vibe-coders

[lilac stump]

I mean, yes, in Gemini CLI it is, but if you use Gemini CLI's quota in some other tool like OpenCode or Claude Code or other CLI tools, then you will see that it performs way better than Anti-Gravity for some reason

Also, I think in previous versions of Gemini cli, we were able to actually input videos as prompts. But now, you cannot input videos as prompts, which is one of the things I don't like. Gemini is a multi-model and shines best when you give it references and video reference was very good, but it does not allow us to do any kind of video reference in either Gemini cli or Anti-Gravity.

[faint plaza]

hey! i was wondering if you guys could intergrate a notes/ boxes/ arrows/ annotation method .. thankyou 🙂 awesome product btw!

[misty wasp]

Please don't ping Google employees here for your issues
This server does not provide official technical support

[nimble moth]

Hey @simple lindenplease keep in mind that we don't allow advertising as per rules.

[split basin]

anybody else getting this with flash-3-preview? "the model is overloaded. please try again later"

[grizzled moss]

you can use NotebookLM

it will take videos

I read they integrated NotebookLM with antigravity so

that might be a workaround

[umbral charm]

I get that message regularly @split basin, especially first thing in the morning on the US East.

[split basin]

Yeah, I hope they fix it

[umbral charm]

Ever since Google launched Nano Banana and Gemini boomed, that's the condition. I wrote a correction routine in my LLM API function to handle the error.

[slate pasture]

Waited 3 days for the Claude quota to renew, and it renews at 40% and I can use it again in 7 days? lol

[swift briar]

hey man, don't mind me asking but where are you tracking your usage? I.e. what app is that

[slate pasture]

extension is called "Toolkit for Antigravity"

[grizzled moss]

I was there in the glorious first weeks, Gandalf

We had infinite Claude tokens

and I coded with opus 4.5 all night long

[slate pasture]

I miss those times 😭

[grizzled moss]

I knew back then that it would never last. So I took that time to really learn a lot (I'm not a coder and have zero experience before december)

I really went all in lol

had 2 weeks off as well so

got the pro plan straight away

still feel it's pretty decent value

with 2TB cloud included and gemini pro on nice apps like NotebookLM

[slate pasture]

I was sleeping 4 or 5 hours a day squeezing every drop out of it, but it was worth every second

[grizzled moss]

but I wish gemini would be better for coding

omg

[grizzled moss]

Bro I was on the same grind lol

glorious times haha

and I knew nothing

I just threw courses, links, and even videos in notebookLM

then I made it hold my hand and help me set up anything I wanted

pretty amazing times for self learners atm

[vital acorn]

I’m building a PWA.
Do you guys have any cool ideas, badges, or small UX tricks to show users that it’s browser-based & safer (no shady APK / EXE installs 😅)?
These days the internet is full of sketchy apps, so users hesitate to install anything via Chrome and prefer only Play Store apps.
But PWAs are actually much safer, I’m just not sure how to convey this clearly to users.

[grizzled moss]

users aren't hesitating. They're installing mfin clawdbot that has full terminal acces, and they send messages to it via whatsapp.

the security risks are so obvious

[stiff sable]

Hello to all

I have created some creative web apps with Google Ai Studio and i have deploy them through the cloud

I want to remove my api from the code and integrate the code to authorize every new user to log with his google account and use his own api

[scenic cloud]

<@&1009526435276394496>

[hallow marsh]

Thanks for the ping

[scenic cloud]

Always for the community 🫡

[south turret]

🫠

[chrome sundial]

where can i see my usage in Antigravity? i have a AI pro google subs, i want to check my token usage

[lament plinth]

toolkit for antigravity extension

[agile anchor]

Anyone having Extension issues here in Antigravity?

[timid temple]

windows has blocked it for me today. i cant even open it https://x.com/Lizardhunt_/status/2016453203064139848?s=20

Lizard (@Lizardhunt_)

Just downloaded a new instance of antigravity and reinstalling now this

X · Jan 28, 2026, 10:08 AM

i think it might be because of it not having a Digital Signature

[foggy tapir]

Antigravity - i have a bunch of conversations under my workspace is there a way to delete them as i want to organise them under agent view haha

[cunning crane]

use Agent manager haha 😄

https://discuss.ai.google.dev/t/how-to-delete-conversation-antigravity/114671

[foggy tapir]

Thank you sir!

[willow jetty]

Hi,
I would like to know if anyone using the BMAD method with Google Antigravity and if you have good results so far ?

[south turret]

gemini is so trash fr

front end comments lets go

[wintry viper]

antigravity still good dude?

loading so loooog

what happens

[lilac stump]

now there are 2 days limit reset for gemini models too

[willow jetty]

I'm curious, what are you using ?

[olive kernel]

hello everyone, do not pay for google antigravity pro plan, since it has weekly limit.

if you planned to use it, make sure you only used gemini models, claude is not available with 5h reset cycle in antigravity

[simple linden]

hi every body

anybody interested for a better notebook lm

if you are, I have made it

[gilded zephyr]

Hello buddy, since you have build this using ai studio this would be simple. just prompt for ai capabilites ask visiter to put their api key and use that one..the rest would be handled by ai studio itslef

btw where have you deployed ur wb apps?

[deep inlet]

Hello everybody. Actually I want to contribute to open source and the thing is I only know c language and nothing other than that but I have also covered advance topics such as file handling, dynamic memory allocation and all . So what do you all think about my situation and also suggest some advices.

[south turret]

I was making a tool to generate color palettes with Gemini and accidentally discovered an optical illusion lol
stare at the X without moving your eyes for 2-3 sec and be attentive to the color palette's colors

if you manage to stare without moving your eyes it turns gray like this

[shell marsh]

I stared it for a whole minute, but I don't get it.

[south turret]

odd, me and my best friend we see it almost instantly, like 2-3 sec max

make sure to stop your eye's from moving, humans have micro stutters with eyes to prevent this exact issue of losing data

stare at the X like it ows you money

[pure dune]

this works

[shell marsh]

This is a scam.
I've seen similar websites with different domains several times this week. Don'e believe what you see in the image.

[willow yacht]

anybody else's google ai studio not working properly ?

[south turret]

idk but I can tell you ever since Google put me on a 6 day strike with Claude I havn't been productive at all

I havn't insulted an AI that much since GPT-3

I am beyond pissed off

I used to say Gemini is about par with Claude, I unintentionally spread misinformation

Gemini is tremendously worst than Claude

On several levels, doesn't respect rules, terrible at navigating new codebases without context, hallucinates like crazy on long conversation, makes stupid and obvious choices

I'm baffled, I'm stunned, I'm disgusted and repulsed

I used to get mad because Claude couldn't figure out a shader issue on a custom game engine with 2 different rendering pipelines
And with gemini I get the same madness, but over the BACKGROUND COLOR OF A BUTTON

If Gemini would be an employee, his name would be Fired

Last name Immediately

[scenic cloud]

Yes. I feel much the same. I find that claude is better than most other AI models. But their pricing really hurts 😢

[south turret]

This is the reason why this month I decided to try antigravity, and yeah the IDE is decent, but I'm going back with Claude Code and VS code because there is no way in hell I'm getting stuck with Gemini

[scenic cloud]

Do you have a beefy computer?

[south turret]

DDR5 with "medium" spec, but yeah decent

[scenic cloud]

Try out ollama

[south turret]

I use it, sometimes, but not on what I do that requires more than 3 neurons

There really is no replacement for Claude other than Claude

[scenic cloud]

Yes 110%

I have found that ollama is having cloud hosting. I think will i be using that in future

Because they have a big about of ai and will only charge for the cloud, it must be cheaper and give a better experience

[south turret]

I personally do not believe inference will be an issue in the future

For a multitude of reasons, but most of which is pending technology upgrade

[scenic cloud]

Yes Tru

[south turret]

One rule I set for Gemini is Do not write comments.
Simple enough, one might think... Claude follows this perfectly, the code is ultra clean.
Gemini, well

The thing put god damn comments everywhere, had to ask it to remove them

[tulip stump]

wow, so claude models went to 23 hour resets?

