👂┇game-feedback

[placid obsidian]

Day 6 of asking for crossplay only native kbm support for console users.

[visual spruce]

gun ideas for s5

Light - a vector

medium - dual handguns something like the deagles

heavy - M429 Gun

hope u guys give us some new cool abilities for all 3 classes in next season

[tropic snow]

We had 3 actual events this year: Smoking Guns, Bunny Bash and Steal the Spotlight, definitely make more like those, content creators are running dry talking over the questionable balance changes for the 500th time

[bold silo]

BALANCE THE GAME ALREADY

IF WOULD PAY TO SEE DEVS GO PLAY PLAT 3 OR HIGHER WITH 3X BOW OR SNIPER AND WIN A SINGLE GAME.

[craggy nova]

I’m not playing ranked until they nerf shotgun to 3 shot medium in close range.

[runic gull]

Give defib cooldown for team

[sudden tangle]

is ranked balancing a thing? will embark ever individually balance ranked and casual modes?

light literally cannot do anything in ranked, but if not buffed independently from casual modes it will be OP in them.

Buff everything there is to buff about light. light is a glass cannon high mobility class that harasses and disrupts. give them this identity. right now light is just glass no cannon. compare ttk between classes. light in ranked should kill H and M faster than they can kill L.

[solid echo]

Why is the “10 seconds left” countdown from scotty like 3 seconds🤣

[faint saddle]

Nobody likes playing against lights. Even though I’m a dagger onetrick, lights are annoying because they're a lethality class with almost no utility, aside from the gateway and stun gun for stealing cash, interrupting steals, and such. And that’s good, because a big appeal of The Finals is that people don’t die as quickly as in COD or other games—you can turn a fight, do something. It’s not fun to get stun-gunned and lasered in the head by an M11, dying in 0.78 seconds (this the M11 TTK for a heavy, with all headshots).

[sonic wigeon]

You can nerf/buff things how much u want but until u fix ur cheatingproblem it wont matter at all

[craggy nova]

Yeah, i can’t play in Asia servers anymore. Aimbot and wall hack is all time high.

[onyx crystal]

See I was first drawn to the finals with relatively high TTKs, so I like how it plays. Light is annoying though, which is bad because it is IMO the most fun to play. (Also who tf is hitting all headshots with M11?)

[dense ocean]

day 57 asking embark
let console players able/disable HUD

[wraith igloo]

Fix the fucking missing audio when enemy shoots. Nobody left in embark playing the finals I guess?

[daring fossil]

why weren't the audio issues hotfixed?!? like why are we waiting 2+ weeks for this major issue to be fixed

[tawdry tree]

I swear this wheel is taunting me, it's been five days seens I had something, 15 tickets, nothing

[obsidian imp]

anyone else have a world tour where cash boxes stop spawning?

[stray vapor]

gib more multibucks plz

[rough herald]

let us trade 5000 vrs for 10 multibuck

[gaunt condor]

👏

[pliant lion]

I kind of agree with most of this, my list would be:

• Revert the XP-54 nerf
• Revert the mag size for the AK to 36
• Now that the FCAR does less damage the recoil can be improved to be more in line with its original pattern.
• Same for the Lewis gun; the damage nerf makes the recoil nerf obsolete
• Nerf the Model 1887 to <125 damage so it can't 2 shot mediums. I'd say about 110 to 115 damage is the sweet spot. In this case it might be possible to give it back its tight spread as well.
• I like the idea of an activation cost for the mesh shield. First activation would be "free" and subsequent activations within a "recharge period" would cost 200 shield hp or something.
• Rework charge & slam so it only does max damage when you're running at full speed. I've killed 2 lights at the same time a couple of days ago by pressing Q while I wasn't even moving yet. Ramp up the damage relative to the movement speed with a max of say 120. Ground pound after a jump should do less damage than the ground pound after dropping from 6 stories high.
• Give the throwing knives a short "recharge/reload" period every 4-6 knives to stop the spam

[faint saddle]

My opinion to your change list

• XP take 2 m range away, give 1 dmg (not 2 dmg, every light was playing it)
• FCAR recoil is managable just give it 1 more dmg per bullet
• AKM is still very good
• I onetrick dagger and mesh shiled is free kills for me but i still think mesh is fine atm maybe minor CD buffs
• Charge and slam should have a dmg windup from 80 to 130 dmg over the duration increasing
• KS need a minor reload speed buff 8 bullets is overkill
• Glitch nade is fine
• 93R can be buffed to 2 shot lights and it would still be bad lmao
• What pistol change?

cashout changes

• Spawns need a fix asap especially the Monaco open field spawn final round and Hospital spawn on Seoul and Yellow house spawn
• Increase wipe penalty to 15-20%
• Current plug money is really good

[past ridge]

I’m compelled to voice a serious concern that could determine the game's future. The increasing prevalence of cheaters is not just an inconvenience—it’s damaging player trust and rapidly eroding the core enjoyment of the game.

If this issue isn’t addressed with immediate and robust anti-cheat measures, This game risks losing its dedicated community and gaining a reputation that will be hard to repair. The current situation cannot be overlooked or postponed without consequences.

Please take this as an urgent call for action. The players who love this game and want to see it thrive are counting on your swift and decisive response.

[tired ibex]

Make sword single hit and revert the latest nerf

[misty schooner]

This is every game ever rn

[rough herald]

fix visual recoil pls
there's so many example of other game giving the gun some animation without ruining the crosshair

[rough shell]

that's how chance works pal

[tender bone]

Treat hunt event isn't good. The "spin the wheel" system seems like a money grab.

[signal basin]

Because obviously M11 is a easy gun to put only HS...

[faint saddle]

I mean I have played it a little bit and I think it’s fucking easy maybe I am biased cause I have played years of fps shooter but holding your mouse on a dot for 0.78 seconds is really not hard if you think about it, the enemy can move this and that, stun gun and tracking are both also a thing

[hoary vessel]

crisis clipper helmet not compatible with masks that cover the mouth or gas masks

[dreamy ore]

Why lights with sword need only 2 attack to kill me but me as medium needs 3 attacks of my sword? how unfair is this, the lights also have super powers with dash+sword. Also blocking with double sword is useless against sword attacks??? complete unfair

[marble mortar]

Not sure if im a fan of the wheel. I played every day and used all tickets and still missing 5 items. Wont have enough coins to buy the rest if i dont get any of the missing items from a spin

[mossy rose]

Do not recomend this game for Asia, Asia server infested with Cheaters as always, aimbot, wallhacks, Everything, they sit on their hands and don't region lock CN because they know good % of player population coming from there. I hope nexon pulls the plug

[gilded sundial]

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[rough shell]

we need a minimum level requirement for world tour. I get too many new players for a mode that is considered competitive and punishes you for leaving @tender bone you can't spend money for the wheel at all though???? @dreamy ore you have more health @marble mortar i got them and Played an okay amount. Would be nice if the chances got higher every time

[carmine token]

You can buy all items on the wheel for Multibucks, and some for VRs. Of course, all desirable items are Multibucks-only.

[dark niche]

day like 41 or something i kinda forgot but Make Console have Console ONLY matchmaking.

[hallow oxide]

just wondering why my performance has gone down so much since the last update. i used to have really smooth gameplay and fps and its just really choppy now all of the sudden

[sage kite]

brother its literally free what are you on about

[upper granite]

there is a ALOT of complex balancing needed and alot of hard decisions to be made. BUT there are also some super simple fixes that would help that alot! one of them (I AM BEGGING YOU): let us see the emerald skin rewards directly at the start of the season

[tropic root]

The same reason why the M11 has the faster firerate vs the AKM.

[formal sphinx]

That’s funny

[quick coyote]

EMBARK! REMOVE KYOTO AND MY LIFE IS YOURS.

[tired ibex]

I reckon remove multihit and then revert the sword nerf tbh it would be nice

[azure badge]

what can i do to complete the treasure hunt event ? i started late ;-;

[faint saddle]

Used to be a Kyoto hater something has changed since last week wendnesday it’s actually playable now (I have 800h in this game)

[wary wigeon]

I'm tired of this awfull meta https://i.ibb.co/HY59HYC/META.png pls do something

[worn sigil]

Kyoto has always been playable just I'm assuming many people don't understand the tactics
🤣🍿👀😏🎃

[gloomy spoke]

Some constructive feedback from a casual player:

This game is the only modern FPS I play. I haven't touched a FPS since the late 90s/early 00s. I enjoy the game for its tactical approach to teamwork with a mix of fun.

With that being said, for someone like me, to enjoy the game and feel as if I can contribute, running a Heavy with flamethrower and mesh shield was how I felt I could hang in there with my friends who have years of FPS experience on me.

You nerfed my play style into the ground. RPG hardly does any damage. I can't juggle the mesh shield without being penalized. Dome shield lasts all of 2 seconds.

Heavys have no protection without wasting a valuable specialization or gadget.

I quit playing heavy because I got tired of getting absolutely waxed and my flamethrower couldn't keep up with constantly dashing Lights and mediums that would just shoot me from range.

It's not fun. I almost gave up on this game.

I've been trying to run a Medium and have some moderate success. I'm not very good with a gun but nerfing the Heavy has forced me to learn because otherwise I can't play this game without losing my mind.

PLEASE FOR THE LOVE OF JESUS CHRIST GET RID OF THE STUN GUN.

I'm so tired of getting stunned and gunned out in the open. Lights use it for cheap kills. There is no counter to it. At all. I can't move, and I can only defend myself if I'm facing the enemy to which 99% of the time I'm getting stunned from behind.

It's cheap, and it's annoying.

I've seen fewer and fewer Heavys. I sincerely hope the pick rate has dropped so far you're forced to do something about it because God forbid you take anything away from the Light class which has everything.

Stop cow telling to streamers and YouTubers. Us regular folks who just want to spend a few hours having fun play this game too.

Also, Fortune Stadium is the absolute worst map ever.

[shy token]

As we can all see, THE FINALS' community is deeply passionate when it comes to concept art and making drip. Earlier this year we saw the switch away from exclusive bundle pricing to individual items now being made available for purchase. This alone allowed a great amount of customisation and personalisation of the game. But @shy token is back this time to argue the case for community driven input.

By allowing the community to create fan-made concepts and outfits using available items, TF has allowed its community to creatively flourish. However, we think, and there are others who have considered this idea as well within the community, that new community made items should be given the chance to be official and in-game.

This would not be the first time that such a thing exists in the world of gaming. Warframe's 'TennoGen' is one of the best examples of having the community be involved in the creative process. This engagement's potential is virtually limitless and invaluable for the game's longevity and community. It can be further sustained by giving the creator(s) a chance to be awarded through a variety of ways, in combination or merely by themselves:
(a) recognition,
(b) in-game or IRL payment,
(c) but most importantly a free (perhaps personalised) version of the very same item that will be immortalised in the world of TF.
(DAY 78)

[turbid tree]

1. I believe that the ks-23 needs a slight improvement in performance. First of all, I think. that it is worth increasing the damage from the shot to 105 (at the moment the damage is 100). Now let's do the math: let's take the damage per shot equal to 105 and the butt hit equal to 40, the total will be 145. Therefore, light will not die from one single shot + butt blow. A different situation will happen with the medium. The damage for two shots is 105x2= 210. Then 210 + 40 hit damage = 250. Therefore, after two shots, we will be able to finish off the medium with one blow. Now heavy 105 x 3 = 315 damage for three shots. So 315 + 40 = 355. Heavy will also die from a single blow. The weapon has few bullets and the cost of a miss is very high. In battle, you often have to reload your weapon. With this damage (105), the weapon will not become stronger in a normal firefight because the number of shots required to kill will remain the same. However, we will be able to fight more effectively by use a butt kick.
2. I think that it is necessary to give the KS-23 increased damage to the head like the rest of the weapons. It is not so easy to get into the head shooting from a KS-23, especially to hit the head of a light. And accurate shooting should be rewarded somehow. Moreover, not every shot will fly exactly to the head due to the peculiarities of the ballistics of the KS-23 (the bullet is very slow)
3. Change the reload animation. If you have not emptied the entire magazine, then you will insert one cartridge at a time until the weapon is fully charged. It's very slow. But only when you have a completely empty magazine (0/6), then you will insert two cartridges at once, and very quickly. The medium weapon Model 1887 can be loaded with two bullets when you have reached 3/6 or 1/6 bullets in the magazine. I think. that the KS-23 needs the same mechanics.

[faint saddle]

I stopped reading after NR1, you are forgetting winchclaw, i dont wanna relive the 10 damage Winch claw masacre on season 3 release getting winch claw into pump Quickmelee, NO

[autumn sedge]

You could one shot lights every time with winch.

[rapid stream]

All KS needs right now is for it to not have spread

[dense agate]

Original Inspired from @/porgearello

Pike: rpm nerf, give back some damage to keep stopping power at range.

Model: Damage nerf to 108/124, it should not be allowed to two shot a medium 9m away, I'd argue it shouldn't 2 shot at all without a quick melee.

People seem against this model change but think of it this way, the revolver is also a high skill weapon but always leaves the enemy (if you hit full body shots) at just a sliver of HP for one more bullet or a quick melee, however you're insanely rewarded for headshots to compensate, the model you need less accuracy and for so much stopping power that other weapons don't have, asking embark to buff other weapons on medium in reliable ways isnt good enough and if they want slower ttk, the only way is to nerf the model to be just under so it stays high skill but requires a little more effort anyway.

Deagle: accuracy nerf at further range OR drop the crit to 1.5x. The damage potential with the deagles is unbelieveable with 2x crit.

FCAR: range buff, 1 extra dmg, 1 less bullet

AKM: 36 bullets back

These Rifle changes promote a more healthier niche between the two weapons. AKM having dps so close to the fcar is silly not a big enough change to mess with ttk values too drastically afaik but to put the weapons in better spots.

XP: damage revert to 18, nerf range. I don't have to explain this one, XP is just embarrassing right now and we needed the nerf range to begin with.

Sword: Make Thrusts not continuously do 140 to each target. Example: You sword thrust and hit 3 targets, it should do reduced damage to every target AFTER the first target hit. Also slight increase to delay between sword thrusts, too spammable.

Dagger: Either give 100 Damage on the wind up hit if you miss a backstab or decrease the time it takes to wind up the backstab. Additional Quality of Life would be being able to run with dagger wound up. If the dagger gets a change it should probably be only 1 or MAYBE 2 of these. But honestly even if it got all 3 it wouldn't be meta lol.

Charge and slam: nerf overall dmg OR increase cooldown, being able to use a high damage ability multiple times a fight can feel a little ridiculous at times but I know it is not insanely oppressive.

We are very close to a healthier meta.

My own thoughts: Please do something about defibs. It's gotten to the point where medium is a constant must-have in any rank. Understanding that choosing to play without medium is the difference but if you play medium WITHOUT defib its seen as an active form of griefing. One Idea I saw was Shared Cooldowns very point blank understandable, no explaination needed. Result: You will still have multiple mediums on teams but now other mediums will feel safer NOT choosing defib 100% of the time. If it only has one use on the team at a time for a team cooldown on the defib, the gadget could be relocated to one player and that player could now fully commit to support while other mediums can hold more utility.

And PLEASE do not do any unnecessary recoil nerfs! They only ruin the gun for the lower average/average of the playerbase, it will remain a problem elsewhere!

Please keep nerfs creative, changing specific numbers isn't all the weapon needs to be balanced.

[nova solar]

#EmeraldSledgehammer
(please just add emerald rewards already🙏)

[lost talon]

Add a new specialisation for light.

[turbid tree]

Okay, I would prefer to remove the damage from the winchclaw, and slightly increase its range by 1-2 meters. It's stupid that a weapon suffers because of an ability

[elder warren]

Mmmm nice try embark, but I won't buy a grenade and a bracelet with donated coins.
5 days in a row i get vrs points
Great idea to trick people into spending money on these useless things for one good set.
Happy HOLIDAY everyone, keep the gift wheel rolling 🫵 😀

[ionic pumice]

Please do something on asian lobby lots of aim botters the reason anti cheats cannot detect them bc they turn on and off the cheats during the game and easy anti cheat is no good in detecting cheaters

[queen ermine]

30% luck, 30% skill, 40% third party, love it

[brave leaf]

Not how it works, cheats are injected, can’t be turned on and off, that’s not the reason they’re undetected

[solar granite]

I feel there is a clear difference in the rate of Fans earned between various modes. I think it feels very unclear what exactly yields fans aside from a vague "performing better", and so there can be a huge variance in Fans earned between matches. Moreover, I've noted that certain modes seem more reliable in granting Fans. In my case, Bank It reliably gives me much more than World Tour. I find this to be a problem because it discourages players like me from playing World Tour at all considering it also takes much longer to queue for. I'd like to see it better communicated what actions yield more Fans, and have that be more equally distributed across game modes.

[sand hazel]

ive noticed an uptick as well. ive been getting alot of soft hacks mostly, wallhacks for example, but also some aimbotters as well

[left hazel]

What if we had a music player in-game? So that we could switch to other soundtracks from other seasons and not just have the one for the current season.

[scarlet jackal]

Embark there an issue on xbox that you cannot thange class on screen before game

[dense agate]

thats not really how that works either? Cheats are initially injected then read and write memory. If the injection method or as injected is not detected, and they're only reading memory (e.g; Wall hacks) then it can technically be 100% undetectable, only theoretically though. It essentially makes it significantly harder to counter. However the moment the cheat does something on it's own like aimbot orrr anything movement/aim related at all obviously other things too, then it writes memory to succeed those things which is why blatant cheaters are banned more often than just "suspicious" players who have a lot of information. Players will often mask this by using sonars and tracking gadgets too. Its really silly...

[vapid drum]

Rework the revolver recoil please embark, that thing is really bad in 1v1 combat, is like covering the whole screen when scope in shooting

[tired fable]

imo just buff firerate and KS will be good 👍

[brave leaf]

”that’s not really how that works either?’’ then proceeds to say that they work the way I said. All I said they are injected and you agreed, everything else I never gone further.

[fast apex]

I still need 3 🥹

[carmine orbit]

Why do I get teamed with people that only have 6 wins?

I am not a day care worker.

[brittle obsidian]

2 tapping walls would be nice too

[untold willow]

Balance

• xp dmg revert but nerf back the range
• Fcar recoil revert, 1 dmg buff, 24 bullets
• Akm 36 bullet revert
• Mesh revert or activation cost instead of CD (The juggling is what made it viable, an activation cost system of 50 HP could punish bad players for spamming while keeping mesh viable in ranked and competitive play)
• Charge Rework so it does more damage on secondary hits and not 130 insta win button
• give KS-23 2 more bullets
• make glitch grenade fuse time faster (impact would also work) and/or make glitch grenades 7s duration)
• buff 93R
• slight dmg buffs to Lewis and M60
• buff dual blades so they are a little less of a joke
• remove all innacuracies from revolver
• remove all innacuracies/bloom from Deagles when "scoped" in
• give either tracking dart or sonars to medium or rework Recon so its like sonars ( the blinks could move with you but to see them you would have to actively have the tablet out so you can't shoot while they are on)
• add grenade indicators
• reduce visuel recoil on guns in general and red dot sights

Cashout Changes

• change deposit bonuses to 3k , 4k , 5k
• fix spawns so you don't spawn on people
• increase wipe penalty

Private Matches
-add option for Final round config (3v3)

• add sliders for Cashout private match to change wipe amount and plug amount
• add option for full tournament (this is more niche and isnt as useful if you have the two prior)

Thx 😉

[twin dune]

Game is good

[toxic walrus]

yea

[restive crescent]

steam points for the finals, i want a steam badge of the finals on my profile

[daring remnant]

can i not get my account restricted for abandoning matches when i was trying to play world tour with no teammates? like, they left me, I was the victim, why am i punished?

[woeful arch]

Another day of Quick Cash, another win for the team that walks in and steals the objective while 2 teams are killing each other. When are we getting a new game mode?

[fiery saddle]

the spin the wheel is so un rewarding.... im 7/20 and ive still somehow managed to bag 5 duplicates...... it feels so punishing and considering there's only 3 tickets in 1 daily its essentially wasted almost 2 days of dailys already

[broken rover]

Embark you did great job with season 4

However after 400 hours it's very repetitive to play the game with carent game modes. Pls add new ones.

Add smth like: Arms Race, VIP, Capture the Flag, Domination, the 5 vs 5 deathmatch on the half of the map or in the center of the map like sys horizon. Or even game mode like 1 v 1only melee.

Also it's not rear to end up with same amount of cash in WT i wish it was -5% penalty for the wiped team.

And please return dead goes boom(ar least in wt) with the damage around 20-25

Byff the rpg from 100 to at least 110 dmg...

Wish you all the best

[quick coyote]

Please fix the hit registration on close-mid range for the deagles. They’re borderline unplayable

[shadow panther]

That's such a nice idea

[left hazel]

lmao fr matchmaking sucks

[polar blaze]

Pls revert the sword changes, it feels more like a stick than a sword now

[cinder elm]

agreed, idk if it's that people playing game like crazy and have got insanely good or im just bad, even tho would consider myself average, maybe even above average

[woeful arch]

A fun new game mode could be "Vaultball", just send the vault to each other as if it was a ball and the goal is to score as much as possible in as little time as possible, using all sort of gadgets. Something chaotic and fun, just to get the stress out.

I'm starting to hate Quick Cash with a passion seeing how often it's not a matter of skill but of luck (two teams fight > walk in and steal) + not touching TA seeing how many people leave the game half-way and there's no backfill + I can only play Power Shift so many times before I'm bored.

Power Shift: the Stealth Lights farming the other team's spawn point is a little much. How about focusing the platform? Why is not caring for the platform so easy to get away with, in a game mode that's supposed to make it the main point of focus. Oh well.

Cosmetic request: gold flamethrower + gold RPG to go with the golden coat from last season or 2 seasons ago.

[sudden pawn]

2 things for the medium as new gadgets and specs

-As a new spec I would thing a competitor to the healing beam somethign stationary would be good like a sonar you trwo it on the ground and in like a circle (15m radius or smth) teammates and u would be healed. The healing should be less then the healing beam maybe half of it but it heals all the team at once and all players can shoot other players could destroy it by shooting it (maybe 1200 hp or smth).

-Secound a gadget like a grenade simular to the vanish grenate of the light but instead of vanishing u and ur team it heals (150 hp or smth like that) it would have a bit longer cooldown and simular rang.

I think these two things would be really fitting for the medium and would hake him more of a supporter bc currently hes just a guy who can shoot and can do some other cool shit but not the support it should be so I hope u guys think about these additions to the game thx!

[dreamy ore]

good stuff. I was thinking the other day if a specialization that deploy like a "decoy" mannequin, or virtual clone may work too

[dry lichen]

Not my idea, but I’m in support of it

[ripe herald]

Pls accommodate my skill issues Embark!!! I cannot fathom improving my personal skills in this fps game!!!

[misty jasper]

no one is telling you that you HAVE to buy it. you're getting free shit and you're still complaining

[tired fable]

Hello Embark, check my suggestions

Soundtracks : let us choose all your fabulous OST music pack like apex, buff your menus option
Items shop : leave us possibility to test your shop' skins , shooting, animations, emojing...
group : make possibility to join

Preset loadout/skin : can we save some preset loadout and skin plz?
random skin : It would be cool to have a random selection of favorite skins for our weapon like apex
Shooting range : need more option, add dmg range, %accuracy, spread informations, targetCPU presets, possibility to choose different types of building and reset destructions, invite friend to shooting range and put friendly fire option
Ranked : make no penalty point real when loose ranked with incomplete team

Heavy : -1 or -2sec HP recovery
Light : 150 to 175hp, +1 or +2sec HP recovery

Dagger : make chargestab work like throwing knife
XP54 : buff mid-long efficiency
DualSword : need a big buff. deflect need more accuracy and better radius, globally I think about better Left click... faster attck, cancellable easier with deflect, idk...
Dematerializer : why closing hole leave always a small space to a guy to come to kill me ? do something about this
Turret : reduce cooldowns. Turret isn't a threat, the most useless M gadget
R.357 : please reduce damage falloff or give faster reload or better hipfire accuracy idk
FCAR : recoil is garbage fr
Mesh Shield : it sucks now, completely useless, revert nerf
M60 : reduce mid/long range damage falloff
KS23 : buff firerate and slightly reload speed
Spear : secondary attck need something... better hitbox ? easier cancellable ? rework ?

[brittle obsidian]

revert xp54 maximum falloff nerf. thats the range where it should outperform m11, yet its still worse

[woeful arch]

I like it, anything for a new game mode at this point really.

[snow cosmos]

I support

[raw blaze]

I support

[past ridge]

Hey man, just had a rough session in-game ran into a bunch of people using soft cheats. So annoying how they ruin the experience while trying to stay under the radar. Makes it hard to enjoy a fair match, you know? Just needed to vent! ANDDDDDDDDD the devs really need to step up and do something about these cheater it’s getting ridiculous and totally killing the fun. So frustrating!

[primal hornet]

daium. I love that idea. Always love the point in randomize my charms for guns and from the developing side, its "easy" to write it

[solar bone]

When is ZéphirPrincÉ#2452 getting banned? He has gotten boosted by cheaters all the way to rank 25 with no action against him…

Even when he’s pumping heals to a cheater shooting through walls on ekazokos stream last night😆

Really is disheartening
This is the 3rd time I’ve mentioned him here…

What’s the point in playing ranked when you can just get boosted to the top with no action against you?

[copper canopy]

Here's my take: I don't mind micro transactions or paid-for currency in-game, but this is actually a scam. even if you get the daily quests every single day since it released, you still only have a 75% chance of getting all the rewards. That means 1 in 4 players will HAVE to spend money if they want the reward 75% of other people already got

[unreal fossil]

This is essentially Battlefield Rush mode scaled down for The Finals.

I say why the hell not. It's easier to understand than Cashout. Yet remains an objective focused mode unlike TDM. I'm not sure the maps are well suited for it, though.

[tough merlin]

That's not what scam means. That would be... gambling. Scummy? Sure scam no. Would be a scam if you paid for something and got something entirely different.

[wind meteor]

the damage on the model cannot be nerfed to prevent a 2-shot medium or a 3-shot heavy because it would increase it's TTK by 50% for M and 35% for H, which guarantees you are dead before your final shot more than often and makes the weapon useless.

@elder warren no one is forcing you to buy any set 😘 if it were in a store and you want to buy it, you would have bought it without nagging, but because they decided to give a chance to get for free, you're gonna complain? not only that, they're also giving you free stuff along the way. Pathetic.

@tired fable @left hazel They are already talking about a jukebox as soon as they can. then you can choose the tracks you want.

[vapid drum]

Please rework the revolver recoil

[dusky apex]

Improve anticheat? Please & Thanks 🙏

[maiden epoch]

Let us favorite different weapon/sticker/charm skins and the game randomizes which one each game like every other competitor game, it would be super fun

[primal hornet]

i support this. We meed a good anticheat. Today I had played like 10 games and we found always some random dude with 15 kills, missing 0 bullets

[elder warren]

Yep.
That's exactly what I mean. I understand that we were given this ''incredible'' opportunity to get free stuff. But this randomness is annoying.
I also have the option to pay for it, but why should someone have to pay for it and someone else just get lucky, it's just a bit unfair
And actually I just want those red eyes from the set 🤓

[solid spindle]

I think you should be able to swop the game credits you get from playing into XP. I have 5000/5000 and can’t do anything. Would be nice to be able to “buy” xp with it.

