#šŸ‘‚ā”‡game-feedback

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hollow badger
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ban cheaters

weary pine
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49% of Ruby picks this season are Lights so welcome to the M11 meta!

spark shard
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Embark condemned this game a long time ago, this is the state of the game. The matchmaking of Season 2 has been a topic of discussion, but instead of focusing on that aspect, they prefer to invest time in the store or prepare a TGM event for 100 people. The game is in an irreversible state regarding matchmaking due to the number of players it has; to make a fair system, queue times would be like 10 hours or something. The time to fix the matchmaking system passed a long time ago; when they had time to do it, they didn't, they were entertained with other things. I understand that the team analyzing the data in relation to the supposed matchmaking was probably entertained watching Netflix while their paycheck arrived.

The situation is what it is, there's no going back, the game is doomed. And so I said before:

Game in the deepest decadence:
No matchmaking, the most unfair system the video game industry has created is the most appalling thing I have ever seen.
Soft cheats.
Smurfs.
No bans (a real bans).
No room for solo queue.
Server performance on the same level as watching a Commodore 64 run Microsoft Flight Simulator.

Keep focusing on preparing a great and successful TGM26, this is the most important thing for keeping the game alive.

hybrid silo
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Could you give a few examples of buffs you would like to see?

real summit
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There's something wrong with the spawns
I get thrown into third parties all the time or I get spawned very far away from the final cashout with 30 seconds to get there which is impossible

frosty sphinx
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Embark please I beg if you see this, taking away the ranked charms and stickers and giving it to the world tour emerald grind track is dumb. taking those rewards away from people that work hard to get to those ranks in ranked is ridiculous. Don’t get me wrong I’m all for making everyone feel included and like they have something to be proud of but at least take this into consideration. Give the hexagonal charms and stickers back to ranked and make the casual world tour charms the circular ones that used to be from quick play then everyone gets them and the people who work hard and grind in ranked get all the rewards they deserve and give them something that is universal and that they can put on every weapon/gadget. I don’t know about everyone else but I was proud to have hit plat in my 2nd season and was hella pissed when I didn’t get a sticker or charm to show off and I can imagine others are too. Again I’m all of making everyone feel included and happy but making it so I have to hit dia in ranked amd world tour and then stop playing so I don’t hit emerald if I want the dia badge and then on top of that not getting my emerald isnt fair. PLEASE MAKE THE WT CHARMS ROUND AND GIVE THE HEXAGONAL ONES BACK TO RANKED

crude current
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Can the China lake be restored to it's former glory please

shrewd dirge
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Winch is on the same level of crutch as recon & stun gun. Embark really doesn’t know what they’re doing tbh. I think a reasonable compromise would be to at least make it so that you can still shoot at a heavy while being winched. The stun lock behavior of winch is definitely the most abused aspect of it, while I do support its viability to move/defend cashouts.

obtuse nymph
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This is so true.

Ranked H2H please. It will solve every problem. (Best out of three)

rugged vapor
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An option to copy the expression wheel from one contestant to the other, an option to take the hood of the hoodies on and off in the style costumisation and an anime to explain the lore

raw bobcat
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RANKED HEAD 2 HEAD PLEASE

surreal sedge
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Cheeseburger head šŸ‘

calm kraken
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Y'all, i gotta be real...

I fucking love this game. I'd go as far as to say it's my third favourite EVER. But there's two main problems problem that keeps driving me (and many of you) away:

FOMO: Battle Passes, LTMs, seasonal rewards, etc. etc. just put the game at an ungodly level of grindy. If it reduced FOMO even slightly I wouldn't mind shelling out another £35 ($40) for this game like ARC Raiders.

Anti-Casual Systems: How time-consuming the above are, and the extreme competitiveness of every match regardless of mode. It feels like I'm an average Joe put in the Olympics most times, and it's simply not fun.

Fix your game, Embark. Please, for us all.

gritty jetty
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head2head ranked solves griefing, unbalanced matches, inflated ranks, innaccurate seeding, third partying, and slow queue times at high ranks

it also lessens the amount of people in this channel whining for h2h to return

brittle abyss
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Please make the Anti-Gravity Cube lift objects and players 1.5 to 2.0 times faster. That way it can have a little more tech and stall potential. I love heavy but having the same 3 gadgets be meta for 10 seasons is getting a bit stale.

oblique notch
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Just make the ranked system this, Embark. It keeps Cashout and Final Round as core gamemodes but reduces the effects of griefing and allows players to rank up faster if they've got mastery of both gamemodes (or derank faster if they're particularly struggling)

craggy basin
sterile tendon
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POV you are lvl 130+ and want a casual game.

The finals: Throws you into a game that is 5 minutes till end with 2 lvl 1 light players.

Embark. Fix Your Match Friggin' Making.

And don't push people into already lost games, make people WAIT till a new game is available instead of cultivating FRUSTRATION.

narrow spade
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When is Finals going to ban this?
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lean sundial
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NolyX#4912 blatant max level cheater with aimbot and wallhacks, embark does shit, most corrupted trash company protecting cheaters with whitelist

random garden
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tropic stratus
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Need embark to fix ranked matchmaking, explain why I’m plat one with two random plat 4 teammates and I get into a game with 7 rubies 😐

sonic arrow
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Breaking news:

pike found dead in the water after introduction of crossbow

novel trench
jaunty vapor
slender laurel
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Let us message people in game. I’m on PlayStation and would really like to send my PC friends messages without having to join their lobby and talk to them

knotty escarp
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you guys should make items that are selected and the ones in your reserve show up at the front so when you are trying to swap out what you have equped it is easier.

boreal rivet
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Small cosmetic change I want, the various sights you can purchase do not match the decal on the firearm. I really want my glitched out weapons to actually look cool instead of it looking like blank paint on a white wall.

gaunt isle
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Guys, OG player here, i still think that you are loosing a really big oportunity without translating voice to other languages...

royal fractal
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M11 needs some tuning, its very over used and been in the meta for way too long x-x

hearty bough
# shrewd dirge Winch is on the same level of crutch as recon & stun gun. Embark really doesn’t ...

Def the best option to entirely remove the stun - it’s still insanely valuable for cashout manipulation, and if playing tight together it’s still a free kill for the heavy who lands the winch.

Removing the stun will however make it so that landing the winch doesn’t basically gift you a free kill in a 1v1 scenario

Purely CC with no stun is the right place to take winch, maybe give it more range to compensate

gaunt grove
bleak temple
versed eagle
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SAME, I GOT QUEUED IN THE SAME LOBBY AS CARNIFEX AND HIS BUDDIES, TOP 1,2 AND 3 IN THE WORLD IN ONE TEAM, WHY AM I IN THOSE LOBBIES IF IM GOLD

keen lily
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yup, double jeopardy totally works guys, nobody is getting griefed in ever, joke of a ranked system. also I love being usually the only team consisting of solo queuers against 3 stacks

north eagle
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can we get some way to compress this game from 77 gb? can we also get more movement for the movement class? can we also pretty please not make the classes more like each other? can we get running with the dagger, especially if you guys are planning to make the classes closer in speed, which if you couldn't tell, I think is a horrible idea, and I haven't seen a soul calling for that? also light is stale, but I've said that already as well. there aren't very many things keeping me from continuing to play the finals, I just want some more stuff for light, a minor dagger tweak so you can use different playstyles instead of just dash, and assurance that as you guys keep adding maps and nothing else (let alone for light), that I won't run out of space on my pc

dense ocean
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day 68 asking for a free moolah peluche

lavish yarrow
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did you find a fix to this? it keeps happening to me

pure vine
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Ever since Respec Order (even after it's done) casual play has been crawling with sweats and when I log into play my first game casual, and I spend 80% of the game just waiting for a revive, and then 5 seconds alive before I get ripped apart and so is everyone else in my team, game after game, lobby after lobby, I don't know what the hell is going on, but maybe it's just more of a community thing. I started playing this game because it was fun, and it has stopped being that in the past few weeks

lime sky
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Revert Shockwave shadow nerf tf Embark

rain leaf
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Please hitreg and scripted gameplay, we see it šŸ‘€. Make it not so obvious.

carmine token
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THIS

WTF

rich hull
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First of all, thank you for the very, very beautiful game. However, I have just one problem: separating PvP from PvE and making it possible to switch between them would be helpful. We face a problem with treachery; we want to know if we are with enemies or friends. I love the spirit of cooperation and friendship. Playing together to kill ark is fun, and I also respect people who like PvP, but please make it possible to switch between PvP and PvE. I also hope that in PvE mode, players cannot kill other players. This is just a suggestion, and people will enjoy the game even more if this idea is implemented. Thank you.

vestal prairie
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"Lesson Learner" Trophy on ps5 is bugged

ebon hemlock
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pls nerf h infuser. i should not burn all 40 m11 bullets and the guy still not die

dark niche
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i know i sound like a baby complaining about my teammates & i know i'm able to use the lfg channels, but genuinely why am i being matched with people like this. PLEASE let queue times be longer for better matches

civic kiln
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GET RID OF SWORDDDDSSSSS

somber gyro
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Volume slider for the crowd so I can turn it off.

craggy basin
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90% of people here Buff blue team The 10% —> https://youtu.be/5ktmUgHIxas?si=JK352oHhZXIQFs9x

#thefinals #gamedevelopment #melee #gaming

Just a video I'd been debating making for a long time on the state of the Finals. This recent dev stream finally got me angry enough to make it.

Hyperborean Vid: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v1jHvRJ0G6o&t=105s

0:00 Intro
1:36 A Brief History
8:11 The Elephant in the Room
11:11 TF2
13:54 The Co...

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hearty coyote
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Fix the social menus. It would be cool to know if my friends are online or not.

tawny raft
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add graduation cap for those who are graduated

teal obsidian
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Bring back Head2Head. Why tf we only got like 3 game modes

versed cloud
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Turn the anti-cheat back on. The cheating is out of control and your report system is worthless as you don't enforce rules. Also add map voting. MW2 had it back in like 2007 or something. It's only 20 years later.

glad wraith
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For the love of God, please up the footsteps audio cause there’s no way that people should be able to just walk up to me with no audio

dusty blade
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Yo Embark wtf man I just had a ranked game where my teammate disconnected early in the round, then reconnected and we still had a leaving penalty point loss and a ban can you explain and maybe make up for it

old matrix
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If you can get the player counts to make it work, another option to consider for Ranked:

  • Two Ranked modes: Ranked Final Round (3v3s) and Ranked Cashout (12s)
  • Abandon the tournament format, each becomes a single round mode
  • Each Ranked mode has their own leaderboard
  • Make it possible to earn Ruby in either or both
  • Keep it simple
    The gameshow conceit is great lore and wonderful for unranked World Tour Cashout Tournaments, possibly even for official esports, but why be so insistent on these overly elaborate tournaments when people just want to compete and see where they stack up?
    As it is, you can see the problems with Cashout in competitive play already, and griefing is the least of it. Teaming is already a problem and will likely end up becoming even more so.
    Incidentally, if there was one good thing about the Season 3 Terminal Attack Ranked experience it was simply going in and having one head-to-head match.
frank summit
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Fix Match-making and Quickplay before your player-base implodes due to the frustrations you cause by allowing players to do things like leave matches and rejoin constantly. Even I do it, because these matches are stupid. How can you have absolutely zero punishment for leaving Quickplay matches? Anything to prevent this silliness.

daring ingot
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DAY 45 of asking for Head2Head to be added back

charred crest
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I am once again asking for loss protection in ranked lobbies when a teammate disconnects or leaves. I understand banning them does something but it does nothing to help those who have been hurt by their actions.

rocky matrix
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Hey Embark - is the matter of having the entire cashout lobby grief the second place team in overtime out of the match a mechanism you enjoy and plan to keep around or is there a plan to address that?

warped meteor
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Battlefield franchise 95% off rn

tepid ether
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FIX THE SOCIAL IN THE GAME, IT SHOWS PEOPLE ONLINE THAT ARE CURRENTLY OFFLINE.

frosty trout
shrewd comet
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STOP GIVING ME LEVEL 20 TEAMMATES AND BELOW AS A LEVEL 119

lunar vault
# shrewd comet STOP GIVING ME LEVEL 20 TEAMMATES AND BELOW AS A LEVEL 119

Acting like levels matter when i've seen ppl around lvl 30 kicking ass and i've seen dents in the 100s going 3/11, Its purely playtime
It would be better to base off actual skill ratings and not whatever random crap we have rn.
alas this channel is just a shredder and embark dont actually care in the slightest about complaints like this as long as they can keep pumping cosmetics out and farming Unc Raiders for $$$

waxen thicket
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  • Add wallrunning and double jumps for all so everyone can move around the arena like the Pilots from Titanfall 2.

  • Add Rocket Jumping and Grenade jumping by giving all explosives knockback on self, so that players can move around the map like Soldier and Demoman from Team Fortress 2.

  • Similar to both of these games, add an auxillary weapon slot that takes up 2 equipment slots. So you have the option to either have 1 weapon and 4 gadgets as usual, or instead carry 2 weapons and 2 gadgets similar to these games as well as basically all the popular FPS on the market. After all, Finals is notorious for being extremely hard to pick up for newcomers, this would significantly help in accomodating them.

  • Combine Starlight Hollow with PEACE Center and place a castle in the middle of it, and turn the 2 unpopular and underutilized maps into 1 proper Cashout map with a forest biome. Add some ramparts and rocks around to make it less campy.

  • Give Pike .556 to Heavy class. Pike is currently the weakest weapon on Medium, superceded by Repeater and Crossbow in their own ways making it an inferior choice over them in every way. Giving it to Heavy class means Heavy would finally have an actual Marksman class weapon with scope, and since Heavy's potential as poke class is already pretty bad, a bad poke weapon like Pike would be more useful on Heavy than Medium or Light class.

fleet quiver
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yes let's give heavy a long range weapon since we clearly didn't learn from the titan

brittle abyss
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Day 2 of asking for the anti gravity cube to have its lifting speed increased.

bitter scaffold
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can they buff orange team in quick cash they always feed pink the win

solemn sedge
minor star
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Serious feedback on Sword

I played Sword for about 1000h (hit rank 90 with it before) and a few things get lost in the heated "Sword is overpowered/unplayable" discussion.

First of all both sides need to be understood where they are coming from.

Yes in a casual lobby where people don't hit the important shots a Sword that is just running around and left clicking people to death seems absurd, overpowered and has little to do with skill expression.

The Problem is as soon as you cross the line of people investing enough time to hit even just a moderate amount of their shots left clicks become less and less viable and you have to learn combos and movement tricks to minimize the damage you take while maximizing the damage output. That's where the sword lunge comes in. Lunging is the part where skill expression shows with movement, spacial awareness and positioning. With reducing the damage AND introducing a rotation clamp the lunge becomes really clunky to use and less effective than the simpler M1 spamm.

So what can Embark do to fix the issue for both sides ? Put the focus of the weapon back on the lunge to reduce frustrating scenarios.

Second Problem, lunging through an entire team and dealing massive damage with very little counterplay should not be a thing. It is very frustrating to play against and extremely situational. It should be like other melee weapons. Left clicking less damage but can multihit and the "special attack" single target but is special in some way. Hammer has a single target high damage and destruction. Sword should have single target damage on the lunge but high mobility.

The rotational clamp itself got introduced to get rid of people 360° rotating through an entire team for a huge hurtbox and is without multihits therefore redundant. The server sided calculation of it has been bugged ever since it got introduced but has never been adressed. In the current season flicking the lunge will still yank back your entire camera and make accurate aiming impossible.

I intentionally didn't talk about hit registration because it haunts the game as a whole and has only gotten worse in the beginning of season 10 but of course it increases the frustration for alot of people. Hit detection, desyncs and server performance in general should be a heavy focus for you because it is very frustrating and from experience playing with alot of different people a big reason people ragequit or in general leave the game. Like all other bugs it should not be a reason to increase/decrease the weapons power and should rather be fixed.

Changes

M1 Damage 88 -> 74 (one more left click for each class)

Lunge Multihits -> removed
Lunge Damage 120 -> 140 (without multihits and less left click damage you need the combo breakpoint of 136 to have a fighting chance)
Lunge rotational clamp -> removed

Other Feedback

Ranked needs one less round. The current playerbase can't sustain proper matchmaking with 24 player lobbies. Cutting it in half with 12 player lobbies and 2 rounds for everyone so even the "losing teams" play for 3rd place would not only help with players being on similar skill levels but also relieve frustration for the casual playerbase from losing rs in 15 mins but gaining the same amount in 45 mins.

Small QOL Updates You have so many good features that would be little work for you but would impact the community positively and fill the content breaks. One example would be releasing the collected data about weapons etc. as an api just like for example "op.gg" or "lolalytics" from League of Legends. Collab with the talented people in your community that already built sites like the leaderboard/bans/rename tracker. Other ones would be changing the weapon stats to numbers instead of a vague bar so it's more readable, adding assists to the profile or having a simple match history that locally saves the stats of the last 10 games or so.

brisk garden
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Ranked reset should be majorly reworked to keep rubies/diamonds in diamond. The first half of the season sucks so much every time because you deliberately erase the skill ratings of high skill players and shove them all into gold/low plat. Just make the ranked rewards into "win X ___ rank tournaments" and we'll enjoy competitive matches for the whole season.

dry plover
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Give medium full auto M16 that rivel Fcar ( we don't talk about AKM, because if the dislike gun by embork (jk))

full jetty
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game is still a piece of shit

worn pier
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Please add SMAA embark, the game still looks so bad without DLSS

rustic vault
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Couple of QOL/community features.

Wish we had access to more weapon and gadget stats; I want to know my playtime, accuracy, headshots with weapons, uses and damage blocked with gadgets, how many quick melee elims we have, and just more concise breakdowns on the career stats in general? Why isn’t assists a metric we are able to see? And vault steals/plugs?

Now I know they have this ā€œ8 billion points of dataā€ it irks me how little we have access to, knowing that such a simple thing like a little more data can go a long way with players.

Club highlights, club colour scheme and some simple generic club colour cosmetics, club hub where you can browse recruiting clubs or filter type of club e.g competitive, social, game mode specific. Maybe there’s a highlights page in there where club clips, screenshots and community highlights can be seen.

It’s lore accurate too because surely in a VR world even outside of VR in a sport/contest setting there would be some sort of central hub. You could put all sorts in there: fashion/cosmetic contests and ways for people to post/rate those, private match server list where you can list/see games maybe even spectate, i’d love to be able to spectate some games whilst I am afk, could even have twitch feeds of partners.

We needs DMs for friends, even if it is locked to generic replies like ā€œI am unable to play at the momentā€ ā€œI will join you next gameā€ ā€œThanks for the gamesā€ if they want to limit social freedoms for the potential abusers.

Let us change scopes in practice range and maybe casual modes, having to leave and restart the range just to change scope seems really inefficient and breaks the fluidity of the game.

last mirage
ebon isle
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In club menu ui there could be a discord join button where one could insert permalink so it would be easy to join the club discord since many have one

wild epoch
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Hello! I'm having an issue with the voice chat in the game — it's not working at all. I can't hear my teammates, and they can't hear me. My settings seem fine. Is this a known bug, or is there a fix? Thank you!

strange ermine
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I've been experiencing a weird bug with Medium shotguns lately. It's rare, but they'll automatically fire a shot when I stop sprinting. With the Model it's whatever, but this really hurts when I'm using the Cerberus and I lose 1/3rd of my killing potential out of nowhere.

sterile tendon
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When you set someone on fire, dies and you see "dead by fire" instead "killed by..."

pearl sleet
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Once again asking for thick body type for medium and light

slim cedar
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Improve Ranked Matchmaking for Veterans
High-level Ranked matches are currently being filled with brand-new players. This creates an unfair and frustrating experience for everyone.
My Proposal:
Please implement a separate "New Player Queue" or specific servers for beginners until they reach a certain career level. Ranked mode should be kept for players who have mastered the basics to maintain competitive integrity.
We love the game and want to keep playing, but the current matchmaking is driving dedicated players away. Thank you!

pine raft
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queue for the first ranked match of the day as a low platinum player: perzzon and carnifex on enemy. ty embark. fuck you honestly.

facing a 3 stack ruby premade in the final round gets you 1k rs. when you are plat. if you win them :DDDDDDDDD fucking joke

limber orchid
tender glade
severe forge
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add this

lean sundial
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SavvyRodeo#8733 embark you cucks, new account full rage cheating wallhacks aimbot kernel cheats and you can't detect, fk this game, cheater on every other match, nice next match again another cheater with new account FocusedOrb#9081 NICE embark U SUK LIKE YOUR EX-CEO, YOU ARE FULL OF CUCKS USELESS CORRUPTED MANAGEMENT. ANOTHER GAME ANOTHER CHEATER UzayTv#0118 TURKISH CHEATING SCUM, BRO CS2 HAS LESS CHEATERS THAN THIS SHIT. I QUIT

spark shard
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Game in the deepest decadence:

  • No matchmaking, the most unfair system the video game industry has created is the most appalling thing I have ever seen (gold and platinum solo queue vs diamonds reaching ruby, ruby or esports players in stack/team... such a system aberration is impressive)
  • Soft cheats.
  • Smurfs.
  • No bans (a real bans).
  • No room for solo queue.
  • Server performance on the same level as watching a Commodore 64 run Microsoft Flight Simulator.

Keep focusing on preparing a great and successful TGM26, this is the most important thing for keeping the game alive 🤔

warped meteor
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Bring back Head 2 Head

earnest grail
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Would love to see the removal of Riot Shield

manic isle
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allow us to combine 2 facewears

shut elk
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So why can people just barrel stuff a heavy barricade and shoot through it? LOL

dry meteor
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just took 1st in Ranked match and no RS adjustment wth??

keen lily
warm sky
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Made +800 the last two games and didnt get any of it thanks i guess

warped bison
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what happened with rank ???

feral kettle
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Nice..
Just played ranked ended up second in the final round shouldve gotten 684rs but a bug.. didnt get any points…
This is so wack about the finals the inconsistency and bugs.
Also ranked, i literally have games passed week with four different divisions in one tourney.. diamond, platinum,gold and silver, even gold to ruby in one tourney(asia server). Oh yes lets make another version for chinese people, cut half the player base in for asia and let the rest bleed dry, also let the chinese developers make a game with cooler more affordable skins. Honestly the last year hasnt been great and the last half year is quite horrible. I still enjoy ranked matches but the inconsistency in matchmaking is going to kill this game

final ice
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are the points going to be removed/added back when the bug is fixed

vital sand
pale frigate
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ranked bugged i guess???

junior tartan
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Nerf winch into the ground

crystal shadow
restive fiber
scenic spade
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Please bring back Terminal Attack for custom matches!

mild gull
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How to correctly balance the 93R

The recent 93R changes made it an overpowered light deleter while having basically no effect on the classes it struggles against, which are medium and heavy. Hence, Embark needs to look at other ways to balance it rather than altering the damage.
This can be done by making the burst delay shorter, which will make it more viable against ALL classes while not making it overpowered versus lights.

Proposed 93R changes:
RPM - 1000 (current cycle rate)
Damage: 24** (revert from 25 back to 24)**
Burst delay: 0,284s > 0,235s (RPM 210 -> 260)

This change will result in the following TTKs (Time-to-kill):

Body:
light: 0,52s -> ~ ** 0,71s** (7 shots) (does NOT 2 burst lights with body shots only)
medium: 1.21s -> ~ 1,12s (11 shots)
heavy: 1.68s -> ~ 1,54s (15 shots)

Head:
light: 0.40s -> ~ 0,415s (5 shots)
medium: 0.81s -> ~ 0,71s (7 shots)
heavy: 1.21s -> ~ 1,065s (10 shots)

Damage drop-off minimum range: 30m ->** 27m**
Damage drop-off maximum range: 37.5m ->** 34.5m**
Damage Dropoff Modifier @ Max Range: 50%** (it stays the same)**

Keep the mag size at** 21** to preserve the 93R's punishing nature.

These changes will make the weapon solid while not making it overpowered; for comparison, the ARN, a weapon with effectively a 60 round magazine, more range, and fully automatic has TTKs that are on average 10% faster than the 93R (except light). This makes it effectively a completely superior option while being easier to use and way more forgiving. Missing a burst on the 93R means you are extremely penalised in your killing potential. This isn't the case for the ARN.

I feel the need to mention that the 93R had these TTKs in this proposal until patch 2.9.0, yet it wasn't used because of its high recoil and lower range than the XP-54 at the time. So it wouldn't be an unprecedented change. We now have better range and lower recoil, so now is the time to truly balance this weapon once and for all.

solemn badger
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I use the cl-40 and only using that got to diamond with it

the weapon lacks any ttk on other M & H (this is fine btw)

( keep in mind the only weapon the cl-40 will have a better ttk is when fighting a pike when in a MVM match up)

But if u want to reward more direct shots increase the velocity of the shots and maybe make the cycle animation to be slightly faster i am fine with less splash damage but plz then make it more in line with what u have said for wanting direct hits with it

Dev Note: The CL-40’s effectiveness is not great compared to many other Medium weapons. We know facing the CL is frustrating for some players, so we want to be careful with how much we buff it, but these changes are needed to increase its viability. The aim is to incentivize more direct hits with the CL-40, rather than less accurate splash damage shots.

I would also love 2 see data reshaper cool down to be faster ( I do not use it but it takes 28s to come back feels it should be faster if u want more out of it )

aps buff to make the area it blocks lager or let it take more projectiles out as well

And plz watch this

https://youtu.be/5ktmUgHIxas?si=JK352oHhZXIQFs9x

brittle abyss
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Please increase the lift speed of the anti gravity cube

molten crater
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give us the points we were supposed to win during this period where rs didn't change after ranked matches

waxen thicket
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Add an auxillary weapon slot for all classes, with any of the following restrictions:

  • Takes up 2 equipment slots so players get 2 weapons and 2 gadgets like every other multiplayer FPS and making it easier to pick up for newcomers from those games, or

  • 60 second cooldown+Empty reload on weapon swap to make sure players stay back when running out of ammo instead of pushing in with the 2nd weapon, or

  • Equipped as a gadget with only 1 mag in reserve and 60 second cooldown for a new mag to make it usable only during critical moments

  • Only shotguns, melee weapons and grenade launchers available for that slot making it more niche and limiting it's versatility

More than one restrictions may be needed, however an auxillary weapon slot is necessary for the game. An extra weapon slot would make offmeta, niche weapons more useful outside solo queue and would make weapon balancing much less annoying, as too many weapons depend on unfair exploits to be usable by the average player without team coordination. While team coordination would make this even more powerful, overall everyone would be more powerful with available counterplays to make up for their own and team's weakness, making the game more fair for everyone. Everyone gets more powerful, so overall balance stays intact while also reducing dependency on teammates for critical wins.

daring ingot
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DAY 46 of asking for Head2Head to be added back

idle thorn
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Having incredible amounts of fun getting third partied on every single cashout while one team got all 3 cashouts completely uncontested. They're not even rubies or smurfs, it's just that some oxygen wasting npcs decided that they have to grief us on every cashout.

hollow badger
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Ban rubies from casual modes

old minnow
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Please give us more contestant slots. I’m tired of having to kill off my favorite loadouts to play new ones we need at least 20

brisk tiger
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"Why is the DLSS option missing in the NVIDIA app?"

pine raft
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fix ur fucking matchmaking. ranked unplayable and wt places u in with rubies just like ranked :D what the fuck am i supposed to play in this game?

the way u handle balancing this game really shows that this game was born from someones childhood dream since everything u do is so fucking unprofessional. just like a child would do.

snow flint
cursive sinew
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Is there a way to turn off emotes in menu? Like an option to disable emote spam from my teammates that I am queing with? If not, can we add that? That would save me so much of my sanity ā¤ļø

ruby marsh
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Fix the servers, a whole game just get disconnect

mental fractal
hollow sierra
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hey man, if i lose 100 games in a row cause im bad that's fine, if i win a close game that's awesome, fantastic even
but like yall keep adding all these wack a doo doo teammates on my team, some of them take 2-3 business days to turn 180, while stacking 4-5 diamonds on the other team so we get spawn camp half the match, and then another game u get me another lobby with all new players on the other team and they cant even break 1 grand vault, a pity fabricated W

what is the game trying to communicate here? are you shooing me away or telling me to buy more to get premium treatment, what is it? i as well as many others have money to spend but like this is some really bad faith behavior, do you guys hate people who play your game or sth ? In the past few days im playing less and less, i may stop giving a fk eventually (good riddance ik), at this rate may just go back to play all the bootleg mobile fps from my backwater country. Cant have shit on the internet nowaday cause all the old devs believe in that engagement matchmaking bs, like did that shit ever get tested in a team based game ? I imagine it would work so much better if it's a 1v1 type shit but when im designed to lose thru no fault of mine but a rigged set of 15 other people, i just want to find where u (dev) live and go there to have a heart to heart conversation, as in im gonna rip out yours and put it close to mine (in minecraft ofc)
wah, sr, it's so hard to be nice with yall while playing your game, im sure u understand. anyway pls fix that instead of cranking it harder to spite us

white pine
# old minnow Please give us more contestant slots. I’m tired of having to kill off my favorit...

