👂┇game-feedback

[tough merlin]

? its been awhile since they've touched stun

[languid lotus]

game needs better anti cheat, config users and 3rd party device cheaters are still active. i suggest adopting what riot did with valorant/vangaurd

[bitter tangle]

Day 16 of asking for a graphical performance mode

Please don't make me be required to have a $1000 PC build just to play a game that is capable of having some form of performance mode! ❤️

[twilit patrol]

Played around 10-15 games today. I haven't played Sky Stadium once. Please introduce a system where we can play all maps with a healthy rotation or maybe a pick/ban system should be introduced. I haven't seen 1 sky stadium at all today.

[rough herald]

where is static option, circle crosshair, dot crosshair, and option to make it really small?
only in external crosshair program which is bannable mind you

pls just give us static crosshair and ALLLLL Of us will be happy

[thick fractal]

there needs to be an option to edit the opacity of waypoints and objective text. the fact that an enemy can be obscured by a cashout or vault is insane. even in bankit, someones head is covered by the numbers if you're on sniper. too often do i lose duels because an enemy is being covered by a whole waypoint

[viscid quiver]

im so happy u guys released a great anticheat. ive been playing tarkov for years and actually can break the cycle by playing this cheater free game. best update so far

[versed cloud]

I love how you can't see your fame points now, really makes you feel like you're making progress. Thanks a lot

[gentle scarab]

let me hold right click on melees pls its pretty tricky to know when to click right click

[river current]

rebuff sa1216(diffusion and range)

[formal sphinx]

Add a total score of Combat + Support + objective.

[uneven mountain]

I want to see fame point progression again

[dry helm]

I am from australia and I have the same issue. I think i pretty much cannot do this mission

[spice stag]

sa is still one of heavies best options lol, definitely doesnt need any buffs

[cloud roost]

I’m from North America and I can’t do it either. It’s just impossible for the average player. No idea what their data told them about the ability for any given player to go out and win a tournament but I would be surprised it more than a fraction of the player base manage this one before giving up. Especially as the tournament mode is the glitchiest one there is in the game, kicking people out, giving bans on players when they are involuntarily booted or leave after teammates leave the match. And a major shame to have it so early in the circuit progression.

[unique dawn]

There needs to be a sniper restriction for power shift, 3 snipers enemy team and 4 on my time ☺️

[jagged cedar]

This is wild

[jolly depot]

judt got dc'd from the game, reconnected, and now i cant use anythong but my primary nothing workds

[brittle latch]

LOL? SOMEHOW WE QUALIFIED?

[echo void]

Release the season 2 lobby background for wallpaper engine

[quick coyote]

So you want the Dagger... To warn players before getting backstabbed? Give the thing a break.

[subtle tree]

Bullets should be produced nearer to the tip of the barrel, not the eyes.

I get that they'll always be produced from the center of the screen, but it's quite frustrating when you're trying to kill someone who is stealing and has a shield just next to them. With the gun pressed against the player and standing close enough to collide, if your eyes are behind the shield you cannot shoot them.

[shadow stirrup]

I think reporting people should actually result in consequences for the offending person than just be a bs GUI they decided to toss in

[uneven mountain]

how tf do you if they were punished

[prime sand]

Add "trust factor" to matchmaking like how CS:GO has, if someone is reported multiple times. Put them with other people who are getting reported a lot. Also, add a phone number verification to your account to play ranked.

[cinder folio]

I also feel the same about this. I feel when I report someone, it doesn't really do much. Maybe it does something in the background, but people have no way of knowing if the offending player was banned or not. If we were take example of other games such as VALORANT or Overwatch, a message would pop up on your screen after a week or two letting you know that the cheater was punished/banned, but right now, we have no way of knowing if we're making an impact on cheaters or not.

[obtuse cloud]

add back fame point progression, explain how the current ranked system works thoroughly, nerf invis lights + buff health regen (light=faster / heavy=slower), fix the spawns they are terrible

[river current]

don’t you see the “diffusion and range”?if you believe that sa1216 after patch 2.1 is still op,maybe you should learn how to avoid damage in CLOSE DISTANCE (just stay away you idiot)

[spice stag]

🥉

[hearty wind]

did they change something about seeing your rank points this season?
played like 4-5 rank games and did fairly well in all of them(only 1 game was a first round knockout), and i havent seen the progression bar pop up once yet, or my rank change. im only in silver 4, so i should have ranked up by now(based on how the ranks were spaced out from last season);

[mellow linden]

new weapons are still not viable

[jagged cedar]

The already worst light weapon deserved to be worse tho. Be careful... it might become too meta!

[quick coyote]

Once a dagger player finally got into the perfect position to backstab, a quick time event must begin for both players so it's a fair 1v1 where the enemy is aware.

[rotund remnant]

Genuinely can't tell the difference between bronze and gold players, please make it more noticeable! (And what level they are in their rank!)

[sinful gazelle]

Hi there, I have some feedback on the rank system so far. As of 3/29/2024, I have played some ranked matches, but there are still some issues. Firstly, matches are either filled with one good team (diamond) and three bad teams (gold/silver) or with three good teams and one bad team, which leads to poor matchmaking and the ranking system feeling similar to season 1 again, albeit slightly improved. I suggest adding two more ranks to help balance the matchmaking: one between platinum and diamond, and another for the top 500 players, as a tier above diamond to reward truly skilled players. Additionally, implementing rank restrictions is crucial. A bronze player and a diamond player shouldn't be able to queue together, even if the bronze player is entering a 'diamond-level' match. Having no rank restrictions significantly lowers the overall match quality.

For instance, if you're a diamond player, you should only be able to queue with platinum players. Alternatively, let's say you're a Diamond 1; you should only be able to queue with players within three sub-ranks below you, meaning only Diamond 4. It feels like sub-ranks, such as from diamond 4 to 1, don't matter at all. In other games, like CSGO or VALORANT, it actually matters. It feels like matchmaking is just going by the rank alone and not considering the "sub-rank" of that rank too, essentially limiting you to queuing with players one rank above and below yours until new ranks are introduced in the game.

Regarding the current state of ranks, they shouldn't be visible in matches until matchmaking is fair. The reason for this is that in matches where there is one good team and three lower-ranked teams, it usually plays out in a way where the lower-ranked teams either avoid the higher-ranked team or team up to try to knock them out, and I'm sure there's no fun in that. As of the last patch, you guys have actually doubled down on it, which I don't understand at all. I do appreciate your explanation as to why.

Part1

[rough herald]

I don't want to bore you with walls of texts so here are the bullet point

Medium GL:
. TTK and DPS are balance imo but the thing that annoy me most is it selfdamage
. Selfdamage resetting health regen timer forces me to afk for so long and it just happen so offten dude
Suggestion:
. either make its so the GL do no self damage at all
. or make its still do selfdamage but not resetting the regen (also make the projectail go throw teammate)
. (this will make the combat up time of the gl user high so do as you will with that info)

@sinful gazelle PART 1?!?!???!??!?!

[analog cave]

feedback for the DISCORD: implement some way to lock a vc channel its silly and weird that someone can join your vc if youre doing comp, also it doesnt make sense for every single channel to be 6 man when you just introduced power shift and even that is only 5 man

[jolly aurora]

Prob already been said before but how about more statistics in general? Like how many kills you have for each weapon, or how many times you've used this gadget or that gadget etc.

[iron ivy]

i will pay money for: lower back, tool belt skin

[sand mulch]

Take the win 1 tournament challenge out behind the offices and shoot it.

[shadow stirrup]

Pretty sure I got muted for saying there should be dev-player transparency...

[quick dew]

Gyro aim needs to completely disable aim assist, gyro aim gives you basically the same accuracy as a mouse so having aim assist on top of that is unfair imo

[dry helm]

They could have made it win 3 games of cashout or something, I cannot get into Ranked tourney games sometimes, and its always at least 15 minute queue. And speaking of glitches, I finally got into one and one the first round yesterday, and got immediately booted from the game. Hope they change this one quick

[odd flax]

ASIA RANKED TOURNAMENT IS RUINED BY CHEATER, PLEASE NEWER THE ANTICHEAT! WHEN BAN WAVE

[harsh scaffold]

would be great to be able to see all teams that are alive at the top of the hud in a clever way to not be obscuring vision. Would allow for making plays without checking the scoreboard. changing the opacity of hud in general would be great too.

[royal turtle]

add unranked tourney

[obsidian solar]

BUFF THE RIOT SHIELD:
Here's some suggestions, I know all of these together would make the shield pretty strong but even 1 or 2 would be enough to improve it so much!:

• While blocking movement speed should be the same as walking (increasing block movement speed would help a lot in pushing and giving your teammates support)
• Increase swing speed (Honestly a lot issues would be solve with this, the weapon lacks a good ttk)
• Lunge distance (90% of the fight become a chase you can't win, the other classes have ways to block enemies, slow them down or catch up to them, even heavies have RPG to finish people off if they use sledge)
• Increase damage from 84 to 90 (to kill heavies in 4 hits instead of 5)
• Electrify the baton and give it a glitch effect, when you hit somebody they're glitched for 2,5 sec (This would give the shield so much utility and would help the team greatly, making it a viable options)
• Remove the fov zoom when you hold your shield up (it's very annoying that when you block the screen zooms in, either remove it or add the option to choose between affected or indipendent fov while aiming)

ALLOW MELEE WEAPONS TO KEEP SPRITING WHEN ATTACKING:

• This would help them to compete

IMPROVE MELEE TRACKING:

• Some weapons like the Dagger have an insane lock that is not needed, on the other hand the Riot Shield has a very weak lock, you can't even hit people in your face sometimes. Consider increasing the angle at which the lock works and reduce the lock strenght on the Dagger

FIX THE DAGGER BACKSTAB:

• Backstabs with the Dagger are the most incosistent thing I've ever seen, a lot times either nothing happens or it's not backstab even though you're right behind them and other times it is when you're literally in front of them
• Increase the backstab hitboxes because the latency of the servers causes this problems
• Make it so you can hold the backstab and it's not a forced animation, revert it like it was in the Open Beta

[bold mango]

The aps turret shouldn't literally be able to infinitely counter 3 entire weapons, especially the throwing knives of all things. Automatic weapons are already the meta, punishing a crowd control/gadget clearing weapon, with a gadget that is easy to spam on medium teams, especially on power struggle, is absurd

[smoky gust]

Every single time you lose, it is to factors outside of your controle
Its literally up to your skill
There is nothing stopping you from getting your shit together and beating them
Its not predetermined by a dice roll

You know what you have control over? The tools and strategies you bring into the game.
You know what you dont have contol over?
What the other players bring into the game
If they decided to bring something that counters you, youre done

We have already discussed this, yet you act like you've never heard of it and your whole conversation didnt happen yesterday

you clearly need to make some changes
What changes?
Randomly picking something else, foretold by gut feeling, so i actually get to play the game and dont get hard countered by some guy that randomly picked B instead of A?

Sometimes you just get stepped on by the better man
Thats all we have been talking about
That its not the better man but the one who randomly got lucky and picked something that hard counters you

If you arent reading anything, then there is no point in talking to you

[subtle tree]

I agree, you're dense. It's like talking to a wall. "If I can't win consistently, it isn't fair." Maybe you just suck.

Just won my second tournament tonight. Let's goooo!

[cloud roost]

It shows the clock on teams that have been wiped. Assume if you don’t see a countdown in upper left where the score is that the team is still alive

[harsh scaffold]

im talking about how many players are left on each team

[shy wyvern]

enyone else ho dont get rank point here???

[swift skiff]

Matchmaking?

[sweet wadi]

What about it? I mean yeah you matched against silver as a bronze but I think you should expect a range of one rank to match with you cause of the relatively low player counts

[wheat swan]

Buff dagger pls

[twilit patrol]

Am i missing something here or what?

[quick coyote]

Can we fix the bug where medi-guns just DON'T WORK some rounds?

[dusky stag]

Why is there no directional audio in this game? I heard a light uncloaking in front of me when in fact he was behind me. Noises are more distracting than useful in many cases.

[torpid radish]

Plz deal with cheaters. Yesterday we encountered huge cheater with wallhack, painful to play in unfair game, its like wasting time.

[jagged moat]

Facial hair cosmetics?

[obsidian solar]

Give smoke grenade to all classes! It would open so many possibilities! I would use smoke so much if it was on medium, on the other hand i've barely seen any Light using smoke, especially when they have better gadgets to choose from

[shy swan]

IDEAS

• sticky grenade with long detonation (maybe glitch or explosive)
• allow play again as a team button
• play of the game?
• glitch nades last 7 seconds not 5
• heavy c4 buff, maybe quicker cooldown makeing it useful for destruction to help heavy shields get around the map or something? (it was nerfed to the ground)
• better overtime in power shift cuz clutching is fun (stepping of enemy point removes overtime too quickly and when on enemy point they can still move the platform to win)
• smoke grenades disable all fire damage in that area
• see friends list friends cosmetics to help see who is who
• buff motion sensor (maybe make it work like an aps turret with cooldown and being perminant but make it have 2 charges?)
• fix getting stuck in goo on power shift point because the goo is moving
• give medium motion sensor?
• win loss history (see the games you won and lost in a day)
  thoughts anyone?

[vernal cobalt]

Hello why does in the finals game my screen flickers at the bottom of the screen but in other games it doest do that

[olive finch]

Does someone know what happens to the waiting Times in ranked?

[smoky gust]

rude for no reason

It's like talking to a wall.
No mate, your arguments are just bad

"If I can't win consistantly, it isn't fair"
Making up stuff i never said to try and make a point

I think its fair to say that there nothing coherent or helpful coming from you
Have a nice day 👍

[green estuary]

Hello, would you please allow the usage of more consecutive numbers for the Embark ID? I want to use 6 consecutive numbers but there is a restriction placed. My Steam profile name has 6 consecutive numbers and shows up fine in-game, but when the switch occurs I will be out of luck. Slight grievance I know, but one I would appreciate getting fixed/improved.

[prime ore]

why was no one playing objective ?lol

[shy wyvern]

god damn 2 days ago i was top 1700 something and now i am top 3050 and now i have played 10 games 4 the finals wins 3 the finals loss and 3 knock out roud 3 and i just keep loosing positions XD

[rough herald]

attachment for all gun but to unlock it you need 10,000 kills in that gun. pls pls pls pls pls pls
(Fyou sight form battlebit)

[wheat nova]

Why does light class even have an invisibility perk in the first place? The noise that emits when someone uses it doesn't give me a totally accurate idea of where they are. On top of being 95% invisible, they also have access to a stun gun that prevents me from ADSing, and reduces my movement. You guys also removed all of the recon abilities that were given to medium class and put it on the light class, which means now the only good way of countering that playstyle is by also using the light class. Mediums don't have much of a counter except mines but depending on the situation, the mines won't even go off. The meta right now that I see a good majority of lights use is invis, stun gun, M11. Invis to sneak up, stun gun to keep me from ADSing, M11 to quickly remove my health. Now yes, lights are better working against single targets, not teams, so I could easily stay with my teammates and not get killed, however, with the amount of debris and buildings, an invis light can easily be able to single someone out and remove me. By the time my teammates can even react to that info, that light can easily run off, reload, come back and taking shots, and easily team wipe. The light class has way too much to be just the flank and assassin class. Like light class gets invisibility but mediums can't have sonar? At the very least, nerf it so they have it for the same duration that a vanish bomb lasts and once they use it, they can't go back into it. When it's one person running it then thats fine, but when it's an entire team of them running invis, stun gun, and M11 or sword, it just completely destroys my will to keep trying. I understand that lights are low picked in higher levels of gameplay but the last thing I need is to load into quick cash and get demolished by an entire team of ttv invis lights. I'm sure I am not the first person to write about this.

[languid lotus]

lets not forget that lgihts complained out the ass about recon senses so the only counter is actually listening in game. light has been catered too far too long imo

[winter knoll]

PREACH!
Invis lights are actually a plague to the health of this game. Look i get recon sense was OP and literal wall hacks but c'mon man cloak lights just get to farm easy kills with such low effort with cloak. and the only way to counter them is with another light being as they have the monopoly on tracking abilities.
heavy gets a motion tracker that can be destroyed or just avoided like how do people actually think cloak isnt busted?
I also cannot possibly stress enough to the devs how gettting cloak and stungunned combo-ed is INCREDIBLY not fun. flahed? at least i have a chance to run or shoot. Glitched? i can still use my gun. Stunned? i have to pray my hipfire rng is on my side and that the light already zeroed in on me doesnt burst me down in the time i have to blink.
for the love of god please nerf or rework cloak or give the other classes better counter options

[swift skiff]

look at the points? My teammate got 300, the other one left and nearly all my enemies got more than 4k with one even 8k

[sweet wadi]

Yeah that's not matchmaking but just unlucky mates. But I feel with you

[hallow tartan]

Are ur headphones on backwards

[dusky stag]

Nope. And they're fully capable of directional sound too. Sennheiser HD600

[odd ibex]

U need to help spread the message to the devs on dagger buff!
Daggers should hook onto walls and ceilings by holding or double tapping secondary attack and wall running for 1.3 seconds after hooking,also fast wall jumping it’s only for getting around vertical places not fast travel so making the dagger more utility based would be nice and remember sword lunge and dash combo can help u fast travel cover large distance and do high damage 360 degrees with auto aim but dagger is just awkward.

Dagger should have fast downwards thrust that do 120damage that’s like sword lunge but downwards so u can hook on walls and ambush players.

Add slide step or a fast half step as a way to get a better angle or wall peek,evade.

Fix the auto aim as u can miss point blank backstabs,fix the input delay for dash as when players r turning it goes in a different direction because of the delay at least for dagger.

Dagger wall jumps should be higher than normal jumps.
U can grapple hook up or dash up and do a downward thrust or u can be stuck up a wall while cloaked and then fall down for ambush so there is synergy will all abilities too

[plush shell]

add good crosshair settings like this https://centerpointgaming.com/assets/images/crosshairv2/crosshair_array.png

[quick coyote]

can we please get tournament found voice indicator even when you are out of focus mode. sometimes if you solo queue a ranked tournament and since the queue takes few time you might do something on background but you got nothing says the game started and sometimes it end up forgetting you queued a game and get banned. thanks embark think of it.

[mild pond]

why can’t I dash through glass?

[keen lintel]

Make a tdm and ffa it would be good

[shy swan]

IDEAS

• sticky grenade with long detonation (maybe glitch or explosive)
• allow play again as a team button
• play of the game?
• glitch nades last 7 seconds not 5
• heavy c4 buff, maybe quicker cooldown makeing it useful for destruction to help heavy shields get around the map or something? (it was nerfed to the ground)
• better overtime in power shift cuz clutching is fun (stepping of enemy point removes overtime too quickly and when on enemy point they can still move the platform to win)
• smoke grenades disable all fire damage in that area
• see friends list friends cosmetics to help see who is who
• buff motion sensor (maybe make it work like an aps turret with cooldown and being perminant but make it have 2 charges?)
• fix getting stuck in goo on power shift point because the goo is moving
• give medium motion sensor?
• win loss history (see the games you won and lost in a day)
  thoughts anyone?

[balmy compass]

Seconded. Only for the reason that ranked would be infinitely better since 99% of the players barely play the objective and only play TDM/FFA anyway and should not even be in ranked.

[white sundial]

If you wanted to nerf the stun gun, give it spread so you actually have to ADS to make it accurate

[wraith igloo]

Team text chat when??

[odd ibex]

I agree with most accept the goo grenade,it helps to stop enemies for a very little time atleast and I have been commenting how the turret should have a varient where it has a bit less damage and range but it can track enemies when it hits enemies as a recon offensive item.

Also have dagger hook onto walls and ceilings with double tap secondary and wall run for 1.3 seconds then wall jump to hook again.

Then add a downward thrust for dagger when falling cause swords with dash combo u can fly around and still do damage but dagger is slow.

[river plover]

Holding right click while falling to instakill someone with a death from above sounds like an awesome idea

I dont fully understand what you mean with that dagger wall run thing, I dont think -double right click to hook on walls- is a good idea, instead just let us wall run (and ceiling run I guess?) ceiling run would have to be very short.
I think the idea of jumping around in a place like Las Vegas, climb onto the ceiling to drop down on your enemies to stick a dagger in their head is awesome

[lapis pollen]

I think most dagger mains require revert dagger because it was once in the game. Your idea is good, but it is a different level of difficulty for devs than reverting something that has been around before.

[rapid nexus]

message me if anyone knows how to fix "disallowed tool" message. game is almost unplayable for me right now. any help would be greatly appreciated

[daring fossil]

something is running that the game doesn't like, check your startup tab in task manager and disable anything you don't need. Auto-hotkey and other macro tools trigger this, so does aida64 and probably other software that access your ram

[zinc folio]

If we solve the cheater and rank matching problem, the population will increase. 🙂

[tender sail]

Has anyone ever said that low gravity is enjoyable?

[spare cape]

Can we get haptic/adaptive trigger for ps5 please, be amazing to feel all the different guns and gadgets and proper rumble when running through walls and walking on terrain, we really need 120 hz support for Xbox and PlayStation would be an huge quality of life update for consoles especially haptics

[balmy compass]

It is if you are playing CL40. Try it out. I would say MGL too but that weapon is just beyond trash even if it is affected by low gravity. Also low gravity helps heavies move around easier. imo It's not a favorite but I dislike orbital way more in that case.

[teal minnow]

nerf fcar to the ground

[odd ibex]

By wall running I mean hook on to walls with dagger and wall run for 1.3 sec and then u have to hook again or else u will fall otherwise it’s op and doesn’t make sense.
Atleast have a wall jump mechanic after hooking.

The downward thrust would atleast have 140 damage minimum if the devs think one shot kill is op or something,since u have swords lights using lunge and dash to instantly kill with auto aim we need downward thrust for balance.

Imagine using grapple hook/dash and dagger hook combo to get on ceilings and walls and then ambush enemies or break line of sight mid fight and drop on enemies,it’s would be awesome especially on Las Vegas.
Still balanced compared to sword and u have so low health as light.
Help spread the word.

[dapper atlas]

Can we attach pictures here for the feedback? Sometimes using picture to explain really helps, especially with visual bugs or problems.

[native vector]

yes, but you need to rank up in the chat first. lol. I ran into the same issue. It's kind of annoying, but it's what the rules of the server are.

You level up in the chat by chatting. each rank gives you different perks. One of the perks is the ability to post pictures.

Unrelated to your question, 30 minutes seems like a really long time for a feedback channel. But who knows.

[balmy compass]

Why? You can't win unless everything everyone else enjoy playing is so bad they can't kill you even if they tried? It has already been nerfed and is less used. If you only want to win by everyone else being bad I suggest playing a game with bots.

