👂┇game-feedback

[ionic saddle]

You guys have to work on this rank grind. Couldn't work on ranked at all cause World Tour took all season to get up there. It doesn't hurt anyone except the regular players to have it take so long to grind these modes. ESPECIALLY since you still let people who have these modes maxed out like Emerald 1s and Ruby players play with everyone else. Something needs to change cause I should still be able to play for fun and not have to worry about grinding TWO ranked modes back to back.

[versed hazel]

okay well congrats, you are probably just good at the game bro. the fact that some people are above average and some people are below it doesn't mean the game doesn't have SBMM implemented. also, even though I don't know exactly how it works I know for sure that high kill count is not the only determining factor when it comes to what opponents you will be matched against.

[fading flame]

please make more maps like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=je9ZS81O_q8

[keen heath]

Please Embark im begging you please make melee weapons better they get out shined by Guns so often

[red echo]

We gonna find out tmr but I rly doubt it...

[edgy urchin]

🫑 light is unbalanced, needs a major rework honestly

@versed hazel replies automatically ping

[versed hazel]

why would u @ me lmao

[charred bough]

I'm sure it was mentioned a hundred times before. But I really need to get this off my chest.
It's so damn annoying, that players are leaving the game and you just can tell it's because the team is about to lose. Or it seems like the team is about to lose. Bc sometimes it's so late in the game that you don't get another teammate and you are really just losing bc you're one (wo)man short.
I think people who are leaving the game while being on the "loser"side should get malus-points.
If it happens bc you really need to go, it's unfortunate - but it doesnt happen often, right? But it would really hurt those RL losers who are too emotional to lose.

[keen olive]

exactly, please add deathmatch so those people can leave anytime when they are frustrated with themselfs or let themselfs timeout and not care about the objective

[dense ocean]

day 81 asking embark
let console players able/disable HUD

[brisk halo]

I really wish there were weapon or contestant specific crosshairs. I know it from overwatch. Rn i have a very generic one, because i switch weapons/ classes a lot. Being able to save a specific crosshair to a contestant setup/ weapon would make the whole customization way more usefull

[jagged trout]

If players are maxed out at level 69/70.
Please give those players other ways to gain BP xp besides contracts and teaming up..
This just makes it almost near impossible to finish the battle pass.
Especially for those with a busy work and family life who are lucky to only get the weekends or their 2 days off per week to actually even get a chance and that isn't even enough unfortunately..

[trim saffron]

make sniper hipfire slightly better

[elfin sandal]

Did someone feels SR-84 a little bit delay?

[marble crest]

Features I'd like to see:

• Being able to save custom outfits
• Being able to save custom crosshairs
• Partially refund ammo the magazine of a resurrected teammate (unless they are defibrillated)
• Boomerang gadget (with a 'catch' mechanic that rewards you with a reduced cooldown)
• More sights/Ironsight options (maybe even different scope variations like full holo sights? though that's a stretch to be fair)
• Custom menu music (ability to pick from previous seasons) (I know we're getting a jukebox, but being able to set a certain song to play whenever you open the game or leave a match would be cool)
• Spellcaster weapon/specialisation? Like a wand or staff that can send projectiles out (Maybe require the player to stand still and 'concentrate' a la DnD for a heavier secondary attack)
• More June/Scotty Voicelines/reactions. Maybe some more enthused ones for really rare and epic plays?
• Being able to use gestures with pets (Having the bird sit on your arm while you check your watch briefly as an example)

[wraith orchid]

this👆🏻 and i wonder why finals is literally the only game where a bunch people are spreading this nonesense. i mean its like this with a dozens of games (lol, valo, csgo, apex…) but there nobody complains😐

[low plaza]

Nerf turrets

[woven hawk]

Please add option to remove horizontal or vertical lines in crosshair.

[low plaza]

Stop cashout progress when being stolen, pretty self explanatory to already have it but i guess the devs arent the brightest 🥴

[vapid drum]

Embark please rework the revolver

[dire raft]

What do I have to do for the game to retain the graphics settings? I have to **turn off DLSS frame regeneration **and set the maximum frames every time.
This sucks so much...

[proven jetty]

Man buff the heavy class speed by just a little

[sharp violet]

MORE THAN ONE SPONSOR PLZ

[tulip steppe]

Embark please add a chill guy emote

[low plaza]

Fr, embark dont care anymore. Hope the game dies tbh. Useless devs.

[vocal owl]

the tip of the M60 skin from the current battlepass has a visual bug the inside of the barrel does not exist for the tip, probably not very important but i just noticed that and i doubt that is intentional.

[vestal basin]

Fix your bugged game, FPS game industry joke

[stuck sentinel]

why

[red echo]

Ofc it's a united fan saying this lmaooo , gtfo of here we still love this game and we sure its gonna succeed

[long arrow]

Matchmaking &ranked progression rework pls
Tired to play with lost unranked player who dont have more iq than powershift player. For me they are just acting , irons in valorant game have more brain.
Ranked progression with SR dont have sens , dont take count or cheats,afk players, leaving players or Matchmaking not finished forced y to play in 2v3v3v3, ranks, if we want progression we should tryhard asf for be top1 of a clown tournament. I m asking sometimes who s devs working on this part of this game....
Remove Kyoto or all your players gonna install(or rework it because game crash every games player on this ....
Jukebox is coming but pls let us choice musique in Matchmaking ,win/loose & favorite, same for weapons charms & stickers.
No Cares if u dont take count or community feedback. The future of the game will dépend on that 🙂 if u prefer loose your community its your problem ❤️

[uneven dagger]

“Fix the game” mf’s when they give the worst suggestions imaginable and or none at all

[meager jewel]

I’d really love to see a Swedish/Scandinavian/Nordic-themed map 🇸🇪

[distant fern]

Please give us bigger XP boosts, reduce the amount of XP needed for the last 10 BP levels, AND make the battle passes not expire.

I don't care about the word "bonus pages". The only way to access those pages is to purchase the battle pass. The XP requirements aren't even displayed until you reach those tiers.

Requiring players to play every single day just to BARELY complete the last 10 levels is ridiculous. This will cause severe burnout, and drive players away from purchasing future battle passes. I've quit various gacha games, including Genshin, due to having to play every single day to progress, and I'll do the same to this game & stop spending money if Embark doesn't make any good changes to the battle pass. I will never give my play time & money to a game that doesn't respect them.

If Embark wants to retain players, give us good events with good rewards instead of encouraging unhealthy video game habits through those anti-casual "bonus pages" grind & the wheel bullshit.

[slate mauve]

Add Lvls to Weapons.
Add diamond-like skins (not diamond, some other stone like sapphire or w/e) for reaching level 30 with a weapon.

[verbal prawn]

Something I thought of but not sure would be appropriate for the game

A mastery skin for each weapon in the game that looks fresh and unique, only unlocked when you reach a certain high level with the weapon

(E.g. A amethyst pearlstrike revolver mastery skin or a glass/RGB M11)

Tell me your critiques

[mild pond]

1 year later and still asking for an increase to maximum sensitivity for controller players

[jaunty elbow]

How about some melee weapons only limited time event? I always recommend The Finals to my friends and if they do not enjoy FPS games much, I use the argument that they can play various melee weapons and still be good at this game (even against the guns)! Could be fun to see all the creative plays when you can’t use the guns.

[quasi delta]

Add crosshair options for when you aim down sight

[proven crown]

If you can't buff lights by giving them extra HP, perhaps an extra gadget slot would make sense. Or at least combined smoke and thermal into one thing ?

[silent fog]

No shoot bug has been happening again more often recently, please fix on S5 release.
Also nerf charge n slam.

[coarse jetty]

lol why is it even possible to lose ranked points from stupid crap like being put against diamonds as a gold

[red echo]

Or remove visual recoil there is your and many rest of us issue

@proven crown light does NOT need extra hp lmaoo , I can guarantee you even the best light player itw will find this idea insane

@triggernometry.#0000 I used external crosshair with akm sight and its still very annoying , I would still recommend sticking to iron sights till embark decides to remove the visual recoil which is unnecessary af

[quasi delta]

ADS Crosshairs are easier to implement instead of redoing every weapon animation in order to remove visual recoil.
On top of the fact weapons sights still sway outside the center of your screen by movement itself, not shooting.

Still giving those who use external crosshairs an unfair advantage thats been allowed by Embark lol

[upper granite]

pls reveal emerald rewards at the start of the season ty

[subtle oak]

Input based matchmaking please.
Whats the reason to not implement this?

[lunar nimbus]

id like

• team deathmatch
• reloads that can be paused and started again like in cod

[broken geyser]

Forreal, it'll make the overall gameplay so smooth

[uneven dagger]

I propose an alternate use for charge and slam as a temporary sprint and long jump that’s longer lasting without doing any damage

[lilac coral]

Isn’t the charge like a short sprint

[delicate notch]

The private match mode needs work. We should be able to change the game mode when in the lobby. There should be a randomizer button so the teams aren't always the same and we should be able to assign players to teams anyway. I do not understand why this isn't a thing already, these are basic functions. Whenever I want to play in a bigger group of friends our enjoyment is hindered greatly by these missing options. We should be able to play anything we like, however we like. If we want to do 2v2v2's let us do it. If we want to change from Quick Cash to Powershift let us do it. If we want to change teams or modes don't make us jump through hoops. It has been so long, please fix the the private match mode!

[fading pelican]

Same here. But I think i'm gonna quit for good. I gave Embark one last chance when they posted an update but nah, nothing really changed. No real compensation for the cheaters, the time loss, power shift not adding up to the money needed for that 1M contract, etc etc etc. I don't think the devs play the game and do the rules (i.e. contracts/challenges) they themselves set so they're so out of touch with reality. I told them before to give more options per contract - such as play 25 power shift or cashout x amount of money. This covers a lot of different types of players and everyone ends up happy. But nah. They're too stuck at this point I think.
So tired trying to do senseless contracts. Game isn't optimized, see the recent bug reports and discussions on fps drops etc. So many cheaters. No leeway for the exp at least. It's really so toxic esp. because the devs stopped any effective communication. The last update had them "thanking" the players which without any action and commitment is just corporate talk.
Like having dystopian corporations inside The Finals is cool and alright but I didn't expect Embark to be like those corpos. I just think I'm out at this point and I've given Embark enough chances. I kept reporting cheaters, going to Discord to report bugs, and this is how they reward their player base.

[quick coyote]

Fix matchmaking. It's unfair.

[woeful arch]

Being able to use gestures with pets (Having the bird sit on your arm while you check your watch briefly as an example)
That would be adorable! Reminds me a bit of how Sea of Thieves does it when you hold your pet, it's the cutest animation. Although I must say I've been spooked by the bats of teammates before lmao, wasn't sure what the heck was following them 😂

[upper citrus]

Buff light specs :—)

[rough herald]

i swear im not fly hacking, The finals are just being The finals™️

[smoky sluice]

add anti cheat

[upper granite]

make light viable in high elo. and PLS REVEAL EMERALD SKINS AT THE START OF THE SEASON some ppl have to choose ranked OR WT to grind

[woeful arch]

Please consider randomzing completely Power Shift maps spawn points. Seeing increasingly players who learned the maps by heart and just go to farm kills at the spawn of the other team (mostly noticed that on Monaco and SYSHORIZON maps). Countering that is difficult when teammates are new to the game and have no clue that they should expect some Stealthy Light taking them down in 2 shots (usually the teams who do that have at least 3 Lights in their comp), or even when you just want to play objective with a good team spirit instead of being that suppressive. It's not fun at all, it's an overkill strategy for a casual game mode and it's enabled by the current spawn logic. Keeping it chaotic and unexpected for everyone involved would be ideal.

[amber sparrow]

Please add my friend Terry to the finals

[signal basin]

Read my name.

• **NERF MODEL ! For real not this useless nerf **
• Add an indicator for the frag grenade or at least make them more visual ?
• Nerf damage Deagle at mid/long range
• Reverse XP nerf. Same dmg than a M11 but slower RPM and less bullets. JUST USELESS !
• Rework Mesh shield
• Nerf Charge'N'Slam. Too much damage.
• Buff grapple. Reduce cooldown by 1 sec or add charge.
• If Hook do damage, Stun gun should do. Put damage for both of them or no damage for both of them.
• Nerf the right clic + Dash on Light. You couldn't dash with your sword or dagger charge. Too strong.
• Nerf defib. Let's give 100 HP for every class. No more 50%
• Patch the level up bug on weapons at the end of matches. It's been here since many months now !
• Kill, Assist, Revive and Objectives points should add more points in ranked even with you lose T1.
• Fix the recoil bug/pattern
• Fix the spawn after a wipe, SHOULD NOT RESPAWN on CashOut and camping for your vault

More on the game :

• BAN CHEATERS AND TOXIC PLAYER. I'm done of getting insult. Report them do nothing. AND PERMA BAN ! NOT 7 DAYS
• Do something for the poor matchmaking in ranked.
• Increase the netcode / tickrate / servers ! Or maybe it's lag compensation ?! I'm done getting kill at 3 meters far from a hammer or a sword
• Let us choose our sight weapons at the begining of a game
• Let us go in pratice with friends
• Delete low gravity event. Just the worst event in this game.
• Some event appear in front of the scoreboard. Fix it please
• Random skin and charm list for weapons / gadgets
• Add a TDM mode for warming up.
• We shouldn't lost point in ranked when a team mate leave the squad and didn't play during the round
• Let us invite friends or join them in group even if we are not the leader
• Add the possibility to PM friends in the lobby
• Add the possibility to look at the profil/card of friends
• Let us leave a game without penality in ranked if we are only 2 or 1 in the squad !
• Some spawn are still at the opposite of the objective.

I will always post this now and add some changes time to time.

[half inlet]

take inspiration from marvel rivals and make every class op so it becomes balanced

[coarse jetty]

we had this in season 1 and it was perfect but ruined so fast by ppl complaining here all the time

[whole dragon]

nerf turret meta

[violet rampart]

I also believe that the skins need to be revealed at the start of the season for WT and Ranked as I only have time to play one and chose ranked but wished I picked WT thinking there wasn't any emerald skins

[muted basalt]

Some Feedback to the finals ranked Meta:

-Add a defib cap. No Team should have more then maximum 2 defib, I have in my Ruby lobbys Teams where we have to do 6 kills to wipe them.

-Dont show the ranks of the teams, we often face situations where the other ruby team designs there play style aroun knocking us out.

-fix the boosting problem. We have players in top 500 that are famous for a combination out of boosting and hacking like: NikitaCrazy #0241 who gets boostet and at the same time has a hacker on his Team (even admited it on steam but u still didnt ban him (same with dellysmoon).

-fix seeding. those bossting teams often have a player at 49k RR and 2 Silver players and therfore get seedet 4 even dough they are all with there mains in top 500. Makes it for players that play honest verry hard to play in top 500.

-take ur time after the season for the ruby rewards. There ar at least 150 Players in the top 500 who boostet in there and hacked all the way to top 500. Refund those players who lost to those teams there lost RR (in the case of my team over 2000RR.

-think about adding a role que like maximum 2 mediums for e.g.

-cap the damage of charge and slam at 240.

-take the xp to the old level since the m11 has now a scope and a fire rate of a russion air defence while beeing more accurat in hipfire then a elite sniper with a scope.

-take the sniper back to before the nerf, I mean a pike or a lh1 is hitscan but a sniper (anyway weak) is projectile based?

-go away from the burst meta. Gives players who play on console basicly aimbot.

-nerf the aim assist (tryed it with the lh1 my selfe and felt like hacking)

[molten spruce]

Add the ability to change FOV up to 120 like it was in closed beta and open beta, now the maximum is 103 and i want 120 FOV

[ancient dirge]

buff lewis recoil slightly
buff m60 range

[rough herald]

i forgot to mention but this happen before, season 1 i think?

[thorny lynx]

Turrets need a reload, a cool down and most importantly disappear when the operator is eliminated. Otherwise they are for players with bad aim and need aimbot

[dull kettle]

Bruh if I leave the match bc my teammates are throwing and get penalties that’s dumb

[coarse jetty]

sledgehammer op fuck that shit get it out of heeeeeeeerrrrrrrrreeeeeeeee

[lilac coral]

How did you come to the conclusion that players have bad aim if they use turret

[lilac kite]

Damn are people this bad in general to consider turret a threat?, its the most useless spec for medium, that thing is always in a corner being useless while the whole building is going down most of the time

[sacred cypress]

Theres a bug when reviving mates on Fortune Stadium under the Stairs, the player amiibo glitches thru the staircases

[runic gull]

Please change the level 7 and 8 weapon skins. They suck.

[wary hedge]

level 9 weapon skin when

[plush fjord]

Um im getting a bug in powershift.
Every time i play the gamemode the platform is GOLDEN instead of red, yk when the enemy team takes control of it.
And instead of the enemies being outlined red, theyre golden as well.
any idea whats happening???

[sharp violet]

ACCESS TO MORE THAN ONE SPONSOR ITEMS PLZ

[twilit kite]

Imo invis should be buffed because even though I never play it, I can always spot enemy players in invis running around, maybe not far away, but close up oh I can see them as clear as other players

[vestal yacht]

Maybe, running cloaking players are kinda always visible but they can be ever so slightly harder to see when right up next to you in a fight. The main thing is that cloaking Lights NEVER stay still so most people have gotten used to spotting them. I've cloaked and just stood still where I vanished and people will run past like nothing happened

[maiden epoch]

NERF THE FUCKING FAMAS

[dark niche]

bro ranked is so wank this season, im getting silver teamates against plats and diamonds and its -600 for losing, ye gg Embark.

[spring marlin]

Someone plays light

[mental sky]

lag

[misty loom]

Please fix world tour on console. Ever since the last update it has been impossible to find a game without crossplay on. Currently sitting in queue for 20 min

[fleet socket]

Please embark we need the drip

[rough herald]

The second clip have no lag

[quick coyote]

https://youtu.be/KlAdc605GJc?si=3lOMbNe83s0wxoIy

[subtle wharf]

wow

[safe relic]

Can we bring back actual damage to the rpg? It takes ages to cooldown and the shots hit like a wet paper towel. I think most Heavies just use it to blow holes in structures at this point because they know it doesn't do jack in combat.

[graceful sequoia]

dude these days the game is infected by cheaters

[naive seal]

Allow lobby/match chat. If someone doesn't want to deal with it, they can disable it.

[gleaming crane]

got none tbh

[gritty owl]

played terminal attack again after quite a while, and its quite fun now

[maiden epoch]

FIX DEFIB ZOMBIES.
BUFF EXPLOSIVES.
BUFF XP54 AND FCAR.

[quick coyote]

real

[spring marlin]

Buff the mgl so that it explodes on impact when hitting an enemy but still bounces

[proven vale]

Lights are perfectly balanced. RPG tickles people, turrets have too much health, make it so we can see player stats pregame so I can leave if I have trash teammates.

[woeful arch]

might want to report that in #1201841543926005810 they've mentioned known issues to me in the past like to me the enemies outline was blue as if they were my allies

[plush fjord]

ohk thnxx so much 👍

[sage sonnet]

You need to wait for the renaissance season to drop

[molten pier]

RPG does just fine damage. Back in the day when it 1 shot light, that was so bad lol. I think it's fine where it's at

[red echo]

100 dmg wet paper towel lmaoo , it's main purpose was to blow holes anyways my guy

[hoary vessel]

https://tenor.com/view/laughing-cat-catlaughing-laughingcat-point-gif-7577620470218150413

[coarse plover]

please.. give stronger penalties for people leaving the games. I had 6 games today where one person left the game and one game where 2 of my tm8 didnt even got into game..

[wide void]

It needs to be redesigned to be complete and total invisibility. That way, it is fair and consistent for everyone. Obviously, it would need more downsides afterwards like, for example, possibly taking more damage when cloaked, having even more obvious sound cues, being unable to attack for a moment when uncloaking (or having a damage debuff when uncloaking), or being automatically revealed if you get too close to an enemy.

Whatever design is chosen exactly, it shouldn't remain in its current form as an unreliable accessibility issue.

[wraith salmon]

for this game to be esports ready needs fsr 3.1.2 upscaling

[surreal meadow]

https://tenor.com/view/thats-it-yes-thats-it-that-right-there-omg-that-thats-what-i-mean-gif-17579879

cant believe you soundboarded me im ur biggest fan

[grand peak]

NERF M11

[dusk moon]

Mfs that think they playing ghost recon future soldier got on people's nerves, so they nerfed them and now your invisible when you not moving and slightly visible when moving

[quick coyote]

Remove the light class from the game

[atomic kraken]

Honestly love it like that, imagine if a light could be invisible while moving considering the dagger charge attack doesn’t trigger invis to stop until you release the attack

[obsidian sail]

How to fix acoustic echo (please fix your voice chat echo problem guysssss)

[brittle obsidian]

its 10 dps dude its already worthless if your opponent capable of moving or fighting back

[viral parcel]

getting nothing but xp for the sponsorship challenges felt like a let down especially since getting those 25 headshots was such a pain

[echo urchin]

Super valuable, 1,000% totally objective, not at all emotionally biased feedback:

Defib nerf: as a M main; enemy should respawn with an empty mag, 10% health, and be stunned for 30s.

Heal beam: it should take health away from the person healing and highlight the person being healed with a sonar effect

Model: pellet spread should be RNG and every third shell should fire an apology to the enemy.

Winch: it should have a 3m range, 20s wind up, and a 3min cd, it should also pull the enemy in for a hug that heals them.

Charge and Slam: I main H but it should do zero damage and knock enemies back gently enough for them to accurately mag dump; the charge should also be slow enough for them to easily dodge, and the slam should do self damage.

Invis: they should be visible

Dash: even us L mains think we should only get one. 2 minute cd.

Sword: I don’t understand why this weapon that is literally useless except in really close range, is so dominant in really close range. Nerf it so it’s always useless or I’m telling my mom.

Turrets: 50 health, no lock on, they just fire in the same spot until they run out of ammo. One mag.

Mines and traps: they should trigger a pop-up that says “are you sure you want to step on that?”, and give the player the option to say no.

Grenades: they should ask the enemies permission before exploding.

APS: that’s it, that’s the joke. The APS.

The game isn’t balanced until the off meta weapon that I main is viable in top 50 lobbies. Anything that counters my loadout is bullshit.

Destruction is too RNG, get rid of destruction.

Honestly, anything in the game that is fun, novel, or at all challenging should be removed. Something something, low gravity, moving platforms, suspended structures, sandstorm Vegas, Kyoto, etc. but also, in game events are boring as fuck and need to be more interesting. No i won’t provide any examples.