[copper canopy]

some people got it in the first 7 days, others will never get it, it's all just luck. A gamble to make you play their game and do daily quests just for a cosmetic that you might not get

[left hazel]

nice. right now i just listen to it using spodify but it would be a cool features/quality of life.

[rough hinge]

Suggestion: Read this channel Embark

[ripe herald]

I am bad and refuse to get better, please help me by nerfing the things that make me sad Embark!!!

[silent fog]

The game has somehow gone so far backwards since the end of S2.
You took 104 days to "fix" cash out, but all you did was make it so much worse. (plug meta is bad on it's own, combine it with only 10% wipe while getting 2.5x the cash for kills it gets worse. Spawns are probably the worst they've ever been too.)
Performance is worse since patch 3.14.
Buildings break way easier which makes the maps play like shit and also doesn't help with performance.
Multiple audio bugs. (People shooting you have no audio. Infinite shooting sound bug.)
Cheaters are rage hacking to ruby without getting banned.
Nerf Model 1887.
Nerf Charge n Slam.

@acoustic warren it was 30%. Maybe it's more fun when you're a casual player. It's not more fun for comp players.

Maybe you're just shit and get wiped a lot that's why it's unfun to you.
It's a necessary punishment because in ranked people just ape everything without strategy or thought because you only lose 10%.
10% is only healthier for the game if you're a shit player.
S2 also didn't have 500 cash per kill.
Im fine with keeping it low in WT, but in ranked reckless fights that get you wiped should be punished.
Doesn't necessarily need to be 30%, where did I say that?
@dark niche so?

[acoustic warren]

10% wipe is leagues better than how it was in S2. i forgot the % from then but id rather die than go back to that. the game is more fun with 10% wipe

edit for reply: what the fuck are you on about? 30% for getting wiped is genuinely unfun as fuck and is an unnecessary punishment

10% is way better and healthier for the game. maybe 15-20% if it were to get upped but we should NOT be reverting back to 30% penalty 😭😭

that 30% was so bad it literally decided games i played back in S2

[smoky sluice]

why do i not get my 14 points after being disconnected from final round??

@dark niche and 4 times they were right

[dark niche]

I have seen this exact message maybe four times oh my god

[sharp estuary]

Day#5 Rework the dual blades: The third attack of the combo should be the first attack and it should be faster and a dash attack, that way players could reach the enemies easier, the damage of the first attack would be increased from 70 to X1 100, X2 60; X2 50, the dual blades should be able to deflect when running but I'm not sure if the latter would be balanced

[earnest socket]

Fein

[primal hornet]

+1

[opal ocean]

Day 50 asking can we have text chat for console thank you

[short dock]

Y'all should make ospuze a real thing I wanna know what it tastes like so bad I wanna drench myself in ospuze and take an ospuze bath. I wanna pop pour and perform every day of my life. If Mr thick of it can make prime real I don't see why y'all can't make ospuze real. PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE I WANNA KNOW HOW IT TASTES SO BAD

[quick coyote]

give us SBMM!!! please stop teaming me with noobs and 12 year olds!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

quiqkmatch is unbarable at the moment so is random matchmaking world tour and tournament

[polar blaze]

^^^

[thorn kelp]

#stopmeleeracism

[mighty cedar]

Trash devs. Balance your game properly @wind meteor cry about it. Hey! stfu :) dont care for your opinion

[wind meteor]

Have some respect. you're getting the game for free. No one is trash but your attitude.

@mighty cedar omg you killed with that reply... the only one crying here is you

[quick coyote]

Please fix the hit registration at very close-mid range with the deagles

[turbid tree]

In my opinion, it is worth removing the third attack of double swords from the combo, leaving only two stages. I think that the first and second stages need to be equalized in damage (100 for the first stage and 100 for the second) and slightly speed up the animation of the attack. From the third attack, need to make a separate technique, which will be activated by holding down the left mouse button. Accordingly, the damage from the new attack will be more powerful (130). It is advisable to start combos with this attack in order to inflict more damage, but with an enhanced attack, the animation lasts longer, so you take a peculiar risk or compromise. I suggest we do the same for the heavy spear. Only there will the attack remain in the combo, but it can be triggered first by holding down the left mouse button

[shy fossil]

the truth is that I also hate to play with emerald or ruby being gold, when it was silver and bronze also happened the same, at least that is a pairing according to the rank.

another thing, not associated to the comment, reduce the experience needed for the last 10 levels, seriously I already calculated what I need approximately, and it would be to play, read well the following; about 500 games that I must play to complete the battle pass (6 and a half levels left), in effect dear contestants that spend all the time playing and have no life, and that I am contemplating the weekly and daily tasks, and I calculated these 500 games playing moving power, which is where you get more experience per time played, 10 minute games, where if you do well (exactly, I'm not talking about excellent) you get 1200 exp, and if you play support 1400exp

[rapid rover]

Fix the goddamn game audio tired of people sneaking up on me, and to be specific the game audio bugs out when a lot of destruction occurs

[short dock]

No cuz why can't I buy ospuze irl. you know how cool it would be for my friends to see me drinking ospuze and ask me "whats that?" and then I respond, "Oh its Ospuze" "Pop pour perform!". Would this not be ideal? It would be so cool if Ospuze was real I wanna know how it tastes so bad. I wanna get hooked on Ospuze and then when the day of my general chemistry for engineers exams falls upon me I blame my failure on the absence of Ospuze. I want Ospuze so bad please devs🙏 I wanna pop pour and perform so bad. I wanna say I could kill for some ospuze right now and then justify cracking open another can by dropping 20 kills. think of the possibilities of making Ospuze real!!

[river peak]

Sorry to be a cringe baby about the sword but here I go. Sword did not need to be nerfed. It will always be out matched by a gun and as the sword's entire point is close range, it should have an advantage in close quaters as it does not have range. It is easily countered by some what decent aim from a distance and glitch traps and models destroy sword dash close up. I understand it is frustrating to be team wiped by a skilled sword player but not standing so close together and playing with a bit of awareness is how to deal with a sword light. Another frustration is that a sword's lunge does not out distance a heavy charge. Surely a sword at arms length should beat an elbow? With the nerf has also come some unexpected issues with the sword such as sometimes attempting to lunge after coming out of mid-air now no longer lunges. Please revert the nerfs, it is making the sword even less of a playable weapon ;(

[modern tulip]

Help I can't hear when someone sneaking up from behind, sometimes some guns such as fcar/M60/akm doesn't have a sound when the enemys firing... It's so weird

[quick coyote]

please stop matching me with FUCKING UNRANKED AND BRONZE PLAYERS! im platinum

STOP GIVING ME DUPLICATES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[polar blaze]

SAY IT LOUDER 🗣️🔥

[next harness]

I agree or at least give us option in settings where we can lower destruction sounds,
And quick question is it possible that there are so many players that you just peek from afar even before shooting and they immediately zero on me full mag without miss?

[upbeat fern]

Does anyone have any promo codes?

[wise rain]

Ranked crossplay is the dumbest thing they added made even worse with bad turn speed at max sens on controller
I'm not sure who thought it was a good idea but solo qing in ranked Crossplay is unviable which means if you want to play ranked crossplay you go in with a full group of PC players and pub stomp farming ELO easy mode.
But thats not all! this means everyone playing without crossplay turned on gets q times over 5 minutes usually which is bad for both console and pc players. Every single Crossplay match I have the console players are going 0/5 and cant read text chat.
having ranked crossplay servers is a waste of resources and queue times.
a middle ground for crossplaying would most likely be playing in PC servers if there is at least 2 PC players on your team. You could experiment by reducing it to 1 if its way too op

[sudden pawn]

2 things for the medium as new gadgets and specs

-As a new spec I would thing a competitor to the healing beam somethign stationary would be good like a sonar you trwo it on the ground and in like a circle (15m radius or smth) teammates and u would be healed. The healing should be less then the healing beam maybe half of it but it heals all the team at once and all players can shoot other players could destroy it by shooting it (maybe 1200 hp or smth).

-Secound a gadget like a grenade simular to the vanish grenate of the light but instead of vanishing u and ur team it heals (150 hp or smth like that) it would have a bit longer cooldown and simular rang.

I think these two things would be really fitting for the medium and would hake him more of a supporter bc currently hes just a guy who can shoot and can do some other cool shit but not the support it should be so I hope u guys think about these additions to the game thx!

[sudden spire]

The audio gets buggy when you use the new Steam Recording feature. It becomes very loud and tinny

[jolly glade]

Punching melee weapon would be cool.

[dire escarp]

NERF MODEL

[tired fable]

what about create, as gravity or UFO, a random rebuild structure event during match ?

[dark niche]

real though melees don’t need nerfs

[violet matrix]

It's clear that Embark doesn't listen to the community anymore and they are abandoning the game, it's a shame since it's a very good game but now it's boring and repetitive, nobody plays competitive tournaments in South America anymore and they don't even create new game modes to vary and attract a new audience, it has a lot of graphical glitches that make the skins look bad, it's clear that they ignore the finals to give priority to the Arc riders, I've invested money in the game but Embark has disappointed me a lot lately.

[south prism]

This please

[cursive plank]

"dubble"

[jagged ocean]

After checking sights options, im confused asf why 93r doesnt have a sight option, even famas and some weaps like m11 who didnt even have a proper already placeable location for a sigh technically also have said option, 93r isnt a shotgun, sniper, "projectile type" or melee, is also the same as famas (both burst and precision weaps) yet doesnt get the sight, even tho its very much needed for it IMO (also pic above is the location where the 93r could have its sight, in-game m11 has exact same flat surface for also for ITS sight location) 93r deserves some love :(

[bronze pumice]

• Model nerf (108 damage)
• Make the spear alternate attack cancellable
• Charge & Slam nerf (50, 80, 130 instead of 130, 50, 50 and make it so you have to commit to the slam at the start)
• XP-54 buff (17 damage)
• Accessibilty option which allows for tap fire and burst fire weapons to just be held down
• Text chat for consoles
• Release the other variants of the hair used in the rockabilly outfit, they existed in the OB but we only got the blonde version in the battlepass back in S1
• Would like to see sys$Horizon and Fortune Stadium eventually get some love with variants

[iron bough]

Just delete this trash Embark.

[uneven dagger]

Delete this channel

[burnt notch]

It’s going away in 3 days chill bro

[flint goblet]

Got suspended after leaving a game that only had one other teammate in it at game start. It clearly said I would not get a penalty, yet I did... I'd advise you to fix that bug asap

[wraith orchid]

i honestly think the only way to balance model is to give it a major firerate nerf since the damage is already in the right place and the reload duration is also really long. we could experiment with 109 damage per hit with the current firerate which could also be fair and shouldnt impact the fun of the weapon as much as firerate buffs.
Appohs newest Youtube Video is really good where his guest states that you guys should be more harsh or ruthless in terms of nerfs since there is only one true logical point of absolute balance.
i was saying this since ever but as you write your opinion in here you get shut down by people who „know it better“ 🤪
ly🫶🏻

[serene ledge]

In game event idea: “Make it Rain”

Potentially a WT cashout exclusive

-Players have to find cover inside from the hailing coins falling from the sky. -Players who remain outside will take damage from the coin showers. -Standing in the open for, say, 5-6 seconds can eliminate the player
-This can force players to be confined inside for a few minutes, making for long distance engagements through openings and windows, or short distance engagements if everyone is in the same building.
-Standing in the coin showers could also benefit the team. If a player stands out for that same time it takes to kill them, maybe it gives them a 1,000 coins, helping them boost their way into the lead or to just get a bit ahead of another team.
-Event could last 3 minutes

Let me know what you guys think

(See S0lfur’s comment below for a better variation of this)

[tired fable]

i think it's too restrictive and troublesome, you need to change placement too often in the finals

[raw blaze]

I feel like instead of encouraging people to stay away from outside and near their cash outs, it should encourage people to be away from their cashouts for a greater risk yet bigger reward. I think that there should be a moving "Cash Cloud" around the map that is still raining coins but instead of taking damage, eliminations while standing inside of it are double from what they are normally. This could potentially be a different event idea. I just wanted to base it off of yours. (Generally I just wish for more gamemodes and events. I love Cash Out and it is the focus of the game, but realisitically I am not sure how much longer it will be before we get tired of the same gamemode Over and Over and Over again. We need more things to either mix up that gamemode, or just have different but still unique forms of play!)

[covert yacht]

like can i get an explanation on this balance team like how do they just not buff or nerf things they see are bad and good like model still best wepon in the game Spear for heavy unusable xp54 on light has been bad ever sence the nerf like there is never going to be a meta shift if they dont wanna make big changes its only going to be medium all the time like i would not mind a change for once

[obsidian sail]

adjustable opacity for various HUD elements please

[sharp estuary]

👏

[frank jungle]

Event/mode idea: power shift but the platform moves to the center when unattended

[blissful smelt]

I am noticing that the H / flametrower setup is sort of ruining the game. I mean, there are ll these boring INDOOR CASHOUT - which eliminates already the meaning of the sniper & low fire ratio weapon - but it's very boring to go to the "cashout room" and seeing flames coming, and you are dead.
It's dumb, it's killing the game experience... get rid of it pls

[lunar iron]

The lack of VRs sinks is a problem and the wheel just made it so much worse and apparent. I was thinking what if there were daily boosts you can buy that are Ospuze drinks. DIfferent kinds of Ospuze cans that give a small power-up regardless of which class you play. One drink makes you a little faster. Another one maybe a little tankier. This way you can customize your loadout just a little more. Feeling squishy as a light? Drink a tanky Ospuze drink. When I say this as well, Im not saying like HUGE boosts. Just small augments that make 2%-5% max bonus on health, speed or other applicable boostable modifiers

[flint goblet]

I definitely agree that VRs currently are completely useless, would be nice if they implemented something fun/meaningful to use them on. Not sure buffs would be the right way though

[grand wing]

Honestly they should add some extra items or skins that can be bought with a large amount of VRs so it makes them more worthwhile

[harsh torrent]

What is wrong with hit registration noww😭😭😭👎

[thorn kelp]

I agree

[quick coyote]

Buff FCAR

[frank holly]

seconded

[mint wing]

Data reshaper should work on grenades
Thermal vision should highlight enemies in their team colors

[burnt notch]

Data reshaper already works on grenades

@karmic spoke you have to either stun the stealer with stun gun, or kill them while they’re stealing, if they stop stealing before you kill them, it doesn’t count.

@iron bough what exactly is bad about it

[karmic spoke]

is the challenge to disrupt 10 steals on your teams point bugged? because mines stuck at 0 and so is my friends, i was wondering is anyone else having this problem?

[iron bough]

But they will bring it back if we don't say anything. Delete this trash, Embark.

[mild tide]

Please for the love of god, remove the Low Gravity effect, it makes the weapons affected by gravity useless

[nimble tiger]

zero sword players and lights in general on ranked - good work Embark!

[violet matrix]

It's clear that Embark doesn't listen to the community anymore and they are abandoning the game, it's a shame since it's a very good game but now it's boring and repetitive, nobody plays competitive tournaments in South America anymore and they don't even create new game modes to vary and attract a new audience, it has a lot of graphical glitches that make the skins look bad, it's clear that they ignore the finals to give priority to the Arc riders, I've invested money in the game but Embark has disappointed me a lot lately.

[dense agate]

dude this implies 100% accuracy from the opposing weapon which is unrealistic. It already is a movement weapon and it is meta in an unhealthy state right now, something needs to change and putting it down just a little bit is the downtick it needs, decreasing rpm on an already slow gun would just make the gun unfun, but lowering the damage to force closer engagements will heighten the skill ceiling.

[quick coyote]

Please fix the hit registration on close-mid range for the deagles. They’re borderline unplayable

[sullen current]

main reason why new players are quitting is because of the light class

Nerf the light class or remove it entirely.

[hybrid hearth]

I joined a game mid match and before I could even WALK OUT THE DOOR the game ended.
It then proceeded to happen AGAIN 2 games after that. wtf

[neon burrow]

As it should be, its called getting filtered

[low epoch]

How is it fair, we are seeded 7th and we ended up 7th and we loose almost 1000k RS.....what the freck is this horrible system.

[quick coyote]

I win like barely get enough to get 28k then y'all give me teammates who don't play objective or bronze teammates and in like 6 matches straight

[lyric whale]

deagles have a small amount of bloom which makes them inconsistent at range but overall hit reg has been really bad this season (mind u i play on ping bc oce hasn’t had a ranked game since launch) but it’s still not uncommon for the people i play with to have full famas bursts no reg or me having consecutive deagle shots not registering. it needs something done because it isn’t uncommon for my bullets to seemingly disappear while fighting. in quick cash on my servers there’s still problems

[rough storm]

-Nerf Model Damage to 99 so the users can't 1v3 anymore
-Double the first Respawn CD off every game to avoid ppl that just got rekt by the fourth team waiting at the vault, punishing the team that wiped the others.
-Put a team-wide (shared) CD on the Defib to make team fights fair again.
-Make cancellation of climbing animation instantly

[scarlet robin]

KS BUFFS

[sleek flame]

Shotguns needs to get some tweaks

SH1200:

• damage decreased to 124-128
  (The reload speed already ridiculous)

Model 1887

• damage 108-112
• increase reload to compensate

SA12

• RPM needs to be decreased SLIGHTLY

[spark shard]

I'm not going to mention that the Model needs to be nerfed; I'm going a step further: what is the point of giving this weapon to a class that has good HP and great mobility? It adds to the fact that there is no recoil penalty on the weapon; it is always steady, regardless of whether you're walking, running, jumping, or doing 70 backflips... weapons like this, as they are currently built for a Medium class with the characteristics described above, make zero sense.

I don't know how you plan to fix this when you're constantly nerfing other weapons that could counter the Model.

[tropic swift]

The game overall has turned into a rock paper scissors game with too much distance between classes and gadgets that doesn't blend in together. I think the classes are way too different from each other in order to balance, otherwise the game is going to stay as a braindead ability game. Spawn positions are horrible, there are way too many instances where teams wind up on a single cashout instead of the other, or spawning right next to a team.

Audio pollution in this game is probably the worst I've ever experienced since Apex Legends. I lost multiple games because the game couldn't even alert me with sounds you should be able to hear in every game. Ex: A whole team running right below you

• Footsteps are basically close to none
• Sometimes gunshots from enemies becomes silent, making it more difficult to gather information using sounds especially in a gun fight
• Sometimes important sounds like cash out alarms don't play
• Sometimes gunshots continuously play despite the player being dead
• I can't even hear my own gunshots

Classes and balancing:
Insta kill elements(In lights and heavies mostly) in the game is way too much. The concept of lights need to be figured out because it's a balancing hell for you guys. The class needs more survivability and not kill speed. Increased kill speed only will have frustration on the side being killed and less dependent on the individual's skill.

Heavies have decent abilities that seems fair, but charge n slam is way too broken. Reduce the damage a little bit. The hit registration for melee weapons are weird, same for charge n slam.

MMM meta with the model needs to be fixed. There is zero creativity and fun involved to use the most bland class in the entire team. Actually, there should never be a meta where only a single class is used in a team. THIS IS WHY THE CLASSES SHOULD NOT BE TOO DIFFERENT. IT CREATES TOO MUCH DIVISION IN THE META AND IT MAKES BALANCING MUCH HARDER

[cyan pawn]

day whatever 2 of asking embark to revert back to season one
also the breakout thing is not esports that is a 3am gold lobby, what i mean by saying that is the state of the game is dogshit not the players

[upper saddle]

Currently Charge and Slam is all Charge no Slam, often used as a 'panic button' or cheap way to get an easy kill on an opponent, having played with many different friends over the seasons of the game there's always one thing I hear from each one of them- "Of course, charge and slam" when a Heavy hits them with what is essentially a free 130 damage, players find the bursty nature of this "destruction" specialization to be very frustrating and often call it a "Skill Button" in the modern Finals Community since it can often completely negate a more skilled player's advantages over a less skilled player.

Many heavy players supplement the weaknesses of their weapons with the burst damage provided by Charge and Slam reducing the trade offs from picking say- a Lewis Gun for sustained mid ranged damage and an SA1216 for bursty close range damage since Charge is doing SA1216's job it in this situation allowing the Charge Heavy to get the best of both weapons.

Some people say they don't want Charge and Slam to deal any damage, some people want it reduced to 50 on all hits, some people want it to have damage that ramps up each hit starting at 50 to reward heavies for maintaining a lock on a target and repeatedly hitting them with Charge, my personal opinion is the Slam part of the ability is fine but changing the Charge Damage from 130 on the first hit and then 50 on following hits to simply 70 on the first hit and all following hits will continue to reward heavies for maintaining the charge on targets without completely gutting the first hit's damage and will curb the busty nature of this specialization that frustrates players on the receiving end while also promoting the impact of a player's decisions between a sustained damage primary weapon and a 'burst damage weapon'.

[vague shadow]

This game is rigged pls delete

[bitter iris]

put in console only crossplay last night i waited in queue for 2 hours with cross play off and didn't find a match this was world tour btw you cant even find one for ranked no matter the time of the day to any dev that thinks crossplay between console and pc is ok you aren't the brightest

[fervent vortex]

charge is not a problem compared to winch so rn it just doesnt matter

[pine jolt]

Honestly I've seen a lot more heavies with charge n slam than winch, and as a light main it hurts like hell

[lyric belfry]

I have spent the last few days thinking about cool new ideas for canisters and items they've deleted. I think that a canister listed as muck that would make walls and floors sticky to make it harder to walk on that floor. So it's not too broken they should have a water barrel that makes the floor slippery and undoes muck. As for the night vision they removed almost a year ago from the Heavy class. I think they should make it to where it helps outline enemies from a distance. They had this medium ability back is Season 1 that let you see enemies through walls. It would be cool if they could add it back but to where it behaved similar to a sonar grenade where it pulses. Maybe even give it a unique sound

[echo urchin]

Not a rare occurrence while solo queueing.

The game needs better social features so it’s easier to make friends while playing. I tried LFG, it’s the most useless dating app ever.

That said, I have made friends through the game, but they aren’t always available.

Now, I don’t know what the solution is, but it shouldn’t be this punishing to solo queue.

[white mountain]

Was playing powershift with random team. Team mate threw a sonar grenade, identified several people as it should however, after said people died and respawned, they were still being targeted and I could see where they were for the rest of the match.

[ionic pumice]

Light knife need to be nerf OK I will start by saying m not a good player m just a normal player who sometimes does good sometimes just sucks in a game but there are certain light players with zero skill only spam knives with no aim certainly using macros on mouse which act as a auto clicker even if ya slide change angle and shoot they spam so much that out of 100 90% ya loss the duel as the damage from the knives is so high we need to be lucky all the time they just need to be lucky twice on their zero skill blinder shoot. On the next BP knife need to be Nerf or else they will continue spamming👍👍

[magic widget]

Possible idea to reduce defibs a bit:
Make data reshaper reset a defib statue, would give it more usage and make defib a lot worse
or
Make the revive animation damagable (with some damage reduction)for a safer, all-class option

Possible idea to strengthen glitch grenade usage and weaken stun-gun crutch (guilty as charged):
Swap their abilities, as in stun gun now takes away abilities/shields and glitch grenade heavily limits movement, but still allow movement specializations to override it/make it last not nearly as long, also gives aps a little more play as well

[silent fog]

Fix this dogshit model and charge n slam meta please for the sake of your game.
You somehow ruined your game.

[surreal meadow]

another reason to not buff 93r
(famas in every way is better than 93r, AND its on a class with 100HP+ - which is backwards - make it make sense)

[neon burrow]

"Lfg is the most useless dating app ever"

Damn bro hol up lemme get that real quick, i wanna debut as an eboy

[jagged ocean]

NOT buff 93r? Its weaker and on a lower hp class, hows that a good reason to NOT buff it huh (im confused ;-;)

[shell turret]

Boy they did a nomber on the sword. What kills it is that loooooong prep time to stab. Just makes it so slow and cumbersome....ugh.

[simple falcon]

is anyone else having the problem of the game completely erasing your loadout sometimes?

[neon burrow]

That was not touched whatsoever

[bitter iris]

why should a person that has to aim with there thumbs have to play against someone that aims with their entire arm why should a console player have to play against somebody that spent two thousand dollars on building a pc so they can run every game at over 120fps while the console player is stuck at 60fps why does a console player have to deal with a pc player that is half way across the map killing them by hitting them in the head with a FMAS why can't a console player play the game in a fair and balanced playing field where their is only console players from both PlayStation and Xbox without any pc players to ruin the fun why does a console play have to play during a certain time of the day to get a game with crossplay off because they are forced to play with their console and only their console why embark why do console players have to suffer @polar blaze maybe you just suck with it

[dry scarab]

give heavy a jetpack and dual wield minuguns

[calm orbit]

No

[quick coyote]

I play on EU and should have great connection ( on other games, I’m not sure how to check on the finals). Still occasionally on close-mid range for some reason my entire mag dumps don’t register even when the enemy is fully encompassing the cross hairs. Lately it’s been so bad my randoms this afternoon thought there was an invisible wall

[polar blaze]

Sword nerf was definitely overboard and it’s even harder to use now in any ranked game.

[keen shoal]

https://tenor.com/view/jinko-ospuze-the-finals-ospuze-outburst-gif-9588908024285523003

[surreal meadow]

https://tenor.com/view/troll-gif-22834483
sarcasm for embark cause they clearly love it

[rough storm]

-Nerf Model Damage to 99 so the users can't 1v3 anymore (or swap it with the heavy KS weapon which actually is a support weapon)
-Double the first Respawn CD off every game so the first team that gets wiped can't rush the other cashout, punishing the team that wins the second team fight. (cuz this steal and plug meta is already bad enoug)
-Put a team-wide (shared) CD on the Defib to make team fights fair again.
-Make cancellation of climbing animation instantly

[spare nebula]

My game is completely bugged all my characters are invisible both in main screen and character select screen, I can’t make new characters. I’ve reset the game, the console and cleared cashed, also have redowloaded the game. Need this looked at asap. I have screenshots if any devs want to see

[viscid terrace]

none of the devs listen to us so I am just saying that I hope everyone has a nice day (but model users)

[civic thistle]

maybe nerf the lh1 in light? please?

