👂┇game-feedback

[timid siren]

Won 2 rounds of world tour, and my third round never started. Stuck at "connecting..." 😦

[teal minnow]

EMBARK FOR GOD'S SAKE MAKE YOUR MUSIC AVAILABLE ON SOUNDCLOUND TO AND TO ALL COUNRTY😭

[patent kernel]

Man the dual blades are just not working for medium no movement at all 🤷

[gray linden]

YEAH LETS PLAY THE SAME MAP OVER AND OVER AND OVER, AND REMOVE RANKED PLAY IN FAVOR OF A TIRED AF GAME MODE TO CATER TO THE LOWEST RUNG OF THE COMMUNITY YOU TOTAL TRASHCANS

[low rock]

Where 👏 are 👏 the 👏 pride 👏 pants 👏 from 👏 beta

[dusky rune]

Please nerf the flame thrower its so op🪑

[signal bronze]

Please please buff the R.357 I want it to be viable so bad

[cyan fern]

Bro I agree so much

[crystal umbra]

I'm actually liking the cheering of the crowd in the background.

Give off a certain aura to the World Tour feel.

Another step towards improving the "glorious" gameshow aspect. W

[nimble kiln]

servers die and i get banned for 30 minutes

[opal plover]

When that happens best thing to try is to kill the game and rerun, you should get a reconnect option

[jaunty pawn]

Just download it off youtube and add it any device you want

[quick coyote]

im usually supportive of dev decisions, freshness in the game is welcome…but please, a ranked mode with limited loadouts and one life is ridiculous

[gentle moss]

patchnotes says goo gun got a new level but it doesnt show in game?

[echo void]

Embark please add cat ears! We already have bunny ears so why not cat ears too?

[compact mason]

I want to have back the normal ranked cashout, it feels meaningless to play serious now, when i cant even lose anything.

[plush grotto]

TA is a light meta 100%

[tidal mirage]

I... not being able to play the game. Something is wrong. Just tryed to play a match and it got stuck in the loading.

[heavy shell]

plz dont make terminal attack the main ranked mode or at least let it rotate

[broken geyser]

EMBARKS. Allow heavy players to throw their spears. But not unlimited like the throwing knives. Instead when u throw it once u have to wait for it to come back to ur hand kinda like Thors hammer. It's literally a SPEAR. And having to wait for it to come back even to engage in close range battle prevents it from being overpowered but viable longer distances. Maybe allow players to aim and throw it through by toggling on and off the aiming mode. WE NEED THIS IN THE FINALS.

[gray flare]

bro you guys STILL didn't fix the healing beam disabling glitch? this is fucking embarrassing dude

[spare umbra]

I loooove this game so much but put Terminal Attack in rank mode is litteraly against why players love this game... It's slow and boring. The Finals players wants fun and speed !

[gusty echo]

TA is garbage I'll skip this season till cashout comeback i guess

[sour rover]

retweet

[quick coyote]

ta is boring even when you win

[upper ruin]

We need a way to just save our outfits bru seperwtely of contestants

[west owl]

I don't play ranked. I just want to play Kyoto... Quick play should have kyoto running 5 times out of 10 early in season

[wind hatch]

yo devs you think we wouldnt notice that instead of making good changes to the game you just added genji, roadhog and hanzo? BIG L SEASON

[lilac citrus]

Dawg double barrel onetap is getting annoying

[wind summit]

Japanese beards when?

[dapper gale]

yo embark i just got que banned cause ur servers are inting unban me plz (name is BackshotBandit)

[velvet blade]

same bro

[violet elbow]

I have this weird bug in Terminal Attack where the fun isn't working. Please fix soon!

[fresh coyote]

Never have I ever left a rank game until today shi trash played 13 rounds to get 1 placement point

[small prism]

LH1 is way overtuned especially in TA

[stoic mist]

Found a bug, where everyone disconnected in a tour match, and only one team is in, free win

[outer slate]

I have this weird bug in Terminal Attack where the fun isn't working. Please fix soon!

[plain fable]

I have this weird bug in Terminal Attack where the fun isn't working. Please fix soon!

[slender pendant]

HOW TO FIX TERMINAL ATTACK
Delete it because it was LTM gamemode

HOW TO FIX CASHOUT
You dont need to fix it, its already perfect as it can be.

[weak valley]

TA should not be the only mode for new players when they boot up the game. This doesn’t seem right. When you first start a new game you want to learn mechanics and what, as a player, you can do. Not play a high risk, one life, slow paced game mode. That’s an immediate disadvantage. Give them power shift to warm up on mechanics or what not… and what about the tutorial.. and then forcing them into TA. This isn’t right.

[idle urchin]

Hey I keep running into an issue every single time I play. I use an Xbox series S and there’s a resume play feature so I can leave my Xbox for a couple hours and get back to where I left off. Well anytime I do that with The Finals it never lets me play a match it will always say something went wrong. It’s not a major issue but it would be amazing if it got fixed. Edit: ( whenever I try to join a match or anything it will say something went wrong. It happens to all game modes not just one.)

[teal bear]

Is there any word on if we will be getting the ability to have pre saved outfits? The fashion in this game is getting absolutely insane and I want to be able to switch to different outfits for different maps.

[chrome citrus]

T attack is trash

[glass fjord]

I have the same bug in Terminal Attack where the fun isn't working. Please fix soon!

@gray flare and the no shoot glitch thats been in the game since cb1 still isnt fixed..... BUT HERES A BORING GAMEMODE FOR YOU PLAY GUYS

@night spruce I'd put about 2k on it being nexon execs.

[night spruce]

really wondering who decided to make TA the ranked mode.

[icy kestrel]

Man i dont know competitive is kinda garbage now........was Diamond 3 last season but playing TA just makes me wanna cry.....wheres my beautiful the finals???

[dapper aurora]

Terminal attack is so asssss you said it was gonna change you lied to us it's boring you're ruining the core gameplay

[storm siren]

apparently we asked for it

[quick coyote]

If you don’t like terminal attack don’t play it

[haughty niche]

give gadget swapping back to sword

[lusty gull]

would be really cool to se a specilisation that is insta reload

[rapid river]

Dual sword is kinda of wack. They need to either buff our movement speed or make the deflect take less to no damage.

[errant leaf]

😂😂 they will be all unemployed very soon

U wanna remove the fun from your game? Call the embark team! They will completely destroy it.

Using TA as ranked mode is bullshit and the reason "we are working on cash out using world tour" is also bullshit. World tour is too bad, I wipe entire lobbies alone because of noobs. At least implement a matchmaking based on rank, and implement losing points each round (at least).

[visual sierra]

I got suspended for leaving after someone left and the message warning not to leave was gone. The game was counting down to the cancellation of the game, and everyone starts leaving, and so we leave too, and now I'm suspended for 10 minutes. That seems dumb.

[quick coyote]

It feels like half of this update was just rushed to fill itself.

Let me elaborate:

• Terminal Attack feels like it was only made the ranked mode because Embark felt that having a Semi-Ranked mode in the way of World Tour would make having Cashout stay as the primary ranked mode redundant.

• Terminal attack was rushed so much that the trailer for it was made before the balance changes were implemented.

• The weapons, the spear especially, feel unfinished and unpolished. Who thought making the player play an emote was a good way to make a weapon?

• Not to mention how horrendously it misses lights and anyone above or below you during the animation.

• Likewise, the hook doesn't work on the playground targets.

• The tutorial for terminal attack is non-functional.
  I'll elaborate on the last part here with this video clip.

• June seems to have gotten brain damage, the reset really did a number on her. "A bold move starting without eliminating those defenders." Yeah. I tried to do that June. Didn't work, now did it?

[glacial knot]

So many briandeads in this game, someone he used light class , push always at the front he dies and tell me i should change the class thats why we lost OMG dear devs can you add a little bit intelligence ingame for some people 😂😁

[feral mirage]

Don't make new players play Terminal Attack

[dark niche]

terminal is worse thing they can add for ranked, 1 life i dont want a siege copy.

[hexed abyss]

dont make people play terminal attack perdiod. this shit sucks ass

[urban marsh]

man heavy is broke .... they need to nerf it or rework it, can t do anything when they grab you and hammer you... how can i fight that..yah as a light you can dash it.....and you call fare play.... what i m saying is that the same as s 1 and s 2 , play h and you win most of the times..... @thorn socket is not an nerf... is that now light got buffed without a work on medium, they can kill you faster than y , and fcar akm is the only way to go, the revolver take to much work to kill , the shotgun is the same, when you buff a class at least buff the other one to... don t get me wrong i m happy they buffed the light, hell yah, but as a medium main i can t say i have fun rn, it takes soo long and so much work for a kill when is easy to get heavy and "come over here" hammer the guy, or play light with invis and lh 1.....

[feral carbon]

make people able to choose to suffer in ta instead of forcing them to in ranked

[past cloak]

After having played a few more matches and already having provided some negative feedback earlier on...

• The new map is f***ing amazing. Jesus christ what a beautiful and fun map to traverse. Truly feels like the embodiment of The Finals, with lots of jump pads, verticality, wide horizontal spaces, open areas, closed areas, multiple floors on houses, closets and other hiding cubbies, etc. absolutely LOVE IT❣️. You guys have truly outdone yourselves, thank you so much for making this map!
• This Battlepass has the coolest skins so far, imho! Absolutely love the styles, and the new anime skin seems very fun, very "Fortnite-esque" (the comparison is inevitable, although I do not mean it at all in a negative way) with the style change when compared to the rest of the game, but not only do I personally think it 100% matches the VR-game premise, I think that since we can customize specific body parts it actually could lead to some amazing styles down the line, surpassing the Fortnite comparison.

Only negative feedback I'll mention here;

• There is a bug with one of the light's gadgets that provides completely unfair advantage to the user, akin to hacking. I dont know if it should be disclosed openly, but even if it should, I can't create a bug report in the threads here in discord, so I don't even know where to report it. If any mod wants to DM me, I can try to detail what I know about it, I don't have a surefire way to reproduce it but I still think it should be looked into, as especially in ranked, it would be ridiculously unfair.

[gritty rampart]

Please make all of the Holtow cosmetics use the same shade of orange. The older cosmetics use a much redder shade of orange, while the newer ones are using a much better, regular shade orange. Kinda sucks trying to combine different Holtow cosmetics when their shades of orange are clashing against each other.

[sterile ruin]

Loading screen on Seoul is freezing for powershift. plus heavy spear using their right click attack is making the entire platform sway off the track.

[quartz whale]

The server just crashed, we "can" reconnect but it won't make us reconnect. I am feeling that we're gonna have penalty
https://i.ibb.co/k3BxF0P/image.png

[floral peak]

Why does the data reshaper STILL not give out EMP Barrels?

[wanton anchor]

They should make the battlepass weapon skins be for all weapons not for one single one

[cerulean flower]

NERF THE BOW!!
wtf is that thing.. oneshot as an L from an L what is that

sniper & shotgun are nowhere near as easy

[tight garden]

I mean sniper one shot headshot to lights wdym?

[jade ingot]

Shotgun also

[supple dust]

game crashed while loading world tour and i get suspendedf

[lucid spade]

Please god I don’t want to play ranked terminal attack bring back ranked cash out 💀💀

[crystal umbra]

A stun gun like trap would be interesting.

Maybe a goo trap?

Freeze trap?

[timber igloo]

for the first time since the game started I think medium is getting contested for the necessary class, and while i do think hook is kinda overtuned, I just can't see medium as anything less that a monster of a class. Granted, some weapons suck, but like... all classes have bad weapons

[molten trail]

rpg dmg 140 🤡 charge dmg 130 🤡

[signal basin]

RANKED IS SHIT
HOOK SHOULDN'T DO DMG OR STUN GUN AS TO DO TOO
CHEATERS ARE BACK

[wheat frigate]

HOLY hell Terminal Attack is SOOOOOOO BORING its not even a troll comment. only did 4 placements and I dont think i can even finish 8........

[gray linden]

HEY LETS JUST PLAY THE SAME MAP FOR 14 DAYS GUYS NP. OR WE COULD GO PLAY A TAF GAME MODE THAT NOBODY IN YOUR CORE COMMUNITY WANTS OR EVEN LIKES. STOP CATERING TO CS TRASHCANS

[heavy shell]

motion blur wont stay disabled????

[topaz sundial]

Reverse the Terminal Attack changes. You've absolutely ruined what was a great game mode

[civic radish]

Has anyone got disconnected from a game and unable to reconnect? It just says ever connection time out (TFGE0003) but my internet is fine.

[idle geyser]

Literally every game is just my group rolling the enemy team, the enemy goes 0-7 and then we move on to the next, they get NO kills. This is not fun for us, not fun for them. TA is TRASH

[junior badge]

is it just me or is chain busted

[foggy ginkgo]

Its called get better and stop complaining. Skill issue. The weapons been out for barely a day give it some times

[viral citrus]

Add iq test

[proud thistle]

TA is not for a game where you have giant maps and destruction everywhere

[small prawn]

I'm sorry but why limit your player base to 1 type of ranked mode? If you guys genuinely care about the game and don't want it to die off give the power of choice to your players. Keep Ranked TA for the players who actually like it, and Keep Ranked Tournament for majority of player base who wants it. Suddenly taking away a core component of your game from the audience is probably the most ridiculous move you guys could've made. I'll never understand why devs make moves like this that nobody asked for.

[dull moth]

Ranked cashout pls

[manic steppe]

Ranked Cashout Please

[brave quarry]

Ranked cashout please !

[vital flare]

iagree

[tender verge]

Why is ranked cashout gone?

[tired oasis]

Cooldown 🤡

[grim olive]

TA = Bad

[trim steeple]

+1

[wet surge]

i think the new hook has too long of a cooldown

[sour rover]

embark just killed a game with one update lmao terminal attack as only ranked game mode is delusional who ever approved that should be fired

[coral forum]

RANKED CASHOUT NOW!!!!

[misty jasper]

y’all really can’t give it more than a day lmao

[knotty stag]

Does Kyoto even exist? We played for hrs and have a blast so far. But we haven't had a single match on the new map yet.

[last tusk]

Whenever I load up the game it is stuck on black screen, and recource monitor it says its not responding. Never happened before just after s3 update. Any fixes?

[analog bear]

I only get Kyoto rn

[upper citrus]

the skill issue is real

[oak gate]

Can we get a new dev team please? at this point the current devs just seem too incompetent, theyve fumbled this game so much each season

[celest lion]

BRING BACK TOURNAMENTS
just because you can't figure out how to fix your ranking system doesn't mean you remove it entirely

[pallid sierra]

How the hell did yall overlook triangle being the button to requeue and to report a player? What was wrong with r1 being the button

[sullen ridge]

What version of game are you playing? Me and my friends are having a blast!

[vapid pine]

Bring back ranked cashout or suffer.

[bold rose]

Idk If it's a bug but sometimes when I hook someone he just fly pass me

[alpine wren]

the season 3 album is nowhere to be found on Deezer. And the linke link points to the season 1 album.

[tough oar]

bro please i cant even lie this season has brought more ass than good. revert it right now. medium swords are actualy cancer to play against. Terminal attack is still ass and my fps has halfed wtaf

[worn spade]

Embark where is the MnK support on consoles lul

[elfin karma]

hey devs, so yeah i was feeling negative about terminal attack, but the removal of casual cashout made me actually annoyed
Great additions this season, but all the fun has been removed, my duo played one game after no-lifing season two and was like "yeah this isn't fun"
I still haven't finished my opinion yet, will give more useful critiques when i can

[nimble anvil]

wtf?

[hollow breach]

Can we do something about flashbang from teammates? I am kind of getting sick from teammates throwing a flashbang and I have no indicator or warning and just get a full blind from an allied flashbang. It's the most obnoxious thing ever. I suggest giving an little icon indicator or just reduce half the duration of it for allies...

[wanton wolf]

Can you go to the practice range together with a friend or what's the best way to test out things in a controlled environment?

[silk tartan]

if you have comms with your teammates or just use ur eyes you should know there will be a flash

[mellow bridge]

3v3 private match i think

[bronze cave]

anyone else disappointed in the diamond fcar skin? It looked so much nicer in the picture

[obtuse stump]

Please Embark, bring back ranked cashout and get rid off Terminal attack or make it a ranked mode along side cashout. Cashout is fun and original, Terminal Attack is not.

[runic torrent]

Servers down?

[quartz shell]

Just tried TA ranked and its very boring, if you are alone and the opposing team is a premade team you can't win omg

[obtuse wedge]

was gonna say this too, pls upgrade the practice room and also allow player(s) to enter the same practice room (EVEN IF THEY ARE QUEUING, one of the most important thing). So boring to wait for the queue and want to warm up while waiting or chatting with friends and found out some interesting gadget combos

[tame tendon]

REQUEST: i really wish if there was a Kyoto only mode for the launch of S3!

[jagged dock]

Bring back the CASHOUT RANKED MODE

[dawn dew]

Embark pls change the season 3 starter pack to cost multibucks on Xbox I can't purchase it cause of error code TFCP0005 or at least add it to the Microsoft store like the bunny outfit was

[fast agate]

terminal attack as ranked is going to kill this game; mark my words. this game became fun because it was new

[torpid quarry]

I swear you people are being ridiculous with your feedback. "can we get a new dev team" WHAT???

Argue as you want and send your opinion on how we can improve things further, but saying that the game is not fun is simply not true. It can get better and be more competitive, but it is fun. I'm not a TA fan but I had fun playing it and I'm sure others are enjoying it too. Everything can be better, but don't just negate the extremely positive things about this game.

And all this talk about nerfing or buffing. I'm so inclined to say it is a skill issue on every single complain. I'm not a great player, I'm trying to enjoying a light build, but I'm not competent enough to pull that off so I go with medium on ranked. Just stick to what you can play with and accept the fact that there are better players.

The ranked system will take iterations and iterations to be perfect. The game is fast-paced and that makes it difficult to find the right balance and that's okay. Just stick to it and support the work that is being done.

[zealous lark]

Game bad

[quick coyote]

I don't like how less exciting the new results screen is with just showing stat cards. The previous victory screens looking at the entire team emoting was a lot more exciting, which is part of the appeal of this game. Stat cards don't feel as though we're watching an actual game show.

Edit: nvm the og sequence is still there and I hadn't seen it somehow

[novel zephyr]

I'm curious why World Tour is only one game mode, like Cashout. I hate Cashout games and only play TA and Power Shift. So yeah....

[lyric pumice]

When viewing weapon and gadget skins i wish i could see my player holding said skin to see if it matches

[shadow wedge]

at the end of the season there'll be other gamemodes

[bitter root]

a real shot-caller

[celest tree]

make turrets disabled when you kill the person who put it

[wanton anchor]

Ikr it’s so dumb r1 was fine@pallid sierra

[random smelt]

So I have some things that I wanna get off my chest and yes I know some people wont agree where some will but I don't care that much, so heavy needs some sort of balance patch this season not only that, Ranked Cashout should be brought back and also as a light player (people hate me) I need to always get in and out of fights which I think is good because light is a high risk high reward type class and the main problem I have right now is I'm not having fun, some other people might but me I'm not and it really bugging me and I cant pinpoint the exact reason to why last season was a blast but this season not so far, its just filled with heavy/medium and a bunch of explosions, turret etc. As a light its feel so hard to even GET IN a situation that could help me and my team win (I feel like air) now I'm not saying I don't make mistakes in games but I've played this game quite a bit and this season hit like a truck to me especially since it feels like heavy class is getting a buff and its already hard for me to play a sword even though I get 20-40 kills per game but that doesn't even matter because at the end of the game I cant do everything, also I play mainly sword and you removed gadget swap which felt like it evened out the playing feel quite nicely with sword. I might just be complaining but honestly I very much enjoy this game but it just feels bland now because of the changes this season which I really hope the dev team fixes it asap. I don't want to start like an argument on if what I'm saying is right or wrong I just want the fun of the game to not be ruined for me and others as well. Also I don't blame the devs too much cause I know you cant make everyone happy and enjoy the game but alteast hear people out with like yall did in the past and change some aspect of the game.

[cold bolt]

ability to save slots of our style/voicelines/etc to just copy and paste to other classes pls, very inconvenient to equip per character

[haughty peak]

I tried to play a round of Worldtour with friends and got Stuck in the loading screen, so i closed my game expecting to be able to rejoin after restarting the game, but i didn't have the option even tho WorldTour is considered a competetive game Mode, and my Teammates don't get a new teammate. Additionaly i got a penality, for leaving the game, because the game didn't start.

[feral carbon]

pls return ranked tournament with new ranked system

[plain fable]

Please, I love this game so much, but replacing the ranked mode this game was built around with an r6 clone was not the answer. Terminal attack feels slow and the opposite of fun. No respawns and limited equipment is not fun and does not fit this game. It was interesting as a temporary event that you could play a couple matches of and then go back to the core experience but even during the event last season, everyone I talked to thought the game mode was a weird choice and I don’t know anyone who touched it after they completed their challenges for it. At the very least give us ranked cashout as an option. If you’re worried no one will play ranked terminal attack if ranked cashout is available, shouldn’t that give you the answer to what people actually want to play? The changes to ranked transparency and punishing leavers/cancelling games with a leaver are HUGELY appreciated and show you’re listening but please, for the love of god, give us back ranked tournaments.

[lament talon]

the spear right click is horrible by design looks dumb and no regs so often

[rare rock]

OI! UNLOCK QUICKPLAY FOR NEW PLAYERS!!!! OSCAR BLINK TWICE IF NEXONS TRYING TO FORCE YOUR HAND

[green wharf]

New season is great but why did you change the Season 3 Starter Pack to cost $10 instead of Multibucks like I have lots of coins leftover from a $50 bundle I bought that I was saving for this bundle but now those Multibucks are useless when I now have to buy it with money again

[pallid iris]

how to kill a game with this one simple trick

[pine flower]

Really? They locked quick cash before 5 matches of Terminal Attack? @pearl kiln Wtf is going on there? Who is making you put your worst foot forward?

[short canopy]

TA ranked and forcing new players to play TA is extremely insulting to the dedicated playerbase. We want the finals!!!!! Not knockoff cs

[glacial knot]

This fking chain should only pull . It should not bind hands and feet.. heavy has high hp and then just pull and with speer one hit light wtf is that i cant even espace

[plucky coyote]

@eternal needle shhhh

[radiant osprey]

Embark pls make it that u can have secondary weapons… I think that every gun should be primary weapons and melee weapon should be secondary weapons. Obviously every gun and melee weapon will only be available to its respected class for example, fcar as primary and dual blades as secondary only for medium. I hope u understand what I’m trying to say and I would appreciate it if u took this into consideration, thank u.