You have my axe on this one šŸ™Œ

Also

My sword rework idea:

A) a mechanic where either perfectly timed swings would have an audio/visual queue and do higher damage, and/or if there was a "sweet spot" on the weapon where if I'm hitting someone with the tip I do more damage than if I'm hitting with the hilt.

B) Another thing you could do with it is maybe give it combos and more animations, ie cancelling the lunge with a swing does a different animation, or swinging from crouch/slide/air does different animations and different damage. Leading to several different optimized kill combos for different classes based on how you entered.

honest wing
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stabbing works in blood west, thought you should know that embark

vernal girder
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When is the heal ball going to start deploying correctly 100% of the time? The recent air-deploy method helped a bit but it still "fails" and goes on cooldown at least 10% of the time

finite ferry
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Is item XP showing at the end of the match or am I blind?

winter falcon
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Add Fov slider for weapon and for world separately, now no point of tattoos when you can't see them

silent grove
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remove starlight hollow

teal obsidian
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BRING BACK HEAD2HEAD the only people crying about that game mode where the devs. You guys have dog shit game modes fix it

sonic spoke
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Making everything a WT has destroyed the fun. Now everything is sweaty. No testing out new load outs in quick cash.

wide vortex
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DELETE WINCH AND REWORK RPG AND FIGURE AND MAKE RANKED 3V3 OVER ONE BOX SINCE WINNING STRAT IS ANYWAY THIRDPARTYIN

severe forge
edgy berry
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Why doesn't point break have killcam. That seems like such a simple and obvious thing to point out cheaters, but for some reason it doesn't exist

rugged vapor
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An option to copy the expression wheel from one contestant to another, an option to take the hood of the hoodies on and off and an anime to explain the lore

white flint
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Please bring back Head 2 Head.

trail kayak
plucky vault
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I have 2 options in ranked 1 turn off cross platform and wait 40 min for a game or 2 find a game fast but go against ruby controller players with zims and aim assist dashing at 1000 mph while landing every shot. im not even exaggerating how little skill it takes and how annoying it is to feel in the difference between fighting someone on mnk vs controller and i guarantee half of all the controller players are not just using the controller and its night and day who im fighting against. And say they are not using anything they just play heavy and just w key and by pass all the visual clutter in the game and have perfect crosshair placement with no recoil through any explosion smoke extra. This is not call of duty tone the aim assist down please.

heavy sail
manic isle
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give us a shoe hat

mellow bloom
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Make it so you can select the iron sights on the revolver from default to the snub skin sights

copper blaze
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Remove low gravity from the game.
Nobody enjoys it.

hazy mountain
fervent dove
main vale
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add sex to the game. Everyone likes it other than that one bum who complained about it yesterday.

arctic summit
austere pewter
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increase medium demat charges

smoky relic
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3 things, first, FIX. THE. MATCHMAKING. It genuinely feels unplayable, 90% of my games have been three seed or higher, and my team almost always loses in the first round, but when I get a 7 or 8 seed I win the whole thing, it's absurd, not to mention the abhorrent smurfing problem 2, balance the fucking game properly, winch and shak are still absurdly broken, and this is coming from a heavy main, medium is still just a victim, in the saving medium season btw, dash is still the only viable option on light it feels, 3rd listen to your community, and respond to their criticism, I get a lot of people on here are just complaining, and being whiny little bitches, but respond, and make the people feel heard, if it's a stupid idea, let them know, if it's smart, let them know and look into how it would work in game, but for the love of God, please do something.

rain leaf
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The game steal the explosion of my red barel, the game was win, but loose cause the game is scipted. We see you EMBARK šŸ‘€. We play a lot so we know it.

wintry patrol
pine frigate
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Welp I didn't think I could do it but I finally uninstalled, I first played in season one and have played consistently since season 3. It really saddens me but this game brings me nothing but pain anymore lost the fun factor through all the diamond-ruby ranked/tryhards in "casual", smurfs, stale meta, unreasonable nerfs/buffs and terrible matchmaking. I question Embark's intentions or care for this game nowadays having more cosmetics (generally reskins/recolors) added to the game than actual content or fixes for known issues. Most of my friends have quit for similar reasons that or the issues with the game won't allow them to play anymore due to their lower hardware. Again I loved this game and what it was but considering most times I play it at least in recent seasons I find it hard to relax and enjoy the game, I still wish to play The Finals as there is no other game like it and the gunplay/destructible environments are amazing but it has simply left me with a stockholme syndrome kinda feeling. Again I wish the best for The Finals and its future but as of now it just ain't worth the increase in cortisol and the constant hopium that next season will be better just to be likely disappointed again. I hope to return one day but as of now I don't see that being likely, for now though have a good one yall. hug_friend

elder cedar
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Hey Embark what about these cheaters changing names BETWEEN matches while playing ranked... and not mentioning their wallhack Sanguine#5740

ocean citrus
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Embark what happened to the prices in Ukraine? You literally introduced a reverse regional pricing, we need to pay ~23$ for a 20$ bundles. Wow yeah it makes sense as we must be richer then the US i guess?? Like what is happening. I used to be a whale, i’ve bought every single battle pass including ultimate passes, pretty much every bundle but I guess you lost 1 whale and I can guarantee you im not the only one who’ll stop spending money on this game because of that.
Not spending a dime until you fix this issue, i really hope you do.

late prairie
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Bring back Head2Head

bold cedar
tawny orchid
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Add an option to turn off queue clicks on melee weapons, like sometimes im spamming left click and i kill the person so i stop clicking but it still does an extra slice which slows me down a bit. its not a buff its not a nerf its just a quality of life setting like the option to turn of melee aim assist.

fresh creek
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why is there a penalty for leaving in WT when ure already down to a 1v3???????

surreal sedge
lucid canyon
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my game wont let me join error code tfge0003

prime oxide
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same

lilac moth
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I just want good servers

vapid inlet
dry quartz
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same

grand gulch
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Matchmaking failed over here

primal zodiac
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just queued my diamond ranked game nice

dull monolith
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FIX SERVERS PLEASE

glacial finch
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Hot Fix Please

paper gale
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In tournament and cant get in

teal hearth
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Codebreakers broke the finals

pure vine
# pine frigate Welp I didn't think I could do it but I finally uninstalled, I first played in s...

seriously considering it myself for many of the same reasons, and I've been playing multiple nights a week since season 2. The meta is broken, tryhards are all over casual making it impossible to move without getting ripped apart (as a heavy) by a squad of three lights that appear simultaneously out of nowhere, the heavy hints from the devs that melee should go away,

I will keep saying, buffs are fun, nerfs just make me stop using it.

I'm a heavy main and I'm starting to play light just because I can at least stay on the playfield and zoom towards a dead friend, pick them up, zoom away and revive them, it's like all we can do at this point to keep each other alive, much less worry about objectives. I've rage-quit multiple times this season, and I think up until season 10 I rage-quit exactly once

embark please listen to the casual players for casual, and the pro players for ranked, don't listen to money. I'll keep sinking money into the game if it's good, but I can quit any time

rigid oxide
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Are we likely to see pixel spear at some point? (To match pixel sword and pixel dual blades)

radiant basalt
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pls fix server

raven spindle
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servers down?

gusty lantern
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what happend to the finals

dry abyss
lavish temple
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servers are down

random leaf
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How long does it take embark to usually fix the server

jade viper
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in my experience it's normally within an hour or so at max

lofty hornet
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I'm going to keep requesting this every season.

Please for the love of god, make weapon skins / loadouts attached to outfits.

crystal storm
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Remove winch claw

rancid cloud
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Servers are down fellas

queen harness
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I didn’t know and now I have ā€œreconnectā€ on a ranked match that i guess doesn’t exist??? šŸ˜­šŸ’Æ

sonic spoke
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Game is up but connecting to servers times out, with and without cross play on

solemn badger
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servers went down when i went to play ranked i cry

lapis anchor
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Bring back head2head while your at it

half loom
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where can you write to them for getting the RS back?

vast musk
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Have you tried turning it off and back on again šŸ™

last nacelle
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Idk fix the matchmaking 😭

honest wing
verbal oxide
remote spade
lapis harness
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Fix the fucking gateway. Like why am i throwing it multiple times in the same place for it to finally pop like fr whats the point of it randomly deciding not to link???

little edge
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Native HDR when?

simple forge
green bear
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Guys, Embark did something wrong and banned one of the admins of the Spanish community, and now the whole community is angry and doesn't want to play anymore. F in the chat, please.

elder wyvern
hard arrow
grand roost
wide tangle
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I don't speak much English, but here goes. I’ve noticed—and I get the feeling you already know this—that the game has a serious issue with character rendering. When you get killed, the FPS skyrockets even if you’re loading the map (with most graphics settings on low, actually, except for rendering, which is on high, of course), and there are enemies around you, and just being in spectator mode boosts the FPS a ton. They should look into that and see what’s going on, and if they fix it, maybe The Finals could reach more computers, where people can’t always afford more powerful hardware. I honestly don’t know if this is the specific issue, but the moment your character is eliminated and switches to spectator mode, the FPS skyrockets. šŸ™‚

dark niche
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make dagger alt fire function like TKs & fix the gateway bug where it will occasionally bounce, like, 20m away before opening pls

waxen thicket
versed cloud
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Low gravity is straight up horrible. So is the anti-cheat.

fiery glade
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i hate when a box is activated in overtime and i spawn closer to the box which has no chance of benefitting me vs spawning closer to the cashout I could have stealed if I wasn't 200m away

mortal fractal
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Buff model 1887

ruby talon
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this might be a bit of a hot take, but i think that the cashbox should have some overtime while its being stolen to make it possible to get a steal in the last few seconds of the cashbox. those last few seconds always end up being weird and just creates some downtime where the box doesn't even need to be defended, and its annoying when you get a team wipe but dont have enough time to finish the steal on the box. having some overtime can make the system feel more intuitive and also would make the last few seconds actually matter to defend the box

yes, if my entire team gets wiped then i think its reasonable for the other team to get the vault

restive warren
autumn jay
spark crown
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ADS bug is still in the game plase fix

versed hazel
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game becomes very difficult to play when my power goes out. in fact its like my whole pc goes unresponsive. someone should look into this.

uncut hedge
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fix the third party, teams helping each other is pathetic embark, fix your dead game

unreal zodiac
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YO embark spear mythic skin thats darthmaul lightsaber DO IT NOWWWWWWWWWW

lilac bolt
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add the maximum number of people in one team plzzzzzz I always have multiple friends online at the same time but can’t play together

dark mauve
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I sincerely hope, with every single iota of my being that embark goes out of business.

minor star
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Serious feedback on Sword

I played Sword for about 1000h (hit rank 90 with it before) and a few things get lost in the heated "Sword is overpowered/unplayable" discussion.

First of all both sides need to be understood where they are coming from.

Yes in a casual lobby where people don't hit the important shots a Sword that is just running around and left clicking people to death seems absurd, overpowered and has little to do with skill expression.

The Problem is as soon as you cross the line of people investing enough time to hit even just a moderate amount of their shots left clicks become less and less viable and you have to learn combos and movement tricks to minimize the damage you take while maximizing the damage output. That's where the sword lunge comes in. Lunging is the part where skill expression shows with movement, spacial awareness and positioning. With reducing the damage AND introducing a rotation clamp the lunge becomes really clunky to use and less effective than the simpler M1 spamm.

So what can Embark do to fix the issue for both sides ? Put the focus of the weapon back on the lunge to reduce frustrating scenarios.

Second Problem, lunging through an entire team and dealing massive damage with very little counterplay should not be a thing. It is very frustrating to play against and extremely situational. It should be like other melee weapons. Left clicking less damage but can multihit and the "special attack" single target but is special in some way. Hammer has a single target high damage and destruction. Sword should have single target damage on the lunge but high mobility.

The rotational clamp itself got introduced to get rid of people 360° rotating through an entire team for a huge hurtbox and is without multihits therefore redundant. The server sided calculation of it has been bugged ever since it got introduced but has never been adressed. In the current season flicking the lunge will still yank back your entire camera and make accurate aiming impossible.

I intentionally didn't talk about hit registration because it haunts the game as a whole and has only gotten worse in the beginning of season 10 but of course it increases the frustration for alot of people. Hit detection, desyncs and server performance in general should be a heavy focus for you because it is very frustrating and from experience playing with alot of different people a big reason people ragequit or in general leave the game. Like all other bugs it should not be a reason to increase/decrease the weapons power and should rather be fixed.

Changes

M1 Damage 88 -> 74 (one more left click for each class)

Lunge Multihits -> removed
Lunge Damage 120 -> 140 (without multihits and less left click damage you need the combo breakpoint of 136 to have a fighting chance)
Lunge rotational clamp -> removed

Other Feedback

Ranked needs one less round. The current playerbase can't sustain proper matchmaking with 24 player lobbies. Cutting it in half with 12 player lobbies and 2 rounds for everyone so even the "losing teams" play for 3rd place would not only help with players being on similar skill levels but also relieve frustration for the casual playerbase from losing rs in 15 mins but gaining the same amount in 45 mins.

Small QOL Updates You have so many good features that would be little work for you but would impact the community positively and fill the content breaks. One example would be releasing the collected data about weapons etc. as an api just like for example "op.gg" or "lolalytics" from League of Legends. Collab with the talented people in your community that already built sites like the leaderboard/bans/rename tracker. Other ones would be changing the weapon stats to numbers instead of a vague bar so it's more readable, adding assists to the profile or having a simple match history that locally saves the stats of the last 10 games or so.

hybrid hearth
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Give me my money back I’ve spent so much money on the game 😭

gaunt cliff
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BRING BACK HEAD2HEADDD

clear haven
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Make it so WT and Ranked rewards are earned in real time just like the badges.

mild gull
#

How to correctly balance the 93R

The recent 93R changes made it an overpowered light deleter while having basically no effect on the classes it struggles against, which are medium and heavy. Hence, Embark needs to look at other ways to balance it rather than altering the damage.
This can be done by making the burst delay shorter, which will make it more viable against ALL classes while not making it overpowered versus lights.

Proposed 93R changes:
RPM - 1000 (current cycle rate)
Damage: 24** (revert from 25 back to 24)**
Burst delay: 0,284s > 0,235s (RPM 210 -> 260)

This change will result in the following TTKs (Time-to-kill):

Body:
light: 0,52s -> ~ ** 0,71s** (7 shots) (does NOT 2 burst lights with body shots only)
medium: 1.21s -> ~ 1,12s (11 shots)
heavy: 1.68s -> ~ 1,54s (15 shots)

Head:
light: 0.40s -> ~ 0,415s (5 shots)
medium: 0.81s -> ~ 0,71s (7 shots)
heavy: 1.21s -> ~ 1,065s (10 shots)

Damage drop-off minimum range: 30m ->** 27m**
Damage drop-off maximum range: 37.5m ->** 34.5m**
Damage Dropoff Modifier @ Max Range: 50%** (it stays the same)**

Keep the mag size at** 21** to preserve the 93R's punishing nature.

These changes will make the weapon solid while not making it overpowered; for comparison, the ARN, a weapon with effectively a 60 round magazine, more range, and fully automatic has TTKs that are on average 10% faster than the 93R (except light). This makes it effectively a completely superior option while being easier to use and way more forgiving. Missing a burst on the 93R means you are extremely penalised in your killing potential. This isn't the case for the ARN.

I feel the need to mention that the 93R had these TTKs in this proposal until patch 2.9.0, yet it wasn't used because of its high recoil and lower range than the XP-54 at the time. So it wouldn't be an unprecedented change. We now have better range and lower recoil, so now is the time to truly balance this weapon once and for all.

hollow badger
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bring back vegas tripwires and turrets

feral elm
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No effort made to address the CL40 buff that was basically a nerf ? I think the mid season patch is super underwhelming.

faint saddle
#

Yet another patch of light nerf and vanish bomb nerf and Shak winch going untouched another time, great

honest wing
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ive never laughed so hard in my life, you cant be serious šŸ’€ icant

late prairie
#

Bring back Head2Head

dusty igloo
#

How is winch still not being nerfed

naive thunder
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what would you suggest as a viable nerf to the winch, bro what even .IM PUT ON SLOW MODE FOR 6 HOURS ???????? THE HELL ?

hard arrow
echo panther
#

no winch nerfs?

solemn badger
#

Why is the wheel back?!?!?!?

signal basin
#
  • Vanish nerf
  • M11 nerf
  • V9S nerf

FFS stop nerf every light weapons and just add 1 dmg to the XP-54

Or fire the balance team. They only play Medium class in TDM apparently.

No winch nerf. No thermal vision back.
Damn, I never see a so poorly balance and I played Apex !

Servers, Matchmaking, cheaters... and now this. Wow

slow quartz
#

WHY AM I GETTING KICKED OUT MID GAME FOR THIS UPDATE???

empty zodiac
#

Goo gun nerf before winch nerf. It just shows how delusional developers are. Goo even not that popular, yet it still get nerfed for some reason, making complex gameplay less viable, while making one-shot dumb tactics more and more reliable. This devs are cooked, they DONT listen to community, until it's too late or they make the dumbest decision. Recent AMA stream really showed it. (Or probably they are avoiding biggest problems, bcz they can't solve it)

mellow narwhal
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This update has some w’s but also some questionable changes:

Vanish bomb nerf is very good having invis and dash is insanely broke and I’d much rather a rework to vanish bomb to something else to reduce the amount of invis in the game

M11 nerf is questionable the gun already required good recoil control for range kills and decent aim up close, it was still outclassed by xp, v9s, 93r, lh1 etc

Shockwave being reverted so you can do movement tech is amazing generally keep this idea in mind when balancing more things with tech (tech = skill expression it’s a lot more fun for players to have skill expression in the game other wise the game becomes cod 218375 )

No winch nerf is very upsetting as it by a mile out classes all heavy specs thanks to it almost guaranteeing a free kill /dmg, proposed change would be to remove the stun and/or nerf the range, it should not be a spec you throw out instantly in every fight (that’s a crutch and no one likes crutches)

craggy basin
#

Revert the Goo nerf

half quarry
#

please make the previous limited game modes accessible in private match, there are so many gamemode you guys made that we cannot play right now while we just don't know what to do aside from death matches when hosting private matches today, I feel like it cost you nothing, would be beneficial and easily addable to the game if you did this so I really can't understand why you don't

crystal shadow
#

they did not fix the rakend problem with the rp

lapis kiln
#

What do they mean by changing the rank distribution?

twilit cypress
grand crow
#

Great balance patch
Great LTM
New best collection event system
Most stacked store update since launch
And a flamethrower skin in the circuit?
Also the music is fucking awesome

hollow kelp
#

very good patch

sterile canopy
still axle
#

Why bringing back the wheel of luck event ? This is so lame !

karmic fulcrum
#

I can't bind my account to my Xbox account,Who can tell me the method

subtle smelt
#

When I saw the wheel was back I feared the worst.
Thank you for eliminating Dupes!

EMBARK FTW

slow crescent
#

Why are you continue nerfing stuff... Why are you can't understand that your actions is stupid... EVEN ARC RAIDERS PLAYERS say same point(i saw shorts with that topic)...

RIP GOO GUN, THX EMBARK

wise hearth
#

do they read feedback here or it's better to leave it on their site where you text with a bot?

austere hemlock
#

15k for a win in the new mode is waaaaayyy to low. Increase it

valid marten
#

LTM good perma mode pls

spark shard
#

Game in the deepest decadence:

  • No matchmaking, the most unfair system the video game industry has created is the most appalling thing I have ever seen (gold and platinum solo queue vs diamonds reaching ruby, ruby or esports players in stack/team... such a system aberration is impressive)
  • Soft cheats.
  • Smurfs.
  • No bans (a real bans).
  • No room for solo queue.
  • Server performance on the same level as watching a Commodore 64 run Microsoft Flight Simulator.
  • Kyoto map still here.

Keep focusing on preparing a great and successful TGM26 (and of course, the store!), this is the most important thing for keeping the game alive 🤔

hearty bough
# signal basin - Vanish nerf - M11 nerf - V9S nerf FFS stop nerf every light weapons and just ...

They buffed the XP by 1 damage a season or two ago and it was immediately OP. If anything they could potentially increase effective range by changing the damage dropoff distance, but damage needs to stay where it’s currently at.

Hard agree that winch needs a nerf, it’s too frequently a free win button in a 1v1 like charge and slam used to be (back when it did 130dmg per hit).

I think the ideal change is to entirely remove the winch stun and instead give it back some range or slight cooldown buff - that way it’s still massively useful as a cashout manipulation and CC tool, but doesn’t gift you the 1v1.

There will still be scenarios where the winch is basically an instant kill, but at the very least the winching heavy needs to have teammates right next to him to pull this off.

tawny oak
#

do server maintenance, these updates are a joke, how do you do "balances" but you dont bother touching the servers

dark niche
jolly dagger
#

Give me freedom give me fire
Add bigger hats to merch store or i retire

hard badger
#

bro the new event is so boring, it all comes down who has the best weapon and that is obviously the sledgehammer (that can one shot) and the riot shield, they are dominating this mode. Also why do you give the crossbow 5 arrows only °°, thats so stupid and is the worst weapon in that event

broken bolt
#

R.I.P. Rankeds Games. This is not fun anymore, when u meet again stack of premade rubys in your lobby when u are Gold and have gold teammates. This situation killing my love to this game. For now i leaving ranked games to avoid anoyed mood. U fk this up Emborg. U made from fun to play game suffer event better than League of Legends, Cod.

  • Rubies Lobbies
  • Smurfs
  • Boosted Noobs

nothing changing durning 2-3 seasons, still this same awfull lobbies.
I can acept a few situations like this but man...
The best time to play is 21:00- 1:00 C.E.T.
When u came 12-20, to play u force to meet rubies...

Funny thing. I am meeting rubies wen i can reach the plat...

wheat aspen
wide vortex
twin helm
#

ltm to no surprise is garbage

sudden trail
#

props like helmets, spears, shields on the ground in the dragon ltm should be carriable objects

west kernel
#

Embark Please, keep this daily permanently. i don't want too much daily ESPECIALLY WIN 1 MATCH

inland grail
upper citrus
#

Fire your balancing team

plucky estuary
# empty zodiac Goo gun nerf before winch nerf. It just shows how delusional developers are. Goo...

On top of this, the thing they were trying to nerf, which is using a whole magazine to stall someone is still doable. The biggest impact this has is still on using goo gun with close range weapons to close the gap. They COULD have done what every goo gun player has been suggesting and have each consecutive goo stun on the same player stun for less time, but instead we just get a major nerf to the least used specialization in the game, but of course when nerfing the m11, they make sure to also give it a minimum range buff to make sure it remains the most used light weapon.

late mulch
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holy bro
why tf im facing ruby players while playing in Golden ranked

low plover
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Stuck on the black loading screen of doom ._.

mighty vault
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are you not fixing crashing on startup while upscaled?

mossy lance
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  • Revert goo change. You're killing goo gun as a whole since you cant cocoon yourself anymore or run away as easily. You're taking the most fun spec and most interesting forms of skill expression in all of gaming and killing it. Goo stun is a genuine non-issue since only loadout that relies on it is goo sledge, and sledge is a melee weapon where they have to put in insane amounts of effort just to stay alive. There will always be people complaining no matter what. But its much better to have a game in which the fun things still exist even if a few people complain about something that is literally just skill issue.
  • Bring back Head2Head. Quick Cash is a terrible game mode in general. Getting 3rd partied is the absolute most frustrating thing in this game, why would I want to play a mode that is solely about 3rd parties?? Head2Head was a lot shorter, more fun, great for warming up, trying out new loadouts, practicing final round, etc...
  • Increase your marketing budget by at least a dollar, PLEASE.
  • Ban smurfs.
  • Make it so that rubies can ONLY queue up with and against other rubies or diamonds. Ruby should be an exclusive league where only the truly best are. No Ruby should be queueing up with golds in order to boost and be paired up with plats. It's not fun for the rubies since it's not challenging, and its not fun for the rest of the player base. Rubies, plats, golds, and gold should NEVER be in the same game. No exceptions.
plush spruce
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The matchmaking in this game is absolute hot garbage. Games are mostly one-sided. Embark, do you think you might see player growth if people didn't uninstall after their first couple of matches? frogonesie 🤢

dawn steppe
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bro why do they nerf goo this is just stupid and also why do they KEEP ADDING LIGHT COMSETICS AND WEAPON SKINS LIKE HOLY FUCKKKK LET ME GET A EVENT REWARD THAT ISNT JUST A LIGHT WEAPON

lilac dome
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Embark has really outdone themselves this season.

muted plaza
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great patch embark! more useless balances that no one asked for!!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ktmUgHIxas

#thefinals #gamedevelopment #melee #gaming

Just a video I'd been debating making for a long time on the state of the Finals. This recent dev stream finally got me angry enough to make it.

Hyperborean Vid: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v1jHvRJ0G6o&t=105s

0:00 Intro
1:36 A Brief History
8:11 The Elephant in the Room
11:11 TF2
13:54 The Co...

ā–¶ Play video
serene estuary
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Why couldn't they just buff cloak instead of nerfing vanishing grenade

soft cairn
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Hello Embark,
After reading the patch notes, I’m honestly surprised to see no changes regarding the winch.

Right now, it’s extremely frustrating to play against: getting grabbed around corners, sometimes even through walls, often results in a free kill for the Heavy. It really needs some reworking to make it feel more consistent and fair to fight against.

The same goes for the Light’s Healing Infuser — how has this still not been nerfed? Being able to fully heal a Heavy (or anyone else) in less than two seconds feels way too strong, especially in certain team compositions.

Thanks in advance for your work and for listening to the community.

Sign : A ranked player since the open beta.

warped meteor
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Big fat ass rank ass sitting-on-the-shelf nothing burger patch.

