👂┇game-feedback

[fleet meteor]

We're in season 7 now and here I was hoping they'd buff the dual blades and riot shield... instead they just nerf the other melee weapons...

[plain shard]

this is all honesty, i would love all the new maps on all gamemodes, only having new maps on certain gamemodes makes it so that certain people will probably not get to experience it

[clever gyro]

Can you guys also post that in-game launched video on YouTube, I find it more convincing than the trailer to hype up my friends to hop back on

[limpid remnant]

infinite sonar is back and i didnt even use sonar nades or anything

[cerulean horizon]

I am not even a sledge hammer user but I am sad for my fellow bonkers. I don't think this nerf was necessary

[honest elk]

Can we have a server tag for the finals on discord?

[mild pond]

nearly $50 for 10 battle pass cosmetics is outrageous! what the fuck!

[autumn warren]

YALL GET ON RANKED BRUH. THESE QUEUES SOME DOG WATER

[worn hull]

Still no sword buff... 😦

[hard badger]

My game crashed in the first 3 matches... Didnt happen in season 6

[rustic vault]

Most of the player-base is at school or work

[mint crest]

There should be a way to select which skins can be shuffed. For example I have a couple good skins for a gun i want to swap between, but I don't want the dye job skins being picked. Maybe based on rarity at least

[fringe mirage]

I agree. And not only for daggers.

Sledgehammer → Was the only fair balanced melee weapon. You destroyed it. Now killing will take much more time and heavy does not have the same sticking power as a light. When even medium struggle, it's crazy 😂

Spear and Shield → i have not played them enough to properly talk about them, though, if you actually read some feedback of the ACTUAL user of these weapon, it's clear they have so many fucking problems.

Sword → Still do not understand the damage nerf up to this day when EVERY specialization can out dps you during a lunge. Now the time to kill require you to be a OTP of the sword to not just die to any contestant you meet. It's ridiculous. People tell you that if the spin2win is too much, then nerf THAT... instead of the damage output.

Dagger → Oh my... This is by far the worst melee to play, and you make it worse and worse. It's beyond comprehension.

You have the fastest movement character, getting slower than the slowest character, at the moment it needs it the most.
Then, server makes backstabs inconsistent as fuck, (i did see some improvement within the last update in season 6, but i've heard it's highly dependent on the person.) yet, you nerfed the angle because the receiving end is louder than the 3 moron that actually plays the weapon.

You never see a dagger in matches, i never got outplayed by a dagger, because most of people using it will be a dude trying it out and understanding how dogshit the weapon is . Yet, it still get nerfed again and again. There are only a few people that do wish this weapon to be appreciated, and manage to make it barely work.

Overall, as a melee only player, the direction you are taking is awfull. It's worse than not being heard at this point, because the only changes there are into melee, are nerfs, nerfs, nerfs. Why even bother adding melee if it's to burry them deep underground until it feels useless to use ?

You don't want Quick melee combo, but even guns can do them. The amount of time a SNIPER killed me faster at close range than me with me melee, i'm just.... dumbfounded. Melee is now High Risk & No Reward.

It just put me off the game. Please, do hear constructive critisism of player actually playing weapon, instead of nerfing every weapon that random people that only complain of weapon they don't know how to counter.

(PS: There are a few ranged weapon i DESPISE playing against as a light melee player, like Double Bareel, Medium's grenade launcher, YET i can live with the fact these weapon are made to counter me, and i won't complain like other people for no reason.)

[tired escarp]

My man speaking facts, love the last part.

[brave sable]

screw your melee weapons they don’t belong in a fps. nerf them again.

[frosty apex]

New battle pass is bad with the ultimate tier Embark change it to old system please

[hazy adder]

I agree. They couldn't have screwed up a battle pass system any worse. It's really not an issue that the old battle passes are back, which wasn't really necessary, but that now there's a battle pass that's three times more expensive (or rather, that the best part - which is also just 10 Characters who define the whole season - of the battle pass is only available for 30€). And you can't even pay for it with Multibucks, that's the biggest problem. To get the Ultimate Battle Pass, you HAVE to pay. There's no way to earn it. The devs really just shit in the game there. Otherwise, I love the season design and the new cosmetics. But please fix this.

[viscid raft]

this isn't a first person shooter this is a hybrid

[inland bramble]

Embark, at this point just remove melee weapons if you are going to make them fucking useless to use.

[unique wasp]

revert sledge and sword, you can't say "we want melee to be viable" and then leave sword as a weapon solely left viable against people who panic up close and make the sledge matchup against dash light almost impossible.

sledge is the literal reason I got into the game as strong as I did, IMO sledge is the literal spirit of the game. it's a mobility tool, it's a demolition tool, it requires an unconventional playstyle for an FPS, it rewards clever thinking. It represents the game more strongly than any boring-as-fuck AK hitscan beamer ever could.

[fervent shale]

Yea no I’m not buying this battle pass complicated for nothing progressive for weapons the level 11 is literally level 10

[azure dagger]

Maybe because it’s a shooter. They should make a melee only mode so the game’s balanced

[quick coyote]

was going to spend $30 and buy the old battlepasses
not anymore, sledge nerf is insane

[dusty igloo]

So you didnt want to drastically change sledge values, and wanted to remove quick attacks? Then why the fuck does a heavy now have one of the highest ttks in the entire fucking game? 154 is truly awful for the right click, like at least do 175 or something

[tall herald]

"ultimate" battlepass is a fuckin joke, what were you guys thinking with this?
the least i would have expected is that after upgrade to the bought battlepass you can upgrade it once more to ultimate, but you have to buy it for 30bucks... you guys gettin greedy or whats happenin?

[normal crag]

ultimate battle pass xp boost is useless. It is more rewarding to buy the ultimate pass if youre lvl 75 than at the beginning because the last levels take way more xp.

[chilly ridge]

has anyone been able to earn show tokens yet?

[honest furnace]

Sad about hammer nerf. You guys went too far, should have been a buff ngl

[slow python]

Return the sledgehammer to its damage, what did it do to you?! Don't touch something that was already working stably!

[restive grove]

hey guys can we talk about the medium being literally dead?

[tame vessel]

Here is a list of weapons that need to be buffed but not make them meta in the next balance patch

Spear: increase the basic attack damage combo to 70, 80, 95 and increase the spin attack damage to either 120 or 130

KS-23: increase the projectile speed to 500m/s and either add a 1.2x headshot multiplier or decrease the fire rate to 73 RPM and increase the player damage to 120 and increase the environmental damage so it can one shot most walls, I know it's a shotgun but it shoots slug rounds

Riot shield: increase the swing speed by a little and make it so we can bash people while blocking if they get too close and the bash will do no damage but will knock them back a bit but not too far maybe like 5 meters and increase the movement speed when blocking

R.357:Increase the bodyshot damage to 75 and decrease the headshot multiplier to 1.9 therefore making it 75 × 1.9=142.5 and also decrease the fire rate by a little bit maybe from 140 to 130

Dual blades: add a parry mechanic so it can parry secondary attacks of other melee weapons like the sledgehammers overhead charge but it can't parry the primary attacks of other melee weapons and increase the first swing damage from 50 to 55 and increase the second swing damage from 60 to 65 and lastly increase the final attack damage from 65 to 75 and make it so the final attack can be done faster and increase the movement speed when deflecting by just a little bit

AKM: increase magazine capacity to 34, 35 or 36, the choice is yours on what number you choose

ARN-220: increase the fire rate to 750 rpm, decrease the duration of the tactical reload animation from 2.45s to 2.30s, decrease the duration of the full reload animation from 2.80s to 2.60s

Smoke Grenade: decrease the ammo from 3 to 2, and decrease the cooldown from 50s to 20s

please, please Embark these weapons and gadget need some love
Hopefully you guys see this, these emojis will highlight the message so you can see them 🥇:🤠🤯😵:⚽️:grinning:😆🙃😇🫠

[hasty hazel]

I just got 300bucks ingame i reached emerald 1 i thought i would get more?

[coral axle]

the frametiming on -dx11 just got worse what happened?

[red arch]

ruby light weapon -> ruby tracking dart
ruby medium weapon -> ruby heavy barricades? wat

[vast prism]

ranked, last season plat, looking for teammate EU

[stuck void]

I want to start by reminding Embark that they already stripped the Sledgehammer of some its core functionality in season 2. They removed the power to hit multiple players with it, which realistically doesnt track. It’s a big a** hunk of metal on a stick meant to bludgeon people. A swing should be able to hit multiple players considering the power a heavy would have to put behind it.
Anyways, since that was removed, sledgehammer has never seen usage in higher-ranking play or pro lobbies.
The devs reasoning that it is a top three weapon are false. Its melee, to start, making its viability in a fun game much more limited (not that it doesn’t work, but it requires different skills to play well). Also, the swing times can be frustrating for a new player. As a day one sledgehammer main, I have seen it through the sands of time of this game, and I can confidently say that it had more usage during Season 1 than any other season.
With this being said, the reasons you used to justify the nerf performed during this season are unsupportable. I won’t waste time telling you that you made the wrong decision because the evidence speaks enough of that on its own. I want to crack down at the larger underlying issue that is causing many of these majority disliked changes and balances that have occurred over the last seasons. I believe that you are failing to listen to the community as a whole, which is what causes these misguided rebalances.
I have come bearing both criticism and solutions, so as to not fall among the countless others in this channel as a toxic hater:
Community Polls should be integrated into your decision making process. This discord can be ground zero, and the polls should ask the whole community about issues, before you tackle them.
To conclude, from a lifelong Sledgehammer main, I request to You, Embark, that you revert the nerf, and take a better look at your community info gathering tactics, so changes like these do not happen again in the future.

[ionic flower]

Pretty funny to watch Heavies cry over the nerf after weeks of laughing about sword nerf

[inland delta]

The medium has become a purely support class where it is quite difficult to do anything without your team and where the only really viable specialty is the demat, as a main medium I'm tired of just playing the same 3 shitty things because the rest is crap ngl.

[slim harness]

Yall just listen to this
4h slowmode is crazy btw

[ocean tundra]

ultimate battlepass is a bad move

[crude orchid]

fcar 30 round mag, desync on pc where bullets wont register after shooting

[cobalt kernel]

Great Season Embark! but...

BRING BACK BANK IT

We will never stay quiet, will never give up... give it back!

[sour flare]

Was a sword main
And I feel like they shouldn't have nerfed Hammer as I feel it. They killed the sword and I was hoping for a buff but ..... Melee weapons need a specific play style and skill to be used. They have no range. If they can't overpower in close range. Why should anyone even play meele? Please give sword a buff again and hammer people their hammer back. Honor the play styles and skills.

[slender girder]

What's the deal with show tokens? Played my first game and didn't get any. Then someone said you get 1 token for every 2 games.

That would be 690 quickplay games to unlock the final page in S2 BP.

What? What is this?? Don't you understand less people will buy OG BP's once they realise this?

Fix this. Make it obtainable even for casuals.

[lone mirage]

ANYBODY FACED A BUG WHERE THE AKM RELOADS WHEN EQUIPING AND ALSO THE MAG ENDS AT 10 BULLETS AND GOES INTO RELOAD AUTOMATICALLY ? I JUST PLAYED MY FIRST MATCH AFTER THE NEW UPDATE AND ALREADY FACED THIS ISSUE.

[echo urchin]

You also get the xp boost. Someone on Reddit did the math, you get more value by buying it from the beginning.

[covert kite]

so you're telling me that the cerberus can't 3 shot a heavy anymore but the db has been 2 tapping anything in existence since season 1?

[cedar cave]

new season is kickass, i like the skins, i understand your monetisation changes and tbh i think you did actually good with them. But just one more QoL thing, it took me over 15 minutes to find the player number changer in settings, maybe add something like a little bubble to indicate where it is. Otherwise great season, i like it, the menu also doesnt hurt my eyes anymore which is a relief :D

[wind meteor]

adapting a map to Power Shift is not a simple task. Making a path for the platform so that it would still be a fair for both offence and defense in both ways is not easy. Programming the map to react to the platform (destruction) is not as simple as structural damage done by players to the map...

@fringe mirage almost all you said is wrong... the ttk of the sledge hammer did not change. same number of hits, only different combos with the quick melee... nothing else was nerfed in terms of melee weapons.

[rare iris]

Facts.

[upper citrus]

Why??? How are you going to balance the interaction between heavy, who is meant to specialize in close range but has several downsides to ensure its balanced, and medium who has none of those downsides?

High cqc damage will always be problematic on medium. The class doesnt even have to build to stay alive in cqc. Heavy has to fully build with charge/mesh, dome, and sometimes even barricade to stay alive in cqc fights. Medium doesnt need to because the class has no downsides. This design philosophy needs rethinking.

[twin helm]

lights still ruin the game 6 season later

[chrome flint]

w

[digital shoal]

I cannot gift the "Ultimate Battlepass" in the Steam store. Only purchaseable for my own account.

[thorny shard]

Yo why is the ultimate 30$, that’s to mutch make it like 15-20$ and before you ask yes I’m complaining bc I don’t have money

[graceful hollow]

sybau

[silver granite]

pls redo the ARN diamond there needs to be more diamond on the gun pls

[wide summit]

revert sledge nerf

[clear quest]

yes because the db doesnt have burn damage and requires you to be point blank range

[simple cipher]

I love the skins, BUT, for new seasons and new skins we should be able to change the COLOR, there's one I fucking love but i wanted the vest to be Black, there's no option ot do any color change whatsoever 😭😭😭😭

[silver anchor]

revert sledgehammer im begging yall or at least buff some of heavy's weapons (not the flame thrower or grenade launcher) heavy feels horrible to play rn

[honest wing]

im just saying this now when people start complaining about this when it becomes "op"

do not touch the arn

[empty fjord]

The nerf of the sledgehammer is terrible. Why is it that the same medium, shooting well-and therefore wielding his weapon well-can destroy me at medium range with the same revolver or Winchester. But i'm can't do same thing on a close distance with sledgehammer? A player with a sledgehammer cannot n literally not stand up to players in a light class of the same game level. It's already very difficult to catch a player in an easy class, even with a grappling hook due to the dash. And now the game won't even reward you if you do it anyway, a sledgehammer literally can't compete with other heavy weapons. Heavy weapons except the grenade launcher and the spear will be more effective at sledgehammer range. This is the most terrible balance edit.

[radiant blade]

why are europeans getting robbed for 30 euros. It should be 26 euros

[graceful berry]

blind 2 opponents with the flashbang "daily club" contract isn't working? not sure if this has been said and apologize if so

[lusty crane]

pls let us choose WHICH skins are getting shuffled i dont want my yellow lvl 2 skin to show up randomly

[green cliff]

The nerf to cerberus is an absolute joke. It already felt inconsistent enough and now damage is nerfed. If anything that thing needs a buff so the fire effect lasts for more than 2 ticks.

Not wanting the Cerberus to have "potential for very high burst damage" is cool until you think about the fact it has 3 shots. If it has no ammo cap and doesn't deal high burst damage then what is it for? In an ideal scenario the nerf changed nothing but in a less than ideal situation the gun will be that much more useless

If any shotgun deserves a nerf imo it's the SH1900 that can delete a heavy in 2 hits in like half a second.

[pastel sage]

I have a few words to say as a fellow player that loved the KS-23 since it came out.
The buff is great! It feels very powerful just breaking things in 1-2 shots just like lights' spinal cord.
However, the weapon is still feeling frustrating to play with due to the random spread, the very small hitbox and the clunky, uncancellable pump that comes with the weapon. Comparatively, it feels better to hit shots with the bow than with the KS, due to the fludity it comes with it.
A shotgun is supposed to be an high damage close range weapon. It currently is.
However, there's no reason to run it outside breaking the environment, which the heavy is already good at with all of its gadgets and alternative weapons.
I understand that buffing it more is going to make people outrage. I am not suggesting for a damage or an headshot increase.

I suggest:
Make the pump cancellable, like it was originally. Do this for all the other weapons too. It will make quick swapping easier and will benefit the hook combo. Realism makes sense, but it's a game in a virtual environment where shouldering a crane can break it half.
Reduce the damage from 100 to 85, the falloff max reduction from 0.75 to 0.5. This way poke still wins against it and doesn't feel overwhelming.
Increase the ammo count from 6 to 8 to maybe compensate, with an additional hitbox size increase.
Alternatively, instead of cancelling the pump, make the shot recover longer, but make the pump way faster, currently it's 0.7s, lower it to 0.25 or crazier numbers. That way, you don't get punished as much for cancelling too quickly the shot.

[feral sentinel]

revert sledge nerf

[warm echo]

revert sledge nerf

[fathom aurora]

balance team is sleeping

[last mirage]

Idk why they needed to nerf sledge it doesn't do well in ranked and can just be countered by playing distance, which is super common for people who have ranged weapons. now that you have more healing items for all classes it would be now harder to use the sledgehammer WITHOUT the nerfs.

[craggy basin]

Make melee great again

[delicate sierra]

Buff sledgehammer. Fuck the . 1% of your game. They're not the ones making you money.

Balancing for the lowest common denominator is wild. You add all these cool skins for the sledgehammer for it to get gutted.

I legitimately as a solo player ran into sledgehammer maybe 10 or so times in WT versus the plethora of other weapons. It was never used that often to warrant a nerf.

We all know you nerfed it because of the competitive base being absolute chuds. I'm sick of yall balancing around content creators and sub . 1% of the game. They're literally ruining the best niche in the game.

[zinc carbon]

Can we change the new recruit thing, 20 matches is too low. There is so many of my friends that I've rarely played with but I still can't do it with any of them cause they're over the 20

[teal python]

heavy again become OP

[slow crescent]

Ahaah, so looks like Heavy players and Light players in the same boat now 😄

P.S. I still think sword buff is not necessary, and about shedge i dont now(Last time play on it like 3 seasons ago)

[supple cedar]

i miss my sledge :(

[fluid sun]

announces plans to make melee weapons more viable
makes melee weapons less viable
hmmm yes yes makes sense

[supple hearth]

hey. pls add more male voices. the default one sounds terrible. add custom voice odilia as well. you use ai anyway.

[haughty mica]

i swear to god i had this hoodie unlocked in previous seasons, now i can’t find it in my clothes but in the store for 200 mb? wtf is going on here?

[lapis oriole]

Huh? Why AK menu animations changed?

[summer harness]

Please undo hammer changes 💔

[wheat wing]

Please add the ability to change the color of a contestant's eyebrows. Or make the eyebrows match the hair equipped.

Odilia came with a blue-black hair and her eyebrows a red. There are only two red hairs in the entire game (and one of them was for Dede).
It absolutely kills my fashion to have red eyebrows with... Basically any color of hair. A small cosmetic change that would make fashion so much more 👌 !

[north tundra]

Wow the ultimate bp is such a ripoff for what you're getting. It needs to either be purchasable with mbs or it needs to also include the seasonal starter pack cause right now you're spending 30 dollars for almost nothing

[cold rock]

Please keep the hammer changes, they are very sound and healthy for the game

[lament sable]

The contestant numbers have changed!! I want my number back!!

[flint nebula]

Feedback on the Sledgehammer Nerf

As a long-time Sledgehammer main, I’m really frustrated with the recent nerf to its damage. The reduced primary attack from 115 to 100 and secondary from 200 to 154 has completely broken my core playstyle — especially the quick melee combo, which is now no longer viable. This change directly affects my ability to deal with Lights, which were already hard to catch.

If I winch-claw a Light and try to follow up with a heavy attack, they now just dash away before I can land the hit. That’s incredibly punishing for using a melee weapon that already requires you to be in the most dangerous position — close range. It feels like I’m getting punished for committing to a melee style, while Lights constantly get to escape and delete me from a distance.

The Sledgehammer should be a high-risk, high-reward weapon. If a Light gets at close range, they should be punished — not always have the chance to run away and turn the fight. The current nerf makes melee feel unreliable and frustrating, especially when it’s already difficult to reach enemies in fast-paced fights.

I get that you’re trying to balance win rates, but please consider the real impact this has on gameplay feel. Sledgehammer should feel powerful when you land a close-range hit — not like you just wasted your one shot.

Please reconsider how this nerf affects melee players at a core level. It's not just about numbers — it's about how satisfying (or not) the weapon feels to use now.
--- I dont speak english very good so that was translated using chatgpt sorry if there is someting wrong----

[plush sand]

Please fix the noises being stuck i can hear perma sliding noise and perma low health noise

[old minnow]

No melee weapon has ever been OP I thought the sword Nerf was bad little did I know what was coming with the sledgehammer

RIP melee

[pulsar willow]

helo embark
can you please nerf heavy's new gadget and the new light's gadget too? i think both are too strong in current state

heavy's "balls" are basically portative healing beams that take 1/3 of mag to destroy them, that they're so big so they can block 50% of heavy's body, and they have 2 stacks per gadget. as well not mentioning the fact that they can stack from multiple teammates
on light i think health per shot should be lowered so the max amount of hp you can restore per one mag would be ~200

[rare light]

embark you let me down with this ultimate pass,

in my country this ultimate pass costs 114 money,

My country is poland

This ultimate pass should be cost 49-52

[potent raft]

Hi embark i purchased the Captain Saucerian Set but didn’t received the season 1 legacy pass

[topaz harbor]

new bonus pages are filled with junk instead of actual good reskins, it feels like the ultimate battle pass just takes away from what we originally got and placed it behind a large paywall. Apex legends tried this system and nobody liked it. I also don't like the price increases for animation packs and certain skins, its very worrying to me to see the direction monetization is going in for this game

[exotic field]

I'm a Chinese player, and it took me a while to register an account. Because your nerf to the sledgehammer is unbearable, I must find a way to attack you. I noticed you have a newbie recruitment event. You know, if someone asks me, "How's that game called The Finals you play?" I'll answer: shit, don't play it. Because your balance adjustments are outrageous! Nerfing weapons makes the game difficult, and it's becoming less and less like the original The Finals, which will also reduce new players. Because although there are many weapons and props, they are difficult to use, so why play The Finals? If I don't say this sentence, I won't be able to sleep tonight: 操你妈，embark

[wise jolt]

so far, meta changes are awful for me. all rifles. and every team with unkillable dash lights

[eager swift]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/985524284648722453/1354883442386534572/IMG_5357.gif

[next anchor]

What gun they nerferd this update ?

[glass pendant]

PLEASE BUFF KS-23 UTILITY EVEN MORE!
Thanks for buffing wall damage its a step in the right direction but its still far from being viable with how bad its in actual combat performance especially with how much healing you now have to deal with and only 600 unreliable dmg in a mag with no way to boost it. If increasing dps is not an option why not try to empower its demolition utility to help it find its niche as a counter to player gadgets and abilities
-increase damage versus deployable gadgets like turrets, barricades, anchors from lockbolt (why it takes whole 2 shots is a mystery to me). If it can one shot healing emitter it will be thematic and create a viable niche in current new heal meta
-let it oneshot all barrels so you can do cool trickshots with midair explosions
-lets make it oneshot goo! Imagine how cool it will be to make ks-23 the savoir from goo nade spam. How cool it will be if you can throw goo granade yourself and with one shot create comfy goo bunker with shooting hole
-as a breaching shotgun it feels bad that it kinda sucks against shields. Why not add dmg modifier vs shields so ks-23 can be an option against them. Its thematic AND can help it find its niche (edited)

[past surge]

Keep sledge nerfed, this is fantastic

[hybrid spear]

Settings > Privacy > Player number (kind of an odd spot for it)

[wary flax]

Bring back this Jump Pad to the store. It didn’t have a timer in the shop.

[austere wing]

Stop giving in to players who don’t want to learn the game and just complain about stuff they die to. None of the guns that got nerfed this season needed to. Every update seems to have a balance change that is driven by you, the developer, trying to make people happy with the game. No game will ever be that balanced, so change what you think needs to be changed. Not what your crappy player base wants

[zealous mason]

Embark, can you kindly make melee fun to use please. Sincerely, musoq.

[marsh surge]

mouse scroll no longer works for reload in keybinds

[wispy sand]

Stop the stupid videos after a match, we wanna queue into next game and check our items, your videos are wasting our time we do not need ads. Get ads out of the game. If you que before exiting ad you're stuck

[analog sierra]

honestly really good patch, only thing id say is make the cooldown of the H+ infuser a bit longer, and the physical size of the heal ball a bit smaller, if an enemy is carrying it its really difficult to see their hitbox. was also hoping pike would at least have a firerate nerf or a dmg change from 50 --> 49.

also, when a new map releases, can we PLEASE prioritize that map for the start of the season. ive played 10+ matches without getting into any on the new map. why do we have all maps in rotation for world tour when the season teasers showed how proud the dev team is of the new map?

[sleek marsh]

Day 1 Player, gotta say this is the first season, which doesnt feel fresh.

Due to the map rotation adjustments u barely see the new map. Balance changes are whatever, QOL Changes too. No SoloQ inprovement AND no new weapons, I mean cmon we r talking about a shooter right here that lives and falls with weapons, how they feel and what playstyles they enable

the healing ball is a terrible gadget cuz of the playstile it supports(keep it with u all the time) pick it up throw it sucks but I gotta play it cuz of how strong it is

The controversy around the Ulti Pass, also brings a bad taste to everything. The Reason for this is, that the ult variants look so much better than the premium one, they r no match. This leaves a kind of scammy feeling cuz it's like "oh, make these skins look much worse so we can add them in the premium pass"

Overall, it feels like we only got a new, worse Battlepass, some new skins and that's it

[primal frost]

About the shogun dread set:
can you make the color of the metal just a tad bit darker? that way, it can match the metal color of the Moola knight helmet, and the wayfarer(?) helmet (the 20$ skin helmet)

[livid spruce]

• Add a way to get random numbers option for your contestant
• Vegas 2032 in WT too please. 🙏

[lost stirrup]

Sledge was way over nerfed. The only reason it was so effective before is that it is good at killing lights who don’t play with their teams, who happen to be the same group that complained about it constantly. Otherwise, it’s a very situational weapon that requires close coordination with teammates to be effective. Please undo the nerf, it just makes melee less fun and nearly unviable in most game modes.

[thick cipher]

Dear Embark,
I'm ready to pay 10€ for the Synthwave Trojan outfit alone with no other additional thing
But not 30€ for the ultimate bp
Thanks for considering this msg
Sincerely yours,
Me

[long arrow]

+1 embark just follow apex devs

[foggy nymph]

Sledge nerf is unwarranted. It. Light mains still won't be happy with this nerf because right click still instant-kills them. There was a huge uptick in Sledge usage at the end of the season in large part due to the heavy hitters ltm increasing usage rate across other modes as well, maybe also thanks to the plethora of new skins added at the time too. While I don't doubt the win rate for Sledge has increased by the end of season 6 I think overall usage had increased, skewing your statistics in your reasoning for the nerf. There was like one dude who was able to use Sledge to help his team win a private tournament that got all the "pros" and content creators whining about sledge's damage and viability, which then got echoed by their communities and began cropping up here as well. In reality heavies are sacrificing a lot of their effectiveness to excell in close range and this change makes that a lot less worthwhile.