[fresh coyote]

Nah dog shi not fun

[sick latch]

100% fk TA. now when u play as a duo u´ll get 3 idiots mostly... im getting out of ranked than

[shrewd egret]

remove TA Ranked bring back cash out ranked

[gleaming urchin]

jsut no one play ranked so they change it back

[modern vine]

Play world tour

[grim patrol]

I think you should be able to grab the orb of a dome shield and pull the shield to you

[keen bronze]

personally
I think this season has a lot of potential if it gets changed around, and honestly I think its really good already. But again, it just needs changes.
My main complaints are:

• The fact you made the season bundle skins only purchasable with real money and not in-game currency, that sucks, change it back please.
• The balancing of the spear and swords can be better, personally i think for spear, longer times between left clicking would be nice, add like a charge bar to the main weapon to indicate when thats ready or whatever, and for swords, do what you do with Heavy Shield where it has a certain amount of health before it stops working, medium left click is the anti-light, i know this because i bullied multiple lights WHILE TAZED.
• for once I think lights have actually become obselete in meta, buff literally everything except for sniper, recurve bow, cloak, and light dash.
• buff famas, that shit sucks
• and finally, please change the ranked mode. The only thing terminal about terminal attack is the cancer that it has caused being the ONLY ranked mode. Your best option to satisfy both sides of that argument is literally just have both available at once.

I really, really like this season, the map looks beautiful, the cosmetics look sick as hell
but please fix your game before I just go play something else, garden warfare 2, despite being almost a decade old now, is looking hella good.

[foggy ginkgo]

Its fun but almost nothing is positive rn TA is not what a majority of players want for ranked. World tour is even worse people lose nothing for leaving games so barely any full lobbys half the time. Its just going down hill edit: @hollow breach skill issue

[coral forum]

Ranked cashout please.

[steel cloak]

lmao is censored xD this tells everything

[hollow breach]

I am so glad they removed tourney from ranked. They got to rework it. It's so cheap and a poorly thought out gamemode. You can defend a cashout till the last 10 seconds and some random third party steals it after you just fought another team

[molten trail]

rpg dmg 140 🤡 charge dmg 130 🤡

[near parcel]

nice feedback, very constructive 👍

[buoyant olive]

[/Script/Engine.InputSettings]
bEnableMouseSmoothing=False is it default setting ?

[muted patrol]

Not a fan of Kyoto at all, and Terminal Attack being 13 rounds just feels loooooonnnggg.

[celest cairn]

the finals need a favourite button so we can cycle through our favourite skins, charms etc. I bought the battlepass and have multiple skins I want to put on which a favourite cycle would be excellent for!

[halcyon bone]

just got suspended because i was unable to load into a match 😭

[vapid pine]

Bring ranked Cashout back. TA ranked can exists and people who like to suffer can play it alone. We are not against it.

[long vector]

I feel like the sword gard attack could gard against other sword weapons

[wispy vault]

fastice#4495 full hacking ingame

[bronze widget]

yes

[peak pine]

I AGREEE

[bleak moss]

Skill issue. If you can’t hold the point for the last 10 seconds then you didn’t deserve to cashout in the first place. Regardless, it doesn’t take a full season to rework. Embark themselves changed cashout ranked during the middle of last season. And changing the ranked from cashout to TA was a mistake. If they really wanted to go this direction they should’ve made both as ranked options with the same ranked rewards and shared progression. But no, let’s get rid of ranked cashout.

[void scarab]

give dagger backstab headshots please..

[quick coyote]

why couldn't there have been the standard season starter pack and a separate more "premium" version for real money? It's just a tad annoying

[rapid stream]

Breach charge is still good

[last tusk]

IMO suspensions shouldn’t be put in place when the game is in such a poor state (lag wise)

[fierce verge]

So i had an idea at work today for the medium class. Idk if it would be better as a gadget or an ability but what if medium had a speed boost ability that also effected near by allies like the vanishing grenade on light. It would be a great bonus to recieve as light or heavy and would help be something unique to help medium fight people with their melee weapons. Not sure if this has already been suggested

[somber niche]

Qui est français et qui peut joué en classe avec moi ?

[sacred moon]

Dual blades need a massive buff. Closing in distance is difficult even with deflecting bullets. There should be no movement penalty while deflecting

[pure forum]

For me.. The only positive changes in season 3.. The map and terminal attack as ranked.. The new weapons changed the game too much.. Power shift isn't the same anymore. After 500h of finals.. I'm not happy...

[idle thistle]

https://tenor.com/view/reading-trump-gif-15601874

[quick coyote]

My game is freezing up like crazy like every few seconds

[amber lion]

a bit laggy

[real hinge]

Play Again button is the same as reporting button in console 😂

[sour rover]

thats okay im sure play again wont be used much longer

[cold bolt]

too early to say anything about balancing but here's my kneejerk reaction on playing against bow users so far

DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE

[eager raven]

Please add a glint and sound queue similar to the bow for the sword lunge :)

[formal bear]

well, i just loaded into a game where the game started, i could hear everything happening in the background like the countdown, name of teams and teammates running off, but all i could see is the loading screen.

[pliant spruce]

It’s all nonsense balancing! Melee weapons too strong, knives etc. you have destroyed ALL the balancing of the game. Sorry but absolutely need nerf and change !!!! You destroyed the heavy!!

[thorny parcel]

I legitamately like Terminal Attack as ranked. Fun way to play.

[elfin karma]

what a take lmaoo

[cyan crane]

Beautiful map but is it really meant to be that demanding specs wise?

[random palm]

Git gud

[celest ore]

bring back old cashout tournament as ranked to be ranked choice

[mellow moss]

Melee weapons are way too OP

[inland vine]

This is some good shit

[pine flower]

These people complain about getting third partied at the last second by a team desperate to win, but don’t remember how many times they’ve pulled that off and it felt sooo goood. The Finals is a sandbox game at it’s core. We need to let ourselves enjoy it and do the best you can and stop trying to structure the fun away with invasive-species modes like TA. Many other fun modes that could fit the game better.

[limber sedge]

the soundtrack is peak as always

[kindred dirge]

Server problem, cause me to get suspended for leaving the world tour mode.

[icy monolith]

i think glitch barrels should have a leaking type effect when they get damaged like all the other types of barrels in the game 🤷🏼 been meaning to put that in here since they got added 😅

[serene cypress]

lewis gun is unuseable

[wheat frigate]

RANK TA WILL DESTROY THIS GAME HOLY HELL. You thought having a bad teammate was cancer in Cashout. BOY O BOY imagine 2 to 3 of them in TA. BRING BACK RANKED CASHOUT. Shroud was playing and ALL of his chat was saying "Game is Trash" YOU ARE CATERING TO PEOPLE WHO DONT WANT NOR CARE ABOUT THIS GAME.................... World Tour is OUT AND IT IS EXACTLY BASIC CASH OUT LMAO NO EXCITING NEW CHANGES SMDH.

[graceful slate]

Spear right click should be removed and you should be able to throw the spear and winch should only pull enemies towards you like junkerqueen knife from overwatch while having a secondary function of destroying building by pulling parts of them off.!!!!

[cosmic ether]

Buff Winch Claw

[wanton owl]

i really don’t understand the hate for terminal, like your telling me you want a ranked mode where the game incentivised you to constantly third party or get third partied. i get that there is some level of game sense in making the right decisions but even at high level play (plat and above), most of the time people still win or lose because it spawned you near an already contested cashout. you cant have a ranked mode based on how the cookie crumbles. What really is fair is when you beat one team and you get rewarded for that instead of having to fight the whole server on a time limit to see who hot potatoes the cashbox. This mode is still in the game so go and play it if you love it that much but having it as a ranked option makes no sense. If you think this is a r6 clone hate to say that plat and diffuse have been around for longer than r6. What makes this game unique is the gameplay, movement, environment and abilities. If playing this game hinges on this one game mode being ranked then I think you need to do some re-evaluation on what makes this game good in the first place. (Also you wanna talk about slow gameplay, i cant count how many time i just sat there and got a free cashbox)

[topaz sundial]

Playing some more of the "new" TA and most of the changes are okay, but the "prep phase" needs removing as well as the new spawns imo. Slows everything down and if you're playing a set up without any equipment to set up, even if you're on the defending team you spend 20 seconds doing nothing. It's so entirely pointless. Move the spawns back to where they were (because with the prep phase, they're way too close), let people get straight into action and the gameplay becomes so much more fun. You can set up flanks, go wide as attackers before defenders can spot you, punish defenders for not setting up quickly by rushing a site at risk of getting mowed down if they have set up. Without that "prep phase" and closer spawns, the game mode is so much more fun.

[lunar iron]

I think the thing that Terminal Attack brings is that you feel more in direct control of the outcome based on your ability. While I dont think that is possible with the chaos that Cashout brings, if you were ranked just a little bit more by your own performance rather than the outcome of the team, that to me might fix ranked Cashout. So the losses where you are in no control of it wont feel as bad even if you played well.

[regal wind]

This 👆🏼

[latent surge]

i wish you could buy the starter pack with multibucks again

[vapid crystal]

Ayo the throwing knives are really too stronk

[molten trail]

rpg dmg 140 🤡 charge dmg 130 🤡

[tacit radish]

new map tanking ma fps 🥶

[hollow breach]

lol skill issue guy can't play terminal attack

[keen siren]

Are they ever going to fix the issue where actions glitch and you can't shoot? We just lost a round because I couldn't...

[vast hare]

What is wrong with ranked… embark why

[pliant lion]

Firstly I'll start with something positive: balancing seems very good this patch. Haven't been able to spot many problems with it apart from the fact that someone blocking bullets with the sword is basically unhittable as long as they look at you. For now it's not been fun to play against. Not a problem in a 1v1 but as soon as you introduce other teammates/teams it's a mess.

Now for the thing I actually strongly dislike, and honestly at first I wasn't too worried about TA becoming the new ranked mode, but I just played (and won, so I'm not salty about losing or anything) my first ranked TA match and I have to admit that this is not it.. Let's put it this way: I'm not looking forward to playing 104 more days of TA ranked before it's changed.

Main reasons for me:

• The pacing of TA just doesn't fit the fast paced nature of the game
• The pre-match timer is long and incredibly boring as an attacker
• A single round in general takes too long, especially if you happen to die in the first 30 seconds. Worst case scenario you're sitting there looking at someone else playing the game for like 3-4 (?) more minutes
• 5 man teams doesn't seem too bad until you're solo queueing, it's nearly impossible to keep a team together. The one match I played we were on 4v5 after the 3rd round

As for your argument about cashout not being able to be changed when it's locked into ranked; Can't we just retain "old cashout ranked" for this season and keep the world tour the more casual "experimental" version of cashout? Possibly keep TA ranked for the people who want to play Rainbow Six Finals: Valorant Offensive.

For now the only good thing about TA ranked is that you can't be third partied anymore, but honestly I'd rather get third partied by a bunch of semi-AFK lights in cashout than having to play as much TA ranked as I did last season's Ranked tournaments. I'm gonna keep playing TA ranked for a bit but I'm not too fond of the change right now.

[rancid holly]

10/10 trailer for this season and once again the music is 👌

[gritty umbra]

anybody else get the bug where you load in game but your stuck in the loading screen

[young smelt]

???

[bleak moss]

@hollow breach come back when you’ve gained some reading comprehension. With your chronically online ass

[fiery terrace]

New update is fire!!!! Hook is amazing, pls keep it

[distant vine]

the new glitch mine. please. remove it. that was a horrible change. what went through your heads when you thought, oh this is a good idea.

[tepid radish]

Only complaint with Terminal Attack is the sides need to switch every 3 rounds.

[keen pike]

Terminal attack is widly unbalanced

[plucky coyote]

so many complains about TA hoping they fix it i'm not playing ranked this season i think

[hollow badger]

RS - rizz score

[glass fjord]

no no, play to gold (cashout world tour) why not.... just, fuck TA

[feral mirage]

Now it finally does something

Also bring ranked back. It's missing. I only see Terminal Attack and a mode that lets me level up into low bronze where all sweats are in with me rn

[thick bramble]

Yeah I have the same question. It's very slow to get VRs right now without it

[quartz shell]

skill issue

[stark remnant]

Let's hope heavy FINALLY gets a real nerf in S3
Dealing so much damage with so much HP is just stupid

[drowsy storm]

make a new in game event

[upbeat ore]

Ranked TA is miserable. It isn't fun to lose, and it isn't even fun to win. The Finals is about fast-paced, chaotic clutch moments. If I want to play Valorant I will just play Valorant (I really DON'T want to)

[pure glen]

So far I've been having fun with season 3, but just in quickplay. I see what they're trying to do with World Tour, but I think they should have just made another ranked queue for TA. It feels off only having three ranks being bronze, silver, and gold for your "main"event, and then TA having a full ranked system. Hopefully they take a route like this in the future or at least give World Tour more ranks to push for.

[strange hinge]

Is the in-g delayed on purpose?

[celest cairn]

Terminal attack is the only search and destroy which takes 3 minutes to switch teams. Why Embark? The actual gamemode is passable but the waiting time is criminal

[next mortar]

8 hours deep in Terminal Attack. Even as a Top 500 player in cashout, I only have 1 victory so far. Why? My 5 stack doesnt play Light. It's so poorly balanced and paced. I just wanna play cashout all day and have TA as a break sometimes...

[junior sigil]

double swords feels very weak, they feel even worse than riot shield, and riot shield was never the meta. i understand that you guys dont want new weapons to break meta, but this a second season where out of 3 added weapons viable are like 0.5

[still crater]

The map is way too fucking tall. All I do in the games now is destroy the map. I don’t even care about winning because now the bow guys team up with the sniper guys and they just sit on top of tall buildings being a heavy player trying to run around play the objective, sit and deal with weapon is range combat and they run away region faster and have more weapons to shoot from far away at us

[solar oak]

bring back the old icons, im not supporting this game financially until ranked gets restored

[willow ice]

its a shit not a game

[novel lily]

either this guy is cheating or SBMM is the most useless thing in the world, observe

[latent wharf]

Couldn’t agree more, light is way too overpowered in TA, snipers and an LH1 the does 50 damage and has no recoil? The best team comp is 5 lights with sniper or LH1, which isn’t fun to play or to play against. I’m for one, gonna get to diamond and dip for ranked, I have so much fun with world tour that forcing myself to grind all season for the ruby akm will not be worth hours wasted not having fun

[bold scroll]

My feedback thus far:
Reporting/Blocking
If I block and report someone for verbal abuse, I should not be matched with them again on the exact same team in the following game. I shouldn't have to deal with a teammate spamming and throwing because they are still tilted from last game, and I shouldn't have to take to competitive hit either with the penalty. There are enough people in playing in a lobby for you to not be matched with an individual who you had just blocked and reported. Secondly, the block system actually does nothing. It's purely cosmetic. It feels like crap 👍🏻

Terminal Attack
The prep phase feels too long and draws out the match. I often feel myself standing around waiting for at least 10-15 seconds or so after I had already "set up" the point I planned to defend. As others have stated, I also feel the spawn points are much too close. With the changes made to the mode while transitioning it to become the primary ranked mode, I find this a lot less enjoyable than the terminal attack that was available as a limited time game mode. Too clunky and slow now for the fast paced gameplay of The Finals.

World Tour
While I would have preferred this game mode to stay as the primary ranked mode, but the change isn't horrible. I've had some poor matchmaking, but outside of that I do enjoy the concept of world tour along with the rewards that come with it. I hope to provide some more feedback once I've gotten some more time in the game mode.

Balancing
Heavys just feel extremely powerful in this current state, so powerful I feel that its already a loss in world tour if your team chooses to not take at least one heavy into the fight. Too much high-damage, high reward things available to a class that has so much HP. I guess the tradeoff is a lack of movement, but paired with a medium who has all movement skills and a heal beam a heavy can become an unstoppable force to be reckoned with.
The bow feels ok, but I think it should reward the player more for headshots since the arrows have travel time.
The throwing knives... God, please nerf them. Please.

[wooden summit]

Get gud

[rigid oxide]

absolutely loving the new season structure 🌹

[mossy cape]

damn so like theres this bug where they removed cashout from ranked and made terminal attack ranked. weird hope they fix this bug soon 🙂

[unreal fossil]

It was never used before. Now it becomes very much usable. The thing dies from one hit...

Suggestions for the next update:

• please add more contestant slots as we now have a lot of cosmetic options to choose from, I'd like to create more characters
• I like the new player card but the resolution is very low 😩 It would be nice if it looked like the way characters appear in the main menu

[winged cargo]

Anyone who's intentionally leaving terminal attack matches to protest it, fuck you. Honestly you are infinitely worse and cause more harm to this game than terminal attack ever could

[late orchid]

Disappointed with the new ranked mode. Terminal Attack just doesn't have the essence of fun that the game was designed for, and world tour doesn't really feel like a ranked mode. It would be good if we have two ranked modes, see who plays what the most and then cull the other. I personally played the previous cashout ranked mode to death, but I'm already bored with Terminal attack.
Loving the new additions to loadouts though.

[gray delta]

its never been that smooth for me but in season 1 i was able to max out every quality setting and get around 145-160 fps now with this last update its 130 stable on lowest so really bad optimisation i guess :/

[finite void]

I just redownloaded and i don't have any of the things i earned in the beta like a year ago.. its like my account just vanished and i was forced to make a new one

[zenith crag]

Getting stuck in loading screen

[olive shell]

TERMINAL ATTACK IS SO GOD DAMN BORING

[storm siren]

Rainbow Six Finals: Valorant Offensive.

[mild gull]

like permanent rewards or like things you bought with VRs and comestics and whatever?
answer in another channel ur prob on cooldown

[molten trail]

new map is my fav map

also, rpg dmg 140 🤡 charge dmg 130 🤡 😛

[celest anchor]

Bow is way too oppressive fr fr

[twilit dove]

bro i feel like the double katana is way too op if i have a gun against the double katana then i am cooked

[void scarab]

the water of kyoto slows you down so much, my heavy almost started to walk backwards
maybe a slight nerf to the water to make a heavy a tiny bit quicker?

[proven ibex]

FFS make newbies play some quickcash before playing world tour. You guys removed SSMB and now we have to play with random noobs.. it's really frustrating

[tough merlin]

Just walk away

[distant vine]

dont foregt. that if that dual sword has a pocket healer. he cant die

[fickle tree]

It's the tenth time I've been playing TA and an opposing player or one from my own team leaves in the middle of the match and the match ends. This is RIDICULOUS.
Not to mention that regardless of whether the player who left is from your team or the opponent, the end of the match counts as a defeat. They ruined the TA

[umbral pebble]

Doesn't count wins

[dapper flower]

it breaks my heart i can't stick people with the thermal bore.

[small geyser]

We want cash out ranked back or why can’t we have separate ranks for the two game modes

[cold bolt]

ngl bow is basically where post-buff throwing knives were right now

[fast agate]

Spot on, couldnt agree more. This game was unique being fast paced and having someting like TA just slowed the game down and made it less fun.

Played this game for hours everyday, and it’s the first time I’m not excited to load up the game and play ranked again.

[idle geyser]

Whatever dev thought LH1 needed a buff should be fired.

[violet wing]

same feeling

[last tusk]

Anyone else finding the game to take ages to load up and crash after tryna load into a game

[tulip juniper]

Trying to play solo ranked is hell now with TA. Now have to rely on 4 randoms instead of 2 for my rank. Gonna get diamond then never touch TA again

[delicate yoke]

GIVE US OUR FROG ONESIE!!!

[charred geyser]

Why nerf the taser if your just going to give the heavy one.
The finals is a movement shooter, removing the movement makes the game worst.

The taser was bearable, as the light has low enough HP to counter it.
Giving the heavy one, with stun might I add was a bad choice.
The heavy has way to much HP for anyone to counter it, that plus the abundance of close weapons the heavy now has (Flamethrower, sledge, spear, any shotgun)
It's not fun to fight against in the slightest, the only way to counter the heavy grabbing you is by grabbing them first.

[frank magnet]

this is NOT THE SAME

[teal minnow]

It is good ,just get to a distance and strafe so the bullets won't hurt you

[woven rivet]

Nerf knives, it's stupid rn

[sharp jasper]

They're ass

[nova umbra]

Faxx

[tepid radish]

Let us surrender if a teammate leave. Please

[willow leaf]

First tournament game and both of my teammates get 0 kills. I’m done. Embark failed. This sucks

[rough imp]

Kyoto too much foliage

[grave sierra]

brother, the throwing knives are still busted, you cant give it more damage and also faster firerate on a weapon that has infinite ammo, itll just wear you down eventually, or insta melt you if you dont notice, faster than the m11 and the other smg in actual gameplay.
also i feel like the light pistol already has so much ammo for a weapon with a one second reload.

[flat gate]

Ahh I love this game, used to have weird crashing before where it would disconnect my mouse and stuff, seems to be fixed now. But instead now I'm getting kicked for disallowed tools even though my setup is exactly the same except for a new mouse. I love how buggy this game is (:

[round matrix]

just finished first game of the season as a light. got winched as many times as i died. make light weaker and heavy stronger was a great idea. season 2 heavy wasnt strong enough huh?

[feral mirage]

Don't make new players play Terminal Attack

[steep sigil]

giving the defense a 20 sec head start in TA was unnecessary after the decision to force the offense to interact with the terminal to plant the key. the head start seemed necessary for the old “throw the key at the terminal” action

[novel lily]

Let us Be able to toggle whether or not we want to be revived, its annoying when im trying to change my loadout and i get respawned without it

[wicked pine]

this season so far is ass and i feel like a lot of people will leave considering the 'balance' changes and the fact that ranked was changed to TA

[elder umbra]

i think TA rank feel much better for real , at first i feel like useless mode for rank for real ngl, but embark just did right mode for rank FOR REAL

[quick coyote]

https://tenor.com/view/ryan-gosling-critics-choice-awards-side-eye-confused-clapping-gif-14741917063569043913

[clever haven]

My circuit challenges reset. I had all finished. Now there are some that aren't finished. Is it going to be fixed?

[heady ibex]

they should add a reconnect option after u get kicked for being idle

[pliant lion]

Yeah just tried a second ranked TA match (which took at least half an hour to 45 minutes btw) and it truly saddens me to say that this gamemode as ranked makes the game significantly worse. These matches just aren't as thrilling as cashout matches. Worst thing is I'm about 1 to 1,5 hours into ranked and I'm only at 2 out of 8 (!) placement matches... Already got matched against 4 of the top 146 players (only one without a rank) and we still won the match, again with 3 teammates, but yet no rank for me.

