car that it couldnt see

[indigo elk]

can ihave a hug

[dense aspen]

Horror

[indigo elk]

what is that music disc

[fleet meteor]

again this is not a proper self driving car

[static wolf]

But if a self driving car has to make decisions when its ABOUT to crash that shits stupid? Its crashing nonetheless

[void ivy]

yes but it still FORCEFULLY

took control

[dense aspen]

https://media.discordapp.net/stickers/1228941553238675488.png?size=160

[void ivy]

and started driving itself

[indigo elk]

thnaks

[sly spear]

Fucking carjacked by chatgpt

[void ivy]

it doesnt matter if its proper or not, it drove itself to swerve

[fleet meteor]

i get what you mean

[void ivy]

that's god damn terrifying

[summer bluff]

@shadow owl how to use this fella

[civic cairn]

That reminds me of the drones that killed people

[static wolf]

😭

[fleet meteor]

you mean the US government?

[void ivy]

and yes im now going to be permanently skeptical that self driving cars cant work properly unless they talk to each other

[fleet meteor]

lewi please don't be this naive

[nocturne bough]

I wouldnt trust a AI on a car either

[void ivy]

im going to be god damn naive because i almost died

[nocturne bough]

they are usable in stuff like subways but other than that

nop, at least not yet

[static wolf]

Im just not gonna get into a self driving car cause I like driving

[dense aspen]

I wonder if it's even possible or legal to put progressive AI models in EVs rather than using these complex algorithms for self driving

[fleet meteor]

i'm gonna leave because the lack of knowledge here is genuinely upsetting me mentally

[light cedar]

what ps4 game should I play

[fleet meteor]

i am not stable enough to not lose my shit

lmfao

[sly spear]

What do you mean naive 😭 it's pretty damn near impossible to create a safe self driving car, especially without a network/communication system

[civic cairn]

You're not naive, you're protecting yourself

[fleet meteor]

it's not...

[void ivy]

if it cant see certain things or can randomly hallucinate (hell i've even seen teslas and other cars hallucinate) then god no im not touching self driving

[fleet meteor]

please do some research :c

[dense aspen]

I never even saw a EV in person and just saw them on pics so yep.

[fleet meteor]

TESLAS ARE NOT GOOD SELF DRIVING CARS

[void ivy]

i said other brands

please do not focus in on tesla

[static wolf]

Bloodborne

[civic cairn]

Teslas can see ghosts

[fleet meteor]

none of the car brands that you buy are good.

[sick helm]

i mean you can theoretically make a safe self driving car

[void ivy]

well then this entire thing goes out of the window!

[light cedar]

not that

[void ivy]

there's not a single self driving car that's actually safe!

[light cedar]

something casual

[dense aspen]

Tesla, in comparison to other self driving EVs, isn't that bad either

[fleet meteor]

no it does not!!!!!!

[static wolf]

[fleet meteor]

NO!!!

[static wolf]

Minecraft

[light cedar]

something casual with a story

[static wolf]

Everything can work in thoery, Not everything can work in practicve

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[fleet meteor]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hA_-MkU0Nfw companies like this

[nocturne bough]

panda might get killed by self driving car one day

[sick helm]

getting humans to trust it is a whole fight that elon fucked up

[static wolf]

Ratchet and clank

[cloud plover]

You do realize you will most likely be dead by the time self driving cars are even near safe enough that the points you are making stand, at the end of the day it is still code and it is still a hunk of metal moving at speeds no living thing on earth can it can and WILL fail, alot.
It will be a long long time until full self driving will ever be a viable option on the road there are countless things that could go wrong

[fleet meteor]

i will always trust a proper self driving car over ANY human.

[fleet meteor]

okay no

that's untrue

[light cedar]

other than that

[void ivy]

i read a thing about waymo having to recall their software because it literally crashed the other day

so

[light cedar]

more story

[void ivy]

not really a shining example

[sick helm]

you're with the robots??

[crude fern]

WHAT

[nocturne bough]

this is just fancy adveristment

[civic cairn]

We can't even trust each other, why should we?

[fleet meteor]

i'm leaving i'm about to lose my shit
talk later chat

[cloud plover]

Send me something to prove what i said is untrue than please :3

[last siren]

@cloud plover nemmy's always right

[fleet meteor]

oh my god

[static wolf]

BIG BLOCK V8 DIESEL MACHINE CONSTANTLY RUINING THE ECOSYSTEM 🇸🇪 🫎

[quiet glen]

I'd much prefer cars that has a functional steering wheel, pedal, gearbox and all. Without all of that, it's more like being chauffeured to places instead of driving

[crude fern]

WHAT THE FUCK

[cloud plover]

Apparently they think so

Hates being wrong huh

[static wolf]

The last guardian? 😭

[dense aspen]

Not sure if people around the car wants dozens of cameras and sensors capturing everything around the car like that. That also looks pretty intimidating

[crude fern]

THERE ARE STATES THAT REQUIRE SRS FOR IT??????

