🧊-off-topic-iceman-only

[open pasture]

hi

[solar patrol]

Unintentionally spreading misinformation on the internet versus intentionally spreading misinformation on the internet

[edgy storm]

pardon me then

[solar patrol]

Hii

[storm cedar]

The Russians did invade Finland and they had a fairly brutal war

if you're wondering why that comment didn't go down well, that's the most simple way to explain why

[paper gate]

@burnt maple hiii

[edgy storm]

two brutal nations in a not less brutal war

if i had a task to get bad reputation here that sure would be a checkmate✓

[storm cedar]

That war was rather brutal but the Finns were not the aggressors, stop tryna imply they're the same

[open pasture]

meowemwoemwoemowmeowmewmoewmemwememmeowmeommewolemowme

[edgy storm]

im very sorry for goofing around

[cursive hornet]

Purposely acts in a stupid manner that gets themselves hated
Also says #🧊-off-topic-iceman-only message

[sharp jay]

@paper gate what is a firetruck

[edgy storm]

i was going to ask that

i was going to ask that

[paper gate]

truck that sets things on fire

[sharp jay]

Sorry

Im sorry

[sharp jay]

Tha nks

[edgy storm]

the fact i sent the message twice is fully discord's fault

[echo bronze]

I am a furry

[echo bronze]

Soviets, not Russians

It's an important distinction to make

[storm cedar]

it is

my bad

[echo bronze]

no worries

[edgy storm]

hopefully in the future i wont be that silly

[paper gate]

idk

[edgy storm]

and it should be this way, they really are

not even denying i am

[sharp jay]

why are you

[echo bronze]

we all aren't

you're just really fucking annoying

[edgy storm]

(but surely not because im a furry)

[solar patrol]

Nah he’s just an annoying guy I know plenty that aren’t furry

[stone owl]

Should have been orange

[sharp jay]

howdoget imgi perms

[echo bronze]

be regular

[sharp jay]

Ah

[remote panther]

gay people!

[sharp jay]

its over

[echo bronze]

girlnerd

[remote panther]

tomorrow morning! 10 am!

[echo bronze]

she/they girlnerd?

[remote panther]

✅

[jaunty trellis]

[echo bronze]

I love ur site

[edgy storm]

so sorry

[remote panther]

✅✅

[sharp jay]

Its over

[remote panther]

thanks :3

[jaunty trellis]

[open pasture]

hello

[echo bronze]

well like, you can be better at it

[echo bronze]

i love gayass girltwink

[sharp jay]

Can I just bribe venbot instead

[sharp jay]

Horror

Jumpscare

[edgy storm]

the fact i failed to be good here says otherwise

[remote panther]

boo!

[echo bronze]

Shut up

[paper gate]

@sharp jay meow

[sharp jay]

I physically cringed

[dull anvil]

meow

[sharp jay]

Meo

[jaunty trellis]

[echo bronze]

What is a girlfailure

[cursive hornet]

People like you are the reason why I outwardly refuse to portray myself as a furry.
Do better

[remote panther]

[storm cedar]

my head still hurts from the tin can thingy

[edgy storm]

im not a girl but surely a failure

[echo bronze]

I am both a girl and a failure

[echo bronze]

evangelion reference

[paper gate]

@fair zodiac

[echo bronze]

tree of life lookin ass

[edgy storm]

i wouldnt show that off if i didnt want to annoy people with it

[remote panther]

repost if

[cursive hornet]

Accurate ram insertion experience

[storm cedar]

That fucking DDR1 ram

[sharp jay]

4

[fair zodiac]

i have ddr4

[sharp jay]

yea

[fair zodiac]

LOL

[paper gate]

https://imgur.com/3SvtVR8

[storm cedar]

he didn't even start it with a screwdriver

[fair zodiac]

its one of those where if you click it

it has audio

[paper gate]

click the cat one @fair zodiac

[cursive hornet]

I dislike ddr5 because now when I upgrade I have to get new everything instead of keeping my decade old ddr4 ram

[paper gate]

@cursive hornet f54

[solar patrol]

FMA reference?

[fair zodiac]

my ears

are dead

[cursive hornet]

Zeet please kill java

[paper gate]

okay

[storm cedar]

I'm running on DDR3 because I've yet to upgrade

[errant ember]

What a smooth gif, looks great on high refresh rate monitors.

[edgy storm]

looks accurate

[fair zodiac]

it isn't a gif

in fact

it's a video

click it

and you get sound

[errant ember]

Video disguised as gif?

[fallow pawn]

@sudden sun

[errant ember]

I remember one platform that does that thing

[cursive hornet]

Very common

[fair zodiac]

every tenor gif is that

on discord

[edgy storm]

i am surprised

[fair zodiac]

nop

[errant ember]

Not smooth as that one

[storm cedar]

I have DDR4 laptops laying around, just paid 400$ for the entire PC

[errant ember]

I've seen worse, 30fps something

[cursive hornet]

Gif is a shit format but we disguise stuff as it because of name recognition

[jaunty trellis]

mhm

[errant ember]

Oh, I remember the platform

[errant ember]

It's gfycat

[cursive hornet]

Zeet please kill gif

[jaunty trellis]

why is gif so ass of a format

[open pasture]

Calm down everyone, i eated gif

[errant ember]

But I wonder why gfycat was taken down, I didn't even had chance to backup my gifs there. I was so late to hear the news

[cursive hornet]

When will I be able to upload animated webp as my profile background

[fair zodiac]

isn't gif like the only image format that was able to be used properly on the internet way in the early internet