You guys need to stop nerfing everything just because content creators think it's too strong. At this point I think every single weapon and gadget in the game has been nerfed since season 1 making the game feel slower and overall worse to play. With the increase in healing this season, Sledge will feel even worse to play with the new damage values.

Light's sword didn't need a nerf and the Sledge didn't need a nerf. Stop nerfing close-range weapons when people are too stupid to keep their distance. Their inability to play against melee weapons is not the game's balance fault, it's their own fault.

[fleet socket]

Recruit and rise should allow friends who haven't played in so long, at least everything costing 500VR might convince them

[cursive creek]

New Event: CNS Hack

In the CNS Hack, the gameplay will feel like your on drugs or hallucinating, from abilities such as the Winch Claw extending triple the times its reach or no reach at all, to placing down a turret that becomes a running chicken. Abilities and gadgets are sabotaged with sometimes working, sometimes not and sometimes just acting as a different gadget or something not seen in the game usually.

[slender pine]

Y’all really don’t want melee weapons to be viable, huh? Nerfed the one good one, 0 buffs to the melees that are useless. Cool. Love the direction. Just another typical FPS now

Also yawn for most of the other weapon balancing changes. It’s been 7 seasons. Mix it up.

[sterile wharf]

Revert the sledge nerf, please, as I saw multiple people counter me before (I used sledge) without the need of a nerf, therefore, the nerf is just unnecessary and it makes the sledge horrible to use imo (in my opinion).

[vital knot]

Riot is now considerably worse because of the healing ball spam - it easily ruins your breakpoints requiring more swings increasing your already dogshit TTK further and people now stack closer to each other when the only real strength was a big advantage in isolated 1v1's.

Every other issue from lingering melee hitboxes phasing through your shield, no real way to know your actual passive block angle without doing rigorous testing, enemies having up to 3 hard counters per person and people just turning around and pressing shift, still persists as it used to.

If nothing else, at least give it a minor damage buff and fix the goddamn melee phasing.

[mild ruin]

a lot of thank to artist who added this small stuff (cracks on walls when it gonna destory) amazing

[hallow birch]

They did not fix the matchmaking and individual performance compensation? SO what happens when you get a light dude with sniper who does 336 combat score as your team mate?

UNINSTALL EZZZZZ, WILL COME BACK IN SEASON 8

[rocky sable]

Look what they did to my boy (I’m a hammer main) embark I’m crushed

[grim furnace]

hello guys, i have a problem, i got banned but terms of ban is reached and i steel cant get in to the game. What can i do??

[real dawn]

Sledgehammer in the past was strong but certainly not broken. Mediums had 2 reliable counters with the first being jumppad, their second counter which in high ranks was somewhat common was sprinting away while occasionally flicking back for damage while staying out of range. Lights quickmelee winch was very strong admittedly but without it there would be in practicality nothing a sledgehammer could do against an ordinary light let alone a dash light. If we want to talk about something being suppressive some maps such as sandstorm Las Vegas gave sledgehammers no chance to fight back especially with triple medium as trying to move more than 20 m would result in pike and ak beaming.

[proper tiger]

As a NEW PLAYER
Thanks for reducing the price of weapons and accessories, so I can buy and spend time playing the game using the build I enjoy and also can experiment. Also thanks for melee nerfs as it gives some time to react and hopefully get out if reacted correctly. 👍♥️🫰

[uneven nexus]

Honestly I like the new season. As a heavy main, yes the nerfs on melee are harsh but being able to heal with heavy is so cool (also pretty balanced heals tbh). Also the new map is really cool, and while I’m a little sad about no new weapons, it does reassure me that they’re putting more time into thinking weapons through and giving us unique options.

See you in the Arena folks!

[vestal grail]

can the ALFA ACTA dummy also get the new dummy voice?

[worthy lava]

Remove kyoto

[zinc palm]

melee nerfs make me sad, justice for sledge and dagger backstabbing goo

[proper nacelle]

JUSTICE FOR SLEDGY

[unkempt geyser]

Sledge was only ever effective in tight spaces and a determent on maps with large open spaces like Kyoto & SysHorizion. Now its getting gutted because some youtubers decided they didn't like it? Because lights don't like being punished for being in a sledge heavy's face? Melee was one of the most fun parts of the finals and with the last several months of patches they are being fazed out more and more. I strongly urge the balance team to reconsider.

[faint saddle]

I LOVE THIS GAME SHADOWNERFING DAGGER WITHOUT FUCKING PATCHNOTES

MELEE VIABILITY MY ASS

GUTTED DAGGER
GUTTED SWORD
GUTTED SLEDGE

AND FUCKING SHADOW NERF DAGGER??????

I AM SORRY BUT WHOEVER IS DOING GAME BALANCING NEEDS GET FIRED CAUSE THIS GAME IS A PILE OF SHIT WITH A AR POKE HEALING META

MY FUCKING ASS WEAPON DIVERSITY WHEN YOU ARE BUFFING LH1 INTRODUCE HEALING AND FUCK EVERY MELEE WEAPON

[manic isle]

just nerf evasive dash already i cant stand these sweats

[sand kayak]

A dynamic HUD that only appears when there are relevant changes to a specific metric. The less HUD required, the more immersive and cinematic the experience.

[broken crest]

EMBARK???? WHY DONT SWORD BUFF????????????????????????????????????

[acoustic zealot]

Apoh begged to remove sword - you nerfed sword
Apoh begged to remove hammer - you nerfed hammer
Apoh begged to nerf knife - you killed it right away
Apoh begged to remove shotguns - you killed every single one of them
my suggestion: listen to actual players feedback, but not this bot who banned from 4 different accounts in your own discord and got banned 3 times on reddit for botting

[gritty owl]

• A sledge nerf is fine, but why gut it like this? atleast allow multi hits again then.
• Music top tier as always
• new map is amazing
• 30€ for ultimate season pass is kind of a lot? but i like that there are regular versions for all ultimate versions of skins

[quartz dirge]

sledge died for winch’s sins

[neat thunder]

"This has occurred at almost all skill tiers as well. This growth in effectiveness has also come with increased rates of negative sentiment from players on the receiving end of the Sledghammer, who feel they can never compete against it at close range"

it's a sledgehammer??? of course you're going to be at a disadvantage in close range????
that's not a valid argument to nerf it into the ground????

[signal cosmos]

Removing Quick Melee combos reduces the skill ceiling of the weapon imo.
Nerfing sledge is fine but I don't like nerfing it by removing qm combos

[fierce valve]

Please. MGL. GIVE IT 1 DAMAGE BOOST PLEASE.

[elder folio]

what did they do to it

also 93r bff feels nice

[flat pawn]

when im aiming at a sniper can the sniper glint be reduced/removed so i can see the player im aiming at??

[remote dagger]

I would love to use the astronaut skin I purchased a lot more but because the left sleeve isn’t fully sealed/is exposed kills it for me.

[rustic tusk]

If I am willing to get into melee range with any class in the game, my reward for wielding a melee weapon should more damage. That is the trade off. Gadgets and abilities exist that can help players fend off being stuck in close range encounters. It would better to give players more Gadgets that help with such encounters, so they can plan their builds against such close combat if thats what they expect to run into.

[wispy ivy]

we’re also keen to ensure melee is viable in THE FINALS
what the fuck is this then

every single melee weapon thats somewhat viable just gets nerfed into the ground while the ones that aren't just rot in the vault waiting for a crumb of attention

[austere spire]

Can someone explain how dagger got shadownerfed? I believe yall just everyone is complaining about it while not saying how and I’m a little confused

[rotund gust]

the aim assist on gadgets better be optional in settings otherwise you have just introduced major aim assist hinderance where you will have slowdown in crowded areas and have trouble aiming at what matters most. enemies.

Every major update the devs just seem more out of touch 😐

[ornate quail]

Is this actually the reason? That's insane. Melee weapons only have one range, immediate area range. Of course they have to excel, everyone else has a firearm. You're literally getting damaged from all angles already without a way of fighting back. I am deeply disappointed if this is the explanation, because it sounds so much like an manufactured excuse.

[viscid niche]

Ok embark, just tell us you’d rather work on Arc Raiders, instead of giving us half baked and lazy balance changes

[latent anvil]

Really disappointed with how legacy passes are set up. Yet another currency locked exclusively to match time with no other way to obtain it. 33 hours in match minimum to reach the equivalent of level 70 or so in S3 pass

Please make STs purchasable. They're for cosmetics.

[buoyant olive]

How do I know if I can unlock the mythic skins? I purchased the standard version of the battle pass, but it seems that every mythic skin is locked.

[river hearth]

the ultimate battlepass is actually something that black ops 6 did

why are you guys taking notes from call of duty?

[sand holly]

The pricing on the battle pass is overall strange
I dont want 20 lvls, but i want the elite rewards, and i'm forced to pay for the lvls, you should be able to buy the classic pass, then buy an "upgrade" to the better pass, WITHOUT the 20lvl that ads like 10 bucks to the price..., make it like every.other.pass in games with the normal and "pro" that is just an upgraded pricing.
The closest pass to your's is probably brawl stars (i think) it's the same in terms of "pro" pass and "elite pro" pass

But you can buy them separately without HAVING to buy a lvl boost

I want to farm, it's what make the pass fun ! I dont want to get the bonus as it will help too much...

am i alone on this take? i dont think i am

Also, what if i buy the "normal" then pay the elite? i will have wasted 1150 multibucks , i doubt you are refunding it, and if so, you should write it down somewhere

[loud stone]

no, i kinda agree, i don't want the boost either

[sleek forge]

This gotta be one of the best patch notes ever. Dev team is cooking. Great job guys 🖤 don’t listen to the complainers

[sterile canopy]

Agreed.

Though, has someone checked you don’t get a discount for buying premium first? For store bundles embark discount prices if you partially purchase them, so it would follow that they do so here as well.

[grand ferry]

The battle pass this season, without Ulti, is arguably better than any other season. Also getting scammed is not really true because if you pay 30 dollars in just plain multi bucks you get wayyyyy less than a battle pass.( now I understand I might have a different veiw on buying the battle pass because I see it as more of giving back to embark and suporting them) I just feel like it is a very genorous amount of items you get for ulti pass. Thats all

[odd snow]

So sledge gets evicerated and somehow double barrel continues to be way over tuned

[burnt ridge]

For the most part, they don’t change the number of ‘hits to kill’ in most cases, with only one or two match-ups being affected
this is a lie. way to just fucking lie, embark. it has increased the hits-to-kill by 1 against every class.

[elfin arch]

WHERE IS BANK IT!

[idle grove]

Typo on the ruby reward, Says S5 but should be S6 S5 is the ruby xp and tracking dart.

[foggy haven]

Congratz Embark, u just screwed up the game. 5 TDM out of 5 its FULL HEAVY composition... There is no fun anymore. no diversity, just lazy noskill people that need 400 HP to finish a duel. there is no point to play light anymore

[sonic arrow]

FIX SERVERS, HOW AM I BARREL STUFFING AND HES 1 HP AND I DIE COS MY SHOTS DONT REG

[tropic oar]

Why don't we get snow kyoto as a modifier?

[alpine glacier]

Add an endless mode to box battle

[west kernel]

Dear Embark, if you want to Nerf Cerb pellets, make the spread more tight for the love of god

[grand garden]

The blurb in the patchnotes ab the sledge made no sense to me, of course the melee weapon has to be the best weapon in melee range cuz thats all they have

[distant vine]

revert this. NOW!

also. can we make glasses and certain types of faceware diffrent. like i wanna have a mask that only covers my mouth. but i also wanna be able to have glasses.

[thorny zinc]

Therefore, were going to be able to throw hammer soon for the same dps as akm, it makes so much sense

[sick pier]

game seems to run a bit smoother than before, also season 7 is insane! thanks embark

[terse slate]

Healing Season is such a crap... sorry to say but the light healing is ridiculous..

[sacred siren]

It's super strange too, like wouldn't it be better to buy the ultimate upgrade later into the season since the higher levels take more xp to grind for?

[hallow epoch]

New season new map yet your still imposing Kyoto a map that runs like shit and that nobody likes

[wintry ermine]

need console only crossplay, cheaters are so obvious its not even funny

[placid parrot]

Make it so that you can convert VRs to STs for the legacy battle passes, it gives use to the currency during the season

[cyan crane]

The audio is a bit messed up, it plays it twice as in layers with a little delay

[vivid drum]

genuinely good idea

[hollow sage]

Every single player in my discord, about 7 of us, have installed split gate 2 instead. Most of us are planning on uninstalling the finals at this point. Fix melee, because it's the only real thing keeping your game unique

[crude vapor]

I feel like the finals should just remove all Melee weapons. They clearly don’t like them in the game since they always nerf them. The sword is awful, they ruined the sledge, and the dagger? If they are really that much of an issue where they are constantly getting nerfed, just remove them smh.

[tulip veldt]

Skill issue, I’m great with them and there fun quit crying

[gilded sparrow]

Ultimate BP robs me of all the love i would have had for the normal BP skins. Just straight upgrades of mostly mid skins. I cant enjoy the finals while knowing i only got the downgraded version of the skins because i cant justify 30€ for 1 season of cosmetics. with the next season being the same thing again. I loved your BP system before. but 30€ is an insult

[sterile panther]

why player number like 69, 88,18 can not be chosen.

[carmine orbit]

Healing infuser scares my own teammates lol

[cursive warren]

Thank you embark for doing the best skins of all seasons and ruining melee loadouts with your bullshit nerf, maybe for next patch just let us lay low in the ground so everyone with a gun can kill us right away when they make visual contact with us, thank you very much!

[tepid summit]

That sledge nerf is a yikes

[open tusk]

The battle pass is great but 30€ for a few skins just a bit better (the originals are already beautiful) is too damn expensive, for 20 maybe

[timid parrot]

Agreed I have got every battle pass until this one im in Canada and its 40$ hell nah

[slim wyvern]

Don't appear to be able to gift the ultimate battle pass, but you can gift the starter pack. Any particular reason why? I wanted to buy it for a friend who cannot afford it on their own.

[glad pike]

The credits changed this season :)

[clear swallow]

Same here. It's probably going to scare off the friends i've gotten into the game too. It was hard enough rounding up enough people to play during season 6 and this is likely going to scare most of them off for good.

[winged hawk]

I don't think this sledge nerf should've happened without buffs to compensate for it. I can get melee weapons are frustrating to fight against because it feels like you can't do anything while a melee player doesn't even need to aim at point blank against you, but if you truly want melee to remain viable, you can't nerf two melee weapons back-to-back without giving them something else to stay viable. It doesn't communicate your intentions well.

Melee weapons need to be reworked a bit to be more fun to fight against even at close range. Having massive and/or long-lasting hitboxes they can abuse feels terrible while opponents have to aim every single one of their shots up close. Maybe give more unique gimmicks for every melee weapon - maybe sledge can get a more limited form of knock back like it got in Heavy Hitters.

[quick hill]

please make the new map more common I have played on every map besides nozomi|citadel :(

[copper lark]

Sledge nerf is overboard, also confused by dagger nerf? i unno if there was an issue there im missing but I'm not sure these are the best approaches to take to balancing out melee.

I think heavy hitters shows how fun melee can be when implemented well for the game mode, if melee is unhealthy i think reworking them could be the best approach instead of gutting them

[limber seal]

Is there still no way to deny a revive from defib and regular revive?

[outer jetty]

Fix the god damn server lag holyyy
Pleaseeeee ;-;

[rustic tinsel]

Do you even know what you mean by “increased usage”? It means everything else that was actually usable has been nerfed. It's not being used because it’s OP.
Stop fxxking nerf. You’re patching the game straight into the ground.

Even Reddit, a place that usually doesn't understand anything about game balance, is calling out the recent Sledge nerf.
That alone should be enough to tell you how terrible this patch was.

The only useful thing about the Sledge nerf is that it finally helped most people with basic human reasoning realize how absurd the Sword damage nerf was.
Anyone who has tried using the Hammer after this patch knows it's completely trash now.
And that's exactly what happened to the Sword.
Both have become unplayable,trash.

I’ve been saying this the whole time. Nerfing melee damage is the same as saying “don’t use it.”
Instead of adding new weapons, you’ve basically removed two from the game.
Sword and hammer are melee weapon. It requires some form of high dmg output in order to compete with other weapons in close range.

I just want to clarify, I am not saying any of the weapons needs nerf. Others do what they are intended to do.
I just want MELEE weapon to actually be USABLE.
Fix the damage. Im tired of weapons getting nerfed simply because people dislike it(cause skill issue).

Yours literlly say,"we’re going to continue to monitor the Sword and explore some alternative changes that might allow us to nudge the lunge damage back up". And yet, there’s been zero follow-up. No balancing, no communication, nothing.
So the sword gets ignored for an entire season, and now you're targeting the heavy build's hammer instead?

Frankly, it’s getting harder and harder to believe anything written in the developer notes. At this point, it feels like empty PR talk meant to placate players without any real intention of following through.

If you really care about balance and transparency, then start showing us the actual weapon, body type, and gadget usage stats.

[copper isle]

deep shuffle for outfits

[hazy skiff]

No sword buff, more melees being overnerfed, dagger nerf was completely unnecessary and the sledge nerf hurts really bad, melees are extremely fun in this game and the direction towards their balance has been disappointing to say the least

[jade cloak]

Normal Battlepass is 9.99€
1000 MB is 9.99€
Ultimate is 29.99€

So you wanna tell me that a slightly better variant of a few skins is worth of 10€? I thought battlepasses are suppose to have good value, not be scams

@rare sentinel The 20 tiers jump is worthless. Its not that hard to complete their passes, even without any xp boost

Embark: Starts the enshittification by adding more and more expesive things to the game
Respond: If you dont want it, dont buy it. So the ones that want to buy it buy it anyway and everything becomes even more expensive.

The core problem isnt the price of that one battlepass, but that its the start of more and more expensive stuff in the game.

[rare sentinel]

you also get 20 tier jumps (which is 20 bucks with the normal pass), 10 extra items and a 25% match xp boost. the price is justified

@jade cloak then dont buy it idk what tell you man. I will be copping because the 10 extra items itself is worth 10 bucks

[wet herald]

Add back the ability to block enemies from stealing with goo but remove being able to goo shield teammates while stealing. It's absurdly broken

[hybrid raft]

i do agree that the ultimate bp feels more predatory but it actually is fair in regards of rewards per pricing

[crisp heart]

i would buy the new pass if it was cheaper and didn't include 20 level skips. i dont need or want to pay for something im going to unlock either way. make it cheaper and without the 20 lvls

[surreal meadow]

hammer nerfs, it is WORSE is CLOSE range than SHOTGUNS. why would anyone use them now? def no tthe winch claws fault

you get out DPS'd by AK/FCAR & Lewis at VS hammer; make it make sense why melee is worse in close quarters than automatics and shotguns - make it make sense

[spare rapids]

define what makes it "fair"

[high wing]

SEASON 7: MAJOR DISAPPOINTMENT

Core experience is flawed. The new €30 Battle Pass tier proves player experience is secondary to monetization.

Still Missing Basic Features:

No In-Game Profiles (standard in FPS).
No Match History (essential online).
No Personal Stats (classes, weapons, specs, gadgets).
No Community Stats (trends, data).
No Ping Indicator (basic necessity).
No Direct DMs (limits social).
Poor Friend Status (game time, round).
No Clear Numerical Weapon Stats.
No Ranked Solo Queue.

Critical Unresolved Issues:

Unfixed Netcode (persistent issues).
Unreliable Hit Reg (frustrating).
Bad Respawn System (worsening, high priority).
Broken Audio (bugs, impacts awareness).
Poor/Shallow Balance (stale, no depth).
Horrible Matchmaking (worst MMR, unbalanced teams).
Spectating Hackers (aim/wallhacks, poor anti-cheat).

Monetization & Priorities:

No Local EU Shop Pricing (ongoing issue).
Greedy €30 BP Tier: Shows monetization over core gameplay while issues persist.

[spring tide]

fucking hate this game

[balmy sandal]

What happened to the animation pack for the SA1216 it just went up and disappeared for me?

[lunar timber]

The game seriously needs a new game mode

[past island]

Imo about the ultimate pass because I love this company and I hate to see it going down this path. Change ultimate pass to $15 or $16 max. Remove the 20+ levels, Remove the 1000+ Multibucks, If I wanted to buy multibucks or levels I would do that separately do not make it forced behind a fat $30 paywall and call it justified, I want the ultimate skins not the multibucks or the levels.

[upbeat nymph]

It doesn't matter if its a new season this game is ruined in matchmaking 9/10 teamates is a light who is incapable of getting a kill or staying alive. 1/10 teamates is a turret medium who is only good for doing a kamikaze defibrillator on your body surrounded by 4 enemies.

[barren coral]

1 show token per match/playtime feels weird make it 2-3 at least

[tranquil mantle]

B A N K I T

[fierce trail]

whats going on with the high ping lobbies?

[dreamy tusk]

is CNS loyalty supposed to have 2 identical rewards????

[coarse sapphire]

This message is from the user: @foggy haven

Light : should be considered as ADC : full damages close quarter (excepted for SNIPER) and speed but low life
Medium : as a versatile, breach, Range damage, mobility, support
Heavy : support, destruction, low damages.

What happen is that for example :

heavy (350hp) got Dual 50. that 4 shot a Light
Light (150) got a M11 that 30 shot a Heavy

Light is the one who need to self heal.
Not the class that already has 3 shields, rocket launcher, OneShot hammer

You don't see it yet, but it's just already becoming Heavy Hitter in every TDM or quickcash games. and new update has been released few hours ago.

Don't make me mistaken, I enjoy that skill rewarding light, being one shot and adrenaline when you are getting runned at.
it's just that you make game easier for newcomers, but even more boring and frustrating to play against veterans that just wanna play toxic as hell,

An idea would be to give light heal grenades with same mechanic as heal canister but smaller (1 meter) x2 +50 when full used instead of pistol. Light ain't made to be support, they already fight every second to not get eliminated, give them at least something they can use for themselves as for the HEAVY

there is no punishment against an heavy. and they know about it.
With all the love i have for your game

[slow fog]

Based sledge nerf fuck meleebabys let their tears flow

[cedar rapids]

BRO what is that comparison even, do you know what rate of fire is

[finite galleon]

Isn't this you going negative with Winch + pre-nerf Sledge in World Tour?

[outer niche]

Revert sword nerf

[alpine mauve]

Revert hammer nerf

[high sinew]

Light heals itself in 6 seconds, and they have multiple ways to get out of combat, they do not need self healing

[mortal notch]

no sword buff after it was promised when you gutted is is crazy

[muted plaza]

lmfaoo💀

[delicate dirge]

REVERT HAMMER NERF. STOP NERFING MELEE'S SWORD WAS THE ONLY ONE THAT NEEDED IT AND YOU KILLED THE WEAPON.

STOP LISTENING TO @copper lark STOP LISTENING TO @copper lark

[marble mango]

I have a clip of my friend carrying the vault against cheaters till the last 15 seconds, the 3rd guy and me being dead, and he killed two cheaters that were on the vault taking it, only to be killed by 2, yes 2 hits of Alien invasion fireballs. We consequently lost.

[sonic salmon]

IMO the ultimate pass is good for the price, your getting 20 lvl skips, a few over the wall skins that took time to make, and 2k in game currency. so $30 for all that pretty good deal.

for 20 levels is 3k multibucks if you were to buy them

for the skins for the player it ranges to 850 to 2400 multibucks(looking at my store as of now) so we will use the top number 2400

weapon skins very with groups of weapons but for say we going with the golden hour set one thing is 800 we will use that.

shoulder pets? i guess i see one for 950

for 2400 multibucks with a 20% bonus is $20

you get 10 skins in the ultimate battle pass
$30 bucks you cant beat it its a deal

also it gives you 2k multibucks with the $30 pass

[bold surge]

Buff all hit scan guns toooo the MOOOON!

[oak kernel]

I can already tell this season is just going to be another season of barely anything 🥲 . 90 days of the same game basically. New cosmetics are nice, but I would've liked to get more content than just a map and 3 gadgets.

The 3 gadgets and new map are cool, but I think they'll get old pretty fast.

[rain acorn]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1345593556361805875/1382739859172495390/IMG_0688.jpg?ex=684c4058&is=684aeed8&hm=bd86036309f2b534a25fb0f62e5714e24db51e980acd53c78ccccd0e50e0e242&

[tame lance]

nerfing sledge because it's a top three weapon
doesn't nerf the other two top three weapons

absolutely devastating nerf. such a hard playstyle to manage with the hard gun meta. such a slow weapon with no mobility and this is the nail in the coffin guys. i'll make sure the gravestone looks nice though when i bury it

[lofty meteor]

Nice work Embart! The new map looks incredible :3

[lusty monolith]

From Hype to Heartbreak – Please Reconsider the Sledgehammer Nerf
I was beyond excited for today’s new update — I’ve been counting the days.
But what started as pure hype quickly turned into deep frustration.

I’ve been in love with THE FINALS since Season 1. It’s fast, fun, chaotic in the best way — a game I truly looked forward to playing every day. But this update, and more specifically the nerf to the sledgehammer, has completely killed that excitement.

The heavy build already struggles when caught in open areas and under fire. The sledgehammer was his high-risk, high-reward trump card — and now that’s been gutted. You’ve taken the one thing that made close-quarters Heavy play feel rewarding and just tossed it aside.

It’s not about being overpowered — it’s about having a fighting chance in your own role. And right now, that chance is gone.

I genuinely hope the team reconsiders this change. From someone who absolutely loved this game: please don’t let this be the update that ruins what made THE FINALS special

[tawdry mesa]

Regarding deep shuffle , please let us select the skins to shuffle

[torpid kindle]

SLEDGE DIED FOR WINCH'S SINS JUST LIKE SWORD DIED FOR DASH'S SINS

[marsh kettle]

guys I always get 30fps and crash in NOZOMI/Citadel, whereas all other maps its 70 to 80 fps always

[keen lily]

bought every battlepass during every season and all I get in return are 5 garbage buyable items, thanks Embark lol

[sonic arrow]

Thank you for killing off the last good melee weapon, s7 has to be the BIGGEST fumble in finals history

[hearty hatch]

Not sure I need to elaborate on this but:

Melee, overall, has officially lost it's general viability in THE FINALS.

Please rectify this issue. Thanks

[sly aurora]

^

[frozen tree]

Ah the irony

[fallen mirage]

RETURN NORMAL DAMAGE TO THE HAMMER!!! RETURN THE NORMAL DAMAGE TO THE HAMMER!!!
the lightsabers have a weapon that kills the Lightsabers with one shot, not in the head. Why did they use the hammer?
RETURN NORMAL DAMAGE TO THE HAMMER!!!
WHAT HAPPENS NEXT? WILL HEAVY BE ABLE TO BREAK THE WALL WITH A STRONG BLOW? WILL YOU NEED TO SPEND 2 CLIPS OF ANY WEAPON TO KILL LIGHT?
STOP LISTENING TO THE WHINERS AND BRING BACK THE NORMAL DAMAGE!!!

[woven dagger]

lol

[cursive sinew]

Wow... they HAD TO kick into the already dead Cerberus didnt they?

[sand gate]

Hey are any of the CMs on?

