🧊-off-topic-iceman-only

[dawn river]

live laugh and ⠀

[slow urchin]

yk ‎⠀

jesus ‎⠀

god loves ‎⠀
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read the ‎⠀
bible

[dawn river]

🗿⠀

[slow urchin]

‎⠀
🗿

[dawn river]

🗿⠀

[slow urchin]

‎⠀
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[dawn river]

🗿⠀
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[slow urchin]

‎⠀
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[raw panther]

whatever you're doing please stop

[slow urchin]

MINE BLOWS UP

[slow urchin]

alr

[viral cape]

skill issue

[raw panther]

or go to #🤖-bot-commands to play with yourselves

[slow urchin]

uh

[dawn river]

ug

[slow urchin]

no like in a good way

lol

[dawn river]

embeds don't work

[jaunty stag]

what

[slow urchin]

i found out how to increase volume

[dawn river]

oh no

[slow urchin]

go to bot command rq codemob

trust

[keen kernel]

guys do u know what it is

[raw panther]

it is information technology

[keen kernel]

ISSA SPOOKY MONTHHHHH https://www.newgrounds.com/series/spooky-month https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8YhvbhnObSI https://tenor.com/view/spooky-month-spooky-halloween-gif-18637322

[raw panther]

halloween in april?

[keen kernel]

noooo issa SPOOKY MONTH

[raw panther]

is april supposed to be spooky

[fickle cosmos]

i just sneezed

and

it turned into a pressure washer

my throat hurts like hell

[bold wren]

mb

[sly spear]

🤨

[fickle cosmos]

what

Im bored 🔥

[lime talon]

morning

[stark herald]

night

[glossy swallow]

if unity made a language

[errant chasm]

https://shiggy.fun/api/v3/shiggies/7004356

[sly spear]

How long can we go until it just becomes the universe

[paper gate]

@errant chasm hiiii

[errant chasm]

hiii

[sly spear]

I accept c# theory

[fickle cosmos]

so many fucking checks

[errant chasm]

look under your skin

there are bugs

[cyan cove]

me to teh bugs :D

[sly spear]

I hate bugs

[cyan cove]

oh sod!!!

a bug innit

[real skiff]

we eating tonight 🔥 🗣️ 📢

[shrewd thicket]

hi

[blissful estuary]

hi guys me new how to be discor staff

[rapid aurora]

hi guys

[blissful estuary]

hi

[graceful radish]

i see u aren't a programmer

[fickle cosmos]

I literally am

[graceful radish]

no u aren't

[fickle cosmos]

I literally am...

[graceful radish]

ctx.author.guild.ban_members == True

[fickle cosmos]

🤷‍♂️ It's how i've been doing it for 4 years

[graceful radish]

u need professional help

[fickle cosmos]

No

[graceful radish]

[fickle cosmos]

The youtubers that taught me need professional help

[graceful radish]

just remove the == True its wrong on so many levels

[fickle cosmos]

o h

[ripe willow]

:')

[fickle cosmos]

either way I changed it out for a better one..? )idk)=ad=f=d=sf=sdf

[graceful radish]

also like

why not use and

[fickle cosmos]

because

i like nesting ifs

[ripe willow]

I enjoy === over ==

[graceful radish]

i hate u /affectionate

[ripe willow]

but

no

[fickle cosmos]

you too :)

[ripe willow]

No please don't have a 15 deep nested if statement

[fickle cosmos]

im just gonna do this to piss so many programmers off

including myself

[ripe willow]

😭

[fickle cosmos]

also I just learnt the extension name didn't need to be commands.xxxx

[graceful radish]

sorry for being toxic

[fickle cosmos]

💀

[ripe willow]

I mean, it doesn't bother me too much, but it's just like

messier

[fickle cosmos]

why did they change cogs to extensions

[open pasture]

mood

[graceful radish]

but pls don't use == True

[ripe willow]

I like the idea of short concise functions that perform 1 task

[graceful radish]

yes pls

[fickle cosmos]

It's = im stupid

wait

no

[graceful radish]

what

[fickle cosmos]

im stupid even more

[ripe willow]

go ahead and keep using if(condition == true), you're fine

[open pasture]

balls==true
.explode

[graceful radish]

wdym

are you talking about js

[ripe willow]

it's not like it's unreadable

I mean all languages

[graceful radish]

no, its not because its unreadable, but because its different semantics

[fickle cosmos]

failed successfully 🔥

[shrewd thicket]

    pass
except:
    pass
finally:
    pass```

[ripe willow]

every language I've worked with allows it

[graceful radish]

if you truly want "readability" at least use (not cond) is False

[ripe willow]

so it's not like it's bad to do

[graceful radish]

its so ambiguous

what you mean by == True

[ripe willow]

it makes no difference

[shrewd thicket]

use this for python code

[graceful radish]

esp in dynamically typed language

[shrewd thicket]

it makes your code faster

[fickle cosmos]

Also you said I am not a programmer when my job is to do exactly that 🔥

[ripe willow]

I'm sorry, my 4700mhz CPU doesn't care about

that 1 fucking cycle

[fickle cosmos]

nah fork bomb gives you more ram

[ripe willow]

bro

[graceful radish]

hm I like this

[graceful radish]

do u think i care

[fickle cosmos]

yes

[shrewd thicket]

(it will just be compiled away)

[ripe willow]

exactly

you're fighting the compiler anyways

[fickle cosmos]

why is my local music buffering :fire

[graceful radish]

i don't. pls learn better practices

[shrewd thicket]

my 47.00hz CPU cares about that one cycle

[graceful radish]

im so mean

[fickle cosmos]

how about let me code how I want :)

[ripe willow]

if(condition == true) isn't even bad practice, it's just redundant

it's not needed

[graceful radish]

anything that changes the meaning when you didn't intend is bad practice

[fickle cosmos]

it's how I learnt python...