[teal minnow]

if there is a team with 2 fcar they just beam you down

[river plover]

It has not been nerfed that was like a 2% recoil increase

[drifting sapphire]

I don't know why no one is talking about this either, maybe the biggest problem with the game so far is that in 85% of the games, you encounter a cheater in ranked matches, and now with the removal of tournaments, we are 'forced' to play ranked if we want to play something similar to tournaments, but there are so many cheaters that it's impossible to play the game, that and the matchmaking is terrible, the game is unplayable unfortunately

[molten palm]

And people wonder why there’s a huge drop in player count.. that’s why

[fiery patio]

main issue

[tender sail]

Bunny Bash might be more fun if I weren't forced to use the two worst weapons imaginible as the heavy...

[misty flicker]

The trophy System Need a nerf

[odd ibex]

Devs won’t make it that easy for u understand that the sooner the better.

[sterile viper]

buff pyro grenade

[zinc folio]

I agree

[quick coyote]

BRING POWER SHIFT TOURNAMENT

[pearl steppe]

Make the oce servers better like pls it’s practically impossible to get a rank match 🙂

[native vector]

go asia? or is ping bad if you do?

[balmy compass]

So stop standing right out in the open or at long range? Run away? Wtf man. Play heavy and put up your shield or stand behind a barricade, play light and kill them from invis. Dno man. I got zero issues with FCAR except some people get lucky shots at a very long distance. If you aren't playing FCAR force them into your weapons prefered range. Long range is also less dmg but I guess @river plover is too butthurt to even recognize that part of the nerf and throwing imaginary 2% cope numbers around instead.

[dapper atlas]

https://github.com/bernardodangelo/TheFinals <--------------- I saw this in the spawn point chat saying about cheats in The Finals. Maybe Dev could take a look at it? Thanks.

[humble osprey]

Make keyboard and mouse compatible with ps5

[keen quiver]

5v5 Bank it,Quick cashout ? Yes or nah

[haughty wedge]

Instead of crossplay add a option for console (ps5 and Xbox) only. The difference between keyboard mouse and controller is too big.

[river plover]

Ofc 2% isnt realistic goofie, in the end it didnt get changed even slightly enough, the new recoil pattern is easily learnable so might as well be 0%
Range nerf didnt change much, fighting over the effective range of the FCAR (36m) is useless anyways.
"Run away" if you die in 0.5 seconds (without headshots) is not plausible :P

[plucky condor]

long wait times 7 plus i just waited and get teamates sitting afk

[hollow mango]

often get an infinite loading screen when connecting to the lobby after a match

[odd ibex]

By wall running I mean hook on to walls with dagger and wall run for 1.3 sec and then u have to hook again or else u will fall otherwise it’s op and doesn’t make sense.
Atleast have a wall jump mechanic after hooking.

The downward thrust would atleast have 140 damage minimum if the devs think one shot kill is op or something,since u have swords lights using lunge and dash to instantly kill with auto aim we need downward thrust for balance.

Imagine using grapple hook/dash and dagger hook combo to get on ceilings and walls and then ambush enemies or break line of sight mid fight and drop on enemies,it’s would be awesome especially on Las Vegas.
Still balanced compared to sword and u have so low health as light.
Help spread the word.

[fickle lantern]

nerf the cl-40

[violet elbow]

me when guns can hit past 10m so its the game's fault when i stand out of cover for several seconds and get beamed at range

[clever hawk]

Linking my two part KS-23 review again to reiterate that the wild dispersion & glacial reload from empty are two massively crippling flaws that are totally unnecessary.

Even with the major ROF boost you still need to hit almost every shot to compete with other weapons, much like the 1887.

The insane inaccuracy in certain movement states is worse than the RPG, which is devastating for the necessity of accuracy detailed above.

The 1.5s reload from empty is another unnecessarily devastating punishment. You hit empty very quickly & frequently, and it makes you a sitting duck.

Again, even with near-perfect accuracy this weapon is merely competitive with other, easier weapons. It doesn’t dominate. There’s no reason for such glaring flaws.

[sly estuary]

I just dont understand for what playerbase is this game made for. 80% of gamers are solo casual players and ranked mode on this game is so team heavy. You basicly need to hold hands and comunicate like you play 100K tournament. Your aim and kills have very low impact with all this gadgets spam and high TTK. So ranked is only for stack teams and solo casual people cant play this mod and have a fun. Because all wapons and gadgets are balanced for ranked every other casual mod dont work really and its unbalanced mess. Power shift is shoting shield and aps, turrets all game or camping lights with snipers. Everyone plays light invis cringe in quick cash because its fun agaist uncordinated teams but uselles in ranked where teams play toghether. With very little thing to grind and a lot of cheaters Idk why would any new casual players stay on this game. So please make ranked more solo new player friendly or make better balanced casual mods. 💪

[balmy compass]

Oh okay so you want completely random recoil every time you shoot so you can't even learn to aim. Maybe FPS isn't your game then. And there we are. Complaining about dying too fast not caring if someone spent hours upon hours in practice mode or aim trainers completely disregarding skill. You just want to win with zero effort put in. Or maybe you just want everyone else not playing your troll weapon of choice to lose as well. Defaulting to nerfing instead of learning... christ.

[humble osprey]

Make keyboard and mouse compatible with ps5

[tired crescent]

Way to go pulling random statistics out of your ass. You're always allowed to share opinions, but you quickly lose the value in your messages if you're going to straight up spread misinformation

[pure salmon]

These 10 minute queue times are unacceptable.

[keen quiver]

Ranked 5v5 platform & Bank it

[river plover]

0.5 seconds isnt several seconds, also pretty hard to do anything in this game if I am behind cover the entire time.

@balmy compass When did I ever say I want completely random recoil? Theres about 800 other ways to nerf a weapon.
FCAR is easily the easiest weapon to use in the entire game, and the best one too. Saying the FCAR isn't the best weapon in the game is just lying. Calling any weapon that's not the FCAR a "troll weapon" really shows the position of the FCAR.

We obviously have differences in what counts as "learning" I spent about 200 hours trying to learn the dagger. The FCAR just takes good aim.

[ebon peak]

If there are no OCE players at all, how will you find a match my friend. EU and NA are the only 2 servers with player base,, rest servers are dead

[upper granite]

Not a thing

[quartz cedar]

Glitch Trap
Reduced the duration of glitch effect from 10s to 5s

Glitch Grenade
Reduce the duration of glitch effect from 10s to 5s

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Change these to 7.5 seconds or to 8 seconds MINIMUM.
5s is not enough time to make any well-thought-out play, flank, or do anything special. (does light HAVE to combine portal grenade and glitch grenade in order to be useful in teamfights vs HHM? It's not like portalling into a full setup is a good idea anyway.)
5 seconds Glitch effect gives you the option to run in like a headless chicken vs a full setup with barricades and two heavies aiming at you, great.

tldr; 5 seconds is not enough time to make a smart play after hitting Glitch.

[vocal shadow]

Hot take:

Glitch grenade should only effect gadgets and specializations and not the player.

There's 0 reason a light should have the ability to basically have a stun gun AND a long range stun gun. The only difference between stun gun and glitch grenade is one slows movement and the other makes specializations and gadgets useless. Glitch grenade also has a much farther range than the stun gun while sharing the same abilities as a stun gun and lasting for double the length of a stun gun.

Both have the added effect of not allowing the player to aim, switch weapons, carry objects or interact with objects/environment.

So if they both do the same thing where it actually negatively affects game play, then the same amount of time should be applied to it (Glitch grenade) that the stun gun has.

This has been an ongoing thought I've had since the closed betas but also to kinda stir the pot since it seems to be a hot topic at the moment.

[tender sail]

Please add the option to remove auto-aim for the dagger and sword on PC. It's actively making me miss kills by turning me away from their back when I press the backstab

[quick coyote]

You can still interact with stuff like doors, carry objects, aim, run and crouch when you're glitched.

[rough vessel]

this is just wrong lol, glitch ONLY affects your specialisation and gadgets, you can still ads, move normally and interact with stuff

[balmy compass]

No reason? The class is absolute garbage and you just dislike being glitched and dying. I don't see you complaining about there being glitch mines, or pyro mines and pyro nades, or gas granades and gas mines. You chose 1 specific thing you find annoying and make it feedback.

[fossil epoch]

Add keyboard and mouse compatibility in console

[shy swan]

BUFF THE FLASHBANG RN ITS SHIT

[sweet wadi]

There are many solos getting diamond, the highest rank. Yes of course it's a team game but what about this fact is bad?

[versed bridge]

You realise you can move around perfectly fine and ADS after being hit by a glitch grenade?
Glitch only disables your specialisation and gadgets

[plucky badger]

Day 8 advocating for the ability to hold right click on dagger and throwing knives

Also make ks-23 do 105 damage so you can 2 shot melee mediums and 3 shot melee heavies but can’t 1 shot melee lights would be a great buff

[keen quiver]

Would be cool if we could fully customize our characters face & body with tons of settings

[pearl steppe]

No since it will be unfair cuz the hit box and the enemy gonna be distracted by the bbl

[pseudo breach]

Day 5 of asking to put map rotation on a time for casual. Really sick of getting Horizon and or Vegas 90% of the time.

Also, can we please get South African servers?

[sly estuary]

Solo to diamond is not fun and its just based on what teammates you get and are you in game against 3 stack teams. Second thing is how much time you have to play and grind. It can be done but is it really fun for new players. I am not saying its bad to have team based game and hands holding all the way i just dont see it to be atractive to everyone that is why we have 20K playerbase that love this game from 250K that try it and dont really like it for reason i write in msg above

[tall herald]

would be nice if the game would save the costumizations i put on weapons and stuff, right now it doenst save a thing which is f**kin annoying

[copper sparrow]

but if you make the push while they're glitched you immediately win. this is a terrible take also your name really gives out the kind of whiner you are so no, 5s is fine for glitches. max would be 6 or 7.

[quartz cedar]

No you dont immediately win, because they'll be standing behind a wall of barricades, with only their heads showing. It's not smart rushing into that, even if you hit your glitch.
It might work if you have a heavy on your team with shields available, but that's a pretty niche situation.

7s or so would be a nice medium, yeah

[tawdry mesa]

Still waiting for rank progress indication. At least add % or bar or something to tell us how close we are to the next rank or rank down

[balmy compass]

Fun is subjective. You telling someone what is fun and isn't it completely meaningless. I enjoy the solo to diamond grind. Else I wouldn't do it and just live in the lfg channel. There are options. If people don't enjoy solo, find a group, add people you wanna play with again to friends etc. If you want the game to only be fun according to you buy Embark and dev it accordingly.

[dense saffron]

For me, the game is currently in an almost unplayable state. I'm trying it everyday in hope something has changed, but it sadly did not. I have a weird bug I am only encountering in this game. The problem is, the audio randomly cutting off. When this happens, all PC sounds are getting muted, the game included. When the sound comes back, it plays all the sounds that have been muted before. So I am hearing the muted sounds playing and also the live sounds (everything thats happening rn) playing. The audio cutoff is a real problem, because when it happens in an intense fight, its really giving me some serious problems. Also it just completely kills the vibe of the game.
I never had this error in the beta and alpha versions of the game. These errors started happening with Season 1 and have been appearing at irregular intervals. While writing this text I have the Finals opened in the menu and this soundbug already appeared 4 times.
I wrote here a few times about this bug and also contacted the support directly, but sadly nothing happened since then. It's really frustrating and I hope it gets fixed in the future so I can come back and have fun with the finals. Thats my feedback for now, hope it gets noticed.

Oh, also please add pink skirts to the character customization.

[turbid heath]

We need a tdm mode!!!!

[quick coyote]

i like

[sly estuary]

Ther are fact and there is subjective opinions. So fact is that 250K try this game and only 20K stay and still play. That is a fact. My opinion is only my of cours. This is game feedback and i stated why i think this game dont have more players. I agree that everyone have differend meaning of fun. Maybe its fun for you if someone hit you in head 3 times a day 😂 and that is ok if its fun for you my friend. I just write my opinion off course you can write yours why this game have only 20K players or why you like to play solo vs stacked teams 😁

[scarlet jackal]

10 day try hard in Ranked, almost every game cheaters with aimbot and vh besides diamond 1 trio players from world top on gold rank. Embark, if for some reason you can not now solve the problem with cheats, I suggest you introduce the ability to kick the cheater from the lobby. The fact that they have the opportunity to finish the game is just outrageous.

You can make a "democratic" (lol) point system for kicking as it has been done in many games. If for example 3+ players from different teams vote for a player to be kicked (so that there is an opportunity not to kick players you just don't like) then the cheater is kicked out of the game and banned from playing in the ranked game for 30 minutes.

To compensate lost of kicked player you can connect any solo player with already started tournament without fame points lose.

[normal locust]

CM, any idea how long till i get response from Support?

[rich brook]

Its Easter weekend so they're probably not as quick and probably have a backlog :/

[obtuse ravine]

Matchmaking "backfill" is currently garbage.

I've had plenty of games where I'm thrown into a match and 10 seconds later the elimination screen pops up and my team lost.

This needs to be fixed for all modes that have backfill.

[dense shadow]

New Cheater in "The FInals" (Aimbot, Wallhack) PLS REP him; su#6483 ("LEAD MHL")

[balmy compass]

I like your suggestions. Especially the one with having a solo player filling a slot if needed. Would cut queue times and since they are forcing players to stay in 2v3 games now would make sense. However I also find it comical that I have not met a single cheater in 3 days and I've played minimum of 5hr each day. Maybe they are all diamond

[pseudo latch]

I did not remotely say this. I said if you fuck up a backstab I should get enough time to turn to you and say “excuse me, but I dislike what you are currently attempting to do, please cease” instead of you just winding up another one and pretending you didn’t just fuck up. If you do it properly (and changes are made so the proper stab actually works) I dont get a chance to respond, so you do not need it to be faster

[limpid scroll]

You can exploit the match ban by just using play again

But I shouldn't be banned if my teammate has left give me the option for me and my only teammate left to vote to leave

[tough anchor]

Nothing to complain about this time 😄 just wanted to say I REALLY enjoy the power shift game mode, especially the 5v5 aspect. I think a 5v5 bank it would be cool, like a kill confirmed game mode with a twist.

[humble temple]

another vote for this idea

[mystic briar]

👍

[clear trout]

add votekick if you cant be bothered to fix the anticheat embark

[tribal zinc]

why allow us to block ppl when we still get put in matches together ....

[keen lily]

add an option to have custom crosshairs\

[twilit sorrel]

Been waiting for over 20 mins to start a match. I’ve closed the game 3 times and still nothing.

[slim sun]

i just love the game really

[stray rampart]

Funny enough, we were fighting this guy earlier... Same issue. He'll headshot all his bullets through a pixel sized hole

[pure lantern]

Hi gamers

[mint wharf]

27 minutes waiting for a ranked match

[placid hazel]

nerf heal and defib

[dusky night]

too many cheaters

[obtuse ravine]

If you aren't a top player streaming the game, they won't listen to you loll, they only care about the small percent that spends the most money

[warm quartz]

Hey yall is anyone on xbox not getting invites from their frienda and cant queue in rank for no apparent reasons

[sinful gazelle]

That’s 100% wrong. Devs do not listen to streamers or comp ppls nor passionate casuals.

Only the whiners even tho they said they do changes by “data”.

@upper citrus Past nerds and removing of things like nukes, dead go boom, and each things. Rather making counterplay/buffing weaker gadgets for it. Just straight up nerf.

Rank is a joke, any other game have at least a more polished rank system in place. No rank restrictions, no real MM, shown rank to the entire lobby, enabled greeting, DOUBLE down on shown rank last patch.

And much more.

Yeah patches been like a solid 5/10 but they aren’t consistent on how they nerf and buff and balances things. They see smth that ppls complain about a lot and decide to just nerf and then remove it, so they can later “rework” it.

I love the devs but holy moly, devs start to need to listen to the right side of the community and not just whiners

[pseudo leaf]

in plat elo i see at least one cheater every 2 tournament because plats and diamonds are using one unranked guy named in Chinese

[soft fractal]

why is it taking so long to find ranked games lmao

[quick coyote]

Bring keyboard and mouse support for Ps5

[polar mist]

I want the skill to have a coold time after being revived by defib. Heavy and cloaking is too much of an advantage.

[balmy compass]

Lol I talk out of my infinite well of cope lol. they kept bank it because so many top players streaming kept begging them lol, any feedback you have is invalid unless you are in T500 and streaming lol. i know because I am a AAA developer and I know how for a fact studios only listen to those guys lol

[upper citrus]

it is weird that everyone says they only listen to whiners even though every balance patch has been in a great direction and the game has come a long way balance wise since launch. so much better rn than day 1

[pseudo breach]

I contacted them about 12 days ago, still waiting for a reply...

[quartz cedar]

This post is factually incorrect, and should therefore be ignored.

[quick coyote]

Please never make a suggestion ever again. No self damage on CL? The weapon that already counters melees by shooting at your feet and completely denies light's existence? Awesome. I'm in for a CL rework that encourages direct hits rather than just aoe spam at choke points like it's tf2.

@pseudo latch The Dagger backstab has a fairly loud sound, if they miss and you can't hear the stab behind you, alongside not being near anyone who will instantly beam the light the second they start the animation, seems like a you problem.
No one cared about it in OB, it was bad regardless and will always be bad because not a single soul will pick dagger over XP or LH1. Literally once any player in the lobby is aware of a dagger's presence they just check their back every now and then and it's basically over for the dagger player there.

[pseudo latch]

Im not saying the dagger isnt warning you, but if youre already halfway into another stab by the time I register you fucked up, it matters a whole lot less that you fucked up. The Reward should carry equal risk, and the ability to one shot anyone but a heavy and effectively one shot said heavy needs to carry ample risk. If you fuck up that first stab, it should take a decent amount of time to wind-up the next one.

[twilit sorrel]

It’s been 45 mins still waiting to join a match. On the bright side, I was able to do my laundry, the kids laundry, dishes, build some legos for the kids, and watch a tutorial on YouTube for Quickbooks. Thanks for helping me productive

[wary hedge]

Can't agree more bout the CL, what on earth is that suggestion

[tough willow]

Ranked tournaments are the least fun thing in the entire game.

[half iris]

your game tortures me today. 3 games, 3 times paired up with silly useless lights. You need to limit the amount of X class in one map and consider stopping certain combinations of abilites and weapon this light with the stun sword and invis is shit when there is 4 of them

[shut orbit]

Just play with friends

[noble cargo]

fr

[smoky lily]

there is a triple high diamond team of cheaters shooting through shields with aim, 50+ kills per round, no ban yet lol

[prime sand]

^ just went against them; "this game doesnt have a anti cheat"

[lusty grotto]

Plis ban hack

[unique steeple]

Ranked is doomed, every single game i get in has a cheater in it, last game i was fighting a team of cheatesr with a cheater in my team. Fix your anticheat asap.

[solid narwhal]

Please bring kbm back to console, I don't like playing fps games on controller, and so do several other console players. COD and other games have kbm support and I don't see why you removed it from this game. Please bring it back it's my og playstyle thanks.

[cursive warren]

In-Game Server Feedback

- Extreme Lag:

*I currently have just queued twice for today **(at the time of 11:15am EST - 11:30am EST) *and in the first game, i got EXTREME lag, my second queue in, i got instant error coded/kicked from the server i was loading into and now am currently stuck in an infinite loading screen when trying to reboot the game back up.

I don’t know if it’s just a morning thing or you guys (Embark) are just currently having server issues atm but this is honestly unacceptable, this extreme case doesn’t happen every morning to me but i do get connection troubles only in the morning times within my timezone and its honestly frustrating, a fix needs to be implemented to further stabilize you the network during the early part of the day.

[river current]

rebuff sa1216(diffusion and range)

[glacial storm]

ks-23 buff pwease 🥺👉👈 increasing range and damage up to 110 even if it means reducing rate of fire would help this gun a lot >_<

[brave copper]

You're basically just asking them to undo the changes in the last patch lol

[upper citrus]

can someone pin this 😭

[quick coyote]

No.

@pseudo latch I'm not all too sure of how it functioned back in the open/closed beta but from what I've seen the backstab mechanism was more similar to sword's lunge which seems to be exactly what you are asking for. @foggy orbit Has more information on the dagger's history than I do.

[heavy vortex]

I love Bunny Bash! ❤️

[pseudo latch]

had a few people encourage the idea over in finals so im sharing it here: Cashboxes should be partially progressive in addition to cash being rewarded on completion.

For example, a 10K cashbox should award 6K of its money over the duration of its cashout to whoevers holding it (5$/sec to whichever team is holding the point) while the last 4K is awarded to whoevers holding it. That way theres still a reward and incentive to stealing cashbox last second, but the team who spent the whole time holding it isnt completely shafted of any progress.

Why make this change?: Primarily two reasons, to staunch (but not completely remove) scavenger tactics like stealing cashbox last second or waiting to thirdparty a fight to steal all the work, and to slow down and make games more even.

This change would lead to less of a gap between teams in cashout and tournament, and leave a more fair gap for comebacks without some teams getting shafted for doing all the work.

@quick coyote Tac also doesnt seem very fond of me so I dont think i'll be asking them much of anything. All I know is that making sure a backstab is a backstab is all dagger really needs. you certainly dont need to be able to backstab over twice as often as you can now

[honest island]

latin america server at launch didn't think it was a match, imagine now that most players have already left, generally having to play north america with a leg with a hacker, the game has gone from food and drink to here and downhill, look who made it into the top 5 most played games at launch it is now below the top 50 team building problems ranked in Latin America disabled 1 season all hacker unbalanced skills... game is good and had a future but bad management in that I was thinking about going back to playing more apparently and Waste of time will take away the medium's recognition ability but will leave invisibility with the light ones and shield with the heavy ones...

[stiff zodiac]

COULD SOMEONE HELP ... my game folds mid tourny game atleast twice a day and now i have 30 mins suspension. why does it fold

[foggy orbit]

This is what he doesn't understand, it's not about stabbing twice as often, you can add a delay after the stab, it's the time it takes to perform the initial stab, it's too long, too much stuff happens within that time making something that should have been a backstab not a backstab.

[keen lily]

lol at plat 3 the game requires you to win a tournament if you want to rank up, what a bullshit. solo queue makes absolutely zero sense thanks to it

[spare yacht]

Me (gold 3) and friend (silver 4) get placed in a game with a team with 3 diamond players? why

[fiery patio]

when beard update?

[normal locust]

Cm needs to improve anti-cheat system. now we meet every 1-2 matches cheaters.

[rain ocean]

The ranked system is terrible I keep getting matched up with missing teammates and people who sit in corners doing nothing. Like, not AFK, but actually doing nothing. They'll spin around in a corner so they don't get kicked. Gating a circuit challenge behind it was a terrible idea. It actively puts me off from playing the game, and this is as someone who has 200 hours in the game already.

[drowsy aspen]

This is the reason tons of players quit. Its the worst experience of any competitive FPS game to play as a solo. For that reason bad players and casuals that only play with friends wont play on thier own to practice or to play for fun so people just quit.