[fleet meteor]

no it's not that it's that objectively it's incorrect

[crude fern]

NO WAY

[civic cairn]

💀

[last siren]

factually always right (the facts in question: )

[fleet meteor]

yes i know what this is about

[dense aspen]

mya

[fleet meteor]

can you shut the fuck up holy fuck

[last siren]

the bait worked yipeee

[fleet meteor]

christ

[crude fern]

I THOUGHT THAT WAS THE SHIT THEY DO IN LIKE THE MIDDLE EAST

[cloud plover]

Than please prove me wrong if you are so strongly saying what i said is wrong

[crude fern]

WHAT?????????

[fleet meteor]

k(iss)ys

[light cedar]

wait until you hear about the human crashes

[dense aspen]

@last siren can U send my void car pic in here for me pls

[last siren]

very mature and original

[nocturne bough]

wait until you learn 99.9% of the cars are driven by humans

[crude fern]

[last siren]

sure

dm me

[light cedar]

wait until you hear about per capita statistics

[static wolf]

Just make getting a drivers license harder?

[sly spear]

Things heating up in the self driving car community

[static wolf]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[nocturne bough]

also there is lots of difference between beginner and experienced drivers

[cloud plover]

I also find it funny nemmy never wanted to say anything about my thoughts on them being hacked

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[nocturne bough]

just like I wouldnt trust a beginneer to go over 100km/h I wouldnt trust ai

but I geniunely think a experienced sane driver would be always superior to AI

[civic cairn]

Nemmy was hacked?

[noble quest]

Hiii chat
gm

[sly spear]

I think they mean the self driving cars being hacked

[civic cairn]

Pretty much

[static wolf]

I fucking love minecraft

[cloud plover]

No, my thoughts on full self driving cars potentially getting hacked

[light cedar]

I hacked nemmy

[civic cairn]

Oh

[sick helm]

i'd trust an uber with a bloody knife on his seat over an unmanned vehicle

[sly spear]

Greetings mr hole

[light cedar]

what

[sly spear]

THGATS HIS USERNAME

DON'T TAKE IT OUT OF CONTEXT

[dense aspen]

Morning

[civic cairn]

Yes that's also possible and a thought I had in mind

[sly spear]

😭

[noble quest]

😭

[void ivy]

i think its a combo of my own experience and general skepicism that has made me sworn off self driving, i genuinely trust the human to drive me safely somewhere than even a driving assistance system anymore

[civic cairn]

Lmao

[indigo elk]

mr hole

[void ivy]

unless the cars can actually talk to each other, communicate what they're doing, and deal with things in a safe manner together i dont see how a self driving system can be safe

[noble quest]

Not anymore, I've been changing it

[indigo elk]

thnaks

[last siren]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1251501238894460970/1251501333698056404/cat-cats.gif?ex=666ecef1&is=666d7d71&hm=a00b4bcaf714ddad578fbe3f074ed614ce62e55cd8ea363823437d953c25e01b& (from @dense aspen )

the void is watching

[unique wyvern]

good morning char

[dense aspen]

Imagine a network of cars dynamically connecting to each other when being somewhat near to work nicely

[cloud plover]

Like i was saying with how companies are you know greedy companies will put some kinda subscription service for something and if its in the code it wouldn't be hard for someone to find a way in and hack the cars in some way if theyre connected to a network

[void ivy]

yes im going to bring up tesla again, but its unfair not to because it is the most prominent system out there right now, if a tesla's self driving system panics or errors it reverts immediately back to human control without any warning and expects you to take over instantly

that's not safe

[sick helm]

even then, the 0.01% downtime machines may deal with means EVERYTHING when communicating between each other

[sly spear]

It's also a huge point that a self driving car would need to reason well in specific situations

[static wolf]

Shadow the hedgehog is just so cool... nobody designs character that cool anymore. Why? Because they're afraid. A bunch of nerds with reddit accounts decided Shadow wasn't cool and everybody believed them. Nerds dont know anything about cool. Shadow is cool as fuck

[last siren]

@cloud plover lol she blocked me

[unique wyvern]

the "without any warning" part is not exactly true

it plays a ding or some kind of sound to indicate it's switching to human control