[open pasture]

NEVER

[fair zodiac]

because dial up would take millennia to download anything else

[paper gate]

woa

that looks nice

[jaunty trellis]

sounds about right

[cursive hornet]

Webp is an objectively better format than png, jpg, gif

[edgy storm]

there is no god, my existence is a good proof

[paper gate]

okay

[open pasture]

Google spy

[fallow pawn]

ty

[paper gate]

yw :3

[open pasture]

jfif is better

[paper gate]

@open pasture

[open pasture]

@paper gate

[paper gate]

your nickname is cool

[open pasture]

Thanks

[jaunty trellis]

pls can we just replace gif with webp

[paper gate]

yop

[cursive hornet]

Jxl is very cool but eh

[jaunty trellis]

thank

[edgy storm]

tessie pinkman

[storm cedar]

Don't you start talking breaking bad

[stone owl]

https://tenor.com/view/well-done-jesse-yes-pinkman-yes-breaking-bad-gif-27528539

[storm cedar]

I'll have an aneurism

[cursive hornet]

I would be surprised if Google, who have to store so much, didn't have the best image format

[stone owl]

Too late the flood gates have opened

https://tenor.com/view/walter-white-crying-sad-hammed-burger-frown-gif-17903574

[solar patrol]

Bam hurger

[storm cedar]

*arghhh using Sudafed and RP is inferior to P2P

[stone owl]

rergub demmaH

[open pasture]

😭😭

[jaunty trellis]

either you have too much hope for google or you're delusional

[cursive hornet]

They also have the best compression, brotli, which is even more underrated than webp

[stone owl]

Hob

[acoustic crest]

Anyone can help me make a theme pls do dm me tyy

[jaunty trellis]

a lot of google shit has the majority marketshare but most of it is still mid

[cursive hornet]

Google being shit/evil Doesn't change the fact that

• webp > everything else
• brotli > everything else

[acoustic crest]

I dh money

[stone owl]

That’s why bing better

[jaunty trellis]

that's worse

[stone owl]

Nuh uh

[fair zodiac]

jpeg xl > webp

🗿

[cursive hornet]

Marketshare has nothing to do with some formats/compression techniques being objectively better

[fair zodiac]

i have zero clue about brotli

[cursive hornet]

I have no arguments against that. It's a shame we didn't get jpegxl

[paper gate]

mugman bomb

[storm cedar]

you can use cinnamon as a precursor to make meth

[jaunty trellis]

what

[cursive hornet]

Brotli is a lossless data compression algorithm developed by Google

It is better compression ratio than everything
It takes less compute than stuff that comes close

[stone owl]

Is that a reference?

[acoustic crest]

Anyone can help me make a theme pls do dm me tyy

[jaunty trellis]

it's a jojo reference cuz I'm about to beat you up

[fair zodiac]

ya

but why don't they just use

regular jpeg

or just png

[storm cedar]

Its just a literal thing one could use to make methamphetamine

[acoustic crest]

why no one wantto hdlp me make a theme

[storm cedar]

granted its not by any means efficient or smart to use, but its possible

[acoustic crest]

Why must not br free

[cursive hornet]

Because webp is better according to their own graphic

[acoustic crest]

Pls make 1 for free

Pls

Idk how to makw

[fair zodiac]

they could use

avif

every current browser supports it

[cursive hornet]

Read context please

[solar patrol]

If I knew css I would look at the theme css and change it until it looked nice

[acoustic crest]

Exactly

[paper gate]

mugman real name ted

[cursive hornet]

This is about the format they are using after jxl dead

[cursive hornet]

Client theme is already in your vencord

Use

[fair zodiac]

even jpeg 2000 looks to be better than webp

[acoustic crest]

How

[cursive hornet]

Plugins tab

[solar patrol]

Isn’t this a support thing?

[acoustic crest]

Iw to get a customized theme

[stray siren]

@cursive hornet Ayy bro I figured you'd be the one to ask abot this: Do you/have you had a effect of where memories like echo through mind? I make a new memory, an it goes through my mind bouncing off of other past memories like how a sound echoes, and it amkes it feel like something happened before that never did. I can go to a place, meet someone, then later that day have an impending gut feeling of "That happened before." and it could feel like 10 years ago, or go further than the beginning of memory itself as if it were a past life.

[paper gate]

i can erase your memories

[fair zodiac]

jpeg xr is only supported by

[cursive hornet]

No it's dumb whitename asking for free labor thing, and me redirecting to use my plugin

[fair zodiac]

internet explorer....

terrorist

[cursive hornet]

Nop

[paper gate]

@fair zodiac are you a terrorist?

[stray siren]

Hmmm

Is very odd

[fair zodiac]

and pre-chromium edge

[fair zodiac]

is that

trump but older

[paper gate]

DELETE

[bold wren]

not rly just skinnier

he is that old

[paper gate]

@bold wren

[fair zodiac]

also

jpeg xl is supported by safari

and experimental in firefox

jpeg xl might be able to claw it's way back out of the grave that google dug

[cursive hornet]

We need Firefox to cut webp support and enable jxl support

[fair zodiac]

lmao

[paper gate]

@fair zodiac

[fair zodiac]

nop

[cursive hornet]

Ducko can do, he works at Firefox /s

[fair zodiac]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/959100204253065279/1097281006291144714/ezgif-1-70c814645d.gif

[jaunty trellis]

wait do they actually?