[upper citrus]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/714245295659024397/1251977229378781275/Card.gif

[thin grail]

ah yes, a literal +0 game

[idle crypt]

https://tenor.com/view/bomboclat-gif-9948812271671073942

[woeful lagoon]

buff spear

[gleaming crane]

I’ll it’s of hugs

[burnt notch]

https://tenor.com/view/the-finals-meme-skill-issue-gif-8954538409360726605

[dire notch]

CANCEL matches if the game starts with incomplete teams/someone out in the first minute and a half. it's not even funny in competitive,sometimes it happens three matches in a row...like why does it work in terminal attack if now its an arcade mode,but its not the thing at all in comps/wt????

[worldly trench]

this season also seems to crash peoples games at match start so people will rejoin like after first cashout fairly often

[obtuse wedge]

its just way too late, and the fact that they can still stays in match until like 4-5 mins late system decided to boot them, but its already way too late. Like in WT, u dont get to quit unless they got booted or u will be the one who leave first and receive the punishment

[woeful arch]

hard agree 💯

[clear crystal]

Rebalance the season pass the last levels are too brutal to complete unless you have no life at all. I play every day and have completed most contracts but still 5 away from the end

[mild veldt]

Please reach out to larger streamers from different regions to test out Season 5 or promote the game. While I understand you're already doing this to some extent, it's crucial to connect with bigger names to boost the game’s visibility. The game is fantastic, and it’s a shame it doesn’t have the player base it truly deserves.

Additionally, I don’t understand why there hasn't been any collaboration with real-world brands that would align perfectly with the game, like Monster, Razer, Gucci, etc.

The more exposure the game gets, the better. The closed beta and Season 1 clearly demonstrated the game’s huge potential, but it desperately needs more marketing! The game is free, the monetization is super fair, the variety of classes and weapons is excellent, but IT NEEDS MORE VISIBILITY!

E-sports might be a good first step, but people need to KNOW about this game. There should also be marketing efforts on platforms like YouTube to reach a wider audience!

[fervent coral]

Delete the vanish bomb they already can go invis with cloak

[rough storm]

Remove plug cash bonus. Since they implemented that in Season 3 it's all about steal and plug in stead of winning fights aka Luck over Skills. Idk why they making ranked noob friendly its just dumb.

[merry anvil]

I'd like to see a more organized ui someday. The game doesn't keep a log of your recent matches, only the total cash you accumulated.

Also the recent players list is not organized in a way where you can conveniently find another player's user name.

It took me 20 minutes to find the user name in the stack of names listed just to report a teammate using inappropriate, slurs and insults the entire game..

The list should group players according to their team or at least list them in the same column of names.

[proven vale]

Get good

[vestal acorn]

Giraffe Costume Outfit

[quasi pumice]

yeah ive been playing world tour for literal hours every day for the past 2 weeks and even that isnt enough. you cant even buy the levels on the extra pages!!! its maddening

[glacial salmon]

Witten like a true hypocrite, or as little as I did read

[chilly cedar]

stop listening to these nerds and bring everything back to season 2. all the recent changes make the game suck, it was way more fun back then.

[narrow osprey]

I hope embark reconsiders doing the new season previews on a weekday during the day

[waxen jackal]

How u create a voice chat?

[austere dew]

ya the current balancing feels pretty unfun. its like everything is somehow simultaneously frustrating to use and to play against lol

[dire notch]

bruh m11 is literally a gun that doesnt require a skill while doing insane damage. so the "get good" works both ways. strong lites play on anything but m11,they have many ways to flex with their skill

[zealous mural]

nerf the fucking dash, the uzi AT LEAST. THIS SHIT CAN DO 650 WITH NO HEADSHOTS IN 1 MAG AND HAS 0.5 SEC RELOAD

[silent fog]

he's a kid that cried about ppl putting nerf model gifs in here and now he keeps spamming walls of troll text, don't mind that weirdo

[quick coyote]

Add this as reticles and add that thingy like apex have, so I can see ping and fps, tnx

[brittle obsidian]

-Make turret detection area a constant a 90 degree cone. The "scanning" mechanic only makes target acquisition feel inconsistent. The turret will frequently "look away" from perfectly valid targets right in front of it.

-Increase turret lock on delay by a little bit to help console players take them out without trading a lot of damage.

-While locked on, make the turret's RPM gradually increase to 150% (60 DPS) over the course of 2-3 seconds to punish people who remain in its line of sight for too long. This will reinforce its role as a defense tool by making it harder to trade/negate damage with healing and shields, and forces players to engage with it.

[frank jungle]

give the announcer more lines, he's my favorite character

[versed hazel]

dying in game should mean u die irl too

[proven vale]

All I see is skill issue. Hit your shots and med or H melts lights no problem.

[torpid sky]

get good & learn how to aim & track

[quick coyote]

https://youtu.be/9iTVuUaH3pQ?si=_rqRFUAJBpwLJyWu

would love to see
1-Welrod
2-Sten Gun
3-Taurus Judge (shotgun shell)
guns added to the Light Class weaponry in future updates.

[clear sorrel]

Day 4 of begging Embark to fix the non-crossplay matchmaking

[silent fog]

REMOVE KYOTO FROM RANKED AT LEAST.
This map should not be in ranked (preferably not WT either), it's so fucking horrible to play on.
Looks pretty, but is far from a map that should be played "competitively".

[versed hazel]

I've been saying this forever. the map runs like shit on a lot of peoples systems. its been a major issue since release and regardless of your opinions on the map design, it is undeniably the worst performing/buggiest map by far. people shouldn't have to deal with this shit at all let alone in ranked modes

[dire notch]

i mean its not a problem for me,i know how to outplay it. its just not fun to play against those who have fun running around with impunity burning everyone with unreasonably high damage. similar problem was with cloak a couple seasons ago. now its just an ability and not "spam q with no skill". so m11 will be the same story. i dont see any reason for such damage to exist in the game

[celest forum]

Prestige mode, comes with unique rewards but we lose all purchased equipment bought with VRs.
This will make the grind for VRs more meaningful.
Season 5 I'm sure will be a great season but I can already guess the level cap is going to be 80.
Maybe in a future season prestige system will be possible.
Also please don't forget to add more weapon/gadget level skins

[shy walrus]

LMAOOO

[upper talon]

ridiculously high quality shitpost

[wild verge]

Do everyone a favor and nerf light… this game has been a snooze fest for multiple seasons

[thin pagoda]

get a new marketing team

[keen lily]

+1

[wicked pond]

Bring back 150 damage RPG and BUFF model

[wide void]

bait used to be believable

[crystal umbra]

Maybe experiment with buffing visual recoil across the board for the sake of the newer players finding the weapons fun and a bit more reliable since we can expect an influx of new players.

Finals to the moon

[dark niche]

everyone on pc siege thinks crossplay between them are so unfair, controller players are getting shit on and its not much difference on here (top ranks)
idk if anyone sees or plays R6. apart from this game isnt a 1 headshot game. so controller players on the finals have aim assist but believe it or not, its worse than last season by 50%

so either bring crossplay only to xbox / ps4 / 5 and thats it

or make this game a pc game as it already is, there isnt many console players playing on here, every game is pc mnk movement who can beam across the map most of the time, flick and even have way better movement and text chat.

so sort the console play out...

its not like pc players want console team mates anyway 🤷‍♂️

[glacial salmon]

Agreed, bring back the tazer that disabled both abilities and gadgets, idc if they can still aim though

encourage sticking with the team, the only people that should be capable of splitting are Lights and the other classes more at risk

[versed hazel]

game felt way more fun in season 1\

[quick coyote]

Metro drifter pack is missing from the in game store

[torpid sky]

it's on steam

[woeful arch]

I agree, it'd be nice to have this better organized + see an introduction of a brand new "Recent matches" tab to see recent loss/victory and who was on the team. It could even just be a copy/paste of what shows up when you press P key in a lobby currently.

[tidal shard]

the battlepass grind is waaaay to much this season wtf

[clear sorrel]

If crossplay is still bugged going into S5, I will quit the game. The fact that this has been broken for the better part of a week and Embark is forcing console players to get clapped in MnK lobbies is ridiculous.

[amber sparrow]

What's wrong? I been in them just fine

[hoary vessel]

this would be a great pike skin

[dark niche]

console community is basically dead cuz of it tbh.

[unreal fossil]

That being said, aim assist is very, and I mean very strong. You basically have a built-in no recoil. It's still not enough to compete with a semi decent PC player. But sometimes console players just beam enemies out of nowhere lol.

[karmic sandal]

Nerf famas

[woeful arch]

lots of us Casuals are echoing this feeling, yeah - when you have a busy social life there's no way this grind is going to work for a single game; plus it makes me associate the game with something meaningless with pointless objectives when I used to be hype and excited about it even beginning of this season; not returning for season 5 until there's clarification that the grind has been nerfed and that Casuals feedback is taken into consideration

[rough storm]

I don't understand why development ever implemented the cash bonus on plugging a box in a cashout last season.
It created this noob-friendly Steal-and-plug meta which is all about luck over skills.
Team fights have no meaning anymore as it's just steal the box, plug and run like a lil bitch.
It countered the third partying a tiny bit but created this whole new tactic/meta which ruined the whole ranked gameplay imo.
Wanna win? Play light, taser box carriers and plug.
Obviously players that are bad at this game don't mind cuz they still got a shot at making it to the final this way while skilled players get punished. Especially when queuing with randoms.
All that happens is when winning/clutching team fights there's this third rat or third party running off with your box.
Or you win the team fight, rush to the cashout just for another team to wait for you, steal the box with taser, winch claw or glitch traps and plug it and actually win this way.

In stead of this crap ya'll should have implemented the 1/3rd cash system.
Every 1/3rd of the time on a cashout progresses the team running that cashout gets 1/3rd of the cash.
Either that or just revert this whole nonsense. Especially in ranked. At least third partying was kind of counterable... while with this meta you can't outrun a light going for a plug.
The finals ain't The finals anymore in my opinion. It's all about luck > skills. Especially with the spawns of today.
AKA whoever decided that was a good idea killed the game for me and many others.

[slate mauve]

If every game takes roughly 15min and you get 2000-3000 exp per match. You are looking at 10 hours per battlepass level past 100,, without having any contracts/challenges left.

That's absolutely absurd. Worst season for BP yet. Even Season 1 was less grindy.

[brittle obsidian]

doubling a cashout should award the plug money to the cashout owners, or better yet not award any plug money. barely qualifying off a single plug or griefing out the team below you by plugging last minute is really bad. doubling should pretty much exclusively be a hail mary tactic.

[fast cave]

reduce the minimum time between shots of the Model1887, please.

[narrow osprey]

Please fix the matchmaking

[shy parcel]

https://tenor.com/view/bro-sounded-like-tuco-from-breaking-bad-tuco-get-out-tuco-breaking-bad-gus1897-tuco-car-meet-gif-1251097212852856054

[marsh elm]

Bring back console crossplay

[fading cobalt]

Wow, The Finals would never have this feature.

[naive sierra]

ltm idea: quickquickplay: all cooldowns and timers divided by three, movement speed augmented, shooting speed higher etc

[unreal fossil]

Are you all really complaining about this season's BP because the EXTRA pages are too grindy ? Well, they are MEANT to be grindy.

Embark started doing this last season to give the more dedicated players something to earn, because most of them were done with the BPs by mi-season at best. They were originally not part of the BP.

This season, they added these extra pages from the start. But somehow some of you think you're entitled to get them/paid for them. You didn't. BPs have been 96 levels in S1 and S2. If you don't have time to grind 100k levels, well... it is perfectly understandable. But if the next BP is quicker to complete overall, players like myself will have nothing left to unlock by 1/3rd or even 1/4th of the season. You gotta think of everybody here, not just the average Joe playing 1h after work 2 times a week.

And you don't even need to be a no life sweat playing 14hrs/day to complete a BP in half a season or less. I do have a full time job, GF, social life, other hobbies. I happen to dedicate a hefty amount of hours to the game these days -mostly because I don't sleep much and have other projects on hold.

At worse, if you don't unlock everything... you'll be fine. None of it is gameplay content. You can still play the game like anybody else.

[frank jungle]

Add a request to join option so I don't have to wait to be invited

[karmic dew]

we need all chat and all vc after game ends

[slate mauve]

I mainly complaining about the grind because previous seasons had more circuits/challenges which made the grind past 100 easier. still grindy, but doable. This season they cut a lot of those challenges/circuits

[surreal meadow]

never change the physics please

(-minus the cashbox pickup "too quick of an input" glitch physics)

[dark niche]

Console Only Crossplay.

[wild verge]

makes no sense why light has glitch nade when light is the most unbalanced class to deal with.

[woeful arch]

[molten trail]

who tf complains about glitch nades come up with something better 😂

[fervent coral]

Ion like how they can just stay invis damn near half the game cause of the vanish bomb and cloak…just take away the bomb cause ppl doin bomb evade now

[bitter nexus]

guys this is not a channel to argue, feel free to share your feedback and leave. If you'd like to discuss something, please do it other more relevant channel to the specific topics

[versed sorrel]

It gets worse every season for no reason

I will not purchase anything else from Embark till this is changed

[noble path]

revert goo gun nerf pls, it is impossible to kill any decent player with sledgehammer without goo stucking
if you do not know what i mean by "goo gun nerf", it is probably a bug, but right now it is nearly impossible to goo stuck enemies due to its abnormally small hitbox

[daring fossil]

the earn 1 million cash and 25 headshots beyond 35 meters are ass, and you know they are ass because you had to change the last headshot contract twice. This is probably going to be the first season I don't complete all the contracts, the state of the game is just stale, barely anything that matters is being fixed and it seems that the devs are almost purposely putting things in the game to piss people off. Everyone hates stun and winch claw except the people that use it, lets gives light and heavy yet another anti-mobility gadget. Medium shotgun meta for 3 seasons, lets give medium another shotgun. The devs seem so far out of touch, while the game gets more and more stale and broken. Vegas destruction still gets out of sync often, steal alarms still don't go off, gas barrels still teleport and blow up in your face sometimes, goo canisters are more inconsistent and come back straight towards you more than ever, and there's no point running behind cover because your enemy sees you for 2 seconds longer than you see him. Work on the game experience a bit, because it's worse than it's ever been. I just don't have the drive nor the patience to play enough to finish the grind anymore.

[rugged ivy]

I got those two achievements after some grinding but I'm too ass to get 10 kills in one round 3x 🙂

[simple quiver]

Make it so that we can go back to older battle passes that we bought to finish these bonus rewards... The only real way you get all of em is by playing the game like it's a 9-5

[maiden shell]

I want a 4th gadget slot

[bold moth]

buff riot shield's blocking hitbox on ADS
buff dual blades damage & reflect hitreg
make it actually possible to see the end hologram of your zipline during daytime-set maps
some weapons shouldnt hard counter others, every weapon should have a chance against every weapon

[unreal fossil]

As I said, I was done with it by about mid-season. I'm probably playing more than average. My point is that there needs to be grindy stuff for people like me too. Like these extra BP pages.

[azure ermine]

fix the reach on hammer and nerf famas getting hip fire head shotted over 100 m is bs and getting hit with the hammer when the animation doesnt even touch is also bs

[noble path]

• goo gun (well hammer is way harder to use now believe it or not, it's fine, needs buff if anything but goo gun needs fixing its unusable rn)

[patent wind]

thank you

[sinful mirage]

Embark, please please let us emote in the lobby, would be pretty rad to have something to do while chilling 😄

[woeful arch]

Finally got the "25 headshots beyond 35 meters" objective done and here is some honest feedback now that it's over:

• it was honestly interesting to challenge myself to change my gameplay from close-up melee to ranged, because I could remember positions I've seen other players in, where they'd be suppressive to the team's progression and I'd have pinged the enemy player + asked in team chat for a teammate to take them down but being the tank/support/melee DPS I'd never have bothered going after them myself. Having investigated and experienced myself how those players get in position, identify targets and fire for maximum damage, it'll make me more likely to switch Contestant classes mid-game if necessary and go after those enemy players myself. So it was actually positive, as I'll be able to add more value to my team overall.
• I still feel like to "nudge" me as a Casual + Melee player into this type of challenge, setting the goal to "5 headshots" would have been far more reasonable. Expecting Melee players to think and play like snipers successfully 25 times is, let's admit it, being out of touch with this specific player profile. If you advertise your game as being about team play, then you can't drop a solo play objective with such a high successful total on your player base. Introduce these challenges gradually, please. Never again 25-anything that's such a breakaway from organic, wholesome team play. As a brand, breaking away from your core promise and your value proposition (team play & team spirit) is the surefire way to lose a customer.
• I felt guilty when I'd focus on my headshot goals at the expense of the team's progress. I often spent extra hours playing Power Shift because I'd throw my own plan of throwing the games 😋 When I'd see teammates throw the game just to do their objectives, I'd do that too; but when I saw them trying hard to own the platform, I spent the time to be a supportive teammate and push the platform with them. The thing is - it didn't even make me feel better to do that. I just realized it was artificial game time spent in The Finals: the byproduct of not being a toxic player was not getting my goals done. It was not rewarding either way and when it comes to gaming, it's kind of sad to come to feel that way. Working on an objective should always include helping the team so it is twice as rewarding to work on it. Maybe introduce an MVP voting system at the end of each game, so at least we get to give and receive some gratification for doing our part of the work on the objectives? IDK. There has to be more ways to reward healthy players than cosmetics.
• Please don't gate-keep end-game Circuit rewards behind grindy objectives like this one. Or maybe provide 25 different objectives out of which 21 only need to be done. Or let us re-roll at least 1 objective per season in exchange of VRs. Every other game has this flexibility, as of season 5 there is no reason for The Finals not to have it. I'm not buying any Battle Pass until I know for sure there won't be a similar objective in the future. That and the grindy last 10 levels of the BP were a bad surprise to the point I'm renaming season 4 BP, the "Burnout Pass".

I'll keep an eye on reviews for season 5, love the game and it's been so far a good ride. Hoping feedback is taken into consideration and things get improved

[ionic swan]

this might be a hot take but i feel like the XP54 is unusable now. Its really outclassed by the M11 and (possibly) the V9S ever since the nerf it just feels like your tickling the enemy. Please undo i beg of you embark

[maiden shell]

I agree

[pseudo fox]

.

[gleaming crane]

yapsesh?

[formal rapids]

100% agree

[onyx crystal]

This is simple, PLEASE DONT GIVE REWARDS FOR THE WINNING SPONSOR. This will cause people to just choose which one is going to win based off of stats, rather than the cool cosmetics they want

[true harness]

For goodness' sake, enable penalties for leaving PowerShift matches. Even if it's a small 2-3 minute penalty. The game doesn't properly backfill most of the time, so I'm left having to battle another team with either just myself or 1-2 teammates.

[obtuse wedge]

will be cool to see playing in practice room as a team while searching for a match. u devs should know how hard to find a match unless QuickCash, i literally need to queue like a min or two to find a WT match, and im not even like a high rank or anything

[wild verge]

medium should have glitch nade and heavy should have glitch mine. light shouldnt have anything

[shy smelt]

Do this for most gamemodes for that matter. Except maybe bank it
I know they're casual game modes but this game has ragequitters out the wazoo and people shouldn't be allowed to just leave every game they inevitably don't top frag in, at the expense of everyone else's fun. Maybe like a quitter limit, if you leave casual too many times you'd get the same penalty as you would if you left world tour and just can't play for a bit, give other players some breathing room to not have as many sore losers in their games making it unplayable.

While we're at it, consider allowing us to rejoin casual matches after a disconnect, it's really lame that isn't being offered because in theory it's pretty easy to implement. Decrease the amount of time after a disconnect before teammates in WT can leave without penalty or players in casual can backfill too, it'll lessen the impact of leavers who have no consideration for others and don't click the leave button.

[ionic swan]

if something isn't done about the XP almost being on par with the 93R (which also needs buffs) in season 5 i will be mad

[maiden shell]

Glitch grenade also shouldn't one shot mesh shield

[karmic sable]

Give heavy some kind of glitch. A dashing light is impossible for a heavy using anything other than a gun that shoots bullets. Flames, spear, MGL.... All 100% useless against a light who can dash in for a hit & dash right back out to safety. & Old fat, slow heavy can just stand there & take it on the chin. Pair that with the stun gun & game over for heavy before it even started.

[quartz dirge]

play better bro if ur getting wrecked by the squishiest class in the game you should get good positioning or listen out for them or just not be stupid or aim

[flint turtle]

adding on this. This season ranked makes no sense I climbed to diamond hardly than any other season before, because of what the brother spoke about here with this third party cash in constantly running after cash boxes or when you que in a game and because there aint enough players in the ruby or diamond rank you go into games as gold or plat and go vs ruby then just because they're higher ranked than you every team is fighting each other ( meaning the other low ranked teams) only 3 teams fighting, while a whole team just keeps getting free cashout and we're here fighting for our lives every cash in and defending it, because you get third party on the vault, running with it, and while defending it like???? also the game is not rewarding at all in terms of defending, you hold the cashout for almost half the time or more, but still because you get third part fight again... or another teams come to steal in the last couple of seconds you get no points at all for defending all this time? ( keep in mind you already fought off teams to have it and defend it). plus the money this season just makes no sense at all. 1) you get the first cash out + cash in and some kills with a team wipe ok 2) you get the second cash out plus some kills and the cash in okkk, THEENN because some team wins the cash in for the last cash and the cash thats gg for you?? now you're third or fourth?? like excuse me you gave me 0 for getting 2? so basically I get 2 I lose to 1, but If I get 1 I lose to 2 just because it's more money???? makes 0 sense, every team always 80% of games wether world tour or ranked always has so much money, just lost a game with 37k and each of the 4 teams on the last cash had still 20k each like wth makes 0 sense, teaming is also a thing, freaking rubys helping lower ranked teams doubling and defending it just to kick you out, someone will say oh you play vs ruby you lose less rs and win more,... like don't even get me started xd. Ranked needs like points for defense.

[rocky atlas]

It would be really nice if, when voice chat is set to "Open Microphone", the push to talk button acts as a "Microphone Toggle" option. The current "Voice chat toggle" sucks for that since turning it off means you leave the voice chat and can't hear your teammates.