[latent niche]

this is genuinely shocking, I am absolutely DISGUTED EMBARK!? are you trying to ruin your reputation? Were you paid off by big gaming or did the greed just overwhelm you? Be better. I know you can.

[unreal blaze]

Embark,

What is your going on in your brain right now? Why were the below toxic gadget/weapons not addressed?

• Cloak Spec
• Cloak Bomb
• Defib
• CL-40

Are they all meta? No, but they are extremely toxic to the point that even people who don't play video games are questioning the reason why they they exist other than to be toxic.

Seriously, you guys are at risk of getting demonetized by bipartisan support in the U.S., led by senator Josh Hawley, and two steam employees for intentionally targeting children with your toxic balancing, why the hell would you not at least try to dial back these toxic gadgets/guns that were depicted in their presentation to concerned parents? I get that it was only a single slide out of 20 (3 slide cards total regarding Embark/Finals), but you should take it seriously, especially after the half-assed apology for your toxic behavior over the Arc Raiders count down timer.

[visual wave]

I am so grateful for Embark and The Finals

…didn’t the hosts say that Hydra-Q(?) was gonna be a sponsor this season tho?
( )

[tall venture]

I have been experiencing some issues regarding crashing out of the game. It's been happening after the update. I don't know why it happens, as it happens at different intervals and times.

[unreal fossil]

If you mean player card backgrounds, I suppose one is animated when the other isn't, that was already the case with previous sponsor rewards.

--

Regarding the new Ultimate BP. I think the price is fair for what you get. Personally the only selling point was skin variants, but after checking them I figured they weren't valuable enough for me to pay the extra cash, as I'd be happy with their base versions. So I bought the base BP.

I see nothing to really cry, complain or throw tantrums about. They added an option on top of the existing ones.

Base BPs have always been 1150 MB which is equal to 10€. Paying that amount grants you access to every single BP from here on out, assuming you don't spend the BP MB on anything else. Someone doing exactly that would have 7 seasons worth of content by now, all for 10€.

But somehow, "EmBaRk iS gReEdY"... SMH.

I would have understood if there had been a price hike to the base BP...

[tropic egret]

Sponsor end reward of a tier should be 3 weapons, 1 for each class, I say this as a medium main. I think it's unfair that s4 was the last time heavy got a skin, Total sponsor skins are now 3 medium, 2 light, 1 heavy. If you are working on your fans as a light/heavy main it makes no sense that the final reward is a medium skin. everyone should be included

[untold escarp]

PLEASE EMBARK 😦

[normal oasis]

I just wish you could buy it with 30$ worth of multibucks not just 30$ cash

[hallow canopy]

Make a feature so we can favourite our skins, the shuffle feature chooses from the skins we favourited instead of random ones we own.

Also revert the Cerberus nerf, instead buff the model again, especially since there is so much healing now, we should nerf less and buff things that are underwhelming to make it balanced

Edit: actually nerf Cerberus more, I don’t even play it

[solid mango]

I agree with this 👍

[pulsar snow]

I just wish there was a cheaper version of the ultimate BP that didn't advance 20 levels as I personally like to play and unlock each level

[astral viper]

Embark please quit nerfing medium/heavy weapons and buffing lights.

I quit playing anything outside of Quick Cash because every match devolves into a light spam fuckfest.

[restive crescent]

Create a new item type called "exclusive" so we can actually call out whats exclusive or not in this game

[lavish sable]

BEST SOUNDTRACCCKKKKK!!!!!

[short inlet]

does anyone know if the Ultimate Rewards are exclusive or are they returning like every other BP item in the future

[frosty apex]

Yeah dont know what they were thinking with the ultimate battlepass... might not even play this season bc of it... Hope arcraiders isnt going to be like this ... what a way to pull a rug from from underneath the community's feet

[mighty obsidian]

Is anybody else getting error code TFLA0013 when they try and login on Xbox? I’ve tried everything and it used to work before the new season came out.

[lapis pelican]

Revert goo gun nerf

[versed dagger]

so can we add go mines now that goo is nerfed?

[quick coyote]

I don't think I need to add any more context you'll figure it out (this is still game feedback don't be mistaken lmfao)

[safe lark]

ARE IN GAME VOICELINES DIFFERENT???

[oblique spindle]

solo queue is so cooked why am I facing a 3 stack ruby teams in WT

[thorny apex]

just buff sword and sledge 5 dmg, as much as being "one hit" as a light sucks it is impossible to kill a light without "one-hitting" them

[sterile patrol]

As a heavy main I really gutted about the sledgehammer nerf! I just read the patch notes and I don't think I will update the game!

Devs: stop listening to slimy streamers like appoh, he is light main and he wants everything nerfed to benefit his play style... Don't make Activision's mistake by letting streamers decide what fun is!!!

[cobalt dagger]

The sledge nerf was absolutely not the play. I get that for some players melee can be frustrating to play against, but Hammer is only powerful really in certain situations and against inexperienced players.

It's not that hammer itself was the issue, it's the cash out locations. Hammer excels in close quarters environments and most of the cash out stations are inside buildings or in tight spaces. Players realized that the best strat is to force close range engagements and player weapons with strong close quarters damage. Hammer is terrible if it gets caught in the open. But cash out locations make Hammer a really viable pick.

Shotguns are some of the strongest weapons in the game too. It's why the SA1216, Despite it's most recent changes, is still a top pick for heavy. The weapon isn't the problem, it's the locations that cause one type of strategy to be more effective than the rest.

Also, if you're going to try and change up the meta, why nerf just one weapon and leave the other two really powerful weapons alone??

[latent reef]

they butchered my hammer im so sad

[obsidian timber]

I think you have legitimately ruined this game giving every class healing. This is an awful update to this game

[cosmic ether]

I think it's a bit disingenuous to nerf something that's always required a considerable amount of skill to play well and be able synergize with a team. Any half decent sledge main will tell you that playing sledge well enough takes time.

[lilac drift]

for the future pls give us a 24/7 ltm playlist for the new map during the first week of a season, i am yet to get a match on it after 6 games

[smoky sluice]

turning a great game into only a money printer in 7 seasons is crazy

[west light]

thanks for the M60 skin in the battle pass

[brave copper]

The new BP tier gives too much advancement. (Skip 20 levels and the XP bonus)

Kind of wish there was a version that contains more multibucks rather than skipping levels. Leveling up the BP is a seasonal goal, something to trigger that success feeling. I usually finish the pass weeks early, and with those bonuses it wont even last half the season.

[upbeat creek]

#BRINGBACKMYHAMMER

[obtuse nymph]

Arc Raiders will be nothing like this because it is a premium game. Since you have to “pay to play”. This means that in game things will all be free if you put in the time. There might still be some micro-transactions but for the most part, that will not be a thing. It also is not like the Finals because there is no time limit on the battle pass. You have all the time you want. And yes, the battle pass is free. Now the ultimate battle pass for the Finals… 😛 OF COURSE I BOUGHT IT! I love the game too much, and the extra 25% match co bonus is amazing, the amazing skins and everything. Not to mention the BONUS 1000 Multibucks. While I do not encourage the game to get more greedy, I like it. The only thing that would make it better is if I could pay Multibucks for the Ultimate version. Not straight up $30. I used the extra 1000 to buy the season one battle pass. That is another controversial topic. Now, I am not OG in any way (started season 5) but I have been playing hardcore since then. These limited time items that OG players had are now available to EVERYBODY. I like it but, no longer special.

[proud loom]

what where you thinking? there was no reason to nerf the sledge.

[plucky sage]

I feel like medium lost the one thing that made it unique as a class, now every class has healing which is fine but heal beam needs a slight buff

[coarse condor]

melee users being nerfed and ignored once again 🙄

sledgehammer nerfed, dagger nerfed, no sword rebuff, no heavy animation queues... and the patch notes said melee was supposed to be viable...

i cant take it anymore 😭

[unreal zodiac]

Fix melee lunges PLEASE

[wooden atlas]

hammer top 3 weapon… HELL NO IT WASN’T. Well, it is if you stay next to one.

[deep summit]

Nerf light heal smg
nerf flash bangs some more

[magic stratus]

If you're going to have every map in world tour, please at least have a week or two with priority new map queuing.

[golden igloo]

The nerf to the cerberus was not needed, why do you have to nerf the medium shotguns so hard to now they won't even be used

[quaint portal]

Melee is not viable currently and Embark is taking every step to make it even less viable with each balance patch. I thought this game was supposed to be different to other shooters, but it is slowly becoming a battlefield clone with a few gimmick gadgets and abilities. Sad to see.
Embark, stop taking advice from sweaty, cringe streamers that only play with guns, and focus on the aspect that make you game unique and fun.

[untold coral]

I thought this was main chat sorry

[snow steppe]

For god's sake buff the sword

[hasty citrus]

Embark nerfing melee weapons for being good at close range. Why

[versed hazel]

cool update

[lapis elbow]

the idea of the Ultimate Battlepass is cool, but 30 dollars is kinda pricy for just some recolored skins. I can't see myself buying it when there is only one skin i want from it and there is an equally drippy skin in the shop for $20, which btw gives me enough Multibucks to buy this season's BP and another Legacy BP. The idea is great, i love supporting the game but the appeal isnt there

[brave plover]

giving heavy a heal gadget is the biggest joke of all time

[barren jasper]

I completely support the idea of having some seasons where new weapons aren't added. That being said, what we got instead was much worse this time around. Healing is very rarely fun to play against, and now with all 3 classes having access to it, lobbies are even less fun to play in when you have stacked teams of 1 class.

[young drum]

@robust mulch , @hearty bough , @exotic anvil
Yall replied to my post about this being an fps. There’s nothing wrong with melee being in the game. Yall can’t comprehend that these are balance changes that are being done. Having your gimmick weapons be stronger/more viable than your AR’s makes the game look bad. Yall are lucky it takes 4 hours to reply . Just dense

[tacit apex]

still losing ranking and RS because mates leave, how balanced.

[spice stag]

season 7 has introduced a very annoying bug with dagger, before season 7 you could slide while charging the right click but now that season 7 dropped its extremely inconsistent whether or not you can actually slide or not while charging the right click.

[white anchor]

The grapple hook keeps pulling u in a wall unless u cancel it but it would be better if u could stick to walls for a few seconds and u can aim and shoot but it's for a limited time to avoid camping,maybe even a wall jump from the wall u grappling to.

🔥flamethrower should set non object areas on fire (setting grass on fire isn't helpful) but u have to keep firing at that area for a long tim using 8ammo ,it's more of a defensive option as u r busy firing areas rather then enemies,also the flame range should increase the more u continuously keep firing.🔥

The 93r time between burst is weird and not fun to use,make it so there isn't a gap or less time gap between burst and u can slightly nerf damage since u r increasing fire rate but the damage fall out is longer so there is a balance since due to recoil u can't spam it long/medium range.

V9s spam tapping disrupts normal aim movement and has zero reason to pick over xp and M11 so to make it better it could have almost perfect close medium range hipfire accuracy even while moving then slightly reduced fire rate to make it count and it would be a unique niche cause at least it's accurate while moving where most weapon r not.The spam tapping v9s is unnatural and may have good stats on paper but almost no one in the lobby uses.

Ks23 needs a headshot buff 1.2x and projectile speed.

Breach charge should break smaller holes in walls so lights can minimise exposure that large destructon has right now, because u have 3 charges u can still make bigger holes.It should still stack damage.

[manic sleet]

is anyone elses game crashing for no reason mid game???? please help!!!!

[tacit whale]

Nerfing melee makes no sense. I struggle to play against it but part of the fun is finding a way to counter it. Nerfing it because fringe players are getting wrecked too much is not the way to go. You said that you wanted to have bots in the game at some point, let the weaklings play that mode instead and nerf everything except for the medium. That way they can stay over there while the rest of us can continue having fun.

[hazy adder]

same here, always the Unreal Engine Crash report. Idk why but i fixed it by ending the runtime.ntdll task right when starting the game

[supple mortar]

Cool so I'm just not playing this season.
You consistently ignore feedback about melee being unviable and make it worse every update. You say ' we are looking into the viability of melee weapons, and are aware they are weak!' but don't do shit to fix the problem.
You can keep your season 7.

[idle frigate]

Look at things into perspective.
POV of a CASUAL: Melee is to strong
POV of a GOD: Melee is easy to kill/avoid

Embark created this problem by trying to cater to CASUAL players AND COMPETETIVE players.
This will never work as almost all melee is to strong for casual players because they Dont have the same positioning and aim tracking that A god has.

Conclusion = Melee is strong in low ranks, but very bad in high ranks.

[slow python]

Bring back my hammer!

[pale bronze]

I don't ask for much, just gotta fix the new goo exploit where people can protect their stealing team mates with goo gun, making them invincible

[soft glacier]

YO! What the hell is the point of the heavy class at ALL now?? It's been constantly nerfed. Seriously???

[wheat wing]

Will previous holiday items ever return or make it into the store? I'd pay for the white rabbit ears/headband and the bunny sticker from March 2024. lol

[spark shard]

I have to say that the new gadgets, besides being incredibly well-designed in my opinion, have achieved something that I believe you Embark knew what you were doing and were very, very, very clever about... somehow, these gadgets force teams to play more together, which is changing the strategies...

Maybe it's premature... but as I said, I think you Embark knew what you wanted to achieve with these new gadgets... creating strategies that encourage playing more together and as a team... I think it opens the door to new strategies... I'm not saying it's going to be a new CSGO or Valorant... but you are moving in the direction of forcing more team play... this also aligns with the Esports and Major scene... I think you Embark have been very clever with these gadgets and the impact I believe they will have...

Thank you!

[normal flax]

raaah I love this season arf arf arf AHHHH + no sympathy for melee users >:)

[slow crescent]

For the love of god, where 69 play number?

[misty rock]

V9S is always a better pick than m11 bc v9s has the best cb1 skin.

[tardy cloud]

I got a no reg(aka being behind someone and backstabbing and it reregistering it as not a backstab) against a practice dummy(1st image). Additionally, because the angle on dagger is much lower, dashstabs have become exponentially harder.

The second image shows(albeit not the best example as when I dashed the dummy was looking at more of the side of me so as to that when I dashed it wasn't a perfect angle directly behind where they were aiming) me failing a dashstab due to the fact the the dummy(or any player) can slightly turn their camera at the right time negate the backstab.

My proposal is a 170 degrees backstab angle. Do this angle buff and you can remove the extra dmg you gave the dagger a "buff"(you tried to make the dagger better at something it's not meant to do). Additionally, I(and many other dagger players) would like the introduction of being able to just tap the secondary fire(the backstab button) and have it go off automatically while stile being able to sprint at full speed(like how it used to be before you changed it), similar to the throwing knives.

Thank you for your time and consideration(and please un-nerf sledge, it didn't need that nerf 😭 )!

[ashen pine]

If that one ss of a ball is a LTM for a sports type of mode istg this game will be the best game to ever existed

[near silo]

Nerfed goo-gun so it can't stop cashouts? How was this overpowered exactly? But now you can just force steals by covering a teammate to make them invincible, and thats not overpowered? Nerf goo-gun, nerf sledge, nerf dagger, are you guys just nerfing anything thats different, anything thats fun?

[signal basin]

Update after patch S7 :

I buy the ultimate BP Embark. But to be honest from my POV, the price is to much high and should be able to buy IG not by bundle.
Looks like your hire someone in charge from Respawn. I did it this time. Not sure I will do it every seasons.

🎲 For the game 🎲

• FOR THE LOVE OF ANYONE. IMPROVE YOUR NETCODE ! 50% of my dash behind cover make me die anyway because your game can't register itself !
• Why in WT, lose in final round against a tri-stack squad when I'm playing solo ?
• We shouldn't win only 6 points in WT when you finished 4th.
• Add "step" in the reload animation so when you climb on something during a reload, it's not completly reset.
• Add a report option " Sabotage " in the report section in game please.
• Let us choose our sight weapons at the beginning of a game
• Delete low gravity event. It's not fun AT ALL
• Random skin and charm list for weapons/gadgets
• We shouldn't lost point in ranked when a team mate leave the squad and didn't play during the round
• Let us invite friends or join them in group even if we are not the group leader
• Add the possibility to look at the profil/card of friends and recent players.
• **Give us the possibility to customize rules in private match. Like "only M and Dual Blade", "only Light and SR84", "only marksman", "No heal, Light only and grenade only". You can imagine all you want and put it in private match for streamer and their community to make the game more fun **
• Add all the random or Unreal crash to all of this.

**⚖️ For balance ⚖️ **

• Heavy heal ? For all the squad ? Without limit in time or HP ? For a class with shield, barrricade and 350 HP ? Embark... please.
• Revert your XP-54 nerf fast !
• Nulifier is just useless right now. Offer invincibility to the ennemy ? Really ?
  Rework : When you get it by the "Taser" your recoil is increased but you can still move as you want and your take 5 dmg/sec by the electrycity. Can hit multiple target like the lock bolt.
• REVERT CL40 BUFF. Medium spam this without dying and destroying the fun in your game
• You shouldn't be able to right clic sword + dash
• CB01-Repeater is just stupidly OP. Nerf the damage
• Rework Vanish Bomb and make it start regen instant. It will increase survability for the Light and it can be use for your teammates too !
• Nerf Turret range.
• Nerf proximity sensor range
• Reduce the radius of the reflect of the Dual Blade or let us shoot in the feet or something else to let us counter DB when you got an AR
• Nerf the range of the KS shotgun. You can put 100 dmg at 20m. Nevermind, you just buff it even more
• Nerf PIKE to 48 instead of 50 dmg.
• Flamethrower and hook should NOT get you through walls or other.
• Flamethrower is bugged too, thanks to your servers, you can hit people without being in the range + you can take more damage from burning than the player itself. Nonsense
• Revive and Objectives score should add additional points in ranked
• Rework defib: Reduce the cooldown reset to 5s and give 100HP instead of 50% of your HP. It will force Medium to revive more safety !
• Rework Sonar : Scan 5 times instead of 3 but if you don't move it can't scan you
• Winch and lockbolt shouldn't do damage.

Oh and ping me as much as you want with all your salt. You can say anything you want. You will never say anything much accurate than the META.
And the META is full of Medium and Heavy. Not Light. That's fact.

I will always post this now and add some changes time to time.

[honest elk]

the OG battle pass s1 : can we get some special stuff for get the originally s1 battle pass ( other than a player card that everyone don't care ) ?

[tranquil garden]

This hammer nerf if idiotic, these assault rifles prevent you from even getting close to them with the hammer but yet they still sit unnerfed,

nerf the XP, AK, Fcar, and Famas for Christs sake they are so anti fun

[sour oak]

Yo 30 bucks for the ultimate?, idk if that was the move but I get it. y’all are a small studio and this was your biggest season, and then arc raiders is still in development too, but I wish I could have spend my coins I’ve been saving and paying for without having to spend another 40$ etc but either way I ain’t mad just a little concerned for the future

[soft spear]

Why can’t I buy the ultimate with multibucks, seems stupid to try and milk people for even more money…. Edit just bought the normal pass and the ultimate is still £25

[rare iris]

Revert hammer nerf. It's now impossible to kill mosquitoes. Instead of killing annoying fuck in 1s i need to CHASE him whick is not possible on heavy

[severe linden]

Holy lag, it’s not a new seasons with out incredible server instability

[somber stag]

ultimate battle pass is stupid this the finals not call of duty get rid of it

[worn burrow]

The light heal gadget needs a sound for when youre being healed by it
its really hard to tell from the sound if ur L is healing you or ur teammate

[hardy bison]

so mad how s5 battle pass don't open till s8 bruh

[pale quest]

Gadget idea: Imposcar

throw nade to spawn decoy it does not shoot just walks around distracting enemies

[steep flax]

Logged in to play today and my entire account is wiped
no purchases no progression nothing lol

[mild osprey]

Played a bit to see my thoughts further, healing ball honestly feels a bit too powerful. I feel tining it down a bit would be good, and putting more limits would be good. I understand I have to learn to adapt to it but boy oh boy it drives me insane, it's caused my team to be wiped way more than it should at times. Maybe putting a minute long cool down on it would be good, it seriously can handicap a team real fast, obviously at that point I understand it's skill to have it lead to it, but it legit has happened to me more than one now and it's sort of ruined the fun.

[scenic elm]

Ping is too high, unplayable

[rough storm]

bro this game basically became bombing simulator with all these noob tubers. Nerf the goddamn CL already the amount of bombing is literally pulling all skill out of the game

[gloomy talon]

Hi Embark! DAY 13 of asking if its possible to add an OB, S1, S2 and S3 Diamond Background and Emblem?

I want this to be considered by the dev team as i believe it was stated they will be bringing the S3 ruby rewards to the ones who achieved that rank, and i am asking if it would be possible for diamond as well as the previous seasons.

[tame vessel]

Here is a list of weapons that need to be buffed but not make them meta in the next balance patch

Spear: increase the basic attack damage combo to 70, 80, 95 and increase the spin attack damage to either 120 or 130

KS-23: increase the projectile speed to 500m/s and either add a 1.2x headshot multiplier or decrease the fire rate to 73 RPM and increase the player damage to 120

Riot shield: increase the swing speed by a little and make it so we can bash people while blocking if they get too close and the bash will do no damage but will knock them back a bit but not too far maybe like 5 meters and increase the movement speed when blocking

R.357:Increase the bodyshot damage to 75 and decrease the headshot multiplier to 1.9 therefore making it 75 × 1.9=142.5 and also decrease the fire rate by a little bit maybe from 140 to 130

Dual blades: add a parry mechanic so it can parry secondary attacks of other melee weapons like the sledgehammers overhead charge but it can't parry the primary attacks of other melee weapons and increase the first swing damage from 50 to 55 and increase the second swing damage from 60 to 65 and lastly increase the final attack damage from 65 to 75 and make it so the final attack can be done faster and increase the movement speed when deflecting by just a little bit

AKM: increase magazine capacity to 34, 35 or 36, the choice is yours on what number you choose

ARN-220: increase the fire rate to 750 rpm, decrease the duration of the tactical reload animation from 2.45s to 2.30s, decrease the duration of the full reload animation from 2.80s to 2.60s

Smoke Grenade: decrease the ammo from 3 to 2, and decrease the cooldown from 50s to 20s

please, please Embark these weapons and gadget need some love
Hopefully you guys see this, these emojis will highlight the message so you can see them 🥇:🤠🤯😵:⚽️:grinning:😆🙃😇🫠

[small prawn]

Yet again nerfing more medium weapons. Making medium as boring as possible and even less appetizing to play, whilst buffing light weapons again. I swear medium gets a good weapon and then it gets nerfed immediately.

[vale acorn]

I'd like to see a sort of 5v5 or even more larger team game mode where it's essentially fort wars, collecting and stealing resources to fortify and conducting continual raids on the other party. Leaning into Rust like raids.

[pearl rune]

it seems to be possible to stop your own medium breaching charge by standing inside the explosion point or something because i did that and it failed to breach a wall. this happen to anyone else? also it's really disappointing you can't use it to instantly breach goo

[hollow yarrow]

I wanna have the CNS finals logo loading screen for my wallpaper, is this posible embark?

[indigo nova]

I was a heavy main -
Nerfed charge and slam and RPG into the ground

I was a medium main -
Back to back cerb nerfs 😍

Why do I even bother?

[unkempt bridge]

Please revert the inanimate backstab nerf it added a lot of utility to the dagger which is already inconsistent and barely used, and revert the backstab angle, the reduced angle has only made it even more inconsistent and didnt fix the orignal problem of desync, im begging you
Also an option to change mantling from holding forward to jumping or something, ive had my charge canceled countless time because it forced me to mantle.

[paper oak]

the new drill gagdet , its ass ngl

[regal forge]

this guys doesn't seem to know that you can balance things by buffing other weapons and giving them a place in the meta instead of nerfing guns that don't even need nerfs

[delicate marlin]

The identity of the classes doesnt really exist anymore. It used to be medium- support, generalist heavy- destruction, AOE, sustain DMG and light- 1v1 hit and run. Now every class has healing and can do support, light arguably has the best destruction with thermal charges

[trail terrace]

THIS WAS UNNECESARY EMBARK, i didnt go outta my way to buy this with premium currency if i have to unlock everything in order , lemme just pick what i want

[green cliff]

My thoughts on the recent changes:

Why is the Cerberus getting nerfed? It's only point is high burst damage.
Why isn't the SH1900 getting nerfed? that thing can delete heavies no problem but a full point blank burst of cerberus can't?

Sledge nerf was actually alright. I still get dunked on by sledges.

The Minigun and KS-23 buffs really didn't achieve anything and these two should still get a more combat related buff. (not talking about damage but general ease of use)

Buffing the LH1 is cool but the V9S still pumps out way too much damage even at long range, completely overshadowing the LH1. Maybe give the V9S more/harsher damage drop-off.

Overall the buffs achieved nothing and the things that got nerfed REALLY didn't need nerfing (apart from sledge). Balance guys thought they were cooking but it looks more like a coma.

And @trail terrace you get ST by playing. What you're looking for is the store.

[west kestrel]

Let me upgrade my battlepass to Ultimate with Multibucks instead of asking me to pay $47 to buy it.

[icy charm]

cerberus got touched tho

[lyric junco]

Apparently you get refunded the multibucks if you buy ultimate after buying the normal

[dark niche]

the new map is so amazing i think its my favorite <3

[cold bolt]

we understand embark, nothing is allowed to be good other than TheARs

[regal apex]

yes the inanimate thing is stupid no one complained about backstabbing turrets

[potent pawn]

instead of multibucks, battle passes should give me the equivalent money directly

[rugged prawn]

Heavy got too many nerfs, entire class is now painful to play.

[restive sail]

Vaiiya cosmetics are low effort reused asset slop. do better embark.

[queen urchin]

Revert hammer nerf
Literally unplayable now

[dusty igloo]

6.9
Broken goo blobs and no more hitting Goo Locked players
7.0
Previous issue remains AND Goo Gun no longer stops steals
Sledge swing damage dropped from 115 to 100
-Overhead swing dropped from 200 to 154
-Sledge quick melee combos no longer effective

Peoples issues with sledge are coming from the winch, it cancelling attacks, desync on winch I assume keeping them unable to attack for a second after the winch ends, it sucks.

[near spruce]

gain the cod playerbase with call of duty camo progression and prestiges 👍

[hoary gate]

Heavy makes me sad. I feel like everything good and fun has been nerfed. I just want winch to cancel ks-23 rechamber animation again but I was using sledge at least and still having fun but now that’s nerfed too. You have to use the classic sweaty boring loadouts to get anything done on heavy and that’s just not a good idea guys.

[midnight wigeon]

im sure charge n slam still ignores the nerf the ks had with needing to rack the shell before firing

[west ivy]

sledge nerf makes no sense

[primal frost]

please revert the sledgehammer, i don't want to m2 a heavy 2 times + m1 him to kill him

[ebon hemlock]

wtf is this ultimate/premium shit??? I accidentally bought the premium battlepass instead of ultimate and it was $30!? I thought i was buying the ultimate
edit: I did buy the ultimate but it says i only have the premium. am i just missing something or am i stupid??