[fair zodiac]

who is ducko

[jaunty trellis]

ducc

[jaunty trellis]

woah

[acoustic crest]

youtube

[paper gate]

ducko destruction

[jaunty trellis]

[cursive hornet]

Ducko would never be in a bus lane

[fair zodiac]

@ ducko you should make jxl support non-experimental

[jaunty trellis]

[fair zodiac]

iirc animation support for jxl isn't implemented in firefox

yet

[jaunty trellis]

if ever

[fair zodiac]

also i think transparency is broken

but working somewhat

[cursive hornet]

The only reason I want jxl support is so I can have progressive decoding instead of dealing with thumbhash

[jaunty trellis]

I really hope someone revives the format but that might be a bit optimistic

[bold wren]

ion care cuh

[cursive hornet]

I only care about getting 100 in lighthouse benchmark so clients are happy

[cursive hornet]

If we fork and name something less dumb then it will happen

[jaunty trellis]

real

now come up with a decent name

[cursive hornet]

jpg 2

[fair zodiac]

jpeg 2

real

[jaunty trellis]

sure why not

[cursive hornet]

j2g

[jaunty trellis]

java to golang

[fair zodiac]

NO

[fair zodiac]

kotlin to java

[cursive hornet]

Java to ash

No java

[jaunty trellis]

java will disappear

poof

[fair zodiac]

what programming langs compile to java bytecode

ik there's

java, ash, and kotlin

[jaunty trellis]

scala I think

[fair zodiac]

horror

[paper gate]

@bold wren buh

[fair zodiac]

there's probably some ts to java bytecode

[jaunty trellis]

mhm

[cursive hornet]

Wait ash is real?
I was asking to destroy java, not have another use of Java bytecode

[fair zodiac]

lol

[cursive hornet]

@ duck please add to Porrfor

[fair zodiac]

yeah it is

[paper gate]

diy ducko

[fair zodiac]

:p

[jaunty trellis]

just remove the jdk and jvm from existence pls and ty

[fair zodiac]

love

[fair zodiac]

why did that

not copy

Scala source code can be compiled to Java bytecode

[jaunty trellis]

weee

[fair zodiac]

Scala, Kotlin, Ceylon, Visage, Groovy, JRuby, Mirah, Jython, Jaskell, etc. all compile directly to bytecode.

WHY

[jaunty trellis]

oh yeah groovy is a thing

was?

idk if anyone still uses that

[fair zodiac]

is

[cursive hornet]

J ruby as in java ruby?

[fair zodiac]

yes

[cursive hornet]

Is it like 1-1 with normal ruby

[fair zodiac]

jvm implementation of ruby

https://www.jruby.org/

website looks like it's from 2012

good start

[jaunty trellis]

I doubt it's 1 to 1 but probably not far

[fair zodiac]

they claim it's

ruby 3.1 compatible

[jaunty trellis]

woah

[fair zodiac]

LOL

LOOK AT HOW OLD

THOSE IMAGES ARE

[jaunty trellis]

husk

[jaunty trellis]

damn

[cursive hornet]

That style is kinda coming back hard.
Look at fly.io/gemma

[storm cedar]

why is that the important part

[paper gate]

I love kotlin

[fair zodiac]

macos x 10.5

windows vista

and idk

that's leopard

not snow leopard

[jaunty trellis]

[cursive hornet]

I literally only recognize the macOS one

[fair zodiac]

how do you not

recognize the middle

that's vista

bottom left

that one's snow leopard

[cursive hornet]

I was a Mac kid. Switched to windows later

[fair zodiac]

oh lol

[fair zodiac]

when did you switch

[cursive hornet]

I only ever used 8 and 10

[fair zodiac]

8 or 8.1?

8.1 has a start button

8 doesn't

[cursive hornet]

8

[fair zodiac]

https://betawiki.net/images/e/eb/Windows8-RTM-Desktop.png

https://betawiki.net/images/8/8e/Windows_8_Start_Screen.png

[cursive hornet]

I hate win 8 because the fucking that

Awful

[fair zodiac]

8/8.1's ui design is okay but the ux is

bruh

[jaunty trellis]

[fair zodiac]

https://betawiki.net/images/a/a8/Windows81-RTM-Desktop.png

8.1

[cursive hornet]

8.1 is basically just 10 from what I have seen

[fair zodiac]

nop

it's basically 8

but

new settings app

and start button

https://betawiki.net/images/9/9e/StartScreen960017031.png

still has the start screen

[jaunty trellis]

doesn't that already exist upstream

[fair zodiac]

EXCEPT for windows rt 8.1 update 3 (for surface rt devices only)

https://betawiki.net/images/4/40/Windows8.1-6.3.9600.17415-StartMenu.png

[jaunty trellis]

why does it look like that

ew

that's like the ugly middle child between 10 and 7

tbf that's what it is but

[fair zodiac]

that was the original plan for windows 10 as well

https://betawiki.net/images/d/d1/Windows_7_Betas-2017-02-11-17-56-34.png

windows 10 build 9879

[jaunty trellis]

husk

3rd party wms for windows when

[cursive hornet]

Aydrix when will win 11 LTSC come

[jaunty trellis]

never

[fair zodiac]

then it turned into

https://betawiki.net/images/e/e2/9926StartMenu.png

????????????????????

[jaunty trellis]

[cursive hornet]

It already leak, but I need a stable one

[fair zodiac]

https://betawiki.net/images/7/7d/Windows10-10.0.10240-StartMenu.png and then

???????????????????????????????????????????????