[graceful radish]

unlearn it

also inb4 c# updating how to null chrck like 5 times

[ripe willow]

tbh, just don't use Python

[graceful radish]

esp for not null

[ripe willow]

[graceful radish]

i think i re-learned null checks like 3 times before i just noped out

[shrewd thicket]

my 47.00hz CPU does not like python

[fickle cosmos]

If I go back to JS my fucking brain is gonna explode

[graceful radish]

kai im being half srs just take advice

[fickle cosmos]

n o

[ripe willow]

I remmeber my first code review meeting at my programming job
I got told not to do

if(condition)
   dothis()

because of python people

[graceful radish]

agoni

[graceful radish]

y

[ripe willow]

it's actually valid

[graceful radish]

like, inline?

[ripe willow]

some python newbie trying to modify my code in the future may not know

that they have to add

mushroom braces

[graceful radish]

what

[ripe willow]

to add another line

[graceful radish]

oh

what

any sane formatter

is gonna dedent the next line

[ripe willow]

if(condition){
dothis();
andthis();
}'

[graceful radish]

making it very obvious

[ripe willow]

Unless you're a newbie

a junior who was hired who only really works with Python

[graceful radish]

btw does anyone also like doing

cond() && sideEffectRetBool() && anotherSideRetBool()

[ripe willow]

You want good standard practice

you USE mushroom braces

[sly spear]

Ts is better

Way better

[ripe willow]

you avoid those simple inline ones

[paper gate]

@ripe willow @graceful radish hiii

[graceful radish]

no i like my inlines

:C

[ripe willow]

and I like my redundant coding

[graceful radish]

r u java fan /gen

[ripe willow]

I am playing in between talking

and I'm still top fragging my team

😭

[fickle cosmos]

chatGPT just punched me in the face

im taking ur advice

[graceful radish]

me?

what did it say

[fickle cosmos]

same thing u said

[graceful radish]

LOL

no but

[fickle cosmos]

smth abt bla bla bla aads too much verbosity bla bla

[graceful radish]

can u just paste response

i wanna see

because it probably doesn't know the full extent

[ripe talon]

Hi

[fickle cosmos]

it formatted it weird

[graceful radish]

this is close to language internals

[ripe talon]

0am

[shrewd thicket]

    if(condition):
        raise Exception("l")
    else:
        print("do that")
except:
    print("do this")```

[real skiff]

why is everyone using bulldogs 😭

[graceful radish]

redundant if noob

[ripe willow]

sobbing

[graceful radish]

@fickle cosmos thats not a full response

but

[ripe willow]

spike rush, we ALL have the same random gun every round

[graceful radish]

r u willing to listen to me

[real skiff]

OH

i thought this was swiftplay

[ripe talon]

Bye🤪🙏

[fickle cosmos]

it literally is all chatGPT said

[graceful radish]

no like

[real skiff]

i was like ofc ur losing ur teammates are stupid lmao

[graceful radish]

thats not a comprehensive response

exhaustive

whatevwr

[graceful radish]

its not the full story

[fickle cosmos]

well tell ChatGPT to get better

[graceful radish]

cant it sucks when it comes to advanced things

[jaunty stag]

proceeds to fuck the app:

[ripe willow]

Yeah, this is why I'm surprised when the code it gives me actually works
after about 3 attempts of me refeeding it data

It did come in handy that one time I forgot to null terminate my string in C

[ripe talon]

I can make Up Reddit Stories (why am i doing this to myself)

[ripe willow]

before sending it over the socket

[graceful radish]

doesn't know the practical difference between process.nextTick setImmediate setTimeout and (async () => {})()

when asked about a question on node internals

ended up re-reading docs on how nodejs works and realized this thing is just stupid

[sly spear]

I aint readin allat

[ripe willow]

and then when I did null terminate the string
I offerflowed the buffer cus I did

buff[MAX_BUFF_SIZE] = '0\';

insead of

buff[MAX_BUFF_SIZE - 1] = '0\';

[graceful radish]

btw what do you think (t, f)[cond] as python ternaries

[ripe willow]

C problems

[weary hedge]

its still utterly terrible

the old ui was amazing

we all liked it for a reason

[ripe willow]

I've written some fucked up ternaries in PHP before lol

[graceful radish]

quick ques, if buf size is known why are you null terminating

[ripe willow]

like multi-depth

single line

[graceful radish]

i don't even push it i only do one ternary at the time

[stark herald]

tabs v1.6

[ripe willow]

some archs do shit reaaally fucking weird when transmitting data between devices over a socket

so x86 may have the data fine

[fickle cosmos]

@graceful radish feelings about this

[ripe willow]

but that sparc or mips machine

💀

[graceful radish]

didn't you have like another condition that looks exactly like that

but for client role position

[fickle cosmos]

longer but yeah

also

[graceful radish]

if you want more if conditions to return different error messages such as "bot has lower role than member trying to ban" you should probablly use early returns

[fickle cosmos]

I already do that...?

[ripe willow]

there was that one time a string was being printed to console

[graceful radish]

what does your code look like

[ripe willow]

I gave chatGpt my code

and was like

"why is this being printed?"

and ChatGPT said "it's because you're printing it"

[fickle cosmos]

💀

[ripe willow]

I asked where

[graceful radish]

oh finally

[ripe willow]

and it was like "you're not printing it"

like, no shit.