[slender pine]

Can you guys try balancing for fun instead of based on what the top streamers are bitching about that week? How are we killing all weapons in favor of ARs? Shits so boring

[random rock]

Minigun NEEDS to have the pre spin mechanic reverted. It was fine being able to pre spin, this update makes it super obnoxious to use and it's not meaningfully stronger over last season. Big downgrade.
Now it's harder to fight range, harder to fight CQC, and lights can still shred you with the SH1900.

Compare this against the SHAK-50. Usable at all ranges, low TTK, faster reload, more viable. Why even have a minigun if it was going to be crippled? Especially after emerald AND gold skins.

Bad change.

[hearty bough]

I will reiterate that your take here is incredibly low IQ, it does not make the game look bad to have weapons that introduce and huge degree of variety be viable. Note that I’m not complaining about the sledge nerf - if it’s truly the 3rd best weapon in the game based on win rate data, it def needs a buff.

My point is that both GLs, both medium melees, spear, dagger, and flamethrower are all generally D tier weapons.

It is not “gimmicky” to have a positioning and decision making based weapon (ie the non-bullet shooting weapons) that objectively provides a more tactical gameplay experience to the user (try getting good with riot shield and you’ll see what I mean, solo’d to diamond 3x on that thing) be viable in the meta.

Clearly you’ve never played an arena/movement shooter given that you seem more interested in turning this game into CoD with destruction

[fringe sapphire]

maybe your aasssssssss at the game

[lusty ginkgo]

1 "Show Token" per game? are you kidding us embark??

[stable basalt]

I bought the alien bundle from season 1 on season 4 and not receive the free legacy season 1. What’s happening

[slow void]

Hummm feel like a maxi bug ... OK servers are down !

[agile rune]

is matchmaking working for anyone?

[jagged cedar]

The nerf was so minor nobody noticed in the playtest

[fringe hatch]

Servers down bro they can’t handle a peak of 26k players at least on steam

[surreal bloom]

yep servers down

[modern grail]

My biggest fear rn is power shift being heavy hell, with shield bubble, mesh shield, barricades, and this healing ball.

Also a lot of cosmetics feel overpriced. Why the hell does a single banana deagle skin cost more then 10 dollars?

[warm elk]

uff

[jagged shell]

lot of thing is down not just finals

[north cloak]

Am I the only one having issues connecting?

[thorny lynx]

It is 100% INSANE to see your long paragraphs at the end of patch notes addressing the EPIC cheating problems, to literally load in, purchase the BP and have RAGE cheating in my first lobbies. Did you forget to actually turn the anti-cheat back on orrrrrrr??????
@echo urchin Literally NOBODY asked for your basic opinion. Go troll elsewhere

[quick coyote]

add a ZIPPO style lighter emote to the game

[fleet meadow]

Yeah, same connecting issues, looks like servers are down

[gray jasper]

Is the game broke after the patch?
Its showing failed to sync data error

[wraith solstice]

Can’t login into the game after a restart on Xbox

[round rose]

Дувбуйоби!

[molten trout]

The servers probably crashed

[tiny arch]

Server is down

[brisk barn]

https://tenor.com/view/hot-drinking-hot-girl-girl-taylor-swift-gif-17297904

[sonic spoke]

Yes server is down is in the system!!!!!!!

[fast atlas]

Same here, unable to purchase new gear or connect to a game

[frozen pebble]

Servers are down worldwide looks like, hopefully they stop being cheap and buy some better servers lol

[somber crest]

came here to check, servers are defo down

[vagrant mortar]

Yeah servers down

[ember robin]

Yep servers are down

[hallow wyvern]

Servers are down embark 😭😭 we were about to play the final round come on

[rigid cape]

Hello

[drifting topaz]

• NERF CL40

• NERF HEAL GUN

[fierce skiff]

is the finals severs down the game wont let me start cause it cant sync my data

[echo urchin]

lol, cheating has always and will always exist. Literally no one has ever solved how to perfectly prevent cheating. Stop being melodramatic.

[desert drift]

are the serevres down ? I can't connect to the game

[tranquil peak]

With a lot more placeable gadgets being more viable now, I think it's time to bump up the Data Reshaper back to 3 uses.

[kindred spear]

damn this happened beginning of last season too man

[hybrid spear]

Hopefully when the servers come back they have a LTM playlist for the new map... haven't seen it once in +15 games now. Feels bad.

[wanton zodiac]

Servers are down. I am stuck in the "we are waiting for other contestants to connect" screen 😦

[half heart]

fix the servers, unnerf the hammer, stop coddling light = 5 stars

[visual pine]

I believe the Heavy Hitters event helped a lot of players understand and use the sledge hammer on Heavy build effectively. The event didn't have the winch either to aid in close range fights, so with enough practice in a unranked game mode where everyone was on the same playing field its no surprise how good people got skill diffing the other builds, especially the Light build during Quick Play and other modes hence its nerf. It's not a fair one.

Funny how Cerb gets a nerf (again) while the Double Barrel remains untouched and can wipe a Medium in a single shot and a Heavy in two, but Cerb needs all 3 to remain effective. People depended on the burst and afterburn on Cerb to deal with darting/invisible Light builds and fend against Heavy and Medium builds.

Grenade Launchers I feel should be looked at again. Mediums GL is in a fine spot but would like to see a tad bigger slash zone on missed shots and Heavy's GL rounds shouldn't bounce but kind of skid on the ground where they land helping make the shots more predictable to the user instead of hoping one ricochets close enough to make any meaningful damage and reduce self injury.

Light build pandering will never stop unfortunately with how many people here adore the weight class complain about how everything can kill them in a heart beat as if they can't do the same. If you take offence to this statement you're part of the problem.

[candid lintel]

When will we be able to change our Player Numbers?

[coral saddle]

yap not reading that

[river talon]

Could you maybe nerf it a bit and increase the 'show tokens'? Because farming that many tokens without having several older battle passes will take millions of hours. 5-6 tokens per hours is really low

[broken tiger]

skill issue (heavy main)

[real sierra]

fo real I jumped on because I wanted to play the new map and I just couldn't get it for hours

[umbral valley]

What do you guys think about the practice range? Honestly, pretty good

[fierce slate]

lol played 2 games - then then the game crashes.... not possible to even launch in again. Keeps staying in connecting

[dreamy idol]

MY GAME RESET AFTER SERVER FIX PLEASE HELP

[somber kayak]

is game server down ?

[gentle geode]

just came home from training why cant i log in broo😿 😭

[wet parrot]

Just reached the final round of WT and it crashed 😭

[proven crown]

Massive server issues rn it seems. Can't connect to even the practice range

[uneven carbon]

Wait why can't I load

[broken crest]

Dear EMBARK TEAMDear EMBARK TEAM I have one thing to say about your patchotes we real the last patchotes are right against Mele Weapons properly shit I see no one wants the weapons that the weapons are generated as Z. Dagger or Hammer and Sword (except Appoh) But they do it anyway they only lose your players because that annoys. That's why I ask you to BUFF the weapons again especially hammer and sword in the next UPDATE thank you

[slim dove]

I can't log into anything even a practice range

[empty marlin]

@woven chasm Hello. Can you talk to the other developers at Embark about adding K/D ratio by Stats.

Would be a simple add as Kills and Deaths are present . We have to calculate it ourselves but can yall add it in please ?

[keen matrix]

FINALS LAST PATCH has many bugs in it so they are trying to fixs it so its just to be patient AND PLS embrak add dmg done istead of combinding it with a score

[storm frigate]

after update to the last season 7 i cannot login enymore : Error code TFSS0007

[edgy glen]

Honestly a very boring season

• No new weapons
• Basically just gadget and weapon nerfs, with two actually impactful buffs to two light weapons and nothing else
• 2 of the 3 gadgets are very boring healing items that just work to make the game less interesting and more frustrating

[lavish venture]

heyo, anyone know of an Error Code:
TFSS0007?

[bleak ruin]

How can i change the Numbers on my clothes?

[sturdy acorn]

dale a tu cuerpo alegria macarena

[river hearth]

heavy is back to being unfun
medium lost his niche and his light bullying device
all because lights refuse to grasp that their class is high RISK high reward

battlepass is no longer FOMO (which is good) and the sponsor rewards and bonus pages are meh

genuinely no reason for me to play this season so I won't

I love this game. do better.

[potent oasis]

i had the same thing , but servers are down so

[native quarry]

You understand this game is made by Nexon right, one of the largest gaming companies

[idle quartz]

made by embark: a small studio, published by nexon: a huge company

[lofty turret]

Down Detector: Embark Studios outages reported in the last 24 hours
212 reports 06/12/25

[clear glacier]

I agree with the light argument though as a sword main I like high risk high reward. Only problem is there is no reward for sword.

[verbal steppe]

I’ve never seen a community lock in so hard to dog on the devs for a patch before, kudos.

[old garden]

buff healing beam 🙏 🙏

[thick sorrel]

Savings on servers, right?

[thick vale]

Aug for medium

[lapis apex]

settings, interactions, data protection, playernumber

[flat whale]

Guys
anyone have a server error ??
TFSS0007

[grand gate]

Yes it's normal

[supple temple]

revert the nerf's none of them were warranted this season in the slightest this season especially for the melee weapons

[topaz jungle]

I can’t even complain about your balancing changes cause the servers are down. Well played Embark.

[maiden plume]

I put this on another chat but: I feel like if you purchase the premium bp the ultimate bp price should drop to $19.99 I’d personally be more inclined to spend the $20 than $30 and feel like others would too.

[ember dirge]

Anyone think its kind of ridiculous that the cns sponsor rewards are the same cosmetics u get when you get to stage 3 in rewards, EMBARK NO ONE WANTS REWARD SLOTS FILLED WITH REWARDS WE ARE GONNA GET ANYWAY, let alone the trash rewards period, like give us the outfit in one slot and thats it, instad of milking the rewards and giving them the same thing, and itd be cool if you guys stopped re releasing used cosmetics in different colors or whatever, mask in the battlepass season before last, literally in the store in two different colors, at least change the design a little, or not make the battlepass useless, awesome that the OGs wont have any drip now with all the "legacy passes" like what airhead is approving this stuff, stop reusing old assests and battle pass stuff, and actually give us rewards that arnt half baked and/or fully unlocked in a set later down the line. "Lets have four pages of sponsor rewards and a quarter of them are rewards your gonna get anyways when u get the set" stupid

[serene otter]

Why they don't say nothin?

[runic forge]

Nerfing melee in this game is criminal and complain about oneshots when the double barrel exists

[pulsar jay]

pass is horrible without ultimate, please put better skins in the "premium" track and have ultimate be its own thing that doesnt take away from it

[clear hemlock]

Sledges primary nerf was fair but no reason to nerf secondary so hard

[fair owl]

regular BP is vaiiya the other are the ultimate CNS, you still get the white versions without paying for the ultimate

[small matrix]

man why did they have to mess with sledge so horribly

[glacial compass]

did you check game-announcements?

[upper apex]

WHY I CANT PLAY FOR ALMOST OVER 40 MINUTES?! IT ALL THE TIME SAYS I HAVE CONNECTION LOST, AND WHEN I TRY DO THE TOURNAMENT IT SAYS ALMOST 10MINS OF WAIT!!??!?! WTH?!!?

[charred folio]

Just dropped £25 on the new pass and I got kicked out. Can’t get back into the game because of an error. It’s Overwatch 2 all over again.

[steep imp]

[Heavy] Hidden patch note? New vault-over-barricade animation

After a few games, I’m not a fan. It feels like the vault animation fails to trigger about half the time, which is super frustrating.

Also noticing what seems like a slight delay between a sledgehammer hitting a wall and the wall actually starting to break. Could be server instability, but I’ve seen it happen pretty consistently.

[severe prairie]

I just got in

[night mirage]

Can we get Lemonades as Granade and call them Lemonade 🔥

[sweet shell]

somebody know when the server will be fixed?

[gleaming sun]

Personal feedback : The hammer is now very much useless, like most of the melees u nerfed to the ground and everyone is just using guns now

[chilly atlas]

Luminous has a skill issue. Laughs in lvl 10 hammer.

[proper nacelle]

The Melee nerfs are completely unneeded. I have some friends who play exclusively hammer and I don’t think they are gonna play this season anymore

[long oxide]

bring sledge back, this is dumb, also dagger

[slender girder]

Not even 1 per game. I played 3 games today and got 2 tokens. They need to give us alot more to justify casual players spending on those passes as well.

Do the right thing, Embark! Earn more money, please the players = win/win.

[undone summit]

i really think meele nerfs should be reversed, at least find other ways to nerf the very annoying stuff like Dash+sword, Winch + Hammer since it appears to be what bothers people, the actual damage never seemed that bad to me

[shrewd seal]

servers are up

[torpid helm]

Stop price inflation for your damn items it’s too much, lower the prices no one likes playing 30 games for 1 item

[real ether]

Looking back upon the promotional material, I really like that all the most prominent promotional material used the premium battle pass version of the skins and not the ultimate battle pass version!

[agile silo]

meele is basically useless now

[sage sonnet]

Please lower the ultimate bp to $20 or $25.
I don’t know why the fuck I bought it I feel so stupid for getting that shit

[vapid cypress]

Why am I unable to buy the ultimate battlepass in China? I don't see the option. Is this forever or a bug?

[trail prairie]

Is it not crazy that if you buy the ultimate battle pass the amount of multi bucks you get back should be equal to what you payed for the pass? Like every other battle pass in other games? Edit: looking at the patch notes you do get 1k extra on the ultimate, but premium, premium+ and ultimate stages is wild

[simple quiver]

Let people who owned the battle pass back when they were out to finish the bonus pages. It's weird that we get to do Season 1 because it didnt have one but we cant to the others?

[warped axle]

locking rewards behind a battlepass that cant be bought with in game currency is a shitty thing to do dont be shocked if no one is playing this game in a year

[wanton estuary]

Error code TFSS0007

[velvet oracle]

where are the mfs who were complaining about sledge being too good?

[grave frost]

true

[stoic fox]

Now that every class has a healing item please add a healing badge! I love the badges

[high wing]

SEASON 7: MAJOR DISAPPOINTMENT

Core experience is flawed. The new €30 Battle Pass tier proves player experience is secondary to monetization.

Still Missing Basic Features:

No In-Game Profiles (standard in FPS).
No Match History (essential online).
No Personal Stats (classes, weapons, specs, gadgets).
No Community Stats (trends, data).
No Ping Indicator (basic necessity).
No Direct DMs (limits social).
Poor Friend Status (game time, round).
No Clear Numerical Weapon Stats.
No Ranked Solo Queue.

Critical Unresolved Issues:

Unfixed Netcode (persistent issues).
Unreliable Hit Reg (frustrating).
Bad Respawn System (worsening, high priority).
Broken Audio (bugs, impacts awareness).
Poor/Shallow Balance (stale, no depth).
Horrible Matchmaking (worst MMR, unbalanced teams).

Monetization & Priorities:

No Local Shop Pricing
Greedy €30 BP Tier: Shows monetization over core gameplay while issues persist.

[rare light]

embark unfortunately with a heavy heart I have to let myself be robbed for an overpaid ultimate pass, instead of 114 money it should cost 50-60% less, I don't need some crap like 25% bonus to XP or additional 1000mb or 20 levels, I only want those 10 elite rewards for which I am severely overpaying, 114 PLN in my country is a really big amount, you exaggerated, I hope it was just a one-time mistake, because from a really cool company making good games you are becoming just like others like Electronic Arts,

[simple sphinx]

Die bot, you don't belong in this world

[rotund gust]

imagine Halo removed meleeing after shooting the shotgun.
It's very surprising you guys actually think getting rid of quick melee in all itz forms is a positive for the game. I genuinelly can't take you seriously as devs.
Did you ever play The Finals? and if so how on earth did you ever think the smooth nature of quick melee was a negative thing and not an absolute highlight of what makes the game good. Since season 3 you have removed nerfed or changed pretty much everything that made the game fun to play and since s3 I've only done my dailies then got off so I could get my skins in a mere hope the game would get better, but it only got worse, every time. Maybe Embark you should stick to full release paid games as Arc Raiders looks amazing and move away from live service titles. You guys would make a great Battlefield game.

[junior ravine]

revert Sledge nervs or at least make em less Drastic

[grand ferry]

tell em king (not actually the nerf aint that bad so I still use it)

[spring gull]

revert all melees yall got the stun gun back anyway

[sterile tendon]

In my country it closely equals a day in your job worth money to buy premium battlepass. So I have to spend 1/20th of my working time to pay for 10 "premium" paywall skins. Absurd.

[noble tide]

Please make a way to limit which one you want
cause for the shak I only want the Cns, pinata and ice not the other random skins
maybe a way to put favorites and only those are used or something like that

[placid parrot]

Make it so that you can convert VRs to STs for the legacy battle passes, this gives use to the currency mid season

[fierce valve]

Plz. Mgl. Buff it by at least 1 so it can 3 direct shot a heavy instead of leaving literally 1hp

[red zinc]

Get rid of the ultimate pass it’s a terrible system it’s just a cod black cell rip off the finals don’t need a system like that

[crystal nebula]

the finals works

[vast hornet]

why when the game gets stuck on loading screen then i restart my game get back before the first cash is even in then it gives me -1.5k for winning? in a ranked match? wtf embark?

[frozen tree]

This please! I have so many sword skins I love but also ones I don’t really like so being able to choose what gets shuffled is great. Also buff sword? Please?

[sonic forum]

Game continue crashing on Xbox series X, automatical shutdown every 2 games

[hard magnet]

How has the timer STILL not been properly sinced up with the cashbox in quick cash? it is season 7 and the game has been out for over a year!

[jaunty wolf]

I second this. I only want to use some of my AKM skins, not all of them at random.

[iron dew]

should be a discount hopefully mid season if not $30 to support the DEVS. i went with supprt Embark

[thick sand]

It would be nice for the deep shuffle to be able to pick favorites so it rotates only between those not all the skins that you have

[red arch]

Goo cocooning is so broken, please fix, you can steal while being goo gunned by your teammate and you’re practically invincible

[solemn sedge]

Please fix my elevator im begging you guys 🙏

[fathom jetty]

spudnik was originally 950 but now its saying thats a discount price? is this a sneaky way to increase mythic weapons price? hope its just a mistake to be honest

[tropic haven]

i can't buy the legacy pass of season 1 rn because i dont have enough. when s5's pass drops with season 8 will it be locked and replaced by it or can i still get the very first ones? are they gonna stay or just rotate?

[stoic cloud]

Please please change the team colors to visually distinct options, blue, red, green, and yellow could be a good color selection, but soemthing that is very distinct please. Red/pink/purple is too close

[lusty monolith]

Please do the right thing and Bring Back The Sledge!!

2
A Map like Kyoto but somewhere in Afrika would be crazy

Please do the right thing and Bring Back The Sledge!!

[pseudo relic]

Is anyone get error for launching the game

[placid jolt]

30 bucks for a battlepass 💀

[tranquil canopy]

We need sled hummer back

[quick coyote]

yes 😭

[warped haven]

the new practice range thing is actually really cool, imagine if we could make our own arenas/bot spawn waves or if there was an endless mode

[keen island]

Embark, if you even read these or accept criticism….you have so so much disappointment to bounce back from.

Letting your fans down with the Arc Raiders countdown disaster and now the AWFUL changes to the finals. ESPECIALLY when it comes to how Embark apparently HATES heavy and melee players. I have next to no hype for this season because you’re actively butchering your game. Haven’t even mentioned all the new extra micro transactions like are you f-ing kidding?!

With no Arc Raiders and every play style besides light double barrel being nerfed into the Stone Age; there really is nothing from embark to be excited for, except their music.

You’re better than this and we all know that.

[robust pagoda]

Make healing countered by fire

[restive grove]

season 7 is the worst season Embark has ever done and it hurts me a lot to know that we will never have anything like season 2.

[marsh surge]

keybindings broken with new release ?

[nocturne shale]

they are doing it with multiple skins its so shitty of them to do this.

[elder kettle]

plz, add an option to choose an arena to play. I want to play on a new 2 sides arena and constantly not getting there. That's make you want to leave the game session to connect to another one trying to get where you want

[west adder]

7 seasons and hoodies still make your character bald embark please I don't want to be bald

[sleek plover]

Love the randomize skins feature, we're almost there. Just please let us choose which skins to randomize plsssss

[delicate notch]

nerf the CL40 already

[royal spear]

It makes me happy that people are unhappy with the sledge nerf, please revert it for us fatties out there

[umbral swift]

Suggestion: Penultimate Battle Pass ($10)

• "Unlocks" the 10 "Elite" skin levels
  • Still need to grind XP for the level like usual
• Does not unlock Premium track rewards
• Does not give 1000 Multibucks
• Does not give +20 Levels on the Battle Pass
• Does not give a 25% XP bonus for the season

Make Ultimate Battle Pass/Penultimate Battle Pass permanently available, not time-limited.

Balancing

• Sword
  • Revert Sword secondary to 140
• Dagger
  • Revert Dagger backstab to 180°
  • Bring back Turret/Goo backstab
  • Bring back charge slide
  • Bring back optional tap-to-backstab (eg, how Throwing Knives can tap or hold)
• Sledgehammer
  • Revert Sledgehammer to 115/200

https://www.reddit.com/r/thefinals/comments/1it1icj/comment/mdnd5tc/

Without getting too specific and writing a novel (melee viability and balance becomes a pretty big and varied topic very quickly), we definitely believe that melee needs some work to improve its viability and we’ll be working towards that over time, but I’m not sure we know exactly which specific changes we’d like to add just yet. We’re definitely open to suggestions here. We’ve always wanted playstyle asymmetry (i.e. very varied and different playstyles) to be a big part of THE FINALS. Melee weapons, Grenade Launchers, Flamethrowers and Assault Rifles are all valid parts of THE FINALS experience.
Melee changes since then:

• Sword: Gutted
• Dagger: Gutted
• Sledgehammer: Gutted
• Riot Shield: Bug fixes, nothing else
• Dual Blades: Buffed and still complete trash
• Spear: Buffed and still complete trash

[cyan cairn]

No pink m60 🤧💔

[jade cloak]

If you bought it, it wont change. Cause they see now that it works and people are willing to buy it. The only way for the prices are upwards (Except if people just stop buying the insanely expensive stuff)

I dont say dont support the devs, I say dont support predatory monetization techniques

[gleaming summit]

holy after the mmorpg patch buffed 3 stacks, higherd ttk. Still after 1. 1/2 year no f*** matchmaking patch let 3 stacks fight against 3 stacks holy sh*** wtf

[south igloo]

So I updated my game in steam, I log in and my game appears in season 6 still saying season 7 coming out soon…? What’s happening?

[dire herald]

I'm sorry if melee is strong at short ranges, but that's the way it is. In melee, you literally have no chance of farming damage at medium-long ranges unless it's with gadgets. The light kills in two shots with their "slow" weapons, and with the rest of their weapons, they have a good DPS ratio, sometimes too much at long ranges for a submachine gun, but I accept it. What can't be true is that a light charges into a melee and thinks they have the right to win; light is a kind of flanking, enter, kill, and leave. Not only do they have the mobility to escape, but they specifically have a hook that moves them away from the heavy's hook, a dash with 3 charges that moves them away up to 3 times from the heavy, who ONLY HAS ONE HOOK EVERY 14 seconds unless he misses. To kill a heavy, you're forcing me to land two heavy hits and one light / two heavies and two elbows / 4 light / 2 heavy, elbow, and a 5-damage gadget / 1 heavy, 2 light

Right now, the flamethrower is a mace, but better. The spear is a faster weapon with more range, and its strong hit, in exchange for not breaking, hits multiple enemies in an area.

Right now, the mace is horrible for killing light attacks (of course, you have the heavy hit, which one-shots them... It's just that the light has A LOT of mobility). Oh... but against heavy attacks...? Oh, of course, against the flamethrower before the nerf, you often died or came out very low on health in a 1vs1 fight against the spear? Same, the difference is that the only one nerfed here.

Better season in a lot of thinks except for balance changes

[mint flower]

no battlepass upgrade for $30

[steel stone]

Glad we get to pay 30 real USD for the ultimate pass when you could have just made it cost enough multibucks that if the players bought the 2 day 1 packs they could also get the ultimate battle pass

The new heal gadgets were terrible ideas as they take away the idea that the medium class was an all arounder, but had the added bonus of being able to support

Its been out for 2 seasons, and Bernal is probably the worst map, maybe save for Kyoto, as it feels stupid flat, even with the sponsor platforms, there's no real movement or verticality and makes the map extremely boring to play on, especially for Powershift

[nova kite]

What about adding passive abilities?

I have a few ideas, but what are you guys think?

[sterile canopy]

all the classes should really be able to do any playstyle, with the exception of cases where there is no practical way to achieve this without it being overpowered.

[glad brook]

Dear Mr.Embark Valkyrie is still the face of practice range please fix it

[molten trail]

low gravity still being an event is an absolute joke. this needed to be binned seasons ago

[keen fractal]

Its my 5th match now, (world tour) still haven't got the new map... that frustrating... cant you make something, that you get to play for sure the new map when its out? Im working, I dont have unlimited time...

[lime lichen]

No new specializations for 4 seasons in a row.... But at least they are trying to milk the game for all it's worth before they drop it for arc raiders

[brisk garden]

this map is amazing (DELETE KYOTO and the game will be perfect)

[random scarab]

add leaderboard to the challenges please :D

[slow forge]

Speedrunning it is fun tbh

[austere wing]

The finals was half assed, and kind of meant to keep the arc raiders fanbase at bay while they work on arc raiders. They don’t care about the finals nearly as much as arc raiders, and the finals development has seemed to slow down and degrade recently

[plush fjord]

Embark I dont understand you logic of "nerfing the gun thats in top place". its just gonna lead us to a cycle of nerfs.

FAMAS and AKM are currently top picks for meds. You nerf both of these guns.
Now theyre terrible and much worse than other certain guns, lets say FCAR and revolver.
So FCAR and Revolver are now the top picks. You see that theyre the top picks, so you nerf them too. Now they're worse than Model 1887.
You nerf Model 1887 because it was a top pick.

It literally just causes the overal weapon quality to decline. Ur gonna make this a snoozefest if TTK and weapon qualty keeps dropping.

If a gun is on top that doesnt mean you nerf it. You just buff the weapons at the bottom.
I dont wanna give examples cos i love this game more than any other but look at Valorant.
Vandal is the top pick gun. Far better than another AR, Phantom. But instead of nerfing Vandal bcz its in top, they just buff the Phantom.

Go on that kinda track. Buff instead of nerf.

REVERT SLEDGE NERF. MAKE MEELEE BETTER.

[velvet rain]

i just have a question will the ultimate battle pass be permanent or will you have to pay 30$ each season you want the pass?

[nova carbon]

How do I access the chat on Xbox

[rugged tundra]

nice game

[rocky plover]

How about Revert all the weapons back to their Season 1 counterparts, Bring Back Nukes too. People played the finals because it was unique we don’t need another Discount Cod

[jolly ridge]

Please revert the sledgehammer

[obtuse bolt]

unplayable lag every time i get the new map:/

[muted gazelle]

3 games tonite
2 quick cashes went without any issues
now powershift lagging so hard its concerning

[opaque goblet]

Seems that there are some non limited items from the shop that have gone missing?

