#šŸ‘‚ā”‡game-feedback

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violet elbow
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please buff the LH1 even more I already didnt want to use any other light gun anyway

elfin badge
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make crossbody and badge items not mesh together?

rose nacelle
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This is TA Ranked.
This didn't happen in the previous Ranked.

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sonic raft
forest pollen
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LH1 is way too overtuned

quick niche
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I was trying to play world tour but my game crashed and now i have matchmaking suspension so i would really like the ability to comeback to a ranked game if you get kicked out for whatever reason pretty please

proven lantern
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Game chat for consoles when?

stray rampart
next monolith
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Even if everybody complains about ranked (even me), i want to say something positive : the battle pass is crazy, the new map as well, thank u embark for new content and hard working on season 3 namaheart

drifting glacier
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this game balancing is a joke. it makes the game experience horrible. heavy just to strong

misty jasper
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Cuz it was op af lol

shy walrus
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Fool proof solution:
Terminal Attack
ā€¢ Remove TA ranked
ā€¢ Keep TA as a casual game mode
ā€¢ Remove the forced 5 games of TA
Cashout
ā€¢ Increase the cash reward for killing a player in cashout from $200 to $1,000
ā€¢ Put Cashout back as Ranked.
ā€¢ Have World Tour be all game modes (one per week)

Increasing the kill reward in Cashout would mean that people could play it as a tdm OR Cashout that we know.
I think this would also decrease the amount of 3rd partying because there would be less of an incentive to go for the cashout.
A team that wants to go for cashouts will have a very defensive build and would be hard for the TDM offensive build to push.
But people would still try and get the cashouts because they would be a free $10k, $15k or $22k.

This would also make HHM less oppressive because it's a defensive comp based around holding an objective.

night spruce
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The new map is open and the hills make you can easy target, and the map is way to big

indigo forge
hard badger
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Thank you devs for the amazing content, the map looks very beautiful and is fun to play on.
BEST GAME EVER!
Also thank you for buffing weapons and nerfing all what was needed, good job!
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ancient basin
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Ranked TA is literally just sonar spam + LH1

ivory meadow
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neww mode is so anoyinng

solemn burrow
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BUFF RIOT SHIELD

tropic coral
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New mode is good, I like it. I wish though that the maps were smaller (boxed in) and please nerf lh1. Lastly do something if you can about the 5 stack lights I mean as a medium main itā€™s almost unplayable with al 10 sonar nades

crystal umbra
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ANOTHER FREE IDEAā€¼ļø

Asset flip Sys Horizon & Kyoto:

Both of those maps have been effected by CNS, now it's time to show us what both of those maps should have been.
A modern Kyoto
&
A fully loaded Sys Horizon (whatever the real name will be)

Instead of having to make a map from scratch we can asset flip those ones and give us one ((or both)) either in a mid season patch or for a new season.

Yes some of the fans won't like that, but I imagine that would allow for some time to pour some more resources and manpower into other aspects of the game for a while.

Thank you for your consideration šŸš€

slender oasis
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The game needs a much more in depth tutorial for situations that people will face. I see some people stare cross eye'd at a wall in tougher situations not knowing what to do for the most basic of stuff. Could also add incentive for completing more advanced tutorials like skins or multibucks.

untold cypress
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@drifting glacier everything that made heavy a good pick has been nerfed multiple times... heavy is just melee/flamethrower class now... stop trying to fist fight heavies

upper citrus
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embark please use the same gold for everything

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fleet trellis
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ALRIGH, ALRIGHT, ALRIGHT HEAR ME OUT !!!!! @pearl kiln

What if... Terminal attack.... Have his own game ! Outside The Finals !!!
I mean, hey listen. You have the concept (the finals), with destruction and commentary ! What if Terminal attack have his own game, with his own commentator own destruction, own balances etc ?

civic thistle
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nerf snipers they're so annoying to play against

regal moss
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The bow on pc against console isnā€™t fair

worldly scaffold
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IF you reload, and heavy winches you, your gun gets stuck, can't reload, or shoot, happened to me twice with ak now. Also, nerf knives, and LH1, remove sniper = better game (sorry Lights, nothing personal).

storm siren
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a youtuber made a really good point on how to fix cashout.
Reward players more money around 1-5k per kill while defending and maybe even attacking a cashout,
so even if they get 3rd partied they have still been rewarded through defense kills while holding a cashout.

A annoying part is holding a cashout killing off 2 even 3 teams and come and get 3rd partied last second and lose and you got nothing for defending the whole time and the work went into holding for a team to come thru last second and get all the reward.

Reward defending a point by adding the value of cash you get for kills so that it is a significance. ($100 per kill means nothing)
This will make some players think twice on pushing a team for the risk of giving them money if they lose the fight.
will incintivse strategy when pushing and more team focus.

dry steeple
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Why does the Right click on Dual blades feel like a worse version of Riot shield? its so inconsistent that i dont know if i even should use them at all cause sometimes they work fine and the match right after i become a sitting duck and every single hit gets right through the "defensive stance"

warm compass
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buff the sheild dome and the sheild . weapons now stronger

brittle harness
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I don't think i can resist much longer in this status of the game, i'm seriously thinking to quit

sudden spire
north thunder
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5 TA matches for new players is by far the worst decision embark has ever made.

Like imagine you only heard about the finals now, so you see a bunch of really hype fast paced trailers and gameplay and clips of people doing cool shit in the game

Then you install it and you get forced into a mode where you have to wait ages before you actually get to play, then you run in and probably get one shot by a light or some shit

You have one class unlocked, can't change any of your gear, and you get to play for like a minute once every 3-ish minutes

And if someone leaves, the match gets cancelled.

Stupid awful decision, guys. It's a nice mode, but pushing it onto new players? I'd just quit immediately.

astral dust
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the state of the game is trash. unplayable. not even talking about TA, jut the buffs to the light are crazy. not fun to play

worn tapir
proper lion
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TA is a terrible game mode and shouldnt be the ranked mode in the first place, but if its not changed can you at least remove the loadout selection phase between each round, the pacing of the mode is painfully slow

shut bronze
jade matrix
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please remove the snipers from ranked, it's straight up only lights with snipers, this meta isn't fun

vapid pine
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We need ranked cashout back

viral ferry
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Is there skill based matchmaking in this game?

topaz swallow
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PLEASE FOR THE LOVE OF GOD MAKE A MASSIVE OPTIMIZATION PATCH, IM SO DONE WITH LAG

quick coyote
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NERF LH1

digital plover
sonic raft
quick coyote
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ranked terminal attack is so bad, these maps are made for cahsout not terminal attack

shy walrus
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fix elo

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jolly aurora
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This game is so cancerous right now. It's just heavys with shields and hooks while one medium heals in Cashout. Or TA where it's Lights just cloaking and LH1 everyone 2 seconds out of spawn

vapid crystal
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can you uncensor "lmao" in text chat? I have a tendence to end my messages with it and it saying "* * * *" looks so bad haha

elfin badge
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why have i had zero success with winch claw yet everytime an oppenent has it.. instant death for me. imma say it before anyone else... skill issue

sharp jasper
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Medium swords don't properly parry Melee attacks, the animation shows, and it shows the hit marker on the enemy but it doesn't do any damage

jade dragon
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3 games pure lights in ranked good job embark šŸ‘

hard badger
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thank you for the free 150 multibucks and famas we all got in our spam folder from embark xD. Make sure there is no blank space before and behind the code if you copy paste it, otherwise the code will be seen as unvalid.

onyx ruin
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This games ranked mode has become nothing but lights. If you are heavy or medium you just get ran down by skinnys with cloak (that regens so they can just terroize the shit out of you) or dash or you just get 2 shot by lh1 or sniper pls devs stop making these horrible decisions for something that wasnt even bad

untold cypress
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Why does a recurve bow outclass light machine guns at range?!

wanton lagoon
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pls buff LH1

green geode
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Can we please get ranked cashout back. U got ur days of testing no one likes TA , its not the reason we play the finals.
And revert the LH1 recoil change gun needs 0 skill to use now and its way too strong.

crystal umbra
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So, going from 20,000 players to 30,000 players is a +50% increase in player count.

It's a long way from the initial peak and I want this game to succeed so bad. We're going in the right direction. Marketing wise & content wise.

The only other thing I really want you guys to do is FUCK UP THE META

I repeat: RUIN THE STATE OF NORMAL in this game every three months.

Drop new overpowered weapons at the beginning of each season and balance them mid season.

Apart of the interest day one fans had was how interesting the gameplay was & the new wepons they had to form play styles around.

I'll give the developers some grace because it seems like counterplay, strategy, & gameplay loop seem to be a big part of things here.

But for an early game maybe we just need more people in the arena first testing out the tools & weapons then we refine stuff.

I'm looking at the charts (I'm sure they don't have all of the information)

But when we get back above 40,000 the game will blow up.

Thanks for your consideration šŸš€

upper citrus
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how in the world did you manage to make the lh1 even stronger

obsidian timber
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Game feels SUPER unbalanced. I feel like running mediums is worthless at this point unless you heal the whole time, and Lights are absolutely OVERPOWERED. Please balance the game

elder folio
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Make customization based on load outs and outfits, not contestants. So when you load into a game, you pick a build, load out, and outfit, or use your normal one that you set. Infinite load out and outfit slots, and you can create custom outfits or use the ones you can buy in the store as is. Either that, or just give infinite contestant slots I don't see a reason for them to be limited, esp with the influx of new toys

neon terrace
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Hey guys, have anyone discussed optimization problems the game has right now after the update?

My game became pretty laggy and I wonder if its popular issue

steep sigil
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ADD Solo Bank It to the public playlists

delicate yoke
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Fix the bug where you get stuck in loading screen. Super annoying when playing world tour having to restart the game every time this happens.

idle thistle
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powershift ranked > TA ranked

midnight dock
umbral pebble
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Not even a tweet about the Nvidia Drop Event?

worldly scaffold
ember island
astral dust
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STOP LETTING THE HR DESIGN THE GAME AND HIRE GAME DESIGNERS

brittle obsidian
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This might be the worst meta in the history of the finals. Sonars are so huge it might as well be budget recon senses, and LH1 is a total failure of game balance.

jagged cedar
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me when I buff the best gun in the game

sacred hawk
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The Lewis Gun is unusable right now, the damage nerf was too much

celest nimbus
slate tapir
hardy bridge
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add harsher penalites for leavers in world tour and ranked

wise cliff
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why won't you enable private tournaments embark, half of the reason why large streamers won't play your game is because it's supposed to be a tournament and they can't host their own tournaments in game, instead they have to set it up themselves only using cashout or quick cash
@astral dust friendly reminder that 2/3rds of Embark's talent are busy doing arc raiders
@gray linden World Tour definitely plays more seriously than og casual tourneys because people do want to get the multibucks but still people don't take it as seriously as they took ranked tournament. It plays like a softer ranked

wheat frigate
quick coyote
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embark i love you guys but this is corporate su*cide

gray linden
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Im still beside myself with these changes. world tour is now just a cesspool of absolute trash playing a "casual mode". you have absolutely gutted the thing that made me come back for hundreds of hours. like wtf? why are you catering to the lowest common denomenator of player?

@wise cliff : im well aware WHAT it is and its terrible and unplayable. I WANT LONG FUN FIGHTS NOT BE BAITED BY A TRASHCAN CONTROLLER PLAYER WITH A BOW ALL GAME.

burnt horizon
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Please optimize the game. This last patch has absolutely destroyed cpu performance for me. Also will vulkan be a renderer option in the future? :3333

scenic spade
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day 4 of asking Embark to bring back cashout ranked and old ranked system

abstract ridge
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Just appease the masses and change it back, Embark. You know what Iā€™m talking aboutā€¦

faint saddle
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Some Feedback:

Light:

  • Revive Speed: Buff revive speed. I've been asking for this for a long time now. Making it 1 second shorter would increase their team viability immensely. Heavies can barricade/bubble in place to revive, and mediums use their magic cables, while lights need to run a marathon to find a safe space to avoid a random one-shot.

  • BOW: Very nice, not too strong. Maybe should have very slight inaccuracies mid-air like throwing knives.

  • BUG: Bow is visible during revive, obscuring vision.

  • 3rd Person Bow Walk Animation: Very weird and could use some tweaks.

  • Sonar Grenade: Needs a nerf to the detection range.

  • LH1: Too strong in every way possible, needs nerfs, especially for terminal attack.

  • Thermal Bore: Should have area damage, collision/passthrough with enemy players, and deal around 40 damage. Also, it should have a 10-20% larger explosion.

Medium:

  • Dual Blades: Underwhelmingly weak. Needs damage buffs to primary attack and give medium a slight move speed buff. You cannot chase other mediums as you are the same speed. Maybe a 3-7% faster running speed to compensate for having no dash or invis cloak.

Heavy:

  • Claw: Should have a better visual for when you get hooked. Soft red borders/hooked display to clearly showcase lost control.
  • Claw needs slight nerfs to when what side of the grappled person can move and stun duration, etc.

Kyoto:
No complaints. Love the map and aesthetics. Was hoping for a 2200 version, aka hyperfuturistic Kyoto (even though Syshorizon covers that). Otherwise, super.

Events:

  • Low Gravity Event: Lasts too long and happens WAY too often in the last minutes of the match, making the game unplayable as melee. Getting beamed when you jump once.

Killfeed:

  • Should display enemy kills and cause of deaths. I often get 3rd-partied and want to know which team did it.

Team Damage:

  • I've been dying to team damage way too often recently as a sword player, dying to my team's gas and fire. Give friendly hazards a slightly longer damage time to begin. For example, make us cough more often or similar so we take less team damage.

Grenade Indicator:

  • Add a grenade indicator. Grenades are fine; I am okay with eating a whole grenade here and there, but sometimes you just donā€™t hear them in all the chaos. I want to see where they are roughly.

Miscellaneous:

  • Lobby Music Selection Options: When?
  • Skins for Gadgets and Items: Can we get some skins for gadgets and items that donā€™t have any yet? (Looking at Gateway [Portal gun you throw?], Pyro [Molotov], and Stun Gun [barcode scanner skin]).
quick coyote
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Platinum 4+ remove Individual Performance. A prime example is VALORANT removing it too because a role like Cypher solo holding would always gain less elo compared to Jett, which is the same issue this new ranked system has too. Right now we have to wipe a team except 1, wait for them to key, then share the defuse with whoever isn't fragging as much because of their build/role. Having to elo max is not good gameplay, base it on opposition's elo and rounds win/loss only.

amber notch
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guys please give us more loadouts or a way to save Outfits as favorite and being able To swap them out, i want to buy more skins so i need at least 12 loadouts

elfin badge
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we can only hope, cause i kinda suck apparently šŸ˜›

split parcel
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There is almost no incentive to play medium other than heal gun

keen girder
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Servers down? Canā€™t connect to any mode.

wild jolt
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Maybe do something with the leavers..

ivory pewter
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Terminal Attack sucks, World tour as well, bring back ranked cashouts please

raven gale
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Nobody wants to play terminal attack for ranked what kind of joke is this? The game mode sucks

brave jacinth
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LH1 didnt need a damage buff, or at least needs falloff I dunno

sonic raft
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Limit the number of gadgets per team of one type. Like, they shouldn't all be able to run healing beam and just spam it in rotation to negate your damage. The opposing team should not be able to run 3 turrets, etc.

untold cypress
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@sacred hawk the M60 is even worse... I already have multiple clips of me unloading on a heavy from 20-30 ft away and the heavy just runs straight through the bullets to Cave my skull inšŸ„²

slow wind
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Remove terminal attack mode as a whole or just let it rot in casuals

teal minnow
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Double blades should have a longer range

obsidian timber
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Take off the ability to hold the power swing and dash for the light.. completely broken

somber sleet
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terminal attack is to long

crisp raven
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F you devs. For real. Keep nerfing the mediums. Make everyone else stronger. You gave the mediums dual swords. No one uses them cause they are worthless and so are you

civic thistle
sand sail
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embark killing the game tho, so, how can u remove the unique thing never seen in fps just to replace it with more of the same wich is TA. @maximus so u want to change the whole game isntead of just reverting the decision

onyx ruin
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Im trying to continue to support these devs. Im trying to continue to play the game. but nah dude this fat L. kYOTO IS NOT A GOOD MAP

proper barn
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Embark you need to remove builds to be able to balance this game, specifically for ranked. Just make everyone medium with 250hp but you can select any gadget or specialization, that way you can balance and tune guns and equipment without it having a knock on effect because of the unique build differences such as HP and Speed. There is no class specific skins or anything so I don't see how this would be a problem. If any metas formed due to the specializations from heavy or light being on medium, you would have the opportunity to balance them accordingly and bring variety to builds.

signal dew
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massive L for removing cashout from casual it was the best gamemode why on earth was it removedšŸ¤¦ā€ā™‚ļø

unique nimbus
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Kyoto is 2nd best map so far, just please fix vaulting as it's very inconsistent on that map. You'll go to a window and 10% change you'll just jump on the spot not actually vaulting through

hollow dune
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I feel like people with no ranked shouldn't be going against anyone who has a rank šŸ¤·ā€ā™‚ļø

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rocky verge
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Give the paper in the paper doors more hp, make it take more bullets for them to disappear, the holes look really cool

cinder gull
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remove terminal attack

strange slate
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remove terminal attack

pseudo flame
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remove terminal attack

quick coyote
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bring back cashout ranked for the love of all

chrome merlin
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Please stop forcing kioto down my throat, I played it 4 times in a row and its absolutely terrible for my meele playstyle. So just let me play other maps. I understand you slightly increase the probability of it appearing, but this is not great for new players who then think there is only one map in the game (playing quickcash)

placid sentinel
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remove terminal attack

devout quail
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Bring back old ranked, buff the new weaposn a bit and please why would you breing the CL40 an already bad weapon to its knees šŸ˜¢
Coming from a CB1 player

sage blade
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Anybody know why I cant redeem my twitch drop even though its already connected? Even after I connect my ps account it still says that i need to connect my account

echo spire
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Why no heavey weapon love? Most heaveyā€™s weapons skins arent that cool compared to light and medium plus please make tournament mode have a ranked mode with prizes i miss ild ranked pleaseeeeeee

vapid pine
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Bring back ranked cashout

prisma harbor
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Please bring back ranked cashout

winter lily
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Who thinks throwing knives are too op?

worldly scaffold
olive fulcrum
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Yeah, right. And imagine what state the game is going to be in 3 months from now (time for S4). Are they really going to make sweeping changes to revert their 'twisted TA experiment'?

I'd be for it, but that kind of enormous shake-up makes a lot of people upset. oi....

The silver-lining of this for now is that I will have less of my free-time taken up by The Finals so I can play other games on my backlog.

sacred cypress
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Having to play almost 3 hours of TA for being placed is ridiculous. Who even signed that its okay to have a BO13 mothernessnotokay i think it was enough how it was in S2. But this is becoming a chore inkling_sadcat a best of 9 would have been the absolute maximum and still enough.

Uh boi embark, you gotta work a few extra hours here in the next patches pkmnsquirtlederp namaheart

hazy shore
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can we buff other parts of heavy and make the rpg not do 140 dmg? its basically a secondary weapon 99% of the time

haughty niche
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remove low graw

crystal umbra
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Seems like the light class is meta this season.

Last season it was HHM in diamond ranks

grave fox
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I play Light and ran Sonar before S3, and I think it [Sonar] was good then - the current buff to the range feels overkill, I don't think it was needed personally. Buffing the recharge speed instead or something would have been preferable if the numbers and metrics weren't lining up to expectations perhaps? Just my 2c.

violet matrix
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The game is great, in fact it became my favorite shooter, but since they abuse the Cl-40 and now the double swords it no longer makes me want to play, it has become absurd, unfortunately I will stop playing it and they will have a player less

upper citrus
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Spend more than 1 season when you make ranked 4.0 please. No game should need this many iterations of a ranked system

dreamy charm
worn horizon
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The heavys new hook can grab everything, it should not hook riotshield/dual blades when blocking

raven gale
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Remove terminal attack

viral cipher
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please i beg do something about terminal attack. I don't want to see the game die after such an amazing update just because they fumbled this one part of the update. Sure they added cashouts into the World Tour, but I feel like there was a seperate level of competetiveness that made it so fun before, and it just doesnt feel the same anyomore

brittle obsidian
next stream
quick coyote
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Nerf the LH1

lunar pendant
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for the love of god remove terminal attack from ranked and bring back cashout yall literally designed the entire game to be played in the cashout mode it makes no sense to suddenly pivot to being a counter strike clone

candid belfry
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SORT OUT YOUR RANKED TERMINAL ATTACK IT IS FULL OF CHEATERS

acoustic storm
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I really don't get why people are arguing so much about light being too weak or too strong.
Light is pretty damn strong, but people are just bad.

First of all cudos to Embark, light is by far the most fun and engaging class to play as. A very large loadout. A lot of fun and different weapons. And the specializations all have their place. (Allthough the grappling hook is kinda weird)

The Problem with light is not that some weapons are busted (bow, knives, LH1, Sword), it is that light is just extremely unfun and "unfair" to play against.

If you kill a light you do so because the player was bad, was forced to enter a bad position, you were using some cheese like the RPG or you got the drop on them.
And that is the point of the light class. Light is not supposed to fight fair and square battles in an open field. Light is designed to get picks from unsuspecting opponents.

Thats also the reason why most light players suck. They don't get that they can't just run into a full team and expect to survive. And yet here are people complaining that light needs more HP.
For those people that play/have played League of Legends. Asking for that is the same as wanting assassins to build bruiser/tank items and still wipe whole teams. Laughs in tank ekko.

No one wants tanky assassins. If you die to an assassin it is completely your fault, you were out of position or the enemy was just better. Complaining about it won't make you better.

On the other hand I don't get why light is receiving so many buffs to its weapons. Light already has by far the most utility heavy and strongest gadgets.

  • Enemy team is camping and healing? Throw a glitch grenade.
  • Enemy has abilities which could be a hindrance? Throw a glitch grenade.
  • Want to flank the enemy? Get invisible or use your outstanding mobility.
  • Get caught off guard? Just get away with your mobility.
    If one doesn't use their toolkit, they shouldn't complain.

Yes, Light is in a difficult spot in high elo( Cashout, not TA). But the Problem imo is that HMM HHM is just way easier to pull off. The margin for error on light in high elo is just really thin. And this gets even harder with the existence of the RPG.
On that note, the RPG is just really stupid in its damage concept. I get that it will always deal a minimum amount of damage, so that it has some form of consistency. But this is just unfair. The RPG has a huge explosion radius, if you get somewhat hit by that as light, which you always will, even with dash, you will loose >50% of your hp, even tho you reacted in time. If you get hit with it in the face, you deserve it, since you were out of position.
Just remove the minimum damage, this will also be a QOL buff for the heavy since the self damage on an explosion 5m away will be much less. ATM this will basically kill you, approx 200 Damage at the edge of the explosion.

feral mirage
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Remove Terminal Attack

keen breach
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I just want ranked cashout, I wanted to go for top 500 this season but i cant be fucked with TA being the game mode. Its not nearly as fun and it feels like such a slog.

paper gale
brave jacinth
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Lights got no nerfs other than a longer cooldown for breach charge. Made the marksman rifle do more damage and made range better (Looking to be the most dominant light weapon so far) , added a new high damage range weapon on top of the sniper, and a gadget to blow open holes in walls. Then made the health regen faster than everyone elses even when they have the smallest health pool to regen? What is going on embark. Heavy gets a ton of nerfs other than pumping a shotgun faster and a sledgehammer animation? YOU NERF THE DAMAGE OF HEAVY'S TWO MAIN WEAPONS??? Are we trying to brick heavies from playing and turn them into shields forced to use RPG for every kill? What. is. going. on. Even the new winch has already been nerfed. I dont even care for it man. Wth Embark.

quick coyote
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Monkey mask heheheheeh monke šŸ¦§

night dune
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The nvidia weapon charm is available for one day only? is that real

faint saddle
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Some Feedback:

Light:

Revive Speed: Buff revive speed. I've been asking for this for a long time now. Making it 1 second shorter would increase their team viability immensely. Heavies can barricade/bubble in place to revive, and mediums use their magic cables, while lights need to run a marathon to find a safe space to avoid a random one-shot.