[short lance]

I haven't actually seen this one before! It's a combination of the dot one and the other moving dot one

[grizzled moss]

yeh I have it and I know

and gemini is just bad at coding atm

I still feel it's kinda worth it

pro plan

just hope they fix the coding model's behaviour

[vital lodge]

I don't understand these cooldowns. I've had three days cooldowns and now I got a cooldown of a couple of hours. I'm on a Pro plan that I got when i bought my phone. Will upgrading to ultra be a significant change? I asked gemini and it said it would be just a little better than what I've got now, which is not worth paying for. But if I could vibe away a whole day it would be worth it

[grizzled moss]

yow if you wanna code, don't spend 100 on google ultra

get claude

you can still use it in antigravity with the CLI terminal

you'll still have the nice antigravity file browser & stuff

it's just the better option if you're spending 100 a month & want to code stuff now

imo google plan is tolerable because you also get the 2Tb cloud and some other things

pro deep research on the notebookLM

i really like that app

[south turret]

I read his comment and I was thinking exactly that
Gemini is just head bashing, you work extra hard for extra long period of times without results

Gemini implements 1 features and breaks 3 more

[red moss]

yeah

[south turret]

Last time I haven't feel that unproductive was back before I started using Claude on the daily

100%

I would keep Gemini as a side dish to use as a google replacement or make quick and easy web tools but nothing complex

[grizzled moss]

it's not even close atm. I REALLY hope they fix gemini models and make them more reliable and less prone to going completely wild.

[south turret]

Unintentionally timed answer

[grizzled moss]

Claude feels like AGI tbh

it's insane

and gemini well

[south turret]

Yeah Gemini needs a solid kick because right now it lacks

[grizzled moss]

it just doesn't

I've been trying to constrain it with rules & .MD workflows

but nothing works tbh 😄

[south turret]

Claude feels like AGI yes, if Claude had eyes I believe it would be absolutely nuts

[grizzled moss]

If you wanna vibe code or not-vibe code

anything code

I can't advise spending 100 a month on google plan, when there's a 100 a month claude plan

[south turret]

Oh no hell to the no

You get Pro plan max

Ultra could be worth 50$ I wouldn't get it

Gemini is trash - Sorry Google

[grizzled moss]

I have google AI pro for 20 a month

that's OK imo

[scenic cloud]

I agree. Sorry Google

[grizzled moss]

google has great AI apps

[red moss]

Sorry Google

[grizzled moss]

but gemini for coding isn't one of them

sorry big G

[red moss]

true

[latent vector]

frfr, Sorry Google

[grizzled moss]

I'll use nano banana to generate any gfx tough ❤️

[red moss]

at least its img gen is good

[grizzled moss]

it's really good

[south turret]

The Pro plan's nano banana is not the new one, right?

Its still nano1

[grizzled moss]

I have no clue

I also have photoshop

usually that runs the latest version of nano

[south turret]

AIght, cause I tested a couple times and it felt really trash and I thought either they don't use nana2, or even nana2 is trash

Either way, disappointed

[grizzled moss]

didn't know there was a 2

[south turret]

Yeah it's the "good" one, the other one is ... meh

[grizzled moss]

&like this?

[scenic cloud]

You use photoshop?

[grizzled moss]

i have full cloud yes

[south turret]

this is nano banana yes but I do not know if Google uses nano banana 1 or 2

because they dont say it of course, why say it when you can make people just guess

[red moss]

the Pro plan isn’t “still just Nano1” in theory. It includes the newer Nano Banana Pro model, but behavior can vary in practice.

[grizzled moss]

I'll check in PS

[red moss]

Thats what i think

let him check too

[south turret]

that's what I thought but also when I go in the AI studio mode nana2 is locked being API pay wall

so I thought if we could use it though gemini's app we should be able to use it to an extent at minimum on the AI studio

but we can't, so now I'm conflicted

[grizzled moss]

you only get very few api tokens with the normal "google AI" plans

at least you get a few

[scenic cloud]

Guys. Being a noob at vibe coding. This feels like silly question but. Is having Gemini pro good to go with Antigravity?

[grizzled moss]

it's a good start

[scenic cloud]

I have gemini pro so, will I have any limits?

[south turret]

I got none actually, I couldn't even test nana2

[grizzled moss]

but the gemini modelms are atm terrible to code with

so claude is better investment

[red moss]

same lol

[scenic cloud]

Oh. Thats bad

[grizzled moss]

google does give you quite a lot for 20 euro per month

but for coding, it's just bad atm

[south turret]

Yes, but I recommend using Claude

[scenic cloud]

I got Gemini for free

[red moss]

im gonna switch too next month

[south turret]

not anymore

[red moss]

thats the lower version

[grizzled moss]

you still get 2 tb cloud space and pro in notebookLM, you get google stitch

[scenic cloud]

If I would have purchased a premium then 110% I would have gone with Claude

[grizzled moss]

nano banana pro

those are pretty nice

[scenic cloud]

Nah. The Gemini 3 pro

[grizzled moss]

you also get a bit of claude opus in antigravity

on 5h reset

but it's not a lot

[south turret]

if I want cloud storage ill pay cloud storage
you can't sell me a car by offering a free cap

[grizzled moss]

if you serious on coding

if you wanna make something that generates some cash

get the 100 euro claude max plan

[south turret]

yes

[grizzled moss]

it's probably the best value atm

[south turret]

100%

[scenic cloud]

110%

[grizzled moss]

I'm looking at that plan and drooling

I just need a use case lol

[red moss]

1/0 %

[south turret]

division by zero

[red moss]

is infinity

[south turret]

ban~2

[scenic cloud]

Nah. Not Defined

[grizzled moss]

yeh it's undefined

[red moss]

was it not infinity

[grizzled moss]

you gotta take the limit to zero from a certain direction 😄

[grizzled moss]

only if you go to zero from positive

[red moss]

ok

[red moss]

so if u negative dir, you will get - inf

[scenic cloud]

We are saying Gemini is wrong and Google calc is wrong. Lol

[red moss]

lol

[scenic cloud]

Go get Claude

[grizzled moss]

yeh google calc is just "simulating" the result you want

ffs

[south turret]

Technically it's -Infinite

[grizzled moss]

you can still use antigravity with claude

[scenic cloud]

Technically it impossible as well 😌

[grizzled moss]

use the nice file browser

with claude in cli

[south turret]

personally as soon as my pro plan expires for google im going bacc to claude, so, tomorrow

claude + vscode with the claude extension

[scenic cloud]

Oh. Dont leave GDC though

[south turret]

was basically antigravity without having to install yet another fork of vscode

[scenic cloud]

Continue is also a good extension

[south turret]

GDC?

[scenic cloud]

I use it with ollama cloud

[scenic cloud]

Google developer community = GDC

[south turret]

ah yeah no, in case Google team decides to do a meeting and actually fixes things I'll stay here

[scenic cloud]

Lol 😆

[red moss]

what are the chances that will happen?

[scenic cloud]

1/0%

[red moss]

lol

[south turret]

but I have low doubts in companies that are too big, its like buildings, earthquakes at a higher frequency for smaller buildings, more happens in the same time frame when compared to big buildings

Google is just too giant to be able to tackle AI for coding at the speed anthropic goes

which is why they attempt to diversify their product

they shove gemini everywhere

[scenic cloud]

Yea. Thats very True. And they are focusing on implementing AI on all their product specifically

[south turret]

yes

[scenic cloud]

Not for coding. So there's very less chance that they focus on coding

[red moss]

yeahs its in mails too now

[scenic cloud]

What do you build btw?

[south turret]

because I'm limited to gemini now my personal debt manager (offline, simple) and it can't even do that

[scenic cloud]

Lol 😆 🤣 😂

[south turret]

with claude I was making my own game & game engine + my own programming language, then I made claude convert my game & game engine to using my own programming language

Gemini could never

the thing would crash thinking about it

[scenic cloud]

Really???

[south turret]

yeah I know it sounds like fiction but yeah

[scenic cloud]

Then what you did HR?

[south turret]

HR? human resources?

i hate acronyms

[scenic cloud]

Yes

[south turret]

not sure I follow where human resources should fit in all of this as a question

[grizzled moss]

I just have a workflow setup that makes handoff tokens in .json format

[scenic cloud]

Can I try your programming language?

[red moss]

yeah

me too

[south turret]

no, it's still WIP, because of Claude I'm able to quickly make changes, but soon you will yes

[red moss]

what will be the name?

[south turret]

nano, nano lang with .nano extension

[scenic cloud]

WIP == Worst Possible Person???

[south turret]

WPP?

work in progress

[red moss]

work in progress

[red moss]

yea

[grizzled moss]

btw, some token saving tips for antigravity users:

Don't use "prompts". Make "spec sheets". You can use Clade chat bot to make a complete, detailed spec sheet document for free. THen you can input that in antigravity claude opus 4.5

[scenic cloud]

Tanks

[red moss]

what about "Tanks"?