[stuck sentinel]

delete Kyoto pls

[slender pine]

Can we nerf medium pls 😦 you're at a disadvantage if you're not playing medium. it sucks

[keen heath]

Can you revert the Sword nerfs or give it half its range back?
This way it not as long as it use to be so the "complainers" about sword can still be fine knowing its not as long, But also give sword lovers alittle bit of there missing and much needed range because
Sword Feels like using a Slightly longer dagger that cant backstab
please Embark bring back my baby boi

[polar blaze]

^^^

[quick coyote]

this game is so dead its literally a waste of my time to play if i dont have people that ik on by the time i get on i have to wait sometimes 30 minutes to an hour to find a ranked team around my rank. thats fucking crazy

[red arch]

Medium weapon feedback

New/Popular picks
Pike | Very very very slightly increase to RPM will bring it back in line with other weapons
Model | Base damage needs to be lowered, the range was not the main issue
Famas | Good spot overall and Best AR for medium, but excels at everything from long to close range. Could be changed to make it more viable in one or the others scenario

yes
AK | Mag increase, not sure why it got nerfed anyways, improve the hipfire, worse damage falloff
FCAR | 1+ Damage, Better damage fall off, worse hipfire
these 2 changes could help make both weapons feel more unique making AK more close range oriented while the FCAR excels at longer ranges with a decent crossroad for both guns are medium range.
Revolver | Decent weapon in good hands. Could be kept niche or very slightly improve damage

Very niche picks
Dual blades | Uh.... yeah!
Riot Shields | Hitboxes are all wonky and are a horrible experience to shoot at even if they're not "covered" by the shield. Decent in good hands.
CL40 | Thank you for nerfing this, should be kept that way.

[rough storm]

-Nerf Model Damage to 101 so the users can't 1v3 anymore (or swap it with the heavy KS weapon which actually is a support weapon)
-Double the first Respawn CD off every game so the first team that gets wiped can't rush the other cashout, punishing the team that wins the second team fight. (cuz this steal and plug meta is already bad enough)
-Put a team-wide (shared) CD on the Defib to make team fights fair again.

[civic thistle]

nerf the lh1 maybe?

[young smelt]

If i dont get the bat on the wheel im gonna lose it, good things i've gotten like 5k vrs which I can't use tho

[unreal fossil]

No. Why would you ? It's in a balanced state already.

[manic granite]

I've been playing every day since the Halloween update to get the roulette tickets, there are only 2 days left, I still need two rewards

[split osprey]

Because console players have built in aim assist, and because they require the same amount of effort
Maybe it's just a skill issue
Also, YOU LITERALLY DON'T HAVE TO, there is an option to disable crossplay

[neon burrow]

On god it is time for you to go to sleep

[granite ermine]

We need penalty for leavers STAT

[sleek flame]

Great balancing to the point that an entire team rage quits powershift, your CASUAL GAME.

[jagged cedar]

kid named aim assist:

[clear hemlock]

I believe there may be possibly just maybe an option to turn off crossplay

[untold willow]

Changes id like to see for comp/ranked from someone who has 900 hours on the game:
Balance

• xp dmg revert but nerf back the range
• Fcar recoil revert, 1 dmg buff, 24 bullets
• Akm 36 bullet revert
• Mesh revert or activation cost instead of CD (The juggling is what made it viable, an activation cost system of 50 HP could punish bad players for spamming while keeping mesh viable in ranked and competitive play)
• Charge Rework so it does more damage on secondary hits and not 130 insta win button
• give KS-23 2 more bullets
• make glitch grenade fuse time faster (impact would also work) and/or make glitch grenades 7s duration)
• buff 93R
• slight dmg buffs to Lewis and M60
• buff dual blades so they are a little less of a joke
• remove all innacuracies from revolver
• remove all innacuracies/bloom from Deagles when "scoped" in
• give either tracking dart or sonars to medium or rework Recon so its like sonars ( the blinks could move with you but to see them you would have to actively have the tablet out so you can't shoot while they are on)
• add grenade indicators
• reduce visuel recoil on guns in general and red dot sights

Cashout Changes

• change deposit bonuses to 3k , 4k , 5k
• fix spawns so you don't spawn on people
• increase wipe penalty

Private Matches
-add option for Final round config (3v3)

• add sliders for Cashout private match to change wipe amount and plug amount
• add option for full tournament (this is more niche and isnt as useful if you have the two prior)

These are the changes that i think would beneficial for the game.
Have a good week guys 🙂

[strange mountain]

4 season in and still no input base matchmaking?

[violet matrix]

It's clear that Embark doesn't listen to the community anymore and they are abandoning the game, it's a shame since it's a very good game but now it's boring and repetitive, nobody plays competitive tournaments in South America anymore and they don't even create new game modes to vary and attract a new audience, it has a lot of graphical glitches that make the skins look bad, it's clear that they ignore the finals to give priority to the Arc riders, I've invested money in the game but Embark has disappointed me a lot lately.

[harsh wren]

Million-dollar idea: add optional 4x sniper scope on mgl32

[dark niche]

i agree with the matchmaking tbf, consoles get it harder, and if ur console hitting Diamond - Ruby fair play, we just need console only matchmaking to make it fair for the FPS (we only get 60 Fps)

[tropic root]

It's really hard to balance weapons when the community says nerf, but the statistics says it's balanced.

The moment they listened to the community over statistics, weapons like the sword and the sniper felt janky and inconsistent.

[bitter iris]

ok I see that you are very dumb so let me explain it to you yes console has built in aim assist but the aim assist doesn't make it so you instantly hit all your shots aim assist exist help you hit your shots but anyone who has ever played on console knows it doesn't end up being the deciding factor in a gun fight because the aim assist is made to be very minor if you ever played on you would know this aim assist doesn't turn the worst console player into god it doesn't do it and for your "JuSt TuRn OfF CrOsSplAy" if read my post you would know but since you didn't let me explain if you turn off cross you CAN'T find a game for ranked at all if you play with crossplay off at night or early in the morning you cannot find a for world tour or ranked you can only find one for qc and i explained why it does this it does this because you can only play with your console let me say it again YOU CAN ONLY PLAY WITH YOUR CONSOLE that means you can only play with Xbox if you are on Xbox you can only play with PlayStation if you are on PlayStation you will be in a queue for hours and you will never find a game let me say it again YOU WILL BE IN A QUEUE FOR HOURS AND WILL NEVER FIND A GAME do you understand @jagged cedar this goes to you @clear hemlock and you @mint jewel that's just a blatant lie @jagged cedar so you can't read @clear hemlock god it's like talking to a brick wall make it so PlayStation and Xbox can only play with each other @oblique atlas nobody should have to buy and learn a new input just to compete in a game because the devs are to lazy to add in console only crossplay @clear hemlock I'm not complaining about only playing with console I'm complaining about not being able to only play with console

[fierce valve]

Day 8000 of asking for Solo Bank It back in Private Matches

[jagged cedar]

Oh my yap. Cope harder bot

[mint jewel]

Naah, need more nerfs for sword, I saw Asia player already found the way to get around the nerfs already

Oh and for console, just saying, Cod and Apex player proof that you can as good as mouse and keyboard users so its no need to get salty about it right? Unless you want to get rid that aim assist 😄

[rough storm]

That's cuz the skill ceiling needed to be higher.
It's still at a point where if you're good with it you can outplay everyone in the game and your only nemesis' are charge n slam and stun gun.
It's good where it's at right now and IMO, go play world of warcraft if you wanna sword ppl to death. It shouldn't completely outshine every 1v1 in a FPS game that's all about team-play.

[misty wolf]

my gf needs one more item and it is the grenade 😭

[clear hemlock]

So what are devs supposed to do about it? Complaining when you play with PC players. And you complain when you only play with console.

[oblique atlas]

Add back M&K would be a start, I mean it’s available to work on both consoles if they decide to implement it, xbox even had M&K support in beta I believe and was later removed.

[polar blaze]

Why would the skill ceiling need to be higher for an already c tier weapon. Whenever I play any other class. Dealing with sword using lights is the easiest thing ever. The only people who struggle with sword lights are people who can’t space themselves properly and people with bad aim. Even the dagger is more viable now than the sword is. I get it can be annoying for people with the dash and stun gun but the sword itself wasn’t the problem. It was the combination of the dash and stun gun as well as the gadget swapping exploit that made it annoying. So instead of nerfing the sword itself, nerf the stuff that makes it a problem. But if you can close the distance between a player with a close range melee weapon then there should be no reason that you can’t kill someone within a certain distance ESPECIALLY if dagger can do it and can do it better. But that’s my opinion ig. Not everyone’s got to agree with it.

[lapis kestrel]

idk if it's just me, but every world tour game i get into is completely unfair, i have 100 hours and i'm silver 1 rn, every game i get into almost garuntees two other teams are gonna be better than my team at gold and one team is gonna dominate the lobby with emerald players and quick cash is the same thing but somehow even worse, almost every quick cash game i get into has even better players with even more kills under their belt and it just isn't fun

[icy steeple]

my hopes and dreams

• keep current sword range, but revert its cone nerf (this has lead me to quite literally going through people and they dont take damage)
• buff mp5 to actually make it worth ever running over M11
• Bow is good in the right hands, if were keeping all guns (cough 1887) the same make the full draw 125
• take away stun gun's full ability to do anything but stop actions (heavy's put RPG's away, mediums put defibs away, stops steals/rezzes) stun gun has been broken since launch, not because its stun gun but because it has quite literally just been turned into the free kill gun. Stopping steals with stun gun is incredibly powerful already and places on the same level as most other gadgets without the added free kill
• What in the world happened to rifles?? plz fix sights
  • FCAR is a throw away weapon, the only reason it is worth using over the AKM right now is my diamond skin
  • AKM cannot compete with famas if a fight is on equal footing
  • FAMAS is in a good state compared to its introduction, it was just "buffed" because the FCAR and AKM were both were nerfed
• Dual blades and riot shield? LMAO
• Revo is in a great spot but the pike should be removed, its directly competing with another gun for absolutely no reason
• Model is a little over powered... if you cant kill a medium in two shots with a bow you shouldnt be able to with a shotgun either, a damage nerf would help with MMM
• Defib - okay spot, perhaps dont let the defibed person be able to free look and instantly shoot me in the face. Defib also should not have an invincibility timer.
• Maybe we can give some medium specific gadgets to other classes to make them viable? :)
• Poor poor heavy, heavy went from the most broken class in the game to the throw away class over the course of a season and a half.
• Charge and slam would cease to be an issue if mesh shield was juggleable again.
• Melee weapons on the slowest class who cant chase is a good idea - (stun gun!)
  to be continued

[slow saffron]

This is super nit-picky, but you know you messed up. The sticker in the Hecate Hexcat set is just a black cat with a witch's hat. Nice and simple. Why.... whyy would you make the animal creature a black cat with white face paint? If you really had liked it, you would have put it on the sticker. 😫

[quick coyote]

All my homies hate visual recoil my eyes aren't apart of the gun m11s dot starts break dancing across my screen when I pull the trigger

[radiant imp]

Bring back solo bank it

[brisk garden]

could we get a visual queue for the invulnerability period after defib?

[split osprey]

Skill issue

[fierce valve]

Bring Back Solo Bank It

[opal ocean]

Bring back solo bank it!

[bitter iris]

It’s not but go ahead be dumb

[sudden tangle]

so increase every classes HP to increase the ttk. the thing im saying is light needs the tools to kill things before they kill it. in competitive this is not the case. light - IN COMPETITIVE ONLY, needs almost every nerf to weapons, specializations, and gadgets reverted JUST to be on even field with current M and H. This might sound extreme but for competitive this is absolutely the case.

give every class a 200% buff to HP to decrease ttk and call it a day.

[brisk crown]

☝️

[zinc haven]

you should find it bottom left of your screen

[surreal meadow]

light is non existant in ranked
light is dominating in casual lobbies

embark still isnt acknowledging it

[drifting pawn]

dude. 9 spins in a row on this garbage ass wheel event that ive gotten VRs. this is bullshit. im missing the green hair which i could care less for and the bat which is probably the 1 thing i wanted most

[past ridge]

Real talk right here, you forgot your crown king! 👑. Believe it or not, i'm facing or we now facing people who using soft cheat like aimbot. I dont know how it works, i dont know what it didn't undetected. But what i'm saying is what i'm facing right now

[light arch]

they should have it where you can play the practice range while you are loading into a match

[unborn garnet]

Its sad but true. This game had a lot of potential and it was something different. xDefiant was cool, but its another COD copy & paste knock off (Uneducated about the games performance so I'm unsure). I noticed in Season 1&2, Embark was engaged with the community quite often and see a lot of feedback from them and I made a comment on this channel not to long ago. Every patch notes are just statements about the new WT change, a couple bug fixed. Never any balancing changes and sure, they're "data" is what they use to balance things, but I think the community has a bigger opinion. If the majority of players are complaining about the model usage, and dmg output then its plain and simple that the gun is too op. the "range nerf" last week did absolutely nothing and as a model user (cause other medium weapons cant compete) I have noticed nothing different from pre/post nerf.

i wish they were a bit more vocal on everything more. i get the release of arc raiders but still dont abandon game that has potential

[magic wing]

I'm not saying the model doesn't need adjustment, it is very much the strongest weapon. But you're sharing a photo of one of literal best players in the game right now using the model, of course it's gonna look amazing. It's just a little ironic and not really helping the point

[hard magnet]

nerf charge n slam damage

[dreamy ore]

double sword need a bigger range of blocking, is a disaster, feels randoms sometimes. Also should be possible to cancel the attack with blocking

[wide void]

Model needs a damage nerf. Just make each of the 8 pellets do 1 less damage or make the outer 4 pellets do 1 less damage. Now it can't 2-shot Medium. I honestly think either of these would be a solid start to balancing it.

[late raft]

How TF am I loading into a ranked game with two people total

[magic cape]

if you miss winch claw it should act like grapple and not have a cooldown

[opal plover]

Servers just farted

[iron sleet]

yeah and all the bullets you failed to hit with your primary weapon should not be decreasing your ammo count

[quaint forge]

Lmfao and make it one shot any target with instant hitscan nade

[coarse jetty]

i hate how mediums dont have any guns viable for a variety of ranges. pike is long range and cant do mid or close, famas is mid and cant do far or long, and m1887 is close and cant do mid or far. LET THE AK AND FCAR BE GOOD AGAIN

[lunar iron]

🤣 Optional silencer as well so you can stealthily launch your grenades from afar without people hearing your FUMP

[snow cosmos]

Medium needs an adrenaline boost specialization

[wooden atlas]

AK isn’t good? I didn’t get the memo…still slaps me every time I face it

[magic cape]

So then nerf grapple with that logic, if you miss grapple it has a 10 second cooldown and if you hit grapple it has a 20 second cooldown

[fluid salmon]

this game makes my entire pc shit itself and, while the game runs at a comfortable 100-120 fps, the rest of my pc is completely unresponsive and i cant even alt tab out to turn down my music. please work on the optimization

[jagged cedar]

its different because grapple is burst movement required to keep light alive and winch claw is a guaranteed kill every time you land a winch

[coarse jetty]

you say that and wonder why you lose a fight with every medium not using one. i surely did before switching and realizing how good the 3 i listed are

[latent niche]

ℙ𝕝𝕖𝕒𝕤𝕖 𝕦𝕤 𝕨𝕖𝕒𝕣 𝕙𝕒𝕥𝕤 𝕨𝕚𝕥𝕙 𝕥𝕙𝕖 𝕀𝕤𝕖𝕦𝕝𝕥 𝕞𝕒𝕤𝕜 𝔼𝕞𝕓𝕒𝕣𝕜. 𝕀𝕥 𝕨𝕠𝕦𝕝𝕕𝕟'𝕥 𝕔𝕝𝕚𝕡 𝕨𝕚𝕥𝕙 𝕥𝕙𝕖 𝕧𝕒𝕤𝕥 𝕞𝕒𝕛𝕠𝕣𝕚𝕥𝕪 𝕠𝕗 𝕙𝕒𝕥𝕤 𝕒𝕟𝕕 𝕨𝕖'𝕕 𝕣𝕖𝕒𝕝𝕝𝕪 𝕒𝕡𝕡𝕣𝕖𝕔𝕚𝕒𝕥𝕖 𝕚𝕥 <𝟛

[tired ibex]

Make sword singlehit and then revert the latest nerf on it

[modest lotus]

Literally just nerf mediums. They have everything. Other classes feel pointless when 3x mediums beats it all

[magic cape]

its not a guarenteed kill, sure it gives you the advantage in the fight but so does grapple it should not be a 10 second cooldown when you miss it at the very least

[daring remnant]

bring back the glitch that let you equip the stitchface stalker (scarecrow hat) with a bandana, it was cool

[ebon coral]

nerf the invis light and the sho;tgun

[jagged cedar]

if you are playing winch sledge or sa12 and hit a winch, you are almost guaranteed to kill that player unless you fuck it up. Winch also has half the cooldown when you miss at 7 seconds instead of the regular 13. It already has a very forgiving hitbox and cooldown

[wooden atlas]

I lose to most mediums—including FCAR users (to say nothing of AKs). Not to say they shouldn’t be buffed, just they’re not really trash

[foggy marten]

The interrupt challenge is forcing me to play light, and I realized how OP light dash was, but dang… I’m getting so burnt out on this one single challenge forcing me to play the game in a way I don’t enjoy playing it. And I don’t have much more time before I’m gone for 2 weeks and won’t have time to finish it. Depressing af. I hate chores in games. 😦 I’ve been grinding it for 3 days of gameplay.. so like 7-8 hours? What the hell dude lol.

[coarse jetty]

at least youre honest, lol. i agree that they arent trash but to me, it seems that using them in high level play is nerfing yourself from full potential

[bronze pumice]

• Model nerf (108 damage)
• Make the spear alternate attack cancellable
• Charge & Slam nerf (50, 80, 130 instead of 130, 50, 50 and make it so you have to commit to the slam at the start)
• XP-54 buff (17 damage)
• Accessibilty option which allows for tap fire and burst fire weapons to just be held down
• Text chat for consoles
• Release the other variants of the hair used in the rockabilly outfit, they existed in the OB but we only got the blonde version in the battlepass back in S1
• Would like to see sys$Horizon and Fortune Stadium eventually get some love with variants

[gentle umbra]

I'm not liking the wheel for rewards. I've only got 2 days left to get 4 rewards and I'm a pretty regular player. I need to get a new item 66 percent of the time for me to unlock the new skin while my buddy already has it. It's pretty frustrating especially compared to a system that's tracks linear progress. The wheel is a fun theme but unless it has noticable bad luck protection it's doing more harm than good.

[dry lichen]

Charge and slam nerf I do agree with, the amount of times I’ll be minding my own business when a heavy takes me to 20hp then one shots me is honestly infuriating. Give it a lot more knock back, tone it down to 90-100, then decrease it by a specific amount dependent on class size for every successive hit. Ran into another heavy? That’s 75 off, a medium? 50. A light? 25. That way you can still reasonably take down a large amount of lights, and it would be a great counter. Decrease the turning ability of a charging heavy- there’s no way you should reasonably pull a 180 without loosing momentum and land a second shot on the same target to completely knock them.

[jagged ocean]

Oh lmao

[errant hornet]

Dearest embark. Please 🙏 fix equipment wheel on mnk. Please 🙏 fix the bug that keeps removing my weapon cosmetics and emotes. And also Please 🙏 rework the "blast caster" achievement. 😳

[jagged cedar]

speak the truth gloop 🗣️ 🗣️ 🗣️ 🗣️

[delicate elbow]

natural regen should stop when you start shooting

[thorn kelp]

Please add a Cinematic Mode for console 🙏🙏🙏

[fading pelican]

I really really hate the Contracts they made. The current one - Interrupt opponents trying to steal... 10 times is annoying. They have to count teammates's interrupt on this OR allow us to use VRs to fill contracts. Too restricting. Out of touch move from the devs. smh

[onyx crystal]

Make quick cash timer end at 0 🙏

[west trellis]

Watching old dagger clips and holy cow I miss the dagger and I wish they would revert it. Was the change intended to be a nerf? Did it need a nerf?? I know some dagger mains stuck with it and still have success, but I can’t get past the fact that it feels like unsatisfying and slow miserable garbage.

I would be fine with the slower charge up time if they made it work like knives rather than sword, as in you have the option to hold it and walk around, or you can just trigger it with one tap. It’s so miserable in a group fight when you get a kill and go for the next but let go of right click a split second before it’s ready and you end up doing nothing at all.

[quick coyote]

Please introduce a badge to display previous seasons ranks on the player banner (like s4 ruby etc.)

[thin terrace]

DECREASE SONAR GRENADES 2 ---> 1

[misty wolf]

hands on shoulder Remove Sonar Grenades, make them use Tracking Darts

[strong canyon]

there's a bug currently that appears to be deleting one of my three daily tickets for the treat hunt event. I spin twice and the third one just vanishes. I've found the ticket disappears after I get a new item (I was on 16/20 yesterday and then 17/20 today), as though there's a cap to only one new item per day once you're past like 15/20 items. Not sure if that's the case, just weird.

[copper canopy]

which gun is this

[cerulean mason]

Where is cool sawed off shotgun skin?? You guys allergic to skins for every light gun that isn't the m11 or something?

[cursive oxide]

Make Bank It - SOLO ONLY, Add 5v5 TDM & maybe Prop Hunt ..

[dense ocean]

day 58 asking embark
let console players able/disable HUD

[gentle fiber]

make getting to daimond ez pls

[thick sorrel]

The Finals Models Patch Notes 4.5.0 4.6.0 4.7.0

We couldn't balance 3 Classes and their Weapons. So we went this Season for MMM - Medium Model Meta.

~~Pike

• Decreased fire rate from 200 RPM to 199 RPM
  Dev Note: We suspect it may still be too effective, so we'll adjust in Season 5 maybe.~~

Model 1887

• Sniper Scope added
• ACOG (4x) added
  Dev Note: We nudge the effective range, so... deal with it.
  **Real Fix: 2-Shots Lights and 3-Shots Heavys, but not above 10m! - e.g. 117 Dmg+more Spread **

Akimbo Deagles

• Reworked: Shoots now explosive Rounds
  Dev Note: The midrange accuracy was way less oppressive than intended, so we added AoE to improve it.

Dual Blades

• Decreased blades from 2 to 1
  Dev Note: There's only one Blade. There's only ever gonna be one Blade.

MGL32

• Reworked: Grenades need to bounces 3 times before detonation
  Dev Note: It's so bad, I can't even make fun of it. Anyone?

Defibrillator

• Increase Charge from 1 to Two and a Half😩
  Dev Note: Defibrillated Medium's can instantly use their own Defibrillator. Obviously it's not Alan enough.

~~Healbeam

• Dogwalking plays the Theme from Ghostbusters
  Dev Note: What is Dead May Never Die~~

Charge & Slam

• Renamed to Flash & Hulk
  Dev Note: We thought the lightning-fast sprint activation and the damage level of Hulk Smash expressed it much better!

Spear

• Spinning it plays the Sound Helicopter Helicopter
  Dev Note: This makes your enemies laugh even more.

[soft spear]

Use credits to get most of the items and maybe Vrs for the cheaper items. Then just save your tickets to try and get what’s left.

[lucid shale]

xp-54 for Light

[unborn garnet]

I'm sure it wont be added onto this season release, but season 5 can we see a change to the RS gain?

For example, if you place 8th and lose like 800 RS, can you please change your performance in the game to either increase or decrease the RS loss?

If I drop 14 and 3 with like 3k-6k OBJ score, why am I going down equally as much as my tm8 who is going 3 and 12 with little to non OBJ score?

I'd like to see something done for Season 5

[copper canopy]

Lmao sometimes you’ve gotta carry your teammates. Just do better next time. Afterall you’re a plat in a lobby of golds so you should be doing better than 20 kills. I get an average of 30-35 with 4 deaths

[rough herald]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1183069658086117447/1303725265884545054/ezgif.com-animated-gif-maker.gif

[tired fable]

need helicopter spear

[gentle fiber]

my game keeps crashing since halowwen update bcz of vram even though i have 8Gb and never had an issue before halowween

[viral stump]

Crazy how quickly a game can go from "potentially best fps ever" to gimmicky bug riddled mess. Fix your game and do better. Literally took a week off to see if it was just burn out making the game feel trash but no. The game is just trash. GGs Embark you plaayed yourselves.

[wind meteor]

the diamond one is the light's XP-54

[fiery tartan]

👏 make the overtime timer be accurate 👏
it's so stupid with it being "10 seconds left folks" but then the game ends 3 seconds later.
it's incredibly frustrating when the only thing that gives an accurate reading for the time left is actually just pure misinformation---and it's an overestimate, not an underestimate

[delicate basin]

It would be kinda nice if the thing that tells you where bullets goes(sight), actually told you where the bullet goes

[gaunt condor]

almost a year after release and the game still suffering from server sync and performance issues. Prioritize fixing the important stuff instead of goofy skins

[onyx crystal]

Wheel would be INFINITELY better if you could spend 5 tickets to get any item guaranteed

[maiden ember]

I know this has been mentioned many times before, but the combination of Triple-M, the defibrillator, and the Model weapon needs to be addressed. While the Model's damage output may be fine, its greatest strength lies in its mobility. Unlike other weapons, you don't experience a speed penalty because you can keep shooting without aiming down sights. Most weapons suffer from decreased accuracy when hip-firing, but the Model appears to either maintain or even improve its accuracy in this mode.

Additionally, constant reviving remains an issue. As often suggested, the defibrillator should be a perk rather than a gadget.

[rough hinge]

Sounds like everything embark Out of touch dev studio would do

[hollow valve]

Tbh, I think the balance team should get good at the game and aiming.

The time now is not the old time when you simply share well crafted content and get lots of followers or famous. Now it's a competition of skill, not love. Sorry.

[zinc scaffold]

maybe they should actually play the game first instead of just looking at numbers and stats

[plush fjord]

three lights, one with stun, the other with vanish and the third with thermal bore? or just one light with all of that literally does everything. couple that with grapple and xp54 and bro has guaranteed kills

[modest lotus]

thats 450 HP total. to kill that team comp is so easy if you just play tactical. lights dont check the floor or walls, they trigger every mine, and never shoot sonars. unless its a ruby light player, 90% of the time they will lose. lights are not OP like eveyone says. people just dont counter lights like they need to

[jagged knot]

fomo

[verbal breach]

XP-54

[dry plover]

Make revolver has no bullet spread when not scope in, and is not a model because it has 1 bullet only, while model has 6 bullet comeout from the barrel

[wind meteor]

so it becomes a Model 2024...

[lucid cairn]

better anti cheat

[brittle zenith]

they pulled out exclusive items from the first battle pass and also an event that can't be completely closed ALL DAYS I farmed tickets and couldn't get all the rewards 🙂

there is no point in playing further after this

[plush fjord]

i mean i never said they were op, but the thing is that meds have their probs as well
theyre still slower than lights, have a lower avg dps (excluding model), and they dont have stuff like cloak and stun to help themselves. most of them are desperate for support cuz they have things like defib, jump pad and data reshaper, which doesnt exaclty help them when theyre isolated. and if they dont have the heal beam to back em up, then theyre shit.

yea i know model needs nerf, defib needs rework

[modest lotus]

you have never played medium correctly if you say medium has slow movement and needs support. mediums move faster than lights with utility. and mediums have great DPS considering they are supposed to be the support class. Medium is by far the most OP class and you can tell when you load into a game and see 8 mediums in a game that has 12 people in it. dont try and deflect it to lights because you cant land the shots on the small guy

[jagged knot]

No update today?

[lost talon]

Bruh why does everyone want an update every day.