BOW: Very nice, not too strong. Maybe should have very slight inaccuracies mid-air like throwing knives.
BUG: Bow is visible during revive, obscuring vision.
3rd Person Bow Walk Animation: Very weird and could use some tweaks.
Sonar Grenade: Needs a nerf to the detection range.
LH1: Too strong in every way possible, needs nerfs, especially for terminal attack.
Thermal Bore: Should have area damage, collision/passthrough with enemy players, and deal around 40 damage. Also, it should have a 10-20% larger explosion.

Medium:

Dual Blades: Underwhelmingly weak. Needs damage buffs to primary attack and give medium a slight move speed buff. You cannot chase other mediums as you are the same speed. Maybe a 3-7% faster running speed to compensate for having no dash or invis cloak.

Heavy:

Claw: Should have a better visual for when you get hooked. Soft red borders/hooked display to clearly showcase lost control.
Claw needs slight nerfs to when what side of the grappled person can move and stun duration, etc.

Kyoto:
No complaints. Love the map and aesthetics. Was hoping for a 2200 version, aka hyperfuturistic Kyoto (even though Syshorizon covers that). Otherwise, super.

Events:

Low Gravity Event: Lasts too long and happens WAY too often in the last minutes of the match, making the game unplayable as melee. Getting beamed when you jump once.

Killfeed:

Should display enemy kills and cause of deaths. I often get 3rd-partied and want to know which team did it.

Team Damage:

I've been dying to team damage way too often recently as a sword player, dying to my team's gas and fire. Give friendly hazards a slightly longer damage time to begin. For example, make us cough more often or similar so we take less team damage.

Grenade Indicator:

Add a grenade indicator. Grenades are fine; I am okay with eating a whole grenade here and there, but sometimes you just donā€™t hear them in all the chaos. I want to see where they are roughly.

Miscellaneous:

Lobby Music Selection Options: When?
Skins for Gadgets and Items: Can we get some skins for gadgets and items that donā€™t have any yet? (Looking at Gateway [Portal gun you throw?], Pyro [Molotov], and Stun Gun [barcode scanner skin]).

yes i copy pastad my own message for people who read this far i want this to get read

honest zenith
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Throwing knives didn't need a buff :c

gray flare
#

my friend just spent five minutes staring at a loading screen before getting kicked from the match and now they have a ten minute comp ban. dude. what the fuck

zinc laurel
#

Whatever nerf they did to the Throwing knives, it sure didn't fix the main issue wich is, its dealing way too much damage and you can just hold mouse 1 and win...
Before anyone comments on it, Yes, I did a run just to confirm that I wasnt being salty, the amount of times I should've lost but somehow won was speaking for itself.

You have the advantage of never having to reload, You can legit just wait for the moment they gotta and immediately fuck them over. Perhaps Embark's biggest issue is that they don't know how to balance Lights well and instead of giving the class survivability, they resort to giving them busted damage Lmao

sonic raft
#

I want limited loadout playlists again. It was nice being forced to experiment in new ways with weapons. And the limitations meant you knew what you might expect.

shy walrus
#

fix elo

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halcyon perch
jade dragon
#

Ranked is so shit now, what the fuck are you guys doing at the office?

sullen aspen
#

I'm pissed there's no skill based match making in WT... shit sucks
I refuse to be the punching bad in unranked type matchmaking and now my only option is TA which they made shitty changes to

slim moth
#

just went 0-7 in TA where the other team was filled with players higher ranked than any of the players on our team. not fucking fair at all

umbral warren
#

TA is extremely awful, really far away from The Finals identity

onyx ruin
#

I quit this shit man this game too stressful. GG embark im uninstalling this trash

short oracle
#

I don't hate TA, but I hate winning and getting 300 points, and losing 1000 if I lose -'
top frag in every case

rain gust
#

M11 falls behind the SH1900, the V9S and the LH1 in terms of sheer TTK.

It's supposedly the melter weapon. High recoil, lacking a lot of range. Needs a damage per bullet buff (by 1 only) or a fire rate buff.

It's good to see light gets its compensations (although LH1 is the one that is currently overkill. I dominated with LH1 in world tour and ranked terminal), but be ready to put the light weapons on the same page with each other, in its respected strengths and weaknesses.

unique nimbus
#

S3 match loading bug please fix. You hear everything in the background but you cant do anything and get time kicked back to main menu but again you cant see anything apart from loading screen and main menu music

strong escarp
#
  • Bring back Ranked Tournament
  • Revert the LH1 damage buff. It was already a broken weapon, and you now you guys made it kill faster than SMGs!
  • Revert the 93R fire rate nerf. Its range buff is not enough to compensate for the fact that it kills way too slowly. The new damage dropoff modifier still makes it worse than an LH1 or XP-54
vapid pine
#

Bring back ranked cashout! hug_friend

crystal umbra
#

Something tells me that appealing to casual players on PC don't really mix.

I think if you want to get a larger market you need to appeal to players who are on console.

This may be a hunch and I may not know what the hell I'm talking about but it just kind of makes more sense.
Personal computers cost more money than consoles.

I'm also saying this because there seems to be less console players on than PC players.

Maybe we can do some directed marketing to console players and get more casuals on since you guys have been trying to appeal to casual players this season with the terminal attack change.

proper barn
uneven mountain
#

I was gold 2 last season and my placement matches took me to silver 1. This season placement took me to bronze 2, I hate grinding

royal dock
graceful slate
#

Rpg should do 30-50 damage but you will get two rockets along with being able to rocket jump. This will come at a cost of some health to the heavy but it gives heavy some needed mobility along with making the rpg less annoying to play against.

teal minnow
#

Delete LH1 or nerf it to the groundšŸ¤·ā€ā™‚ļø

haughty niche
#

Give sword back gadget swapping

wise jolt
astral thorn
#

enemy footsteps don't make sound

quick coyote
#

My Personal Opinion on Season 3 So Far

Pros

  • Stunning New Map
    The new map is truly beautiful. It stands out as one of the best and most incredible maps I've seen in my entire gaming career.

  • Enhanced Viewer Interaction
    The interaction with the "Viewer" is a fantastic addition. Hearing them cheer us on when we get a kill significantly enhances the game's ambiance. This is definitely the direction the game should be heading. We need more!

  • Innovative New Weapons and Gadgets
    The new weapons introduced are really cool, and the new gadget is incredibly useful. They bring fresh dynamics to the gameplay. The dual blades, feels designed for light, might need a buff to be more effective.

  • Exceptional Battle Pass
    This season's battle pass is simply the best since the closed beta..

  • Culturally Rich Skins
    The skins this season are a love letter to Japanese culture. They are well-designed, thoughtfully chosen, and fit perfectly into the game.

  • Circuits
    Great as always, the circuits help in retaining the community and keeping engagement high.

  • Captivating Soundtrack
    The soundtrack is as good as ever. I hope we get a jukebox feature soon!

Cons

  • Ranked Terminal Attack
    This one is a bit obvious. While it's great to have new game modes, having two modes to farm might be too much. Locking ranked rewards behind Terminal Attack isn't ideal. Personally, I don't play Terminal Attack because it's a slower game mode and doesn't fit what I want from the finals. It's a nice addition, but maybe it shouldn't be included in such an important mode like ranked.

  • Balances
    The current weapon balance isn't the worst, but the LH1 is way too powerful now, and the throwing knife does too much damage. Everything else is fine and can be countered, but these two changes aren't good in my opinion. Heavy have still too much HP or damage power. They should be more protecting than attacking.

  • Poor Matchmaking
    This is the most frustrating point. It's not acceptable to have such a disparity in player performance, like someone with 500 damage paired with someone having 6000 damage in the final round of World Tour. This is frustrating for both new and experienced players. While I don't expect pro-level matches, a minimum level of balance would be appreciated.

  • Bugs
    There are small bugs present, but none are game-breaking.

BTW Please add BEARD Option !!

prisma remnant
#

"Win 3 matches of World Tour" should not be the entire tournament. A match is a round.

daring fossil
#

kyoto needs an optimization pass. I get like 140fps on most of the maps, I hit my frame cap (165) on syshorizon. On kyoto I get like 120 fps, and I've seen drops down to below 80.

rustic cliff
#

i personally don't mind ta, but they should put cashout back in ranked and move ta to world tour so everyone is happy

cosmic jungle
#

From every ranked game ive played in the last couple days, theres always atleast 3 lights on the other team, while one would think its no issue it really is, theres always a sniper that either one tap headshots or tanks your health to nothing, I understand, thats like the whole premise on light sniper, its just unfair to have to fight that from over 180M away, maybe just disable it for TA? but idk, seems unfair to me, Bow is fine, Throwing knives is just impossible to fight as a medium or a light unless you get the first hit, but typically their running dash, which is just extremely difficult to fight

alpine glacier
#

#BuffTheSpear

grim rivet
#

Things to consider are, in the event of a tie, playing two rounds so that each team can attack and defend. after additional 6 rounds (3 defense, 3 attack) in the absence of a result, automatic draw??

smoky belfry
#

Nerf LH1 you devs you should know better

stray ocean
#

enable text chat on lobby šŸ¤¦

frozen swan
lusty grotto
#

1 game 1 cheat thx embark

signal dew
#

add back cashout

dreamy charm
# signal dew add back cashout

Itā€™ll be back, at the earliest the devs see the push back and bring it back at the latest itā€™ll be back next season

crystal umbra
#

I would like to have fun with the new weapons please.

But unfortunately I have to play with the LH1.

Do we see the issue here? Launch new weapons in an over powered state and then people will automatically view the new weapons as a more positive impact in the game.

Rebalance them during the season but drop them strong af.

We have been using the goddamn Fcar and AK for a year now. The throwing knives are old.

sonic raft
#

Everyone always cries for a nerf on a weapon they can't use well and die to often, and they want a buff to the weapons they use since they can't get kills with it. The common denominator is you. Play better. Position better, Aim better. Work with your team better.

worn horizon
#

93r is still not good, probably lights worst gun. what we need for this weapon to make it feel good is better hipfire. we dont want to ADS this thing that often, we want to hipfire it! same goes for v9s make those pistols shine in hipfire and dont make us rely so much on ads

timber hazel
#

POWER SHIFT SHOULD BE THE MODE THAT NEWBIE EXPERIENCE FIRST
Embark.
TA is easier to understand than cashout.

But wonā€™t powershift also fit the same description while being infinitely more forgiving?
TA. If the newbie bot W key to the open heā€™s dead and all he will get to do is spectate. Who gonna have fun and stay with the game like that? FOR FIVE ROUND NO LESS.

Mean while, powershift. Not only have infinite respawn, health regen. Defiv, healing beam
And guess what
CHANGE CHARACTERS/ LOADOUT ANYTIME!!
(I know newbie wonā€™t have much to change to but changing from light to heavy is still something)

Oh and 1 more added benefits of power-shift
You get to sold the best element of the final: the destruction
Without even needing the newbie to destroy stuff himself (cause all he need is just to stand in the payload which let me repeat.
Is a super just as easy to understand game mode cause we been having push the payload for 2 decades)

brittle obsidian
#

I really don't know how you can try to pass off a blatant nerf as a buff for the 93r, like, what?

acoustic gyro
#

yo when we gettin frog cosmetics? froggy

twin reef
#

Please, please bring back Ranked Tournament. Have played about 30 games of Terminal Attack and it's just too boring, and less strategic than Cashout. There's way less team-play and it's mostly just a shootout TDM, because it's nearly pointless to do the objective. Also it seems the mode is only 5x Lights, because why would you pick anything else, if losing hp while going to a point only regenerates to 100. If you get damaged as a medium or heavy, being at 100hp you will lose every 1v1 Vs an equally skilled light every time because of the higher damage output. Plus it's just a spam of 5x Sonar and you see everyone all the time. It's just too boring and slow. I have no excitement or joy playing it. I have 800 hours in the game and am seriously considering quitting, because there is no point playing the casual World Tour with badges. This season's was looking so good. The twitch drops, Twitch Rivals sponsorship, insane new map, great new weapons. But you had to ruin it with the Terminal Attack rank mode. I understand that you wanted to fix the unfair flights when third partying, but you can do something to disincentivize people from third parties to make it more fair/competitive. Overall really disappointed with the TA Rank decision and will stop for the foreseeable future. Hopefully you switch the rank mode back to Cashout, otherwise see you next season when you bring it back!

valid python
#

The only thing carrying this season are the cosmetics and the bow

clear crystal
#

Please make TA 5 wins not 7 as it takes way too long right now

distant oar
#

Just wanted to say the music goes hard šŸ”„
Good job Embark!

brave sable
#

i feel like TA Ranked should be formatted in tournaments, each round best of 3 or 5

pseudo breach
#

Day 73 of asking for South African servers

sharp jasper
#

Please, do Community polls for changes cryingpepe

haughty niche
#

Give sword back gadget swapping

fiery terrace
#

dual katanas need a buff

cinder gull
#

buff dual katanas

quick lodge
frosty sierra
terse lark
#

please rework cloak to have low activation cost but run out faster the longer cloak is active. this way you aren't punished for activating your cloak and instead punish cloak users for staying invis too long and camping with it. it would also differentiate cloak and vanish bomb more (cloak for using invis in quick short bursts during fights, and vanish bomb for safely getting away when low or to sneak up on players) being able to toggle invis on and off is what makes cloak good, using up a 3rd of the ability to activate cloak sucks. as it is rn, it feels just like vanish bomb but in your specialization slot

ancient basin
shadow glacier
#

Nerf the throwing knifes please.... Every light plays with them and they do WAY to much damage, also make "cashout" the normal ranked... Terminal attack is fun but only a few games... Way to long wait time between matches aswell

quick coyote
sage sonnet
#

LH1 overbuffed also nerf RPG its ridiculous. It should be a destruction tool not a second primary for melee users. Nerf rpg damage into the ground and increase ammo carried. maybe 2 or 3

idle geyser
#

So you can win 7-1 and lose rank šŸ‘

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dawn hazel
#

Nobody should lose rs if you win a ranked game 7-1.

astral thorn
#

Team wipe should not be a thing, make coins more relevant

lilac mango
limpid coral
#

On the id.embark.games website completely deleting your account with no ability to get it back should not be labeled as UNLINK I am sure this is not the only complaint as such. I only read the big red text the 2nd time through the unlink process. Should really be labeled delete.

brave agate
#

y'all gotta fix this auto-match cancelling thing, i play casual terminal attack with a 5-stack of my brothers and your game crashes like 1/3 of the times when 1 particular brother starts loading the map. and even though he's always reconnecting before the match even starts, you cancel the match and give him an (increasing) penalty. why?? he's not quitting the match, he's just crashing. we're the only team handicapped by his crashes and we're all fine with it. so now we gotta play power shift for 30 minutes

burnt sedge
#

Skill issue

dreamy charm
#

Not that deep

obsidian solar
#

BUFF THE RIOT SHIELD:
Here are a few ways that can improve the shield, as it underperforms against any other ranged and melee weapon. I know all of these together would make the shield pretty strong but even 1 or 2 would be enough to improve it so much!:

  • While blocking movement speed should be the same as walking (increasing block movement speed would help a lot in pushing and giving your teammates support)
  • The shield should block a larger area of the body to make it more consistent at blocking melee, bullets, and splash damage. Players with decent aim can easily hit the arms and legs which defeats the whole purpose of it.
  • Blocking melee attacks should inflict a knockback to prevent melee weapons from clipping through and scoring a second hit with the active frames.
  • Increase the melee range, even just +1m of range would make it feel so much better to catch enemies that were just outside your range before.
  • Electrify the baton and allow it to glitch enemies for a very short period, it would provide a lot of team utility and prevent dash lights and charge and slam heavies from effortlessly hard countering shielders

FIX THE RIOT SHIELD BUGS:

  • When picking up throwables in the arena, the first person shield model gets messed up and blocks your entire screen.
  • Remove the fov and turning speed reduction when you raise the shield to block, it makes it overly clunky to use and feels terrible in a fast pace environment.

HOLDING THE DAGGER BACKSTAB:

  • Make it so you can hold the backstab and it's not a forced animation, revert it like it was in the Open Beta

GIVE SMOKE GRENADES TO ALL CLASSES:

  • Give smoke grenade to all classes! It would open so many strategies for the other builds! I would use smoke so much if it was on medium, especially to better support my team against fire, detection sources, or to help revive teammates, and steal cashouts in an open area.

FIX THE GLITCH TRAP:

  • Glitched heavy can still use the winch claw and it doesn't stop chargeNslam
stray rampart
#

Make LH1 fire explosive bullets and make it automatic

Don't forget the drum mag too while we're at it

upper citrus
#

Nerf LH1 into the ground

cosmic sedge
gleaming star
#

IMO its bullshit that u lose your whole stats when the game kicks you. Its not my fault and when i get back in a minute this shouldnt happen. Hard carried the game and getting kicked in the last round is not cool. So I got just a few ranked points it sucks

royal gust
#

10 games in a row 10 times 10 lights 5v5. not fun.

glacial knot
#

Reduce chain range, someone pulled me from the roof in kyoto. I was really far away.

olive shell
#

Daily reminder that TA ranked is dog shit. Looks like a fan modded game

quick coyote
errant thunder
#

I really want to know why the light has the most op weapon of the game

wise jolt
onyx crystal
worn horizon
frosty sierra
brave jacinth
sonic hazel
#

The ā€œOff Panelā€ gun skin is broken šŸ™„ missing itā€™s texture

quick coyote
next stream
#

My last post on the rank topic because I had enough of the finals games. It is impossible to do a TA because of the different idea of ā€‹ā€‹the game, which distinguished it from most of the games that we know, and we were tired of repeating the same idea. 5v5 . The idea of ā€‹ā€‹cashout is one of the most beautiful and enjoyable game plays. In any case, the change idea of ā€‹ā€‹the game. It destroys the popularity of the Finals, not because the players trained for more than half a year on a specific playing system and simply changed it to TA, but because a move like this indicates a lack of respect for the players.

finite fjord
#

i feel like people complain just to complain

violet elbow
#

Terminal attack fundamentally doesnt work in this game with these maps, maybe actually change something about cashout FOR ONCE instead of just changing to a different mode

cashout needs to be removed to be reworked but terminal attack was supposed to be competitively viable after 4 weeks of it being in the game????

storm siren
#

Just got a bug in ranked match where i couldnt shoot weapon or throw down any gadgets and lost because of it.

crisp raven
#

Naw, first recon sense taken away, then recon grenades taken away, next Fcar nerf,
now turret cooldown change.

honest verge
#

counts tours you've played

delicate yoke
velvet nexus
#

can we just stop listening to the loud complainer light class players? its literally the most dominant class in most gamemodes and we're just pretending they need buffed because they cry about it all day, if you genuinely struggle to kill heavy class players as a light player idk what to tell you, learn how to play the class? nobody I know will even touch this game because of light class, I tried to get my friend into it and he quit after three games because we got full stack light class players 3 games in a row, all they do is complain about how they die instantly when they can kill any class in the game even faster, not to mention invis ruins any gamemode thats just played for fun, because theres no way to counter that shit without constantly listening and eagle eyeing every doorway and window, theres no world right now where as a heavy player I should have to worry about crossing a 10 foot opening without getting insta-beamed and killed by one dude

dreamy charm
idle geyser
#

This says everything about the new ranked system

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sharp herald
#

the weird motion blur since the new season is making light invis actually invis wtf

astral bobcat
blazing crescent
#

pls more dmg to lh1 is waaaaaayyyy to less

candid flower
#

Lh1 is def not broken

ancient basin
#

Switched from medium to light and using lh1 and now iā€™m getting wins againā€¦ crazy (ranked TA)

errant thunder
# quick coyote Heavy = tanks; Medium = Support; Light = DPS

I understand. Iā€™m only complaining about the LM1 and the new 5vs5 mode. I played a few games, and thereā€™s only lights with LM1 in the opposite team. Itā€™s really unplayable in that case and itā€™s only concerning this mode. I love the game and it has a huge potential, but I noticed that players are playing the same way on every game I did. Maybe itā€™s just me but itā€™s not even a skill issue or bad mates.

onyx crystal
golden rapids
spiral hemlock
#

loving the new season, however itā€™s definitely not running that great.. could be me but my frames seem lower and in general the servers donā€™t seem as stable

errant orchid
#

I know everyone is not happy about the new ranked mode and im in the same boat, this is not csgo

sacred hawk
#

I wouldn't mind it so much if it didn't take a decade to play a single match, I might maybe finish my placements by next season lol

gaunt coyote
#

I think terminal attack needs to use all the tools . Not limit them. If your gonna limit a class, you might as well do a ban. Each team bans something from use . Medium class is nerfed hard in terminal attack and disregards what the class is for. Which is support.

mossy otter
outer plover
#

This game is so fucking unbalanced now

cloud thicket
#

Change game name to The Terminals

proven flower
#

With session 3 I already have a lot of cool cosmetics for my weapons I just wish there was a way you could select which skins you want and equip those selected skins on random idk apex has this feature just a thought šŸ¤·ā€ā™‚ļø

indigo burrow
#

Spectator mode doesn't really make sense...
Why isn't it that when you join, if there's no more slots, you just go in spectator?
I couldn't try the feature, but it's probably free-cam and I think it would be amazing to also have an automatic camera that pans around objectives, show kills, etc...

gaunt perch
#

WHY ARE DUAL BLADES JUST BETTER THAN RIOT SHIELD IN EVERY WAY?

  • Blocks everything in your view, including your arms and feet, whereas Riot Shield is very vulnerable where your feet are always exposed and arms are nearly always exposed
  • Blocks melee damage
  • Attacks faster and deals much greater damage per second
  • No movement speed penalty
  • Doesn't obstruct your view when blocking
  • It's not very obvious that you're blocking, which can fool people into shooting you
  • Reflects all ranged damage back at attacker
  • NEED I SAY MORE?

BUFF THE RIOT SHIELD UP TO PAR WITH DUAL BLADES:

  • The shield should block a larger area of the body to make it more consistent at blocking melee, bullets, and splash damage. Players with decent aim can and do easily hit the arms and legs which defeats the whole purpose of it. Not to mention bullets seem to go through all the time somehow, the player-model hitbox seems to constantly clipping through the shield.
  • While blocking and attacking, movement speed should be the same as walking
  • Blocking melee attacks could inflict a knockback/stun, and reduce melee damage significantly. Riot Shield is currently hard countered by all other melee weapons.
  • Increase melee range or attack speed slightly OR reduce wind-up duration when swinging the baton.
  • Remove the turning speed reduction when you raise the shield to block, it makes it much much harder to look around, especially with such a narrow viewing window.

RIOT SHIELD BUGS:

  • When picking up throwables in the arena, sometimes the first person shield model gets messed up and blocks your entire screen.

ABOVE ALL ELSE
Riot Shield should at the very least do one thing reliably, and that is BLOCK damage. Nerf the rest of it I don't really care as long as I can use it to survive. BLOCKING is the Riot Shield's core feature and it should be the best weapon in the game to do that.

royal gust
#

5 lights v 5 lights in terminal attack is boring as hell and it happens 9/10 times.

Cashout not being ranked doesnā€™t wanna make me play it.

TA is boring and repetitive with 10 lights.

Cant go back to playing cashout because no incentives that live up to the same incentive ranked gives.

Quitting the game soon if this doesnā€™t get changed. Big streamers agree with this and like 20+ friends will just go xDefiant with me sadly

old plank
#

can we please get a LH1 nerf

I got 2 shot as a light and died...

civic oar
#

A light can:

  • easily be taken out of stealth with one bullet and usually when they wanna 'escape with invis'... they are already under fire
  • has weapons that have an average dps around 180? remove the shotgun and it is 170 or 165.... other classes have an average dps of 150. Now tell me who survives in a direct 1v1 when both sides have perfect aim.
  • they have 150 bloody hp, yes they need faster regen. Other classes can lose half hp and still go for another gunfight. Light needs to just sit out with 10-20 hp left after each gun fight just to be effective again.
  • If you are getting zoned by a light in Kyoto out of all maps... you should reconsider playing this game since there are SO MANY buildings and walls you can hide behind as you are rushing any location, it's almost hilarious. Learn to use the environment.
  • most of its weapons require a good amount of skill and have no range (I agree, lh1 and the bow are bloody annoying and need a nerf)
  • die to a single mine.

on the other hand...