[visual bronze]

PLEASE REMOVE TEH SNIPER FROM POWER SHIFT its such a bad game mode because of it i HATE geting my health deleted in 2s from four lights useing snipers the game mode isnt worth playing because of it. bunny bash is awsome and fun

[wary hedge]

🤫🧏‍♂️ Bye Bye

[jolly aurora]

The problem is people keep trying to play this game like it's any other competitive fps. But you can't because it's not just about the guns. The ttk isn't fast, there isn't a 1 shot head kill like on siege or cs. It's an actual team oriented game which I don't think a lot of these people who play the other fps like because it requires more thinking and strategy

[normal condor]

Add RPK for heavies

[glacial knot]

Agree

[chilly sage]

Had two people leave in the last knockout round of a ranked tournament. Thanks guys. Just know I hate you.

[halcyon orchid]

That's the people the game is not to blame if they do not know how to differentiate between competitive and casual they can not do anything or I see it that way.

[bold bone]

This isn't valid I feel like, because Overwatch is literally one of the top dogs of FPS right now. That is definitely a team game, you cant just pick genji and frag out of your mind because you'll just get fucked by moira or somethin. The market for team based games definitely exists in the current fps market, and thats not the reason for the game's decline. I'll try to post what I think the reason is after this slowmode is up.

[glacial storm]

exactly. if you learned how to use the gun before the patch and actually got good at using it to its strengths, the gun is worse now. it burns through ammo more quickly than it used to, it can't melee combo any more, it can't frag/rocket + 1 shot to kill a medium any more, it has a much lower damage per mag, and much lower range. you need 6 fucking shots to kill a heavy at 22 meters now. the ks-23 used to 4 shot heavies at 30 meters. the difference is night and day. the gun is nowhere near as versatile as it used to be.

[dusky stag]

I feel you man

[rustic sorrel]

“CROSSPLAY NEEDS TO BE ENABLED TO CREATE AND JOIN A PRIVATE MATCH”

Anyone else experiencing this issue in Private matches?

My family and I all play in the same house together…

We have two PC, two Xbox S, and one PS5.

We play regular matchmaking all day with no issues together regardless of the system.

But lately when we get together in a private match we are met with this message.

We all have crossplay on and play together frequently.

WTF?!

[civic igloo]

can you try making a new party and then try again? so leave the party, then invite them again, then go to custom match. worked for me before when i had the same problem

[glad lance]

For April 1st every year, have special voice lines like in Overwatch! And goofy stuff in general. Maybe make it so in unranked, the classes' gadgets and specializations are swapped and stuff. Fun chaos for 24h once a year.

[lyric parrot]

No reg hits with sword.

This happens when you are in the air and combine your dash and lunge attack. You'll get the hit-sound, but the target will take no damage. Spectators will also see the lunge attack "land", but not register. This problem occurs very frequent and can easily get reenacted inside practice range on bots.

[stark maple]

I just got headshot in a fraction of a second by a heavy from across the map. Good job on the cheater problem...

[silver forge]

Cheating has gotten arguably worse since season 2. Really unfortunate

[keen skiff]

This is my favorite fps game, but the matchmaking really sucks somehow. from my experience it's almost never a close game, there's always that one super stacked team that clears the rest. communication also stinks and it's not even the devs fault cuz its the players that won't join voice chat. to end on a positive note though, thanks for actually listening to your community Embark. you've made a great and unique game, it just needs some fine-tuning!

[versed cloud]

Let us see our fame points already, I am sick of this hamster wheel feeling while playing ranked.

[tough anchor]

Make a small cutscene where nama tama is disappointed in you for leaving a ranked match

[vernal hemlock]

When I aim and press shift (because I planned to run after shooting), I stop aiming and this often prevents me from killing the enemy. please make the right mouse button a priority over the shift button. in other words, make it so that aiming cannot be interrupted by running

[smoky lily]

i have not had a single game today without cheaters, really hoping devs do something about this

[median path]

Crazy didn’t think I’d run into cheaters. But man they make it so obvious lol. Running miles away while cloaked. Hid in a corner. As soon as the dude comes in my screen, while still being cloaked, his gun locked into me right away making his body spin fast af and kills me in one shot with the ak. Insane

[jolly aurora]

Yeah I'll stand corrected, also forgot about Apex too which I was a big fan of

[half moat]

Got into the discord so I could moan about getting a penalty for leaving a tourney after both of my own teammates left. Devs pls fix and then repay my minor plight with a major rank boost thx🙏.

[prime sand]

Yea I'm diamond and get put with gold -> diamond cheaters every game.. Full blatant, I swear this game doesn't have an anti cheat 😂

[rough herald]

i also would like to say that melee also counter the GL as the self damage make it a neutral fight at best unless midrange+ . theres a reson why boom rushing a gl user is a counterplay
if you don't like my frist suggestion i like to remind you that i also wire another suggestion being the "GL still doing self damage but don't reset regen timer"

[echo void]

Day 2 of asking The Finals to add CD/DVD Skin to throwing knives

[whole violet]

10 seconds is way too fucking long to regen health, it’s clearly balanced around having a Healing Beam which is stupid. Absolutely horrible for solo Q

Rank changes

Add more ranks, the match making for this game is usually 1 diamond team queue with 3 silvers/gold teams. Either dia team stomps the whole lobby or they get targeted by everyone.

leading to that, Turn off Shown ranks for the entire lobby, keep it where it’s only your teammates that can see your rank. It shouldn’t be the whole entirely lobby, which leads to targeting and it not fun for both parties here. Or fix your match making and it can stay.

buff anti cheat or smth, feels like lately cheaters are more in rank then ever. Maybe rank requires a phone numbers to able to play? Just a suggests for that.

For now, give us rank restrictions. Let’s say the highest player in your squad is Diamond 1. You can only queue with people that are plats and gold 1 only. So one rank and 1/4 below. This would help out matches where lobbies can be filled with the correct rank/skill level match. Until we get more ranks in the game

Dia 4 still the same. Only plats and gold 1

Plats —> gold and silver 1 only etc..

29th/2024 -

So far rank is a bit better match making, either due to the fact that more people are now more plats and more diamond now or acutally the game is doin it’s job. But there still some cases of the same thing all over again. And even new ones being 3 dia teams and one gold team in a match.

5s for Light
5.5s for Medium
6s for Heavy

[shut bane]

Improve aim assist

[maiden thunder]

Flash bang hit markers should not proc on pads, zips and teammates

[stone phoenix]

i cant find a rank match today, ive been non stop sitting in the lobby waiting the que

[versed cloud]

I understand why it would go off on a teammate, but on ziplines and jump pads is just ridiculous

[coral axle]

practice range that you can join with friends (max 3) with a vs mode, and a bigger updated range

[burnt dawn]

i definitely think power shift would be better if the winner was based on who got it furthest. (#overwatch)

[jolly aurora]

Remove stun gun from lights and replace it with Flashbangs from the Medium. Give them a charge of 2 like the frags and you're set

[timber gulch]

FIX THE BUG WHERE IT KICKS U OUT OF PARTIES

[vagrant pollen]

Add different color palettes to a cosmetic item. Better yet with customizable elements. Think fortnite skin

[pseudo latch]

I fully understand the idea of a delay being added, you never once mentioned that as a consideration. With the current delay, cutting the windup in half is cutting the windup in half. With no changes ever stated to the recovery time, you insinuate a massive buff when all dagger really needs is QoL, and backstabs actually registering properly.

[foggy orbit]

Either way the initial delay before the stab needs to be reduced, we should be able to hold our backstab charge, and we need better hitreg on the back, sounds like a lot but the dagger is still going to be insanely difficult to use in ranked, but at least someone that has mastered cloak and dagger can get more use out of it.

[hazy depot]

is there any reason why we cant gift cosmetics/battlepass to friends? or just smth they havent added yet

[shut bane]

Buff aim assist

[rustic sorrel]

We sure have. We left party, toggled the setting, reset game, reset system, changed who made the game, and changed who was party leader for each team. Still not working.

[cosmic atlas]

why was normal tournament removed 💀 I dont like the pressure of ranked every time I wanna play tournament

[shy token]

BANANA BUNDLE

Make it so that the Banana is present in some way or another

Banana revolver, Banana magazines for AK, Banana tac vest cosmetic, Banana holster tac trousers...

The possibilities are endless!!

Let Embark know that we want the yellowest berry to have it's own bundle!!!!

[solar cradle]

I'm so glad I finished the challenges for power shift and don't have to play it anymore.. horrible mode that's the feedback ... horrible mode

[lofty plover]

Can the devs fix ranked, can never find a game in au

[pulsar cosmos]

I know the spawns in this game are always a hot topic, but please in the final round stop spawning people at the other unstarted cashout when there is only one cashout available

[astral dune]

Power shift is the worst game mode by far :/

[steady vortex]

text chat pretty please

[smoky gust]

How about a fruit bundle instead?

I really want a combustible lemon skin for my pyro grenade, im sure there is potential to make some stuff like this and put it into a set

Maybe kind of as ad for new ospuze flavours

New fruity drinks, very fitting for the summer update

[glacial knot]

If its not the matchmaking which sucks , its player disconnect , so for me the finals is over. Bye bye Never to be seen again. I guarantee you , now you are ingoring your community, but one day you will be forced to do what your community suggests otherwise game will happen like what happene to battlefield 2042 😉

[maiden trail]

Can we have a way to turn off pings? It's annoying having to sit through five minutes of pings because our diamond teammate keeps running in by himself and gets melted

[vocal cave]

they cant really control who disconnects can they, punishments for disconnecting are already there and if u just dont lose elo if someone disconnects it can be abused

[sick temple]

30 minutes waiting on ranked and still waiting

[glacial storm]

literally every game has leavers 😭 you get an increasingly longer ban the more and more ranked games you leave, which is more than many games do. you're complaining about something that every single competitive online game has, playing another game does not avoid your issue.

[celest coyote]

i'm new to this game. My rank is only gold 3. Every time I want to play a ranked match, diamond or plat guys come up against me and my team always silver or bronze. Why are matches so bad.

[jagged cedar]

And also give it a 50% chance to instantly explode the knife user. I mean it's supposed to be high risk high reward right 🤷

[tranquil mango]

nah its peak,, i love running against a 3 stack diamond team when i solo q

[languid lotus]

im getting very tired of the cheaters, aint no way these people are getting only headshots. especially if im flying mach 5 across the map from a jump pad and the dude is on the other side of the map with an LH1. there are new exploits and cheats out, even seen some broken aimbots on my team

[lofty plover]

The devs royally fucked ranked. It’s unplayable in aus, meaning you can never find a game over here. I have searched over and over for up to an hour looking for a ranked game. This is just bullshit

[lean birch]

BUGS
Fix the bug of not being able to use weapons,specializations and utilities, it happens very often when you spawn,you have to die and use coins to return to normal,its frustrating and makes you stop playing
Some white floors,after dematerializing or breaking,maintain their texture so that you can shoot or fall if you step on them,but you can't see through them
Ranked
Fix matchmaking system on ranked(higher ranks fall in matches with lower ranks,giving them privileged)
Show progress on ranked and be more transparent with the scoring you use
Anti cheat
Improve your anti cheat(We all know that in even big company games,cheaters are there,and it won't be any different in the finals)
Weapons and specialization
Nerfs weapons that don't need to aim,such as flamethrowers,grenade launchers,swords(in an FPS game these weapons need to have bigger bullet drop,smaller range,less bullet,longer reload time or smaller hit box,so that the player who has the skill of aim has a chance against those who don't,is it a competitive game or not?)
Increase a weapon's recoil or decrease damage isn't the only way to nerf it
L Invisibility could be slightly more visible(So that it becomes balanced by its speed,size and weapons with high cadence)
H Hand shield could be slightly nerfed(So that it makes sense how much life and the number of bullets your weapons have)
Toxic players
There are toxic players who disrupt the game(so that this doesn't happen frequently,the option to block players so that they don't join your team again)
Console
Enable mouse and keyboard on console(because you made the game crossplatform to have more players,so why not give them the opportunity to play against each other as equals?aim assistance is a joke)
Optimize the game for console,at least for the new generation(enable 120 fps and fix the crash and the drop performance problem)
PC
NVDIA DLSS isn't making any difference in the game
Number of players
Invest in marketing,streammers

[shut bane]

Improve aim assist

[foggy orbit]

There is around 1 second of recovery time so I don't understand your problem

[tacit bronze]

This ranked season is so bad.

1. No way to check your progress on ranking up.
2. And because of the contracts solo queuers have to deal with playing alongside people who I don't think even have their monitor turned on (seriously, I haven't even seen players this incompetent in quick play... respectfully...). Then when they run out of tokens they abandon the match. And no one has voice enabled so there's no communication besides the very limited pinging/radio system. Because for some reason there's still no in game text chat!?

[lofty socket]

+20 minutes looking for ranked just for the contract xd.

[normal locust]

damn, let me help you to hate them too.

[dull elm]

No idea if this is possible but a coins discount during an event

Like make the €20 one €15 or something

I think it would convince so many people to spend more money

[devout ferry]

@smoky gust that’s a good idea! And for the vanishing bomb since it’s already purple, that could be a a giant grape or a bushel.

[slow zenith]

shields shouldn't block melee

[regal ferry]

please don't remove bank it

[turbid heath]

WE NEED A TDM MODE!!

[lofty crypt]

Fix your anti-cheat otherwise you will soon have 0 players

[jaunty pawn]

Can you improve the visibility of the throwing arc

[grizzled kestrel]

Give the defibrillators to light instead of medium

[brittle obsidian]

9 contestant slots

[fervent vortex]

That is the worst take in human history

[pseudo latch]

A second my ass. Its barely over half of one. you cut down the windup by over half and again, youre basically cutting the whole animation down by almost half. RMB is already hella spammable it does not need to be even faster. I fully agree the actual "back tracking" is sloppy, but you want THIS to be faster? you must be joking https://clips.twitch.tv/LitigiousPiliableSnakeTTours-XLt1Zv1sJcs6asLV?tt_content=url&tt_medium=clips_api

[prime sand]

9 games in a row now against cheaters in diamond que. Full toggle blatant cheaters lmfao 😂 im convinced the "anti cheat" is a cosmetic item

[fast rover]

easiest and most effective balance: have 1 character per team. always L M H. easy..

[severe wave]

WHY do i lose 100 placements when i get a final round win, after a 3 round knockout and then a final round lose. HOW can i lose points from that shouldnt i get ons of points and get up in the leaderboard.... Instead i lose so many placements. Wtf is this stupid system. Trash ass ranked system embark wtf are you doing. Ranked is already completely dead on console and on pc its somewhat alive change this damn ranked system or atleast show the points its so wierd. I should gain like 1k points from those 3 games instead i prob lose because the system is trash. Never saw a ranked system besides the one in csgo where you cant see your progress...... @languid lotus Bro i have a 1.8kd and im dia 4 was very close to dia 3. Like i say i won a final round after got kicked out in the third round and after i had a final Round lose. All in the span of like 1 hour or more idk HOW can i lose 100 Placements from that people didnt even really get up this system is trash. I think the ranked system is bugged where u sometimes even in a final round lose points because the game thinks its a first round knockout. MAKES no sense. Kinda want to quit and its not only me already 90% of my mates left. que times on console are horrible and so many people left again. Idk about pc but pc doesnt look good aswell

[late peak]

Make it possible to use emotes in the lobby!

[languid lotus]

and what rank are you? what was your k/d? they use MMR and point system

[placid hazel]

god no that is a terrible idea

[iron solar]

in the menus, could we get different icons for different game modes?

[wise bear]

I feel like it may be beneficial to reduce the number of rounds in a tournament by 1.

Less players required for a tournament, quicker queues, less time requirement, more games.

[junior halo]

fun game

[sleek blade]

Add MnK to console embarkorinos

[frigid nexus]

FYI, you get warnings if you use abrasive language when you complain

[harsh panther]

This is bullshit

You should not be put up against diamond players when you have silvers in your lobby

[teal minnow]

turn on crossplay

[burnt plume]

we want server in UAE

[languid lotus]

hot take:
remove LMH, add a single character that you can customize body factors for like size and str, agility. add attachments to guns and add weight limit/speed penalties depending on weight

[foggy orbit]

It takes around 2 seconds to do 2 stabs. My focus is not on how frequently you can backstab, it's about making the initial stab fast enough so it can keep up with the fast pace action and not lose out on backstabs that should have been awarded.

Edit: My mistake, I said one second of recovery time, I was wrong, it's around 600ms of recovery time, but a one second interval between each backstab. I would be fine with 300ms of charge up time and a 1s - 1.5s recovery time.

[marble lintel]

buff the heavy shotgun this thing is so shit, either up the fire rate or make it a normal pellet shotgun

[glacial knot]

Cheaters rank diamond took all cash out people are cheat obvs without worries to get banned

[turbid heath]

Need mates

[twin cave]

More casual modes i guess, Power Shift made me like the game more, mostly because as a solo queue the other modes are pretty punishing, even if i play good teammates most of the times dont (or viceversa sometimes), so bigger teams modes help balance it out.

Stuff like TDM or Dom. etc.., maybe with their own spin on it or something, would be cool imo, gives more variety and replay-ability other than more varied challenges to complete and so maybe more XP opportunities.

other feedback: the tournament win in the circuit challenges even though i did it, (in ranked, since there's only that atm) it's kinda evil, since it can be up to matchmaking essentially too, maybe should've started at winning certain rounds of it and then in the masters circuit is where the win a whole one challenge is, so it's more progressive rather than random challenges! Also hoping the circuit progress will reset every season with new rewards, because the XP that it gives out improves a lot the progression (both BP and Career), i essentially play only if i have challenges to do because it is pretty slow without any, also i feel there's pretty little actually free earnable stuff in the progression as a whole, maybe circuits can have more earnable items for each challenge or one with and next not and so on.

[quick coyote]

Melee counters CL? What?? I play nothing but melee and there's no fucking way you can kill CL unless they suck ass. Once you get in range they just shoot twice at their feet and kill you, very likely with a sliver of health left or just die with you. And with your suggestion, there's a chance this CL player can just keep shooting at his feet while regenerating health. I'm sorry man but these suggestions just don't work for a weapon that already denies an entire class. Again, I'm all in for a CL rework that makes it deal high damage on direct hits but with much less AOE.

If by any chance there's an argument that I'm just a light melee main and like to complain, I did try the weapon more than once, and I can confidently say any player with some experience on projectiles can easily bamboozle anyone with this weapon as it deals 110 on directs (as far as i know).
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1182330398299140127/1222721820562558986/Replay_2024-03-28_03-26-25-00.00.16.168-00.00.28.633-00.00.05.720-00.00.14.084.mp4?ex=66173f6f&is=6604ca6f&hm=fb8de34c8ecd78a27b3cc3cc93bc9e80bf00dc68d62120b87284b8de75417163&

[covert ermine]

did they change medium nade launcher? it does more damage and seems to do no self damage to the people that use it?

[cedar haven]

We shouldn’t drop rank if our teammate disconnects in ranked

[tame crag]

Ranked is in a very tough position right now. I have an unranked member on my team and a triple diamond team in the same match

[pearl garden]

I'm super hesitant to write this as this is mostly my opinion and based on discussions with actively playing friends but since season 2, I find that with the new "daily / weekly / career circuit" most people tend to not play the game modes as intended in order to grind the XP for unlockables. When compared to season 1, I found it was more balanced in my opinion.

I love progression systems and XP unlockables as much as anyone but I find that this season's mechanics are affecting the core game a lot more than before. I get that most F2P games need to have that grind / reward system to keep it fresh and I love what Embark is doing with the finals. I haven't played a game that much since a long time and truly love what the team is doing and grasp that balancing everything must be incredibly hard to do so I feel grateful for the weekly updates and patches, balancing tweaks.

I'm maybe just worried moving forward what impact quests will have on the core gameplay. Thanks in advance for taking the time to read this everyone and looking forward to your take on it!

[placid cobalt]

So, In a game, last round of Ranked, (1v1 teams), my team gets wiped. they get the cashout machine with what i would say is a quarter of the timer left on it. which meant at that point it's game-over for my team, because even if you do miracously get to the machine the timer doesn't pause (as far as i'm aware) so there is no incentive to play. no clutch plays which is a real shame.

[shut bane]

Improve aim assist

[jolly aurora]

The dailies aren't that bad anymore since you can spend VRs to change reroll the contract

The weekly/circuits can be challenging but that's the point. You also have the entire season to do them so it's not like you need to be in a rush to complete them

[upper saddle]

Most Refined Riot Shield Balance Feedback I can possibly muster-

The Weapon's under-tuned but also impossible to balance properly and fairly for both the user and opponents however with limited room for Damage/Personal benefits on the Shield future changes on it should be in the utility it can provide for the team with the exception of increasing it's damage from 84 to 88 so Eliminating Heavies is less of a daunting chore without effecting it's perfectly balanced TTK against Lights and Mediums.

Utility in the form of restoring it's interaction with mines (sliding over mines to disarm them was so much fun, but so was just crouching on them and bonking them) to allow for the team to push more aggressively after You lead the entry functioning as the bomb squad.

Currently after we master the art of angling the shield towards attackers right clicking to raise the shield feels like a near useless mechanic although increasing the movement speed of our characters while the shield is raised is something I realize hurts the skill expression of the riot shield and hurts the average player's experience with it on the other end so I think a protective energy shield akin to the mesh shield activating specifically when raised (holding the right click) is an ideal change as I've mentioned before- a miniature mesh shield extending slightly up from the top of the shield and slightly down from the bottom from the riot shield and then to the left and right with about half a riot shield's width on both sides with 250-300 total hit points before breaking and having a recharge similar to the normal mesh shield to better embody a defensive weapon and help us protect our allies and fill the utilitarian role the weapon seems almost meant to.

I feel with these three changes the Riot Shield will be perfect and finally with that, unless it gets nerfed in some way again I'mma shush up about it in here for a good long while.

[river current]

rebuff sa1216(diffusion and range)

[proven parcel]

Why should a competitive shooters leaderboard be a competition of whoever has more playtime? Why are the same cheaters since open beta 1 still not banned? If you see a cheater in a twitch stream how is it not simple enough to instant ban them after watching them shoot thru shields? Does embark make and sell cheats for their own game?