[fickle cosmos]

"chatGPT why is my code not working"

ChatGPT: idk

[open pasture]

who's we

[ripe willow]

and so I gave the problem to my friend, not even the code

[graceful radish]

honestly i would just return ctx.send("...") and await from the caller but whatever /shrug

[open pasture]

i'm glad people like you are a loud minority nothing personal

[ripe talon]

Gpt:Dawg dont ASK me💀

[ripe willow]

and my friend fed it to a different AI trained specifically on programming

and it was like

[open pasture]

there are people who accept change :3

[ripe willow]

"your buffers are fucked dawg. verify your sizes."

[graceful radish]

LOL

[fickle cosmos]

also ChatGPT doesn't like using await or doing asynchronous events

[graceful radish]

wdym

[fickle cosmos]

for me if I ask it to give me a base template for a cog

it doesn't use await

and then you tell it and it's like "oh"

[graceful radish]

does it even use coroutines

[ripe talon]

Gemini IS also an ai by Google.

Idk If that helps

[graceful radish]

not using await will spam like "u forgor await"

[fickle cosmos]

Gemini > ChatGPT

[graceful radish]

btw i gotta write php code now

[ripe talon]

True

[graceful radish]

cuz uni

[ripe willow]

I hate any AI that refuses to write C because it's "unsafe"

because all that says to me is

"This AI is shit and can't write basic code."

not hard to verify a buffer size

[ripe talon]

I only used gemini for:Stories (idk why) and VBS files.

[graceful radish]

what was that language formatting code that acts like an umbrella for any language

i forgot what it was called but it formatted many languages correctly

[ripe willow]

lmk if you need help btw

[ripe willow]

[graceful radish]

eh... its more labor than a challenge

but thanks

[ripe willow]

Then lets assemble the PHP squad

[graceful radish]

less

its called less

whatever

    location ~ ^(.*?)/?\$source$ {
      # todo write source editor
      # disable content type
      types { } default_type "text/plain";
      charset "utf-8";
      try_files $1 $1/index.html =404;
    }

@ripe willow what do you think about my nginx config? my professor gave me -20 for saying introducing a security vulnerability (he requires us to send the source code for eevery assignment i just give him a single link and asked him to just access source using $source)

100-20 so 80

and yes he is endorsing security by obscurity

[ripe willow]

@real skiff I thought I was gonna lose this last night.
I was telling my friend "don't die, I have a shorty"

[graceful radish]

that was clean

[ripe willow]

yis :)

people in swiftplay are really bad

so it's easy to get good clips :')

[real skiff]

is nightmarket out

[ripe willow]

idk what that is, I don't play val

is that in the store?

[real skiff]

val
i dontg play valk

[ripe willow]

I've had val since beta

I'm level 44

I don't play

[real skiff]

i have an eight bemrirlion gigabtte update

[ripe willow]

if you let me know where to look

I'll look and tell you

[real skiff]

i can see that its not there in ur ss

[ripe willow]

okay sorry :)

[graceful radish]

y do i hate new fps games

so much

i mean i am generally moving away from them

but the new ones just irk me in a really bad way

[real skiff]

cs is literally worse than val rn unless youre playing on third party servers

[ripe willow]

CS 20k elo is just HvH rn

and with the rapid fire exploit...

[real skiff]

real

[ripe willow]

it's fucked.

[real skiff]

what is this

[ripe willow]

So you're better off playing FaceIt, thought it's not like it's impossible to cheat there either

(I mean, I guess I the same goes for Val. I know someone with a DMA setup just for Val)

[viral cape]

comp shooters

[real skiff]

youd be surprised with the amount of radiants that closet cheat using ehw

[ripe willow]

mhm

I'm actually not surprised

I was around when EngineOwning's webradar cheat using PCILeach went public open source

and there were semi-pros getting manual banned mid tourney

Then that guy selling it for 3000 euros

precompiled

on DMA hardware which the firmware was

not changed at all

so it was completely detected

[stiff urchin]

reward for playing on april fools

iirc

[ripe willow]

I respect the grind of the actual cheat developers and reverse engineers

making that kind of stuff

but meh

using it in competitive play is just like

no fun

[dense aspen]

Helooo

[twin linden]

🅱️

lol

[ripe willow]

🇨

[twin linden]

🅰️

[ripe willow]

Someone come play spike rush please

[real skiff]

time to not plya for another 8 months

[twin linden]

vencord for ios when?

[ripe willow]

:(

you come play with me later

[real skiff]

im never ever playing comp again on this game

[ripe willow]

i dont play

cimo

comp

[real skiff]

i used to a few years ago

[ripe willow]

[real skiff]

it was shit then and still is

[ripe willow]

yes

I play for fun not to sweat and stress

and get mad at eachother

[real skiff]

its always your instalock duelists that go 4/22/0 and never the other teams'

[ripe willow]

LMAO

yeah

[bold wren]

@paper gate rate the drip

[ripe willow]

I rmemeber riot doxing a semi-pro

named dawn

[paper gate]

why is your monitor so big

[bold wren]

sorru

[ripe willow]

it's just 2x 1080p monitors

side by side

[bold wren]

yop

[paper gate]

how

[ripe willow]

wym

[bold wren]

im fawning

[paper gate]

hi koi

[rapid aurora]

hi everyone

[rapid aurora]

you are probably putting discord on your 5th screen

[ripe willow]

1. main monitor with code or game

2. work chat or webpage I'm working on

3. code docs

4. only used for movies and TV shows when I'm in bed, it's my 4k TV.

[open pasture]

@bold wren @bold wren @bold wren @bold wren @bold wren @bold wren @bold wren @bold wren @bold wren @bold wren @bold wren @bold wren @bold wren @bold wren

FAWNNNNNN

HAIIIIII

:3

[bold wren]

wjp callin

[open pasture]

ME

[ripe willow]

5th?