Bring back head 2 head, and actually do something healthy for the state of balance jfc are you daft? Find the monkey in charge of balance changes, fire them, seat a smarter monkey,

stray wing
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  • Revert goo change. You're killing goo gun as a whole since you cant cocoon yourself anymore or run away as easily. You're taking the most fun spec and most interesting forms of skill expression in all of gaming and killing it. Goo stun is a genuine non-issue since only loadout that relies on it is goo sledge, and sledge is a melee weapon where they have to put in insane amounts of effort just to stay alive. There will always be people complaining no matter what. But its much better to have a game in which the fun things still exist even if a few people complain about something that is literally just skill issue.

Couldnt agree more to this reply, and if permagoostun is unfair you could implement so many better changes. Like gostun decresing incrementally if repeatedly beeing hit: 0.8-0.7-0.6-0.5-0.4-0.3 and capping at 0.4,3 or even 0.2. But this change is just so lazy and takes so much away of this spec

low skiff
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CHANGE THE FKIN RANK SYSTEM. MAKE IT BASED ON PERSONAL PERFORMANCE BRO. IVE DROPPED DOWN SO MUCH BC MY TEAMMATES FEED KILLS AND THEN LITERALLY GO AFK ONCE YOU ADDRESS IT. I should not be fkin punished for having shjtty teammates every fkin time i solo queue ranked.

dense ocean
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day 69 asking for a free moolah peluche hehe

pine raft
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really waiting to see that extra rs coming my way since all the matches just make me lose more after the patch. nice one again embark

i was actually optimistic when i read those patch notes but instead of making it better, its just fucking worse :D

  • u got rid of leaver penalty? got a leaver in my team and lost 1077 rs, no reduction, nothing

literally chatgpt could manage this game better than your whole team

sonic spoke
feral shard
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Game can't surprise me anymore
If you wait for nothing in the patch notes
You cannot be surprised

fierce patio
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Demat delay yaaaa u know the drill

sonic arrow
arctic bay
slender pine
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You nerf invis bomb cause it had high pick rate but you leave defib and rpg alone when they have 100% pick rate šŸ˜‚

Also you nerf goo gun but you leave winch alone. God damn u r dumb

runic sierra
# slender pine You nerf invis bomb cause it had high pick rate but you leave defib and rpg alon...

yeah dev team has gone hard incompetent since early seasons

its been SEVEN seasons since the last melee weapon was added

since then melee has been continually gutted

been playing since s2, mained sledge since s3, the quality of my playstyle and the overarching macro game has deteriorated significantly

the game has lost its sandbox potential as they continuously nerf niche playstyles like goo (which by the way, was not oppressive, and there were dozens of proposed reworks but they refuse to indulge them in light of the competitive community which has the game by the neck)

speaking of, season 1 and open beta was significantly more fun than the current game and i wholely believe if they reverted the game to day one the playercounts would go up significantly, because with all of their pandering to the competitive community, theyve killed any ounce of tech and "fun factor" even if it was unbalanced because big surprise, not everyone wants a clean balanced game, sometimes people just want FUN, i remember when seeing a sledge player actually gave you a sense of "i should run" or lights actually felt like glass cannons so getting killed by them just incited anger i(in a good way imo) and killing them felt just that much better

but apparently everything has to be serene and balanced (because thats what rubies want, theres literally a discord call essentially of rob giving the high level players permission to cheat saying their anticheat doesnt flag them, the reason sword got gutted btw was because of rubies, same with goo gun)

i dont think people realize this; nearly almost every balance decision since season 3 has been decided by the competitive community, thats why this games casual community is so horrible and the competitive one is so competitive

its nothing to do with skill floor the devs have artificially killed off niches until only a "meta" remained

worldly otter
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I got kicked by AntiCheat because of OBS capturing the Game Window mode instead of my whole Desktop Monitor.

/- - -/

Got kicked out of the game the other day for No reason at all. In My POV said Server Error when I returned to the menu. But for a friend in the Lobby said it was something about fair play whatever.

Get the AntiCheat right and validate what software can be open (like OBS, everyone has OBS come on)

coral tapir
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Thank you for reverting Shockwave

brave copper
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When is the mid-season update that addresses the issues with the most dramatically high pick rate items like defibs, and dash? Or the obvious pain points like winch and sword... and defibs?

Your inability to take a serious look at medium is getting so old.

molten fog
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one of the worst mid season updates this game has ever released

crude jasper
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WE NEED A PING INDICATOR, THANKS.

bronze plover
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Hiiii ik this is kinda unrelated to the gameplay but I think it would be nice if the lobby backgrounds could be made into steam backgrounds? Idrk how that process works but I would love it if this season’s lobby bg was a bg on steam! Idk if this is the right channel but yea that’s what I joined the disc to ask lmao😭✨

primal frost
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Can we standardize the gold colors on the outfits? everytime i want to mix and match gold outfit pieces they always look slightly off because basically every outfit with gold in this game has a different shade of gold

mellow bloom
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Give lights actual recoil so there’s some semblance of skill please

urban sandal
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Add an option where you can buy previous ultimate battle passes only if you bought that premium bp when the season started

crisp heart
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add hud safezone / hud centered position / keep hud in 16:9 area for ultrawides PLEASE

keen lily
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another patch and again nothing about the absolute dogshit matchmaking, gg

lime sky
raw flicker
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Please daddy embark dragon scale armor skin. I will pay you please

smoky wing
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servers down?

autumn jay
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I love playing the world-famous, free-to-play, combat-centered game show The Finals developed by Embark Studios

spice zenith
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Chimera was fine where it was, hardly anyone uses it.
M11 needs more of a nerf, this change will not make people swap weapons.

pearl vector
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yo ban these mf alr, been running rampant for a week now, stacking cheats on asia PR4JNA#1323

rain leaf
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I'm done with this game, it is really good but just "on paper". Nothing about matchmaking, nothing about aimassit, nothing about cheaters or smurf or boosting that was usefull for me to stay. You can say "like other game" but i was done with the other long time ago. Game industry is broken by design even if a game is really good it is not fair. The 5 hours cool down here is talking by itself, shut down freespeech of what we really feel. The game is not fun anymore. I quit.

limpid arch
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Remove the ranged weapons on the new game mode. It's just annoying to have a light shooting arrows at you and you can't do nothing to stop him cuz you only have melee weapons

umbral pebble
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Please stop asking for feedback after the First round of a LTE....

frank summit
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Its a poor and frustrating experience for both long-time player and new player when you smoosh them together to form a team that never stands a chance against the enemy team due to them not having a new player. These guys spend 8 minutes struggling to do anything, possibly 2 kills in an entire TDM is normal to see from new players, with up to 12 deaths being normal, and 20-30 being ONLY uncommon to see if they're a Light that's especially pushing solo frequently. Youre creating a toxic environment where people just get frustrated with one another because skill isn't being considered at all.

solemn sedge
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Thanks embark for killing goo sledge, and not touching anything else in the heavy meta since season 5 šŸ„€

dusty igloo
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10 BILLION MORE SEASONS OF WINCH. Lets nerf the non meta goo but keep this winch in its current state for 7 seasons straight

tired fable
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we have to wait mid season to have a decent balance and we got only light nerfs patchnote, we are supposed to enjoy it ?
ngl this is pretty sad

tacit whale
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Finally! the people are waking up to the winch plaguešŸ˜®ā€šŸ’Ø
All you need to do to fix it is REMOVE THE STUN AFFECT ENTIRELY. You can’t rework the taser and then leave the winch in this state.

grand crow
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This event is awesome
It's the first time since S7 that I've felt like the game really changed, even if it's in an LTM

versed hazel
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why did goo get nerfed AGAIN? u guys tried this nerf 2 weeks ago and EVERYONE hated it. 😭 embark???

novel trench
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Shockwave revert is fantastic, love to see the Vanish Bomb changes to further reinforce it as a team utility tool and not a selfish GOOJF (get out of jail free) option. You’ve acknowledged it cannibalizes the cloak spec, but do you have any idea of what changes the spec could have to make the two more distinct?

brave moss
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Starlight Hollow still sucks butt but this event actually works because it is primarily melee. Also dragon / dinosaur themed cosmetics are too enticing to skip.

odd cedar
north sinew
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Wishlist in store would be nice to find quickly things we wanted to buy. New store bundles are sexy af, well done Embark. Much love to u

haughty lintel
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Would love to see the stickers be physical stickers that we could buy and put on our water bottles or laptops etc. Sticker packs could allow for the players who love the game to support the game further, promote the game without burdening the marketing team by simply marketing their things with the Finals, themed stickers that could be purchased in the game, giving you a closer connection to your own contenstant. ANd could do a hashtag to promote it, allow those to rep their finals stickers, and hopefully get more players into the finals.

uncut hedge
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fix the resapwns, last match si always the same thing, spawn camping

ocean citrus
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Embark fix this ASAP! Revert the changes you made to prices in Ukraine. Reverse-regional pricing is a SCAM and should be ILLEGAL. I have no idea how it was allowed by valve and sony. Give us the original prices back! Same for arc raiders btw!

karmic prawn
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A litlle post just to say that the support of this game is BAAAAD .Got banned for a false anti-cheat trigger likely do by "Fan control" ...Needs 10 DAYS TO HAVE A RESPONSE , the guy said you are suspected of cheating ...THX SHERLOCK , I play since season 1 and have spent HUNDREDS of dollars but it seems like they don't like money after all . I've not cheated but they don't watch the logs of the anti-cheat before responding after 10 DAYS ??? Some of you players have had the same situation ?

cyan wolf
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Why does the wheel keep coming back???? I’ve never once seen anyone say they enjoy the wheel events. It is fundamentally flawed, and malicious as hell

dark niche
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why has heavy had some of the best gadgets, weapons, & specs for so long??
winch, rpg, dome, & shak need nerfs if things like demat, dagger, & GOO GUN are getting them

winter lance
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uhh new game mode kinda boring i dont even know the name of it please make it a 8v8 and give us atleast a little customization

vernal girder
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does anyone know if the new "throne away" (holy hand grenade) or "shatterbrew" grenade skins have any custom effects? both are gold rarity - we need to be able to see this stuff in the shop

latent ermine
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Im trying to get in contact with support but it creates 1 ticket and the whole thing is ai and ive run out of options to choose from. How do I get ahold of anyone real please?

tired meadow
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https://discord.com/channels/1008696016318513243/1502011599265730610
Really Embark?! So many of us wrote entire paragraphs explaining why changing goo from 0.8 to 0.2 was killing play styles. We offered solutions like ā€œnerf the amo count on goo gun to prevent permanent goo stun,ā€ or ā€œmaybe make it 0.6 seconds,ā€ but you didn’t listen at all. Nerfing it down to 0.35 just kills all sorts of play styles reliant on goo stun, including heavy melee, dagger, and heavy’s defensive abilities with goo gun. There is now no point in running goo gun. The goo already breaks incredibly fast and now people could just rush a goo gun user and there is nothing they could do. The term ā€œEvil Valveā€ really fits you guys the way that you eliminate cool and fun tech just for the sake of control.

cold bolt
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goo change only nerfs goo gun which barely anyone uses, even less so at high elo level

if you wanted to nerf goo grenades just take a charge away and don't compensate by reducing the cooldown lol

wide vortex
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WTF Is this goo nerf? Are you f stupid? WINCH is the real cancer,

ripe herald
grand hare
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DONT REVERT GOO NERF

solar garnet
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Nerf sa12

torpid quarry
#

New mode freezes every 5-10 seconds

obtuse nymph
worldly oak
hollow cypress
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This game has gotta so bad this is by far the worst season absolutely horrible I’ve been here since beta so I’m very disappointed

simple hill
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Why does dragon claim not count towards world tour?

winter cloud
gritty jetty
languid wagon
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Bring back bank it pls

last mirage
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played since 2nd beta, tired of the bad balancing with the destructive nerfs instead of preserving the dynamic gameplay. I uninstalled because of this recent 10.6 update and how much they really didn't care about the melee communities input on the stun mechanics. the community literally offered alternatives to nerf the goo gun, but nope lets just indirectly tear down goo grenades as well right? this sort of balancing has been constant since the start of my time playing this game and I think this balance philosophy that embark has is something that is destructive to its games. which makes me not want to touch another game made by embark if they keep killing whatever unique mechanics that are there intentional or not.

potent peak
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Hey concerned about melee... Take off the lunges and have M dual swords should have a redirect cool down or limit

keen walrus
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UI bug with wrong specialization shown above the player. if anyone swaps classes in TDM they show the previous spec instead of their current spec

craggy basin
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REVERT GOO NERF

shadow steppe
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Anyone else not able to use "Expressions" in the main menu? I have seen the key bind for expressions in the main menu for a while now but it doesn't work.

merry anvil
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That v9s change was random and unnecessary lol

severe talon
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I land on a golden ticket slot in the new reward spin wheel and got no golden ticket

surreal sedge
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Make the white & black speckled part along with the cape an upper back item that can be used in any outfit please & thank you

ebon vault
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Yall what the hell... you had a good thing going with the recent event changes to how you earn rewards and now we're back to this fuckass wheel of bullshit... abysmal

untold drum
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please fugging remove duos from ranked for S11, im so tired of getting double lights playing off meta as a solo. its genuinely so annoying they cant get kills, stall point, or even move the box AS LIGHTS. its soo scuffed and anti the competitive ranked spirit, idk how its still in the game when solo que is what new players see first. idc if you put us solos into trio lobbies again or against rubies just for the love of god remove duos from team matchmaking in ranked. yesterday i had double my pr in ranked while stalling the box the entire game and i still couldnt carry the typical clanned light duo, its actually hell. duos are literally the first to start trolling in most matches and theyre toxic as hell in chat i get called some misspelled pretty mysognistic shxt and its never not been a duo that does it. theyre not even new players btw!! its fugging duos who are active in the game just choosing 3 grenades each and fragging out playing tdm in ranked, let them go to WT to duo and throw games and give us a real ranked mode please i beg. lol i literally qued into another light duo while writing this, all grenades... i havent got a good light or a non light duo since yesterday lmaoo i actually dont know what to do other than just get off. its either i play light and dictate a game to the win which gets boring or i get a pair of scuffed axx lights who get on chat to talk shh to me when i dont eventually save them, at this rate im going to end up chalked on a werid game like fortnite or fall guys. its actually a blender

wild lion
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Hey embark you guys removed all of the dlc from the Xbox store and I've had the TFCP0005 error when purchasing since season 1. I've tried 3 times to get it fixed but your customer support is basically non existent and the one time I got past the AI to talk to a person they didn't even read the full convo and closed the ticket before i could ever even respond to them. The Xbox store was the only way I could purchase dlc packs for the game and now I am literally being told I am not allowed to give you money. It's really infuriating cause like I want to give you my damn money, money is in my hand, the skin is in your hands, just let me hand you my damn money. Now even the work around has been blocked so I am completely unable to just give you money for a skin.

wise rain
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In light of trying out the goo changes, I cannot believe you for some reason hate melees being used on off meta specs that you would destroy the goo+sledge combo so completely.
You seem to think that the only viable spec should be winch as you base all your melee changes on heavy based on the winch and every other combo gets caught in the crossfire. SO FOR SOME REASON making goo gun unviable with melee is your solution.
There were so many other ways to nerf goo stun chains and this definitely wasnt one of them.
If you actually listened to any goo heavy you would hear "yes i feel like i commit war crimes doing goo stun and there MIGHT need to be changes" and we would say something along the lines of "make subsequent goo stuns shorter and shorter if chained in a row" or even me suggesting we could just make goo blobs phase through players, preserving the length of a stun but making it harder to block the head, meaning to stop steals you'd have to goo the feet then stack another one on top to goo the head.
It is unbelievably obvious that you both do not know what or how to balance melee or even heavy and you dont even ask players if they have nerf suggestions.

and let me remind you about suvivorship bias as I go play overwatch and start to watch this game burn down as you make your "relaunch" which has started off terribly and I now believe you guys vibe code your updates considering how broken random BS is every time like slide and forgetting to add you tried to nerf shockwave.

cloud parrot
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all the new stuff this update looks super cool, the helion set and the inner workings P90, i hope some more stuff gets made in this style. ranked seems to be back to how it was last season after this change, which is interesting because i thought you guys were making it less punishing but it was made MORE haha, so you had to turn it back? back to when it still needed improving

smoky relic
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Embark, Fix. Your. Fucking. Game. Listen to your community, I see Great ideas in this channel, and no changes, this channel feels like a paper shredder, genuinely your game is dying, the player count is dropping, and new people aren't playing the game because not only is the skill floor already high, when they play the game they get stomped by top 500 smurfs, or just get griefed out, genuinely embark please do something

austere tinsel
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we need more custumizabvle options for weapons. like for example i should be able to put at least 10 different scopes on my gun and mabye choices like weapon stock. (you can keep it minimal to not make the game like siege) this gives alot of better options for types of gamplay

grim dagger
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don't know what happend, but every game is full with H - playing anything else is zero fun now.

echo bronze
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We need an uwu voice pack, plz. Launch it alongside a Miss Demeanor sale, it's free money.

signal basin
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If only your balance team was good as the skin's team... damn the game will be top tier

lean leaf
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Hey Embark peeps! Hope you’re all well. How possible would it be to get more spaces in the clubs? I have a bunch of subscribers that ask me almost daily if there’s more room in them and it’d be nice to get more of them in! ā˜ŗļø

Maybe we could keep the private ones at 100 limit and do bigger creator ones maybe 300? Not sure how possible that would be.

Thanks,

Chonk šŸ’œ

slender pine
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your balancing team gets an F for nerfing goo gun while leaving winch as-is

and nerfing the invis bomb is insane too 😭 absolutely nobody was complaining about that

radiant panther
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Please add a wishlist update for store where you can wishlist your favorite store bundle/item and it would have its own separate page to view so you dont have to scroll around finding it

Bonus: add notification for when its on sale

ebon umbra
hearty bough
rain wolf
tidal flume
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Subject: Feature Request - Adding "Total Assists" to the Career Profile Card
"The current Career Profile in THE FINALS lacks a key metric that defines team play: Total Assists. While Kills, Deaths, and Revives are important, they don't tell the full story of a player's contribution to their team.
Adding 'Assists' to the Career Card is necessary for several reasons:

  1. Highlighting Teamwork: Assists are the primary indicator of how well a player coordinates and supports their teammates during combat.
  2. Class Balance representation: Roles like the Heavy and Medium often focus on high damage output and area control, frequently setting up kills for others. Excluding assists devalues their impact.
  3. Rewarding the 'Playmaker': Many players focus on tactical support rather than just final blows. A complete profile should reflect this 'Playmaker' stats to provide a fair assessment of skill.
    We urge the development team to include Total Assists in the career overview to better celebrate the collaborative spirit of THE FINALS."
broken tiger
open crag
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Did anyone else experience an uptick in hackers yesterday? I was doing point break with friends and 5/6 of our matches had some obvious cheaters. I'd get headshot from across the map through like 3 layers of trees and they'd always know where you were even when invisible. We typically fight hackers like one game a day but yesterday was infuriating

pure vine
#

you can tell Embark only cares about light when we get another event toting 5 weapon skins, but only 1 for heavy, 1 for medium, and THREE FOR LIGHT.

Why not make it 6, 2 skins for each class?

still rose
#

simple ask, please add magnifex to the ARN. Looking glass is the ONLY "enhanced" zoom level on it

raven garnet
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why does the pike ads have recoil and shake like i'm trying to full auto a 50cal

mild quartz
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Delete TDM and bring back Head 2 Head. Point Break is better TDM anyway.

cerulean breach
#

I was thinking of a rework for Turret that involves barrels for example you can pick up a fire barrel and insert it into and it becomes a turret that starts to shoot like fire like from flamethrower and that can happen with all the other barrels as well and for like the gas barrel in like a 8m 360° it spreads gas around itself so you can put it on top of cash out and it will admit gas from 8 m away 360° around it

void scarab
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please for the love of god, get rid of sword in ranked because it's such a pain in the ass
or just remove dash when equipping sword
sword multi hitting is a serious joke..
removed it from sledge but sword can.. please..

heavy patrol
#

quick cash is just grenade launcher simulator now

maiden steppe
#

fix this for fuck sake, i am plat everyone i play with is low plat or gold and yet im fighting diamons and rubys. WHY WHY WHY. my very next match was even more ruby players with my team being 30k 29k 28k. likw what did yall do to the game for this to be a thing. i been playing before closed beta and never had this problem, now every match is just unfair top play.

royal fractal
#

M11 still needs to be nerfed more

narrow socket
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Greetings Embark. I have been enjoying the game for the most part. There are a few issues that I think could use a little adjusting. First, a light with dash, cloaking, and swords is almost impossible to defend against. This is especially true if you are a new FPS player. This is the first FPS game I have played and have found that the 3-combo I mentioned is far too overpowered. If they had to do far more attacks to get a kill it might not be as bad. Next, I played as a heavy using the two pistols. I could not believe for a moment that I completely missed every shot from both guns at almost point blank range. I am starting to question the quality of the game when things like this happen. Along the same lines, I had an issue with the grenade launcher on the medium. I am not sure if that weapon was nerfed, but if I get someone down to two bars and land a shot at their feet, how are they supposed to walk away from that and kill me. I have been side-by-side with opponents and we are both low on health and a shot at the ground between us only kills me. Really? Please take a look at some of those weapons and their accuracy. Thanks for taking the time to read this, if you do.

vestal prairie
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Every time match making is touched it's fucking tragic

cobalt pendant
#

Constructive suggestion:

Considering most players read top to bottom, left to right.

In the World Tour menu,

Why not move ā€œPracticeā€ to the top of the screen where ā€œCore Modesā€ is located?

The middle stays ā€œQuick Playā€.

Swapping Ranked/Cashout position with Practice Range/ Private Match would inherently benefit all players.

versed eagle
#

KEEP THE RANKED MATCHMAKING AS IS, IT IS WORKING, I NEVER IMAGINED SEEING MYSELF GET +RP

arctic olive
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The ranked system is genuinely awful right now. It’s basically just a grief simulator, especially once you get into high Plat to low Diamond and above. Your attempt at ā€œdouble jeopardyā€ only made the griefing problem worse.

For example, if you’re in 2nd place with 32k cash and 1st place has 36k, you basically end up in a 1v3 against the rest of the lobby. The bottom two teams need a chance to qualify, so they focus on doubling your cashout, while the team in 1st also benefits from griefing you out to secure their spot. Because of that, a team that realistically doesn’t deserve to move on can suddenly qualify just because of a final-minute team-up situation.

A lot of competitive players would probably agree that this isn’t competitive or fair in any way. It makes no sense for the weakest teams in the lobby to still have a chance purely because they can temporarily ā€œteamā€ with the team in 1st place.

On a completely different topic, why are there still 24 players in a ranked match when the game doesn’t even have 5k active ranked players? Then people wonder why matchmaking is so bad and why Gold players are getting matched against Rubies. Having two knockout rounds in a game with a relatively small ranked player base just doesn’t make sense.

This message isn’t meant as hate toward Embark at all. I genuinely love the game for what it is, and I think it has a ton of potential if the competitive scene gets fixed.

molten fog
sonic spoke
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Sigh. Not enough dev attention to the game anymore. Everything is sweaty now. Make WT progress limited to ranked, cashout, Powershift, and Pointbreak.

steady kelp
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Please, Please, Please, add the LTM mode songs to Spotify

wide summit
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the bow should not be in this limited game mode, it makes it unplayable dealing with that many lights with bows

cursive urchin
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Make Vanish Bomb apply an area of effect field that limits how far invisible players can move, so they are contained within a counterable zone. This keeps the ability interactive and readable, while preserving Cloak as the distinct, full mobility invisibility option.

sterile tendon
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Hope people got their 3 spin tickets... game servers kicked me twice in a row. Great 1st day šŸ˜‚

BTW lovely how you turned quick cash into grenade launcher perma event

summer elk
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Embark, change the match intro into something like this and you're gonna see tons of love

charred mulch
meager shuttle
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game feels like total ass everytime you guys do an update.

somber hare
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wheel sucks, please go back to the old system

dark niche
lilac dome
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We have to have nicknames for friends

paper falcon
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I can shoot a riot shield in the feet but not dual blades when its held up chest level. Absolutely ridiculous

upbeat ore
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How much time spent retooling melee when pre-nerf sledge and sword were pretty much perfect, and full of self-expression? You even have winch, shockwave, dash, flamethrower, all of these counters but you still insist on polishing off any unique playstyles or self-expression beyond "who can handle AR recoil the best". sigh

fluid raptor
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make it so you have to plant the second vault when you're trying to double on box. grief meta is literally no different than without jeopardy its a genuine joke

LIKE BRO FOR THE FIFTH TIME TODAY THE FIRST PLACE TEAM LOWK HARD CROSSTEAMS WITH LAST PLACE TO HARD GRIEF MY TEAM WHAT ARE WE DOING THERE IS NO COUNTERPLAY

IM AT FUCKING 44K SOLO Q L TRYING TO HARDCARRY MY 35K DOUBLE HEAVY TEAMMATES WHILST A FULL DIA 3 STACK CROSS TEAMS WITH ONE OF THE TWO TEAMS IVE BEEN HARD SHITTING ON ALL GAME HOW IS IT FAIR

west skiff
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revert goo 😭

exotic elk
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this LTM is soo good

solemn sedge
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embark give me my goo sledge back you literally destroyed the thing ive spent 2 years perfecting

late prairie
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Bring back Head2Head

wide tangle
# waxen thicket I personally have never faced this, because I have the game on SSD. You're talki...

No, I don't mean the game itself when you enter spectator mode, as I mentioned before—since your character isn't rendered, the FPS goes way up. What I mean is that in this area, we're losing significant FPS that could help improve in-game optimization, since not every PC runs this game really well, Anyway, to sum it up, I mean that if there’s a problem or whatever happens when your character is rendered and the FPS drops compared to spectator mode when you get wiped, you should investigate that and, if it can be improved, do so, since the game would be more suitable for those PCs that don’t run it quite as well.

Also, I’m using a Ryzen 7 7700, an RX 9060 XT, 16 GB of RAM, and of course the game is on an SSD, I have 16 GB of RAM and will be adding another 16 GB module soon.

tall spoke
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ADD THE LTM MUSIC TO APPLE MUSIC PLEASE

trail flame
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There are waaaaaaaay too many suspicious low level accounts. Alternate/smurf account players need to be permanently banned across all accounts. Keeping cheaters and exploiters out of the game is what's going to bring this game over the top. Right now I can't trust that I players aren't exploiting when I see low level accounts like level 11, 16, 12, 4, and they are playing like a level 100+. Expert map knowledge, better than all the other 100+ level players in the same match. This is what's going to kill your game if you don't address this immediately.

pulsar mural
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why the support when you do a ticket is so slow? i have around 8 days waiting for the answers?

lucid prism
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buff m11 please the recoil is too strong and i cant hit a single bullet even at close range

lime violet
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I'm going to pop a blood vessel every time you guys nerf niche specs/tech

native helm
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feels odd that the new LTM doesn't give World Tour progress

onyx gulch
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aye i just spun the same thing on the wheel and it didnt give me a golden ticket bugged me out

jovial needle
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i think the AKM needs a VZ58 skin

sick pier
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fully remove winch from the game

craggy basin
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REVERT GOO NERF

crimson plank
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buff spear and make it throwable

steel otter
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Make all LTMs available in custom games

teal obsidian
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BRING BACK HEAD2HEAD. NOWz

steady flame
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i really like the new game mode but why would you make a game mode filled with melee just to give lights a ranged weapon like of course everyone is going to be ranged light and i can barely catch them i dont get why they didnt get sword or dagger.

royal mango
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why tf does it takes 5 full minutes to boot up the game now???

dull tiger
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Plz stop adding maps with huge line of sights melee users cannot deal with maps like Bernal Kyoto and starlight hollow

clever moss
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bring back the bat pet PLSSS

bitter cobalt
half briar
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Nozomi point break has the most braid dead spawns in the entire game by an order of magnitude

safe ravine
# steady flame i really like the new game mode but why would you make a game mode filled with m...

