What happens after we die?

[lone yarrow]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corpse_decomposition

hope this helped !

[undone cosmos]

The other common thing that happens, at least in some countries is cremation, when the body does not compose but is turned into ash.

Other less common things that can or have happened include being eaten by animals, mummification or vaporization in a nuclear explosion.

[copper plaza]

What is this question 🤣

[olive sage]

😂

so when we die our body is probably gonna be put in the ground

The end

[candid harbor]

"...the ones who love us will miss us" ~Keanu Reeves

I hope there to be an afterlife (especially Christian version) but if there is nothing I will not be surprised

[olive sage]

the Christian version has you as a mindless eternal worshiper of an evil god so ill pass

the reason you wont be surprised if there is nothing iz cus u wont be able to be surprised lol

[candid harbor]

How come you know so much about me?

[jagged cloud]

I don't know the original message was deleted 🧐

[olive sage]

not talking bout you im talking about the Christian heaven

[candid harbor]

Okay, I read your sentence wrong. However, this is your interpretation. General picture of Christian heaven promises eternal fulfillment which sounds quite cool.

[olive sage]

yea and no free will

[jagged cloud]

That's the case either way. I wouldn't mind "eternal fulfillment" whatever that means.

[olive sage]

lol

[somber elk]

Nothing happens.

[tribal wren]

Nothing happens I'm pretty sure but if it's what I want to happen I want the Norse to be right since the afterlife is merely just a transition from living to not and the afterlife is just an extension of our reality

The Hellenic afterlife would be fine as well

[olive sage]

I would be ok with nothing

[jagged cloud]

Of course you would; it would be nothing.

[dawn swallow]

Heaven hell or purgatory

[jagged cloud]

I don't care. I'll take whatever happens. It's just more of whatever.

[dawn swallow]

Na I was just saying those are the options in my eyes

[jagged cloud]

I know what you were saying. I was saying they're not options.

[bitter temple]

dude you chill in the astral dimension

[undone cosmos]

There is zero evidence any of those three places exist or any of us survives death to be able to experience these places.

[dawn swallow]

Ok, but I believe it to be true.

[mighty mulch]

You don’t even believe in free will in normal life lmao

[olive sage]

ok and

[mighty mulch]

So why make the point lol?

Also its very funny you think you will remain in any way similar to your material self in heaven. “Being bored” requires a mind. Its just souls, and likely “you’ll be one with God” is even more literal than one thinks.

[olive sage]

cuz you Christians believe in it of course, why else would i say that?

[mighty mulch]

Lol

[olive sage]

i dont understand why you keep acting like im a child 🤷‍♂️

[mighty mulch]

I’m not

[olive sage]

acting like what i believe is comedy

[mighty mulch]

Its funny sure but that isn’t to insult you

[undone cosmos]

So you are happy to believe something without any evidence. That is just wishful thinking.

[dawn swallow]

How do you know there is no evidence?

[undone cosmos]

@dawn swallow I have never seen any evidence that heaven, hell or purgatory exist. I also have seen no evidence that we in anyway survive death in a state where we can experience the effects of heaven, hell or purgatory. If you have evidence then please provide it.

[copper plaza]

To believe in heaven/hell whatever you must first accept that something like a soul exists

So its kinda a double assumption in that regard

both assuming we have a soul and if you have assumed we have a soul then you assume it goes somewhere after we die and that place is heaven/hell

Both of which there is 0 evidence for

On the contrary, there is a small bit of evidence for believing that there is not a soul

Though it is not much and from a very new branch of science

[undone cosmos]

@dawn swallow what is the picture meant to prove?

[hidden hearth]

I think we go to something, wether that be an afterlife, a second life or whatever. I just cant imagine we are here for nothing. Just infinite nothingness after death seems very stupid. I feel like there has to be something. What that is, I do not know.

[olive sage]

Just tell us why you believe what you believe

[olive sage]

You believe in heaven because you want it to be real?

[hidden hearth]

I never said that.

I said "I think we go to something" that can be anything.

[olive sage]

But why

U said it “seams stupid”

Sounds like wishful thinking to me

[undone cosmos]

This is wishful thinking. You don't want life to end so you believe some how it will continue. If you had a shred of evidence you would be able to give us more details

What about non-human animals, do they have something after death or are they just dead and finished?

[hidden hearth]

Wishful thinking isnt a problem. I never said I believe it will continue, I said "I think we go to something" that can be literally everything. However I think the outcome of it being infinite nothingness makes life pointless and if I have to live a life thats pointless id rather not live at all. Though I feel like this is only the beginning of what "life" has in store for us.

[hidden hearth]

I think saying this over complicates death, making it almost something spiritual or whatever it may be. Death is death. What happens I do not know for certain. I only have what I think.

[undone cosmos]

I used to have similar thoughts that a life ending followed by nothingness would be pointless, but I think we can find things to do in life that can bring about a purpose that can make life less pointless. However these kind of thoughts do nothing to increase the likelihood of something other that nothingness exist after death.

[undone cosmos]

I certainly was not trying to make death seem spiritual or anything like that. I am firmly of the opinion that death ends everything, there is nothing after death, for all animals, including human animals. I was just trying to work out if you saw something different for one particular animal species

[copper plaza]

How would no afterlife make life itself pointless. That implies the value of life depends on not on life itself.

[olive sage]

Yea how does that make life pointless?

Either way whether or not it makes life pointless has no bering on the truth of it

[little saddle]

You want the Hellenic afterlife? I am sorry my dude but that's psychopathic

[little saddle]

And @olive sage

If somehow he could experience the infinite nothingness it would be a very very very long time. It's a hell of it's own.

What he means is that what's the point of living of you can't escape death.

And I have problem with that. Not only do I believe suicide is weak, and for cowards (most cases), but that not living because you can't impact the world 'or it doesn't matter' is an excuse made by you to be lazy and not accomplish anything.

Those who genuinely feel this way usually lean into depression which goes into suicide.

[olive sage]

How is nothing hell?

You were dead for 13.8 billion years

Was that hell?

[little saddle]

If you could experience it

[olive sage]

Ofc but you can’t experience nothing

I don’t know why you brought suicide into this

Most atheists have a good mental health and believe death is the end

[little saddle]

I don't know what you mean by that

[little saddle]

As mentioned above

"I'd rather not live at all"

[olive sage]

then good thing you are a christian

please stay one

[little saddle]

What?

[little saddle]

Never claimed to be one.

And my beliefs about suicide and the like are not. From religion, it's kinds stupid because that's not even close to a motivator.

[olive sage]

ok my bad assumed cuz all theists I've met here are

[little saddle]

What motivates you to not lill yourself?

[olive sage]

My biological instinctual desire

[undone cosmos]

As someone who suffers from mental health issues and has tried to kill themselves twice and also been highly depressed and suicidal and not attempted to kill myself I really do not know why I went through with an attempt twice and did not at other times. I am sure we all have a survival instinct of some sort and it takes a lot to overcome that even if we have mental health issues impacting out thoughts such that we think killing ourselves is the best option. I am sure my view that life was pointless if their was no hope of anything after death did not help me but I do not hold that view anymore.

[tribal wren]

What's wrong with the Hellenic afterlife? @little saddle

Hellenic afterlife is actually pretty normal