[last siren]

I didn't even say nothing

[unique wyvern]

congrats

[last siren]

[sick helm]

personally i don't believe we should be releasing this beta ass software before it's actually self-driving

[dense aspen]

That's practical though. I'd want to take control immediately

[cloud plover]

Lmao
She rlly just hates being wrong huh

[void ivy]

huh, from my understanding it switches as soon as the alert sound starts so you dont have a lot of time to react to any situation it might've thrown itself in

[cloud plover]

Wronv reply lol

[nocturne bough]

even if it is, you have to always be concentrated to road, which defeats the point of self driving imo

[void ivy]

i mean yeah but if it puts itself into something dangerous then you're screwed

[cloud plover]

Meant to reply to @last siren

[void ivy]

yeah, downtime isnt an option

[sly spear]

Solution, can we just not put our lives in the hands of ai more than we need to

[dense aspen]

Yea that's the risk of self driving lol

[void ivy]

if it even fails to communicate properly for a split second it basically compromises the whole thing

[civic cairn]

Yeah, I read that the future won't be as free , it really sucks, I think its because people fall for subscription services. BMW cars are known for having subscriptions, which is so ridiculous. Either way subscription or not, if it runs electronically (esp fsd, it's hackable)

[cloud plover]

Uhgggggggggg linux being slowwwwwww
I have 3% left on the downloaddd just gimmeee

[last siren]

it's hard to even have a discussion with panda because she always calls you retarded no matter what you say @cloud plover

😭

[sudden fjord]

lol you still talking about fsd

[sick helm]

this ai shit is nothing but snake oil

[cloud plover]

Mhm

[civic cairn]

We're just discussing

[last siren]

I thought it was over when I checked the channel a few minutes ago

but nope

[unique wyvern]

idk i don't have a tesla, i'm just looking from a logical standpoint that there is usually a warning before switching to human control, idk how you're supposed to react in time though, not like the tesla can see the future before it experiences a crash

[sudden fjord]

yeah same

[void ivy]

i want ai to do my laundry and taxes so i can be creative, not launch itself into the nearest flatbed

[sudden fjord]

noticed

[cloud plover]

Hate ppl like that, no one is right unless its them

[static wolf]

ALRIGHT BEST MUSIC GENRE, GO

[unique wyvern]

ai is fine where it is now, to help in math, to be your online assistant or to do the math for you, you shouldn't rely on it with your life though (in cars)

[sly spear]

Midwest emo or hip hop

[civic cairn]

I just want it to cook for me and clean

[cloud plover]

EXTRATONE

[civic cairn]

I can do my laundry

[static wolf]

Midwest emo is FUCKING LIT

[static wolf]

I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT THAT IS BUT IT SOUNDS COOL

[sudden fjord]

i’ll stay with my opinion that cars are fucking inefficient no matter how much automation and fsd you put into them - ignoring the dangers

[sly spear]

We gettin married bruh

[void ivy]

yeah it plays an alert tone and goes like "PLEASE TAKE OVER NOW" but the amount of time you have to react might be way too little before something bad happens

also they can kind of predict the future, if you've ever seen the videos of it stopping and freaking out before a crash occurs

[dense aspen]

Next day you watch your tax write-off notices and realise your AI had been doing tax fraud for you to save money as a surprise gift:3

[void ivy]

but its not always accurate

[static wolf]

Im cool with that, As long as safe in your skin is the walkout song

[civic cairn]

Hey chat, which would you choose?

[void ivy]

the brakes

[cloud plover]

THINK PUMP THIS SONG WITH AS MANY BPMS AS POSSIBLE
(had one inwas listening to that was in the 2mil bpm range, vry nice)

[civic cairn]

I had to repost srry

It's like the train dilemma

[static wolf]

Sounds cool asf though 2 million bpm would make it a flat note

[sly spear]

Oh fuck yeah

https://tenor.com/view/credit-card-smacking-credit-card-on-table-gif-21340324

[void ivy]

oh wait this is the

[light cedar]

both

[void ivy]

you have no brakes dilemma isnt it

[quiet glen]

The topic of self-driving cars aren't that much different from that other topic about restricting end-user's ability to cause havoc on their OS. It's purely a matter of personal interest, and as a car nut myself, I don't have a huge vested interest in owning self-driven cars. At that point I may as well go get a taxi or catch a ride on any other mass commuting systems instead

[static wolf]

[unique wyvern]

yeah because it's got cameras, motion sensors, and a lot of technology depending on being able to see if the object in front of you (or behind you) is getting much closer than it should've

[cloud plover]

Just because the song is 2mil bpm doesnt mean there a note on every beat lol

[civic cairn]

You're chaotic

[sudden fjord]

kill the ppl and the drivers

[civic cairn]

Or it can't stop in time

[nocturne bough]

I would hit the horn so that people would escape

happy ending

[unique wyvern]

i'd probably pick a tesla if i had enough money for it, it's a cool car and the ecosystem is nice.

as of right now, an old mercedes is all i need.