[broken rover]

All i ask is to add Engimo Fcar

[wind meteor]

Boohoo, I'm a greedy shit, and I get free items but not all of them, so there's no point in having fun, boohoo... get yourself together man ❤️

@lost talon everyday? it's literally the weekly update on Wednesday.

[red arch]

recon senses back but instead of straight of wallhacks, 3 charges and you get a scan/blink of a specific radius with a 5-7 cooldown

[thorny lynx]

.... If I get duplicates (with 5000vr and everything unlocked) one more time.... uninstall

[tropic root]

you mean, this?

[maiden hemlock]

Where can I see the ping I'm playing with?

[chilly swift]

don't think u can

[mental hatch]

What’s the fk is this update nerf fukin model. Game is so boring, all the gameplay now is 128+melee

[vapid sand]

https://www.reachthefinals.com/patchnotes/470 link is working, but nothing announced yet

[upper granite]

Another day but I'm still asking for the same thing (pls listen to this! It's an easy but big improvement!) REVEAL the Emerald WT SKIN REWARDS AT THE START OF THE SEASON! I think a lot of Players dont have the time to grind for ranked AND WT so we have to decide. I wanna see what I get so I don't regret grinding ranked for a skin and then seeing 2 weeks B4 the season ends that I would get a Skin for my favorite gun for reaching Emerald 3, I am begging you!!!

[swift laurel]

can emerald rewards be announced early (preferably at the start) of the season instead of at the end of the season

[crimson sapphire]

Bro they can’t keep
Nerfing shit his buff the other guns

[lucid shale]

L patchnote, back to sleep

[neon moat]

Please add safe zone for the HUD like BO6/CS2!

[crimson ledge]

So disappointed by the update. So many weapons unplayable

[lost talon]

Still exesive. Just made a little mistake that's all. @wind meteor

[gloomy falcon]

please add Karambit / Butterfly Knife dagger skin. Thank You 🙂

[red arch]

talented dev team that refuse to do anything with insane out of touch priorities on game health, like you guys could throw out skins and no one would care if everyone wasn't so angry over balancing

[marsh elm]

Stop nerfing buff other classes so they can compete with medium

[placid cypress]

I’m having an issue where voice chat comes through my laptop speakers instead of my bluetooth headphones.

[brittle zenith]

It's crazy to make things from the battle pass paid 🙂

[waxen citrus]

No patch notes are u fr

[warm root]

I have a skin idea mid evil sheild skin with a wooden shield and mabey a bonk thing as the melee weapon. Like a tower shield and morning star or like an axe or hammer 😳 for riot shield

[robust patio]

where is the patch Embark

[round goblet]

Hello, I was just playing with them (Monesy guy) in the final round and lost, can attest they bypassed my 2 M's Riot shields and my 2 teammates are real good while everytime I go close with them crouch sneaking with sword to dagger they prefire me.

[fresh granite]

Allow steam friends to see you online in-game when you're set to "invisible" on steam. In-game friends get overridden when added on steam, either handle friends through steam or in-game

[wind meteor]

Guys, any weapon or class that people stack on, will make them OP. Ever played, for e.g., a powershift round against 5 L, 5 H, or 5M? Whatever class is stacked, it is very hard to handle. The thing is Med is getting stacked for the defib, and the model is sometimes stacked too. But just because you're dying against it often, doesn't mean it is OP, it means it's used a lot.
If the model is nerfed in damage or more spread, players will switch to FAMAS and get efficient with it, then you will wish they revert the model nerf.

[main ginkgo]

im just tired of lagging man, idk if its a me issue or what anymore D,:

[tropic root]

Patch notes C-C-C-COMBO BREAKER

[tough frost]

How is there still no info about the emerald rewards

[shut gyro]

If dev team thinks the game is currently balanced i am disappointed, season 2 were far more balanced than this season, lewis, m60, Fcar, AKM, xp and many others were all playable in S2, now it is only Model and believe me if model gets nurfed We will see triple double barrel meta, they need to revert the damage for M60, Lewis, Fcar and xp back those are the real weapons that should be meta not some niche shit.

[mortal notch]

This is what devs think about are complaints about balancing
And it shows yet another patch with no significant balance changes or improvements to the game (Or none)

[twilit sand]

please fix the bug where i crouch instead of slide while sprinting for toggle crouch users

[modern tulip]

Nerf charge damage... It's just doesn't make sense, they said they wanna make a game with longer ttk and more strategy but wtf is that 130-180 charge slam is just freak

[daring remnant]

the .50 akimbo should have a special reload animation for when you have only 1 shot left. There's 1 round left in the left pistol but the right pistol was empty. You should have to rack the right, right?

[astral mesa]

Aside from demat not working on occasion, this is a new one for me https://steamusercontent-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/17545836832538043/4F01479FF5FC52DE1AAD61F7E381C55F8C53337D/

[unborn pawn]

Is it possible to complete the wheel? 12 tokens without a prize seems unfair? 4 days of objectives to get nothing is rough.

[sterile yew]

yo this game keeps crashing my pc the hell, this is the only fps game that does it to me

[uneven siren]

next time an event uses that wheel, all the rewards should be purchasable with vrs if its the reward they want to give for having duplicates everyday even tho there's nothing to spend them on

[magic widget]

Embark, here’s an idea to rework the game feedback channel to weed out the ideas that are well-received by the community:
make each text have 2 reactions labelled to them, checkmark and x, if the ratio of checkmarks to x is very high, then its sent to a separate channel that pings you.
It makes it easier to see the good suggestions and feedback.
However, still have this channel open to devs, just to see if there’s a hotly debated topic or consensus that doesn’t align with something that did get sent over

[jovial sonnet]

add a queue that lets you only look for lobbies with certain maps. I never want to play kyoto and vegas again

[thorn kelp]

Cosmetics are unmatched in this game. Change my mind

[rough shell]

please make world tour have a level requirement. Its considered a competitive mode but I get people trolling every game. I shouldnt be getting level one players when I'm platinum in world tour...

[rugged cloud]

For some reason head 10 clips through the ospuze ski mask “blizzard mask”. It’s the only one

[lament sable]

Still no M shotgun nerf!!!!!! Its ruining lobbys, impossible to beat a pc player with a shotgun when playing on console

[clever bone]

just so you know i understand ur problem but you could turn crossplay off if you have so musch problems against pc players(idk how strong this effekts the matchmaking thought)

[wraith orchid]

we need a firerate and/or damage nerf to 109 per hit😀

[upbeat urchin]

you can use vrs to get some items from the wheel (yes it took me a week to realize it)

[hollow badger]

Make emerald v9s for s4 wt

[tribal rampart]

✅

[smoky gust]

✅
reacts were removed because people misused them
if every message has a check-mark and an x attached, we could still show our dis-/agreement without this downside

[lament surge]

this season ended early for me. If you're not using the model and/or playing with a 3-stack, there's no chance of you getting past first round in ranked. It baffles me how much Embark is ignoring the model problem, at this point the only reason I can think about is probably because they profit too much with the dough wrangler skin cause there's no other explanation. The game sucks rn, balancing is at its worse state it's ever been, performance of the game gets worse every update, you guys don't address the problems, keep ignoring the entire community, weekly updates with literally 0 changes. Just admit you're working on Arc Raiders and don't give a f*ck about The Finals. And let's not even start on the gambling wheel. Embark is just another company after all, I regret spending a dime in this game and wasting my time with it.

[lone obsidian]

Stacking 5 of something doesn’t automatically make it OP it’s only if the thing that’s stacked is inherently strong alone or stronger when stacked.. in the case of model 2 players using it can make TTK against players practically instant.. you don’t get that kind of burst dps from many other weapons. Stacking 5 heavies in power shift is only going to be hard if your team doesn’t want to counter by using lights with glitches same goes for 5 lights your team can fairly easily counter, this is assuming both teams are equally skilled.

[sterile yew]

✅

[obsidian sail]

When you reshape a bunch of objects that are close to each other, they blow up.

[shy token]

As we can all see, THE FINALS' community is deeply passionate when it comes to concept art and making drip. Earlier this year we saw the switch away from exclusive bundle pricing to individual items now being made available for purchase. This alone allowed a great amount of customisation and personalisation of the game. But @shy token is back this time to argue the case for community driven input.

By allowing the community to create fan-made concepts and outfits using available items, TF has allowed its community to creatively flourish. However, we think, and there are others who have considered this idea as well within the community, that new community made items should be given the chance to be official and in-game.

This would not be the first time that such a thing exists in the world of gaming. Warframe's 'TennoGen' is one of the best examples of having the community be involved in the creative process. This engagement's potential is virtually limitless and invaluable for the game's longevity and community. It can be further sustained by giving the creator(s) a chance to be awarded through a variety of ways, in combination or merely by themselves:
(a) recognition,
(b) in-game or IRL payment,
(c) but most importantly a free (perhaps personalised) version of the very same item that will be immortalised in the world of TF.
(DAY 79)

[upper citrus]

[sleek flame]

Then buff the other guns, the only reason why shotguns in general are seeing the light of day is because they keep nerfing everything else into oblivion.

• FCAR recoil and damage at range is holding it back from being good

• AKM the mag size and damage at range decease was not needed

• XP the scope change (WHY WAS THAT NECESSARY!?)
  and damage reduction was unwarranted. All it need was a range reduction.

• V9S just disable the ability to bind the fire button to the wheel!

There are a plethora of questionable changes, but in all honesty we are at the mercy of the thoughts and opinions of the company and GENERAL player base (BAD PLAYERS).

[magic widget]

Ofc people misused them, how dare I have faith in a gamer community?
In all seriousness, I’m just looking for a way for devs to specifically look at well-received ideas without having to look at comments or text walls of argument. If you have a better way to approach this, I’d love to hear it! Also, I don’t think people could misuse just checkmarks and x’s , but I could be wrong.

[dense agate]

Original Inspired from @/porgearello

Pike: rpm nerf, give back some damage to keep stopping power at range.

Model: Damage nerf to 108/124, it should not be allowed to two shot a medium 9m away, I'd argue it shouldn't 2 shot at all without a quick melee.

People seem against this model change but think of it this way, the revolver is also a high skill weapon but always leaves the enemy (if you hit full body shots) at just a sliver of HP for one more bullet or a quick melee, however you're insanely rewarded for headshots to compensate, the model you need less accuracy and for so much stopping power that other weapons don't have, asking embark to buff other weapons on medium in reliable ways isnt good enough and if they want slower ttk, the only way is to nerf the model to be just under so it stays high skill but requires a little more effort anyway.

Deagle: accuracy nerf at further range OR drop the crit to 1.5x. The damage potential with the deagles is unbelieveable with 2x crit.

FCAR: range buff, 1 extra dmg, 1 less bullet

AKM: 36 bullets back

These Rifle changes promote a more healthier niche between the two weapons. AKM having dps so close to the fcar is silly not a big enough change to mess with ttk values too drastically afaik but to put the weapons in better spots.

XP: damage revert to 18, nerf range. I don't have to explain this one, XP is just embarrassing right now and we needed the nerf range to begin with.

Sword: Make Thrusts not continuously do 140 to each target. Example: You sword thrust and hit 3 targets, it should do reduced damage to every target AFTER the first target hit. Also slight increase to delay between sword thrusts, too spammable.

Dagger: Either give 100 Damage on the wind up hit if you miss a backstab or decrease the time it takes to wind up the backstab. Additional Quality of Life would be being able to run with dagger wound up. If the dagger gets a change it should probably be only 1 or MAYBE 2 of these. But honestly even if it got all 3 it wouldn't be meta lol.

Charge and slam: nerf overall dmg OR increase cooldown, being able to use a high damage ability multiple times a fight can feel a little ridiculous at times but I know it is not insanely oppressive.

We are very close to a healthier meta.

My own thoughts: Please do something about defibs. It's gotten to the point where medium is a constant must-have in any rank. Understanding that choosing to play without medium is the difference but if you play medium WITHOUT defib its seen as an active form of griefing. One Idea I saw was Shared Cooldowns very point blank understandable, no explaination needed. Result: You will still have multiple mediums on teams but now other mediums will feel safer NOT choosing defib 100% of the time. If it only has one use on the team at a time for a team cooldown on the defib, the gadget could be relocated to one player and that player could now fully commit to support while other mediums can hold more utility.

And PLEASE do not do any unnecessary recoil nerfs! They only ruin the gun for the lower average/average of the playerbase, it will remain a problem elsewhere!

Please keep nerfs creative, changing specific numbers isn't all the weapon needs to be balanced.

[tulip steppe]

Since we’re nerfing everything now, why don’t ya’ll nerf the last remaining good weapons because “balancing” 🙂

Nerf M11
Nerf Deagles
Nerf all medium ARs
Nerf model
Nerf V9s
Nerf Charge n Slam
Nerf M60, Lewis and SA1216.
Nerf stun gun, invis and dash

Nerfing all these should “balance” the game. The pike is already in a good spot.

[vagrant plover]

SBMM from Casual modes needs to be removed.

Seriously I am sick of getting queued up against a double Emerald 1 basement dweller that I have absolutely no chance of fighting over just because the game thinks it matches my "skill" and then removing all the fun out of the game. I work a job, I have a mid set-up and I am trying to get better but I can't when I keep getting stomped over, falling into gamer rage just because of a stupid game.
I want to enjoy a game, having fun at it not get curb stomped by basement dwellers that I have absolutely no chance of competing against since I dont have the time and skill to put into this game like they do.

My friend who has been playing for a month now and is worse than me has way more chill lobbies where people don't even play meta crap, just people around his "skill" which he still gets stomped by since well he's not really good.

Keep fucking sbmm just to ranked. Please make world tour, quick cash and other casual modes just random match ups, if someone Solo Qs put them into a lobby full of other solo Qers.

Or atleast introduce a mode or turn quick cash into a random lobbies, just a mode where I can just play my fun loadouts even with my friends, just to have fun and not compete for the imiginary finals trophy like how every damn lobby is for me right now, I wanna be able to enjoy this game again.

[fading trail]

Kind of agree with the gambling wheel, accidently spend multi bucks on a few things with no built in refund option, and almost everything is just a reskin

[dusky apex]

server optimisation please i shoot first but still die first then my bullet noregs...

[manic oak]

are they ever going to nerf this model meta. im so sick of this braindead gameplay surrounding this model metal. its the most boring thing ive ever playd.

[sour hinge]

If they decide to make another wheel spin event, they should do what CODM did with the "lucky draws"

Every item from the spin has a set % chance with an additional set % of getting dupes.

As we go through the items, they remove the % for that item while slightly raising the % of the other items, but increasing the % for dupes as well which is slightly higher than the other items.

The other idea is to add a "coupon" items in each corner of the wheel, this has a REALLY low chance to get it when we have hardly anything from the spin, but as we get items and the % is removed, the "coupon" item % will raise with the dupe %

These coupons we can exchange in another menu for anything we want in the wheel spin.

Likewise, when we redeem, that item is removed from the wheel, along with it's %

They could also tell us the % chance of each item when they show the "information tab" about the event, as we get the item, it refreshes the % shown for the remaining items

[haughty totem]

Where are the patch notes? Why is there no balance changes. We’ve had model meta for like 70-80 days at this point.

[upper citrus]

you arent getting matched with people who will sweep your lobby because of sbmm. there is almost no sbmm in casual modes, as stated by devs. there needs to be more. You are getting matched with people who will sweep your lobbies because there is almost no sbmm

[regal steeple]

Could we maybe push the Halloween skins in the shop until Friday? Most people I'd imagine get paid on Fridays.

[waxen grove]

Exactly. There are a lot of unused weapons that need to be buffed. If i had season 2 lewis i would have zero problem with prime pike or model.

[runic gull]

Bring something winter themed for the new season. The clothes are not nice at all. They are all very standard and genderless.

[deep sierra]

Buff fcar. Just give it season 1 stats and keep the recoil nerf.

[fading pelican]

Yo, Embark. I ain't kidding when I say the game is in its worst state. Been playing since Season 1 but it wasn't this bad. I don't know if you guys are busy with Arc Raiders but you gotta check on this game too.
I can't believe how bad the games are - cheaters, bad events, time-sink contracts, bad balancing. What is going on over there. Genuine question.
I wouldn't mind all the other problems (balancing, etc) if there was at least less cheaters...

[humble phoenix]

its made like this so you would be forced into spending money

[iron bough]

Glad you like it, another 4593 matches with trash teammates coming in!

[acoustic warren]

Is there any real point to using any other class than Medium?

[robust patio]

agreed

[radiant moat]

right now, you are at a disadvantage if you are not using M + defib + model

[obtuse locust]

Embark why did u guys remove green barrel Cashout push it wasnt breaking the game ?

[sand hazel]

just getting a store update and not fixing the audio bugs is crazy

[lilac coral]

This how they think there keeping the game alive. Unfortunately you have to wait until the end of the season for any real problems to be fixed..

[upper citrus]

every other update is just a store update with the exception of 4.5. this has been their schedule for months idk why people are still surprised

[valid cradle]

Another week of these horrendous bugs not being addressed is actually insane. Are these devs even trying anymore???? The state of this game is actually laughable…

[livid spruce]

In all honesty it kind of just baffles me that the wheel is even a thing after you said you would like to reduce FOMO from the game.
The wheel itself is not an issue, honestly, if it wasn't time limited.

Time limits of any kind, unless we are guaranteed that they'll come back every year for certain holidays, shouldn't be in the game at all and I'm tired of people pretending it isn't an issue.

EDIT for habibi below me:
You're missing the point. It's time limited. If you are afraid on missing out on the items, you have to pay it. THAT'S THE ISSUE.
If it wasn't time limited but you could still buy the items because you don't want to wait, it wouldn't have been an issue.

[leaden thicket]

Yk you can buy the rewards right? You don't have to miss out on anything 😂

[paper rose]

Separate the volume of June and Scotty and the map's announcer, I would love to try playing only with the map's announcer

[acoustic dawn]

Since it has been said that Halloween items may partially or fully return in the future, I think that those of us who were here for this Halloween, deserve to get some multibucks back if we get the same items in the future

[deep sierra]

Buff fcar please

[quick coyote]

I think the black smoke shadow behind the hoodie jacket should be addable to any jacket, and y'all can see it separately under aura lul

[glass pendant]

Hello guys

[rocky vessel]

Quick melee is very inconsistent. Sometimes I am very close to an opponent that is centered in my screen and yet no hit is registered. Sometimes, it is the other way around where it does not make sense how I got the hit.

[harsh torrent]

hit reg is shit

[carmine orbit]

Embark, why do you hate me so bad? I just want to enjoy your cool game. These matchmaking selections are consistently disappointing.

[polar blaze]

Please revert sword changes 😭🙏

[quick coyote]

Remove Scotty/June and add these guys in Season 5

[red arch]

they’re in game, you just can’t hear them that well because they’re for the “spectators”

[turbid spade]

When will be able to see ping in numbers

[paper rose]

It's either that or being silver/gold/plat and being matched with and against emerald 1s, I'm tired of it lol

and yeah I would love to hear the spectators' announcer better, that's why separating the volume of S&J and him would be awesome, please make it happen

[harsh hinge]

XP-54 is not viable in ranked. Needs like +1-2 damage

[keen shoal]

Rather than giving tickets when completing the dailies you could have given them with contracts that would have actually made me do the contracts that would have made sense Really took the L embark this time although love the cosmetics , maps

[granite vector]

fsr 3, pls

[woven compass]

I grinded to Em1 and have no idea what I'm in for. I think it's time I take a break from the game, gl hf guys!

[wise rain]

On top of being forced to enable crossplay on ranked due to long q times I had a lovely lobby lineup of stupid matchmaking
every other team was about 25k - 32k Wider range than I'm used to and im still at 21k
my teammate was also 21k which was... f i n e but what killed me was my SILVER 12K CONSOLE PLAYER
like youre at double handicap in a 25-32k lobby with both console and a 13k difference. Now i wont say we wouldve won with someone else and i dont blame the player at all. I blame matchmaking and forcing me to play crossplay as having it off today made my q times skyrocket to 20 minutes without a match.

[plush fjord]

💀
yeah ur so right. the zipline is so superior and so much faster than the grappling hook, and it cant turn around angles either and it also can be destroyed by ur opponents but who cares abt that, we just hate talking abt med today.

the evas dash is SO stupid, it totally cant save u from times where u were about to die and also the sword lunge ability with the evas dash is totally not broken and u only travel a kiss distance with it ryt?

also lights are totally not fast even with their utility and meds have been described as the effing game devs as the "mobile" class themselves, but why should we care what the devs say, were just gonna hate on meds only bcz we cant tolerate it when they heal their teammates even tho their main role in the entire effing game is to be a medic and support class.

oh and i forgot lights dont have a two shot sniper in their loadout, their m11 is garbage in all ranges, and the xp54 hits ppl like a marshmellow, sword is a three hit kill coupled with a thing that makes u invisible, whereas akm kills ppl in one second 🙀 . thats so SCARY

Like wtf. the skill issue here is insane. calling a whole class op just cuz u cant use ur movement abilities as a light or destruction abilities as a heavy is not a vaild reason to call a whole class op.

BTW if this is the case then reyna in valorant is op becz she has one of the highest pick rates. sledge of r6s is op cuz i saw him in 5 matches straight. the tank class is op if i see most players use it in a match. if u see a lot of ppl taking man utd in fc24 then its op OH NO.

ppl use med class alot cuz it brings teamwork into the game. and thats while heavies are getting alot of things nerfed and community's hating it (i find most nerfs alr ig) and lights add literally almost no teamplay value in a game that requires teamwork.

small guy my ass im a xp54 main myself. idk why i wasted so much time writing all this bro is not even gonna understand

[modest lotus]

yeah not reading any of that. 👍

[glass pendant]

I have a problem (tfge0003) still since 3 months and I removed all skins but it didn't work

[proven crown]

If you ever do a spin the wheel type thing again, I recommend that some of the blank spaces (VRs) should become a function to reduce the size of the wheel and # of available potentials. Because after 10 spins it just becomes too frustrating

[sudden tangle]

didnt even link PATCH NOTES because there ARE NO PATCH NOTES.

CANT WAIT FOR THIS CASUAL FEST SEASON TO END.

[worn sigil]

In order to improve the wheel;

• increase dailies back to 5 so we all get 28 more spins
• add a special ticket via a challenge (1 per week) for a guaranteed item)
  That way everyone already gets an extra 30 tickets!
  (Said this in the wheel section too)
  🎃🍿

[unreal fossil]

Balance/performance updates have been coming out every two weeks, so next week probably.

I hope they shadow fixed the weapons audio bugs though... Very annoying.

[hasty rune]

game is perfect but remove kyoto everything about is horrible

[livid basin]

revert sword nerf, it was never that good or anywhere near meta, now it just sucks @neon burrow s3 was better than it is right now @woven compass a coordinated light team will lose to a coordinated medium team of the same skill most of the time

[neon burrow]

Do not revert the damn sword to any other than than season 3

It did not need to get buffed in the first place

[woven compass]

What people don't understand with balancing is that you are analyzing it from solo-play perspective.
If I were to command 3 lights with military-grade commands, and they obey exactly how it should be executed, then other teams would stand no chance, except if the opponents are very good at cooperating as well, which would make the fight competitive at most.
Playing 3 meds or anything of that sort means that you don't have to care too much about careful execution of a coordinated plan.
Devs have to take this into account, so they can't buff lights too much.

@livid basin note that I said military-grade execution: which means they are on a professional level, taking into account every counter-measure and keeping them in reserve slots for the next round. 3 lights vs 3 meds inequality can only be proven in a professional tournament, so your statement is completely false.

[verbal prawn]

Wish there was a feature to turn off/disable chat msgs so I can lock in and focus on the game

[rocky vessel]

I am also here since Season 1 and I agree on everything you just said. The bad balancing and the time-sink contracts are the worst part for me. The challenges where I had to eliminate (not just hit) 50 enemies from 50m away were a pain to complete and I had no compensation after they reduced it to 35m for 25 enemies. Also, the cashout interrupt challenges that do not count enemies that let go of the steal before getting eliminated were a pain to complete.

[quick coyote]

3 min que time for ranked is crazy work

[rose basin]

buff fcar by 1 damage

[low epoch]

We are seeded 7th and making 4th place is 167 RS. How is that fair, we made it to second round. So we are secured 4th atleast. We are performing higher then our seed no awards.

[smoky sluice]

emerald rewards when?

[stray plume]

At least ur not getting 18 min lol

[worn sigil]

Even as a light main, make sure exploits like the dash sword one NEVER come back!

[lament talon]

Arcade gamemode thats cashout but with 3 or 4 cashouts on a massive map one day

Something insane like br idk

[deep summit]

• Ranked in high elo is everyone avoids your team, so you have** no chance to get first** cause other team gets more kills, they double and you're out

YAYYY SO FUN GAMEPLAY

reply to sumeragi: so you want me to leave my cash so another team steals it cause they realise all teams are on one, stoopid

[quick coyote]

IM DOWN 3680 IN A WEEK!!! WTF HAPPENED, WHY HAS MY MATCHMAKING BEEN SO SHIT WHY DO I GET PEOPLE WHO CANT PLAY RANKED BECAUSE THEY EITHER QUIT OR THEYRE WIFIS SHIT!!!! BRO WHAT AM I DOING WRONG YALL GIVE ME BRONZE TEAMMATES IN A RANKED MATCH WHEN I WAS GOLD 1 ABOUT TO BE PLAT, THERE WERE PLATS AND MY TEAMMATES WERE GOLD DUDE LIKE THIS ISNT FUN ANYMORE SEASON 2 WAS PERFECT THE FORMAT WAS PERFECT AND NOW NO BODEY WANTS 2 PLAY

[delicate basin]

Charge N slam is completely silent sometimes for others

[inland obsidian]

where the lab coat scientist fit at? Im trynna Bill Nye the science guy

[idle flax]

Hey Embark, I have said this before on other platforms and I’ll say it again here. I would rather have all these in the item shop like all other cosmetics that I can get any time in the future than have it be rng gambling type of mechanic. I don’t mind spending money to support the game as I already have in the past 4 seasons, I will still call out bad practices in game no matter how much I like Embark. All the previous events were simple and fine, do the challenges during LTM and get the rewards. Unless every player gets all 20 rewards then it is predatory by artificially stopping players from getting specific rewards and basically enticing them to spend money to get the bonus reward for getting all 20 rewards. I was not calling it predatory etc before cuz I trusted embark and thought you'd increase chances of getting the remaining items towards the end of the event but since majority of people didn’t get all rewards by playing then it was by definition predatory rng gambling etc. Genuinely disappointed by your actions in this event.

[hushed flicker]

Fix matchmaking pls

[jagged cedar]

4 weeks until the season ends and we still have no idea what we're grinding Emerald for.

Ranked should also count towards World tour progress. Having to grind the same game mode twice is incredibly draining and fucks you if you don't have a gazillion hours to burn

[neon burrow]

Then rotate to the fights..?

[dusty igloo]

Kept 18 spins until today hoping for some change to the wheel, I had 5 items left and 18 spins and only got two items, now I need to spend 1300 multibucks

[glad trout]

could we get an option to convert VRs to multibucks or buy the cheap cosmetics with VRs?
for example: 2000VRs for 25multibucks or a cosmetic that costs 100multibucks or less?
that would delete the problem with ppl having useless VRs after they got all equipment.
thanks!