Honestly I try to focus on the positives with every update but changing ranked over to Terminal Attack is a big miss in my opinion. At this point I'm barely enjoying the game anymore.

[urban marsh]

Same like for the first time i didn’t had any fun in the game when comes rank, why? Simple a 5 full light with invis and lh1 , or a full heavy team is BALANCED for rank…. I m a medium main and rn can t say i have fun, got killed by heavy been chain and hammered in the head, at least chashout you had a chance to fight back rn rank is just all about stay invis and just snipe, or chain and rpg or hammer people… is so sad to see were this game end up…. The good part in all this is the new map is soo beautiful is damn fun , the mew weapons and same like those in season 2 … except the bow the other two are average the duble catana been a weak version of the shild. I really hope they will make some changes

[pseudo surge]

Major lag issues rn I checked everything on my side as an IT specialist

[shell steppe]

I feel like TA ranked is really better than before. It took a while to get used to it, but i can deal with it for 3 monts until cashout returns in a better version.

[feral shell]

If TA is meant to be a competitive mode it makes no sense to have gadgets and abilities rewarding no skill like mines, turrets, RPG, and charge and slam for example.

[brittle harness]

Great battle pass, map, new weapons... But hey terminal attack in ranked is just NONONONONO. I skip this season

[vast hearth]

Honestly, wtf even if The Finals now? It's like it has an identity crisis. It's an FPS where Melee is the OP Flavour of the month. The key mode that make it The Finals isn't even the Ranked more anymore. There's World Tour where people are just running around for the kills because there's absolutely ZERO risk. Ranked is a mode that a lot of the community don't like. If I wanted S&D mode I'd play CS2 or Valorant, or one of the many other games out there that try to do the same thing. I was happy to see World Tour after the announcement but it's just absolutely ruined by the lack of risk

[broken raptor]

servers down?

[versed cloud]

Buff FCAR it's just a sub par akm

[timber sage]

...reaper OW?

[old grove]

This game would’ve never even made it this far had it not been for the unique cash out game mode. Cash out is the finals identity, without it it’s just another copy paste shooter

[dreamy charm]

It’s a shame about Cashout not being ranked anymore. They struck Gold with that, it was unique/different than anything else now it’s just another SnD shooter with a reskin

[opaque epoch]

World tour is boring for comp players, give us back ranked cashout

[winged cargo]

the taser and winch claw are not the same thing for any of the idiots spamming that 💀

[fierce egret]

It is incredibly difficult to finish a game in unranked TA. I have started around ~5 games of unranked TA to test the waters and not once has one gone through without a player leaving and the whole match stopping with that ugly banner

[candid kettle]

Please keep Terminal Attack as the ranked mode. Complainers are louder than the ones who really enjoy TA. More people perfer TA!

[grizzled drum]

FACTS

[coral forum]

"The Terminal"

[cold forum]

TA blows

[lament kelp]

As someone who has no interest in Ranked, I'm really enjoying the world tour. Its something that I can progress in faster by playing well, but if things go badly, its no loss other than the time spent. And I like that they are pushing it as the main casual game mode. Keen to see where the season goes from here

[quick coyote]

Bro it's day one and everyone is saying this game is heading to rock bottom like bro...it's day one

[proper barn]

This rank system unfortunately needs regional leaderboards to operate. Lower population regions such as OCE and Asia will have slower times climbing the leaderboards as there is less ranked people in those regions.

[junior temple]

I'm noticing more framedrops on PS5. Nothing unplayable but it's noticeable sometimes

[untold hazel]

same whit me

[cosmic narwhal]

There's a heavy combo with the claw that kills you with no counter play to it other then "stay of the range of the claw" the combo does up to like 300 damage or more.

[proper crescent]

Winch into hammer slam into rpg or smth idk

[ionic rampart]

yeah after day one- the day where everyone tries out the new changes to see if they like them.
overwhelmingly it seems the consensus is that the spotlight put on TA is very much disliked, and that winch is an "anti-fun" ability.
lots of players are going to play this game less because of these changes- myself included

[light sierra]

Why add 2-3 new AK skins in battlepass but no new skin for Sniper, LH1 or Revolver. Def not buying it, or anything else since I hate the direction this games is going. Copying OW features, removing the main ranked mode, still poor performance for a competetive, fast paced game. New map also plays poorly :/ sad to see

[paper hare]

Bring back casual tournamant please

[trim lagoon]

add at least an optional crosshair to the bow before i just add one to my monitor with sharpie pls

[long oxide]

WHat the acuall hell is this why is terminal attack half of my screen during game select, y is this game becoming csgo, bring back 3v3v3v3 for quick cash, also bring back tourny in general

[tribal bramble]

Teminal attack is either getting sniped and not being able to heal, running into a wall of turrets or waiting so that you can finally exit this horrible mode with a 0-7. I genuinly don't understand if even a single person on this planet is having any fun with this. I am clearly not having any and I am not even gonna bother doing the placement matches I have left.

[candid belfry]

Hey Devs any chance you could sort the private match quick cash we try to do 2 v 2 v 2 and end in a 4 v 2 game

[sharp willow]

who thought terminal was a good ranked alternative

[grave mango]

1. Fix Throwing Knives
2. Fix Evasive Dodge (This ability damn near makes the game unplayable with the light spam)

[rugged path]

XBOX

After a match, “Y” is used to play again and also used to report a player. It only lets you report a player.

[jade solstice]

Game Design-wise, how could you come with such a decision? I would never play ranked TA. Why ? Have you heard games like CS2 maybe? If I want that type of experience, I would play that game. game design rule : you can add stuff but NEVER WHATSOEVER remove a CORE FEATURE to your players. I really don't understand at all how you guys could come up with that decision, you're litterally killing your own fanbase.

[bitter chasm]

FIx grenade launcher for medium and shotgun for lights, you said in the dev notes let's try to not make it a pain in the ass for light, instead it just one shots you

[gleaming tulip]

Same on PS5, fking annoying and so dumb

[oblique valve]

Making TA the only ranked mode was a terrible decision and I can only wonder at what was going through the minds of the devs to ruin their own game by making it into a knockoff of literally every other 5v5 on the market.

[full ledge]

me and a ton of other people playing on steam crash every 5-20 minutes due to UE5 acting up. PLEASE fix this

[jolly blaze]

AGREED i want the ruby skin but hell no am i grinding TA

[copper umbra]

Never mind TA, where's ranked Power shift at

[pastel ravine]

I think its lame If you get to ruby on ranked and not get the rewards at the end of the season

[mint kiln]

so for some reason my rookie career circuit is already completed and i JUST logged on for season 3. im so confused as to how that happened.

[thick owl]

We don't like the main ranked mode turning from Cashout into TA. Fuck TA.

[lavish jetty]

hear me out, we add a grappling hook skin but it's just a sticky hand

[keen siren]

Terminal attack for ranked just turned into another mode where everyone snipes with light. Dumbest game mode ever. Get that out of the game...

[violet wing]

right now the game is garbage, and I'm one of the most positive dude you'll find in here. TA is horrible, bugs galore once again, spear and bow are ridiculously overpowered

[cyan fern]

Ngl kinda liking world tour so far

[clear crystal]

We need way more Loadout slots also give us our own custom outfit slots we can save our own personalised outfits to.

[tulip violet]

terminal attack ranked stinks. thumbs down.

[rocky perch]

please for the love of god, do not take 3 months to add glitch barrel to the Data Reshaper pool

[brazen forum]

Terminal attack is amazing, find a team to play

[humble tinsel]

why the change in ranked from multiple teams to just two?

[brittle obsidian]

Defib should be made a special for terminal attack. 1 half hp revive versus infinite turret chip damage is a worthy trade off.

[left bluff]

For Terminal Attack having just the setup time or the need to interact with the key, would've been enough to balance I think. Not both at same time. Now it just makes it more favored for defense. Also sides should switch a little more frequently.

[upper citrus]

It is a good step in the right direction to make ranked not dogshit

[wintry trout]

well the bow is fun
the dual blades are busted
the spear is busted
and most of the weapon balance changes are in the opposite direction of what makes sense
all in all, great job, another lousy season on the way

[jovial sonnet]

they should revert the previous invis changes ngl invis bomb is completely useless

[next sleet]

I wasted 50min straight by going into a 5v5 then having someone disconnect 5min in. This is the worst feature ever for a casual game. Just have a vote kick system for afk players and be done with it.

[sage sonnet]

bro sucks at the game. hard stuck in broze l;ol

[vague herald]

nah this game sucks

[real saffron]

This update is a massive L to the finals , the worlds greatest game show has become the worlds most boring / toxic game show ranked is not worth playing i have tried numerous games and constantly team mates troll damaging you with throwables so you lose your health, game play is slower which is not why people played the finals , setup time is pointless , and way to many rounds per match. The dissconnect / surrender system becuase of a crash / afk also is complete bs and a waste of time.

only credit is the bow is fun.. and the new map is nice

[mystic harbor]

whos idea was it to replace cashout with terminal attack?!?! im sorry but that was a terrible choice and i hope they revert it

[glass fjord]

Played 6 rounds of TA... connection failed and kicked on swap. 10 minute ban. Good lord fuck TA, I can't do this for 3 whole months.

@autumn hearth i can handle one reconnect worth of downtime. i have to sit for like 2 minutes between each round, then wait for the swap, and a crash now. rarely do i get disconnected in cashout and i can usually just load back in

[gray meadow]

There is still cash out it is just in the world tour

[lavish shard]

Bug bug bug meta bow melee worst season 🤮

[autumn hearth]

it does the same on cashout tbf

[leaden smelt]

I keep getting disconnected from World Tour then getting a penalty for it

[steel cloak]

gj bro u smart

[quick coyote]

dunno, im having fun
TA as ranked sucks tho

[sturdy inlet]

wheres the finals chat gone

[barren sail]

Same, just got kicked loading into final match lol

[young smelt]

💀 its fixed now top 400 :), officialy a ruby player

[crisp mauve]

Garbage season

[tender gorge]

do you like sandwiches?

[graceful crow]

2 ranked matches, in both blatant cheaters joy

[pseudo breach]

Servers fucked again?

[next mortar]

yeah I am not playing any more Ranked Terminal Attack the rest of the entire season. I had fun for about 1 game then it ended. Placement matches were a nightmare. I will patiently wait for cashout to return. It was a good attempt Embark, but it's just not a compatible mode. Let people play it for fun but dont force ALL new players to try it. It's going to scare them all away. And dont force all ranked players to play it. It scares them away as well. This one decision is going to cost Embark such a massive chunk of players. Thank you for your time. Love y'all

[dusty igloo]

TA ranked is just not fun, the game was not designed around TA, the games are so long for such little gain. Cashout was perfect, just needed minor tweaks to be perfect but then you threw it away. Solo queue was tolerable in cashout but in TA solo queue is disgusting, I absolutely hate it.

[hasty grove]

I mean guys come on you wanna add ta to ranked fine add it. do whatever you want but dont forget that there is lots of people playing the finals because its different than other games we dont want another game we just want this unique final cashout experience. Are you gonna make the melee weapons meta fine do it. But please dont touch the cashout ranked.

[rich kayak]

Anybody else plays World TOur, but every time you reach the final round, the whole server crashes. EVERY. SINGLE. TIME

[leaden wagon]

the new soundtrack is bumping. y'all never fail there

[glad vapor]

Yeah it happened to me a couple times

[upbeat ore]

ranked TA sucks shit

[stoic cosmos]

Feels like Embark wanted to try giving TA a real shot in Season 3 but not removing Cashout completely to avoid outrage, so they kept "Cashout" low key up to gold and made TA ranked up to Ruby so TA will be more attractive so just in case TA fails, they "still have the core game" on board as an excuse for not removing it completely. But I'm most certain that if TA was a mode that would have turn out to be awesome and triples the player base, they would get rid of Cashout and forget it ever existed, and most certinally so would you.

After giving TA a proper chance for 5 games (Winning 4/5 full premade team), I literally hated every match more than the previous one and same goes for the rest of the crew, they all stopped ranked at this point.

Sorry Embark, that's an L for me.
I give it four weeks before they reverse this.

[subtle bolt]

TA broken we just won a game logged out and didn’t get the win

[grave cloak]

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[round matrix]

so power shift is just heavy central now?? cool more season 3 fun. starting to regret giving season 3 a try lmfao

[rough igloo]

This update is dope, but y'all gotta remove TA as ranked. World Tour is really fun, though.

[formal bear]

why is the phrase LMAO counted as a profanity? im pretty sure its not haha

[modest pawn]

TA is good, it is a completely different way of playing the game. But it is just not the finals that we learned. This cashout is completely unique to finals and finals only, so it gave the game its awesome identity of using both aim and strategy skills, high apm gameplay, not feeling repetetive at all etc. Altho TA is maybe easier for the beginners or some players coming from Valorant or CS, it is not the gametype that is meant to be THE competitive play in finals. So stop crying like 5 year old pepega kids and saying shit like "this sucks oh fix it ah fuck TA", give some productive feedback so it is actually worth their time reading your shit

[lunar iron]

Honestly I feel like they should make TA kind of like beginner Ranked and then World Tour advanced/professional Ranked. Where you can go up and down ranks in World Tour. Maybe even you cant do World Tour until you reach a certain rank in TA or have reached maybe Gold or Platinum in the previous season. Make World Tour where all the best players live with good rewards for them

[regal mirage]

I am not enjoying season 3. Too many winches, melees, throwing knives

[tender verge]

people cashout ranked is still there what are you talking about

[void scarab]

is the flamethrower still good for anything?
lights are too quick (dash aka distance) / TTK is quick AF
medium dual blades kill me before i can kill them and AKM/FCAR are too powerful + range
heavies are heavies and i can only kill them if they have flamethrower as well

I feel it needs a bit of a buff in terms of either applying damage or a tad more damage in general..
even though it's a pure flame, it's not cooking at the moment

[short owl]

i love getting penalized when i dont have teammates in ranked and i get penalized for leaving genius play

[civic wing]

Too many picky complaints there is a way to everything update is solid

[versed cloud]

Buff FCAR it's just a sub par AKM literally not worth picking in competitive

[tribal bloom]

BRO THIS AFK PEOPLE CANCELLATION THING SUCKS

[warped matrix]

Can u guys bring the 3 v 3 v 3 back this new ranked mode is useless the game is over if u dont bring it back

[quick coyote]

Can we have the option of changing crowd/ambient audio levels like we do commentator/dialog, please?

[dreamy crow]

I am super hyped for This Season, but it’s just not fun anymore, i played 20 rounds of Tournaments today and i always get Queued with the worst people out there. Just finished my 21 Match with 8 Kills whilst my Team cant Even get 3… man

[delicate yoke]

Everyone needs to stop complaining and take a step back for a second. By attacking the devs for every change they make, we're killing the game from the inside. This is their game; their vision. They have a right to decide what they want that game to be, even if many, many people (even me at times) disagree.

[fast agate]

Sure they can decide, but they’ll also have to accept that this game will most likely die with their decision.

Sure a software product can decide what to so, but GL selling it if noone wants it.

I got a friend to play it, he said it’s amzing that this team can deliver such beautifull maps but can make a competitive gamemode this bad.

[compact sleet]

TA wouldn’t be bad if they didn’t add all those dumb/lame rules with no heals or rez or regen…. Come on now what the hell were yall thinking with no cooldowns?

[quick coyote]

Same

[latent wharf]

I hope embark listens to the people who don’t enjoy TA rather than the very small minority that do. People play this game for the cash out game mode, something unique for once rather than a standard 5v5 mode. I really hope we don’t have to play the whole 100+ day season with ranked TA.

I can see how the game mode could be “more competitive” but my goodness. Let’s get the facts straight, the game mode is slightly fun at best and mind numbingly boring at worst, the balance is completely off (5 lights is literally the best team comp) and it isn’t what THE FINALS is at its core. We listened, we trusted, we tried, and it seems like no one likes ranked TA.

I really, really want the ruby AKM skin (I’m and akm main) but it is not worth my enjoyment or energy to grind TA for the whole season when I would have 10000x more fun playing world tour.

Even when Cashout was ranked, and technically wasn’t “as competitive” as TA. I still had way more fun, even when there was a stupid last second steal, or an unbalanced HHM team. What made Cashout great wasn’t the times you easily got a Cashout, or won a tournament without even trying. It was getting those last second steaIs and clutching a 1v3 when your in last place.

I really hope you know what your doing Embark, despite all of your failings with balance, random changes, and general ignorance of what is balanced and what the players want, I really do believe you have the ability and motivation to make this game great, you listen to feedback, make changes, they just always seem in the wrong direction. I want this game to succeed. It’s the most fun I’ve ever had playing any game, please, don’t let it die.

[proud thistle]

v

[coarse kestrel]

they have ranked incell

[celest tree]

this

[final jacinth]

The game crashes every match :(

[sick pier]

Deadass it wouldn’t be as bad in that case

[rough imp]

is kyoto the only ranked map??? 5 times in a row

[trim lagoon]

please add a crosshair to the bow

[pallid sierra]

omg the dual blades NEED a speed buff if theyre gonna be on medium!

[analog bear]

Its not but they def need to change the rotation, too much Kyoto
Constant over and over Kyoto, if theres something I dislike about TA rn its fucking Kyoto

[iron depot]

remove sniper from TA or give back full regen choose one

[hazy jewel]

Seriously?? Removed gadget swap for sword? Way to completely lower the skill ceiling on an already niche weapon. I have lost all hope for this game.

[dreamy charm]

TA is such a strange option to make as The Ranked Mode, limits so much gameplay. Is Hold The Platform gonna be next seasons ranked mode? Cashout is what made this game different. Why give it up to be just another re-texture of a SnD shooter
Let the game lean on its differences to anything else on the market

[oblique valve]

After you guys are done crashing and burning the game please make a documentary of some kind discussing your thought process and decision making. This case study is something that could be studied for years about how to run a genuinely unique game into the ground.

Both on release when you changed everything everyone loved about the beta up until right now, where you completely shift what made this game unique into a knockoff of every other 5v5 on the market.

Unironically though I do find it incredible, I don't think I could mess a blooming game up this hard if I tried.

[cinder ridge]

first time using the lh1 in months. surely this nerfbuff was an accident

[sacred glacier]

bring back normal ranked because ranked used to be fun and also get rewards, but now im only playing ta for the awards and not for the experience 2/10

[short canopy]

Nah they just gonna blame the player base for being toxic and unaccepting. Im honestly shocked they went for a blatant attempt at the cs clone and played it off as if its benefitting us

[wet dew]

At least glitch trap is a bit better

[light sierra]

The new heavy ability is so stupid, finally got me to uninstall. Idk if the devs even have clue what they are doing.

[red hare]

Well it was fun while it lastet TA is the most slow boring and campy game ever

[pliant lion]

I do kind of agree with this, but to put it bluntly I think your comment lacks some nuance.
Now that the FCAR has received a significant damage nerf it could easily have (a part of) its recoil nerf reverted. That would make it a viable alternative to the AKM with which you'd need to make your shots count. Right now the AKM just feels better; more magazine capacity, recoil is arguably easier to control and the damage reduction compared to the FCAR is barely noticeable, to me the AKM even feels better at range.

[pulsar aspen]

make skibidi toilet skin🙏❤️❤️

[wanton owl]

i love how peole can admit that cash out is fundamentally trash and not competitive yet still glaze it. I honestly don't understand how you can get a last second cashout (probably bc u just spawned at the right time) and call that fun. Whenever i win this way it feels scummy and random. doesn't feel like i actually did anything bc the outcome wasn't based on my teams skill.(obvi skill does play a roll in eliminating teams and grabbing cashout but not as much as right place right time).

[peak pine]

Change the finals name to Call of Duty please.

[little pawn]

Totally agree I played late season one and all season two totaled at 530 hours, not gonna touch it again until they reverse this awful decision.

[snow nymph]

I love THE FINALS. One of the things I keep seeing is that the ranked gamemode needs some love. Here is my proposal for an overhauled Terminal Attack. Let's have a healthy discourse instead of just bashing something for not being EXACTLY perfect according to subjective experience.

Bring back Tournament Style. I prefer this because of the increased variety in combat interactions. Each round played so differently because of the different teams present. It also highlights the dynamic gameplay that makes THE FINALS unique.

Slightly increase passive health regen. Grant team wide revive tokens through eliminations. Keep TKO team eliminations and no self-respawn. This rewards playing tactically and allows skilled teams to recover from a bad push or being swept away in a chaotic 3rd party.

The terminal key starts in the terminal, hear me out. At the start of a round, the terminal is neutral. A team claims the terminal to work on their decryption. Each team's decryption progress is independent. The win conditions of a round are either to complete the decryption, OR to eliminate all other teams.
There is a third "Qualifying Condition" given to the team with the second highest score. A team's score is based in money like other modes. This score will passively increase while a team has an active decryption. They can also score points through eliminations.

Instead of stopping a decryption, teams either steal the terminal and begin their own decryption, or enough damage is caused to the terminal itself that the decryption key is ejected and must be reinserted. Doing this causes the active decryption at the time to become corrupted and lose some progress.

[dim gyro]

Might as well repeat this,

[humble tinsel]

played ranked exclusively in this game for months after release and really fell in love due to it being different and unique and very competitive. got driven away due to terrible balance changes early on in season 2. came back today just to see cashout has been removed from ranked? will probably be peacing out again. just a terrible idea. your game needed better balancing not a shift in the game mode for ranked

[vocal bloom]

I often find that when trying to climb some stairs in the new map, the character goes for a clamber which can be annoying as it cancels your reload and slows you down.