[prime sand]

probably lmfao

[humble osprey]

Make keyboard and mouse compatible with ps5

[near snow]

do something about invis stun gun. its the most annoying thing in the game and takes no skill to use

[umbral pebble]

I'm very sad that I can't combine the Ozepuze mask with a helmet

[silver forge]

I'm sorry but no, this sounds like a you problem. I haven't heard any reputable controller player complaining about aim assist

[thin turret]

How do I send pictures in here

[runic current]

do they not show you how much rank you gained form each game anymore?? i cant find it after games and it only shows my rank

[slow zenith]

is SYS$HORIZON at a 90% chance of being played in ranked or is it just me ? i'd like to play other maps from time to time

[river plover]

It does feel like they increased the chance of Horizon so more people could play it in the new season :P
I do also want to play other maps instead of just Horizon 3 out of 5 matches tho

[sinful gazelle]

On to balancing now. I know the dev teams are trying their best at balancing, but I feel like just nerfing things over and over again and eventually removing them is the wrong way to do it. Rather than nerfing and eventually removing them, why not add counterplay to them? Take the example of the "nuke". I was fine with the nerfs so far in season 1, but in season 2, you guys decided to completely make the nuke useless. There were so many ways you could approach it, either make other gadgets able to counter it better, or make the nukes themselves more risk-reward. Instead, you opted to over-nerf it to the ground. You guys do say that you go off by data for balancing, but it feels like it's more about listening to the wrong side of the community, aka the whiners, and not the competitive and passionate casuals. Some reason of yours of "removing" stuff is so you can work it out later on. I would much rather you guys keep it in the game and still actively balancing it out rather than the lazy way of removing it now and fixing it later. Afterall, removing it does change the game and meta, which changes isn't bad once in a while but I feel like having it in and changing it through time is a much better and healthier way.

Part2 and that’s all

[zinc fern]

Bring back unranked tournament, and make the face mask you make us earn be able to be worn with glasses or something🤦🏻‍♂️

[low obsidian]

do devs ever check this channel I have a major exploit that is almost impossible to counter and cost me a ranked tourney

[quick coyote]

replace the lights Cloak speciality and Stun Gun gadget with something that compliments team play more, light is a very selfish class and i think that’s the reason it just doesn’t work in comp

[gentle ether]

Better Anticheat. Why use Easy Anticheat when It doesn't even keep people from cheating AND it blocks software that isn't malicious?

[dreamy gull]

If you play it right, it’s very viable. Stun gun works extremely well on someone trying to steal your cash out. As soon as you hear it getting stolen, you cloak, go in and stun the stealer, either kill him quick, or just get out quick and postpone the steal. It’s a very good tactic. I’ve been medium main entire last season up until last night. Also Light class only works if your team is doing their part.

[shut bane]

Yeah bro aim assist is good but there’s problem

Its good only for low sensitivity
I wanna play at high sensitivity

[woeful arch]

I'm a casual player, I don't usually do FPS games; please don't force me to play game modes I don't care about in the official game content like Career Circuits. They aren't optional since they give 8k points towards the Battle Pass. I'd understand if they were part of a track of players who want to discover all aspect of the game.

I don't care for Power Shift, it's not balanced and I feel miserable playing it. I respect that others love it, so I don't join it not to ruin their games - unless the game forces me to do that, in order to get one more level in the Battle Pass.

I don't care for ranked tournaments. I just got matched with a Diamond player along with another unranked player and felt sorry for the Diamond player being stuck with us, two people who mostly are clueless and do it for the sake of Career Circuits. I've played since Season 1 but will stop playing if it's down to being forced to playing game modes that casuals don't care for. I don't want to ruin other people's games, just have a good time and pick what makes me feel more comfortable.

[sharp willow]

w matchmaking

[uneven prism]

dats true every nerf every update its just worst nd worst for casual players no wonder y the players r leaving

"FiXEd AnD iMpRoVeD MaTChMaKiNG" in every update still doesnt do shit

[last kite]

During a recent tournament run, one of my teammates was disconnected from the game at the start of Knockouts 2. I have no idea if the teammate in question had connection issues that kicked him out of the game, of if he ragequit after we got wiped in the first 30 seconds of the match, but both my remaining teammate and I struggled to place second in the match. We eventually lost in Knockouts 3, but the fact that we were forced to play against three full squads with a man gone is frustrating and unfair. Now I'm not saying that if one person disconnects, then the team should automatically be disqualified, but if any person is kicked due to a connection issue, then they should be given the chance to reconnect immediately as quickly as they can. Embark dev team, I doubt if you are reading this, but if you are, you should implement a reconnect feature, especially if these disconnects happens in tournaments.

[teal minnow]

Add a DeathMatch mode to the game where 12 players are fighting (like solo bank it) no cashouts only kills , the first player to get 40 kills wins

[upper tangle]

I think you can leave the match with no penalty and you have a lot of time to reconnect ithink 😄 so your mate was just salty

[dreamy marlin]

Honestly i think you're exaggerating a little, yes if you want to finish the battle pass before middle of the season sure you have to do every single challenge in the career circuit and it makes sense, if you want to do it fast sorry bro but you are gonna have to grind, how ever if you don't want to just play normally and at least you're gonna end up finishing at least 3 or 4 challenges with out realizing it, and you will probably end the battle pass at 3/4 in the season, i mean you have like 3 months my dude if you want to chill then chill don't expect to finish the battle pass fast if you don't grind, and about the match making is far from perfect but is improving, im plat 4 and is really rare to find a dimond team or a bronce team, i just find gold 1 some diamond but mostly plats like me

[pearl pelican]

dont get me wrong, I hate cod and its pay to win style of gaming. But I feel like one thing every game can learn from cod on a positive note is their cosmetics. I would love to see some really high detailed, medieval, sci fi reactive type skins.

[covert ermine]

have you not seen the highress stick weapons? ;)

[wooden ore]

i absolutely hate when the timer starts counting down and the game ends when they're like at 7 seconds it confuses the hell out of me

[fallen mirage]

If the sensitivity of your controller is increased, aim assist becomes a little more responsive. It’s literally a minor assist when your crosshair is just to the edge of the target so don’t expect any more than that…:)

[stone hazel]

snipers make this game so boring dude theyre not even slightly fun to play with or against

[deft hornet]

Mouse and keyboard support on console would be perfect

[mint drum]

Ranked sistem is too difficult we need to win the tournament for get one rank

Could be better that qualifing to finals and lose gives to you the rank too

[fresh juniper]

respawn coin and renimations stats are swapped

[median path]

How about a game mode where the classes can use any of the guns, gadgets and abilities

[summer elk]

Hey again Embark! I'd take a read, let's talk sometime!
https://discord.com/channels/1008696016318513243/1219805311288737822

[woeful arch]

Exactly, removing Unranked Tournaments when one of the Career Circuit requirement is winning a tournament...? Who was the genius who pushed this idea? That's a kick in the balls (and I don't have balls so I empathize with the pain lol).

And also the lack of aim assist when you're playing with a controller on PC. I was fine with that seeing how it was abused. But it didn't remove the auto-aim script users cheaters from playing the game, while casual controller players are still not having an optimal game. So that, plus the forced game modes, and most modes being sweaty (Power Shift could be far more chill), it's like... are you sending us a signal Casual Players, that you don't want us, our time and our money...?

Cause there's plenty of games to play out there. Love The Finals but some of the decision making lately are starting to be off putting. We'll see what comes next in the Career Circuit. If it's more of the same as this week, there won't be a Season 3 for me, that's for sure.

[astral dune]

Please rework or remove stun gun

[heavy vortex]

is their a way to tumb up or down feedback in this channel?

[west trellis]

Solo queueing ranked without a third is not really that cool

[chilly badge]

Couldn't agree more.
The best example would be the weekly for damaging players on the power shift platform. It seems that most of the time, people are farming this weekly and instead of rushing on the platform to try to win, everyone is on the roof waiting for player to go on the platform in order to get their 3K dmg. In my experience, at least 50% of recent games on power shift are people focusing on that weekly and make the game mode not that fun (at least for me) since most arent playing the objective.

Also, while it is not the fault of the dev team, it seems hacking has becoming more frequent, just more subtle than in season 1. Back in season 1, people didn't even bother hiding themselve cheating as it was more than obvious when observing the player, but i see excessively shady behaviors in the last 2 weeks where some players tend to know exactly where other players are and use gadgets or prefire according to this.

Im not a very good player, I consider myself decent at best. I recognize players when they are very good and there is a lot of good players around, especially in ranked tournament. But damn do I see a lot of shady players in Quick play to a point I'm wondering if I want to spend more time on the game...

I know hackers vs devs is an unending war and like I said I'm not blaming the devs for the issue but when a simple search on Google can help you find dozens and dozens of potential (even free) esp / aimbots, Im wondering if theres anything Embark and/or Nexon can do against it in a legal way since EAC does not seem to be enough to minimize the situation.

[humble osprey]

Make keyboard and mouse compatible with ps5

[jolly aurora]

Wondering exactly why we'll get penalized for wanting to leave a tournament when a teammate leaves first or gets kicked for being afk and doesn't come back. How come the other players get screwed and have to stay and get destroyed?

[white elbow]

make my "diamond" teammates not 1-8 please
solo queue is actually atrocious this season

[keen lily]

its the worst it has ever been, after hitting plat 3 I need a tournament win to rank up and I've been grinding the past 2 days nonstop and didn't get this with randoms, gotta stop playing this game solo

edit: also the win required to go from plat 4 to plat 3 I got when it matchmaked a cheater into my team lol

[opal hollow]

This would be great to add it when it's a minute away. The Final Countdown 🎵🎵: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9jK-NcRmVcw

[clear crystal]

Change stun gun to glitch gun

[glossy compass]

thats mean

[thin turret]

Do something about uneven teams. I loaded in the game SOLO. The ONLY PLAYER ON MY TEAM IN RANKED. Pissed me off and lost FP because of it. Allow people to back out and not lose FP if they were at a disadvantage in player count. Honestly, @clear crystal , I 100% wholeheartedly agree with you

[lunar creek]

Forget everything and focus on the cheater epidemic on the Asia servers. Tough decisions need to be taken with regards to this issue. I can't play the game any longer in its current state unfortunately. It is sad since everything about the game is amazing, from gameplay mechanics to visuals. As a person who avidly looked forward to this game, this is just heart breaking to watch. I do not wish to see this excellent title die in Asia servers.

[unreal crown]

It ruins the experience for everyone.

[quick coyote]

it’s a good tactic, sure, but that alone doesn’t make the light class a good team player

[tough merlin]

Tbf the "right players" is subjective, Everyone thinks there right lol.

[signal root]

Like me, I’m right 🤓

[gleaming kindle]

Has anyone else experienced a bug with the vanish bomb where your character model stays invisible on your screen for the rest of the game after using it

[eternal kayak]

FIX THE RANKED SYSTEM DAMN

[river current]

rebuff sa1216(diffusion and range)

[woeful arch]

The problem right now is that for the Career Circuit you have to achieve 7/7 of the challenges (talking about the one that unlocked recently). It's not 7 of 12 different objectives, so I could pick the challenges I like best, no - I have to do every single one of them.

If I understand correctly, checking all boxes in the Career Circuit challenges (28 total challenges done I believe by end-season) is the only way to get the end-season Career Circuit reward. I do want the end-season Career Circuit reward, all I want is to be chill about how I get it.

If the end-season Career Circuit reward was a matter of "either you do 80% of the Career Circuit challenges listed OR you do 80% of the daily contracts listed this week" I'd be fine with that. But as I see it, I have to do 100% of the challenges listed in the Career Circuit. On top of that, some of the career circuit tracks have a timeout. Like one of them is closing down in 9 days so if you didn't hit the objectives by then... sucks to be you. So yeah you are pressured to do the content listed, and if the content listed is mostly things that you don't enjoy (game modes especially) then there's no way around it. I don't want to be locked out of game content altogether, I just want more options (casual ones) to go about acquiring it, if that makes sense. Challenges listed would ideally be a mix of objectives that appeal to all types of players so they can pick and choose what they like instead of getting them to reluctantly play some game content.

[clear crystal]

Agree 100% the win a tournament mission is basically impossible for me and I assume a huge chunk of the playerbase who don't want to or can't play ranked mode. OCE server never has a ranked game appear even if you queue for 30 minutes

[slim sun]

Change ranked please

[spiral bridge]

u only need 28 for circuit rewards theres like 65 more circuit missions for the rest of the season if u count pro and masters circuit that unlocks a bit later, its more like 28/93 circuits completion by the end of the szn for the circuit reward

[stark maple]

I miss just having daily and weekly challenges... dont care for any of the circuit stuff.

[hasty trout]

I bet unranked tournaments will be back after Bunny bash it's done

[tough merlin]

I don't think challanges are intended to be casual. They're intended to be something to do. The way they have the tiers laid out its going to get harder. its like wanting a pet skin out of a raid but not wanting to do the raid.

[dreamy marlin]

well I kinda get it and at the same time no, if they do challenges that you wouldn't had to put effort to complete them then why put them in the first place? challenges are implemented for 2 reasons, to keep the community engaged with cool rewards and to force players to play differently than they usually do (different guns, modes, classes) that's the point, the harder the challenges the better the prize, make cool rewards for easy challenges and there would be no point in having challenges, is a way to reward exploration and using different stuff. And the reason is also because people a lot of the times complain because a game is getting to repetitive but they play the same lodouts, modes, classes, every single time, and some times you can find that you actually like a gun or whatever if you try them, but you will never find out if you don't try, and a good way of encourage to do it is by challenges

[foggy orbit]

When we say we want the dagger to be improved this is why, absolutely no control over backstabs when multiple people are nearby, no way to hold the backstab charge so I can time exactly when to stab. @pearl kiln we have been pleading in #1213572237941284864 for you to pass this on to the balancing team.
The problems are the following:

• Unable to charge the backstab like in Open Beta
• Windup/Charge time is far too long, and gives enemies plenty of time to turn instantly or move outside the range of the dagger.
• Inconsistent backstab hitreg when behind enemies.

[lofty plover]

Look at the player base it says a lot right now. Unbalanced game af. Unnecessary changes and nerfs well needed

[dreamy gull]

Sonar grenade: Helps team know where players are.

Stun gun: Helps team from losing cashouts, and advancing to next round.

Goo Grenade: Helps team fortify/defend cash out or create cover to revive teammate.

Vanishing Bomb: Helps team vanish for a quick breath of fresh air.

Tracking Dart: Helps team follow enemy target on the move.

Glitch Grenade: Helps team by disabling turrets/ heavy shields / aps turret.

Yeah you’re right…light doesn’t help out the team…

[quick coyote]

Glitch is a great gadget, sonar is rarely used in higher ranks, i’ve seen goo grenade more recently but it’s still not great, no one uses tracking dart, vanishing bomb is good as well

[dusky night]

many cheaters atm. a lot of them also have the ability to shoot through shields so its just completely unplayable

[jovial blaze]

I have DLSS set to quality on 1080p

[quick coyote]

@pearl kiln
hey, me and a friend decided to quit a ranked game because a random teammate left completely and we got punished for that. did you guys changed how it used to work in season 1? so we now have to play ALL knockarounds with a group of two to avoid punishment? this is such a bummer.

[plucky perch]

@fickle linden what else can i try? I tried Capping the FPS but it keeps kicking me from the server still

[shut bane]

That is a problem

[thick sorrel]

Honestly, whats wrong with the medium shotgun? This spread is unreal! You shit your pants even at midrange, holy!

[humble osprey]

Make keyboard and mouse compatible with ps5

[bold flicker]

i am currently plat 3 ,got into 7 finals,won 2 and still havent ranked up.CAN WE SEE OUR POINTS PLEASE????????

[steep spear]

It feels like the sys$horizon map rate is through the roof can’t get any other map

[versed cloud]

Got 2nd place in 3 tournaments in a row and my rank WENT DOWN

[ivory badger]

Remove the glitch effect when you get teamwiped on the screen, it makes it quite difficult to tell the numbers on the screen, especially the money cashed by the teams

[woeful arch]

A raid is PvE content though...? And we are talking about PvP so I'm not sure why bring up this example in this context. Fighting against a PvE Boss is not at all the same as fighting against actual players, let alone winning a tournament against other players which is a hot issue here.

I have zero problem with doing harder content, I have an issue with not picking which type of content. Most games, including MMOs since we are on the topic of raids, include different type of content for you to do, to hit your weekly/daily/season objectives and again, in order to appeal to different type of players. If I don't want to do a raid, then maybe I want to fight one or multiple world bosses. If I don't want to fight a world boss, then maybe I can do Arenas or Warzones. And I don't have to win them, just play them.

All I'm talking about is, I want options that fit my play style and yes my play style is casual. I don't feel like winning some invisible badge by being a try-hard, I play games to chill and have fun. My posts above are not about asking for rewards to be easy or handed out, it's about asking for the activities to get those rewards, to be enjoyable and fit for different types of players. I can see playing and winning ranked tournaments being enjoyable for a part of the player base, however that's not the case for me so my feedback in this channel goes along that.

[solid narwhal]

Please add kbm back to console, controller is just too bland, also give us some modes to practice in like a run and gun aim practice where the npcs are not just standing still or being well.. npcs. Kind of like what call of duty does in their tutorials. Thanks for your time reading this! Also fix the cheating problem

[sleek flame]

Decrease the range of the turret or nerf the tracking

[lofty plover]

Don’t care, still don’t care

[severe wave]

turret is the most no skill ability in the game right now ngl whoever plays turret is always a horrible player 😂

[pseudo latch]

Day 21 of me begging the devs to give heavy an M134 Minigun as a Specialization.

• 200 Round magazine, ammo is restored two bullets every second, 100 seconds for a full reload.
• 20 rounds per second, eleven damage a round, 220 DPS
• Falloff begins at 30 meters down to six damage a shot at 50, but wide spread means the weapon becomes less effective past 10 meters even against larger targets
• bullets do high damage to structures, allowing a mid-range option to output mass destruction (destroying entire walls on higher floors of buildings, ripping apart nesting sightlines)
• • significant damage to structures and players
• • gun can be pre-spooled with RMB over having an ADS (for obvious reasons, you try to aim down the sights of a water cooler)|
• • high suppressive force through sheer amount of bullets being fired
• • its a goddamn minigun
• - Heavy cannot jump or sprint while holding it, has to switch back to primary
• - lengthy equip-unequip time to balance such
• - gun has to spool up for a second before firing, spool up being LOUD

Thanks for the reminder @near lava

[quick coyote]

what is this

[vocal ingot]

If they don’t add kbm support for console I will single handedly take down embark

[obtuse knot]

Men playing ranked in southamerica is sad. No server found and if u play in US server the ping is so high that with a lot of luck maybe You get one kill

[dreamy marlin]

its ok to dream my friend

[rough sequoia]

maybe you're just a god with the cl-40 nice clip btw

[tough merlin]

The raid comparison was for the context of wanting a reward but not wanting or being able to do the content. It doesn't really matter if its pvp or pve.

You want the skin you do the content that gos along with it not change the content because you don't like the content.

The same could be said for the current bunny bash the event. You could hate the event but if you want the cosmetics from it you have to do said event. I don't know why people think or want the career stuff to be different, other then most of the complaints stimming from it taking actual effort.

in your example of mmo's containing different content this does as well, you can play whatever mode you feel like whenever you feel like but if you want the rewards from xyz event/content then you have play said content. No ones forcing you to do the career part of the game just like no ones forcing you to raid.

Tho I will say having it timed shorter then the actual season is a bit scummy imo. I don't think you should be able to miss it if you join the season late/decide to do it late. Sure if you skip the season but that's not what it is.

To be fair i don't really mind if they make it easier. I just find it odd that people complain so much about it yet it follows a similar system as many other games in many other catagorys.

[thick sorrel]

So many obvious cheaters today, it's a shame. My game-feedback for you: No matchmaking with blocked players!
This way I don't have to deal with the same cheater twice. Thank you.

[foggy fable]

I thought they were just bots. Getting killed in like .001 sec in Asia servers. It's difficult to learn without proper tutorials and match-making is also fucked up. Match us with our own levels. Or i,ll have to go to CS2 again

[sick river]

having multiple places to fall off on seoul is so frustrating

[woeful arch]

I understand encouraging diverse play style, the kicker for me is down to asking people to "win" a specific type of game content, and ranked tournaments of all. It is counter-intuitive and cancels the other points made which are otherwise fair and understandable. I agree on those points, no problem at all.

I don't mind challenges being hard or requiring to put effort into them - I simply wish we had options like "play this content X time (small total) OR play this other content X time (higher total)". It's the same grind in the end, but maybe a player enjoys one grind over the other better, like they try one objective and are like "meh, that's not for me" so they go with the other in the end. More options for players as to how they personally want to work towards an objective would be appreciated is my point.

[merry totem]

I know you've gotten a bunch of feedback on your feedback already, and I also know many players agree with you, but it's not as if there is no content to unlock at each stage when 5/7 in the stage gets you an item. I have a tendency to want to complete everything, but speaking only for myself, I actually like that games like The Finals helps me work on this and be okay with not always being 100% on everything. As always, ymmv

[normal prawn]

The game is good but too many cheaters (in ranked) it's really terrible. I think the anti cheat is not working?

[drowsy aspen]

Basically impossible to play new classes if you have a high rank and havent yet played them because your mmr stays the same for each class so youll play against people with hundreds of hours at your mmr while you have effectively 1-10 or so

[round moon]

Add ranked progression please 🙏

[daring siren]

Is there any potential for the ranked mission from the new circuit to be replaced by something else? If not, I would love to have some longer form guaranteed way to get it. Gambling on whether or not I get good teammates on my level who can actually play as a team is basically impossible.

[muted thunder]

Every day I launch my game it takes 20-30min of troubleshooting to get it to actually launch and get me to the menu.

[atomic nimbus]

add a real anti-cheat system, a reporting system feedback , because we really have the impression that reporting is useless

[pale turret]

Season 2 still no text chat

[knotty smelt]

why is there still no mouse and keyboard support for console

[white sundial]

Why a specialisation

[pseudo latch]

Would be busted as a gadget or as a weapon.

[formal tinsel]

Add back elo tracking

[hasty citrus]

easy anti cheat more like easy cheating

[clear forum]

Proximity chat pls

[spare topaz]

I think it would be a nice feature to have a small tab at the bottom corner of the screen to display your last game's stats.
So you can go back again and check if needed to.

[drifting sapphire]

Yes, and I think they don't give a shit. Today I caught a cheater who I had already caught last week and he's still cheating. Last week he was gold 4, now he's probably in the top 500... I think they didn't pay the anti-cheat subscription haha, they don't say anything about it... dead game for sure

[woeful arch]

An MMO will usually reward your completion of the content (raid or other) with content-type currency, that can then be traded/converted into other content-type currencies allowing you to acquire the skin. I could farm World Bosses, get that currency and convert it into the raid-specific currency that allows me to get the skin. This is not a mechanism in The Finals.

Also, the skin that drops from raid content will not generally be bound to your character, you could sell it to /trade it with/buy it from other players which would skip the farming/grinding altogether. That is also not a mechanism in The Finals.

So MMOs that have rare/valuable skins usually have workarounds for acquiring said skin that wouldn't force players to play the specific content dropping it, if they didn't want to - unlike The Finals. And again, the problem is not asking to change the content, I'm fine with players who enjoy ranked tournaments. What I'm asking for, is diversity in the content to progress through the Career Circuit - I don't think there's anything wrong with asking to play other type of content than ranked tournaments, to level it up.

The other point: Bunny Bash doesn't require from me to win anything, only to participate. And not participating in Bunny Bash or any timed event does not translate to losing progress in the Career Circuit track, so it's trivial to the overall account progression unlike failing individual Career Circuit challenges (at least the ones to hit the 7/7 mark).