A heavy can:

  • shut down a light with the rpg. Don't even speak about how it now does 140 dmg, what do you think anyone can do with 10 hp left when the weakest gun deals more than that per bullet.
  • has an almost hitscan speed grapple hook that goes through EVERYTHING and is an absolute death sentence when used with sledge, spear, shotgun, flamethrower
  • has more than double the hp of light and as mentioned before, can survive a 1v1 with any light if both sides start firing at the same time and land all their shots

A medium can:

  • use some of the best feeling weapons in the game that have the most ammo efficiency per kill per clip (akm) which have nice recoil patterns
  • omg that pay to win shotgun skin? have you ever used it? it feels incredible... literally made me a medium main all throughout season 1-2
sullen shore
#

So grenades still don't detonate after you pull the pin, unless you fully complete the throw before you die. Makes it very hard to suicide bomb

somber axle
violet wing
#

LH1 is ludicrously OP right now

dull otter
#

LH1 needs dmg nerf, sonar grenades need to move back to quantity of 1 and not 2 with the range buffs.

onyx tiger
stone hazel
#

i was running this game so well in the open beta and ever sine season 1 the performance has been far worse
but whatever the last patch did in the last 24 hours, the new kyoto map is unplayable for me now
it was fine the past few days (i was surprised with how well it ran with all that foliage) but now the stuttering is so bad i literally cannot play
weirdly, the problem would disappear for like 10 seconds if i changed my video settings to or from fullscreen/windowed, but it would reappear until i switched back to the other

twilit patrol
#

AHH light finally gets some damage and people complaining? THATS WHAT LIGHT IS SUPPOSED TO BE. Light is 2 shots but deals damage THATS HOW THE CLASSES ARE SUPPOSED TO WORK.

velvet nexus
fleet swallow
#

TA is ok, i'd still prefer cashout but I know it got taken out of ranked for balancing reasons, but why is it that winning only gives you anywhere between 250-500, but losing can drop you by 1100

bleak fern
gaunt coyote
#

There are so many things you can do to balance a game and make it approachable for all types of players and taking something that literally is part of a class away specifically isn't the way to do that. It needs to be fair on both fronts.

On a side note. This game has a magic that season 1 brought out. They are bringing in new items on top of items that already existed and are now changed. They need to revert it and start fresh each season. This season gives chill vibes but gameplay feels overly sweaty. It doesn't fit. It's taking away the magic and the fun of what the finals brought to the table. It's a struggle. And change isn't always the answer. Sometimes you have to let things stay the same. Change slowly over time. Not instantly.

Overall:
Season 1 - 8/10 (a good start)
Season 2- 9/10 (something to improve)
Season 3 -6/10 (too many needles changes

shell steppe
zinc gazelle
#

I think this new update was amazing I wasn't really expecting terminal attack but it wasn't anything I was gonna complain about, however one main annoying issue is the match canceling, I don't care If I lost teammates I just wanna play the game, I never get to enjoy the game because of this

mortal mauve
#

please revert ranked to cashout TA doesnt work unless you're 5 man and its just not as fun

dark ridge
#

Thank you Embark for putting Invisability in the Game and than buff the LH so that players get 2 or 3 shot out of nowhere, really good job, maybe remove it like rercon sense because athat shit has nothigh to do in a SHOOTER Game

marsh halo
#

Developers should play their game....especially when you have a huuuge devteam. Would avoid a lot of the balance issues if you just tried the equipment you buffed that DID not need a buff....I'd gladly take a paycheck to test balancing but I know I won't because the devs would rather leave broken elements in the game...

quick coyote
#

audio is still a joke, when fix?

mint raft
#

My game crashes in the loading screen on my way into ranked TA, I reconnect, then the game kicks me from the server for no reason, then when I try to reconnect it cancels the entire match because someone else also disconnected mid match and then I get a matchmaking suspension for something that wasn't even my fault! First match I tried to play today too. Is there no way for the game to recognise the difference between intentionally leaving a ranked match and being disconnected for reasons outside of your control?

worldly scaffold
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Buff LH1, there is still some people who resist to use it. Don't start playing your game in public matches, that would be a mistake, just do what you do, your doing great Embark, lol. But seriously, art and music department still rocks, rest has gone downhill. Oh, also balance more weapons and gadgets for TA, that is gonna make it the best thing ever, CL40 was problematic indeed, you guys nailed it, lol. I can't even... Also remove the visuals on sonar grenade totally, doesn't match the new, what, three times the size it has? It's confusing that the visuals are there anyway, you will be detected most of the match anyway. You nerfed it for Medium, then took it away and gave it to Light, and then buffed it and released the change clearly unfinished... I can't even... I ahven't even started here...

stone temple
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please nerf light omg, LH1 is stupid broken and TA Ranked is unplayable as medium if you play against 5 stack light and I'll not talk about those recon grenade (idk if it is the real name since my game is in french). 10 of those grenades in one round, it's worst than playing against the old recon sensor

haughty bay
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Take back the update and publicly apologize with lashings

twilit patrol
# velvet nexus to me the most logical tradeoff is smaller hit box and faster speed + mobility =...

No the most logical tradeoff is the less hp the more the damage and the more the hp the less the damage. This is textbook stuff, like assassins in games are squishy, glass cannon, 1 shot but the tradeoff is they can deal dmg and vice versa.

Mobility in this game is placebo, good aimers and with aim assist for consoles, the crosshair can move always faster than the character.

Classes having closer health pools is going against the game principality. Heavy is supposed to be the "tank", front line, medium all-round character like a bruiser/fighter and light an assassin, high damage but squishy.

This how is being done to achieve "balance", but I dont think balance is what they are trying to achieve. They are trying to have sort of "metas" that people can bounce around, like heavy was meta with nukes, then mediums where more efficient when nuke got removed etc.

tulip kite
#

Please change back ranked to cash out

abstract rose
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please nerf light

ember karma
#

Anyone getting a certain glitch with the sonar Grenade?

velvet nexus
#

this happens to me often too, also the bug in powershift where it scrambles your loadout between 2 different classes if the guy youre spectating dies while youre switching, happens to me almost daily since LAST season and hasnt been aknowledged

compact wind
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this game wasnt built for ta. it doesnt work.

kindred crypt
#

RIGHT NOW IF YOU FALL OFF THE MAP YOUR STATUE DOES NOT COME BACK UP SO YOU CAN BE REVIVED

violet wing
#

Season 3 is the lowest point in a otherwise great game, I hope they react fast like they usually do and fix this mess. Right now it's repelling a lot more players than it attracts.

blissful bridge
humble wave
#

pls for the faces , can we get a more darker color

rotund raptor
#

Anyone having crashing problems when loading up on ā€œprecompiling shaders ā€œ and gets a unreal engine crash error ? I have to reset my pc every time to start the game

obtuse ether
#

Just played my first game of TA and it was just as bad as I thought it would be, entire game dominated by lights that either snipe you right from spawn or instakill you on point with throwing knives lmfao. And before someone says skill issue I solo queued to diamond last season so I don't think I'm that terrible at the game. This mode just was not meant for this game, too many balancing issues and not made for the maps the way they are designed. Was excited to grind to diamond again but dont't think I have the mental capacity to play even a 2nd game of TA

bleak fern
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heres an idea, dont play ta, people acting like there is only ta in this game, completely ignoring world tour and quickplay

lofty laurel
#

Hereā€™s an idea, stop crying

fair osprey
#

I completed all 8 placement matches and got Silver 2. Better than the experience I had with this terrible mode.

The setup phase is stupid. Defenders spawn right next to their objectives. If the map was cut in half, like it should, great. But it's not. Almost every map except Horizon is too big for TA.

Defenders are WAY more at an advantage than Attackers. LH1 being the Meta Light, including Sniper and Bow makes every single game for the Attackers a complete misery. Here's the fact: I won every single game when I started out as a Defender. I lost every single game when I started out as an Attacker. The setup phase doesn't even help prevent this, either.

And that's all the meta is. Every Light has the LH1, or the Sniper, and then there will be Heavies if they aren't a Light with mesh shield and dome shield and rpg because free instant kill.

And, most importantly, NO ONE WANTED THIS. NEXON wanted it and NEXON is the reason S3 is so polarizing. It's also incredibly insulting that there are voice lines where it's very clearly antagonistic towards those that didn't want this change, such as "This is still The Finals, but with Terminal Attack!" Or "You get Terminal Attack, you will deal with Terminal Attack" or something along those lines. Absolutely insulting and it only pissed my whole team off. The whole team got pissed off. I wish I was kidding.

It's not fun. I never had any fun. Kyoto being so common in Ranked TA is frustrating because Kyoto is by FAR the worst map for TA. It was boring, it was frustrating, the Defenders win every single round, the Attackers lose every single round, and that's all it is. There's no excitement. It's a complete ratty sweat fest that should've never became the primary Ranked mode.

I hope Ranked TA dies in a fire and never returns in any future Seasons. Even my own criticisms isn't going to fix Ranked TA, or TA in general, because The FINALS is NOT MADE FOR CSGO PLAY!

fleet adder
#

DELETE TERMINAL ATTACK! THIS SHIT BELONGS IN THE TRASH šŸš®šŸ—£ļøšŸ—£ļøšŸ—£ļøā—ļøā—ļøā—ļø

slate mauve
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if a player leaves a match and doesnt reconnect in <3 minutes. end the fucking match.

modern plover
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Embark, please give us an opportunity to use mouse and keyboard on consoles like you did in beta because crossplay is available. I think itā€™ll be fair.

misty brook
#

Bro I just hopped in a game that was already ending so I instantly lost

swift pulsar
#

Idk if its a bug but the dual blades just don't reflect damage sometimes. I'll be blocking and keeping my reticle on target and it won't deflect any damage.

sullen wolf
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Terminal attack does not belong in ranked the matches take so long. Who thought first to 7 was a good idea. World tour no one takes serious because theres nothing to lose, you only have to gain. It sucks....

shy swan
#

MAKE TA AND TOUNAMENT BOTH RANKED TO CO EXIST

median atlas
#

Is it possible to add a gifting feature to the game? Like we can gift our friends items from the shop or the battle pass?

wheat frigate
#

Bring Ranked Rewards to World Tour up to Diamond and you LOSE progress if you dont make out the first round. IT WOULD SOLVE ALL OF THE ISSUE's.

onyx crystal
strong yacht
#

Cashout is what makes The Finals unique. That game mode is what drew me to this game away from other FPS games. Then, when i started playing ranked, I was even more encouraged to grind for diamond. If i wanted to play "search and destroy" then i would have just stayed with Call of Duty. if you want Terminal Attack to be a thing, thats ok, it's your game. But please have a cashout ranked mode as well. Like i stated previously, that game mode is what make The Finals, The Finals.

astral dust
#

REMOVE LH1

gilded sage
#

maybe grapple can have two charges or shorter cooldown? šŸ‘‰šŸ‘ˆ

silk cloud
#

Dual blades deflection seems inconsistent as hell. Sometimes I get a bounce, sometimes I don't, even in the practice range with the training dummies they won't trigger bounces unless they're right in front of you. You essentially need to be pointing directly at the person that's shooting you (any variation in height or angle means no bounce) and even a slight variation to either side or above/below and they circumnavigate your defence. Considering the medium has bugger all mobility and it's very difficult to close the distance on opponents, I think it's reasonable to request the defensive block is a little more forgiving?

brittle zinc
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damn y'all. Just got banned for abandoning a match after the game wouldn't even load me in (heard game audio, my team was playing, I was stuck in a loading screen). Somehow managed to rejoin and carry the group to first place and we qualed successfully after which I got handed a ban for having the audacity to alt-f4 from an unplayable gamestate. What a joke, this is unacceptable.

twin willow
tardy cloud
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I'm not totally mad just kinda sad and find this funny. I was playing a round of quick cash(as you do) and was using dagger(w/ dash). I guess I had my auto-clicker open from a while back and it kicked me from the game, with around 5 or so minutes left. It's funny that it took so long and that "hey! He's using an auto clicker for backstabs, boot him!" I get maybe doing this for V9S or LH1 but they still have an RPM cap that most gamers can probably easily reach

topaz swallow
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I play on a 4070 12GB, the game is very low fps for a fast paced "competitive" shooter, im praying šŸ™ please do an optimization patch, i dont mind playing with muddy textures on a map that looks like it was built in minecraft, i just wanna be able to play at high framerates please

pseudo latch
#

Day 90 of me begging the devs to give heavy an M134 Minigun as a Specialization.

  • 200 Round magazine, ammo is restored two bullets every second, 100 seconds for a full reload.
  • 20 rounds per second, eleven damage a round, 220 DPS. No headshot modifier to keep DPS from becoming insane.
  • Falloff begins at 30 meters down to six damage a shot at 50, but wide spread means the weapon becomes less effective past 10 meters even against larger targets, youā€™re probably not getting higher than 150 DPS even as far as 10 meters.
  • bullets do high damage to structures (should be breaking walls in 20-50 shots) allowing a mid-range option to output mass destruction (destroying entire walls on higher floors of buildings, ripping apart nesting sightlines)
    • significant damage to structures and players
    • gun can be pre-spooled with RMB over having an ADS (for obvious reasons, you try to aim down the sights of a water cooler)|
    • high suppressive force through sheer amount of bullets being fired
    • its a goddamn minigun
  • - Heavy cannot jump or sprint while holding it, has to switch back to primary
  • - lengthy equip-unequip time to balance such, no ā€œpocket minigunā€ strats, choosing to use this mid-combat is a commitment, one that could get you killed.
  • - gun has to spool up for a second before firing, spool up being LOUD

The big Nine-Oh. Iā€™m impressed Iā€™ve managed to stay half this consistent. Hereā€™s to another ninety more at least lmao

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vivid oxide
#

allow me to write to the party while in lobby

sudden spire
supple seal
#

Pls remove ta as ranked thanks šŸ¤©

elder umbra
quick coyote
#

Good lord nerf LH1

twilit patrol
haughty bay
gritty umbra
#

smurf accounts r rampant rn, tbh this is my least favorite season in terms of balancing and backend issues. been playing other games bc the state of the finals rn is kinda abysmal

slender oasis
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-LH1 back to 49 per shot, lower fire rate very slightly, like by .5 seconds maybe
-Spear hitboxes are jank, please fix
-TA seems kinda bad to put as Ranked (opinion)
-L damage overall feels a bit weird (might be opinion)
-More damage to blocker for reflects with dual swords
-Longer winch cashout pull length/power
-Rebuff mesh shield and dome shield, as people too easily pop those (should be 1.5 clips of a M11 worth of HP)
-More in depth tutorial to teach players the ropes better, add advanced tutorials that gives small reward for completing

timid musk
#

Here are some suggestions for buffing the Riot Shield

  1. Significantly shorten gadget cooldown after blocking a certain number of bullets.
    Currently, there is no reward for blocking bullets with the Riot Shield. In fact, the more you use the shield, the more disadvantageous it becomes for the player. On the other hand, Dual Blades have a significant return as they can potentially reflect bullets. By allowing the Riot Shield to combine with other gadgets in combat, it could create an interesting support-focused gameplay. This would contrast the offensive nature of the Dual Blades with a strong support role for the Riot Shield.

  2. Grant a short stun effect when hitting with the baton.
    This could prevent enemies from capturing objectives or forcibly disrupt enemies attacking teammates. If this is considered too powerful, the stun energy could be granted as a bonus for blocking bullets, making it an interesting strategic element in the game.

wheat frigate
#

Just remember guys Embark shafted its loyal community to stroke the shaft of other siege communities for an additional 3k player count for PC LMAO. 16,5k Wed before Season dropped, at 19,8k on Saturday evening two days laterā€¦ā€¦šŸŖ¦ The Finals

thorny parcel
#

Honestly Embark why is Cloaked Light still a thing

And RPG and Stun and now Winch Claw being a stun + grab. Why šŸ˜­

wispy vault
#

let us disable anti-aliasing pls šŸ™

versed phoenix
#

undo the CL-40 changes pls, this nerf is so harsh for no reason

gaunt perch
#

WHY ARE DUAL BLADES JUST BETTER THAN RIOT SHIELD IN EVERY WAY?

  • Blocks everything in your view, including your arms and feet, whereas Riot Shield is very vulnerable where your feet are always exposed and arms are nearly always exposed
  • Blocks melee damage
  • Attacks faster and deals much greater damage per second
  • No movement speed penalty
  • Doesn't obstruct your view when blocking
  • It's not very obvious that you're blocking, which can fool people into shooting you
  • Reflects all ranged damage back at attacker
  • NEED I SAY MORE?

BUFF THE RIOT SHIELD UP TO PAR WITH DUAL BLADES:

  • The shield should block a larger area of the body to make it more consistent at blocking melee, bullets, and splash damage. Players with decent aim can and do easily hit the arms and legs which defeats the whole purpose of it. Not to mention bullets seem to go through all the time somehow, the player-model hitbox seems to constantly clipping through the shield.
  • While blocking and attacking, movement speed should be the same as walking
  • Blocking melee attacks could inflict a knockback/stun, and reduce melee damage significantly. Riot Shield is currently hard countered by all other melee weapons.
  • Increase melee range or attack speed slightly OR reduce wind-up duration when swinging the baton.
  • Remove the turning speed reduction when you raise the shield to block, it makes it much much harder to look around, especially with such a narrow viewing window.

RIOT SHIELD BUGS:

  • When picking up throwables in the arena, sometimes the first person shield model gets messed up and blocks your entire screen.

ABOVE ALL ELSE
Riot Shield should at the very least do one thing reliably, and that is BLOCK damage. Nerf the rest of it I don't really care as long as I can use it to survive. BLOCKING is the Riot Shield's core feature and it should be the best weapon in the game to do that.

civic thistle
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nerf sniper they take absolutely no skill.

peak grail
#

with the advent of new weapons we should make a melee only gamemode

also undo the lewis gun nerf :<

topaz swallow
#

thefinals Notify players with an ingame notification when a player they've reported has had moderatory actions taken against them, this way we can visually see that you guys are actually doing something about troublemakers behind the scenes.

Robatama Inspiration for a feature like this would be how Overwatch does it, if you've made a successful report, whenever you start the game you'll receive a full screen notification that tells you "an action has been taken against a player you've reported, etc"

this is already in the game, pog, thanks guys for letting me know

deep folio
#

Dunno if I can play this season with the new wave of bots

swift pulsar
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I've got a lvl 7 LH1 that i've been maining for almost all of season 2 and climbed to diamond with it. Why buff it? Now it's so plainly easy to use and highly overtuned it feels like it just outshines other weapons. It used to be somewhat skillfull and now it's just cheap. Feels like fcar did before nerfs...

quick coyote
teal carbon
#

keep crashing in the loading screen when joining a game. 4 times in a row. literally cant play a game.

lean birch
#

sit and wait simulator šŸ¤® šŸ¤® šŸ¤® worst decision

spice stag
cosmic minnow
#

Let them cook

fair osprey
#

Please, please bring back Regular Cashout. I was thinking Unranked tourneys, but that's what World Tour basically is anyway, so... Just please bring regular Cashout. What if people need a way to play that they're comfort with, or want to practice loadouts for World Tour? Quick Cash isn't good enough for that, they aren't the same.

Please. Please. please
i beg u

upper citrus
#

please use the same gold for everything this really sucks to see

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zinc carbon
#

Fix spear in PS it moves the entire platform side to side if you use the secondary attack lol

haughty bay
#

Horrible update

gilded wigeon
#

Bro I'm not a fan of the lh1 buff. Thing was already crazy

formal elm
#

Please fix riot shield visual bugs, when you pick up a carriable the shield will get much larger and block the whole screen rendering you pretty useless also when opening a vault and other motions that use the left hand it bugs out. Maybe for riot shield they always use right hand for such things

high silo
#

Kyoto has to be one of the ost cluttered maps ive ever played.

young smelt
#

make medium heal to 125 or 150 and heavy to 150 or 200. Light meta fixed

rugged ivy
#

gamemode: terminal attack
when?: preparation stage
what: Shooting/placing goo onto the blue prep wall keeps the goo floating in mid air after prep ends, causing impossible sniper towers and enabling rushed positions on either side.
Question: Is this good? Keep or remove?

vagrant raptor
#

can we fix the play again button on console. why was it changed to y when thats the same button for reporting someone.

in order to actually use it to find another game i have to report someone. might start doing that so some poor rando will get a cheater report after every game just so i donā€™t have to go to the main menu and go thru the menus to start another game.

grim patrol
#

Bring back limited time and previous season cosmetics, emotes, gestures, as stuff in the store that can be bought with multibucks if you missed the chance to get it for free during an event or in bulk with a battlepass

steep nacelle
#

Can we get a feature that would indicate to teammates that we do not want to be revived? Itā€™s getting on my nerves that Iā€™m a) getting revived in the middle of gunfights that I cannot really participate in Beyond immediately dying, or b) being revived while Iā€™m trying to change up loadouts/gadgets/contestants etc.

honest fractal
mossy cape
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theres this weird bug where terminal attack replaced tournaments in ranked. really annoying bug hope they fix it soon! literally inplayable! šŸ™‚

sharp eagle
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LH1 did not need a buff.
Sonar did not need a buff.
World Tour sucks. Either make it really ranked (bronze/silver/etc rewards) or let us leave if the match is going badly.
Lewis did not need to be nerfed.
Terminal Attack sucks. if i wanted to play CS/Valorant/Etc then i'd play those games.
Winch claw is really fucking stupid. have we not learned anything from original Roadhog hook, original stun gun, etc?
what is the point of the hammer now? the spear is better in every way.
this update is not very good.

vestal prairie
#

Maybe I'm ass but I've only been killed by an Lh1 my whole TA ranked experience so far

mossy otter
# civic oar A light can: - easily be taken out of stealth with one bullet and usually when t...

With the recent nerf to M60 and Lewis - Heavy is no longer as strong as it should and it used to be, combine the ease of movement of light with the high DPS and smaller size - it is "way" tougher to get a Light as compared to previous seasons. Finals has more factors to it than just DPS, it has movement, physical size and other dynamics, so your argument of "who survives in a direct 1v1 when both sides have perfect aim" kinda fails.

Env > Have you tried being a heavy in the region that's below that huge tower in kyoto? If you do not have a mesh shield, it is impossible to get past that area using the environment and buildings if a light is sitting at the top with a sniper. Worse if it is a Light stack.

Most of the weapons require skill? Sure! With the LH1, or the XP-54 and their concentrated sprays - why not? Lmao. You wanna test skill? Try using a Lewis now, try getting a kill once the recoil kicks in after the first few shots. Absolute madness and what are you saying they have no range lmao? most of the lights take that exact advantage of range using sniper/LH1/XP-54, ignorance much?

A heavy most certainly can't shut down a light with an rpg given the super ability of a light to escape. It's not like Heavy is good in stealth so 11/10 times it gets spotted first and is the prime target unless there's a healer nearby. The hook is only as good as you get a good shot which isn't always the case.

Do checkout Ottr's latest comparison of the weapons, it will help you understand more clearly how S2 and S3 have favored lights and how other classes are actually downgraded.

quick coyote
#

Game is worse then ever, we can all just admit it. Embark has NO idea how to balance a game. And whoever does the testing. LIke we saw videos of people playing S3 before release.. and all of this was okayed? what happens over at that studio dude do ya'll even play video games lol

haughty bay
#

Increase medium health and why we can have everything but hooded clothing

tribal spoke
#

Were the melee weapons designed to lose to other weapons at melee range? Cause I just lost to a medium body shotting me while I meleed them with the katanas, and I swung first

candid flower
#

Please bring back the old ranking system and remove ta as ranked i hate that im being forced to play it

wise falcon
#

Am I the only one who literally can't play ranked because somebody either leaves or crashes at the beginning and it cancels the game...

fervent vortex
#

add a ranked 3v3 mode and a casual version of it, basic last round rules, save the damn game

violet wing
echo void
#

Day 2 of asking THE FINALS to add Cat Ears to THE FINALS!

brave sable
#

TA ranked has potential but games are way too long especially when it goes all the way to round 13, gameplay is fun and frustrating idk how yā€™all managed thatšŸ«  skyway is a terrible map for this mode as well

regal salmon
#

Enjoying S3 so far. A few problems though:

  • Stun Gun reversion is bad. It's an auto-win versus 20% of the classes in the game (sword, dagger, spear, sledge, and flamer). Specialisations at least gave some counterplay. Right now it's a real feel bad for them.