[jovial compass]

embark really has peak balancing fr fr its crazy how they just love to nerf light or make killing lights easier the only good light weapon is knives and its somehow noskill now
-health regen faster kinda nice until u realize ur gonna die way before you can regen anyway
-goo gun now stops dashing? very crazy how the gun they can simply hit you once with now means its completely over for you because the ttk on every heavy weapon is instant for lights
-who tf decided it would be smart to give heavy a new specialization that lets them bring someone close where theres 0 chance they make it out alive even tho they nerfed still crazy and light/medium gets no new specialization from it
-breach charge ammo is cool, but then the very smart devs decide to DECREASE THE DAMAGE FROM 200 TO 80 and increase the cooldown. it was already only viable with the melee tech now its completely useless (removing another light tool = great update thanks embark)
-gas grenade radius completely unneccessary why make the game more cancerous
-goo wall size increase for no reason??? but it disables light movement so they die to a GOO GRENADE thanks embark!!!
-stun gun buff just makes sense idk why they changed it previously but its still bad cuz they can ads and just shoot you with op weapons!
-93r buff yay!!! but the rpms nerfed still unviable!!!!
-now the most atrocious buff of them all! CL-40 IS THE WILDEST BUFF EVER seriously whoever decided "lets make grenade launcher shoot faster and not do any self damage" needs to get their head checked okok so you nerfed damage but buff the rpm then make an animation slightly faster but why would you make it do 0.75 self damage when it already basically did 0 embark really hates lights/melees/close range clearly a medium shouldnt be able to aim at their feet and shoot grenades, kill you, and take barely any damage themselves when they used 0 skill worst buff ive ever seen
-famas gets a buff with 0 downsides (its not a light weapon so they can full buff it)
-slug shotgun buff cuz heavy needs more good weapons clearly
-OMG A HEAVY NERF???????? lewis gun nerfed mostly! rare embark balancing moment!
-lh1 gets a buff but since its a light weapon they need to nerf the rpm so its not "broken" (even tho lights already underpowered)
-m60 gets same nerf as lewis gun yay
-light shotgun gets a buff but you guessed it its also a nerf! increased damage cool but then you nerf the range even tho the range already sucked and decrease the fire rate for some reason
-v9s 1 damage buff basically does nothing tho
-ig carriable nerfs are kinda good they make the game less cluttered with gas and goo
-terminal attack changes kinda interesting but making ranked terminal attack is kinda silly cuz theres gonna be teams with like 4 heavies
-new weapons/specs/gadgets: dual blades idk yet, bow seems pretty good!, spear idk either, heavy gets funny grab thing (new nuke???? embark loves giving heavy free kills!), thermal bore seems kinda good havent used a lot
-then we get to embarks favorite activity: making light even less viable! embark removes emote canceling (and gadget swap i think) so now swords ttk is back to being horrific, it does not recieve any sort of buff that would make it more viable after removing the only good part about it, and light loses yet another part of its kit!
thanks for great update devs!!!! (please never try to balance a game again)

[fringe shard]

FUCK TA

[nimble anvil]

why did data reshaper get changed to not affect Dome Shield/Mesh Shield? that was like its best reason for usage... im useless with dual swords against heavy sledge. esp now data reshaper doesnt even work

[violet wing]

I absolutely suck at anything but heavy, and here I am shredding people with bow and dual blade like I'm a god on steroids. They are overpowered

[cerulean mason]

No throwing knife nerf?

[strange inlet]

I was thinking, recruit a friend program / limited time rewards ?

[mellow bridge]

are these people being penalized for leaving these ranked games?

[keen skiff]

real

[modest root]

There should be an emote where you can like kiss your teammates in the mouth or something

[upper citrus]

This message fucking reeks of entitlement and snob. They literally said they are taking ranked tournament away for a single season in order to work on it and make it actually enjoyable. No one wants to play 3rd party simulator.

[real crow]

yo just wanted to say that the dog pet is absolutely fire and i hope we see more breeds in the future

[echo spire]

for real

[wind moat]

TA as ranked is such a let down! will not be playing this game anymore until the revert ranked to cashout..

[vocal rampart]

The in-game video for the Glitch Mine needs updating...

[echo viper]

winch claw was a fucking mistake
just as a whole
please do something about it

[marsh halo]

Whole team crashed in ranked, woop

And stats got reset...wow

Big yikes

[silver charm]

Terminal attack sucks😭

[molten trail]

rpg 140 dmg 🤡 charge 130 dmg 🤡 medium turret aimbots u 0 skill 🤡

[prime wing]

the claw is so fun im really glad they added roadhog to the game! Also IMAGINE my silly self thinking the cl40 wouldnt take 400 hits to break a wall on the new map... they're only made of paper after all.

[junior sigil]

ok, now time for review of s3 so far. first of all i need to state that i have played the game for 400+ hours, started playing at the beggining of season one and played almost every day since then. i have played s3 for 8-9 hours, i am currently placed 233 in world tour playing solo. back to the review. i feel bad for the game, i dont see any progress, every season the only thing that changes is 3 new weapons that you see first few weeks while everyone testing them and never see any of the added weapons after. and new map. dual katanas are just bad, they are worse than riot shield in every way and i played with riot shield, i have lvl4 riot shield. and riot shield never was a meta in the first place. why? because it is still melee... spear feals not stronger maybe weaker then hammer, and oh wow, sledge hammer was never meta too. why? because it is still melee, who whould have guessed. and rmb of the spear feels super junky i cant understand when why and why not it hit someone. i cant say anything about bow rn because i played light the least (i still have achievement for 150 wins with it, but i played medium and heavy way more) and i didnt play with bow as much for me it felt inconsistant to use it in any serious play. claw just unfun to whoever gets pulled by it. and there is nothing you can do about it. thermal bore is cool, nothing bad i have to say about it. world tour feels like it didnt decide whether or not it casual or competitive gamemode playing solo you unlikely to get teammates that play some serious builds, and i am all for it, but whe we play some off meta fun builds whe we get to las round we just getting fucked by full stack meta comps. an playing 10 mins with kd 0.15 and 4 kills for the whole team is not very fun or entertaining experience. lobbies feel really sweaty for a fun casual experience. to be honest lobbies feel like plat3 to diamond4 lobbies from season 2. it somewhat ruins casual fun experience. TA is still feels forced to the game. sad

[gritty grove]

i hope they change it now, i mean ranked TA is wild lol

[abstract fog]

The bow and arrow is way too overpowered and should get a nerf

[astral thorn]

why wasn't 3 team cashout chosen as the main mode and it was 4 teams instead?

[stoic cosmos]

THE FINALS should focus more on fun, shooting, killing, rather than a slow paced match.

[cold lotus]

how about add guns, this is a FPS shooter as far as i’m concerned not mortal kombat

[carmine quail]

BRING BACK CASHOUT TA suckass

[pallid sierra]

The throwing knives are WAYYY too OP rn, I thought they were fine a week ago but you buffed them again? 2 shots on a medium and theyre gone in less time than I can read it and defend myself 💀 does anyone at embark think?

[wild hamlet]

This game mode is horrible

[full quarry]

The Finals is a great game and some people just hate to hate. It’s fast paced and the classes are balanced enough. The maps are beautiful and the cosmetics are cool. It makes it feel like you’re truly immersed. Don’t really have much to improve on except advertise it more (and get rid of terminal tbh)

[versed cloud]

I really wish they would have added more guns to medium this season

[shell steppe]

Is there a reason that Motion Blur is randomly activated (and deactivates after the rounds starts) in the warmup phase of TM? it makes me dizzy lol

[shy swan]

PETITION TO GET MORE EXACT MOUSE SENSITIVITY SETTINGS AND OPTIONAL AUTO MANTALING SETTINGS PETITION TO GET MORE EXACT MOUSE SENSITIVITY SETTINGS AND OPTIONAL AUTO MANTALING SETTINGS PETITION TO GET MORE EXACT MOUSE SENSITIVITY SETTINGS AND OPTIONAL AUTO MANTALING SETTINGS PETITION TO GET MORE EXACT MOUSE SENSITIVITY SETTINGS AND OPTIONAL AUTO MANTALING SETTINGS

[viral quiver]

Why can’t I respond with my weapons reload?????????

[quick coyote]

bro why’s the starter pack not multibucks

[hearty hemlock]

woah someone on shrouds stream just made some cool suggestions, add like a token system to terminal attack, "maybe it resets on kills" have it be just like a brawl, add healing and revives back in some way

[high temple]

people are intentionally waiting with defusing the terminal just to waste time, great

[trim olive]

i got through the "fatal error" by running a different easy anti-cheat (battlebitremastered) first.

[quick lodge]

ive noticed it too

[junior temple]

There definitely seems to be a problem with lag and frame drops when destruction happens. It's especially noticeable when the trees in the Kyoto forest get destroyed

[brittle harness]

that's the skill, being on time

[sinful gazelle]

You know when it’s bad when a Shroud is shitting on TA 😂😂😂

Embark get yo shit together and get rid of TA. “Big change to TA” my ass, just adding the standard to any Bomb and defuse game like planting the bomb and pre free zones to set up.

The maps aren’t designed for TA

Some of the balancing aren’t even balancing, they are just reverted changes

You guys talk abt know it took you a long time to make this decision? Huh? Wasn’t TA only out got a month? And you wanna make the biggest change in the game ?

I’m telling you all the new ppls from twitc rivals will just leave the game after finding out the rank game mode is TA

[shy walrus]

Forcing TA for new players is a REALLY bad idea and a scummy way to make people play it. I would not have 500 hours in the game if when i first played, it was TA. I would have just gone back to my old main game

[grave sierra]

i just unlocked the spear and realize nowwhy some heavies were just spinning around doing nothing, one click lasts like 8 seconds, three whole swings, i feel it should be like 2 at most, with a transition to +2 spins if you click again, i feel like a sitting duck if i accidentally press right click.

[vague ridge]

During "REBUILDING THE ARENA FOR THE NEXT ROUND" it would be nice to be able to see the scores or otherwise have something to look at, because it takes like 1 minute or so

[stark notch]

this has to be the worse season yet lmfao

[compact scroll]

@pearl kiln Uninstalled the Game, once you fix up the unbalance and the trash map (kyoto) ping me.
bro Heavy is useless now, tripple sword is hella broken, throwing knives are broken. bamboo gets in the way of shots.

[worldly scaffold]

Update is great, love the new glitch trap, but you did nothing to the sniper... Not a beep from the devs regarding it, just get rid off it, or re-design it. Powershift is not fun with it, and it is going to drive people away from TA too, just watch. Also, some performance issues after the patch, but I'm sure those get ironed out. EDIT: Oh yeah, if you are forcing new people to play TA first (?), you driving a lot of people away, lol. I would not have stayed with the game, if that was my first experience.

[dreamy charm]

If Cashout Ranked is only out while you tweak it why leave us stuck with TA was there really no other option

[lavish shard]

Nerf bow quikly please

[sage abyss]

BRO FIX TA, IF U SOME1 LEAVES THE GAME ENDS IF U LEAVE YOU GET BANNED BRO WTF

[lament heron]

Place change ta and cashout so we can progress like before. I love the new changes but TA is definitelly not a good way for the finals as a main mode

[fringe hatch]

Respawn still not fixed

[lime trellis]

Fantastic game and Great update!

[teal bear]

Cry more

[normal jackal]

Terminal mode without hp regen Is sh*it

[twilit patrol]

Can someone put ranked in cashout back? THANK YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[obtuse ether]

Skill issue, heavy was OP before, just slightly tuned down now. Class still has an insane amount of utility. Just say you don't know how to play and get it over with

People are just used to the HHM meta and now that it has changed they are crying because they MIGHT have to play something else

[quartz shell]

@compact scroll what are you saying, heavy still broken lol

• skill issue

@sage abyss I had 4 games where people leaved and nothing happened, thats weird

[formal herald]

terminal attack needs full regen. The bow can 1 shot body shot anyone who has been tagged

[vocal bloom]

Some ideas I have for terminal attack:
Respawn Trophies
-When an enemy gets eliminated they turn into the blue trophy like from other game modes
-The trophy has 25hp and can be destroyed by the enemies
-The trophy has a short time limit before destroying itself
Revives
-Player can get revived once per round if their trophy hasn't been destroyed.
-Healing beam can be used but only has, maybe 100 ammo?

Didn't mean to ping tou MekNaan, my bad lol

[rapid vapor]

getting stuck on bamboo is the best 🙂

[tawdry tree]

The new season is great, really love it, but there is some obvious problems. As a main LH1, I feel like the up is to much, up damage or recoil, not both. TA as ranked is a bad idea (I know a lot of ppl already complain about it, but for good reasons). And I feel like the spear and double sword lack of something to be good, but I can't put my finger on, there's just something off with them.

Anyway, love the new weapon ideas anyway, Kyoto is so fing amazing, most of the balance are what the community was complaining about and the battle pass is great (except the anime skin that makes me cringe as a fortnite reboot). Thx and Oscar does a pretty good job as a community manager

[vernal swallow]

LET ME CHOOSE TEAMS IN CUSTOM MATCH CUZ I WANNA PLAY QUICK CASH W/ MA FRIEND ON KYOTO BUT I CANT CUZ I DONT HAVE 4 MORE

[clear berry]

Hey, just wanted to pop in here and add to the feedback: I also don’t think new players should be forced to play terminal attack for 10 matches. If cashout is supposed to be the main mode still, I would recommend at least making them play world tour instead if you want to railroad them before letting them loose.

[high wing]

Well these patch notes are a huge failure. It's lacking the most fundemental changes this game needs.

• No updated servers or improved netcode, meaning desync/delay is still there which can be up to 1 second if not more
• No improvements to hit-registration, meaning sometimes your shots/hit just does nothing
• Game did not receive any improved optimization, meaning it still runs like shit even if everything is on low
• No fix for crash to desktop
• No fix for PC crashing
• No fix for unable to do any action like using a zipline or attacking
• No fix for the parkour which still is unreliable and buggy
• Still not banning cheaters permanently
• No fix for the respawn system which in most cases gives advantage to respawning team
• Store credits still doesnt show real value of the price in euro or you local currency
• No more in depth profiles with match history and stats
• Still can't see other players steam profile
• No specific keybindings for each class and loadout
• No setting for default skins in equipment menu
• No fix for sword/melee abusers, can still sword attack and quick attack, and emote/gadget switching for infinite dmg
• No UI for ping/latency
• Not removing aim assist from PC lobbies
• No improvement on visible stats/numbers on weapons and gadgets

All we get is a new map to suffer on.

[candid flower]

I hate this game

[bright loom]

1. On one slice of bread, spread peanut butter evenly over the bread.
   2)On the other slice of bread, spread the jelly evenly over the bread.
   3)Put the two slices of bread together with the peanut butter and jelly facing in.
   4)Serve and enjoy!
   Optional: Remove crusts, cut diagonally.

[strong escarp]

Give the 93R a proper buff! This is UNACCEPTABLE for a gun that already had ZERO redeeming qualities compared to the other Light guns.
Its range buff doesn't matter. The XP and LH1 kill significantly faster at range, and the SH1900, M11, and V9S kill faster up close.
So it's designed around headshots? Other Light weapons kill faster with headshots.
This gun still has no niche, and it's even worse than before. I hope that it doesn't go an entire season this way.

[stray inlet]

In private match, I can see my friends through the map like they're hit with sonar

[grizzled wyvern]

Aim assist got nerfed into the ground lmao. You aren’t losing matches bc 1 or 2 people have slight aim assist playing on controller lmaooo

[winged cargo]

only good message in this channel

[raw swan]

I'm already feeling some burnout, I like workd tour and I'd like to practice on cashout to get better but Its really difficult when all skill levels are tunneled into quick cash, so I'm practicing with try hards that are too good for me. Idk maybe it's a skill issue

[flint jungle]

Ranked 5v5 is boring...
Is very most funny world tour...

[paper hare]

You should make the power ranger skin have like 5 different colors so you can have a 5 stack of different rangers

[turbid wigeon]

LH1 is WAAAAAY overtuned now. Needs either the recoil renerfed or the damage

[zealous schooner]

WE NEED MUSIC SELECTORS FOR LOBBY

Season 1 and 2’s soundtracks cant just be abandoned like this in-game

[sharp herald]

Terminal Attack ranked is hype

Having to interact with the terminal is a good change, generally great fun atm

[pseudo breach]

Day 71 of asking for South African servers

[ember island]

I think the recurve bow was the worst thing that could have been added into the game. Worse than the throwing knives buff. Not only do I take an insane amount of damage from one arrow, but the fact that you can spam the arrows with an infinite amount of ammo (no reloading), with the crazy projectile velocity (PRACTICALLY HITSCAN), and no indication as to when they are vulnerable (literally never), just ruins the entire fucking experience for me. I have never been so mad about a game like this before that isn't a souls-game. I FEEL LIKE I'M PLAYING SEKIRO AGAIN!!! NERF THAT BOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[torpid pine]

This gamer community has the absolute most toxic and emotionally unstable people I’ve ever heard attempting to talk the English language. I’m seriously worried about some of y’all when we are playing and y’all raging at each other.

[cerulean dust]

the giant red bar at the top of the screen "match has been cancelled" is honestly too big. Pls make it smoller or reposition it
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1242251909184618597/1250951906734510160/image.png?ex=666ccf40&is=666b7dc0&hm=b0bd838405b568f39e14933c00d4ae3d56479c99a4a1fa51c93b7bd139576a50&

[weak valley]

Don’t force new players to play TA. My girl hates it lmao

[rotund prism]

Would love for ranked to return to normal pls, or give us the option of both

[latent shoal]

I love this game since the beta and i still love it, i like TA mode, but in a casual play, i liked to play ta for 2 or 3 match and go again in a ranked cashout, i tried the TA ranked it's just boring, i don't found the speed of the finals i have in cashout. I playes in world tour and i think it's good and i hope we gonna get more than gold rank and skin for the rank we are

[strange dune]

Yeah the new ranked is idiodic, At least if you could have medium healing or something

[solemn finch]

This game needs to be fixed. TA was not the way to go and I'm honestly contemplating not playing for this season. The Finals is iconic for its 3v3v3v3 so you should really keep jt as the ranked mode. I do think that something should be implemented to stop as much 3rd partying but pls embark, make the ge fun again.

[olive shell]

Ranked TA is so garbage, reverse the decision asap. The fall off is going to be insane at this rate

[keen siren]

If you're just gonna turn this game into valorant might as well add a forfeit option so that we don't have to play a full TA match with 1 man out... Nobody wants to sit through an entire ranked game where they have a handicap. Fix the damn bugs.

@autumn reef as I predicted... We saw what happened with powershift. Snipers are cancer.

[dawn kayak]

Why should the Season 3 Starter Pack be a separate purchase?
Previous Starter packs can be purchased with points😭 😭 😭

[molten trail]

i love it when people can hide behind defibs and i cant shoot through 🤡

[quiet frost]

Why did they make the play again button the same as the report button on PlayStation

[nimble anvil]

hmmm i may be wrong data reshaper got rid of dome shield that time. maybe it can get bugged out and not work like other stuff. it didnt reshape glitch trap just now, though.

Actually, now that I think about it the glitch trap was not affecting me, though. Maybe theres a graphical bug where it works on the trap but it doesnt change its model.

[frank magnet]

nah tthis would make it like fornite and show how dessperate they are

[autumn reef]

every TA is 5 lights so fun

[hardy bridge]

The bow is fucking shit

[tight badger]

The duality of man...

[noble condor]

love these server issues resulting in bans with no idea of how long they take and only giving us 60 seconds to load up the game again

[wild hamlet]

TA IS TRASH

[thorn elbow]

on top of having to play TA, i just get in the game, the audio is all good but im stuck on a loading screen forever even when the round is in progress LMAOOOOOO ayt good update fr embark good shit

[copper lily]

TA is still trash, literally unplayable piece of shit

[gleaming lance]

This channel is a joy to read through 🙂

[midnight panther]

it’s not this bad when there isn’t a main mode that has been marketed as the main mode removed from the game

[cosmic ether]

Light dominated lobbies all spamming the same weapon is kinda cancerous.. Nothing against lights I just think Embark's missed the mark a bit when it comes to balancing these few rounds.

[lilac mango]

Wifi shows fine, but controls are delayed when inputted and specializations and interactions dont work. Please fix this.

[opal plover]

lmao looking through these comments I wonder if I'm playing the same game. People are crying about issues I've never seen in the game, there's half of the people saying Light is OP and half saying Light is unplayable...

I am loving all the new weapons and rebalances so far on all classes, I used to hate TA and with the changes it now feels a lot better (although it can be still too slow paced) and the only issue I have is that I can only have 6 loadouts while I'd like to have more to justify getting more skins and using more of the new weapons.

Really sad to see such a good update tarnished by all this toxicity. I wonder what the solution could be, powershift in ranked instead of Terminal Attack? That feels a lot more unique to the finals while playing better with the existing maps and being more fast paced, while still being just two teams of 5.

Let's hope all this toxicity doesn't push new players away, I'm sure it's a very vocal minority that is throwing all this unconstructive criticism, there are things to improve but nowhere near to justify all this bs.

[minor juniper]

lh1 needs lower damage or fire rate

[iron charm]

Bow is great fun but maybe a lil bit too strong atm

[worldly scaffold]

Love the new Glitch trap, new map is cool too from first impressions, bundles now being separate items, is awesome change too. Reagrding that, please make makeup and tattoos separate, would boost sales too I think.

[granite frost]

Nah Ta is boring as hell. It’s kinda fun as a light but this isn’t why I started playing the finals

[ocean shore]

update sonar grenade animation so you can know how far away you need to be to not be detected. it's the same as season 2 even though the sonar got buffed

[jovial sonnet]

light weapons should be strong to compensate for their baby health

[frail wave]

Born to play Cashout, Forced to play Terminal Attack. At least here's some fixes you can do to make it better.

HOW TO FIX TERMINAL ATTACK

• Prep phase is too long, there's nothing to prep, not a big deal, but minimum, in a 13 round match, you're expected to stay still for ~6.5 minutes
• Voiceline Alerts needed if Key isn't picked up, "We forgot the Decryption key",
• Decryption Key should NOT be a carriable item, instead should be a status, you either have the key or not. Press G to drop. A decrpytion key viewmodel + planting key animations would be cool too.
• Terminal shouldn't make any noise while planting OR disabling, you can't fake a steal. There should be an initial beep and that's it. As much as I wish it was, this isn't cashout.
• No reduced loss if a teammate goes AFK, still? Seriously?
• These maps are way too big and not made for Terminal Attack, most of the map isn't explored, maybe make smaller versions of the bigger map, which will allow the half time reconstruction phase to complete faster?
• An economy would make the game more interesting, defuse kits, buy ur gadgets, buy ur special, buy armor. Don't think guns should be sold, unless guns were reworked (i.e more guns) Maybe you could buy ammo for ur gun instead? Cash rewards for killing, planting, etc.
• The guardian turret is too OP for this mode. The turret should have certain ammo, i.e 30/30, after shooting 30 bullets, the turret reloads itself, or maybe the owner must reload it manually. I prefer the first option.
• When you die, your trophy drops, and you can be revived. There are no Respawn Tokens, and you must be revived by a teammate. UNTIL THE DECRPYTION KEY IS PLANTED After the key is planted, all trophies are destroyed and respawns are disabled.
• Bring the healing beam and defib back, as buyable items. The healing beam may only heal white health.