No ones forcing you to do the career part of the game just like no ones forcing you to raid.

No one is forcing me to give feedback for the game either, but the option to do it exists with this channel so I go with that. I don't just quit when I'm not happy about something, I voice my concerns and try to see what can be done. My point is to explain why the career progression is not working for casual players and suggest alternatives on how to improve it. Devs will decide ultimately what they do with this feedback, it's up to them, but they can't know what casual players think if we don't share our thoughts after playing the content.

I don't think you should be able to miss it if you join the season late/decide to do it late.

Hard agree, the FOMO is real 😂 It's definitely a big part of the pressure to get the content done. If the Career Circuit was evergreen like "win the ranked tournament whenever", then the mindset would be like "ok get good and do it later, when prepared". But with the season coming to an end in weeks, it feels pressuring.

Overall I think we agree on many points as we both want the game to be fun to play, no problem and thanks for your posts appreciate the replies

[keen tartan]

Add a fog to the power shift mode. The snipers are getting out of hand especially when they shoot like 100 ft away with aim bot perfect accuracy

[quick coyote]

the outfit possibilities are so much i personally use more than 10 sets of pre made outfits or self made ones more contestant slots would be lovely (around 10-12 {pretty please})

[scenic kiln]

yes

[fervent vortex]

Add ruby, we all know it’s in the files and they already leaked it themselves

[light crater]

Love it...game crashes while in ranked. Reboot the game and reconnect and some how I still get a suspension. Up to two hours now because of this EXACT issue. 3 days in a row

[eager mist]

it'd be really good if places like australia don't get circuit challenges like "win a tournament" as it's actually impossible to get in one without switching regions and being at 300-400 ping it's not really achievable and missing out on rewards because of one impossible challenge is kinda ass

[solid narwhal]

Controller is getting stale. It also has a skillcap, please give us back kbm on console.@half moat oh, im also trying to ask for input based matchmaking so that controller players don't get placed in matches with kbm players if they choose. Or they could just put us in pc lobbies. I didn't ask for it in this message bc I forgot though

[half moat]

Ignore this guy. @solid narwhal I’m mostly kidding but somewhat not because if controller has a skill cap, why should they let kbm on console to let them stomp the many controller players on console?
Ah yeah that’d be cool too.

[sacred sleet]

I really think that the ranked matchmaking should be adjusted with overall stats, thoughts?

[grave cloak]

I'm in love with all the old music, especially the endgame music. PLEASE, I'm begging, allow us to choose between pre-season 2 and post-season 2 music 🙏. + It would be a waste of all those masterpieces that took time to make.

[glacial knot]

Forget the anti cheat, The cheats developers are light years ahead. Check the picture out, the cheat run on other pc but through DMA hardware you can use it on your gaming pc. Impossible to detect because the anti cheat verify only your gaming pc where the game is installed.. continue sleeping dear devs. I said it all ready The only way to fight the cheaters is manually ban if you create a report channel so that we can share cheater game play or after certain amount of report automaticly ban. Other wise you can bring the best anti cheat in the world you will not be able to ban cheaters

[junior folio]

Is the player count at all concerning?

[sick river]

Sad times we live in sad times…

[daring siren]

no, not for this type of shooter honestly

[prime sand]

Hey brother! ☝️ You don't need this for The Finals; EAC or "Easy Anti Cheat" doesn't even start on boot so It doesn't have the same scanning capabilities that "Riot Vanguard" has. Theres a reason why the cheats for this game are $10 a month, because the anti cheat is lackluster. I hope the game succeeds; but if the anti cheat can't even detect someone who is full blatant. I.E. shooting through shields, barricades, and hitting 100% headshots, then the game will slowly die.

[junior dawn]

change the APS turret to have a set amount of charges (3-4) before it disintegrates. the fact that it can stay up for so long and never run out of charges like it does in real life (APS stands for active protection system and is used on military tanks) is ridiculous and OP for power shift

also, thermal vision needs to change so u can see invisible people. their heat signature doesn't disappear if they turn invisible it makes no sense

[hasty trout]

Would be ridiculously OP if they were indestructible

[half moat]

At the same time I want this because I use the cl-40 because it’s a pretty hard counter but 3-4 sounds too low because I could clear that with one reload from a distance

[astral dune]

For real. APS completely counters heavy grenade launcher and makes using medium grenade launcher an absolute nightmare. You should be able to burn an APS out with a mag or two, (just like bullet users can do to sheilds.)

Also on that topic why does the grenade launcher do like half damage to sheilds? A gun can destroy it in 1 mag but the GL takes 8-10 shots?

[native robin]

fix the matchmaking in this game

[muted void]

sword is kinda broken ngl

[opal socket]

Ranked progress bar 🙏

[modern wedge]

mehh debatable

[dreamy marlin]

nah you're tripping

[flint badge]

Headshot icons in killfeed

[amber grove]

Has there been a fix for the healing beam not working in some matches? I load up and it just doesn’t work. If this is old news I apologize!

[placid hazel]

dude I got silver teamates who sucked and I got put up aigasnt diamonds I dropped 20k 14 kills 1 roud teamates did 300 and died 12 ttimes w gamee

[waxen granite]

Neft fcar nerf fcar nerf fcar

[glacial knot]

Even vanguard has no chance against DMA cheating, for example if 2 whole teams or the whole lobby report someone he should be get perm banned automaticly , I don't think the whole lobby reporte someone in error but they are not really interesseted to fight cheaters.

[rotund coral]

Nah

[crude brook]

the map in tournaments should change every round for two reasons:

• allowing matchmaking to be done in parallel with the bracketing system

• a lobby of 4 teams is put together and they fight to qualify

• the winners are paired with winners of other matches at the same round of the tournament

• matchmaking would be quicker

• so there'd be room to make the skill gap of each lobby narrower with less impact on the time to get in game

• i'd imagine that this would make it easier to match parties against parties and soloq's against soloq's

going up against t500 3 stacks as a solo being grouped with players in silver or in far too many cases bronzes doesnt feel good,
and that reminds me: grouping with friends far below your own rank makes the ranked experience terrible. they oughta queue quick play

[dusk anvil]

With Battlepasses, was there ever any discussion of a system similar to Halo Infinite? Having battlepasses we can buy and work on over time without worry that we can miss out for those of us who work full-time? I know the seasons are really long and I haven't missed anything so far but it could be nice for more casual players. Amazing work btw on everything so far. I've never been more hyped for a game

[native robin]

please fix the fucking matchmaking in this game it is almost impossible to win the final round in ranked bc of how unbalanced this game is i know this game only has 20k players which isnt alot and you fight the same sweats and no life twitch teamers who are trying to make a name for themselves but please for the love of god dont make me fight against a fucking diamond 3 stack when im just silver 1

[eternal kayak]

My brother keeps getting error messages from matches then timed out each time out is longer than the last what’s going on? Are you guys going to fix this I understand wanting to punish players who quit matches but don’t punish willing players who are getting crashes and error messages.

[tribal orbit]

I know that this is a random question but why are there no lower body pants for the prismatic puffy jacket? I personally think that it would cool.

[sand mulch]

I've pretty much stopped playing entirely since the win 1 tournament challenge came out because I know as much as I play I'm never going to accomplish that one.

[tiny sage]

you done shit with the game code... everytime players play 3 vs 1 at turnament with 2 cashouts, because everyone spawn an the same one! stop switching spawns if one team dies. That destroyed the game... dont make fun anymore!

[junior dawn]

please remove the tournament requirement for the career path thing. its so stupid. i hate having to face these sweats. its not fun at all and forcing people to play ranked is such a jerk move.

and for those of you who think its fine because youre crazy good and sweat your balls off, youre unbelievably tonedeaf.

[wind gulch]

barrier goovement tech is the most fun I've had in hundreds of hours with the goo gun, pls keep it in

[shrewd dirge]

Another day of ranked, another day of playing a FULL TEAM of cheaters. Does Embark even ban cheaters or is the reporting system just a joke?

[quick coyote]

This is insufferable. Have mercy and show the dagger some love.

[raven wave]

Ranked matchmaking

its need really sepparate premade teams and solo players since as solo players its really pain to play with random team of gold,silver and platinum vs full dia teams....

At same time its super ez to "farm" ranks with full premade teams.

[full sigil]

Unranked Tournament needs to be brought back or the challenge for stage 3 of the Challenger Circuit needs to be changed to be on the level of other challenges in the circuit. I get that its supposed to be a “challenge” but compared to the others its just way too difficult

[astral sphinx]

Please fix ranked. Doesn't matter if i have full team or just me i never get to load in, it makes me wait 20 minutes before i eventually give up and just play the other game modes. Please also add trading to the game. i think it would get alot more people to join the finals too.

[wise pine]

agreed, oce ranked takes ages to load into.

[rough orbit]

Without being ranked yet, I've had silvers in my lobby. How am I supposed to win multiple games in a row against silvers?

[high wing]

another game, another cheater

[waxen granite]

Nerf fcar

[versed cloud]

Let us see our ranked progression please. I feel like I am stuck in neutral with no information

[violet vigil]

Fix melee hit registration. Remove melee auto lock. Speed up daggers right click, or fix daggers backstab hitbox

[west trellis]

Getting disconnected as a game starts, and then unable to rejoin, and then penalized for "quitting". Ooof

[hardy bridge]

give us a potato cannon cl 40 skin

[modest shuttle]

That completely pointless 30 seconds at the end of a cashout game when the vaults aren't even spawned to claim them, and you can't open them or get them to the cashout points.

[knotty lagoon]

Really want to be able to shoot my gun in the practice range with another player; not even necessarily while queuing for the game but setting up a private lobby is much more intimidating

[boreal lotus]

THIS +++++

[limber umbra]

I think they game really desperately needs a prestige system or something similar to cod level 50 is not even close to high enough... competitive players have nothing to grind for once they reach level 50 and hit diamond...

I'm already diamond for season 2 and have been level 50 for months I think some sort of level system with cool level icons that would be displayed in game might make players more inclined to play.

It took me barely any time at all to reach diamond this season and now I'm not playing I don't see a reason for it I can't earn anything more nor can I level up at all.

Just a thought 🤷‍♂️ copy and repost to get the devs to save this game @bitter nexus

[warm trail]

I think they desperately need to FIX THE MATCHMAKING

[undone gazelle]

your defib should be on full cooldown when you get revived, stops a team of 3 mediums from reviving instantly when you thought you killed someone

having to get 5 - 6 kills for a team wipe is not enjoyable

[quartz sleet]

The stun gun should send an electrical shock to your pc or console causing it to explode

[crisp oxide]

make the rocket launcher great again

[calm edge]

YES!

[mystic smelt]

Add a moonwalk emote?!

[lofty laurel]

I completed my rookie challenges but didn’t receive the multi bucks from it pls help someone

[half moat]

I swear, when the season first dropped, defibs were in a perfect state cuz you could camp people who were being revived and put them to sleep again the instant they reappeared. But now they have just enough time to get around a corner or get a defib off. I think they should keep the invulnerability but shorten it so it's somewhere in the middle of where it is now, so clutch escapes are still possible, but it isn't annoying to keep them down.

[hasty trout]

Looks like my PC got this beta first😎

[high wing]

another game, another cheater...

[astral dune]

I really enjoy that you can play 5v5 in power shift, but the game mode just isnt any fun :(

[dawn sand]

what if players had a primary and a secondary weapon?

[sudden spire]

This game is getting really laggy

[mystic briar]

Healing beam sometimes refuse to work. It can happen as frequent as 1 in 5 games

[modest shuttle]

Once again - please remove the stun gun - terrible concept

[keen lynx]

game feed

[terse saffron]

Once again asking very politely to please change the "win one tournament game" to literally anything else, especially after the removal of casual tourney.

I have yet to be allowed into a game, let alone given a chance to win.

[tropic swift]

Idea:
Rework the stun gun so that you can only stun someone when you're holding it.

[slim acorn]

I think that changing the ranked names to be a bit better would help, only having 4 ranks with 4 sections is a little strange, diamond is never a top rank

my proposed system:

Bronze
Silver
Platinum
Diamond
Finalist
Champion (Top 500 of only)

Thoughts?

[rough herald]

In apex we have ded slide but in the finals we have ded bhop, pls fix. Slow badddd. Fast goodddd

[jaunty pawn]

Can you improve the throwing arc visibility

[jade musk]

Please make the heavy grenade launcher explode on player impact🙏 🙏 🙏 😖 . People would love it if it functioned like the tf2 demoman pipe launcher

[sudden spire]

I guess my feedback boils down to: i think im going to take a break from this game until the servers and other bugs are fixed. It feels too much like im fighting with the game to control my character

[muted spear]

?????????????????????????????????????????????

[rose bluff]

brother, that's literally how it works

@earnest quiver So you want a 150 hp light to continue holding the stun gun to continue stunning them while the enemy can shoot you back? You would literally insta die if they made it that way.

@earnest quiver I don't even play light. I play medium in ranked and have worked my way to diamond. I agree cloak is the OP part of light, but most lights I play against that stun me I still kill with hip fire. It's pretty rare you come across a light good enough to actually contribute anything beneficial to the fight. Most of the people that complain about light play pubs, which is apparently what the devs are listening to because they keep nerfing light into an unplayable state in ranked. There's a reason all the best teams run HHM and HMM because it's just more consistent. If you played back in the beta the light guns were actually a glass cannon and had the fastest TTK but the devs keep nerfing their weapons.

[earnest quiver]

then why can you swap to your weapon while they are still stunned? not sure you understand what they are saying

@rose bluff use it for a reason not just to get a kill, all you lights do it bitch about how easy it is to die and use your stun gun and cloak. if you think you need it as a light player then youre a bad light player. the whole point of the light class is to be a glass canon, or someone who helps their teammates in way other than getting a single kill with their cheesey ass stun gun

[mystic briar]

Healing beam sometimes refuse to work. It can happen as frequent as 1 in 5 games

[slim acorn]

Thoughts?

[woven hawk]

At least you can react to getting stunned. Mystery mines and ghost grenades? Hello and goodbye in the same word

[dry parrot]

https://medal.tv/games/the-finals/clips/24zMYejQnAFkWy/d1337FPiNaT4?invite=cr-MSxOcXosMjAxNzY5NjMs

a cheater in ranked, you could clearly see him snapping and throughout the tourny he had stupid amount of kills, not my first cheater ive gone against but i would like to know they have gotten banned

[broken musk]

Why does the game sometimes make my hammer swing move some type of way? Is it some kind of aim assist? I don't even use a controller. I need an option to turn this off

[autumn portal]

deal with the damn cheater situation, i cant play a normal match without someone using esp or something, also add the normal tournaments back for the love of god

[placid valley]

r.i.p.

[latent pecan]

i want to listen to the old winning soundtrack in game because its always put me on the edge whenever the match is about to finished

[brisk dagger]

Add the option of attaching sights to any gun. I chose fcar purely for the holo sight, frankly too bad to use the iron sights at range.

[swift laurel]

probably unpopular opinion but akm could use a little more damage and have its range nerfed a little more

[thick sorrel]

Thats really cool, but than should both not be able to shoot!

[earnest quiver]

the stun gun makes the target only able to shoot, it really needs a rework cause it does too much as is right now

[potent charm]

has anyone had issues with using any of the ammo audit inspects for your guns? For some reason mine keep switching back to the default inspect animations

[warped wraith]

in ranked why do i get ppl that dont know what there doing on my team and then on the enemy teams they are all actually really good it makes no sense bro

[clear crystal]

Stun gun just needs to be a glitch gun

[pliant tartan]

There are too many hackers in ranked matches. Players who clearly have too high a hit or headshot rate should be kicked upon report.

[keen lynx]

crazy

[proud eagle]

wow i came back after 4 years and there are so many hackers still.

[foggy thunder]

We need an option to select which maps we only want to play before queuing so we don't have to play the terrible new map (or any future renditions of it).

[cobalt crescent]

make color variants for battlepass skins and text message feature in game (because players dont use comms in game)

[low relic]

Hi I'm loving the game, but the only thing that really bugs me is the weapon exp, one of the big things I want to do is max out the levels of all my weapons and gadgets. I was thinking that you could have like challenges for each level like for gas grenades it could be like
Kill X amount of enemies
Deal X amount of damage
Destroy X amount of structures

[placid valley]

we definitely need a more detailed map next time. the new map is horrible. horrible colors, horrible open area routes, horrible constructs, horrible stairs

[lavish totem]

Wtaf is skill based matchmaking bruh. I’m gold 3 and I just got qued into an all diamond and play lobby

[hasty citrus]

Ranked is basically cheater vs cheaters who are in need of an ego boost to be a top 500 player. So many cheaters this season and you are forced to play medium heavy to tank the aimbotters

[safe mirage]

Would sword have cosmetic as light saber ?

[wary hedge]

That's a good idea, all the hackers could be easily banned in champions rank

[visual pecan]

so I've been playing a good amount this season and I legit want to say that i live the season so far everything feels at least decent the balance patch at the start of the season was fantastic and the new weapons and equipment feel great after the hotfix with that all said I have a few notes and i want to see everyone's opinions on it.

1. I've been having hit registration issues on every weapon and will be working on video proof in a compilation within this week i already have two clips today that I think are irrefutable
2. turret is absolutely insane it takes not even a second to lock on and with it's rof it hits for like 30 in another second ive had fights where its more important to kill the turret over the medium
3. both light smgs (m11 and xp-95) have absurd ttks it says I'm a heavy main in here but I've put a bunch of time on this game as medium as well and both it feels like i can get killed in the time it takes for me to reload any other gun
4. the fcar is getting ridiculous my duo that i play with most of the time is a light main and we both agree that fcar hits so hard and so fast tht you can out play/hit anything (*even the light smgs in the previous point)
5. the lh1 is kind of hard to combat but i dont think its as bad or unbalanced as the other ones in this list it does 49 a shot with 4 shots a second doing 196 in a second wich is enough to kill anything in the game in 2 and a half.
6. Heal beam is still really strong still even if you can only heal 350 HP it still has the ability to out heals almost anything in the game i think an alternative of something similar to anna from over watch as a dart based burst heal with a limited mag
   6.demat should do a full layer ive used full ability stacks to not even go through the wall which makes it feel garbage, it should go all the way through
7. I dont think that disabling the reserve in ranked is great I think that the reserve is a good part of the tactics in the game
   Dm me for more info or clarifacation

[low relic]

I was playing today and i realized that the medium class is the only class without immediate mobility, light has grappling hook & dash, heavy has charge & slam. If you yall add a 4 specialist for each role i think the medium could use a movement one.

Specialist ideas
Light- mini emp (glitch effect not stun) around the light, like same size as the vanishing bomb

Gadget idea
Heavy- stim, restores half of entire health over 5 seconds

Cosmetic ideas
R2D2 turret skin
Box cutter dagger
Baseball launcher turret skin
Firecracker APS turret skin (4th of july)
Wedding arch zipline skin

[buoyant ore]

It's hard for newbies to survive on Asian servers. When they start playing, they come across bots that repeat only certain actions. All of these bots are accounts created to use cheat in ranked. These bots cause newbies to lose interest in the game and leave. Please catch the bots.🚨

[odd tundra]

For April fools can we just have like a gamemode not have guns and just gadgets

[placid valley]

Not even only aim bots, the hackers are more awful

[grim oasis]

ranked is horrible on asia

[lunar iron]

Ya, after a season and a half I think im finally quitting this game. The combination of ranked matchmaking plus the really painful solo queue is making this game less fun by the day

[velvet umbra]

has the crash to being temp banned been addressed. like my friends game crashes and he trys to rejoin but is banned for 5 min

[small socket]

** you should be able to load into practice mode while loading into a match

[jolly depot]

WHY does the aps work through walls thats so dumb, wtf it doing shooting through the wall???

[late peak]

EMBARK seems to ignore this matter completely as long as THE FINALS still haves players...
Guess when the Playerbase drops to a dangerous low amount they will finally start when its too late.

[slim sun]

I think the game should be rethink with more collaboration it’s the key

[pine flower]

New Ranked Feature to combat afks: Press any key to confirm matchmaking. An easy way to avoid the successive games of people jacking off while matchmaking and never showing up for the match. If they don’t keystroke into the match before it finds a replacement player they go to the back of the queue

[hasty citrus]

Easy anti cheat, more like easy cheating

[swift skiff]

thats kinda normal tbh xd goo is always kind of random if you throw it weird

[stray rampart]

Yeah this is really annoying lol. A fix would be appreciated embark

[low hollow]

Ranked Queue times will be the downfall of this game.. I just waited 40 MINUTES in queue and still didn’t find a game

[heady merlin]

what time zone are you in?

[fast needle]

New game mode idea:

The Bounty.
4 teams of 3
A bounty between 10K to 20k is placed on a random player every 3 mins. If the player stays alive for 3 min their team gets the bounty. If they get killed the assassin team gets the bounty unless the player is revived where the bounty would be reversed (coining would give the bounty to the assasin so no coining)

[slim sun]

New game mode idea : battle royale with blue zone

[wheat gull]

Please fix this cheater problem. Fix the Anti Cheat, so many cheaters now. Literally playing a cheater 8/10 times.

[sage prism]

how the fuck is this fair matchmaking bro? (teammates are fine but like what's the fucking point of a rank system when I'm getting silvers?)

[sharp willow]

you havent even seen the worst of it yet

[placid valley]

lol, I got two bronze teammates vs all golds a few days ago

[junior ginkgo]

Could you add a "sorry" quick chat perchance?

[fallen mirage]

Yeah, I think an apology quick chat would be a good idea 👍🏻

[teal minnow]

Day 2 of asking for a Death Match mode where the first player with 40 kills is the winner. Each round randomized weapons ,gadgets ,specialization and constestant (L ,M OR H)

[rough vessel]

you mean light cloak simulator

[nocturne vector]

Body stuck on defeb.
Gateway not working .
Stuck in corners/wall edges .
Damage charts incorrect .
Goo throwables are like RNG either works as intended or do something crazy like destroying a wall / spawning through a wall or making you stuck .

Cloacked device is still existing after everyone asked for it to be removed.
Fcar and Lewis'G are like forbidden to nerf apparently .
93R is a joke and I can't even call it half useful .

" 8,175 " players quit in the last 30 days
Around 10k 📉 players playing right now (game used to peak 250k 📈 )
Que times are super long due to low player base and that explains how you can get low elo team in high elo games .

And devs yet again keep proving their point of us wasting our time complaining about stuff they are too lazy to to fix and rather watch their game gets like 1 k players overall probably that would motivate them to do their work Kappa
Also the irony is that they let some decent players tested season 2 update before launch yet they still not asking their opinion on any aspect in this game and many of them Quit .