[jaunty trellis]

wtf was the ui team smocking

[cursive hornet]

What did the full screen buttton du

[jaunty trellis]

opens the win8 menu

probably

idfk

[fair zodiac]

nop

https://betawiki.net/images/b/bb/Win10-v1607StartScreen.png

this

off brand start screen

[jaunty trellis]

HORROR

[cursive hornet]

100% I could get my win10 start to look like that

I'm not desktop rn

[fair zodiac]

they decided to smoke less crack in windows 10 1607

because it's

a bit better

https://betawiki.net/images/c/c8/Win10-v1607darkmode.png

i have

no screenshot of the start menu

hold on

[cursive hornet]

Windows UI/UX team is always on crack

[fair zodiac]

my windows 10 1607 vm

[jaunty trellis]

I never actually realised how bad windows ui was before seeing what you can do with linux or macos

[cursive hornet]

Normal windows after you get rid of the start tiles they want to feed you

[fair zodiac]

yeah its actually fine

once you remove the bullshit

ignore the mess that is my desktop

[jaunty trellis]

horror

[fair zodiac]

(also the titlebar is supposed to have blur, screenshot tools don't like it idk why)

[cursive hornet]

Ngl after using Linux for 8 months I came back to windows very happy

[fair zodiac]

i installed mint and went running back to windows

mint is horrible first choice

[cursive hornet]

Manjaro worse first choice

[fair zodiac]

true

[jaunty trellis]

I've had to use windows on my school laptop and I honestly couldn't go back to it on my main rig

[fair zodiac]

yop

[cursive hornet]

Will windows 11 LTSC have copilot crammed into it?

[jaunty trellis]

probably

[cursive hornet]

Darn

[fair zodiac]

it just didn't show before windows 8 because bill gates would always yell at them if they did stupid shit

please do not the manjaro

[paper gate]

man jar

[fair zodiac]

i am considering artix with kde 6

[jaunty trellis]

manjaro shouldn't be allowed to exist anymore

[fair zodiac]

NO

[paper gate]

@fair zodiac

[cursive hornet]

Proton still sucked (pre steam deck)
Missed paint.NET
And manjaro being manjaro

[fair zodiac]

you will

krita

immediately

[fallow drum]

if you value your time and can’t spend eight hours a day on a pc then linux is not an option

sadly

[paper gate]

rosie dum

[cursive hornet]

Please tell me what kitra is

[fallow drum]

nop

zt so mean

kms now

[paper gate]

@fallow drum hii

[fair zodiac]

https://krita.org/en/

[fallow drum]

can’t believe he would say something like that to me

[paper gate]

@fallow drum Hello Robert

[fair zodiac]

it's supposed to be for drawing but it also works for other types of images editing as well

[cursive hornet]

I'm generally not willing to learn other image editing software because I'm very fast in paint.net

[jaunty trellis]

I actually use krita for drawing

[jaunty trellis]

I just suck at drawing still

[paper gate]

im covered in gristle

[cursive hornet]

Too complex
My image editor only needs very basic functionality

[jaunty trellis]

how basic

[sly spear]

Does this go hard

[paper gate]

yes

[jaunty trellis]

very

[cursive hornet]

Blur, outline, text, arrow, crop

[bold wren]

@paper gate

[fair zodiac]

apparently there's an open source image editor inspired by paint.net

called pinta

https://www.pinta-project.com/

[bold wren]

zt such a bottom

[jaunty trellis]

fancy

[cursive hornet]

I will try

[toxic vessel]

hey

[jaunty trellis]

haii

[fallow drum]

hey

[fair zodiac]

oh also they're shifting to a newer ui framework

the current version uses

gtk2

[sand citrus]

gimp with mspaint color picker

[jaunty trellis]

husk

[fair zodiac]

gimp uses modified gtk2

but gimp is gimp

[jaunty trellis]

they're moving to 3 soontm

[fair zodiac]

please do not the gimp until they get their stuff together

[jaunty trellis]

it's been delayed like how many months now

[fair zodiac]

LOL

[jaunty trellis]

wait wtf is a tiff image format

[fair zodiac]

useless

[fallow drum]

hey girl should i buy the vision pro @bold wren

[fair zodiac]

that's what it is

[jaunty trellis]

literally never heard of it

[fallow drum]

you would love so much

[sand citrus]

awesome

[cursive hornet]

I would appreciate if editor supported nerd color formats like oklch

[stone owl]

not worth it

[fair zodiac]

why do you need that

in a basic image editor

what

[jaunty trellis]

wait fuck

[cursive hornet]

Planning color pallets

[stone owl]

hypershiggy

[fair zodiac]

well

[jaunty trellis]

today is a sunday

[stone owl]

monday

[fair zodiac]

https://tryitands.ee/

[jaunty trellis]

;-;

[fair zodiac]

also

[jaunty trellis]

the shop opens at 10

[fair zodiac]

paint.net is one of those programs which absolutely REFUSE to run in wine

[cursive hornet]

Today is Saturday

[jaunty trellis]

why are you living in the past

[cursive hornet]

I remember trying for ages yea

[stone owl]

nuh uh today is monday

[cursive hornet]

Better timezone

[jaunty trellis]

worst tz

[fair zodiac]

absolutely broken to hell and back

on wine

[jaunty trellis]

whack

tbf makes sense since almost all other microsoft apps also refuse to run on wine

[cursive hornet]

Please explain difference between wine and proton and why proton hasn't completely replaced wine

[fair zodiac]

???????????