HOW TO FIX CASHOUT

• When you wipe an enemy team, you gain 30 percent of their lost money
• When holding cashout, @ 25 % Completion gain $2.5k, @ 75 % Completion gain $2.5k, @ Cashout Completion gain $5k, 3 Split rewards for one cashout. (overwatch capture point basically)
• Spawns should be fixed, 3 v 3 at first vault, both teams should spawn at an equal distance to the vault, nobody should spawn with a Tempo Advantage
• Charge N' Slam nerf
  * Light regen hp faster Embark did this one in S3
• Higher cash reward for kills
• No premade teammates in Diamond 2+ Emerald 2+, since Embark confirmeed Ruby is Top 500, ladder rank should be based on individual skill rather than who stacks/plays more

[rapid vapor]

i want to use the spear so bad, but why is it not good? damage could be better, and whats the spinning attack for? attackiong or defendingg? cause it gets no job done in that aspect. BU*NCH OF LIGHTS EVERYWHERE, im sure you guys hear the complaints..... make all classes balanced again, why is there always a "meta"

[candid flower]

Gain 30 percent lol ur dumb ppl just gonna thirst whole game lmao what a horrible idea🤣🫵

[kindred bloom]

YES

[ashen stirrup]

this season so buggy i just got kicked out of a world tour match after winning for why performance has been so bad especially on power shift its crazy

[strange inlet]

HARD agree

[unreal fossil]

This whole post: skill issue.

[quartz crag]

I know this might be controversial to people who enjoy terminal, but why did we get rid of cashout ranked? I didnt hear alot of people saying "get rid of cashout and make terminal the new rank mode for bronze to ruby". Also if terminals gonna be the main ranked mode, then allow us to use defib and heal beam/revive, it seems the rounds go by in 1-2 minutes. You guys are so good at standing out from other companies and have given rank a new meaning, which is why I am confused as to why were following the R6 Valorant and CSGO playstyle, the reason why people such as myself play this game a lot is because its different from other games and allows players to do things that they couldn't try in other competitive multiplayers. I love this game and want to see it grow and the community behind it. I know there's still a lot of things to think about and bugs to work on but at least put this into thought before paper. Thanks for reading.

[upper citrus]

holy skill issue. light has literally never been better

[shell steppe]

Hello Embark!
love the new map, its amazing. but there is some serious **problem **to play on it with a weapon like the **KS-23. **

There are so many bushes, tress and other stuff that swallow the whole slug shot.
Its insanely hard to hit something with it. close to impossible to have some consistency.

Making the map less cluttered is an awful idea, i like it a lot. But maybe make the slug shot penetrate 1 obstacle would resolve the whole inconsistency.

Love S3, awesome work Embark!

[quick coyote]

My Rookie circuits were auto completed

[fathom spear]

Anyone else have issues trying to buy the starter pack?

[frosty notch]

THE FRAME DROPPAGE ON THE NEW MAP IS ABSOLUTELY DOG WATER, also pushing this sword and knives narrative is KILLING this sped ass game

[crystal raptor]

Dual blades.. perfect 👌 don’t ever change them! I’m obsessed

[fluid maple]

new ranked is soooooo baddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddd

[minor willow]

The new dual blades are trash. What are you talking about? The lack of mobility is its biggest problem

[waxen jacinth]

Played 6 games now, I'm working tommorow, is the new map even in the list,

[wise falcon]

Honestly should just give everybody the season 2 AK skin. I needed 4 quick melee kills and I didn't even check the challenges after their "Fix" cause embark is braindead and couldn't actually fix it. I'm not even gonna go for the challenges this season and they're the only thing keeping me interested. I guess I should have expected this cause battlefailed was the same bullsh t.

[distant oar]

Power shift should probably have it's own tab or more prominence in the menu, as it's overshadowed by world tour and cashout.
Love the update Embark!

[drifting pawn]

i see lots of mentions of embark "seeing" and "looking into" server crashes and such but are ya'll also seeing and looking into bringing ranked cashout back and just tossing termninal attack back into the quickplay bin and leaving it there?

[cerulean mason]

Absolutely loving the winch claw, loving the state of light rn I can actually play evasively and regen health quick enough.havent used the new weapons a whole lot but love the bow physics so far, and thermal bore was exactly the utility that light needed, however I'd recommend buffing breach charge as it pales in comparison. The winch claw can be a little too oppressive with how quickly you can swap to rpg after hooking someone, which could use some tuning. However I think it's important that you keep the ability to combo the pull with primary weapon to keep the combat utility viable for guns instead of just flamethrower and melee. Thank you for the beautiful update, props to everyone, the design team nailed the new map, sound team dropped another banger, and balance team brought some much needed changes that we've been asking for. Love you guys

[slim scarab]

Cap light went crazy in closed beta, they nerfed its health tho

[orchid olive]

I really tried to keep an open mind about this game, but moving to the ranked terminal just doesn't work well. It's simply not enjoyable and not worth playing.

[dry timber]

Hey @pearl kiln do you think one day we will be able to give/trade items to our friends ?

[wooden trout]

I love the winch claw but I wish it didn't break after a connect 😦 https://imgur.com/Hw2d5MY

[foggy ginkgo]

Melee weapons are cool and all but can we actually get weapons that we’ll actually be able to use in ranked. Something to actually shake up the meta.

[honest verge]

The grind to get new gadgets/weapons/specializations feels too long. The BP is the main grind anyways. Unlocking an early gadget you dislike when there's another you'd vibe with is unfortunate and I would guess turns away players.

[shy swan]

GET MORE EXACT MOUSE SENSITIVITY SETTINGS AND OPTIONAL AUTO MANTALING SETTINGS EVERYONE IN KNOW COMPLAINS ABOUT IT INCLUDING ME GET MORE EXACT MOUSE SENSITIVITY SETTINGS AND OPTIONAL AUTO MANTALING SETTINGS EVERYONE IN KNOW COMPLAINS ABOUT IT INCLUDING ME GET MORE EXACT MOUSE SENSITIVITY SETTINGS AND OPTIONAL AUTO MANTALING SETTINGS EVERYONE IN KNOW COMPLAINS ABOUT IT INCLUDING ME GET MORE EXACT MOUSE SENSITIVITY SETTINGS AND OPTIONAL AUTO MANTALING SETTINGS EVERYONE IN KNOW COMPLAINS ABOUT IT INCLUDING ME GET MORE EXACT MOUSE SENSITIVITY SETTINGS AND OPTIONAL AUTO MANTALING SETTINGS EVERYONE IN KNOW COMPLAINS ABOUT IT INCLUDING ME GET MORE EXACT MOUSE SENSITIVITY SETTINGS AND OPTIONAL AUTO MANTALING SETTINGS EVERYONE IN KNOW COMPLAINS ABOUT IT INCLUDING ME

[sour rover]

Skill issue fam

[coral forum]

yup

[jagged cedar]

not really

[novel zephyr]

80% of my games are leavers, either crash or just ragers, no idea. But games NEVER FINISH because if this in ranked. WTF

[winter gull]

Who were thos players who wanted to allegedly play TA in ranked? Who gave that feedback?

[tough merlin]

I feel like you should use the bow >.> you're not going to be spamming many full charged arrows, you have to lead target if you want to hit anything at range, and they're vunlerable to everything that a gun is vulnerable too.

In most cases the sniper does everything the bow does but better. Better at long range. Is actually hitscan. Is full damage at the click if a button (quickscope/noscope for 115 damage at cqb) Where as bow is find person, nock arrow, Pull arrow back all the way do 120 damage

The bows fun but its actual dps isn't all that high cause of the time it takes to nock, and fully charge the bow.

@ember island Benana then idk what you're on cause if you use any other weapon you'd feel the dps difference >.>

[glass fjord]

nerfed its health, damage, abilities, and gadgets--- cb light was lit

@winter gull exactly.... no one asked for this. theres zero chance the data (player count in mode) led them to this either

[lavish shard]

NERF BOW NERF BOW

[limber ingot]

https://clips.twitch.tv/ToughAttractiveAppleDoubleRainbow-vW7vgR7aye5n_xqb nice ad

[ember island]

I have used the bow; that's where most of points originate from is from experience against it and with it. So far, the only counter I have found to beat the light, is to be the light. (Again, from personal experience).

[molten trail]

rpg 140 dmg 🤡 charge 130 dmg 🤡 medium turret aimbots u 0 skill 🤡

[glacial plaza]

guns be like pea shooters now

[astral condor]

L ranked

[sacred siren]

didnt load me into the game, restarted, and i Joined back, and it still cancelled the match when I joined back even when I'm spectating my teammates

[kind thistle]

Please add ability to change game menu music in audio settings between Season 1/2/3 themes. PUBG and Quake Champions has this feature added!

[charred seal]

Are any of you facing an issue where you are able to play every mode but when you start ranked terminal attack you are just stuck on the loading screen for some reason. This isse has gotten me 3 penalties now and it's soo irritating man. Plus why is the match being terminated for terminal attack if one teammate is not there. I mean this sucks plz fix this.

[dawn kayak]

Why should the Season 3 Starter Pack be a separate purchase?
Previous Starter packs can be purchased with points😡 😡 😡

[plain bolt]

TA is the really the worst gamemode, god i hate it it feels unfair

[bold gorge]

Sorry The Finals but your game sucks now, I came for a new game that made me enjoying FPS again, and believe me it's been a while.
But you guys kick Cash out game mode ranked for TA.
I know that you guys can still working on it but wtf ??? Can't you just work on it while we are playing ranked ? It's your core game mode
Idk how how much people here a enjoying the TA in Ranked ..

[cyan vessel]

IS IT JUST ME OR THE NEW RANKED MODE SUCKS IT IS NOT ENJOYABLE IN MY OP AND I FEEL LIKE MOST PEOPLE AGREE AND THAT LIGHT SUCKS NOW AND BUFFED MEDUIUM AND HEAVY I LIKE THE THEME OF THIS SESON AND THE WEPONS FOR THE MOST PART BUT THIS NEW RANKED SUCKS

[stone hazel]

winch claw needs a wind up animation so you can see it coming and prepare
i cant place my heavy walls down consistently in kyoto
grav cube and light's teleport thing have WAY too big hitboxes so they never go where im aiming
and the platforms feel really buggy today im rubberbanding off of them constantly
also the right click on the spear just doesnt register hits sometimes
spear animations when youre doing other stuff are broken so i constantly see the spear when climbing or carrying something
earlier i got an animation bug where the spear model was two or three times its normal size in my hand during the right click animation
on some buildings in kyoto you can get trapped on the roof against the invisible arena wall with no way to drop down off that side
the contestant card preview when choosing which contestant to play still has the wrong aspect ratio and looks squished

[vernal swallow]

deluxe bacon cheeseburger with extra cheese.

[glad magnet]

I think being suspended for two hours is way too much, espically when stuck on a loading screen and you are just trying to reconnect

[cobalt coyote]

Must say, as a top 2K diamond Terminal Attack just isn't fun. I've gotten my rank and I want to get back to diamond but I've found 0 enjoyment in playing knockoff CS. It may be more predictable and therefore more competitive to some but why does the finals have to be the pinnacle of esports? Can't we just have fun?

[somber axle]

This ☝️

[upper citrus]

why was the lh1 buffed it needed to be nerfed

slow the rate of fire by like 35%

[rancid cloud]

The turret recall animation to begin the cooldown of the turret should have the recall progress move UP on the screen rather than move down. While recalling the black moves down on the screen, which means the last little percentage of the animation ends up being off camera below the player's FOV. If the progress bar animation on the turret tablet ends at the top of the tablet screen, you can see when the recall is completed. There should be an audio cue when the recall is completed too.

[visual sierra]

seems like there's some kind of hit registration problem with the medium shotgun

[frosty notch]

SWORD AND KNIVE META IS THE WORST SHIT YALL COULD HAVE DONE TO THIS ONCE GOOD ASS GAME.. SHIT TRASH NOW

[pallid ocean]

stuck on a loading screen but can still hear everything and shoot my gun, what a lovely experience 👍

[gloomy merlin]

why in the world does it end an unranked TA match if someone leaves the lobby but it doesn't do that for ranked? seems backwards

[fervent onyx]

has anyone else's frames dropped significantly since the update? also there seems to be more input delay.

[white garnet]

Guys just a suggestion from someone who played finals and r6 for sometime..
maybe make the choice for defenders to pick spawn points. So that the players know who's defending each terminal and prepare their defenses accordingly.

Does this make sense?

[glass talon]

Overall this season has been, to put kindly, poorly executed

New weapons seem really fun in interesting in concept but three of them need major tweaking. Spear is buggy in which many hits that clearly connect don’t get registered either due to the current server issues or client side issues. Dual blades are awful 50 damage a swing makes it decent against lights you catch off guard but more often than not you get out maneuvered and against mediums and heavy the weapons is awful due to the higher health pools. Winch claw needs some kind of tell in order to better avoid because an instant yoink and jerk of the screen just leaves you defenseless.

Ranked is now just a joke, what caught the hearts of the player base at the start of the game was how the game played and the options you could take in order to win in bank it. This made the game play even more unique on top of the extreme destruction you can cause. This core game mode we played for months is removed for ranked and now replaced with a similar mode of play to other games most similarly to R6. I don’t know why the decision was made to replace bank it but I’m sure I speak for the majority of players when I say that we want ranked bank it back at least for a separate ranked mode

[fluid maple]

give us cash back

[rough hinge]

Double barrel buff is absurd... revert that change.

[wise falcon]

Wow rookie circuit already completed and no multibucks what a surprise😂

[torn shell]

Just saying that caused we lost in rank

[gilded sage]

Love S3! can’t wait for ranked cashout to return!❤️❤️

[frail wave]

Born to play Cashout, Forced to play Terminal Attack. At least here's some fixes you can do to make it better.

HOW TO FIX TERMINAL ATTACK

• Prep phase is too long, there's nothing to prep, not a big deal, but minimum, in a 13 round match, you're expected to stay still for ~6.5 minutes
• Voiceline Alerts needed if Key isn't picked up, "We forgot the Decryption key",
• Decryption Key should NOT be a carriable item, instead should be a status, you either have the key or not. Press G to drop. A decrpytion key viewmodel + planting key animations would be cool too.
• Terminal shouldn't make any noise while planting OR disabling, you can't fake a steal. There should be an initial beep and that's it. As much as I wish it was, this isn't cashout.
• No reduced loss if a teammate goes AFK, still? Seriously?
• These maps are way too big and not made for Terminal Attack, most of the map isn't explored, maybe make smaller versions of the bigger map, which will allow the half time reconstruction phase to complete faster?
• An economy would make the game more interesting, defuse kits, buy ur gadgets, buy ur special, buy armor. Don't think guns should be sold, unless guns were reworked (i.e more guns) Maybe you could buy ammo for ur gun instead? Cash rewards for killing, planting, etc.
• The guardian turret is too OP for this mode. The turret should have certain ammo, i.e 30/30, after shooting 30 bullets, the turret reloads itself, or maybe the owner must reload it manually. I prefer the first option.
• When you die, your trophy drops, and you can be revived. There are no Respawn Tokens, and you must be revived by a teammate. UNTIL THE DECRPYTION KEY IS PLANTED After the key is planted, all trophies are destroyed and respawns are disabled.
• Bring the healing beam and defib back, as buyable items. The healing beam may only heal white health.
• Add 5 different colors to be randomly assigned to a player on a team. These colors can be used to identify a teammate and pings. So when you ping an enemy or anything, your color is also on the ping.

HOW TO FIX CASHOUT

• When you wipe an enemy team, you gain 30 percent of their lost money
• When holding cashout, @ 25 % Completion gain $2.5k, @ 75 % Completion gain $2.5k, @ Cashout Completion gain $5k, 3 Split rewards for one cashout. (overwatch capture point basically)
• Spawns should be fixed, 3 v 3 at first vault, both teams should spawn at an equal distance to the vault, nobody should spawn with a Tempo Advantage
• Charge N' Slam nerf
  * Light regen hp faster Embark did this one in S3
• Higher cash reward for kills
• No premade teammates in Diamond 2+ Emerald 2+, since Embark confirmeed Ruby is Top 500, ladder rank should be based on individual skill rather than who stacks/plays more

[digital herald]

mediums need movement to use sword it’s hard to get close even with the deflection system because you can still die pretty easily

[wide mirage]

Had this issue couple times

[arctic bramble]

Dear Embark my Beloved
Winch claw shouldn’t pull enemies all the way to the face of the heavy, instead it should pull them and release them about 3.5 quarters of the way through, it should let them go with some momentum torwards your direction.. this wouldn’t make it useless for heavy, but it would make it a bit more skillful, in return it could have a 1 second less on cool down or something.

Also, riot shield and katana should be able to deflect the winch claw, thus adding some more value to an otherwise more than likely unused weapon.

[summer yoke]

Season feels good so far aside from op bow spam

[versed summit]

bow is p hard to use so i dont really mind it

[rocky meteor]

My single complaint is terminal attack, please stick with cashout

[kindred crypt]

i already had the rank 6 skin for throwing knives unlocked and now after the update instead of gaining xp towards rank 7 (pink zebra) its showing xp gain for rank 6 again

[analog ibex]

Using terminal attack for ranked is ridiculous and the worse idea ever put forth on this game

[eager vine]

The secondary fire on the Heavy spear is so broken lol you can throw things super far with it like the cash box lol and you can even zipline while doing the animation it looks weird 😆

[true zinc]

I love the world Tour mode

[lavish shard]

Bow🤡TK🤡double sword🤡

[jolly crown]

Maybe someone already said it but On console I can't select to re-queue. Because it is now bind to triangle and that is the same button to report a player at end of round lol

[broken raptor]

Using terminal attack for ranked is ridiculous and the worst idea ever put forth on this game

[candid flower]

You literally have to rely on getting half decent teamates to play ranked so dumb

[chrome citrus]

Just run a 5 stack

[shy swan]

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[simple sierra]

no not really

[marsh torrent]

Hey Embark Devs,
Congrats on S3 and thanks for cookin. Kyoto is sick!

Small bit of feedback on the Discord experience: I think needing to post massive amounts of messages to level up so I can post images of my drip in #🔥┇drip-check kinda sucks. Honestly incentivizes people to argue or spam to get the message count up.
It would be really nice if I could link my Discord to my game account and level up my Discord level along with something like Career level. Unlock image perms at like 25-35+ or something.

Least useless thing I could think of posting. +1

[pseudo latch]

Day 88 of me begging the devs to give heavy an M134 Minigun as a Specialization.
200 Round magazine, ammo is restored two bullets every second, 100 seconds for a full reload.
20 rounds per second, eleven damage a round, 220 DPS. No headshot modifier to keep DPS from becoming insane.
Falloff begins at 30 meters down to six damage a shot at 50, but wide spread means the weapon becomes less effective past 10 meters even against larger targets, you’re probably not getting higher than 150 DPS even as far as 10 meters.
bullets do high damage to structures (should be breaking walls in 20-50 shots) allowing a mid-range option to output mass destruction (destroying entire walls on higher floors of buildings, ripping apart nesting sightlines)

• significant damage to structures and players
• gun can be pre-spooled with RMB over having an ADS (for obvious reasons, you try to aim down the sights of a water cooler)|
• high suppressive force through sheer amount of bullets being fired
• its a goddamn minigun

• Heavy cannot jump or sprint while holding it, has to switch back to primary
• lengthy equip-unequip time to balance such, no “pocket minigun” strats, choosing to use this mid-combat is a commitment, one that could get you killed.
• gun has to spool up for a second before firing, spool up being LOUD

Heres to another 100 Days of this lmao

[quick coyote]

Keep cashout ranked

[molten trail]

rpg 140 dmg 🤡 charge 130 dmg 🤡 medium turret aimbots u 0 skill 🤡

[sand talon]

light need a nerf badly

[rotund prism]

PLEASE CASHOUT RANKED!

[topaz bloom]

The event version of Terminal Attack was way more fun. Having drive play plants was awesome. But this version feels sluggish and boring. And the match canceling doesn’t help. I don’t care if my teamamtes leave, I just want to play a fun and enjoyable mode. Prep time makes no sense when it takes ages to plant.

[balmy pewter]

the dual blades need some kind of lunge attack

[quick coyote]

New UI really shows where your values lie, forcing other gamemodes to a box in the small top right corner rather than leaving them where they were before to showcase the dogshit tac shooter siege clone no one asked for will really help your playerbase

[crisp oxide]

TERMINAL ATTTACK IS TRASH. MAKE NEW MAP RANKED MODE REAL. AMAZING JOB W THE NEW MAP ITS LIKE A WHOLE NEW GAME

[winter gull]

Biggest critique for TA is honestly that its neither Cashout nor actually good.

[opaque lagoon]

I love the spear

[whole frost]

I think the idea to remove cashout ranked was a good idea. Adding TA ranked was not. In fact I think ranked was executed in a terrible way overall. It's generic and it is overused. The game is supposed to be a virtual world GAMESHOW. I think this world tour is a step in the right direction. Wouldn't it be so much cooler to have crowds cheering for you, special voice lines, and an in-match leaderboard? But that's going away from the topic of ranked. The Finals should make a new kind of ranked. Experiment. The world tour is be your first step to that. Edit: @quick coyote I agree. But generally the point I'm making, is make the game feel more show-like. Make it feel like you are actually climbing in a popularity ladder. The whole highlight reel thing is also a step towards that, but what if they made that on a more regular basis?

[civic hinge]

the new ta ranked is killing this game mark my words]

[formal falcon]

[stone hazel]

this might be lag but my whole team just died to a sword light player who was doing damage farther away than the swords range and before the swing animation even started to play
trying to time a 1v1 melee fight isnt possible when i take damage before their attack animation plays and from farther away than they should be able to do damage from

[drowsy cargo]

revolver 😞

[quick coyote]

The crowd cheering should be a separate audio setting
It's really annoying in the menu when you have music off waiting for a game

[wispy sand]

Its season 3. Stop putting someone that left a casual into the same casual game. If this game actually has a player base then that should NEVER happen. Thank you <3

[vital epoch]

Cant load into matches at all?

[dull ibex]

Stuck in rebuilding arena listening to my team play. Thanks

[pulsar jay]

switch ranked to cashout and world tour to ta, the explanation that you want to take out cashout to work on it more makes no sense when terminal attack is the unfinished gamemode

also maybe scale back that lh-1 damage buff that makes it 1 less shot to kill stuff, it was already strong as hell

[sacred siren]

was skeptical about TA replacing tournament, was vocal about the change hoping devs would listen to feedback. Gave it a chance. its fucking terrible.