[umbral karma]

Pls revert hammer nerf 🥲

[lapis trench]

HOLY PEAK this season looks insane <3 EMBARK YOU COOKED

i love the aesthetic this season so much.

[zenith spoke]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oLYtCyjJYzY revert goo gun changes fast

[twilit void]

This has been an issue for me but when I play ranked (solo que because I don't have any friends who play the finals) either people quit in the first 3 minutes or won't get more than 2 kills while playing light. This wouldn't be such an issue if my rank wouldn't drop going like 10-5 and doing the objective just because my team doesn't want to play the game with me. Thanks for reading my yap session 🙏🏻

[tepid fog]

the game still fucking sucks. hardest falloff to date

[slow fog]

Love the hammer nerfs nothing like waking up and seeing bronze manchildren having meltdowns in here because their S tier weapon no longer plays the game for them

[terse slate]

Please put the 2000+ win sweats somewhere far away in their own playground. Its ridiculous that you get ridiculously lasered and matched as gold skill with ruby skill level... thats wow...

[thin obsidian]

More of a minor gripe that was introduced last season but please please make it so we can just esc spam back to the menu after a game again.
I play a lot of quick play and I do not care in the slightest about 90% of the stat pages or what career xp I got or whatever and having to do some combination of space and esc but not too many esc since that will open another menu and not progress me towards the lobby at all is frustrating as heck.

[near hill]

I like that the announcer is more talkative this season but his new lines are totally nonsensical. They could use another pass by writers because "It's no defense, it's cleansing" is omega cringe and you hear it or some variation on it 100 times a match

[native plinth]

The flashbang nerf was great, thanks Embark! My eyes can't thank you enough 👍

[jagged walrus]

Having to wait 80+ days just for 3 new pieces of equipment is insane. We need new abilities or something to change the gameplay up. It has felt stale for a while now.

[boreal bloom]

where can i post a game mode suggestion?

[dreamy owl]

stop the publicity after the match , come on

[mighty kernel]

Stop solo queuing as a light bro

[analog silo]

me when i just write shit, they have 2 seperate dev teams for both games

[neat hull]

Yes please! just got of a match with some rubies in the enemy team. They pulled us with them into the final and then just decimated us over and over. Not fun at all

[crystal ravine]

Why isnt the ospuze can jump pad in the shop anymore? It didnt say it was limited edition to get it, like the rest of the items

[calm orbit]

loving the new look of the new cosmetics, but can we get some more hairstyles? specifically, African hairstyles? outside of the different colors of cornrows, there isn't really any

[radiant reef]

Please add way more saved outfit slots, 24 are extremely little.

[livid spruce]

Stop removing Vegas 2032 from the map rotation please...

[mighty obsidian]

Is anyone else getting error code TFLA0013 when they try and login on Xbox? I’ve done everything and it just won’t let me in. It was working perfectly yesterday.

[verbal lintel]

Please add the option to filter clothes etc. by sponsor and color

[swift roost]

let us buy the premium battle pass with multibucks ☹️

[oak sorrel]

If there’s such an issue with sledge and quick melees, why not just reduce either the size of the QM hit box or just reduce the time it is active

[pliant glade]

loving! i mean loving the update. quick question tho embark.... WHERE THE FUCK IS BANK IT. please man i just want a true casual experience i miss it so much

[errant crater]

NERF DEFIB NERF DEMAT

[quick coyote]

REVERT SLEDGE NERF
Was just about to spend $30 on old battlepasses, now i wont

[small scarab]

just hit a 10 minute cue for tdm

[quick coyote]

Honestly pretty disappointed to see the direction you decided to take when it comes to monetizing your game in this new season. It's also concerning because as far as I am concerned your studio is also working on arc raiders and I now assume you are going to do the same to that game on release which is pretty sad and makes it feel like you don't actually care about making a good game anymore but instead just want an environment for whales to come and spend money without caring about anything else, such as destroying a lot of weapons this season. I'll be enjoying my only 10$ i spent on your game for the rest of its life span as a token of what i think about it, I was willing to get every season's starter pack as a thank you but this doesn't cut it anymore. Please at least consider not trying to prey on your players with time based, extra payment passes and at least if you're going this way make them permanently owned with no expiration on any of the rewards or bonus tiers.

[dull otter]

Can we get the option to change scope in the PR?

[hot beacon]

Feed back on new monetization elite pass focused love the game but I do have feedback to keep things healthy for you and the gamers
Ill start with I think it’s fine to have some cosmetics only cash but the battle pass having multiple tiers really rubs me the wrong way and the price is out of this world (45$can I can buy games for that price) since you have to buy it as a pack and can’t just unlock it with out boosting levels ect the normal skins look like basic versions of the good higher tier skins and working of fomo to get more money is really rough especially when you consider you brought back the old battle passes this is a really bad move to move to elite passes really a bummer makes it feel like all you care about is money to letting people look cool and have fun
I really love your game and play it lots but this is a really bitter pill to swallow this over monetization is cod levels bad literally and just because some one else does it doesn’t mean it’s right or that you should rant over

[supple mortar]

Revert the sword, hammer and dagger.

[eager gyro]

PLEASE ADD NEW MAP FOR TDM

[inner bough]

turn back sledge and sword please

[gritty owl]

After having played quite a few hours, here some feedback:

• Season 7 music 11/10, as always
• New map is amazing
• 30€ for ultimate season pass is a bit much, but you get 2000 coins, and all ultimate skins have regular versions, so it's fine
• New gadgets are great, a lot of people worried about healing meta, but so far it seems pretty fine.
• The sledge nerf was completely overdone. Sledge has zero range and is slow, it has to be good in its range. I guess a slight nerf would've been fine, but the damage nerf is too much, especially since the heavy attack can't multi hit.
• Similar situation with the sword (and i'm saying that as a non-sword player even), and same situation with the dagger before it got adjusted.
• goo health and goo nade size changes are good
• the other weapon balancing changes feel good

Stuff i wish to be added:

• Support for more gyro controllers, especially switch controllers
• HDR
• Better directional audio/HRTF audio/SteamAudio API
• 9 instead of 8 character slots so you can have 3 of each class

[languid trail]

you on drugs?

[sullen girder]

Been playing for few hours and never played the new map, i dont think its rocket science to make probability of new map higher start of new season

[lost moth]

agreed i also havent seen it yet n ive been playing for about 4 hours

[west marlin]

What the hell happened to sniper rifle. I'm one shotted by lights on drugs as heavy.

[gloomy talon]

Hi Embark! DAY 13 of asking if its possible to add an OB, S1, S2 and S3 Diamond Background and Emblem?

I want this to be considered by the dev team as i believe it was stated they will be bringing the S3 ruby rewards to the ones who achieved that rank, and i am asking if it would be possible for diamond as well as the previous seasons.

[true karma]

buff reshaper

[tame vessel]

Here is a list of weapons that need to be buffed but not make them meta in the next balance patch

Spear: increase the basic attack damage combo to 70, 80, 95 and increase the spin attack damage to either 120 or 130

KS-23: increase the projectile speed to 500m/s and either add a 1.2x headshot multiplier or decrease the fire rate to 73 RPM and increase the player damage to 120

Riot shield: increase the swing speed by a little and make it so we can bash people while blocking if they get too close and the bash will do no damage but will knock them back a bit but not too far maybe like 5 meters and increase the movement speed when blocking

R.357:Increase the bodyshot damage to 75 and decrease the headshot multiplier to 1.9 therefore making it 75 × 1.9=142.5 and also decrease the fire rate by a little bit maybe from 140 to 130

Dual blades: add a parry mechanic so it can parry secondary attacks of other melee weapons like the sledgehammers overhead charge but it can't parry the primary attacks of other melee weapons and increase the first swing damage from 50 to 55 and increase the second swing damage from 60 to 65 and lastly increase the final attack damage from 65 to 75 and make it so the final attack can be done faster and increase the movement speed when deflecting by just a little bit

AKM: increase magazine capacity to 34, 35 or 36, the choice is yours on what number you choose

ARN-220: increase the fire rate to 750 rpm, decrease the duration of the tactical reload animation from 2.45s to 2.30s, decrease the duration of the full reload animation from 2.80s to 2.60s

Smoke Grenade: decrease the ammo from 3 to 2, and decrease the cooldown from 50s to 20s

please, please Embark these weapons and gadget need some love
Hopefully you guys see this, these emojis will highlight the message so you can see them 🥇:🤠🤯😵:⚽️:grinning:😆🙃😇🫠

[cursive creek]

Embark can you give me access to ARC Raiders early? So while your building the game, im running around playing it.
Take my offer seriously.

[flat pawn]

the "Compact Reflector" is too large for some guns.

https://www.reddit.com/r/thefinals/comments/1l9yn4n/the_compact_reflector_is_too_large_for_some_guns/

[pallid sigil]

30€ for BP "ultimate" and not whit the coin, sledge hamer nerf for nothing !
ok i'm playing since the alpha, and after this i delete the game..

[naive current]

Changing sight magnification should never be considered over making another sight to accommodate a different magnification. You're not aiming the same when the R. 357's only red dot sight is being changed to a different magnification. It's just a completely different aim style that's forced due to a rebalance that could really be called a nerf or buff depending on the use case now.

[quasi delta]

Day 3 of waiting until Embark is compliant with 2025 EU consumer protection guidelines.

[hollow sage]

Sledge nerf has ruined s7 for me and my friends. I've seen maybe .5% of people supporting the nerf and hundreds begging you to change it. And you still went live with it. Unfortunately,, I'm starting to think y'all don't listen to the player base after all. I've pumped like 400 hours into this game. It's the only shooter I still play, since it's the most unique. Nerfing melee to where it's unused is taking away 50% of what made this game fun and unique.

What's next, removing the destructible environment because debris is blocking sight lines for rooftop potshotters? Because that's the only thing making you stand out as a game at this point

Edit* has slow mode always been turned on for this chat? If not, them turning it on shows they obviously realize this is an unpopular update.

[forest wind]

ttk only changed vs light

[warped torrent]

HEACY Is BUGGED CHARGE AND SLAM MOVES LIKE A SNAIL

[white cedar]

I really like this skin but its got that weird injection mold weld line looking thing on the handle. Looks kinda plasticky

Literally unplayable 😔

[sweet sapphire]

Not sure if this has been mentioned, but I’ve noticed that it’s sometimes hard to realise that you’re being healed by the H+ Infuser. feel like the healing aura on the edges of the screen isn’t there or prominent enough.

[languid charm]

Using gateway to support doesnt give enough credit to the light player. I think if your teammate gets a kill after taking your gateway, you should get an assist. Also, maybe gateway can give more support score if a teammate uses it.

[vale acorn]

The new healing meta is going to have folks begging for melee weapon buffs. Buff them all, across the board

[wide void]

holy shit, you people are somehow getting WORSE at balancing every season. Sword has received almost no usage since you randomly gutted its lunge by 25%, and instead of touching it at all, you decide to do nearly the same thing to ANOTHER melee weapon?

Light deserves to die to left click + quick melee. Heavy deserves to die to two right clicks or AT LEAST two right clicks + quick melee. Medium should die to two left clicks + quick melee.

You can't even right click + left click a Medium if they get healed FIVE health in between now.

Watch Sledgehammer use fall through the floor like Sword did. Then watch as they finally buff Sword 1.5 months from now and buff Sledgehammer a whole season after that.

[fierce spoke]

worse part its they say about people cant fight against him in close range. bro its a melee why you expect to fight the tank class in close range in melee. you deserve to lose the figh 💀 make sledge great again pls

[autumn sedge]

THE H+ INFUSER IS AMAZING EMBARK CSN HAVE ALL MY MONEY

[sharp river]

nerf xp
nerf sledge

[compact ore]

Light is still golden boy , devs favourite class
Most weapons , most gadgets 😏

[copper sentinel]

Add tracer rounds to the game

[sonic spoke]

Extra level "awards" are exceptionally lame.

Love the potential for Meta disruption by having healing in any class.

Can't wait to hammer some contestants with a delete button. (Hammer "Nerf" was fine. Not noticing any significant reduction in effectiveness, but i didn't really use the elbow much before)

Thanks for an overall solid release.

[ebon gust]

As a sledge main, I may be biased, but I wanna give my thoughts on the nerfs. The reason I never used something like the spear, is simply because it has 0, none, no skill expression for the player. It is essentially "Get close and swing".

That is what made the sledgehammer so inticing and the main reason I play the finals. Its combos are what gave the sledge an identity. It was in no way easy to pull off, since the quick melee is much shorter range then either of the sledges swings, and it helped stop out of position lights. Lights are sledges biggest weakness as their mobility lets them easily kite the sledge, and reload, and do it again. The quick melee combo allowed a SKILLED sledge to position correctly, and punish and out of position light. It seems you are only listening to out of position lights that easily get picked by sledge, rather than sledge mains themselves. Its combos rewarded propper positioning and allowed for player expression. Now it is simply another spam left or right click melee. And worse yet, one of sledge's biggest counters (light with dash especially) can now bully sledges forever.

And the combo potential allowed good sledges to play more experimentally and show even more skill expression, like blowing a roof open and removing their TEAMS cover because the sledge knows they are able to get a pick and not just have the opponent run away. There is already so many options for an enemy to easily run away from sledge (ESPECIALLY THE GOO NADE), so removing combos worsens this feeling by a lot.

If you want melee to be viable in Finals, then learn to be okay with it being a top contending weapon, just like any other weapon. Do not punish players for utilizing it, and reward non-sledge players with not having to think about who they are facing and play differently. The players that seem to hate sledge the most, are ones that cannot come to grips that you cannot fight sledge the same way you can fight all other class types.

IGN: SuitedDash

[honest verge]

The Sledge/Goo Gun nerfs feel uncalled for. How can be go from Embark thinking Sledge Alt Fire should hit multi-targets a few seasons ago to it being nerfed. All over the place with their niche weapons. Stealth nerfing goo gun cancelling steals feels heavy handed. I have no interest in ESports and the game plays worse when it feels like matches are catered to it. MMM gameplay is whack

[untold willow]

gut the light health gun into the ground
now we have LLH meta in ranked incredibly cooked, if you want HML to be best light can't have super stackable utility
nerf the light health gun to like 5-10 ammo lol and buff healbeam

[empty briar]

game is unplayable on geforce now

[agile bough]

Sledge used to be one of the funnest weapons in the game. Not because it would dominate the game but since it allowed for fun play styles while not being so bad that it was unplayable. I am sad to say that sledge is known when of my least favourite to play. It is bord line unplayable and unfun. Please Please in the name of ospuze put it back to the way it was 🙏
The reasoning given is complete bull. Is a melee weapon not supposed to be good at close range? And if anything it being a melee weapon used by a slow moving heavy already makes it hard to play. If the others team notice that you are play it they can stand 20 meters away and there is nothing a hammer heavy can do. Extremely disappointing with these new nerfs #bringbacksledge
I legit might quit the game over this. Not cool embark

[daring fossil]

removed the cool stuff from the bonus pages, and put it behind ultimate, nice.

[distant gulch]

so we nerfing the dagger right?

[brisk jetty]

PRETTY please let us see chat after the match in scoreboard etc like before, and also please let us optionally disable the blur chat filter
i like to take screenies of interesting games/people and like to include chat

[onyx crystal]

no we are not

[quick coyote]

allow rerolling circuit chalenges with VRs

[hard grove]

I abandoned my son for this game.

[analog cave]

please read what i have to say and don't say im "bootlicking" or whatever. did you even read the patch notes? it should kill in the same ammount of ACTUAL hammer strikes. this nerf was to try to balance the quick melee follow ups

[elder trout]

bro please PLEAAASSSEEEE do something about the healing ball things they're getting out of hand
personal opinion is heavy shouldn't have heals because it ruins the point of a tanky loadout and depending on teammates for support

[carmine orbit]

Why has my number been randomly changed from 17 to 35?

I miss 17

[exotic elk]

Please add in game lfg

[dark niche]

this is probably my favorite season...the new map plays & looks AMAZING & i love the new gadgets sm <3 specifically the heavy one i really like everything about it!!

[versed vault]

When can the medium get good things. The speed difference between the light and medium is a good difference but the medium and heavy speed is pretty close. Then the defibs still suck because not only do you have to wait to respawn you have to wait to use any ability. The gadgets are also bad. Thank god I can turn a goo wall into a smoke bomb.

[ocean shore]

go to settings>social>privacy and you can change it

[blissful bridge]

Who at EMBARK thought that "Ultimate Season Pass" was a good idea? I hope no one buys into it!

[olive plaza]

While the new map Citadel looks cool, I do wish it was available in more gamemodes outside of Cash Out. Power Shift and TDM especially since this would allow more people to experience what appears to be a cool map (I haven’t gotten it in like 10 Quick Cash rotations)

I worry that the new healing items may make heavy really hard to kill in certain scenarios, as it seems the new healing ball heals faster than one can deal damage, so that might need some ironing out

But I would really like to see the new map on Power Shift. You guys were able to put the gamemode on Vegas, so I’m unsure why it didn’t come on this map day 1

[stable raptor]

Why did you implant an "Ultimate" vwersion of the battle pass? It looks so awesome and i have the points to be able the buy premium but you make me spend an extra 30 for no reason? I love this game and I have loved it since season 1 but you keep making decisions that ruin the game for me. And also why are you making people be able to buy earlier battle passes? I thought the whole reason was to buy and unlock everything because it would never come back? Another thing is a while ago in season 3 I unlocked everything. Even the extra levels but yet you took them away from me such as the silver variant of the Descartes' Demon mask and the black version of the Valor Shift helmet. I remember playing that season the most and you took those items out of my inventory. Please respond to this because I am dissapointed and now i want to stop playing the game entirely.

[mossy fjord]

so whos with me joining the lack of 69 as an option as the contestant number protest! You just need to make 96 your contestant number. Go settings> social> privacy

[tropic idol]

New map is S-tier, well done team 🫡

[rough storm]

Buff CL so they are nuclear and wipe every light in the whole game with one bullet

[thorny apex]

Consider reworking h+ infuser to have more shots, lower firerate, lower healing, and instead of burning out then recharging give it a LONG reload. As it is currently at no expense to myself I can heal multiple times mid fight. Also if melee is meant to be any kind of viable all Melee weapons need a buff, especially the sword and the sledge.

[vestal prairie]

Add another 10 healing items to the game

[quartz cedar]

Embark it would be cool if you made anime face compatible with this hair, i got quite the shock when I equipped this hairstyle and saw this abomination (only gets SLIGHTLY better with anti aliasing + higher resolution, still looks horrible)

@gleaming sun Like I said, upping graphics barely makes it any better on certain hairstyles paired with anime face.
I tried 1440p res + AA and it still looks horrible.
If you check the red hair of the same version + anime face it actually looks allright. Clearly they have some work to do on some of the hairstyles, I am just letting them know. This does not look acceptable or up to Embark's Standards.

[wary flax]

Crazy to nerf Cerberus but not Double Barrel or Repeater, which were and still are insanely overpowered

[fervent dove]

Sledgehammer nerf is just pointless it doesn't make it more fun to fight and only makes it less fun to use.

Along with making it unusable in an match of equal skill

[vocal rampart]

I was just getting some huge frame dips on Seoul. Down to 30, never been under 120 before this last update.

[tall rampart]

remove ultimate battlepass please

[covert halo]

Not only is the hammer nerf unfun (quick melee combos are fun skill expression and I really don’t like them being taken away), Embark have said that they want melee to be viable, yet the only viable melee weapon was just nerfed so that it isn’t a top pick in competitive play. We’ll see how the hammer performs, it has only been one day, but please buff the other melee weapons especially dual swords spear and riot shield.

[cosmic oriole]

Buff medium heal beam, its pretty trash compared to the 2 new heal gadgets!!!

[wispy narwhal]

EMBARK!!!!! INCREASE THE AMOUNT OF SHOW TOKENS REWARDED PER MATCH AND MY LIFE IS YOURS!!!

[wise sparrow]

copied cod's horrible battle pass system
literally why? nobody wanted this

[ripe nacelle]

The repeater is not OP lmao. Get good

[undone pier]

WHY DID YOU NERF THE SLEDGE?!

[dim schooner]

The f? Im being kicked for no reason and after i am being suspended after rejoining? GJ EMBARK

[vast forum]

Picking up objects seems to have a bug where it won’t pick it up, just continue to reload

[distant topaz]

Guys, show token earn rate is wayy too slow. It's also buggy atm because it doesn't reward you with any if you play qp.

[somber crest]

EMBARK IM GOING TO MAKE THIS REALLY LONG BUT ITS REALLY IMPORTANT. CAN YOU ADD AN ACHIEVEMENT/MEDAL WHERE YOU GET A KILL BY THROWING THE HEALING EMITTER AT AN ENEMY! THANKS! IT WOULD BE A REALLY FUN ACHIEVEMENT/MEDAL TO THE GAME ❤️ ❤️ ❤️

[fringe mirage]

Sledgehammer → Was the only fair balanced melee weapon. You destroyed it. Now killing will take much more time and heavy does not have the same sticking power as a light. When even medium struggle, it's crazy 😂

Spear and Shield → i have not played them enough to properly talk about them, though, if you actually read some feedback of the ACTUAL user of these weapon, it's clear they have so many fucking problems.

Sword → Still do not understand the damage nerf up to this day when EVERY specialization can out dps you during a lunge. Now the time to kill require you to be a OTP of the sword to not just die to any contestant you meet. It's ridiculous. People tell you that if the spin2win is too much, then nerf THAT... instead of the damage output.

Dagger → Oh my... This is by far the worst melee to play, and you make it worse and worse. It's beyond comprehension.

You have the fastest movement character, yet, getting slower than the slowest character, at the moment it needs it the most.
Then, server makes backstabs inconsistent as fuck, (i did see some improvement within the last update in season 6, but i've heard it's highly dependent on the person.) yet, you nerfed the angle because the receiving end is louder than the 3 moron that actually plays the weapon.

You never see a dagger in matches, i never got outplayed by a dagger, because most of people using it will be a dude trying it out and understanding how dogshit the weapon is . Yet, it still get nerfed again and again. There are only a few people that do wish this weapon to be appreciated, and manage to make it barely work.

Overall, as a melee only player, the direction you are taking is awfull. It's worse than not being heard at this point, because the only changes there are into melee, are nerfs, nerfs, nerfs. Why even bother adding melee if it's to burry them deep underground until it feels useless to use ?

You don't want Quick melee combo, but even guns can do them. The amount of time a SNIPER killed me faster at close range than me with me melee, i'm just.... dumbfounded. Melee is now High Risk & No Reward.

It just put me off the game. Please, do hear constructive critisism of player actually playing weapon, instead of nerfing every weapon that random people that only complain of weapon they don't know how to counter.

(PS: There are a few ranged weapon i DESPISE playing against as a light melee player, like Double Bareel, Medium's grenade launcher, YET i can live with the fact these weapon are made to counter me, and i won't complain like other people for no reason.)
Please, consider adding a forum to post feedback on each individual weapon, where you could gather actual constructive critism and not some crybabies whine that don't want to counter a weapon and just want to see it being nerfed.

[turbid glade]

We need a "welcome back" as so many people need the VRs to come back as they dont qualify for new player status

[silver anchor]

and you cant but with with muilti bucks to add insult to injury

[iron jetty]

MAC SUPPORTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT and vrs to bucks conversion system

[tame shard]

Reset the balance of all weapons to their debut. Make the game feel fast paced again. And revert quick cashes changes. Go back in time and dont let any salty players ruin the fun.

[errant rune]

embark in the Damn!!! WTF new season the same shit... 3 sniper in power shift 3 pieces of shit of L with the sniper go to hell... gameplay like that......................

[surreal marsh]

yall release a new arena that is super difficult to get matched in during quickplay deathmatch, and also not available in power shift?? 🙃 🙃 🙃 come on finals, we all wanna try it, atleast make it the more likey map for the first 2 weeks instead of kyoto for the 24819042th time

[craggy seal]

will skins like VAIIYA ENCRYPTION come back in the old battlepass , because i don't see it on the S2 BP for some reason

[latent anvil]

Really disappointed with how legacy passes are set up. Yet another currency locked exclusively to match time with no other way to obtain it. 33 hours in match minimum to reach the equivalent of level 70 or so in S3 pass

Please make STs purchasable. They're for cosmetics.

[meager crater]

Bro def spams m11 and xp-54

[warm compass]

smoke nerf why ? they can see me while iam stealing and why the terminal meter time so fast in quick cash i only have one chance to steal please fix

[fathom aurora]

No one asked for heal balls or heal guns.... no one... stop trashing the game

[rotund gust]

why did you add target dummy voice to the crash test skin face but not the bullseye barry face which is literally a practice dummy 🤔

[wispy ivy]

buff literally every single melee weapon in the game, theyre all complete garbage right now

if anyone at all says no, remember that you yourselves have said that you WANT MELEE TO BE VIABLE

[mellow geyser]

Grenade launchers aren’t fun in a FPS. Why?

[marble hearth]

I think the hip fire is broken, it does not respond how it shoud. Why does the reticle get smaller when I move and get bigger when I stop moving?

[silk pendant]

Show token drop rate is unrealistic, 400 matches per battlepass, I have a life I need to maintain.

[rustic vault]

CL40 spam is a bit out of control

[cloud zodiac]

FR
Also I haven't won a game yet bc the matchmaking is cooked and I suck

[limpid dome]

heal gadgets on all classes is bad for the game

[raw briar]

GIVE US 69 AS A PLAYER NUMBER

[bold tundra]

This season is really showing that embark only cares about getting money from us and not making a good game, I’m extremely disappointed in this decision as someone who has been playing since beta wtf is a ultimate battle pass just to rerelease all the other passes for an extra price. It’s giving MONEY MONEY MONEY GIVE US YOUR MONEY ( I’m not saying stuff should be free but this is a ridiculous amount of cash grabbing)

[timid parrot]

100% especially all in the same damn update

[late hornet]

Please allow randomizing skins to only checked skins. If you got cool skins no one wants the basic red blue yellow white in rotation.

[vivid seal]

revert sledge nerf, buff sword and dagger, and do something with the other melee weapons

[timber gyro]

a team of people with 4x the amount of exposure to the game vs everyone else

i have 15k total elims. thats around 1200 hours in the game or somethign like that...

WHY am i facing people with 40k, 60, and 80K ELIMS???!!! its ridiculous... its quick cash, not ranked... im fighting almost top 500 players

[amber basin]

I'm with everybody else on this one, can we not do this cod style "Ultimate battle pass" bs we enjoy supporting you as it is, but nobody wants to pay $50 CAD for a hand full of cosmetics.

[ebon yacht]

Don't forget to update the Discord server banner 🙂

[fading sinew]

Embark,

We all spend money on your game. Fix your servers so we can play. What is going on in your workshop?

[deep sierra]

Can I get my rank points when I get kicked out mid game and can't reconnect?