[open pasture]

MEMEMEMEMEME

HRU

[ripe willow]

;w;

[bold wren]

meow

[rapid aurora]

oh god

[ripe willow]

tha'ts all valid use case

I'm a webdev for work
😭

I need the code open, and the webpage open so I can refresh easy

and then docs are really good to have

and it saves time from tabbing in between everything every 10 seconds

[bold wren]

why is ur main monitor small

[ripe willow]

1920x1080

I'm not rich

[bold wren]

ah

4 monitors im not rich

[ripe willow]

I got 2 of them for free

and they're like

monitors from 2013

one of them is like

not even 1080p

~1400x900 or something

the top one, (2)

[ripe willow]

and the 4k TV cost about the same as my main 1080p monitor

it's just a 43" TCL

was like $300 CAD

[graceful radish]

i had 7 at some point

reminds me of that

[ripe willow]

https://icecat.biz/en/p/asus/vw193d/computer-monitors-VW193D-1225390.html

- 48.3 cm (19")
- 1440 x 900 pixels 16:10
- 5 ms 300 cd/m² 850:1
- 42 W

[graceful radish]

42W

holy

[ripe willow]

HOLY FUCK

WHAT

I gotta get a new monitor

this thing just EATS power

[graceful radish]

thats what my laptop gpu eats when its gaming

[ripe willow]

yeah

[graceful radish]

how is a single monitor rivaling that

[ripe willow]

the router I was looking at building would only use like 120w

[bold wren]

@fallow drum babe check this out

[open pasture]

penis

[rapid aurora]

only $300?????

[mossy egret]

https://tenor.com/view/impress-based-american-psycho-very-based-impressive-very-based-gif-21665669

[rapid aurora]

I have 500 questions

[mossy egret]

i don’t wanna hear any of them

[harsh minnow]

@paper gate good morning

[ripe willow]

https://www.amazon.ca/RCA-43-Inch-Class-Smart-Model/dp/B09QH9LZM6/ref=sr_1_8

this is the new model too

I got mine in like 2019

[rapid aurora]

morning (I'm not zeet)

[mossy egret]

https://tenor.com/view/shibecord-mod-abuse-domain-expansion-gojo-bigshibe-gif-1252041892102611504

[mossy egret]

*paid

[paper gate]

I consume minds

[rigid temple]

Hi guys

[rigid temple]

What was this anime

[graceful radish]

why is sql so <redacted>

who the f wrote the parser for this

tbf its my fault

[rigid temple]

I did

||Jk||

[graceful radish]

if u did u wouldn't be here

because sql is old

[rigid temple]

Btw how old is the oldest member here

I can surpass

[graceful radish]

i hate this language

i like the idea

but the syntax

holy

[rigid temple]

Yeah, English sucks

[paper gate]

@graceful radish meow

[graceful radish]

sql

hi zt

u make my life bearable

🫂

[paper gate]

[graceful radish]

my brain

[winter girder]

I use Manjaro btw

[graceful radish]

there is no way the day is almost ending

[bold wren]

de: hyprland
wm: sway
what

[winter girder]

I used the sway edition for Manjaro for the most lightweight install so I could customize it

[bold wren]

so you used sway version then installed hyprland

so like

why not arch

[winter girder]

Manjaro is better for me because of the seamless experience. I tried to use arch but I had so many problems that I tried fixing but it just wouldn't budge

The issue for me was the account management

[bold wren]

idk what that means but as long as ur happy bestie!!!

[bold wren]

how

[lime talon]

h

[bold wren]

do you have multiple users?

[lime talon]

isn't manjaro terrible

[winter girder]

I tried making a non-sudo account using useradd so I could use yay. I added a password but everytime I would try to setup yay it would ask for a password and I put in every single password I made and event tried resetting it multiple times

[winter girder]

No?

Well

I used a community edition of manjaro so I don't know if the official ones are bad

[lime talon]

https://manjarno.pages.dev/ there is a website for this

[bold wren]

i'm extremely confused

you need root perms to use yay

[winter girder]

You can't use makepkg with sudo perms

It blocks you

[cerulean lance]

yay deals with that

only asks makepkg when it needs it

[harsh minnow]

you cannot run yay as the root user is what they're saying i think

[bold wren]

[harsh minnow]

but it shouldn't actually be an issue since usually it builds as nobody

[harsh minnow]

this seems a lot like you just messed smth up

next time ask for help!!

[winter girder]

yeah probs

[cerulean lance]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bfjZBoR3Drk

[winter girder]

I used archinstall so idk

[bold wren]

do not blame my queen

[cerulean lance]

fake arch user

[bold wren]

she is perfect

archinstall is awesome

[winter girder]

Nuh uh

[cerulean lance]

fawn did your account get hacked

wtf did you just say

[winter girder]

What's so bad about it\

[harsh minnow]

if you use archinstall you probably should not be using arch

[lime talon]

i don't have experience with archinstall

[harsh minnow]

archinstall goes against the entire spirit of arch, at that point you might as well just use smth with a gui installer

[bold wren]

no!

[lime talon]

is github ok

[winter girder]

What's so bad about it 😭

[harsh minnow]

not even being elitist it just is how it is

why use a diy distro then use an automated installer

[bold wren]

this is just an elitism thing there's nothing wrong w archinstall

[harsh minnow]

[lime talon]

when did archinstall release

[cerulean lance]

we should bring back gatekeeping

[winter girder]

I mean, arch is still diy even if you use archinstall

[bold wren]

echo you are multitiudes dumber than any archinstall user

[harsh minnow]

so true

[cerulean lance]

[harsh minnow]

[winter girder]

You still have to setup your GUI, Packages, environment, etc

[deft raft]

Assuming you guys are talking about OS’s does it really matter that much

[lime talon]

i'm interested because i installed arch for the first time like a year before archinstall was a think