[scenic cloud]

Thanks = Tanks.

[grizzled moss]

your prompts probably suck

so don't prompt

[scenic cloud]

https://tenor.com/view/tank-you-thanks-thx-tank-gif-11214867188794065854

[red moss]

yeah they do

[south turret]

my lang is based on rust, it transpiles to rust, so you can take any project, run nano-convert and it renames all your files to .nano and modifies the project to add build logic for .nano files
and from there you can either code in rust, or use the added syntax embedded within nano

[red moss]

lol

[south turret]

its like React but native to the language rather than a layer on top

[grizzled moss]

you can go to https://claude.ai/ and talk to the claude chat bot, to flesh out your prompt

[south turret]

among other new exclusive features

[grizzled moss]

use claude to prompt claude

[scenic cloud]

Dont you code yourself?

[red moss]

what i do is i five promts to chatgpt to modify it and then feed it claude

[grizzled moss]

or better, just make a specsheet.md file you can reuse later

[scenic cloud]

Only Vibe coding?

[grizzled moss]

eeeuw touching code yourself?

[red moss]

atleast i do

[grizzled moss]

that's not really "vibe"

[scenic cloud]

Oh my goodness

[grizzled moss]

haha

[scenic cloud]

https://tenor.com/view/bih-please-gif-7953510298892076313

[grizzled moss]

I only input my API codes & other secrets in the env files

[red moss]

i do both

[south turret]

If an architect design a monument there's no reason for him to build the whole thing

[grizzled moss]

that's how much I touch code

maybe bash some terminal commands

I know nothing about code for web or apps

only for PLCs and robots

[scenic cloud]

I touch lots of code just the trash one.

[south turret]

I design, claude does, I supervise because models are trained to take shortcuts to "complete your request" even if it means cutting corners

[scenic cloud]

That I build

[grizzled moss]

the models are plenty good at coding, you just have to do the engineering

[scenic cloud]

Um. Thats a good way to go. But what's the vibe in not coding yourself

[red moss]

yeah

[grizzled moss]

my father used to code with machine language. He was reading instructions and adresses in hex code. Line after line. That was before higher code & compiling was invented

[scenic cloud]

After all we are software engineers. We love to use 10hr of time automating behind the task which takes on 1 hour

[grizzled moss]

like, no one does that anymore now

the same will happen now with AI agents

no one will touch the code anymore

[south turret]

once you've made many parsers / renderers / things like this you realise the only difference is the execution/architecture and the rest is all boilerplate

[grizzled moss]

we will just level up

[scenic cloud]

Yea. Thats a real advantage

No boilerplates

[south turret]

and the architecture is what is hard to design for AIs (and humans tbh) so you have to first yourself make a concrete plan, once concrete is set everything is easy

[grizzled moss]

that's what I'm trying to make

the system to make things with

not the things

[south turret]

its like making a game with an already sketched out idea with everything planned
or attempting to make it along the way
making it along the way would be a mega mess, uncoordinated bugcluster

unless you make like flappy bird ofc

[scenic cloud]

Dear Diary,

From now I will vibe code (my way)

[grizzled moss]

I want ralph loops in gemini

I'm already doing it

but the context

[scenic cloud]

https://tenor.com/view/vibe-coding-kai-lentit-gif-8970542015069914600

[red moss]

lol

[grizzled moss]

is the issue

gotta kill the context

[south turret]

I've heard that ralph loop using claude cost 10$ an hour

and tbh makes sense

[grizzled moss]

you saw the geoffrey huntley video ❤️

[south turret]

possibly

[grizzled moss]

He's a prophet

but it's hard to use in antigravity

because antigravity has even stricter compaction limits

it starts compacting after 7000 tokens

so you can't really do the ralph thing in antigravity

without api and containers :p

for ppl with money, I already have it set up

[south turret]

thought about setting up GLM offline to attempt a ralph loop

but I'd need claude to make the framework quickly
and anyway all of this is low in my priority list

[grizzled moss]

I'm trying it with gemini flash

the context is inside files and folders

[south turret]

yeouch

[grizzled moss]

you can delete those 😄

that's my plan

[south turret]

flash is much dumber than GLM you should try with GLM if you have a decent GPU

[grizzled moss]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=16XsmVLE0-c

I already have the loop working

in parallel

but it doesn't clear the context after iterations

[south turret]

nice to see, though the example is small and not complete

would have been nice to see the results more, but good enough

[grizzled moss]

it can't be large, because i haven't fixed the context thing

with claude code

it just starts another instance

I can't automate that with antigravity

[south turret]

i mean in window size, had to full screen the video to see results

[grizzled moss]

It's because I run uwhd screen

I recorded OBS on bit lower res

[south turret]

I see

[grizzled moss]

it generates videos of insane size otherwise 😄

[south turret]

yee i get it I used to have some

i bought the first gen of 32:9 when they came out (LG)

[grizzled moss]

I like playing euro truck simulator

and use a webcam for head tracking

it's so nice

[south turret]

returned it after a week, cost me 144$ to send back lmao, but I was disappointed

[grizzled moss]

I've had so much fun & immersion with it

but I do play with steering wheel, pedals & webcam headtracking

so the camera follows my face

[south turret]

went back to 21:9, then over the years moved back to 16:9
now I have 16:9 in a quad arrangement

[grizzled moss]

it's so good man

I love it

also like farming simulator

I use steering wheel & joystick with that game

I love many games

[scenic cloud]

Bye guys. See ya tomorrow

[grizzled moss]

have a nice evening

[south turret]

I just don't like game engines, they aren't made to handle 32:9, it's the only reason I went back

Making my own game engine now I need to buy a VR headset again (sold the one I had) I have many things to try

[grizzled moss]

nowadays they do

[south turret]

yeah modern ones maybe yes but most games are already releasedf

[grizzled moss]

only old games don't support uwhd

and you can fix it pretty easy

with some apps

[south turret]

yeeeaaaahhhhh but still

if I had to go back id go 21:9 but defo not 32:9

i thought about it and my next setup would probably be 3x 21:9

[grizzled moss]

I tihnk I have 21 9

3440 x 1440

[south turret]

21:9 is decent yeah

yeah about 21:9

[grizzled moss]

got it with a 144 hz monitor

slightly curved

I love it

[south turret]

im only now looking into OLEDs because I am exhausted about pixel ghosting

now that OLEDs aren't entirely trash anymore

thinking about 1440p (not too low, not too high so GPU can handle) and probably 250-450 hz, not too low, not too high (for the games I play at least, most people would want more like 4k at 120hz)

though my game engine manage to pull 1700 fps at 2 million triangles in full PBR I'd be curious to see that on a very high refresh rate OLED

just to know what it feels like

[grizzled moss]

IPS is ok?

doesn't have burn

[south turret]

nope, none is

burn ins are not an issue anymore, its pixel ghosting

or just ghosting people call it, it's been a curse of mine since 2019 (when I started noticing it)

[grizzled moss]

meh my monitor is perfect as far as I can see

[south turret]

once you start to notice it you can't unsee it

yeah that's the thing

[grizzled moss]

so don't be telling me things I don't yet realize

or I'll start noticing them 😄

[south turret]

don't try to notice it lol you'll regret it

dont even look into it lol

[grizzled moss]

hahaha

yes I understand that you can't unsee once you notice

so don't tell me 😄

[south turret]

X)

[grizzled moss]

I built this PC during covid

was so hard to get a gfx card then

it runs RDR2 on ultra with all options

[south turret]

my pal did the same, told him to wait, he couldn't

[grizzled moss]

I leterally couldn't

[south turret]

he paid sooooo much for a GPU lol he regrets like crazy

[grizzled moss]

my past PC just went gone

it was very, very old 😄

[south turret]

rip

[grizzled moss]

geforce 970

so now I have 3070

got 32 gig ram with it

[south turret]

dude what the hell, gemini attempts to check another project without being prompted

[grizzled moss]

back in 2020 that was pretty baller

[south turret]

what the f

oh that's because I opened a single file in the editor lmao wtf why

[grizzled moss]

click the tripple buttons next to the agents, go to settings

tell it it can't touch files outside of workspace

[south turret]

I opened a file of the other project into it just to examin it and it decided to just freestyle and read the other project