[fair zodiac]

proton is a fork of wine that is only for steam

they don't intend on making it for anything other than steam games

[jaunty trellis]

proton is wine with game/gaming specific patches that upstream doesn't need or want

[cursive hornet]

Ah

[fair zodiac]

it also completely nukes macos support

[cursive hornet]

How can a general compatibility patch be game specific

Wait does it have per game hacks to make it work?

[fair zodiac]

yes

[jaunty trellis]

mhm

[cursive hornet]

Ew

[fair zodiac]

there's things that are enabled/disabled for specific games

iirc

[jaunty trellis]

yop

[fair zodiac]

that's why they tell you do not use it for anything else

lol

[cursive hornet]

I will run paint.NET in proton

[jaunty trellis]

real

I'm gonna try that brb

wait

[fair zodiac]

it will completely crash

[jaunty trellis]

I cba to get out of bed yet

it's 7.41

[cursive hornet]

Cba

[sand citrus]

u get up at 7 am i go to sleep at 7 am we are not the same

[fair zodiac]

you could try paint.net 4.0.x on wine 9.x

[jaunty trellis]

I uh

haven't slept

[fair zodiac]

that's probably the only thing that could maybe work

[sand citrus]

oh cool me neither

[fair zodiac]

latest paint.net definitely will not work

[sand citrus]

but im 1 hr behind

i do want to sleep soon tho

[jaunty trellis]

I'm not gonna eep and fix my slep schedule

[cursive hornet]

Does battleye/eac support Linux/proton yet?

That's a big deal for me switching to linux

[jaunty trellis]

usually yes

[sand citrus]

im p sure those are native on linux

at least one of them

[cursive hornet]

Usually?

[sand citrus]

i highly doubt that they work on a compat layer lmao

only native

[jaunty trellis]

if the game dev enabled linux support on them yes

battle bit remastered for example works perfectly with proton and it used eac

[fair zodiac]

ya

both do

roblox will work on wine as well btw

tho that's only relevant to people who play roblox

[sand citrus]

sorta surprising since thats got an anticheat but its not ring0 tho

[fair zodiac]

it depends on the game developer though

well

not talking about roblox btw

[jaunty trellis]

there's a page called are we anticheat yet

[fair zodiac]

it depends on the game developer if they enabled the linux support in battleye or eac

[noble quest]

WHAR

https://host.sadanslargehole.com/u/1WD5d5.png

[fallow drum]

wdym? since when does it? only a year ago they were struggling to get the roblox player to work via wine

[fair zodiac]

least clickbait thumbnail

[fair zodiac]

they had hyperion's linux support disabled

[noble quest]

i love dearrow

[fallow drum]

the developer of synapse got studio to work but player was not

[fair zodiac]

because the win64 client shit itself on wine

they recently enabled linux support in hyperion

and it works fine

[fallow drum]

well either way you wouldn’t want to because there will always be the chance of a random ban from a game or roblox itself

because roblox runs at a kernel level

[fair zodiac]

it doesn't actually

it's entirely user mode

:3

[fallow drum]

nuh uh

[sand citrus]

?

[fair zodiac]

roblox staff have stated it's entirely user mode

it just uses windows jank a lot

[cursive hornet]

The 3 games I play right now work well on proton so I now no longer have that excuse for not Linux

[fair zodiac]

which makes compat layers really not like it

[fallow drum]

oh okay a lot has changed as of late ig

[fair zodiac]

no it was ALWAYS user mode

it was never kernel level

[sand citrus]

^

[cursive hornet]

What is a good entry Linux

I basically only use steam discord and vscode

[fair zodiac]

i think artix provides a good starting point with a basic install with a DE?

and it doesn't require configuring everything yourself

[jaunty trellis]

husk

[fair zodiac]

but you'd probably need to know some stuff to get everything working

so

fedora?

[jaunty trellis]

do not artix as your first distro

[fair zodiac]

well

[sand citrus]

ur recommending artix as an entry distro?

[fair zodiac]

yeah

[jaunty trellis]

just stick to fedora

[cursive hornet]

Would be my third

[fair zodiac]

don't typically

it at least provides a gui installer

for a basic environment with a DE

[jaunty trellis]

it's still arch without systemd

[fair zodiac]

ya

but arch has like

documentation about everything under the sun

[cursive hornet]

I need a good package manager and I still have nightmares about pacman

[fair zodiac]

i just want

fedora minus systemd

[jaunty trellis]

manjaro moment

[fair zodiac]

if that ever existed

then okay

but afaik there is no fedora forks without systemd

[cursive hornet]

Maybe it's just manjaro

[fair zodiac]

which is insane

[fair zodiac]

it is

[cursive hornet]

What the fuck is systemd

[fair zodiac]

manjaro actually just sucks

[fair zodiac]

the init system

[storm cedar]

Suggest a simple linux distro challange

[cursive hornet]

That does not help

[fair zodiac]

(systemd SUCKS as an init system but everybody uses it anyway)

[fallow drum]

i just recall the one github repo for the roblox studio on linux wine installation having mentioned that it works at kernel level but this was a couple of years back so i assume it’s just it was misunderstood then. but back then it was literally impossible because most anti cheat in most games see wine as a cheat because of the way it interacts with the roblox player

but that’s all i recall of that whole thing

[fair zodiac]

lmao no

it does not

[fallow drum]

this was a long time ago when people were still trying to figure it out

[cursive hornet]