[onyx crystal]

Currently I don't think they should have to swap anything to other classes. This is the step to HML meta, having each class have something it is far better at than the others. For instance:
Light - Glitch
Medium - Heals & Revives
Heavy - Mesh and Shields
Every class needs something to keep it needed for a team

[dull kettle]

This is an accurate statement it only holds 30 rounds u could hit almost every shot and still not kill a heavy

[feral shard]

At least is in a better state than Cod Bo6's Warzone

[tame crag]

I think that to make XP more of a unique SMG, its rate of fire should be lowered, and its damage increased. A lowered ROF will make it easier to control and have better range, then raising the damage so it’s actually a worthwhile pick at that point would balance it out

[raw blaze]

yeah I feel like it's way too rewarding to just insert a cashbox and have enough money to knock somebody from 1st to 3rd or even 4th. You can get WAY too much money especially if it's the end of the game

[maiden shell]

Yeah it feels REALLY bad. Especially getting stunned as a melee heavy

[molten trail]

heavy melee mains when an item counters them but winch to hammer insta kill is fine

@unreal fossil thats the risk u take when playing melee. you eliminate yourself to using any range and instead use a weapon u dont need to even aim with but its brutal at point blank range. No one is forcing you to go melee nor stay in a lobby for 15 minutes. use a gun if ur in a lobby with tazers. nothing wrong with adjusting to what ur opponents use i do it all the time by switching guns/gadgets

[unreal fossil]

It's not fine, but they're not wrong to point out that playing melee Heavy against Lights is basically asking to get punished for 15min straight.

[thorny lynx]

Pure cringe brain rot channel. Buff model, Buff XP, nerf turret, nerf ALL melee
que @upper citrus to troll lol

[upper citrus]

https://tenor.com/view/what-gif-2786175780991966991

[untold willow]

Balance changes i am willing to cry for

• Mesh revert (or Activation cost instead of cooldown)
• 7s glitches
• XP 18 dmg (range nerf)
• M60 Dmg buff
• Lewis Dmg buff (Slight Range nerf)
• Remove Deagle Bloom and reduce dmg or range slightly
• Reduction of visuel recoil on all automatic weapons (Fcar, M60, Lewis)

Cashout Changes

• change plug amount to 3k, 4k, 5k (or change them to holding bonuses)
• fix people spawning on you after winning vault fight (you litterally get punished for winning box fight)
• Increase wipe penalty (wiping legit means nothing)

Private matches

• add ranked configuration of 3v3 and 3v3v3v3 as gamemode options

I have 1000 hours split to every class and in every mode, except for TA (that trash is welcome in the garbage 🙂)

[uncut gull]

I have some Dagger rework ideas...
Why not keep both instants with a right-click attack and a charged right-click attack?
If you try to succeed in touching down an enemy with an Instant right-click backstab on an enemy,
you will get an instant quick backstab on an enemy and become critical.
but the DMG that will get is only 75 DMG
And has a delayed pull dagger-back animation as we see before in the old OG The Finals Patch note.
And If you really want to instantly kill all enemy builds...
you need to fully charge the right click from the first startand if you succeed on it.
you will get critical 320 DMG

[onyx crystal]

Make it so you can safely leave a tournament after a teammate has disconnected after 2 minutes OR make it so you automatically get disconnected after 2 minutes

@flint turtle its not about the points loss its about teh fact you can get a temporary ban, and its not much fun playing with 1 or no eammates

[wild verge]

taser range is ridiculous

[wheat torrent]

agrees. there are so many disconnects. please allow us to leave without a 30 minute penalty if the other 2 left already.

[pliant glade]

People in ranked who aren't in voice chat shouldn't be allowed to play that or at least let console players see what pc players type

[maiden shell]

Specialization vs gadget. No balls you wouldn't advocate in disabling the glitch effect of the taser huh? Would ruin your cheap and easy kills. @molten trail

[flint turtle]

nah 2 mins is too short not even a time for your mate to come back atleast 3 to 4 mins, and if you leave you lose no points

[unreal fossil]

I didn't even bring up the stun gun. Lights don't even need it to run circles around a melee opponent to be honest (enemy Lights included).

Don't think there's a solution to that, though.

[molten trail]

if ur rlly maining a heavy hammer u shouldnt be solo playing lol... just be around a teammate or two and ull nvr die to a stun

[sharp violet]

ACCESS TO MORE THAN ONE SPONSOR ITEMS PLZ

[wispy root]

got a match of world tour but only had a team of 2, out 3rd left before the match started. leave warning suggested we wouldn't get a penalty if we left because we had a leaver, so we left. still got a 10 min suspension... fkn stupid system

[woeful arch]

[fathom turret]

If possible, increase the exp bonus towards the end of seasons. I'm not going to be able to finish the battle pass season because most of my challenges are done and I would like to finish all battlepasses. Please consider increasing this or adding more challenges for those that are behind. Thank you.

[clear sorrel]

Day 5 begging Embark to fix crossplay bug

[frosty notch]

PLEASE FIX THE FCKN BUG THAT DOESN’T LET YOU SHOOT OR USE ANY GADGETS!!!!! IT LITERALLY JUST LOST ME THE GAME RIGHT NOW.

[zealous schooner]

add text chat to console

[echo bronze]

While we're at it, can we get native M/K support added back to console? It might dissuade a lot of XIM users if they have a legitimate way to use M/K, and would open up a lot of console players to some movement tech that's impossible/difficult on controller. Could then use input-based matchmaking filters for ranked modes, if necessary.

[tardy thistle]

take it or leave it: You should be able to choose what you are unlocking for the final 2 pages of the bp. Right now, even if I played until the new season dropped, I couldn't hit max tier, so being able to not worry about the items I don't like as much would be nice, as the progress I DO make can go towards something I want. Just a suggestion. (SUPER hyped for S5 btw)

[echo urchin]

Wut?

[nimble anchor]

allow heavy to rocket jump with rpg /j

[karmic sable]

Play better? 2,122 wins, 19,144 eliminations, 4,588 revives, rising star 16 in sponsorship, emerald 1 in WT, platinum every badge except medium (gold), sponsor(max is gold) & light(silver) all say i play just fine. What I said is accurate. Heavy could use a glitch gadget. But as I think more on it... The lockbolt launcher coming in S5 might be just right.

[plush fjord]

Get me cars in the game plsssssssss

[wild verge]

listening to skilless light players wasnt the way to go. game is virtually impossible to play without dying instantly without reloading

[slow goblet]

Respect to it but cheating would be better off with fixing and xp is trash even with the nerf. Plenty of things can compete with it with upmost respect restrictions in the weapon category would be awesome since my teammates won’t have to be as braindead as I would expect so I can at least have a chance in this game🤦‍♂️ ranked for the console experience with under the amount of hours you put into this game but coming from cod gave me halve of my aim . Another thing that would be awesome would be returns for some things you really didn’t meant to buy

[wooden atlas]

I don’t usually ask for nerfs, but PLEASE nerf M11. It has been overturned since launch and is really the only weapon I still feel is really OP. Please give this weapon a lot more damage drop-off and force it to function only in the same range (roughly) as the SH1900. Then at least one can respect the skill needed to close to and fight in that range. A DPS nerf wouldn’t hurt either

[maiden shell]

Lockbolt would be borderline better if it's implemented the way I imagine...could be nasty

[coral forum]

major skill issue bro... gtfo of here

[daring fossil]

this contract is only tracking on kills which makes it infinitly worse than it already is supposed to be.

[lethal wolf]

Check out my skin ideas for season 5!

https://www.reddit.com/r/thefinals/s/KkDevWBkBN

[hoary vessel]

a chernobyl map would go hard

[frosty notch]

please

[opaque moth]

Add a "Caster" role for spectating, add a UI with all members on screen at once, can easily change POV by simply clicking their name/icon/etc, with more robust camera controls maybe.

[rough herald]

https://tenor.com/view/skill-issue-urge-resist-cat-gif-25536160

[high bane]

No matter what you do to shotguns they will forever to busted in this game hnless ttk is reworked for everything. LOL.

Any high ranked player ive ran into w the 200hrs ive played so far gets slammed whenever they switch off their crutch combo esp as light LOL.

[proven vortex]

The best skill issue is the new pistol inspection

[untold willow]

I had an aneurysm reading this, I didn’t rly catch what you meant sry. Could you use phrases or bullet points please.

Just to be clear I’m talking about a revert of XP to old dmg but with a range nerf to accompany it.

[rare vessel]

No it’s not?

[mental hatch]

All these achievements it just time required. Better to say your k/d and winrate

[serene crown]

anyone having an issue with finding a match in WT ?

[daring fossil]

ive gotten dozens of headshots and then pinged the location and it was over 35m and they didn't track, I got 2 headshot kills in powershift and they both counted

[quick coyote]

Nerf controller aimhacks on high damage light weapons. Still getting beamed accross the map from m11

[fading flame]

I am a famas user so no bias here. The famas is an incredibly strong weapon. I just played pretty mid and got 2000 more combat score than a god gamer using the r .357. Maybe a small nerf in necessary.

[amber sparrow]

Holy shit I forgot how insane famas is

[covert summit]

One message removed from a suspended account.

[stuck sentinel]

🤨

[ebon coral]

Geting hit reffed over and over makes me want to quit

[subtle saddle]

games gotten so trash 😂 this balance
i wanted to believe, but 1 balance patch at the beginning of the season just isnt gonna be enough (especially if yall just keep adding more brand new stuff to balance every season right along side it)

[granite schooner]

Why are the majority of servers for this game at this point complete hot garbage with terrible rubberbanding and desyncing?

17ms ping to speedtest, no lag on other games, FINALS has terrible lag 70% of my games AT LEAST. Fix this shit.

[dark orchid]

if you could predict where cash boxes and vaults could spawn, not only would the gui be cluttered, but it would encourage camping, especially for competitive teams who aim to predict the spawns of vaults
a minimap would be amazing for onboarding players and helping with map readability, but it would be very difficult with destroyable arenas

also idk how i feel about removing visual recoil and bloom lol it would lower the skill ceiling a lot unfortunately and i don't think it's very viable

[daring fossil]

are you guys ever going to fix this bug?

[pliant glade]

Let me CHOOSE what map i want for ranked. i'll wait the hour if it means i don't have to play kyoto. or maybe i'll wait the 20 seconds cause i'll get seoul under construction right away

[visual wraith]

delete the game

[dense ocean]

day 82 asking embark
let console players able/disable HUD

[dark orchid]

there are set spawns for both cashouts and vaults - they aren't COMPLETELY random; skilled players can learn where all the spawns are, but that isn't really required because they show up on the map the moment they spawn AND there is a windup time for vaults to allow enemy teams to contest them

bloom is super important to nerf the ranged capabilities of guns im pretty sure
if hipfire did not have any bloom, ADS would become completely obsolete
if there was no bloom for weapons while you are airborne, people would be jumping around all the time
if there was absolutely no bloom or visual recoil, there would be no difference between the LH1 and M11 apart from damage dropoff for fighting enemies far away

but that's just my take, i can be, and probably are wrong

[dire notch]

basically youre suggesting making the game more predictable and it even sounds boring..i remember what ideas are proposed every time by cybersports players of fortnite (where cybersports never happened),and their changes just constantly make the game boring for everyone. if a player is not able to adapt to the random spawning of cashouts/boxes and adapt their strategies on the fly (which is what the finals is about),then such people have no place in the cybersport of this game. there are many games where the rules are "safer" and more predictable for them,that they can memorize to the point of reflexes who and from what corner in what timing comes out like in cs

[quaint silo]

This is completely off topic but since it's a gameshow theme, what if at the end of every game, it shows a highlight real of the best play from each team. It'll be June and Scotty congratulating the winning team and everyone taking part in The Finals, and then showing a skippable highlight real with them saying "Here's a look at the best play from each team!" I think that would make perfect sense in the game, and would be a unique spin on Play of the Game that I've heard people ask about. I do know that they're adding dynamic billboards around the map in season 5 with the best plays and stuff.

[rough herald]

i use this clip form season 2 or 3 cus i didn't get to clip the one that happen last game

[tacit haven]

WHY DID WE LOSE WITH 50K CASH AND WITH EACH OF US HAVING OVER 12 KILLS. THIS GAME IS A GAME OF CHANCE. WHY IS THERE A RANKED PROGRESSION SYSTEM IF THE GAME IS ENTIRELY BASED ON LUCK OF THE DRAW

[wraith orchid]

true, tracking weapons will always have a disadvantage just bc of how they work

[coarse hatch]

Ranked and maybe world tour needs a lil revamp specially for higher elo. Right now it's impossible to reach diamond solo queue unless you get incredibly lucky. I have been able to get on leaderboards for almost every fps like valorant, cs, etc. but this just feels undoable. The devs probably know the best ways to fix this but if solo queue can be made somewhat playable for higher elo, it would be a blessing🙏

[plucky perch]

Server connection timeout the fifth time in one sitting

[narrow river]

I think wild card should be added to world tour and see how it goes

[keen heath]

Fix Powershift Spawn camping There are groups of people Abusing this and pushing the platform in a certain spot and then camping the whole game

also nerf taser Lights are still using it to get Free kills (Crutch Gun) all the time
A good nerf would be to remove the Stun effect after being damaged or Allow Specials to be activated during stun again

[dark orchid]

idk i think a set spawn for all things would make gameplay super predictable and boring to watch, but it could be slightly better than the current system
maybe different structures and specific 2 vault 2 cashout spawn points can be determined by hand and named, with different spawn patterns being chosen for each game kind of like a map system that would be cool - however im not sure how viable this can be

about the bloom, i think some close ranged weapons are designed to have some bloom even while ads, to disincentivise ranged play
the deagles are designed to be medium range weapons - if they had good hipfire, or were perfecntly accurate alternate fire, they would be broken asf

aim is a super important skill, but i think the ability to take a close ranged engagement is an equally valuable skill for players to work towards

i do think removing bloom for shotguns is beneficial - if the model and double barrel, etc all had a set spread pattern, like a circle, similar to competitive tf2, they could be more consistent and feel less luck-based, but that is up to the developers and it wouldn't make too much of a difference
unfair gameplay does make for entertaining esports, after all

[dusky seal]

idk if this is necessarily game feedback but:

Embark, you GOTTA get better at letting people know about twitch drops

at least have a news-card in-game or post about it on the socials. i only found out about it 5 minutes ago, through manually checking the twitch drops page and finding it while scrolling, i dont think the discord is enough to let people know it's happening, especially since it's only a 3 day window

[dire notch]

the destruction in the game is server-side. replay mod/best moment of the match would mean that the server (or players) would have to store the destruction calculation data/position of each piece of debris for EVERY gametick,not just for the actual moment,which is quite a big problem. this is at least cpu heavy calculation,at most-gigabytes (possibly) of cached data for each moment of the entire match just for the sake of it. plus i think its pretty hard to create a system that will realize that the "WOW" moment of a match was for example a last-second cashout stolen in front of three teams or something like this,not just another teamwipe. but pogs are usually determined by stats (like kills/damage),but its hard to determine spectacular moments,so i think a lot of people will disagree with what the system will choose as the best moment of the match in this game. it could have been a heavy who broke the floor under everyone and stupidly died doing 0 damage by sacrificing themselves,but saved the cashout from a steal before it even started (the system is unaware about team's intentions-cashout isnt triggered yet,only the players realize what almost happened) and the team from losing. i mean embark use ai,yes,but in any case,even if the system learns to recognize wow moments,there is still the issue of the complexity of calculating/storing the destruction

[whole belfry]

HI 🙂 Just re posting my small wish for Dual Blades: Please make the bullets that one deflects back on opponents head count as headshots like with other weapons. Im not a developer and do not know if this is hard to implement, but it would make me really happy! Thanks

[dark orchid]

mb i am quite mistaken
that definition of bloom is quite standard from what i see, so i don't really get the problem - bloom for weapons like deagles would make them less like the pike at range but better

making guns more consistent is probably good, especially for competitive the finals, but some guns would become unbalanced
recoil control is important too

[uncut gull]

Dagger Rework Idea for The Finals

*Left-Click: Swift Strikes
-Damage: 50-60 damage per hit.
-Mechanics:
A fast, standard melee attack suitable for consistent, quick damage output.
High responsiveness, allowing players to maintain mobility during combat.
-Use Case: Ideal for finishing weakened enemies or delivering damage in close-quarters encounters without committing to a heavier attack.

Right-click (Instant Backstab)
Damage: 75 damage on a successful backstab.
Mechanics:
Instant Attack: Execute a quick stab behind an enemy for moderate damage and a critical effect. but make a delayed dagger pulling back animation as briefly slowing the attacker.
Miss Penalty:
If the attack misses or does not hit the enemy's back, the damage is reduced to 50 damage, emphasizing precise positioning and timing.
Causes a delayed animation
Use Case: Encourages sneak medium attacks and rewards players who master stealth and enemy awareness by instantly attacking from their back

Right-Click (Charged Backstab)
-Damage: 320 damage on a fully charged, successful backstab.
-Mechanics:
Fully Charged Attack:
Requires the user to charge the right-click attack fully before executing it.
Instant Kill Potential: Eliminates Light and Medium Classes instantly; delivers a critical blow to Heavy Classes, leaving them on the brink of death.
-Miss Penalty:
If the attack misses or hits an incorrect area, the damage is reduced to 50 damage, reflecting the importance of accuracy.
-Use Case: Ideal for high-stakes plays requiring careful preparation and precise execution.

[brave leaf]

Can we bring map variants? The last map that got unique variant was Las Vegas and one of them is removed, I really like blackout variant. The rest have suspended structures and moving platforms, Horizon and FS have none and why some maps don’t have all daytimes? Seoul standart isssue is smaller than construction, centre of the map is unavailable for standart issue, finished construction works and closed the doors, you have creative team and map variants getting less and less creative. That was very unique take on maps and you stopped using it after season 1.

[dire notch]

speaking about pro's...what if..you look at it from the other side? like i mean your point about "pro's dont want to look at the finals because of its randomness". embark are doing things differently,their shooter is fundamentally (i think its not too big words) different from a lot of other shooters (randomness is only part of it),they dont adapt to the existing/used,they kinda build their own. its the same with the community. you think they couldnt ask nexon for money to buy a week's worth of streams from the big streamers? but embark is building their community. we have thixii,basil and others. those who understand the game,those who love it,those who know how to play it. i agree,most cybers arent ready to accept what finals and its random offers....yes its a small major by current standards,yes its "only" 100k,and yes maybe the game is more niche than expected. but maybe this identity will eventually make people start looking into it,because it doesnt play like "oh,ive already played the exact same game with a different name". in general i think youre talking about pros who already exist in other games,who will come to finals and impose their vision from other games. but that doesnt mean that embark isnt capable of creating their own pro players. what if the bet does work out?

[lost talon]

People be yapping including u @quick coyote

[quick coyote]

channel called feedback, good feedback is good text.

[quaint silo]

Hmm, that would be really difficult to calculate. You're right. Where the Finals is a different type of competitive shooter, it would be a bit more difficult to calculate, but I think it could be doable. It seems the game is becoming more and more optimized with each update, and the fact the game is getting a port on the PS4 proves the game can run on fairly old hardware, even if it will be shotty whenever it releases. I think really anything is possible for this game, especially with the talent over at Embark. I definitely think it would be difficult, but I think there could be a workaround. I'm not a coder or a game developer, so you probably know a bit more about it than I do for certain.

[wind meteor]

What bug? you're done with the sponsorship track. Now, it's only displayed so you see how much you earned in total, since the fans in the last 2 weeks are counted toward the "Sponsors showdown" that change the colors of the maps depending on top sponsor of it.

[wraith orchid]

randomness is definitely a problem but i think embark already knows this since the recent esports matches took part in a 3v3 quick cash scenario which pretty much eliminated most of the random factors.

[dire notch]

well perhaps it all depends on their intentions in making the changes. if its still an attempt at balance then at some point the changelogs will become less dramatic. but if these changelogs are just an attempt to shake up the meta..then maybe yes,its not the best approach to create a stable scene for cybersports which is kinda by default too sensitive to any changes

[red echo]

Bc other 2 teams had more cash than you👍

[tall wave]

It would be really cool if you could remotely detonate enemy mines by throwing an item at them

[chrome verge]

Solo queueing, has anyone noticed that every match after hitting Plat is almost impossible to gain RS from? I'm ping-ponging between Gold and Plat and my performance is consistent.
I'm also seeing way more cheaters in Plat

[karmic sable]

Better for who? Better for what? What I stated gets my point across fine. Enough wins, enough kills, enough xp to know what I'm talking about. Not here to impress you, those are the stats easiest to find & type cus that's what's on the player card so those are the stats you get.

[high bane]

I like how i reported someone cheating in this discord 48hrs ago yet no one can answer my ticket let alone even bann ppl properly, there should be no excuse for me being shadowed banned and seeing every game i have atleast 2-4cheater in both sides every game. Fuckingnuts

[silent fog]

REMOVE KYOTO FROM RANKED AT LEAST.
This map should not be in ranked (preferably not WT either), it's so fucking horrible to play on.
Looks pretty, but is not a map that should be played "competitively".

[upper citrus]

Csgo:

[wind meteor]

I think your mistaken, man. "bloom is where the weapon gradually gets worse accuracy and pattern the longer you shoot" this is literally the definition of a Recoil Pattern. Bloom is when the accuracy of a weapon decreases due to movement. It should be the lowest when crouching, and highest when jumping, with standing, walking, and running, in that order, in between. When the accuracy of a weapon decreases, the bullets start to spread within a circle around the cross hair center, just like petals around a flower, hence the wording "blooming", which relates to a flower opening. Aiming down sight removes bloom completely, and the recoil pattern effect reigns.

so @dark orchid you are right how you are using "bloom", but from what I see the akimbo is really being used to snipe when ADS.

@high bane you should report players from within the game. There is no channel is this discord for reporting. Also, tons of people reported cheaters and got an answer within the game in a time. Embark are serious about this, just do your job well befroe bashing around.

[umbral swift]

Please literally never ever make TDM a permanent mode in The Finals, Embark. This game is fundamentally designed to be and is balanced around being an objective shooter.

Adding it will inevitably lead to balancing for it, which will in turn ruin every single objective mode especially the competitive ones, because this game shouldn’t be balanced around solely kills and nothing else. Even Bank It still requires actually cashing out, it’s not true TDM.

People already throw enough of a fit about Light despite it literally being the worst class in the game and still demand nerfs anyways, let alone if there’s a permanent TDM mode. People will throw an even bigger fit and demand Light loses the only thing it can even pretend to still do.

[high wing]

what season 5 needs and maybe we can finally be out from current early access version

• ingame profiles
• match history
• ping indicator
• direct dms
• properly showing ingame status (e.g game time, round, etc)
• fixed and working netcode
• proper hit registration
• functional and fair respawn system

[wild verge]

Are we going to hit a year before bringing back tripwires and turrets, dead go boom & recon? Doesn’t make any sense why sonar grenades are in the game

[rustic birch]

SBMM turns off for about a dozen games if you go from playing only on pc, to ps5 and it felt great winning every one of my games with ZERO controller skill, instead of losing 5-winning 1 like I would on pc, but sadly it goes away after awhile and I came back to pc lol

[rapid galleon]

Make Kyoto & SYS HORIZON the only 2 ranked maps in rotation

[spring marlin]

Agreed

[chrome verge]

I do wonder why the game's matchmaking is always set up to place one competent player with two relatively low-skill players. It's set up that way in Ranked and unranked modes, and I see it in every lobby. Can the game really not fill an entire lobby with players at my skill level? I highly doubt that I'm one of the best players in my region at Plat 4 (unless the ranking system doesn't work), so what gives? Not a fan of being selected as the designated babysitter in every match.