[dense totem]

Consent is just a gesture

[zenith glen]

Charge and slam seems to be bugged. Moves very slowly at times

[fathom jetty]

i know this is getting drowned out by 100 sledge nerf complaints but i rlly hope embark sees and addresses this

[subtle ravine]

Embark,

I wanted to share a suggestion that might resonate with trophy hunters and completionists in the community. A dedicated or limited-time game mode focused on high cash-out opportunities. This could specifically support those working toward the “Deep Pockets” trophy, which requires a significant amount of cumulative cash to unlock. Maybe something already in the works 😉

Thanks again!

[ruby dew]

I was very exited for this new season since all past season 6 was shit ngl, you devs nerfing the sword down to the ground its crazy... but again, i WAS very exited for the sword to be buffed this season... I guess I'm still on waiting.
Thanks for fucking nothing.

BTW now we have an ultimate BP????
just like; give 'em a leg and they will pull ur leg... like common guys... i don't think there is a single player around here who hast support you yet, and now you trying to get more out of your loyal ppl?

@prisma elk lolllllll ok kiddo... you just as bad as the problem.

[gleaming sun]

The hair looks fine, ur graphics are set too low for these kind of hairs

[swift sierra]

Please revert the nerfs to melee
PLEASE
Its what made the game special

[tribal rampart]

Letting the healing emitter not bounce and instead stick to the surface it's thrown against, even ceilings and walls would be fun

[torpid ginkgo]

shitest season update ever

[young drum]

this shows nothing lmao. that's still ruby btw

[full lynx]

Odd... Twitch says I unlocked all the new drops, but I dont have them in my inventory?

[covert kite]

ive played the new map once out of 13 games now, and that one time was in progress i got to play 3 min

[rustic tinsel]

Do you even know what you mean by “increased usage”? It means everything else that was actually usable has been nerfed.It’s not like it just became OP and people started using it.
Stop fxxking nerf. You’re patching the game straight into the ground.

Even Reddit, a place that doesn't understand anything about game balance, is calling out the recent Sledge nerf.
That alone should be enough to tell you how terrible this patch was.

The only useful thing about the Sledge nerf is that it finally helped 'most people with basic human reasoning' realize how absurd the Sword damage nerf was.
Anyone who has tried using the Hammer after this patch knows it's completely trash now.
And that's exactly what happened to the Sword.

I’ve been saying this the whole time. Nerfing melee damage is the same as saying “don’t use it.”
Sword and hammer are melee weapon. It requires some form of high dmg output in order to compete with other weapons in close range.

I just want to clarify, I am not saying any of the weapons needs nerf. Others do what they are intended to do.
I just want MELEE weapon to actually be USABLE.
Fix the damage. Im tired of weapons getting nerfed simply because people dislike it(cause skill issue).

Yours literlly said,"we’re going to continue to monitor the Sword and explore some alternative changes that might allow us to nudge the lunge damage back up".And yet, there’s been zero follow-up. No balancing, no communication, nothing.
So the sword gets ignored for an entire season, and now you're targeting the sledge hammer instead?

Frankly, it’s getting harder to believe anything written in the developer notes. At this point, it feels like empty PR talk meant to placate players without any real intention of following through.

You must stop listening to nerf parrots.There’s no end to the nerf parrots’ whining. When something they wanted nerfed without any real balance reason(dislike cause skill issue) gets nerfed, they just move on to whine about the next thing.

[ember robin]

I wish they showed some love to the players who were there since day 1 like fortnite does

[lapis harness]

Agreed

[prisma elk]

wah wah wahh you're poor, get over it

[cursive plank]

it would be cool if this background actually had pop ups come in and out

[marsh torrent]

I'm 20 games in and have not gotten to see the new map 😢
World tour changing to be the whole map pool stinks at the beginning of the season

[little shell]

Can we get higher priority for the new map? Maybe one week where there's a 1 in 3 chance of getting the new map? With 9 maps in rotation, there's only 11% chance the map comes up. The new gadgets shake things up a bit, but with no new weapons and a map I can never play on there's barely any feeling of it being a new season.

[simple ether]

This season is worst than the last. Wtf is with this matchmaking? And kids lasering from across the map two tapping everyone? So much for "qUaLiTy Uf LiFe" huh.

[urban zodiac]

Please for the love of God add a 24/7 citadel game mode. I feel like I'm stuck in season 6 playing all these maps that I've played for the last 3 months

[young jetty]

Nerf spear, it is currently the best melee weapon in the entire game and it isn’t even close.

In powershift there is a diabolical meta of healing emitter, APS turret, and guardian turret. This means a heavy and medium can set up an incredibly powerful platform that glitch grenades are completely unable to counter. This is only including two players which mean if the rest of the team is medium that means 3 more turrets AND APS turrets which at that point is completely uncounterable. This is excluding all other placed gadgets and healing beam

[hazy skiff]

Buff sword to a more usable state, pls revert the dagger object damage, sledge nerf went a little overkill, save melee

[formal salmon]

not sure how I promtped this glitch but when i switched from one gun to the next as a medium my character kept reloading the gun over and over not really allowing me to shoot very much

[wraith igloo]

I’ve been saying this since s2 but always get drowned out by fans glazing them uncontrollably ‘cos look shiny skinz!’. Hence no game growth since day 1.

[pastel dune]

Hey, shiny skins is more than 99% of other games give. I like shiny skins

[steel marlin]

another person here asking to remove ultimate battle pass. best solution (even though theres a near 0% chance of this happening) is refunding anyone who bought it and giving every battlepass owner the ultimate cosmetics if they reach it for free and never doing this again. it is an incredibly predatory system and is made even worse with global conversion rates. THIS SHOULD NOT BE A THING.

[quick coyote]

it would be a cool detail if at the end of each match, scotty could say the name of the player who did the best on the winning team. something like “with the help of player name” or “all thanks to player name”

[muted plaza]

still lost rs when I didnt have a teammate lmfaoo, yall fixed jack shit

[cyan cairn]

Anybody else think that the volpe page was going to be all pink?? I kinda wished it was 😞

And please make the grind easier for the legacy passes. Bought season 1 and 2 but I literally could only buy one thing

Also NERF THE CL40.

[warm iron]

Charge n slam is bugged at the moment

[granite latch]

Yo this game sucks now, all these nerfs are not helping game state

[candid pilot]

you guys should nerf sledge again because it would be funny

[wraith orchid]

i dont know what this shit is. And i dont know if its good or not. im a decent player but not ruby level. im playing tdm and im constanly switching between bad teams where i got a 3-4 kd and ruby teams where i get a 1-1.5 kd. its literally switching every match

[slate mauve]

Include Bonus Pages in Legacy Battle Passes if you bought it during the season it was live.

And even if you didn't...who cares just add it.

[leaden basin]

Would love to see heavy hitters as a perm game mode ❤️

[junior wren]

the so called balance adjustment easily wiped the hardworking of hammer players

[trail hound]

Not sure if someone said this here yet, but Looking Glass and other Optics on M11 could be a nice refresh. Like the M60 does currently

[drifting storm]

Add new guns

[sacred siren]

If i get ultimate battle pass after I get the premium battle pass do I get the VRs refunded?

[old minnow]

Embark please stop smashing melee into the dirt

[small prawn]

just get rid of mediums shotguns at this point and give them more AR's

[plain escarp]

Looking Glass optic is STILL bugged on the Shak-50

[storm geode]

REMOVE LOW GRAV SPECIAL EVENT IT IS SO FUCKING ASS!!!!!!!!!!!

and fire your lead map designer, send him back to kindergarten lmao the new map is a horrid dogshit eyesore. are you even trying anymore????

[fading plover]

Add the ability to trade items without cost

[wicked saffron]

this season is going to kill the game

[errant crater]

this aint overwatch

remove all heals and defib

[versed hazel]

fun update

[simple quiver]

Why can we only do the bonus page for season 1? Let people who originally got it complete them

[hardy bison]

Sledge main here. The nerf was a complete skill issue problem. This makes niche players such as ourselves move into meta guns like the shak and m60. What do you think is gonna happen then, people who struggle with Skill Issues will complain about it and from what I’m starting to piece together. The devs will have a higher probability of listening to them and end up pleasing them. Next thing you know heavies will get nerf after nerf

[slender cipher]

Good to know the devs listened to a bunch of streamers that only use light because of how much glass cannon capabilities it has for a fast moving class, and use it as a content sponge rather than using any other class and nerfed the sledgehammer in engagements. If you are facing a weapon made to punish you for getting too close to it then wouldn't the logic be try to stay away? Like, seriously, sledgehammer didn't need the nerf to damage.

"This growth in effectiveness has also come with increased rates of negative sentiment from players on the receiving end of the Sledghammer, who feel they can never compete against it at close range."

Reward requires risk. Don't bend the foundations of what you have already built otherwise you will lose the playerbase touching this weapon and moving to the spear and the complaints will be a constant back and fourth, take opinions from all sides, not just the fact a weapon performing as it should is making people bash it negatively into the ground. I don't know what people expect when you point blank headbutt a sledgehammer heavy and then complain about dying to it.

And I know its lights complaining about the sledgehammer most of all because they feel like they don't have enough versatility when THEY ARE the most versatile class of all compared to medium and heavy in terms of kill and assist potential.

[trail prairie]

Why did they give the operator with the most Tanky build the ability to heal themselves when light and medium can only heal teammates? I get how op l and m would be but some sort of stim shot with a 1-2 second activation time or super slow regen would be cool. But no, give heavy an infinite healing ball and let them hide behind their dome shield while they get pocketed by a medium heal beam user…

[tropic haven]

this.

[queen dirge]

can I gift the ultimate battle pass? it only says premium

[ionic rampart]

whoever decided to put the lick as the melody to play on the Keybored weapon animation in the battlepass- i see you.

[atomic basin]

man cerb is broken what do we do... do nothing

[crisp heart]

Add hud safezone

[west raven]

matchmaking system is a piece of shit. I often join failed games or my teammates afk

[wide void]

CL-40 is fun and is balanced just fine. Please do not mistake CL-40's low skill floor for viability. It's completely outclassed by Medium's hitscan options when you can aim them.

also #BuffSword #BuffSledge #SaveMelee

[swift shuttle]

two suggestions:

1. can we get original vegas in world tour? I was incredibly disappointed when I saw it didn't seem to be there despite the patchnotes saying all maps are in
2. is the announcer (the one that we started hearing more of in heavy hitters) supposed to be this loud/frequent??? scotty, june, and the ambient monaco/seoul/TA announcers (who I'd honestly prefer to hear more of rather than these new lines, I miss hearing the tough shells wipe line more on monaco) are all getting drowned out by the guy and his lines (a number of which... aren't so great) are honestly starting to get grating
   s7 whips otherwise, thank u embark

[hallow epoch]

Ak needs it's bullets back, the hammer is perfectly fine now with its damage don't listen to he crybaby's cuz they know it was broken. Now to make it fair throwing knives are the real problem

[desert heath]

Embark i purchase the regular battle pass and to upgrade is still the same amount, fix it. make people who has regular pay less money to upgrade is obviosly not fair

[obtuse scarab]

https://youtu.be/fb2KVi9LROc?si=jlPntg2yGXw69Vhg

I think it would be a waste to not add the Smoking Guns tracks to the in-game jukebox

[brisk garden]

could we get a playlist for only the new map??? it's all i want

[hidden spire]

what the fuck is with this huge lag spikes cant even play right now, has this been addressed??

[crude cargo]

Yeah it's been laggy

[frozen tree]

So this season is really cool and has great music and theming. But then there’s also the $30 (not in multibucks) ultimate pass, the sledge nerf and the complete lack of buff to any melee weapons at all, the increased lag (again) and the loss of my inspiration to play this game.

My suggestions

1. Make the ultimate battlepass cost multibucks, and maybe reduce the price too
2. Buff sword lunge to 140, revert sledge nerf, increase backstab angle of dagger, make spear spin cancelable or increase damage, and I don’t really know what to do with the medium melees but buff them
3. Please improve the performance of the game, every major update I get more frequent and worse lag spikes every fight.

Thanks for reading this and I truly hope my feedback is used as it will help this game get back on track.

From CNS, With Love

[hearty hatch]

I dont even think sword needs 140 again. Melee just needs SOMETHING back. The nerfs were way too harsh.

[cold bolt]

wah wah embark pls turn the game into ARs only just like all the other fps games wah wah 😦

[craggy basin]

Make melee great again

[daring fossil]

ah yes, I love timing out queueing in my first game of the day just to then be forced to watch the vaiiya video (esc didn't skip shit) and then have the $42 ultimate battlepass shoved in my face. bold strategy cotton

[vast quail]

Melee nerf is a nuclear dub

[restive warren]

THANK YOU SIRE PLEAS GIB ME BACK FUNNY HAMMER BROOOM

[light plaza]

goo mines?

[versed dagger]

goo mines?

[neat forge]

The lag makes this game unplayable rn

[languid niche]

First off I would like to thank everyone at the embark team who worked on this update it is truly a piece of art we haven’t seen or experienced in a long time and is very much needed in the field of game development. I would like to address some things I hope to see in the upcoming updates.

Firstly, a limited time mode featuring the new map! I mean common I don’t think I should even be saying this, if you release new content make it as accessible as possible on release!

Secondly, make the healing emitter a cube rather than a ball. It is extremely hard placing this gadget on the run, the moment I drop it or throw it it either rolls off somewhere I didn’t intend or it goes out of the map. Please make it less bouncy and more stationary it honestly feels like a basket ball but I don’t want to dribble my way into a fight . Also put a ring around the AOE so we can see how close we need to get to get healed

Thirdly, you guys probably heard this the whole day today but the servers have been pretty buggy and I’ve been crashing a lot today unfortunately (PS4 SLIM).

Lastly, We got a chat box on console which is great! One step closer to becoming KBM compatible.

I deeply appreciate all the hard work you all put into this game, you guys are truly placing your mark in the gaming industry.

I’ll see you in,

The Finals

[brave flame]

PLEASE WORK ON THE PLAYER CARDS!! THEY LOOK AAAAASSSSSSSSSSSSS

If you guys go ahead to the contestants area, and click edit player card, you will see a pixelated, poor quality card that shows a poorly colored and, as ive said before, pixelated card containing your player, and some effects. It is honestly nasty, i do not enjoy looking at it, no matter how simple, i put the background, it is always ugly. Please improve the quality of them, thank you

[carmine orbit]

This is gross and toxic.
Kept harassing me the whole game.

[untold hazel]

peak

[tranquil galleon]

holy fucking lag

[hidden tree]

The hell they do with this update medium feels sluggish now wtf stop dicking around with medium dam it

[twin helm]

its hard to see why lights have 2 glitch grenades

[sand drum]

This is a brutal update. Each class used to have a place and now it just caters to lights. Why do they need healing? Why does heavy need healing? That was mediums specialty. So stupid

[undone pier]

I agree, please make melee viable again!

[wet badger]

I WISH i could change the colours of the teams and dont have to look at purple orange and pink. I wish i could customize it like black green white or something

[raw blaze]

peak

[dusty beacon]

Please increase the rate of Show Tokens given. At this rate I won't have it unlocked until Season 10. Getting maybe 1 per game and the games last like 20 Minutes?

[remote loom]

give us the 69 back embark, you cowards, let us choose the numbers we want

[frigid robin]

please please please can we select which gun skins we want in the deep shuffle bcaue my guns have so many colors they never pick cool skisn

[neon bobcat]

.

[long oxide]

free goo ship, also un nerf sledge

[ashen bloom]

Would be nice to see the main menu uncluttered. You can access things in multiple ways in the same menu would be a good idea to streamline it

[vale acorn]

How about a limited time game mode that has us directly queue for QC in Nozomi (or any new maps from here on out) exclusively? Just had ten games in a row before I even got a chance to try it.

[hushed hinge]

Embark: hope you enjoy our new map! ...but here's Kyoto 3 times in a row .. smhh

[full sierra]

hotfix the light heal gun its running lobbies rn

[past surge]

The sledge nerf feels fun to play against now, no more low effort boring heavy sledge spam. Thanks embark keep up the great work

[ashen grotto]

there are multiple isses with this update.

Firstly, let me adress the largest issue :

Healing-

Healing in this game was very VERY VERY strong and incredibly annoying. This was when medium was the only class with any form of healing, which had the opportunity cost of preventing him from running demat and forcing him to stand close to his team, not firing his weapon while healing at a moderate pace.

The introduction of both new healing gadgets breaks the game in 2 fundamental ways, each of them uniquely gamebreaking for their own reasons.

The healing ball on heavy gives players the ability to be healed without sacrificing player dps, you no longer have to have a player down during a fight when healing someone, you are permanently being regenerated. This is incredibly overpowered as a large portion of this game's weapons rely heavily on breakpoints to kill other players. The repeater has a respectable medium ttk because it 3 shots mediums. If a medium just exists within the range of a healing ball, he no longer gets 3 shot, which demolishes the repeater's ttk. This happens for any burst damage weapon, and doesn't even come with any downside. The heavy still gets to fire his gun just fine, he didn't even have to sacrifice winch claw or mesh shield to do it. That is obscene.

Now, the H+ Infuser. The H+ infuser heals a heavy from 1 hp to full in just about a second. If i have to elaborate as to how this is EXTREMELY broken and needs to be buried into the floor and never dug up again, respectfully, please get a different guy to do your balance.

Solutions to healing problems :

• The healing ball
  It's health should be absolutely nuked down to 40. It should die from getting LOOKED at too hard. Alternatively, it should have a 5 second deploy timer and it's healing should be interrupted for 1s anytime that a player takes damage while being healed by the ball.

• The H+ infuser
  This gadget should be reworked into a delayed-effect dart gun. It should fire a dart which embeds itself into teammates and does ONE of the 2 following effects :
  It triggers their passive regeneration to begin, which can be interrupted by gunfire as usual
  or
  After a 3 second delay, it heals a player target for 150 health.

Additionally, the infuser should have 2 of these darts in the gun, each taking 10 seconds to regenerate.

Now, to the other issues with balance.

• The goo gun nerf did not adress it's main issue, it's projectiles should not be able to collide with enemy players when fired, but it should receive a large buff to it's ammo capacity and utility in return.
• The famas is still incredibly offensive, it's practically a revolver that actually has range. Reduce it's mag size by 3 or reduce it's range by ~2m.
• Stop dancing around the bush with these weird ks23 "buffs". Give it pinpoint hipfire accuracy (or 110 damage) or do nothing at all, these are the 2 changes that could potentially render that gun viable.
• Light now has 3 mandatory slots in the current meta. You NEED to run gateway/infuser/glitch grenades in order to play the game. This will be fixed by the previously mentionned heal nerfs, but i just want to bring that to your attention.

[grave frost]

show tokens are insanely slow to get

[copper sentinel]

I just got stuck in Las Vegas sand bruh lost my whole ranked game

[supple mortar]

Why have you gutted sword, then added healing to make it even worse? Sword has an incredibly slow ttk rn, and healing on top of that just makes it impossible to kill anybody.

[strong canyon]

As someone who played the S7 Preview:
My framerate was significantly improved on Nozomi/Citadel, which is a highly detailed and complex map. I was hitting consistent 60-70 FPS (my framerate is capped), but now that s7 is actually out, I'm only getting my usual 40-60 FPS (60 only in good areas). This is a massive let down for me who always feels limited by my computer's performance.

[oak sorrel]

Give heavy a grappling hook /j

[royal spear]

Goo Gun Should be able to Goo players as it provides an extra skill ceiling for melee weapons as well as outplaying opponents. Do NOT take what little remains from the Goo Gun Mains. It's fine as it is, except for no longer stopping steals, as caccooning is much worse.

[brave copper]

No. Medium's specialty is not having a specialty.

[radiant reef]

Please, split the "Null Adornment" body paint between Face and Body Paint. I'd like to only use the face makeup without the rest around the body. It'd be a perfect alternative to the Somber Shade face paint. 🙏

[haughty totem]

how do you change your contestant number?

[turbid glade]

settings -> social -> privacy -> bottom option @haughty totem

[austere wing]

Don’t nerf metas. No game is perfectly balanced, and the finals will never be close to that. Don’t cater to the community. Study the statistics.

[umbral swift]

Suggestion: Penultimate Battle Pass ($10)

• "Unlocks" the 10 "Elite" skin levels
  • Still need to grind XP for the level like usual
• Does not unlock Premium track rewards
• Does not give 1000 Multibucks
• Does not give +20 Levels on the Battle Pass
• Does not give a 25% XP bonus for the season

Make Ultimate Battle Pass/Penultimate Battle Pass permanently available, not time-limited.

Balancing

• Sword
  • Revert Sword secondary to 140
• Dagger
  • Revert Dagger backstab to 180°
  • Bring back Turret/Goo backstab
  • Bring back charge slide
  • Bring back optional tap-to-backstab (eg, how Throwing Knives can tap or hold)
• Sledgehammer
  • Revert Sledgehammer to 115/200

https://www.reddit.com/r/thefinals/comments/1it1icj/comment/mdnd5tc/

Without getting too specific and writing a novel (melee viability and balance becomes a pretty big and varied topic very quickly), we definitely believe that melee needs some work to improve its viability and we’ll be working towards that over time, but I’m not sure we know exactly which specific changes we’d like to add just yet. We’re definitely open to suggestions here. We’ve always wanted playstyle asymmetry (i.e. very varied and different playstyles) to be a big part of THE FINALS. Melee weapons, Grenade Launchers, Flamethrowers and Assault Rifles are all valid parts of THE FINALS experience.
Melee changes since then:

• Sword: Gutted
• Dagger: Gutted
• Sledgehammer: Gutted
• Riot Shield: Bug fixes, nothing else
• Dual Blades: Buffed and still complete trash
• Spear: Buffed and still complete trash

[ebon igloo]

Petition to bring back Season 1 FCAR as long as the H+ infuser is in the fucking game!

[zinc palm]

I HATE YOU DEVS YOU GUYS ARE RUINING MY LIFE BY NOT ADDING A GATEWAY SKIN TO THE BATTLE PASS, YOU WANT MY FAMILY TO DIE YOU ARE TELLING ME THAT BY NOT ADDING THE GATEWAY SKIN TO THE BATTLE PASS. OR THE SHOP. I HOPE YOU ARE HAPPY.

[safe ginkgo]

Buff model and revert sledge nerf

[placid parrot]

Allow VRs to be converted to STs for legacy battle passes, this gives use to the currency mid season. This or buff the amount of STs you get and communicate how you are getting them, its very unclear as to how i’m earning these and it is also very slow to earn, with the most i’ve gotten is 3 after a full WT

[quick lichen]

Does anyone know what determines a tiebreaker? Just had a quick cash game that ended with all 3 teams at $10,000. As a side note, why don't we have ties in games? Cause if there's no obvious answer for why one team won over another why not just have everyone get a tie?

Edit: pink got 1st cashout orange got 2nd cashout and my team got 3rd cashout.

We got 3rd place. One of the enemy teams stalled so there wasn't a 4th vault.

[gloomy halo]

I knew before this drop that it was gonna break the game.These devs have no idea what makes a game fun and balanced. Also for people crying about melee: melee users should rot in hell.

[rapid rover]

You guys should add suppressors and under barrels just to give the game a little more depth I think a little more gun customization would go really far in terms of gameplay and style.❤️

[wispy ivy]

why is it always medium mains with the dogshit takes on melee, are yall just salty that your melee options are terrible or what

[lofty tundra]

last i checked it was whoever made the most recent cashout. so if your team won the third one and theres not much time left, stalling is a viable strat (makes the game go forever tho so)

[tropic snow]

Just make the ultimate rewards part of the premium battlepass without the 1k MB.
Asking 30 euros each season to collect every seasonal reward is a sly and shameful, hypocrite FOMO inducing marketing.
I can make peace with putting legacy battlepasses to the table for sale, even tho its spitting on the loyalty of players, but at ATELAST allow us to obtain the ultimate variant skins with MB.

[feral shard]

Day 17 requesting a Coin toss emote (only with "The Finals" icon, not a head or tails emote)

It will be a hand emote for the left hand (As every other hand emote) which tosses a coin (With a very satisfaction sound effect, like the ULTRAKILL's one) and then grab it in the air and the emote finishes

It would be so cool since, the enemies get coined, it would be a very gentle but cool flex

Hope Embark takes note of this, we need it in the game, I would pay for it

(Also, please add more hand emotes, I love them)

[wind sundial]

Let me punch it towards enemies and juggle it, then we happy

[jaunty tulip]

why does Xp-54 have the same DPS as AK and Fcar. light has nearly half the HP

[chrome glade]

the new firing range challenegs are really cool ! just please make the spawn location of the dummies and their pathing random ! it serves no point if i can memorize them after 5 or 10 tries

[ebon gust]

Im going to continue from where I left off earlier today.

The most common phrase I would say while playing in any game to my teammates was "Please finish my kills" because most "kills" from sledge, are either finishing a kill, or getting it started. Kills are rarely on his own because sledge is extremely poor at securing their own kills. This is because there are a plethora of ways for any classes to escape him, even from a winch; Demat, Goo Gernades, Jump pads, dash, and even lights mobility can out run a sledge. It all keeps him from getting a kill in close range already. So anybody saying they cannot compete with a sledge's damage in close range, is right. They should NEVER be able to out damage a sledge in his most advantageous position that he must work to get to. Instead, they should play differently, and run away and evade, rather than trying to duel the low mobility sledge. To say you dont have a chance against a sledge is ingenious because there are a plethora of chances to get away, and simply position to not be caught in the first place. As it should be, there is no chance to OUTDAMAGE a close range sledge.

Every fight with a good light looks likes this, I winch them and do a left click, and they they are able to dash away faster than I can quick melee. So, I then have to fire an RPG into them, and lose my only ranged option. I am effectively neutered against any other light, or evading player until I get my RPG back.

But I never once thought "That is unfair to me". I thought it was entirely fair because the heavy has a potential to still one shot the out of position light, if they are not fast enough to dash, and the sledge has to play the RPG combo if they want to finish the kill. That makes sense, that is fun playing with gadgets and the primary weapon. To remove that, is to remove player expression and fun skill based combat. Now every light kill requires an RPG instead of the potential of a quick melee.
There is more to say, but not enough space.

[slow condor]

How tf is there still no new map que?????

[jovial fossil]

Can this hair be more hidden with the Cindershade Shell hoodie, like it is with the zipless hoodie (second pic) please?

[olive fulcrum]

"Ranked Score penalty reduction system" will be abused by 'smurf' accounts partied up with 'main' accounts- smurfs will abandon a losing match to soften the blow to the main account they are boosting.

I understand it is almost impossible to prevent the loopholes of smurfing to boost main accounts. Just something to keep an eye on...

||Smurfs are bad people||

[slender girder]

I am once again asking for you to let us create a playercard per contestant. So we can drip that as well if we for example want 100% sponsor drip in all aspects and don't want to change our playercard every time you use that contestant.

Surprising that this hasn't been implemented yet.