[fast cave]

Can we get like 3 more levels on weapons and gadgets right away? :)

[slim sun]

I wish the ranked system was working better

[merry totem]

It could just be me, but if not, it seems a bit of a shame I can't throw certain arena carriables when by all outward appearances I have the clearance over an obstacle or the room to shoot a canister or something through the window. I get that part of the problem is that it would become some complicated case by case thing, though. Barrels seems like they could easily be lobbed over obstacles, and yet barrels are one of the carriables that probably shouldn't be easily chucked through a window frame. Anyway, I imagine making all the physics work as well as they already do is hard enough, but maybe someday.

[wind flame]

Getting a notification that one of your reports lead to a ban would make quite the difference in perceived justice. Otherwise it feels like blatant cheaters dont get what they deserve.

[rough drum]

I know the iron sights are used to balance the guns and make them unique…but please add the option to add sights. It’s just not fun to use the iron sights all the time.. also fcar and xp are the best weapons because they have sights plus the most dps…why is it balanced like that?

[glad lance]

Inspecting outfits, single pieces of character cosmetics, weapons, charms and stickers should allow you to always zoom in, zoom out and rotate 360°!
Currently if you inspect gloves for example, you cannot zoom more to actually inspect them, so all "inspecting" does is remove the UI. It's very annoying.

[river current]

rebuff sa1216（diffusion and range)

[crystal umbra]

Hello, is this also where we drop ideas? Or strictly feedback?

[rocky atlas]

It would be really nice to have an option in the accessibility tab to move the ammo count to somewhere close to the middle of the screen, rather than way off to the side.

[plucky badger]

Day 9 advocating for the ability to hold right click on dagger and throwing knives

[quick coyote]

still a lot of cheaters pls ban for cheater

[quartz nexus]

when bunny bash gets removed quick cash should leave with it, 6 queues is crazy with the current playerbase and cashout is actually realistic practice for ranked whereas quickcash is just training people to 3rd party

[astral seal]

CHEATING IS RUINING THIS GAME NO OTHER GAME HAS SO MANY CHEATERS

[wise pine]

i havent come accross an obvious cheater yet tbh

[lyric parrot]

There is so many cheaters. I think diamond-plat is where the golden cheater area lies.

[inner jasper]

how do people feel about the ks23? Been a while since I've played but my god does it feel underwhelming. 3 headshots to kill a medium

[dull hemlock]

Shotguns can't headshot.

[eternal kayak]

We need a way to save multiple outfits.

[stray thunder]

I now it's April 1 but daily contracts 1000 XP for destroy part of a building and 500 XP for first win of the day.

[clear crystal]

Absolute trash it should shoot through walls or something to make it viable

[slim sun]

I wish the game would be more focused around teamwork

[raven wave]

Last days its horrible, i met today one same cheater in different games....
(its taking really long time to ban them even if they dont hide it and just spin around and killing whole lobby)

[foggy fable]

Too many cheaters. Getting killed within .0001 sec and also through back. They just come to our location and kill all of us quickly. No fun.

[lyric parrot]

Yea it is super frustrating. I played 3 games today and on each game we met a blatantly cheater. Last game was in the last round 17 kills. I hope they invest in some proper anticheat.

[oblique olive]

please improve anticheat and buff throwing knives and dagger

[sturdy pawn]

Game quality has gone down so much during Easter when people with no clue are playing. Create lobbies with people with equal skill/playtime to create better matches.

[bold turtle]

add performance mode

[lunar creek]

Game is infested with cheaters. It is getting so ridiculous now that almost EVERY team (and even mine when pairing with randoms) has a cheater or two. Yesterday, I played a final round wherein both the teams had 2 cheaters each (the enemy had 2 heavy cheaters with a medium healer, and my team had 2 heavy cheaters while I was the medium with healing beam. I have no idea whether the other medium was in league with the cheaters or an unfortunate soul like me stuck matched with random cheaters and trying to make the best of the situation like me).

[tranquil sinew]

I have not met a cheater yet

[mystic briar]

The new anticheat that was added idk ngs or smthn is totally getting obliterated by the exceptionally gifted players on asia servers 👍

[broken musk]

REGION LOCK CHINA cheaters

[dull hemlock]

What in the auto translate am I reading

[jaunty pawn]

lmao, i read it three times and im still confused

[odd ibex]

💥Why can’t the devs make a decent nerf?!
The meta is m11 and Lewis gun they were supposed to reduce damage of Lewis gun and increase the recoil of m11 but every match I don’t see any other weapons.
Nerf m11 hipfire and recoil

Why nerf other weapons and still have these have a fast time to kill on m11 and Lewis like who the hell is using the heavy ks shotgun,it’s an inferior revolver!
Just increases ks damage and bullet drop.
I swear the people who balance the game r dumb nerf one gun to uselessness and make one op.
The medium grenade launcher is spammy and annoying too especially to lights as u can shoot near the leg for 2 hit kill no skill but u have to actually aim with a shotgun for a 2 hit kill.
Why?!!

[keen lily]

Russia and China should be region locked

[languid sonnet]

Why can I still get penalized if I leave a game after a team mate has already left? Currently stuck in a round with a much lower ranked player in my team (matchmaking sucks) and now I have to sit through it

[raven wave]

I played around 6-8h today and can for sure tell i met 5 of them (No cosmetic, killing whole lobby with lewis only hs)
2 of them i met more times and on top of it, i met 2 in same game in different teams.

Prefered region got automatic (i am from EU) (going try EU only now)
Rank Plat 2
if something kill this game it will be probably this cheaters

[half moat]

Lol a good light isn't walking up into a mediums face if they have a grenade launcher

[delicate bluff]

Whats happening with ranked matchmaking atm? Gold 1 matched with diamonds literally every game xD

[obsidian solar]

BUFF THE RIOT SHIELD:
Here's some suggestions, I know all of these together would make the shield pretty strong but even 1 or 2 would be enough to improve it so much!:

• While blocking movement speed should be the same as walking (increasing block movement speed would help a lot in pushing and giving your teammates support)
• Increase swing speed (Honestly a lot issues would be solve with this, the weapon lacks a good ttk)
• Lunge distance (90% of the fight become a chase you can't win, the other classes have ways to block enemies, slow them down or catch up to them, even heavies have RPG to finish people off if they use sledge)
• Increase damage from 84 to 90 (to kill heavies in 4 hits instead of 5)
• Electrify the baton and give it a glitch effect, when you hit somebody they're glitched for 2,5 sec (This would give the shield so much utility and would help the team greatly, making it a viable options)
• Remove the fov zoom when you hold your shield up (it's very annoying that when you block the screen zooms in, either remove it or add the option to choose between affected or indipendent fov while aiming)

ALLOW MELEE WEAPONS TO KEEP SPRITING WHEN ATTACKING:

• This would help them to compete

IMPROVE MELEE TRACKING:

• Some weapons like the Dagger have an insane lock that is not needed, on the other hand the Riot Shield has a very weak lock, you can't even hit people in your face sometimes. Consider increasing the angle at which the lock works and reduce the lock strenght on the Dagger

FIX THE DAGGER BACKSTAB:

• Backstabs with the Dagger are the most incosistent thing I've ever seen, a lot times either nothing happens or it's not backstab even though you're right behind them and other times it is when you're literally in front of them
• Increase the backstab hitboxes because the latency of the servers causes this problems
• Make it so you can hold the backstab and it's not a forced animation, revert it like it was in the Open Beta

[hollow cave]

Am i the only one that feels like medium is way too OP? Like triple mediums in almost every team…

[prime ore]

Most of the cheater are unranked/gold. They’re carrying 1/2 very bad players, maybe boosting service

[lyric parrot]

Yea. You still meet them more in the higher ranks because of sbmm. Typically it is the classic gold/unranked chinese named cheater

[sturdy pawn]

This 👆 100% Agree!

Nice Servers down, let's all get LEAVE PENALTY 🥳 It's our fault 🙂

[covert dock]

Servers in EU are down?

[pseudo leaf]

i have seen plat aim bots and 2 diamonds play with a unranked cheater yesterday

[humble temple]

this game needs to incease player counts asap, otherwise there will be higher chance of getting matched with cheaters and extremely long match making. I fear this creats a vicious cycle where more peaple move away.

[willow siren]

seems like it

[tall herald]

someone knows what the code TFMR0002 stands for?

[shadow rune]

Since Day 1 the dear devs couldn't fix the tournaments...this is a disaster, stop throwing out stupid skins and all and fix the tournaments finally!!!!

[upbeat urchin]

Yep i cannot find a game because of this code

[sterile viper]

buff pyro grenade

[wooden plover]

Give back the sonar grenade to medium, light has no use for it

[distant trout]

Nice servers takes 10 minutes for a game and the server crashes in a Ranked match, lets hope i haven't lost my points as already happened... Thanks developers

[umbral summit]

looks like we have some looby crasher bots on the sever.

[silver forge]

I’m sorry but what video game are you playing? I never see M11 and most heavies use the SA12. I almost never see any medium use the GL outside of quick play

[lunar creek]

The Face of Mr. Rizzler

[odd ibex]

I play quick play for fun and don’t touch competitive so yeah different game pretty much lol.
I hate waiting for teammates for revies in tournaments.
I know for a fact most lights use xp in tournament and heavy sa12 plus medium can’t afford to hopp around and use gl and have to play well.

[tranquil sinew]

if I was a dev I would honestly do a community season every couple seasons to see how good their ideas are or to show them how wrong they are.

[foggy pagoda]

Please add the 120hz option to the console and enable crossplay between console x PC. Can't find a ranked match on the SA server due to lack of players, with these additions the game will be much better

[torn shale]

Hello there! I'm with the only wish on here. I'd love for you to add special sound effects to throwing cards skin. Being a big fan of the weapon, I'd be grateful (I bet like other fans) to hear it in game. Thank you for the possibility of leaving feedback and wishes!

[static canopy]

There is crossplay

[faint wharf]

make a 5v5 tower defense mode

[obsidian solar]

Give smoke grenade to all classes! It would open so many possibilities! I would use smoke so much if it was on medium, on the other hand i've barely seen any Light using smoke, especially when they have better gadgets to choose from

[vernal tinsel]

April fools event would be fun

[umbral summit]

are the developer aware of this? i had a crashes 3 times in a row. A palyername was shown why it was crashed. if i assume right you can crash looby simply by disconnect some bots after a round builds up

[hasty citrus]

The april fool joke would be the devs saying they finally fixed the anti cheat

[odd ibex]

New weapon idea💥(fanning revolver)
Get a medium range projectile based slug double action revolver for light that is action but close range (hipfire only)u can do a 3 tap trick for it to do a 3 round burst it look really cool u can see it in YouTube https://youtube.com/shorts/Cm3Hi4rw-rk?si=jJrYVQs28mfSnGWE

Medium has high health and op revolver hitscan with high recoil but fanning revolver for light has lower range and recoil and low accuracy hipfire so it’s for beginners who can’t handle medium revolver,it’s also projectile based like ks shotgun so u have to u have to account for projectile speed and bullet drop,it’s fair and skill based.
I was wondering to give it to lights so they have to be accurate with their shots for once and not spray and pray with high accuracy with most pistols and smgs.
medium class has boring weapons so it would be nice,it depends on the devs I don’t care what class gets it,I want it one way or the other.

[stoic lion]

Game needs to fix voice chat, plain and simple, been an issue WAY to long.

[sturdy pawn]

People play with open mic and the only thing you can hear are keyboard clicks 😅 You want to mute them, but you also want to win, so you just listen to that mess and your ears are bleeding

[craggy jackal]

fix anticheat!

[remote holly]

Asia servers have cheat program users every round. Please catch cheat program users. I've never seen anyone in a van in real time even if I report it and I don't get a notification

[oblique olive]

skill issue

[fervent yew]

pls add back ranked tracking, not having overview over winning or loosing points is the most annoying feature ever + it was already ingame but got removed why????

[brisk juniper]

Please let me never lose and win every gun fight (just me)

[umbral summit]

please fix the quick eq menue in game. that is so anoying. if i want to change only one thing eg.- a weapon in powershift, my whole setup gets switched arround instead (spedification, gadgets and so on) . that kills me almost any round.

[odd ibex]

💥Why can’t the devs make a decent nerf?!
The meta in quick cash is m11 and Lewis gun they were supposed to reduce damage of Lewis gun and increase the recoil of m11 but every match I don’t see any other weapons.
Nerf m11 hipfire and recoil

Why nerf other weapons and still have these have a fast time to kill on m11 and Lewis like who the hell is using the heavy ks shotgun,it’s an inferior revolver!
Just increases ks damage and bullet drop.
I swear the people who balance the game r dumb nerf one gun to uselessness and make one op.
The medium grenade launcher is spammy and annoying too especially to lights as u can shoot near the leg for 2 hit kill no skill but u have to actually aim with a shotgun for a 2 hit kill.
Why?!!

[native robin]

the finals is one of those games which you keep getting mad over but always returning because theres nothing else to play anymore

[rough vessel]

m11 does not need a nerf lol not until light is good, if you actually use the weapon you'll realise the recoil is terrible and the weapon is unusable outside of 10m range

[dark willow]

Add kbm supprt on console, so the finals will get 5 more concurrent players and it will solve the game being dead problem

[uneven prism]

same bro i am also leaving if this keeps up i have tried enough explaining to myself to be in all this

[deep topaz]

asia servers still unplayable

[silk cloud]

https://tenor.com/view/austin-powers-shoes-throws-a-shoe-honestly-who-does-that-gif-5557422

There should be a "pair of shoes" skin for throwing knives

[tropic blaze]

Be more new player friendly, i don´t want that game die in the forgotten limbo and, fix the anti-cheat

[stray rampart]

Having issues with freezing and crashing mid game. Some optimizations would be really helpful 💚

[violet elbow]

I disagree on the range/recoil but M11 also doesnt need a nerf

[smoky gust]

not a bad idea honestly
but we would need to remove the ability to shoot while stunned

the light cant cheese 1v1's anymore
in a team-fight the light can stun the most valuable target, turning it into an effective 2v2
and it still retains its ability to deny cashouts, since the light can just stun and swap back to their gun

[sturdy pawn]

lol, that's zero recoil. Then throw a stun gun shot before and people can't move, look around, aim down sight, or use any abilities. Fun times for others 😅

[keen quail]

Do you get anything from scanning Qr code on The finals

[sly laurel]

Suggestion - I think they should hide player ranks because I keep getting gang rizzed dog the bounty hunter'ed when I play with my triple stack who are all high plats, whenever there are golds in the game the triple diamond teams always grief us so hard as they can see we are the second strongest team... just hide enemy ranks until after the match or something... e.g We are in second place comfortably and instead of the triple diamonds in first place who are on an equal 30ishk with us, they will instead make it their goal to double up the last 22k to eliminate the triple plat team. This sort of griefing to allow worse-performing teams doesn't seem fun. This isn't an issue of getting slapped by better players... these people literally will not shoot the enemy team of golds knowing they will get an easier next game essentially teaming with them. Please Please Please remove the ability to see enemy ranks untill the game is completed!!!!

[rugged temple]

Melee weapons should be able to hit multiple people

[covert ermine]

loose multible ranked gamed in a row, get higher rank and placed against better people. very cool

[supple abyss]

Bring back S1 music.

[native robin]

idk what feedback to put here anymore so uhhh just fix the game or something it sucks

[rotund echo]

If you start a ranked game and both your teammates quit before you even spawn, play 5 minutes and then quit but still get a 10 minute ban something isn't right.

[sterile viper]

buff pyro grenade

[daring siren]

please do

[icy cypress]

heavy movement

[odd ibex]

The cloak makes it op,all the other weapons r balanced accept m11 cause hipfire is too easy.

💥Why can’t the devs make a decent nerf?!
The meta in quick cash is m11 and Lewis gun,fscar they were supposed to reduce damage of Lewis gun and increase the recoil of m11 but every match I don’t see any other weapons.
Nerf m11 hipfire and recoil

Why nerf other weapons and still have these have a fast time to kill on m11 and Lewis like who the hell is using the heavy ks shotgun,it’s an inferior revolver!
Just increases ks damage and bullet drop.
I swear the people who balance the game r dumb nerf one gun to uselessness and make one op.
The medium grenade launcher is spammy and annoying too especially to lights as u can shoot near the leg for 2 hit kill no skill but u have to actually aim with a shotgun for a 2 hit kill.
Why?!!

[umbral summit]

nerv aps and shilds in powershift... can not be that this is the only thing palyer plays

[echo viper]

The m11 is fine, also you’re asking to nerf weapons and not mentioning the fcar for whatever reason

[foggy pagoda]

Crossplay between console and PC only works if there is a PC player on the team, although it is a disadvantage to play against PC as the console is locked to 60Hz.

[fossil epoch]

Add keyboard and mouse compatibility in console

[brisk juniper]

Remove console players

[proud eagle]

there are 50 hackers in every game.

[violet elbow]

Barely anyone gets that M11 recoil down consistently, I mostly just posted that clip to prove that the Light SMGs are just locked in range by your aim and recoil control, making them by far the most skill expressive guns in the game

[pale crane]

light is really too weak, he dies too fast in face to face with other classes

[nocturne sand]

Light is supposed to be a glass-cannon. High damage but low health. Don’t think it needs any nerfs and is without a doubt the weakest class especially in light of the glitch grenade nerf. Medium and heavy are both significantly better in terms of team and objective play

[upper granite]

im dropping 2 ranks on the leaderboard after finishing as 3. in round 2 as a plat 1. is that intended??

[magic pine]

let us see our fame points man

[molten hinge]

Can you please add SOME sort of indicator back about fame going up and down? Kinda feels way worse than the old system sometimes, just being completely in the dark.

[sly laurel]

I had this issue first week and was told pathetic answers like 'other players gained around you' or that 'its skill based'.. I have a theory that you have a hidden MMR because I played 24 hours straight first day of ssn 2 and was about top 1k but had rough games as I was mainly solo Q'ing. My friend who only plays 3-4 hours a day and only ques with me ended up overtaking me because he played less games but performed consistently better as he was q'ing with me and not taking losses. e.g. We would both win a tournament and he would gain 300ish places and I would gain 30

[umbral summit]

Light absolutely needs a nerf. Glass cannon my foot. There is nothing outsight from a sniper that can oneshoot a light, Light has the most usefull gadgets, the most movement abilities, and also the strongest DPS. If something gets tough, a Light player comes out on top in any situation with ease. Especially when they can just pocket heal by a middle. In my opinion if nothing else will change light should only have 100 Hp. Than we can speak from a glass cannon.

[fast rover]

tell me you are unskilled, without telling me unskilled

[trail halo]

Snipers need a bit of a nerf for headshots. Power shift is unplayable because everyone just camps roofs and cloak snipes you in the head, and when you do manage to grab the platform it's not even gonna last you. Also the dome shield needs a bit of a buff, the fact that I can't beam a mesh shield without using a few clips, but I can beam a dome shield with like half a clip if that it's pretty useless. Same with stuns, as a light that shit needs to be gone it hurts the game more than it is fun to use.

[sterile viper]

give pyro grenades a longer burn effect

[glad ore]

Or two charges like frags. Also make them explode when they hit shields like glitch grenates.

[marble lintel]

ban everyone who plays heavy

[night rover]

can we please get a means to rejoin a ranked game we may have dced from or had to leave at firsts, i've had it numerous times at this point the game gets stuck on loading screen to a next round and i'm forced to quit the game but can't rejoin

[shut sedge]

Hackers should get banned in a shorter time

[tawdry owl]

If you melee when aiming a throwable the trajectory stays without holding the button

[unreal fossil]

Have you played Light yourself? Apparently not, or not enough.

It still needs some tweaking for sure. But besides being annoying, Lights rarely have much of an impact, in casual games at least.

[pale crane]

ah nope, light need a buff HP, or more ammo i think, in 1vs1 he need more skill to kill someone

[smoky gust]

there are more than enough reasons for disliking it that have nothing to do with skill

the increase in que times being one of them

[glacial condor]

Still love the game but it feels way more unbalanced than before it needs some serious reworking of some weapons the xp5 and akm are ridiculous and other weapons like the 1887 hit shots and do no damage meaning it takes 4 hits to kill the whole game feels as though a lot of weapons are a huge amount stronger than others

[quick coyote]

what do you mean? elaborate a bit more

[upper granite]

biggest L take I have ever seen. A light dies to 6/25 shots from a FCAR fex, thats bizzarly fast. heavy, the class with the best hp in the game also has the highest dps close range. they get shields and barricades for defense. M has beam and defib which both is insane

[dusky night]

too many cheaters

[pseudo leaf]

after getting 3 different cheaters back to back each round in a single tournament i am calling a day 🙂 (if you guys are gonna do a ban wave do it fast it is really not fun to get cheaters and try to go different cash outs and your team just don't know where they are because they though making every color red is a good idea or they are just brain dead)

[lunar creek]

Too many cheaters, do something about this. If all fails, the tough call to region lock certain players is worth considering.

[haughty patio]

I disagree with most of the riot shield "improvements" you have suggested.

As a riot shield player I almost NEVER use right click. Simply look to the right as you are charging an enemy and the riot shield will block bullets.
We don't need a "lunge" ability, use a goo grenade to stop the enemy from running
Also for more damage simply combine the baton with quick melee by pressing V right after you attack.

Now I will say that they did nerf the riot shield this past update by removing the ability to disarm mines, which was very useful and an unfortunate loss..
Devs please add an option to disable aim assist on the riot shield, its very annoying.

[obsidian python]

I just joined a match and I don't know why but it won't let me place the gun or the trophy system and it also won't let me throw any grenades, it does the throwing animation but it never leaves my inventory and it never hits the ground. It also won't let me shoot, but it will let me zoom in or ADS.

[somber patrol]

-All season 2 weapons need a buff
-Please allow us to combine some more face and headgear, game have too many clipping skins anyway
-Just move new casual cashout gamemode to tournaments so we can do weeklies like that new one more easier

[solar garnet]

make grenades through quicker

[sterile viper]

give all the classes smoke grenades

[fluid anchor]

not level 5 skin???

[umbral summit]

I play "all classes", to be exact. If you ask what I prefer, I would say Light first, and then Middle. If I'm frustrated after a round, I just switch to Light because playing light is ease. @Future I'm not the child with the 'L' symbol next to the name who cries immediately if someone touches his main badly. If you dies to often with Light that your fault to be exact. I just made my comparison WITHOUT onetrick a class. 😉

[supple abyss]

Fix matchmaking spread.

[spark stag]

can we get a random favorite skin selection for weapons?

[dense ocean]

pls add again ranked progression bar

[terse lark]

☝️

[upper citrus]

lol what? light is the worst class in the game by a mile. there’s a reason you will never see a light in ranked past gold. light is arguably the only class in the game that is in a balanced state. medium and heavy need to be nerfed down to that level.

[whole ocean]

Please add the option to save our outfits as presets/favorites.

[fast rover]

i hope the devs dont look at all these horrible L takes for L class 🤣 L easiest and most effective (unskilled wise) class in the whole game

[glad ore]

The "L is op/best" takes come from unranked play where at least half of the participants are still learning the game or are screwing around with weird stuff and/or chasing contracts. People are unironically asking for OHKs on a class that already dies to two hits against most burst weapons, or 20% of the ammo pool of the ARs with bodyshots. These aren't comments coming from a place of skill or understanding.