[silent fog]

yeah these cash out rules fucking suck this season.
104 days to "experiment" in WT just to change the rules once or twice and call it a day lol

[weary drum]

Just wanted to join others in expressing my disappointment with the gambling wheel situation.

I got 19 out of 20 items seven days ago, and my VRs have been at 5000/5000 ever since. I've been grinding daily to earn those coupons, only to trade them in for 450 useless VRs for the past week straight. It's honestly soul-crushing.

I don't mind spending money on the game—especially since Embark has been offering really solid cosmetics at a fraction of what similar items cost in other games. But I'm not going to feel good about spending 400 multibucks just to get that last item and finish the set.

[unborn flicker]

I am missing the bat on the wheel and now i have to but it with multibucks 😦 It would be a good addition if you make epic or legendary items on the wheel purchasable for 5000 vr or something.

[gaunt coyote]

I love how this game doesn't help casuals in any way. Why don't you guys stay true to your original vision of this game? Why do you cater to a meta? What happened to making every gun feel special? What happened to every play style that felt unique? You guys had a fun and strong first season but now it's trash. Everyone runs the same stuff. Because everything else can't compete. What's the point of having the weapons in the first place? You guys really need to make a decision to really make this game fun for EVERYONE. Not just the sweat lords. That includes all the weapons and all the gadgets. I want to use them all. Not just meta. Just make this game fun again and stop going down this competitive rabbit hole. More game modes for 5 or more players. More fun weapons. C'mon Embark . You have my money, just so something positive with it.

[fervent phoenix]

Buff hit registration

[unreal fossil]

That's a dishonest take at best. Like forgetting every good thing a person has done, just because that person has made one upsetting mistake.

[covert yacht]

Great system where you can see ranks i want it gone like i dont get it people just greef you because you are high rank and dont care about themself i hate the seeding mechanic like why do i win and entire tournament and win 500 and when im seeded 6 and lose the first one i loose 700 make it make sence also how many cheaters can there be constantly just aimbotting and they never get banned ive seen ruby players hard cheating and just nothing still on the leaderboards and just going rampart

[fleet socket]

Please drop a suit of armor in the store, y'all deserve my money

[lilac drift]

i'm pretty sure embark completely ignores this channel and this is gonna go into the void but fuck it

• wheel event is cool in concept but poorly executed this time around, it feels really bad that players log in EVERY DAY and max out their tickets just to be missing 6 items from getting dupes
• ranked needs stronger protections for teams who have people leave the match early considering how harsh the losses are for losing in the first round, there's absolutely no reason someone should lose a full rank worth of RP because a teammate left / had their internet cut out etc
• the game overall would benefit from better matchmaking, i would absolutely take longer queues to get an even game as opposed to getting a 1 minute queue that throws me into a fuckfest where the entire enemy team is emeralds and my team are first timers (this happens in every mode, i haven't gotten past gold in WT or ranked this season)
• speaking of which why doesn't world tour just throw emerald players into their own matchmaking pool once they hit emerald? there's no reason bronzes should have to fight emerald players because world tour lacks any badge matchmaking or SBMM. obviously this won't work immediately at the start of a season but it should be considered for like, a few weeks to a month into the season
• so i don't know what data you guys have on the sword at embark but holy fuck how has this not been addressed in any way, there is absolutely no reason a light player should be able to lunge, dash and lunge again for a completely free kill, and the lunge itself has no reason to deal 140 damage even if it barely hits you. easiest fixes in my mind are to make the swipe and lunge deal the same amount of damage (90) or to disallow lunge while dashing. also, disable the sword while you fix this please i don't want to see it in any more of my games

[tidal orchid]

''Interrupt opponents who are stealing your team's cashout or interfering with your team's decryption at the terminal, 10 times''
I've had this one since the start of the season and still got 0/10. Must be bugged and what is this mission? Why not make it teambased like the ''steal a cashout'' one?

[shell raven]

add skins for sights i want a bright red reflex for my bright red revolver

[tardy mirage]

What will the emerald rewards be for world tour this season? Same as last? Please be a tad more direct with what the rewards will be. I could be grinding for nothing

[cinder nova]

probably weapon skins

[winged perch]

The other day I suggested there should be another use for VRs. And I think I found a decent one:

what if we used VRs to buy levels on the battle pass?

[unborn garnet]

I would hope its something good. My prediction this season has been the V9S, Model and Sledge

[strong vessel]

The halloween event was a dissapointment. Gameplay was unchanged, casual players eventually got the spooky maps after having to beg for them. The wheel is boring and the outcomes for the players have too much variance even if you assume everyone can afford to play the game every day for 2 weeks.

[swift crater]

could u make it so when ur reporting somone near the end of the game it doest kick u out of the report every time a new scene is loaded like it kicks u out of it like 5 times during the difrent loading points at the end of the game making writing your report almost imposable before u get sent back to the lobby

[fringe schooner]

It's way past fucking time to split the goddamn matchmaking pools between console and pc. Turning crossplay off splits xbox and ps so that's not a solution

[woven compass]

There are some premium items in the wheel that you wouldn't be able to acquire without paying any money. So it makes sense, though you could have more tickets (like 5 instead of 3) per day to make it easier. So far I got all the items I wanted, without paying a cent.

[lapis oriole]

Can we get the left one or a proper recolor? (Or collab 🥺)

[quick coyote]

STOP MATCHMAKING ME IN TEAMS WITH UNRANKED AND BRONZE AND THEM MAKE ME FIGHT DIAMOND/EMERALD!!!!! im a platinum

if i had completed the season pass and had all the haloween stuf i wouldnt even been playing this till season 5 anymore.

[safe cargo]

Joining a ranked game to only have 2 people should void RS loss… ridiculous!!!!

[fading pelican]

I was just about to say. I learned just a moment ago that hitting them while they're stealing the cashout doesn't count! So do we need to eliminate them while they are stealing? or maybe move them away from the cashout (ex. winch claw pull or maybe that smash/slam skill of heavy that can push them away?) This contract is SO RESTRICTIVE! The language is also unclear (esp. because no example or list is given).
I don't understand what the devs were smoking when they made this contract/challenges. It's almost like the devs don't play/playtest their own game, rules, contracts. It's insanely out-of-touch. I really can't believe how crazy bad my recent experience of this game is.

[gray fable]

I used to think the wheel was cool, I now hate it so much. Every item should have had a VR cost not just a handful of them

[inland perch]

The interrupt cashout challange is a god damn nightmare, im still at damn 0, everythign up to this point is done, yet this seems to not count anytime. ohhh it makes me angry every time.
It should be "Kill 10 enemies while they are stealing your cashout" not interrupt. Im interrupting every time, i shoot - they stop stealing - its interrupted.

[rocky vessel]

@fading pelican Yes, we need to eliminate them while they are stealing, otherwise it does not count. This is infuriating! I tried with charge and slam multiple times but it did not count. I tried with high damage weapons such as the revolver to eliminate them quickly to not leave them them to let go of the steal (because otherwise it also does not count). Assists do not count either so if you deal 148 of damage and your ally deals the remaining 2, it also does not count. I did manage to complete all the objectives but it took a lot of time and I am not sure I would do it again if they put another tedious challenge like this one. A game is supposed to be fun and it is just frustrating to always be close but almost never getting to complete the objective.

[zinc palm]

play dagger free interruptions

[remote zealot]

Powerswift needs some raw love

[polar blaze]

Please can we have old sword back
🥺
👉👈

[hasty rune]

CHEATER PARADISE

[ivory dagger]

i didnt play for 2 weeks, i just played a game and I didnt think that the "gun fire sound bug" is still in the game. ITS EVEN WORSE!!! i dont hear people shooting, sometimes yes sometimes no, sounds are completly broken. game is UNPLAYABLE. i will come back when i read news that it got fixed...

[surreal mica]

Can we PLEASE have an option to change our CONTESTANT NUMBER for the Cosmetics. Even if it's a one-time change and costs VR's.

[warped tapir]

Extend and fix halloween wheel. I've played the event almost everyday since launch and still missing 4 cosmetics. I'm at 5000 VR since week 1 of season 4, so all the duplicates I've got (which are a lot) are worth nothing. What was the point of making it so frustrating?

[robust pilot]

ALL I WANTED IS RANKED TERMINAL ATTACK BACK IN THE GAME 😫

[acoustic frost]

Would it be possible to spend spare vr on xp in the future. That would be a fun way to use vr

[fading pelican]

Yeah, that's what I thought it should've been - teammate's eliminates (or "interrupts") should at least count so teamwork is rewarded instead of incentivizing all teammates to kill-steal. I remember some old contracts they had where I was incentivize to throw 'nades (flame, gas) at my teammates so I can heal them for a contract. I don't think the Embark devs understand incentive systems and how human behavior works.
I think I said here before I would've been fine if they just said something like "Play 25 games". After all, isn't the point to make us play the game and maybe stay longer? If they said play 25 (or even 50) rounds of World Tour or Ranked, I would've been happy with it! Just don't limit how we play coz it's where the fun is. Plus, those modes require teamwork and some play roles (such as healer/defib) and those roles may not be fit to fulfill those contracts. There's also the issue of whether players can reliably count on their time spent being productive (which is more likely if it's a Play x amount of games rather than do x, which is a very specific way of playstyle with luck involved). I just don't understand the Embark devs anymore. I keep thinking maybe they're just busy with Arc Raiders but I'm not sure it's a good excuse...
I just can't look at Embark devs the same way again. The problems keep piling up. With cheaters aplenty, they should at least ease up on events (ex. avoid too much FOMO tactics) and contracts/challenges (just say play x amount of games or something easy because the devs can't even ensure there are no cheaters). I've never talked this much on Discord before but I really cared for The Finals (the only game I play on Steam currently). This is so heart-breaking ngl.

[modern tulip]

Agreed

[tepid summit]

gotta love how my friend that hates all the halloween wheel stuff has gotten it more than 2 days ago

[worn sigil]

That would be very useful, I didn't even think about using it that way

[thick sorrel]

The Finals Models Patch Notes 4.5.0 4.6.0 4.7.0 4.8.0

We couldn't balance 3 Classes and their Weapons. So we went this Season for MMM - Medium Model Meta.

~~Pike

• Decreased fire rate from 200 RPM to 199 RPM
  Dev Note: We suspect it may still be too effective, so we'll adjust in Season 5 maybe.~~

Model 1887

• Sniper Scope added
• ACOG (4x) added
  Dev Note: We nudge the effective range, so... deal with it.
  **Real Fix: 2-Shots Lights and 3-Shots Heavys, but not above 10m! - e.g. 117 Dmg+more Spread **

Akimbo Deagles

• Reworked: Shoots now explosive Rounds
  Dev Note: The midrange accuracy was way less oppressive than intended, so we added AoE to improve it.

Dual Blades

• Decreased blades from 2 to 1
  Dev Note: There's only one Blade. There's only ever gonna be one Blade.

MGL32

• Reworked: Grenades need to bounces 3 times before detonation
  Dev Note: It's so bad, I can't even make fun of it. Anyone?

Defibrillator

• Increase Charge from 1 to Two and a Half😩
  Dev Note: Defibrillated Medium's can instantly use their own Defibrillator. Obviously it's not Alan enough.

~~Healbeam

• Dogwalking plays the Theme from Ghostbusters
  Dev Note: What is Dead May Never Die~~

Charge & Slam

• Renamed to Flash & Hulk
  Dev Note: We thought the lightning-fast sprint activation and the damage level of Hulk Smash expressed it much better!

Spear

• Spinning it plays the Sound Helicopter Helicopter
  Dev Note: This makes your enemies laugh even more.

[keen lily]

solo queue ranked is impossible to climb after ~35k, add some kind of bonus for playing solo please. I was 39,7k at best, still being put into the same lobbies at high plat as top ruby players is wild, also sometimes with the fucking low golds - matchmaking is almost nonexistent

[pliant glade]

You're telling me to just do better when i'm worth 5 times one of my teammates, and am topping everybody in score in the lobby by at least 2x. i have 20 kills and my teammates have only 4 combined. Just imagine how much better it would've been if they actually had brains. You're such a bad bait

[copper canopy]

yes i am, 20 kills for a plat lobby is nothing

[blissful bridge]

CUSTOM LOBBIES AND A MAP EDITOR !!

[stoic drift]

M L L just tore us a new one in the final round of a tournament, remember guys according to every Light main in this server he's useless and needs to be buffed

[formal sphinx]

What about a return of some fixed gun / class game modes like the Wild West theme sometime back? A full round of heavies blasting away with akimbos would be fun.

[hasty rune]

CHEATER PARADISE, DON’T PLAY RANKED YOU WILL 80% GO UP AGAINST SCUMMY CHEATERS

[carmine warren]

I have friends who literally don't play this game because there isn't a way for us to 1v1 in private matches. Please add back solo bank it to private matches

[lilac grail]

Delete low grav from the game. Event is TRASH

[weary wasp]

I miss how this game used to be. It used to respect your time with fun quirky events that you didn't have to pour all your hours (or real money) into to fully unlock everything. But sponsorships are such a long, drawn out grind, and the Halloween wheel made my eyes roll so far back I could see my brain cells deteriorating. Compared to the likes of the Bunny Bash, Bank Heist, and Cowboy events of the past, this really does feel like a huge downgrade to a soulless corporate shadow of what these events used to be. Please stop. This used to be a game where I had no problem with throwing real money at the game for outfits and what not because "You know what, the devs are cool, they deserve it", and I know I'm not the only one. Don't let us down.

[pliant glade]

i've had 30plus rounds before but that's not the average my guy. If we're going off the average, this means you consistently perform at this level and that getting anything less is weird. you get 30-35 kills with only 4 deaths. if you win, with the total of all your rounds you've got about 100 kills for the entire match. let me see 3 screenshots of 3 rounds of you hitting 30-35 kills with 4 deaths, and hell if you got it let me see one match of 90-100 kills cause we're just going off average that means there has to be at least a few games where you've gotten that amount.

[copper canopy]

Obviously

[keen lily]

ranked is trash as fuck, it was never less enjoyable to play than now

[deep sierra]

Buff fcar please. Repost if you agree.

[burnt notch]

You can 1v1 in normal bank it by having ur friend join the lobby WITHOUT being in ur party

[iron bough]

They will let you down, they already have.

[gritty umbra]

this man woke up and chose to speak facts

[sudden spire]

+1

[obtuse wedge]

this luckydraw is so stupid, literally got 6 draws into duplicates and I’m just one away from 20, good bait but I’m not gonna pay🤷

[blissful smelt]

One more time I report that the H flamethrower loadout is ruining the casual gaming. Not sure if Embark buffed the H and the range of the flames, but it feels too bad to shot bullets into the H spritem and dying. Every time you find a H indoor, it's dead.

[unreal fossil]

I figured it's hard to get a proper overview of how players feel about the game through continuous messages in this channel, Reddit topics, or raw data gathered from the game (on Embark side).

I'm curious to get a more synthetic glimpse at what people think, so I built a Google Forms: https://forms.gle/EAMdthHyB2bYgWRFA

The topics are as follows:

• Class/team comp balance
• Simple class per class review of specs, weapons and gadgets
• New cashout rules and respawn logic
• Maps

I didn't want to make it too complicated or deep, but it should give us some insight on what the community thinks.

I've enabled access to the results for any participant. So any of you should be able to see/use/share them.

[silent fog]

Who is paying you to not properly nerf the model or charge n slam? Because atp I can't think of another reason why you'd let these things plague your game for this long

[brisk stump]

emerald rewards for this season?

[autumn warren]

Likely because those abilities have stayed the same since season 1. Those weapons and abilities function like they want all the other weapons to function. It’s not their damage that is the problem. It’s how perfect they are vs the clunkier other weapons. The shotgun is the best feeling gun in the game IMO, and by them not nerfing it, it shows me that they want to make all the other guns just as good

[gloomy cave]

I mean... 130 damage immediately if someone is front of you for pushing 1 button is kinda crazy man let's be honest. Also it goes through walls and barricades (which it should) then has a chance to immediately carry and hit someone again... I don't mind anything but the damage man.

[unborn garnet]

I hope to see some good Season 5 weapons!
Just some gun suggestions
I'd love to see

• Kriss Vector (L)
• AS Val (M)
• M1 Garand (M)
• PP-19 (M or L)
• M4 Carbine (M)
• M16 (M)
• UMP-45 (L)
• Spas-12 (H)
• Heavy Sniper (H)
• F2000 (M)
• AR-15 (M)
• AUG Battle rifle (H)

Reworked Recon returning would be cool. Maybe a deployable item that scans an area of 25-50m for like 6 charges, every 15 seconds?

Love to see a 2x sight attachment to some weapons.

Amethyst level 10 skin (Fill level 9 for something cool too)

Molotov skin has been highly demanded

[hollow badger]

emerald skins should be available to see at the start of a season so players have incentive to play the game

[acoustic warren]

I think that this google poll was very very interesting and i feel like if we want to see some change we need a LOT more ppl voting on this so Embark can get info on what we want

[trail nymph]

this game's backfill system is so broken sometimes i get no teammates entire matches

[digital sinew]

a message for the DEVS, and I'm 100% sure u don't care anymore
nexon killed dirty bomb and now its killing the finals
tbh this the last season for me, its the last chance guys im giving myself to not get attached to this game
u have a great game, we need more modes more maps
stop making skins ffs
i know its how u earn money, but keep the game interesting for us, fix the matchmaking, the cheaters, the balance etc...
then u gain more players, then u make more money
Smite, dirty bomb, paladins and a lot more of multiplayer games are dying because of greedy companies
my English is not my mother language so i cant express my thoughts truly
it just sad for me to witness the game i love turn into some code in an empty server

[twilit sand]

honestly going to quit the game. Performance just gets worse and worse each week.

[raw blaze]

I would actually like. Go fucking insnae if I saw some of these. UMP, AS Val, Kriss Vector, PP-19, M1 Garand. gaaaaadddd DAAAYYYUM! Embark I really just want some more shit to shoot people with lmao

[crisp heart]

add more maps set in the future, like kyoto 2100

[earnest sierra]

please add a redot sight for the 93r, this weapon doesn't need any balance or changes to it's stats, just the sight will help this weapon and make it viable

[unreal fossil]

I figured it's hard to get a proper overview of how players feel about the game through continuous messages in this channel, Reddit topics, or raw data gathered from the game (on Embark side).

I'm curious to get a more synthetic glimpse at what people think, so I built a Google Forms: https://forms.gle/EAMdthHyB2bYgWRFA

The topics are as follows:

• Class/team comp balance
• Simple class per class review of specs, weapons and gadgets
• New cashout rules and respawn logic
• Maps

I didn't want to make it too complicated or deep, but it should give us some insight on what the community thinks.

I've enabled access to the results for any participant. So any of you should be able to see/use/share them.

@acoustic warren thank you !

[civic orchid]

We need the scopes to match the gun skins fr

[swift crater]

Thermal Vision Rework: players and equipment needs to be color coded, smokes and gas need a more visible outline aswell as a smoky screen effect around the edges of ur screen when ur in it, allso players in smoke should be color coded but more saturated so u know there in the smoke, allso lower the transparency of smoke and have gas be the same but tinted green but ofc have player color over render this colored transparency of the gas and smoke

[thorn kelp]

I vouch for this

@copper garden No

[neon burrow]

Give the fatties a tommy gun that lines up in-between the power of deagles and lewis gun

[strong vessel]

Sure, but lets say i want to fill out the wheel (because there is a locked cosmetic set gated behind the full completion). How much should i have to pay for it? Statistically speaking the average player would have to pay around 500MB (by my calculations).

But just looking at the population level statistics is not very useful, because thats not how it plays out in reality. If population-wise, everyone pays 500MB, and some people get all the rewards for free (or pay less than 500 MB), then there must exist people which would have to pay more than 500 to complete theirs. In a way, unlucky players are effectively subsidizing the lucky ones, which just feels strange to me.

This sistem can surely be improved. Lets say that you get 1 spin every day (from your dailies), but spins guarantee items (i.e. no duplicates). After 2 weeks, everyone would have 14 items*, and there would be no days where you feel like shit for spinning into duplicates again. At the end, you have the choice of buying any individual item for e.g. 100 MB. Now everyone has the same choice to make, whether to buy just one or two items that they want from the wheel, or all of them to claim the bonus (if there is one).

[copper garden]

useless give use 10-50 multibucks for every 5000k vrs

[fast flare]

+1

[spark lynx]

i also onlu got one left

[celest aurora]

Let lights do front or backflips midair. They're airborne a LOT and doing a sick trick before landing to deliver devilish double barrels sounds fun

[raw blaze]

Allow us to use Extended Barrels on some weapons but decrease the Fire Rate or Ammo of them!

THE SNIPER is the reason I would like this because imagine we only get around 3 shots but there is no bullet drop (if barrels aren't added, the sniper needs a buff. I haven't seen someone use this damn gun since it's nerf, literally not a single god damn time). Or the Model's current variant stays the same but you can shorten the barrel to decrease the range and increase the headshot multiplier. Just more things to adjust the playstyle of pre-existing weapons instead of adding more because then we COULD result in the issue of there being too many weapons to choose from and eventually having weapons just being copies of each other with different stats. Would also be nice to have more sights, a HOLO on an AKM or a 2X on the FCAR. Maybe a option to include one attachment at a time where you aren't allowed to use a sight on the FCAR but you could have a Foregrip to decrease the recoil jump. Idk this is just a bunch of things that are possibilities to make the weapons more interesting. Also yall REALLY need to buff some weapons. The Medium's swords are a joke at this point :(

[ornate sage]

We need 20 more contestant slots or a save loadout feature please.

[keen lily]

we need devs to reach the plat rank in solo queue ranked to see how miserable this is

[dark niche]

Xbox and Ps5 crossplay only, if your like his file a report / suggestion so they listen, i feel like this channel is pointless, this is for console only players i dont want any pc players say turn off crossplay cuz it doesnt work its pointless.

[native fulcrum]

Wanted to share some sponsorship ideas i was thinking about
first of all, not a native, might sound silly

1. Make people get bonuses by sponsors for having their logos on, for using their emotes and even for going full sponsorship squad
   JUST IMAGINE
   3 Lights going full Ospuze, working in team and simultaneously drinking energy drinks after every team wipe and maybe even getting full team emotes
   Maybe 2 heavies and a medium going with Holtow with appropriate emotes

and ofc we'll need much more emotes and skins for that

2. ADD OSPUZE I LOVE ENERGY DRINKS PLEASE PLAEAASPEA LASEPLAS
   make every team have their style and quests that you'll need to do for getting more sponsorship rewards not just stupid fan farming

3. Maybe add like some notifications from other sponsors when they notice that you've started using their emotes/started playing like they want(easiest way is ofc when you change ur main class) and let player decide to change their sponsor and get an easier start with the next one or to stick with the one they had but get slower sponsorship leveling cause they're not playing appropriately for the sponsor they're currently working with

4. Make people have actual teams counting in each sponsor's leaderboard where you can watch some clips from them(may be really hard to implement)

[daring fossil]

3 weeks with no fixes to the audio, are you fucking kidding me Embark?!

[silent fog]

Why have you nerfed the green gas barrel?

[ivory gull]

Please please please implement some points after losing a round in WT! At least the second round maybe? I feel pretty crushed grinding and trying my best just to end up with a giant zero towards my goal. Even its just one point I'd be thankful. Game has me laying on the ground staring at the ceiling after some of these losses.

[midnight aurora]

powershift changes that are required:

make a vegas variant

make a new map variant (forget what its called)

reroute the one on kyoto its a pain to fight on for both routes

[coarse dew]

please make the fencing hoodie not make you bald 🔥

[robust token]

maker akm 18/19 damage instead of 20

[sudden spire]

This game sucks

[smoky gust]

please add new game modes
i think some 5v5 stuff would do us good

[fading yoke]

When is the defib gonna be finally actually nerfed? It's the sole reason MMM is still the meta and has been since release. Why are you devs so blind to this?

[copper canopy]

and once again, noone will care

[daring musk]

fix spear where if you throw certain things before and directly start trying to hit someone you cant. or the animation doesnt play so the enemy is just losing health.
also fix where if you pick up something directly after throwing (for example) dome shield your character will drop the item that you just picked up. it can ruin the game when youre trying to be quick with the cash box.
sometimes the audio also bugs so you can hear shooting constantly and sometimes the shooting audio becomes very loud so it hurts your ears.
(ALSO please make more spear and revolver animations!)

[misty jasper]

Step 1: Relax
Step 2: Don't solo q

@surreal meadow congrats

[humble violet]

You guys need to fix so much, please nerf the Shotgun

[surreal meadow]

im solo queing to dia & emerald for Ranked & WT

just solo queue & abuse the model, im not even good at the game and im almost to both my goals

[woven hawk]

likin the new upper body. Unique style + green & purple 2 of my fav colors. Comes with a necklace too really noice

[cerulean mason]

Gotta love how many weapons don't even have a single skin that changes any animations, and you guys drop ANOTHER deagle animation bundle? What are you guys smoking? Please start releasing things for ALL the weapons. Are yall fucking malnourished?? I get that you guys wanna drop skins for the guns use but this is getting ridiculous. Deagles have been in the game for less than a season, and already have more skins (and animations) than the double barrel, which has been in the game since launch. Sincerely, a whale that won't be spending money until you release something that isn't for the m11, AK, or deagles.

[daring fossil]

imagine completely breaking the audio and leaving the game in that state for 3+ weeks and not hot-fixing it.

Imagine completely ruining the spawns and leaving the game like that for months after people waited an entire season to play ranked cashout again just to get cashout back in the arguably the worst state ever.

Imagine leaving the model untouched for 11 months while everyone and their dog constantly complains about it (your nerf did fucking nothing)

ONLY IN THE FINALS!

If the audio isn't fixed next week, I'm fucking done. You're such a fucking joke Embark, nobody has faith in you as a dev studio anymore because of things like this. I've spent over $200 on this game, I bought merch, I played the alpha and all 3 betas, we have an inside joke in our discord where people ask me what im playing constantly because they know all I'm ever playing is The Finals. I've defended/advocated for this game and your idiotic choices on numerous occasions and im so done. You're fucking useless. Fix your goddamn game! If you can't keep one game functioning while you develop another, you shouldn't develop another game, nobody gives a shit about Arc Raiders after you made it a toxic PVP extraction shooter anyways.

[severe burrow]

please return the old sword before the buff, the sword is so bad right now 😦

[sonic arrow]

Third person sound is broken, i can no longer hear the enemy team firing at me while i take damage. on the death cam, everything sounds like it fires as fast as the V9S for crying out loud.

[keen heath]

Buff Sword range by half of what was taken

[radiant moat]

the last round in cashout is so unfun, feels like a complete afterthought, the most high-stakes part of the game and its the most underwhelming with the least methods of outplaying :/

[lone hare]

This game blows

[violet matrix]

It's clear that Embark doesn't listen to the community anymore and they are abandoning the game, it's a shame since it's a very good game but now it's boring and repetitive, nobody plays competitive tournaments in South America anymore and they don't even create new game modes to vary and attract a new audience, it has a lot of graphical glitches that make the skins look bad, it's clear that they ignore the finals to give priority to the Arc riders, I've invested money in the game but Embark has disappointed me a lot lately.