[urban sandal]

Pls add tracers embark 🙏

[still rose]

custom animations for the cashbox when you throw it and hold it and inspect it would be so fire, and go pretty well with the sticker on it
also allow customization of the cashout skin

[quartz dirge]

nerf v9s

[unique wasp]

i implore you to reconsider giving every class strong sources of healing, the most unbearable part of early finals was how strong healing was
also buff sword and especially sledge, saying "we want melee to be viable" as you are literally in the process of gutting the only remaining viable melee weapon in the game is a bad look. I expect to be lied to (or at least hit with some mixed messaging) a little in patch notes, but really now. the game will not suddenly become esports friendly if everything unconventional becomes bottom tier.

[peak spire]

They should give the arn -220 the refelector scope

[tame abyss]

WTF happened to the netcode?
Everything feels either sluggish or laggy

And I get kills /killed around corners WAY more than I should

[wheat wing]

Please let us change the color of the contestant's eyebrows. 🙏 For a game that builds its money through customization, this is a small detail that would make a huge difference.

[tribal spoke]

Played 1 ranked cashout I can already tell you this heal meta ain't it

[slim bone]

Great job removing the battle pass FOMO. Now can we please address the sponsorship FOMO?

The idea of rewarding people for "loyalty" is great, but the current system doesn't do that. Right now, it is "re sign with us and get 'rewarded' by being able to unlock the same stuff the other sponsor(s) are giving out for first time signees"

It doesn't make sense lorewise/thematically, since you'd think they would want to be actively encouraging people to resign with actual cool new stuff, and encourage other people to switch to them by not giving them last round's leftovers.

It doesn't make sense IRL either. As new sponsor get added, each sponsor has to wait longer and longer before its their turn to be re-ran. And if they show up more than twice? Then someone wanting to sign for them the third time has to wait even longer before actually unlocking the stuff that they thought looked cool. The problem will only get worse with more sponsors like if Volpe or Trentila get added as sponsors.

Players are just left with choices of either sponsors whose offerings they don't like, or can't actually get the new shiny things because they're stuck on the first sponsor track of the other.

Like for example, last seasons wasn't a fan of Ospuze or Alfa-Acta's stuff, but thought the Engimo weapon skin was stunning. Too bad I didn't sign for them the first time around because I can't actually get the cool weapon skin, I need to do their first track. So to actually get that weapon skin, I need to wait for Engimo to rerun again and just hope they're not up against new sponsors offering stuff for whatever cool thing gets added in their season.

Or this season. I didn't sign with Vaiiya because their weapon skin was too bland, I went with Dissun. Here comes CNS with a color scheme I really am not a fan of, but it doesn't make sense to go Vaiiya either because then I can only get the Cerb weapon skin that A. I already have one for, and B. I didn't like the first time it came around anyways!

Loyalty rewards should be actual bonus content on top of the basic sponsorship track. A system like the new legacy BP thing could be in place, so players could actually get both the new season's stuff as well as the older offerings. The loyalty extras could be seperated from this like the legacy BP.

[proper tiger]

I'm loving the gameplay as a new player so far. Specially I'm trying out the ray tracing features and it's amazing and well optimized

[sick owl]

i would be ecstatic if that happens! !!

[fair ingot]

How the fuck is CL40 doing more damage when it supposedly got nerfed

[still ore]

Is there any reasons why the shak50 animations bundle got removed?

[gaunt hare]

Got some bugs when you shoot it idk
Just got removed before the last update

[fierce valve]

Game just feels bad now. Sledge feels bad. Game bad.

[sonic spoke]

Shooting doesn't feel right. Sledge is still great. Not as awesome, but still awesome!

[modern grail]

I have a feeling this healing meta is gonna gut the shit out of powershift

[near silo]

You guys have some SEREVE survivorship bias when it comes to balance, and its clearly shown by how you balance Melee.

The problem is not that melee does 'too much damage' its that new/bad players dont know and struggle to understand how to counter it, and that there are issues with the amount of, and how usefil/widely applicable, the tools that 'counter' the melee playstyle.

Players struggling to keep melee players away? Buff movement items with lower cooldowns, buff mines(an explosive mine buff would of countered sword) or introduce knockback grenades/mines that blast players back. Players struggle indoors against melee? Buff destruction items so that they activate faster when on walls, give them more ways to block off doorways or wides for space or give items like gravity cube an alt-fire that increases gravity as a slow effect.

Heres a different example that doesnt use melee just to make it easier to understand: Players find items like Winch claw hard to play against. So, instead of nerfing range? Remove the 'stop velocity' and the 'no target movement' stage of the winch claw, so instead of bringing people right in front of the winch claw player, it instead 'flings' the target in the general direction of the winch player. It gives the target more agency as they can now slightly move themselves 'mid flight' and it gives the winch claw player more ways to mess with the target (enviro kills, displacement) and gives more utility with arena objects.

[rocky plover]

If Embark wants to nerf the Sledge, Atleast tone it to 110 on the Light Swing so the combo can kill lights , Tone the Heavy Swing to 175 so it’s still possible to kill heavy’s with 2 perfect swings

[frigid horizon]

Embark I beg of thee
Explain how console players can type in chat cuz I've looked and there's literally no button promt at all (also just add MnK support already bruh, fucking minecraft has it)

[untold venture]

ligh heal SMG is absolutely busted, don't get me wrong i love going from 20hp to full in less than 1 sec as a heavy main but uhhh it definitely isn't very balanced

[queen urchin]

Day2 of revert sledge nerf requests

[stark pilot]

The core logic behind constantly nerfing close- to mid-range one-shot weapons is because over 80% of players just blindly rush into buildings and get smashed to death. Unless you're playing seriously and making it to the final rounds, you're not going to remember which team is using what skills or weapons. You have no idea what weapons your opponents are holding, so in order to gain that information, you’re forced to charge in no matter what you’re playing.

The scoreboard should have shown what skills and weapons players are using a long time ago.
If you see an enemy with a sledge and a flamethrower, then don’t go in. If both your teammates are running close-range weapons, don’t die on the rooftop.

Embark has based the core logic of casual play on something like opening blind boxes. How can you possibly balance these close-range one-hit-kill weapons?

Pro players know how and what information to gather, so it's naturally easier for us to deal with sledge, cerb, sword, dagger, and flamethrowers.

But for someone who plays maybe one or two games a day, how could they possibly remember all of that from just one match, and instantly react correctly in every fight?

[compact ore]

Lights healing beam is busted, now its best class in the game

[gilded breach]

Can you please let us choose the random skins we can get ?

[rustic tinsel]

Do you even know what you mean by “increased usage”? It means everything else that was actually usable has been nerfed.It’s not like it just became OP and people started using it.
Stop fxxking nerf. You’re patching the game straight into the ground.

Even Reddit, a place that doesn't understand anything about game balance, is calling out the recent Sledge nerf.
That alone should be enough to tell you how terrible this patch was.

The only useful thing about the Sledge nerf is that it finally helped 'most people with basic human reasoning' realize how absurd the Sword damage nerf was.
Anyone who has tried using the Hammer after this patch knows it's completely trash now.
And that's exactly what happened to the Sword.

I’ve been saying this the whole time. Nerfing melee damage is the same as saying “don’t use it.”
Sword and hammer are melee weapon. It requires some form of high dmg output in order to compete with other weapons in close range.

I just want to clarify, I am not saying any of the weapons needs nerf. Others do what they are intended to do.
I just want MELEE weapon to actually be USABLE.
Fix the damage. Im tired of weapons getting nerfed simply because people dislike it(cause skill issue).

Yours literlly said,"we’re going to continue to monitor the Sword and explore some alternative changes that might allow us to nudge the lunge damage back up".And yet, there’s been zero follow-up. No balancing, no communication, nothing.
So the sword gets ignored for an entire season, and now you're targeting the sledge hammer instead?

Frankly, it’s getting harder to believe anything written in the developer notes. At this point, it feels like empty PR talk meant to placate players without any real intention of following through.

You must stop listening to nerf parrots.There’s no end to the nerf parrots’ whining. When something they wanted nerfed without any real balance reason(dislike cause skill issue) gets nerfed, they just move on to whine about the next thing.

[white anchor]

No reload to learn recoil and no cool down for class spec and gadgets for fun ONLY in practice server
The grapple hook keeps pulling u in a wall unless u cancel it but it would be better if u could stick to walls for a few seconds and u can aim and shoot but it's for a limited time to avoid camping,maybe even a wall jump from the wall u grappling to.

🔥flamethrower should set non object areas on fire (setting grass on fire isn't helpful) but u have to keep firing at that area for a long tim using 8ammo ,it's more of a defensive option as u r busy firing areas rather then enemies,also the flame range should increase the more u continuously keep firing.🔥

The 93r time between burst is weird and not fun to use,make it so there isn't a gap or less time gap between burst and u can slightly nerf damage since u r increasing fire rate but the damage fall out is longer so there is a balance since due to recoil u can't spam it long/medium range.

V9S spam tapping disrupts normal aim movement and has no benefit and zero reason to pick over xp and M11,so to make it better it could have almost perfect close medium range hipfire accuracy even while moving then slightly reduced fire rate to make it count and it would be a unique niche cause at least it's accurate while moving where most weapon r not.The spam tapping v9s is unnatural and may have good stats on paper but almost no one in the lobby uses.

Ks23 needs a headshot buff 1.2x and a slight increase in projectile speed.

Breach charge should break smaller holes in walls so lights can minimise exposure that large destructon has right now, because u have 3 charges u can still make bigger holes.It should still stack damage.

[pliant tulip]

i have no idea if other people are experiencing this issue that i am. but for some reason on the new map, the longer the match goes on the worst the frames get over time. i so far have two clips where i go from 140 frames. to 60. then to 40, and to 20 and eventually to 11 frames where it becomes borderline unplayable. and its kinda bad considering the new map seems to be the only map i'm getting on Ranked at the moment.

[torpid quarry]

Buff charge N slam, nerf infuser cooldown time

[static latch]

sledge's viability was earned through commitment to melee, requiring good positioning and GOOD game sense. Seeing the main qm combos being diluted because some players “feel” they had no chance is irritating embark. Of course they “had no chance”-- they let a melee player get in range. That’s the whole fucking point of melee, don't.

ive supported this game since release and have spent a LOT of money on it, you are destroying melee one by one. Dagger, Sword, and now Sledge, possibly the most popular, fun and well known melees in your game. We are the consumers , and youre treating us like garbage..💔

[drifting topaz]

• NERF CL40
• NERF HEAL GUN

[cosmic eagle]

nerfyo momma

[warm compass]

buff smoke iits usless now they can see me through the smoke easily and why quick cash terminal timer so fast only one chance to steal ?! why all classes have healing no balance at all

[rotund gust]

'added aim assist to gadgets and deployables ie turret to reduce frustration'

I don't know anyone who has ever been frustrated that they can't hit a static turret. I don't know why you keep pulling out this word frustration when it's not based in reality.

You know what will be frustrating. Having a heavily defended room full of gadgets and deployables and assuming aim assist is 0.4 having a 60% reduction to ones sens, because the entire line of sight of the room is activating aim assist slowdown.

Things like this Embark are why having a toggle on/off setting is essential. It's frustrating that you never seem to do that 😑

Also no thanks for MnK in 7 seasons which was said by multiple devs it was coming and was in natively at launch, but removed, because you thought noone wanted it 🤡
I love seeing all the MnK themed cosmetics in the game 😍

*edit it actually doesn't seem as bad as I thought lol, but options are still good

[west raven]

Change the game name to THE LIGHT

[junior wren]

i like this feedback

[marsh pond]

make drill charge destroy goo pls

[high wing]

SEASON 7: MAJOR DISAPPOINTMENT

Core experience is flawed. The new €30 Battle Pass tier proves player experience is secondary to monetization.

Still Missing Basic Features:

No In-Game Profiles (standard in FPS).
No Match History (essential online).
No Personal Stats (classes, weapons, specs, gadgets).
No Community Stats (trends, data).
No Ping Indicator (basic necessity).
No Direct DMs (limits social).
Poor Friend Status (game time, round).
No Clear Numerical Weapon Stats.
No Ranked Solo Queue.

Critical Unresolved Issues:

Unfixed Netcode (persistent issues).
Unreliable Hit Reg (frustrating).
Broken Audio (bugs, impacts awareness).
Poor/Shallow Balance (stale, no depth).
Horrible Matchmaking (worst RS-system, unbalanced teams).

Monetization & Priorities:

No Local Shop Pricing (ongoing issue).
Greedy €30 BP Tier: Shows monetization over core gameplay while issues persist.

[steel forge]

Get rid of this new battlepass tier, don't make the apex legends embark pls ty

It's literally a perfect addition, that you can play now every battlepass until season 5 (yet), but in my opinion it doesn't justify a now 30€ battlepass tier, which slightly changes the appearance of already available skins in the premium battlepass

[dim tangle]

Please add it to where I can press enter on my keyboard to chat on console y’all added the thing finally and I have to use my controller to prompt it open which is slow and inconvenient

[primal frost]

Please revert the sledgehammer nerf

@gray tundra you can do that in the outfit menu

[indigo pagoda]

Sledge nerf was overkill, lights now dominate heavies with the double barrel

[polar saffron]

When using the Valkyrias embrace emote, can you make it hide the back and red wings cosmetic so it actually looks like the wings you're already wearing opened up instead of having two sets of wings that look weird? Also please fix the bug where if you open the text chat and press escape the text box stays on screen until you press enter twice.

[pseudo latch]

EMBARK WHY CANT WE EMOTE WHILE NULLIFIED?!

GENUINELY A CRIME WE CANT!

[fallow gust]

1. Please add the option to preview how the animation will look on the player card before buying it

2. Right now, everyone sees their own character in the center at match start. It’d be great if everyone saw the same thing — that way, being in the center would actually feel meaningful.

3. Please add a way to see how many kills you’ve made with each weapon.

4)Would be great if the intro showed some player stats — like how many kills they’ve made with their current weapon, or their average kills/deaths. Maybe show it under the center character only, or even under everyone. Even better if it’s customizable.

5. Please add an option to see your ping.

6. I think it would be cool to add a light upgrade system for abilities or weapons — nothing too extreme. For example, Light’s dash could have two upgrade paths: one that gives you an extra charge (so 4 instead of 3), and another that lets you dash through walls once every 30 seconds. These upgrades could unlock at certain ability levels. I believe this kind of system would make builds more interesting and encourage players to experiment with different combinations.

[kindred crypt]

i would just like to say i've played for like 4 hrs tonight and i havent played on the new map once kinda crazy lmfao

[keen glen]

Need a playlist for the new map alone. played for 7 hours today and only got it twice. That map is a masterpiece and needs a 24/7 mode

[hallow birch]

The hate this game is getting in season 7 is on whole another level, love it

[fleet quiver]

I don't have any feedback necessarily but both the sponsor tracks are doo doo thanks embark

[languid ibex]

Why did you add healing GADGETS to rival a medium SPEC? Considering turret is rubbish and heal beam isn’t unique you’re forcing M to play Demat. But you’re also adding a destruction gadget to M? Does this make any sense?

[cold bolt]

remove any good source of burst damage (melee, shotguns) then add more heals to the game, brilliant move embark

streamers will stop at nothing until the meta is yet another fps with a monotonous AR/SMG/DMR landscape, no rock paper scissors here only 30-50m poke gunfights 👍 hope your $100k tournament fails to bring in players after they see ppl playing the same way every other fps plays but with some environment destruction

[signal cosmos]

Slightly increase the placement range of the Breach Drill (~1m) and make the placement of it a bit more forgiving. My main issue with it is that it doesn't always place even though it's glowing blue.

[gray tundra]

Can we get an option in the store/contestant menu so I can try on multiple pieces of outfits without having to swap and own them

[gilded sparrow]

We need a cheaper version of the ultimate Pass without extra Multibucks or free BP levels. I would gladly spend 15 or 20€ but 30€ is a whole AAA game on sale.

[sterile patrol]

As a heavy main, sledge nerf sucks and the new update is dog water! The new map looks nice, but I had to play 3h to get it once.. reselling seasson1 BP is scummy, the new 30euro BP is a joke...fix your servers too!!!!!

[vivid seal]

STOP listening to streamers and "pro" players embark

[twin helm]

how have we let the db be as op as it has all this time

[rancid cloud]

2 points for 6th place in World Tour? Cashout sucks as a mode already, why does it take so long to rank up in WT

[signal basin]

Update after patch S7 :

General feedback
Embark, I bought the Ultimate BP . To support you guys, really. But to be honest, from my POV, the price is to much high and should be able to buy IG not by bundle. 20€ Will look more fair if you can regain it in the BP.
Looks like your hire someone in charge of monetization from Respawn. I bought it this time. Not sure I will do it every seasons.

🎲 For the game 🎲

• In pratice game, let us fight between friends (or not !)
• Why in WT, lose in final round against a tri-stack squad when I'm playing solo ?
• Add "step" in the reload animation so when you climb on something during a reload, it's not completly reset.
• Add a report option " Sabotage " in the report section in game please.
• Let us choose our sight weapons at the beginning of a game
• Delete low gravity event. It's not fun AT ALL
• Random skin and charm list for weapons/gadgets. EDIT : Thanks for the random skin weapons, but can we not just choose multiple skins and randomize them for the next step please ?
• We shouldn't lost point in ranked when a team mate leave the squad and didn't play during the round
• Let us invite friends or join them in group even if we are not the group leader
• Add the possibility to look at the profil/card of friends and recent players.
• **Give us the possibility to customize rules in private match. Like "only M and Dual Blade", "only Light and SR84", "only marksman", "No heal, Light only and grenade only". You can imagine all you want and put it in private match for streamer and their community to make the game more fun **
• Add all the random or Unreal crash to all of this.

**⚖️ For balance ⚖️ **

• The Heavy heal... For all the squad ? Without limit in time or HP ? For a class with shield, barricade and 350 HP ? Embark... please.
• **Revert your XP-54 nerf **
• Nulifier is just useless right now. Offer invincibility to the ennemy ? Really ?
  Rework : When you get it by the "Taser" your recoil is increased but you can still move as you want and your take 5 dmg/sec by the electricity. Can hit multiple target like the lock bolt.
• REVERT CL40 BUFF. Medium spam this without dying and destroying the fun in your game
• You shouldn't be able to right clic sword + dash
• CB01-Repeater is just stupidly OP. Nerf the damage
• Rework Vanish Bomb and make it start regen instant. It will increase survability for the Light and it can be use for your teammates too !
• Nerf Turret range.
• Nerf proximity sensor range
• Reduce the radius of the reflect of the Dual Blade or let us shoot in the feet or something else to let us counter DB when you got an AR
• Nerf the range of the KS shotgun. You can put 100 dmg at 20m.
• Nerf PIKE to 48 dmg instead of 50 dmg.
• Revive and Objectives score should add additional points in ranked
• Rework defib: Reduce the cooldown reset to 5s and give 100HP instead of 50% of your HP. It will force Medium to revive more safely !
• Rework Sonar : Scan 5 times instead of 3 but if you don't move it can't scan you
• Winch and lockbolt shouldn't do damage. It's strong enough, to not make damage

** 🛜 Servers problems 🛜 **

• Improve your netcode / tickrate or I don't know what ! 50% of my dash behind cover make me die anyway because your game can't register itself !
• Flamethrower and hook should NOT get you through walls, doors and more.
• Sword, dagger, dualsword or all other melee weapon feels unfair when you think you're out of range and die anyway.
• Flamethrower is bugged. You can hit people without being in the range.

Oh and ping me as much as you want. I will not answer. You will never say anything much accurate than the META.
And the META is full of Medium and Heavy. Not Light. That's fact.

I will always post this now and add some changes time to time.

[peak forge]

The Finals Practice Range Challanges.

These bots are too easy even on Hard in Big Box. In the real game by the time Bot even react to you, real player would have already do 10 direct hits and 20 dashes away.

Big Box Arena too small, have not enough variety in cover and bots too stupid to practice something like running away from enemy, or chasing him.

They seemengly can't path find to you when you stand on any of the black boxes.

This is pretty cool concept, hopefully it is going to be improved in the future.

[gleaming gust]

honestly, giving healing abilities to heavy and light mightve been the dumbest thing that could have been added. it makes the gameplay so much worse and makes mediums useless

[smoky sluice]

s2 diamond background when?

[granite latch]

This is the worst BS I've seen in my entire time playing this game. WHOEVER you have in charge of the gamestate hasnt the slightest clue in the world wtf they are doing. You are letting these people ruin a great game that community believes in. Stop slobbing on streamers and pro players and play your own damn game. Actually see what you run into and how the game feels. Look at actual numbers. Stop buffing the same damn class every season. Look up the definition of balance. THEN make things balanced. Medium has been a joke of a class throughout almost the entirety of this game and you continue to beat it dead and now heavy??? If you want every player to be a light main wtf did you make three classes? Remove them from the game so we can all play mouse hunt like idiots. The game was good 24 hours ago. DO something before you ruin everything you've built. Your real community is bigger than some lame ass streamer stop bending over backwards for them. Put down the oil

[edgy glen]

Its completely beyond me why they would keep adding healing items to this game, every class shooter I've played is considerably worse because of healing.

Its a class/role no one wants to play, but often ends up as being essential, it drags out fights and creates pointless frustration.

If I deal damage equal to an enemy's health, I WANT THEM DEAD, I'm not going to bitch and moan if I die when I take enough damage to die c'mon.

The only real argument for healing is that you dont have to wait for regeneration and can get into the fight much faster, but a lot of the healing is so slow that you have to wait for regeneration anyway and you could just tweak regen to work better.

[sterile canopy]

This seems quite an odd thing to say to me because it just doesn’t line up with what’s been happening. The game is not being balanced around “pro” players. Medium has never been a joke of a class, the only one you could argue that for historically would be light at certain points.

[faint saddle]

Season 3
Dash nerf by 1 second (mandatory and killing option on dagger)
Multhi hit remved

Season 4
Dagger rework was 4 net nerfs

Can no longer sprint to stab
Slowed down for even pressing alt fire
Charge time nerf from 500ms to 800ms
Can undercharge failstab now cause you cant "tap stab" like the TKs

Seeason 5
Angle nerf 150 degrees

Season 6
Dmg buff doesnt compensenate for the Backstab nerfs what the weapon is designed for

Season 7
Can no longer oneshot goo/turrets etc, which is a mandatory thing with goo playstyle etc, now we need to BUTTER KNIFE goo blobs 5 times to destroy them

THIS GAMES BALANCING IS AWFULL

I FUCKING HATE THIS GAMES DOGSHIT BALANCING TO ENFORCE ARS ONLY AND GUT MELEE WHILE PROMISING MELEE VIABILITY

[versed gull]

When the entire enemy team puts down two barriers and a heal ball and hides in the corner all game it makes team deathmatch unplayable

[tired wolf]

half of this makes no sense
"Revert your XP-54 nerf "
how bad can you possibly be to think the xp-54 is bad atm
Please embark stop listening to everyone. No wonder the game gets bad

[sage turtle]

Servers down again?!

[polar shell]

FFS EMBARK GIVE ME PAID CONTENT BACK OMFG... bad enough you make old BP's worthless, now you actually STEAL PPL's CONTENT!!

[turbid coral]

Since this update makes every class able to heal some weapons like the bow are because of all the healing just not viable anymore. tbh i would really like the bow get some love.

[short sand]

(By dahnaa)
sledge's viability was earned through commitment to melee, requiring good positioning and GOOD game sense. Seeing the main qm combos being diluted because some players “feel” they had no chance is irritating embark. Of course they “had no chance”-- they let a melee player get in range. That’s the whole fucking point of melee, don't.

ive supported this game since release and have spent a LOT of money on it, you are destroying melee one by one. Dagger, Sword, and now Sledge, possibly the most popular, fun and well known melees in your game. We are the consumers , and youre treating us like garbage..💔

[tame crag]

I like the removal of FOMO, though I had the battle passes I think it was a good change.

[raw bobcat]

PRACTICE ARENA SUGGESTIONS!

• If you are with your teamate of friend that you can 1v1 you friend in a arena box
• That other players can create maps and difficulitys of a map and where the dummy spawns and change waves and also share to other people

Thx embark you cooked with this update!

[finite siren]

Buff dagger 😡

[coral axle]

can we get a mini campaign like 1-2 hours long?

[old viper]

does anyone feel performance drop after season 7 update? i usually got 90 fps, but today it fall down to 30 fps

[rare adder]

Just a short feedback about sledge nerfs: it was fun and viable before, with its own strategy and play style. I don’t want to watch Stockholm’s tournament where everyone’s load out is just guns. Please revert the change

[pale adder]

I dont think the recruit a prospect thingy is working out to well. People that load up the game for the first time would have to join the discord right away in order to find a coach. I have never joined a discord before playing the game a bunch maybe others are different but i am not sure

[deft dew]

What's the point of having Coins you use for respawns, if you spawn 170meter away from the objective you're defending?

[sullen girder]

i have beein playing for 2 days still did not see any new map, is it a scam?

[remote herald]

same for me

[vale acorn]

we're so close to having a full on pvevp zombie mode, add some lore and have those bots go haywire and invade a pvp match to mix things up

[storm tide]

Make melee great again, make nukes as a part of game, goo flight, add bunch of cool unexpected features, buff weak weapons instead of nerfing them, and U will have fun game, and not just game for faming level or grinding rank and wt(which I think should give more point like(10 - lose, 20 - mid loose, 50 - win), same with non ranked but multiply by 2)

[shell jacinth]

Nullifier is absolutely useless 🤦🏾‍♂️might as well keep it gone

[static pulsar]

I'm being so serious right now; make light unplayable, every game I join there's a light which uses some copy & pasted meta build, it ruins the game, it makes playing for fun impossible in the casual game modes it's literally an abomination. I can hardly even have fun trying to grind & level up anymore, before this I could laugh & have fun now it's just staring as a screen like what the heck is even happening rn as everybody in the lobby throws something, and all these lights dash in constantly killing each other & never actually getting the objective or helping their teammates, they prioritize killing others & statpading, they go solo & they don't ever help or stick together.

[rustic vault]

The new practice range section is great. Would be cool to see a little leaderboard with your friends/club, global would probably be a bit pointless with cheaters existing.

Could be formatted like: ‘name - time - class - weapon - season’

[slate vessel]

The ultimate price is a bit too expensive please reduce the price I'm not paying extra just for purple versions of the skins

[cyan narwhal]

if my teammate has left the game i should have the option to leave the game without penalty

[thick sorrel]

goo gun steals are the most annoying thing since nukes. fix goo cancel immediately!

[hard shoal]

I'm experiencing frequent spikes in frametime in games, often reaching 40-80ms, with a corresponding drop in frame rate to 10-20fps. However, my GPU and CPU rendertimes remain unchanged at 3-4ms. I'm unable to determine the cause of this problem.
PC Specifications

• GPU: RTX 5070
• CPU: R7 7800X3D
• RAM: 64GB

[next flame]

After seeing your balance changes suggestions, no doubts you’re light main who is neither a quick cash warrior or silver 1 hard stuck in ranked

[atomic crow]

how about every half a season let us see usage charts for weapons and classes so that we can understand the meta and reasoning behind nerfs and wont go balistic like with the recent sledge nerf

[shy fox]

😔 let us start private matches by ourselves

[sterile tendon]

I didn't even take the Premium one... Will spend my multibucks on whatever that doesn't tie me to grind stuff out.