[unreal fossil]

Lights usually fail to make their team win games. Yes they get kills, but 15 cloak+stun kills don't make you win in an objective-based game. They're annoying at best. May tilt the game in favour of one of the other teams. But usually not theirs.

[drowsy field]

if ur losing to lights they're just better than you it's a bad class that has many counters from other classes especially heavy and light doesn't benefit the team much without a team that knows how to play around them and communicates

[rain gust]

Glitch grenades have become a butchered gadget for the already weak Light class.

5 seconds is plenty of time for an affected team to recover. For one team to take advantage of the 5 seconds where the opponent is glitched, they have to be very well-coordinated, which you don't see at all in casual or solo queue. If you're going to nerf something overpowered such as 10 seconds of being glitched by a grenade or mine, don't obliterate it by cutting the time in half.

7.5 seconds should be just right.

[summer bison]

Fix hackers, its time

Not playing till its done

[umbral summit]

@fast rover is it not funny that the only argument this lighs has is "if you losing .. skill issue* Has the same energy like : Hey you losing aigains hacker in the game ? skilL iSsuE. You died bc of cancer? sKiLl iSsuE. Such a weak argument

[twin storm]

spawn killing has been a huge problem lately, 3-4 people playing light, cloaking and just spawn trapping pretty annoying tbh

[marble lintel]

get a fucking anticheat

[quick coyote]

93r - increase mv, reduce aerial bullet dispersion, reduce horizontal recoil and increase cam recoil by a bit

[dense shadow]

Please remove the invisibility for small , it's so disgusting to play against it

[fast rover]

bad sound, no footsteps? skill issue
no reason to have a discussion with them.

[daring siren]

You created a straw man. A hacker is artificially winning, and I don't even need to address the other one.

If you are losing to light because you are bad, yes. There is no changing that. A pocket healed light is the same as a pocket healed heavy or medium, you are not killing them by yourself. That's the point of the heal gun. To make one person fight with more health. Target the medium or make the light retreat through high burst damage. You literally have so many options for doing this that aren't on light. RPG is the most easy to clean up on.

Stay with your team, a light is only powerful against people who are isolated and don't know they're there. This is the most effective strategy against a light. They literally can't do anything about it if your team is half decent at aiming. It takes a quarter of medium's AR's magazines or two grenade launcher shots to kill a light. That is barely anything.

If a light is killing you in spite of all of that, you're bad, awful even. You deserve to die every single time. It is a skill issue, and it is the whole point of the game. People better then you will succeed and win. Get over yourself. You have every advantage and still can't kill the 150 health class with splash damage or collective team shooting, its more than a skill issue, its a skill disaster.

[fiery patio]

Chainsaw for heavy. With loud atmospheric alt attack so everyone knows mad lad is close.

[regal frost]

mastery skins are boring af

[bold bone]

Light needs to have Cloak and Stun Gun removed and replaced like recon senses, so you can actually buff the rest of the class without causing a public outrage.

[sleek blade]

Mouser and keybaord on da consorel

[modern wedge]

light is annoying to play as and equally annoying to play against

[quick coyote]

his suggestions are fine. y all needs to understand what a feedback channel is, just because one posts an idea it doesnt mean devs are going to blindly implement. its all data they use to improve their way.
i don't see how a swing speed buff or damage are bad for this weapon. sure you can BLOCK damage from players, but you are still too vulnerable to properly defend yourself. 90 damage means mediums will still die in 3 hits, lights still dies in 2 hits, but heavy now will die in 4.
both heavy and lights have a melee alt click that highly increases their damage + attack distance, both can even completely negates mediums shield. so why having a lunge attack would be bad? thy can just add more ways to take down a shielded player to balance it out. even a push would be interesting.
the electric baston is a not a bad idea, just out of place in the game currently. zoom? subjective.
the only one i disagree its the movement speed while blocking, we sure don't want menacing shield players rushing while their team shoots you.

[deft moth]

probably never gonna happen since ks-23 was added,but i wished for a behemoth of a shoulder-fired "Artillery"

i'm talking about the 4-Bore rifle, firing a cartridge at the size of a soup can

if you want to know how exactly a 4-Bore shoots and looks, just take a look at "Kentucky ballistic" channel on the 4-Bore, would fit perfectely for the heavy, but im gonna be honest, not sure how it would work balance wise

[modern iron]

For the love of god please fix the bug where we’re unable to shoot

[blissful bridge]

https://tenor.com/view/and-thats-how-you-kill-the-game-how-you-ruin-a-game-mess-up-the-game-end-the-game-blake-webber-gif-14184953

[drowsy field]

bro wants to bring back recon in the worst way possible 💀 💀

[sly scarab]

queue times 😦

[umbral summit]

I not telling with on word that i losing again light. you make this up. You telling a foolish fable agains my and other opinions and telling us how ease it is to kill a light (after read explanation you can only mean afk peoples tbh dafuq) yes there is a difference between poket a ligh, a middle and a heavy. The dmg output stays the same you know? TTK ? I just compared what I experienced in game play all classes. That's just my assessment. None of the many little Tims who like to play Light only and cry now will change that .

[drowsy basalt]

Think they should first do smth about the cheaters after they can focus on the gameplay. haha

[upper citrus]

i don’t think i said that once lol. i said there’s a reason that light isn’t used ever in ranked in higher skill lobbies. which is true. you drew your own conclusion which i think is pretty telling. light loses ttk battles to pretty much every meta weapon on medium and heavy. the only part of light that really needs a nerf is the lh1 and the stun gun needs to be reverted to when it would stop the stunned person from shooting but would also end the moment they took damage.

[manic aspen]

gg asia server is dying because of chinese cheaters

[loud orchid]

Can you add either mobile auth so that they need to get a mobile verification so it's harder to cheat (you ban the mobile number) or Add a function that let me see their steam profile so that i can report on steam side aswell...

[quick coyote]

as a light dash player, make light cloak actually visible to the human visible light spectrum. its impossible to see in S2 for some reason

[bleak phoenix]

even i classic mode there are players who don't revive , light who rush solo for dying , basically solo player without team spirit

[marble lintel]

ban everyone who plays heavy, sword and cloak

[cursive parcel]

bruh, whenever i use invis i get seen instantly regardless of what i do - and yet i cannot see (and only sometimes hear them when it's too late) an enemy player under invis 95% of the time.. i genuinely don't know how or why and i've tried various settings too

[echo viper]

matchmaking is a joke

[sterile viper]

nerf aps turret by only making it absorb a limited amount of projectiles

[jaunty pawn]

On the scoreboard can the death symbol not be on the class symbol, right next to each other would be nice
Let us know the class of a teammate on their death totem

[brave knoll]

Is the ranked fucked? We are two silvers and one gold. Only matches against platinum. We have no chance....

[umbral summit]

shorter stun and longer load time time would also fine imo. invisibly should also be a bit more visual in general or at least if you move (and please use a clear other invisibly sound for the opponent team, give me goose if I assuming some opponent light is there while i just hear my own mate)

[violet spoke]

Why where the servers offline?

[hushed sable]

The first season felt like an actual game show, something that athletes would compete in and win prizes for getting that sweet victory from a long tournament. The commentators commentating, the crowd cheering, even the music felt like it's from an official competitive sport. But now, the second season makes it feel slightly different, I know how it kinda got hacked and all of that, but it just doesn't feel like an actual gameshow and it got ruined for me. I know this is just my opinion but I know that other people would agree with me on this one.

[smoky gust]

Longer reload will do absolutely nothing, since you reload before you engage

We already shortened the stun time before and it had little difference
The only thing that changed is that you are less likely to be killed by someone else after the fight ends

And shortening the stun duration also doesnt adress the problem of being froced to rely on rng hipfire to kill the light

I think we should either be able to ads or come up with some other solution

[tawny forge]

I agree, it took an aesthetic hit bc they de-emphasised june and scotty + the new map doesn't fit the vibe at all

[solid narwhal]

Add input based matchmaking and a xim/cheat detection rework so we can have kbm on console
Please and thank you. Just for some extra context: before they removed it, the aim assist did not transfer over to kbm, it was removed because some controller players thought it was unfair to play against people without a skillcap forcefully, even if the console players turned off cross-platform play they still would have been matched up with kbm players(the console kbm players instead of the pc kbm players). So in conclusion we as the people who want kbm back also do not want the aa, the aa never even existed if you were playing on kbm(not on xim) and they should add ibmm so it would be fair for both playstyles.

[bleak phoenix]

Light class is too solo play

[upper citrus]

invis needs to just be tf2 invis. theres a reason that almost every competitive game with invis uses full invis thats almost completely silent but a lot slower. less frustrating to play against and actually puts the skill in the hands of the user. also you cant shoot out of it

[daring siren]

the game is too fast paced for that, you'd make it useless

[violet elbow]

movement error on accuracy in a game like this has got to be one of the worst ideas imaginable in a video game (outside hipfire accuracy)

[quick coyote]

make construction seoul the default map and improve the whole area surrounding the helipad building/back of hospital

[vernal sparrow]

Please, for the love of God, fix the Healing Beam.

It literally does not work. Doesn't heal in any game mode except training grounds.

People have had this issue dating back to December. It's visible on stream forums and reddit.

Please please please... FIX THE HEALING GUN.

[umbral summit]

hmmm... how about the stun makes more like a antibuff? so it not stun you but you take more damage. You could add also a visual disadvantage like flashes around the view @upper citrus sry not exactly get what you mean 😅 Did you mean that inv should be liek in tf2? In tf2 spys are more visual. I would agree that invisibility not make any sound, if it would work like in overwatch with sombra (that you can see the light when it comes "too close" to you and also hear a quick warning sound)

what you guys think about to make the light hook more easy to use? I mean a bit bigger hitbox to get the corner you aim for more easy. Right now it often feels to me like you need very precise with your hooks, what is fine outside of combat but inside thinks get quickly messy. would also cool if you can cancel a hook e.g. if you fucked up. ( if this is not already in teh game and im just to blind to realize it)

[modern wedge]

ww2 era paratrooper set would go hard

[unreal fossil]

Construction Seoul is a bit of a mess, in quick cash at least. Team wipes don't feel punishing at all on this particular map/setting, because respawns are so close to the construction site when cashouts are launched. Not very fun/fair to wipe teams only to have them jump back from any side a few seconds later, with full health/ammo, while you have depleted your own. It's less of an issue in tournaments because teams have to be more careful.

[sleek flame]

Why did yall nerf glitch grenades?

[sterile viper]

make lights be able to rez their teammates 1.7x faster

[daring siren]

All melee weapons should get a block for bullets that gets broken and leaves them vulnerable after it takes enough damage

[spiral lava]

@fiery hill @hoary badger Pls! ADD a short time duration KILL CAM! to detect cheaters etc. some INFO THX

[merry totem]

Noob-ish question: Given the concerns over cheating (probably overstated given some of my own experience playing with and against very strong players and taking some time to spectate?), why doesn't Embark simply ban anyone playing way too consistently at a 'superhuman' level? Other than the obvious, which is that there might not be enough compute to track and evaluate all the necessary metrics to determine such a thing, what is the downside? Yes, they will end up temporarily banning a subset of 'pro'-ish-level players, but then they can slowly whitelist the players who appeal and have provable identity and legit skill with high enough probability. Even then, wouldn't the impacted pool of legit players be relatively small compared to the problem if it's really as bad or nearly as bad as people say and some clips make pretty obvious? Separately, I hope the whole Embark ID thing is something at least partially anti-cheat-related or at least having to do with making the actual gameplay experience more positive for the avg player. Btw - Is this spawn-point or game-feedback? Sorry if it's neither.

[upper granite]

I play medium only in ranked lul

[mossy tinsel]

Hackers have taken over the game. Be proud!

[tight musk]

I think some of the problem is there are some players who are toggling their cheats when they are losing or raging. So their K/D might not be all that high or suspicious. Sometimes they probably only toggle near the end when they know they are losing and start beaming headshots. Probably not enough data to distinguish that from regular goated players.

[pearl mica]

"Ranking matters quite a bit more for matchmaking, so what we believe this is going to do is lead to closer games with more tense moments, and with less skill disparity between players" - Quote from Embark
So why am I being matched against full Diamond teams when I am Gold 1?!?!?!??!?!!?!?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[wary hedge]

Hi guys, ffs wrong chat

[umbral summit]

https://tenor.com/view/kappa-gif-4908381

[novel lily]

stop putting me in the already started games, i dont mind it when theres still at least 6 mins left and a chance to win, but i just got put in a game with 1 min left on a team losing by 37,000 (power shift)

[severe wave]

Give the game proper matchmaking. Were full diamond and play against gold every round. Those gold people chase us everywhere like we wipe them 8 times and they still come just to get us out. Pls get proper matchmaking its not good for lower ranked and higher ranked people

[brave reef]

I don't think its possible for most servers aside NA and maybe EU due to player count

[bold silo]

Came after 2 weeks of not playing, player count still drooping and DEVS are not doing anything to balance game and make it competitive and fun to play. Buffing light and all its weapons for start sniper, sword, throwing knifes.

It is a slow death of game that had tremendous potential, sad to see.

[unreal fossil]

I was actually thinking the same thing recently. If you cross-analyse some data, there are thresholds beyond which no human player, no matter how skilled, can go. I mean, you can have excellent accuracy, recoil management, tracking, awareness... But there's just no way you can consistently land x % of your hits, of which x % are headshots, while on the move, on enemies on the move, at any distance, with hard obstacles in between. Especially not in 10 different games. Similarly, you can't have 100% of your shots hit the center of your crosshairs without cheats. Maphacking may be harder to detect with data, although there can be some hints, i.e. a player that constantly goes where the enemy players are, using the shortest path, even when he could never see/hear them. Or turn a full 180 to shoot at targets way too far to give off sound cues. It can happen a few times at random, especially when players know where the spawns are or predict enemy movements right, but beyond x % of occurences it gets suspicious.

While not removing cheats completely, it would deter the most obvious ones from being used, or at least force cheaters to turn off their softwares for some time in order to avoid detection, meaning fair players would get more air.

@bold silo do you seriously think sniper, sword and throwing knives need a buff ?... None of the three are weak in the hands of a semi-decent player.

[oblique aspen]

I had a game where literally every team had a cheater including mine, please fix anti-cheat for god sake

[smoky gust]

taking less damage is kind of an issue already
given, that's with how they achieve it currently, but it may still be frustrating if it still exists in another way

flashing also doesn't sound great
could be hard on the eyes and would come way to close to flashbang

In tf2 spys are more visual.
no they are not
you do see them if they run out/if you bump into them
but the main thing that keeps them in check is the noise
it ensures they have to have decent distance to the enemy before they engage and thus have to put in some risk when making a play

[bold lantern]

Going to repeat this once again; 3 times in a row. We're just instantly leaving now whenver we get the map, it is not good.
Oversized, lack of cover, just bland in general

[merry totem]

But assuming Embark had a high-enough quality datastream (probably the bottleneck?), the toggling itself would be the dead giveaway with most players going from relatively normal or mediocre to incredible? Unless we are talking at the highest-level, but that seems like a different kind of cheating problem, still serious, but affecting a smaller player pool? I'm just worried (not that I should worry about such things) for the size of the broader player base. If tens of thousands of players are right that they are facing cheaters and it's ruining their experience, they won't stick around for very long, the match-making will suffer, Embark won't make enough money, and we could lose a great game and they could lose years of hard work. But I admit noob-ish question, and I really do appreciate your explanation.

[mystic briar]

so many cheaters man i give up goodbye

[pseudo latch]

Day 22 of me asking for devs to remove the light class and revert all heavy nerfs

• light is an irritating little shit that corrupts everyone’s lobbies
• sub-second TTK’s upset everyone
• no one that short should be allowed to have a gun, you look like you’re twelve, put that knife down
• everyone and their mother is sick of seeing two sniper lights in any circumstance, let’s remove that from happening
• heavy deserves a 200 damage rocket, let alone a 180 damage one.
• nukes were a highly skill-intensive tool that never deserved the nerfs it got. C4 should also be insta-detonated to make up for the fact they ever nerfed it
• M60 should have zero recoil, as god intended.

[crisp axle]

lmaooo

[lean birch]

🤣 I hope it's a joke

[placid valley]

Soo many cheaters, we had 9 people cheating in the match. that doesn't fair we still lose points. How to play when the other 3 teams are all hackers? god damn, also all Chinese ID

[subtle saddle]

From a light player so Tru vicc. Happy holidays!

[rigid lance]

Embark needs to up thier anti cheats I ran into cheaters all the time now it’s getting ridiculous

[true zinc]

im plat 4 and i face a team of 3 diamond ones. FIX YOUR GAME

[pearl mica]

Gold 1 matched again against a full diamond team who is cheating!! When will they address this? The devs are silent......

[umbral summit]

typo i meant more dmg.

[solar sparrow]

Gold 2 just matched against a full leaderboard team

[smoky gust]

if you take more damage or the light takes less damage doesn't make a difference
ttk is still heavily skewed in their favor for stunning the enemy, which can make it feel like bs

it may be better than the rng hipfire we currently have but we should probably look for a different solution

[slim sun]

More rpg mechanics??

[stuck ocean]

What is wrong with the audio. No voice chat 1 on 2 game. No fuckin audio time to time with nearby enemies, the jump on me no audio, they shoot next to me no audio, etc... the only thing you hear is your gunshots / building collapsing/ nades / bombs. Not even the tickets for mines... plz do something your game is so fun... ah and also about the team colors... can t you do like red Green blue yellow or purple.... what s wrong with Light réd Light pink Light orange can t differenciate things...

[quick coyote]

hmmm, yeah i play torneys more often. they need to improve how quick cash works, im not a fan of the way respawn works in that mode.

[ionic hinge]

petition to nerf LH1, XP-54, SA1216 and the guardian turret, or make bunny bash a permanent gamemode, posted on 1/4/2024 (im serious about this acknowledging that its april fools rn)

[mystic briar]

All the issues will probably get addressed when the game has 100 daily players xD

[upper granite]

happy 1. of april ig

[subtle copper]

add an option to disable the glitch effect on the UI when dead. kinda headache inducing

[merry totem]

Glad to hear I'm not totally insane. I will say one uncontroversial, unoriginal thing: the people involved in cheating in video games are some evil, selfish individuals. It's one thing to cheat in baseball or football or chess. Those sports don't really cost anything to exist, they're just the sum total of their rules. Whatever cheating that goes on is not an existential threat to the sport. Meanwhile, probably north of a million person-hours have been put into creating The Finals. And you're going to be one of the cheaters that collectively threaten the result of all that time, energy, and money? Selfish and evil. Try to think of other people for goodness sake. Uncontroversial and unoriginal, obviously, but doesn't it say plenty that most people understand that.

[quick coyote]

Plats should go up against Diamonds lol that is actually within reasonable range.
Out of all of the rank complaining, this is probably the least problematic. I see diamonds play against/with golds with no party and that's such a far gap.

[limber umbra]

I think they game really desperately needs a prestige system or something similar level 50 is not even close to high enough... competitive players have nothing to grind for once they reach level 50 and hit diamond...

I'm already diamond for season 2 and have been level 50 for months I think some sort of level system with cool level icons that would be displayed in game might make players more inclined to play. It took me barely any time at all to reach diamond this season and now I'm not playing I don't see a reason for it I can't earn anything more nor can I level up at all

[dreamy latch]

Quick melee shouldn’t cancel sprinting

[vernal sparrow]

PLEASE FIX THE HEALING GUN!

Since December players have been reporting problems with the healing gun just not working at all during matches. It impacts some players more than others, and it doesn't impact some players at all.

I have not had a working healing gun for over a month now. It has worked for maybe one match, or in the training grounds.

When I get into any other game mode it just fails to heal. The blue beam never appears regardless of the distance or situation. It's horribly broken.

Worse there are challenges that require healing which I am stuck on and cannot progress because the tool is broken.

PLEASE FIX THE HEALING GUN

[unreal fossil]

I get that it's meant to be a fun casual mode, which is why team wipes/respawns are not punishing, but sometimes it feels unfair to dominate but still get beaten because you get backstabbed by the team you just wiped, only because they respawned very close behind you, with full health/ammo

[solid narwhal]

Add input based matchmaking and a xim/cheat detection rework so we can have kbm on console
Please and thank you.

[quick coyote]

exactly, a lot of times i lose in that game is mostly because we just fought orange team, had all cooldowns on gadgets/specs while the purple team that just spawned in our back has everything + full hp
you barely have time to breath in quick cash, in some points is worse beacause of the close respawns (like contruction you mentioned)

[bold silo]

I don't think I know because I am good player at least, and statistics show.

[glacial knot]

There is 2 things that you need to fix before you add and remove any map or nerf and improve any weapon. Fix matchmaking so that the ranked mode should be only 2 round and 1 final round so that the battle requires only 8 teams instead 16 teams and remove light class from ranked mode, light class has no team support or team usefull gadget and most light class players push always solo using cloak and thats it if you give them only gadgets and ability to push solo @whole umbra

[wary void]

can this matchmaking be dealt with, I get not many people are playing, but it's frustrating as a silver player getting in only with Plat and Diamond lobbies in ranked

[split drift]

either get better mods or better anticheat. how the hell do i find platinum cheaters. people get all the way to diamond before they catch a ban? I get a cheater every third game, do better embark

[spare igloo]

Just got out of a lobby as a gold where 1 team was a 3 stack of diamonds, feels like that shouldn't happen

[timber gulch]

add a ping after death feature the amount of times ive died and could of told my temmates abt danger but cant

[umbral summit]

maybe but in my opinion a antibuff to deal more dmg is more fiar than a stun. ynwim?

[merry totem]

https://tenor.com/view/the-office-thank-you-thanks-michael-scott-gif-17872454

[slim sun]

wished i had an april fool today but i undersnatd

[limber umbra]

I think they game really desperately needs a prestige system or something similar level 50 is not even close to high enough... competitive players have nothing to grind for once they reach level 50 and hit diamond...

I'm already diamond for season 2 and have been level 50 for months I think some sort of level system with cool level icons that would be displayed in game might make players more inclined to play. It took me barely any time at all to reach diamond this season and now I'm not playing I don't see a reason for it I can't earn anything more nor can I level up at all

[quick coyote]

pls reach out to player support, let them know you have this issue; devs are having a hard time understanding why this is happening to some and not to everyone

[regal ferry]

please buff teamates

[spark mantle]

Please add The Finals to older consoles

[unkempt marsh]

Thats likely impossible since the graphics processing is just not able to handle it unless you run it at barebones graphics. As unfortunate as it is the answer is just upgrade systems, it's what you have to do to play newer games.