[distant fern]

Please give us bigger XP boosts, reduce the amount of XP needed for the last 10 BP levels, AND make the battle passes not expire.

I don't care about the word "bonus pages". The only way to access those pages is to purchase the premium battle pass. The XP requirements aren't even displayed until you reach those tiers.

Embark is actively encouraging unhealthy video game habits to their players, including children, by requiring players to grind every single day just to BARELY complete the last 10 levels that they paid for or lose them. This will cause severe burnout, and drive players away from purchasing future battle passes. I've quit various gacha games, including Genshin, due to having to play every single day to progress, and I'll do the same to this game & stop spending money if Embark doesn't make any good changes to the battle pass. I will never give my play time & money to a game that doesn't respect them.

If Embark wants to retain players, give us good events with good rewards instead.

[twilit kite]

Another thing is the tracking dart, i can see it bug out pretty often and some players get the deteced effect the whole game.

[woven hawk]

I personally want the BP to take much longer to level up, like 3x longer. I unlock everything so fast it doesn't feel like a reward.

Challenges are too easy, I never look at them because they all complete themselves other than from things I don't use.

But I am fine with how it is now, a good middle ground. Because I know some people want it faster, some want it slower. I will respect others and hope they respect others as well WINK

[quick coyote]

I hope we one day get a thumbs up emote

[subtle oak]

Too early for an april fools joke.

[wind meteor]

For all that you are saying, I can tell you: you can easily complete the battle pass by playing 1 hour everyday, and doing the challenges. Battle pass is either a way for the game to make money, or a way to make people play. THE FINALS reimbourses you completely even before you complete the battle pass. So, it's surely not a way for them to make money, but to keep a sense of objective for their players. Therefore, play (not even grind) ❤️ imaging complaining because you want extra rewards for playing, without playing.

[echo radish]

GIVING A FUCKING 7 DAY BAN FOR CHEATING IN FREE TO PLAY GAME IS ONE OF DUMBEST DECISION I SAW IN MY ENTIRE LIFE PLEASE CHANGE TERMS OF SERVICE GOD DAMN IT ARE YOU GUYS THINK BAN IS VACATION OR SOMETHING? REALLY?

[young shoal]

Grenade indicators please

[lilac coral]

Can you please stop being a random

[signal basin]

**Read my name. Light is the worst class and Embark don't give a shit about it. No new weapons for S5. Even in Twitch event you give skin to PIKE and DEAGLE but nothing for M26. It's pathetic how Embark doesn't give a fuck to this class which is still waiting to be META someday **

• **NERF MODEL ! For real not this useless nerf **
• Add an indicator for the frag grenade or at least make them more visual ?
• Nerf damage Deagle at mid/long range
• Reverse XP nerf. Same dmg than a M11 but slower RPM and less bullets. JUST USELESS !
• **NERF CHARGE'N'SLAM. TOO MUCH STUPID DAMAGE **
• Buff grapple. Reduce cooldown by 1 sec or add charge.
• If Hook do damage, Stun gun should do. Put damage for both of them or no damage for both of them.
• Nerf the right clic + Dash on Light. You couldn't dash with your sword or dagger charge. Too strong.
• Nerf defib. Let's give 100 HP for every class. No more 50%
• Patch the level up bug on weapons at the end of matches. It's been here since many months now !
• Kill, Assist, Revive and Objectives points should add more points in ranked even with you lose T1.
• Fix the recoil bug/pattern
• Fix the spawn after a wipe, SHOULD NOT RESPAWN on CashOut and camping for your vault

More on the game :

• BAN CHEATERS AND TOXIC PLAYER. I'm done of getting insult. Report them do nothing. AND PERMA BAN ! NOT 7 DAYS
• Do something for the poor matchmaking in ranked.
• Increase the netcode / tickrate / servers ! Or maybe it's lag compensation ?! I'M DONE GETTING KILL AT 3 METERS FAR FROM A HAMMER OR A SWORD
• Let us choose our sight weapons at the begining of a game
• Let us go in pratice with friends
• Delete low gravity event. Just the worst event in this game.
• Some event appear in front of the scoreboard. Fix it please
• Random skin and charm list for weapons / gadgets
• Add a TDM mode for warming up.
• We shouldn't lost point in ranked when a team mate leave the squad and didn't play during the round
• Let us invite friends or join them in group even if we are not the leader
• Add the possibility to PM friends in the lobby
• Add the possibility to look at the profil/card of friends
• Let us leave a game without penality in ranked if we are only 2 or 1 in the squad !
• Some spawn are still at the opposite of the objective.

I will always post this now and add some changes time to time.

[high bane]

Bother, he was in discord cheating clear as day streaming it. There a ticket sitting there for almost 3 days. Look at it and say something but if i said some crwzy rwcist shit in here itll been seen QUICK

[shy parcel]

“buff light”
suggests to make dagger useless

[upper citrus]

Why are people so against grenade indicators? Frags are dominating high elo and are mostly skill gadget. A nade indicator would be great for giving counterplay to this without making the gadget feel worse when used well. It’s literally between this or just nerfing frags outright.

[thin terrace]

Hey, I know SOMEBODY out there is interested in "The Finals" E-sports tournament. If you're looking to make a team with me please DM ME. I want any class(I'm not racist towards ) anybody please message me. I hope the person seeing this thinks about the offer really good and accepts it. ANY QUESTIONS PRIVATE DM.

[tired fable]

because finally, we have a game that does not help the blind/deaf player unable to pay attention to their environment. If grenade have to be nerfed, it's on its damages or stock imo

[long arrow]

Wait Season 10 for that

[heady flower]

take thermal from light and give it to medium. it doesnt make sense that the only class that has invisibility to also have the only way to spot it. (make it a spec and not a gadget)

[vernal swallow]

please in s5 make it so I can customize teams in custom matches what’s the point of letting custom matches work with 2 people if your both on the same team

[golden harbor]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/714245295659024397/1251977229378781275/Card.gif

[rapid stream]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/714245295659024397/1251977229378781275/Card.gif

[whole belfry]

Just a rehash:
HI 🙂 Just re posting my small wish for Dual Blades: Please make the bullets that one deflects back on opponents head count as headshots like with other weapons. Im not a developer and do not know if this is hard to implement, but it would make me really happy! Thanks

[spice gull]

I have noticed 2 days in a row now some shotgun related hack. A light double barrel hitting perfectly on a medium distance, two shotting a medium. And today in ranked a heavy player with that SA1206 also just killing people on long distance doing damage like you are standing in front of him.

[shell flicker]

this is why u dont listen to lights u guys have everything and yet u still complain????? (thanks for reminding me for remembering that i accidentally selected heavy role i actually main medium lol and light)

[signal basin]

I stop here.

[sterile yew]

can we fix the sbmm pls, i keep matching up with players that run away from fights to leave me and die, and why do i match up with noobs every game and always fight high level players, crazy to think its gonna be fun for new players

[split mason]

Make the game better by adding more things in new season such as adding a new specialisation for each class like cmon man I’ve stopped playing this game because it’s so dead

[tired fable]

@golden harbor @rapid stream @violet elbow
who is the cardboard 4 ranked? the one unable to avoid a grenade without assistance or the one who has enough skill to not need it?

[golden harbor]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1271599511558557818/1314351036227518464/ezgif-2-b9a83c4b95.gif

[wind meteor]

The first sentence is enough to tell how self absorbed you are. I main Medium, and when I had a challenge to deal damage with a Light build, I switched to Light with a double barrel shotgun, with a dash, and it was the easiest I ever did. For anyone who complains about Lights being useless, SKILL ISSUE.

[quick coyote]

i have never even played fortnite but i gotta admit the game is killing it in the online PvP game, mfs always come up with sum fye, they are dropping 5v5 first person mode. was talking to this dude i met in a final match the other day and he was saying the game been the same since it came out, couldn't they come up with sum new to keep their game alive for another year or 2?

[vernal swallow]

exactly lol I saw that and was so confused like needing a grenade indicator is so dumb for the finals like what next adding it so you can throw them back???

[crimson sapphire]

Lmao bro why did u cheat

[echo radish]

no i saw someone i reported came back, which so sucks

[autumn sedge]

More lore would be cool

[slender sentinel]

Isn schmutz spiel es laggt nur ihr huan

[onyx musk]

Rudi ist am Rootieren das match über. Alles ruckelt Weil ihr spassten zu dumm seit für eure server. Mein jumpad wird wieder nicht angezeigt. Schaden kommt 3stunden später. Ich sterbe 3stunden später kann aber weiterschiesen ohne das es anderen schaden macht Weil ja schon tot bin. Bei den gegnern EGAL die dürfen das Weil ich bin halt ich ihr fetten fotzen

[high wing]

what season 5 needs and maybe we can finally be out from current early access version

• ingame profiles
• match history
• ping indicator
• direct DMs
• properly showing ingame status (e.g game time, round, etc)
• fixed and working netcode
• proper hit registration
• functional and fair respawn system
• proper and clear stats on weapons (numbers)

[upper citrus]

M11 requires great movement and positioning. Aim is not the only skill in the game.

Believe it or not, repeatedly getting within 10m of the enemy on the class with the lowest hp in the game to have any chance at killing them does take some skill. If you’re repeatedly dying to someone doing this to you, that’s a skill issue on your part for not being able to kill them before they get close or not being able to just aim better than them considering the m11 still loses ttk trades to medium and heavy

[whole dragon]

Nerf turret meta

[torpid sky]

[maiden shell]

I feel like not enough is added each season not including shop items, just gameplay things.

[echo urchin]

Super valuable, 1,000% totally objective, not at all emotionally biased feedback:

Defib nerf: as a M main; enemy should respawn with an empty mag, 10% health, and be stunned for 30s.

Heal beam: it should take health away from the person healing and highlight the person being healed with a sonar effect

Model: pellet spread should be RNG and every third shell should fire an apology to the enemy.

Winch: it should have a 3m range, 20s wind up, and a 3min cd, it should also pull the enemy in for a hug that heals them.

Charge and Slam: I main H but it should do zero damage and knock enemies back gently enough for them to accurately mag dump; the charge should also be slow enough for them to easily dodge, and the slam should do self damage.

Invis: they should be visible

Dash: even us L mains think we should only get one. 2 minute cd.

Sword: I don’t understand why this weapon that is literally useless except in really close range, is so dominant in really close range. Nerf it so it’s always useless or I’m telling my mom.

M11: look, I get that it has no range and insane recoil, but, it killed me, so can we make it even less useful?

Turrets: 50 health, no lock on, they just fire in the same spot until they run out of ammo. One mag.

Mines and traps: they should trigger a pop-up that says “are you sure you want to step on that?”, and give the player the option to say no.

Grenades: they should ask the enemies permission before exploding.

APS: that’s it, that’s the joke. The APS.

The game isn’t balanced until the off meta weapon that I main is viable in top 50 lobbies. Anything that counters my loadout is bullshit.

Anything in the game that is fun, novel, or at all challenging should be removed. Something something, low gravity, moving platforms, suspended structures, sandstorm Vegas, etc. but also, in game events are boring as fuck and need to be more interesting. No i won’t provide any examples.

Destruction is too RNG, get rid of destruction.

[celest forum]

I thought you were serious until the grenade part lmao.. @proper crescent the message was pretty long so I went to the bottom and started reading up.

[proper crescent]

You believed that mine part?

[dire notch]

i didnt say i die all the time,its just frustrating to play against m11 because of the effort it takes. 150hp is no excuse cuz lites have everything from quicker movement to invis/blinks/stuns. its a class of extra buttons. ive seen good lites play,they take advantage of their entire arsenal,and its not bad at all. neither xp54/stabs nor other guns were a problem for them,the m11 is just a toy for kids who dont want to get better. cuz ive tried the m11,and playing WITH it is incomparably easier than playing AGAINST it. so the damage is unreasonable

[jagged seal]

snip is useless in this game

[upper citrus]

1. it being easier to play with than against is just your opinion, you could simply just be better at movement/positioning than you are at aiming.

2. if you're watching a good light play, they arent using the m11. the weapon isnt even top 3 light weapons.

3. 150 hp is absolutely an excuse. the class loses almost every single ttk trade in the game. the POINT of the light weapons is to kill fast to mitigate this as much as possible and provide a high risk/reward playstyle

[fading ginkgo]

Sponsors and BP are to hard to complete

[quick coyote]

1 hit with model

[signal basin]

Yeah, that's skill issue. That why Light got the lowest win rate in this game.
And that because every Heavy got pro skill that they've got the highest win rate.

For sure dude. 100%

[covert dock]

Lol goodbye 💀💀💀

[echo radish]

did i wrote something wrong? i didn't used cheat

[autumn sedge]

The way you wrote it sounds like you think its too much

[wind meteor]

YES, I stand by it. And yes I am 100% sure of it after 600+ hours. The devs have all the data and surely know why they don't need to buff lights.

The reason Light has the lowest win rate, while it has the highest pick rate is a clear indication of the skill issue most light players have. Those who pick a Heavy Build, are more strategy oriented, which works heavenly in a teamplay game, and therefore, a high percentage of them win. On the other hand, those who pick a Light build are adrenaline junkies driven by ego and show off. "Teamplay" is not a term they understand. They're an inconvenience for the team they are playing with, and hence the lowest win rate.

I won plenty of games as a Medium with 2 Lights, only because those we were aware of each other, played together, and assisted each other in our kills. This has become quite clear time after time to the point that whenever one of my friends switches to light, they get driven by adrenaline, until I call them out for it and realize how important is the team.

[lethal wolf]

https://www.reddit.com/r/thefinals/s/KHZQq2mDoT

check out my season 5 skins yall

[rough herald]

that and anti cheat
https://tenor.com/view/eac-gif-25601190

[echo radish]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-wiggle-crazy-cat-zoomies-gif-9877358298643393466

[void scarab]

It's called 'Call of Duty Syndrome'

[dire notch]

yes,here,the second point is exactly what im talking about. cuz strong lites dont play on it,but you go to powershift to chilly do your dailies on med and circus music starts playing cuz 3-5x "pro" lites with m11 instead of doing their homework will be running around on cloak chasing you one by one without letting you do anything and its just annoying..and until you swap to full troll heavy with a flamethrower+claw+initial rpg+mines they wont even realize that its time to stop or get better on anything else. this is almost a non issue in wt/rankeds but sometimes there happens too. i play lights too but it mostly snips and (like literally the whole point of my take) a headshot to the head from sr84 at infinite range rewards you less than blindly hitting w and lmb with m11. the former at least requires skill..i have no problem with anything else with lights,both playing on and against,their damage is by default higher on any weapon and thats how the class is balanced and its ok,but the m11 and its reason to exist is the really big question. its skill-to-damage ratio is just unreasonable

[jagged seal]

dear all, I have been playing only snip for nearly 500 hours and even grinded to diamond in season 2. I feel like the snip has become a real garbage weapon (getting insulted by teamates even if i do more kills and objective plays). Since the beginning of the final i feel like the snipe has been only nerfed to a point that it is a reason to be injured by teamates. Could it be possible to buff it ?

[woeful arch]

Asking multiple times for players to earn 1 million credits when the game has such low population issues that it has to fill the queue with bot players who obviously don't act the way natural players would (OCD grabbing and dropping arena carriable, staring at walls or the sky, letting themselves be gunned down easy, etc.) all the while not letting that money be earned from Power Shift is really disappointing. It's starting to feel like all the game has to offer is some artificial grind to sound "hard" to play.

[sand hazel]

something has gotta be done about exp and the battlepass next season cause this was god awful. not only was this season shorter but you cant even get everything from just doing all the quests. all the extra items being 100k each is absolute insanity. If they are just supposed to be extra for the die hard players then it should be apart of the free pass and not just the paid one since otherwise its included in what you pay for to get it. the double exp at this point doesnt even feel like double exp and is such a slog to grind out

[upper citrus]

yeah we shouldnt be balancing for casual modes like powershift.

[high wing]

what season 5 needs and maybe we can finally be out from current early access version

• ingame profiles
• match history
• ping indicator
• direct DMs
• properly showing ingame status (e.g game time, round, etc)
• fixed and working netcode
• proper hit registration
• functional and fair respawn system
• proper and clear stats on weapons (numbers)

[distant fern]

I can't believe that some players even defend those 100k tiers, saying that "it's exclusive to the dedicated", "just play 1 hour a day",...

It's like World Tour & Ranked play isn't enough for them. Also, playing every single day will just cause burnout harder than gacha games (Genshin players will understand this)

If Embark doesn't respect my time & money then I'll just keep them "exclusive" to myself & not spending a dime on this game. Then the casuals leave, the game declines & those players will blame CoD for that.

[frank dagger]

Buff the shield and the swords for medium, they loose against guns in close range (i want to play dual swords so bad but they suck so much😭)

[thorn kelp]

How to call players out without calling them out

[gilded prism]

it is meant to be exclusive though, just because you buy a battlepass doesnt mean you're entitled to 100% it if you dont put it in the time and most people dont have a big problem playing a game they love for an hour a day

[lone frost]

Add Target dummies in the practice range that move like players when they are trying to dodge bullets in a 1v1

[dire notch]

its not about powershift,its about how the gun is played in the entire game. its funny how you can sit with the "nerf model" in the nickname because of instakills while defending literally the same thing in your class. you either want balance in the game or you dont. im not defending model cuz i dont care but i can just play along and say that model's instakills look like a powershift problem and it shouldnt be balanced and find excuses "it has low firerate/difficult to aim/lites just have bad movement". maybe then my takes will feel as fair as the excuses for m11. cuz they are literally the same

[daring fossil]

the bug that shows my level 8 gadgets and weapons leveling up from 0-8 after every game.

[fathom aurora]

sadly shis channel is still open

[upper citrus]

If you think model and m11 are anywhere near similar then this conversation has no point in continuing. M11 hate is a serious skill issue. It’s a high risk and high reward weapon that demands good movement and positioning.

You have the medium main role. Your class is meant to play from mid range. It makes sense as to why you’d be frustrated over a weapon that’s balanced around being cqc. Stick with your teammates and this won’t be an issue. Stop begging for nerfs to perfectly balanced weapons

[signal basin]

I should add all of your point in my list

[warm compass]

aim assist is zero in the final please embark fix it i try in practice mode i dont have any aim assist only rotation aim assist are you kidding me

[echo urchin]

What would be a functional and fair respawn system?

[cosmic narwhal]

Day 31 of asking for a ready up button

[eager ravine]

M11 punishes people that are isolated and unable to get cover before they dump the mag. I win against m11s all the time, my secret? I'm not alone, or I know where the light is running (usually straight at me if they have m11 on) and I just... shoot them

[brave leaf]

Light is fine either learn it or don’t play it. Skill issue

[thorn kelp]

I'll have my popcorn ready for when someone finds something slightly busted in the preview event or trailer and start ranting in this channel before the Season releases 😋

[tired bear]

agreed
the ban toxic people is insane, either leave vc or ignore the chatbox

[dire notch]

i know how to outplay it,thats not the point. its just that the game should have weapons that encourage skill and strategy,not the lack of them just by cranking the damage numbers up like for call of duty kids. the point is still the same,the class has everything it needs to be strong and relevant in terms of damage/abilities that require skill,and ive tried the m11-theres nothing about skill in that gunplay,such easy damage is unreasonable for the game

[woeful arch]

legit question: I don't understand how it'd change if they were part of the free pass ? Like how would it look different on the BP track/UI if those extra items were part of the free pass? how does it "guarantee" those who pay for the BP to get them without the grind?

@gilded prism about this:

just because you buy a battlepass doesnt mean you're entitled to 100% it if you dont put it in the time and most people dont have a big problem playing a game they love for an hour a day
I think that's up for debate from a consumer point of view: if you pay for an item reasonable effort is expected from you on some items but if you take healthy, necessary breaks from a game and still can't complete the BP then it's arguable that the BP is grindy and therefore problematic. I understand and appreciate both sides of the argument but the "you aren't entitled to something because you paid for it" is highly arguable as I see it. Not everyone can play 1h per day every day - life happens. It shouldn't be an expectation to play like this.

[echo urchin]

They gut the XP to be useless and now we have people unironically saying the m11 is op. Jfc. People won’t be happy until everything is as useless as the 93r or the revolver.

@misty rock facts.

[crystal umbra]

HAPPY ANNIVERSARY BABY, I LOVE YOUUUU

Make thermal vision a quick toggle and not a select & trigger

[simple quiver]

Make it so that we can spend xp on old bps we paid for but never finished. 100,000 a level is insane

[tired fable]

W trailer Embark... again 🫡

[bright knoll]

Any plan to fix the game?

[surreal meadow]

WHOEVER MADE THE TRAILER FOR SEASON 5

PLEASE KEEP DOING WHAT UR DOING

~ Humanizing the crowd
~ Individual screams & shouts of struggle of contestants
~ Action montage thats 100% able in game

PLEASE keep doing these style of trailers

[long arrow]

Embark its not bonus page its TRYHARD PAGE HOLY MOLLY

[neon moss]

not a fan of game mode specific challenges/contracts, i just wanna play power shift not quick cash

[eager ravine]

They can't make every gun a gimmick like bow, dagger, lh1. They need some normal guns like ak, fcar, m60, m11. Sure it's a lower skill floor but they have their role, easier to use but less potential than bow, throwing knife, dagger

[untold haven]

w defib nerf

[bleak frigate]

I haven't heard about power shift in a while. powershift is really in need of some map variants. I really hope that Mexico has powershift or is at least planning on getting it soon. It really is my go-to game mode and the lack of variety in comparison to other modes is a huge bummer

[drifting plover]

how are you going to get the throwing knife skin?

[molten pier]

L defib nerf.

[crystal mortar]

petition to add a ping overlay just like fps

[vestal basin]

**Day 353 **

I got lag in menu for 10~20 seconds after my friend list reached 100+, this issue exist since game release, if you can't fix it, just remove friend system, PLEASE

[tired bear]

defib is your best friend
the noises while defibbing, the player outline while getting revived, and cooldown already balance it

[barren wyvern]

who thought that allowing heavy to use winch and lockbolt at the same time is a good idea😢

[thick minnow]

I was going to ask if anyone knows if Power Shift is getting more maps. It's in desperate need of Vegas, Fortune, and now the new S5 map.

[plush grotto]

why does aimlabs crash my game\

[rough hinge]

Cant wait to play Ranked hide and seek with 12 permanently invisible lights

[hard river]

when you gonna fix the spawn system? we were the defenders but we spawnned 100meters away and atteckers spawn just next to the cashout...