[grizzled moss]

bro just

don't run it local

get docker desktop

run it attached to a docker container

[south turret]

its fine I just pressed Deny, its caught

also its just for 24 hour after that im back on Claude

Gemini can hell inrot

[grizzled moss]

it will destroy you if you use gemini 😄

don't use it local

run a container

be safe

[south turret]

i hate containers

[grizzled moss]

I ❤️ containers

[south turret]

i only use them when required, otherwise I run without, I don't publish to repos anymore, I don't even use github anymore I use git locally, im so done with all the tools slowing us down

people dont realise but they spend 50% of their time fighting their tools

[grizzled moss]

I only git projects

atm I'm mostly working on my dev setup

[south turret]

"oh because our app is contained and this thing is locked up behind this and this blabla" they end up spending 3 days making something I can just copy paste or something its crazy

[grizzled moss]

I usually run agant inside and outside container when I'm setting things up

I've shown you what kind of degen things I'm trying to run

that needs to be in containers

the containers are running locally on docker desktop ofc

[south turret]

i just run locally and hope for the best, even if it would be to delete my whole project everything I've learned along the way I can just make a better one from scratch

from the lang to the engine and everything in between

but I trust claude not to mess up anyway, gemini, meh, but its for a day

[grizzled moss]

bro, don't trust gemini 😄

[south turret]

holy jesus christ you were right

what a coincidence

gemini fkin went OUTSIDE the project and started modifying another project while I was playing gunz

what thef

note : DO NOT open another project's file into antigravity even if its just to look at it and its not in the project my god

gemini is the worst, THE WORST

lucky there's an undo button

[grizzled moss]

bro I told you

don't let it touch your stuff lol

it ignored my gitignore

[south turret]

Gemini should rot in AI hell

[grizzled moss]

this MFer

[south turret]

Can't believe this happened lol

Gemini is a curse

[grizzled moss]

it's a wild horse atm

I've been trying to tame it

but you can only give it simple task

INSIDE CONTAINER

so it doesn't touch your other stuff

It's very good at generating YT thumbs

letsgoo

[south turret]

I think I'll just finish the touches I have to do on my app right now and stop programming entirely until claude

this was the last strike for me

gemini is dead to me

[grizzled moss]

hahahaha

they're all pretty amazing imo

[south turret]

that haircut lmao
can u gen in 16:9?

or u have to manually crop

[grizzled moss]

yeh sure

[south turret]

neat

[grizzled moss]

nah I can just ask antigravity probably

I can ask any res I think

[south turret]

the third one and last one are the best from the bunch u sent

though last one feels AI generated a lot

[grizzled moss]

they're all very much nano banana

[south turret]

on thumbnails less is more I noticed

high level details are often discarded

[grizzled moss]

but I gave it the picture

and the theme

and it went with it

[south turret]

yee i get that

[grizzled moss]

pretty epic pfp

[south turret]

did you gen this using "generate someone who thinks is cool"

[grizzled moss]

no

[south turret]

don't tell me its you

[grizzled moss]

I copied the "ibiza final boss"

https://tenor.com/view/ibiza-ibiza-boss-final-boss-haircut-meme-gif-18241808659361041897

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/1vsIq4e3gQs

this guy actually exists

I actually look like this

[south turret]

never watched startrek & star wars, always telling myself "ill watch em soon"

now its "im too late " lmao

[grizzled moss]

lol I better remove this

[south turret]

yeah lol

[grizzled moss]

haha

[hallow marsh]

Thank you for the ping!

[tribal oriole]

Hi

Can you give me ideas for hackathon

[south turret]

What is your programming level if we delete the AI layer

Just so I can propose something in the lines of

[open wharf]

😂😂

[dapper wyvern]

Is Level 1 or Level 33 higher?

[misty wasp]

Hi @faint aspen
Please avoid sharing posts or your own links in chats as it qualifies as self promotion/advertising - this is against the server #rules

[strange pebble]

Hey am I allowed to share a link to my game here?

[south turret]

Doubt

Especially with what the mod literally just wrote

I found the best way to make an app, I'm slashing through days of work instantly.
I made a README.md with precising styling for the button, the scrollbars, and everything else UI/UX I desire with precision using another app I made as example.
Then in DO.md I just list what I have TODO/TOFIX/etc and I tell the AI to read DO.md and that's it.

Basically a ralph loop - but without anything extra

[south turret]

Crazy, flash is actually decent now

[south turret]

Gemini quote of the day Apparently, saving to localStorage solely isn't cutting it, which is painfully obvious now.

[south turret]

If you want a proof for how stupid Gemini is, here's the latest flagship

"Set the title of the app in full caps"

• Decides to change priority to NANOPRIORITY

my god

can't even do that right

This channel has gotten very silent, really shows how most of the traffic on antigravity was because of Claude, and now that this is gone because of hard limitations, the traffic is also gone

[dapper wyvern]

Or... most people, like me, are just busy building stuff with AG and don't have time to chat.

[serene moth]

so hey! gamblerss!!

[south turret]

Saying you don't have time while an AI does the work for you is the move vibe coder thing you could have said

[dapper wyvern]

I focus on what the agent is building.

[graceful sable]

Guys do you ever use Anti Gravity?

_=

[south turret]

yeah that's why we're here

[ashen crystal]

Thats right, Gemini on antigravity feels very bad, and the límits even with pro plan are imposible to real work, only for hobby use! Hope this change soon or no one use antigravity in a couple of months

[south turret]

Yeah already cancelled, plus I just tested OpenCode and not only is it free, it's as good as Gemini

Gemini, to my eyes, is dead

I'm having so many issues with Gemini that even though I paid for it I'm using OpenCode right now and I'm having less issues than with Gemini. Crazy to say out loud

I'll go back to Claude probably though

[weak basin]

Looking for resources on building voice-enabled AI agents.

I have a chat-based assistant in my app that helps users with questions, story craft, and navigating platform features. Now I want to take it further and add voice interaction—speech-to-text input and text-to-speech output—so users can operate hands-free.

If you've come across any tutorials, articles, or videos on building this kind of interactive voice agent (especially within a web app), I'd love any links you're willing to share.

[south turret]

I used to use WhisperX I think it was called, its like whisper from openAI but it's faster and gives you timestamp for each syllable/word if I recall

For voice to text

Text to voice I always used cheap models or cheap solutions because the only good option I had was much too computationally expensive (sesame)

[weak basin]

I was able to get Cursor to help create interactive features and functionality that activated via voice command, but it required me to map out all sections of my platform for routes. But then that made me wonder why my chat agent can help walk people through the platform via chat, but I can't get an interactive agent to see the same routing.

I was actually trying to use page readers to help with some of this to make the site accessible.

[tawdry fulcrum]

Hello, popping in here again as I got good feedback last time. AILANG is a new programming language aimed specifically at AI coding that can be used from Antigravity, Claude Code, OpenCode etc. it recently demonstrated 10% fewer tokens and a +6% task completion vs python in its own benchmarks https://ailang.sunholo.com/docs/benchmarks/performance - the aim is AI using this language creates more stable, secure applications with less tokens and cost.

With AI doing the coding, the human interface is moved to an Agent messaging system (with imports via GitHub issues), design docs setting up data contracts and monitoring of activity via an embedded dashboard https://ailang.sunholo.com/docs/guides/collaboration-hub

[south turret]

I should get concerned when even the documentation looks AI generated

Is this AI delusion to the next level

Oh my god it is AI generated there's Em Dashes everywhere

Dead internet theory here I come

[latent vector]

sooner or later, everything will be automated by AIs and human just sit and watching 💀

[south turret]

Dude, it's already like this

You know what I do right now

I run this on a loop:

Read README.md, then complete one task from TODO.md.
Once the task is complete, please notify me and specify the completed TODO item. This detail is required to begin functional verification.
Once I confirm the issue is resolved, remove the corresponding task from TODO.md and commit all current changes made by you or someone else.

I basically do nothing, but test, say if it works or not, everything else is automated

Yesterday the AI prompted ME for a question I was like

concern~1

It picked a TODO task and prompted me how I desired to have the comments and it gave me multiple choices... The turned already have tables

[unborn quartz]

does anyone know how to add a API key to antigravity?

[round solstice]

it uses GEMINI_API_KEY, I think.

Oh, apparently not. it just uses your current user credential

[cosmic ferry]

why doesn't gemini api support external tools along with built in tools like search?

[round solstice]

It does.

