#Please add back the traditional L1 - Airstairs and L2 - Rear Airport Stairs feature

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pulsar jacinth
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Dear GSX members reading this.. I will start off brutally honest. You have upset the entire communities (I come personally from vRYR) for removing this feature. Siren 😠

Your implementation of this 'economy' system is rather questionable. I seen people discuss it across various areas but I'm sorry none is gonna after the flight or before review payment invoices as if we're 'paying' for it. Personally in my OPINION.. this is a waste of time and should've been spent else where. However. Fine.. you may have implemented this but the next one I do not agree one bit with this.

The removal of the L1 having airstairs and L2 having airport rear stairs feature triggered outrage. I genuinely don't know why remove a feature!? WE use it. WE want it. IT IS USED TODAY STILL! Rather.. you should've just gave us an option to disable the rear airport stairs and not remove existing features. Which was already fine by just clicking L2 - No door at this position. This is straight up I'm sorry but B.S out of GSX developers whoever is behind it to suggest and even who the board of developers/members/executives who even thought of this removal of a feature being a 'good and nice' thing to do. Bring back this L1 airstair combination now! We want it back!!! 🤬

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tawny lantern
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I also personally do not agree with it

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As I also come from vRYR

blazing vapor
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There wasn't any reason to flag the whole economy feature as "questionable", for a feature that we already confirmed in ANOTHER post that a 3rd option "use Both" will be added to the airstair choice in the next update.

pulsar jacinth
blazing vapor
tawny lantern
blazing vapor
next cargo
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Air Canada, Cebu Pacific, Philippine Airlines, etc etc lots use only one stair for boarding

next cargo
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my answers still stands... these airlines have aircraft with built in airstairs

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CRJ-900, Dash 8 and ATR72 dont have airstairs?

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that wasnt the question tho

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nobody specified regional jets, the question was "if you can show me a single operator that uses airstairs but no back stairs please let me know"

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lmao you have never worked at an airport if you think CRJ's and Dash 8's cant use airstairs

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a simple google search would prove you wrong

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what engines does a CRJ have? props?

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I get that you're crying about your 737 but I answered the above question right because I gave examples of operators that use built in airstairs without airport stairs.

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explain?

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you just sound mad lol

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its not the answer you want to hear

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lmao your discord says "future flap operator"

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you could never work at an airline with that attitude. do some growing up or you'll fly computers forever dude

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yea still dont see anywhere in this thread that its specifically for 737

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a minimum wage job with no entry level requirements good job

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I can tell

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I can tell

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crazy considering I sit in the right seat of an RJ and you dont

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a picture isnt a "point"

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unless you only read pictures and not words

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you'd be surprised

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some turns take 45+

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exactly what lmao

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ok?

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what is the point you're trying to make?

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never flown on flybe? cityjet? citylink?

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when you grow up and you decide you want to pursue a career in the cockpit, you will start giving a shit about regional jets 😆

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unless you think you automatically get a right seat on a 737😆

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not north american either 😄

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cope is real

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idk how the gsx devs deal with babies like you

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missed the part in my job application where it said I need to be a canadian citizen to fly their AC

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you're assuming I was born and even hold the citizenship of the country my airline operates out of lmao

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dont be so naiive

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give it a rest man, read the thread and look at the question carefully. If you don't want to, and you just want to read what you want to see and ignore the parts you don't want to see, then I wont waste my time trying to educate someone who isnt capable of accepting that he is not right 100% of the time. when someone disagrees with you, you resort to name calling because you cant actually use logic and deductive reasoning to prove your point. You just say "bUt PiCtUrE 737". Enjoy loading up those planes

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you just prove my point because I already answered this question lol. You just dont want to accept my answer because its not a 737. cope

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google is free bro

tawny lantern
next cargo
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took me two seconds to google

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scroll up and count

tawny lantern
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So they use one set of airstairs correct

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And you asked this question

next cargo
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its related to a GSX FEATURE not specific to vRYR or the 737

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the person complaining is from vRYR but the issue isnt exclusive to vRYR pilots. This isnt a vRYR server.

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I think you are projecting with the slow comments

tawny lantern
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At what point did he say it was about the 737

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He was on about the general feature itself

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And that question has already been answered

next cargo
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it doesnt say its about the 737, hes talking about a gsx feature

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tell me you cant read without telling me you cant read

tawny lantern
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He showed it as an example

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That doesn’t mean it’s about the 737

next cargo
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ok ok so because he has ryanair pictures that means this thread is only related to the 737?

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thats what you're saying?

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you're saying that this feature which affects any aircraft because its GSX and not ryanair simulator, does not affect other planes?