If u really played it, u wouldn't be saying garbage like that.

The gamemode is pretty fair, grapple and bow is nerfed (along with other weapons and gadgets) accordingly to make the match balanced, and IT IS.
By no means is range in this mode broken.. I've more often had easier time playing melee, than mage or ranger.
If u cant catch any lights, by just counter picking with a warrior, it's just a skill issue atp.

I've played this mode a lot, and it was clearly designed like RPG, need tank, healer and dps... And when that happens, it's the most fun!!
I'm all for being critical towards Embark, but this is not one of those times šŸ™‚ we finally got something different and refreshing.

GG Embark ā¤ļø

carmine token
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i've seen this bug before but it's really prominent now, almost every round, there's issues with player identities. in three rounds of the new game mode, i've seen

  • multiple players named PLAYERNAME
  • players on the opposing team named the same as me or my teammates
  • multiple people on my team named the same thing
  • player portraits at the end of the round copied from mine onto the other players, with just different backgrounds
    none of these issues appear in the tab menu or bottom left, that's all fine - but the names above player heads, the before-round-start menu, etc, are broken as hell
scarlet star
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Anyone know if there's any plans on bring back the CNS sponsor? It's a bit annoying that if you went Vaiiya that season that you just can't sign with CNS now that all the sponsors are available to sign and swap around with as you please other than CNS. I get that they aren't technically a sponsor of The Finals as the other companies are but still. Sorry if this belongs in a different chat

surreal bluff
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an april fools LTM where each body type has access to every weapon, gadget and specialization could be really funny (and extremely unbalanced)
lights with rpgs, jump pads, vanishing bombs, demat and flamethrowers could be utterly abysmal but funny in a absolutely broken kind of way

steel marsh
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Was anyone else wrongfully banned?

hearty bough
slender pine
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nerfing goo gun over winch makes me think yall starred in The Ringer

vague nebula
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There a discord by the name of DVS services selling arc idems and tools for duping and whole accounts...they also sell different cheats someone needs to stop them

gritty jetty
tender glade
shut elk
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Good to know that ranked is still shit

ancient sable
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make it so u have to be level 50 or higher to play cashout or rank ranked cashout

rigid zinc
amber edge
supple cedar
wooden atlas
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I love the new LTM mode—it might be the best one since Heavy Hitters. Like Cashball was a good idea, but it depended so much on the matchmaking giving you a good team. Pretty much every match was a blowout. This mode has a lot more depth, and the matches don’t usually feel very one-sided. That said, I do think it could do with some improvements to the loadouts. Basically the Barbarian and Rogue are the meta. The Warrior is usable but not nearly as good, the Paladin is useful but highly situational and dependent on team comp, and the Mage is almost entirely useless. Not too sure of the best way to fix this but it’s just kind of a shame that an entire loadout is never played and for good reason

blissful fable
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THANK YOU GUYS FOR FIXING SHOCKWAVE

idle wharf
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fuck you guys and what you did the the sword lunge

hearty dagger
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šŸ”„ bring back 2x frags šŸ”„

full jetty
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why am i always mismatched with teamates on ranked cashout? balancing caters to terrible players

tired meadow
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Okay embark, WHY did you make the zone, barrier, whatever you want to call it, INSTANTLY teleport forward in point break?! I don't want to randomly die because the zone just teleports on top of me as soon as the last grand vault gets destroyed. give the defenders some time to retreat instead of just killing them!

lime sky
slate mauve
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Couldn't join a single game for over an hour. All regions. Fully verified install. No VPN. Restarted PC.

Your servers suck, Embark. How "Server Not Responding; We cannot connect you to a match" , waiting loops, connection timeouts and all the triggered server codes doesn't trigger a single alarm to your support teams is honestly baffling. Even for gd Practice Range... Embarrassing.

Everytime I feel like playing the game that you so willingly neglect and ream through all its ends, you find a way to fuck it up in a new way.

I genuinely don't know why I bother giving this game another second of my time. The gameplay can be great. The community is arguably great. I will never shun the music or the sound design (cept Merry League, fuck that track).

...but Embark, I just want to play a fucking match. Not be bombarded with fomo shit, shitty matchmaking, and even shittier servers.

waxen thicket
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  • Add wallrunning and double jumps for all so everyone can move around the arena like the Pilots from Titanfall 2.

  • Add Rocket Jumping and Grenade jumping by giving all explosives knockback on self, so that players can move around the map like Soldier and Demoman from Team Fortress 2.

Also, like the aforementioned games, add an auxillary weapon slot for all classes as well, with any of the following restrictions:

  • Takes up 2 equipment slots so players get 2 weapons and 2 gadgets like every other multiplayer FPS and making it easier to pick up for newcomers from those games, or

  • 60 second cooldown+Empty reload on weapon swap to make sure players stay back when running out of ammo instead of pushing in with the 2nd weapon, or

  • Equipped as a gadget with only 1 mag in reserve and 60 second cooldown for a new mag to make it usable only during critical moments

  • Only shotguns, melee weapons and grenade launchers available for that slot making it more niche and limiting it's versatility

More than one restrictions may be needed, however an auxillary weapon slot is necessary for the game. An extra weapon slot would make offmeta, niche weapons more viable outside premade team comps and make weapon balancing much less annoying, since the secondary weapon would cover the shortcomings of the main weapon. Overall everyone would be more powerful with available counterplays to make up for their own and team's weakness, making the game more fair for everyone. Everyone gain an equal amount of power, so overall balance stays intact while also reducing frustrations of soloqueue and smurfs by improving individual player agency.

tidal flume
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Dear Embark Studios Design Team,
To ensure the long-term viability of THE FINALS as a premier tier-1 competitive shooter, we propose a strategic recalibration of core gameplay mechanics. The following "Evolution Protocol" is designed to incentivize skill-expression, reward aggression, and optimize the tactical flow of every match:
I. The Combat Fluidity Initiative (1.5% Regeneration Offset)
• Mechanical Shift: Implement a 1.5% reduction in Health Regeneration Delay for every elimination secured.
• Strategic Intent: To mitigate the "Third-Party Vulnerability" window by rewarding successful engagements with faster recovery.
II. High-Octane Pacing (The 3X Combat Streak)
• Mechanical Shift: Introduction of a 3X Elimination Streak system with a strict 12-second decay threshold.
• Strategic Intent: To eliminate objective stagnation. If a team fails to engage within 12 seconds, the momentum resets, forcing a proactive combat rhythm.
III. The 12% Survival Mastery (Perks at 5 Kills Without Dying)
• Mechanical Shift: Class-specific "Performance Multipliers" triggered ONLY upon securing 5 consecutive eliminations without being defeated:
• Heavy Class: Grants a 12% Movement Speed increase.
• Medium Class: Grants a 12% Max HP augmentation (Total 280 HP).
• Light Class: Grants a 12% Max HP augmentation (Total 168 HP).
• Strategic Intent: Rewards "Survival Mastery," granting a tactical edge to players who maintain dominance without dying.
IV. Environmental Intelligence (Tactical Mini-Map)
• Mechanical Shift: Integration of a real-time HUD Mini-Map revealing acoustic signatures (unsuppressed fire).
• Strategic Intent: To raise the skill ceiling regarding spatial awareness and discourage static "corner-camping."
V. Integrity-First Spawning (Infrastructure Overhaul)
Mechanical Shift: Deployment of a dynamic, randomized, and safety-validated spawn algorithm Strategic Intent: To eradicate Spawn-Lock scenarios and ensure equitable entry points

dusky pasture
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Need some unbreakable cover around the vault in Point Break.
When defenders destroy all the cover, it becomes almost impossible for attackers to reach the vault.

hollow sage
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I know it's not a huge deal, but I'm stoked about the round-end music for the new LTM. It's awesome! I hope that this will also be attached to the Season 10 map going forward, but I haven't tested to see if it is right now. Dragon's Claim is great!

cedar cave
shrewd dirge
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Can someone explain to me why you lose RS for placing better than Embark expects you to?

glass light
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let us refund ranked tokens once per season

royal pivot
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can embark the matchmaking i lost 5,000 rr in a span of one day

novel skiff
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Why are the classes locked in the new game mode? So bad being restricted!

pliant lichen
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How much ##### p### do the devs need to consume before kyoto is removed from rotation, like actually? How many Terrabytes before low grav is removed? Genuinely curious.

twin helm
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im 4k away from diamond but i just cant bring myself to play ranked anymore its too unfair and stressful

urban hatch
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NOONE CARES ABOUT YOUR SHITTY ESPORTS, Did you know TGM2026 is in around 5 months?! Wait wha- oh? Our eSport pros keep getting involved in drama? Another tournament was cancelled because more drama? Oh geeze, I hope this doesn't paint a bad image of us to new coming players who we desperately need to grow our game because we tried to make a competitive game out of a game that wasn't popular first!

solemn badger
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I use the cl-40 and only using that got to diamond with it

the weapon lacks any ttk on other M & H (this is fine btw)

( keep in mind the only weapon the cl-40 will have a better ttk is when fighting a pike when in a MVM match up)

But if u want to reward more direct shots increase the velocity of the shots and maybe make the cycle animation to be slightly faster i am fine with less splash damage but plz then make it more in line with what u have said for wanting direct hits with it

Dev Note: The CL-40’s effectiveness is not great compared to many other Medium weapons. We know facing the CL is frustrating for some players, so we want to be careful with how much we buff it, but these changes are needed to increase its viability. The aim is to incentivize more direct hits with the CL-40, rather than less accurate splash damage shots.

I would also love 2 see data reshaper cool down to be faster ( I do not use it but it takes 28s to come back feels it should be faster if u want more out of it )

aps buff to make the area it blocks lager or let it take more projectiles out as well

And plz watch this

https://youtu.be/5ktmUgHIxas?si=JK352oHhZXIQFs9x

wide vortex
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Remowe winch completely it is so f broken. Rework rpg so that it isnt played as an opener or finisher. increase the range of gateway you basicly broke it with that range nerf. Revert demat to what it was like in the first 5 seasons. Buff datareshaper so that you can make mines or nades with it and buff the range too

tawny oak
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revert any server/performance changes done in 10.6 absolutely horrendous performance drops randomly through the match, i dont understand how even being in the menu itself drops frames.

lapis saddle
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Why is the finals suddenly taking 100 percent capacity of my gpu ??

sudden trail
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  • Add shortcut ''J'' for EDIT button in the main menu
  • Shockwave shows up on damage feed even though it doesn't deal damage
regal ermine
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Please more regions! Not really in any specific place, but having to choose between EU where i get 180ms and AS where i get 140ms isn't fun. Best would be a middle east server, but an EU south or similar region would also greatly help!

livid spruce
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Remove low gravity

signal basin
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Light since the S10 start:

  • M11 nerf
  • Dash nerf
  • Vanishing bomb nerf
  • V9S nerf
  • H+ infuser nerf

All of this was not necessary but got a huge impact on the class. Meanwhile all the "buff" light are completly useless except maybe the 93R. M26 and SH buff are useless. XP buff is useless. Nullifier or grapple too.

This season 10 is a "Medium Fantasy". The balance team is M main and can't clearly balance the game correctly.

This night I saw a pre-made squad ranked screen in this chan :
12 players. Only 2 Lights for 6 Mediums... I REALLY WONDER WHY ?!

karmic fulcrum
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The customer service hasn't replied to me for many days. I've tried various contact methods, but I can't get a solution.moolah2

true void
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Add map vetoing/voting. nobody likes playing Kyoto 3x before being able to play a good map

opaque glade
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The Spear’s cap on player and non-player hits is a great direction towards buffing the spear. I believe that it’s fine the way it is except for two very tiny and minor yet important changes that are both quality of life changes and indirect damage buffs.

  • +8% movement speed to the current movement speed during the spin attack.
  • 0.075s faster spin attack during the final swing.

For the first point, the speed cap during the spin attack is necessary; however, it’s very difficult to push or pull away in fights as it keeps the spear player too stationary. As for the second point, the reason why I suggest a faster last hit in the spin attack is because there are many fights in which 0.15s or a 0.1s makes a difference. I’m suggest a 0.075s speed buff to give the player a better experience and a better chance at winning a fight or doing as much damage as possible. That’s also not pushing it to being too fast,

This is coming from a level 8 spear user, currently grinding for predasheen. Eqoxobox on The Finals šŸ™‚

broken bolt
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Emborg u have to rebuild ur ranked system. This sucks when u are in Gold on Solo Quene. Get some lower than u player and play againts Rubies Premades. After this update i cannot play normal. Still loosing i have a lot of Screen Shots of my lobby looks like @signal basin lobbies.

I just wasting fun and time EMBORG.

craggy basin
steady breach
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Thank goodness for removing that shotgun delay thing. Ks23 no longer has a weird windup thing for me. I genuinely think that whether it feels like that depends on your mouse and firmware. So got some player spamming the mouse at the start it would register as a long click rather than several different clicks

alpine wren
zealous pulsar
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idk if i'm noticing something that isn't there but i think i'm getting 10 extra fps since the last update, so good on whoever is doing optimization šŸ‘

inland marsh
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Add dragon modifier to WT

vague nebula
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Arc raiders is shit..... So many people out there duping and using cheats all day everyday and I get banned because I found a glitch in a wall

river wind
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sir this is the finals

olive hinge
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how can i be gold and with rubbies in 1 lobby ? šŸ˜„

safe ravine
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Bro, how do i only have 3 rewards from yesterday on the wheel. The next day the VERY FIRST SPIN, I get NOTHING.
Fk your wheels Embark

south ravine
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Please just stop allowing repeats on spin the wheel. Give a new item each spin. If you've played every day and got every ticket, you should be able to get every item in the event without spending coins.

woeful arch
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THE WHEEL: Landed twice on a wheel slot that I had already collected, so ended up with 1 item claim with all my friends getting 3 items claimed... Great...

ionic viper
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dragon and ned need to be gameshow events

minor star
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Serious feedback on Sword

I played Sword for about 1000h (hit rank 90 with it before) and a few things get lost in the heated "Sword is overpowered/unplayable" discussion.

First of all both sides need to be understood where they are coming from.

Yes in a casual lobby where people don't hit the important shots a Sword that is just running around and left clicking people to death seems absurd, overpowered and has little to do with skill expression.

The Problem is as soon as you cross the line of people investing enough time to hit even just a moderate amount of their shots left clicks become less and less viable and you have to learn combos and movement tricks to minimize the damage you take while maximizing the damage output. That's where the sword lunge comes in. Lunging is the part where skill expression shows with movement, spacial awareness and positioning. With reducing the damage AND introducing a rotation clamp the lunge becomes really clunky to use and less effective than the simpler M1 spamm.

So what can Embark do to fix the issue for both sides ? Put the focus of the weapon back on the lunge to reduce frustrating scenarios.

Second Problem, lunging through an entire team and dealing massive damage with very little counterplay should not be a thing. It is very frustrating to play against and extremely situational. It should be like other melee weapons. Left clicking less damage but can multihit and the "special attack" single target but is special in some way. Hammer has a single target high damage and destruction. Sword should have single target damage on the lunge but high mobility.

The rotational clamp itself got introduced to get rid of people 360° rotating through an entire team for a huge hurtbox and is without multihits therefore redundant. The server sided calculation of it has been bugged ever since it got introduced but has never been adressed. In the current season flicking the lunge will still yank back your entire camera and make accurate aiming impossible.

I intentionally didn't talk about hit registration because it haunts the game as a whole and has only gotten worse in the beginning of season 10 but of course it increases the frustration for alot of people. Hit detection, desyncs and server performance in general should be a heavy focus for you because it is very frustrating and from experience playing with alot of different people a big reason people ragequit or in general leave the game. Like all other bugs it should not be a reason to increase/decrease the weapons power and should rather be fixed.

Changes

M1 Damage 88 -> 74 (one more left click for each class)

Lunge Multihits -> removed
Lunge Damage 120 -> 140 (without multihits and less left click damage you need the combo breakpoint of 136 to have a fighting chance)
Lunge rotational clamp -> removed

Other Feedback

Ranked needs one less round. The current playerbase can't sustain proper matchmaking with 24 player lobbies. Cutting it in half with 12 player lobbies and 2 rounds for everyone so even the "losing teams" play for 3rd place would not only help with players being on similar skill levels but also relieve frustration for the casual playerbase from losing rs in 15 mins but gaining the same amount in 45 mins.

Small QOL Updates You have so many good features that would be little work for you but would impact the community positively and fill the content breaks. One example would be releasing the collected data about weapons etc. as an api just like for example "op.gg" or "lolalytics" from League of Legends. Collab with the talented people in your community that already built sites like the leaderboard/bans/rename tracker. Other ones would be changing the weapon stats to numbers instead of a vague bar so it's more readable, adding assists to the profile or having a simple match history that locally saves the stats of the last 10 games or so.

vague ore
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​Title: A Strategic Roadmap & 35 Innovative Proposals to Revive THE FINALS: Insights from the Middle East Community
​Dear Embark Studios Team,
I am writing to you as a dedicated player of THE FINALS since Day 1, and as a representative voice for a passionate community of fans in the Middle East. We believe this game is a masterpiece that has yet to reach its full global potential.
​The core issue we face is long matchmaking wait times. We believe growing the player base, especially in the untapped Middle East market, is the ultimate solution. Here is a collection of 35 ideas to revive the spirit of the game:
ā€‹ā³ Part 1: Turning Wait Times into Playtime
​The Studio Black Market: Move teams into an interactive lobby to place "Virtual Bets" on live matches, engage in 30-second "Micro-Duels," or use a "Target Wall."
​Passion Rewards: A scaling XP/currency multiplier that increases with queue time.
​The Virtual Heckler: Scotty or a new character mocking embarrassing stats in a humorous way during the wait.

main vale
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goblins? im so happy that we have goblins, we even have a new mode thats all about knights and big barbarians. this makes me so happy. now all i need is sex in the game. we need it as the next update. REACH IT.

daring ingot
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DAY 47 of asking for Head2Head to be added back

gloomy cape
balmy birch
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hug_friend can 8-bit skins get 8-bit sounds?hug_friend

elfin frigate
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Fix the server connection issues

dark niche
white anchor
# signal basin Light since the S10 start: - M11 nerf - Dash nerf - Vanishing bomb nerf - V9S...

I actually truly just quit the game mid game(quick cash) cause light class dash and vanish bomb saved me from the stupidly unequal match making against sweats and hyper players,I am just a casual gamer who wants to have fun and not preparing for e-sport!

Embark removed all creativeness and fun.

Players don't play cloak cause they prefer more movement and nerfing vanish bombs isn't gonna fix that!

Bow projectile is too slow.

Revert dash and leave it like it was before.

Revert all the nerfs to all light melee weapons!

tired fable
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dragon flag mode is not so bad, you ruined it with no balance for light bow

rotund smelt
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perhaps when half of the players don't load in don't put us on abandon cooldown maybe

pine raft
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fps nuked after the patch again, another embark W, what the fuck are u doing for real. fps down by 60 after ur full of nothing midseason patch

why do u not even address the inbalance in ranked play? each lobby turns into 3 teams fighting together because no one wants to face the rubies. all the while u get severely punished for losing.

on top of that theres so blatant cheaters but u do nothing. just beware if u shit on a pro team(chickenphobia) and u and ur mates are permabanned within 13 hours.

such a fucking joke system

midseason patch full of nothing and just making ranked worse XD u are such a fucking joke company

a game in which out of 8 teams only 1 can win, u make such a system that punishes the losing teams so fucking much. in a game where the literal meta is griefing and unfairness. u lose over 1k rs for 8th place and 800 for 1st. 3 round wins to get 800. who the fuck came up with that? and u made the RS losses even fucking worse with ur full of nothing midseason patch. smurfs, cheaters, rubies playing with golds. just its insane how u even manage to bake such a shitcake

u are so out of touch with reality

im gonna make sure i make as many people stay away from this game as possible, hope no one plays this enough to know how dogshit it is

arctic bay
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Replace Low Gravity with Double Jump

pearl sleet
#

Great sword skin for the sledge hammer pleaseee

tender glade
waxen thicket
stray wing
spiral hemlock
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typo on the new legendary watch is crazy

dusk sentinel
#

guys my gtx 1650 is legit unable to keep up any tips advice how i can get some performance

empty needle
#

NEW!

tidal flume
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VI. Optimized Objective Transition (The 15-Second Efficiency Rule)
• Mechanical Shift: Prohibit team respawns at a Cashout station with less than 15 seconds remaining on the timer.
• Solution: Automatically pivot deployment to the Next Active Vault.
VII. New Utility: The Rapid Gadget Refresher (RGR)
• Mechanical Shift: A new equippable gadget (available to all classes) that, when activated, instantly recharges the cooldown of the player's Loadout Gadgets (e.g., RPG, Dome Shield, Defibrillator, Grenades).
• Strategic Intent: This provides a critical tactical reset, rewarding strategic resource management in high-pressure situations.
VIII. Ranked Integrity: "Daily Shield" Protocol
• Mechanical Shift: The first Ranked match of the day grants a "Rank Point Shield," protecting the player from any point deductions if they are eliminated early.
• Strategic Intent: To encourage daily participation and reduce the "entry-anxiety" of the first match, allowing players to warm up without the fear of immediate rank demotion.
IX. Performance Momentum: Ranked Carry-Over Protection
• Mechanical Shift:
• Finalist Bonus: Reaching the Final Round reduces potential point loss in the next match by 50%.
• Champion's Immunity: Winning 1st Place grants complete point-loss immunity in the next match, regardless of the outcome.
• Strategic Intent: To reward consistency. High-performing teams should feel the "momentum" of their victory, providing a safety net that acknowledges their previous success even if the following match is unfavorable.

swift totem
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I love the change of disabling trigger-hold delay on shotguns, but can we please apply this to the CL-40 as well? It constantly misfires because of this feature, and it's way more punishing than the shotguns because it often makes me damage myself

keen owl
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I play on console and the performance has been terrible lately. Whenever I get into a fight, the game freezes completely and only starts working again once I’ve already been killed. It happens most often in competitive modes like Ranked and Cash Out, which makes those modes almost unplayable.

When the game actually works, it’s genuinely really fun, which makes the performance issues even more frustrating. Right now though, it feels impossible to enjoy a game that’s supposed to be competitive when freezes and lag decide fights before skill does.

At the moment, the experience feels badly optimised for console players. It honestly seems like the only people able to enjoy the game consistently are players with extremely high-end PCs and perfect internet. I really hope performance and stability become a bigger priority because the core gameplay has a lot of potential.

shut elk
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Why cant the spear flag from the new game mode be a reward for the scales of fortune event? I was very excited to see it in the mode but very disappointed that it wasnt even obtainable

wide vortex
smoky gust
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could we get to tie our weapon skins to our outfit pre-sets?

like, if i use my knight heavy for dragons claim, but i swap to paladin mid match, i wont have my mace riot shield
same goes for normal matches
i have my spear loadout, sometimes i want to be my iseult and sometimes i wanna be a knight
but i cant swap between them, without changing every single weapon/gadget skin every time

having the option to tie them to the outfits would be nice

merry anvil
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Suggestion for medium.

Adding a gadget or spec that is a deployable item that boosts movement speed and/or increases bullet dmg by a set percentage would be interesting.

It could be stationary or could be tethered to the player and effect everyone in an aoe.

Additionally, I also think a smaller throwable horizontal shield that functions like a dome shield for medium would be pretty cool. Of course it would have less hp and only covers one side instead of 360 degrees.

odd prism
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We should give medium another gadget slot and basically kill defib so people switch from it,

Also buff turret crazy style because balancing turret around powershift and having so many easy counters to it isn’t good.

crude star
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Can we get a reward for 100% achievements? Would be cool to have something to show for it in game

craggy basin
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Please make it so when you are going fast enough glass is destroyed it will improve movement significantly for example in this clip I would have made it into that bridge thing but because the glass didnt break than I fell to my death, and please add a claymore skin for sledgehammer

hearty bough
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Embark team PLEASE listen and take to heart these takes from the players who take the time to spell out necessary changes to keep the game healthy (address smurfing, poor matchmaking, new player onboarding, servers, etc)

Really good video by Lefty1A

https://youtu.be/RzcoxAeFqok?si=utvbUcgWftYjoRV1

spark shard
#

Game in the deepest decadence:

  • No matchmaking, the most unfair system the video game industry has created is the most appalling thing I have ever seen (gold and platinum solo queue vs diamonds reaching ruby, ruby or esports players in stack/team... such a system aberration is impressive)
  • Soft cheats.
  • Smurfs.
  • No bans (a real bans).
  • No room for solo queue.
  • Server performance on the same level as watching a Commodore 64 run Microsoft Flight Simulator.
  • Kyoto map still here.

Keep focusing on preparing a great and successful TGM26 (and of course, the store!), this is the most important thing for keeping the game alive 🤔

trail flame
#

This game has a serious cheating and smurf/alt account problem. I see it every single day I play. Bran new accounts dominating everyone on both teams. Level 12s with 37 kills and 6 deaths against my level 120+ teammates who only had 5 kills. UPDATE YOUR ANTICHEAT AND BAN SMURF/ ALTERNATE ACCOUNTS. It's not possible that ONLY new players can get these kind of numbers in the games I'm playing. I had 3 people over level 100 on my team vs a level 13, 16, 27, 9 and 3, and nobody on my team had over 6 kills while all the low level new accounts on the other team had 10+ kills some over 20. Never using tracking but always popping up right behind all my teammates one after another like we're not even playing. The overall cheating and exploiting issues need to be fixed before Grand Majors. You can't expect to grow an audience/player base when ACTUAL new players have to compete against these low level cheating and exploiting accounts. The only people who have a chance are the seasoned players, and even then, the level 100+ teammates I've had can't even compete against these accounts.

slow crescent
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The game has been having server issues since 10.6. I can feel it in almost every match on Asia servers.

I was seriously thinking about buying the current premium battle pass, but after this, I’m definitely not going to.

scarlet tide
#

please Embark, fix the Shrek ears

cobalt pendant
obtuse nymph
ebon vault
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Just spun the wheel and it didn't give me anything but still consumed my ticket,so now it says 5 rewards collected instead of 6. I completed both today and yesterday's ticket challenges

nocturne tendon
#

Nerf Winch where is has no stun animation if it's used 2 meters or less

sweet moat
#

Could it be, that the "golden ticket" is bugged? I just got one and it can't be used, nor does the game register it as item in my ticket count, when it clearly shows "Use golden Ticked 1".

I don't know how to add a screenshot, since it doesn't show up here anywhere. Is anyone else encountering this issue?

dusty igloo
#

The spawns are worse then they ever have been

manic isle
#

make the horse mask more wobbly for no reason

cursive urchin
#

According to the study (N=3,229), the mechanical disparity is no longer just a "feeling":

  • The Disparity: The average controller player (36.54% accuracy) out-performs 99.4% of the MnK population.
  • The Ceiling: Even the literal top 1% of MnK aimers (35.78%) cannot match the consistency of a mid-tier controller user.
  • The Reaction: Human reaction time physically cannot compete with the 0ms delay of Rotational Aim Assist (Target Tracking).