[rapid stream]

Finals and arc raiders have 2 separate teams

[unborn garnet]

I'd like to see other ways to spend VRS. I dont think just equipment/sights and limited game modes are a fair usage. I think the community has brought in some good ideas to use VRS in other ways. I've seen

• Exchange X amount of VRS to MultiBucks. (1000 VRS = 10 MB) would be a good place to start. If Embark wants to be stingy about the exchange rate, maybe put a weekly/monthly cap to the amount of MultiBucks like a maximum of 400 a month, 100 a week.
• Low-tier cosmetics having a purchasable price tag of like 800-2400 VRS for small cosmetics. Maybe Epic and Legendary skins can be purchased between 4000-5000 VRS. (If they keep the cap to 5k)
• XP Tokens would be a cool free-to-play addition to players who dont like to pay for cosmetics or something. This doesnt promote P2W methods at all and would be great to see XP tokens in some shape or form. Doesnt need to be bought with VRS but earned through battlepass would be cool. I have about 300 hours of game time, and about 3-7 equipment pieces at level 5/6, 2 equipments at level 7+. Rest of my equipment is between levels 1-4 Doubling the XP gain with equipment would be cool and obsolete equipment items should be double XP no matter what
• VRs for animations for guns would be a better idea than using MB. I think the animation packs for the weapons are sick and make the reloads and inspects cooler, but I dont think putting a pricetag on them is smart. I think it should be free for everybody through VRs
• I saw VRs to battlepass tiers would be cool.
• I think the wheel is a cool concept and crates/cache's are hot topics for video games because they are lethal to promoting P2W tactics but a crate opening pack system with VRS for 1 would be cool. (Example: Rainbow Six Siege has been the only "pack" system where I think its fair and fun to actually open one)
• If XP tokens werent added then maybe exchanging VRS to XP would be a cooler idea. 1 VRS is equal to 1 or 2 xp. So cap of 5k VRS = 5k or 10k XP added to any equipment piece. Would be a better way to level up your guns mastery skins. (Edit: just though of this now. I think you'll be only capped to adding an X amount of XP to equipment. I dont use the riot shield and I dont think it would be fair if I have level 8 riot shield with 3 kills with it with lvl 8 skin, so a cap to the amount of XP you can add from exchanging VRS would be cool. I'd say maybe 30-50k)

[light tinsel]

Can we please get a major xp boost next week???? This season is way to Grindy and I need to play my least favorite game modes just to get quests for xp, please buff the xp for just playing!!!

[dusty igloo]

I believe it to be divine intervention at this stage that medium has had no nerfs in the areas it should, and I am not even relgious. How the fuck is there no nerfs for three of the same thing being ran, e.g. DEFIB, I dont give a shit about anything else but defib at this stage, a single defib is fine but when you have three defibs its insane. And thats been an issue for the past three seasons, how the fuck is defib not nerfed yet for triple on a team and how the fuck does it still have the 0.75 seconds of i-frames even after the change that gives it a statue loading in. Make it so that if multiple defibs are ran, the amount of health that they come back with is so much worse, the cooldown is longer and the person being defibed also has a cooldown added on their defib.

[civic orchid]

Lowkey Team emotes would be fire

[fading yoke]

This x1000. I am sick and fucking tired of getting 3 defibs per every fight. It's even so brainless to use, you can just drop defib on top of enemies with no penalty at all. There's no counterplay, glitch grenades are too slow to make any reactionary plays. Make it so you can shoot the holo so you'd actually have to bring the chess piece to safety and THEN res hands free. I'm so sick of medium having the best of everything toolkit since the release. Light is PLAYABLE but requires an immense amount of aim & gamesense to do almost as good as medium does by basically existing because of defib. The game balance is ran by someone who can't play shooters at any decent level it feels like.

[nocturne magnet]

Agreed, definitely implement a debuff to stacked defibs. Fighting a 3v6 is never fun

[unreal fossil]

I figured it's hard to get a proper overview of how players feel about the game through continuous messages in this channel, Reddit topics, or raw data gathered from the game (on Embark side).

I'm curious to get a more synthetic glimpse at what people think, so I built a Google Forms: https://forms.gle/EAMdthHyB2bYgWRFA

The topics are as follows:

• Class/team comp balance
• Simple class per class review of specs, weapons and gadgets
• New cashout rules and respawn logic
• Maps

I didn't want to make it too complicated or deep, but it should give us some insight on what the community thinks.

I've enabled access to the results for any participant. So any of you should be able to see/use/share them.

We need more participants ! 🙂

[copper garden]

fix the fucking doors and windows and shit and zip lines like it just feels like crap u try to trough window and it just doesnt got couse it tniks ur to fat evem when u play light doors u can just slam open then and u get stuck in them and zipline jump offs are just dogwater make so u its feels noice and like ur going somewhre like dont be scared to add movement to the game just makes the game feel better and i can shit on people like in ape sex than

[vale niche]

Didnt the jumpad used to jump you if you placed it at your feet? I've been having issues this sesason where the pad i place in combat is just bearly clipped under my feet and for it to jump i MUST walk a little backwards then back onto it.

I really wish that it worked the way it did before, espically seeing that some people are now using this mechanic to place their pad at their feet then pick it up to trigger the jump and remove the cooldown.

[deep summit]

Ranked is just full of cheaters, there better be compensation for players that lost to cheaters, cause you guys decide to use easy anti cheat

• Nerf Charge N Slam its like 3 rpgs as a specialization

• Nerf model it shouldn't 3 shot a heavy

[rough storm]

Everyone can do it bro, it's not just the top 10 players, even though they all use it too.

[trail mantle]

Xp animations please

[marsh elm]

Seperate console and pc pool

[quick coyote]

I feel like this season has been a little too grindy. From the battlepass and sponsorships to world tour, I feel like you need to be a non-casual player to be able to get anywhere meaningful. Personally, it feels that there has not been enough high xp missions or battlepass/sponsorship xp has been placed too high. I finally reached Gold 1 in World Tour and then I found out that there are 2 more tiers that were added this seasons that I have to get through if I want to try to get emerald rewards. So now basically, I don't even have a shot before the season ends, as a more casual player.

On a separate note, I feel like both World Tour and Ranked need to be collapsed into one mode, with two different sub-modes available as both Ranked and World Tour. Both should earn you win points with rewards at the end of the season and you can complete Emerald and Ruby in their respective sub-modes. I believe that the Ranked Reward system would be better if you also earned tokens that could be used in a ranked item shop at the end of the season, instead of the weapons. I liked how Overwatch did it where you could earn competitive tokens which you could then buy your ranked rewards. Obviously, there should be different types of currencies depending on your placement, but this way new Ruby players could go back and use Ruby tokens to purchase a ruby skin for a gun that was released in a past season

[ember gulch]

not really an issue but would love a way to increase gun fov like in the store preview for the new deagle animations, having a way to push the guns a bit further forward would be really nice since some weapons feel uncomfortably close to the camera, like the deagles for example

[midnight aurora]

make facepaints apply to the crash test dummy skin

[night glen]

Make 100,000 XP for the Battle Pass NOT A THING

[waxen hornet]

can i suggest a new medium assault rifle. the CAR-15 lesser damage than the fcar and akm but a higher rpm probably to balance it out it can only run irons

[sacred reef]

For the next event with a bunch of items to get don't do another wheel. Now I have to spend 1200 multibucks even though I logged in and played every day because I happened to not get the 2 most expensive things. And if I don't spend the multibucks I miss out on most of the items that are any good.

[unreal fossil]

12 answers is far from meaningful yet, but I'm surprised by these first results on Cashout rules. Team wipe penalty being too low is the only thing standing out for now. Half of the votes are in favor of the S4 changes.

I also did not expect Las Vegas to be the second least appreciated map behind Kyoto.

Link to the form if you want to participate: https://forms.gle/HRfZEVwvJS7Jge2X6

I built this out of curiosity for what players think and feel about the game. Results are accessible to all participants so you too can use the data if you wish.

[violet matrix]

It's clear that Embark doesn't listen to the community anymore and they are abandoning the game, it's a shame since it's a very good game but now it's boring and repetitive, nobody plays competitive tournaments in South America anymore and they don't even create new game modes to vary and attract a new audience, it has a lot of graphical glitches that make the skins look bad, it's clear that they ignore the finals to give priority to the Arc riders, I've invested money in the game but Embark has disappointed me a lot lately.

[terse glacier]

Please in the weapons stats add a body figure that shows the damage of the weapon relative to where you hit them. I don’t know why games always show a bar like a kid reaching his arms out “it does this much damage” I just want to be able to see the stats in game.

[misty jasper]

holy gor yur grammor sux

[formal sphinx]

Please make spawn distance consistent and stop launching teams to the other side of the map when QC is getting close to finishing.

[rough storm]

1. Nerf the freaking Model damage already lads. It's so ridiculous and everyone that's not mained it since S3 is saying this but yall are completely ignoring half the player base. What a disrespect to us all.
2. Why is defib even in this game when Medium isn't a supportive class any longer? Either throw a group-wide CD on the damn thing or nerf the Model.
3. Either remove the plug cash bonus or double the first 2 respawn Cooldowns so it's less about stealing and plugging and more about winning fights. This season is all about Luck over Skills, Stealing over Team fights. And team fights is why i played this game for so long and spent money on it of which i wish i didn't last 2 seasons. All people do these days is either play Model or play light to steal and run as fast as they can and avoid team fights at all cost. Such a lame game this became.

[daring fossil]

"The medium is too effective at killing, so we're going to keep nerfing it's healing ability - Embark probably"

[fierce valve]

Bring back Solo Bank It. Day 7 of asking please please

[scarlet robin]

CAN WE GET SOME KS BUFFS,

[tribal spoke]

Please buff the dual blades DPS and reach. And fix its inconsistencies with shotgun reflects

[keen heath]

Buff both Sword and Dual Dual blades

• Give Sword half its range back feels Im playing with a slightly longer Dagger that has no one shot power at the back
• Dual Blades 3rd auto attack swing takes WAY to long to even hit and when you do it it dose so little damage for the wind up you do
• the Dual blades Deflect feels weak and almost usless I might as well play Riot Sheild since almost none of the Deflected shots ever hit

[autumn mist]

2 days left to the treat hunt event but daily challenges are no longer giving spin tickets? is this normal?

[gusty cosmos]

Sword doesnt need a buff dont be dumb

[viral bear]

This Halloween Event givin' me Once Human flashbacks

[ionic saddle]

The wheel needs to give the last prize tiles instead of gems. I've used 9 tickets and gotten gems nonstop

[twin stream]

im experiencing the same thing

[stoic cypress]

Please nerf Stun Gun. Only thing it supposed to do is to stop contestant's movements, not to stop them from using gadgets 😐

[cursive bough]

stun gun already has been nerfed; it's fine now

[smoky gust]

Stun gun makes melee actually unplayable
No, its not fine

[misty wolf]

How so? Im playing once human and if you talk about the loot box there, you are PAYING for every roll you do unlike here which you get tickets for free items which you can buy the item directly if you didnt get it.
$300 to get everything in 1 gacha box btw in once human, probably more.

[surreal meadow]

https://forms.gle/EAMdthHyB2bYgWRFA
@unreal fossil

maybe add a page 10, thats just a "do you want to add anything anyelse?"
just an open text box so people can voice other opinions / explain themselves to further clarify

@unreal fossil to be honest bro i dont think embark looks at this channel at all, theres a lot of valid and invalid critizism so i wouldnt be suprised if they ignored this channel all together. putting it into a condesnced area as opposed to a public form would maybe isolate to talking points into an easier to read format

[spare canopy]

Embark, why do the bonus BP levels need so much experience? I have a full time job, Embark! There's still like one month left and I don't think I'll have a chance to complete those levels

[unreal fossil]

They already have this channel for that. I did not want it to be too long or complicated. You could go way deeper into each subject but the form would take 50 pages.

I just thought I could maybe add a question regarding future game modes, but again the possibilities are near infinite, so people might as well speak about it here.

[gray fable]

The Wheel sucks. Please never do this again. It was fun at first but having to spend multibucks to finish an event that I completed 100% of the daylies for is awful design. I refuse to pay money to an event like this that was CLEARLY designed to force people into spending multibucks to 100% and get the set. I will no longer buy store cosmetics as a result of this. I used to love the devs for the awesome season passes and the free event that were super cool. This one has ruined ALL that goodwill for me. The fact that some items were unlockable with VR's and others werent was just stupid

[daring fossil]

I feel similarly, I told myself I wouldn't buy any gun skins after I bought several for the LH1 which i mained and then they ruined that gun so hard it feels like a different weapon now and barely any one ever uses it including me. But on top of the event (to which I didn't complete even though I did the contracts every single day as well), the game is extremely broken right now as well and the devs don't seem to care.

[sour hinge]

Buff the 93R, it feels bad compared to the V9S is objectively better as a pistol,

The 93R should atleast be a pistol version of the famas in a way, it feels like a pee shooter.

I can see I hit them 2 bursts, no misses and it's only barely over half health...

This is close range, by that time I'm beamed by an akm or other AR-SMG

The 93R doesn't feel like a pistol in the likes of V9S nor similar to the prowess of the light smg's

It's laughably bad

V9S you can decently use it at mid range, the 93R just sucks mid range, it's ONLY close and it fails even at that.

Why use 93R when you can use SH9000????

EXACTLY, just buff the damn gun

[swift crater]

add a way from the spectating mode after u die to enter an enemy's perspective to see what they see from there screen

[wide gyro]

I'm really frustrated right now. I've been completing the daily tasks every single day since the event started, but I'm still missing three rewards two of which are the most expensive ones available to purchase with Multibucks. It feels like all that effort should have gotten me closer to finishing, but instead, I'm still falling short! What's even more frustrating is that it seems like the admins don't care about this issue at all. No acknowledgment, no fixes, and it's starting to feel like my time and effort are being completely ignored.

[frank holly]

Cause they want you to buy the rest

[loud trellis]

The m11 literally makes no noise in third person I never hear enemies shooting it just the ricoechets

[cursive bough]

stun gun makes playing alone without your team unplayable. it's fine

[trail mantle]

Tickets not working anymore?

[past river]

[gentle umbra]

You have to understand I don't want to pay 6 dollars on a pair of wings if I've already dropped 40 bucks on other stuff and am a fairly regular player. All the items should be obtainable so long as you play enough to have enough tickets to spin for each item.

[ashen belfry]

I was about to say the same thing....I'm very upset about this.

[cinder elm]

Why you all don't read #game-announcements ? Tickets ended on 13th, event stays up till 15th

#game-announcements message

[misty wolf]

I'm missing 2 weapon skins, costing 800 Multi-bucks
My gf is missing the Pumpkin nade skin (which she wanted to most), costing 800 Multi-bucks

Is this Embark saying the final skin pack costing 800 Multi-bucks?

HMMMMMMMMMMM 🤔

It would be fine if they were to sell all the items from the wheel in the store as a permanent multi-bucks option after the event, but they are not doing that.

[smoky gust]

News flash: 2v1's should be won
Not be a requirement to actually compete

That you need twice as many people, to compete with 1 person has to be the perfect example of imbalance

Being forced to stay in breath smelling range of your team, for casual playing no less, is not fun

And you cant even guarantee that your teammates wont run off and die on their own, leaving you a free kill

Its not fine

[echo urchin]

It’s just random. I bought the items that were 75mb, I used VR as I could afford, and I got the rest with tickets. I finished it early enough through that process to end up with 15 extra tickets.

[valid blaze]

add one more contestant slot so we can have 3 contestants per class

(below me put that in wheel feedback)

(im mad as well i needed 1600 to finish the event)

[modest oak]

The wheel was poorly designed.

[daring fossil]

the wheel was designed specifically to do what it did. The event was poorly designed.

[barren coral]

Thank you for bringing back past BP items like Captain Saucerian! Would love to see more S1 sets coming back like bringing back Odilia's face and some form of the boxer bandaged face accessory!

[neon kettle]

THE WHEEL FEEDBACK JUST DISAPPEARED NOOOOOOOOOO

[tropic root]

I'm sorry penice, but he's right. The sword feels bad and it needs to be reverted to S3 status.

[vestal prairie]

Which YouTuber brought back the 3 turrets

[gray fable]

On our end its random but over a large enough population its easy to predict that most players would be missing just a few that they would be forced to spend multibucks on if they wanted the set

[proper totem]

yo so does anybody else still have the wheel but the ticket contracts are gone?

[scarlet robin]

JUSTIFY THE HEAL BEAM NERFS BY WORKING THE DEFIB INTO THE HEAL BEAM, THEREFORE RESSING IS ACTIVATED BY TARGETING THE TRIBUTE WITH THE BEAM, MAKING IT INTERUPTABLE AND NOT A COMPLETELY FREE REVIVE AND ANOTHER GUN YOU HAVE TO DEAL WITH AFTER KILLING THE REVIVER

[misty wolf]

The joke there is obviously it is random, but i rather be able to buy it even after the event.
Not everyone will be able to get all the items for free.

@scarlet robin That is...actually a really good fucking idea.
Embark ☝️

[mint jewel]

This already no secret

lets say for an example, Buy 2 get 1 free

Its a promotional? it is! Advertised? Yeah! So is that bonus page a bonus? No, because it was advertised as the part of a product

Lets look it as consumer-salesperson perspective

A bonus is no longer a bonus if its advertised because its included in purchase, it is a bonus because it looks like it was added to the value but in the other hand, cost production might less to that total expected sale and it will bring more "unique consumer" to ever try it

In this case, lets say the brand already established and selling a digital product, how long an artist would spend the time make it (Lets talk about the battlepass now) for them to fill the entire 100 slots of battlepass, how is their creative thought around it (well they were hired for that anyway, its not going to be their fault anyway) and lastly how the upper management want this to be advertised and then marketed via, lets say promotional video for the product or just a reel

Aint no way they will not estimating how much people will spend their coins to buy the damn battlepass and since its an era where fomo is now (not just now tbh ) a two edge sword, it will be haunting the consumer, because if its not gonna be in the store for longer how the hell they will obtaining it again? yeah sure maybe store would be reselling them but come on?

So for whoever people say people that not gonna finish the battlepass including the bonus page are whinning, yeah you are free to think about what am i sayng

If im wrong, correction are welcome

[weak swift]

Add helicopter backpacks for lights so mediums have c4 charges attached on them, ready to blow up those rats off the game

[modest oak]

Why is every other game of Powershift agaisnt a premade team of 5?

[zenith tundra]

Key binds sometimes do not work. When I press a key bind, it either does not work or brings out the wrong item. This has been happening since the end of season 3 and seems to be getting worse overtime.

[smoky sluice]

the light smg (XP-54), don’t think they’ll re add the m11 it was cb1 ranked reward already

[stuck sentinel]

XP-54 - Light

[copper canopy]

so the m11?

[grave fox]

No, the person above you responded. It's the XP-54.

[hasty stump]

Guys should I buy the remaining 3 items on the wheel with multibucks? I've only got one new item in the past week of spinning 🥲

[summer yoke]

2 days left in the halloween event and all my dailies were XP and no tickets???

[quartz dirge]

is it only 3 items youre missing? if so, yeah ofc

[burnt notch]

Pumpkin nade costs 600 multibucks

[grand ore]

Make it so every team has one of each class, i've been playing cashout all day and all my teammates are light class or make an option to choose wich classes would you like to be paired with 😭😭😭

[misty wolf]

Then she is paying less than me 😭

[thorny lynx]

100%. Agree

[gray fable]

A highlander (one of each) gamemode would be super fun. Maybe better balanced too

[digital shoal]

I have 19/20 unlocked and refuse to spend multibucks to finish this trick or treat event. I'm very sore that I can no longer earn tickets before the event is even complete. I completed every daily and now absolutely hate VRS and this wheel system. very burned, embark, very.

[rustic pier]

Wheel is terrible respectfully.

[peak hill]

I second @digital shoal 's sentiment. And also respectfully agree with @rustic pier

[sonic arrow]

Melee weapons need some form of stun gun counterplay

[delicate dirge]

its a free game. You want everything handed to you for free? they gotta make money. be thankful they gave us rng to get free shit instead of charging 20 bucks to even spin the wheel like csgo or valorant tier shit

[nova aurora]

I just played a match with a teammate who was gold, a teammate who was silver, and me myself am gold. we just got placed in a match where the teams consisted of 2 gold and a plat, another 2 gold and a plat, and a triple plat team. we were seeded 4th and everyone else was significantly better than us. I feel as though this is very typical for lobbies I am put in. I like the seeding and think it works off and on and it seems like it works in waves where I will have a day where me and my friends do good and it feels balanced and competitive but the next day we are getting crushed. it also feels like games that are this unbalanced typically encourage third partying once everyone realizes that one team is significantly better than the rest. again I like the seeding but with a triple plat there is no way it is going to be competitive for me and my friends.

[pine pollen]

game has so many problems with adjusting for latency, I'm so sick of my shots not registering or being killed behind walls

[silent pine]

Is the Halloween Treat hunt over??

[cursive warren]

i dont get you embark, you were talking about not trying to use the FOMO for your in-game cosmetics but now i have to spend 700 multibucks in missing halloween roulette cosmetics because of FOMO? WTH

[quick coyote]

lmfao

[hollow marten]

extend it by 2 days is insult to injury, this is engineered FOMO, they’re giving people 2 days to sit on that 19/20. Sunk cost fallacy or whatever, this was made specifically to get people who normally wouldn’t pay to spend that extra multibucks to get the set

[fervent tide]

I'm glad I'm not the only one with this problem, this sucks that I grinded all this time to onlly be one away and not get the tickets for it

[plush condor]

They are very sneaky doing this i wanted the pumpkin nade and the red eyes badly to catch my enemies in my Genjutsu but here we are... FOMO club

[digital shoal]

I absolutely understand this and that is why I am not paying for the last item. It is a choice. I love that this game is free but I have also put quite a bit of money into it in support of this team. I want Embark to succeed. Between my son and I, I'm sure I've spent upwards of $200 dollars on this game willingly over the past year.

I'm voicing my opinion that the Spin the Wheel event was an unhealthy way of encouraging people to spend money. I won't be a part of it. Especially after the explanation @rare spear gave for them putting the Alien suit in the store after those of us paid and played for it in Season 1. The idea was that they didn't want to prey on FOMO feelings and give people an opportunity to get access to an existing skin instead of tweaking it and causing people to feel the need to buy it over again. Well, the Spin the Wheel deployment is an example of preying on emotions and FOMO. It's hypocritical. Having a store is one thing. Having a battle pass is one thing. But dangling a carrot for an exclusive Halloween event skin set? Unhealthy.

[gaunt sphinx]

STOP LISTENING TO YOUR COMMUNITY

YOU KNOW BETTER THAN ANYONE HOW TO BALANCE THE GAME YOU MADE, SEASON 1 RELEASE WAS EVIDENCE

< make an event where you revert the game back to season 1 as it released for everyone >

something something back to the past theme

just gauge the reaction to the event, trust me

[quick coyote]

they already did revert this season back to season 1 cuz of the alien battle pass skin which is dumb

[frank holly]

I just want my fcar to feel useful.

[lament finch]

How the hell am i supposed to get the Halloween stuff if u take away the damn tickets

[drifting pawn]

ummm... why are the wheel ticket contracts gone? lamest method of handing out event limited content ever. i have over 1,000 hours sunken into this game and these are the first unlockable awards i miss out on because of the broken ass "luck of the draw" system. I'm quite sure I was cheated out of 3 or 4 tickets and have not gotten any

[cerulean mason]

Here once again to beg the overlords for prop hunt, and for the love of God a decent sawed off skin.

[hushed root]

More M60 Skins pls and ty

[obtuse wedge]

what exactly are u talking about "everything"? dont tell me its those items u got from lvl up, and dont tell me its those that need to finish a 3-5 stages challenge that can took up to a month of playing skins, because we earned them by literally playing non-stop, ive already spent at least 60 or 70 plus, not much, but not a big 0. and if u think TF is dare to put "money spin the wheel" then u are insane. Dont even try to compete csgo, when u have terrible balance since the season 1, the only reason im still playing is because i still enjoy part of the mechanics, but i will never invest the amount of time on this game at this stage as it was in Open Beta.

[delicate dirge]

this is like saying battlepasses are fomo which they just proved isn't true in this game

[quick coyote]

It started like this

[opal ocean]

Please end the medium meta one way or another. It's been many seasons now where a medium is important to the team. Light is still relatively useless. Please make this game fresh again

[delicate yoke]

you can keep the sword's range at how it is but give me those few extra frames of the lunge back or i might go insane

[covert dagger]

Played every single day of the event, havent missed a single opportunity to get tickets, been stuck at 18/20 for the passed 3 days. Just hoping the next two days are what I need because it being luck based really sucks with this much effort put in

[versed cloud]

Sword hitbox is straight up visually wrong at times. Don't understand why.

[tall cradle]

Making Discord the primary platform for communication is fine, but it shouldn't be the only one. So many people come in asking why they can't earn tickets anymore despite the event page saying there's still 2 days. Stuff like this should be more clearly communicated in-game, so you don't have masses getting confused and having to open Discord to get information about in-game mechanics and events. On that note, would be nice to have at least a vague roadmap of what's coming, instead of sporadic posts clarifying developer decisions.

[hard sand]

No More Tickets (gone)

[brisk garden]

THIS SPIN THE WHEEL THING SUCKS. I've only got 4 things unlocked and I've rolled dupes twice as many times

[lament finch]

I literally need one more but it's gone @opal ocean also u most not get good light teammates

[polar blaze]

Buff sword 🗣️

[quiet saddle]

Sooo no more tickets when event is still active? what the what? Ive had duplicate after duplicate why take the tickets away early now

[barren silo]

Event ends in two days or not?

[cerulean mason]

I finished the event and got all the things, but you really should give everyone 6 tickets (2 days worth) since you failed so epicly to communicate the rules. You had an "event rules" page in-game that featured no mention of this whole "tickets will not be earned the last two days" nonsense. You need to start communicating better with players through the game, the casuals that keep the servers full don't check discord to see event rules. They just see a broken event and treat it as such. Your communication through discord is nice, but as someone said previously it should not be your main method of communicating with players. I really like the survey for s5 BP skins, but advertise a QR code on the main menu of the game, don't just make an announcement in the discord. At least try to get more players involved through the actual game, or maybe express the importance of joining the discord in the main menu or something

[echo urchin]

☝️☝️☝️☝️

[misty wolf]

They technically did here on discord, the 2 days were because of an error in which people were not gaining their tickets from dailies. If it worked as intended it would of ended today.

[fierce valve]

Day 6.5 of asking for Solo Bank It

[winged moth]

I know the south american servers are dead, but I'd like to ask for an effort to be made so the game's text can be translated into Latin American Spanish, please!