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irralevant cope hahaha

tawny lantern
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Msfs/p3d

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You said what sim is gsx for again

next cargo
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you dont realize the server you're in

tawny lantern
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And it is used for p3d and Msfs

next cargo
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im losing braincells arguing with this guy man

tawny lantern
next cargo
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he just wants to be right and even when you show him that hes wrong he wants to cry about it and tell you hes not wrong

tawny lantern
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This whole airstairs thing was about having airstairs and airport stairs at the back and that question has been answered

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So politely shut up

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Is bro about the age of 10

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Not seen anyone use that in years

next cargo
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he might be tbh

tawny lantern
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I never said anything about a dash8

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You said find me a picture of an operator that uses front airstairs only

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And I found you one

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That is still an operator last time I checked

next cargo
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already showed you a pic

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irrelvant to the question about what operators use the buiilt in airstairs and use rear airport stairs

tawny lantern
next cargo
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come on sceplop keep up

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you get proven wrong every question and then dont accept the answer lol

tawny lantern
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At what point did we say we are grown adults

next cargo
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17 year old deciding conversation topic by looking at pictures

tawny lantern
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Sure you did pal

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Okay you want a medal?

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I couldn’t give a fuck

next cargo
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does having 10k hours of autopilot mean your opinion is more important or something?

tawny lantern
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You want a medal?

next cargo
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how many hours do you have?

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and what aircraft did you train on?

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how many hours you have?

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because you brought it up remember?

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I have more hours in reverse thrust than you do flying forward

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9 years older😂

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because you brought it up

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good luck in this economy hahahaha. you think airlines are hiring that quick?

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yea and they get applicants from all over the world. Many airlines wont even look at your resume without a type rating or over 1000 TT

tawny lantern
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They have 8,500 pilots

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I’m sure they will cope

next cargo
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flying isnt as niche as you think it is and it is extremely competitive

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I know the program you're talking about because I have had friends that have done the same thing

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they spend 100k euros to get an ATPL in an integrated course and only a few graduates are garunteed a position out of hundreds of students each year

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your chance to get into the right seat of any major airline taking those courses is probably 15/500

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this is simply not true

tawny lantern
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It’s just not as easy as that though is it

next cargo
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maybe this was the case 4-5 years ago after covid but not anymore

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hiring has slowed down significantly

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across the globe

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and the market especially in Europe is extremely competitive

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there are a TON of pilots all trying to get into the right seat of a ULCC and majority of the applicants will have more experience and hours/ratings than anyone gradutaing from a CAE or equivelant school

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theres a catch, They do give jobs but only to the top 10-15 in the class. Not everyone gets a position

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if you have a class size of 50, only 5 of you or less will get accepted

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pilot interviews are where alot of people fail

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and low grades on exams

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it even says on their website "successful graduates" not "all graduates"

pale stag
blazing vapor
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The new option to use embedded airstairs + airport stairs has been added in 4.0.1 as promised.

pale stag
pale stag
blazing vapor
pale stag
pale stag
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Unfortunately stairs still not appearing

blazing vapor
pale stag
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I do not

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After i select the handler theres nothing else thrown up

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On latest version also

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hope this helps

blazing vapor
# pale stag

No, because it only shows now, after you used operate stairs, so I don't know (now I'm asking), if you already had the Airstair out when you called operate stairs.

pale stag
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no i did not at first

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i remember back in p3d days you mentioned sometimes the systems confused when stairs are request after airstairs are deployed

blazing vapor
# pale stag no i did not at first

Have you maybe touched the profile so the airstair expression has been lost ? Since you asked before, it's like in this in the GSX Internal profile:

(L:AirStairs,number)

And no, that's completely changed now, GSX is not confused anymore and it fully support Airstairs before and after. However, for the question to work, the profile must contain the Embedded stair expression above, which I copied from the GSX internal profile.

pale stag
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is that empty space the issue then?

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blazing vapor
# pale stag is that empty space the issue then?

That's why it doesn't work. You have a custom profile that you edited, and lost the xml code. I'm sure if you Reset it, so the GSX internal profile will take over, the expression will appear again.

Or, just copy the code there, if you have edits in your profile you don't want to lose.

pale stag
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kudos... 1 minute

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nothing...

blazing vapor
# pale stag

You haven't clicked the door, so I don't know if you have the expression correct.

pale stag
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sorry

blazing vapor
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And what you did ? Just Restart and operate stairs again ?

pale stag
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yup restart and operate stairs

blazing vapor
# pale stag yup restart and operate stairs

And that is precisely why it doesn't work: you already have the Airstairs out, or at least I'm assuming it, since it was out in your first screenshot, and you haven't said "I retracted the airstair and called operate stairs again".

Having the Airstairs out means "I don't want to be bother by a menu: I already indicated my preference for Airstair ONLY".

pale stag
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now i am invoice however nothing appears, i check the airport profile also... no issues there

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ok let me try that too

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ok 2nd issue haha

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i retracted stairs and restarted gsx

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gave me the third option

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i selected aircraft own steps plus airport stairs

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and then....

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GSX extended the airstairs itself

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blazing vapor
pale stag
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no idea why

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strange

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hope it helped

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i spotted something

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the rear door on the internal profile is labled door 4?.... sounds like a bug to me

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or isit normal

blazing vapor
pale stag
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the service door on the other side is service door 2

pale stag
blazing vapor
pale stag
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understand

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after another restart still sends 2

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blazing vapor
pale stag
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ok no worries

naive ore
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I have the same issue, gsx extends the airstair AND connects front airport staircase at the same time

pale stag
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any news?

blazing vapor
pale stag