[nimble anvil]

please fix the intro emote resetting glitch. The intro emotes reset whenever you get a new one. At least the battle pass emotes behave this way. Not sure about non battlepass emotes.

[quick coyote]

Cant we just have both Cashout and Terminal Attack in rank maybe?

[jagged cedar]

nerf the lh1. The weapon was already by far the best light weapon and excelled at all ranges. It's best in slot for mid range, second best for long range being only outclassed by the sniper, and still excels in close range although there are slightly better options. The recent changes both made it more effective despite dev reassurances but also made it significantly easier to use. 3 tapping light to body and 5 tapping medium to body is absurd. Add this to the lh1 outranging all but one weapon across all classes and you have an extremely oppressive gun for how easy it is to use.

[shrewd egret]

nerf lh1 , give us back cash out ranked

[torpid vault]

Spears shouldn't hit through barricades.

[winged gorge]

The stun on winch claw feels weird? Like sometime they are still for a good bit and other times they can move instantly

[onyx ruin]

I never talk here but I gotta help these devs know.. TA is absolute trash pls give us CO back

[north panther]

I wish it was still yesterday...

[tepid blaze]

Current Issue - The Arch Rival anime head's eyes are too far apart and does not look like its intended

[steel shale]

same

[stable flume]

Psn xSterlerdx need a squad with mics

[fluid maple]

yooooooooooooooo Embark give us cashout back or just make two ranks TA has to be the worst gamemode i have ever played in all my years of gaming and also dont have 5 friends

[jade dragon]

I wish it was yesterday too bro, TA is so fucking garbage. Fire the dev that said "This is it."

[orchid olive]

If the devs wont listen maybe God will, i pray cashout ranked comes back

[real sapphire]

I’m not one to complain much about any game but the dual blades are OP and that defensive crap is just too much.. once or twice, or while standing still only is enough..

[muted thunder]

This new CASUAL Terminal Attack rule of the game ending 2 minutes after a single person leaves is trash. I get it for Ranked, makes perfect sense. But with the amount of people who disconnect the first round into matches in this game it should just continue for Casual.

3/6 Terminal Attack matches I've played so far today have ended because of someone leaving. Just a waste of time.

[molten trail]

rpg 140 dmg 🤡 charge 130 dmg 🤡 medium turret aimbots u 0 skill 🤡

[halcyon knoll]

agreed

[frosty notch]

Heavies with grappling hook and hammer.. WITH 350 HEALTH!! WHAT A GREAT FUCKING IDEA 😒🤬🤬🤬 and the reach is ridiculous as well as the radius on the sword/hammer 😡

[frigid sonnet]

yeah it’s ridiculous

[plain patio]

grappling hook needs a massive time delay, it charges up way too fast

[frank magnet]

The maps ruin it if it was old rank it would be easier but even the new map is unbalanced if they want to stick to TA they have to rework all maps

[untold meadow]

alright... getting 500RS a match in rank being in plats is ass and BORING af ngl... L rank mode

[spiral hemlock]

love the light shotty feels like beta again but not too broken😌

[minor sand]

Boycotting ranked until they acknowledge TA was a bad idea. I love this game, not valorant or r6

[iron coyote]

[trim wasp]

Oh my god they need to bring backed original ranked tournaments please. It was actually a unique game. Now it's not.

[rapid river]

My friend just started today and he has to do the same tutorial 5 times just to play quick play with me. Wtf!?

[obtuse ether]

Putting my vote in along with a million other people that throwing knives need a nerf. Anyone I've seen use them so far is dominating, myself included. Especially in the close quarters buildings of the new map

[hallow nimbus]

Can someone tell me why i continue to get stuck on the loading screens of getting into matches ;-; Im banned now because i physically cant play

[vernal swallow]

lemme choose teams in custom matches

@quick coyote yeah because it’s a slow firing 6 round revolver against a mf with a grappling hook

[quick coyote]

But it’s ok for the revolver to 3 tap lights despite the class having more health?

[green nacelle]

Im getting back to back to back to back matches with players just being afk
can we get like a soft queue ban for people who keep afking

[wide sun]

I love this patch, congrats devs

[wheat frigate]

BRING BACK CASHOUT RANKED FOR THE LOVE OF GOD!!!!!!!!

[drowsy vector]

TA matches take way too long. And I’m not sure I’m a fan of not getting your health back, I think it makes it more boring than it should be. I get the reason behind it, but I don’t think it fits in the finals. I think it would be more fun and energetic if you’re able to get your health back. Anyway, just my opinion. Shorter games, more health, more fun

[upper citrus]

nerf LH1 rate of fire

[simple sierra]

The lh1 honestly fits pretty well considering both other classes basically have similar weapons to the lh1

[thorny cargo]

“Ranked fixed people leaving matches” (this counted against my rank btw)

edit: the game we queued for after was also a 4v5 (embark please fix your game)

[quick coyote]

There was no reason to buff LH1. This shit needs an emergency nerf before more players start picking it up.

[eager vine]

You LOST rank after that?! Wtf

[modern spindle]

the forced TA for new players is not that great

[gloomy cave]

Wow they truly fucked the game

[cyan fern]

Lmao

[slow condor]

PLEASE AD A NEW MAP QUE

[thick fiber]

Agreed, forcing new players to play TA before cashout is a HUGE mistake

[hollow breach]

can you guys make it so grabbing a mine on a door is easier. I opened the door like 500 times and couldn't pick up my mine in terminal attack

[keen siren]

C'mon... and you still lose points for this. This is exactly why I hate TA. Why after 3 seasons you still lose rank points for a man out? Seriously..

@safe magnet What's the point? The game crashes for most people that "leave" so you'd be penalizing them for something they should've fixed by now. There's no divider on losing with less teammates either which is completely silly. At least make it a lot less for the teammates that are doing the MOST work during the game.

I was a supporter, now I will NOT be buying anything from the store with money until these bugs are fixed...

[quick coyote]

PLEASE EMBARK. Terminal attack is outrageously bad, why remove your core gamemode from ranked, the right decision was to put terminal attack into world tour and keep cashout in ranked. Also the reasoning behind this change is horrendously stupid, why do you have to remove cashout from ranked in order to be able to work on it, just keep the current cashout in ranked and create a beta branch of cashout to work on to release in S4. Sorry to say but you absolutely lost me and many others in your dedicated player base which is all you had going for you.

[mint gazelle]

The duel katanas should have a skin
Drumsticks for a drum
Custom emote

[analog void]

why is report player and start a new game the same button on xbox?

[earnest fossil]

I want to say oen thign:
Overwatch sounds like a game I want my girlfriend to play with me
Apex sounds like a game I want my girlfriend to play with me
terminal Attack is NOT a game my girlfriend will want to play

If you guys want to make teh game causal, do THINK causal. TA not it

[twilit patrol]

uhuh

[tropic swift]

Obviously this is the first day of the season so people are still figuring stuff out. But in my opinion, TA in ranked was totally not the play, I gave it a try in hopes of being surprisingly fun, but the game's full potential does not come out of a copy of counter strike, but comes from the mode that you guys made just for The Finals.

The new weapons, I don't think, did a lot to the meta, I just hope that the meta right now will just change because it's tiring to fight against the same weapons. I want more diversity in weapon usage.

I will still play it just to experiment around but those are my first impressions. Love to embark ❤️

[atomic drum]

What can I say, emergency nerf lh1😂

[torpid quarry]

LH1 too easy to use, it was balanced just fine and now the ROF and firing animation are just... off putting. Plz revert all changes to this weapon. The firing animation feels like its from 20 years ago i want my gun back

[sleek edge]

can we get a mpa vote?

[ancient portal]

Nuh uh

[safe magnet]

Make the punishment heavier on people who leave a ranked match purposefully to grief.

[stone hazel]

constant hitreg issues, grav cube still never goes where im aiming, and i cant use my reserve loadout mid-game in world tour (is this intended behavior because if so it's really really dumb)

[ivory quail]

Got my friend to play this game but he has to play 5 TA games AND only can play as medium? horrible decision.

[jagged cedar]

The revolver has a slower firerate (to my knowledge), has 1/5 of the ammo as the lh1, very harsh damage dropoff, and a punishing reload. To kill a light with body shots you need to hit 50% of the mag whereas to kill a light with lh1 it is 20%, not to mention the lh1 reload is also faster.

@quick coyote

[cold forum]

L update for comp

[buoyant mountain]

ta should not be the intro game and you should only punish thoose who leave on purpose. otherwise there no point in rejoining

[violet wing]

balance in powershift is atrocious right now

[steel shale]

TA is so toxic players that play it wish death threats upon everyone else it’s not even worth playing even if it was fun

[balmy pewter]

add a hood down or up option for certain clothes

[slender pine]

+1 vote for getting rid of TA ranked

[quasi pewter]

Embark the preview video for glitch trap is outdated

[molten trail]

rpg 140 dmg 🤡 charge 130 dmg 🤡 medium turret aimbots u 0 skill 🤡 defib spamming 🤡

[hardy token]

This is entirely my opinion. I need to get this off my chest
The Finals is genuinely one of, if not my favorite fps ever since it came out. I loved cashout because it was different. I didn't like playing games like cs and valorant and rainbow because they all felt very similar and the gameplay style was not my thing. Apex was difficult to play, and overwatch is very toxic and unenjoyable to play without a team. Again, I can't emphasize enough that I loved the finals because it was different. Now that the ranked mode is just like any other game whose competitive scene is something I don't enjoy and I guess it sums up that you can't get everything you really want in the world! I still love cashout and will play it in world tour but for the love of everything PLEASE get rid of terminal attack as ranked.

[topaz bloom]

Please revert TA to the event version. It was much more fun than this competitive version. If I wanted to play a competitive S&D I would play Rainbow Six. I loved TA becuasw it was fun and unique. Making throws while zipping past felt great. And deciding whether to throw mines or push on defense was a nice change of pace. I don’t care if you remove or add a secondary ranked mode as long as I get OG Terminal Attack

[gloomy merlin]

TA ranked is stupid. Full of leavers and you still have to play the round out and it hurts your MMR? Fix this please.

[thorny parcel]

Rpg is awful to use and fight. Remove the multiplier on the splash damage plus greatly nerf it's damage

[sweet knoll]

Embark I love yall and this game. Some actual constructive feedback: if TA for ranked is hurting the game, PLEASE consider a 5v5 cash out tournament for ranked. Keeps your identity, has room for roles, competitive but not slow or hardcore, keeps revives and healing, all upsides

[mossy tinsel]

New players are required to play TA for 5 matches.
I think it's a terrible decision.

It's a completely different mode than what we're used to.

I think Quick Cache is a much better mode than TA for new players to get acclimated and excited about the game.

[echo radish]

Forcing new player to play TA is not a good idea. This is just shooting yourself embark please...

[tough anchor]

No feedback. Just know your secret isn't safe. I will find out the flavor of OSPUZE, even if it's the last thing I ever do.

[blazing hawk]

On the crashing thing you mentioned, I was playing with a friend, and the game kept crashing with new error codes each time to the point it would say "joined" "joined VC" "Disconnected" withing 5 seconds, I ended up throwing cause I was laughing so hard at the game

[quick coyote]

Might be a feature.. but the spear moves cashout station? Whyyy lmao 🤣

[rare summit]

Bring back the old rank mode!! I don't like like Terminal Attack mode

[remote citrus]

TA is incredibly slow. snipers on kyoto just hiding and wasting time. Defenders running around to hunt them. People not picking up the key. Cashout atleast encouraged players to go to the objectives

[rancid cloud]

Thanks for implementing Ruby rank! Now I’ll know what matches to quit when I see Ruby weapons in my lobby. 😊

[mellow bridge]

everyone keeps leaving the match if they lose in TA. I love the mode but can't stand when teammates leave in ranked.

[dawn forge]

guys what on earth were we thinking adding winch claw to the game

[frail wave]

Born to play Cashout, Forced to play Terminal Attack. At least here's some fixes you can do to make it better.
Imagine if Riot Games removed Summoner's Rift Ranked and replaced it with ARAM Ranked

HOW TO FIX TERMINAL ATTACK

• Prep phase is too long, there's nothing to prep, not a big deal, but minimum, in a 13 round match, you're expected to stay still for ~6.5 minutes
• Voiceline Alerts needed if Key isn't picked up, "We forgot the Decryption key",
• Decryption Key should NOT be a carriable item, instead should be a status, you either have the key or not. Press G to drop. A decrpytion key viewmodel + planting key animations would be cool too.
• Terminal shouldn't make any noise while planting OR disabling, you can't fake a steal. There should be an initial beep and that's it. As much as I wish it was, this isn't cashout.
• No reduced loss if a teammate goes AFK, still? Seriously?
• These maps are way too big and not made for Terminal Attack, most of the map isn't explored, maybe make smaller versions of the bigger map, which will allow the half time reconstruction phase to complete faster?
• An economy would make the game more interesting, defuse kits, buy ur gadgets, buy ur special, buy armor. Don't think guns should be sold, unless guns were reworked (i.e more guns) Maybe you could buy ammo for ur gun instead? Cash rewards for killing, planting, etc.
• The guardian turret is too OP for this mode. The turret should have certain ammo, i.e 30/30, after shooting 30 bullets, the turret reloads itself, or maybe the owner must reload it manually. I prefer the first option.
• When you die, your trophy drops, and you can be revived. There are no Respawn Tokens, and you must be revived by a teammate. UNTIL THE DECRPYTION KEY IS PLANTED After the key is planted, all trophies are destroyed and respawns are disabled.
• Bring the healing beam and defib back, as buyable items. The healing beam may only heal white health.
• Add 5 different colors to be randomly assigned to a player on a team. These colors can be used to identify a teammate and pings. So when you ping an enemy or anything, your color is also on the ping.
• You copied CS2 and VALORANT and didn't even make the announcers say "ACE" when someone aces?

HOW TO FIX CASHOUT

• When you wipe an enemy team, you gain 30 percent of their lost money
• When holding cashout, @ 25 % Completion gain $2.5k, @ 75 % Completion gain $2.5k, @ Cashout Completion gain $5k, 3 Split rewards for one cashout. (overwatch capture point basically)
• Spawns should be fixed, 3 v 3 at first vault, both teams should spawn at an equal distance to the vault, nobody should spawn with a Tempo Advantage
• Charge N' Slam nerf
  * Light regen hp faster Embark did this one in S3
• Higher cash reward for kills
• No premade teammates in Diamond 2+ Emerald 2+, since Embark confirmeed Ruby is Top 500, ladder rank should be based on individual skill rather than who stacks/plays more

[warm compass]

remove Terminal attack from the game

[quick coyote]

Bring back regular Cashout. World Tour is abhorrent and extremely unfun to play.

• penalized by teammates leaving.
• penalized by bad teammates.
• no loadout switching between respawns.
• penalized by winning (you are forced to play more)
• penalized by losing.
• penalized by quitting.

I want to play a game not sweat 24/7, bring back regular Cashout as it was before.

[shy swan]

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[untold haven]

the spear right click makes the powershift platform spasm violently

the thermal bore hitbox for damaging players is wildly inconsistent

TA is not it, the changes are nice but the one life mode encourages majorly passive gameplay and sniping, it feels slow and not great and forcing new players to sit through 5 matches before they can even queue for quick cash is an insane decision

overall the additions are nice, but please just consider piggy's cashout fixes and swapping over

[ivory quail]

"Game will be cancelled in 2 minutes due to leaver" Has to be the dumbest thing I've seen in a game. What's even the point of that?

[dusk vault]

hello i`ll give you a lots of ґроші(money) if you will make function for making demo-version of skin without having items (like in dota2)

[keen skiff]

s3 is pretty good, although it would be nice to play on the new map more than an average of once every 15 times (not exaggerating)

[lilac mango]

Getting winched by an enemy heavy and dying while specialization is on cooldown makes you unable to use specialization until the end of the game

[civic wing]

TA it’s solid but it doesn’t play well with what the game is with different characters having different health bars and abilities plus 7 rounds make it incredibly slow I get the vision embark but the many outweighs the few and people do not like it very good season do keep it up

[lyric junco]

2 out of 8 quals against clear hacks lol... love it...

[regal raft]

+++ pls add the possibility to pick ur full look in shop. Like in dota 2, so when u leave "headwear" page its not took off your previous choise

[granite frost]

I think you got some things mixed up embark, with the priorities of existing and new players and potentially with what players want with ranked/world tour.

Its clear that TA isn’t working at the moment - you have sidelined your core gamemode (Cashout) to improve on it, fair enough, but you have now forced a gamemode that simply doesn’t agree with the core game mechanics or the majority of its playerbase. Stop prioritising it before you lose your core playerbase and kill the games identity.

__THE EASIEST SOLUTION (FOR NOW):__
Change Ranked back to Cashout. Make a spin where CNS hacked the system or something to justify it.

Change the current world tour to comp TA
This still gives a platform for comp TA to be played and tested. But remains as a side gamemkde, rather than the core ranked mode as it should be. Listen to your playerbase as you have done, TA is boring yes, but it’s still just isn’t what the finals is all about. Like many have said before me, Cashout is the finale’ identity, not some scrappy S&D clone.

[autumn portal]

bru whys is trhe starter pack money now and not multibucks

[sturdy rock]

1. Forcing new players to play TA is an absolutely awful idea. If i was a new player trying out the game for the first time - I would NEVER play it again. Nothing about this game mode says "The Finals". I started playing this game because I didn't want to play CS2 or any of the other 5v5 SND competitive games out there. The Finals was a breath of fresh air with how rounds were played out and how fast paced it was once you get the movement down. TA has NONE of that, it's an absolute snooze fest.

1a. People are just toxic thinking they're playing R6 or something... A lot of people still treat this as some sort of TDM and just toss the key to the other side of the map and I'm usually the only person making an effort to go fetch it so we can actually play the objective and not just hunting people down.

1b. If this is going to be the ranked mode now, do something about leavers then. It's nice that teams that aren't full makes the game end with no punishment, but what about people that just leave mid match? I'm forced to play at a disadvantage and still get punished at the end of the match because we lose the same amount of RS as if we were a full team. (Correct me if I'm wrong on this)

1c. Some maps are just NOT okay for TA. I feel like just because Kyoto is the new map, that's ALL i've been playing on TA.... and Kyoto just ain't it. There's so much freaking bamboo everywhere that just hiding in it is a viable enough strategy for many players. Combine that with the weird lighting of the game and you get enemies that are almost impossible to see.

1d. Forcing people to not use heal/defib/other such items is a huge L. You're limiting your own game instead of working around it.

2. World Tour is ok, it feels kinda like ranked cashout, with the only problem being that PEOPLE DON'T TAKE IT SERIOUSLY. There's 0 strategy and all rush the cashbox without thinking. People don't come back to revive you, they don't care about the vaults, etc.

[cerulean dust]

dont forget that half the time people are leaving the match so that their friends can get the requirement done faster

[odd pond]

Why can I still not choose the teams in a private match?

[zealous walrus]

I wish there was a more official ranked cashout again. I was under the impression we'd be getting terminal attack ranked as a secondary option to ranked for those who enjoy that mode more. Unfortunately I am not one of those people. It is not fun and limits a lot of fun playstyles people like to do. I don't think terminal attack fits the world of the finals and is a rough interpretation of valorant/cs that is fun as a secondary mode if people want it, but I don't think it's THE mode for the finals. Cashout is and always will be the finals main moneymaker and mode, please bring it back as a ranked option.

[fringe burrow]

Hey I think my missions bugged out weirdly, so I just logged for s3 to play my first matches and it says my rookie circuit was already completed despite me playing nothing yet, is this a bug? It appears it gave me the charm but not the multibucks or VRs since I was capped before

[mild gust]

yeah they should’ve added this a LONG time ago

[wheat frigate]

I have literally come across NO ONE that likes the new ranked TA. THIS IS CRAZY.......

[stoic cradle]

This new season feels awful

[twilit patrol]

TA is fine and can co-exist in the game along with the other gamemodes but the focus needs to be on the CASHOUT. That is what makes The Finals THE FINALS. We got NOT a tactical shooter here and we are focusing on tactical gameplay by the time there is nothing "tactical".

I do not understand why are we trying to make lemonade with oranges and how these choices are being made. I feel that the team is very connected and detatched from the community at the same time.

[novel crow]

TA Ranked sucks

[topaz bloom]

As someone who loved the event TA, this new ranked TA version sucks. Way too slow. Why have a prep time when all I do is a throw a mine or turret? Why remove throwing to plant and take away the fun? Give me old TA or give me death

[brittle dirge]

Bruh I don’t care how many times I get penalized for leaving a tournament but I’ll be dammed to stay in a match with slow teammates that will cost the match..

[somber helm]

lowkey a lil angry that when you are tazed you cant jump or use your ability (im malding inside)

[hazy sequoia]

We would like keyboard and mouse on playstation

[atomic sentinel]

I played The Final for close to 500 hours.
Thanks to playing with good team members, I finished all the placement and won every game.
But it's been a day since the season started and I don't want to take time out of the game on weekends anymore.
It was also difficult to gather three people from the community, but it is more difficult to collect five people after work, and the world tour is also not fun as users fall into TA.

[stoic swan]

please revert ranked back to tournament immediately or just make the world tour mode ranked please

[naive fulcrum]

i doubt this is intentional but it's really funny, anyways pls fix, bow doesn't believe in gravity

[next mortar]

Me neither. I had fun playing casual TA last season. But this sweaty ranked mode is so unfun and unbalanced. It's just toxic and needs to be removed. This is not at all how the devs imagined the mode would be played or how they intended the game to be played.

Season 3 CASHOUT is hands down my favorite experience since launch. Balance is better and theres more to unlock now! Just need a ranked mode to grind and really sink hours into. Miss cashout already and it's only day one.

[bleak plaza]

please bring back cashout ranked

[slate latch]

really good season 3 start BUT I feel like everything at this point just shreads due to buff. Light finally becoming more playable than before which is good but then again I feel like as soon as you're on sight you're dead before you know it. I don't really know how to balance this but it just feels like everything melts

[rough imp]

remove invis

[tardy orchid]

If I get stuck in a loading screen one more time before a ranked match I will be deleting this game.

[round bloom]

Terminal attack is miserable to play 😭

[molten trail]

rpg 140 dmg 🤡 charge 130 dmg 🤡 medium turret aimbots u 0 skill 🤡 defib spamming 🤡

[violet wing]

So, season 3 is a jungle mayem with bows, throwing knives and spear basically. Boy, season 3 is a massive disappointment

[surreal kestrel]

Weapon stats in its description should be in numbers instead of a simple Bar that doesn't tell me anything, I read M60 has 19 dmg per bullet in the patch notes but I can't go ingame and compare numbers with other weapons making available data only what we read in patch notes eg: I can't compare how M60 compares now to lewis, etc.