[lament surge]

Good job with the game balancing this season Embark, you sure did an amazing job! I just feel like i'm obligated to say thank you cause me and my other two buddies have been running triple model and we can't seem to lose a game, thank you so much! I'm currently top 50 ranked and i must say if it wasn't for the model i'd still be silver or gold probably. Thank you Embark! There's nothing wrong with the game at all, there's no problems for you to adress, keep ignoring the community and looking at your data, this ir certainly working and making everyone happy!

[unreal fossil]

Posting my form again so that more people can answer: https://forms.gle/bWh53FdUxVoutCxs9.

I built it in hopes that the community picks it up. The more feedback it gets, the more it can help Embark and the community get a clearer view on how players see class balance, cashout rules, respawns, maps... IMO it's not just about raw data like pick rates and such, player experience also counts.

Results are available to any participant, so you can use the data however you wish.

[keen tartan]

Spin the wheel Halloween event was awful. Even players who played every single day since the event started didn't get every item. What a complete disaster! Not to mention for five items it's 1,700 coins. What a horrible deal. Even 2 days left of the event and we don't get anymore tickets?? What's going on there??@junior igloo All they needed to do was add missions, complete the missions and you get the items. They tried to be different yet got scorched into flames

[junior igloo]

oh no u didnt get every single item its almost as if embark added TWENTY ONE items for one goddamn limited time event dude just be glad they made these stuff in the first place would u rather have them give 5 crappy items and u get all of them?

@covert dagger the point of the wheel was they wanted to try something new that fitted the gameshow theme, which i enjoyed. i didnt nearly get all the rewards but the suspense and excitement when u do get the rewrads is very rewarding in its own way. for example brawl stars used to have mega boxes and they were exciting and interesting, but instead they migrated to a stale, linear form of progression in which u knew what you were gonna get and what you could get. i miss mega boxes and i quit the game partially because of their removal

although i do understand the frustration with being unable to get the final reward in a limited time event; i agree that this kind of method is probably suited better for a continued thing not for just a week or two

[quick coyote]

Sights be breakdancing ig, this goes for all guns but the m11 is the worst case and no my sight isn't bugged it's the recoil it's so unbearable

[covert dagger]

Isn't much logic in what you're saying, honestly just seem a little pissy for no reason. It's not an event they're attempting to profit from so what real sense was there in making it entirely luck based. It's a playtime incentive event. Get people in the game on a consistent recurring basis was the goal. But in making it luck based someone playing the game for half as many event days as someone who plays every single dat would could get all the items and most importantly the set for obtaining every item. Could have just made it so after 4-5 duplicate spin your next spin is a guaranteed item. Would love to hear what's so wrong with that option given like you said it's free, it's play incentive, what's the logic in not?

[stone hazel]

im really really really bummed about the treat hunt event
i earned my three tickets literally every single day of the event and it still wasnt enough to get everything
the remaining three items are a whopping $10 worth of real life money
and ive wanted that stealth specter skin since playing the beta a year ago so i was really excited when i saw it in the event
and now i just dont get to have it even though i did literally everything i possibly could without spending real life money
it sucks that all that work i put in means nothing for the item i wanted most

[timber path]

I happily spend money in this game, because I like it (already spent probably 100$+)
However I just can't endorse the arrival of the famous surprise mechanics such as the spinning wheel involving luck, so I won't spend for it, and if the game is heading toward this kind of monetization, this won't make me want to spend any more money in it

[sharp stone]

all the sights jump around, doesnt matter if its on pc or console

[civic stag]

Is the Halloween event over?

[keen tartan]

Yes even though it says we have 2 days left and we can't get anymore tickets LMAO! Who design this?!

[jagged vector]

Please please pleeeeeeassse make next the medium nerf with the defibs, tired of the defib train ruins the game honestly. Make it so once you get revived with the defibs you have a delay as if you just used the defibs and I’m a medium main to

[worn quarry]

Shame that you can't earn all the rewards from the treat hunt event. Getting duplicate rewards is so cheesy... I really wanted that last outfit and had four more items to unlock, but I won't get that now since you can't earn tickets from the dailies anymore...

[echo bronze]

Can't earn tickets anymore. Stuck at 19/20 collected items even though I collected 3 tickets every single day of the event. Only one missing is the item I wanted the most, but instead I just spent the last week spinning for VRs that I can't spend. It's super dissatisfying missing something that I grinded for only to miss out due to RNG. I really hope future events learn from this and don't withhold prizes from the player to no fault of their own. Honestly a worse feeling than most FOMO mechanics in games, because I did play and earn my spins.

This event needed either duplicate protection of some sort (shouldn't go four days in a row without getting anything), or the option to actually USE the VRs and buy everything outright.

[brazen fog]

yeah this sucks, its impossible to earn tickets now im at 14 items cuz i keep getting vr and ive completed my quests everyday since it started

[snow cosmos]

I have an idea for sinkhole event. The ground starts to collapse destroying the buildings and changing the land scape.

[coral axle]

I'm not paying 800 multi bucks for two skins. I couldn't get on the wheel! This is predatory gambling that's unnecessary. If they don't put these items in the store I might be done with this game!!!!

[latent pecan]

lol played all but 2 days didn't get everything on the wheel.

[quick coyote]

that gambling wheel thing was cheesy and low-effort FOMO bait, but turning the tickets off on the last 2 days is mad conniving lol

[sterile mist]

Couldn’t agree more, only 2 items left and landed on VRS 5 days on a row.
My problem is this event is cash grab and not luck, if they didn’t add the option buying the items with multibucks or VRS I didn’t care that I didn’t got them, but they just added items that some of them you can buy with VRS and multibucks and some of them for some reason you can buy only with multibucks.

[wooden atlas]

We need a grenade indicator SO BAD

[glacial sierra]

wheel bad, game design bad, embark bad. ❤️

[candid epoch]

Recurve Bow

• Base Minimum Damage 60 -> 20
• Base Maximum Damage 120 -> 100
• Tap fire/Spam fire projectile speed slowed by 50%
• Tap fire/Spam fire projectile arc increased by 70%

The bow currently doesn't punish the player for tap or spam firing nearly enough, which would be fine if it ALSO didn't do more base damage than the sniper (115 v 120) and was more consistent at range.

[gaunt sphinx]

STOP LISTENING TO YOUR COMMUNITY

YOU KNOW BETTER THAN ANYONE HOW TO BALANCE THE GAME YOU MADE, SEASON 1 RELEASE WAS EVIDENCE

< make an event where you revert the game back to season 1 as it released for everyone >

something something back to the past theme

just gauge the reaction to the event, trust me

ADDENDUM

wheel spin event was a fantastic introduction and a serious revival for the idea of "real events" in this game
<once again don't listen to your community>

[misty wolf]

I will never allow you to have that - Grenade chad

@cerulean mason <- this lazy small child is talking to me. 😭 Wanted attention by dmin

[cerulean mason]

Try again when you gain basic reading comprehension

[mossy rose]

This battle pass was so mid, First battle pass in a game that I didn't buy, wth soooo mid

[keen tartan]

Outfit should be gained by skill. Instead of pressing one button and praying you get the item you want on a wheel. Just plain lazy. There's nothing rewarding about it. I hope we will still be able to obtain these items in some way. This is no way to treat the dedicated Finals players.

[feral shell]

please fix the damn footstep audio in this game. its the worst of any fps ive ever played

[rigid granite]

fix the ticket bug cause for some reason yall took the tickets out of the daily's

[upbeat ridge]

Is it me or skill base matchmaking is super off ? I’m a silver going against emerald teams 😔

[glacial sierra]

there is no sbmm outside ranked

[fallow gust]

Bring back the old dagger! The new one is too casual, and now players who have been playing for a long time are on the same level as beginners because the dagger can’t be fully utilized anymore. It makes aggressive play impossible by slowing down the character too much. At the very least, could you remove the slowdown effect on the dagger? Please bring back my favorite weapon—I can’t play like this 😭

[dim forge]

idk if this is bait but this is literally the opposite of predatory gambling. You CANNOT buy extra spins. There is no way to put your hard earned money into a chance of getting these.

[obsidian delta]

You can buy the skins directly with multibucks, so it is like a bait into spending money but not gambling, also to the other guy the items will be in the store most likely, They put in text that they are up for resale or smthn later on

[glacial sierra]

it uses all the tricks of gambling (perceived control over 'random' chance built in the favour of the house), with the option to spend money to get a 'sure thing'. it's predatory either way, and more than that it's a straight-up FOMO tool, which they said immediately prior to this event, that they were against using to make money.

if monty python were developers....

[clear quest]

is anyone else just getting fortune stadium all day today or is it just me

[thorny lynx]

1. Halloween event was a great thought... but bad execution. As shown above many, many people stuck with 19/20 items. VR's are worthless if you put time in the game. Should have made EVERY single item purchasable with VR's. The pull for microtransaction whilst you say you are trying to stay away is blatant and annoying.
2. TURRETS are still the worst thing. Make them reload, MISS A SHOT, disappear when operator is dead... anything than the stupid aimbot they are now. DONT LET THEM GO ON FLOWER POTS? WHY IS THIS STILL AN ISSUE? YOU CAN LITERALLY PUT 2 TURRETS ON A POT FROM SKYWAY???
3. So the AOE for melee is dumb. In general.
4. Model is perfect, but needs a buff... just add another single round.
5. Just do better, don't let this game that was great in season 1 die in less than a year

[coral axle]

Can you get all the skins on the wheel playing everyday? NO, chances of getting every single item and all the days of playing is less than 1%

[thick sorrel]

The Finals Models Patch Notes 4.5.0 4.6.0 4.7.0 4.8.0

We couldn't balance 3 Classes and their Weapons. So we went this Season for MMM - Medium Model Meta.

~~Pike

• Decreased fire rate from 200 RPM to 199 RPM
  Dev Note: We suspect it may still be too effective, so we'll adjust in Season 5 maybe.~~

Model 1887

• Sniper Scope added
• ACOG (4x) added
  Dev Note: We nudge the effective range, so... deal with it.
  **Real Fix: 2-Shots Lights and 3-Shots Heavys, but not above 10m! - e.g. 117 Dmg+more Spread **

Akimbo Deagles

• Reworked: Shoots now explosive Rounds
  Dev Note: The midrange accuracy was way less oppressive than intended, so we added AoE to improve it.

Dual Blades

• Decreased blades from 2 to 1
  Dev Note: There's only one Blade. There's only ever gonna be one Blade.

MGL32

• Reworked: Grenades need to bounces 3 times before detonation
  Dev Note: It's so bad, I can't even make fun of it. Anyone?

Defibrillator

• Increase Charge from 1 to Two and a Half😩
  Dev Note: Defibrillated Medium's can instantly use their own Defibrillator. Obviously it's not Alan enough.

~~Healbeam

• Dogwalking plays the Theme from Ghostbusters
  Dev Note: What is Dead May Never Die~~

Charge & Slam

• Renamed to Flash & Hulk
  Dev Note: We thought the lightning-fast sprint activation and the damage level of Hulk Smash expressed it much better!

Spear

• Spinning it plays the Sound Helicopter Helicopter
  Dev Note: This makes your enemies laugh even more.

[mossy rose]

The desync and Latency in this game is abysmal. I seen decade old game have more accurate hit reg, I'm dying to shots when I already slid past cover

[dim forge]

@obsidian delta

1. I agree that having a spinning wheel might be a feelbad BUT
2. there is no predatory aspect to this. It is clearly a chance mechanic. You may not like it, but it in no way encourages you to spend extra money than you would have if it were simply a store with no chance.
3. @glacial sierra What are you talking about being "in favour of the house"???? They make no profit from letting you make spins and you cannot spend any real money on said spins.
4. The entire battlepass is FOMO, idk what everyone expected but there are already plenty of FOMO type mechanics in the game.
5. @coral axle So what? if you can't get all the free stuff then you can't get it. IT IS FREE. THEY GAVE IT TO YOU

Embark could give everyone a free house on a 1% spinner and you all would still complain.

[lost talon]

dont touch anything in the game except model because a medium's best weapon at all skill ranges should not be a shotgun and definitely do not listen to any people here for balancing advice. People will not bother learning the weapon/spec again and again and just drop the game instead

[quick coyote]

make dual blades faster or let me cancel swings with block

[keen tartan]

Dude I get it. You're a straight up Finals fan even if they rob you straight in a dark alley. It' so messed up If you have to break the bank when being offered free stuff . Keep in mind the event still has 2 DAYS LEFT but we get no more tickets!

This gives me loot box vibes✨

[carmine orbit]

Yeah, it’s insulting that they would even try this idea with us.

[coral axle]

Bro you can literally get every single thing in the battle pass if you just play the game. How is that FOMO. You get a limited amount of tickets in a finite amount of time. Can't wait to see the very small majority get the outfit that's not even purchasable from the store. I get it for ranked rewards because they earn it for being the best players in the game. This entire event incentivizes you to use multibuck if you Don't get everything. There's already been multiple people where it will cost some 1000 multibucks or more to finish the event. All I'm saying is that they should never do it again, also you shouldn't defend multi-million dollar companies that use predatory tactics to get your money 🙂

[dim forge]

I understand that you do not like chance mechanics,** I do not either** but what you are saying is not true.

FOMO, or fear of missing out, is a feeling that you may miss something if you do not act quickly, encouraging premature and impulsive actions.
The battle pass is composed of timed exclusive items, encouraging you to play as much as possible to get them, with the last page of items being nearly unreachable for the majority of players
The spinning wheel is also FOMO.

Embark's monetisation is however, extremely f2p friendly. Skins are extremely cheap, and you can get them and battle passes for free quite easily with what you get in the free battlepass and many of the codes they release for free multibucks.

I also believe that the way they said that there were "2 days left" was pretty bad, but 🤷‍♂️ thats a different problem

[fiery tartan]

^ they're only cosmetics. obviously chance is crappy, but there's plenty of free stuff too and you didnt even spend anything on the game in the first place.

also... #🎡┇the-wheel-feedback

[misty wolf]

Play Once Human and do lootboxes there then come back and tell me how many free rolls you do. (:
You're obviously here not getting the fact that you are getting free rewards but because it isnt all of it, you whine.

Through the patch notes they post every week, they even said it was going to be 2 days extended for only rolling and buying what you didn't get from your rolls.

Im missing 2, costing 800 in total. you buy or you dont. make sure to even check all the items you could purchase can be purchased with VR.

[keen tartan]

You can't compare the battle pass with the wheel. The Battle pass is for the most dedicated players. The more dedicated the more rewards. The wheel you're shoving a ticket in a slot machine and hoping for the best. It's lazy my friend.

@misty wolf I did it every day and still have 5 item left. That's 1700 coins which almost $20 (basically the battle pass) when others finished for free.. They're punishing players for pressing a button with no skill or control in the matter

[dawn valve]

TEAMMATES LEFT 3 TIMES IN A ROW AND I LOST OVER 3000 RP FUICKING FIX THE SYSTEM

[lost talon]

Lol

[delicate basin]

How am I supposed to get headshots with these stupid wings

[dim forge]

Again, I also do not like having a spinner wheel but people can't just lie abt it, saying that it is some sort of predatory gacha system with "house edge". Other people need to learn to just say what they don't like instead of making up things to hate on.

Battle passes are nonetheless FOMO systems, and all cosmetic microtransactions are in some way predatory. Embark need to make money.

They should not make another of these wheels, as it is not enjoyable as a player to roll it. Sure. But a lot of these people are butthurt abt being unlucky and saying things that are not true.

[brittle obsidian]

nerf model damage, buff its spread back up

[misty wolf]

They're punishing players for pressing a button with no skill or control in the matter
The fuck are you on about.

[rapid rover]

Need the double barrel shot gun nerfed asap shit is super broken excuse my language
On a side note love the new deagle skin and sound affect add more stuff like that to the game

[feral shell]

Just remove the sniper from powershift. Massive wide open sight lines make it a god gun that just stifles all movement and strategy. These maps obviously werent made with powershift in mind so just compromise and improve the mode to play better with non OP guns

[hoary torrent]

Why do I have so much XP left to get when I'm doing tasks every day

[bold silo]

NERF

Model, AK or buff everything else

[bitter acorn]

It would be pretty neat to get a little popup in the main menu showing us which song is playing.

[fleet timber]

delete cl40 from the game the worst gun so toxic and annoing

[shell grail]

You guys responded to my call for that CNS skin I missed out on because of the bug and IM BLESSED YOU GUYS GAVE ME THE SKIN THANK YOU 🙏

[wind meteor]

As much as I would like that to be true, I don't think it's fair. I play powershift to warm up and practice new weapons. And as much as I like this mode for that reason, I cannot accept other people not having the chance at it with their weapon of choice. So maybe, if some other mode is created specifically for long ranged weapons, like the SR-84 and Pike-556, then it's okay to remove them from Power Shift.

@rapid rover players be complaining about the model while the double barrel can 2 shot a Heavy. Light just don't know how to use it like the good Medium players use the model.

[carmine ginkgo]

nerf model dmg then game balance is more or less ok

[onyx crystal]

Balance around HML meta 🙏

[glacial sierra]

if you don't understand the points I and others have made already, i'm not going to be able to explain it to you here. or rather i don't have the time/energy to explain it better than is already has been clearly laid out multiple times.

[dim forge]

I went to stupid town and they all knew you

[daring fossil]

you don't have an "in-world crosshair" option on console?

[misty wolf]

They are literally mad that they have to spend money to buy the rest of the items from the wheel. Fucking children on this issue.

Get tickets, get free items for the duration of the event. Event ends, no more tickets. Cry bitch and moan cause no more tickets. "Embark bad, I cant have all the free"

Realize these people probably played a gacha game and spent hundreds on rolls instead of $10 for what is left in the wheel.

[stuck stream]

hiya, im an oce player but ranked gamemode is dead :[
are there any time blocks or weekly queue schedules for my region? if not please consider hosting weekly online sessions for oce ranked thanks :)
edit: asia queue is not the same and feels laggy and isnt ideal for competitive gameplay

[swift laurel]

you have to queue asia

[acoustic frost]

My love for this game will die if I have to keep playing bank it just to get sponsors cuz embark thought it was a fantastic idea to make it so bank it is the only reliable way to get sponsors cuz no one plays that joke of a game mode. Unbelievable

[stuck sentinel]

nerf ak?!?
wtf

[dawn valve]

FUCK the charge and slam that just KILLS ME THROUGH WALLS. I CANT EVEN REACT AND THEY CAN JUST DO IT AS A DYING RESORT AND KILL ME. Nothing THAT unavoidable should do 80% OF A LIGHTS HEALTH. Fuck right off with that shit

[wind meteor]

LOL what are you smoking? I am almost done with the sponsorship stuff and I have never played Bank It.

@stuck sentinel a clear indication that players like @bold silo have skill issues and will complain about anything that kills them twice in a round.

@glacial sierra no point you or others did checks out or makes sense. The only one that does is that you are greedy butthurt players. They could have easily put all the stuff in the store. Instead they gave you a chance at getting a lot for free, and you still cry about it... pathetic. God forbid a studio makes some money out of a free to play game.

[unique cedar]

Embark, could u place a pet little bit higher for Heavy class maybe Light too, bc now it collides with a player model in a wrong way.

[dreamy mirage]

Playing Asia it's just impossible dropped from D4 to Plat 2, fix your anticheat the game is in a clownery state, if you planning to make the game look good, you wont do it like this. You only have left NA thath as content creators sponsoring the game for you. Europeans quitted most of them, Asia it's just full of cheaters, with the new RS point system you are litterally encouraging people to pay a boosting session, the lower your seed is the more points you get = 1 unranked rage hacking a plat and a gold is 1800 rs points per win

[acoustic frost]

I doubt that and yeah bank it is the “best” way for sponsorship cuz this game is garbage by matching less experienced players with the top players. Absolute trash systems and i see why this game is dying donkey

[wind meteor]

what are you doubting man?
here is my sponsorship, and here is a contract that shows I barely played anything other than powershift (because powershift doesn't count towards cash, and I only played 2 WT rounds in the past week because my friends were not free to play)

[fleet socket]

Unless fixed when the fan got buffed, WT doesn't tell you the amount of fans earned through the whole tournament just the last round played, after winning the final round I got +355 but my total went up by 830. Idk how much bank it gives but I got mine finished with just playing world tour

[acoustic frost]

Some of us got stuff to do and power shift doesn’t give you any fans so u either have no life or are cheating.

Bank is the same but it’s such an awful game mode

[storm quarry]

Thats what yall get light mains

[dense ocean]

day 59 asking embark
let console players able/disable HUD

[hoary torrent]

Have you guys finished your mission? Feels like I can't finish the last two pages... And sponsor assignments...

[thick sorrel]

The Finals Models Patch Notes 4.5.0 4.6.0 4.7.0 4.8.0

We couldn't balance 3 Classes and their Weapons. So we went this Season for MMM - Medium Model Meta.

~~Pike

• Decreased fire rate from 200 RPM to 199 RPM
  Dev Note: We suspect it may still be too effective, so we'll adjust in Season 5 maybe.~~

Model 1887

• Sniper Scope added
• ACOG (4x) added
  Dev Note: We nudge the effective range, so... deal with it.
  **Real Fix: 2-Shots Lights and 3-Shots Heavys, but not above 10m! - e.g. 117 Dmg+more Spread **

Akimbo Deagles

• Reworked: Shoots now explosive Rounds
  Dev Note: The midrange accuracy was way less oppressive than intended, so we added AoE to improve it.

Dual Blades

• Decreased blades from 2 to 1
  Dev Note: There's only one Blade. There's only ever gonna be one Blade.

MGL32

• Reworked: Grenades need to bounces 3 times before detonation
  Dev Note: It's so bad, I can't even make fun of it. Anyone?

Defibrillator

• Increase Charge from 1 to Two and a Half😩
  Dev Note: Defibrillated Medium's can instantly use their own Defibrillator. Obviously it's not Alan enough.

~~Healbeam

• Dogwalking plays the Theme from Ghostbusters
  Dev Note: What is Dead May Never Die~~

Charge & Slam

• Renamed to Flash & Hulk
  Dev Note: We thought the lightning-fast sprint activation and the damage level of Hulk Smash expressed it much better!

Spear

• Spinning it plays the Sound Helicopter Helicopter
  Dev Note: This makes your enemies laugh even more.

[keen lily]

model is fine
also model:

[wind meteor]

Are you for real?
I get between 300 to 400 fans in power shift, depending on my performance, and I play at least 4 rounds per day, which is an hour at most. On free days I only play between 10 and 12 pm. Factor into it that the first 3 weeks of the season, a medium only gets fans for the support score, which I didn't know, and used to manage at most 90 fans per powershift round, because I don't use heal beam in powershift. This was changed 3 or 4 updates ago. Had it been the case since the beginning I would've been done by now.
So, I don't know what's your problem or why you're that jealous.

@keen lily yeah, it is strong in the right hands, but also there is a major skill issue with the opponent team. Heavy dealt you 25 dmg only. Light was already damaged a bit and attacked way too close. I know the location makes it necessary, but every location would put a certain weapon at an advantage. They could have destroyed the zipline, or thrown the station down to a more open space and stayed on the hanging platform. The medium also landed a great shot with his model, but instead of finishing you on his second appearance, he decided, in the middle of the fight, to defib the heavy. Bad decision.

So I know the model is strong, but I'm pretty sure 75% of the players complaining are making bad decisions too, and are faced by a good player. Not any player can be faced by so many movements and special effects and still be able to land all his shots.

[elfin rune]

Unbalanced buff light, nerf heavy

[past ridge]

EMBARK PLEASE NERF THIS GODDAMN MODEL FOR F SAKE!

[sharp snow]

Make better world tour updates. And also let me join engimo or holtow because what the fuck iseul-t

[compact cloud]

I joined this discord just to give a little bit of salt but feedback over the halloween wheel, I wanted to say that it is not good, I had done almost every daily achievement rewards and spun way too many times and still I ended up at 15/20 items. I just wish to ask that for future events to please use something like the battlepass as a lottery wheel is just plain unfun and just kind of makes me sad about the fact I didn't even get a real chance to get the exclusive skin as it looks sikk. ||anyways off to spend real cash to get the skin||

[quick coyote]

Ranked Solo Q should give more RS and lose less RS than Duo/Trio for obvious reasons.

I hope Embark make it possible to customize bots in private match and adding practice range as a mini map 2vs2 / 1vs1

[acoustic frost]

Bro a just admitting he’s a hacker lmao

[twilit junco]

Why do my skins on my weapons and emotes reset all the time? :(

[upper granite]

Reveal emerald rewards at the first day of the season, thank you!

[stuck sentinel]

100k cash is not much xd

[copper blaze]

This.

Gambling sucks, it should not be a matter of being lucky.

[wind meteor]

It's not gambling when you're spinning for free. Get yourself together.
@copper blaze they clearly said they're keeping it so that you spend any tickets you have left.

@acoustic frost lol, imagine being such a loser that you accuse others of hacking. Grow up man. Don't be butt-hurt ❤️

@stuck sentinel yeah exactly, that's how I am showing that I am not playing bank it.

[cosmic narwhal]

day 11 of asking for a ready up button

[gusty stag]

Fire game no issues but the physics for the broken walls, floor, etc feel a little heavy

[thick sorrel]

Model, Defib, Charge & Slam - Top 3 most annoying things of The Finals🤣

[azure tree]

Hide the ranks in ranked. COME ON u did this alrewady in TA

[merry creek]

Still can't earn tickets???? Wtf

[hoary torrent]

I've been on duty every day this season and I haven't missed a day. So I have done all I need to do, why is it still so much less XP?? . By my rough calculation, for the next 30 days, you need to play at least 15 games a day in order to get the full reward, and that does not include the sponsor's reward. I don't know how Embark judge whether a player is trying hard or not, at least as a working person to complete the daily tasks is not easy. Not everyone stays in their mom's house all day playing video games. I think this is a bug, please fix it ASAP.

[analog wolf]

sooo the wheel event ends tomorrow, you can get duplicates, and you cannot earn the tickets right now. yeah real great embark ://///////////////////////////

[acoustic frost]

You’re the self righteous JA here and ur math is trash not mine but sure you definitely aren’t hacking😂

[spark cloak]

at this point i don't even understand wut vrs is for , i have got 5k since last week , we should at least be able to exchange it for multibucks . It's very clear that embark wanted players to spend real cash for that treat hunt skin . Now i'm stuck with one item and 400 multibucks is all i need . Uhhh

[verbal isle]

1 reward left in the wheel, did all 5 quests and did not get any tickets. Nice work Embark 👍

[rapid rover]

@wind meteor i played against a light that kept going invisible while barrel stuffing, keep in mind this only becomes problem because when a lot of destruction occurs the audio bugs out causing the player to not be able to hear certain actions around him making the enemies virtually undetected under certain circumstances

[thorny lynx]

Wait.... a freaking FASHION SHOW? Wowwwwwwwww sad state.... sad state bad game BAD!

[lilac coral]

A fashion show wtf is going with this game cod is looking good right
Now

[bold silo]

I am talking here as Plat 3-4 player currently

Heavy is balanced
Medium needs nerf of model dmg and defib needs longer cooldown
Light needs overall buff for all weapons except maybe uzi - 10-20 hp up or buff to all weapons

That means sniper buff, bow buff, sword reverse nerf

[echo urchin]

Are we gunna get an in game runway to show off our drip for the contest?