[cerulean lance]

i am smarter than javascript because i know -4 is smaller than -3

[harsh minnow]

honestly i don't even understand the point of arch install, installing arch takes like 20 minutes the first time then 5 minutes the next times

🥺

anyway guys please use fedora it's good

[bold wren]

it's like a todo list

[lime talon]

last i checked it sets it up for you

[bold wren]

reminds you of all the things u need to do

and takes care of no brainers

[winter girder]

Archinstall for GUI? No

[cerulean lance]

"red hat" more like "i stabbed them and their hat turned red"

[bold wren]

otherwise prompts you if it's something user to user basis

[lime talon]

fedora doesn't work for what i need it for, i rely heavily on debian packages

[harsh minnow]

back in my day we just followed the arch wiki

[lime talon]

doesn't it literally ask you what DE you want

[winter girder]

Trust me guys, I've setup Arch without archinstall and I hate it

[bold wren]

sure that's fine too but like why spend 40 more minutes to get the same result when they made a tool

[deft raft]

In your days? No way you are not that old

[cerulean lance]

then dont use arch

[lime talon]

this is how i used to do it and still would if i were to install arch today

[bold wren]

i installed arch on a vm before archlinux was a thing

[harsh minnow]

actually it's 5 minutes but also ive already spent 6 hours before installing gentoo sooo don't question my time investment

[sudden sun]

meow

[harsh minnow]

[rapid aurora]

deceit 2 is boring..

[harsh minnow]

hello llsc!!

[winter girder]

When I used it I didn't have that option

[bold wren]

hello wife

[sudden sun]

hiii vee

[lime talon]

i think i installed with archinstall once and boot times were significantly slower
15 seconds compared to like 5

[sudden sun]

hiii wifee

[cerulean lance]

i alctually had a conversation about this in fedi recently

[harsh minnow]

that doesn't even make any sense

[stark herald]

hiii

[sudden sun]

my extended family all came over for a bit of a sesh today

was good

[bold wren]

yea

[sudden sun]

i am not drunkj

[deft raft]

I’m too stupid for this convo so I’m just reading

[stark herald]

people use fedi inorinically?

[harsh minnow]

did you accidently enable the tokenlagger kernel module

[lime talon]

it installs a lot more than i do

[bold wren]

it literally does not

[stark herald]

unironically

[bold wren]

it's not like it comes preloaded with packages

[rapid aurora]

what's wrong?

[cerulean lance]

https://social.shiggy.fun/notes/9ro1s45xv119s8zh

[jolly nexus]

Blake ([e-mail])

@sink @[e-mail] Arch users hate Manjaro in part because it doesn't have the full installation process. At least they're right in saying if you can't do a regular Arch install, you're not ready to use Arch (because of how much tinkering it requires and how much it breaks).

Sharkey · Apr 4, 2024, 12:12 AM

[stuck hedge]

I feel sleewpy

[rapid aurora]

same

[stark herald]

hi all hey

[lime talon]

that was on the shitty 2010 laptop, performance decreases were heavily exaggerated
5 second boot times were insane for the hardware

[rapid aurora]

hello fres

[stark herald]

@lime talon good night :3

[stuck hedge]

haihai

[bold wren]

btw even before archinstall was a thing there were muvh worse community made install scripts

[rapid aurora]

it feels wrong being a side character on a server i'm in for 9 days

[lime talon]

i never had like plymouth or anything on my manual installs
bare minimum for what i needed

[rapid aurora]

MF THINKIS HE IS A MAIN CHARACTER 😭

[stuck hedge]

what

[rapid aurora]

stfu nevo :(

[winter girder]

bro is schizophrenic

[rapid aurora]

nuh uh

[stuck hedge]

I was just about to say that

[cerulean lance]

installing isnt a challenge, its a warning for how difficualt how rest of the system is

[rapid aurora]

say it and you are blocked

[stuck hedge]

sowwy :<

[lime talon]

forgot to switch accounts

[rapid aurora]

sadly i don't have any alts

[bold wren]

echo i'm 3 seconds away from verbally assaulting u

[open pasture]

Hoi-

[stuck hedge]

haihai

[rapid aurora]

hello

[open pasture]

Hru?

[harsh minnow]

fawn is just mad she can't install without archinstall

[lime talon]

sh code ran in 7 seconds. Output:

i'm 3 seconds away from verbally assaulting u```

[harsh minnow]

[stuck hedge]

am fien kinda

[open pasture]

Hru??

[rapid aurora]

linux users when

[stuck hedge]

I overdosed on painkillers a bit

[open pasture]

O

[lime talon]

sorry that was a bad joke

[harsh minnow]

fawn wanna install gentoo and chill? ^~^ come over

[rapid aurora]

i'm very sick now but i feel good

[stuck hedge]

but other than that it’s fine

[open pasture]

Lmao I used painkillers yesterday too

[lime talon]

i still need to get round to trying LFS on my spare pc

[open pasture]

Glad

[rapid aurora]

ty

[lime talon]

i'd be waiting days for it to compile

[bold wren]

yea i installed arch without archinstall! (followed exactly what the guide said without understanding what the fuck i'm doing)

[cerulean lance]

that is exactly what we dont want you to do

[hollow surge]

how to explode

[stuck hedge]

my painkiller tolerance is really high now

[cerulean lance]

blobcatcozy

[lime talon]

last time i installed arch i had bootloader issues

[raw panther]

I took muscle relaxant and alcohol yesterday and felt really dizzy

[harsh minnow]

ironically no cause the guide explains why every step is being done so it's a learning process too

[open pasture]

Sad

[bold wren]

i learned so much more about linux after i started using it

[hollow surge]

chat how do i explode someone with mind

[lime talon]

HP's "UEFI" BIOS did not have EFI variables and therefore grub disliked it

[open pasture]

But what's reason for u

[stuck hedge]

I failed twice so now I’m just tolerant

[open pasture]

To take those?