  • Events are still largely pointless. Only low gravity and orbital lasers have any gameplay impact. Everything else just gets ignored by everyone.

  • We need more map variants. There's no unique Kyoto variant, and still no Horizon one. I miss the cool Vegas laser turrets too. Fog needs to be removed from rotation. It adds nothing, and is just an irritating visual downgrade.

  • Sword melee needs fixing still.

  • XP rates on some gadgets (Data Reshaper, Gravity Cube) needs rebalancing. It's nonexistent on some.

  • The stun needs removing from the winch. It gives free damage by disabling your opponent's gun for a second.

topaz swallow
stray vine
swift pulsar
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LH1 is cheap now :\ Drop its damage back down at least. Moving the break point for a weapon so strong is a bit silly.

storm siren
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this game is terrible now im not even gonna play this shit and ive grinded season 1 and 2 and enjoyed it but now im done with it.
medium has been nerfed to ground and just feel bad to use,
light lh1 was perfectly fine but go ahead and buff the strongest hitting gun and nerf everything to the ground.

young smelt
#

Terminal Attack being 90+% lights is most of the reason itā€™s not an enjoyable game mode to play. Thereā€™s no strategy itā€™s just kill kill kill. The awesome thing about end of season 2 cash out tournaments is that there was an actual strategy to the game.

Terminal Attack should be less about killing the whole other team and more about planting/defusing the key.

limpid rampart
#

Please remove Kyoto from the game, or at least terminal attack. The buildings are cancer to play in and I hate it. Maybe it's a skill issue, I don't know.

twin hatch
unreal kindle
#

Can't buy starter pack with last season's multibucks? ā˜¹ļø

frigid jolt
#

bring back cashout thx

rocky prairie
rotund hill
#

Anyone know how to enable push to talk on ps5. I can hear people but can't talk

sick basalt
#

I've one simple request, could you make the "terminal attack" option only to ranked and non-ranked terminal attack on fast play, unecessary to have to click 3 buttons to join a ranked match

orchid olive
#

The Finals remains my favorite game. However, the changes to ranked play in Season 3 are disappointing. Ranked matches are now locked under Terminal, and Cashout moved to the World Tour lacks true ranks, diminishing the drive to compete. This shift has led many of my friends to stop playing entirely, as ranked was our main motivation. While I continue to play the casual game modes, I hope the developers bring back Cashout ranked mode to restore the competitive edge that made the game unique and engaging.

paper hare
#

Is there a hotfix coming anytime soon? This shit is going to kill the game if it's not addressed in a matter of days

mossy otter
#

NERF LH1 PLEASE

glacial sierra
#

hanging on the loading screen after the round has started really really really fuckin sucks, especially when you've bothered to go through a ranked tournament and get to the final

brisk stump
#

NOT ALLOWING US TO USE IN GAME CURRENCY TO BUY THE SEASON 3 STARTER PACK IS A HORRIBLE FEELING CHANGE FOR THE SEASON. TY FOR THE FUN.

somber gyro
#

Why tf was the lh1 buffed

dusk kindle
#

fix fucking melee it does way to much dmg and why can it block my fucking shots i die becouse i hit a head shot on them thats so dumb

haughty bay
#

Take back update and increase health for medium with increased damage on shotgun

viral quiver
#

on xbox lag spiking becoming an issue

fleet panther
#

Gonna vent for 2 seconds by saying. why the hell can you lose RS on a win in TA when your KD was positive

opal plover
#

After playing for a while I've got to admit that World Tour lacks some of the charm of the old ranked because if you play Solo most of the times you are doomed, the chances of going with noobs, trolls or people leaving early are too high, and I've noticed there's a lot less players using the mic to communicate, not even the chat.

TA is nice but it also suffers from horrid matchmaking if you play solo, the difference between going with friends and solo is wild. So now playing solo is a lot less viable than it used to be, which I think will likely throw a lot of people off, even if you got TA feeling a lot better now (I do think it's very enjoyable if you get a team that actually wants to try and knows how to play the game).

That said, give us 9 loadouts please, I want to buy more skins but I lack a reason because I don't have slots. Give us 3 extra loadout slots and you'll get insta $50 from me in multibucks. There's too many cool skin and weapon combos to be locked to just 6 loadouts.

onyx tiger
#

More load outs could never hurt

cosmic ether
candid flower
#

When you fight a medium with dual swords and you have a dagger you wont do anything to him because he could just block all your attacts so dumb plz fix

untold meadow
#

DO NOT PLAY THIS RANK MODE!... thats on a 4th win streak.... not worth getting diamond or rudy tbh

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rigid perch
#

ye its either all light or smth dumb

tawny karma
#

the spear hit registration is total garabge

rare kiln
#

the bug when you have 2 cash out boxes in world tour, one of them vanishes at random points in the game please get this fixed it's been in the game since season 1, would appreciate it.

upper citrus
#

3.0 was probably the worst patch this game has ever seen

silent summit
#

U made someting unique ! Which is the cashout ! Its different and beautiful ! Why u copy past from other games like valo cs or cod (TA) and make it ur core ranked mode !! ????

eternal aspen
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also not loading in to world tour and then being banned from leaving matchmaking when i had to force quit otherwise be stuck in an infinit load screen sucksalso not loading in to world tour and then being banned from leaving matchmaking when i had to force quit otherwise be stuck in an infinit load screen sucksalso not loading in to world tour and then being banned from leaving matchmaking when i had to force quit otherwise be stuck in an infinit load screen sucks

cold bolt
#

both lmg nerfs on heavy make them both pretty poop compared to sa12/hammer + winch/mesh

problem with heavy (in a ranked cash out context) is literally everything but their lmgs lolololol

mortal ridge
#

I would rather deal with MHH composition in cashout than deal with 5 lights all running LH1s, sniper rifles, sonar grenades, and invis. It's impossible to go against. You get picked off from across the map and what can you do? Absolutely fucking nothing. This game is not balanced for Terminal Attack. If you're not running lights with long range guns, you get 0-7ed every single game. It's stupid as fuck.

misty brook
#

Bro I just got into a game that already started and spawned next to a cash out so I died including it doesn't help that a light person was permanently invisible on my screen

rapid stream
terse lark
#

please rework cloak to have low activation cost but run out faster the longer cloak is active. this way you aren't punished for activating your cloak and instead punish cloak users for staying invis too long and camping with it. it would also differentiate cloak and vanish bomb more (cloak for using invis in quick short bursts during fights, and vanish bomb for safely getting away when low or to sneak up on players) being able to toggle invis on and off is what makes cloak good, using up a 3rd of the ability to activate cloak sucks. as it is rn, it feels just like vanish bomb but in your specialization slot

midnight bison
#

sometimes the game just keeps loading forever on ranked ta

sick basalt
#

I've just changed my mind just bring cash out to ranked is the best thing in the game wtf are you trying to do competing with cs or valorant, you guys already have the best game mode available

crude bronze
#

Please don't force me to play a competitive match before playing a casual match. I was trying to have fun with a friend of mine, but she couldn't play any game mode other than competitive before playing a competitive round. We didn't have much time to play, so this immediately ruled out finals as an option. Please don't do this.

restive crow
#

Please increase light's HP to 500 so that the game can be balanced..

mossy otter
vestal prairie
dusk kindle
#

i don't know what your smoking blackburn and hexbyte but that would make light op. the deves should add it so if you are claiming the cashout it doesn't cashout if someone is claiming

balmy spoke
#

this is straight up embarassing ā˜ ļø

Playing 8 matches to get this isnt a fair assumption of skill, especially considering teammates, game conditions, etc.

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azure harness
#

me personally.. im not posting a bronze 4 placement

leaden light
#

I JUST GOT SOLO CUED IN A RANKED MATCH

quick coyote
#

Nerf LH1 ridiculously broken

proven parcel
#

NEXON FORCED EMBARK TO ADD TERMINAL ATTACK

candid flower
#

Im Top 500 but im not even plat yet im still gold this game is cooked so this means i would get the ruby ak while im gold like how do you mess up that bad the ranking system was perfectly fine last season why would they ever touch it so dumb i hope they make alot of changes next update cant wait till next season already tired of it

fervent coral
#

So when we adding cashout back to ranked

ivory stream
oak night
sonic spoke
#

Absolutely love the new map. The detail is so great!

drifting atlas
sonic drum
#

Hi

vast obsidian
#

Fix to buy new packs with gold, strengthen Medium, remove the damned terminal rank, this season will have a lot fewer players than last season

broken geyser
#

PLS GIVE MORE CHARACTER SLOTS EMBARK

dusty bramble
#

put mouse and keyboard support on consoleshug_friend

wise cliff
#

Please stop slowing down movement, Embark. We need precise controls, not slower ones, and sliding before using a jump pad to cross a longer distance felt good and was useful, now there are spots in the maps that cannot be crossed using a jump pad anymore.

gleaming star
rough herald
#

Light is not under power

DO NOT BUFF LIGHT!! i can still rick shit form every so often, other wise we will have the same heavy vs light problem but its light vs medium this time
just nerf the problem child aka heavy weapon dude and we're golden

and if you want to buff light all you have to do is revert some changes

onyx hound
#

why the hell did they do all these weird game mode changes, everyone is leaving normal terminals and games jsut end and i cant even play the new map cause i cant get it in any other mode like wtf whats new this season some reskined melee weapons?

round lagoon
#

I love TA ranked

untold meadow
slender cipher
#

Not gonna lie, report system needs a "report for toxicity" button, dunno why it doesn't.
Combat score farming in ranked needs to be addressed, theres a lot of fake gold and platinum ranked individuals thanks to this.
Terminal attack has its own place in this game, it does not deserve a ranked mode, keep ranked tournament, not TA.

quick coyote
#

Everyone hates TA we love the finals for the unique game it is please keep it that way. TA was a limited time event people played for shoes yet you use those numbers to replace it with cashout? People play this game casually more than competitively. (I play it both ways) So ofc TA would have more people in it when it was casual a lot of FPS games are like that. What you did with the game and world tour is amazing how you can progress even playing casually but ranked cashout should have never been taken out. With the cashout ranked changes us cashout enjoyer (the majority of your game) feel like you are telling us one thing and doing another.

odd flax
#

SOMETIMES STUCK ON LOADING SCREEEN, THIS HAPPEN TO ME SINCE SEASON 1 WHEN EMBARK FIX THIS BUG!!
IT'S SUCKS WHEN PLAYING RANKED, ALWAYS GETTING PINALTY AND CAN'T RECONNECT.

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mossy otter
fervent vortex
restive crow
fading plover
#

Will the season 3 starter pack stay $9.99 all season or will is change eventually to 1,150 multibucks like last season?

velvet inlet
#

Could it be posible to make face paint and tattoos into separated customizeable options?

ivory quail
#

Please get rid of the 5 TA games requirement for new players. My friends will not play until that is removed

manic steppe
#

LFG TA DIAMOND PLAYER SNIPER

candid flower
#

Lh1 is so bad its unusable the dps should be 70 plz buffā˜¹ļø

rare kiln
#

Please start banning people for teaming, smh šŸ¤¦šŸæā€ā™‚ļø

hoary cedar
#

EMBARK!! GIVE THE UNNAMED ANNOUNCER IN THE BACKGROUND MORE VOICE LINES, AND MY LIFE IS YOURS!

graceful needle
#

Okay, so I tried getting some of my friends to play The Finals. Want to know what turned them off? REQUIRED TERMINAL ATTACK!!! It's one thing to push Terminal Attack, IT IS A WHOLE OTHER THING TO REQUIRE 5 TERMINAL ATTACK SESSIONS!!!

Needless to say, between this, and the current bugs plaguing Season 3 Update, all but 2 uninstalled. WHOEVER CAME UP WITH THE REQUIRED TERMINAL ATTACK IDEA NEEDS TO BE TARRED AND FEATHERED

vocal jewel
#

embark rework your world tournament. dont put 4 teams in one fucking map and let 3 teams spawn so damn close

drowsy grove
#

Won a game vs a cheater and we lost points :))))))

fervent citrus
# velvet nexus can we just stop listening to the loud complainer light class players? its liter...

Facts. I barely play dash light mp5 and sub par with it, but once you know what to do it clicks. Won a match in season 2 with cashouts completed as 2/0/0 against a lobby with 6 heavies with another light and medium on my team, using basic things like the traversal options, faster movement speed, smaller build, and that they have no healer. They can't move fast? Then start the cashout at the farthest location. They have no mobility? Take the high ground. They can one shot you? Let them fight each other first, it's a battle of attrition with 3 heavies vs 3 heavies. What happens if they do a 2 mesh shields and 3 dome shields start capping your cashout? Use the small build, dash in there, headshots only point blank, then get out. Didn't use stun instead used pyro against shields. Granted, still died alot but the regen change should fix that this season and rpg should be a destruction tool instead of a source for high damage.

lime rampart
#

Bring back the old ranked cashout please

idle geyser
#

I gained 0 rank for this game bro and lost rank on another 7-1 win unreal, how the hell am i supposed to be able to climb if i cant even gain rank on wins??????

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stark onyx
#

hey I am a PC player and i have an issue with the WEAPON WHEEL setting in the key binds it actually is not working I don't know if there is an issue with controller but hope you patch it in the next patch notes

unique meteor
#

Hear me out.. the player base is divided over Terminal Attack (TA) and Cashout Ranked, I personally didn't expect this much backlash over a change but it is what it is, but there are players who love cashout but would rather play TA ranked over Cashout ranked and then there's new players who might play either one, i get that the maps are 'too big' for TA and it needs some more changes to make it work which i assume they are working on from the feedback, even the devs believe TA could be more competitive and balanced for comp scene BUT people just want cashout ranked.
So what I'm saying is why cant we have two ranked modes? don't blame the queue times if you prefer playing one or the other mode, or is it balancing for two modes? well we already have rulesets solely for TA and we can have separate rules for both, its better to have options than forcing players who do not want to play cashout for its never changing meta or the issues with 3rd or 4th partying or the matchmaking. This way we might get more players playing ranked or get enough data if TA doesn't work at all.
On that note i do have a couple cashout changes which i think will make it fair,
Split the total amount of cash between teams who hold it the most, i.e. team A hold the cashout for 60% and team B steals it and takes the rest 40% so if the station was cashing out 10k team A and B would get 6 and 4k respectively.
Randomise/Procedural spawns of cashout stations.
Randomise spawns close to the objective, like close to 100m from the obj. spawning 200m or half way across the map right at the end to steal or defend your obj is so frustrating.
Remove SBMM. RBMM or MMR is the way. This goes for casual modes too

tepid osprey
daring fossil
reef tangle
#

I don't know what's happened since season three, but an as Asia/OCE player I always have high ping and the game is now unplayable

I thought the FCAR had been nerfed into the ground, then I went into the training to realise it doesn't feel different at all. It's just in case my hits aren't actually registering at all.
I feel like I have a 50% damage debuff trying to play, it's literally that bad.

I also cannot find any ranked games in OCE, so I play on Asia, which normally was barable, but now it's unplayable.

stoic cosmos
#

Make these fast changes to TA and the Season might be saved:
ā€¢ Gadgets should recharge but at a slower rate
ā€¢ Full HP regen
ā€¢ Ability to revive/defib
ā€¢ Ability to heal - gun will overheat faster tho
ā€¢ Class limit to two
ā€¢ Best out of 5

iron berry
#

thats just a worse cashout

half an hour cooldown is crazy

lament mango
#

half-hourly reminder: bring back ranked cashout asap

austere agate
#

When will medium characters be given even a little bit of chasing ability? Medium melee is really the worst thing about this game.

mild ruin
#

add ALL chat in game

rough wraith
#

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GPU Crash: Begin: Scene - DiffuseIndirectAndAO - DDGI RTRadiance x

why i crashed

vestal coral
#

as I imagined from day 1 of the game, the game would be ruined by whiny main light kids and melee weapon loving noobs. The light ones who cry from day 1 for every fucking thing, the light ones if you know how to play a minimum are really strong, but the light ones are never happy they always ask for buffs they want more damage they want more mobility they want more health! you are ridiculous, you are only interested in being the most op, not caring about other classes and team play just to make kill videos and feel like a pro player and imitate streamers, the abuse of light is shameful. Learn to play light and be a team player instead of asking them to make your life easier. However, if the game is in this situation it is the fault of the developers who do not have the courage to make their own decisions and listen to and follow the community too much.

eager sonnet
#

Show ping in the leaderboard, at least for yourself

bright fog
#

there needs to be punishments for people leaving ranked games..... this is stupid. every single game ive played someone has left. the one i just played half the team left...........

haughty bay
#

Horrible update, put devs to get publicly stoned

@vocal jewel lol nice one

unreal quail
#

i.. uhā€¦ reporting u

vocal jewel
#

I know embark likes to get fucked by 3 dicks at the same time

rancid urchin
#

plz fix the connection issues in the game,i finished the attackers side and while "rebuilding the arena for next round" i am getting disconnected and wow a 2hr suspension thank you embark

fringe sequoia
#

BRING BACK CASHOUT RANKED PLZ

quick coyote
#

ā€¢ nerf LH1

ā€¢ buff 93R

ā€¢ Nerf RPG

ā€¢ Buff / revert m60

vivid socket
#

When is embark going to do something about this horrific game mode TA ranked

cold bolt
#

terminal attack is just terminal cancer

LH1 invis light meta

revert to cash out and don't even bother balancing around this awful gamemode

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rustic tinsel
#

goo is still weird. Even if you hit an enemy, the enemy can walk out, and even when you hit an enemy using a zipline, the enemy ignores it and passes by, and when you use a goo gun, the goo that hits the enemy doesn't break as easily as before. Please fix goo like goo patch before. Make goo work as before, but just fix the issue where players can crash into goo on moving platforms and get stuck.

storm siren
#

Me n a friend joined casual some1 left and game ended after 30 seconds, he was a new comer and he said ya im done with this, why cant some1 join and fill there spot?

Fix ur game im tryna bring my friends here and they are just saying nah i dont like this.

plain patio
#

pls pls get rid of TA ranked. it is horrible in every single way, TA is fun as a gamemode here and there but not the games main competitive mode. i literally will not be playing ranked ever again until its back to what it is

runic thunder
#

Please neft LH1

austere agate
#

It seems that some people hate melee players. But this game allows melee as the main weapon and that's the fact. Light characters have dodge and hook, heavy characters have glue guns, collisions and iron claws, only medium characters' melee are worried about chasing people every day. If you want to refute this, please try to catch up with me with a riot shield or dual swords. I will use a medium and fight you on the springboard until the end of the game, so that you will look like a clown, or I can use a heavy to hit you like a big truck, or use a light to walk you like a dog. Medium melee is useless, that's the fact.

mild ruin
#

TA and Bank It = cancer modes for Lights
also, if we watch on steam charts, starting 2nd season of the finals, bring back 45k players on steam, that season made only 32k... devs doing something weird things, i think its because ranked

safe hinge
#

i had hopes that s3 would magically be good, but this might be the worst update in gaming history. Somehow you guys managed to make 5 completely worthless new items, make the skill ceiling on heavy EVEN LOWER (i didn't think this could be done), remove all reason to be competitive in ranked, and usher in the worst meta possible. please please please just undo it all, you guys have always been good at listening to the players

lament mango
#

half hourly reminder: bring back ranked cashout asap

haughty bay
#

Half hourly reminder : you have ruined the game watch the player count go below 10k

balmy spoke
drifting thistle
#

this season kunai really good so over rated. High damage, fast fire rate, no need recharge. better than genji haha

quick coyote
#

powershift ranked should be a thing, because why terminal when you can also do powershift with friends.

pearl rune
#

it seems that throwing knives instakill other lights at point blank even if they're not trying because the height they spawn at causes accidental headshots

marsh halo
leaden stream
#

Power Shift is the best game mode in The Finals, thank you Embark!

vocal jewel
#

divide the map into 2 parts or just make this mode for 2 squads only, unless you love to get fucked by 3 dicks at the same time

glacial geyser
#

hilarious that text chat doesn't work when it switches to loading screen šŸ˜…

glacial abyss
#

Have yall seen how the spears interact with the power shift thing its breaks the game if you get a couple heavyā€™s with it

severe vigil
#

Shorten rank matches please, its such a pain. Also punishment for leavers isn't severe enough

elfin glacier
#

facts. my last 3 placement matches someone has left in the 2nd or 3rd round and we have to sit there and suffer through a godawful sweep knowing its going to hurt our placement. Doesnt even matter if we win the 1st round. if we lose the second someone leaves and its over. it wouldn't be so bad if it didnt take 20 minutes for our punishment to end.

vale acorn
#

We lack a belt region for cosmetics

vapid pine
#

Bring back ranked cashout

jaunty copper
#

hi I hope you are well.

I keep getting put in a lobby with only 1 other person in the new event (world tour) , Probably the last 7 games I have played it was a 2v3 or 1v3 , how am i suppose to rank up if I cant even play in a full team??

and it is wasting my time that I could of ranked up and get the rewards so that i can buy the battle pass šŸ˜¦

please help me this is not a fun experience.

kind regards šŸ™‚ COBOSS7

sinful wigeon
#

im sorry someone ran with the cashout thing when they have 1 cashout already ended and they ran for a total of 3 minutes on kyoto. I need to hear why they don't have it to where you have to get both cashouts to win, we couldn't see the cash box, it wouldn't show them at all and we had no clue where they were at all. How come there isn't a thing to where it goes into overtime until someone gets both cashouts? Finals, please do something about these things that make the game worse, sorry for yapping but holy crap that ruined it

manic steppe
#

Fire the person who pushed Terminal Attack for the only Ranked. Put back ranked cashout. World tour is great for casual gaming but does not have the same feel or gameplay ranked had just feels like quick play.

rare kiln
#

Their should be zero reason as to why I canā€™t even play this game on 120 FPS without getting kicked out and I have a 5700 G with 3060 ti

late fern
#

Okay

bright fog
earnest badge
drifting thistle
#

make a better respawn system, not fixed location and quick cash suppose to be fast game not a marathon

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crisp heart
#

pls address the issue of getting punished for not actually leaving. just had a loading screen stuck so i had to alt + f4, reconnect, by the time i get back theres 3 seconds left on the timer because other people left and the game is ending. it ends and i get a 30 min cooldown. wtf. i did nothing wrong

loud night
#

love love looooove the new map very well done makes great use of destructability to open new paths and the verticality is awesome

obsidian cargo
#

terminal attack is just terminal cancer
LH1 invis light meta
revert to cash out and don't even bother balancing around this awful gamemode

crisp cobalt
#

how to report cheater team

lament mango
#

half-hourly reminder: bring back ranked cashout asap

obsidian solar
#

BUFF THE RIOT SHIELD:
Here are a few ways that can improve the shield, as it underperforms against any other ranged and melee weapon. I know all of these together would make the shield pretty strong but even 1 or 2 would be enough to improve it so much!:

  • While blocking movement speed should be the same as walking (increasing block movement speed would help a lot in pushing and giving your teammates support)
  • The shield should block a larger area of the body to make it more consistent at blocking melee, bullets, and splash damage. Players with decent aim can easily hit the arms and legs which defeats the whole purpose of it.
  • Blocking melee attacks should inflict a knockback to prevent melee weapons from clipping through and scoring a second hit with the active frames.
  • Increase the melee range, even just +1m of range would make it feel so much better to catch enemies that were just outside your range before.
  • Electrify the baton and allow it to glitch enemies for a very short period, it would provide a lot of team utility and prevent dash lights and charge and slam heavies from effortlessly hard countering shielders

FIX THE RIOT SHIELD BUGS:

  • When picking up throwables in the arena, the first person shield model gets messed up and blocks your entire screen.
  • Remove the fov and turning speed reduction when you raise the shield to block, it makes it overly clunky to use and feels terrible in a fast pace environment.

HOLDING THE DAGGER BACKSTAB:

  • Make it so you can hold the backstab and it's not a forced animation, revert it like it was in the Open Beta

GIVE SMOKE GRENADES TO ALL CLASSES:

  • Give smoke grenade to all classes! It would open so many strategies for the other builds! I would use smoke so much if it was on medium, especially to better support my team against fire, detection sources, or to help revive teammates, and steal cashouts in an open area.