[jaunty trellis]

drift so that you hit both the pedestrians and the road block head on 🔥

[civic cairn]

Smart

[static wolf]

True but with the ammount of beats is seems unnesecary no?

[nocturne bough]

or just drive straight to left and slow down with guard rails

[lost furnace]

I wonder how this occurred

[cloud plover]

Meh i like it lol

[civic cairn]

Chaotic

[static wolf]

Shit broke still floating

[static wolf]

I can see an appeal

High bpm is allways fun

[civic cairn]

Wait I didn't read this

[sudden fjord]

it’s not a dilemma if all die

[cloud plover]

Most extratone is more in the 10,000 to 100,000 bpm range tho not that high usually

[void ivy]

simply just turn around

:^)

[dense aspen]

Tru also personally I'd rather like to be hands-on and driving a car I spent a good chunk of my hard earned money so I enjoy myself on the ride rather than let some computer drive for me.

[static wolf]

Im just waiting for teleportation

[last siren]

I just noticed

https://tenor.com/view/glorp-deployed-alien-cat-gif-10264569409756179931

[dense aspen]

Aliens are real

[last siren]

no ufo

sad

[unique wyvern]

it's true

i'm the alien

[sly spear]

Seems legit

[cloud plover]

THERE LIKE 193/194 ON MY DOWNLOAD PLEASE LINUX RAHHHH

[deep token]

yop

[dense aspen]

@deep token

Haiii

[deep token]

hiiii

[last siren]

stay tuned for next week

[civic cairn]

Chaotic

[deep token]

:3

[last siren]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/381520882608373761/1124936146028351538/would_you_ride_with_him.mp4?ex=666e796d&is=666d27ed&hm=221a18d186dd4ef16401cde0538c1a7c6653dfc5748c72cd376b3a927c832f3a&

[indigo elk]

yes

[dense aspen]

[cloud plover]

Poke

[unique wyvern]

i ate the last download

[last siren]

would you ride with him though

[indigo elk]

hug cuddles

[cloud plover]

Rahhh&!

[jaunty trellis]

[dense aspen]

Yes

[cloud plover]

Mby

[indigo elk]

yeas

are you guys ailen

wm jupiter

[cloud plover]

Oh- my download finished :3

Yippee :D :3

[civic cairn]

https://tenor.com/view/doge-dogecoin-mintydoge-sad-train-gif-26701341

[static wolf]

What if we are from a different planet and we actually just forgot how we got here

[civic cairn]

Maybe

[last siren]

idk maybe

[crystal atlas]

as long as he drives me straight into a metal pole at roughly ~500mph then yes

[crude fern]

yes

[cloud plover]

Ive thought abt that alot
Like what if what we're doing to earth(pollution and stuff) was so bad that we had to escape to earth (from mars mby?)

Intersting though

Thought*

[static wolf]

All I know is that we are lowkey stupid

Like we've known pollution is bad for several years but we still do it

[noble quest]

Oops wrong image

[sly spear]

Breeze

[crystal atlas]

well itsnnot everyone

just most people

[sly spear]

Low resolution breeze dark wallpaper

[civic cairn]

You are, but don't generalize

[cloud plover]

Its not that we're stupid, its that ppl are greedy, we know how to fight it but its hard with large corps and oil companies

[static wolf]

That margin doesnt matter given how many people still do it

[crystal atlas]

anyways look at this car

[static wolf]

Sure ^^

[civic cairn]

Einstein theories made more sense than yours tbh

[jaunty trellis]

it's 100% fair to generalize the human race as a collective we don't deserve to make it anymore

[golden marlin]

insanely improbable

[static wolf]

All I know is oil companies paid me very fucking well

[static wolf]

Thing is you dont know though so the odds could be however larg you can imagine them to be

[crystal atlas]

but never 0

[golden marlin]

lmao nah we have the fossils

[static wolf]

??????????????

My guy

[civic cairn]

Tbh we blame each other for our mistakes, caused by big enemies, then it destructs society

[crystal atlas]

why is bro talking ab dinosaurs

[golden marlin]

the fossils of the apes we used to be

[static wolf]

This dude has shit for brains

[cloud plover]

Doesnt mean we weren't smth before that

[static wolf]

How do you know we used to be that?