[obsidian sail]

Spotting is kinda scuffed. Need to tighten the radius inside which you ping cashouts/vaults/objectives. Whenever I try to spot an enemy's rough location and it ends up being anywhere along the sightline to an objective, it pings the objective, which is worthless at best and confusing for teammates at worst.

[long arrow]

finishable in 3 days ? can u give us 10k xp per quest / game pls embark ? or QUEST VS VR
PLS PLS PLS EMBARK 100K XP PER RW IS IMPOSSIBLE
Reduce to 50k xp per bonus rewards pls

[sand hazel]

Good question! I was more so arguing about how people claim that its for the most dedicated of players, i disagree thats what ranked and world tour rewards are, and that there are plenty of dedicated players who cant afford to buy the bp. so if its about those pages being for people who spend the most time on the game then it doesnt make sense to lock it behind a paywall since then its not about people who play the most just who they can make the most money off of

[wispy sand]

Do not allow class changing in Quick Cash, loadout is fine
Quick cash needs to be where you "practice" for ranked or anything the like of it. If you pick a class you need to be locked into that so you are forced to get good or get out, by allowing the class changing you're introducing even more chaos into an already chaotic mess and in so doing removing any potential lessons people would have learned by picking a class (lights mainly) and getting their asses handed to them till they rage quit.

Now they will just switch to some other class, copy a loadout and play "Who can counter pick the best till objective is almost stolen wins"

It'll be like a constant counter pick fest causing untold damage to millions of innocent lives.

Please fix kthnx never add class change. Leave that shit in power shift where it belongs.

[spiral lava]

Hi, Pls update the private match lobby with: 1v1v1 , Customable teams(host decide or player can swap , add 3v3 option thx) @quick coyote

[brittle obsidian]

pages of patchnotes and yet light still has the exact same problems its had since this games inception, gg

[woeful arch]

Gotcha, thanks for taking the time to answer, appreciate it! I agree with you, I feel like dedicated players deserve special rewards but the last 10 levels of BP is not the place to have them as I see it personally. Hopefully devs think about some way to balance it out so it's least frustrating for all profiles of players. I think an in-game achievements system would solve that as many other games do it but we'll see.

[latent charm]

Are there Twitch Drops on the stream? I don't see them appearing and the embark post said there would be

[round idol]

give the new tv head skin a toggle-able face please, it looks dull only with the fire on the screen 🙏

[molten trail]

god bless defib nerf

[unreal fossil]

Nothing stops you from keeping the same class/loadout throughout the game if you really want to practice with said class/loadout.

Now what if you get backfilled right into an ongoing game and don't have the right class to help the team/counter other teams ?

What if you wanted to try something new and quickly find out it ain't working/ain't your thing ? Maybe you're trying to play with the R357 but your aim is shit tonight, you keep missing shots and getting killed. Maybe you wanna swap to something else that's easier to play so that you can enjoy that game instead of leaving it frustrated.

It's not hurting anyone, it just gives players more options to have fun in casual games. WT/Ranked stay unchanged as they should.

[fading ginkgo]

Make sponsors easier to complete I almost play dally and I did all of my contacts and I'm even not done in the pass

[lilac coral]

I agree man idkw people want to change there class in QC and this grenade indicator idea is nuts

[bleak frigate]

yeah power shift really needs those as well. the player base maybe doesn't play as much power shift but it could be the lack of variety in it causing that to happen. I wouldn't even play if it weren't for powershift lmao.

also, zero punishment for leaving powershift kinda sucks. the player base can be horrible about leaving when slightly losing. ofc I need to leave games occasionally but usually it's because somebody in my party's game crashed, or somebody I play with wants to play

[wise flame]

you don't have to reduce the xp needed for the battlepass just let us complete it after each season ends if we bought the battlepass

[hard river]

defenders spawn 220m away.... @rare spear @eager skiff @peak nacelle @full prairie attackers just spawned 60 meters away before this game,not the first time but it's happening very often pot us lot more than 100 meters away, this game never has been that buggy than now,

[tired bear]

rng spawnpoints in a fast paced game like this is bullshit

[proud skiff]

what if you could chose between pull direction w gravity cube. keeping atm heavy grounded from chains and new black hole. they need need to give what we have more real buffs/counters to make things fresh and unique

[warm glade]

JUST HEAR ME OUT
So if Light gets a double barrel shotgun
Then medium gets three barrels

https://youtu.be/pNc6gxssEQ4?si=UyDXq6mpVLExOjSU

New Heavy shotgun for S6 confirmed????

[violet matrix]

The invisibility in the new seasson is absurd 🤢🤮🤮🤮

[echo urchin]

World tour is a thing

[open elm]

Is this new talk of invis lights getting buffed true? Pls tell me I won’t have to fight Casper the ghosts all season

[drifting pawn]

Please fix/update riot shield so that it doesn't interrupt a teammate's cashout steal. i reported a teammate that intentionally did it like 4 times in a row and lost us the match

[bright knoll]

So many bugs, and nothing changes, just check how many players played 1 year ago and now 🙂 it says everything kind devs

[plush sand]

marvels rivals looking juicey rn

[molten trail]

so when the game got released? no shit the game had more players at start it happens with every new title 😂

[quick coyote]

Please add this gun for s6 and custom reticles asp🙏

[shy sphinx]

Add in stats by weapon so we can see play time or kills per weapon.

[long arrow]

pov cheaters gang b++g myself

[daring fossil]

globe icon is console? that's just aim assist. turn off crossplay?

[lilac coral]

Were the cheater

[tribal tapir]

this game is the best

[lavish shard]

Recap buff/nerf

Light buff
_93r damage + red hot
_Xp54 ammo 34
_Cloak dont use or less cloak if you dont moove ?

Med nerf
_Defib 8 sec glitched
_proxi sensor for M
_smoke nade

Heavy buff
_Meshshied you can spam but loose hp shied
_Lewis red dot
_smoke nade
Add more to the list

[quartz cedar]

Bring back last year's Christmas skins in shop or via event

[rigid bane]

i need restock outfit and skin weapon season 1 holyday 🥲

[idle crypt]

Yeah that’s some bullshit. I just had a streamer check faces for me. Only new face was for someone called dede. They themed an entire season based off Latinos. Mexico. Aztecs. But they couldn’t be bothered to actually add their faces. They want our culture but not our people 🫤

[light steeple]

The amount of no hits i get while using throwing knives is insane. I thought you guys fixed that issue but you just made it 10x worse and throwing knives, just like the sword, are now unusable. Why nerf light class over and over again? I'm an inch away from quitting the game and never coming back to it until you revert sword back to S3 and fix throwing knives. This, like most of the other peoples problems with the game, will most likely be ignored. good luck embark

[red echo]

These are the only changes?

[plain jacinth]

Heavy already has 2, so nah

[quick coyote]

Does this game have kbm support on console?

[plush sand]

you are delusional mate

[quick coyote]

No

[lilac coral]

No it was takin out in season 1 or 2

[hollow ore]

I’m saying the fact a rank game for 1,000 rs takes 40 minutes but to loose 1,000 rs in 8 minutes is making crash out

[torpid sky]

another model nerf when?

[daring fossil]

I absolutely hate that you can change your class between deaths in quick cash, I really hope this change gets scrapped before season 5 launch. QC is the most balanced and fun mode (even though spawns have been chalked all season), being able to change class between deaths will ruin it. Please just add TDM instead of constantly ruining cashout/quickcash with arguably stupid changes.

@proper crescent 3v3v3v3 is fucking terrible in comparison. I'm not talking about "more competitive" im talking about fun.

[proper crescent]

Horrible take, if you want it to be more competitive play wt or ranked

[wraith orchid]

please consider giving light 2 grapple charges.
(useless mid fight anyways bc good people hit you but would would enhance lights movement piwer)

[formal sphinx]

Try motion sensor. Takes practice and settings tinkering to get right feel but once you’re used to it, it can beam.

[silk moon]

Will embark bless us, XP wise?

[rigid oxide]

I see you guys received and implemented my idea for gifting items/style next season

that's awesome, you won't regret this 😁

Just in time for christmas too 🎄

[warm compass]

embark : is this game made for mk . controllers have only rotational aim assist it doesnt help add real aim assist thats why your f game dying

[lost talon]

make the recoil patterns dynamic

[slate basin]

pls back music from s1

[torpid sky]

glitch trap shouldn't have gotten a range buff in s5 it needed to get reverted to pre s3 or make it consumable like APS, glitch traps hardcounter lights and pretty annoying to other classes as well

also nerf model it's still op

@uneven dagger we asked for a good nerf that will make it viable and at the same time not op, like making it possible to destroy the hologram so mediums don't defib in the open and take the token to a safe place or remove the protection on defibed contestants or both but the current change is straight up ass

[uneven dagger]

People wanted defib nerfed and now that revived players don’t have their abilities I hear it’s overkill? Lmao this fucking community

[quick coyote]

Motion sensor is gyro?

[valid night]

sniper damage buff is too much plz cancel it when new season launch

[ruby raft]

stun gun is the most annoying ability have ever experienced

[formal sphinx]

Yes

[quick coyote]

Powershift Mexico?

[vast hornet]

shak-50 op

[graceful hollow]

it's literally just a map vro relax 😂🤦‍♂️there is no need to make it some big cultural issue

[ember verge]

The Cerberus shotgun needs a buff and I haven't even played with it

The thing doesn't actually light players on fire, it doesn't burn goo and it's damage and spread are abysmal

Give it more pellets and let it be able to kill a heavy in 3 shots+ burn damage

The whole schtick of the weapon is that it's dragons breath and it doesn't light people on fire, the burning damage should be a large component of the weapons damage

https://youtu.be/MpDVoIf7Uv8?si=-_fyT6W23vl5Zkjj

[proper crescent]

Shotgun, therefore leave it useless

[rotund roost]

FACTS

[full lynx]

Please for the love of god, remove the delay in which you can use specializations and gadgets (excluding the defib) when you get defib'd. God that is annoying

[steady eagle]

FAMAS? dude we already have that

[sonic spoke]

100% agree aim assist is aimbot level. but you still ahve to deal with it in PC with controller players.

[daring fossil]

yeah but not a lot of people use controller on PC that I can tell.

[weary lance]

fix the matchmaking for the love of god

[void scarab]

please add a way to communicate with crossplay players.. how else do i tell them that they majorly suck ..?

[idle crypt]

You’re right I’m just really upset Lmao. They added a female version but failed to add a male version. The season pass. A TON of Skins and maps are all themed around mexico and latino stuff. Them not thinking to complete the Latino/Latina face set seems like a dumb oversight

[smoky sluice]

once again wishing a very bad day to whoever came up with kyoto

[tribal falcon]

kinda wish they would give multiple gun skins for each sponsor so each class gets a skin

[spring marlin]

Buff the Cerberus burn damage or its base damage slightly

[lost talon]

double down on sponsor stuff don't turn it into a casual thing that people can calculate into the future, loyalty is everytthing

[muted basalt]

FIX THE FUCKING HACKER PROBLEMS! Again we faset a team that gets boostet by a hacker. And instead of banning the full team u ban the hacker that makes 10 seconds later a new account. I love the finals but sorry ur anty cheat and ur ban time sucks so hard

[quick coyote]

You did not just call this beautiful thing a fkn FAMAS! (it's vhs 2)

[wraith orchid]

what kind of buff are we talking about? havent seen anything

[turbid raptor]

It's a good map. I hope you keep having a bad time on it.

[pliant lion]

Honestly, the bonus pages of the battle pass being 100k XP per level is idiotic, I can get maybe 3k xp in a round when I'm lucky and sweeping the floor with the enemy teams. I've done all my dailies for the last 2 weeks and everything but 2 of my contracts and I'm still not even close to finishing. With 3k per match I need to play 34 MATCHES to get ONE level. If I'm lucky I can get 15-20 matches a day after work if I'm disregarding a healthy sleep schedule and let the trash pile up.

I've played a decent amount this season (for the fact that I have a job, a social life and other responsibilities). Due to illness I wasn't able to play for 3 weeks, but even if I was I don't think I would've been able to complete the battle pass. Right now I need 220(!) more matches for 3k xp to get to the end of my battle pass. It sucks because I actually really wanted the IVADA skins on the last page and it's looking like I'm just barely not going to make that.
I'd be a good end to the season if you'd be able to x10 the XP for the last few days (only towards the battle pass for example) to help the people who spent money on the game but weren't able to play 8 hours a day for the entirety of the season.

[rough storm]

plug cash bonus took all skill out of the game

[graceful hollow]

they will most likely add it

[quick coyote]

does anyone knows, MnK support on consoles will finally be available, in Season 5, or nah?

[uneven dagger]

I like the 100k xp bonus pages leave them for people who actually play the game

[rapid stream]

For when S5 launches please don’t go through with the defib nerf / glitch trap buff

[fleet socket]

Defib nerf should of been just for defibs, that way it stopped defib chains while keeping the item similar

[livid lodge]

It would be great if a wiped team will not spawn on the next cashout so they can easily steal the vault, especially if they just lost a teamfight

[upper granite]

I am BEGGING you to fix your spawns. there is NO WAY its intended that we beat a team in the last 1min, rush the cashout to the 150m away vault and they spawn 20m from it, between us and the vault. fucking kidding me????

[torpid sky]

that's the intended stupid spawn system unfortunately

[fresh granite]

They're gonna do it lol. On top of a lot more unnecessary stuff that hasn't been mentioned on-stream. BTW why are the dual swords the exact same? LMAO

[scenic kiln]

please cancel the sniper buff

[sinful fog]

No Breaking Bad references in Season 5?

[brittle obsidian]

the s5 glitch trap buff might be the worst thing i've seen in my life
@surreal meadow doubled radius

[surreal meadow]

WHAT
how?

[quasi delta]

If the sniper does more than 124 damage it's gonna actually make it go horribly meta.
You do not want this.
Please change it while you can.

You do not want lights one shot headshotting mediums. You don't.

[lost talon]

I just want this sponsor stuff to be as harsh as possible, battlepass is completely irrelevant to me but sponsor stuff gave the game character, if people wanna skip a season they should not be getting anything in that season just for signing up to a sponsor for example, not everybody plays every season. You can just pick a sponsor and then pick it again next time and you will be on the same footing as people who actually played it during the season that you skipped. The conversation around the game will immidiately become horrible if people don't care about the sponsor and it turns into just something you unlock and people start calculating this into the future diluting everything. Loyalty should be rewarded, be as harsh as possible around the sponsor system

[crude saffron]

yall lost the plot with sniper one shotting mediums lmao

[muted basalt]

Sad that this dev team cares 0 about hackers and cheaters we faced again (4 out of 4 rounds) a hacker and u doint ban them and not even give the lost rr back. Worst handeling ever. Like this the comp scene will fail.

With all my love for this game but who ever does the anti cheat should be fired

[gilded dagger]

Whelp I'm hearing that invis and sniper got buffed. I guess that's my cue to bounce. Clearly Embark only looks at ranked mode and don't care about casual play. Too bad I had faith in the game even bought the BP to support the devs.

[uneven dagger]

I quit the game you guys, everyone look I quit the game, guys, guys, I quit the game because of this and you should too, this game depends on me and me alone

[willow mortar]

I'd pay big money for a rat skin.

[tired bear]

cool idc

[wraith orchid]

who says this?

[graceful hollow]

yes

[tight marsh]

m60 gets slept on, we need a range increase, not as much as lewis but either recoil nerf or range boost for us heavys who like the m60

[visual bronze]

can we please stop with the easy/challenging stuff for ranked its really annoying and just feels like gambling it can be very VERY demotivating

[covert pagoda]

I heard the 93r will see changes this season

[ebon yacht]

Thank you for the music box! ❤️

[north spoke]

We need a mini gun for heavy 🙏

[split thorn]

ayo? is there t3 tournament on the game? do the game wants to be competitive on the scene?

[molten trail]

Music box is banging

[flint dock]

Infinite stealth while standing still???
Yeah ok but then remove the ability to charge up attacks while invis or attack straight out of stealth.
If they have to disable the cloak manually that at least gives the opposition a fair chance.

[round geyser]

I'm not getting any x p outside of missions

[silk badger]

What you guys think?

[safe peak]

Ability to hide PSN name and just show Embark ID, please. PSN logo is cool, but I don't want randoms trying to add me. 🙌

[shy smelt]

The fact that blocking people doesn't mute their voice/text chat and only has a 50 player limit is insane, why does blocking people even have a limit? It's bad enough that I get toxic throwers in my ranked games but now I have to hear them run their mouths too. They'll be silent all game and then open up just to be annoying. Turning off chat isn't a solution because it cripples communication with the one remaining player that is actually trying. It's just a stupid arbitrary limitation that leaves me endlessly frustrated, getting yelled at by teammates that only care about themselves is something I encounter in some like 30% of cashout rounds since launch, it is seriously worse than low trust factor CS:GO lobbies, I might have to just quit playing all together because I swear this game's community inspires some serious anger issues in me and the Embark ID system provides no means of managing who I interact with.

[fluid spear]

Floating goo barrel/grenades that can make objects fly. You can choose the direction they will float in.
A proper way to bring back goo plane with some other gimmick that could add to it.

[wispy ivy]

it does burn people, the burn just doesnt work against the training dummies

@quasi delta the sniper does 128 damage now but the headshot multiplier is 1.9, it doesnt oneshot mediums

[quasi delta]

Please do not make sniper one shot headshot mediums

[night glen]

@devs When you are reloading a shotgun and try to fire, if there are any rounds in it, reloading should stop and you should be allowed to fire. Having to wait until it is fully reloaded has cost me so many times. I relaize you can interrupt it by switching weapons then going back, but that soudn't be needed.

[patent wind]

finally a reason to play light and lets gut it immediately

[hasty haven]

Grenade trails when throwing them and sound would be a good addition. Can add different trails depending on the nade used or make em cosmetics. Would maybe not make me question randomly losing 149hp
(the defib heal disabling gadgets for some time in the S5 preview was booming)

[wraith orchid]

i mean i am sniper main and i mean sniper only for >1000 hours but 2 shot body is definitely to much damage.
sniper was already extremely hard to pull off season 4 and now we got the visual recoil buffs so i will have a even worse time. oneshot headshot could actually be debatable since the new fcar and other weapons will also be hilarious but 2 shot on body is definitely too much. i would like a 3 shot body kill on heavy and we could debate about the oneshot on medium. also i have watched several streamers trying sniper today and it never did more than s4 damage. someone above me mentioned 128base with 1.9 head multiplier.
i like the idea of 3shot body heavy but 2shot body medium is too much.
i rather suggest 120 base with a 2.1head multiplier because headshots are way harder to pull off than bodys.
also @quasi delta, how come you made it to your lifetask to destroy sniper xd. why dont you try to play it on the same level you play m rn first and see how it goes?

[visual bronze]

what the heck man why is there no loss protection from team mates abandoning. I should not be punished for somone else's actions

[torpid quarry]

Cant wait for defib to be literally worthless next season 😦

[brittle obsidian]

precisely what the dedicated support class needed. less support and more insane cqc damage

[quick coyote]

the finlas is unique and enjoyable but the new battle pass falls short, i am not excited by any of the rewards they look so mediocre that i wouldn't even bother to skip it even though i got enough multibucks for the next three seasons. 👎

[surreal meadow]

intended strength is still there, but in check

you can still hands free rez someone
you cannot chain, must wait 4 seconds longer

nothing has changed with the defib & still a must pick

[lost talon]

blocking literally does nothing you will still be matched with them wtf are you even talking about. Turn off VC and text for soloQ, thats the answer for you.

[quasi delta]

Nevermind fellas false alarm
sniper wont one shot headshot mediums
it was all misinfo from finals chat

[high frost]

EQUAL REGEN TIME ON HEALTH ON ALL CLASSES PLEASE????

[shy smelt]

Are you illiterate I literally just said it doesn't do anything
I also just explained why turning off chat entirely is not a fix
Why do you think I posted to begin with?

Don't participate in the discussion if you have nothing of value to contribute

[dense adder]

Lights not losing invisibility meter while not moving……NOOOOO! This is going to kill the game entirely! It’s already bad enough they can sit there now invisible. Majority of the players are playing lights as it is.

[sharp bolt]

no

[patent rapids]

I do wish that blocking did something more. However on your not of leaving voice chat. If you pause then go to social you can individually mute the one player that you dont want to listen to

[wraith orchid]

ok it seems like it doesnt headshot medium on head (just one dude spreading missinformation) but two shots on body. i would rather have it the other way around bc now there is no reason to headshot a medium anymore (except of getting them in melee range). but its difficult to tell if one is more fair than the other. (headshots are difficult to pull off, but the medium has no time to react if you hit it. also, we already have oneshots on light. on the other hand, 2 bodyshots are way easier to hit, but the medium has time to adjust through the low firerate of the sniper.

i came to the conclusion that it may actually be better the way it is planned.
well see.
looks like embark finally took deeper thoughts into balancing and im proud.😀

[lost talon]

why are you complaining about the 50 player limit if you know it does nothing (and it can't do anything in any scenario without being abused) and yes you should immidiately leave if you dont like the playerbase, blocking 1000 people will obviously not change anything. No matter how many buffs insects get, the class will always just be full of unloved children at base trying to farm clips for their little tiktok instead of getting plugs and they should really get far more abuse than they're already getting. Instead they're getting a billboard to show off their meaningless kills.

[tired bear]

wdym
each class has different health sizes

[tender sluice]

Please add different melee animations in the shop!

[zealous schooner]

im not too fussed about it as ive always played controller since being 4 years old and never had a pc, but input based matchmaking i would KILL for. ive stopped playing as of recent because eu cheaters on pc are out of control, and also because marvel rivals is a thing

[shy smelt]

Because I literally just asked blocking to be fixed? Are you finding logical fallacies to use on purpose or something? Where did I say this is an issue with just light? Where did I say not liking the playerbase is the sole issue? Nothing you post in this server since I first saw you active here has been helpful in any way, shape, or form, I'm not continuing with this.

[lyric whale]

bullet velocity? most guns r hit scan

[maiden shell]

I saw the footage and gameplay for season 5. Please Embark, don't make the lockbolt disappear if it doesn't connect to anyone, please let it remain active like a mine or APS turret, thanks

[light cobalt]

Can we get this channel to be a forum? Noone is gonna read all this. Please change this channel to a forum

[dark niche]

Ranked for console is so ass, im talking about plat onwards btw. controller players srsly cant really rank up, were not beaming long range nor can we even track, aim assist is kinda poor apart from that, i feel like Solo Queuing should be better what i mean is u gain more but lose less, it shouldnt really be fair to not co ordinate with your team mates (text chat)

[valid canyon]

can we please buff light and up teamwipe to 30% that would fix third partying and it would also let people play high elo as a light

[torpid quarry]

And theyre about to make recoil control easier (for m&k)

[potent solar]

lmao at these nerf sniper takes. lets try it first. 1k+ hours on it in ranked + wt, its not the oppressive weapon people say it is by a long shot. very difficult.

hardly used in the preview btw...hmm

[quick coyote]

the devs said at the Q&A that they're working on MnK support for consoles.
the thing is, with controller u're absolutely clueless, from Plat, and i feel the same.
I stopped playing until MnK arrives, but i highly doubt that Season 5 will introduce it, and its a shame.
a lot of players quit the game due to controller only option.