FIX THE GLITCH TRAP:

  • Glitched heavy can still use the winch claw and it doesn't stop chargeNslam
cold bolt
#

im not reading all that but buff riot shield by adding three more riot shields to cover all sides, I think that would be epic and fair

manic prairie
#

i have been stuck few times in loading screen.rest of players play just fine.....need fix that bug

vocal jewel
#

embark loves to get fucked by 3 fat cocks at the same time, do not put 4 teams on 1 map, the most trash mode ever. embark fix your garbage game. DO NOT PUT 4 TEAMS ON ONE MAP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! AND WITH 2 FUCKING CASH BOX, ALWAYS 3 TEAMS FIGHTING FOR ONE, THE OTHER JUST SIT THERE AND NOBODY GIVES A FUCK, AND FIX YOUR SPAWN SYSTEM, DO NOT PUT 3 TEAMS SO DAMN CLOSE

violet jungle
#

I fell from Kyoto map into oblivion.. And the claw made Heavies even more oppressive than before... They did not need it

lofty sail
#

I have played this game since beta ,i have 372 hours in this game because of the main game that is cash out and now you guys put this boring game call Terminal attack that is basically getting fuck by lights in every fucking game,you cant play with the heavy now cauze u guys nerf the lewis and m60 making the bullets look like marshmallows when u shoot , im not coming back until u bring back cashouts ranked

winter vapor
#

3rd time queing in the new map in power shift consecutively out of like 5 maps,

FIX THIS

drowsy wharf
#

I don't know if you have considered doing a hall of casual social mode, players can wear their own clothes in the hall to move freely and socialize, there can be some small games for players to entertain, and even a large screen to play some of the top players against the video broadcast. This social venue can use some maps that were used for competitions before, such as Las Vegas, and I always think it's a shame that Las Vegas has beautiful maps that are just used to destroy and match.

rough herald
#

80 damage min + 15 damage hook is 95 damage which is way too much
mostly the rpg flaut tho

also remove the stun form the hook and to compensate remove that animation where it foces the hooked play to look at the hook user

odd cedar
daring fossil
#

obvious outfit idea: Geisha, with ornamental hair pin skin for throwing knives

dim kelp
#

The rpg needs a nerf but it doesnā€™t need a damage nerf, what I suggest is making the weapon swap speed, mainly with switching back to your normal gun after firing the rpg, take much longer, that way when you use it mid fight, the enemy gets a chance to just shoot at you, meaning it isnā€™t just a free bit of damage anymore

vestal coral
#

if you want to send a strong message and you want things to change, stop playing the finals, just so they can really understand that things are not going well.

vapid pine
#

Bring back ranked cashout

vale crescent
#

xan you do something about the RS lose in ranked when someone leave the game? i had a couple of games where we were 4vs5 after the game we lose cca 600rs ... nobody want to stay in game 4vs5 ..just put q surrender vote or something and penalty us much less?...

pallid aspen
#

Need Jaz or something in the black screen while changing teams in ta

earnest badge
fading hinge
#

Please limit classes to two per team meaning: One team can only have 2 lights or 2 heavyā€™s etc. This would balance the 5 Stack light abuse rank is currently seeing.

plain patio
#

so true banana

coral pivot
lament mango
grim scaffold
swift horizon
#

Can Embark please make "I dare you" sword emote show the max level skin of the sword? or maybe a optional toggle for it, and while you're at that, do the same for other emotes like the bow, the ak, ect

hardy bridge
#

Buff cloak again or revert cloak nerf

loud night
#

thank you for adding text chat Embark very cool -

@ below, in fairness this is specifically the channel to cry in

quick coyote
#

My God this community is shit, can ya'll stop being such a cry babies

lofty gust
#

Terminal Attack needs to go.
Us as players donā€™t like it for ranked, new players feel the same for unranked. Picture yourself, loading into your first game of THE FINALS, expecting chaos and destruction. Yet you are met with five rounds of TA, where you get mild destruction, a little chaos. I get that it ā€œintroduces themā€ but on the other hand it doesnā€™t show the full potential of how fun THE FINALS can be. As a new player, I would rather be forced to play 50 rounds of quick cash, than put myself through five rounds of TA. As a player from Season 1, I used to have so much fun in S1 and S2 playing Ranked cash out with my friends, but TA just isnā€™t fun. I donā€™t find myself with the motivation to play ranked anymore. I know there is world tour but I have always wanted a diamond skin, so if it stays as TA I will probably never get one.

junior trellis
#

I am once again asking for an abondon penalty. 40% of my games have me down 2 teammates. It is not fun to play when you are down in numbers. Punish players for repeatedly leaving mid-match. It's SO ANNOYING

eternal valley
umbral dock
#

this might go without saying but i hope embark shows nexon the huge amount of negative feedback recieved regarding making terminal attack the main game mode and end it

quick coyote
#

BUFF M60 and very tiny buff to Lewis gun. Good heavy players used them and with slight adjustments, they will be perfect.

The balancing change to heavies LMGs currently only encourages bad heavy players who use RPG and charge and slam to crutch them even more. Same goes for good heavy players, which is just absolutely not fun to trade my earned recoil muscle memory for relying on the no skill required gadgets.

BUFF M60 AND LEWIS

NERF OP UTILITY (RPG / CHARGE)

strong vessel
#

You can do that for the basic case, but people who would want to could get around it easily

scarlet sedge
#

There's this one zipline in Seoul that's bugged out; I thought it was my account but apparently NO ONE can use it. It's the one where it brings you up to this metal pathway which is above the cashout on the wall (cashout located at the second floor)

wise cliff
#

If you guys don't wanna bring back ranked tournament because you want to rework it and bring it back better than ever in s4 that's cool but you really have to at the very least bring casual single round cashout back in some shape or form. The mode that will be used for twitch rivals is literally unplayable in the casual playlist and the only version you can play is the World Tour tournament one (which won't be used in twitch rivals because it literally cannot be used). New players are going to come to the game looking for Cashout.

You also need to disable the requirement of playing 5 matches of TA in order to unlock the other modes, this will leave a very sour taste in new players looking for the game they saw their favorite streamers play.

earnest gust
#

For terminal attack, since it's the r6 siege gamemode and siege maps aren't that entirely big, why not make it so a medium portion of the map is used each round instead of the whole map, those barriers that prevent players from exploring too early could also be used to close off the rest of the map.

Also, terminal is a bad mode, it completely takes away from what the hook of the Finals is.

tough sapphire
twin slate
#

broo server is laggingggggg in kyoto

spiral wren
#

The ranking system is fun, but the point system is trash. Please make the point gains and losses fixed.

lament mango
#

half-hourly reminder: bring back ranked cashout asap

hexed crown
#

Stuck at loading screen again.....

haughty niche
#

give sword back gadget swapping

teal minnow
#

Double Blades won't deflect LH1

vapid pine
#

Bring back ranked cashout. No more cooking Embark.

jaunty copper
#

and again i join a match in world tour that its 1v 3 .....HOW>>> its like the 5th time if not more ....

native mason
#

Add mause and keyboard support to console pls (to make it fair just do this like, if you dont have crossplay on you cant use keyboard)

feral shell
#

Terminal Attack is horribly balanced right now. There are too many high damage weapons that one shot at 100HP. Invisibility, mines, RPG, charge and slam and turrets do not belong in a competitive mode. All damage being output should be directly from primary fire not passive gadgets.

spark briar
#

how is this Hook-spear duo exactly suppoused to work with DASH DASH DASH, "come check this, bastard" face in the lights?

stark notch
fading hinge
#

@grim scaffold This is just a biased response towards cash out. They changed it to TA and we canā€™t do anything about it now except give our feedback to make our game experience better. It will limit how many cloaked lights you will find sitting around and as soon as you focus one all of them un cloak LH1. It will force more competitive team cohesion and build synergy.

patent torrent
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was asleep during the nvidia stream because I had night shift work, but would still like to earn the nvidia drop eventually, will there be another time I would be able to get the drop by watching nvidia stream the game?

stiff gale
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Light is actually to strong, like LH1 15 bullet laser shoot, bow head shot you dead, sword and dash is invincible build how can you compete again this shit

tame glen
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Alright... I've given it a go. I put a lot of time in ranked last season. I have to say--not a huge fan. It's terrorists vs counter terrorists... if i wanted that I'd play CS. It's fine if people like this mode, but for those of us older games who were sick of the format... Just make world tour ranked as well. It was something semi novel-new with the team synergies. This crap is BOOOOOOOOOORING to me. Sure it's sweaty on a rare occasion, but overall... snore.

sterile ermine
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not sure if its as such an issue in other regions but OCE is ranked has only a small scene to the point where the ranked gap between teams can be great enough for a team to win and lose points

this may not be a problem later in the season especially if the player base gets fleshed out but seeing some sort of minimum points gained when a game is won could be something to consider

hasty grove
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bring back ranked cashout.

misty jasper
# vestal coral as I imagined from day 1 of the game, the game would be ruined by whiny main lig...

light was and might still be the weakest class. this is coming from a medium and heavy main. they tweaked LH1 too much cuz its too strong now but heavy and med were really strong. cashout had barely any lights every game. Now, heavy is lacking in TA ranked, but i think its roughly pretty fair atm. j gonna play more and see if meta shifts in TA ranked.

Lmao @mossy otter @restive crow yall are not even a week into this season and already complaining. i literally said i was gonna play more to see what the meta is and yall are complaining about that. my opinion isn't even solid, but you guys do you and hate on the game more

lament mango
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half-hourly reminder: bring back ranked cashout asap

coral cosmos
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matchmaking 10/10 we are 24k Gold and play against full team of 38k plats

mossy otter
outer mica
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It makes absolutely no sense to play ranked right now.

You play 3 hours straight win everything. You get 300-400 elo every match.

But if you lose 1 match against some no ranked new account rage hacker, you lose 1000 elo +

Thatā€™s so frustrating,ā€¦

Just do it like in CS2 where you only loose a lot of elo if you are on a losing streak. Why invest time in this game when your hard work is not rewarded or you need to be just luck to face no cheaters.

restive crow
lime fable
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This game is dead on console, the player base is 80% pc, no one casual plays this game anymore, just sweaty passionate people who think they can be the next esports pro in a game that is not gonna get one, this game was fun in season 1 and the reason for that was the game didnā€™t take things too serious and the chaos was there, fast forward and cashout feels like a running simulator even if no one want to admit it but the action is lacking, TA just isnt what the finals is supposed to be e.g. the gadgets, maps, class system, weapons do not support this mode so ofcourse it would fail, powershift is fun however due incentive people just treat it like a tdm, this game has the potential to be great but its to late to recoup the player base as unfortunately people r stupid and make there decision at first glance not the second or third. I love the style this game has except the stupid new anime skin which frankly looks like fortnight, this game suffers from an identity crisis. I play this game casual but cant play with friends as the sbmm is to harsh meaning my friends get destroyed and dont want to continue playing, this happens in all modes which is frustrating as every match im in seems to be full of sweats, maybe im a sweat also but inwould like one mode where i could relax as im forced to play this game solo šŸ˜¦ overall i think this game should focus on the destruction and chaos aspects of the game, i want this game to be crazy not just another run and gun but i dont think that will happen tbh, also i find ranked to be a waste of time, people want the skins sure but the rank means nothing in my eyes just time played the whole transparency thing is just a way to hide from the players there true skill so they dont get butt hurt, shame the world is like this where we cater to the most stupid individuals but it makes sense as there r more of them than a conscious individual

tawdry owl
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A cape?

grim scaffold
# fading hinge <@334313361808424961> This is just a biased response towards cash out. They chan...

not biased. they said the game is high octane fast paced and all the stuff, many people went just for this experience, and now they take it and force people to play unbalanced TA.

the problem with this mode is that they have to rebalance EVERYTHING. maps, guns, classes etc. the game was made for cashout and trying to force TA while balance is for high paced cashout is as bad as it can get.

i joined to play fast paced high octane shooter, but not another CoD or Siege S&D, and i think many people are here for the same reason.

also: yes we can do anything, we can tell them that this mode does not belong as a ranked mode and they must put it out.

woven viper
feral mirage
unique steeple
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LH1 Is too strong, and that goes for playing WITH it and playing against it. I really just feel sad when i'm using it because of how overly unbalanced it is

lofty gust
sacred inlet
hazy sequoia
# lime fable This game is dead on console, the player base is 80% pc, no one casual plays thi...

the dual swords for medium makes you feel stupid for using them. Like the main problem with melee in the first place is that melee is never meant for medium players as they have 0 advantages over other classes. The light has agility and have the abilty to attack and evade at will using his fast pace movement speed and its dashes or hook. Ontop of that giving him the dagger which basically gives you the power to one shot any enemy(you can still insta kill heavy if you add the basic quick elbow attack). At the current state if you ever face a light player running a sword and dashes build you should stop playing and wait for your teamates to revive your body. As a heavy you may be slow but you can do alot of damage to the point where you can one shot a light which is respectable since the agility for the heavy class is not that great. Adding the chain pulling ability means its more about aim then movement. However the medium class can not beat a light player even by stealth since you require 2 hits to kill him and he outruns you. The dual swords suck since they are basically just a worse version of the riot shield. the twin swords need a buff for example you become faster if someone is shooting you and you are blocking. This is not the best cure as you still have NO CHANCE to beat a heavy using a hammer or flamethrower. The heavy wants you to get closer to him even by using his chain ability and will outrade you in damage.

cursive warren
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QQL Game FeedBack:

Ping System
ā€¢ During gameplay, pinging something near (For example) a cashout icon will only ping the cashout when a player really was pinging an enemy team who is placed past the cashout icon, it leads to frustration in terms of visual communication via ping.

Fix
ā€¢ Make the ping system more precise so itā€™s less frustrating for a player to give visual feedback.

wooden prairie
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Hello! I just wanted to say that I do like the RP ranking system it works very well and is a massive upgrade from last season but it would also be great if there were two ranked gamemodes kinda like cs with wingman and comp where you have a seperate rank for both and then justr add back cashout tournament. World Tour is a great addition and does feed that cashout fiend in me but it just doesn't have the same feel when all I get are some season points that can't even decrease

mossy karma
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Ranked TA is so much boring and unbalanced. I remember devs said they'll rework TA for ranked but the only difference between previous TA and current is amount of rounds and the fact that now you have to interact with terminal as attacker to start timer...

IMO TA will be so much better if there will be:
ā€¢ Defibrillators and Heal beams
ā€¢ Limit of 2 L/M/H players in a team
ā€¢ Passive healing to full HP
ā€¢ If you don't want to turn full HP passive healing make amount of HP which can be restored correlate with player's class total HP

Everyone walks with 100 HP after being damaged but its 2/3 of L total HP and less than 1/3 of total H HP

If so M should have around 166 HP and H around 233 ā€” that will be fair

wispy latch
# lime fable This game is dead on console, the player base is 80% pc, no one casual plays thi...

The casuals leave because itā€™s always the same mode, after season 1 they ruined the game with patches (maybe embark listen to those wannabe gfuel no life no wife gamer) game is absolutely bad balanced and I have like over 300+ players in my friend list and not one single of them play this game. You see always light class with the Meta weapons spraying with a mp easy across the map and you just dead šŸ’€

royal gust
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Let the devs cook they said, play the mode they said. Well cooking class is over because I'm ready to roast the fuck out of this abomination of a ranked mode Gordon Ramsey style. Like I'm sure investors have Embark by the balls at this point. There is no way you guys spend multiple year to create a fun and refreshing gameplay experience just to throw it in the trash without no warning. I'm sure the investors were like "why is this game losing players"? "I have head this new game called Valorant is hip with the kids, you guys make that instead or we pull our funding". We are now left with a "tac shooter" where the tactical meta is just to jump on the enemy team with 5 lights running LH1!?!?! Congratulation for turning our favorite game into shit Valorant.

And before people say "skill issue" šŸ¤”. My squad consists of 5 diamond players and we have currently played 16 games with an 80% win rate (counting cheater losses). We are bored every game we play and 50% of the people we used to play The Finals with have now left before trying the mode. The most fun part with playing Terminal Illness Attack is to joke about how boring the mode is and "how much fun we are having now guys, right, right?" We only play it for the Diamond reward at this point and we need to win like 40 games!!! People lose multiple times what they get from a win just because they get against good players or cheaters that has not placed yet and some people are even losing MMR from wins!? And this full ranked reset just make us feel bad for 7-0 little Timmy and his friends who just wanted to test the finals for the first time, we are legit decreasing the player numbers at this point šŸ˜‚

Even if all goes well how are you guys going to balance these completely different 2 modes at the same time.
(Credit to Fero)

distant oar
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We need someone at Embark who can deliver balance changes faster than a weekly basis. The game's meta changes basically every week because of the drastic changes made, but putting out more minor changes until people reach a more general consensus would probably be more beneficial to the game's community health by allowing the meta to change more often than a weekly basis, and the game bleeds players quickly after the release of every season due to a gun being too overpowered or underpowered

carmine orbit
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I want a performance enhancing device that maintains 100 life for light (for a short period of time.)

tawny karma
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spear right click sucks and is inconsistent

native mason
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Add mause and keyboard support to console pls (to make it fair just do this like, if you dont have crossplay on you cant use keyboard)

lament mango
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half hourly reminder: bring back ranked cashout or make world tour ranked.

wind frost
rocky dawn
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Please bring back ranked cashout

Itā€™s what made the game unique from every other fps.

A new idea, exciting with both skill and luck involved.

Or maybe just add a few game modes for ranked and we can choose which one we want to play, and have separate ranks for both. That way we have the option. Donā€™t just remove things blindly.

Keep it simple and stick to the roots of what drew attraction to the game in the first place, and just refine that gradually overtime, adding content. Pls donā€™t ruin another great fps

lime fable
# wispy latch The casuals leave because itā€™s always the same mode, after season 1 they ruined ...

Light definitely has the easiest weapons, and the class encourages u to be cheesy adding more frustration to the game, i dont think they understand how to make an enjoyable experience for both sides, an rpg for example is just brain dead 80 dmg for free aoe shot which used to one hit light is frankly not enjoyable on the receiving end, balance in this game is all over the place with weapons like flamethrower and grenade launches being viable weapons over others which u actually need to aim with.

cursive void
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give us an option to disable taau fsr xess and dlss

rain hazel
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help, I didnā€™t receive an email with 150 multibucks, what should I do????

little warren
narrow rose
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bring back old recon sense and nukes

tough sapphire
bright jolt
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#šŸ“§ā”‡contact-us May I have SOMEONE'S AT EMBARK'S ATTENTION PLEASE.
There's only one weapon that I like(d) using a lot: the SWORD.
I have 900+ hours on the game, 200+ in the practice range, 400+ of Sword Cashout / Ranked.
Now, why 200+ hours in practice range? Firstly to master emote cancelling. When that came out as an exploit, I immediatly started gadget swapping.

Now, I can understand removing emote cancelling, it's more than fair, but GADGET SWAPPING is a skill expression. Have you ever played League of Legends? Do you know about a champion named Riven, for example? She herself got some animation cancelling, which are very very hard to pull off, that's why she's considered one of the hardest champ to master. SKILL EXPRESSION.

Now, I'm not honestly enjoying the game anymore.
I get onetapped by heavies with flamethrower as I need to get close to them and by the time I reload a second lunge, I'm dead. I get ONESHOT by heavies with SPEAR, just one single right click. Lights who uses simple guns delete me, because there's not a window for a swordman to react anymore.

Please, nerf the damage, but at least re-implement gadget swapping. Playing sword is not rewarding anymore, despite having tried ANYTHING.
It's a dead weapon.
Pullkia thinks the same, and I also speak for Vain. Please, fix the Sword.
I don't find it fair.

misty swift
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If a random team mate leaves the game then why should I bear the fucking cost in ranked?

twilit patrol
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The feedback panel that we get every other game is also kind of useless. Theres 90% that the feedback I want to give is not one of the options at all, like DISCONNECTED TEAMMATE

cyan trench
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why would you remove slide jumpad inpact ? like if you slide into jumpad it doesnt add any speed? plz bring it back. we need more movement not less stopegg

sharp briar
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Steyr aug and kriss vector for medium?? Thoughts?

glad dirge
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Season 3 contentwise is great, the weapons are cool and offer new experiences, the map is fresh and distinct, the gadgets and the winch claw offer some fun new gameplay and are overall great additions to the game.

There might be obvious issues with the balancing of the new weapons that are normal for newly released content but there is one big issue that is overshadowing all the positives of this season and it's the ranked changes.

TA is overall a boring, slow paced mode in a fast paced game, it stands out way too much in that regard and not in a good way. Forcing new players into 5 matches of TA before they can play anything else is an additionally baffingly stupid move that will drive away a lot of people expecting fast paced gameplay like in the trailers or youtube videos of people playing it. If I was forced into the current TA when I first tried the game I would close it after 2 matches and never open it again.
Additionally, TA is too different than cashout and when balancing it presents obvious issues to maintaining integrity between different gamemodes forcing you to either split the game into 2 different rulesets like you already started doing with the regen timers or choose one gamemode to prioritize when balancing which will make the other ones suffer.

Other than that, TA as a gamemode takes much less ingame space than Cashout, why would you have a full map made for potentially 12+ different fight locations (vaults and cashouts) per match only to then host a smaller gamemode on it? Aren't you wasting hosting resources doing that?

I'm not against having TA as a gamemode, even a ranked mode but why would you also choose to take cashout away and delegate it to a rotating secondary gamemode with limiting rulesets?
Why push both casual and ranked cashout players into one pool forcing worse players to endure constant seal clubbing at the hands of bored ranked players?
The argument of taking cashout off of ranked to make it better is stupid too, and I frankly think it's a lie since you guys only said the change is temporary after backlash, and after making countless changes to it mid season, you need to adress it as soon as you can.

Overall I sure hope this is some stupid higher up or CEO pushing for those changes because if it's actually you guys then i'm massively worried about the future of the game.

worn nest
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I love the nvidia charm but i couldnt get it due to it streaming at 4 AM in my timezone, is there any other way to get it?

gleaming gust
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I have an issue with healing beam being in the game. It feels bad to not have one because chip damage happens all the time and you need to be able to recover quickly from fights to fight the next team and also always be engaging at full health. I have played many pvp games where healing becomes too much of an issue so they need to add anti-healing mechanics in the game and it just makes a convoluted mess. I imagine the game without healing beam and faster health regen for everyone. I think it would make the game better and make certain plays more impactful.

civic oar
# mossy otter > With the recent nerf to M60 and Lewis - Heavy is no longer as strong as it sho...

First of, Ottr isn't the end all be all judge of this game. If being a streamer and playing the game a lot makes you the final decision maker, hold my beer, I'll quickly make a channel so you'll listen to me. I've actually studied game design, worked on game balancing for several games AND I did play this game A LOT.

Once again, aside from the shotgun, Light's dps is BARELY higher than other classes. If you think dashing around like a madman is easy while being under fire and trying to aim while dashing like that... you should go play light in a competitive match a few times and then speak. You don't need to aim the RPG you know that right?

I've almost strictly played heavy in Kyoto and it's almost hilarious how easy it is to play it. There are enough jump pads around to move anywhere. Sure the IMMEDIATE area around the big tower is risky... but so is the giant street in syshorizon, same with monaco when it is duck duck cover, same with the bridge in Seoul that leads to the hospital. You wanna have 350 hp, numerous protective tools and numerous 1 shotting tools? LEARN TO LIVE WITH BEING A SITTING DUCK.

Now if you were to read more carefully, I mentioned how H is now oppressive with winch claw and close range weapons. As for Lewis and M60, my friend just got a 30+ kill game with 20k dmg two days ago using Lewis. Just because they nerfed the dmg a little doesn't mean it's crap. Just need to land 1-2 more bullets, if you can't...skill issue.

As for Light weapons. Have you tried shooting anything further than 15m with the XP54 or M11? You barely hit a thing. Knives? Buffs did make them super high in dmg but you still need to lead your shots a lot after 15 meters. SH1900? You need to be close enough to smell the heavy's underboob sweat to get that 2 tap.