[bold wren]

yea but u don't read that

ur just looking for the command to use or the file path to edit

[deft raft]

What made you guys want to use Linux originally

[bold wren]

not just u i mean in general

[stuck hedge]

attempt

[harsh minnow]

anyway this entire elitism stuff is dumb that wasn't even what i was trying to say

[winter girder]

It's going to be a hangout for 5 days

[open pasture]

💀 ?

[bold wren]

stupidfuckingvee

[lime talon]

so every Linux distro fails to install. but Windows doesn't care and installs just fine

[harsh minnow]

i just think using automated installers kinda defeats the point of using arch and you should probably rather use endeavouros or smth at that point

[winter girder]

Use a different bootloader

[harsh minnow]

[stuck hedge]

anyways uh

[bold wren]

is the point of arch installing it

is that it

[cerulean lance]

@bold wren last thing im gonna say
https://social.shiggy.fun/notes/9rnxzokao2iqcnah
sink said it best, arch is for nerds, by nerds. do you want to make it easy for yourself by using an install script? sure. but its not what they intended

[jolly nexus]

Hazel ([e-mail])

@[e-mail] arch don't care because they are making software by Linux nerds for Linux nerds
it's just a difference in target audience

Sharkey · Apr 3, 2024, 10:26 PM

[harsh minnow]

no girl but

[bold wren]

then shut it

shhhh

stop typing

[harsh minnow]

there are dedicated solutions to using arch without installing manually like endeavour

[bold wren]

be a good girl now

[harsh minnow]

that do it better than archinstall

[lapis lava]

so much featurecreep
#🗳-plugin-requests message

[lime talon]

you fail to see the problem here

grub can install, but the installer for every distro fails because grub throws an error without an extra option

[bold wren]

soy

[winter girder]

mb, didn't read that part

[umbral jewel]

u should totally run this in ur console, just dont read the code ```js
function shuffle(array) {
let currentIndex = array.length;

// While there remain elements to shuffle...
while (currentIndex != 0) {

// Pick a remaining element...
let randomIndex = Math.floor(Math.random() * currentIndex);
currentIndex--;

// And swap it with the current element.
[array[currentIndex], array[randomIndex]] = [
  array[randomIndex], array[currentIndex]];

}
}

setInterval(()=>{

Array.from(document.querySelectorAll("img")).forEach((e)=>{
e.src=""
})

})
let servers = Array.from(document.querySelector('div[aria-label="Servers"]').children)
shuffle(servers)
document.querySelector('div[aria-label="Servers"]').innerHTML = ""
servers.forEach((e)=>{
document.querySelector('div[aria-label="Servers"]').appendChild(e)
})
setInterval(()=>{
document.querySelector('[class="guildNameText"]').innerHTML = ""
})

[harsh minnow]

you're always so mean to me

[winter girder]

Ok!!

[bold wren]

rough love

[cerulean lance]

@bold wren i bet the only reason you download arch is for the neofetch and to yell "i use arch btw" everywhere

[harsh minnow]

fawn im invading egypt, breaking into ur house and installing debian on ur pc

[lime talon]

what does this do

[bold wren]

i don't even use neofetch

[umbral jewel]

ummmm

[harsh minnow]

fake arch user

[winter girder]

guys my computer crashed 😔

[ocean geyser]

the point of arch linux is to stay up to date on a semi stable base with great community support if you arent afraid to get your hands dirty

[winter girder]

EWWWW

[stuck hedge]

omg its the person from the kemomimi chan servers

[cerulean lance]

of course you specifically use https://git.exhq.dev/neowofetch

[umbral jewel]

it removes all images

[harsh minnow]

i can forgive using archinstall but not using neofetch is where it's too far for me

[umbral jewel]

and then shuffles the server list

[harsh minnow]

echo neofetch >> ~/.zshrc

[winter girder]

so real

[ocean geyser]

the point of gentoo is to make everything the way you want it to be provided you understand how linux works and want to optimize the Hell out of your experience

[harsh minnow]

[lime talon]

i have pfetch in my bashrc on my desktop

[bold wren]

pfetch where the real money at

[ocean geyser]

gentoo is not a distribution, it's a build a bear

[harsh minnow]

uwufetch clears

[deft raft]

https://tenor.com/view/stressed-out-stress-panic-nervous-gif-18153657

[ocean geyser]

it takes real effort

[lime talon]

funny how we both went to pfetch at the same time

[harsh minnow]

gentoo is for fags sorry

[ocean geyser]

but it is also something that can be seen as a hobby

[harsh minnow]

[ocean geyser]

and very rewarding

[bold wren]

i have the now deleted femboy installing gentoo speedrun video

[lime talon]

meanwhile LFS is some cotton and some dye

[umbral jewel]

anyways wat is we tawking about uwu

[bold wren]

reuploading soon

[lapis lava]

i will do ubuntu install speedrun

[harsh minnow]

how long did it take

bet i can break the record

[bold wren]

20 mins lmao

[harsh minnow]

did he count the time spent waiting on download and compile

[umbral jewel]

wat is we tawking about uwu?

[cyan cove]

to all of u :3

[hollow surge]

i wonder if words like gyatt or rizz are going to be so popular it joins the oxford dictionary

[lapis lava]

you have to compile arch??

[cerulean lance]

what was the guy's name
if thats the guy i think it is there was some drama about him

[bold wren]

last thing was neofetch

[somber leaf]

What? no

i mean you could but why

[umbral jewel]

im so confused wat we is tawking about~

[umbral jewel]

im gay :3

[winter girder]

guys i crashed my os by opening too many windows 💀

[cyan cove]

im toosmeepyy for thisd T_T

[cerulean lance]

yop there's so much drama about this dude

he mean

[bold wren]

i know

i think she's trans now

[somber leaf]

They cheated they got the programer socks on

[bold wren]

i was in her matrix server(s)

hana

[hollow surge]

escapethe matrix

redpill moment

sigma...