[fast lion]

Can we get a virtual extension skin for the ks-23? The real life version of the shotgun looks really cool

[naive sky]

Cant hear teammates in game but they can hear me. Only happens with this game and i dont know why.

[fresh granite]

Slow deplete cloak when standing still should've been the last item on the buff list, that's going to be horrendous.

How about loss protection on the first ranked game of the day? Maybe only for ranks above plat (where it actually matters, because diamond this season has 350rs wins and -800rs 7th/8th)

[torpid sky]

no

[teal bear]

The lack of goo gun Skins is a serious emergency and is making the game LITERALLY UNPLAYABLE FOR ME. is there a dev in the chat I can speak to about this

[light cobalt]

No thank you, I would disagree. The movement for The finals is fast, meaning hitting shots for the sniper is actually quite difficult compared to other games. Also, the environment is filled with cover, so that's a skill issue if you can't find a house near you to hide in. Plenty of cover and fast movement (don't forget the light class's ability invisibility cloak)

[shell raven]

sight skins

[quaint silo]

Something I'd like to see is a walk out anthem. Whenever someone won their last match or did really well their last match, it should play a song that they selected in the Jukebox for everyone to hear for about 3 seconds in their next match. It's something completely unnecessary, but I think it would get people pumped up

[potent solar]

granted I haven't played it but in watching the preview mexico feels a little empty in terms of life. what about adding some music (like vegas), maybe some pinatas to shoot and melee?

I think its partly because it was quickcash so more running with just one cashout, but either way I think a little culture could help

[night glen]

FUCK SPAWNING 260 METERS away... Stupid Shit

[sonic arrow]

9 words: the cloaking device is way too easy too see

[undone dagger]

Can I please use the butcher mask with other hats? Unable to do that but you can with the season 4 skull face mask

[cunning aspen]

can we get a space map and an underwater map, not more random towns please

[granite agate]

NERF DUAL BLADES 🗣️🗣️🗣️🔥🔥🔥❗❗❗

[tame crag]

Please reduce the size of the 93R by a little bit, it’s just a bit big on the screen

[echo urchin]

Cane we get a “Caliente!” Sound expression?

[dire bay]

I would love if they added the ability to put more than 1 sticker on a gun. Possibly 2 or 3??

[sleek yoke]

WingedGrenade#0005 and asdfgh#5467 cheating boosting Semaglutide#5336

[rough storm]

Ranked be like = win every engagement - lose becouse some random guy gets that last plug cash and win.
Finals became all about avoiding fights and running after cashboxes. What has become of this game.

[gilded hull]

REAL
space map, sky map, underwater map

[maiden shell]

I want a midevil map. Also Dear embark, I've seen gameplay of the lockbolt launcher. Please make it remain active even if it doesn't instantly connect with an enemy like a mine or APS.

[surreal meadow]

~ Show ranks
~ Noone wants to fight the Ruby team
~ Orange & Purple fight the whole game, for nothing
~ Blue, Orange, Purple third party & third party, Pink AFKs for free cashouts, 3 sets in a row (orange/purple mostly fought eachother)
~ Pink legit AFK every cashout and get a free win, only fight is a third party - to grief us out at the very final set (it was pinks only kill)

Pink got 1st btw, noone contested
Orange 2nd
Purple 3rd
Blue 4tf

please stop showing ranks in ranked, until the end
please fix third partying
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1309561814228406365/1315864399935832104/image.png?ex=6758f5b8&is=6757a438&hm=321a7641a7f6970d26559d3ba3ba30495f7221dc861983bc4fa49362dd4c03ae&

[hybrid hearth]

🎄 I HAVE A WEAPON SKIN IDEA🎄
The throwing knives need a Christmas Cookie skin where you throw Christmas Cookies at your opponent.

[echo urchin]

Cane we get a “Caliente!” Sound expression?

[shy smelt]

Holy...

[glass sequoia]

This can probably be taken... Differently than intended. by some people

[wild verge]

damn the skill issue is crazy.. nerf light to the ground so the game can be fun again

[slate mauve]

this game has no anticheat

reports go straight to the trash

why do i even bother reporting.

[mellow geyser]

Stu gun is not fun. Add that to the list.

[celest forum]

Incoming mesh shield buff is a huge W.
I'm going to give it a bit before I give a final statement but I think it is a good trade off but with more starting HP.
° STARTING MESH HP 1250 WITH 0 COOL DOWN/ -250 HEALTH PER JUGGLE

[peak wagon]

For the love of god please stop making me lose RS if I load in with only 2 people on ranked, I don’t see how that’s fair at all

[valid canyon]

bro buff light lights already bad enough u sound like ur the most casual player of all time and have never played ranked and on that note embark plz fix when i throw tk it doesnt register sometimes

[maiden shell]

I agree!

[upper citrus]

light buffs in the preview event 🤑

no visual recoil on LH1 and giant cloak buff

[quick coyote]

Details on cloak buff?

[tribal spoke]

You dont lose charge while stationary

[wild verge]

average obsessed user. feedback: lights need to be nerfed

[onyx crystal]

THERES A CLOAK BUFF?!??!? FINALLY

[cold willow]

Least obvious ragebait
Also embark please let us customise the victory music

[edgy urchin]

skill issue, cardboard 4

[junior viper]

Why did it take like a year just to remove visual recoil embark?

[crude brook]

medium stun when?
medium stun when?
medium stun when?
medium stun when?
-or-
remove stun when?
remove stun when?
remove stun when?
remove stun when?

[hasty whale]

Remove all CC

[upper citrus]

Who is this strong sexy ass mf??? I heard he got his main light loadout hard buff this season 🤑

and the ospuze shirt his girlfriend bought him fits nice

[maiden shell]

Heavy should be the only class with CC

[copper lark]

s5 cooked ngl

[fringe ore]

please revert the battlepass level xp values, it was a fun grind before but now its ridiculous. Almost all challenges done and im still 5 pages from the end.

[solemn sedge]

3 course meal. Prepped by friends Abuela herself, and just like her food, I have to eat it (get the diamond and emerald skins again).

[quick coyote]

This isn't game feedback, it's about the promotional videos... I always feel like I'm having a psychotic seizure while watching with the constant barrage of flashes and explosions and stuff

[uneven dagger]

I like the epilepsy

[warped tapir]

I hate headshot missions, I'm not that good being a sniper guy and doing them is a real pain in the butt

[tame nimbus]

These challenges hard asf😩

[wild verge]

this is jus embarrassing

[vague maple]

You don't need headshot kills for the headshot challenge but boy is it not fun to just shove my team into a corner for ransom against the challenge.
basically just sitting back with the m11 or xp and just spraying into a target at a distance just to get the occasional headshot on them.

[blissful mesa]

are the defib nurf rumors true?

[upper citrus]

Nah it’s goat 🐐

[onyx crystal]

🗿

[proven vale]

Lights are masterclass

[hoary vessel]

nerf m11 firerate and range

[surreal meadow]

you have a scam link in ur profile on an alt account

[solemn sedge]

Add The Freaky Finalist to the game plz
His name is Freaky and he loves The Finals
If he gets enough support he can be added to the game
Make Freaky happy :D

[reef jasper]

currently in game playing against clear aimbot

[finite briar]

new meta? I heard it got scope?

[dark niche]

cloak did not need a buff what 😭

[formal rapids]

This

[north spoke]

WE NEED HEAVY MINI GUN!!!!!!

[uneven dagger]

DELETE THIS CHANNEL AND MY LIFE IS YOURS

[edgy urchin]

such a skilled lobby! teleporting and spam clicking

[inland steppe]

Hello there, does anyone knows what to do if i get error code tfge0024?

[crystal umbra]

Spectate mode from the crowd? 👀🤫

[fading flame]

I started using the xp-54 and in short, you gotta nerf the mag size of damage on that thing because I can melt a heavy in a second.

[maiden shell]

I don't know what a link shortiner is

[molten trail]

Light buffs

[floral shoal]

Please don't make the bonus pages worth 100,000 XP again. Go back to the 70,000 XP from Season 3.

[indigo gull]

i beg you embark please bring back kbm support on xbox

[zenith pawn]

Quick hot take thing: Im not really a fan of the chosen emerald skins, i hate to get emerald for a gun i dont like or use often. Id like if there was a feature to replace the 3 chosen emerald skins with tokens you can use to choose which skin you like. Just me tho.

[thick sorrel]

Why? A Heavy melts Light in half a second...

[fervent coral]

I want the winch claw disabled til further notice (im complaining)

[shy smelt]

#video-player-reports

[noble path]

Fix goo gun hitbox, goo stuck from torso not possible

[quick coyote]

make a duos mode

[fading flame]

Run

[smoky sluice]

it’s 1.43 sec to kill a heavy, while a heavy can kill a light in 0.60 seconds with m60 or 0.62 with lewis gun. or even faster with sa1216 (0.43) seconds

[reef jasper]

this

[wild verge]

dw everyone here will do anything but admit light is broken

[nova osprey]

Day 1
Minigun Specialization:
Does 1 damage to people on body, 2 on headshot.

Does 50 damage to arena, and has 100 rounds
Has a 90second cool down and can’t be cooled down until all 100 rounds are short

Shoots 25 rounds per second

Can be shot through the gateway

[signal basin]

Love how many people here is complaining when I ask to buff light. This is the exact same M and H player who gonna cry IG because their mate play Light. Fking hypocrite.

If you can't kill a 150hp player with at least +100hp and more, YOU got skill issue guys, not me.

[half briar]

Looks like Season 5 is the "take a break" season until Embark can rework light so that:

• their existence doesn't require constantly nerfing medium and heavy teamwork abilities
• they can be useful and very high rank
• they don't completely ruin the experience for the bottom 90% of players

Will keep an eye out for patch notes, but not going to reward Embark with my hours or money this season.

[fervent coral]

Half their inventory is “free kill” stuff if we being completely honest

[main beacon]

defib nerf should only put defib on CD not all gadgets and specs

[molten trail]

nah. now u actually have to revive ur teammates in smart positionings instead of it being complete brainrot

[lyric whale]

its good it means people have to think instead of just defibing

[slate mauve]

I don't know what game designer thinks having a matchmaker that forces you to carry players who are no where near your level against players that are at or above your level is good design.

With all the statistics this game has per player and per match (objective score, support, combat), you would think some ounce of logic goes into the matchmaking experience.

instead you are forced to lose 56% of the time. leavers are not punished, losses are not forgiven, balancing issues out the wazoo, backfilling games based on time, putting you on teams obviously have no other preference than to throw games and dickaround, and what else?

is it supposed to be like this? is this the "fun" that we're told to buy into? at what point do you realize that the majority of the experience playing the finals is negative. we are not all teaming up, ruby/diamond, cashout gods...some of us want to have fun games that are just balanced and close. not one sided garbage that keeps me from recommending this game to anyone. it's fucking bullshit and im tired of coping with all the flaws.

[maiden shell]

"their existence doesn't require constantly nerfing medium and heavy teamwork abilities" 🔥🔥🔥🔥damn bro so true

[shrewd comet]

If something doesn't change next season concerning balancing the light class and the grindiness of the battle pass then business and players will be lost because many people have told me they just won't play anymore due to not being able to complete the battle pass or play a fair, fun, casual game. The current situation makes the game feel very sweaty and that route is not a good idea unless you're trying to make a Ubisoft game. Please consider these changes in the next season of the finals. More casual battle pass level XP amounts and contracts, balance lights, improve skill based matchmaking. Thank you. (This is feedback based off what I've heard from other players that I agree with, not my own experience)

[uncut gull]

Dagger rework idea

Left-Click (Standard Attack)

Damage: Fixed at 50 per hit.

Mechanic:
-Performs simple, repetitive slashes/stabs for consistent damage.
-Effective for sustained engagements in close combat.

Purpose:
-A basic tool for Chip damage, Finishing off wounded enemies.And Combating in situations where backstab opportunities are unavailable.

---

Right-Click (Backstab Options) [new rework]

1. Instant Backstab

Damage:
80 to the back (critical).
50 if it hits non-back regions or misses.

Mechanic:
-Tap right-click once to perform a single, forceful instant stab aimed at the enemy’s back.
-Includes a 2-second pull-back delay animation after execution, regardless of success.

Purpose:
-A quick and decisive attack for punishing vulnerable enemies with minimal setup.

2. Charged Backstab

Damage:
320 to the back (critical).
50 if hitting non-back regions or missing.

Mechanic:
-Hold right-click to charge the attack, with the character raising the dagger in a deliberate motion.

• Release right-click to execute the stab when fully charged; releasing early cancels the action with no attack.
• Includes a 2-second pull-back delay animation after execution.

Purpose:
-A high-damage, precision-based finisher for taking down key targets.

---

Effectiveness against build:

Light Build (150 HP)

• Left Click: 3 hits (50 dmg each).
• Instant Backstab: 2 hits (80 dmg each).
• Charged Backstab: Overkill (1 hit, 320 dmg).

Medium Build (250 HP)

• Left Click: 5 hits.
• Instant Backstab: 4 hits. (Or 3 hits + 1 follow up)
• Charged Backstab: 1 hit (320 dmg).

Heavy Build (350 HP)

• Left Click: 7 hits.
• Instant Backstab: 5 hits.(Or 4 hits + follow up)
• Charged Backstab: 1 hit (leaves 30 HP), follow with any attack.

[faint sundial]

PLEASE ADD SOME FORM OF INFO ON WHERE A FRAG ON THE GROUND IS

[graceful hollow]

bro needs to be spoon-fed by his games

[wild verge]

jus wait until the light mains respond saying "skill issue" cuz they're friendless

[blissful bridge]

https://tenor.com/view/outerspacefrisbee-nerf-fingerguns-fingerbang-the-gif-22912778

[hoary vessel]

add an option to disable hands or change viewmodel fov

[smoky sluice]

it’s the get killed for free class

[fervent coral]

Thats definitely how I view it cause most of the users fucking suck with it

[finite crow]

Hi Guys im New and I don’t good englisch

[signal basin]

Otherside, you've got model,famas,ak,fcar,rpg,frag, charge, hook+Hammer who can instant any light. If you want kill on Light you to play in CQC. With 150hp. XP become trash. Sniper and bow are not usefull for your team. So... yeah, let's rush into CL40 and hammer

When I look at all your message @proven vale you must be a bit degen in some way.

[clever bone]

hell nah first you changed ur profile to another person and now ur at it again💀

[granite flint]

can i see my 'ms' in the game please and see my packet lost please

[wraith orchid]

i can smell revolver and sniper going to become a big topic this season ☹️ and i dont like it bc i am sniper main and although a buff is justified i can smell the upcomimg toxicity destroying embarks brains again😩

[keen lily]

any chance to get the patch notes before the season starts?

[glass fjord]

can we please change our player number.... please. even if its a random reroll once a month or something

[onyx crystal]

I think it recieves a buff to 18 dmg in S5

@glass fjord good idea tbh give us something to use VRs for maybe?

[quick trellis]

Don't know why they changed the XP gains. 5 days ago, I'd get 4K XP for completing a match (5K if I won). 3 days ago it was half that. Now I'm lucky if I can break 1.7K XP a match, win or lose. Doesn't make sense why they made it slower so close to the end, no one wants to make the grind to complete the battle pass when it's that slow, especially when it was faster a few days before

[ionic dawn]

Same thoughts here, I came so close I don’t know how I’m going to go up 5 tiers in this economy

[spiral crypt]

I think you should add refunds to the game because sometimes i regret my purchase but i can refund please add refund

[slow goblet]

Honestly embark, we have had a good and terrible season and the year was good don’t get me wrong but how the game started was better than how the game is going currently. Yes, I missed the 1st seasons battle pass and I just wasted my credits on some bundle that wasn’t intended to by. I would love to be able to return this bundle and grab a different one or get next seasons battle pass so I won’t be disappointed if it ends up being very good like this season and the last. The games that I have played for ranked are simply braindead and I don’t really like it due to the simple lack of matchmaking that drags me around for just wanting to achieve ruby or even diamond without crying and breaking countless controllers ( help. ) to just be able to compete with this game could we not get penalized for our teammates leaving mid match while not competing against top 250 from cod? It would also be awesome if we could get an event that could give us enough credits for the battle pass or even enough for you to buy a bundle🤷‍♂️ I just don’t wanna be broken to the bare bone of this game without achieving what I desire the most

[smoky sluice]

it’s really hard to play, or to be useful for the team with it, that’s also why almost nobody plays it in ranked.

[plush fjord]

🤡

[wild verge]

u can keep obsessing over me

[vestal basin]

**Day 354 **

I got lag in menu for 10~20 seconds after my friend list reached 100+, this issue exist since game release, if you can't fix it, just remove friend system, PLEASE

[fervent coral]

Its not hard its just people dont know how to stay with their team on that build the moment they see someone they just target them the whole time

[warm glade]

So do we got any footage of gameplay on PS4? I don't wanna be skeptical but like just how well is this gonna run?

[tacit imp]

I pray to god embark makes every mode consistent with each other in terms of how the mechanics work with each other. Make ranked and world tour like quick cash get rid of double cashouts get rid of 4 teams and/or get rid of cashout spots diseappearing in the last minute of the game. yes this game is built off chaos but its so unfun to play this game when teams nonstop every game if not every other game start double cashouts just for fun. its alll pure luck on whether or not you're goiing to be able to take double cashout boxes. nerf shotguns as well. just nerf them into the ground and see how much the game actually improves im willing to be my life the gameplay as a whole improves just because of a simple shotgun nerf across the board. stop adding countless pieces of utility to the game theres too much as is.

[soft valley]

Please Embark make a' Monkey Skin for the Finals Saison 5
Pop Bananas. Pour Banana Juice. Go Monkey !

[uncut gull]

This game is "TOO SWEATY" ? 🤔 ?

No, I mean... I feel like... This game should be SWEATY.... because Being sweaty in this game is somethin that I looking for
This is somethin that Embark designed from the first start. It is not about being competitive or casual...
It means doing Both "COMPETITIVE" and "CASUAL" with HIGHEST OVER LIMITS as you can.
intense game scenarios. the feeling that makes you are in a virtual reality game show. Bring the virtual world into the chaos. the destruction that rolled to me.
is something that I can't find from the other game now. this experience is only in "THE FINALS"

This game makes me feel like... this game makes me want to take off stupid uniform clothes that I wear in my silly job every day. I do my job. I got a buck too. I'm so Tired
But when I come to this game. I wear cool clothes with your style. especially the OSPUZE cap. become a contestant who is so talented and gonna challenge everything and try to be a new RISING STARS

jump into the Virtual world. shooting everything that gets in your way. bring the world into the chaos. Burn a big wood. break the high wall and obstacles that stand in front of you. steal all the money into your big pouch. see the bridge is falling down. create your gameplay with your creativity that is beyond the limit or virtual. And you're loose? Insert your coins again. use your respawn credits and come back to the stage. Finally, jump as high into the virtual sky as you can. And repeat...

CAN YOU REACH THE FINALS ? ? ? ? ?

This place is where I come to splash all the bullets that I have. Feel the POWER and your HEART that keep BEATING. unlock your virtual sensation that hiding inside of yours. react fast as you've never done before. destroy everything and do anything that I want to do with no care about the limit that I have in real life. And after being SWEATY in this game. after doing everything i said before in this game. all stress is gone. all the anger, pain, disappointment, and everything that so bad happened in my life.... It's gone. It's nothing for me now. the only thing that happens after playing THE FINALS is the sense of calm and relax. Now it's a good time to go to bed and have a great night as could be... just another day that I found my happiness

This game is a place where I can unleash bullets and blow everything up as I imagine. It's not a place to wander around tossing rose petals or scattering food for cute little animals to eat.

this is somethin that can't in any game and in normal real life

only in THE FINALS

thank for watching

[patent rapids]

EMBARK! Let me pet the turret! Give it skins that are cute so I can pet it! And enough with the tablets just hold the real item pls

[clever bone]

its important that we do since uneducated people are a huge problem of society😉

[wild verge]

and not 1 girl in your dms

[subtle oak]

Light is not OP.

But nobody asked for an infinite invis buff.

[carmine thistle]

Top players still gonna have their volume on 1000 so its no problem for them

[thick sorrel]

I was wrong Heavy kills Lights in 0,43s with SA12 as @smoky sluice mentioned.

[umbral swift]

Please revert the range buff to Glitch Traps. They’re literally overpowered even at their current range of 5m to the point they’ve literally been banned in tournaments before. They have no duration limit and can end up staying tethered even around LOS and are insanely small to hit.

Glitch Traps literally needed a nerf even at its current range of 5m, not a buff let alone to 10m. I get you’re probably doing it to try to counterbalance the Light buffs, but buffing the range literally rewards Mediums for being less thoughtful on where they put it down if the range is so huge they’ll get value regardless.

Also, you literally can’t “just position better bro” against multiple 10m radius spheres that literally get rid of every single possible option Light has to not instantly die in any fight or encounter whatsoever: The specializations and gadgets that are literally the only thing keeping their 150 HP afloat from being a sitting duck. The gadget already makes them borderline unplayable in the 5m radius of any single one let alone a 10m radius buffer version.

Range doubled from 5m radius to 10m radius is an increase from 523.6 cubic meters to 4,189 cubic meters, which is literally MORE THAN a 8x increase to its volume.

[languid fiber]

They should add the plumbata either as a weapon skin for throwing knives or as a new medium weapon

[echo bronze]

Ranked Power Shift, plz

[signal basin]

Yeah don't let Light be usefull... L just have to be 2 shot by M and H but not the opposite 🤡

[pulsar willow]

people crying about sr-84 being viable while they won't be able to shoot properly on shotgun ranges with it 😭
hipfiring is gambling and doesn't count as an argument

[sage sonnet]

Fix revolver red dot. Something is fucky and it lies about aim. something about trying to flick is off with the red dot. Anyone who plays a lot of revolver should notice a positive change in hitting difficult shots when switching from red dot to irons. I don’t know what it is exactly but I swear it’s there.