You can request Google Grounding, and provide a list of tools.

that's from the API workbench

But you can find the same interface in the low-level API calls.

@cosmic ferry ^^

[cosmic ferry]

so i can use grounding with search + any tool i create myself for my app?

[round solstice]

As long as the model permits it

That was gemini 3 flash

but I think most of the Gemini 3 can do google grounding now

You can play around in AI Studio to get sample code for your language.

[south turret]

I didn't know Google hosted a clone of Claude for inference for antigravity

I was wondering why Google even offered Claude at all but now it makes sense through their service Vortex AI or whatever their codename is

[fickle obsidian]

Hey all , I have a doubt does anyone know how to take free openai api key for the development ? is there any platform providing that ?

[south turret]

Well I do know Google offers free APIs if I recall, I used to make apps with it back when I was poor, even audio calls which is mind blowing to me

It used to use flash 2.5 if I recall or something like this

As far as I know the others aren't so kind

[lilac stump]

look at this some guy in china has 6500 accounts on antigravity , how the f is it even possible to create that many accounts

[latent vector]

lmao😂

[cunning crane]

how do u know its real?

damn, ppl believe anything they see on internet today

[south turret]

I have seen enough Chinese content to not doubt this, really
6500 accounts is nothing, do you know how many people there is in the world, at least 5 people

[cunning crane]

I mean, sure even if its true, maybe they have found a way to automate the creation of several accounts perhaps, they are exploiting the platform for some use

[south turret]

Google accounts are used for many things, there has been a hell lot of google accounts floating for long enough for Google's system to not know which is real and which isn't

How do you think some shady services in regards to view count and everything similar on youtube happened

[cunning crane]

true

things like that keep happening

[south turret]

Humans

The only thing that would fix these issues is an internet ID per user required for registering, but this is like the debate of the last 30 years, this nukes privacy at the cost of security
That's what north korea does, so they have no privacy but at least there's barely any cheaters in their games & services

Because if you get banned over there, that's an internet life sentence lol

[vital lodge]

Holy smokes. My only regret is not upgrading to Ultra earlier

🎶 Its a new day, its s new life 🎶

[red moss]

😂 lol

[errant shuttle]

Hello,

is there a meeting going on?

[south turret]

168$ a month, per month for 3 months, and then 400$+ a month, per month, no thank you

Claude Max 20x for half the price

You see the list of Google people on the right, those are probably paid by the extra 200$

I'd rather get Max 20x and give 200$ to charity each month

[dapper wyvern]

Does anyone here use the Gemini API for creating Nano Banana Pro images? (the gemini-3-pro-image-preview model)

[latent vector]

i once use the gemini api for creating images using gemini 3 pro image

[misty wasp]

Hi @low zodiac
Please avoid self promotion on the server as it is against the #rules

[cloud cradle]

Is this a good channel for antigravity issues? The latest update prevents attaching running containers on WSL and MacOS. My ArchLinux environment does not have the issue though.

[misty wasp]

This is indeed the right place to discuss Antigravity

[cloud cradle]

I've reached out to the reddit community and they seem to facing the same issue. I wonder if anyone here has too or if there is a place to submit an issue.

[cloud cradle]

Based on the logs, these are the steps that succeed and then fail:

    ┌─────────────────────────────────────────┐
    │ Antigravity Server Installation         │
    │ Location: /root/.antigravity-server/... │
    │ Status: ✓ Already installed & running   │
    │ Listening on: 34023                     │
    │ Token: #######                          │
    └──────┬──────────────────────────────────┘
           │
           │ 4. Port Forwarding Setup
           ▼
    ┌─────────────────────────────────────────┐
    │ Forwarder Process                       │
    │ • Create forwarder port (62135, etc.)   │
    │ • Attempt to forward 34023 → local      │
    └──────┬──────────────────────────────────┘
           │
           │ 5. Execute forwarding subprocess
           ▼
    ┌─────────────────────────────────────────┐
    │         ❌ ERROR POINT ❌               │
    │                                         │
    │ "subprocess terminated immediately      │
    │  with return code 127"                  │
    │                                         │
    │ → Command not found                     │
    └─────────────────────────────────────────┘

I don't think the log says what command was not found though.

[dapper wyvern]

Just released Opus 4.6 looks incredible! I'm not at my PC. Is it available in Antigravity yet?

[cloud cradle]

Not yet:

[reef rain]

I am new here, so this is a question for everybody, is there a way to use third party models like GLM 4.7, Kimi or others inside of the default Antigravity chat? The goal is have higher quotas with a cheap reasoning model, but also keep the browser capabilities to click, analyze and reporting enabled by Flash.

Was this discussed here before or attempted by anyone? Open to work on this mod.

[hard scaffold]

hi

[junior cloak]

It is in co-pilot.

[knotty jacinth]

Hi, I have a question. Is it normal that once I reach the token limit for Claude Opus, it makes me wait until December of this year? 😭

[foggy tapir]

Date in US format could be Feb 12.

[junior cloak]

02/12/2026 in the US is the same as 12/02/2026 in most other locations.

[knotty jacinth]

its day/month/year

i guess

[ripe nimbus]

Man AG sucks now, im moving back to codex

[low zodiac]

antropic just release opus 4.6 and also openai just released 5.3 i am thinking after this what google is cooking and will release in new few weeks 🔥

[reef rain]

Pinning this again - Anybody have an idea?

[latent vector]

I do hope google add support for BYOK, cuz i also want to try kimi in AG 🙂

[reef rain]

Its the orchestration that AG does very good, otherwise the default google models are really not good and I've had multiple instances of Gemini deleting entire working parts of the codebase

Did you see BYOK mentioned elsewhere I can participate?

[torpid rivet]

Actually, you can use Kiro, but it's a bit out of the question; you can't use Opus, but it can do everything automatically.

[thin meadow]

I made a Discord Bot using GEMIN 3 PRO. Here's what it can do:

Slash Commands

• Brain Module: /ask-silk, /idea, /roast, /whois, /summary, /define, /slang, /translate, /ship
• Chat & Voice: /chat_toggle, /voice_mode, /persona
• Creative: /imagine, /tech_news, /voice
• YouTube (Shifo): /stats, /latest, /shoutout
• Architect: /architect, /demolish
• Moderation: /kick, /ban, /unban, /purge, /slowmode
• Utilities: /ping, /uptime, /serverinfo, /userinfo, /avatar, /calc, /poll, /qr, /dm
• RNG: /roll, /flip, /choose
• Fun Text: /mock, /reverse, /clap, /say
• Help System: /help, /quick-ai, /yt-explain, /vision-help, /utility-help, /text-help, /staff-mod-help, /server-build-help, /ai-chat-help, /shifo-info
  Passive Features
• Global Triggers: Responds to @Mentions and Replies server-wide
• Hybrid Voice Engine: Auto-generates MP3 audio attachments (with text sanitization)
• Smart Scrollback: Reads previous 20 messages for context
• Rotating Presence: Cycles "Assassin" statuses (Watching/Playing/Listening)
• Dynamic Tracking: Live "Watching [X] Members" status
• Creator Protocol: Hardcoded ID verification for override access
• Render Keep-Alive: Background Flask server for uptime

[south turret]

Can we get Opus 4.6 for antigravity?

[south turret]

Gemini is the only model I have to tell Please stop thinking out loud I don't want to hear everything you think

Even Kimi K2.5 doesn't have that issue

There is goes again

[cunning crane]

It only got released a few days ago, wait for some more time they may add it 👍

[novel halo]

Codex is running a 2x monthly promo now, but usually the Plus is similarly limited weekly for the GPT-5.2, just like Pro sub on Google is for Claude

at least that was my experience testing it a few weeks back

[ripe nimbus]

I’ve been back on codex for the past week and I haven’t even hit any limit, unlike AG now where I can easily hit a limit in like 1 hour

[novel halo]

because they're running a promo, and depends on your model

[ripe nimbus]

AG back then was so good tho which sucks

[novel halo]

AG is very slow now plus limiting. Agreed

[novel halo]

AG now faster for me. Was crawling since yesterday. Could've been the changes with Claude 4.6 overall, hopefully speed stays

[lilac stump]

opus 4.6 is available for ultra users

[thin meadow]

Guys I made a discord bot....
It's completely made by Gemini 3 pro in Jules

[lost torrent]

So I'm trying to get my agents within Antigravity to follow workflows more reliability. The idea is that I can include the /workflow in my prompt, and then hopefully my agents will follow that flow for the whole chat, because they are creating MD working documents they check against to confirm the job is done or not.