Please help further clarity this, as it means absolutely nothing to me

[fallow drum]

and i remember when it first released on linux but it was recommended to never use it on a primary account because it would likely result in a ban

[fair zodiac]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Systemd

initialization system, service manager, etc

[sand citrus]

it probably shouldnt unless u wanna be a nerd about the os ur using

[fair zodiac]

systemd is quite bloated

so it kind of sucks

[sand citrus]

nerd

[jaunty trellis]

it's not that bad

[fair zodiac]

yeah but like

i tried a non-systemd distro

[fallow drum]

but tbf the entirety of synapse is just skids and idiots so can’t really take anything they say legitimately

[fair zodiac]

it booted like 3 million times faster

than distros with systemd

[storm cedar]

if you're saying x is better cause it doesn't use init, elaborating isn't that far fetched

[sand citrus]

users sure but the devs are pretty damn smart

[fallow drum]

gotta give props to the sole developer having made $5,000,000+ on it though but they’re stupid

[cursive hornet]

This is written in Linux nerd, which I am far from far from fluent in

[fair zodiac]

lol

[cursive hornet]

Please explain what the fuck these are in non Linux nerd speak

[fallow drum]

it’s certainly not worth the money

[paper gate]

guh I hate feeling lonely

[fallow drum]

zt

[paper gate]

@fallow drum @fallow drum

[sand citrus]

20 bucks one time purchase :p

[fallow drum]

so insane

[sand citrus]

it really isnt

[jaunty trellis]

my arch with systemd boots in 10 seconds compared to the 8 I get with a non systemd distro

[sand citrus]

things been dead for a while now anyway so

[storm cedar]

how often do you have to boot lmao

[fair zodiac]

it's

[sand citrus]

everyday

[fair zodiac]

a lot more noticable when running under a vm

and stuff like that

because modern hardware will just power through stuff like it's nothing

[sand citrus]

just like me !

[jaunty trellis]

once a day maybe 2 if I update and reboot

boot times literally don't matter to me

[fair zodiac]

it also affects not just boot time but also how the os works in general and how efficient it is

[fallow drum]

i remember when somebody reverse engineered all of the cheats and made an anti cheat that detected the cheats being used and then banned upon injection

[cursive hornet]

So it doesn't matter for a os I am using on a actual computer

[jaunty trellis]

nop

[sand citrus]

vac does that

[fallow drum]

i still wonder where that person is today

[sand citrus]

sort of

[fair zodiac]

VAC is the only one that will actually ban you on detection

[cursive hornet]

Given that I don't care about systemd, what is a good Linux distro

[fair zodiac]

which is insane btw

[fallow drum]

he was getting paid $20,000 a month at the time and he was 15 but that was 4 years ago

[sand citrus]

nope

[jaunty trellis]

fedora

[fallow drum]

i wonder if he ever went through with whathe was doing

[sand citrus]

most of the time it just lowers ur trust factor

[paper gate]

hi

[sand citrus]

unless its 100% sure

vac is kinda cool its just a shame that its so easy to get around

[fallow drum]

he was getting paid by somebody who wanted to make a free cheat that combined every single paid cheat into one

good times

back when i first joined discord 🥲

[jaunty trellis]

hhh 2 hours still

[sand citrus]

left

[fallow drum]

left

[sand citrus]

lol i think there were multiple actually but not sure

at least one tho yea

a lot of ppl shit on vac but it does the best it can imo

[cursive hornet]

Donk next major /s

[sand citrus]

for a user mode ac

[fair zodiac]

lol it is funny how roblox's hyperion absolutely DESTROYED every single cheat for roblox

[fair zodiac]

and they completely got rid of the leading cheat for roblox, synapse x

[fallow drum]

the roblox cheat community as a whole consists of the dumbest people on this platform tbh

[sand citrus]

some still exist, even low quality ones

[fair zodiac]

and they joined roblox to help them go AGAINST cheats

[stone owl]

fr

[sand citrus]

i saw a paid cheat that used an injector off of github and dogshit security

[fair zodiac]

and then they reenabled wine support in hyperion

and now it works fine

recently-ish

it works fine on wine

now

yeah it doesn't require custom patches anymore

[fallow drum]

i was actually pretty active in the community for awhile and actually met some really smart people but all of those people weren’t in communities like synapse lmao those people are idiots

i was actually very close to somebody who nuked the synapse server at one point

[cursive hornet]

Looking into it, I am not willing to use a Linux that does not have apt because several packages my work relies on are exclusive to it I am a coward

Is Debian a sensible choice?

[fallow drum]

yop

best choice

[fair zodiac]

just use unstable

nop

linux mint

[cursive hornet]

Why unstable?

[fair zodiac]

SUCKED

for me

[fair zodiac]

stable becomes quite out of date after a while

it's a very long support/slow release distro

meanwhile unstable is practically rolling release

[cursive hornet]

What does that mean for me besides just not updating often

[fair zodiac]

it means all the packages and such on the system won't really be updated

at all

[fallow drum]

outdated

[fair zodiac]

except for security updates

and bug fixes

so just

use debian unstable

[cursive hornet]

Is this something a web developer would ever even notice?

[fair zodiac]

probably

some things might just flat out not install

later on

because the release cycle is that slow on stable

[fallow drum]

catgirl

[paper gate]

you

[fallow drum]

yop

[paper gate]

be Rosie

[fallow drum]

zt so cute

yop

[paper gate]

NOP

[sand citrus]

mine

[fallow drum]

zt is so right

[paper gate]

I'm not cute

[fallow drum]

be rosie

[cursive hornet]

Is there a medium between unstable and normal that isn't insane in the frequency of updates?