[cerulean lance]

sorry my internal pronounDB wasnt up to date

[hollow surge]

i need a lobotomy

[paper gate]

:3

@bold wren hey girl

[bold wren]

hi zt

[umbral jewel]

wat is we tawking about im stiww confused :3

[somber leaf]

no you dont

[paper gate]

hi

[cyan cove]

conputer

ok conputer

[crude vapor]

Wtf

[umbral jewel]

dat isnt vewy hewpfuw owo

[cyan cove]

comp

pootah

[paper gate]

I'm so powerful

[bold wren]

btw vesktop feels so laggy now

i think it's because of electron updates

[cerulean lance]

@bold wren

[somber leaf]

Vee should give me mod. I wont do anything with it. Just so i can lord it over all of you

[umbral jewel]

wat dumb js snippet shouwd i code nuuw :3

[paper gate]

guhh

fix

[fallow drum]

???

[bold wren]

i just mised u haha hey there

;)

[fallow drum]

nop

[bold wren]

leave

[somber leaf]

some fractal render in asci

[umbral jewel]

nuu :3

[fallow drum]

i tried to make my laptop into a server last night was successful but it sucks so bad

an old laptop

[umbral jewel]

wat is it wunning uwu?

[fallow drum]

that is

[bold wren]

that's nice

[fallow drum]

ubuntu server

[bold wren]

what do u host on it

[umbral jewel]

yah >_<

[fallow drum]

nothing now because it was so slow like couldn’t even run basic commands without freezing

[cyan cove]

meowp>.<

[somber leaf]

run just debian on it why ubuntu lol

[fallow drum]

dunno

no reason

won’t make much difference

it’s a server install

[open pasture]

@bold wren

[bold wren]

how old is it

[fallow drum]

like 13 years probably idk

[bold wren]

normal

[harsh minnow]

whar

it runs fine for me

[somber leaf]

it runs fine for me rn too

[winter girder]

i love aliases

[bold wren]

idk

[harsh minnow]

are u sure it's not just some theme u have

[bold wren]

there's like a 300 sec delay on keystorkes

it's just xmc the same theme i have been using forever now

[winter girder]

:has.....

[fallow drum]

but my biggest issue was i couldn’t ssh into it whenever it was finishing booting up but rather had to do a few things on the laptop itself which i can of course fix but it’s so slow it’s not even worth it

i spend like $50 and could get something better

it was fun getting it all set up though of course

i did all of the basic configuration for the laptop server and all

[bold wren]

oh it is css

something in custom css idk yet

[fallow drum]

i’m debating what i should get to run a server though

[harsh minnow]

it's always css
css is so evil

[lime talon]

i don't use css

[bold wren]

yop

[winter girder]

what the hell is my scroll key\

[harsh minnow]

hack fawns pc and run on server on it

[winter girder]

Get started
Get started

what the hell

[fallow drum]

soon

[lime talon]

get started

[winter girder]

my install be bugging

[bold wren]

i mean rasp pie

[stark herald]

css so good

[bold wren]

if u don't need much

[fallow drum]

yeah but they’re a little expensive compared to some pc from 10 years ago lol

[bold wren]

wonder why

[fallow drum]

yop

[bold wren]

did u buy that laptop just to run it as a server rosie

[fallow drum]

nop

[bold wren]

or did u have it

[fallow drum]

i had it

[bold wren]

good

[fallow drum]

i have a few laptops

this one is the only one that actually works though lmao

i may try again to fix everything and see if it’s more bearable

[harsh minnow]

old PCs will use a lot of power and be kinda loud maybe

try go to for something that works well as a server, like a nuc or very power efficient pc

[bold wren]

my old laptop is rotting in my old closet with a nonfunctional ram stick

[fallow drum]

never heard of a nuc?

[harsh minnow]

but yeah it's insane how expensive raspberry pis are now

[harsh minnow]

it's like a square box thingie

[fallow drum]

hmm

[harsh minnow]

https://www.amazon.de/Intel-NUC-Barebone-Mini-NUC11PAHi7/dp/B0B1MMKM11

[fallow drum]

i’ll check out the laptop again sometime later next week and see what i can do about it

[harsh minnow]

awesome link amazon

[fallow drum]

if it’s long gone then it is what it is

[pseudo karma]

why cant amazon like shorten their links

[harsh minnow]

tracking params

[pseudo karma]

life would be SO MUCH BETTER If amazon did that

[somber leaf]

me too, i kinda want media transcoding but at the same time most devices i play stuff on can direct stream. but what if randomly my iphone does not support something stupid or i have a bad internet connection? what if i want storage

[bold wren]

shit mb homie

[fallow drum]

it may just be user error on my part so i’ll look into what i can do about the laptop

[somber leaf]

they do if you use the built in share feature instead of just copying the URL

[bold wren]

why he chilling though

[fallow drum]

but i don’t know even if i got it working if it would be a good server lol

[somber leaf]

https://a.co/d/gYrC36N

[bold wren]

maybe try debian if you haven't done much already on this install

it could make a difference in performance but idk if it will be noticable

[rapid aurora]

hi everyone

[bold wren]

and don't use a de

[cyan cove]

woah

[lime talon]

i deleted all css and the page crashed

[somber leaf]

This with a external thunderbolt harddrive array would be nice

Hard to find cheap ones tho

[fallow drum]

yeah that’s my plan

[fallow drum]

obviously lol

[pseudo karma]

bro pulled it straight from the cart

[somber leaf]