The weapon is meant to be a skill cannon, so make it actually reward extra skill. Reduce its inaccuracy for shooting in the air. You only get 6 shots and it’s dumb for those to be wasted when you click right on someone’s head and the bullet takes a detour around them. This especially happens when you are trying to make a crazy play and you zip line overhead and two or three shots of your six are lost to the movement inaccuracy and you lose the resulting fight. (Maybe another few meters for damage falloff too? Pretty please 👉👈)

[wild verge]

You just need to position better. its just a skill issue

[half mountain]

as a light main. light needs to be balanced. the double barrel is my biggest complaint right now. It shouldnt be able to 1 shot a medium...

[uncut gull]

BRO, the life of Light build is so tiny like a paper. and you said the light is too op. paper is too op for you?

[lyric whale]

it cant it does 195 max its never been able to 1 shot medium and is in the best state its ever been. its usable but not the best.

@sage sonnet thats bc of visual recoil so it will be basically fixed come next season

[wary cypress]

Fix suspended structures, how are you supposed to get on those things?

[molten trail]

it literally cant lol. shotgun is hella high risk high reward its fine

[proven vale]

It doesn't. Lights are perfectly balanced.

[edgy urchin]

I agree with u on light needing to be reworked in some ways. Of course all the light mains that sit on discord more than the actual game are here to disagree, just ignore them they are ragebait. Hopefully embark will actually do something about light and not just buff it like that have been.

[stray axle]

it's not the DB that's the issue, it's the invis and lack of sound

[clever bone]

oh no ragebait ahhhhhhhh im so scared😱 🤡

[wild verge]

not a single friend to laugh

[valid night]

plz cancel sniper and 93r damage buff

[tired fable]

plz wait patchnote and release date before crying here

[hard shoal]

DONT NERF HEALING BEAM😭

[uncut gull]

bros, light build is a high-risk, high-reward class. and you not gonna let me bet on anything else? we are just tiny people trying to prove and fight against a big virtual world. We try to play safe. we do or die. we try to fight and stay in and out of the safe zone. try to go out or jump into a dangerous place. I try to face any fear, complaints, and anything that will bring us to fall down. cmon. plz wait for the new in coming patch note

[lost talon]

make the recoil patterns semi random after the first burst to reduce macro beamers especially now that visual recoil is gone for all vanilla users. Unless you never wanted that in the game in the first place, but why would you put it in if you never wanted it? now it'll be a fundamentally different game, think about it and some compensation might be good idk, the whole mag being a static pattern is just a relic like other technological limitations, come up with something interesting. The problem with visual recoil was that bullets didnt go where the reticle went, not the semi randomness. It could maybe move into a slightly different pattern at certain bullet?

[open scaffold]

After this week store update, I've been noticing tons of stuttering on The Finals that I had never encounter from open beta to S4. My PC is decent enough to play the game too and I set it to medium quality in order to get to 120fps above. Even one of my friend who has no issue playing the game right now are facing tons of stutterring too.
Please look into this matter Embark. Thank you :3

[stuck sentinel]

ye

[soft valley]

Please Embark make a' Monkey Skin for the Finals Saison 5
Pop Bananas. Pour Banana Juice. Go Monkey !

[wild verge]

i love skilless light players that defend the class

[waxen karma]

Yo, at least they did it in the end... My question is.. how will the recoil be handled now?
A - The whole screen shakes, but the weapon sight stays dead center on the screen.
B - The weapon shakes, and bullets hit where the weapon sight points (Squad like).
C - A mix of both.
D - Something else?

[visual wraith]

add john embark aka oscar face model to the game

[hollow valve]

Sry I have to let the devs see this. Maybe it's not right but still worth thinking about.
Random matchmaking. By measuring players' performance to determine their ranks.
SBMM. By flatting players' skill difference to create a casual unranked environment.
People have been knowing one image that is ranked is supposed to be sweaty. But it has blinded them that being sweaty is not the point, it's a byproduct, it is measuring skill that matters.
Random matchmaking - completely open for high skill ceiling and skill gap, suitable for ranked, and could test how well do you understand the gameplay design.
Not only does NOT randomness always mean less sweat, let alone "for everyone" thus not suitable for unranked, but also SBMM does NOT mean sweat all the time, let alone "for everyone" thus not suitable for ranked.
This also solved the problem of forcing to queue players with different skill levels together to "balance" different teams.
For less skilled players they know in unranked they will have sbmm protected and they will have fun with sbmm protected. In ranked they would expect more difficult lobbies and prepare for the unfiltered random matchmaking, it's like into the unpredictable wild nature.
For pro player they know there is sbmm in unranked so they would understand the lobby and not complain, it also won't make them play aggressively because there is no point to, and focus more on fun. In ranked they would have to sweat and get the best performance to let the system determine how good they actually are.

Basically a win win.

This also explained why nowadays there is such a large appeal for sbmm, because every game we played before sbmm, they were all ranked and with no reward.

[dense ocean]

day 83 asking embark
let console players able/disable HUD

[reef jasper]

TOO much xp for the battlepass! at least give option to buy levels

[finite galleon]

Cloak is pretty damn fucking loud dude. Popping this thing just gives away your position to begin with.

[tawdry mesa]

Any news about ps5 pro upgrades?

[signal cosmos]

should already be there

[lost talon]

Fr buff it

[halcyon depot]

If they don't intend to increase the medium building destruction ability, I won't play anymore. There's no need to do this in a kill game.

[pearl idol]

It does feel like they are really homogenizing the classes. like the heavies deagles work at medium range which is meant for medium. Mediums got the pike which was a sniper on launch which is for lights

[dark niche]

demat is the best breach in the game and if that’s not good enough idk what to tell you
heavy is supposed to have all the destruction

[red arch]

lewis sight looks silly lmfao

if you want "destruction" play heavy...

[keen lily]

just play demat

[rough herald]

Demat is plenty enough, it legit the best breach tool (not to confuse with distruction)
Especially when it on a support class

[vital coral]

The Finals has the cleanest windows in the world

[drowsy plover]

I like when the game crashes 2 times and i lose. 6k

[naive gust]

Why did I LOSE rank score??? Am I seriously being punished for solo queueing with randoms who cheat in my lobby's without my knowledge????

[mortal notch]

It can’t?

[torpid sky]

they took back the rs u got when u won with a cheater there is nothing to be mad about u didn't lose rs from other games it's just that cheater game

[broken geyser]

the shak 50 needs a hipfire recoil reduction or a mag size increase (maybe 25 bullets) cuz it feels super punishing

[halcyon depot]

Only the medium build has a significantly lower ability to destroy buildings.
You can no longer place two explosive mines instantly, so it becomes even more difficult to break through walls and floors.
The game used to be fun for destroying and stealing, but for medium users it has become a very boring game.

[high wing]

what season 5 needs and maybe we can finally be out from current early access version

• ingame profiles
• match history
• ping indicator
• direct DMs
• properly showing ingame status (e.g game time, round, etc)
• fixed and working netcode
• proper hit registration
• functional and fair respawn system
• proper and clear stats on weapons (numbers)

[thin grail]

nice, losing second ranked game in a row because of bullshit that is absolutely not dependent on our team
200 meter spawns, every time, it's incredible
40 seconds on the timer left, we need to take a certain cash and it spawns us 220 meters away from it and 130 meters away from the other one, that wouldn't even help us at all
we get to the right cash with just barely enough time, manage to kill 2/3, start stealing, another team that is literally FIRST PLACE just comes in, kills us all. gg

[lost talon]

the plug money on the last boxes is too big thats the only problem and ranked should have bigger wipe penalties

[mortal notch]

It shoots 2 at a time So 25 wouldn’t be possible
But I agree from what I’ve seen it could do with 24/26
the hipfire is fine maybe a small range increase though

[drifting plover]

does any body know how you are going to get the throwing knife skins

[spiral valve]

Is another ranked adjustment coming in?

[upper citrus]

You’re not being punished, you’re just not being rewarded for it. It’s taking away the RS you got in those games, nothing more.

It doesn’t really make any sense to let you keep the RS lol

@naive gust you should be advocating for a better anticheat lol. Nobody in their right mind is gonna say “oh yeah we actually should let people keep the RS they got for playing with cheaters”

[naive gust]

ok GREAT so every single time I am sweating in ranked. Trying my absolute hardest. It just wont matter because I was unknowingly paired with a cheater. Real awesome. With how many cheaters are constantly in this game why even play ranked? You will only keep HALF of the RS you've earnt if you're lucky, because you just so happened to be paired with a cheater. Is no one able to understand how unfair this is to people who are just trying to play the game? and wanting to win? We all lose what we gained. With no fault of our own, without any knowledge until it's already happened.

[plush grotto]

They’ve been happening about once a week. There will be more after the season ends when they go through reports and what not

[torpid sky]

just think of it as u lost those 2k rs and u gained them now after they banned the cheater and thank the fair play system

[granite vector]

add Shaquille O'Neal skin for the shak-50

[hard shoal]

If you insist on changing the single-shot damage of light sniper rifles to 125, please also change the single-shot damage of revolvers to 75 and the single-shot damage of pike .556 to 55.😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡

[humble sparrow]

Good game

[burnt notch]

That’s just how the game works man. Doesnt matter if u knew or not, winning with a cheater on ur team gave u an unfair advantage

Personally I wouldn’t play ranked just cuz of the amount of cheaters in high rank. World tour is so much better

[violet matrix]

The final is definitely dead

[quick coyote]

No soul left 🤦

[muted shard]

Its not okay to get punished for disconnects due to network errors this hard. I was in the second round, we had already +400 rs and I got 10 min ban plus -1200 instead of 400. This is unfair and frustrating.

[edgy rock]

Game is still freezing for 30+ seconds on xbox. This happens every time I start the game and again when a match ends. It's been happening for the last 4 months on Xbox Series X, and now the game freezes on start then crashes out to home. Anybody else getting these kinds of freezes? They are really ruining my ability to even play the game.

[jagged cedar]

Have you tried not playing with cheaters

[half briar]

Looks like Season 5 is the "take a break" season until Embark can rework light so that:

• their existence doesn't require constantly nerfing medium and heavy teamwork abilities
• they can be useful in high rank
• they don't completely ruin the experience for the bottom 90% of players

Will keep an eye out for patch notes, but not going to reward Embark with my hours or money this season.

[torpid sky]

"the finals isn't pay2win"
mean while the finals:
rtx on:
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1306910023628357674/1316045107157536878/image.png?ex=67599e04&is=67584c84&hm=8cf2a35f080904974f4021a199342487a14b51d37512c36cb241612998d9f8a7&

rtx off:
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1306910023628357674/1316045141647294484/image.png?ex=67599e0c&is=67584c8c&hm=c786d23570bd4a9f9d04ad937cf276240edf99a2d1c6604d274e42506ffa0df5&

[dark niche]

oh my god dematerializer!!!!!!!!! or play heavy!!!!!!!!

[dawn valve]

Dont fucking spawn me 150 meters from a cashout I still own

[covert dock]

Lol what a whining community

[rough meteor]

Frag Grenade, Explosive Mine, CL40, Dematerialiser. You have quite a few options for destruction and breaking things. Any more and heavy gets less value.

[pulsar willow]

2days before the s5
people already finished their BPs, WT ranks and comp ranks (basically nothing to do anymore)
still 15k avg online only on steam

what's the problem?

[shy smelt]

Enemies are highlighted

[visual spruce]

Exactly 💯

[long arrow]

yes :/ embark want we dont make shower for tryhard the game ots so cringe asf . actually i finished all quests & sponsors rewards but still 3level of battle pass. i stopped cause tired

[short shard]

Ranking system is awful. I always have the most kills, revives and point objectives and I keep having bad teammates => losing the game => losing a lot of points. Ranking point system should be changed according to the in-match metrics. Otherwise, its so frustrating playing.

[red arch]

don’t solo q then

@half briar there are so many servers to connect and find people, you can even just add the people you played good with lol

[sturdy hamlet]

butterfly knife dagger skin pwease :3

[half briar]

Yeah, what this game needs is less players and more barriers to entry. /s

[wicked saffron]

this game is turning to shit and another season is not what's going to save it

[woven hawk]

#1 game

[brittle obsidian]

lockbolt is gonna need more pull force on release. you can seemingly ignore its tether radius with ziplines and jump pads

[jade cloak]

Ingame metrics dont really show how good you are at the objective

Having kills and support is good, but we all know the moments of 2 teams fighting each other for like 10 Minutes straight while the other 2 teams get a free pass (For example).
Objective score also cant really be weighed, cause then people would fight over whos to get to put the cashbox in and stuff

we should use hidden metrics not shown on the leaderboard, but then is the question: What kind of metrics should that be? The ones shown on the ingame leaderboard probably wont be weighed heavily. And I cant really think of any that really shows how good you are at the games objective, not just at getting kills.

[teal bear]

Embark! I see you have included a goo gun animation on the battle pass. Please give us at least one awesome legendary goo gun skin this season. Thank you and I love you

[dark niche]

oh my god dematerializer!!!!!!!!! or play heavy!!!!!!!!

[lost talon]

notification system looks cheap and too close to certain kind of games

[torpid sky]

[pallid haven]

I hope Private Matches can get some attention. I would love to be able to play with a few buddies and be able to rearrange teams easily in the menu and not be so limited by the auto team queuing.

[woven hawk]

things my friend says

[teal bear]

Goo. Gun. Skins. Please ❤️

[undone igloo]

Scrolling to choose weapon/gadget keeps bugging out, where scrolling either skips items or goes the wrong way. For some reason this has only happened on system horizon

[thorn kelp]

Season 6

[faint saddle]

idiot, this is only steam, we also have xbox andplaystation, and 15k is an alive game not every game needs 100k+ players to be a good game

[quick coyote]

I was being sarcastic 🤦

[prisma plaza]

ranked system needs to be fixed. i do not want to spend 30 mins trying so hard to carry 2 players that dont even deserve their rank, after finally winning then losing all progress in the next mere 10 mins to another 2 players with the same type of brain. PLEASE SEASON 5 BE THE ONE THAT MAKES IT LESS TORTUOUS

[sage sonnet]

Do you mean the new items notifications or the “xyz is online” or the party invites?

[lost talon]

the new s5 icon and drop down, yea item notification

[bright knoll]

Why there are so many softaim hackers still?

[tall spoke]

MAKE IT SO THE ZIPLINE GUN IS A GUN LIKE THE GOO GUN AND THE SOON TO BE BLACK HOLE GUN.

[red arch]

solo q will always be like this, it is how it works in every game, you should find people to queue with, you are literally in a server with LFG channels to find people and make friends

[sand hazel]

thats really not alot of people and id wager theres alot of people playing rn trying to finish the pass. that what i was doing and as soon as i did i dropped that garbage fire. hell tf2 has a higher 24 peak then the finals and its like what 17 years old?

[fleet nova]

How do I check the ping to the servers?

[stone bough]

lol, yeah but it doesn't use that much performance to use low ray tracing

[undone igloo]

please add some kind of bonus if your teammate leaves in ranked, got to the second round with two people, still lost points

[nocturne yew]

The new shotgun fire power seems underwhelming

@woven hawk I meant the fire effect, from the livestreams looks like you need to be really close to apply fire to anyone

[jagged cedar]

Mfw people leave feedback in the feedback channel

[torpid sky]

i was on high ray tracing💀

[woven hawk]

Weapons aren't just about firepower. The fire adds technicality to it, keeps invis revealed, wide spread helps find them too. It also adds about 3s to the enemies' self-heal. Can easily light a field on fire, etc. @nocturne yew ahh I didn't notice that, maybe it's intended otherwise you can easily set people on fire across the map (if it has a center pellet) which might be too

@hard shoal @rocky vessel Please don't let bias cloud your judgement, revolver having the ability to kill 6 Lights in less than 5 seconds with one (hitscan) clip? Might as well give my M26 baby over 9000 dmg per pellet

[pulsar willow]

referring to different game is not an argument bruh
like lets be real - this season AVG online was way better then in s3, when avg online dropped to 15-16k just in a month (only referring to steam charts but basically already says everything)
and don't forget 17k is only on steam. we cant see numbers from PS and XBOX

[rocky vessel]

I agree. I have been waiting since season 1 for them to buff the revolver in some way but they still have not done anything for season 5. I think it is absolutely ridiculous that it technically takes 3 body shots (or 1 headshot + 1 body shot) in a 1v1 against a light player to eliminate them. A light player that gets shot in the head by a revolver that only has 6 bullets, lots of visual recoil, a slow fire rate and a reload time of 2.5s kinda deserves to be eliminated in my opinion.

[fleet nova]

How do I check connection to servers separately Discover.exe, if the filter by EXE is not supported there?

[stone bough]

bro why?? the quality addition is very not much compared to ray tracing low for performance on this game.

[plush fjord]

Dear Light,

Skill issue

Sincerely, a light main

[final solar]

hope they do something about matchmaking next season, i'm bottom plat and i almost only play with diamonds dans rubies three stacks, it's impossible to grind

[proven crown]

Not sure if its just me, but the management of higher ping areas (I'm in South Africa) seems to have gone rapidly downhill. Checking with ISP tomorrow, but other games are fine

[misty ice]

The KS-23 needs to not have any projectile deviation, it's already a projectile even if it's a fast one, and I can't tell if I'm missing shots because I'm aiming wrong or if this gun has crazy deviation and I'm thinking the latter, the gun is already skill based and does decent damage after the firing speed buff but because of bullet devation unless you stand completly still and the enemy is grounded, it's difficult to hit anything without winch claw, which is not the answer. Does anyone think otherwise?

[latent niche]

Kind of laughable you're talking about Esports and competitive the Finals. Embark. ... you added an event that lags the whole server. Your severs can't handle someone blowing up one wall during the meteor showers event without dipping and causing connection delay issues for the majority of the playerbase. Please fix your servers before you dip your toes in to the esports scene please god. No one dies from lag because of lag in LCS.
You're going to have to actually make the servers overkill, overspeced, FAST AND ACCURATE so that no one gets full-clipped by a light with a trash connection a second after they have already gone behind cover. I'm getting really sick of how sloppy and delayed this game feels. I just got shot on the bottom floor of the building from soemone who shot me on the top floor. The shots were delayed so long I managed to fall to the bottom floor before they registered. Fix your servers then we'll talk "competitive" because right now this game has a lot of BS deaths and hitreg issues.

[torpid sky]

watch the original msg again, it's not that clear unless you're on high ray tracing or at least that's the case on my gpu

[dire scaffold]

Absolutely love this game, pumped for Season 5. Too many haters in here.

[vestal igloo]

I don't know if it's possible, but removing this on console if possible, it looks horrible, it only happens to me in this game

[thorny lynx]

Damn, THAT game sounds like fun

[quick coyote]

EMBARK YALL DELETED VISUAL RECOIL NOW PERMANENTLY DELETE HACKERS AND THE GAME IS PERFECT, TRULEY A WORK OF ART AND REVERT FCAR TO BETA FCAR plz😌😏

Oh and add a different ranking system cause this shii 🤢🤮

[stone bough]

On my device it's already very clear in rt low

[dark niche]

ps4 players gonna get smacked up by pc players, like hows this fair 🤣 (turning off crossplay wont even work btw for ranked and WT) its just gonna make controller players not even play the game.

[lapis marten]

fix the matchmaking, this shit is so stupid. Every single person in the lobby was fucking over 10k, even GOLDS WERE IN A BRONZE Q. A FULL STACK. I was solo q and one of our teamates just instantly left, like what the fuck?

[haughty smelt]

I have played this game almost daily, done all the quests and I still have 2 tiers left on the battle pass, I don't think the current battlepass system is fair - I pretty much no lifed this game and played every day yet I still wont be able to get all the tiers, I understand that this is for player retention and to make people want to play the game to get those tiers done but the amount of time you need to invest to get everything in the battlepass is absurd.

I understand that embark probably wont lower the amont of xp needed again, but instead you could implement a carry over system where tiers from previous battlepasses carry over and are overlayed on top of the current one (keep the levels the same so some tiers youd get two rewards) or you could add the tiers to the end. This may also be a stretch so you could only do this for tiers 100+ on any given battlepass, so that you dont just have people logging in a season, buying the battlepass and not coming back, this way you keep player retention and you make the battlepass more fair, this might even increase player retention.

[scarlet robin]

im at 102 and I play may be 2 times a week, pick it the fuck up before you start bitching you waste of air

[quick coyote]

Crazy aggressive over a little critique to your love child of a game, many people have said it before, Ive played everyday for a month doing all the dailys and Im still only level 105. I don't see why the hostility was needed lmao, are you a sleeper agent for embark that activates whenever you see criticism for your favourite game? This change wouldnt even affect much lmao would just make the battlepass more accessible. Also you get to level 100 pretty fast because of the amount of quests you have but when you run out of those it slows down.

[hasty coral]

i think its more so that the bonus tiers are too much

[upper quiver]

the grind really destroys the game for me, i almost focus on the quests when i play and i played almost daily and still have not everything from the battlepass (which everyone of us payd for it) and the sponsoring. this could be the reason i dont buy the season 5 battle pass if i dont have the chance to get everything (not in an easy way but not in a hard way too)

[subtle oak]

The battle pass is easy too finish, dont lower the xp amount!

Instead add more tiers 🙂

[tall orbit]

While the grind has been deflating to me personally, I'm near the end of it. I do find it a bit exhilarating that I am almost done. There should be something to aside xp and fans and vrs to help promote a healthier grind than the fomo grind. I say don't make the grind xp, make it vrs. And give us a digital space / locker room that we can organize and populate with furniture and assets and make that the pregame lobby for your team or clubs? Promote a sense of contribution to your club / clan and start to give these clubs an identity instead. Like real sports clubs.

[autumn warren]

Maybe, just maybe. The community is tired of people whining about the tiniest of things (more often then not their own skill) to devs of a game that’s practically brand new. If you don’t like it, leave. No sense in whining incessantly in the chat. From “nerf model” to “I keep getting third partied” to “it’s too hard”. We’re tired of hearing it. I know it isn’t true because I only have a few hours after work Monday-Friday and completed the battle pass and my sponsor. You have to get wins to level up.

[torpid sky]

specs?

[granite vector]

Ray tracing levels don't affect quality, they affect the speed at which the sun illuminates the interior. If you wait long enough they will look the same (or close enough to the same)

[fading flame]

Make it so when I make a club, I can stop someone from joining if they have a sponsor I don’t like.

[sonic arrow]

FCAR needs 1 more in the mag pls, then itll be perfect

[quick coyote]

Nerf Winch Claw stun

[fringe schooner]

Wack take

[rugged steeple]

It would be so nice if THE FINALS had past battle pass system like halo infinite has. The game has gotten so much better over time and It would be nice if the people returning to the game could maybe finish the battle passes if they bought them and buy the battle passes they missed out on. Me personally, I despise that I quit the game while having only completed half the battle pass and cant go back and complete it. Also it would fix some of the grinding problems that people have with the game.