[fallow drum]

everything is better as rosie

[cursive hornet]

I'd rather not live on a bleeding edge

[fair zodiac]

debian testing

[storm cedar]

Just out of curiosity, what makes PopOS so unpopular

[fallow drum]

use rocky linux

[paper gate]

nop

[fallow drum]

yop

we use for school

[paper gate]

Rocky Linux was missing many packages I needed

[storm cedar]

not very but ty regardles

[fallow drum]

how

[paper gate]

idk

[fallow drum]

i actually kinda like it tbh

[cursive hornet]

It's sold as a product to normal people instead of nerds and nerds don't like normal people

[paper gate]

@fallow drum

[fallow drum]

i think it’s pretty good for what it’s meant to be

[fair zodiac]

Testing has more up-to-date software than Stable, and it breaks less often than Unstable.

[fallow drum]

how did you find my address

[cursive hornet]

Perfect

[storm cedar]

I tried using debian and have used Tails sporadically

[paper gate]

my aliucord plugins

[fallow drum]

NOP

[paper gate]

yopp

[fallow drum]

that’s my old address

i haven’t used an android in a year

silly zt

i moved a few months ago

[paper gate]

it spread across your devices

[fallow drum]

make enmity plugins and you will find me

[paper gate]

never

[fallow drum]

soon

[cursive hornet]

Is Debian sane?

• global dark mode
• tiling window manager

[fair zodiac]

debian does not having tiling wm

[storm cedar]

But POP-OS was pretty easy to install and worked fine for gaming without too much messing around in my experience

[fallow drum]

debian is your best choice end of story you won’t want to use anything else

[fair zodiac]

just don't use stable

[cursive hornet]

Ok

I will try

[storm cedar]

I'm not shilling it, just mentioning why I stuck to it for a little bit

Burned Debian to a DVD before that :P

[fallow drum]

like tbh the variety is cool and all but no linux distribution does it all better than debian in my experience, at least if you’re wanting to get a professional experience and not have to mess around a lot

[fair zodiac]

there's also devuan

for debian without systemd

there's no diffs other than that

[cursive hornet]

As established, I don't think systemd is something that matters to me

Thanks though

[paper gate]

debian for desktop is horrid

it's ok for server usage

[cursive hornet]

How

[paper gate]

out of date 500 years

[storm cedar]

This is stunningly unhelpful

[cursive hornet]

Debian testing branch

Testing has more up-to-date software than Stable, and it breaks less often than Unstable.

[storm cedar]

its a simple question, but the answers are rather varied

[fallow drum]

yeah it can be depending in what you want out of it but really for what they’re asking i don’t think anything would be better than debian or fedora

[paper gate]

untable

@fallow drum

[fallow drum]

@paper gate

[paper gate]

@fallow drum full moon tonight
you know what that means

[fair zodiac]

maybe i should try

devuan testing

hmmmmmm

[paper gate]

devuan

[cursive hornet]

For things that yeet systemd, what do they even replace with?

[fallow drum]

full moon every night apparently

[paper gate]

yes

[fair zodiac]

sysvinit, openrc

and a few others

[paper gate]

so bad

[fair zodiac]

oh

[paper gate]

@wide leaf

[fair zodiac]

yeah those two

runit and s6

[storm cedar]

Linux distro choices are quite a rabbit hole if you start looking into why people prefer certain things

Not complaining but looking up one question had me reading up on 2 more usually

[fallow drum]

yeah so i would say any of the main line distributions will be better unless you’re wanting to go down that rabbit hole

[fair zodiac]

there is a few distros which are just

[cursive hornet]

I like to avoid stuff like this because following it leads you down a path very few people follow.
That's fine until you have to diagnose a problem and no one else has ever seen it.

[fair zodiac]

mainline distro with some slight changes to remove some things that suck

real

[cursive hornet]

Debian testing so I don't die from random unstable package problem

[paper gate]

systemd hate is so dumb

[fair zodiac]

testing still suffers from it but much less often

[bold wren]

what's that

oh is that the apple vr thing

[fallow drum]

yop

[fair zodiac]

and it doesn't become significantly out of date at the end of it's life span like stable

[cursive hornet]

I can deal with it on occasion (1-2 months)

[fallow drum]

it’s $3,500

[bold wren]

you don't need to buy anything to look more re-dumb

[fair zodiac]

yeah that'll probably be fine

[fallow drum]

so mean

@bold wren hello

[bold wren]

i saw videos of people wearing it outside they automatically look deranged

[fallow drum]

can you be nice to me please

@bold wren hello???

be nice????

[bold wren]

[e-mail]#0000

[fair zodiac]

wait WHAT

[bold wren]

@fallow drum

[fair zodiac]

i didn't realize this

[fallow drum]

robert

[bold wren]

robert.faye

[fair zodiac]

but you can switch debian over to openrc or sysvinit manually

and it's officially supported

[paper gate]

@fallow drum buy me nitro

[fallow drum]

TRUE

[fallow drum]

NOP

[paper gate]

YES

[fallow drum]

i am broke after the $2,000 macbook

[paper gate]

you are so rich

WASTE

[fallow drum]

total W

[paper gate]

rosie so bad with money

[fair zodiac]

https://ianlecorbeau.github.io/blog/debian-bookworm-sysvinit.html

huh

[bold wren]

what do u do with ur money zt

[paper gate]

give to mugmaj

[fallow drum]

is this real?? @paper gate

[cursive hornet]

Can I go back?