YES, LH1/bows are oppressive... I think a small damage nerf would be nice. But remember, you are a heavy fanatic whining about other classes. I'm a medium/heavy user telling you to stop whining and be objective.

graceful fractal
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I think revolver needs a slight buff, improving the hip fire a bit would probably go a long way

shy swan
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WHAT COMPETITIVE FPS HAS FUCKING PERCENTAGES FOR MOUSE SENSITIVITY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

JUST MAKE THIS ONE UPDATE FOR THE LOVE OF GOOOOOOOOOOOOD OMG

  • RANKED CASHOUT
  • SHOW US IF PEOPLE ARE QUED TOGETHER
  • NERF LH1
  • ADD BETTER SENSITIVITY SETTINGS AND OPTIONAL AUTO MANTEL SETTINGS (NO COMPETITIVE FPS HAS PERCENTAGE SENSITIVITY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
tough sapphire
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Please for the love of god fix the special attack of spear its useless i dont even know if it has any hitbox i dont care if the spear is op or not just make sure that it can hit things edit : @worldly scaffold i know that .. it is funny to do that but you know what i mean the "attack" is useless agaisnt players

silent palm
#

We should honestly just have a pool to show Embark that we need to bring ranked back for cashout, i wouldn't mind that there are 2 different ranked modes

worldly scaffold
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Buff LH1 more, maybe more damage and more magazine size? It isn't easy enough, I still see some people struggle with it. Light class needs to be easy to play. Remove range from Sonars, they already cover so much you are detected most of the match, you might as well remove the restriction, it is confusing specially with the broken visuals of it now. This will make your game even better, you're on the right track devs, keep cooking, just keep doind what you do. TO NEKRI above: You can hit stuff on the map, sending them to orbit, including your teams bubble shield, lol.

red knot
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the game is litteraly doing the same thing it did in season 2.
please fix the problem with the overusing of the CPU

wise nebula
#

I just had one of the biggest bugs happen to me in The Finals while playing rank which lasted the entire game. I tried dying but didn't work until the game ended and I had to restart the game while my team was playing without me resulting in a loss. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0XOWcIlcKqI

vapid pine
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We need ranked cashout back

lament mango
#

half-hourly reminder: bring back ranked cashout asap

faint saddle
#

Some Feedback:

Light:

Revive Speed: Buff revive speed. I've been asking for this for a long time now. Making it 1 second shorter would increase their team viability immensely. Heavies can barricade/bubble in place to revive, and mediums use their magic cables, while lights need to run a marathon to find a safe space to avoid a random one-shot.

BOW: Very nice, not too strong. Maybe should have very slight inaccuracies mid-air like throwing knives.
BUG: Bow is visible during revive, obscuring vision.
3rd Person Bow Walk Animation: Very weird and could use some tweaks.
Sonar Grenade: Needs a nerf to the detection range.
LH1: Too strong in every way possible, needs nerfs, especially for terminal attack.
Thermal Bore: Should have area damage, collision/passthrough with enemy players, and deal around 40 damage. Also, it should have a 10-20% larger explosion.

Medium:

Dual Blades: Underwhelmingly weak. Needs damage buffs to primary attack and give medium a slight move speed buff. You cannot chase other mediums as you are the same speed. Maybe a 3-7% faster running speed to compensate for having no dash or invis cloak.

Heavy:

Claw: Should have a better visual for when you get hooked. Soft red borders/hooked display to clearly showcase lost control.
Claw needs slight nerfs to when what side of the grappled person can move and stun duration, etc.

Kyoto:
No complaints. Love the map and aesthetics. Was hoping for a 2200 version, aka hyperfuturistic Kyoto (even though Syshorizon covers that). Otherwise, super.

Events:

Low Gravity Event: Lasts too long and happens WAY too often in the last minutes of the match, making the game unplayable as melee. Getting beamed when you jump once.

Killfeed:

Should display enemy kills and cause of deaths. I often get 3rd-partied and want to know which team did it.

Team Damage:

I've been dying to team damage way too often recently as a sword player, dying to my team's gas and fire. Give friendly hazards a slightly longer damage time to begin. For example, make us cough more often or similar so we take less team damage.

Grenade Indicator:

Add a grenade indicator. Grenades are fine; I am okay with eating a whole grenade here and there, but sometimes you just donā€™t hear them in all the chaos. I want to see where they are roughly.

Miscellaneous:

Lobby Music Selection Options: When?
Skins for Gadgets and Items: Can we get some skins for gadgets and items that donā€™t have any yet? (Looking at Gateway [Portal gun you throw?], Pyro [Molotov], and Stun Gun [barcode scanner skin]).

magic hill
#

half-hourly reminder: bring back ranked cashout asap

sacred inlet
fluid raptor
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please just reduce rpg damage to 100/120 max. instant 140 damage with one left click and barely any aim required is so stupid. especially since stun gun STILL doesn't disable gadgets anymore. rpg is an absolute "use it or throw the game" kinda gadget and isn't fun for the reciever OR the user. the focus should be way more on destruction imo

quick coyote
paper hornet
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there is a glitch on the challenger circut quest where the 90k structure damage does not progress when you break structures with arena carriables

unborn pawn
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Please stop match making ranked players with unranked players in terminal attack. It's draining the life out of me. Just put me with people that have played their 8 placement games. I'm on the verge of walking away from the game

errant thunder
empty mica
#

Hey,

I love this seasonā€™s theme and battle passā€”they all look great! The World Tour is a nice touch. However, in my personal opinion, I think the bow would have been better suited as a medium build new weapon, and the dual blades for the light build. Just a thought!

rustic siren
#

enable gifting skins

dusk anvil
#

that'd be cool

acoustic gust
#

Nerf those god damn throwing knifes

mellow sedge
#

When is there gonna be a jukebox mode so we can play old seasons music?
I really miss the season 1 round end music teaegg

winter lily
#

@acoustic gust they are at this rate like a sniper but faster

past jasper
#

Not that anyone cares, but could we possibly get all the rank variants for the stickers and charms rather than just the highest rank we got? I think it'd be nice to put gold on gold rather than diamond.

wise flame
stoic cosmos
#

How to save TA

ā€¢ Gadgets should recharge but at a slower rate

ā€¢ Full HP regen

ā€¢ Ability to revive manually/defib

ā€¢ Ability to heal - gun will overheat faster

ā€¢ Class limit to two

ā€¢ Best out of 5 rounds

That way, we can bring gadgets recharge, defib, revive, heal, no class overuse, and faster matches back into a more balanced play.

raw sail
#

Game became Trash and usless to play, revert ranked mode or the game will die

violet elbow
#

it boggles my mind how YOU FUCKING BUFF THE LH1

THE ONE LIGHT GUN THAT NEEDED A NERF

now it just completely devalues every other light gun because it kills FASTER THAN AN SMG

but ig the casual bums didnt use it to it had to be buffed, doesnt matter that it completely ruins the option light has now because if you arent running the LH1 against another good light you are throwing

lament mango
#

half-hourly reminder: bring back ranked cashout asap

odd ibex
glacial geyser
#

Sonar grenade stopped working midmatch... wtf

hollow valve
#

13700kf, 40-50% utilization, 160 fps (not anything else bound), checkmate embark. I shouldn't have doubted my previous 12600k but doubt the optimization of the game. Please do something on the optimization.

Btw I remember there is a test video about the CPU performance of the game. It was beta or 1st season. It was a 13700kf and they had 300 fps. Please revert the change.

@deep egret Yep, LH1 is farming. 27-1 would make a fine addition to my KDition.
In this season I have seen more skilled weapons than the rpg. They simply need to press a skill button and then spam, you are dead.

night epoch
#

need ranked cashout back plain and simple

full relic
broken geyser
#

EMBARK Allow heavy players to throw their spears. But not unlimited like the throwing knives. Instead when u throw it once u have to wait for it to come back to ur hand kinda like Thors hammer. It's literally a SPEAR. And having to wait for it to come back even to engage in close range battle prevents it from being overpowered but viable longer distances. Maybe allow players to aim and throw it through by toggling on and off the aiming mode. WE NEED THIS IN THE FINALS.

narrow owl
#

Will we get other opportunities for the NVidia Twitch drop? Figured the campaign would last longer.

deep egret
#

LH1 is completely broken, GG

quick coyote
crystal umbra
#

Ninja Theme?

Paper Bomb Skin from Naruto for the Pyro Grenade, or Breach Charge, or C4, or explosive mines?

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manic sandal
#

Restarting career level to receive decoration medal still needed

dark raft
wise flame
#

next season should take place in atlantis

royal herald
#

lh1 more op, lets nerf lh1 and give it more damage

errant thunder
# quick coyote Not for long i hope and think bro

I hope too. But they can do something as someone said here, like each team vote for one thing to disappear before the beginning of the match (because middle class is not anymore support in this ranked mode and everyone is betting on 3-4 lights LH1 and thereā€™s no more strategy then). But letā€™s see what theyā€™ll simply do later in the season

quick coyote
#

Remove cheaters in TA & TA at the same pls šŸ™‚

olive shell
#

Daily reminder to devs that ranked TA is their worst idea and it is absolute garbage. Reverse course as soon as possible before the game dies

potent compass
#

Please revert the CL-40 to its old self or make the splash damage on it usable as the drop off on it is way to aggressive to the point where i feel like i now can do single digits now instead of a meaningful amount of damage with it. and up the reload speed on it as thats the problem more than ROF

worldly scaffold
#

LH1 is perfect now devs, I love being the only non L player in matches, youre doing great, keep cooking. Please balance everything to TA, people would loooove that, CL40 was not enough, I think it has lowest ttk in the game now, thank god you nerfed that thing, FOR TA! You're doing so well, keep cooking.

ivory pewter
#

bring back ranked cashouts please

hazy shore
#

even as a light main, i can tell the bow needs anerf. bad

haughty niche
#

give sword back gadget swapping.

craggy nova
#

Just saw an aim bot player in the game

glass snow
#

World tour leaderboard
Increase the amount earned and required to win in the final round.
The final round gives a low amount of cash, this gives people gunning for top 500 a reason to leave.

elfin badge
#

constantly getting stuck on loading screen

tidal shard
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competive TA is broken. one round lost and someone leaves, the games ends

lament mango
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half-hourly reminder: bring back ranked cashout asap

untold orbit
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accurate, thanks for saving me time

dusty igloo
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Actually just outright fuck terminal attack ranked, you lose like 500 points even if you win 6 rounds but you only gain about 90 if you win each round

dense fossil
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I honestly hope they donā€™t monitor this chat anymore, youā€™re all so entitled and disrespectful, these devs deserve way better. Please check yourselves, youā€™re talking to real people

valid night
#

plz just roll back lh1 to open beta version now it's too easy to use and too strong

lilac coral
glacial sierra
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i dunno what matchmaking is applied to the world tour now that it's not 'ranked' anymore...but i'm pretty sure i keep getting matched against people who would've been far far away from me in ranked previously, and completely owned every time. no way i can see that i'll get the 'win three tournament' challenge thing any time soon...or ever.

glad dirge
#

stop ignoring people asking for ranked cashout back and give us a definite reply on what you're planning to do now so we can know if we have to fuck off until season 4

vapid pine
#

half-hourly reminder: bring back ranked cashout asap

shy swan
#

WHAT COMPETITIVE FPS HAS FUCKING PERCENTAGES FOR MOUSE SENSITIVITY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

JUST MAKE THIS ONE UPDATE FOR THE LOVE OF GOOOOOOOOOOOOD OMG

  • RANKED CASHOUT
  • SHOW US IF PEOPLE ARE QUED TOGETHER
  • NERF LH1
  • ADD BETTER SENSITIVITY SETTINGS AND OPTIONAL AUTO MANTEL SETTINGS (NO COMPETITIVE FPS HAS PERCENTAGE SENSITIVITY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
vital timber
#

bring back ranked cashout. Ranked Treminal sucks

delicate notch
#

The classes themselves (movement speed, health, regen, revive, etc.) feel fine to me. I would not touch that. Medium is still very strong but in a good place imo, the Katanas are also good, not absurdly strong but a really good pick, I would not buff them. Both Bow and LH1 seem a bit too strong though but not too much. I hate getting on the bandwagon but playing TA on Ranked feels like being stuck in Limbo, it takes forever, to me personally, it's boring and it is very monotonous. I however must say, I am really enjoying this 3rd Season nonetheless šŸ˜Š

quick coyote
acoustic storm
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Please give us the option to only climb up objects when pressing the spacebar. It sometimes is really bothersome when trying to jump down a small hole, that you climb up multiple times.
Again, just an option which is not enabled by default.

rough herald
#

can't say "lmao" in text chat im uninstalling
(waea crying noise)

sterile ermine
barren coral
#

Nerf the bow accuracy please

quick thorn
#

what bow accuracy, feels like 50% of headshots lack actual registration lol

indigo socket
#

add a gun game please thx

fervent onyx
#

why are the DMR's so busted now?????? Ranked TA is unbearable with that shit, its just a light circle jerk.

pastel tide
#

#buffbow

cursive warren
#

Infinite loading screens are currently happening after rank matches

rich galleon
#

(Cough) Oceania... Xbox.... 33 (!) mins still cannot find players for The World Tour. Can we at least get bots in the game if no players matched after 10 mins?

sacred cypress
balmy rock
#

Did you guys get the email with the 150 multibucks and a famas skin? I haven't

lament mango
#

half-hourly reminder: bring back ranked cashout asap

dense fossil
#

Really enjoying season 3, keep up the great work hug_friend

Was thinking itā€™d be cool if at some point the gameā€™s soundtrack could be selected from previous seasons? Theyā€™re all so good

Also would be real hyped to see the toggle off HUD option available on console šŸ™‚

supple seal
#

REMOVE TA RANK PLS THAT MODE IS ASSSS

tawdry mesa
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Just bring ranked rewards to world tour.

TA is boring af

restive crow
# civic oar First of, Ottr isn't the end all be all judge of this game. If being a streamer ...

Let's get real, bro. I've played over 10 games since this morning, and in every single match, more than 60% of the players were lights. Guess what happened? Everyone was sprinting around with LH1, racking up kills, and at the end, lights had over 18 kills each. They can dash, go invisible, and grapple, making it a breeze to escape. The light class is straight-up obliterating entire teams in 1 vs 3 situations.

From your tone, it's clear you're just another light abuser who doesn't have a clue about the current state of heavy and medium gameplay. If a light can take down a heavy in a straight 1 vs 1, then the heavy class is a joke. No class should be so overpowered that it annihilates opponents in the blink of an eye. And mark my words, a fix is coming soon, so you better stop whining while you can.

runic raven
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i like this season but ranked people keep griefing the team throwing fire and gas on me and teammates damaging us and i lose rs because of it

scarlet cosmos
# civic oar First of, Ottr isn't the end all be all judge of this game. If being a streamer ...

"Lights have barely higher dps"

Show me clips where a medium with a scar-h or akm that didnt hit all headshots won against a light with lh1 bodyshots on a 1v1.

The reality is, light is a incredibly overpowered class not because of it's dps output, but because of the max hp regen lock on all classes. You can sit across the map and lower the entire team's enemy hp to one shot level.

quick coyote
#

fix server lag ;D

vapid pine
#

half-hourly reminder: bring back ranked cashout asap

mossy otter
# civic oar First of, Ottr isn't the end all be all judge of this game. If being a streamer ...

Princess, I quoted ottr's video as a reference, that he explained it nicely.

Secondly, I highly doubt your experience of the game if light's DPS is "barely" higher. Also, you don't need to aim RPG? Are you a Heavy, fr? Do you know the amount of self-damage a heavy can deal if the light dashes into him or is close to him?

The claw and spear are nice additions but they're most certainly not the meta loadouts. Yeah, for those who know how to sledge, for them a claw is useful - not for others. For your friend, with 30+ kill with 20k dmg, congrats. I have a light friend who got 40+ kills with 30k dmg. tch tch

Your comments about the specifics of the light's weapons are so whiny that you sound like a light main. Enjoy the high brother.

north dew
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Footstep audio needs to be increased, lights actually make zero sound sometimes. I check the sound wave

humble wave
#

remove movement audio for light

junior wharf
#

game sucks now im leaving this shit lmk when they fix their game

smoky gust
#

imo the winch claw hit registration could use a little work
i had it go through enemies and objects without grabbing them a bunch

hidden idol
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This ranked system is beyond broken it's not even funny, dia players with literal new players who barely know how to use the mouse what the actual fk

violet rover
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didnt know its possible to make the game e ven worse but the devs are just to good to make everything worse

silk isle
#

Just participated in a tournament and suddenly lost my internet connection. Restarting the router and connecting always takes about 10 minutes, and now I have a ban of 10 minutes as well.

I'm wondering, since my internet provider often has these problems and can't get them under control, if I'm putting my account at risk and could eventually get a permanent ban.

My internet provider doesn't care if I get banned from multiplayer games.

It's 2024 and these short-term internet outages were already happening in the early 2000s. Nothing has ever changed.

I just wanted to vent my frustration, as my account is important to me and The Finals has simply become my #1 game.

acoustic storm
upper citrus
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Allow healing, regen, revives (no coining) and cooldowns (put a 1.5x multiplier on cooldown length for defenders), increase round time, lower to best of 11.

This will bring a competitive and fair experience to ranked without sacrificing the chaos and fun that finals is known for.

cursive warren
#

Please fix the loading screen bug please, im tryna play world tour with a smooth transition

lament mango
#

half-hourly reminder: bring back ranked cashout asap

queen cloud
rough herald
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Nerf heavy (you heard it a million time and here's one more)

note:

  • why do a gatgid that have no activation time and little to no skill to use do 140 damage? light vs heavy is like a quick time event that if you didn't react in time you get 140 damage and die or if you're good enough you be lucky to get 80 damage which is still alot seens we have to play perfectly to dodge the rocket
    (also getting 0 damage never happen like ever)

  • the tank out damage the damage per second guy, that already dumb enough and i will not insult your intelligence by explaining why thats bad

  • boring slow HHM meta:
    doom 300 hp
    shield 750 hp
    barricade 1000~ hp
    heavy himself 350 hp

    Too kill a heavy throw all his defenses you need to do... oh god. 2,400 Damage
    (im not including goo because barely anyone use it, can't say the same for heals)

pale cloak
rotund orchid
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I feel like they missed an opportunity to not give the heavy the ability to throw the spear for some close/medium range damage potential. It could either be picked back up again or "respawn" after a couple of seconds...

barren coral
#

Revolver needs some love give it some kind of buff or along the lines of it

fervent citrus
#

Was a bit cautious but still optimistic for S3, but not gonna lie, I'm not in favor of it anymore as well. First and foremost, "Cashout will never leave the spotlight as the most important part of THE FINALS.", while new players are required to play 5 matches of TA to unlock other modes such as quick cash. The vault and cashout gameplay is so unique and made me fall in love with this game.

Health regen values, guardian turret change, glitch mine rework, and gadget changes are all good. Alongside some minor weapon tweaks and improvements to useability such as KS-23 pump rate.

Now the bad.

Remember when cloak light db spam that can 2-shot any class in S1? Well, now we have throwing knives (where nobody uses the charge attack anymore its all spam), bow with no falloff, LH1 buffed even more, and db is back to being able to 2-shot any class.

Remember when light stun gun spam giving free kills? Well, now we have the winch claw for heavy that not only stuns, but also pulls and allows them to do a survivable point blank rpg.

What happened to the "long ttk" gameplay?

The CL40 was given a damage nerf and a fire rate buff, making it one of the second lowest dps to the lowest dps weapon. The only reason for this is due to it's burst being too good in TA but in terms of TTK, is one of the slowest and will lose most duels if not careful. This change made it unable to fight against heavies and emphasized the long reload time due to the 4 rounds being gone quicker.

In s2 ranked, despite it being a poor pick, I still brought it to plat. It's main gimmick is despite the low dps, you need to play safely/area denial and learn its trajectory for mid-long shots. The fire rate, reload, and ammo was low but it was rewarding to hit direct hits.

Overall. Didn't care about TA, but if core game and balance changes are catered to it instead of the core gameplay of the game it will mess up balances for other modes. Showing more that, already built gameplay and balance isn't fit for it.

sharp herald
#

light invis seems to actually make them invisible this season - used to have very little issues hearing/tracking but the last few days has been impossible - not sure if it's got anything to do with the weird motion blur thingy going on, but yeah - genuinely cannot see light players atm

signal basin
#

DO SOMETHING FOR THE GRENADE. We can't see them, we can't heard them. DO SOMETHING

nimble kiln
#

kyoto is quite laggy and lh1 is busted af

worldly sorrel
#

theres no fucking audio

vapid pine
#

half-hourly reminder: bring back ranked cashout

elder umbra
#

the game keep crashing

viscid raft
#

is there fair matchmaking in world tour? nope, there isnt, i just started playing it and i encountered best trio out of this gamemode

stark venture
#

Since mediums have a guardian turret, can the heavies get a drone that passively follows them around and shoots micro missles that does baby damage? I just want like, a warframe sentinel type of device it would be cute. nyanfishpat

gusty wagon
#

when will rpg be a destructive focused weapon instead of dmg focused?

deep egret
#

How many seasons to have a grenade indicator?

lime lichen
#

same with v9s, they got a buff for no reason. like wtf are these devs smoking because i want some

balmy rock
#

Tournament for ranked please Embark!

errant maple
#

People get better at your class and stop crying for the love of god. Thank you, now have a good day

tawdry bramble
#

kyoto is an excellent map, but when some of the buildings are destroyed the fps tanks like mad even at over 60+ fps

errant thunder
pearl plank
frigid meteor
#

Hey embark: I love all your cosmetics and the effects of certain items as well, however, if there was a way to toggle of the effects of certain cosmetic items that would be amazing, for instance, the black cowboy hat that adds a black and white filter is cool and all, but it removes a lot of colour choices, so an option to toggle items with effects on and off or even add effects as a sellable cosmetic for season pass and shop. Thank you, and have a nice day

P.S VIVA LA VAIIYA

jagged cradle
#

Dear Embark.
Balances and fixes I'm not worried about but please understand that the game tends to freeze at loading screen( map loading screen )... Forcing to quit the game and I try to reconnect but get the suspension !!!!... Like check my quit history, I don't quit games... Yet here I am today with a hour long suspension for WT and TA???...

Come on man... This is starting to suck... Especially when I'm trying to rank up on WT and TA...

REALLY DISHEARTENING... PLEASE FIX!!!!!

paper hornet
unkempt depot
#

Why cant we use Text chat in the lobby?

torpid sentinel
#

dude this ranked system fuckign sucks. they had 20 thousand more sr than our team and I only got 300 points. While having the most kills and objective points. Meanwhile I get -1200 points if I lose a close round. Who tf are these devs. Someone needs to fire their asses

snow locust
#

Daily reminder that the LH1 needs to be fixed asap

hidden idol
left forge
#

Game was working fine yesterday, when I try to open it today it says it needs SecureBoot and adequate hardware? anyone know how to fix?

vapid pine
#

half-hourly reminder: bring back ranked cashout

civic sequoia
#

Since people are saying youre reworking cashout ranked

The main problem I have with cashout ranked, and just the tournaments generally is the 3rd partying while the 4th team gets a free objective, doesnt feel great for the 3 teams fighting or the 1 team thats doing nothing.

My suggestion to fix this is to stagger the vault spawns, make one spawn at the start of the game, then another about 2 minutes into the game, then they respawn once cashed out. This will make it so all the teams converge on the same objective, so the players will know how many teams are showing up and be expecting it, while not having the chance for the one team to be bored defending an objective no one is attacking. Ive seen multiple times that teams go full games without getting into fights just by chance of the objectives the other teams chose to attack.