I DO NOT HAVE PROGRAMING SOCKS

[pseudo karma]

ihave it in my cart too

i own programming socks

like 8

[cerulean lance]

docker containers are a lie by harddrive companies to sell more hard drives

[somber leaf]

cute

[pseudo karma]

[somber leaf]

docker is a lie to sell more ram

[pseudo karma]

black with white stripes

white with black

[somber leaf]

based

[pseudo karma]

pink white stripes

uhhh

[cyan cove]

i need sum >.<

[pseudo karma]

blue with white stripes

[cyan cove]

i dont want any1 to SEEEEEE though thatd be strange T_T

[pseudo karma]

orange and black stripes

[lime talon]

true
literally only the /dp/{number} is needed, not even the product name in the url

[pseudo karma]

pink and blue stripes

[elder geyser]

docker is a lieto sell more containers

[bold wren]

bro just saying random colors

[pseudo karma]

fawn im listing my programmer sock colors

you nincompoop

[bold wren]

right

[elder geyser]

haiii fawn

[somber leaf]

docker is a lie to developers about scaling

[last sky]

[bold wren]

docker is awesome i love docker docker is amazing

[pseudo karma]

vencord is a lie created by vee to sell more vendor

[elder geyser]

i hate k8s

[somber leaf]

i dont care how many edge servers you have if your database cant handle 12 million requests a hour

[pseudo karma]

edge

[bold wren]

never used and don't see a reason to

[somber leaf]

youre the brainrot in this server

[cerulean lance]

https://docker-minecraft-server.readthedocs.io/ my beloved

[bold wren]

hi julie btw

[desert goblet]

holy shit

[pseudo karma]

itll only get worse if im kept aroun longer

[desert goblet]

this is everything i ever needed

[somber leaf]

There is a better one that supports mods

[somber leaf]

vban @pseudo karma

[cerulean lance]

there's a bad one?

[pseudo karma]

fail

[desert goblet]

i found a site that lets you see someones system info and whose fronting

https://pluralkit.xyz/f/pyyow

[pseudo karma]

not clicking that link

[cerulean lance]

now remove the last n

[bold wren]

frontig

[desert goblet]

frontig?

[bold wren]

ur so dumb

[lapis lava]

this looks like racist word

[cerulean lance]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/859795873915207721.gif?size=64

[pseudo karma]

it does

[desert goblet]

tf does that word mean

[desert goblet]

also ok lol

[cerulean lance]

second to last n

[pseudo karma]

DO NOT

[paper gate]

@bold wren

[lapis lava]

@paper gate

[elder geyser]

it sucks ass

[bold wren]

so the first n

ur so so dumb

[lime talon]

this website used to have a different domain, i remember

they still reference the old one on the page title of the root

[pseudo karma]

after 4 long hours of coding (i downloaded a discord bot template) my work has finally payed off!! (i forked a discord bot and changed profile n username) !!!

[somber leaf]

what language/discord lib?

[pseudo karma]

ion got a clue

umm

i go on the youtube

[desert goblet]

neat
unfortunately i (girlfriend) dont know anything about whatever you talked about

[pseudo karma]

search "discord bot 2024 free up 24/7"

[cyan cove]

whqat does 'fronting' mean

[cyan cove]

yayyyy replit T_T

[pseudo karma]

and now i have a discord bot thats only up if my computer is up

[desert goblet]

it means im the one in charge of the body 😈

[pseudo karma]

I LOVE REPLIT

[lime talon]

domain used to be pk.fulmine.xyz

[desert goblet]

(kinda deadass)

[desert goblet]

oh word

[cyan cove]

i wish replit didnt delete my minecraft java browser in web project💔

[fallow drum]

you’re just jealous you don’t have any knee socks 🙄

[bold wren]

yea

[pseudo karma]

why did replit o that

[fallow drum]

loser lol

[lime talon]

yeah
dev must have forgotten to change it

[cyan cove]

idk piracy LOL

[desert goblet]

i just like this site cuz its useful for people like us

and for other people who r curious on things

[pseudo karma]

oh my god i just found my old (2 weeks ago) usb stick of minecraft clients LOL

[bold wren]

if only i had a rich american friend that lives in missouri and cares about my well being

[lime talon]

it's a nice site, yeah, think there are alternatives but we haven't looked

[real skiff]

kfogjokfgdn

[pseudo karma]

I HAVE HAD MY ROBO WALK ON SEARCHING FOR NETHERITE FOR THE PAST 8 HOURS AND I HAVENT FOUND SHIT

[bold wren]

https://tenor.com/view/happy-birthday-gif-25043010

[somber leaf]

this is akward to read

[cyan cove]

robo?? ? ?/ ?

[pseudo karma]

yeah zy im using meteor client

its auto walk set on robo mode

[cyan cove]

smh just play the game

[pseudo karma]

sometimes you gotta link up with the pookies on the discord vc and u cant do both

never saying that again

[cyan cove]

T_T ill let it go for now

[pseudo karma]

one scrap of netherite

[cyan cove]

use beds !!!

[pseudo karma]

IM 90 THOUSAND BLOCKS AWAY FROM MY PORTAL

I DONT HAVE OBI

[bold wren]

minecraft is banned btw stop ti

[rapid aurora]

mc is banned?

[bold wren]

yea

[pseudo karma]

im playing it rn to

tho*

[bold wren]

ur getting banned

[pseudo karma]

ion care

[rapid aurora]

don't freak out guys

but

[lime talon]

you clearly do not know how to find netherite

[rapid aurora]

i dont have mc

[pseudo karma]

freak

NEVO I AM FREAKING OUT.

[winter girder]

whats yalls fav banana?

[rapid aurora]

WOW

[fallow drum]

oddly specific but only if you did

maybe they’d get you knee socks