R5Reloaded Season 5 Analysis
https://www.reddit.com/r/apexuniversity/comments/1r7vl7z/comment/o60dgdh/

  • Apex RAA Value: 0.3
  • THE FINALS RAA Value: 0.35

Conclusion: THE FINALS needs to reduce its RAA value.

Source: https://www.reachthefinals.com/patchnotes/141

lucid prism
gaunt grove
west skiff
#

Please bring back h2h and revert goo

gloomy anchor
#

Why is the game so punishing on RS for when a player leaves the game?

Had someone leave the game in first minute making us lose and that has penalised me 1000RS wiping out my gains for the night

I wanted to stop playing now but now iv got to spend at least an hour making this back because your stupid system penalises players for others leaving the game

rich gust
#

I would love an option to duplicate an entire contestant, so I don't have to create the gesture wheels from scratch every time

next harness
#

Didn't get the golden ticket when landed on item that I already got

sweet sequoia
orchid fossil
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Just met 2L and one M, with 90K RS, but the two have 4.700 and one have 34.258. Hardcheating, but how? Feel like this is a exploint?

smoky relic
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Im honestly just growing to hate this game, ranked feels impossible to win in, I've done nothing but lose these past few days,the spawns are horrible, embark never changes what over powered, nor do they listen to their community, nothing is being done to address the rampant smurfing, cheating, and the problems with the ranked system, its a miserable experience, I'm closer to uninstalling than I ever have before, this game just sucks to play now, I genuinely hope embark does something before it's too late, because I love this game and I hate to see it decline like this

next flax
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I'm glad after all this time the 93r still feels awful to use. Not in terms of viability but in how the gun functions. Why can you press the input mid burst and it will save the input? Even timing the inputs sucks because if U miss time 2 input the flow is screwed

honest wing
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to all you gremlins begging for smurf bans, read the tos, it aint happening, and i don't think they'll change it anytime soon as much as we'd like it to be

dark niche
hearty dagger
brisk garden
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you shouldnt be allowed to play ranked with comms disabled. solo queue would be a little less hard if i could tell my blind ahh teammates not to walk into mines while I'm stealing

left widget
pliant lichen
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.PDF dev team

sterile canopy
gritty jetty
#

when is "soontm " embark? when will you do things?

steep basin
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I feel like designing this game around comp was the worst thing they could do. There are so many things that they can't do because it might risk getting flack from the comp guys

The finals and its customization always felt like a fun casual thing. Since they've been balancing everything around comp everything is very streamlined and lame (except for the shockwave reverted change that was a banger)

hollow sage
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Hey, Embark! Please allow us to us VRs to purchase additional contestant and outfit slots.

Or for something else. Anything.

dense ocean
#

day 70 asking for a free moolah peluche

scenic spade
#

It would be pretty cool if we could get an "Unranked Cashout" (or whatever other title), mode that has the exact same rules down to a T as the current Ranked Cashout mode has, except your Ranked Score doesn't change. You'd play with people of similar Ranked Scores. A great place to warm up for a Ranked Cashout game, and get some Casual Score points to grind towards that Emerald rank.

stray nymph
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Ughh this game is so shit now :/

quartz cedar
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Change CLOAKING DEVICE to the point where it is **NOT affected by what skins you wear. **
Make the player switch to a standard base model with 0 skins, during invisibility.
There are many skins I wish to buy in the game, but I will not use them, since they make you much more visible while in invisibility..

Come on guys, it's season 10, We've been waiting for this for ages, you need to step it up.

Also, when will you have our skins apply to the scopes aswell? More than half the weapon skins in your game are ruined by a standard black scope.

grand crow
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Please make the event give like 2-4 wt points depending on victory, I really want to play the mode but I can't spend the next three weeks playing without any kind of progress

The grind is already pretty awful, and atp I'm just gonna keep playing cashout like before

vestal lance
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Matchmaking is awful its just gambling if youll have a good match making solo q in non rank unplayable (no skill based match making), smurfing is everywhere, the spawn points keep getting worse every update and constant server problems. Dont get me wrong I LOVE THIS GAME but its like a abusive relationship.

wide vortex
main karma
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hey embark, maybe instead of only focusing on Arc Raiders, maybe actually give a fuck about the player base on this game. the smurfing problem is out of control and you guys couldn’t care any less. we don’t give a shit about dragons or your cosmetics right now. we care about the matchmaking system and actual buffs/nerfs the game needs.

still berry
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Could interactions with ladders, and more specifically being forced to climb them by proximity alone be revisited for possible improvements?

So often I find myself engaging and disengaging from fights, frantically running in and out of windows, near ladders, only to be forced into a climb with zero intent of doing so.

This stands in contrast to how other traversal options work:
• Ziplines require a manual interact
• Gateways require a manual interact
• Sprinting requires a manual input (unless Auto-Sprint, an opt-in toggle, is enabled)
• Vaulting over objects requires manual input

Given the precedent set by the existence of the Auto-Sprint toggle, the possible introduction of an Auto-Climb toggle would be a significant QOL win. (IMHO ofc).

And much like vaulting, you could rely on the jump keybind to initiate the action.

To avoid introducing a breaking change, it could even be enabled by default.

craggy basin
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Let us refund cosmetics (multi bucks ones)

fervent shuttle
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m1911a1 or any model would be fire, please embark add it

sand kayak
#

Just a clean, plain and simple skeleton skin please!

undone dagger
#

I miss when double jeopardy wasn't in the game, and no I don't miss the griefing, but I miss when you could win the game by just using your brain to qualify. Now you just have to pray you get the cashout with 3 other teams on you which is like almost impossible.

uncut hedge
#

SEASON 10, EMBARK — spawn camping is still a problem? The Final Round feels pointless when the enemy team can predict those painfully obvious respawn locations every single time.

silent grove
#

buff sledgehammer

patent trench
#

buff sledgehammer

arctic bay
#

buff sledgehammer

solemn sedge
#

revert goo nerf + buff sledgehammer

vital basin
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Dragon mode was pretty disappointing imo, make the dragon more interactive!!! +buff sledgehammer

sullen crescent
#

Dear embark,

The ranked system is broken,,

Reaching platinum in rank and then grinding to diamond is very hard ,, not to imagine the suffer from diamond to ruby

most of my games as a plat is against Ruby's ,, which at the end they help the weakest team to qualify and they defend them.

Also I want to address the smurfing issue ,, you need to be able to locate people who smurfs and ban them

In addition, why as a plat player I only get 500- 700 max if I reached top 1 place and 200-300 if I reach top 2 (so basicallyi need to quilfy twice) and against diamonds and rubys ,, but if I lose i lose 800-1000 points??

Lastly ,, why only first 500 on the world can be Ruby's?,, these guys are the same people being ruby every season ,, why not make it top 1000? And why you need to stay ruby the whole season to get a ruby skin ,, it's supposed to be given for just reaching ruby ,, cuz it's like nearly impossible if you don't use a hack or you work ( unlike streamers who doesn't touch grass)

pearl sleet
tame vector
#

Please remove the light indicator of mines being visible from the other side of a barricade, when placed on it.

cold bolt
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game is boring unnerf all the melees and add back all techs to everything ever except the ones that straight up break the game like chainsaw melee

serene void
#

Game fun af. Could i get battle pass for free gng please

sudden forum
#

Playing against invis lights in Starlight Hollow is near impossible because of the fog, while I like the aesthetic, please lower the volumes of it

mental solstice
#

The amount of low level accounts that are ungodly good is getting insane. Cuz yeah i go agaisnt a level 16 with 2500 kills and drops 39 kills in one game.

lucid prism
#

embark pls make it so when someone pings your revive statue it gives you a really obvious highlight on the death screen

regal widget
#

would be nice if we had the option to adjust the volume of the in game crowd chanting

lavish dock
#

Events with tickets and the wheel are pretty frustrating. I would love to get all of the limited cosmetics without paying, but during these events, it seems down to luck. Even if you play enough to collect the 3 daily tickets, you still might get unlucky and land on something you already got.
I would suggest going back to the format of the older events like super cashball/and previous holidays or just make it similar to the stage contracts.

bright flicker
#

nobody genuinely playtests this shit no wonder the game is dead. currently being carried by jobless incels

ruby talon
versed cloud
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Anti-cheat sucks, game sucks.

waxen thicket
# main karma hey embark, maybe instead of only focusing on Arc Raiders, maybe actually give a...

lol why would they? Finals is just a minor project compared to Arc Raiders, and even at it's worst Finals only has 1/4th the player count of Arc Raiders at any given moment. Smurfs? Check the current player count on Steamcharts, shove the argument "but there are more console players outside Steam" somewhere else, and you'll see why Finals doesn't get the attention you think it deserves to get.

Tl,dr: It's just numbers.

Edit: @astral viper buddy if triple light M11 is winning against your entire team, please consider uninstalling the game and play something easier, like Hay Day or Candy Crush. If I were in your place, I'd rather never touch a multiplayer game again for the rest of my life than admit to that much of a huge ineptitude, like what the hell man? No reasonable person reading this is gonna say "yeah I agree, light needs to be nerfed", instead simply think "yeah this guy's cooked" and think quite low of you for even suggesting that it's the game balance that's the issue and not your skill.

astral viper
#

I dont know why you bother with medium and heavy when Lights exist. I love matches where I watch my team get mulched by 3 M11's. Or a single sword left clicking their way to glory.

Lights have a place in the sandbox, I don't hate them. But they really need reigned in.

pure vine
#

pls make Darkstar coreplate and other upper body cosmetics compatible with back and crossbody items

zenith tundra
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Can you stop putting a new skin on the Steal The Spotlight Gloves? Re-skin something else for once lol

zealous schooner
#

it’s been so long that this game’s been out, and we still don’t have input based matchmaking. controller vs keyboard is still unfair as fuck

old matrix
#

Can't overtune it, but if you want to make Data Reshaper viable, how about give a bit more control over what you can reshape things into so players can utilize it more strategically. Can't make it OP where you can always get whatever arena utility that you need in any situation, but more intuitive and more likely to be able to say in a situation, "I need a red barrel and can make one here" or "gas" etc. Not sure if it's worth the trouble to fix that gadget, but I think players would at least find it interesting to experiment with if it acted more like a situational swiss army knife.

sonic arrow
#

Truly unfortunate that the new mythic p90 skin is the only mythic that doesnt have any new sounds whatsoever

tell me you want money without telling me you want money embark

runic grotto
#

does embark employees actually read this chat

plucky estuary
#

fix goo gun

dark niche
bitter scaffold
#

if a glitch grenade disables a shield it shouldn't also glitch everyone inside the shield, the shield should eat the glitch and be disabled, theres TWO glitch grenades on light make it so they need both, allow frag grenades through shields though

also another suggestion is that switching items needs to be significantly faster, the game feels super sluggish you can't throw out goo or shields or use any util on reaction cause it takes multiple seconds to switch items and throw one

normal fable
#

Vanishing bombs will now vanish from the meta

spare topaz
#

Deagles are still dogshit with hipfire

scenic spade
daring ingot
#

DAY 48 of asking for Head2Head to be added back

fast garnet
#

Dragon's Claim SUCKS! BRING BACK HEAVY HITTERS!

vestal yew
#

I'm sure you've heard it more than once. But dude, second gold ticket and didn't get nothing. An event where the main prize is based on getting the rest of rewards. Like what the hell am i supposed to do here? Can we please get this fixed? Preferably before the event ends?

calm wing
shrewd dirge
#

you know the ranked in this game is dog shit when every teammate you get has the same complaints about it after 10 seasons yet nothing changes

odd linden
#

it would be cool to see a trailer where it’s just some random person at work or whatever and some situation changes them into their in-game outfit and a fight breaks out

versed raft
#

Fix online status lol I can't count how many times I've had friends log off for the night then stay in my lobby til I leave myself and then my friends list shows them online in my party for hours afterward.

dapper crescent
#

Literally on every single match when somebody left, they don't replace it to another player. Every single time. And also my golden ticket is waste 1 because i hit the same spot, but the game did not return my ticket like wtf. Anybody facing the same issue?

true void
#

Embark how the hell did you manage to make Ranked even worse with this last update šŸ˜‚

Ranked RS needs a rework to eliminate/reduce griefing (pretty much every high plat and above match will be griefed)

Make RS gained correspond to the amount of money your team earns throughout the match rather than predetermined RS based on seeding. Obviously there would have to be a cash threshold teams need to pass, which would determine how much they gain/lose. For the final round, a bonus RS calculation should be made for the 2 teams based on their seeding when they entered the tournament. For example, if the 6th seed makes it to the final round vs the 1st seed, they would earn a significant bonus if they win. Conversely if the 1st seed wins, they will still get a bonus, just not as significant.

Also players should not lose ANY RS if they place at their seeding. Being 6th seed and placing 6th only to lose hundreds of RS makes no sense.

cursive urchin
# sterile canopy Where are you getting the 0.35 from, and do you know that the same algorithm is ...

The 0.35 value comes directly from Embark's own patch notes, v1.4.1

The point is that both games use rotational-style tracking assistance with configurable strength values, and THE FINALS publicly launched with values higher than Apex Legends.

What actually strengthens the comparison is that Apex doesn't even have ADS snap targeting/zoom snapping. Apex mainly uses rotational AA and slowdown/friction, yet controller is still one of the biggest advantages in the game.

The R5Reloaded dataset is relevant because it demonstrates the broader mechanical reality:
controller tracking assistance compresses the skill gap by providing instant directional tracking corrections that human reaction time on MnK physically cannot replicate consistently.

Apex's weaker implementation already creates measurable controller advantages, THE FINALS having stronger assistance systems is obviously going to raise balance concerns.

wide vortex
jaunty fern
#

Rainbow 6 siege style attachment skins would be cool in order to change the color of the sights to more closely match my gun skin.

full jetty
#

is anyone going to address the matchmaking? the fucked up rank update?

timid musk
#

Every single update, the patch notes say something like ā€œWe’ve fixed matchmaking!ā€ but it never actually gets fixed.

Before, it was a chaotic mess where Ruby and Diamond players were being thrown into the same rooms. But now, even in matches where the results screen clearly shows that there are players from the same tier, I still get hit with a massive RS penalty unless I win through two rounds.

When are you going to fix this completely broken ranked matchmaking system?

shadow mirage
wise cedar
#

i think we just need an aim assist nerf

sterile canopy
visual sandal
gritty jetty
#

nerf whatever killed me last

thorny viper
#

I kind of like the crossbow having only 5 rounds instead of 15 rounds

lean sundial
#

https://youtu.be/RzcoxAeFqok

It's almost funny that for 3 weeks now your own partners keep getting you cooked publicly, but when a player like me that cares about the success of the game was saying the same things was and still is getting their voice censored by temp banning and deleting posts (discord/reddit/steam/in-game...CCP censoring at every level).

All because the people there responsible for this failure by making mentally challenged decisions cannot handle any kind of feedback.
250K -> 10K players (and probably even less considering smurf/multi-accounts/cheating accounts/farming lv accounts to sell/etc.)
I am pretty sure this size of failure for a MP online game has never been achieved, congrats you get 1st place at sucking the best!!! šŸŽ‰

Arc Raiders will not save you forever. It has the same problems as most live service games right now (example cheaters because of your useless anti-cheat) and is normal for the player base to decline steadily with time.
As soon as NEXON gets to notice, you will be running like headless chickens (might as well let them know of your incompetence already just to save the game before it's too late)

I don't know why you find it so difficult to just listen to what the playerbase needs but if you want i can tell you exactly what you need to do, for FREE! Just DM!

Meanwhile I suggest for whoever are responsible for these decisions/systems to take their leave now, because your days are counted:

  • Matchmaking algorithm
  • Anti-cheat
  • Balancing
  • Catering to the pro scene/streamers
  • UI/UX structure and features
  • Censoring/Community managers
  • DEI censoring cosmetics

BUT HEY BRAH, 10 SEASONS IN...THE ETERNAL QUESTION..WHAT IS A MEDIUM?!? šŸ˜‚

SERIOUSLY, FOR THE LOVE OF NAMA TAMA, PLEASE UNINSTALL YOURSELF FROM THE FINALS NOW!

This message is monitored by ENGIMO CCPxNAAZIxMOSSAD censoring systems and will be deleted immediately
Credit score might not be impacted because HAIL NAMA TAMA praise has been found

frigid hawk
#

Game is so much longer to load when starting on Xbox since last update, it was not like that. It’s kinda ok because we have quick resume but other than that it did at least x15 loading time.

next harness
#

This is second time that I didnt get my golden ticket when landed on item that I already got, so I will save all future tickets for last day in hope they will fix it till then šŸ˜„

craggy basin
exotic elk
#

I love this LTM a lot, ty embark

versed raft
#

I dunno if this belongs in general or feedback but the amount of randoms I end up queuing with that make their first comms, voice or text, be them exploding about how uncoordinated the team is and/or how "bad" the random is... it's way too many. I am in voice and text 99%* of time. That shit is usually silent until someone wants to flame.
So you lost the first engagement and no one on the team is talking. Fix the comms first(without being an asshole about it) before you let the baby rage take over. If you've tried to open up comms and your team is getting stomped for the 3rd or 4th time? Sure, get frustrated. Understandable. But giving up after one chaotic fight with people you don't know is stupid. Teamwork has be put together first. Don't just assume everyone is reading each other's minds.

*The other 1% being when I'm just too exhausted to listen to another tantrum.

lunar vault
#

Gimme thermal back, go rework spotting instead pocket esp is so cringe

raw flicker
# lean sundial https://youtu.be/RzcoxAeFqok It's almost funny that for 3 weeks now your own pa...

ā€œWaaa waaa everything in this game is broken!ā€ Players like you always say ā€œbalance is broken. matchmaking broken. game deadā€ and yet you can’t ever expand upon that. A player base never maintains the initial release count especially a F2P game. Second quit throwing around ā€œthis or that system isn’t balancedā€ like a winey baby. There will always be balancing differences in multiplayer shooters. I’m so tired of hearing these doomer takes. Just stfu

teal fox
#

Why does meled need a rework? Like what's the problem with it if something like DB isn't considered broken, it to is very annoying at close range

ashen dome
#

@pearl kiln

manic mulch
#

Why are a large number of people banned? I saw a post about an anti cheating bug

twilit sand
#

nerf 93r. This weapon CANNOT two burst a light. It is too good this way. Why didn't you learn the first time?

upper furnace
#

Amount of smurf account its just ruining this game. I play from season 1 but ranked or competitive regime never so bad, you play against 50 win 3500 eliminations "new players " and to pass gold its just impossible I twice was 29k+ and after it falling down because smrf, cheaters and griff team. I don't wait you going respond or fix something because I fell how you trow both of your really good games🄲

dense marlin
#

Shout out to u/Visuomotor:

https://www.reddit.com/r/ArcRaiders/s/VeEUogY2Jv

tldr:

-Response curve types with a strength slider

-Aim acceleration applied to the base camera rotation, not just the boost at the end

-Remove the 10% deadzone limit

-Add an outer deadzone slider

mild gull
# twilit sand nerf 93r. This weapon CANNOT two burst a light. It is too good this way. Why did...

How to correctly balance the 93R

The recent 93R changes made it an overpowered light deleter while having basically no effect on the classes it struggles against, which are medium and heavy. Hence, Embark needs to look at other ways to balance it rather than altering the damage.
This can be done by making the burst delay shorter, which will make it more viable against ALL classes while not making it overpowered versus lights.

Proposed 93R changes:
RPM - 1000 (current cycle rate)
Damage: 24** (revert from 25 back to 24)**
Burst delay: 0,284s > 0,235s (RPM 210 -> 260)

This change will result in the following TTKs (Time-to-kill):

Body:
light: 0,52s -> ~ ** 0,71s** (7 shots) (does NOT 2 burst lights with body shots only)
medium: 1.21s -> ~ 1,12s (11 shots)
heavy: 1.68s -> ~ 1,54s (15 shots)

Head:
light: 0.40s -> ~ 0,415s (5 shots)
medium: 0.81s -> ~ 0,71s (7 shots)
heavy: 1.21s -> ~ 1,065s (10 shots)

Damage drop-off minimum range: 30m ->** 27m**
Damage drop-off maximum range: 37.5m ->** 34.5m**
Damage Dropoff Modifier @ Max Range: 50%** (it stays the same)**

Keep the mag size at** 21** to preserve the 93R's punishing nature.

These changes will make the weapon solid while not making it overpowered; for comparison, the ARN, a weapon with effectively a 60 round magazine, more range, and fully automatic has TTKs that are on average 10% faster than the 93R (except light). This makes it effectively a completely superior option while being easier to use and way more forgiving. Missing a burst on the 93R means you are extremely penalised in your killing potential. This isn't the case for the ARN.

I feel the need to mention that the 93R had these TTKs in this proposal until patch 2.9.0, yet it wasn't used because of its high recoil and lower range than the XP-54 at the time. So it wouldn't be an unprecedented change. We now have better range and lower recoil, so now is the time to truly balance this weapon once and for all.

south ravine
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Stop allowing repeats in the spin the wheel event, you should be able to earn all the rewards without spending money if you play everyday just like every other event.

rustic tinsel
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Even if it's not 40Āŗ, if any aim lock exists, sword will have the most idiotic handling. Since the rotation clamp is clearly the biggest thing that makes the weapon unusable, it shouldn't exist at all. You should just revert sword back to how it was in S1,S2 , when there was no multi-hit. Sword back then was a bit weak, but that’s okay. A weaker weapon is better than a dumb patch that destroys its identity.
​Because you thought sword was weak when there was no multi-hit,you patched multi-hit in.But because your obsession with keeping that led to the dumbest decision, even removing mechanics all other weapons have.
​Every weapon, when in close range, can naturally move behind the enemy or slide behind and look back to hit. And dagger is a weapon specifically designed for that. So are you going to add aim lock to all weapons? Why, sword can’t look back like all do?Every weapon can naturally look back. But sword alone is restricted from doing that? Why do you discriminate only against the sword by calling it an ā€œexploitā€ when all melees and weapons can do it?
​Wildly spinning the aim actually wasn’t used, It was used only in very rare cases dumb enemies were stupidly stacked in one spot.
​If you want to solve the problem, then just remove multi-hit.
​Even if spins wildly, they’d only hit one target. That solves the problem. The problem was solved without unfairly messing with the controls. Of course, dmg must also be reverted.Just revert it to S1.
​It's no coincidence that almost every dedicated Sword YouTuber has quit. They left because of this unjust,clunky,and fundamentally flawed handling. Why you have to ruin sword’s identity that’s been there since its release just to appease the nerf whiners? Who’s the narrow-minded person who decided on a patch like this that ruins sword’s identity by thinking ā€œmelee should just be dumb M1 spam?
​Why do you ignore feedback from actual users of the weapon, Why are melees being treated unfairly? Just revert sword and melees nerf.

inner coral
cold bolt
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change back vault disappearing after OT

If both 1st and 2nd won 2 cashouts each, the only way 3rd and 4th should have a chance of getting in is if they double before OT

enough of these handouts

also if no one plugs 5 or 6 before OT just end the match automatically

muted owl
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to this day and i play light aswell, but nerf the m11 to 15 damage the gun is to op with 16 damage and yes you need to get close, but the damage output is to high and thats why like 40% of the light players play this stupidly broken gun. The p90 is semi the same type of gun as the m11 but that gun deals 15 damage per shot so ye just change it already.

still axle
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I'm the only one who get nothing if you pass the animation of the wheel ? I should have a golden ticket but I get nothing. No rewards, no part of the golden ticket. Why ?

snow flint
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8/10 games I'm getting the yellow lag icon but I have cabled 750mbs internet.

cyan cairn
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Please fix the random bug where it takes off all your skins on every gun when you log in. It’s so fucking annoying

thick stump
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my cashout experice for today
1st queue won final round
2nd queue lost to ruby players
3rd queue lost to ruby players
4th queue lost to cheaters
alt F4

dark niche
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please make dagger animations queue like the tks

ruby talon
wintry patrol
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You need to land on that segment again to get the ticket. Landing on the duplicate just turns it into a golden ticket but you need to then land on it again to actually get it

feral vapor
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add lefthand view pov and keybind fort walking please !

steep anchor
#

add matchmaking to quickplay

signal badge
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I'm a player who's playing the game from season one I have invested more than 2,200 hours in the game I stopped playing the game for some personal issue After Season 6. I came back at the start of season 10 now I see in quick cash, the team gets the first cash wins if no one else gets any cash or there is only 3 cash going on in the game. So what people are doing if they get the first cash is they are just winning the game for others. They are just grabbing the cash out and running the whole map.

turbid osprey
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when will get more than 5 player party size?

cloud parrot
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You have to land on that space again.

daring ingot
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DAY 49 of asking for Head2Head to be added back

rough monolith
tardy thistle
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Hey Embark, we beat our seeding, why did we go negative?

topaz harbor
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new meta is utter garbage... ever since shockwave was introduced melee has become even more trash to play... point break is still an utter joke to play: high respawn times, spawn points as far away from objective as possible and you can't even choose where to spawn... light is just as broken and op as ever, you can't even counter snipers or bows...

empty needle
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FK THIS GAME, WHY AM I GETTING QUEUED AGAINST DIA PLAYERS THIS WHOLE DAY AS A LIGHT IN WT
INSANE HOW DUMB THIS MATCHMAKING IS

sterile canopy
worn hamlet
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revert goo change

old matrix
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Smurfing Problem and margin-of-victory ELOs:
If you used a true margin-of-victory ELO calculation, smurfing as a problem would go away. Separately, I assume you use a corrupted ELO (current RS system) to preserve the incentive for players to grind through a season. Two solutions: (1) Use a true ELO calculation combined with gradual ELO inflation through a season - i.e., the nice version of ELO decay. Honestly, I think there is a justification for the inflation, as presumably the entire player base gains in skill over time. (2) Shift emphasis to players' leaderboard positions so people grind to improve those instead of just their ELO. Players can see each other’s leaderboard position in each match instead of or along with their ELO. You could even combine (1) and (2). Note, this is actually a response to the smurfing problem, which is the only reason to go to such lengths. EDIT: "margin-of-victory" is used loosely here, should basically be taken to mean how far above their current ELO a player performs in a given match.

Cheater Problem:
If you lower the barriers to reporting, I suspect you’d get fewer cheaters. Seems to me the obvious feature would be to have a button during the replay feature that automatically reports the clip and gameplay (hopefully just in the form of metadata). There’d have to be some more assurance that the replay feature doesn’t dramatically reduce in-game performance, of course, which no one I know is convinced of. Otherwise, a lot of the players best qualified to spot and report cheaters will still have the replay feature off anyway. Anyway, if workable, this idea seems like it would create a new problem of generating an explosion of reports, but I suspect this would be far offset by having more data on the players getting repeatedly reported, and not just quantity of reports but gameplay clips to back it up.

Just trying to help with the biggest complaints I hear.

slender laurel
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For all lobby chat at the end of games

trail flame
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Once again I'm here to say that it's not a coincidence that all these new low level accounts are more challenging than all the 100+ players I play with/against. There's a SERIOUS problem with either cheaters on new accounts, people on alt/smurf accounts, or both and they all need to be banned immediately. Every single time there are these low level accounts in my games, it's like my entire team isn't even playing and the level 19 on the other team is 100% walking through everyone with 30 kills and the level 6 with 19 kills. While the level 100+ players on my team have no more than 6 kills. It's not just me being "not good" against a new player because it's everyone on my team no matter the level. Levels 100+ on their team can't perform like that either. It's not a coincidence. It's cheaters and people exploiting the matchmaking with alt/smurf accounts. This needs to be dealt with. I see these "expert" new low level accounts every day I play, all level 1-20 every single time.

white pine
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I feel like you could fix the griefing problem by making it so Elo rewards in final round is not determined until both teams are there.