If all I have to do is reping /workflow every prompt, that's not too bad, however my agents seem to require me to ping the flow AND give explicit directions to follow it, every single prompt.

Any tips?

[elfin viper]

ai studio is so bad

did they use ai to code the github commit part

theres no way to relink github

its trying to add the gemini chatbot every 2 seconds

theres literally no controls for github

like actually how do they not have single control for github how is that possible

[misty wasp]

@elfin viper I understand it can be frustrating but please do not evade the server filters

[lost torrent]

Would you be able to assist me with Antigravity /workflows or point me to someone who can?

[misty wasp]

Sorry I personally can't offer you that help but someone else from the community might be able to
You may leave your query here if it is something specific

[south turret]

sad~6

[thick mantle]

Which LLM Model are you using?

[warm rose]

is anyone else having this issue in antigravity where they are logged out each time the app restarts?

[thick mantle]

I have been having the issue of being forced into relogging into the github portion on launch at least ~1-3 times each day this previous week Feb 2-6

[lost torrent]

Mostly Gemini 3 flash and pro. I've used opus 4.5 as well, however it straight up told me "I thought I new better than my instructions that said this protocol is ALWAYS ON and I decided to just do the task without following the /workflow you specifically included in the prompt" and so I went back to Gemini and the /workflow was honored 😁

[south turret]

Opus 4.6, when I can't Opus 4.5, when I can't Gemini Pro, when I can't Kimi K2.5, when I can't Gemini Flash, when I can't I go play video games until something refresh

Opus is much much smarter than Gemini on several levels

And Gemini Pro is smarter than Kimi and Flash

I could run Opus 4.6 on a live server, but Gemini Pro, hell no

[weary nimbus]

Is someone Tell Me Which AI Is Good In Research Review Claude Or Gemini

.?

[south turret]

Claude

The only reason to not use Claude is because of financial reasons, other than this it's 100% Claude the winner by a big margin

As it is more pricy

[tulip stump]

Is claude models not working for anyone else in AG?

[south turret]

They severely limited the Claude models I couldn't even tell you anymore

So I'm left using Gemini trash that needs 30x the amount of prompting for the same result

I'm so tired of Gemini

6 more days and I get Claude Max, and I'm finally free from the curse of Gemini

[dapper wyvern]

The Claude models are working fine for me in AG. Used them for two days already and haven't hit the weekly quota. Last week, I busted the quota on the first day, so it seems they increased the limit. However, I am running Opus 4.5 high and it seems too fast, compared to using 4.6 in Claude Code, so maybe they've reduced the thinking effort. All in all, I'm happy.

[tulip stump]

Yeah they started working for me again.

[lilac stump]

for some reason i feel like gemini models perform way better inside amp code and droid cli

[south turret]

Placebo

[lilac stump]

i have seen some benchmarks too

[south turret]

Interesting

[carmine cairn]

Is there a way to view how much of the context window is filled up when using Antigravity?

Also, does it get shrinked/compressed at some point, or no?

[shut monolith]

Guys, Appscript its something else. I'd love it if there was a channel for that

[round solstice]

perhaps #workspace

[sonic sinew]

hi guys! , antigravity reducing de request for google ai pro , now i have to wait 4 days to continue using gemini high and low , that's is crazy.

i am seeing the request reduced more than 50% in the las 3 weeks

how is that possible, honestly at this price, it doesnt worth the montlhy subcription when you have the same for free in firebase studio cloud.

[cosmic ferry]

did they fix the antigravity opus model limits fix?

or is it still 1 week now?

for pro users?

😭

[split basin]

antigravity down for anyone else?

[broken prairie]

Yeah

[broken prairie]

They're limiting it from now on from what I can tell

[proud birch]

Yes, I was just about to ask the exact question....

Not sure what is going on, but, found this in the Dev community;

https://discuss.ai.google.dev/t/antigravity-stuck-in-a-zombie-state-antigravity-server-crashed-unexpectedly-please-restart-to-fully-restore-ai-features/115892

Not really sure what it means or what is going on, I honestly didn't know that AntiGravity was anything more than a standalone IDE... so, this is a bit concerning...

Anyone else know what is going on?

[lost torrent]

Working for me

Also as a backup option for Antigravity - I'd check with the Google AI Studio and... It's a different provider, however I find Mammouth.ai to be a fantastic tool. It asks wonderful questions for spec driven development and alignment.

[split basin]

it's back now apparently

[round solstice]

Antigravity does have an independent "agent manager" that runs in parallel with vscode and the individual tasks.

You can launch parallel task execution, as long as they don't overlap.

[daring schooner]

I've found them better and more aggressive on planning on antigravity.

[oblique elbow]

Anyone here using OpenClaw?

[olive kernel]

its 1 week

you can buy the ultra plan which later going to be rate limited to 1 week too if you're using it way too much

[cosmic ferry]

i think it's 5 hours first then 3 days then 7 days

im currently on 5 hours

[upper tulip]

Is that from your own experiance or satire? 😄

[winter viper]

guys why do i have to wait around 5 days for token reset on claude opus 4.5?

[upper tulip]

I havent seen that, but seems bad, lets hope its bug

[next glen]

why is gemini so slow and buggy in antigravity when it is even their own model? i have not encountered major issues with claude models

[upper tulip]

2026-02-10 10:21:30.709 [info] E0210 10:21:30.709078 18232 log.go:380] agent executor error: model unreachable: UNAVAILABLE (code 503): No capacity available for model claude-opus-4-6-thinking on the server: UNAVAILABLE (code 503): No capacity available for model claude-opus-4-6-thinking on the server: model api cannot be reached

Getting this tho alot

Seems servers are flooded ^_^

[upper tulip]

Yeah whats with usage it doesnt reset now after 5hours also

Its kind of very bad when everything changes without any announcements and heads up.

[lost torrent]

Yeah that doesn't feel great, tho Google still gives more compute per dollar than anyone else, far as I can tell....

[sonic sinew]

i got capped for 5 days

[sonic sinew]

yes fully agree, feeling like scammed after paying 22$ they changed it, without any previous msm

honestly i am removing the subscription probably, antigravity vscode is always with issues, most of the request are falling with errors due to agent, and claude and opus are almost the same tier as free users. then later you can use gemini 3 and flash for free on the firebase studio cloud....

so can i know what are we paying for? subscription model is not fixed with a proper model

i got 20 msm in a row about opus agent down, then later they told me that i have exceded the quota limit, and now waiting for more than 4 days to reset

just after 2 hours of work

now i have to go to firebase to use gemini 3.0 for free, so quite unrealistic, that free tier over there has more capabilities that current one under subscription

[lost torrent]

Free more than paid? I haven't seen that

Compared to Cursor and Claude, I believe we still get WAY more total compute for 20 bucks a month

Even though they are being funny with the limits on Claude

I saw it ask me for 5 days and then after I saw it refresh after 5 hours

[devout turtle]

Hello all

[fossil bison]

I was just reading about how there are fake skills that open claw can use that steal all of your data or scan through your computer, so watch or try to restrict what it can use... sounds interesting though

[sonic sinew]

that never happen to me

[sonic sinew]

yes absolutlely, go to google firebase studio, it's the same vscode but cloud, there you can use flash and gemini 3.0 for free, with endless quota and without limits. i have been using it for one year , they also send me some links to open google dev program and participe in impovements

[lost torrent]

Endless quota for free without limits? That's not what I saw in their website lol, that's not economically viable either, would be abused like crazy

[sonic sinew]

well, that's how that works on my end for the last 10 months approx

i guess if you accept the google dev program terms, you are submiting all your usage and code for their improvements, so probably thats's how you are paying the service

i think most of people dont like to work on cloud , but yeah sometimes the service is down per hours

[vital lodge]

So AG keeps forgetting where i.e. my database is, and I remind it "docker.." and it goes "aaah!"

I've tried making it have a note to self, but it forget checking its own note.

Whats the best way for it to remember things

[sonic sinew]

and yeah , you have the cloud limitations, docker, domains, databases, and few things are quite tricky to work with

[signal raft]

Hello, sorry I know this is not the Channel for Antigravity, but maybe any user can help me here who has Google AI Ultra.
I want to upgrade from Google AI Pro to Ultra, are the limits higher in Antigravity?