Idk how this would play out in actual practice, and im sure you thought about it because i have. But thats a solution i think could be interesting for the 3v3v3v3 tournament format

cosmic ether
bleak prism
#

season 3 has increased server lag alot, and is barely playable, plz fix

vocal cave
deep egret
#

I loved the game but it is so unfun rn

drifting thistle
#

TIme to do better
#šŸ’„ā”‡spawn-point message

wraith orchid
#

how can you get the email for the famas skin my embark portal was always linnked

iron berry
#

check everywhere in the email app that you have connected, spam folders included

worldly scaffold
rotund orchid
#

Would love to see a melee-only playlist for cashout. Or a sniper/bow only mode.

crisp oxide
#

just reminding you that terminal attack has ruined the game you intended the finals to be and i and many ohers cannot stand it. why is it the main ranked mode? ppl like it? ok cool. BUT DONT MAKTE THIS THIE MAIN PART OF THE GAME ITS NOT WHAT THE THE GAME WAS SUPPOSED TO BE. DONT RUIN THIS PLZ

rare kiln
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Lights are annoying yā€™all gotta nerf something lol I donā€™t know what the devs are thinking but that ainā€™t it

vapid cypress
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you should be fixing the afks issue not changing the ranked modes for no reason. how is this possible i have afks 5 games in a row?

restive crow
dry lake
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Add an option to turn off automatically using ziplines and gateway portals when youre near them, its so annoying and cant find the option to turn it off

this is on pc mkb, I keep running next to a zipline and it uses it, waiting at a gateway for the vault to tp but it forces me to tp through and when im on a zipline and reach the top I dont get off it just uses it again automatically

gaunt badge
#

Make dual blades do a little less damage

hasty cliff
tame willow
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Respawn times too long šŸ˜© šŸ¤¬ šŸ˜­ just reduce it

tulip kite
#

I want to play cash out competitively. Thatā€™s all

bright oasis
#

@viral perch NERF LH1 into the ground please

modest pawn
#

Daily reminder to bring back cashout competitive. That is the finals that we loved and not this valorant crap of camping and holding rooftops

sacred cypress
#

Since there is no possibility to fill up a team i. World tour, let the disadvantage team have a boost in taking over Cashouts

hybrid crater
#

the map absolutely sucks to play on.
It's beautiful, but that doesn't mean it's practical

upbeat summit
#

aps should work on throwing knifes and possibly bows throwing knifes are too scuffed but shouldn't be nerfed and they should be countered

hallow spruce
#

do we have 8 teams for the twitch rivals event? like what is even going on?

lapis python
#

I think TA is a great mode, it's more competitive than cash out, but you need to fix some things:

  • Make the maps smaller, like restrict it with boarders like you do in the beginning of each round.

  • Set a maximum for how many can run each class, like 2 of each maximum so you can't run 5 lights, or restrict how many can use the same gun/equipment.

  • Make health regen back to full, so it is possiable to clutch in a 1v3/4/5 situation.

lavish shard
#

Nerf Lh1
Nerf spam TK bow
Nerf Rpg claw melee big noob
Reduce recoil m60/lewis
Light need survivality not damage buff

lament mango
#

half-hourly reminder: bring back ranked cashout asap

barren coral
#

The bow spamming is real annoying

ocean mason
#

In the midst of negative criticism, however deserved it may be, letā€™s also remember some things we enjoy about The Finals- the gameplay and destruction is top notch, unique, and memorable. Thank you devs for your passion ā¤ļø

topaz ledge
#

just went from 5 revive tokens to infinite to -2 after reconnecting into a wt match

swift pulsar
#

LH1 buffs were wayyy too much. Gun takes almost no skill now when compared to last patch.

civic oar
#

@restive crow @scarlet cosmos do none of you read what I said and just bandwagon others? I said LH1 needs a nerf and that I agreed with you.
Dash is good, yes. So is the damn Winch claw. If heavy has a guaranteed death sentence with the claw, light deserves a guaranteed escape with the dash.
-Invis is so trash as the sound que reveals your location even if you weren't in their sight and a single bullet takes you out of it. Grapple is awfully slow. You can die 5 times over while grappling away if someone has semi accurate aim.

Blackburn - I ONLY play light in power shift because it is fun to snipe there. Keyword, snipe... I don't use LH1. I played all of season 1-2 to diamond using medium and heavy. You are bitching about "no class should be overpowered that it annihilates opponents" WHAT DO YOU THINK LIGHTS HAD TO ENDURE ALL OF SEASON 1??? šŸ˜„

Breadsie - DPS output is what makes lights bad in medium/close fights. I totally see where you're coming from when you mention how lights can snipe you as you are approaching the objective, but do you really think snipers are that easy to use close range? Once again... I AGREE, LH1 NEEDS A NERF, stop mentioning that. But sniper requires REAL skill in close range fights. At that point, you gotta learn to use the environment to block sight and perhaps use shield when rushing objectives.

@mossy otter don't call me a 'princess' you moronic buffoon. Although our tones might be harsh, I never name called you (til now, you deserved it). Show some respect.
As for how ottr explains something. Everyone can explain things nicely, at the end of the day, if you don't agree with them, you don't.

Let me rehash for you... in a simulated situation, if two sides were to shoot at each other, M/H has average dps of 150~ whereas L has 170-180. Hence other classes win. Also, when did I say "shoot your feet with the rpg"? You're dumb if you do that, but you can easily shoot at their feet 6-7 meters away and you're fine.

idle crypt
#

Please add Hispanic/latino faces as a customization option. The contestant is supposed to represent you. Kinda weird having to pretend to be other races. And Iā€™m sure other backgrounds isnt something embark is afraid of considering they have an entire battle pass and update surrounding Japanese culture

drifting thistle
#

make ur respawn always facing the the objective, QoL damn suck in this game. make kill cam easier for us to identify cheater

deep egret
#

Why do you think adding more broken melee weapon to an FPS game is fun? Sword and katana are insanely broken and they keep emote cancelling

wicked pond
#

I really lack the option to return a skin from the store. There should be an option to refund a skin in case if someone didnt like the skin or just to see if someone would like a skin

vapid pine
#

half-hourly reminder: bring back ranked cashout asap

coral forum
grim rivet
fleet adder
#

TERMINAL ATTACK IS TRASH!! DELETE THIS SHIT AND DONT COOK EVER AGAIN šŸ—£ļøšŸ—£ļøšŸ—£ļøā—ļøā—ļøā—ļøšŸš®šŸš®šŸš®

strong sparrow
#

Day 5 of asking to revert TA ranked (its a casual gamemode that is NOT suited for competition) and bring back cashout ranked (at least for S4 and onward)

wraith orchid
#

dagger hitreg still not consistent in the most obvious situationsc but more aim assist def wont fix that

restive echo
#

wouldn't be nice if they added more explosive weapons?

ornate elk
#

does RS won/lost inside a lobby with a cheater get canceled if he's banned ?

atomic current
#

Congrats on adding the G2A5 from TF|2 you did well devs

thorn pond
#

Hi guys! about a week ago, I wrote you feedback about cashout mode. And now I would like to tell you some interesting ideas that came to my mind while I was playing terminal attack rating mode.
First, it would be great if the defenders spawned immediately at a point and there was a gate between the two points, allowing them to teleport back and forth for quick preparation for defense. In this way, the preparation time can be reduced to 10 seconds, and the portal between the points can close after about 15 seconds.
Secondly, It would be great to weaken the turrets and RPGs, as well as make a certain limit on the same gadgets (including turrets, mines, sonar grenades, etc.).
Third: If the light class restores 100 health, then it would be fair if the middle class restored 150 health, and the heavy 200. Fourth: If possible, then I would like a certain limit on the number of identical classes, sometimes it is very sad to see a game with 4 light classes in a team, most often leading to defeat.
Fifth: Now playing for defenders, it is completely unclear which side the attackers will be from, especially for beginners, in this case it would be nice to mark the spawn point of the attackers (A - Attackers) during preparation for defense (maybe a little more than this time).
Sixth: I believe that the key should be a status, not a portable object. Now the mode is shifted towards defenders, and attacking the point by controlling the key is even more difficult.
So far, these are all the thoughts that came to me while playing this mode in the new season. I'm enjoying it!
But it would be great if you tried to implement my past suggestions into cashout mode (such as dividing the vault reward into two halves, the first part is gradually credited as you hold, the second part can only be obtained by completing the hold to the end). I assure you this will take the game mode to a new level.
I really love your game and I like your approach, thanks for reading

chrome merlin
near nova
#

LH1 too OP

tame willow
#

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swift stream
#

New map is laggy and causes a lot of fps drop whenever something is destroyed, and has a few bugs for example, my friend tried to use defib on my statue under a house and couldn't for some reason. Also I get stuck a lot on some crates on the map and can't do anything

pure moat
#

half-hourly reminder: bring back ranked cashout asap

fluid merlin
#

Please restrict usage of the same classes. Half filled lobbies with 1 class isn't fun to play against

last swift
#

ā€¢Add a report option for gamethrowing, too many heavyā€™s just breaking building instead of going for the objective.
ā€¢Let light dash break through glass
ā€¢Change up APS turret projectile spam is crazy rn. Lower refresh times for a new one or higher durability
ā€¢Nerf guardian turret - lock on speed, damage, or accuracy idc which one but it shouldnā€™t melt me immediately when I see it. They also have stupid durability.
ā€¢For the love of god add ranged bullet drop to Snipers like every other shooter game
ā€¢Heavyā€™s have the spear now, the sledgehammer doesnā€™t need unrealistic range
ā€¢Light Machine guns have too much accuracy at range, I shouldnā€™t be melted 200 meters away
ā€¢Throwing knives need nerfed and the nerf on the Lewis gun needs reverted
ā€¢Smoke grenade should have a larger radius, one of the only counters for flamethrower fire damage rn
ā€¢This one may be an unpopular opinion but glitch grenades should completely break enemy devices like the guardian turret or mines

rotund aurora
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Please make cashout the primary ranked mode, nobody wants to play a valorant/csgo mode in ranked

rose stump
#

One Major suggestion and One Smallish Suggestion

  1. "Rushdown Playstyles" Are almost unplayable
    -Most of light's weapons still gets shutdown too easily, except if the weapon you are using are LH1 and Double Barrel. Even then LH1 is a zoner weapon. Both weapons are extremely overtuned.
    -Regeneration buff helped light alot, however too many things overshadow light
    -Charge is good, however flamethrower is extremely unfun to fight against
    Solution: Again, make the game less barrier dependent for heavy and less one-sided towards medium. Nerf AKM/Scar from fortnite

  2. Some weapon have obnoxious recoil
    -Like M11, pistol, and sometimes the AKM. are shaky and are not fun to use.
    Solution that sounds incredibly wild: Give weapons attachments such as sights, muzzles, grips, perks similar to Titan Fall 2. It might be a nightmare to add in, however it will significantly improve the game long term.

worn pine
#

Why aren't we getting rewarded for playing World Tour?

What happened to getting all these sick skins for ranking up to the top in the regular Finals mode? There is basically 0 reward for playing their supposedly 'main focus' mode now. Sure, we get a few multibucks, but other than that you get maybe a cool medal or something, and a bragging right. I've played Terminal Attack with my usual squad of 3 now and we simply can't enjoy that mode, as we fell in love with this game due to its fast pace and high action, which Terminal Attack is not about. And now there is nothing to work up towards in regular ranked mode either, unless there is some reward system we have completely missed behind the World Tour.

I love that the developers are experimenting and investing into newer game modes and all that, and I love the idea of ranked Terminal Attack, but I hate that the ones who fell in love with this game to begin with are not getting rewarded at all for playing what we love.

mortal dragon
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  1. Is it possible to include and option to go to the player's Steam profile page instead of Copy their user name or report in the social tab? Cause I want to report hackers/Scripters in their steam account instead as I believe that would also works decently by banning them in steam or etc. Or at least ik is it my skill issue or enemy hacks.

  2. And also FPS is dying, im using i7 - 10870H 2.2Ghz CPU and RTX 3060 graphics card but I can't get a stable 60 FPS even though I lowered the qualities to low it frequently fluctuate around 40FPS to 60FPS when in game and while on Menu it goes around 100FPS .

sullen lantern
#

I stopped playing the game from march and hopped on again for S3. I'm noticing a significant drop in fps. Previously it was at a playable levels, but now im getting frames as low as 25. What happened?

meager acorn
#

@rose stump I would be happy with just two optics. a 2x and a red dot. I don't choosing between an iron sight and a sight should be a way of artificially balancing. as for other attachments, I disagree hard

dense saffron
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hi, i am not having fps drops but I have another problem that makes the game unplayable for me. Its some kind of "Smooth stuttering". Does anyone have the same issue and know how to fix it? I have also recorded a YT video for it so if anyone wants to see it pls DM me. This makes the game literally unplayable

viscid raft
#

lh1 did not need a buff

regal salmon
#

I feel like Specializations should show near players classes on the scoreboard.

It's already public information, as it shows during the intro. It's just really tiny and easily missed.

Putting it on the scoreboard near the class just makes strategising easier too, without having to devote too much memory.

deep egret
#

Why buff LH1 and throwing knife?
Congrats for the 20k online players on steam, deserved bump

fresh shell
#

I take back what I said about the spear secondary being bad. It's absolutely horrible in quick-cash

graceful fractal
#

1.) Alright so what needs to happen is that LH1 needs a bigger nerf to the rate of fire, I think itā€™s okay the amount of damage it does but you shouldnā€™t be able to put out as much damage as quickly as youā€™re able to considering the gun is a laserbeam, Iā€™m over here destroying players health bars from across the map.

2.) I would give a pretty big buff to the hip fire of the revolver because the gun has very little versatility as it is, I think the damage and fire rate is perfect on it and potential maybe improve the reticle on it???

3.)Now to the MP11, now I know MP11 isnā€™t a horrible gun but up close thatā€™s where itā€™s supposed to be dominating at and I feel like the XP54 does that just as well and it has much better range so why would you ever pick the MP? I think as long as the damage is kept the same and they donā€™t buff it in any other way buffing the hip fire will be perfect to making it a better competitor for the XP

4.) alright last thing is the TKs, now all I really feel these need is either some type of reload animation added every 4 knives thrown or they need to slow the rate at which you throw them because these things decimate anything up close, I ran around today cloaked and hit so many 2-3 pieces just because they werenā€™t able to react to me quick enough

willow loom
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Hello, I think it would be nice to add a history of matches in ranked to know the number of victories/defeats and the points won or lost. I often skip the match resume and ask myself how many points I lost or won. thanks šŸ™‚

vapid pine
#

Bring back ranked cashout.

quick coyote
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Ranking system is even worse than before.
LOSING POINTS WHEN YOU'RE WINNING?
Even the best player in the team with like over 23+ kills and 15k Combat Score DIDN'T GAIN ANY POINTS.

Making it based on the enemy's Ranked Score is ABSOLUTELY STUPID.
Don't punish people by making them lose their ranked score after winning.

GAINING LIKE 70+ RS FOR WIN AND LOSING -930 RS FOR A SINGLE LOSS BECAUSE THE ENEMY TEAM HAD A CHEATER IS STUPID, the ranked changes along with the game mode just makes this more frustrating and has lost a large amount of ranked players, even reaching Gold gets you around Top 500 very easily despite it not being a high rank.
NO ONE GAINED ANYTHING FROM THAT GAME, IT WAS JUST A WASTE OF EVERYONE'S TIME.

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nova arch
viral quiver
# near nova LH1 too OP

Itā€™s perfect considering Iā€™m getting one shot by a RPG or getting hooked cross map then killed if not getting jumped and dying in two secs make every light class weapon just as good

lean birch
#

TA sucks

balmy rock
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i few things! the new map is a peace of art. I love the layout, collors and overall feel. But TA as the main ranked mode needs to go. I want to rank up and have fun like i did in cashout tanked tournaments, but i get tiered of the game after one or two rounds. another thing. Why buff LH1? it wasn't bad at all. now its the best weapon from all distences

sacred cypress
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People rage quiting r nothing but pathetic marshalsip its like admitting youve skill and anger issues mothernessshrug grow some balls and stand it out

ocean shore
junior crater
#

That was a little lob-sided...

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tired ibex
#

whats up with the level 7 and 8 stuff its so lame

upper citrus
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There are a ton of issue with the new ranked system but please donā€™t rip it out and rebuild from the ground up again. This is a great framework for a ranked system it just needs tuning. (Not including about terminal attack, that shit can be removed)

near nova
#

Where can check known issues?

wraith orchid
lament sable
#

Thermal bore not destroying wall/ not destroying what you shoot it at

velvet spire
#

It's joeover.

analog bear
#

There's a lot more cheaters now, all level 5's banging headshots with Light Snipers and somehow knowing where you're at.
EAC aint doing jack right now.
Only time ive gotten a response on my ingame report is after Ive reported them in discord so its most likely been manually checked after video evidence.

fallow glen
#

Matchmaking is shit... i dont have rank and then this game put me in gold gamešŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚ wtf

tropic egret
#

Light's weapons need to be tuned down a bit. it's supposed to be a class with the highest skill ceiling but by giving every light a vaporizer gun it makes the game a lot less fun for the other classes. Especially when every match has so many light's now, almost every power shift has atleast 3/4..

versed cloud
#

Tone down aim assist with LH1 this is ridiculously annoying to deal with

open tusk
#

sometimes I get locked in the loading screen when I hear the game start so I have to restart the game

desert moat
#

dynamic crosshairs and ||bring powershift to Las Vegas||

rigid shale
#

improved light health regen time feels really good

paper gale
still portal
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All of my friends have stopped playing due to lost interest in TA being the ranked game mode. PLEASE mid season update to reads ranked cash out before itā€™s too late. Please Embark.

odd ibex
midnight dock
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Idk if this is in the game or not but there should be an inactivity kick, you don't move or shoot or do anything for like 3-5 minutes you should be booted from the game and given a warning maybe

ebon hemlock
arctic canopy
#

Terminal Attack as rank is the worst decision

mortal ridge
#

Terminal Attack is horrible, genuinely the worst decision you guys have made so far

misty olive
#

is it me or game is in shambles right now, server lag icons every game constant crashing

drifting thistle
#

embark get a new anti cheat team. Ur current team had fail u

proud kraken
fringe shard
#

Spear right mouse click has horrible hit detection

ebon isle
#

cashout back, TA sucks big time

noble tide
#

please add other things (like cosmetics) to buy with the points you use to buy equipment when you have them all

honest brook
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Terminal Attack is a horrible decision for ranked, people came here to the discord specifically to shit on the gamemode but its genuinely a bad decision. If we wanted Terminal Attack, we would play any other ranked 5v5 gamemode out there. Like: CS2 and Valorant. We dont need any 5v5 stupid gamemodes. The cashout gamemode was new and felt fun, suspence in every match. But forcing everyone to have to play TA is cruel. All of my buddies have stopped and Im more disappointed than angry.

robust oracle
#

We need to add option on menu "chose music", Songs from Season 2 and 3 sucks hard, i want OST from S1!!

queen bane
#

The dual blade in mediums should do more damages.
You can't finish a heavy, too slow for a light It's not worth it

flint pecan
#

this shit is still a big issue

lime lichen
#

these devs that are over balance should never work on a game again! why the fuck did they overtune light

chrome merlin
# wraith orchid this exact thing is making the dagger equal with an hard mode. if you die, you j...

Ofc, but I have been playing dagger since early season 1, and I am one if the first to play it like that, you might have seen my montages on yt. And this season I am just really demotivated, dagger just is not fun to play into light, Ofc Its possible but there is so much bs happening in those 1v1s compared to medium/heavy. And there is no ranked mode anymore and world tour is the same repetitive maps so usually I would go into comp to play into few lights but thats not an option anymore

tropic sequoia
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The LH1 damage buff is so unfun to play against, you have literally no chance if your enemy has a slight amount of aim. His hitbox is smaller, he can move faster and kill a medium with 5 shots??

plain fable
#

Terminal attack was fine as a temporary event mode. It was bearable to play it enough to complete the event challenges last season. Making it your sole ranked experience is insane. It does not fit the fast pace of The Finals gameplay at all.

After last season removing our ability to see our ranked score and then this season moving everything to TA, Iā€™m losing a lot of hope in this games longevity. I completed four of my placements and Iā€™m dreading playing four more to get placed, let alone play the rest of the season.

manic hollow
#

I Spent all of last season grinding from Copper all the way to Plat 2, I was happy and fulfilled with the progressions and the feeling of the game. Forcing me to change game modes entirely to a game mode that was supposed to be a test or a limited time is just ridiculous. I didnt invest any time into learning how TA changes the maps the gamestyle or anything. I was busy SOlO grinding up in the gamemode that we all fell in love with. Very disappointed with the start of this season. The unbalanced weapons need a serious rehaul. LH1 especially. All TA is is 5 lights running around hip firing and killing me in 2 shots. Progression is dead. I thought they would get it right this time around, but that added to many things with too many imbalances. Please please please nerf these METAs.

iron coyote
#

m60 is a peashooter now

vapid pine
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Give our loved ranked cashout back,
we won't wait until S4.

lethal grove
#

private matches where you can assign teams and stuff and allow that for smaller lobbies

white loom
sinful wigeon
#

I love how all these complaints aren't being fixed or at least made better in the slightest, makes you wonder if they listen to the community

full dragon
#

World Tour is a really great idea. I've played way more with this new format.

sly sapphire
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Can we fix the infinite loading screen with terminal attack??? I can hear the game and countdown but cannot load in past the loading screen... so I wait 5mins and is always forced to force stop and relog into a matchmaking suspensio

charred ivy
thorn lark
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Can we limit the amount of classes for terminal? Like only two per each class to limit the crazy team dynamic of all of one class. Its frustrating already playing terminal ranked. But going against all lights with bows just honestly defeats the purpose. "Durr hurr skill issue", sure. But enjoy ranking up with every match like that

torpid vault
#

There's a controller input issue on PS5 ; after a game is over, Triangle is responsible for both reporting players and playing another game.

raven gale
#

This melee meta is so not fun

viral cipher
upper citrus
#

putting exclusive skins behind time locked ranks will only make cheating worse

haughty niche
#

Give sword back gadget swapping

warm compass
#

to embark buff aim assist its so hard to compete aginst mk

quick coyote
odd ibex
wispy latch
#

Season 1 balance coming back? This game is a joke now

somber mason
lofty marlin
dreamy gull
#

My game has been making my entire PS5 console to crash. Not the game, the entire console. This is the only game thatā€™s been doing it. What is happening? I buddy of mine also has the same issue but heā€™s on PC, he has a validate files everytime. For me my console shuts off and I have to reboot system.

sleek flame
#

There really needs a server for solo q only

topaz seal
#

would be great if the NEW icon would disappear from everywhere once you see it in some tab already, for instance the lvl up items or battlepass, if I see the NEW item on battlepass then it would be great if I didn't have to go to contestants to click on it again for the NEW icon to disappear

restive crescent
#

fix the infinite loading screen ASAP

tulip belfry
#

Bring back tanked cash out please TA SUCKS

paper gale
signal basin
#

Thanks Embarks team for doing this TA ranked mode. Even if you're doing a good match, you lose ? Ok so you're losing points ! Very interesting systems !!

I get ranked in bronze because of players like this. And now this is a pain in the ass to play correctly with players who can't play in team !