If there is a huge Elo difference, then the team in final round should gain like nothing in that final round for beating them, on the flip side if it's narrower the gains should be more.

If you're playing to climb the leaderboard, this would incentivise you to not try to hold the second best team back in round two

gritty jetty
drifting egret
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My k:d has tanked hardcore this season as a heavy. Wondering if other people have exp. same.

versed cloud
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Just a reminder that the anti-cheat is dogshit and needs an overhaul for both The Finals and Arc Raiders. AND EVERYONE KNOWS IT. IT'S NO SECRET. I don't need your take. gfy

tired meadow
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Why is it that a sniper with dash can pretty easily out dual a melee player at close range?

cursive urchin
# sterile canopy But, you don’t know that they’re the same algorithm? It doesn’t make sense to co...

If you played THE FINALS when rotational AA was 50%, you'd know it was obviously much stronger than Apex at the time. The values are clearly not just arbitrary numbers with no practical meaning, the real disagreement is simply where the acceptable balance point is.

When players can pick up controller and on 50 hours experience have more effective tracking than their 500+ on MnK there is a problem.

autumn jay
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Today I find out if point break takes too long it kicks everyone out? Yamete. Start sudden death or something. That left such a sour taste in my mouth they had 3 tokens left we were fighting nail to teeth

primal grail
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not enough punishment for throwers, dude said he does this all the time
end of the round screencap lol

grizzled osprey
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Please, give me an option to mute someone in game dialogue. I've been asking since the revive request has been introduce, people are spaming it and blocking them doesn't mute their in game dialogue. PLEASE i am BEGGING for an option to make it stop, i might go crazy at some point.

storm viper
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Support team create a ticket is a joke imagine playing from season 1 paying money every season and you can’t even reply days into a ticket. Glad I spent money I can’t use.

dusky rose
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Remove the camera following the enemy after they kill you in ranked, to make it more competitive. If I kill someone they should not get an advantage on me because I killed them

woeful arch
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5 minutes now in Quick Cash after our random teammate left, and we are only 2. For the whole end of game with the other teams having 3 people. What kind of matchmaking is this, seriously?

paper sierra
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ranked needs a higher level of entry like a higher account level at least. i cant stand how many games i go against smurfs or people who have an alt account on my team so they could care less about their rank and throw the game.

drowsy thicket
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Dear Embark, pls stop ruining outfits by making stuff incompatible....
I for some reason can't post a picture to what I mean, but one of my favorite outfits got trashed by recent changes...

late mulch
proud skiff
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more gameshow events

Blackout: the arena is very dimmed, everyone gets flashlights to toggle. a temp thermal vision can be picked up by Every team if you collect it from a crate or thug it out

Floor is lava: you receive weak Pyronade damage when you walk on risen lava

these are manageable.

Delete Low Gravity it throws everything Off, its annoying, vaulting and movement is nerfed, dying to it is very annoying

copper blaze
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Remove the nullifier from the game.

rotund gust
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why does the finals and arc both take so long to launch now on xbox series x

frank badger
slow sequoia
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In no other game is it possible to lose 10 hours of progress in 50 mins. Fix this unbalanced shitty rs system. Why am I losing 1k-1.5k rs a game to lvl 30 account smurfs

halcyon patio
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THE WHEEL IS DOGSHIT STOP BRINGING IT BACK

lone estuary
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Game is dead till Embark cares about false bans.

Never invest a penny into this company like me.

I burnt around 400$ in 9 seasons and then got banned for cheating with an automated AI support system ... good joke

No wonder player base is dying

vocal bloom
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yeah place me with a lvl 4 while im level 104 and tank my rs thanks

supple cedar
round isle
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I think the circle is a bit too small on dragons circle. +5m radius I think would be better. You gotta assume that 10 players will be trying to stay inside the circle and eliminate eachother

devout pelican
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sick just spun the wheel and landed on golden ticket and got no ticket 10/10 game mechanic

unborn crypt
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changing point beak so all defenders in the contested zone almost instantly die when the last grand vault of that wave is destroyed is so dumb istg, all it does is make people feel bad, before it felt like there was a level of risk reward to either stand and fight to try and get kills, or to run and play your life, now you're just fucked no matter what you choose

hard arrow
royal quiver
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we need a new club expansion to get more "club stuff". more customization like icons and themes, give us club tournaments to rank up the clubs for a reward each season given to every member. if a team of 3 are all in the same club their team name ingame should be the club name instead of the generic teamnames. teach the ai announcers a pool of words that are acceptible to call these teams.

modern dagger
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Give me a killer bunny pet for my armour!!!

wheat sail
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Can you fix the wheel? I have spun 9 times and have 5 duplicates.

void scarab
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dagger is alright imo, but the slowdown could use a bit of a reduction and maybe a slight quicker strong attack drawtime.
would also be nice that if you're 0.1 sec of backstabbing , but the animation isn't finished, that it wouldn't fail completely
i would also love to see sword multi hitting removed as that also happend with sledge on heavy

marsh oriole
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Event golden tickets not registering on wheel, I’ve gotten golden ticket twice and wasn’t given a ticket

idle topaz
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Bug: Selection cursor does not return to loot list after inventory action
After performing an action in my backpack (e.g., selecting "Salvage"), the selection cursor/focus stays anchored in the backpack panel instead of returning to the next item in the active loot list. When I try to continue looting quickly, my input registers on whatever the backpack cursor is still hovering — causing accidental salvages, weapon swaps, or wrong selections. The cursor should reset to the next available loot item after each backpack action is completed.
Steps to reproduce: Open loot screen → select item → choose "Salvage" from backpack → without moving, attempt to select next loot item → cursor is still in backpack panel, not loot list.
Expected: Cursor returns to loot list automatically after backpack action resolves.
Actual: Cursor stays in backpack. Next input fires in wrong panel.
Impact: High — causes unintended salvages and weapon swaps in fast-paced situations.

slow cargo
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embark cares more about ruining in game systems/weapons/gadgets that work rather then take care of cheaters and smurf accounts~

dark niche
round geyser
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Please allow barricades to be placed on walls and roofs 😭😭😭

versed eagle
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RANKED DONT WORK, STIL LBROKEN, STILL SMUIRFS, STILL HACKERS, FIX THE DAMN HACKERS AND GET THEM OUT #REFORM FINALS

twin helm
main vale
dusty igloo
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Spawns feel awful right now, make them more aggressive to be on one cashout, rather then making it so three teams can spawn close to the same cashout

leaden tangle
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One good change to create diversity in medium build could be the nerf to the reanimated teammate by defibrillator. Decreasing the hp from a half bar to 10% hp could force the defib user to protect the partner or heal it using a lot of heal beam or infuser charges. Historically, defib is still that essential pick for the teams, this change should make defib more complex than just revive. Players who use defib could be more strategist than just revive (in low ELO in a danger spot or high elo, using cover, healing them for a little time)

golden shuttle
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g8 game

rancid fractal
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Annoying that the strat to rank up is to 3rd party, I just had 3 ranked games in a row where not a single team fight didn’t get 3rd partied. Is there literally anything the devs can do about this shit?

grand crow
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Spectacular LTM

Still hoping for a Light spec next season, especially something that uses the multidevice

fallen wigeon
# marsh oriole Event golden tickets not registering on wheel, I’ve gotten golden ticket twice a...

You have to roll the same slot 3x. The first time you get the item. The second time the slot turns into a golden ticket. The third time you actually get the golden ticket. It's clearly laid out if you read the event description in game.

Edit to address the below message - it doesn't actually impact the probability of completing the wheel because the chances of landing on the same slot >3 times is quite low. To have a 50% chance of completing the wheel you must get 27-30 tickets out of 45 (complete the dailies on 9-10 days out of 14). Above that your odds of completing the wheel greatly increase (since the odds of hitting on the gold ticket slots is higher because there's more of them) @boreal locust

boreal locust
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Adding to what you said if you land in the same slot for a fourth time you're back to step 2 and have to land on it yet again to get another ticket.

tame chasm
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FIX THE REVIVING PING WHEN I PING MY TEAMMATE'S STATUE IT SHOULD SAY I'M GOING TO REVIVE NOT "HERE" LIKE IT USED TO BE PLEASE
AND FIX THE DAMN EMOTE WHEEL U BROKE IN S6 IT USED TO BE ACCURATE WHEN U WHIP IT OUT AND MOVE UR MOUSE TO A SIDE TO PICK WHAT YOU WANT TO SAY SINCE S6 IT'S BEEN LAGGY GARBAGE SOMETIMES UR MOUSE JUST PICKS A SIDE OF THE SCREEN AND IT PICKS THE WRONG RESPONSE PLEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAASE AND FIX THE WINCH NO REG AND THE DEMAT DELAY AND BUFF MEDIUM SO PEOPLE PLAY IT

brisk kettle
#

Please make the Pearl Strike revolver skins irons sights the same width as the other revolvers <3

crystal umbra
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I have been asking for a hard point game mode in the finals.

This dragons claim has been the first attempt at something like that and I'm just not enjoying it.

While I'm impressed at the creativity and attempt to tie it to theme, it's just not enjoyable to me.

Maybe it's because the mode plays slow?

I want this kind of mode again but no theme, no locked classes, more teams or players per team, and shorter or near instant respawns.

3 teams of 4 would be fun.
2 second respawns (anything shorter please)
Being able to test out the mode without restrictions would be cool.

Also, I ask myself what would the mode play like in Feng City, Monaco, or other maps...

weary steppe
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The lag is currently unplayable for me, but it never has been before :/

solemn badger
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I use the cl-40 and only using that got to diamond with it

the weapon lacks any ttk on other M & H (this is fine btw)

( keep in mind the only weapon the cl-40 will have a better ttk is when fighting a pike when in a MVM match up)

But if u want to reward more direct shots increase the velocity of the shots and maybe make the cycle animation to be slightly faster i am fine with less splash damage but plz then make it more in line with what u have said for wanting direct hits with it

Dev Note: The CL-40’s effectiveness is not great compared to many other Medium weapons. We know facing the CL is frustrating for some players, so we want to be careful with how much we buff it, but these changes are needed to increase its viability. The aim is to incentivize more direct hits with the CL-40, rather than less accurate splash damage shots.

I would also love 2 see data reshaper cool down to be faster ( I do not use it but it takes 28s to come back feels it should be faster if u want more out of it )

aps buff to make the area it blocks lager or let it take more projectiles out as well

And plz watch this

https://youtu.be/5ktmUgHIxas?si=JK352oHhZXIQFs9x

hybrid silo
obtuse nymph
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Hey Embark, as much as I want to love you, fix the connection issue. I have lost thousands of RS due to your game’s disconnects. It is not my fault. The game crashes every round and I get kicked and suspended. Over and over again. Please refund my points. Let me play the game. Please guys. I wanna play. 😔😔😔

hollow sage
# tame chasm FIX THE REVIVING PING WHEN I PING MY TEAMMATE'S STATUE IT SHOULD SAY I'M GOING T...

I follow the same sentiment specifically about pings, outlining my feedback below:

Hey, Embark! Majority solo-queue/no comms player here. Please consider reinstating the ping voice/text lines for intention to revive ("I'm going for the revive! Cover me!"), specifically spotting an enemy ("Enemy spotted!" / "Got a contestant!") and trailing a teammate ("I'm right behind you!"). These lines cannot be effectively replaced by simply having the character say "There!" when, for example, pinging a revive statue (in fact, many players still do it despite it not giving any info whatsoever anymore), and denoting a difference between general danger in an area ("Danger here!") to actually seeing an enemy ("Enemy spotted!") is super important for micro-management and gameplay for someone like me.

I wonder if anyone else feels this way and sincerely hope you consider my feedback! Thank you so much for all you do!

hearty vector
#

embark, sex update please šŸ™

bitter aspen
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Embark please I'm begging you, add an arcade mode that's a playlist of all the tlms you've added. You make so many peak gamemodes just for them to be gone in a 2 week span. For example the ltm rn you modeled and coded an entire dragon for something most of the player base will never see KEEP THESE MODES IN THE GAME SOMEHOW PLEASE

cursive falcon
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Embark, we need some time of single player mode im dying for it, cause the game is so team reliant

signal root
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H+ Infuser can go now, reduce rpm or something. 1 full second of immunity has no place in a game where time management is the most important skill to have

odd linden
#

it would be nice to be able to name and rearrange our builds

wide vortex
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CAN YOU F TUNE DOWN THE AIMASSIT SO THAT IM NOT DEADLOCKED WHEN CLOSER TO 20 M

urban hatch
subtle swan
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i just played a ranked game with randoms, not even 4 minutes into the first round one of them decided that they didn't want to be a part of that game anymore; long story short i lost 1000rs because a random teammate decided to leave why am I punished for his shitty WIFI give me my RS back. these games aren't short it takes a while to make 1000 points but you can lose it in the span of 10 minutes. it is ridiculous this is why this game has such a low player count that continues to go down. i wasted one hour getting 1000 Rs only to lose it in 10 because of a random with shitty WIFI. This game is a waste of fucking time; i left in season 7 and came back this season, and tbh i think I'm ready to leave the game for good because of dumb shit like this that wastes my time. Why would someone want to keep playing a game where shit like this happens. fucking stupid.

old matrix
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I am working under the assumption that the pick rate for the Hover Pad is low, kinda like Data Reshaper.
Just as I made a suggestion for the Data Reshaper (give users a bit more control in what you can reshape objects into or at least a preview of what you'll get when you use it), I'm going to throw one out for the Hover Pad.
Give players some control of the Hover Pad's movement.
Obviously, the mechanic would take some work, and the movement would need to be reasonable, obviously.
First thought that popped into my head was jumping once while on the pad to lock on for movement, jump once again while locked to unlock (e.g., just jumping off the pad).
As for movement, only the vertical movement up and down would be something to figure out.
I have no idea what kind of value this would have (still too little? way too much?), but maybe there's a scenario where your team is hiding out on a hover pad around the side of a building next to a cashout inside and rotates with the pad around for a surprise?
Use it to slowly raise your team up to a higher level? Use it to raise a cashout up?
Anyway, I think you've done an amazing job making so many things in the game viable, but it's still sad to see some gadgets never get picked.

meager shuttle
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Take1E#0207 cheating. Has been known for cheating. If you see this guy, report him. He's playing cashout, you wont really see him much in ranked right now because, you know, maybe because he's cheating and its obvious, so he doesn't get mass reported.

small estuary
#

Can yall add a duel/spar mode in practice range box?

frigid citrus
#

give some mantle settings, would like to be able to chuck equipment from behind a barricade, or hop on top of goo while aiming

ocean chasm
#

Hello guys , I don’t have any issues in my first match, but in my second match, a red clock icon always appears on the right-hand side and there’s lag

slow sequoia
silent grove
#

delete starlight hollow

dense ocean
#

day 71 asking for a free moolah peluche

clear moat
#

GIVE ME SOLO BANK IT PLSSSSSSSSSSSS

stray eagle
#

guys yoou have big problem in eu servers i always disconnect from the rank mode only why is that ???

charred blaze
#

Why does the game think it's ok to -1000 RS even when I get top 3?

Like it doesn't make sense when everybody is just griefing each other in now and I just lose 1000 RS all because we got griefed out?

twin helm
#

awesome embark ive just lost 2 weeks of rs in 3 games

pliant lichen
#

How much child #### do the devs need to consume before they remove low grav from the game? Are we close?

obsidian zenith
#

I do have to note, as bad as the game has gotten, as many people we have lost and possibly never regain, the 10.6 patch has done wonders for me. I easily gained +50% FPS (on low settings with max view range), matchmaking, albeit non-ranked modes are still a hit or miss, ranked seems good, having played it 2 evenings of the past 3 days, and finally, I have not gotten the lag bug once (the red latency marker throughout the whole match) since the new update

pastel lance
#

IDK, i think the games better now then when it first came out

plain lava
#

Rubis 65k šŸ”“ in a game of 33k ā˜ļø average ?

In 1/2 ranked games, its like having a 120kg fat guy boxing match against a 60Kg light weight woman ( I'm the woman) theres no competition at all.
Your ranked systems is interesting, but not adapted to only ~15k player daily

flat tusk
#

I don't care for the new voice lines when our characters respawn
ie "I can do this!"
"make it count!"
"won't let that happen again"

gray pawn
#

FIX THE PING ISSUES! THIS RATE THE LITTLE PLAYER COUNT FINALS HAS WILL JUST GO COMPLETELY! This is annoying having to deal with such crappy servers 2 years into a game.

topaz harbor
# gritty jetty sniper and bow arent meta, i dont know why you would imply that sniper is count...

I was talking about shockwave you dunce... and imagine the only counter to a broken class being "positioning and recoil control", so basically when you play anything 5v5 or more you have to forget about the objective, forget about other targets, you now have to do "positioning and recoil control" just to counter snipers...
the goo nerf is so dumb, it was barely viable before but now its complete trash...
point break desperetly needs a rework: let people choose where to spawn and lower respawn times, buff revive pads, buff healing beam, buff dome shield, why do you need to reload rpg and lockbolt if they have cooldown? why does it take longer to reload on full clip dump? just remove all this bs and go full arcade... bullet drop off is also useless bs...
anything melee also needs to be reworked (except light, light needs to be nerfed)

unkempt viper
#

Proposition: Since Season 9 added the ability to change sponsors at any moment there's appeared one small problem... Grind. Fans are more difficult to earn than XP but I understand why it is but there is one solution that could make the grind for those sponsor stuff a bit more easier: reward fans for daily and club contracts. The amount shouldn't too big but just enough to make it less of slog. I suggest giving daily contracts a value of 75-100 fans and 50 fans for club ones per contract.

spice dagger
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even with crossplay off its constant aim assist slow controller aim on the replays. Its aim assist the new meta

tame chasm
# hollow sage I follow the same sentiment specifically about pings, outlining my feedback belo...

yes there should be 8 pings 4 on each side when you hold down the ping button

  • danger 4 on the left:
    the danger ones
    1 footsteps there
    2 pay attention here
    3 enemy there
    4 full team there
    the comms 4 on the right:
    1 group up
    2 defending
    3 breach
    4 hold position
    the 1 click ping should be something generic like "here" or even just a sound unless ur pinging a statue or an objective then that should just be "reviving cover me" unless you hold again then u'd have 2 options 1 on each side "wait I'll revive" "revive them" same with objective "steal" "defend" as defaults and but you can pick between or "I'll steal" when you hold

and fix the damn wheels and the default ping on the attacker side in point break it just makes the vame feel neglected when such issues are just there

vital basin
#

Embark TALK TO US about what you are actually planning for a ā€œmelee reworkā€ because it currently seems like you don’t even know what it is

slim thicket
#

4rth light spec when

finite creek
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Embark falsely banned my account since November 2025, and up until now, all I have been getting have been the same seemingly automated message stating that they trust their anti-cheat so much and that I MUST have cheated, even when I know for a fact that I haven't. Never installed any cheats before. I have other online games and I haven't been banned on those. This is honestly frustrating. Participated in the playtest, played from Season 1. Started buying the Battle Pass in Season 2 and poof! Just banned for nothing.

daring ingot
#

DAY 50 of asking for Head2Head to be added back

dreamy geode
#

WTF EMBARK, PEOPLE ARE LEAVING GAMES LEFT AND RIGHT AND I GET A RESTRICTION BECAUSE MY NETWORK CONNECTION GOES DOWN ONCE IN >700H ?

copper blaze
#

Make the crossbow from the event the standard crossbow.

brave moss
#

Turn down the likelihood of Starlight Hollow.

The correct percentage (until it gets redone) is 0%.

(But genuinely... turn it down. I get it 75 - 80% of the queues)

crimson ledge
#

PLS remove aim assist and bullet magnetism for controller

lunar vault
#

Deagles feel much better after the spread reduction but they still feel a lil underwhelming, the dispersion when spam firing still feels a little high for close range encounters where you cant just crouch + "ads"

Also idk if its just me but they feel like they have incredibly slow bullet travel time to the point im missing shots on people in close quarters while my crosshair is on them perfectly.. because they're sprinting/moving too fast

glass fulcrum
#

dont spam fire, slow down a bit
spread increases with each consecutive shot, give the deagles a little bit of time inbetween to regain accuracy (dispersion circle helps understanding this)

snow flint
#

I have Ziggo as internet provider in the Netherlands and I'm getting a constant yellow lag icon in every game, Point break but also Ranked. This is mostly happening since last patch and even reconnecting doesn't fix it.

I have a cabled 1gbs connection.

ember canyon
#

So I can't play with a friend thats higher than 10k from my rank in ranked, but i can play against platinum as a silver??? Get out of here
Was 17k, and 2 teams were 37k and above, i mean what???

rare tangle
#

50 fps 1% lows and 24+ ms latency. hmm what physics is my cpu calculating when nothing is happening? why is everybody using unreal engine as if it is going to fix your lack of knowledge

plucky estuary
#

I'm not sure what the intent with the goo nerf was, but it feels almost exactly the same with guns, but melee feels much worse for closing distance and combos don't work anymore. On top of this, the infinite goo stall cheese is practically untouched.

tender glade
wicked glade
#

been sitting here waiting for someone to connect for the last 20 mins its ranked oh what a day orf_pfff

dark niche
azure pendant
#

Istl there going to be a saber skin for the light sword not a light saber or something similar

wind flame
#
  • The smoke from destroying walls or floors stay for way too long, and are a bit too intense at times. It's almost better than smoke grenades, as it stays for a lot longer.
  • Make ranked either Head2Head, or remake the "RS" into "cash extracted". There's still an incentive for the leading team to team up with the lowest team to get them in, but if they had to sacrifice their own RS for it, it discourage teaming with other teams. Adjusting the entry cost for a tourney would be how you balance the gain / loss.
  • Charge and slam does a bit too much free damage, and logically it doing the same damage as an RPG doesn't make sense. I suggest making the knockback the main focus of the specification, and give it damage when enemies get knocked into a wall.
  • The mythic ghost hair is very difficult to fight against, as the outline of their head tracks the hair floating, making hitting headshots harder. It's literally pay-to-win
pseudo leaf
#

Show us the map rotation.

shrewd ferry
#

Sword lights are making me want to hanf myself

mild gull
#

How to correctly balance the 93R

The recent 93R changes made it an overpowered light deleter while having basically no effect on the classes it struggles against, which are medium and heavy. Hence, Embark needs to look at other ways to balance it rather than altering the damage.
This can be done by making the burst delay shorter, which will make it more viable against ALL classes while not making it overpowered versus lights.

Proposed 93R changes:
RPM - 1000 (current cycle rate)
Damage: 24** (revert from 25 back to 24)**
Burst delay: 0,284s > 0,235s (RPM 210 -> 260)

This change will result in the following TTKs (Time-to-kill):

Body:
light: 0,52s -> ~ ** 0,71s** (7 shots) (does NOT 2 burst lights with body shots only)
medium: 1.21s -> ~ 1,12s (11 shots)
heavy: 1.68s -> ~ 1,54s (15 shots)

Head:
light: 0.40s -> ~ 0,415s (5 shots)
medium: 0.81s -> ~ 0,71s (7 shots)
heavy: 1.21s -> ~ 1,065s (10 shots)

Damage drop-off minimum range: 30m ->** 27m**
Damage drop-off maximum range: 37.5m ->** 34.5m**
Damage Dropoff Modifier @ Max Range: 50%** (it stays the same)**

Keep the mag size at** 21** to preserve the 93R's punishing nature.

These changes will make the weapon solid while not making it overpowered; for comparison, the ARN, a weapon with effectively a 60 round magazine, more range, and fully automatic has TTKs that are on average 10% faster than the 93R (except light). This makes it effectively a completely superior option while being easier to use and way more forgiving. Missing a burst on the 93R means you are extremely penalised in your killing potential. This isn't the case for the ARN.

I feel the need to mention that the 93R had these TTKs in this proposal until patch 2.9.0, yet it wasn't used because of its high recoil and lower range than the XP-54 at the time. So it wouldn't be an unprecedented change. We now have better range and lower recoil, so now is the time to truly balance this weapon once and for all.

pure vine
#

why can't we favorite expressoins/sounds/emotes like we can with cosmetics

lime lark
#

Lots of frame drops after latest patch. Dam cns at it again.

primal hornet
#

Why is the game allowing pro players to play without anti cheat

pastel lance
#

Feed back- put this game in a BR game mode. šŸ”„ . 100 player BR with this physics engine might be wild fun 100%.

stark flax
#

The fantasy Limited Time game mode is so fun and I really hope you guys keep it in, but I was thinking because they have too heavy playable characters and two medium playable characters but only one light I was thinking maybe doing a second character like an assassin class with a throwing knives

smoky gust
#

dragon's claim is usually really fun

but giving the fastest class a ranged, instant objective denier, was not a good idea
especially since you cant defend yourself against it while holding the very objective that you need

you might be almost done charging it, just for them to hit you, and run with it to squeeze more capture for their team before the objective goes live
while being guaranteed to have first dibs, since they can nullify anyone around it when the banner first spawns in
in a mode where there is such a massive payout for planting the objective, its way too decisive

open elm
#

IM BEGGING YOU GET RID OF SNIPERS FROM POWERSHIFT, ADD FLINCH LIKE EVERY OTHER GAME,IM BEGGING YOU GET RID OF SNIPERS FROM POWERSHIFT, ADD FLINCH LIKE EVERY OTHER GAME,IM BEGGING YOU GET RID OF SNIPERS FROM POWERSHIFT, ADD FLINCH LIKE EVERY OTHER GAME,IM BEGGING YOU GET RID OF SNIPERS FROM POWERSHIFT, ADD FLINCH LIKE EVERY OTHER GAME,IM BEGGING YOU GET RID OF SNIPERS FROM POWERSHIFT, ADD FLINCH LIKE EVERY OTHER GAME,IM BEGGING YOU GET RID OF SNIPERS FROM POWERSHIFT, ADD FLINCH LIKE EVERY OTHER GAME,IM BEGGING YOU GET RID OF SNIPERS FROM POWERSHIFT, ADD FLINCH LIKE EVERY OTHER GAME,IM BEGGING YOU GET RID OF SNIPERS FROM POWERSHIFT, ADD FLINCH LIKE EVERY OTHER GAME,IM BEGGING YOU GET RID OF SNIPERS FROM POWERSHIFT, ADD FLINCH LIKE EVERY OTHER GAME,IM BEGGING YOU GET RID OF SNIPERS FROM POWERSHIFT, ADD FLINCH LIKE EVERY OTHER GAME,IM BEGGING YOU GET RID OF SNIPERS FROM POWERSHIFT, ADD FLINCH LIKE EVERY OTHER GAME,IM BEGGING YOU GET RID OF SNIPERS FROM POWERSHIFT, ADD FLINCH LIKE EVERY OTHER GAME,IM BEGGING YOU GET RID OF SNIPERS FROM POWERSHIFT, ADD FLINCH LIKE EVERY OTHER GAME,IM BEGGING YOU GET RID OF SNIPERS FROM POWERSHIFT,

warped meteor
#

Bring back Head 2 Head

old matrix
#

(1) Data Reshaper rework (refined):

  • Buff to area it reshapes objects in
  • Consider the ability to reshape certain architectural features
  • Primary fire - Works as originally intended (e.g., for running up to a cashout and reshaping defenders' utility)
  • Secondary fire - Brings up a wheel with 3 sets of objects to choose from based on what is in the reshaper's range, to make it more like a 'Swiss Army Knife'-type gadget
    (2) Hover Pad rework (refined):
  • Buff the size of the pad slightly so a full team can stand a bit more comfortably on it
  • Give it mobility with a moderate speed
  • Activate mobility by jumping once on it to lock in. While locked in, normal movement for forward, back, left, right; primary and secondary fire for up, down
  • Jump once again to unlock mobility, re-enabling the ability to utilize weapons or other utility, or to jump off the pad
    (3) Melee rework (prospectively):
  • Others have noted that improving audio cues would help to address complaints
  • Also, giving melee users a 10%(?) increase to their cues (e.g., footsteps) might be fair and defensible
  • Potentially even with room to then buff some melees
    (4) Other feedback:
  • A small thing, but I hope you will preserve players’ season stats for each game mode so they can be seen in future seasons. I am enjoying tracking them, and comparing them across seasons would be nice.
  • Agree with @odd linden that it would be nice to be able to name and rearrange our builds, and also give them each their own player card
  • In your RS rework for next season, pls make placings in any Cashout rounds matter. Would help with griefing and teaming. Less so teaming, but that's an unfixable problem in a 4-team mode. Something to pls bear in mind in all future design decisions.
  • Once again, I feel bad for people still experiencing performance issues, but I have been very satisfied with the stability and performance of the game recently. Greatly appreciate the amazing work on that.
empty needle
#

the rewards looked waz more beautifuol with the silver than with the black

gritty jetty
gray pawn
#

FIX YOUR SERVERS! CRAPPY PING ISSUES

whole rivet
#

When can they make it so that in ranked you need atleast 150 hours to play it i have having teamates who just started playing the finals ruining all my matches

tepid summit
#

if you want people to enjoy this game then stop balancing so hard and make stuff fun to play, bring lots of tech into the game and stop removing them

sterile canopy
# cursive urchin If you played THE FINALS when rotational AA was 50%, you'd know it was obviously...