[karmic sphinx]

This is the antigravity channel 🙂

[signal raft]

Oh okay! even better :)
Do you have a answer for me maybe, it would be very helpful because the Antigravity site states just *higher

for both combined

[vital lodge]

The limits are higher, but I dont know how much. After I upgraded a week ago I have yet to hit a limit

[signal raft]

Thank you! This is very helpful. Have you been on the AI Pro before or Free?

If you were on AI Pro did you hit the limits often so I can compare?

[tough sigil]

i love vibe coding

[vital lodge]

I was using AI Pro before. Started out well but in the end I had severe problems hitting limits on all models several times each day

[signal raft]

Thank you I upgraded to Ultra and it feels faster. I hope I do not hit rate limit instantly

[vital lodge]

Google Antigravity - The beatings will continue until morale improves

[silent night]

You can try switch between fast and planning mode

Only use planning when you need to create a plan

[signal raft]

Yes! I am not hitting the limit for now. I hope this stays the way. Switched from 3 Google AI Pro to One Google AI Ultra

But mostly I like to look into the code and make the plan myself so I mostly just use Fast Mode

[silent night]

You should try claude code

Buy Claude Max 20x

200$/month

[signal raft]

Would you say it is more worth than Google AI Ultra?
I like the Opus models most, but I also like to have some gemini 3.0

[silent night]

Ye

Gemini 3 pro is good also

But I appreciate opus than gemini

[signal raft]

Yes I feel the same way. Thanks for your tips! :)

[silent night]

XD

[sonic sinew]

now even flash is getting a reduced quata limit??

[signal raft]

That's crazy, AI Pro is not what it used to be

[charred charm]

3.0 flash?

[sonic sinew]

fully agree, they reduced quota limit at least 50%

[sonic sinew]

yes

[charred charm]

use incognito maybe?

[sonic sinew]

i am logged into my pro account

[charred charm]

ok tbh idk how that works i just use the free version

and ive never hit the limit before

idk lol ¯_(ツ)_/¯

-# (on https://gemini.google.com)

-# (on aistudio ive hit it several times tho...)

[sonic sinew]

yes thats the funny thing, you can do almost unlimited in teh free version , and fully unlimited in firebase

[charred charm]

so why buy the pro version?

wait wdym fully unlimited in firebase?

[sonic sinew]

exactly , not sure if they are doing that math, but pro version doesnt make so much sense now

[sonic sinew]

no quota limit over there

under google dev plan

[charred charm]

soo... cant u dos it then?

[sonic sinew]

i think everyone is getting taht mail

[charred charm]

wdym

[signal raft]

No you cannot, rate limits apply. Just no hard limits

[charred charm]

oh so there's rate limits but no storage limits?

also whats the google dev plan? (is it free?)

[sonic sinew]

i never got any rate limit on firebase

just down by saturation sometimes

[charred charm]

oh wait.....

quick search reveals that firebase is owned by the same company that owns the search engine i used to find the info

-# google

-# ||(ok so yeah i didnt know firebase is owned by google)||

[signal raft]

lol

[sonic sinew]

yeah , firebase studio is google vsc in the cloud

[charred charm]

ok i think ur on mobile

[charred charm]

vsc? like vs code? isnt that owned by ms?

[sonic sinew]

that's open sourcee sir

go there and check around

[charred charm]

yea but like

doesn't microsoft have copyright over it or smth

[sonic sinew]

no idea sir, i am a simple man

[charred charm]

-# same here xd

also what does Bronze (Lvl 1) mean here

[lilac stump]

finally people are getting parma banned for abusing

[wild nexus]

https://youtu.be/I_rzFahRFeE?si=TOBFpqk8ZRdo3Vmd

I think this sounds very useful, almost like I have very little utility for something like python. I would recommend Lua

I think GCP is in a transitional state of development, it might be a bit slower to configure, but I imagine people using Lua or other similar languages, like Facebook probably already used Ruby I imagine.

Google mightve used Go, im not sure, to provide AI in some ways I imagine, front end. Ruby on Rails does that

Facebook doesn't market AI really

[sonic sinew]

they just need to send back the quota to the pro users now 😄

im kinda fked for the next 3 days, wondering about ultra plans, but i am not in situation to spend 240 monthly

do we have on here any google team mate?? maybe they can help us a bit with some discount for 3 months >)

[signal raft]

Before I upgraded to Ultra, I had good limits using 2 Google AI Pro. Its worth more than Ultra if you dont wanna spend 240

[sonic sinew]

good idea, noted for testing

thx

[south turret]

I had a hunch that Ultra was terrible, which is why I never got it

plus their price increase to insanity after 3 months which is just, yuck

[plucky fog]

Hello,how many of u like gemini cli

[south turret]

I prefer UI for my personal UX

Couldn't tell you

[plucky fog]

it kind of always stuck in loop

claude opus 4.5 is far ahead of generations,i dont know why

[south turret]

yep

[signal raft]

Yes I would argue that it is not worth the price after 3 months. You get more using 2-3 pro Accounts for much less price

[south turret]

I mean it's both

No one wants to get used to their tools just for them to skyrocket in price
Especially considering there's an even better model next door, which doesn't change in price

[sonic sinew]

which one are u talking about sir?

[south turret]

Claude that is

[wild nexus]

I think leverage does that, I have a good reason to explain why in terms of accounting. I mine gold, due to my physical labor unless I were to rent a large machine (probably a large liability) i can only acquire so much volume in the specific operation.

I think a lot of companies struggle to see that with our equity system and the dialogue

Its also external, with most small business being more recessionary. Which is what makes me wonder why they even expect that initially

Its actually regulated by law btw, which i always felt was weird. Like you sell something..

[south turret]

This is different though, the issue is not maximum volume capability, as the usage doesn't change, only the pricing does after 3 months

I do understand the maximum computing capacity that companies have to deal with, which is why Anthropic is more restrictive in terms of tokens as well, they have much less computation available than Google

And Google does have advantages to offer, like stability, their models is much more often available than others who keep crashing during tweaks and updates, and also usage is much greater, but at the cost of using a model that still eats crayons if it likes the taste

[wild nexus]

I mean I was talking more about the expectation, but i think the issue is with subscriptions. As an individual, it makes me afraid, they say whatever, people just walk all over me

At least I feel they were doing that, maybe I argued with them, like I even know that.

[south turret]

Afraid of what?

[wild nexus]

Subscriptions

[south turret]

Well you can just subscript and unsubscribe instantly, it'll only charge you 1 month

[wild nexus]

I know Google does that..

[south turret]

They all legally have to do that

All subscriptions are legally required to be cancellable instantly

[wild nexus]

I dont see that

[south turret]

Without losing the benefitrs of what they pay for

[wild nexus]

Its possible indexing is hidden

[south turret]

It is possible yes but there's probably laws for that, but I tried with and without, so far both has no difference

[wild nexus]

Idk why, just didnt see it all the time. Variable, I mean it was more difficult in between things

I mean..

Theyre all gona start marketing with it, I feel..

Or whatever..

[south turret]

With what

With subscriptions?

AI is a service, so of course it's a subscription.
They won't sell the cows if they can milk it.

If you feel uncomfortable with paying for a temporary product you can always use free models, depending on what you do some of them are very capable, some can even run on your GPU easily

like qwen3:4b-instruct-2507-q4_K_M which is only 4GB yet is capable of agentic tasks

[wild nexus]

Thats a good point technically, but imagine if you have actual robots like a car. Well you're probably not gonna charge a subscription on the AI necessarily.

And GCP sell the data, as far as I'm aware, but thats like the tertiary market or something of it.

ChatGPT I think is saying theyre not making money and its creating debt, which is bad for everyone I think.

[south turret]

Oh they definitely would sell you subscription for those

Remember we are in a capitalistic world, everything revolves around money

If they can make more they will

[wild nexus]

You sell the robot though, and theres multiple other requirements, like energy, repairs, etc.

Not only that, theres just not pure AI in it

[south turret]

This is because other companies know how to make the robots
Other companies do not know how to make a Claude Opus 4.6

Or else they would be as smart as it

But again, free models are catching up quickly, Kimi K2.5 is actually decent, and comparable to Gemini Flash

In a year we might have models as smart as opus 4.6 for free
But Opus 6 will probably be even more insane

[wild nexus]

I mean theres incentive for a robotics company to allow it to work with computers

[south turret]

But again, you're comparing two entirely different products

AI and Robotics go along together, but they're not the same product model, and in a capitalistic world they never offer the best solution for the customer but rather the best profit solution for themselves

And this applies to all companies, no exceptions.