The less I'll play the easier it will be to stop playing the game in the long run.

Most likely I won't be throwing money again into the game unless they rethink their strategy (which won't be happening because there are people who already paid for that overpriced spoc.

[tidal yoke]

totally agreed, sledge is a mele on the slowest, most big class in the game, that have only 3 movement gadjets, goo grenade, barricade, grav cube(all of them are mid in providing mobility) the sledge is SUPPOSED to be OBSOLETE in CQC that the whole reason of it, yes the was problem with whinvhclaw which is disgusting spec that shouldn't have been added in the first place, but the sledge itself was totally fine...
THEY BRUTALLY KILLED sledge making a flamethrower more viable in CQC, because some players “felt that they cant do anything on cqc against it” DUUUUUUUUH, IT IS HOW THE MELE SHOULD WORK, be stronger that any ranged weapon in point blank range. what are these reason embark....

[quartz dirge]

nerf heal smg but keep it good
rebuff sledge, nerf winch (winch was the issue not sledge)
buff healbeam
buff akm mag size
buff m11 min damage fall off range slightly
revert xp54’s last nerf, instead actually focus on nerfing the range
buff lewis
buff mesh
rework light specs to not be reliant on enemy skill for effectiveness also either fix or remove thermal vision
buff turret
add special interactions to robot mommy skin iykyk
uhh that’s it also nerf v9s

[tropic snow]

Why keep making these inconsistencies?

[sick pier]

Hard agree

[pulsar jay]

yeah ultimate is way too much

[tacit whale]

Add 00 to the player numbers

[fringe hatch]

There is just in a ridiculous low rate pull

[shrewd echo]

The Heavy balls are amazing, especially in a gun fight.

[dusky seal]

that season 1 supporter banner is so sick!! thank you embark 🙏

[bronze grove]

need some more pop-ups and videos after game, maybe add some adds?

[burnt linden]

need 1 who tryna run it

[tender belfry]

Revert sledge change it’s actually the worst nerf this game has ever had

[quick coyote]

Is it me or is aim assist kinda broken rn also why do y'all keep forcing us ads really other games aren't even like that🫩

[mortal notch]

AA lingers on dead body’s for a while for some fucking reason

And they added AA to turrets and stuff

Part of the reason I play with half the settings off

[royal gust]

Buffing light is destroying this game and reducing the playerbase. This will impact the game economically.

Even tho most light players statistically buy more cosmetics and that is the fact why Embark now focuses on the playability of the light, this just works out in a negative way in the end.

Short term you will earn some but long-term people will quit this game. Light is too OP and heavy becomes unplayable and just horrible to play.

Nerfing every weapon on heavy and now sledge is the dumbest thing you guys couldve done.

Dont let money be your sole driver to push changes in this game. Stop destroying this game by your money driven mindset and start buffing heavy and nerfing light.

Reduce the sledge nerf a little too. There’s no reason this should be done. Prohubs players have the best aim and positioning skills in this game and they cant win against a non-range weapon? Outrageous. The arguments for the nerf are also low quality. Just because statistics say something doesnt mean it tells the whole picture. I doubt at this point that the persons in charge of balancing even have a university degree? You should know statistics don’t tell everything. Also for melee players they feel weak at range. Maybe start nerfing ranged weapons? Since this works the other way around ad well.

[rustic tinsel]

You literally said,"we’re going to continue to monitor the Sword and explore some alternative changes that might allow us to nudge the lunge damage back up."And yet, nothing?

Is there really any reason to delay?Sword and sledge were fine. They were never meta even before the nerf. They only showed up occasionally in WT and Ranked. Anyone playing just one match could see that.The fact that only a few use these weapons means the weaker players dropped off and only the skilled remain. Of course, skilled players perform well.

There are many examples of games ruined by listening to Reddit, self-proclaimed pros, and scrim groups who follow their own rules, so why are you trying to follow that losing path? Those people don’t help the game at all. If it’s not the weapon they use, they just call it no-skill and whine for nerfs.

Nerf parrots’ arguments don’t make sense. Some idiot said you shouldn’t be able to lunge and dash, but you made the sword exactly for that. It has been designed that way since beta.
And the hammer is too strong in melee and needs a nerf? Hammer is supposed to be strong up close. It has to be. If the slowest class comes into melee range, it should be powerful. But now hammer’s left click does 100 dmg? It’s the same damage as the KS you can use from a distance? Does that make any sense balance-wise?
The sword is the same. The DPS of melee is lower than that of guns you can use at range? Light classes only have 150 HP, and melee weapons must get close to deal any dmg.
Sword and hammer are melee. They require high damage output to compete with other weapons in close range.

To be clear,I’m not saying any things need a nerf.
I just want underperforming weapons to actually be usable.
Fix the damage.I’m tired of weapons getting nerfed just because people dislike them(cause skill issue).
You must stop listening to nerf parrots.When something they want nerfed without any real balance reason gets nerfed,they just move on to the next thing to complain about.

[smoky agate]

We need a counter to smoke grenades using thermal, like maybe gas can dissolve smoke?

[edgy karma]

New season, new map, once again there’s unfortunately no consistent way to play it - played for a few hours last night and didn’t get it once, same experience for a few friends. Please add a dedicated playlist for quick cash on the new map, and have it for a couple weeks at the beginning of each season! (the ones that have a new map anyway)

[hazy idol]

Idk why in this game they keep making light op, and constantly nerfing heavy
Started by nerfing dome shield, then the other special ability shield, now the hammer
If the hammer cannot kill a player once u pull him it has no use
If light escapes u re already dead, even if u pull him he might escape, but nerfing the hammer damage to let them escape is really annoying af and the hammer will no longwr be used

[mild wave]

Please add THE FINALS to The Points Shop from Steam
It would be so epic to have a THE FINALS themed Steam profile!

[terse yarrow]

Stop nerfing Heavy and stop nerfing melee. Your design philosophy went in the garbage bin. You say you want melee to be viable but then do what you did to the sledgehammer sword dagger etc. You sell skins for it then nerf it so hard that it makes nuns cry. Revert the changes.

[wheat wing]

Please make the ping tool more precise. The ping tool currently magnetizes to the nearest objective (e.g.: cashouts and cash boxes) but pings are often used to communicate crucial information about enemy locations and attack plans; these are often hard to do accurately in time-sensitive contexts because of the ping erroneously magnetizing to objectives if they're anywhere near where you originally intended to ping, and can lead to player miscommunications. Something like Apex's ping tool could make communication in the game feel a lot sharper.

[untold venture]

As a heavy main the sledge nerf was good, crutch weapon that took room temp IQ to use, thank you embark 🫡

[slender girder]

Juat died 5 times in a row since my teammates kept reviving me in hell.

WHY CAN'T WE STILL DENY GETTING REVIVED???

And didn't you say you had made improvements on the connection? Game is laggier than ever imo with people ghosting shots and teleporting.

Come on...

[fading falcon]

This update is an absolute mess. I used to get an average of 90 FPS, but now it’s only 40

[oak sorrel]

“As a heavy main” ie as someone who has never learnt how to not run head first into what is effectively a brick on a stick.
“Your honour, I may be stupid, but surely that’s not reason enough for me to die?”

[scenic shale]

Embark Im begging you, please stop nerfing melee to the ground. This game was appealing because it was different from other games having viable melee weapon options and a good range of them, you keep nerfing weapons that were barely in the meta and make them completely unusable. If double barrel can one shot why can’t sword? It simply doesn’t make sense.

[boreal bloom]

Was lagging hard in Nozomi Citadel, down to single digits. Every other map was fine. Please fix 🙏🏽

[tired escarp]

Faker

[sharp acorn]

For the skin shuffle, can we have it so we can favourite skins and have it sycle between those?

[analog pier]

12:45
Wysłano
there is absolutely no reason to play medium this season. medium have worst damage across all classes and now completely lost his identity by giving other classes healing abilities (not even specialization, ABILITIES). Last season was shit for me as a medium main cuz we got least interesting and fun weapon from all classes but now medium legit dead class

and drill is useless and boring. U could do something like Fuse ability form rainbow 6 siege and i would be much more usefull and way more cool

[white anchor]

🔥flamethrower should set non object areas on fire (setting grass on fire isn't helpful) but u have to keep firing at that area for a long tim using 8ammo ,it's more of a defensive option as u r busy firing areas rather then enemies,also the flame range should increase the more u continuously keep firing.🔥

The 93r time between burst is weird and not fun to use,make it so there isn't a gap or less time gap between burst and u can slightly nerf damage since u r increasing fire rate but the damage fall out is longer so there is a balance since due to recoil u can't spam it long/medium range.

V9S spam tapping disrupts normal aim movement and has no benefit and zero reason to pick over xp and M11,so to make it better it could have almost perfect close medium range hipfire accuracy even while moving then slightly reduced fire rate to make it count and it would be a unique niche cause at least it's accurate while moving where most weapon r not.The spam tapping v9s is unnatural and may have good stats on paper but almost no one in the lobby uses.

Ks23 needs a headshot buff 1.2x and a slight increase in projectile speed.

Breach charge should break smaller holes in walls so lights can minimise exposure that large destructon has right now, because u have 3 charges u can still make bigger holes.It should still stack damage.

[glad relic]

the music that comes on after timer runs out goes on twice and overlaps each other a bit

[indigo quartz]

The idea of having a 'meta' is so fucking stupid the finals was supposed to be a game where everything could compete with each other but embark keeps nerfing everything to the ground except the rifles and smgs and its slowley turning the finals into cod with bounce pads.
Bring back my shotguns
Bring back melee viability
Stop nerfing stuff that nobody asked to be nerfed

[fringe mirage]

Sledgehammer → Was the only fair balanced melee weapon. You destroyed it. Now killing will take much more time and heavy does not have the same sticking power as a light. When even medium struggle, it's crazy 😂

Spear and Shield → i have not played them enough to properly talk about them, though, if you actually read some feedback of the ACTUAL user of these weapon, it's clear they have so many fucking problems.

Sword → Still do not understand the damage nerf up to this day when EVERY specialization can out dps you during a lunge. Now the time to kill require you to be a OTP of the sword to not just die to any contestant you meet. It's ridiculous. People tell you that if the spin2win is too much, then nerf THAT... instead of the damage output.

Dagger → Oh my... This is by far the worst melee to play, and you make it worse and worse. It's beyond comprehension.

You have the fastest movement character, yet, getting slower than the slowest character, at the moment it needs it the most.
Then, server makes backstabs inconsistent as fuck, (i did see some improvement within the last update in season 6, but i've heard it's highly dependent on the person.) yet, you nerfed the angle because the receiving end is louder than the 3 moron that actually plays the weapon.

You never see a dagger in matches, i never got outplayed by a dagger, because most of people using it will be a dude trying it out and understanding how dogshit the weapon is . Yet, it still get nerfed again and again. There are only a few people that do wish this weapon to be appreciated, and manage to make it barely work.

Overall, as a melee only player, the direction you are taking is awfull. It's worse than not being heard at this point, because the only changes there are into melee, are nerfs, nerfs, nerfs. Why even bother adding melee if it's to burry them deep underground until it feels useless to use ?

You don't want Quick melee combo, but even guns can do them. The amount of time a SNIPER killed me faster at close range than me with me melee, i'm just.... dumbfounded. Melee is now High Risk & No Reward.

It just put me off the game. Please, do hear constructive critisism of player actually playing weapon, instead of nerfing every weapon that random people that only complain of weapon they don't know how to counter.
Please, consider adding a forum to post feedback on each individual weapon, where you could gather actual constructive criticism and not some crybabies whine that don't want to (or learn to) counter a weapon and just want to see it being nerfed.

(PS: There are a few ranged weapon i DESPISE playing against as a light melee player, like Double Barrel, Medium's grenade launcher, YET i can live with the fact these weapon are made to counter me, and i won't complain like other people for no apparent reason or constructive thoughts.)

[mellow narwhal]

8 bit deagles causes massive frame drops for your teammates

[burnt notch]

Yea I noticed this too, also the music at the end of the final round (in world tour at least) will overlap with the normal end of round music

[worn hull]

Sword sword sword. I hope you devs read this. I think you know what to do. A lot of people criticise you not buffing its damage.

Needs at the very least 125 damage on lunge. 140->105 is ridiculous. Make it 125 minimum.

[carmine crypt]

why keep melee in the game if it's not playable

[sand ether]

those constant color changes on the new map giving me headache, is it possible to disable it ?

[sonic forum]

New season, full crash on xbox serie X, since season 1, shutdown itself... Impossible to play 2 games in a row...

[fresh granite]

Revert hammer, revert model, bring back bank it. Miss after miss: medium gets its healing bashed and suddenly light can full-heal in one single burst and heavy can heal indefinitely. Cant have nice things

[solar flame]

PLEASE INCREASE ODDS OF GETTING THE NEW MAP !!!!

[spring crypt]

Can you make the selectable (Club) Challenges vary in XP Reward Scaling with difficulty? If I am feeling daring i could go for a difficult high xp one or if I cant play that much I could choose an easy one.

New Half Automatic and DMR changes feel really great. makes the pike and lh1 feel alot more reliable.

[compact ore]

Medium class is dead…just remove it a give everything to your golden boys

[normal reef]

weapon balancing and class crybabies aside, please let us players atleast buy extra character slots with vrs

[vivid seal]

make show tokens easier to obtain

[mild veldt]

Plus the extra pages aren't even that sought out, you rarely see someone using them. Most of the time they're just recolors, with a few exceptions begin actually great.

It's meaningless to keep the extra pages away since even the main audience doesn't mostly care for it at all.

[delicate dirge]

Sledge nerf is Is confusing. Embark says they want Melee to be viable and thengive sledge a flat damage nerf? Whichmelee weapon IS viable? Spear? Dual Blades? Sword? Dagger? Riot Shield? Sledge? Answer: none of them
anymore.

Buff sword buff sledge buff db and give spear more range. These weapons are actually unusable in any competitive way.

[high wing]

SEASON 7: MAJOR DISAPPOINTMENT

Core experience is flawed. The new €30 Battle Pass tier proves player experience is secondary to monetization.

Still Missing Basic Features:

No In-Game Profiles (standard in FPS).
No Match History (essential online).
No Personal Stats (classes, weapons, specs, gadgets).
No Community Stats (trends, data).
No Ping Indicator (basic necessity).
No Direct DMs (limits social).
Poor Friend Status (game time, round).
No Clear Numerical Weapon Stats.
No Ranked Solo Queue.

Critical Unresolved Issues:

Unfixed Netcode (persistent issues).
Unreliable Hit Reg (frustrating).
Broken Audio (bugs, impacts awareness).
Poor/Shallow Balance (stale, no depth).
Horrible Matchmaking (bad RS-system, unbalanced teams).

Monetization & Priorities:

No Local Shop Pricing
Greedy €30 BP Tier: Shows monetization over core gameplay while issues persist.

[west raven]

Removed the Light Healing Gun. Whoever designed this item is an idiot. They said healing in medium combat is terrible and then released an item that instantly heals 400HP

[signal basin]

Update after patch S7 :

General feedback
Embark, I bought the Ultimate BP . To support you guys, really. But to be honest, from my POV, the price is to much high and should be able to buy IG not by bundle. 20€ will be fairer price if you can regain it in the BP.
Looks like your hire someone in charge of monetization from Respawn. I bought it this time. Not sure I will do it every seasons.

Letting CL40 like this is stupid. Everytime you buff it, your game become unplayable for 33% of your game.

🎲 For the game 🎲

• In pratice game, let us fight between friends (or not !)
• Why in WT, lose in final round against a tri-stack squad when I'm playing solo ?
• Add "step" in the reload animation so when you climb on something during a reload, it's not completly reset.
• Add a report option " Sabotage " in the report section in game please.
• Let us choose our sight weapons at the beginning of a game
• Delete low gravity event. It's not fun AT ALL
• Random skin and charm list for weapons/gadgets. EDIT : Thanks for the random skin weapons, but can we not just choose multiple skins and randomize them for the next step please ?
• We shouldn't lost point in ranked when a team mate leave the squad and didn't play during the round
• Let us invite friends or join them in group even if we are not the group leader
• Add the possibility to look at the profil/card of friends and recent players.
• **Give us the possibility to customize rules in private match. Like "only M and Dual Blade", "only Light and SR84", "only marksman", "No heal, Light only and grenade only". You can imagine all you want and put it in private match for streamer and their community to make the game more fun **
• Unreal or random crashes still here in S7
• Revive and Objectives score should add additional points in ranked

**⚖️ For balance ⚖️ **

• The Heavy heal... For all the squad ? Without limit in time or HP ? For a class with shield, barricade and 350 HP ? Embark... please.
• **Revert your XP-54 nerf **
• Nulifier is just useless right now. Offer invincibility to the ennemy ? Really ?
  Rework : When you get it by the "Taser" your recoil is increased but you can still move as you want and your take 5 dmg/sec by the electricity. Can hit multiple target like the lock bolt.
• REVERT CL40 BUFF. Medium spam this without dying and destroying the fun in your game
• You shouldn't be able to right clic sword + dash
• CB01-Repeater is just OP. Nerf the damage
• Rework Vanish Bomb and make it start regen instant. It will increase survability for the Light and it can be use for your teammates too !
• Nerf Turret range.
• Reduce the radius of the reflect of the Dual Blade or let us shoot in the feet or something else to let us counter DB when you got an AR like Riot Shield.
• Nerf the range of the KS shotgun. You can put 100 dmg at 20m.
• Nerf PIKE to 48 dmg instead of 50 dmg.
• Rework defib: Reduce the cooldown reset to 5s and give 100HP instead of 50% of your HP. It will force Medium to revive more safely !
• Rework Sonar : Scan 5 times instead of 3 but if you don't move it can't scan you
• Winch and lockbolt shouldn't do damage. It's strong enough, to not make damage

** 🛜 Servers problems 🛜 **

• Improve your netcode / tickrate or I don't know what ! Dying behind cover it's one of the most frustrating thing in The Finals
• Flamethrower and hook should NOT get you through walls, doors and more.
• Sword, dagger, dualsword or all other melee weapon feels unfair when you think you're out of range and die anyway.
• Flamethrower is bugged. You can hit people without being in the range.

Oh and ping me as much as you want. I will not answer. You will never say anything much accurate than the META.
And the META is full of Medium and Heavy. Not Light. That's fact.

I will always post this now and add some changes time to time.

[supple temple]

revert the sledge nerf my boy did nothing wrong

[untold hazel]

❌

[coral pivot]

Stop the "nerfing" balance ! U cant balance weapons by how frequently they're used. Especially the sledge hammer. It is one of the appealing features of the game and it should be good at close range. Stop balancing that focuses on light class's experience and how frequently a weapon is used!!! The balance changes of the game is receiving strongly negative comments from people around me. And I also think so. As far as I know, 4 friends of my quit playing because of the constant nerfing balance. So please stop doing balance around lights' HP, alright?
And stop hearing those who is always supporting this game without brains. U KNOW WHAT I MEAN???

[manic shadow]

Intel XeSS 2.0.1 when?

[narrow socket]

What's the point in nerfing weapon damage if you're gonna, give every class healing

[wooden vapor]

Sledgehammer nerf was way too much, it SHOULD win most close range battles because its a sledgehammer!!

[raw bobcat]

Quick Suggestion!

• Add focus mode that hides players stats in game (and maybe that also sets everyones skin to default when in focus mode + weapons skins. (client sided))

[lament wyvern]

I dont understand why sledge was nerfed

[topaz jungle]

Acknowledge the servers have been borked and please fix them

[covert kite]

early 2000's clear electronic skin set would go incredibly hard this season

[dull bloom]

Important

Chuck the healing emitter needs a skin like Terry the turret

[sudden trout]

I really can't overstate how many fumbles have been made at the start of this season. Counterplay is meant to be the name of the game yet Embark appears to be set on destroying off meta options, such as sword, sledgehammer and dagger, in favour of those who want this to be a way to play cod without spending 70 bucks for all the accoutrements. It's frankly ridiculous if I may. If you have that much of an issue with these weapons, I suggest exploring options that don't fundamentally nuke a weapon's playability like basic damage nerfs.

For example, making it so light sword lunges prevented the user from looking around and from multi hitting lunges (swings could remain multihit) would enable the damage to be reverted, as it would make the weapon give a higher reward for the risk of committing to the lunge, which is also an aspect of rapier fencing to my knowledge. This is but one way the balancing could be improved, by holding off on trigger happy nerfing and thinking about what would actually balance the weapons out.

The new healing items also blur the line between the otherwise clear classes. I believe they both should either be significantly weaker than the heal beam or become specs, as they heavily increase survivability.

The Ultimate Battle Pass is also problematic. It makes sense to have, as The Finals is a FTP game, but it still would be nice to have a free way to get it (such as making it a number of multibucks extra with premium). Either way, the fact that fomo is being manipulated to get people to pay on a game where 95% of content can be acquired without money pushes it a bit too far. At the very least, I would reduce the cost slightly to about 25 USD.

There are other issues that others have brought up, but I don't wanna be down about everything. The changes to a number of guns have all been brilliant. The new map looks incredible, as do the contracts and battle pass rewards. Overall, love the game, but some tweaks would really make it good for S8.

[pseudo leaf]

Boring season. New healing meta is boring. Other than that almost nothing changed. Cerb wasn't even that good at high elo. Claw was the bigger problem. Goo is still strong. Flash nerf is weird. Pike still not get nerfed. No ranked system change or anything against boosting and cheating (that text at the end of patch notes is just funny. We give them names of cheaters and the guy gets boosted and that guy still gets in ruby every season by cheaters...) They actually made smurfing/boosting easier with recruit system and discounts...
If i find free time i will be boosting players to diamond for just to make the game feel worst for others. Because why not. If a ruby player plays with a guy has 50 wins to get easier matches why shouldn't i be doing boosting. I didn't heard anything against it from embark.

[bold surge]

here is what you can learn from a different game that took the same approach... Helldivers 2 started with a bunch of nerf over every update to try to balance a PVE SHOOTER.... makes no sense so what they do, actually listen to the player base that instead plays on the high difficulty, they listened to the casual gamers who actually provides majority of their income and BUFFED Everything and guess what? Many players returned the got more new content and customizations. The game is THRIVING, so I suggest literally balance with buffs instead of nerf for both this game and ark raiders!

[tame vessel]

Here is a list of weapons that need to be buffed but not make them meta in the next balance patch

Spear: increase the basic attack damage combo to 70, 80, 95 and increase the spin attack damage to either 120 or 130

KS-23: increase the projectile speed to 500m/s and either add a 1.2x headshot multiplier or decrease the fire rate to 73 RPM and increase the player damage to 120

Riot shield: increase the swing speed by a little and make it so we can bash people while blocking if they get too close and the bash will do no damage but will knock them back a bit but not too far maybe like 5 meters and increase the movement speed when blocking

R.357:Increase the bodyshot damage to 75 and decrease the headshot multiplier to 1.9 therefore making it 75 × 1.9=142.5 and also decrease the fire rate by a little bit maybe from 140 to 130

Dual blades: add a parry mechanic so it can parry secondary attacks of other melee weapons like the sledgehammers overhead charge but it can't parry the primary attacks of other melee weapons and increase the first swing damage from 50 to 55 and increase the second swing damage from 60 to 65 and lastly increase the final attack damage from 65 to 75 and make it so the final attack can be done faster and increase the movement speed when deflecting by just a little bit

AKM: increase magazine capacity to 34, 35 or 36, the choice is yours on what number you choose

ARN-220: increase the fire rate to 750 rpm, decrease the duration of the tactical reload animation from 2.45s to 2.30s, decrease the duration of the full reload animation from 2.80s to 2.60s

Smoke Grenade: decrease the ammo from 3 to 2, and decrease the cooldown from 50s to 20s

please, please Embark these weapons and gadget need some love
Hopefully you guys see this, these emojis will highlight the message so you can see them 🥇:🤠🤯😵:⚽️:grinning:😆🙃😇🫠

[quaint portal]

Melee is not viable currently and Embark is taking every step to make it even less viable with each balance patch. I thought this game was supposed to be different to other shooters, but it is slowly becoming a battlefield/COD clone with a few gimmick gadgets and abilities. Sad to see.
Embark, stop taking advice from sweaty, cringe streamers that only play with guns, and focus on the aspect that make you game unique and fun.
Stop nerfing playstyle and build variety for the sake of renegade COD players, THEY ARE NOT YOUR AUDIENCE.

[valid stratus]

big up

[pastel cypress]

Where'd all the heavys go? The feel the game is just riddled with lights and medium with dmats

[worn burrow]

lemon on a stick 10/10 🍋

[unreal blaze]

Imagine trying so hard not to play a shooter game.

[iron socket]

Why is it so difficult to grind legacy passes?

[tepid spruce]

hi hii, i am once again asking to please update the platinum ranked stickers, they look like silver. Thank you

[split scroll]

Bow is broken asf

[undone pier]

Buff melee somehow please I want my sledge back!

[placid parrot]

Allow VRs to be converted to STs for legacy battle passes, this gives use to the currency mid season. This or buff the amount of STs you get and communicate how you are getting them, its very unclear as to how i’m earning these and it is also very slow to earn, with the most i’ve gotten is 3 after a full WT

[brittle smelt]

sledge hammer is "hard" nerfed yet it was in every single game i've played so far, i wonder why that is, maybe because it wasnt actually the problem, that damn claw is embark

[uncut gull]

​​To Embark Studio, can we get a new gadget? a new map? new weapons? And new specializations? New casual mode or event? new skin? new must-have feature in every season? ​Not a new ultimate pass, can't we?

[drifting mauve]

The adder should be the medium zoom because the reticule dot is smaller making for better shot aquisition at range. Where as the reflector dot is too big affecting precision. 🫠

[thorny lynx]

CL-40, jump pad = tell me you cant aim without telling me you cant aim. Cool skill set

[patent dirge]

I don't get it they did all that. +it requires a lot of design and time to make all these things

[waxen olive]

make it so eliminations is world tour gives you points (ie 6 elims = 1 point)

[wraith igloo]

lol wt/ranked is absolute ruined trash now. You can literally be invincible as heavy with so much heal bs at the same time.

[wind flume]

make melee viable again pls

[agile bough]

Or maybe because it is fun?

[hidden solstice]

Making the ultimate 30$ u just abuse & doesnt respect your community...

[primal frost]

Please make it so the healing ball slowly loses health as it heals you :)

[limber bluff]

Rework winch to something less oppresive so sledge/ks can get the buffs they deserve

[toxic sedge]

Embark,

the balance is great, but buff melee’s please.

Tysm for the new great season,

[hybrid pike]

Thank you for great balance embark! Y’all do a great job and as a semi serious casual player I am very happy with my options right now 🙂

[smoky zephyr]

Can we please add a red t shirt? I need it for my fashion 🙏

[daring remnant]

a taunt where you hold a little police mugshot thing and you stand head on and then turn from side to side for the left and right side profile shots

the crime you are a suspect for could be a stolen cashout

[granite latch]

The only people embark care about at this point is light mains. Probably getting pocket change from some light streamers at this point who knows I wouldn’t be surprised