Not a controller player so I don't have that experience.

They're arbitrary until we have evidence regarding the scaling of the algorithms they are used in. A bigger value in one game could totally have a smaller impact than a smaller value in another. You need evidence for it to make sense to confidently assert this, and so far it seems that we have a single intuited data point and no actual data.

topaz harbor
# gritty jetty me when i have to think about what im doing instead of mindlessly running around...

somehow I knew you lacked reading comprehension yet I still chose to treat you like a normal human... that was a mistake on my part and I deeply regret it... here, let me spell it out for you: I don't care about cashout bs, keep everything as is for cashout but give me a separate meta for point break!
let people spawn where they want, let people choose their loadouts after they have spawn, I want a stronger Heavy and Light desperately needs to be nerfed... wench needs a buff, either lower the cooldown or even better make it a 2 charge use, dome shield is the equivalent of a fart in the wind and needs to be buffed, spear also could use some work...

inland lagoon
#

nerf the crossbow. its too overpowered.

the medium chimera.

elder wyvern
tranquil karma
dense tartan
#

wtf - if a Point Break match goes to time everyone just gets kicked and you get no EXP or nothing??? You can't be serious, this is like a huge grindfest and then it ends like this?!

copper mulch
#

THE WINCH
I don't like the winch as it's currently designed. It's probably the most boring way a chain CC could be implemented in a game; roadhog's hook was a nerf magnet for a REASON. It just works. Nerfs never have or ever will fix the instant win button it can be

"Let's make things interesting."

CLEAR SIGNALLING
You now enter an animation that has a distinct sound for 2.0-4.5s, spinning the chain first before tossing it at your opponent. The longer you swing, the farther you can reach. You can activate it again to cancel it during this state. +Aura

At 2.5s the range is 8m, and at 4.5s the range is 40m. However, you can only keep it fully charged for 4 seconds. If you run it out, it's treated as a miss in terms of cooldown (10s).

To counter the range, Cashbox Stations are incredibly heavy, and your maximum distance you can pull them is halved; for example, fully charging it only allows you to pull it 20m if you send it rather than 40m, and you reel it towards you at 33% the speed of normal objects and players, also reducing bonus distance from momentum.

STUN CHANGES
Only stuns for .1 seconds, and they'd no longer arrive in front of you neatly; they'd carry any momentum from being pulled unless the person winched hits you with a quick melee, which will interrupt the winch and remove momentum. In addition...

DRAGGING.
When you grab an object, you can now hold down the activation key to keep them a certain distance (you can move), and any time you let go they'll be pulled further towards you. Note, the chain has 150 health, and can be broken. But if you time it right, you can pull them directly towards you with enough time for a sick skill shot.

You can indefinitely pull objects this way, including separated parts of the arena, but can't affect enemy revive statues.

Meanwhile, cash stations can ONLY be dragged if they're within 8 meters of you, and your speed is reduced by 33% while doing so.

Players/cashboxes can only be dragged for 3s.

Thoughts?

frozen tree
crisp latch
#

ADD MYTHICS OR LEGENDARY SKINS TO HIGHER LEVELS OR UNIQUE REWARDS... THAT WAY PEOPLE WON'T USE ALT ACCOUNTS TO SMURF..... OR ADD WEOPONS LEVEL UP OR SOME BENEFITS TO KEEP GRINDING ON ONE ACCOUNT..... SMURFS SEASON IS BEGINNING.....

hearty sentinel
#

letting the servers get this bad during esports seasaon is devious

lunar juniper
#

we need an 'avoid as teammate' list with 3-5ppl for at least 48h
and a report club name button
ALSO FIX THE MF CRASHES, the finals is the ONLY game that crashes from time to time like come on guys

celest flume
void scarab
#

dagger is alright imo, but the slowdown could use a bit of a reduction and maybe a slight quicker strong attack drawtime.
would also be nice that if you're 0.1 sec of backstabbing , but the animation isn't finished, that it wouldn't fail completely
i would also love to see sword multi hitting removed as that also happend with sledge on heavy

vital basin
cursive urchin
#

Weapons without a reload mechanic undermine the game's design balance.

plush robin
fresh mantle
#

remooooooove starlight holloooooow! it's a dreadful map.

versed cloud
#

Nerf Shockwave. Also let us opt out of games in-progress. If not, I will just leave the game in progress. No point doing someone elses work. Also fix your anti-shit because it don't stop cheaters.

eager gyro
#
  • Thank you for the Shockwave buff

10.3.0 nerf was ridiculous, thank god you reverted that.

  • Bring back Head 2 Head

With the removal of Arena Debut, this was expected to return. There was no clarification on why you removed this mode ever.

  • Friend List

Completely bugged. Shows friends as online, playing, or queueing when they are not. Issue introduced this season 10.

  • Chat Censoring

Bugged since release. Some insults pass through while common words are censored inconsistently. This is frustrating.
PLEASE ADD A TOGGLE TO DISABLE THIS FEATURE.

minor star
#

Serious feedback on Sword

I played Sword for about 1000h (hit rank 90 with it before) and a few things get lost in the heated "Sword is overpowered/unplayable" discussion.

First of all both sides need to be understood where they are coming from.

Yes in a casual lobby where people don't hit the important shots a Sword that is just running around and left clicking people to death seems absurd, overpowered and has little to do with skill expression.

The Problem is as soon as you cross the line of people investing enough time to hit even just a moderate amount of their shots left clicks become less and less viable and you have to learn combos and movement tricks to minimize the damage you take while maximizing the damage output. That's where the sword lunge comes in. Lunging is the part where skill expression shows with movement, spacial awareness and positioning. With reducing the damage AND introducing a rotation clamp the lunge becomes really clunky to use and less effective than the simpler M1 spamm.

So what can Embark do to fix the issue for both sides ? Put the focus of the weapon back on the lunge to reduce frustrating scenarios.

Second Problem, lunging through an entire team and dealing massive damage with very little counterplay should not be a thing. It is very frustrating to play against and extremely situational. It should be like other melee weapons. Left clicking less damage but can multihit and the "special attack" single target but is special in some way. Hammer has a single target high damage and destruction. Sword should have single target damage on the lunge but high mobility.

The rotational clamp itself got introduced to get rid of people 360° rotating through an entire team for a huge hurtbox and is without multihits therefore redundant. The server sided calculation of it has been bugged ever since it got introduced but has never been adressed. In the current season flicking the lunge will still yank back your entire camera and make accurate aiming impossible.

I intentionally didn't talk about hit registration because it haunts the game as a whole and has only gotten worse in the beginning of season 10 but of course it increases the frustration for alot of people. Hit detection, desyncs and server performance in general should be a heavy focus for you because it is very frustrating and from experience playing with alot of different people a big reason people ragequit or in general leave the game. Like all other bugs it should not be a reason to increase/decrease the weapons power and should rather be fixed.

Changes

M1 Damage 88 -> 74 (one more left click for each class)

Lunge Multihits -> removed
Lunge Damage 120 -> 140 (without multihits and less left click damage you need the combo breakpoint of 136 to have a fighting chance)
Lunge rotational clamp -> removed

Other Feedback

Ranked needs one less round. The current playerbase can't sustain proper matchmaking with 24 player lobbies. Cutting it in half with 12 player lobbies and 2 rounds for everyone so even the "losing teams" play for 3rd place would not only help with players being on similar skill levels but also relieve frustration for the casual playerbase from losing rs in 15 mins but gaining the same amount in 45 mins.

Small QOL Updates You have so many good features that would be little work for you but would impact the community positively and fill the content breaks. One example would be releasing the collected data about weapons etc. as an api just like for example "op.gg" or "lolalytics" from League of Legends. Collab with the talented people in your community that already built sites like the leaderboard/bans/rename tracker. Other ones would be changing the weapon stats to numbers instead of a vague bar so it's more readable, adding assists to the profile or having a simple match history that locally saves the stats of the last 10 games or so.

tender sail
#

What's the point in having Overtime in Dragon's Claim if the moment the banner blows up it's game over? Literally just means the team keeping it in OT couldn't win for the last 2 minutes and are fighting for no reason.

Honestly, every time I think you guys couldn't get any dumber you sure lower the bar.

copper blaze
#

Nerf dash.
Remove nullifier.

junior prairie
#

The game is great but there needs to be some balance some guns you have to use a whole clip a few need only just 6 rounds also dash needs a rework the cool down time is too fast plus you get 3 that's unfair when they only use swords and smg on top of that if Ur able to catch up and I'm 130 meters that's a prob finally when u get revived u have no abilities to get away in a bad position. Also one thing u guy really need to focus on is aim assist that's what killed cod people abusing it force people have to use skills not a crutch the fact that my wife is trash at all games but sims and she dropped 17 kills is a big prob

dark niche
mossy prairie
#

The finals would be even more peak if they had a duels mode like a 1v1 - 3v3 kinda like gunfight from cod

scenic spade
#

Seriously, why does the Winch Claw have stun attached to it? The Winch Claw is already great at manipulating the environment, does it really need to be a guaranteed kill too?

clever scarab
#

apparently a point break match ends on its own after a certain amount of time.
ive fallen victum to this too once or twice
either fix that or add fixxed 20 minute timer

wind marsh
#

Is the Chimera fire rate bugged? Dont see anything in the patch notes but it fires super slowly now

still rose
#

Sometimes when I go into the practice range, the music follows me into it and keeps playing. If a track finishes, it will play a new one.
Please don't "fix" this, just turn this into a feature for not only practice range, but for other modes too. and for the feature add a seperate slider for "in match music."

young drum
#

the xp was given 2 extra bullets but those bullets dont matter because the reload animation starts at 34, launching the recoil pattern to the left at the end. Give XP 17 damage and reduce ammo to 32, and make reload speed .3 seconds faster with and without being empty

stuck sentinel
#

fix ranked pls

craggy basin
sonic nymph
#

Fix your anti cheat system
The cheaters are ruining the game

honest wing
sacred siren
plush parrot
#

I would love a Durag that wasn't locked behind a limited time battle pass

opaque cliff
#

The game has crashed, and terminated with exitcode: 1.

SID: d80inpegiojmp07t5m4g
TID: 4609238232224984806

ExitCode: 1 fix this

spare ocean
verbal kayak
# stuck sentinel fix ranked pls

The bronze is in a party abusing the matchmaker to queue into gold lobbies, golds can get matchmaked with rubies (for some reason) and as such, he can get into your game. Awful system.

old matrix
#

The balancing in the game seems pretty solid at the moment, so I hesitate to ask, but is there a maximum heal rate in the game? Should there be? I ask because I recall there being a nerf to double heal beam back in the day, and now that we have heal beam, H+ infuser, healing emitter, and even the blue healing balls, I wonder if any of those currently double up, now.

Separately, if a maximum heal rate was implemented, should that maximum rate be scaled to the different classes’ overall health pools? I’m not saying scale the amount of heals that each one of the healing gadgets does per second, only what the maximum is if getting healed by multiple gadgets simultaneously.

hollow sage
#

C'mon, Embark. I just got second highest score in a match and didn't get even one show token despite the timer running out. Please rework how show tokens are earned, I'm begging you.

obsidian zenith
#

Why does anyone bother with trying to give any balance ideas here, they never listen, they never will, this game is so trash, and the devs are worse, i swear to god....

How is smurfing allowed in a competitive game? Do you want to drive away new players? Sure! Lets allow completely rookie players, players who may have never even seen a shooter before, to meet esports players, and people, who have been ruby since ruby was introduced!!! That will definitely make people go "Oh gee let me go suffer a few more games!"

Why are we allowed to meet any single person, who has a greater difference to our RS than 8000, if we are solo queueing? Why can I be matched with back-to-back diamonds and rubies, who are actually current 40k+ RS too, while I am trying to recover form the shitass ranked system you guys claimed to have fixed, twice now? Why can I match up, as a team of 72K-75K RS, with teams that are 120K+ RS? What makes you think I will gladly spend another minute playing this stupid ass system.

marsh geyser
#

I love this game and it’s amazing. But I don’t want to spend 20 dollars just for the current battle pass. I’d like a subscription for 20 dollars a month for every battle pass. It can have whatever else but I think I’d prefer that a bit more. namaheart

waxen thicket
# minor star __**Serious feedback on Sword**__ I played Sword for about 1000h (hit rank 90 w...

lol the copypaste sword sweat is back, here's why they'll NEVER revert sword clamp (again)

  • before the clamp, Sword M2 was absurdly spammy. You didn't need to aim your thrust, just hold M2, release, and shake your mouse/joystick vigorously so that the hitbox is all around you. That ain't intuitive, that's cheese meant to make up for lack of aiming skill.

  • In fencing, thrust attacks are realistically seen as a high-risk, high-reward attack, since it gives you a lot of reach and power momentarity, at the cost of being utterly predictable and defenseless during recovery. The current aim clamp is not only reeling the spammy nature of Sword M2, it's also quite realistic and whoever added this change did their research on sword fights. Kudos to the balance team for that.

  • Before the M1 buff, it was even more useless than quick melee. 75 damage per swing, you'd need 4 hits on Medium and 5 hits on Heavy to take them out, 1 less with quick melee. With that ttk, using M2 was the only viable path. You only want it to be nerfed because you never used it, because you were just a filthy M2 spammer. Now with your crutch gone, you're still crying instead of learning.

  • 140 damage M2, funnily enough, only changes the ttk on Medium cos Light and Heavy class keeps the same ttk with 120 damage thrust . You want the damage buffed on the thrust because you're so bad against Mediums that you can't even afford to land a quick melee after the 2nd thrust attack and get shredded by them (lol). This small piece reveals everything about you, about how unskilled you are, and sadly, about your inability to learn.

  • You keep spamming the same copypasta again and again and again and again. You think the devs haven't seen it 100 times over already?All the changes you proposed doesn't address the core issue for WHY they made the sword changes in the first place: It had no counterplay point-blank. Just spam M2, dash, repeat. This ain't tricky, this is spammy. You want that spam back. Git gud.

obtuse phoenix
#

The new spawns are the only think i dont like. Feel like im just running back and forth all game now

olive fulcrum
#

the game would be way more fun if Light class didn't exist.

steep anchor
#

add matchmaking to quickplay it's mostly steamrolls rn

midnight aurora
#

can they just scrap the wheel. having to land on the same spot 3 times to get something is rather annoying

woeful cedar
#

Maybe add additional tiers to the specialization reward track, or at least show xp progress beyond it

paper falcon
#

The event wheel is a joke and a scam.

pure vine
#

dragon's claim the enemy team all switched to light/archer in the final push and just stood around and sniped us for chump change, screw this player base

sinful grotto
#

Yo why does spear does less damage in dragon’s claim?

analog gyro
#

I feel like the mastery skins take WAY to long to obtain, i saw someone do the math and it was at least 160 hours for ONE weapon to hit level 13. that seems a bit steep to me. Does anyone else think the same?

gritty jetty
#

cashout tournaments do not reward skill, head2head ranked would solve griefing and mostly solve unbalanced matches

gentle agate
vagrant scarab
#

the hover pad needs adjustments. I can see the vision but it’s not implemented well as you can only get use out of the hover pad by using other gadgets like a jump pad or a turret to place on it and make a gimmick gunship out of it. Which is not worth using a gadget slot for.

Suggestion: the hover pad needs a significant horizontal speed increase especially when blasted by a shockwave. That way it allows us to launch pad in a given direction. Example scenario, if a teammate has a box and there’s only 15 seconds to put it into a cashout, I can place a hover pad, get my teammate to stand on it then use shockwave to launch the pad horizontally in the desired direction like a hockey puck at insane speeds to reach the cashout in time.

The shockwave currently doesn’t move the hover pad at all which is ridiculous.

Another example, I could place the hover pad in a room, place mines on the hover pad then when an enemy comes in I can launch the hover pad horizontally in their direction using quick melee or enhancing it using shockwave which blows them up.

Either way the hover pad is not worth using in its current state. Please turn it into a hockey puck that sails horizontally at high speeds, that’s the only change you need to introduce new tech I can use. Let me launch my bro horizontally across the map sailing on the hover pad.

The hoverpad being a slow fixed position pad in the air is pointless when you’re at a better advantage just standing on solid ground instead of a tiny disc with 150hp. BUT if it could sail horizontally it would be insane.

novel trench
#

Can we move the stickers off the labels of the newest throwable skins? They're fantastic but the sticker placement on a few leave much to be desired.

meager shuttle
cursive urchin
#

In comp moving platforms and kyoto don't exist, remove them from ranked too.

dusky vapor
#

Either make queue times longer for better, tighter, more fair matches OR do smaller tournaments (4 teams then finals, 2 rounds). Getting back to back to back seed 8 wide match ratings is miserable

nocturne tendon
#

Point Break is the most unbalanced game mode ever
Defenders are able to spawn kill cause the kill barrier placement on all maps is very moronically placed, heavies can destroy everything and make it impossible for attackers to plant the bomb in the middle of the no cover open, defenders respawn too fast

grand smelt
placid parrot
#

i really hope one day yall actually rework ranked

rancid glade
#

Would anyone know if they are working on skill matchmaking?

shrewd dirge
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why tf am i queuing back to back solo queue ranked games with a teammate that disconnects

wise ice
#

Make the game more better and less worse

hazy mountain
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When are u gonna enable us using the practice range whilst we are in queue??

tired ibex
#

cant load into prac range

stuck sentinel
tranquil karma
#

Next light weapon martini henry??? (I play a bunch of bf1)

undone dagger
#

Bring back qualifying by doubling the cash!
Only allow double jeopardy to activate on the teams with the first and second highest cash amount.
I really miss this part of the game a lot.

cerulean echo
#

disproportionate occasions of death spectator camera being stuck inside of architecture.

fleet socket
graceful hollow
#

this image is my game feedback

tender glade
prime vale
#

please decrease the activation cost of cloak, or at the very least increase the time in which you can be de-cloaked (via enemy damage) without losing any cloak meter. I think its called the mercy period but anyways please extend this thing at the very least.

mortal kiln
hybrid patio
#

can we please get cute minimalistic nama tama merch in game? like a loose baggy t shirt so i can see my nama watch while i play?

or like a nama fcar… and badge???

glass light
shell fractal
#

New update made recoil control on certain guns terrible

solemn badger
#

I use the cl-40 and only using that got to diamond with it

the weapon lacks any ttk on other M & H (this is fine btw)

( keep in mind the only weapon the cl-40 will have a better ttk is when fighting a pike when in a MVM match up)

But if u want to reward more direct shots increase the velocity of the shots and maybe make the cycle animation to be slightly faster i am fine with less splash damage but plz then make it more in line with what u have said for wanting direct hits with it

Dev Note: The CL-40’s effectiveness is not great compared to many other Medium weapons. We know facing the CL is frustrating for some players, so we want to be careful with how much we buff it, but these changes are needed to increase its viability. The aim is to incentivize more direct hits with the CL-40, rather than less accurate splash damage shots.

I would also love 2 see data reshaper cool down to be faster ( I do not use it but it takes 28s to come back feels it should be faster if u want more out of it )

aps buff to make the area it blocks lager or let it take more projectiles out as well

And plz watch this

https://youtu.be/5ktmUgHIxas?si=JK352oHhZXIQFs9x

rustic vault
#

I wish they were a bit more open with data. For starters that the career stats page showed assists, and individual gadget/weapon stats, I would love to see which maps I perform best on, accuracy with weapons, how many steals I have.

They could even do a monthly post of just random statistics like ā€œhow many barricades used this monthā€ or ā€œthis many cash boxes were deposited from +50mā€, just more stuff to engage with the community honestly in a different way to streams and ama’s.

lethal siren
#

I ran the new wheel event odds through lots of simulations: it's so so so SO MUCH more forgiving than the old wheel. Embark is goated

gloomy cape
#

Changes I want:
Sledge:
Primary:Improved hit reg
Secondary:Damage increased from 175->195. Can be held to charge up the heavy attack, holding hammer above the player’s head
Alt:Thrusts the hammer forwards, dealing 20 damage and pushing the enemy back 15m (distance increases with players momentum). There is a wind-up period similar to the secondary attack-can be held. Requires 1 hit to break wood, 2 for stone/concrete
Dev noteā€“ā€œWe feel like the sledgehammer is in a good spot right now, so we haven’t made any drastic changes to it. The minor increase in secondary attack damage is to keep the ttk against heavies more competitive by reducing the impact of healing applied to the target. Bringing back a fan favourite move from heavy hitters, the alt fire is more of a utility rather than an attack. The distance of the knockback purposely pushes the enemy outside of winch range, removing the ability for any unintended combos or exploitsā€
Spear:
Primary:The first slash is multi-hit, with the two jabs are single target
Secondary:Each spin requires an individual input, or held to complete full animation. Removed the maximum number of targets
Alt:Can be held down to charge a throw with a range of 22m. Acting as a projectile, when thrown, the spear does not deal damage, instead it slightly disrupts enemy movement by knocking them 1.5m out of the projectile’s trajectory. If thrown at a wall, the spear will become a physical object that is able to be mantled to use for traversal
Dev noteā€“ā€œThe spears secondary attack has been a source of frustration for users for some time now, leading to the rise of exploits such as ā€˜emote cancelling’. This change allows the spear to be a more versatile weapon and opens up more options for kill combos without any significant changes to the ttk. The alt fire helps make up for heavy’s lack of mobility, particularly when using this weapon. We feel like this addition will allow the weapon to be closer to the sledgehammer from a utility perspective"

tawny oak
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buff servers, lately there have been lots of desyncs, lag, shot delay and more issues, please actually do something

clear moat
#

EMBARK FIX THE MATCHMAKING IS THIS GAME IM LEVEL 120+ AND IM GETTING MATCH MADE WITH LITERAL LEVEL 10'S WHO NEVER TOUCHED AN FPS IN THEY'RE LIFE FIX IT PLEASE

hearty sentinel
#

You servers are chalked again lol

craggy basin
vague ore
#

bro i swear this game is gonna give me a heart attack
been playing the finals for like 300~ hours and i love it but my ping is 120-180ms EVERY. SINGLE. GAME. meanwhile on other shooters im chilling at 30-50?? like what
tried everything already. wired, router restart, kicked everyone off the wifi. nothing. so its not my internet its literally the servers
middle east has zero servers i think?? keeps throwing me into EU and the delay is just... u can feel it. lose fights i shouldve won and i just sit there like šŸ’€
anyone else from the region getting this or is it just me lol. also has embark said anything about mena servers bc i rlly dont wanna uninstall this game its too fun.

scarlet jackal
minor star
#

Serious feedback on Sword

I played Sword for about 1000h (hit rank 90 with it before) and a few things get lost in the heated "Sword is overpowered/unplayable" discussion.

First of all both sides need to be understood where they are coming from.

Yes in a casual lobby where people don't hit the important shots a Sword that is just running around and left clicking people to death seems absurd, overpowered and has little to do with skill expression.

The Problem is as soon as you cross the line of people investing enough time to hit even just a moderate amount of their shots left clicks become less and less viable and you have to learn combos and movement tricks to minimize the damage you take while maximizing the damage output. That's where the sword lunge comes in. Lunging is the part where skill expression shows with movement, spacial awareness and positioning. With reducing the damage AND introducing a rotation clamp the lunge becomes really clunky to use and less effective than the simpler M1 spamm.

So what can Embark do to fix the issue for both sides ? Put the focus of the weapon back on the lunge to reduce frustrating scenarios.

Second Problem, lunging through an entire team and dealing massive damage with very little counterplay should not be a thing. It is very frustrating to play against and extremely situational. It should be like other melee weapons. Left clicking less damage but can multihit and the "special attack" single target but is special in some way. Hammer has a single target high damage and destruction. Sword should have single target damage on the lunge but high mobility.

The rotational clamp itself got introduced to get rid of people 360° rotating through an entire team for a huge hurtbox and is without multihits therefore redundant. The server sided calculation of it has been bugged ever since it got introduced but has never been adressed. In the current season flicking the lunge will still yank back your entire camera and make accurate aiming impossible.

I intentionally didn't talk about hit registration because it haunts the game as a whole and has only gotten worse in the beginning of season 10 but of course it increases the frustration for alot of people. Hit detection, desyncs and server performance in general should be a heavy focus for you because it is very frustrating and from experience playing with alot of different people a big reason people ragequit or in general leave the game. Like all other bugs it should not be a reason to increase/decrease the weapons power and should rather be fixed.

Changes

M1 Damage 88 -> 74 (one more left click for each class)

Lunge Multihits -> removed
Lunge Damage 120 -> 140 (without multihits and less left click damage you need the combo breakpoint of 136 to have a fighting chance)
Lunge rotational clamp -> removed

Other Feedback

Ranked needs one less round. The current playerbase can't sustain proper matchmaking with 24 player lobbies. Cutting it in half with 12 player lobbies and 2 rounds for everyone so even the "losing teams" play for 3rd place would not only help with players being on similar skill levels but also relieve frustration for the casual playerbase from losing rs in 15 mins but gaining the same amount in 45 mins.

Small QOL Updates You have so many good features that would be little work for you but would impact the community positively and fill the content breaks. One example would be releasing the collected data about weapons etc. as an api just like for example "op.gg" or "lolalytics" from League of Legends. Collab with the talented people in your community that already built sites like the leaderboard/bans/rename tracker. Other ones would be changing the weapon stats to numbers instead of a vague bar so it's more readable, adding assists to the profile or having a simple match history that locally saves the stats of the last 10 games or so.

shrewd ferry
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GARBAGE MATCHMAKING

sterile canopy
untold drum
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Revive Medium for S12

  • Damage Buff & Slight Health Nerf.