[bold wren]

@winter needle ?

explain???

[winter needle]

i dont even remember sending that

that was so long ago

[paper gate]

fawner

[fallow drum]

i never replied

[winter needle]

lies

[fallow drum]

i didn’t reply

[bold wren]

u pee today? @fallow drum

[paper gate]

u pee today? @fallow drum

[winter needle]

u pee today? @fallow drum

[fallow drum]

no ….

[fallow drum]

yeah

[bold wren]

wow

[paper gate]

rosie is racist

[fallow drum]

day just started 30 minutes ago

[storm cedar]

using image perms to send dm's

[fallow drum]

don’t ask fawn about the pinned dm

real

[bold wren]

death by bladder explosion

[paper gate]

@bold wren tell

what's the pinned DM

[fallow drum]

you can’t send it here

literally would get us banned

[paper gate]

send it would be so hilarious

[winter needle]

fawn will show

[cursive hornet]

Send

[bold wren]

rosie is very frequently unironically racist against a certain group of minorities

[winter needle]

(me)

[fallow drum]

yeah it’s true

[jaunty trellis]

[paper gate]

🔥

[bold wren]

do you happen to be a person of color rushii

[winter needle]

no im a minority from the group of ushies

[fallow drum]

fawn is a person of color

[fallow drum]

i love

[jaunty trellis]

[paper gate]

@fallow drum

[fallow drum]

rate @paper gate

[cursive hornet]

Why on earth would you buy this

[jaunty trellis]

husk

[fallow drum]

omg it comes with a black braided cable too 🥺🥵😭

[bold wren]

she has mental issues

[cursive hornet]

Average apple fan

[fallow drum]

@bold wren you hate to see me happy

[jaunty trellis]

that's an understatement

[bold wren]

@fallow drum

[paper gate]

rosie needs to be lobotomized

@fallow drum https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1012362190449279037/1211199926269382726/IMG_1279.jpg?ex=65ed54d5&is=65dadfd5&hm=bf0ea5e3efc9ee0d3fc6ed7044ae9941c0742c8d41e25be77faebeb507f22f43&

[fallow drum]

i had an actual non apple reason to use this and it was actually primarily a pc reason

you all hate to see me winning

[paper gate]

rosie making up excuses

[cursive hornet]

Can you charge it while using it with that?

[paper gate]

rosie is joe biden

[jaunty trellis]

I think that happened already

[fallow drum]

despite what people say it never actually needs charged lol

[bold wren]

she cannot help it once she sees the bitten apple the cog in her mind goes crazy

[cursive hornet]

Please give

[fallow drum]

like once and then done

[bold wren]

CPNSUME CONSUME CONSUME

[paper gate]

what do we do

[bold wren]

time to put her down

[paper gate]

okay

[jaunty trellis]

[fallow drum]

zt and fawn hate to see me happy

we’re so over

[cursive hornet]

Believe it or not, you need to charge things that use battery every time the battery gets low

[storm cedar]

Rosie does have the best financial situation out of all of us I think

[bold wren]

never been more barrack

[fallow drum]

i mean tbf i put a battery in my last mouse three years ago haven’t changed it since still at 60%

[cursive hornet]

Not for long with how they spend money

[fallow drum]

but supposedly this mouse needs a charge very rarely, i’ve heard people going a couple of years not having to

this mouse was purely for convenience nothing else

[bold wren]

that walmart ice

[cursive hornet]

For what?

[storm cedar]

They are spending money and still seem fine lmao

[jaunty trellis]

you don't need to charge it if you don't use it

[paper gate]

rosie will mysteriously go offline one day

[fallow drum]

i needed one for my laptop so i could continue to easily access my pc with my other mouse and not have to move them back and forth

[storm cedar]

ngl it does sound like people are angy you use apple and spend apple price money for it

[paper gate]

@fallow drum

[bold wren]

i have a GAMING mouse with RGB LIGHTS because i'm a GAMER

[fallow drum]

so true fawn

i am going to kill muself

[paper gate]

rosie @fallow drum

[bold wren]

mb

[paper gate]

hey sis

could you lend me some money girly

[fair zodiac]

apparently there's actually 4 branches of debian

stable, testing, unstable, experimental

[fallow drum]

this mouse is also super comfy because of my semi tiny hands and is basically a touchpad but with the convenience of a mouse

[bold wren]

if it's comfortable for u that's all that matters but i'm gonna bully u regardless

even if i agree with u

[fair zodiac]

experimental is do not use ever unless you're testing stuff

[fallow drum]

also was like $50 less expensive than my other mouse

[paper gate]

after I get it from Rosie

[acoustic crest]

how to change discord font using google font in css file?

[storm cedar]

fuming..

[fallow drum]

mouses be like $150 and this one was $70

[paper gate]

rosie would spend $600 on a mouse

[acoustic crest]

how to change discord font using google font in css file?

[fallow drum]

yop

[fallow drum]

you hate me

[paper gate]

times new roman

[fallow drum]

comic sans

[storm cedar]

I would spend 600$ on dumber stuff

[fallow drum]

it’s georgia pro

[bold wren]

apple product! at a mildly expensive range! satisfsctory i gotta get it!

[paper gate]

rosie has rich person disease

@wide leaf mugman serif

[cursive hornet]

G pro wireless (best wireless mouse imo) is same price

[jaunty trellis]

mhm