[indigo fjord]

please bring cashout ranked!!!!!

[ocean mason]

I understand pushing the tactical shooter angle to draw an audience from the CS, R6, and Valorant crowd. But I think TA ain’t quite there. If you wanted to bring a more competitive, tactical angle- bring some of the TA features to cashout. For casual, make it two teams of 5, unlimited respawn, competing for cashout. For ranked, give an allotted amount of respawn tokens to add a little bit of suspense

[safe mountain]

Currently the play again and report button are the same on console, forcing the main menu to re=queue

[white owl]

Yes I was confused by this to but if you hit continue then you can hit play again without going back to main menu

[shy drum]

EMBARK, make the DUAL BLADES WORK, they're super inconsistent at reflecting bullets and the damage is nothing compared to the other melees.

[versed cloud]

Every ranked TA feels incredibly one sided either we are stomping the enemies teeth in or we are getting pushed into oblivion every single round.

[final gust]

One of the big issues with TA ranked -- it's much easier to defend than it is to attack. The defending team has 7 rounds in a row to build a huge headstart in points.

By the time you swap sides. It's 5-2 or 6-1. Then the new attacking team only needs 1-2 wins to finish the game.

Meanwhile the losing team is so annoyed.. they just afk or drop out of the match. Making it even easier for the winning team to finish off the last 1-2 matches.

---

I play 3 TA games, and each time the starting Defending team won by a massive amount.

--
And of course cashout is the main "the finals" game mode. It should remain the focus for ranked.

TA is a fun quick mode to play on the side. Just like power shift and bank it.

[rose snow]

93R still has a slow ttk, damn. I really thought it would feel good this time around

[fierce elk]

I've worked in the game industry for a decade. Here's why the shift to TA stinks of Nexon influence.

I've worked in games for about ten years, both at Bungie under Activision, and then at another large company that had elements of oversight (not exactly this, but think about studios under MS). My role involved marketing, planning, and forecasting. The dramatic and rapid change to Terminal Attack as the "core" mode of the game is, to me, absolutely indicative of corporate meddling by Nexon, similar to what I have seen repeatedly in my own career. Here's why:

1. The claim that this was a data-driven decision. It is fairly obvious that there was no lasting increase in engagement, streaming, posts, or positive sentiment by the timed release of TA in May. It is hard to imagine a piece of in-game data that supports moving the core game mode away from Cashout to TA.
2. Lack of community support. Embark has pretty clearly always been very engaged with the community in a positive way. The game often has been updated as a result of community feedback, often in several weeks. I'm sure those decisions are also data-driven with internal metrics. But there was very little, if any, people calling for TA to be the main ranked mode (and the mode that players are forced into when starting the game now!).
3. Logic. If this was something potentially in the works for any sort of real time, why would there be a new map created specifically for the cash out mode? Why would we have new gadgets and features that don't play particularly well in TA?
4. (3a) Short-term thinking. Let me surmise what happened here, having seen it happen in my own career. Nexon looks at the player numbers, and they are constant but not growing (as noted in their quarterly report, they were disappointed by the S2 engagement numbers). They refuse to continue to support Embark unless Embark has something dramatically new they can plug into player growth expectations; afterall, Nexon owns a majority of Embark. Embark knows it is dead without Nexon's support. Nexon looks at the comp revenue and MAU from other 5v5 games and says, "hey, just make a 5v5 mode, that's where all the money is! just look at valorant/CS/Overwatch/etc". This is what happens when the larger company only looks at things through monetary lenses with a short-term view.
5. Lack of autonomy. If TA truly would end up as the premier mode because it's the most preferred, simply leave it up as a separate mode and let the data prove that. Or, add it as a secondary ranked mode (I understand the matchmaking concerns, but in a world where this is successful, it shouldn't be that bad). And no, World Tour is not the answer. World tour is a not a skill-based progression mode, it's a time-investment based mode. If you're a casual player, that's maybe fine, but for me this ends up more frustrating as people take it less seriously. I don't find it enjoyable to be playing cashout with intent, and then since it's not ranked people aren't playing as strategically. Also, a likely lack of SBMM will make this frustrating for everyone involved (and if there is SBMM, why not just make it ranked?).

Ultimately, to me, the only reason it makes sense to make TA the main mode is if Nexon is using TA as a last-ditch effort to see if this would increase MAU/engagement, before cutting bait on supporting the game (and potentially Embark as a whole).

Not trying to be dramatic, but I have seen this happen over and over in my career (often with unreleased games, but I certainly have seen it a few times in live-service pivots as well). I cannot think of one time - for any game - where they pivoted from their core focus and it ended up well. I don't blame Embark at all; I actually feel quite bad for them as their "baby" is being destroyed by Nexon's short term goals.

Thanks for coming to my TED talk. I personally will not be playing S3 at all until if & when the core game mode goes back to being cashout.

[smoky folio]

Getting rid of ranked and quickplay cashout was an incredibly brazen decision that should have been more carefully considered. I don’t think it would have been too far of a stretch to place TA alongside standard cashout in ranked and let players select between them, with their own independent Elo. In fact this is so obvious that I assumed it was what you were going to do before I looked at the patch notes.

I have over 300 in-match hours in The Finals and 90% of that is in 4-team cashout. It feels like a slap in the face as an engrossed player to not have such a quintessential mode be available outside of anything except for the new World Tour system. I can’t imagine this is too difficult of a fix considering the amazing amount of work that you all put into the game, and I’m sure it would please many to be able to queue cashout with a ranked Elo associated (or in a casual group with some friends).

I respect your decision to elevate TA to the status of cashout in terms of focus and developer attention, but superseding it feels wrong and disloyal to the game’s strong prior sense of identity. It does not help that new players are likely to be offput by the forced Terminal Attack restriction (TA is IMO janky and not very fun--I still respect its inclusion in the game, but to a new player trying it out for the first time I can see it being offputting or frustrating).

Based on the response S3 is getting in this Discord, it seems like the community writ large would be happy to see these old gamemodes return in their traditional forms. Embark, you are genuinely a great development team and have produced one of the most excellent FPS games in recent memory. Moments like these prove that relatively minor decisions can completely turn the tide of opinion within the community, but that's just because we are avid fans and excited to see where this thing goes. We are all looking forward to what you have in store for The Finals and cashout should continue to take pride of place in that lineup. Keep drinking OSPUZE.

[swift laurel]

email skin codes that not everyone gets is an L

[nimble anvil]

i know your alls day has probably been not what you expecting/hoped for, Embark. Just want to throw some love your way to help hopefully. I think you have done a great job in the new season, and I have faith you will fix the current dilemma. Thank you for continuing to support this game.

[fallen ether]

it's coming out in waves, they aren't going to send it to everyone the moment it drops. ever heard of the word called ''patience''?

[hardy bridge]

if you guys continue bitching about light embark is gonna nuke the shit out of light again

[iron coyote]

TA makes me sad and cashout makes me happy simple as. Also m60 is a peashooter now

[plain patio]

the only opinion i have on light rn is that the bow should never have been a light weapon. should be medium weapon

[jovial jetty]

good

[ember maple]

The platform in powershift is lurching forward about 5-10 meters at a time and generally is very glitchy

[cursive bolt]

I agreeed i just did my first game and i don't want to play again, i left last season P3

[frail wave]

true as fuck thank u
the whole terminal attack change feels like embark was forced to do it

[chilly gorge]

PLEASE Bring back cashout, its the games identity and no one wants another 5v5 search and destroy as the main ranked mode. We at least want the option to play a ranked cashout.

[trim lagoon]

fr please add comp cashout and keep the tryhards out of my casual games ty :D

[modest quest]

dang,, everyone wants cashout ranked backagain, and i love it

[remote citrus]

Appreciate this post, did not know Nexon owned owned them, i thought it was just a publisher. This makes total sense if thats the case

[violet matrix]

Kyoto is beautiful, it is pure art, seriously congratulations to the designers of this map, it truly is beautiful, I hope they continue like this and many more people play THE FINALS

[eternal aspen]

i dont have anything to say other than termimnal attack is blah and it being ranked is blah and IT FORCING NEW PLAYERS TO PALY IT BEFORE ANYTHING ELSE IS INSANE lmao i hate it. i feel like this is a bad idea

[jagged cradle]

@devs... Please note that the game has issues at times when you are loading up for matches, the audio cues that the game has started and what not but you're still cycling the loading screen... With no alternative you're forces to quit the game and well, upon logging back... The suspension is in effect.

I know the new updates has a lot to iron out but it s a really bummer 😭

Additional note.. I'm playing from Nepal, internet speed and latency is good. This issue has come up before too in season 2, where game loads and starts but you're still stuck in an endless loading, hearing all game events and pings

[delicate marlin]

game crashed like twice within 30 mins

[idle geyser]

First to 7 doesn't work competitively without having to win by 2 rounds

Every tactical shooter has it that you have to win by 2 rounds for a reason. As is Vegas is a good example where defense is HEAVILY favored. If you get defense ìn the final round you basically get the win. It should be that if you get defense first then you play another round on attack. This gives both teams one more chance to attack and defend. If both teams defend you go again till someone wins by 2 rounds, meaning you have to win attack and defense to win. You add an option for everyone to surrender on both teams and require a majority rule, lowering the amount of people needed to surrender until it goes down to 1 player after like 2-3 extra rotations.

[rough vessel]

hello the finals ! how terminal attack can that bad... Can we make a petition to change it quickly ?? it's literally disgusting, not fair, and just not fun, your game was good you made it rubbish for no reason too bad for you.. less people who like your games less than people who pay for clothes.

[little shell]

Forcing new players to play TA for 5 rounds before being able to play quick play is a terrible decision. I LIKE Terminal Attack and I do play it all the time with my friends but I know that if that was the mode I was introduced to as a new player I would not have continued playing The Finals. It does not have the uniqueness and "grab" factor that cashout modes have. This has nothing to do with it being the ranked mode. As the mode that players are first introduced to its jarring seeing the marketing material of high octane wild gameplay and then coming in and being forced to play 5 games of terminal Attack which has almost nothing in common with cashout or quick cash.

[dull compass]

Please put Terminal Attack to the way it was

[orchid olive]

I love the Finals and appreciate all the hard work Embark has done and continues to do. However, please consider returning the cashout ranked mode. It significantly enhances the competitive experience for many players, including myself. Competitive players like me, my friends, and many others thrive on its challenge. With cashout as ranked, we had to strategize, adapt to constantly changing scenarios, and carefully weigh our decisions and risks, and so much more. Terminal attack as ranked feels like a lesser version of what the Finals is truly about. This mode is what makes the Finals unique and special.

[rancid cloud]

Please make the bow less fun to use so I don’t die to it as often

[drifting star]

true, i LOVE having it be this way, makes it super intense. IRL games and video games alike, winning by two is always a good idea

[next mortar]

The Duel Katanas are SUPER SICK and Fun, but it would be nice if the deflect covered more. You're super vulnerable to damage while deflecting as it is, it'd be nice to more consistently reflect bullets at least from your front side.

[quick coyote]

a mode i've been wanting since season 1.. i really hope you guys add a locked role mode for quick cash, cash out and maybe even power shift and terminal in future seasons. for example in quick cash or cash out each time has only 1L/1M/1H. a non-locked and locked role mode. there's beauty in not having locked roles, but honestly it's also frustrating imo. every time i comment about this anywhere online, people are always like instantly no. while i do understand it will have its cons, maybe longer queue times etc especially since this game already doesn't have a lot of players in total (compare it to other live service games like OW2, Fortnite). i think it will also benefit the game, many players, and especially newcomers to the finals. i can write more about why i hope for this mode. honestly i just always think about it each season

I haven't played the game since cashout rank was removed. bring it back.

[primal musk]

I appreciate all who have made longer posts on here than myself. As an avid lover of this game, I have been very impressed with the Dev team but I really hope they hear these cries of the community.

Terminal attack was fun for a few challenges as event game mode but that is all that is all at best! This is not R6Siege.

4 team cash out was incredible and the first time in 10 years have I felt like there was finally a not good but GREAT competitive FPS game. I was floored when I logged on today to realize that Terminal Attack is the only ranked outlet. What a disappointment.

I really hope the development team can take some feed back before its too late and this kills off the already smaller community.

[tribal vortex]

Why was cashout removed??????? Please bring it back

[molten trail]

buff rpg damage to 350 🤡 buff charge damage to 350 🤡 give heavies a tactical nuke as a gadget 🤡 plz listen to me embark i only average 400 dmg a game with the gun 😦

[wheat frigate]

Would you look at that Finals player count didn't peak as high as Season 2 bump and immediately right back down...... I WONDER WHY HMMMMMM........🧐 We lose Rank Cash out to pull in 10k more players temporarily smh 😤

[glacial geyser]

This is what I'm hoping they test first on world tour.
1L/1M/1H would stop the main complain about heavies - having two of them
I really want to see how the balance of each class feels when you can only have one

Also, to reply to @tulip wagon
Are you asking why people who specifically joined a discord for a game they love are complaining about that game in order to make it better?
Why are you here on this discord? Go play The Finals...

[tulip wagon]

so funny people are here complaning, like bro just go play something else

[ivory quail]

Horrible take

[quick coyote]

Is it that bad again?

[earnest badge]

This is the most intelligent post I have seen in here. Really hope the data shows this isn't what we want. But, at the same time we were getting matches on Oceania servers way faster/at all playing TA last night compared to the previous ranked format. So, maybe it is going to bring more players in or something. But tbh, I also think there should be both rigbt? I liked the cashout tournaments..

[magic yew]

not sure what it is or why it happens but my team colours are gone, its just blue for us and red for every other team, no colorblind settings on or anything and only happened since TA, fix would help heaps, thanks

[wind gulch]

TA as "the ranked" is fine, I'm loving World Tour's cashout tournaments just as much as the previous tournaments. But the new player experience should not be locked to TA. Spectator cam is the worst possible way to get your first impressions.

[drifting thistle]

implement headshot damage for shotgun thanks. This is only one of the fps game without headshot damage in shotgun

[mint helm]

It would be dope if you guys could do a colab with regular show where you did skips as a heavy, mordecai as a medium, and rigby as a light the would be too good try to get this to the to brass and make it happen

[glossy wigeon]

This game has become so terrible to play as light. I was hoping this season much needed changes would come. Clearly i was wrong.

[untold cypress]

This game is so fun to play as light I'm so happy for the changes made

[half owl]

New player MUST play TA 5 rounds? WHAT HAPPENING EMBARK!!! PLS....
They are leaving before they get to have fun.
It's not about i don't like ta mode

[naive yarrow]

This is the worst season to ever exist as a light, cause after three seasons of having to deal with being obliterated by heavies, we now get obliterated by lights too

so 2/3 classes can one shot us with no skill requirement now? new bow to play with and i cant even enjoy it because there was a db light behind me that just instakills me? i cant react? rpg is more balanced than that

embark, i really hope yall do sort this out but after three seasons of light constantly getting shat on theres no way i can have faith in yall

[slender yoke]

terminal attack is a miserable game mode to play, i had wanted to save my judgement until after id given it a go but it is just awful

[lean urchin]

this has been the most boring experience in any ranked game ive ever played!!!

[worn horizon]

The burning part from the thermal bore doesnt work most of the time, its probably meant to burn you and other players when you get near the fire but it doesnt in most cases. please fix this

[plain kiln]

I enjoy TA more then i thought i would, im sure a silent majority would agree

[violet wing]

I would rather have s2's "broken" ranked cashout while they work on their upgraded system than Terminal attack. And I'm not even talking about the catastrophic balance issues we'll have to deal with because of their latest weapons and changes. I love that game but after trying S3, I have to say... the complaints are justified, this was just not the move.

[echo radish]

The real problem is, Embark didn't consider any of twist, not like PowerShift and there's the problem coming out. Power shift is just a push the cart mode but reinterpretion to fit in the finals gamestyle. But we can't see any of change TA special from any other csgo or valorant or r6. Even Valorant reinterpreted gamestyle to have a role for good new player experience. Where are those thing? Where is the charming point of Terminal Attack special from other games? Terminal attack is just mindless copy and paste and I don't like it. Like, it's like csgo but you can respawn 1 more time can make much chaos in the game and that will be special point than others. Not seeing any of this make me infuriating because you guys didn't act like this.

[eager vine]

I agree. Don't buff it too much but just some more.
Btw I love your videos man please keep going 🔥😘

[short rock]

hey uh wtf

[quick coyote]

new players need to play TA before unlocking other modes...?

[warped dock]

I think there is a bug with the cash box. Could be wrong if there was a shadow update to it. But once an enemy team opens a vault and grabs it, the indicator telling where the cash box is, it disappears. Until they either let go of it or until it’s in the cash out.

[drowsy spruce]

I will be quitting the finals due to the recent ranked game mode swap. If I wanted to play cs-go I would.

[dreamy gull]

Where is option to change player card background? Why am I not seeing it easily accessible?

[granite gale]

Terminal Attack seem like a good game mode for more of a traditional fps feel maybe instead of making it one life and that's it, add the respawn feature like the other game mode

[burnt shale]

EMBARK all you gotta do is bring ranked cash out back. Why not 2 ranked modes?

[ivory quail]

5 games yeah

[woeful arch]

Loving, from season 3:

• the final scoreboard images and extra deets, helps to see the account level of teammates and understand better what happened whether win or loss
• text chat has been super helpful so far in unranked TA, teammates are healthy and supportive and full of "gg" and "nice try" it's so good
• the warmup zone is fun we can spam stuff and destroy the environment just for fun, yay for stress relief destruction before focus teamwork time, nicely done

Things that are meh:

• the patch notes mention that there'll be a log message for teammates dying near a specific point but I haven't seen that, need to pay more attention I guess

[wanton anchor]

Agree powershift should have a twist, one idea I had was let it be a 5v5v5 and the platform always moves and as the game gets closer to ending. The platform moves faster and faster and occasionally moves random too. And how to get points would be how long you stay on the platform and how many of your team is on it. Like one teammate equals 100 points while two equal 200 points and so on.

[quick coyote]

yeah, world tour will have locked loadouts right? maybe it's possible for a locked role (maybe LTM first to see how it is) to happen someday, let's hope! it likely won't solve everything but still i honestly think it will help the game and many players in general. despite this game's flaws i do like it and have experienced fun and cool moments, it can just be so frustrating too and this non-locked roles/classes thing is pretty my main complaint since s1 lol. i'm glad i'm not only who feels this way!

[glacial geyser]

I certainly won't be playing The Finals when the locked loadouts are enforced...
But if they do a test for locked roles, that's something I would happily try out.

And, if this did turn out as a beneficial move, I assume they would implement it for ranked only - allowing the casual games to stack roles however they please.

But I imagine they would have an easier time balancing all the classes if they don't have to worry about double or triple of the same

[rare rock]

quick piece of feedback

if there's a leaver at any point during terminal attack, the game should be forfeited for transparency and fairness and not count to either team's rank

theres nothing worse than having to play one man down in your team

[ebon hemlock]

Thank you whoever is in charge of this seasons rollout.
I will no longer be playing this game and switching back to Valorant. It has been so long since I liked a game as much as The Finals... and as usual it is ruined by the decisions (whether dev or executive) ur welcome for all my money and time. Only request: At least take me to dinner first before fkng me 🙂

[half owl]

Maybe Embark wanna kill new player. 😏
Core player hate TA Rank ➡️ Don't play rank, go casual to kill new player.
Make New player must play TA 5 Rounds ➡️ They quit before they get to have fun.

[spiral hemlock]

love this seasons soundtrack

[outer lion]

Please reduce the rounds from 13 to 9. Games take way too long imo

[worn horizon]

please fix the unreliable burning part from The new gadget ""Thermal Bore"", here a video that it does NOT burn when it should burn. i think thats an important factor that needs to be in the next patch.

[glad delta]

ah yeah nerf the bow please

[viscid raft]

quality of life:
make it so zooming in the contestants menu is based on the scroll wheel, and not the previous item and next item binds.

[dim tangle]

text chat for console please we have keyboards over here

[tropic swift]

Bring back ranked cash out

[bleak prism]

Chef skin very nice, very happy. 😝

[floral dawn]

Why in actual fuck is there a penalty to other players to people who leave mid match

[queen cloud]

I really don't enjoy season 3.
New map looks cool but plays like shit. Too much visual clutter and weird angles.
The winch claw shouldn't exist
Game balance is still bad

[unreal otter]

Heavy is almost useless in TA, while it is literal heaven for lights. If embark wants this mode to be ranked they need to do something about it, I would suggest to make it so heavy can recover more of its hp, as well as medium. Light with 100, is the same as light with 150 hp, it is like 30% less than its full hp. Make it so heavy can recover like 275, and medium 175 or so.

[hallow spruce]

Please work on the changes ASAP <33, I really love the growth and I would love it to stay as much as it can, the game is great but it everyone (including big time streamers) is loving the uniqueness of cashout than terminal attack, also dont force the new players to play terminal attack. Fix bugs

• much love

[odd rapids]

what yall opinion on the new black cheetah level up skins? So many items start out as black and even though it is kinda shiny I think its not worth leveling for.

[rigid oxide]

why is everyone so negative?

besides the server loading this is a pretty awesome launch imo

there are weekly tasks for the grinders, season tasks for the phasers, hardcore games for the competitive

is everyone just dead set on complaining about change?

y'all are all wrong, these changes are healthy

[rugged temple]

Cuz they kinda gutted the core gamemode amd replaced it with a csgo knockoff

[quick coyote]

Buff m60

[snow anvil]

The Finals' strengths were freedom and speed, but it seems like those strengths are all dead in this rank.

[sacred siren]

cause its not fun for anyone. casuals have it all with this update but are forced to play WT with sweaty competitive cashout lover, competitive grinders that liked grinding cashout cant play that in a competitive setting anymore. sure there might be people that wanted a ranked TA mode, but having ONLY ranked TA doesnt scratch the itch for the majority of the playerbase, casual or competitive.
and not to mention that the TA is just slow and boring as fuck. people play finals for controlled chaos, not controlled boredom

[stone hazel]

whatever is going on with the fov/sensitivity on the bow feels awful
it feels like my sensitivity changes as i pull back the bow and makes aiming difficult for no reason it's fucking with my muscle memory

[tribal vortex]

cuz it wasn’t done very well sadly, the changes made are not for the better

[grand agate]

I have one frustration, and only one. Terrible teammates in placements caused me to rank silver. In my first silver game, I drop 20 (TWENTY, THAT IS NOT A TYPO) kills, and we STILL lose 7-5. I LOST RP. HOW AM I LOSING RP FOR THAT???