[spring marlin]

Light player here 100%

[dark niche]

crossplay off feature doesnt work, and this is for xbox, something really needs to be changed if you want newer console players to actually want to play the game.

[formal rapids]

This would be nice, it is unfortunate when games rely on fomo

[nimble gale]

The rank matchmaking should be by KD

[rocky vessel]

@woven hawk Please keep in mind that in you example you would need to land 6 HEADSHOTS to 6 light players MOVING AROUND VERY FAST (dash, grapple) to kill them which would be an extraordinary feat. But let's say you are are right and maybe a buff to damage is not the right thing. I still think the revolver needs a buff of some sort. In close range, the revolver without ADS is only good as long as you stay still, which is not a very common thing in The Finals. Otherwise is is very inaccurate. It is good in medium range, but in further range it has a very big falloff. The bullet count is only 6 when in my opinion it could be 8 since you need to be more accurate than let's say, the Model 1887. I am in no way saying they should improve all of these but maybe one of them would definitely help.

[lost pine]

Nope ….

[woven hawk]

Yeah a dmg buff would be too much, it's not too hard especially for really good aimers to land those hadshots. I've wiped 3 stacks within 3 seconds with bow headshots, but it is a projectile AND also needs to be charged. I haven't used revolver enough to understand what other buff might be good, but I started using it recently and it feels really powerful. In fact I was just having a conversation with friends 20h ago, one said he's a revolver main now; guess he's learning the hipfire

[pliant lion]

It'd be great if you'd get more than 1500XP for a match this late in the season. Can't even hope to finish the battle pass because at this rate I need to play about 400 more matches to complete the last bonus page.

[haughty smelt]

I gave a genuine bit of feedback and described what do to do, how is that whining? If it's not whining how is your post related. It is true, I have all of the missions done, I win regularly, do the dailys etc. Surely no one else would complain if it wasn't true, but they do, lots do. And if you dont want to see critism don't look in this channel?

[tired epoch]

except it shouldn't because it's an objective based game

[autumn warren]

Go read your post again? If you can’t see how much it looks like a tantrum idk what else to tell you. Quite literally wining and moaning about a you problem.

[wheat wing]

Same thing happened. Grinded to diamond and now I’m plat 2. I’ve been waiting 4 seasons for the diamond XP and one day before the season ends it got ripped away.

[lilac coral]

I won’t buy the new BP I didn’t complete season 3/4 battle pass season was boring no content for 90 days and season 4 I think still suffering from burnout from season 3

[forest acorn]

The game crashes
I can't play
Please help guys !

[haughty smelt]

In what world is constructive criticism whining? You don't have to god defend the game, this channel is here for a reason lmao. I'm going to assume this is rage bait because it's ridiculous. If anything it looks like youre whining because you can't handle the thing you like being critisized

[autumn warren]

There was absolutely nothing constructive about what you had to say. It was strictly whining and complaining about your own inability to do what I did by the 3rd week of the season. Stop making the devs responsible for your skill issues. It’s embarrassing to see, and shameful for our whole community.

[brittle obsidian]

Might as well remove support from medium's build description, since yall nerf it every major balance patch.

[dark niche]

crossplay off feature doesnt work, and this is for xbox, something really needs to be changed if you want newer console players to actually want to play the game.

[quick coyote]

Your silly little stupid spawn system better be fucking fixed in season 5

[scarlet robin]

Can we seperate different melee weapons depending on a type of melee subclass? then give reason for these subclasses to exist? Ie. Spear and Sledge being sperated into Lightweight and Heavyweight options? Each option giving a different bonus?
Heavyweight - 5-??% dmg resistance scaling based on missing health. -7.5% movespeed.
Lightwegiht - 10-35% movespeed increase depending on missing health.
this can be used on mediums too with dual blades and riot shield, Lights as well.
also rework defib

[hearty bough]

Look for recent gameplay videos from YouTubers - looks like they made it such that when you get defibbed it puts all of your gadgets and specialization on a cooldown, which isn’t a rework but rather a massive nerf

[mortal notch]

its the last 2 days. im assumeing thats ranked? and yes we NEED input based matchmaking and mnk support. so all roller players will be on one que and ALL mnk players will be in another.

[clear glacier]

Let us choose what Emerald/Ruby/Diamond weapons we get. Use a point/token system similiar to OW

[carmine thistle]

Fire idea honestly & would eliminate alot of Fomo

[reef jasper]

TOO much xp for the battlepass! at least give option to buy levels

[thick sorrel]

Lol, I'm just speaking numbers. Why so offended?😂

[clever hawk]

Your mother sucks deez

[dapper atlas]

Asian server lots of cheaters, yeay! Goodjob anticheat!

[long flame]

How did i queue up for WT, and got into ranked lobby and then back to WT

[violet matrix]

The final is definitely dead

[bright copper]

lost two ranked games in a row because team mates have left the game half way through so was 2 v 3 in every fight. needs to be a way that SP is protected if a team mate leaves a game in progress.. seems unfair to be punished because of someone elses actions.

[tranquil pagoda]

Being colorblind and having no options for the optic reticle color is very frustrating. The crosshair customization options are very well-made and convenient, so it's strange that the same care for accessibility isn't carried over into the optics themselves

[vale stream]

Horrible game not sure why im getting suspensions when the game crashes

[surreal meadow]

https://tenor.com/view/this-is-it-mike-critch-son-of-a-critch-this-is-the-one-mark-critch-gif-9843024955946373144

[gaunt dock]

Lost 6k in ranked the last days because teamates left there should be a pubishment only for the one that leaves, also its not good to make a ranked Mode with 4 teams it just does not make sense because it is a lot dependent on Luck if you get to the next round thats probably the reason why there is 0 known competitive players that ever startet the finals :/

[lost talon]

Your rank system is philosophically broken, Elo does not work the way you think it does. The only way you can eliminate boosting is by only giving out rewards if somebody holds their rank for 10-20 matches and you need to fix the placement system, it cannot be just limited to 5 games and then you enter the standard system, it should be a gradual move towards your stable ELO, and even after that if you see a massive change in player strength the elo should change very quickly and the fact that they have to hold their rank for more matches it will mitigate the rewards problem

[solemn arrow]

Please just add a damn button to make everyone in the pool solo queue for ranked

[quick coyote]

Can we start getting creative reticles like this id pay money for this... But being able to change the reticles color should be free

[dreamy gull]

Kill cams? (optionally skippable)

Emotes in lobby?

Customizable gun skins in-game?

[dark niche]

crossplay off feature doesnt work, and this is for xbox, something really needs to be changed if you want newer console players to actually want to play the game.

[valid night]

Don't buff sniper and 93r damage

[ruby umbra]

You will still get the diamond skin since you did reach diamond. It don’t matter if you d-rank

[ripe herald]

Don't buff sniper and 93r damage

[dark orchid]

i think 93r really needs a buff though sniper is a bit whatever

[magic belfry]

whats the best game mode to get xp

[still crater]

bank it

[placid elm]

dude this battle pass is taking forever. I've played for hours and Im getting nowhere

[scarlet robin]

coudlnt they have just removed in respawn invincibilty then allow the revive to be interupted by it being damaged?
Whats the point of reviving your teamate if thats a tenth of a teamate

[bold flicker]

I just got in a WT game solo,my teammates wouldnt reconnect,as their names were not visible.i left and got a 10 min penalty.Why do you force me to lose 10 mins of my life?

[proven vale]

How do you add pic to replies

[quiet frost]

Please fix how smoke grenade and proximity sensors should work before s5 release

[burnt notch]

U can buy levels

Go to the battlepass and on the right side of the screen there should be a button to buy lvls

[bleak fern]

probably shouldnt of waited for last moment to do it

[reef jasper]

wait how lol

[fervent coral]

Please make a setting so I wont have to play with random lights like ion want these dudes on my team 9/10 they die immediately

[glass fjord]

aside from ruby, whatever rank you reach is what you get rewards for. you don't have to stay in diamond to get the diamond XP, only reach it once.

[clever hawk]

That’s how

[bold silo]

still no balance changes to weapons, why DEVs are trying so hard for this game to fail lol

[hearty bough]

I feel the same way, defib would be fine if your weren’t invincible for 1 full second after being rezzed. Its so annoying to sit on top of a rezzing enemy only to have them tank your attack and manage to slip away

[errant mauve]

There is no reward for continously protecting a cashout. Only the starter and finisher of a cashout matters. In order to make protecting a cashout more rewarding and especially less frustrating, after protecting a cashout troughout its cashing out phase, only for it to get stolen in the very last second, I propose redistributing the vault like this:
20% instant cashout for starting a cashout
40% continously cashing out throught its duration to whoever currently holds the cashout
40% instant cashout for winning the cashout

Another suggestion: While a cashout is being stolen, it should pause the timer and its payout, enabling last second steals as well.

[proven vale]

LMFAO

[high frost]

can whoever designs the in game logics and weapons please be able to do basisc fuckin maths holy DAMN!!!

[zinc haven]

I second this. it is being discussed since night 1. if you distribute the cash out via time held, 3rd and 4th partying will be less viable and thus less of an issue. we saw this with distributing a percentage of the cashout just by cashing in: there is now an incentive to transfering/escorting the cashout. it seems so obvious, but it is just not done. why?

[crude brook]

the wench claw was done in overwatch
the wench claw is like s1 overwatch 1
why? the bullshit with an ability like that has already been ironed out
why shouldnt it work exactly like it does in overwatch right now?

[lyric whale]

it stops defib chaining and that’s the biggest problem with defib by far

@upper citrus i’ve had a problem with defib chaining since s2 and the model just made the issue worse it’s not uncommon for me to get in a fight that goes down to a 1v1 just for multiple defibs to turn it into a 3v1 or getting into a fight that ends up with all defibs being used by a MMM team. i do think that putting the cooldown to everything is a bit excessive but i want to see how it plays first before i make a full judgment but i disagree that defib is hard countered by closing the gap bc it really depends on to many things to make it consistently countered. i haven’t played s5 and want to see how it actually plays but right now medium is just the best class and defib is a big part of that. something had to be done and i don’t think this was a bad move

[upper citrus]

Defib chaining was never a problem. Defib chains were fine with literally every weapon that wasn’t the model. Defib is hard countered by simply closing the gap, giving you a huge opportunity to kill both the user and his teammate while they are at a disadvantage.

Defib chains weren’t complained about until model meta became mainstream. Instead of addressing this, embark decided it would be better to just nerf the defib and add another cqc weapon onto the mid range combat/support class, ruining its identity in two ways at once while creating balance issues between interactions with medium and heavy (the close range class)

[valid night]

They should buff 93r fire rate instead of damage

[dark orchid]

nah i think the fire rate is fine; with any higher fire rate it would just turn into the m11 which is stupid

[spring marlin]

“93r sucks, it’s so bad it’s so horrible buff it buff it” gang they buff it and people shed tears and I main heavy let the weapon be good

[sonic spoke]

What ever you're good at. Powershift is good . Bank it if you don't try and fight everyone. Gotta put in that money!
Also okay on a group to get xp bonus. Just friend a decent player and keep queing up

[livid root]

@dark orchid is high

[torpid sky]

world tour probably

[brittle obsidian]

casuals will cry when medium doesn't have the ability to 1v1 every build in the game, so unfortunately that means the support needs to be nerfed a trillion times until medium's only job is being the snoozefest call of duty character

[scarlet robin]

Lets hope its just a temporary thing until they actually implement a solution

[patent wind]

while technically youre right about defib chaining not being a "problem" it does highly devalue poking. the reason long range playstyles werent viable was because of defib, you had to play close up. now longer range weapons have a chance

[spice sparrow]

More game modes for 5 player lobbies, please.

[frank holly]

Surely TDM 5v5. That's what powershift ends up being half the time anyway. xD

[tribal spoke]

Please buff the dual blades. I suggest removing the 50/50,60/60,70 combo and replacing it with flat 55/55 damage slashes, it fixes the light and heavy breakpoints without touching medium ttk (Which is fine though struggles with Model). And or improve the swing speed by 5-15% to decrease the ttk. A 2-5% momentum buff would be great too so we have a chance of sticking on enemies. This would include sprinting/walking but sliding too. Buff their range

[formal cipher]

Always felt like TDM wouldn’t work cause of the class differences. Taking team-oriented mechanics and putting it into something that doesn’t have an objective to chase after might kill the game’s magic a bit.

[proven crown]

I don't understand how it's the class with the worst win rate, and the class that is by far the least picked in competitive play - and nothing substantial seems to change. Now there's also a heavy gun with one of the fastest ttk's against lights😂 sick

[soft jungle]

Wait a minute. You can make combos with the dual swords

[burnt notch]

U motherfuckers really don’t keep up with the news do you?

[lost talon]

GIVE SEASONAL STATS, SEASON WIN RATE, SEASONAL K+A/D AND EVERYTHING

[eternal zinc]

It would be awesome to add sponsor tags to different cosmetics. That way we could filter cosmetics by sponsors. 👍

[uneven dagger]

make it so everyone can give only one piece of feedback per season

[steady juniper]

Idea for the next Season: some fun Gamemodes: like Prophunt, Dodgeball (only kills with throwable Props), Catch me if you can (only with lightweights and the winner is the one with the most uncatched seconds)

[whole belfry]

i dont agree to all, but its refreshing to see another person not complaining about the deflect 🙂 i dont mind the combo damage but i agree with improving swing speed a bit. Also i would really like to be able to go back into block faster would help out alot. Last but not least, would be very happy if i could hear the "headshot sound" when i deflect and hit the enemies in the head.
And i hope for all in the world that Embark does not focus on the "inaccurate" deflection. Thats a skill issue, not a problem with the weapon. Imo the deflection is fine and is the last thing they should adress.
(Dual blades only player 450h + ingame)

[bold flicker]

cant connect to the match,gets 10 min penalty

[spring marlin]

I have that problem to when im lagging horribly and I keep entering back cuz im not tryna loose elo or get a penalty

[wheat wing]

Correct, but the diamond reward portrait doesn’t have the check mark anymore, so I’m wondering if your elo gets taken by the system
It will “reset” you.

[pliant lion]

Sometimes life just gets in the way, but you'll probably find out how that works once you're done with school. There was nothing I could do for a least a couple of weeks. Despite that I wouldn't be able to play the necessary 400 matches in those couple of weeks anyway so the entire target is somewhat unreachable if you have a 40 hour work week and have to keep a household running. I have maybe 3 hours a day on average to play if I'm lucky.

I guess it'd just be a nice gesture to get a bit more xp per match if you've already spent the money on the battle pass and can't play the game every day for the entire season. Spending money on the game keeps the servers running and if I can't actually finish the battle pass I'm not really interested in buying it anymore.

Also there's literally 0 downsides to upping the XP significantly in the final week of the season. Everyone that plays the game 8 hours a day has already finished it a month ago and is at their max level.

[prime edge]

So here's an idea for the winch Claw. I think it would be pretty funny and fun if you can shoot the winch claw at a building and pull out a piece of it back to you. Not sure what size the chunk would be but still think it'll be funny to miss someone with it the winch claw only to hit the building behind them and deal damage because you hit them with a piece of the building pulling towards you.

Small Edit: This suggestion is not intended to ask for the winch claws hitbox to increase. It is a suggestion to give it a fun interaction with the environments. Using it to pull chunks of a building to them like how someone can use it to pull the cashbox to them.

[summer elk]

3 words:

Multiplayer Practice Range

[whole belfry]

agreed

[bleak fern]

brother i got a full time job and a side job where i animate, dont make excuses

[tribal spoke]

Well there is no headshot multiplier on the deflect so that would be confusing

[west crest]

is there any plans to add something that refunds my ranked ELO when teammate is afk and disconnects? i just finished my 7th game in a row that i played 2v3V3V3 and im losing my mind. i dont want much, just not losing elo when its not my fault... i report everyone and block them so they dont get into my games anymore, but i dont know if its even worth it at this point i just copy paste the same thing all over again XD "teammate afk and disconnects, played the whole round as a team of 2 please give elo back"

[fresh locust]

Apparently S5 is going to disable specializations and gadgets for 8 sec after being defibbed

gadgets yeah i understand that but specializations hell no. Allow specializations to be used but disable gadgets then its fine
Having specializations disabled is a hard indirect nerf to lights, completely kills melee heavy team comps, and overall kills any reason to run defib at all. I can't see myself using this gadget at all anymore if this change goes through to final release. If specializations are enabled, even a 10 sec cooldown would be fine

this nerf is mega overkill on par with the original stun gun nerf, it'll make the gadget almost completely useless until its changed

[glass cradle]

Anybody know if there will be any resolution reduction on consoles with 120 fps mode if i play 4k?

[shy parcel]

https://media1.tenor.com/m/RUCmdkzaIsoAAAAd/cat-wet.gif

[proven vale]

WHY IS THERE FRIENDLY FIRE WITH FLASH GRENADES

[pliant lion]

Okay so your situation also reflects everyone elses? Are you actually like this or are you just trying as hard as possible to be the most unlikeable piece of shit you can be? I'd be okay with your comment if you'd give a reason as to why upping the XP gain in the final week would be a bad idea. They've already done it, but a 50% increase is negligible in the greater scheme of things.

Also I'm not "making excuses" as I'm definitely not the only one commenting about the ridiculous 100k per level (about 70 matches for 1 BP level that is) battlepass levels. At this point I'm just giving feedback based on my experience to try and nudge the game in a more enjoyable direction. I am most likely not going to buy the Season 5 BP if it looks like I can't finish it in time and it's very likely that there are more people who feel the same way.

As I said, there are basically no downsides to upping the xp gain more in the final week of the season. There's no reason to not give people the chance to do a final run to try and unlock everything.

[visual wave]

Do people still think the revolver sucks and needs to be buffed?
Bcs it’s one of my fave weapons and it’s effective.

A deft mixture of ADS, hip-fire, and crouching hip-fire seems to make certain weapons shine, the revolver being one of them. A few times I’ve had enemies get the drop on me, some at longer range and higher ground, but dropping and hip firing from crouch allowed me to survive. Just some thoughts idk.

Now, the throwing knife alt-fire bug? If you could fix that Embark, that’d be awesome please ilysm ty

[scarlet robin]

will the annoyance of the m11 be reduced or do we still have to deal with that free kill bs

[frank jungle]

Bring back all team names for casual

[formal cipher]

I love that thing

[mortal notch]

average rubber 24 opinion

[bleak fern]

if you dont have time to play the game then you shouldnt care about being able to finish the battle pass(especially bonus pages). the devs arent going to adjust the xp because people who dont have time or are too lazy to do it like the rest of the people who finished the battle pass

[fresh locust]

nerf
-double barrel
-bow
-dagger
theyre all torture to play against and enable insanely toxic selfish playstyles
buff
-xp-54 (why was this even nerfed in the first place??)
-m11 (recoil, slight damage range)
-93r
fair and honest smgs that actually require you to expose yourself to take someone down

[lyric junco]

yea uhmm i finished the full battlepass within the first half of the season so your point is invalid got it done before hitting emerald 1

[charred citrus]

clearly he finished the pass

[steady juniper]

and an other usefull point is a troll report button in game

[maiden glade]

I think this game need a gift system because i have money enough to gift to my friends items and multibucks 😄

[prime edge]

I think that would actually be a nice Idea! Would be nice to gift a friend something they wanted and can't afford. That or spoil them if you wanna be like that : P

[tame crag]

I think there’s an argument to be made here that invisibility should be more invisible at least while standing still. My turning was caused by aim assist and so the reason I died is due to invis not actually covering enough

[mellow geyser]

How about a console only playlist? Why not? Can you please tell me?

[dark niche]

devs wont listen to console players trust me ik, if u need screenshots then feel free to dm me.

[lapis bone]

Im not going to play the next season. And all for how bad this one has been. The FOMO, the hackers, the awful performance (FPS drops and lack of optimization), the terrible matchmaking (the worst so far), the broken damage balance for some weapons and all in all the lack of interest from the devs to fix any of these issues. I've seen plp report these problems and yet i haven't seen any changes. I don't feel like this game deserves more of my attention. Im going back to playing Farming simulator and not getting into matches i have to lose coz the game puts me in a losing match just to piss me off. This is not the game I liked to play any more...

[junior viper]

Create a limited time event, where cash out has modifiers. 1. Box has a fire modifier 2. Box slows you down 3. Box makes you low grav. Abilities only come into effect on who is holding the cash

[normal gyro]

S5 has it so just wait a few days

[solemn sedge]

Add The Freaky Finalist to the game plz
His name is Freaky and he loves The Finals
If he gets enough support he can be added to the game
Make Freaky happy :D

[fast lion]

Are devs gonna fix the imput bugs or what?

[halcyon nexus]

praying for a bp exp buff

[delicate yoke]

They didn't nerf it and it's going to be even worse now because all the visual recoil is gone

[cold lily]

Add maps to Power Shift

[tribal spoke]

Please buff the dual blades. I suggest removing the 50/50,60/60,70 combo and replacing it with flat 55/55 damage slashes, it fixes the light and heavy breakpoints without touching medium ttk (Which is fine though struggles with Model). And or improve the swing speed by 5-15% to decrease the ttk. A 2-5% momentum buff would be great too so we have a chance of sticking on enemies. This would include sprinting/walking but sliding too. Buff their range

[lusty quiver]

Add ability to individually mute players in a lobby

sorry that my message wasn't clear enough. I meant voice chat mute. The closest thing to that now is the hearing "Friends only" voice chat but if you solo and only want to listen to one person and not the other then you can't do that atm.

[junior temple]

My playtime for the last 10 levels of the battlepass is higher than the 96 tiers before it, please never do this again

[raw blaze]

@mellow geyser @dark niche You can turn crossplay off

@lusty quiver that already exists

@junior temple yeah I agree i'm still not done with it lmfao

[dark niche]

u cant look at the bottom.

[fervent coral]

That all console lobby is rare

[fast lion]

It's so tedious, 100k per level and I didn't finish the last 4 levels. I'm at the shotgun skin on the last page

[quiet frost]

Please fix how smoke grenade and proximity sensors should work before s5 release

[cold bolt]

idk if it's possible but there really needs to be auto-bans on alt accounts by like tracking hardware or something, it's actively bad for this game and there's no justifiable reason in any competitive game to have more than one account

these are the reasons ppl run alts, and frankly none of them are a good enough reason compared to keeping competitive integrity, hell half of them are outright malicious :

• play ranked with lower ranked friends without fear of losing your rs
• bored but don't want to lose rs
• wanting to grief others for fun without losing rs
• dumb challenges for their yt/twitch like unranked to ruby
• cheating for fun
• abusing the ranking system to boost friends

the top 500 needs to be the top 500 people, not the top 500 accounts