It could all just be similarities?

[golden marlin]

yeah a coincidence

a big ol coincidence

[static wolf]

Still doesnt make the chances 0

[crystal atlas]

thats wqht i said

[cloud plover]

Omg linux is like- existing :3
Its doing tha thing

[static wolf]

I am never selling my soul to that operating system

[crystal atlas]

shhh

have u guys heard ab the like empty universe theory

[golden marlin]

there have been so many conspiracies and this one is kinda low effort

[civic cairn]

Linuxphobic

[static wolf]

Its all irony you absolute fucking dunce

[crystal atlas]

where were all just brains floating in space or wtv and reliving our past lives over n over

[golden marlin]

don't call me a dunce u drongo

[fickle cosmos]

LINUX IS SO BAD (I use arch btw)

[static wolf]

U labeled urself a Ukranian Capitalist I can call you whatever I want LOL

[civic cairn]

ITS A CURSE

[crystal atlas]

I HATE WINDOWS (i use windows 11 pro)

[golden marlin]

You can't know for sure

[cloud plover]

Why? Id rather not have my data stolen and sold by windows or deal with their dumb ai shit
Plus, no adds, i can make the computer look and function how i want, and i can be sily

[fickle cosmos]

I HATE MACOS (I still use it in VMs)

[sly spear]

I love that everyone hates linux but is slowly converting because of how shitty microsoft is

[golden marlin]

Aliens could've named me the ukrainian capitalist

[static wolf]

Im just too lazy

[cloud plover]

I wish i knew how to even vet started with arch lol TvT

[static wolf]

When games are fully supported I'll switch

[crystal atlas]

I DESPISE APPLE (i really like their consistent UI and how fluid everything is)

[cloud plover]

Most are

[sly spear]

They pretty much are

Excluding some shitty games

[fickle cosmos]

It's honestly not that bad

[static wolf]

I have been considering dual booting for a while

[indigo elk]

meow

nya

[sly spear]

Just try it out

[indigo elk]

[sly spear]

If you hate it there's no reason you can't go back

[static wolf]

Thing Is i am simply too lazy to make a partition

[cloud plover]

I had to reinstall my OS 9 times now and im using ubuntu, ill find a way to mess anything up if its possible lol TvT

[crystal atlas]

it takes like

[civic cairn]

If people weren't circle of jerks, I would've converted long ago

[static wolf]

also dont got no usb's at hand and partitioning and doing all that shit feels like it takes so long

[crystal atlas]

1m to create a partition

[noble quest]

Yes, just ignore them

[crystal atlas]

virtual machine:

vmware:

[sudden fjord]

last time I installed vmware my desktop was gone

[static wolf]

Allways felt iffy about vm's

[crystal atlas]

how

[sly spear]

I hate vms

Idk why

[static wolf]

One thing to know is that im an absolute fucking simpleton

[sudden fjord]

I just use qmeu

[fickle cosmos]

I've used arch for like 2-3 years and I have never fucked up the os 😭

[static wolf]

If windows works imma use it

Wait actually what does the spotify ui look like on linux?

[sudden fjord]

i followed what vmware told me, after a restart I didn’t have a desktop anymore

[icy grail]

meow ​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​

[sly spear]

Identical

[static wolf]

Oh so there is no point in me switching

[crystal atlas]

did u dedicate too much ram to the vm or smth

like how tf

[sudden fjord]

I haven’t even started a vm

[crystal atlas]

ive never even heard of some issue like that

[sudden fjord]

it just nuked my desktop environment

[last siren]

but no hardware acceleration :(

[hoary bough]

so ur switching cuz spotify looks better

[crystal atlas]

oh

linux

[static wolf]

Would send a picture of my spotify but I cant

[sudden fjord]

I was relatively new to linux desktops back then so that might be the issue

[fickle cosmos]

I do not care. (I got hardware accel work)

[crystal atlas]

im talking ab windows so idk

[sly spear]

Yes

[cloud plover]

I WILL find a way lol, i always do.
I ended up somehow fucking up windows so bad im missing every VS code redistribution but one and the one i have is corrupt making it impossible to install any of yhe others :3
If its a computer ill find a way to break it somehow

[sly spear]

That is the only reason

[sudden fjord]

in windows vm ware works for me too

[noble quest]

What color theme is that : 👀

[hoary bough]

can u switch it for me so i dont need premium to see song lyrics