[dry kiln]

Queuing times for Bank IT are very long like 5 mins just to get in a game

[cold bolt]

all 3 new weapons feel like additions made to cater to casuals to "bridge the gap" with good players, they're funny, they're cool, but they're ultimately unhealthy for the game competitively

[pseudo surge]

TA is an L I tried it I played alot of it and simply put it is just not fun if I die I wait 2 mins to play again

[quick coyote]

i guess ill see you all in season 4.

[nocturne raven]

same here, absolutely loving the new season and changes.

Also love the new weapon/gadget icons in the bottom right while playing

New end-match UI with the gold text on the top stats is also incredibly satisfying

[trim lagoon]

why did they add the roadhog claw tho
light is powerful because of being able to choose your fights
this is the equivalent of adding a light weapon that scales with the target's health so much that you can oneshot heavies 😭

[daring fossil]

you guys really need to fix it so I can have space bound to respawn while also having it bound to ADS/secondary

[quick coyote]

Just had the enemy team kill themselves 4 times in a row in unranked terminal attack
Must be popular lmao

[peak pine]

TA is so trash

[molten trail]

give heavies a tactical nuke gadget fk it

[gusty atlas]

TA is a subpar ranked gamemode that caters towards five stacks and punishes those who do not play in five stacks. Most likely most of active finals players agree on this issue. The most obvious solution is to simply add the ranked tournament mode back into the game and let the players decide which ranked gamemode they would like to play.

[winged cargo]

LITERALLY TA IS GARBAGE THE WORST GAMEMODE EVER THIS SEASON IS HORRIBLE!!! https://gyazo.com/42b712d451e0bc58e656b0ef3fe3b4ec I HAVE 0 RS HOW IS THAT POSSIBLE TERMINAL ATTACK IS GARBAGE!!!!! I LITERALLY AM GOOD AT THE GAME THIS GAME IS GSTUEST AETUH

[novel mountain]

I was playing world tour with my friend and what we constantly seen was our random would run off and die, then waste their respawn coins and end up spectating the rest of the match.

We're not angry at him for technically throwing the game but more so felt bad that he was probably not having any fun at all, just sitting there waiting for us to wipe so he could play the game (which we rarely did wipe because we play together well)

So what i'm thinking now is if respawn tokens are actually that necessary for even ranked cash out.

If you were able to respawn as many times as you'd want, wiping players would still be somewhat possible, since most players tend to have enough respawn tokens to get least one person up in time.

Defending totems to force respawns only happen like once, even then, you have more than enough tokens where using up a single token isn't that big of a deal.

all in all, I think there could be an alternative to respawn tokens to prevent people from aping then insta respawning to ape once more. Its mroe of a hindernace for randoms than team players mostly

[austere vector]

Whoever thought this ranked change was a good idea , please fire them expeditiously

[rocky verge]

New util idea:
Displacement mine
Place two mines, when an opponent steps on one, everyone in the blast radius (or just the one dude), is teleported to the other mine. This destroys both mines.
Max distance of 20 meters

[fallow idol]

Bigger matches? id like to play with more then just 3 or 5 ppl who are friends

[misty brook]

Bro if you use the winch claw on somebody they can stun gun you while you pull them in it'll cancel the ability

[vernal swallow]

that’s intended, also wtf is that pfp

also embark this is like message 3 of asking to make it so I can order teams in private matches to play quick cash 1v1

[median warren]

I feel like people generally need to learn how to deal with adversity and change I think TA is a great feature to rank for season 3. The only problem I’m having with TA is the facts that someone like me who is very competitive can only play light because medium and heavy are horrible for TA. Having a five stack of lights with mad utility and LH1 will make people leave the game and not want to play tbh it’s kinda broken. Although light is the only good class the game mode itself is a great change for the competitive community I hope each season ranked changes game modes because it forces people to learn new skills and team tactics.

[lunar gulch]

I dont know if im missing something, but on PS5, the button to report a player and to play again are both triangle. So essentially i cant press play again, because it just asks if i want to report X player

[arctic hare]

Please make a Kyoto only playlist for casual!! Or weight the new map more heavily in the rotation. We've played the other maps a million times!

[royal moat]

i played TA all day with a few groups. TA is incredibly boring it feels like elo is non existent and ive played with multiple people who uninstalled the game from ranked being to boring, we were winning all day but even if we werent it still doesnt change how limited and boring the engagements feel in the new mode. It feels like im beating my head against a wall trying to give this a shot.

[rotund lagoon]

smaller map sizes for TA and changes for light (maybe only within TA, because in cashout it's pretty balanced) would definitely be good for the mode. personally i don't play or like TA because of those reasons

[quick coyote]

New music sounds a lot like s2 music. Though I just miss s1 music tbf.

[dense ember]

your just contradicting yourself

[plucky night]

Anyone else feel like the battle pass should have skins for more than just 4-5 weapons?

[analog oak]

WHY IS THE PLAY AGAIN BUTTON THE SAME AS THE REPORT BUTTON NOW ON XBOX

[hollow breach]

give charge and slam an audio cue please who thought it was a good idea for that shit to have no warning and u just get blind sided by it

[fierce elk]

Please add a option to rejoin the match After you leave in all game modes. +, if a player disconnects from a match, he can't join any other matches until the previous match ends. This will help a lot with our problem of people disconnecting when losing

[cunning gyro]

nerf LH1

[short oracle]

Improve TA, remove the middle loading screen
add more rounds
add economy, ppl choose only class on beginning, and then they have to buy stuff every round

[stoic wigeon]

tysm for the bow and an overall great season so far. kyoto is awesome. but catch me only playing tournaments

[left bluff]

Terminal Attack is still very half baked & should not of been made the only ranked mode. Especially given one of the main reasons it was added is because supposedly it's "easier to understand"; tell that to the people wandering aimlessly. SnD is typically easier to understand, because of other factors like the map being carefully crafted for it, etc.

Please stop self sabotaging the game. If Cashout ranked isn't brought back then I might not play until season 4. That is if there is even a game to come back to at this point with all these drastic changes without polling anybody. Especially so you can shun a mode & replace it with something you just recently put out. It's just ironic, cause there seems to be this thought removing them is best for a healthy playerbase in the modes you want to keep; when in reality that is what turns them away quicker I think.

I'd rather wait longer to queue for a mode I prefer opposed to not being able to queue for it at all.

[gleaming gust]

dual swords are super inconsistent me and a friend were testing them, sometimes someone can shoot right through block like 25% of the time. Blocking is good when both parties are standing still but when there is movement it just isnt reliable

[lament prism]

Can you please do something about heavys in the next patch? K was specting to se some changes on that but instead I feel its even more over tuned so please the charge and slam must be nerfed, the mesh shiel, the dome, the rpg

[tribal rampart]

I noticed this too, s2 bp had the defib skin and some nade skins which was fun, but this one is lacking and in general, we are missing skins for a lot of gadgets and specilizations..
Would love to see more of that again!
In store and battlepass, since limited skins can be really sad for players who join later, Unless there are other cool alternatives for them to use i guess...
But yeah... please add more unique cool and fun gadget/specilization skins! Ty

[quick coyote]

i feel the same with you about the locked loadouts, i think it's much better to still be able to freely have whatever loadout we want like right now even if it becomes a locked role mode. personally if it's permanently added, i hope it won't just for be for comp but quick cash too. i play that a lot. also think it's good for newcomers to experience. and yeah exactly, i'm not a game dev obviously but it seems that it might help them with balancing problems

[cyan vessel]

i think that for world tour and ranked even tho nobody gona play it they should ad your percentage in placment on the leaderbored like how they do in fortnite tourboments leaderbored

[glacial geyser]

The only reason I suggested it be a ranked-only change is because it adds complexity to the queue and matchmaking system.
Having to queue for a specific role isn't exactly a casual-friendly experience.

[hazy jewel]

Embark, you pretty much just lost every single sword player (me included) with the removal of gadget swap. Ive lost every bit of hope for this game. Adios amigos, and adios finals.

[high lynx]

5 heavies stacked on platform all running dome-mesh-flamethrower makes retake impossible, not with the current glitch grenade thats for sure

[mortal mauve]

I love this game but ranked needs to be switched back and or added to world tour. TA is simply just not as fun

[jade dragon]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1044290949544681482/1250776790008467506/caption.gif?ex=666cd4e9&is=666b8369&hm=99c5d83e74a555b35f7a2d46df2b6d9f593e152d7cbe359d88326e032c176060&=

[candid flower]

Laggy ass season bro

[still yoke]

Remove akm,fcar,lewis gun,m60 and xp54 from the game and bring them back next season id rather have a season where everyone trys new things

[severe obsidian]

^ no skill season

[quick coyote]

NERF RPG BUFF / REVERT M60

[tribal vortex]

Add cashout back to the regular modes please?

[boreal wagon]

yeah the ranked mode change was not it, gang.. not gonna play this season.. If I wanted SnD I'd play csgo or valorant idk

[pallid aspen]

Ikr

[bold plaza]

what was the thought process behind the 93r changes? how do u make one of the worst gun in the game worse?

[drowsy grove]

Ranked mode change is the best change! I've started playing again

[naive fulcrum]

revert changes on LH1, lowering the skill base for the weapon has made it far too powerful, lh1s before were powerful but it was rare to see because it required skill and time with the weapon to use effectively, now anyone can pick it up and stomp with it, which is a problem, i was just in a world tour match with two teams of triple lights running lh1 and another team with 2 lights running lh1, this isn't fun

[median warren]

For TA either nerf light or more specifically the LH1 or don’t nerf light and just give medium the heals.

[glossy scaffold]

frfr

[quick magnet]

Same button to play again and report on console

[scenic spade]

I love this game all my teammates disconect in world tour then when i go i get banned for 10 mins wtf

[regal mirage]

Yeah the game holds you hostage for no reason

[stone hazel]

after playing world tour all day, i dont like it
the only new thing to differentiate itself from ranked cashout in terms of gameplay is you cant swap your loadout between deaths
which is really stupid and unfun imo
i got washed every single match except for one where our teammate left so we had no chance of winning anyway
and i can feel already that im going to get sick of only three maps in rotation really quickly

[pseudo surge]

This game was my favorite FPS shooter to play in both casual and ranked I started playing Ranked more in season 2 just for it to be another copy and paste unbalanced search and destroy game mode. I now have to sit and wait 2-3 minutes if I die early on to some random bs that happened. (mostly snipers and lights) While I understand that they are more viable in this mode. Medium loses to 2 abilities. Heal beam and defib. and good luck If your on kyoto TA try not to die to snipers mission impossible. For those of you who say Cashout has no skill expression with 3rd parties existing there is. Managing a 3rd party is with in itself a skill. Cashout you had to actually use your brain between macro and micro strategies. Such as how much money do you have and it actually forced you to play objectively rather then for kills. other strats such as am I okay to team wipe here. I think that cashout had much more hype moments as well. Just a massive L to see the game where it is. World tour is fun but its just unranked cashout tournament and for those who say it is ranked it is rendered pointless when every player one does not lose or have a consequence for losing and when everyone can eventually be top rank, Oh and one last thing they have made it even harder to have teamates that communicate. with this said I will see you all next season as I do not want to play ranked in its current state.

[plucky tiger]

Winch claw range is absurd. So is it's cooldown. I was winched on the roof from ground level on skyway.

[sullen dragon]

@thefinals just saying... I think this battle pass level 32's cape should have been a separate upper back piece.. HUGE missed opportunity. This would have been top teir..

[analog oak]

I have to press A to move on the xp screen and then press y to play again, so inconvenient, rb was fine

[mild zealot]

anyone else really disappointed with the dual blades damage output?

[teal minnow]

I love S3 so far. Weapons are all good ,they mix up the meta a bit.

[graceful fractal]

The lh1 is definitely pretty good but I swear it’s got some time of visual glitch when you’re firing it

[daring fossil]

there needs to be some sort of hit marker when your shots are being deflected by the dual swords

[tropic cypress]

cashout > TA

[wet dew]

Too many rounds in TA I feel like

[versed cloud]

Literally don't care about ranked anymore because of TA. Why would I want diamond in that game type? What does that do for me? It's just the same old shit

[idle geyser]

wtf is this ranked????

I just went 20-6 and won the game, yet i gained 0 rank points, someone on my team LOST rank points for winning and he went 17-10

How is this fair?

[silver jewel]

hey Embark the buff for the light class shotgun SH1900 was not needed it's way over tuned and the M11 SMG needs a nerf either less damage or reduced mag size and if those don't work, make it where only the recurve bow and SR-84 light class weapons can do headshot damage so the rest of the light class weapons can' not do headshot damages, because it's not fun with this light shotgun and light M11 and dashing meta running around because it's gonna kill the game real fast

[boreal path]

There was just someone in my game of a world tour that had infinite coins and when we got to the final round he had -2, I dont understand how that is possible

[wheat frigate]

Just played another game of Ranked TA and won...... ZERO fun and no fulfillment gained from it. It is literally void of any hype or interest which is actually insane it is being forced on community via spiked strapon

[junior zenith]

[crystal umbra]

You know now that I think about it I feel like the developers are suffering from success because the cash out mode is just too fun but too different at the same time.

Cashout is just a fun hyperactive and engaging game mode. It's so new for anybody open-minded enough to give it a try that they'll fall in love.

On the other hand terminal attack is very familiar and the gateway drug for gamers to give the finals a try.

For those of us who actually gave cash out a try in the beginning and are true Finals fans we have a hard time accepting a lesser game mode right now.

Terminal attack probably is an all-right game mode for people who like to play "bomb style" game modes.

The thing about it though is that we specifically came to love the finals because we shunned or stayed away from games like valorant...

It's all just a slightly unfortunate situation. Just keep cooking. I think this smooths out over time. Fortnite didn't become number 1 overnight.

And I personally think The Finals has potential to get to number one.

[lament prism]

OMG THE HEAVYS

[sturdy sandal]

heavys are wayyy to meta now

[woeful arch]

Loving the new Tokyo map design, nicely done

Feature suggestion: outside of peak hours of the game, queuing for various game modes slows down significantly. Could we maybe queue for all/multiple game modes, then the player is sent to whichever game mode is full first? I would rather play quickly any of the game modes than wait ages for my favorite one, on most days.

[quick coyote]

Please revert the LH1 "buff" . It made the gun feel stiff and wayyyyyyyy to easy to use. If you wanted to buff it, the only thing i would really say should be changed is litteraly 1 extra damage, otherwise it shoudl stay the same.

[fervent vortex]

why we putting buff in quotes when its the most powerful any gun has been in the history of the game

[cold steeple]

almost worse than nukes

[candid apex]

Ranked is one thing. But why remove Cash Out from quick play?!? To force us to go through World Tour where we'll eventually have to put up w/ things like forced loadouts?!? I was gonna at least keep playing this game casually, but at this rate I can't even be sure of that.

[craggy fable]

I'm seeing on ProtonDB and the Anti Cheat compatibility list that The Finals runs ok on Linux. Is that right? I'm absolutely NOT interested in fucking with the anti-cheat and I'm curious if it works because I'd much rather play it in linux lol

[wintry trout]

whatever genius thought negating heavy's movement penalty and also giving them a disgusting new melee weapon was a good idea should maybe find another career path

[bronze thorn]

AKM, FCAR and maybe the FAMAS (which makes all the assault rifle in this game) way to weak to play now. They can really use a increase on damage and ammunition capacity

[digital herald]

can you make it so we have a filter on what builds we want on our team im actually tired of playing with smalls.

[sharp wind]

maybe if you didn't have such a poor launch with server issues and cheaters for the entirety of season 1 people wouldn't have lost interest. the game mode was not the cause, ta is a lazy copy of other shooters, and nothing in this game makes sense with it

[round goblet]

What the actual fk EMBARK, I literally reconned the last 3 min of my 1st round tournament match and carried my team to win via clutching all that cashout. After the round game suddenly went on "Connecting" Screen and gone to lobby menu followed by a suspension

[atomic dust]

if i get someone low and they kill themselves give me kill credit please

[unreal otter]

Why on earth did heavie's machine guns got nerfed? They didn't need to be nerfed.

[cerulean steeple]

Will not be playing ranked this season. Terminal Attack is a horrible game mode and makes no sense with the way this game works. The main point of this game is literally supposed to be to REACH THE FINALS! But now that is not even the main ranked mode.

[vague osprey]

Some stuff can completely out do heavys

[daring fossil]

i want to like the bow, but it kind of really sucks and the CL40 buff was extremely out of touch.

@fervent vortex I'd say it was still stronger in beta.

[naive fulcrum]

Hit your shots, they're fine as they are right now, this isn't an issue. Just because some weapons require nerfing (lh1, tk, flame) doesn't mean mediums can't compete, the ARs can destroy HP if you hit your shots, if you can't do that play an SMG or something, it isn't a fault of the weapon

[wind copper]

I got ban for never disconnecting. XD

[white cosmos]

I genuinely am curious as to who decided that TA should replace the main ranked gamemode in The Finals. The community fell in love with this game through the beta and first two seasons. All with the typical cashout style tournaments. Why recreate a gamemode from other games that is worse than their own version of this gamemode. The finals was clearly not designed to be a 5v5 Search and Destroy style game because you literally are not able to use all of the abilities and gadgets in this game mode.

[near shell]

Reminds me of road hog in ow1

[quick coyote]

The finals has never felt better. World Tour is great and gives the game so much flavor. I hope it’s here to stay. I’d rarely play cashout before. Much less tournaments.

[steady rose]

Cashout is more fun.
More game modes is not good for low player count. Players will get scattered, matchmaking quality will decline with lower player count + multiple game modes.

TA might be fun ONLY IF the matchmaking is more balanced, it needs more competitive gamers in the fps sense. The design naturally lacks the kind of strategy it requires from Valorant or CS. In theory, The Finals has the tool and the potential of strategy that these games have to enter into a site. But it's not possible if all your teammates are just fooling around. To put it simply, even in CS or Valorant... The lower rank also requires some form of flash, smoke to set up for entry. The Finals just aren't built for that, trying to copy them will just make this game worse.
If anything, just commit to 1 game mode. Trying to listen to the players too much is like pleasing everybody (minority) and that will not improve your game. Commit to 1 game mode that appeals to the masses is the only way, especially with this player count.

Anyway, I like those new weapons of season 3, much fun.

[floral adder]

My biggest complaint is 120 fps on a consoles why hasnt that been a thing yet? Is the game not able to run it?

[woeful arch]

So when the Heavy pulls you back with their chains you don't even hear a chain sound 5 seconds before they use their ability like you somewhat do with the buzzy sound of Lights ??? Who thought it was a good idea? How on earth can we counter something we can't see or even hear? Geesh. Appaling.

I'm not having fun AT ALL with that in Quick Cash mode on Kyoto map. Going to play some more but so far this is the one thing I'm not liking about S3 kickoff.

And as a Medium main I'm absolutely NOT liking the way Guardian Turret is working now; it's awful to set it up on controller. Another terrible decision.

[mint lintel]

Why do you need 120 fps, that does it give you, humans can only SEE in 30fps, if you can tell the difference between 30 and 60 than there are bigger issues at hand

[fierce valve]

Dont force new players to play Terminal Assault first. That is incredibly disappointing to see. I've already heard comments of people not playing The Finals because they have to play a mode they dont want to play before they can play anything else.

[glacial geyser]

This is some low effort bait

[sturdy sandal]

I really wish that the practice range werent such an afterthought. i dont want to have to buy kovaaks just to practice aiming for this game. like the moving targets move slower than any walking speed. Also WHY ARE HEAVYS SO FREAKING OP NOW??? its absurd that the new spear for heavies literally discombobulates the entire platform in powershift. not to mention the roadhog hook that can snip you from the moon in its closest orbit

[idle geyser]

`losing 1400 rank on a loss and gaining 200 on a win is ridiculous, how am i supposed to climb?

Because people are unranked it thinks the Team Rank Points heavily favors my team sinc ewe are all top 100, but because some people are barely now ranking we faced a cheater (clear aimbot), and lost 1400 points. Even on a win, i gained 0 rank points when i dropped 20 kills. So winning i can potentially gain 0, and losing i lose 1400

[crystal umbra]

Your not lol

[vocal sand]

I think it would be awesome at the end of the game, when the summary pops up, you add the 2rd and 3rd best of the team, not just the first place stats. So there would be gold, silver and bronze coloring to stats if it’s the first, second and third!

[odd cedar]

PLEASE LET US CHANGE GEAR MID ROUND IN WORLD TOUR 😭 😭 😭

if i am being curb stomped because my loadout is close range, i should not have to just sit there against a team whose whole kit is anti close range. at the very least, limit it to once per round

[tribal vortex]

The launch of season 3 is disastrous

[viral quiver]

Make the LH1 more accurate plz and thank u

[oak kernel]

Same, plz do

[bronze thorn]

You do realize that Nerfing isn't the only way to do balance right?
I post this base on the experience that when I use fly-cutter I can easily carry the match but with an akm I can hardly ever get more than 7 kills.
it's not like one of them requires no aim at all, or even if one do require no aim at all, then it is called imbalance and unfair, those guns are simply too weak for now, either buff them or nerf everything else

[sturdy abyss]

New bug I just encountered was loading into quick cash on Kyoto. Never dropped into the character selection screen and stayed at the loading screen while listening to the game start. Had to force shut down Finals

[night surge]

lmao tbh is already is so OP right now

[vapid pine]

Bring back ranked cashout. TA ranked only is horrible.

[desert fern]

Embark I am getting pissed off you force me to play ranked terminal attack to get similar ranked players which is not what this game is then when you want to play world tours you get bad players who "just want to have fun" and I am fuming I love this game and want to play competitively and at least last season with its no so good ranked system at least I got the play **THE FINALS AND NOT THE TERMINALS **

Sorry I got heated but please I cant wait 103 days before you add back proper cashout if this continues I am going to have to drop this game I am sorry all <3

[high lynx]

kyoto's foliage absolutly kills framerates

[cosmic cloud]

Hey embark, you forgot to add the level 7 mastery skin for the healing beam.

[quiet flare]

👀👀

[neon kettle]

Are tournaments in world tour counted as tournaments? Like I've been winning a lot of separate matches of cash out but I don't have the contract.

Also in the moving platforms the textures are bugged