  • Define a Meta. FCAR, CB Repeater, or an M16 AR (Powerful 3 round bursts, Short mag).

  • Buff Heal Beam to compete with other healing options within reason.

  • Don't listen to the calls to nerf Medium again by H & L's when you do buff M, because they will complain relentlessly.

Give other classes the fun content, just give Medium viable Meta options like the other two.

echo urchin
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Quartermaster: Medium specialization that lets you have 6 gadgets total.

Why this specialization is awesome:

  1. It opens up an insane amount of options for medium to really flush out different play styles and roles,
  2. It leans in to medium being a flex support class, it also is a specialization that is useful or fun for every part of a match and in terms of the actual experience (not just niche scenarios). Vs demat which can be totally useless in many instances, or turret that is tantamount to baby sitting a nearsighted roomba with a temper.
  3. Suddenly a bunch of utterly mid gadgets are fucking awesome thanks to the synergy you can achieve by combining them.

In terms of controls/button bindings: For modifier button or directional equipping: standard gadgets activated through the usual buttons, while the three additional gadgets are activated by double clicking the corresponding usual button (1 for 4, 2 for 5, 3 for 6). Simply add more options for wheel.

dark niche
desert forum
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Nerf the M11 shit is waaay to easy to use and waay to powerful especially at deleting health at range does waay to much for too little

remote wagon
#

The Current Ranked System, Solo-Queue Experience & A Format Proposal

After playing for over 500 hours, I have to say that the current Ranked experience, especially for solo players, is incredibly frustrating. It feels impossible to rank up without a premade team. Even prominent Embark Stream Partners are constantly complaining about the exact same issues.

The Main Issues:

Matchmaking: As a solo player, I am constantly paired with complete beginners who lack basic game sense, positioning, and team play. It makes climbing back to Platinum feel impossible.

Third-Partying / "Griefing": The current tournament format heavily rewards third-partying and griefing, which takes away from actual skill-based engagements.

A Proposal for a New Bracket Format:
To make fights fairer and reduce the constant third-partying, the tournament structure could be adjusted:

Round 1: Standard 1v1v1v1 match.

Round 2 (Semi-Finals): Break it down into two separate 1v1 matches (e.g., 1st vs 2nd from previous round, and 3rd vs 4th).

Round 3 (Finals): The winners of those 1v1s fight in a final 1v1 match.

This might not fix all issues perfectly, but it would provide much fairer, skill-based fights without the constant chaos of four teams griefing each other at one objective. Please look into the solo-queue experience!

fresh token
vocal gate
#

I don't know if it was posted here already, but we need some new stuff to spend those eq points
nothing big, nothing game changing, just some cosmetics for example or few big cosmetics that you can funnel your points into
Even switching the cheapest cosmetics/level up cosmetics to be bought would be cool
having 5k/5k most of time and then getting one new thing just to unlock everything day 1 is a bit silly

hoary stump
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Embark your game is SHIT. In my last 2 matches i was stuck under the cathedral in Monaco and i could not move, die, respawn or help my team in any way. Pls just fix your fucking game im tired of loosing games to stupid bugs... Anyway just go fuck your self

safe ravine
twilit cypress
wild galleon
# twilit cypress very thoughtful, considerate feedback...

Quite the wordsmith, I agree. An absolute savant with vocabulary and diction.

Hey devs, love your game (been playing since mid season 6). I think it’s great and don’t get the hate like LeDude thinks he can throw at you.

Truly my only gripe is smurfs. It’s a plague in every game, not just yours. I’d really appreciate if you took a stand and combated this issue.

But if you choose not to, maybe give me the option to shut off stats and levels on a person’s player card? Totally down with getting cooked by a level 110 with 10,000 kills. But a level 10 with 1,000 doesn’t feel good.

If I wasn’t being mocked and spat on by a Smurf player card I’d probably not care as much.

hearty coyote
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Fix the social menu. This is getting old.

tiny cape
#

Winch?

rich hull
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I think I'll stop playing ARC until they design a dedicated server for PvE. Players are cheating and we're busy killing ARC players.

simple abyss
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Yo what's with me being put into the same lobbies with the same fucking cheaters. Embark bann cheating in your fucking game. Or else I am just gonna stop spending money on it

molten cave
junior cloud
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PLEASE FIX POINT BREAK, I HAVE TO BE DEFENDER 10 TIMES IN A ROW BEFORE BEING ATTACKER JUST ONCE

sly charm
#

Just got a queue restriction for leaving a ranked match when the game didnt wanna let me Connect to the game. Also a penalty for afk. Thanks

wide vortex
#

F GET THE WINCH OUT OF THIS GAME ALREADY IT IS SO FU STUPID

spark shard
#

Game in the deepest decadence:

  • No matchmaking, the most unfair system the video game industry has created is the most appalling thing I have ever seen (gold and platinum solo queue vs diamonds reaching ruby, ruby or esports players in stack/team... such a system aberration is impressive)
  • Soft cheats.
  • Smurfs.
  • No bans (a real bans).
  • No room for solo queue.
  • Server performance on the same level as watching a Commodore 64 run Microsoft Flight Simulator.
  • Kyoto map still here.

Keep focusing on preparing a great and successful TGM26 (and of course, the store!), this is the most important thing for keeping the game alive 🤔

lucid prism
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stop releasing so many cosmetics i dont want a maid outfit i want a <50gb game 😭 āœŒļø

hushed blade
#

Is it just me or has the friendslist been bugged for quite a while now? Friends being displayed as playing 24/7, people in lobbies with others but are actually solo

waxen thicket
# minor star __**Serious feedback on Sword**__ I played Sword for about 1000h (hit rank 90 w...

lol the copypaste sword sweat is back, here's why they'll NEVER revert sword clamp (again)

  • before the clamp, Sword M2 was absurdly spammy. You didn't need to aim your thrust, just hold M2, release, and shake your mouse/joystick vigorously so that the hitbox is all around you. That ain't intuitive, that's cheese meant to make up for lack of aiming skill.

  • In fencing, thrust attacks are realistically seen as a high-risk, high-reward attack, since it gives you a lot of reach and power momentarity, at the cost of being utterly predictable and defenseless during recovery. The current aim clamp is not only reeling the spammy nature of Sword M2, it's also quite realistic and whoever added this change did their research on sword fights. Kudos to the balance team for that.

  • Before the M1 buff, it was even more useless than quick melee. 75 damage per swing, you'd need 4 hits on Medium and 5 hits on Heavy to take them out, 1 less with quick melee. With that ttk, using M2 was the only viable path. You only want it to be nerfed because you never used it, because you were just a filthy M2 spammer. Now with your crutch gone, you're still crying instead of learning.

  • 140 damage M2, funnily enough, only changes the ttk on Medium cos Light and Heavy class keeps the same ttk with 120 damage thrust . You want the damage buffed on the thrust because you're so bad against Mediums that you can't even afford to land a quick melee after the 2nd thrust attack and get shredded by them (lol). This small piece reveals everything about you, about how unskilled you are, and sadly, about your inability to learn.

  • You keep spamming the same copypasta again and again and again and again. You think the devs haven't seen it 100 times over already?All the changes you proposed doesn't address the core issue for WHY they made the sword changes in the first place: It had no counterplay point-blank. Just spam M2, dash, repeat. This ain't tricky, this is spammy. You want that spam back. Git gud.

silent grove
#

make ranked not miserable
buff sledgehammer
delete starlight hollow

dont make h2h ranked
it would be the most boring shit ever

gritty jetty
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ranked head2head, the current ranked mode does not reward skill. head2head would mostly solve team imbalance.

the only reason anybody would want ranked to be cashout is because they're too bad to win without getting griefed in

@dull tiger people dont play ranked to have fun

dull tiger
mighty steeple
#

The dragon from the Dragons Revenge game mode should be an event in the normal cashout game. At least for this season.

versed knot
fluid raptor
#

getting a match froze my pc so i had to restart my game and i just got a fucking inactivity penalty and queue penalty. what the fuck?

do NOT make h2h ranked btw, make it one game of cashout then the final h2h instead to ensure better match quality and make games quicker while keeping cashout, the very thing that makes this game unique and fun.

cerulean echo
#

Is it possible to use current data metrics to create a new batch of achievements? This could be a free way to create the illusion that the game is not finished yet

slender laurel
#

Anyone else stuck on a waiting for other players to connect screen before a game for longer than two minutes???

wise rain
#

Ok so Initially I had thought the wheel had solved the chance of not being able to get all the items but im convinced you mislead me on purpose with the wording.
I dont GET a golden ticket for landing on an already earned item
the spot gets REPLACED with the CHANCE to get a golden ticket.
Now I know you are aware of what people hate about this whole wheel BS but you are still intentionally making it chance based because you REALLY want the FOMO.
Not even Gacha games are this predatory for player numbers.

white pine
#

We gotta revert spawns back to how they were in season 9 lol

Or better yet what's so hard about changing spawning avoid free third parties.

There's no intelligence for these third parties, Team B gets beat by team A, spawns in with full resources right on top of a depleted team C or D

I know they know this is an issue but cash out just feels so luck based until this gets addressed

sick heart
#

https://youtu.be/sboBtnL9HgA?si=sY5RCwv3xepJi5oj PLEASE EMBARK, watch this quality video. In your AMA you did with Matt, show how badly you understand melee and skill expression. Don't kill the game by chasing "fairness" wrongfully! Stop encouraging players with bad perception of the game by giving them comfort.

celest acorn
unkempt geyser
devout dawn
placid parrot
#

Remove Winch or nerf its dmg to 0, Buff KS and Sledge m1 to 105

frosty sierra
#

bro when in on sword mains lol

knotty escarp
limpid quiver
#

GIVE ME BACK TERMINAL ATTTTTTACCCCCKKKKK

cursive radish
#

Hello Embark! I’d like to share some feedback and suggestions:

  1. Weapon presets / crosshair changes in-game
    Being able to switch weapon presets or crosshairs mid-match would be a great QoL feature and reduce the need to constantly enter/leave the practice range.

  2. ā€œDo Not Reviveā€ improvements
    In chaotic modes like Point Break, chat messages are easy to miss. A clearer ā€œDo Not Reviveā€ option would help avoid wasting respawn tokens and unwanted revives while changing loadouts.

  3. Preview emotes in player cards
    It would be great to preview emotes in player cards before purchasing them. Since THE FINALS is such a fast-paced FPS, I think that emotes are mostly used for player card poses rather than during gameplay.

  4. Better rewards for Top 10 / Top 100 players
    Current high-rank rewards feel underwhelming and identical across most of the top 500, which hurts long-term motivation and encourages smurfing. More exclusive ranked cosmetics or seasonal rewards tied to final rank would make grinding feel more rewarding.

  5. Heavy specialization idea – ā€œWrecking Ballā€ concept
    Just throwing this idea out there as inspiration for a future Heavy specialization. The Heavy fires a hook toward a structure and swings forward using momentum like a human wrecking ball. Missing the hook would trigger cooldown, similar to the Winch Claw. The goal wouldn’t be raw speed, but giving Heavy a more creative mobility/destruction tool while fitting the class identity.

Thanks for reading!

plucky estuary
#

Bring back goo sledge

swift compass
arctic olive
#

THIS GAME GENUINLEY HAS THE WORST RANKED SYSTEM I HAVE EVER SEEN

hollow sage
#

It is of my expert opinion that grinding Show Tokens is officially worse than leveling up the APS Turret. That is all.

dense ocean
#

day 72 asking for a free moolah peluche

thorn gulch
#

seriously one guy leaves first round i still get over 500 RS minus? And you call that compensation?

Fuck whover came up with this bad system

Also Fuck "Spicy" below 100% cheated and now tries to get his account back. https://www.davg25.com/app/the-finals-leaderboard-tracker/banned-players/

Last 3 days according to him so it's 60%+ confident at least, probably more in the 90%+s

manic tinsel
#

Dear Embark Team,

I really loved this Game so much even that i have accumilated 819.4 h of playing within two seasons or so...Only for me to get PERMA banned out of the blue for no reason whatsoever. I most likely got banned because of a so called "third party" software for my graphic tablet for creating art...you cannot use it to get any advantages but your system still dedected it as such. Just like many other people who have seemingly be wronged with such permanent bans while their reports got burried deep within automatic AI responses. People who kindly put money into your game and you guys dont use it to pay someone to fix this huge issue? this is a problem that will hit more and more people till there is no real player base anymore ^^ so pls kindly fix this issue so people can enjoy the game again.

I would like to say in kind regards but the situation is to disheartening-

low skiff
#

So Stun Gun was an issue but a 350hp fker can grab, pull me right to his face, and have a stun where he can fire first. Where’s the logic? Developers don’t play the game I’m convinced.

cedar garnet
#

My people does someone know if on the new season will add more spaces to the outfits or more slots to contestens ?

wintry kettle
#

Just got perma banned today after a win in ranked, idk why I’ve been playing since season 1 and never had any issues

plush egret
mild gull
#

How to correctly balance the 93R

The recent 93R changes made it an overpowered light deleter while having basically no effect on the classes it struggles against, which are medium and heavy. Hence, Embark needs to look at other ways to balance it rather than altering the damage.
This can be done by making the burst delay shorter, which will make it more viable against ALL classes while not making it overpowered versus lights.

Proposed 93R changes:
RPM - 1000 (current cycle rate)
Damage: 24** (revert from 25 back to 24)**
Burst delay: 0,284s > 0,235s (RPM 210 -> 260)

This change will result in the following TTKs (Time-to-kill):

Body:
light: 0,52s -> ~ ** 0,71s** (7 shots) (does NOT 2 burst lights with body shots only)
medium: 1.21s -> ~ 1,12s (11 shots)
heavy: 1.68s -> ~ 1,54s (15 shots)

Head:
light: 0.40s -> ~ 0,415s (5 shots)
medium: 0.81s -> ~ 0,71s (7 shots)
heavy: 1.21s -> ~ 1,065s (10 shots)

Damage drop-off minimum range: 30m ->** 27m**
Damage drop-off maximum range: 37.5m ->** 34.5m**
Damage Dropoff Modifier @ Max Range: 50%** (it stays the same)**

Keep the mag size at** 21** to preserve the 93R's punishing nature.

These changes will make the weapon solid while not making it overpowered; for comparison, the ARN, a weapon with effectively a 60 round magazine, more range, and fully automatic has TTKs that are on average 10% faster than the 93R (except light). This makes it effectively a completely superior option while being easier to use and way more forgiving. Missing a burst on the 93R means you are extremely penalised in your killing potential. This isn't the case for the ARN.

I feel the need to mention that the 93R had these TTKs in this proposal until patch 2.9.0, yet it wasn't used because of its high recoil and lower range than the XP-54 at the time. So it wouldn't be an unprecedented change. We now have better range and lower recoil, so now is the time to truly balance this weapon once and for all.

pure vine
#

can we please get the ability to FAVORITE cosmetic items?

we can SORT by favorite but can' favorite them

tired meadow
versed cloud
#

You guys need to fix your shitty anti-cheat. Just searching on youtube and I easily find tons of people cheating in this game and arc raiders. And yet, you guys can't even stop the people who do these things publicly? Nice way to keep your game integrity high. I would link them but I don't want to condone cheating and they have links to the cheats in the videos themselves.

feral shard
prisma vault
#

Please revert the RS changes you made this week. Used to lose 500-600 rs on a first round knockout which was at least able to be gained back in 2-3 games in mid diamond and now I lose over 900. This has caused me to drop thousands of RS in like 2-3 matches. I do not understand what the goal is here.

open vessel
#

Please fix the spawning systems it’s the end of the round we have a cash point that will make us win then we wipe but i have stall so cool then we respawn nobody’s taking yet BUT WERE 200m AWAY SO TGEY TWKE AND WE LOSE WHY AM I SPAWNING 200m AWAY FROM MYYYYYY CASHOUT WHY WHY

slate mauve
#

Not being able to play since the last update ultimately forced me to say farewell to this game.

Thanks for not responding to any ticket.

Thanks for enduring my complaints and sending feedback straight to the shredder.

Starts with 1 Embark.

"SERVER NOT RESPONDING; WE CANNOT CONNECT YOU TO A MATCH."
...it's probably because fucking Denuvo. Great job with that idea.

warped meteor
#

Bring back Head 2 Head

rose belfry
jovial bane
#

Bumped into unranked cheaters earlier, it was crazy. When I tell you they could auto locate and had auto aim on us, believe me

floral venture
#

Yo is it just me or is the matchmaking kinda buns rn?

For example I lobby with my friends 1 unranked and the other high silver (around 18k) now I'm a low gold (~21k) after a loosing streak, however my opponents are a three stack of plats (all around 32k), a triple gold (all 27k) and a 2 plat /gold (gold was 29k). How is this fair matchmaking? At the time I was around 4k lower than the next lowest player in the tourney.

Another example: I try and solo que for some hopefully more balanced games however I load in with a 10k and a 17k. I'm at around 21k (so low gold) and I have a teammate with half my RS. I'm going against triple golds while I have 2 silvers on my team. Again how is this fair matchmaking?

On a side note the amount of former dimonds and RUBYS in low gold is kinda wild. Not to mention the smurfs.

All in all I would take longer que times if it resolved this unbalanced matchmaking in ranked.

jaunty flax
#

maybe ad a 3 round rs loss decrease when u rank up to a new elo?

sharp wagon
#

Embark. Tech and exploits are 2 different things šŸ¤

plain escarp
cosmic oriole
#

Game bugs out and I get a ban from playing cashout for abandoning the match when the whole lobby got kicked in the second round

sonic spoke
prime vale
#

Please add a iron sight option to the sr-84, I dont even care if the glare persists I just want an iron sight on the sr-84 please embark

real zodiac
#

Make solos on dous

odd cedar
#

lowkey the match balance rn is just unplayable. pretty much every lobby im in is just one or two teams of full diamonds/rubies and i just cant even enjoy the game. casual btw, ranked is even worse

spice zenith
#

Why not nerf the bow in Dragons Claim if you nerf the x-bow?

bright mason
#

BRING BACK HEAD TO HEAD NOWWWWWWW

verbal kayak
#

This matchmaker is insane lmao, silvers in a lobby with diamonds

hearty dagger
#

SECOND FRAG GRENADE

lavish falcon
#

Yayyy, 3 matches in a row as a 31k RP Plat i have 51 k Rp Ruby in my lobby, which tend to get to first place and "gift" a doubled cashout to the weakest team which i do not belong to.
Its like this every match for me rn. Unplayable game srsly.
I feel like Im just a toturial dummy for these teams

daring ingot
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DAY 51 of asking for Head2Head to be added back

west skiff
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Pls revert goo

copper mulch
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LIVE SPECTATING + BETTING
Let us do something with our spare VRS or even Show Tokens (NOT multibucks please) and bet on teams we can freely spectate in a mode similar to Deadlock's. It might result in a system similar to Recruit & Rise, but hopefully with rewards that are actually worth the effort. You'd know which teams have what stats, and could bet at any time in the first half of the first bracket, but the earlier you place your bet and the 'least likely' team (I.e. one with the least overall stats) you pick, the greater the reward at the end depending on your chosen team's performance. You could even choose to look at the other half of the first 4v4 bracket so, in the second bracket, when you have the choice to change your mind or double-or-nothing, you can make a decision with some of that data too.

The betting part just feels like it's thematic to The Finals, and would be a fun audience addition besides. Imagine having an actual audience to react to gameplay, that would be sick af. I honestly think a freely available spectate mode meshes with the game so well that I'm shocked it wasn't implemented before Deadlock. It would seamlessly fit into the overall experience. The betting part isn't necessary, but it would give another incentive to have big audiences.

boreal viper
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day 1 of asking them to nerf m11

feral fossil
# waxen thicket lol the copypaste sword sweat is back, here's why they'll NEVER revert sword cla...

First off, stop with the ad hominems--they are not constructive at all, and just clutter the discussion on sword.

  1. M1 is currently more spammy and significantly less skill. Also, this topic on M2 lunge being able to spin around in a 360 is literally addressed by removing the multihit. We sword mains also think this is silly, and that is why we are advocating to remove it (removing the multihit on M2 and the aim clamp)

  2. We are playing a virtual game show where aliens blow up the arena and people burst into coins. Realism is not the intent here. Second, aim clamping someone is about the most unrealistic thing possible. Our movement in real life isn't restricted by 40 degrees. Also, even if we discuss realism here, having a thrusting attack that can attack multiple opponents is unrealistic as well, thus, remove the multihit on M2 and remove the aim clamp.

  3. First, it was 74 DMG per swing originally, not 75 (that would give it the same hits to kill as it currently has). M1 spam is signficantly less skilled than M2 being the dominant attack. It also provides zero depth to the weapon if the main attack is just clicking M1 while on top of a target. M2 requires positioning and movement skill to keep dodging around the opponent (or else you get instantly deleted after lunging at an opponent).

  4. You are partially correct here. Changing the M2 ttk for Light and Heavy would make sword overpowered, thus, we sword mains are trying to avoid that. However, buffing M2 to 140 would enable some more combos with the primary attack, such as: M2 + M2 + M1 to kill a heavy, or M2 + M1 + QM to kill a medium (giving more viability to M1, something you were complaining about as underused). Keep in mind, this would restore it to Season 1 balancing on the Sword, a state where no one complained about it being overpowered.

  5. Calling a top 100 player bad is quite brave. Also, sword DOES have counterplay point blank: any mine, winch, goo grenade, jump pad, glitch mine, any shotgun, etc

sonic nymph
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Banned cheaters, your anti-cheat system sucks it’s better to work on it than to be working on cosmetics. It’s absolutely annoying. Secondly your servers are the most worse servers I’ve ever seen.

stiff egret
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FIX THE CHEATING ISSUES!!!!!

waxen thicket
# feral fossil First off, stop with the ad hominems--they are not constructive at all, and just...

Embark added aim clamp to make skillless M2 thrusts easier to punish, and crying for it's removal only proves the actual lack of aiming skill on the crying kids. True, bad aim is why y'all are playing swords in the first place, but still, you can't just expect to use M2 whenever you want carelessly and still win every fight point-blank, do you?

Aim clamp on M2 is quite a brilliant thing, not just for letting lights easily avoid a whiff by shaking their mouse all around, but also making sure that enemies can avoid the thrust attacks as well. As a Heavy main I have personally punished so many cocky lights just by watching them prepare the M2 and simply taking a sidestep and punishing their whiff. They still CAN hit me, just not by making it obvious. Even funnier considering I checked my weapon xp on Light, and was surprised to find out I also have the highest level on Sword. Probably that's why I look down on people who asks for removal of aim clamp, they're simply bad at adapting to new changes and understanding what necessitated the change.

The thing is, even with the dps buff on M1 it only serves to defeat low level scrubs with 0 team coordination. 88 damage doesn't make it spammy, it barely makes it useful. Because even with 75 damage instead of 74, you'd need 4 hits on Heavy if you sneak in a qm in the end, and as the devs have clearly demonstrated with the Hammer nerf, they WANT to remove the reliance on qm to make combos. Personally I'm torn on it because qm combos are quite fun, but I'm waiting for the melee rework to see what they're preparing. If it's bad, I'll complain then. But aim clamp? That's pure lack of learning.

And top 100 players isn't quite that respectable considering the recent allegations regarding devs favouring them with anticheat exclusions and whatnot. Sorry if that doesn't garner my respect, especially if that someone has been spamming the same AI-generated paragraph again and again for months just like his pre-nerf M2. Ad hominem? Lol

obtuse vault
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random idea make the pulse special for the medium a weapon kinda like the throwing knives on light but the alt click is the pulse thing still somehow

unborn jetty
sharp sun
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Can we please get some kind of PvE mode so I can get my friends that aren’t into PvP into the game? I have several friends willing to get into this game if PvE is added. Thanks.

shell fractal
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fix the xp45

sage sonnet
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When looking at the cashout, please severely dim the icons of dead teammates. This is looking at a cashout from 12 meters away. The cashout is sideways on the ground and there is a Heavy crouched on the other side stealing, right at the center point of the cashout.
There is no destruction dust, but I am looking through an anti-gravity field. I've lost multiple games to just not being able to see through dead teammate icons

coral flame
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Started getting frame rate drops anytime an input is pressed that gets worse as the game progresses going as low as a constant average of 11 fps even though the game was running perfectly fine yesterday

sour parrot
proud viper
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I didn’t play for a season and my silver friends are now in high gold after coming back. This is heavily influenced by the placements being very skewed towards your last rank. I’m still playing with them, but I’m still mid silver, and the RP differential isn’t changing. I feel like it sucks that I’m playing in high gold/plat lobbies (bc there have been multiple ranked rounds where we’re eighth seed and post match we see that almost everyone else is plat 4 or plat 3) and we stand to gain RP at the end of the round, but I don’t gain barely any more than my friends so the gap never closes. Yes I can play the game more and gain on my own time sure, but I’m busy with life and 95% of the time my friends are on when I get on. Telling me to ignore my friends and play alone would be dumb bc we’re doing pretty decently and frankly I wanna game with my boys. So yeah I feel like there should be something like a catch up mechanic for squads of three in ranked to close the gap between friends.

spark crown
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fix the practice range bug that keeps you stuck in the loading screen

tawny oak
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Please fix the crossplay servers, more console players = shittier pc reg and damage issues, desync galore when there are more console players, update your anticheat to detect xim/cronus, too many console players having no recoil and insta lock on players. fix the game and its mm please

grand crow
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Hope whoever has the least specs rn gets one next season

torpid quarry
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The servers have been highly un reliable today

coarse shore
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Any way we could bump up the cash values you can earn across different game modes? Deep pockets is the last achievement I have left and this is proving to be brutal, only 51% of the way there.

Or, at least, bring back Bank It. At least there you could earn cash fast

shrewd comet
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FIX SKILL BASED MATCHMAKING

cursive urchin
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Hey Devs / Feedback team,

I wanted to give constructive feedback on controller aim assist, specifically Target Tracking, which is currently set at 35%.

The S1 nerf from 50% down to 35% was a good step toward reducing the sticky feel. However, based on hard data from R5 Reloaded 1v1 servers in Apex Legends, 35% is still way too strong.

For context:

  • In R5 (post Season 22 nerf, using 0.3 or 30% rotational aim assist, which is almost identical to what The Finals currently uses at 35%), the numbers are striking:
    • Average controller accuracy: 36.54%
    • Average MNK accuracy: 28.41%
    • That creates an 8+ percentage point gap with a massive effect size (Cohen's d = 2.25).
    • The average controller player is more accurate than over 99% of all MNK players in the dataset.
    • 60% of controller players beat the top 1% of MNK players.
    • Even the best MNK player (around 41% accuracy) only sits around the 42nd percentile of controller players.

These stats come from dedicated players grinding 1v1s with publicly tracked data on r5r.dev. Different games and implementations do not change the core point here.

The Finals features even more aggressive movement than Apex. On top of that, The Finals includes zoom snapping, which Apex does not have. This combination makes the overall aim assist even stronger. If 30% rotational aim assist already creates that level of tracking dominance in R5, then 35% in The Finals is almost certainly still giving controllers an oversized advantage in close to mid range fights.

Suggestion: Please consider dropping Target Tracking further, ideally to 20 to 25% (or even test 15% like some R5 servers that reached much closer parity). It would still feel helpful without turning tracking into autopilot, and it would allow mechanical skill and movement, to shine more.

This is not "controllers are OP" whining. It is purely data driven. Lowering it would make the game healthier and more competitive for everyone in the long term.

subtle swan
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advertise the game better so that ranked games aren't being queued with the same 12 people