Can we display our own drip in the practice range instead of the battle pass drip?

[willow mortar]

We need an emblem for arena damage.

[night bone]

Im tired of this shit, add this fucking input base matchmaking, how should i keep up with mnk Jesus christ

[modern sparrow]

Can we get Pale/Grey skin added to the game? I'm specifically talking about how that one cowboy hat turns your whole body grey, I just want that for the skin I like the color but would love to not have to wear the hat.

[hushed dove]

Would love to be able to change crosshairs for every weapon

[rustic spire]

Going to have to disable the reset vertical rotation key bind unless using gyro. Basically a recoil script equivalent when on flat ground.

[swift laurel]

remove the fomo wheel and focus on bug fixes please

[echo bronze]

There needs to be a max turn speed set for mesh shield. With a high-enough mouse sensitivity, a heavy can just spin a full 360° every frame, effectively creating a secondary dome shield with a much higher health pool. It doesn't have to be slow enough that a skilled player can't turn to block attacks, but slow enough that an unskilled player can't just toggle up their DPI and slide across their mousepad to become invulnerable.

[proper crescent]

So you're asking for the smoke with a ridiculous cooldown that doesn't even cover me when I'm standing in the center, to be nerfed?

[magic wren]

Embark, what are y doing. 3 stacking in ruby and we are playing against cheaters every day. We lost around 4k points only because of hackers. This game is fcked

[past ridge]

BROOO PLEASE NERF THIS GODDAMN MODEL, FOR FUCK SAKE DUDE. JUST NERF. COME ON 😭

[polar blaze]

Buff sword pleaseeee 😭🙏

[hollow badger]

Input based matchmaking

[delicate basin]

bow low charge shot should get a buff. It's impossible to hit and you get nothing

[olive finch]

Cant redeem my tickets for daily challenges whats going on?

[lost talon]

the game is not even worth playing when kyoto comes around on world tour and skyway is the map of the decade

[mossy magnet]

me too I think they just removed it for today even tho its the last day which is a shame, I'm just missing 3 and if I got 1 I could buy the rest

[silver raptor]

How you upload your outfit ?

[sour viper]

anybody else unable to earn treat hunt tickets? my dailies no longer give them as rewards

[jolly glade]

A grenade that summons a orbital laser would be cool. Just function it the same way as the event. Give it a decent cooldown. Etc.

[cold thicket]

Give more possibilitys to earn event skins next time. I got my 3 spins every day of the event but got duplicates for a week straight. I would have to pay 11€ to get all the skins even though I did everything I could to finish the event. Very frustrating!

[rapid stream]

Nerf 93r too while were at it

[stuck sentinel]

Nerf 93r pls
It’s too op

[raw summit]

Hear me out. Add a debuff to triple medium teams, either by making the defib cooldown longer when there are multiple or reducing health upon revive. Triple Medium with at least 2 heal guns feels super oppressive if you don't also have at least 2 mediums. Especially when mediums are performing very well in general right now compared to light and heavy

[lost talon]

defrib chain is indeed broken, I should not be having 8 kills against 1 team of 3 people in a single encounter and they still dont get wiped. There should be a cooldown on how quickly you can get revived, maybe once in 90 sec at best. You can extend this kind of a cooldown to people triple stacking other abilities as well. Blacken the statue or glitch or some visible effect that shows you that you cant insta revive yet

[vale acorn]

10v10 big battle

[alpine pebble]

nerf the m26 matter

[gloomy falcon]

Please fix the Fingerless Glove clipping problem when holding and charging a dagger, the knuckle part on the glove clips through

[rapid stream]

I don’t feel like it

[cinder elm]

Man... nerf Riot Shield. I have no idea how to counter that stupid indestrucible shield without fire and yet now shield doesn't catch on fire, did it really need that buff? It's already pain in the ass to counter melee weapons with ranged weapons. Sledgehammer feels weird to use. Hits doesn't register when they should based on animation etc.

Rotate maps based on previously played matches. I am so tired to play on same three maps to the point it feels like there's no other maps in game. Constantly being put in Seoul and SysHorizon. On very rare occasions I get to play Fortune Stadium or never at all.
And I said this once before, stop matching with same people from previous match. I "love" seeing same enemies again that we're sweating their asses off last match.

[thin saffron]

I usually catch a shield guy when he opens up for a moment and keep my distance. that's enough. but if it's a guy who walks sideways and moves the shield in different directions, you really have to run 💀

[royal mango]

Embark: "world tour will allow us to be able to tweak the rules for cash out"

Also Embark: "here's a fashion contest outside of world tour with 0 rule changes"

[quartz dirge]

💀no words can describe this post

[vale acorn]

I once got Kyoto for two days in a row

[scenic fog]

Where are the Halloween challenges? they are not in the dailies anymore

[pulsar willow]

they're gone
wheel will be up for the next day or something like that

[drifting thistle]

why embark dun wan be transparent with cheater issue. Sound like no plan. just check ban repeat, without actually tackle the root cause

[wraith salmon]

embark update FSR 2 to FSR 3.1.2

[wispy sand]

Bring back heavy hammer right click multi hit, sword keeps it so its only fair

[glacial sierra]

'estimated time: 1min'

5min later....

[quick coyote]

I think a lot of cosmetics could use some work in the collision and compatibility department. A lot of them seem like they could be worn together without any collisions, yet one cancels out another, while some collide and go through other cosmetics and can be worn together easily

[alpine pebble]

mimimimimi

[exotic tangle]

If the weapon needs hands it doesn't need to change, right?

[long knoll]

Are we going to get any new game modes soon? Maybe something that can use the 5v5?

[graceful lion]

the infinite tracking dart/motion sensor/sensor nade bug still exists. just an enemy team for an entire match

[red arch]

mesh cooldown is a horrible idea

[autumn musk]

smoke is supposed to obscure your vision, if you cant play in a smoke, skill issue

[celest berry]

basicly deleting Pike from the game and leaving Model untouched the nerf to Model is just a paper nerf nothing else
Pike was maybe one per Team (its only overperforming due to cheaters)
Model is 60-80% of the mediums
clearly Pike needed the nerf

[rough storm]

Ya gotta admit you got a point there, the stun gun is arguably even more annoying than the sword cuz as soon as you get stun gunned and you get pushed by more than one person there's no way of countering said attack and might aswell give up. I never get why lights needed that gadget in the first place tbh

[unreal fossil]

Here's a quick glimpse at the data gathered through my Google Forms on Season 4 : https://forms.gle/khsWQfWYX9pzpnzA6

The results of theses polls don't come out as very surprising for the most part, and simple questions cannot give in-depth details about the hows and the whys. This is just a tool that helps laying out general feedback in a simpler/clearer way. Any participant should have access to the data after they've completed the form -please let me know if it doesn't work.

I built this in hopes that it could be of any help to the community, and maybe even Embark themselves. The more answers the better.

[vale acorn]

I would like two teams of 5 getting put together to fight another team of 10 assembled the same way

[long knoll]

Personally a capture the flag or domination mode would be cool

[neon burrow]

Touch model before listening to light nerf whiners k thx

[fervent shale]

Melee

[smoky sluice]

killing in 0.833 seconds is balanced

[rough storm]

It's only gonna be accurate after a much higher x-amount of votes though, that's the downside of it all

[spark berry]

I just love gambling for vrs embark, I only have two left on the wheel looks like I wasn’t lucky enough

[young turtle]

Firstly, I will admit that this is a skill issue but come on man, let me reroll contracts. This has been stuck here for more than a month now. Just let us use VRs to reroll contracts, I don't care if I get the same ones cycling over, as long as I can get a better one suited for me. I don't get why you removed the option to reroll contracts, it was a great way for VR to be relevant. You buff the cap to 5k, now what? What do we do with 5k VRs? I still have 6 rerolls but I already have all the items from the event coz I'm almost forced to spend coz "it's based off luck" bs. There are a lot more weekly contracts that I despise with a passion. (Interrupt opponents stealing & headshot contracts mainly. Not only do they not count properly but it's also not fun) #ReturnContractRerolls

Also, **WHO THOUGHT IT WAS A GOOD IDEA TO HAVE A LOOT BOX SYSTEM AS AN EVENT?! LIKE, REALLY??**I understand that you want people to spend but jesus christ this recent event just feels bad. If you want ideas for events or skins or w/e, just make polls and send it to the community every now and again. It keeps engagement AND both ends know it's what the player/consumer wants.

[torn talon]

Embark it would be nice to
Bring the wheel system back but have it to where it spins for what map we play before the beginning of the game.

[latent niche]

Valid reason to hate fomo:
My dog died....
and I forgot to buy the witchy set when I got my paycheck. now I load up the game and it's gone, I forgot to buy it it in time when I got money because I'm not used to fomo in the finals. now I'm even more sad 😦
....So you missed out on my money and made me sad 😦

[lament depot]

show emerald skins off already... what the hell is taking so long!

[hollow shale]

https://i.imgur.com/dAeJ9Yu.png "your or" rofl !!
it sounds weird ive never seen a sentence written like dis

[solar bone]

Nerf model

[fading yoke]

Defib is still op. 3 medium meta is still the thing after how many seasons? Since release anyway. Model is fucking busted even after nerfs. MP5 is too underpowered. Stungun+invis is still so fucking annoying to play against it made me ragequit and uninstall.
Why does medium get to have all the best guns and gadgets in the whole game? Why is medium out dpssing light even when having the best gadgets? Why is heavy basically useless right now?

FINALLY FUCKING NERF THE DEFIB. It made my whole friend group quit the game because they're sick and tired of every fight being 3 defib clown fiesta where you can just res anyone on top of the whole enemy team and it still works. Picks mean fucking nothing ever when they're deleted by someone holding mouse1 for 0.5s and this happens 3 times per fight. Why play light or heavy when you can just play medium and have the best of everything? Why I have to play completely out of my mind good, hitting every shot to be as valuable to the team as light as medium is basically by holding mouse1 for 0.5s and existing? It's fucking baffling game balance.

Revert the sniper nerf or make it exclusive to power shift if it's so oppressive there. It's stupid that you nerf a gun which already is among the worst guns in the lights kit. I can barely make the gun work and I have basically top 0.1% aim in the world.

[blissful harness]

game freezes. Cant go back to desktop. Cant close the game. Pc freezes. I restart pc. 30min windows updates. I get banned. Fuck your game

[dreamy mirage]

https://youtube.com/clip/UgkxLojdHgE_V0SUgQrp48CHn9Kc__rUf51W?si=HWCQJocAGe6u3jpA this should anwser you, maybe you don't play ranked at all my friend dm me to have plenty of more clips of cheaters in ranked 🙂 dropped from 41k rs to 35k in a day

[modest lotus]

nerf Defib, light DB, and heavy Charge and Slam, then the game will be almost fully balanced

[silent fog]

Please fix performance. How do you expect players when the performance is this bad.

[royal mango]

lol

[tulip steppe]

Game didn’t even give us a third and I still lost RS. W f*cking game.

[reef lichen]

Buff xp Damage to 17-18 so it’s easier to use diamond skin in a month

[wary ice]

Why is it that on pc you can change your contestant during the countdown right before the match starts, but on Xbox you can't? Seems kind of unfair that pc players can see the map and change their contestants accordingly but not console players.

[autumn musk]

You could still clearly fkin see the enemy, tf is there to complain about

[weary pine]

Nerf the god damn model already. Cant play high plat without 90% models. Its boring as hell !

[signal basin]

Read my name.

• Nerf model damage. STILL OP AFTER YOUR "NERF"
• Add an indicator for the frag grenade !
• Nerf a bit damage Deagle
• Reverse XP nerf. Same dmg than a M11 but slower RPM and less bullets. Just useless now. STILL USELESS AFTER YOUR "BUFF"
• Reverse mesh shield nerf
• Nerf Charge'N'Slam. Too much damage.
• Give back the rpm on the V9S but let the damage.
• Buff grapple. Reduce cooldown by 1 sec or add charge.
• If Hook do damage, Stun gun should do. Put damage for both of them or no damage for both of them.
• Reduce the gap between HP class. You can't balance properly a game with so much gap between HP class.
• Nerf the right clic + Dash on Light. You couldn't dash with your sword or dagger charge. Too strong.
• Nerf defib. To strong. It's litteraly the M meta.
• Mates being revive shouldn't tank bullets.
• Patch the level up bug on weapons at the end of matches. It's been here since many months now !
• Kill, Assist, Revive and Objectives points should add more points in ranked even with you lose T1.
• Fix the recoil bug/pattern

More on the game :

• BAN CHEATERS AND TOXIC PLAYER. I'm done of getting insult just because I play Light. Report them do nothing. PERMA BAN ! NOT 7 DAYS
• Sound balance is terrible.
• Do something for the poor matchmaking in ranked.
• Ban cheaters. We need more feedback on our report IG and on Discord.
• Increase the netcode / tickrate / servers ! Or maybe it's lag compensation ?! I'm done getting kill at 3 meters far from a hammer or a sword
• Let us choose our sight weapons at the begining of a game
• Let us go in pratice with friends
• Delete low gravity event. Just the worst even in this game.
• Some event appear in front of the scoreboard. Fix it please
• Random skin and charm list for weapons / gadgets
• Add a TDM mode for warming up.
• We shouldn't lost point in ranked when a team mate leave the squad and didn't play during the round
• Let us invite friends or join them in group even if we are not the leader
• Add the possibility to PM friends in the lobby
• Add the possibility to look at the profil/card of friends
• Let us leave a game without penality if we are only 2 or 1 in the squad !
• Some spawn are still at the opposite of the objective.

I will always post this now and add some changes time to time.

[sharp estuary]

Day#6 Fix the Dual Blades

[dense bay]

I think every single player should post this exact post here every hour

[outer estuary]

What do you exactly want me to do with the dagger if I can't dash? Might as well remove it from the game at that point

[cold glacier]

Hi

[quick coyote]

Wow what the hell? It looks worse then before

[quick coyote]

Pc players have monitors that allow a stationary permanent reticle it's there the whole time and it doesn't move, also visual recoil was cool at first but it's just getting annoying

[white sundial]

Congratulations to EMBARK

Game now real DEAD.

1.Lags
2.Bugs
3.Cheaters
4.Imbalance

I don't understand how you can fuck up such a masterpiece project with your crooked hands.

From the moment of the OBT to the present day, the game has been getting worse. With each subsequent season, bugs appear that never existed. Performance and hit registration are getting worse. Everything has already reached the point where a rating game can be searched for 30 minutes. And at the moment of the peak of online, everyone is thrown onto 1 server in order to somehow assemble a lobby. Congratulations, you fucked up.

[umbral rampart]

I think this game desperately need a free-for-all. Getting constantly matched with people who refuse to work with their team, and are geared towards solo-playing makes having to stay in a game with them miserable. You don't win, and even when you do it doesn't feel great.

FFA also kills two birds with one stone, as people also tend to warm-up with this mode.

[lilac coral]

Hey hey didn’t you see the fashion show game ain’t dead

[dusty igloo]

I truly beg of you, please nerf triple medium as soon as possible, dont wait until next wednesday, just nerf it right now

[upper sundial]

I feel like the sword nerf might've been too aggressive, it's my main and my k:d is typically pretty positive but something about the change is leaving me helpless in all forms in a fight

[timid pagoda]

what the hell?defib is op?it only have 50 damage

[sharp stone]

thats a feature of the monitor itself, not for the pc. u can install external software to have a crosshair all the time but may be against TOS

not 100% but u can connect a console to a monitor with that feature and turn it on in the monitor settings

[feral elm]

Is the hit detection just awful for melee in this game, or are the servers SO BAD that what we're seeing isn't what our enemies see ? I just got hit from SO FAR AWAY, clearly outside the range of the spear.

[olive fulcrum]

Kyoto is THE buzzkill map.

[fierce valve]

Please add Solo Bank It back to private matches day 9 or something

[daring musk]

why didnt i get any tickets for the wheel when i did my dailys?

[wary shuttle]

why are there no tickets today?

[sharp estuary]

Nerf light

[shy token]

As we can all see, THE FINALS' community is deeply passionate when it comes to concept art and making drip. Earlier this year we saw the switch away from exclusive bundle pricing to individual items now being made available for purchase. This alone allowed a great amount of customisation and personalisation of the game. But @shy token is back this time to argue the case for community driven input.

By allowing the community to create fan-made concepts and outfits using available items, TF has allowed its community to creatively flourish. However, we think, and there are others who have considered this idea as well within the community, that new community made items should be given the chance to be official and in-game.

This would not be the first time that such a thing exists in the world of gaming. Warframe's 'TennoGen' is one of the best examples of having the community be involved in the creative process. This engagement's potential is virtually limitless and invaluable for the game's longevity and community. It can be further sustained by giving the creator(s) a chance to be awarded through a variety of ways, in combination or merely by themselves:
(a) recognition,
(b) in-game or IRL payment,
(c) but most importantly a free (perhaps personalised) version of the very same item that will be immortalised in the world of TF.
(DAY 80)

[sharp bolt]

Revert damage to the Xp 54. Or at least explain why you buffed range on a freaking SMG. that was not needed. It is literally a slower m11 now with more range (horrible)

[quick coyote]

That's not the point reticles don't work like that irl they're not attached to the glass they're projected on the glass an 99% of the time are almost perfectly centered to your eyes, it'd be a huge quality of life change

[topaz crow]

I have an idea, since the VRs are lock at 5,000 and we are all contestant fighting for money (based on the lore of the game), I think Embark could make a money-harvest mechanism, for quick cash a maximum ammount of money you can win is 20,000. That money could be "transfer" into your account, so we could buy... skin, equipment, cosmetic and everything (of course a lot of millions for a skin, charm, cosmetic, etc...). That doesn't mean Multibuck is useless. But Multibuck is Multibucks it could buy a lot of more beautiful skin. Take example for Ranked and World Tour, the money you could earn if you win is huge, but it depend on your team performance through progression and could trigger a "two-cashboxes-in-one-cash-out". More combat, more fun. And maybe the sponsors could really found "oh this team of these contestants have something on their performances" They could grand more.... money for their performance through daily contract....

[smoky sluice]

remove bamboo farm map

[ionic hound]

can we like, revert the spawn changes from the implemented this season. close spawning on a cash out after every wipe kinda ruins some skill elements of the game. not fun to have to wipe the same team 5+ times on the same cashout lol

[lofty rivet]

Can we please get good servers, ping is atrocious, also separate regions for NA West and NA East like most games please, i get a lot more ping in West and makes the game unplayable, so no ranked because i will be automatically throwing, and WT will be frustrating as hell

[lament surge]

nerf the model

[quick coyote]

The bonus pages and sponsor pages are way too grindy.

[dusky parcel]

Seriously... sick of dying to my own pyro nades or grappling a tree and getting stuck between 2 bamboo sticks

[dark niche]

xbox / ps5 crossplay matchmaking only.

[cold glacier]

Anyone is there

[mild ruin]

nerf fucking 1887

[peak bluff]

I just looked at the new weekly update why does the ddeagle gets new animation and skin but light doesnt even have one set of animation and no good slins for the new shotgun

[brittle obsidian]

light is embark's favorite according to the community, while they casually forget about the 90 trillion unique AK and lewis skins

[twin burrow]

Ngl I really think they would add cars to the game

[rose basin]

footsteps dont make enough noise, and invis doesnt either

[ebon sequoia]

Play everyday to get maximum tickets, 18/20 and get doubles all the time . This is BS

[unreal fossil]

Kyoto is unsurprisingly the worst rated map of all.

[pseudo leaf]

I think glitch nades are weak after all the shield nerfs. Maybe make it have more radius and duration or make it detonate when it gets close to a enemy for counter the defibs.

[sharp stone]

So you're main concern is about the visual recoil. then why include message about pc players getting a stationary crosshair when that isn't your main focus and its through the use of external means.

if we go back to your original message, you are saying that recoil is too much for console. You have the aim assist to help with that. There are controller streamers and youtube videos where they are lasering with the guns. Join their communities, ask questions for their settings and play around with what works for you

[rare warren]

Crossplay with PC is killing console players

[gloomy jasper]

NERF THE GODAMN SHOTGUN OF THE MEDUIM PLEASE

[rapid rover]

You guys really need to add kill cams so we can easily see if someone is cheating or not, and improve your anti cheat because your game sits like old rust servers for console
And BUFF THE REVOLVER I MEAN WTF

[restive crescent]

where can i vote this, or see all the map results?

[unreal fossil]

Here: https://forms.gle/khsWQfWYX9pzpnzA6

It's just a form I made. But anyone has access to the results after answering (if it works as it's supposed to)

[celest aurora]

stop hatin on kyoto 🗣️

[civic orchid]

They ended yesterday now you gotta buy the rest of the rewards

[dim kettle]

The sword nerf was way overtuned. I understand lunge distance reduction but the hit cone is just awful now, you keep driving by people and it looks like ur hitting but ur just out empty with no damage very consistently. hardly usable now unless ur facing literal bots

[wary shuttle]

for me it says the wheel event ends tommorow

[sharp stone]

the event ended but the wheel is there for people to use their tickets

[halcyon lagoon]

I believe we should make leaving a game more punishable. The amount of games in solo queue where people just leave because the game isn’t going their way is ridiculous. And I’m not talking about people who crash. Those people are ok. But people who just rage quit in the game is outstandingly outrageous at some points. I’ve had some moments where my whole team will just leave, and I’ll be there alone… against 3 other teams……

I feel the punishment for leaving should be greater. For example, maybe give players a timer of when they can play there next match, but the timer will get longer and longer the more the person leaves. So, if I person keeps leaving and leaves a game. They would have to wait 8 minutes or longer depending on how many times they have left games. This penalty can be countered by just simply reconnecting to the game. Or another way could be to just give a harsher penalty to people who leave. Like a rank down or not gain EXP the next round. All I know is that something does need to change or else the leaving problem will just keep persisting and won’t go away.

[bold silo]

I am talking here as Plat 3-4 player currently

Heavy is balanced
Medium needs nerf of model dmg and defib needs longer cooldown
Light needs overall buff for all weapons except maybe uzi - 10-20 hp up or buff to all weapons

That means sniper buff, bow buff, sword reverse nerf

[quick coyote]

@sharp stone your probably a pc player. aim assist isn't aimbot. Let's just get that straight. First of all it's about visual fatigue this is for pc and console, it's annoying and draining with all the movement, and I was asking for a quality of life update to something that I find annoying. I find it unfair that pc players can use a monitor that, or a 3rd party software that allows a cross hair on their screen at all times meanwhile the sights bounces on the screen un realistically. We need a lazer or a rework of the reticles cause its annoying. Your ignorant and I'm pretty sure your baiting. Quit bothering me with the thought process to everything is perfect

@worn barn go to gameplay and turn use team colors on

[worn barn]

My friend has a bug on pc where all of his enemy team colors are red and restarting the game doesn’t fix it. Is there any fix for this?

[rustic spire]

It's a setting.

[hollow breach]

[quartz dirge]

Turn off team color settings and turn it back on

[crystal swan]

Hey, I was wondering if Ray Recontruction will find its way to The Finals in the future? Looks great in this UE5 demo
https://tenor.com/view/ue5-rayrecontruction-matrix-comparison-gif-2406582620177548076

[frank jungle]

I wish embark would stop making circut contracts where you need headshots

[blissful harness]

🤓

[fading pelican]

The recent contracts/challenges, I feel, gave more incentive to leave games not going their way (i.e. not gonna fulfill their contract, etc.) This is why I hate "win" challenges/contracts and other specific contracts.
On that note, I think they should allow us to change/remove the contract about "interrupting steals x 10" because I remember I also left a Terminal Attack game because the possibility of interrupting decryption was gone. Ngl, I'd rather a contract/challenge say play 10 Terminal Attack rounds.
I really wish the devs give us a chance to remove a contract/challenge we can't complete OR use VRs to fill the contract requirements (however small each point in the contract can be filled, we can work toward it without feeling the time we play is wasted).
But I aint gonna hold my breath for Embark devs this time around. They've been letting me down recently.

[steep crag]

Frags should be louder or something. If I don't visually see one they are basically undetectable

[pliant raptor]

100k XP is freaking ludicrous for the bonus rewards, idk what they're smoking

[verbal bane]

Revered, ne, beloved Embark Devs,

How are we supposed to have a "drip contest" without a proper Photo Mode?

Please, please, please allow us a Photo Mode ala Cyberpunk 2077 with control over pose/env/lighting/camera so as to show off the amazing drip.

Signed,

Adversarial Dress-Up Fan

[analog wolf]

what was the harm in letting people earn 6 more tickets before wheel ends? you get duplicates 90% of the time anyway... I'm 2 items away and its gonna cost 700c and don't wanna do that. I get that its f2p but god damn season one was so good with the in season events and getting thrown a bone every now and then cosmetic wise.. EMBARK L

[autumn garnet]

Level selector required, like pick three you don't want to go on or something at least.

[unreal fossil]

This. I spent hours in CP2077 Photomode. Even made pose packs for it last year. This would be so cool in The Finals ! Being able to access maps with friends to take pictures would be fun. Could also help promote the game !

[terse slate]

Solo Q Ranked is a freakshow.. there should be personal points and not the same points for the whole team..

[proven parcel]

My tickets have been glitched all week lol. W fomo. Embark stinks \

[quick coyote]

Pleas Embark delete visual recoil and add a more satisfying realistic approach to reticle recoil oh and give us the ability to change the reticles color

[fading pelican]

Just a request:
Can we have data on how many games affected by leavers every time there is a new set of Contracts/Challenges? A continuing transparency of sort? I think we should see the data and how games are affected by bad rule-making of Embark.
I beg the devs to play their own game and try to do what they're making the players do. get some perspective, please.
I get that you may be busy with Arc Raiders, but it ain't gonna matter once your cred drops because of the recent handling of The Finals (if you even see/read the comments we make here). Give us options, an out - ex. for that contract badly written as "interrupt" when it means "eliminate". It's partially your fault anyway for bad writing, so give us an option to change that even with 5000 VR so we have something to do with it and a sense of freedom/liberty is restored to us (even if in a roundabout way).
Show some respect (or at least human decency).

[shy mural]

I still don't understand how this incompetent idiot in charge of your balancing is still employed. The man single handedly doing everything to murder this beautiful game into the ground. This constant nerfing of mediums and heavies and fcked up overpowered state of lights is disgusting.

Just quit man, for the love of god. Revert all of your nonsense to season 2 state and then quit. Let someone competent handle it.

[quick coyote]

XD

[boreal wagon]

Genuinely just knock down the damage on the model or make the spread way bigger I'm so tired of getting one tapped at 25m range

[hearty venture]

Why am I getting one teammate in ranked and WHY am I still being seeded highly plus losing points when I inevitably lose because we're always at a disadvantage

[stuck barn]

Wheel spins challenges shouldve gone until today, I demand compensation

[dusty igloo]

Those pesky lights

[bleak geode]

I would like a sight for the 93R if possible.