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placid hazel
#

why buff lh1 no skill anymore

rustic sandal
#

Embark i really love your game and have played since CB2 - Have been on board with most of the changes you guys have put in place but need to say that Terminal attack for ranked was not the move. Maps are not built for this as well as the game mode isnt balanced for this version of the game - Im all for trying new things but feel you should focus on what captivated so many people to begin with and work on it - If you put the effort into optimizing cashout/ranked tournament rather than the fad limited game modes i feel this is better for the loyal community who have stuck it out as well as build out the core that people can work towards and get better at.

glass mountain
#

Bring back OG barraicades and OG Lewis please!!!!!!

low oyster
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made the game uplayable with the rubbish idea for a game mode, ruined the experience for many by listening to people who dont know anthing about ranked competition and are on there more the monetary gain. Please listen to our request and revert the ranked back to the original mode and hire someone qualified dare i say someone with more then 5 brain cells working to help with the ranked system and weapon balance, you've wiped an entire class by removing heals and defibs and have some ass turret that shouldn't be in a mode where when you lose health u cant gain it back from a certain point. GIVE ME LEWIS GUN BACK PLEASSSEEE

midnight dock
#

I cant click play again in the post game menu because it's bound to the same button as report player, originally it was RB but now it's Y?

woven atlas
#

This isnt for real like I played season 2 it was great now 2 times it happened to me that my game is just loading the map and I hear the game has started I quickly restarted and it gave me Suspention great.

sharp briar
#

Add fish

spark briar
#

SPEAR FIRST STRIKE DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE IF MID AND LIGHT CAN WIPE ME OFF BEFORE I CAN STRIKE AT LEAST ONCE. ALSO PLEASE SOME KIND OF SLOW-STUN MAYBE 0.5 SECS SO HEAVY CAN DO SOMETHING?

wide talon
#

If you look at games with similar weapon balancing and player health pools to the finals you will notice they dont revolve around and search and destroy mode whilst games that do revolve around a search and destroy mode typicaly have a more level playing field. Siege, CSGO and Valorant are all games where the primary game mode is search and destory they all have low health pools for players and super low ttk. Its strange how the dev team thought more overwatch style huge hp pool characters with low ttk would work in a mode where all other industry leading games in said category do the complete opposite. It's almost like the finals was built for cashout and taking away revives and certain utillity doesnt balance the game for search and destroy.

queen bane
humble fractal
#

Suggestion: Ranked Powershift for S4

glossy jasper
#

I got a 10 minute ban because someone else left the game???

fast agate
#

I think they are aware that terminal attack is shit; as they prompt you with a survey ingame now regarding terminal attack. High hopes that they remove this as the main ranked mode

vagrant depot
#

Quick Idea too make more weapons viable: Customizble Sights, i think way more weapons would be used if u dont forced into iron sights at some weapons, maybe the famas would be viable or a mini red dot on the 93R maybe? Something like that would make it feel way better! ^^ (and ofc same way for Full Ar or other weapons)

upbeat urchin
#

Make the "play again button" RB like last season and not Y because Y is already report a player

viscid raft
#

make thermal bores scope actually based on scope sens, its so stupid

candid flower
#

Thermal is so bugged plz fix it was perfectly fine last season

full dragon
#

I have faced 2 aimbot + wallhacks in my ranked placements in 2 separate matches.... If TA competitive is what you're aiming for, this needs to be solved or there won't be any "competition" left.

thorn kelp
vapid pine
#

Bring back ranked cashoutn

worldly scaffold
hearty hatch
#

I just learned that new players are being forced to play 5 matches of TA.... that is a fantastic idea for killing all hype for THE FINALS.

I feel awful for new players that are going to miss out on the amazing-ness that is Cashout because it's being gate kept by a game mode not suited for the Finals. There's been multiple people who already uninstalled because they got bored of having to play TA.

I would really reconsider that decision....

wispy latch
#

swords vs gunsā€¦.swords counter everything, the grapple plus shotgun you just one hit šŸ’€, light class STILL the most overpowered class. Idk what are you doing embark but do you play youā€™re own game?

somber mason
#

TA was better last season now it sucks

muted jungle
#

Bro where is my new Goo Gun skin??? :(

foggy zephyr
#

Switch the thermite charge to medium, light shouldnā€™t have such big destruction capabilities

rich saddle
#

What have they done to the game??? It become imposible to play as M. Every single lobby is filled up with lights using knifes and bows. As soon as they've lowered damage from Fcar that shit happened

celest cairn
#

There should be another solos gamemode whether limited time or not +
The finals would really suit a takedown gamemode where two teams of 5 attempts to frag the other. Each time a player dies, re-spawn times get longer. The first team to have all 5 players dead at the same time loses the round. The game consists of 7 rounds. The first team to win 4 rounds wins the match. This best of 7 would be for casual however if it would be ranked it should be best of 13.
This gets rid of the third party issue that embark is worried about in cashout mode and would be more fast paced than terminal attack

feral mirage
#

Remove Ranked Terminal Attack. It's over bro

short solstice
#

This elo system while being transparent is absolutely trash. The devs should have been able to run some models to predict how it would play out based on a large sample. None of the top players can climb because they will play for hours winning 100 points at a time just to lose 2-4K to a single cheater. Cheaters used to be manageable in cash out but they are not being actioned on fast enough and are murdering the integrity of the leaderboard since they can solo a lobby. If embark was hoping TA and ruby would save the game they need to not have fumbled this rollout in such a significant way.

median nova
#

EMBARK I GOT INTO A GAME WITH 3 LVL 1S AND A LVL 4 TF IS THIS MATCHMAKING

pale quest
#

S2 weapons: still mid even after multiple buffs
S3 weapons: mid except most powerful new heavy ability by far
S4: even more mid weapons?

why embark keep doing this

also why lights had to be buffed BY THAT MUCH they were getting there in the balance and boom now most op class in one update idk the balancing team not taking their meds fr

tulip belfry
#

Bring back rank cash out

pearl mica
#

TA is just such a boring grind and not at all why the players who stuck around for 2 seasons loved the game.
You've robbed the people who love the competitive side of the game the mode they loved and shoehorned in something that does not fit this game one bit.

Please bring back ranked Cashout tournaments. The world tour is good but it should be a ranked playlist.

fallow otter
#

I really like the World Tour thing you guys have set up. Itā€™s new (apart from other comp shooters), itā€™s pretty refreshing, and the new map feels really different and interesting to play on. Personally, I havenā€™t had any MAJOR issues with FPS drops, as I know how to optimize my PC settings for balanced performance/graphics quality. I DO have a few notes. Iā€™ll put them in list form:

-It still seems that thereā€™s a decent amount of server instability (at least on US-East servers). This seems to mainly happen on the new map, especially during times of high world level destruction periods (such as a large building falling over, it seems the gameā€™s own physics is causing the server to lag)

-Terminal Attack as a ranked mode is a pretty cool idea, though I feel making it the MAIN section of The Finals ā€œRankedā€ is kind of a clunky system. World Tour (or Cashout IN GENERAL) seems like it could be a good fit for the ranked system that is being used on Terminal attack, plus, as Iā€™m sure itā€™s been previously mentioned, if players wanted to play a 5v5 tac shooter with a ā€œbombā€ and ā€œbomb sitesā€, thereā€™s plenty of other well-established games. Terminal attack isnā€™t a BAD, but it feels like forcing it to be the MAIN ranked mode. Perhaps it wouldnā€™t be a bad idea to have the two modes be ā€œequallyā€ rewarding, both with ranked modes that either have their own rewards, or build up to the same rewards, either one works.

-It feels as if damage registration in the servers feels a little OFF. I donā€™t know how to explain it, but Iā€™ve had it happen many times (to me AND my teammates) where our bullets/projectiles will fly directly through opponent players and do NO damage. This is also observable when we throw some things like grenades, it feels like the explosions or effects come seconds later than when we actually threw them.

-I would LOVE to see yā€™all try and make a solo cashout or bank it mode! Maybe an 8-12 player FFA?

-people need to stop being mean, the devs are trying their best.

midnight dock
#

ADD ASSISTS TO THE CAREER STATS MENU

hidden idol
lavish shard
quick coyote
#

Buff M60, Buff 93R, Buff Lewis Gun, and Buff MGL.

Nerf RPG, LH1 and charge n slam.

Nerfing heavies weapons that actually took EFFORT to get kills hurts actually good heavy players, causing them to rely on broken utility even more.

haughty niche
#

give sword back gadget swapping

queen shale
#

as a mgl main, yes. it takes an entire clip on heavy, 4 shots on medium. if my grenades dont explode on impact let them do a little damage. its already a skill shot to hit players with them. its the highest skill cap weapon in the game and the shitties weapon. really sucks as its the most enjoyable but i can never take a fair fight with it

plucky cypress
#

Anyone else getting a bug where you can't load into the game? This happens almost every game for me and ruins tourney for me

grim patrol
# quick coyote Buff M60, Buff 93R, Buff Lewis Gun, and Buff MGL. Nerf RPG, LH1 and charge n s...

I think m60 damage reduction was crazy to do, like with the new recoil pattern it'd be a lot more balanced and force you to hold down fire and make use of the massive mag. And I think mgl only needs an arena damage buff, player damage is still fine if you use it right.

And got 93r needs such a buff, like the best case scenario you aim at nipple height at mid range and land 3 shots with the last being a headshot

wispy latch
vocal shadow
#

i dont have the time to play but i got on to look and i think all the new stuff looks really cool.

rigid heart
#

A few takes I have on light class

Stim pistol

  • they should have a specialization that is kinda like docs stim pistol from r6 but instead of healing it gives them a speed boost and they can give their teammates the speed boost too giving light a more team based kit (which they need) and if the speed boost is too much it can be oversheild instead giving light over shield would be better for lights in fights bc they're a glass cannon class

X ray vision

  • lights can look through walls to see where a good entry spot would be, where mines are and where opponents are in that room this won't function like recon bc it won't ping/highlight people just give lights a better way to position and know their whereabouts and would work similar to thermal vision

Removing cloak for some other specialization

  • my reasoning on this is because there's vanishing bomb which imo is more useful than cloak because you can make your teammates invisible the finals is a team game why not give light more of a team but still solo based gadgets

Giving the grapple hook two or three charges

  • this makes grapple users less prone to dying after using their grapple hook or using it accidentally and will be better overall for grapple hook
grim edge
# wide talon If you look at games with similar weapon balancing and player health pools to th...

that's a good point. I distinctly hate SnD in games like this or Call of Duty with higher TTK. CS:GO, Valorant, etc are all games where you can die from stubbing your toe. It's too hard to make a high TTK game have a gamemode with one life. There are combos that you can do with your teammates to individual players to basically drain their health almost instantly because the game was built around the high TTK and respawn modes.

ocean shore
#

okay this is ridiculous. my game crashed and i get this penalty

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clear cloud
somber mason
#

i was DIAMOND last season only by playing support MEDIUM (i have a max 30 fps [20 on KIOTO]) i was keeping entire team alive so they could done more damage and now at TA (with is default ranked game) my playstyle is DEAD sad_friend

runic burrow
#

is cash out ranked back yet, or am i still leaving the game uninstalled?

golden rapids
earnest sierra
#

PLEASE IMPROVE THE OPTIMIZATION AND RESOURCE MANAGMENT OF THIS GAME THE OPTIMIZATION IS SO BAD IN THIS GAME PLEASE DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT

dreamy charm
low oyster
#

hit dimaon every season now they go and fuck me over when the diamond lewis gun is avalible like cmon mannn

short solstice
#

This elo system while being transparent is absolutely trash. The devs should have been able to run some models to predict how it would play out based on a large sample. None of the top players can climb because they will play for hours winning 100 points at a time just to lose 2-4K to a single cheater. Cheaters used to be manageable in cash out but they are not being actioned on fast enough and are murdering the integrity of the leaderboard since they can solo a lobby. If embark was hoping TA and ruby would save the game they need to not have fumbled this rollout in such a significant way.

crystal storm
#

Heavy:
-RPG > damage reduced DMG from 140 to 80.
-Winch hook > remove ability to hook player.(yes really)
-Mesh shield > Reduced HP from 1000 to 750.
-M60 > increase damage drop off range by 10 meters.
-Lewis gun > cleanup the recoil pattern to have less aggressive horizontaly.
-Charge and slam > reduce damage by half so you can instantly kill M.

Medium:
-Dual swords > Remove the ability to deflect, instead blocks for half of incoming damage, lower movespeed while deflecting
-Turret > Add a attack delay of 0.5s so it doesnt instantly shoot you..

Light:
-Bow > reduced projectile speed.
-Throwing daggers > Make the projectiles lose velocity and damage over distance.
-Sword > increase the swing time and derease the attack speed.
-93R > increase damage and range

Explo mines > damage from multi mines exploding from multiple sources do not stack. Damage reduced from 140 to 80.
Remove aim assist for melee weapons while playing with keyboard and mouse.

Remove Terminal attack from the game permanently.

red vortex
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Can you release a map editor? So we can have custom/community maps, like in Overwatch, CS and else. Would be insaneeee!

jaunty merlin
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force people to play the tutorial, its not fair on everyone else

tame crag
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It feels like heavyā€™s weapons are pretty weak at the moment.

Though the Lewis was really powerful, it doesnā€™t feel good right now nearly losing 1v1s against a light head-on, as that should be where the heavy shines.

swift pulsar
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honestly think the bow is fine... yall coping fr

raw sail
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Hey Embark hey Embark, can one of you guys maybe read this out for me please, I lost my glasses

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topaz seal
misty jasper
versed cloud
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Can we fix the spawns on TA? Why are we getting spaw camped so easily in this new mode?

rich saddle
tribal shore
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What are the chances of new trophies/achievements? So many games have been skipping out on them recently and it's very sad to see as a big trophy guy. I had some copium that S3 would add some but no half_friend

undone tiger
summer elk
warped matrix
scenic forge
celest cairn
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Terminal Attack rework:

  • No heals
  • No revives
  • Best of 6 (60k)

Attackers and defenders spawn in with 20 second wait time.
The attackers attack 1 of the 2 optional points and the defenders have to defend. If any player dies, they don't respawn until a their full team dies. If the attackers get the encryption key to the terminal, the defenders have the normal time to decrypt it. If all the defenders die the terminal finishes and the attackers gain money (10k which is equal to 1 point). The defenders will then have to wait the usual 20-25 seconds. This stays consistent with the established branding of the finals.

If all the attackers die, they don't respawn until the defenders can decrypt the terminal or the terminal finishes. Once decrypted the defenders gain money (10k), or if they somehow fail to decrypt it then the attackers gain 10k. Once this happens the attackers have to wait a 20-25 second respawn.

When either the attackers succeed in loading the key in the terminal and the time has finished or they have killed the defenders; when the defender manages to decrypt the terminal or kill the attackers before they reach the key to the terminal: the attackers have to get a new key that will spawn somewhere in the map - they will just have to pick it up to retrieve it. Meanwhile the defenders go to the new 2 defending points.

This repeats until it has happened 3 times. Once this happens the teams will switch so defenders become attackers etc. The switched teams will also have 3 rounds to fight. If there is a tie breaker so for example, defenders gain 30k in first half then new defenders gain 30k in second half then the sides switch again for the match point.

This gets rid of the slow, annoying wait times before each round and there will only be a wait when the half switches. As a result it will result in the normal fast paced experience of The Finals whilst still being a familiar search and destroy (albeit with The Finals experience) @pearl kiln

rough herald
bright sage
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There's currently a glitch, with the heavy winch claw, that makes it so that light players who are eliminated whilst grabbed with it, will be bugged out. Some of the effects of this bug I've seen are:
- They will be unable to activate their specialization
- Unable to interact with things in the arena that require a button to be pressed (Zip-lines, doors, carriables, reviving)
- Makes the player unable to crouch (but you can still slide for some reason, but you're standing up whilst doing it) thereby making it so that you can't go through vents and such
- The player will have a slight delay in movement from when the user would make an input
- And the POV of the player seems to be slightly raised

All of these effects will last until the round is over, even upon death nothing will change

As far as I'm concerned, it seems that the player gets stuck in a state of being grabbed, which then locks them from doing these things. I really hope we can find a fix for this soon, as it will make an entire round unplayable, and practically unwinnable.

dense heart
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give medium a weaker grapple (like a grapple gun) or somthing to leave fights due to vaulniribility with dual swords to make them a viable choice

unreal salmon
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after cloaking there should be a small window (1s or similar) where taking damage doesnt de-cloak you.

wide temple
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Eirborg#4545 is a cheater

sharp willow
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who ever decided ta was a good idea needs to get fucking fired

viscid tundra
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Buff dual blades Please

strong escarp
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  • Revert the LH1 damage buff. Thing was already OP last season. Crazy that it got BUFFED.
  • Revert the 93R fire rate nerf. This gun has no niche. XP-54 is much better at range, even as a headshot machine.
  • Bring back Ranked Tournament.
viral cipher
sand hazel
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I dont know if it was intentinal or not but with the winch you can pull people through/over your barricades which is kinda fucked up since you can just pull them through the object

sacred glacier
woeful pecan
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Takes way too long to unlock new weapons, and have maybe played the new map 1 out of 10 games. New content drops and havenā€™t been able to play with any of it. Really wish you wouldnā€™t make it such a grind. Would have liked to see some new guns also, just melee and a bow.

urban marsh
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For the first time i donā€™t have any fun in this gameā€¦poor performance with huge fps drops, just lights everywhere that mets you on spot, heavy that chain you and rpg youā€¦for a medium is just painā€¦i really hope they will make some changes cause rn is chaos everywhere.

atomic sparrow
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Itā€™s terrible that you can get grabbed while in the revived animation after a defib

teal atlas
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Im going to check right now but the last season, the tv charm was broken on linux

bleak hollow
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Keyboard and mouse support on Xbox please šŸ™

next pike
lavish shard
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Nerf Lh1
Nerf spam TK bow
Nerf Rpg claw
Reduce recoil m60/lewis
Light need survivality not damage buff

sleek flame
violet wing
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New cashout format is atrocious, it's a killfest with little strategy permissible.

frosty forge
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Remove forced motion blur between TA rounds

woven atlas
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i have motion blur without motion blur for real

manic mountain
tacit apex
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You are loosing your players if you continue like this

unreal fossil
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I've been playing since the beginning of S1. Reached Diamond in S2. 550+ hours spent in game. I have very mixed feelings on the early days of S3.

Aesthetically speaking, the game is still as stunning as ever. The Japan theme was an excellent choice, the new skins are very good, Kyoto is visually stunning and filled with details.

I've played one game of TA ranked. It was incredibly boring and I probably won't be back. The mode failed to convince me during S2 already. Making it the only ranked mode was a critical mistake. I'm afraid it was decided by Nexon, seeking to attract players from other similar FPS games. Many publishers have this vision that replicating what works elsewhere is the way to go. Embark has to defend its project and community there. Tell Nexon executives they made the wrong choice. We are playing The Finals for its unique Cashout mode. It's what made this game stand out, and what will ultimately make it succeed. Anything else may very well kill this game.

My other problem with S3 is the dynamic between classes. Light class got several nerfs during S2. It needed buffs to compensate. Health regen was a good call. The weapons buffs not so much.

Playing M/H, it now feels like you have to try harder than ever to defeat swarms of L with higher mobility and DPS. You can't really escape, you can't afford to miss your shots either, while getting constantly spammed with LH1/TK/bow. Unless you resort to oppressive tactics yourself. It doesn't feel right.

The issue is glaring on Kyoto, which was obviously designed to favor CQC. But the dense bamboo forest, and big buildings with small rooms that are very easy to destroy make fights too chaotic. It wouldn't be as bad if M/H had slightly higher DPS weapons, but then this would probably throw balance off on all other maps. I don't know.

sterile cobalt
topaz seal
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so it seems that there are a lot of trolls in the world cup mode, where they dont even want to win but just mess with people

quick coyote
polar ermine
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Back again to remind Embark that whoever is deciding balance needs to be fired, they are useless at their job. I got about 1/3rd of a season in me with stupid balance decisions before I call this game over. YOU KNOW they're dumb when they say in the patch notes "should incentive headshots" but they make the LH1 3 tap lights and mediums to the body, like how dumb can you be honestly, first knives, now this. If people suck at getting in and doing damage and can't get that slither of health remianing by going back in or just while they're in then let them suck, why you keep buffing light so they don't need team mates I do not understand. You don't have an asnswer it's just dumb, it's not thinking, sort it out.

storm siren
feral mirage
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Remove Terminal Attack

violet elbow
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can this shit already be fixed

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icy kestrel
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Terminal attack killed ranked #bringbackcashout

woeful pecan
# tacit apex You are loosing your players if you continue like this

I agree.. Played about 15 games of Power shit and have gotten Kyoto once. As a casual person who wants to come play when I have time, there needs to be some balance done with the game. New weapons feel OP, don't have them unlocked so can't test. But I'm just getting smashed with melee, and bows. Medium ranged guns feel like they are lacking now. Again I have to say I want to play new content and after 15 games still haven't been able to unlock one of the new weapons, and have played the new map once. Think I'm going to take a break until I see some changes to the grind, and balance changes to weapons. Its not fun to grind for nothing, and get smashed with OP weapons I can't unlock. To many melee weapons also isn't this game suppose to be a shooter, need more guns in the game. Japan is an awesome setting but I don't think time was put into thought on the new weapons and the weapon balance.

obsidian solar
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BUFF THE RIOT SHIELD:
Here are a few ways that can improve the shield, as it underperforms against any other ranged and melee weapon. I know all of these together would make the shield pretty strong but even 1 or 2 would be enough to improve it so much!:

  • While blocking movement speed should be the same as walking (increasing block movement speed would help a lot in pushing and giving your teammates support)
  • The shield should block a larger area of the body to make it more consistent at blocking melee, bullets, and splash damage. Players with decent aim can easily hit the arms and legs which defeats the whole purpose of it.
  • Blocking melee attacks should inflict a knockback to prevent melee weapons from clipping through and scoring a second hit with the active frames.
  • Increase the melee range, even just +1m of range would make it feel so much better to catch enemies that were just outside your range before.
  • Electrify the baton and allow it to glitch enemies for a very short period, it would provide a lot of team utility and prevent dash lights and charge and slam heavies from effortlessly hard countering shielders

FIX THE RIOT SHIELD BUGS:

  • When picking up throwables in the arena, the first person shield model gets messed up and blocks your entire screen.
  • Remove the fov and turning speed reduction when you raise the shield to block, it makes it overly clunky to use and feels terrible in a fast pace environment.

HOLDING THE DAGGER BACKSTAB:

  • Make it so you can hold the backstab and it's not a forced animation, revert it like it was in the Open Beta

GIVE SMOKE GRENADES TO ALL CLASSES:

  • Give smoke grenade to all classes! It would open so many strategies for the other builds! I would use smoke so much if it was on medium, especially to better support my team against fire, detection sources, or to help revive teammates, and steal cashouts in an open area.

FIX THE GLITCH TRAP:

  • Glitched heavy can still use the winch claw and it doesn't stop chargeNslam
frozen fractal
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hey embark, can you AT LEAST make elo matchmaking for World Tour

vapid pine
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Bring back ranked cashout

livid osprey
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Bring back ranked cashout

digital plover
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Bring back ranked cashout

swift latch
umbral warren
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TA Ranked "Rebuilding The Arena For Next Round" freeze šŸ™‚

silent palm
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Bring back ranked cashout

sinful gazelle
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TA rank enjoyers are losers

Being back cashout rank

urban marsh
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Man i m 100% with you i manage to solo q to diamond in s2, as a medium and for me the game was balanced, rank was decent with a good teamā€¦. But rn i m not enjoying anything, the new map is gorgeous but soo bad optimised and every fps drop gets you killed, rank is full of a mix of players that ether play for kills or not as a team. Yah light need it a buffedā€¦ but not to the dmg but on they lifeā€¦. Rn medium is the lowest then ever, at least heavy can rpg them, immobilise themā€¦ all the light class weapons got so buffed that ttk is the highest in game and combined with huge mobility is hard to do smthing to them. Me and my friends we try it in a private mach and light always gets on top, can take heavy shilds out and spam the lh1 and 3 shots and dead 2 on medium with 1 headshotsā€¦the revolver always does 99% dmg and 1 hp letf lft you killed, fcar akm takes to long to do dmg to them. Rn light is meta by far

nimble mango
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Heavy LMG changes are not fun. I understand tinkering around with them, but i don't like the new "one is less accurate when starting to fire, and one is but loses accuracy" change. I'd love for them to be consistent, which the M60 really doesn't feel like right now. The damage nerfs hit especially hard and leave people at low health a lot more often than what it should.
Just keep it as "M60 wins in close range due to ROF and mag size" and "Lewis wins at longer ranges due to lower damage falloff and better accuracy". Please.

crystal storm
ocean shore
bright sage
short solstice
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This elo system while being transparent is absolutely trash. The devs should have been able to run some models to predict how it would play out based on a large sample. None of the top players can climb because they will play for hours winning 100 points at a time just to lose 2-4K to a single cheater. Cheaters used to be manageable in cash out but they are not being actioned on fast enough and are murdering the integrity of the leaderboard since they can solo a lobby. If embark was hoping TA and ruby would save the game they need to not have fumbled this rollout in such a significant way.

chrome stream
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This is more of an idea/request <@&1012034066876473384> : s

Have 2 audio outputs. One for an audience and one personal.
Content creators can then leave all the audio on for the audience and a cinematic experience, but tweak their personal settings to say, hear less crowd.

Eventually in like 10 years, they'll have some option to do this visually too I think, audience graphics on full and personal on competitive settings, but obviously that's not viable atm.

Maybe audio isn't either but figured it'd be more viable.

thorn lark
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Bring back ranked cashout