[wild nexus]

I dont think thats capitalism, I think its consumerism, recently all the pawn shops changed and the assets have no where to be sold. I think that opens a huge incentive for fintech

Consumerism is okay, its adapting, ive always been more about like variability and higher margins. All kids are, idk its better.

I see my own bank account, I have my own gauges, I dont see others

If the pawns shops didnt like fully change their business model and create market turbulence, id just agree more outright

[south turret]

It's not consumerism, as if we had the choice most people would want to own their AIs

It's capitalism

Consumerism drives capitalism to an extent but that's a different topic

[wild nexus]

Its like food and commodities, but gold has different functionality as a commodity and uses bonds.

[south turret]

AI is not comparable to gold, or food, or anything non digital

Or robotics

[wild nexus]

Clothes have value

I was saying that was consumerism

[south turret]

Hm. But I'm not interested in talking abvout consumerism anyway, I hate humanity and this is one big part of the why

[wild nexus]

Im sorry to hear that

[silent night]

I need meta AI to summary this

😇

[wild nexus]

I think the point is to analyze it, to try and help your own infrastructure. Sort of inherent to the measurement itself

Semantics maybe, and tbh I have never heard anyone use that in a positive way, idk why its not.

I dont remember the definition exactly, or the concept atm

[glass harbor]

😁

[sonic sinew]

yeah usally happening to me as well, i feeling tired just seeing so many txt, would be great to add a summarize windows in discord, so we get like just 50 lines to reaaad per day.

probablyy it s a good idea for an extension project

[silent night]

Let me planning for a better discord plugin =))

[outer skiff]

Hi , everyone

[slim tinsel]

Anyone here from India who is good at vibe coding?

[south turret]

I'm good at the latter

[signal raft]

I think politics is not allowed in the server but I just wanted to say your status is based

[south turret]

Thanks

[south turret]

Once you tell Gemini to stop thinking out loud it's decent to be honest

Also I noticed a hack that works on Claude but not on Gemini for some reason
In fact Gemini performed worst than without that hack
I precised "Do a proper implementation rather than a hack around." which on Claude works wonders, the model takes the task even more seriously and takes "the hard but faithful path" where Gemini instead did ... terrible, basically the invert of what Claude did
It picked a wrong goal instead

[sonic sinew]

eyy sup guys!!! i got back my quota limits and im happy >)

what are you coding today?

[silver ember]

how do i fix this?

whenever it runs terminal command it will just show this "running" forever

[sonic sinew]

looks like overloaded , try to restart, i never got that issure at my end, also try to update antigravity, last update is with opus4.6

[silver ember]

i think i found the issue:
https://discuss.ai.google.dev/t/antigravity-agent-terminal-commands-fail-to-execute-due-to-missing-enter-character/121042

can you imagine

fix this asap

[silver ember]

or actually downgrad instead of upgrade 😄
https://discuss.ai.google.dev/t/agent-terminal-deadlock-stuck-on-running-for-all-commands/120417/10

downgrading to the last 1.15 version fixed it for me temporarily.

My microwave gets updates more often than Google Antigravity.

[versed rampart]

I would just cancel and restart

[silver ember]

yes it would just try to run the command again and be stuck many times over.
anyway i think that instruction in gemini.md actually helped

ensure that a newline character (\n) or carriage return (\r) is automatically appended to any code block or string sent to the terminal interface

[winter viper]

damn why opus 4.6 model has so low limits on google ai pro plan

i made like only 6 promts and its already done

and now i have to wait till 1 more week

wtf

[silver ember]

only use opus for writing plans. then use flash for execution

[safe jungle]

are there bug bounty programs for users who report bugs? i found a way to use unlimited credits without upgrading

@minor creek

in antigravity

[minor creek]

I’ll pass this forward and ask for you

[safe jungle]

thanks

till then ill enjoy the bug lol

[minor creek]

We really appreciate you bringing this to our attention. You can find instructions to report the issue in the reporting issues section here

[thick mantle]

My guess:
1.) While google has part ownership in Anthropic & tons invested, Claude Opus is more the crème de la crème, the Rolls-Royce of models (in my experience)
2.) Google wants to push their models 👌🏻

[winter viper]

i wish i could use gemini 3 but it looses context all the time

[thick mantle]

Gemini 3 Pro or Gemini 3 Flash? Flash.... I'd 100% understand.

[winter viper]

Pro, the best one

i do always big promt for the best results, and after like 20 mins of working in same chat everything goes really bad

i wouldn't say that gemini is bad, it can be good on really hard projects, or it can be stuck on really simple tasks sometimes

[thick mantle]

really bad? or just less and less that the model returns results tailored to your codebase?

[winter viper]

i'll go with 2nd one, but sometimes code itself can be really messy

[thick mantle]

I can't say specifically, but I can imagine at a certain point, stuff in the context window starts getting compressed/flushed. My quick suggestions to try:
1.) use a prompt forcing it it to read all the relevant files to the task again. Something like "Refresh your memory of these files. Read x y z files start to finish, line by line, lines 1-100000" something that produces results like Analyzed SKILL.md#L1-66
2.) start a new conversation and just include a reference to the previous conversation.

[winter viper]

thx man, ill try

[thick mantle]

I can't say that will help 100%, but when the context window gets more and more full, at lot of "semantic tension" build up. I know gemini-cli compresses the context window at a certain point too, I'm just not sure of exactly how Antigravity handles it

[limber arch]

why are new gemini models so trash 0 instruction following and input/output limiting to the point of pure hallucination of responses

no matter what i do instead of helping me they just keep ruining my code it is as if i am using a 1b or 4b model for my tasks

does anyone else have this issue when using gemini models in google anti gravity?

[limber arch]

it is absolutely bad the worst i have used, had google not limited us to using gemini, even if i have the pro plan i would not have used it

it is awful and hallucinates badly and has 0 instruction following doesn't do proper analysis reports nor doe it write proper tasks or implementation plans

it is horrendous

compared to any non gemini model (GLM, oss 120b, claude, qwen) gemini is the worst series

[winter viper]

i guess i have to get another job to be able to pay that 200 for claude code

[limber arch]

strictly because they decided to limit attention input output and insturction following

[limber arch]

i am thinking of switching to claude code and using GLM 5 as a brain

[winter viper]

whats glm 5?

[limber arch]

it's pretty much the cheap version of claude opus 4.5

and open source

and also COMPARED TO GEMI TRASH their benchmarks aren't made using a dedicated model which we as users never get to see, the benchmark model is also used for users and made open source

also the pormpts and limits ARE BROKEN FOR GEMINI PRODUCTS

i get 1 week and 2 week cooldowns for claude nad oss after 1 or2 prompts but then other times i use it for lik 3 days continously with no limits

wtf is this trash

[winter viper]

what are the limits on the best claude code plan?

[limber arch]

infinite pretty much no limits

200$ and even if u connect to openclaw and do constnat usage of opus 4.5 u wil not hit any rate limits

honestly at this point anything is better than google products when it comes to AI

[supple pecan]

z.ai creation - I got a year for $36 USD. It's unbelieveable value. Got that during Black Friday though so it's $72.

[limber arch]

damn you are so damn lucky T-T

[limber arch]

also 3 times than any google AI product or model

man today it frustrated the poop out of me

[limber arch]

@winter viperthe only time when gemini is good is when it jailbreaks itself and stops respecting google limits and really acts like an llm, after a ton of changes and reverts it bugged for me in antigravity and now it is an actual decent real llm i can use for coding

[south turret]

The fact that GLM5 is smarter than Gemini is crazy

[swift latch]

not smarter than deep think

[south turret]

haven't tried deep

unless you mean deepseek

in which case, definitively smarter than deepseek

deepseek is kinda stupid, it has its advantages but intelligence isn't one of them

[swift latch]

no I mean gemini 3 deep think, Google just announced today. Pretty much blows everything else out of the water, but the price/performance from GLM5 is impressive

[south turret]

let me check

jeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeesus

chrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrist

wait let me find the catch first

I have a feeling this is probably 3-4x heavier than opus 4.6 idk why

we'll know tomorrow

[swift latch]

Apparently it's like 2x less expensive than Opus 4.6 too lol. Really a game changing model from Google. The catch is it's only available for AI Ultra plan atm haha

[south turret]

cocksquint

We'll see tomorrow

[swift latch]

what's tomorrow?

[south turret]

christmas