[lean birch]

BUGS
Fix the bug of not being able to use weapons,specializations and utilities, it happens very often when you spawn,you have to die and use coins to return to normal,its frustrating and makes you stop playing
Some white floors,after dematerializing or breaking,maintain their texture so that you can shoot or fall if you step on them,but you can't see through them
Ranked
Fix matchmaking system on ranked(higher ranks fall in matches with lower ranks,giving them privileged)
Show progress on ranked and be more transparent with the scoring you use
Anti cheat
Improve your anti cheat(We all know that in even big company games,cheaters are there,and it won't be any different in the finals)
Weapons and specialization
Nerfs weapons that don't need to aim,such as flamethrowers,grenade launchers,swords(in an FPS game these weapons need to have bigger bullet drop,smaller range,less bullet,longer reload time or smaller hit box,so that the player who has the skill of aim has a chance against those who don't,is it a competitive game or not?)
Increase a weapon's recoil or decrease damage isn't the only way to nerf it
L Invisibility could be slightly more visible(So that it becomes balanced by its speed,size and weapons with high cadence)
H Hand shield could be slightly nerfed(So that it makes sense how much life and the number of bullets your weapons have)
Toxic players
There are toxic players who disrupt the game(so that this doesn't happen frequently,the option to block players so that they don't join your team again)
Console
Enable mouse and keyboard on console(because you made the game crossplatform to have more players,so why not give them the opportunity to play against each other as equals?aim assistance is a joke)
Optimize the game for console,at least for the new generation(enable 120 fps and fix the crash and the drop performance problem)
PC
NVDIA DLSS isn't making any difference in the game
Number of players
Invest in marketing,streammers

[smoky gust]

Could be fairer than a stun
No way to know at the moment

But it cant stay the way it is currently

[placid valley]

light needs some buffs with ranked gameplay style. not enough AOE control and also lack of ability to def a cash out.

[unreal fossil]

What do you mean by ability to defend a cashout ?

[pseudo latch]

Day 22 of me begging the devs to give heavy an M134 Minigun as a Specialization.

• 200 Round magazine, ammo is restored two bullets every second, 100 seconds for a full reload.
• 20 rounds per second, eleven damage a round, 220 DPS
• Falloff begins at 30 meters down to six damage a shot at 50, but wide spread means the weapon becomes less effective past 10 meters even against larger targets
• bullets do high damage to structures, allowing a mid-range option to output mass destruction (destroying entire walls on higher floors of buildings, ripping apart nesting sightlines)
• • significant damage to structures and players
• • gun can be pre-spooled with RMB over having an ADS (for obvious reasons, you try to aim down the sights of a water cooler)|
• • high suppressive force through sheer amount of bullets being fired
• • its a goddamn minigun
• - Heavy cannot jump or sprint while holding it, has to switch back to primary
• - lengthy equip-unequip time to balance such
• - gun has to spool up for a second before firing, spool up being LOUD

[copper lark]

probably means stuff like stun which stops a steal, glitch to break shields allowing for easier defense, breaching charge to play drops, gateway to hold the point from safer spots alone or with team, oh i guess light has tons of ways to defend a cashout

[upper citrus]

if only the stun gun functioned how it did before the open beta rework. it was so much better for the game

[glacial swallow]

Add a feature to refresh daily contracts early for 1500 VRs or something. I want more quests and more things to use VRs on, Easy solution.

[spark mantle]

So they can't lower the graphics for older consoles?

[stable turtle]

Live rank progression would be beautiful to have

[edgy lotus]

i CANNOT stress enough how much I need a ping that says "no. don't go there. Under NO circumstance go there." because apparently spamming danger on the cashout that you've already tried and failed to capture isn't enough to get your teammates to NOT go there and go to the other cashout with both more time left and less enemies at.

[keen lily]

is the ranked bugged? been grinding plat 3 for a couple of days, almost never losing in 1st round, just won a tournament and I didn't rank up?
edit: when I click on leaderboard it doesn't load up anything for me, could it be that my ranked games do not count somehow?

[crisp agate]

Would be really cool to see casual wins count slightly towards your rank

[fading linden]

It counts towards ur sbmm

[normal locust]

whats point to play the finals when we have to facing vs cheaters in every 1-2 matches? This game gonna die 100%
even we reported cheaters, but we still lose our points.

[small socket]

*** You should be able to invite friends to practice range and be able to shoot them like a freeplay gamemode ***

[thick sorrel]

Prevent matchmaking with Block Player please! I don't wanna play with same cheaters again and again...

[mystic ether]

PLS MAKE A GAME CHAT AND ALSO MAKE IT SO UR ABLE TO WHISPER TO PEOPLE ON UR FRIENDSLIST

[glacial dew]

bring back unranked tournament

[acoustic storm]

APS should only destroy throwables in line of sight.

[halcyon orchid]

nerf pls de healing all times 2 healing and heavy push fuck off

[cunning warren]

I drop the game too, all my friends did, game is full of cheatters. (No, not skill use, I am top 170)

[cobalt snow]

Placed bronze 4 on ranked, played a game where I dropped 30 kills 15 revives and 19 deaths. Made it to the final round of the tournament and lost. I didn’t rank up even once from bronze 4 -> 3.

In season 1 I would’ve moved up 1-2 sub ranks. For saying individual performance matters, I don’t see it.

[blissful bridge]

I'm having a blast playing casual modes. Ranked is full of cheaters. Competitive gaming is toxic in that way. Always focused on rankings, so you'll encounter more cheaters trying to garner clout in leaderboards. I hope the issue is solved soon because cheating hurts the player-base. It's okay to enjoy winning, but if you only derive enjoyment from it you'll always be at a loss when gaming.

[echo void]

Day 3 of asking The Finals to add CD/DVD Skin to throwing knives

[solid narwhal]

Controller is getting stale. It also has a skillcap, please give us back kbm on console and add ibmm so it would be fair to both playstyles(controller and kbm)

[unique wasp]

input matchmaking on PC and console alike is something it'd be nice to see more of

[junior dawn]

REMOVE THE ABILITY FOR HEAVIES TO ATTACH MINES TO THEIR RPG. IT MAKES NO SENSE IDK HOW THEYRE DOING IT BUT IT NEEDS TO BE REMOVED

[gleaming peak]

When can we get a save outfits feature, not classes but outfits. It would be nice to be able to save and change fits with the push of a button

[crisp agate]

But I mean like get me closer to diamond 😭

[hidden locust]

I want them to fix weapon inspect i get them in the battlepass and they just unequip randomly same with skins
If im spending money i wanna use the stuff

[frigid nexus]

No point in spending money if all of these negatives aspects aren’t fixed. It’s almost as if it rewards bad development

[visual bronze]

i have been sitting in a we are waiting for other contestants to connect for 15 MINS is this a bug?

[stray basalt]

The pfp suits u

[orchid abyss]

Day 3 of updating and sharing my feedback about the game to the devs in a big google docs: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ZXv-knucg7a3zmLnR6XdTihPMGaz1-7Rk8AwcpBApno

[hollow badger]

There should be a thing thats shows at the end of ranked that shows if you gained rank or not.

[sonic spoke]

love the coffee cup emote!

[woeful arch]

Thanks for reaching out, you're right I might have to learn to be chill with my completionist nature 😋

One thing I feel could be better implemented by the UI of the game is maybe have a checkmark icon instead of "7/7" total count to show when a player has done "enough" objectives for the week to be on track with end-season reward. Then the player would understand that doing anything extra is more of a personal preference (as in trying hard/getting good/going out of their comfort zone) and failing to complete those extra objectives won't have a negative impact on their Career progression down the road. It's the lack of clarity on this point that causes a bit of stress, like... what if I don't do all objectives, then there's a timeout for how long is left to do them and by end of season I miss out on the big reward(s) because I didn't do XYZ number of objectives 😰 There could defo be some improvement here so completionists can have their mind at ease and play what/how they like.

[hasty trout]

Heavies should be as fast as lights during the low gravity event ☝🏻 lol

[severe wave]

https://tenor.com/view/varunishnanda-keep-dreaming-keep-dreaming-gif-gif-26058831

[foggy pagoda]

Please add 120Hz mode on consoles, allow crossplay between consoles and PCs without the need to have a PC player next to the console to play games, add keyboard and mouse support on consoles.

[unreal fossil]

Read through it, feels just like your average online rant, which honestly doesn't make it very pleasant (do this ! do that !). Won't discuss it point by point but it gave me the impression that 1) you mostly play casual games and not tournaments 2) you think L is somewhat OP and H is weak.

Most players I've read say the contrary and I agree to some extent. Heavies aren't that strong on their own, but become powerhouses when properly supported by (at least one) Medium. Which is the whole point of a teamplay oriented game. And Lights well... they're annoying, but rarely ever tilt games in favor of their team.

There are some things I did agree on, and some ideas I'd like Embark to explore (you mentioned random specialization when several players use the same, I'd be more in favor of alternative game modes where all teams MUST be LMH...).

[pseudo breach]

Day 6 of asking to put map rotation on a timer for casual. Really sick of getting Horizon and or Vegas 90% of the time.

Also, can we please get South African servers?

[rotund geyser]

The need to increase the KS-23 ammo to 8 at least, 6 is to low, 4 shot to kill only 1 heavy

[tacit patrol]

The cashout does not make noise for the majority of someone stealing it. I've lost multiple games now to no sound being played

[sudden trail]

skins should have in game video examples like guns do. Otherwise how can people know that skins such as sticky situation revolver has a unique reloading animation without searching on youtube? Who knows, maybe they will pay for that skin just beacuse they will get excited more when they see the animation.

[subtle cove]

I've been having problems with the melee auto aim. Sometimes it helps, sometimes it makes my spin 180 degrees to try to hit someone behind me that I wasn't trying to hit ._.
Perhaps some tweaking to it might be nice? and maybe even a way to turn it off in the settings :3

[fluid anchor]

L SPAWN THANK YOU EMBARK FOR MAKING US LOSE THE ROUND, revert it back to the way it was in season 1

[iron plinth]

improve ur fking cheating system

[orchid abyss]

I will have to fix that, i dont want it to look like a rant. I don't speak English, so I'm trying to translate it as straightforwardly as possible without trying to impose anything. Like I said, it's a suggestions file. But what I do try to make readers to emphasize is how I and some of my friends FEEL about the current balance. Lately, I'm starting to disagree with how things are being balanced because it FEELS like it's taking the path of undermining all classes to favor one. Players seems to love that idea, and its most likely they are the ones abusing those mechanics and i blame the game for allowing it. Ranked is all i play. The game feels smoother with no lights in every single game. And about the random specialization, its just an idea not sure if it would FEEL good but i want to acomplish 2 things with that change: 1. make players adapt to multiple playstyles 2.add diminishing returns to avoid triple specializations. thanks for the feedback, any other ideas are welcome.

[pliant lion]

Can you improve the colorblind settings? Maybe let us choose our own enemy team colors so I'm not stuck with 3 shades of purple as enemy teams

[last saddle]

Ranked is just absolute god damn misery. Please change that weekly challenge. It is way, way, WAY too early for one like that.

[wind osprey]

My game won’t load keeps saying fatal error “login failed due to a service interruption please try again later “

[lilac temple]

Day 1 of supporting VV's suggestion

[fallen mirage]

I’m definitely with you on this suggestion. I’ve made so many errors thinking an enemy team member is my own 👍🏻

[median path]

Can we have the option for turning off the glitching effect on the battle season 2 outfit

[lime fable]

Can i get some white jeans, and a white jumper

[modern wedge]

ww2 era general combat uniform set?

[molten sage]

ranked is a absolute fun killer, how is it possible that you can get teammates who managed to pull off 0 kills during 3 rounds, in silver 2, isnt ranking all about individual performance now?
@quick coyote thats not the point though

[tawny oriole]

This is what say the finals support about this error code : Thank you for contacting us. This error indicates our system has detected software or settings on your PC that may be bypassing our anti-cheat protections or interfering with game files.

If you believe you are seeing this message in error, please double check:

• That your PC has not been configured to bypass Easy Anti-Cheat.
• That you do not have any unauthorized third party software installed that is designed to alter or disrupt gameplay or game files.

Also kindly see our FAQs and Fair Play guidelines here in case you would like to know what the system deems ban-eligible and avoid this from happening moving forward;

https://embark-studios.helpshift.com/hc/en/3-the-finals/faq/44-anti-cheat-faq/
https://embark-studios.helpshift.com/hc/en/3-the-finals/faq/76-the-finals-fair-play-guidelines/

Please uninstall or disable any software that may be bypassing or tampering with our anti-cheat or game files. This should resolve the error.

Best regards,
KttyWngz

[empty sundial]

I mean, I got 2 matches where both teammates were AFK... so yeah I know

[quick coyote]

So many people complain about team mates in ranked when it takes like 5 minutes tops to find people around your skill level in #lfg-na-ranked

[keen beacon]

nerf triple medium

[brittle latch]

Lol

[old bough]

I was wondering if there would ever be a menu to swich voice types? I know its not that big of a deal but I just think it would be nice to have that option ^^

[near snow]

start banning cheaters or cheaters will be the only people playing your game

[wooden nexus]

i can't find ranked for 4 minutes

[unreal fossil]

Well the tone is off sometimes, doesn't seem like constructive comments even though that's the whole point of your write up. Anyway, I understand that you're sharing feelings about the game. However I disagree on the undermining all classes in favor of one. You say players who 'support' it must be the ones abusing it. Similarly, people who complain about it are likely the ones who never tried/wouldn't be able to play said class right... I've played mainly as H/L throughout S1 and now S2. I could say that Lights are OP because I got killed by them many times. But I'm also honest enough to see -even though I don't really play the class- that me and my team often killed them, very quickly. And that they rarely ever made an impact on the outcome of the game. I actually recently picked up the class myself to get a better idea, and yes, I do find it difficult to make as much of a difference as you would with H/M, because you're weak, have to pick fights wisely and evade quickly if you get hit -leaving your allies on their own. You can rack up kills but does it win games by itself ? Usually, not.

I've seen enough balance discussions to find out that lots of people blame their own shortcomings in a game on things they don't use/know how to use being OP, may it be armies, classes, weapons, items... It's an easy excuse.

[rough hinge]

Completely rework ranked & do something about the cheating ("ChEaTeRs ExiST in EVerYGAME") shut up, they do but not this bad.

[rugged adder]

Please bring back casual tournament, ranked alone is too much

[wise pine]

Reduce team wipeout timer when your team is down a player, makes no sense to have a team wipeout for 2 people in cash out, when you're already handicapped by having one less player.

[versed cloud]

Why do I keep getting queued up with people I am blocking

[little steppe]

Yeah, I like playing ranked, but I don't have a shot in hell at winning a tournament when I'm definitely bronze fighting through 4 matches of silver+

[pale turret]

I did 12 finals I still haven’t increased in rank what is this new system 🤦‍♂️

[sterile viper]

bring back the progression bar

[violet solstice]

Ohh give it a rest already, no-one wants the heavy to have a 200 round mini gun to dominate the server with...SMFH. As if the heavy doesnt already have a big enough advantage over all other classes, lets just make them invincible with a 200 round mini gun FFS u are a tool!

[orchid abyss]

I only play H/L too (open beta 3 only light, s1 and s2 both). If you get killed as ligth is mostly your fault, and that alone is bad because the existence of light means your team has 1 less player but that doesnt change the fact that you can delete players with no effort and snowball entire teams because of that, i dont want the light class to be nerfed (i play a lot of light) BUT due to multiple nerfs in a row the other classes have had now light class feel overpowered (why does every player ive invited to the game prefers light?? broken gadgets, more fun than others, less teamplayer playstyle.. the game shouldnt reward this), too much to comfort. Literally the first thing i mentioned was all the advantages they have, theres too many, you cannot say the same for the other classes, all those things got removed from the game. Not fair, not fun. An i provide examples, being RPG and C4 one of the biggest.

[shut bane]

Improve aim assist

[pseudo leaf]

fix spawn points like there is a cash out isn't active and there are already two teams fighting then another team spawns for "not putting in intentionally" then trd parties. The team that killed re spawns at the same point then them trd parties. It is an infinite loop.

[subtle tree]

Im convinced that all the complaints about cheaters are just sub-par players. I play exclusively ranked NA, haven't played against someone I thought was cheating in months. +200 hours by in game timer. +300 hours by steam timer.

[round anchor]

we want due ranked

[old bough]

I was wondering if there would ever be a menu to swich voice types? I know its not that big of a deal but I just think it would be nice to have that option ^^ Im not sure how long it would take it may be a hard thing to do but I just think that it would be very cool!

[nimble field]

I just think your wrong dude the light really isn't op

[earnest fossil]

I hate to say it, but the Grenade Launcher for Medium is way better than KS-23. In fact I rather have that for my heavy.

Maybe alt click switch ammo type?

[late cobalt]

Can we get a search for party option like how mw3 has so we can play with like minded people also the mic problem on console still isn’t fixed all we need is a push to talk if u want a simple fix please it’s been months also medium’s grenade launcher is nonsense

[signal root]

We need a behind-the-scenes rework on melee weapon registration, l’m so over how jank melees work in modern games.

Lights shouldn’t have a dagger backstab that works from a yard away
Riot Shield just needs help
And Sledge shouldn’t miss at point blank.

Normally l can give good input, but this one is just out of frustration

[humble osprey]

Make keyboard and mouse compatible with ps5

[pseudo latch]

Well no offense, but so far, you’d be the first person directly against the idea, so you’re sorely outnumbered to the twenty some people who think it’s cool.

Also not saying you have to like the idea but come now, show some maturity. If you think the idea is flawed I am open to constructive criticism.

[fluid anchor]

@pseudo latch I'm against your idea too

[severe wave]

https://tenor.com/view/helldivers-2-freedom-gif-14940215766175527919

[calm gate]

i just had a game with a guy in gold 3 and he played like a bronze player. This ranking system isn't about individual performance at all

[shut bane]

Aim assist need to rework

Please

[lost ivy]

Give us the option to limit discord channel size. No one wants to deal with the spam. Also an idea for powershift that could make it more interesting is random loadouts or 1 loadout for all players that changes every 2-3 minutes

[slender path]

Where do we report bugs? The heal gun lock-on issue is pushing me to the edge

[oblique bane]

Anybody else having an issue with being able to get into a game some games it just loads I’ll start hearing the game go on in the background but it’s just stuck on the loading screen I’ve had to restart application like 4 times in the last 3 hours

[late cobalt]

Yea this happens to me pretty frequently have to restart the game and try again

[old charm]

Smoke grenades and canisters should create a thick cloud rather than a slight fog you can easily see through

[subtle tree]

It's not the weapons, it's the netcode. Fighting melees feels bad for the same reason you sometimes die while fully behind cover.

Could be the server tick rate, could also just be a lack of verification between the server and clients. Could also be that the netcode prefers the attacking player.

Just a little added context to make everyone feel better - that guy with the sword that killed you from 5-10 meters away, is not actually 5-10 meters away. On his end, he's right up in your face, where he's supposed to be.

[steep shuttle]

add game chat with team and all capabilities, this is a lot of work i know but games like overwatch 2 and valorant also do it. also i understand this is probably in the works all ready for the finals but im just saying it to make sure that its out there

[merry totem]

h/t Ser Branard on yt and his recent video but thought I'd also post my comment here. He was diagnosing how The Finals incorporates both fast-paced and strategic play, and since many FPS players gravitate toward one or the other, The Finals risks alienating both groups on some level. This might not be insurmountable, except Branard notes that the onboarding experience for first-time players is arguably rougher than it could be. Anyway, my comment was just one about a casual mode that might appeal to players just learning the mechanics of the game and looking for some fun and I could be way off (zero game design experience) but I'll post mine and maybe others have ideas: "Solo Bank It except instead of 12 players and the full map, which I think is what they tried in season 1, have fewer players, maybe as few as 4(?), maybe both solo and duo queuing (I'm just trying to hit all the bases mentioned, and I often see 2 friends queuing, maybe with the twist that it is still solo mode, so that a duo might cooperate with each other, compete with each other, or a mixture of both, where I guess you'd need to have friendly fire). This probably means restricting the maps, which offers some interesting options for devs and the mode, but I think this also might be another really good thing for new players instead of being dropped into some massive map that is super hard to learn entirely? To solve respawns, all I can think of is random respawns starting outside the map boundaries, but I don't know. It's a hard problem that is posed in the video, but it's also super interesting, and what you call for seems like exactly what The Finals needs."

[arctic thistle]

hey does anyone know how to see your Fame points in the finals? Also, is it just me or does everyone not get a rank screen when the finish the round? Shouldn’t there be a visual to show you how close or far away from the next rank you are?

[scenic kiln]

fix the melee animations not playing half the time and the melee aim assist moving your camera away from enemies

[quartz sleet]

add more clothing in like cases or packs or literally in any format so I can make more fits

[languid tangle]

does anyone want a snipers only gamemode or get rid of the snipers all together from the gamne

[odd pond]

ban snipers from power shift only. Maybe bank it too? In cashout they're fine.

[shut bane]

Improve aim assist

[glacial knot]

Light class is generally useless

[paper dock]

FIX YOUR ANTI CHEAT I WOULD THINK MAKING IT SO PEOPLE CAN OPEN YOUR GAME TO PLAY IT WOULD BE TOP PRIORITY

[quick coyote]

No we just ignore you. Giving any class a secondary weapon is a terrible idea

[merry totem]

True, very good points on not always having clarity on some of the parameters around the objectives and contracts. I can tell Embark tries hard, but sometimes just having the rules and specifications laid out in a simple text block would be both sufficient and efficient, if not very aesthetically appealing (especially annoying if Embark has posted the rules and specs somewhere else but not just simply via the dedicated screen in-game). Anyway, good luck knocking out those contracts and objectives. 🙂

[winged flume]

nerf dash, like I swear the devs jsut dont give af about this game and how unbalanced it is

[quick coyote]

Like the idea is fucking badass I'll admit but balance wise it's kinda impossible.

[exotic lagoon]

LOOTBOXES:

If you could win ONE (1) key by winning a tournament or by buying them I would love to have lootboxes.

Many people would grind tournaments for them (including me) and a lot of people (streamers alike) could do like lootboxes openings or whatever they wanna do with their money.

In my opinion the tournament gamemode could have much higher stakes by giving a concrete reward instead of only rankup. As long as there is a FREE way to earn keys, you can make it as difficult as you want and I'm in.

[severe wave]

💯 ❤️

[modern wedge]

https://tenor.com/view/blm-gif-25815938

[scenic kiln]

heavy has a secondary weapon already (rpg), i personally think making the tracking dart into more of a secondary weapon would be good, just something small like 50 damage

[pure salmon]

Cheating exists in every competitive game: Tarkov, COD, PUBG, chess, baseball. The devs are just as frustrated as we are that cheating exists, and I'm sure they are working hard on ameliorating the problem. As gamers, we just need to understand that cheating is not going away completely, so just accept it, and move to the next game. Compared to other games I've played recently, I don't see an unusual amount of cheaters. Having said that, I hope they increase the amount of rounds you need to play before being able to enter ranked.

[hallow tartan]

They should drop knives like csgo

[elder flare]

Please, for the love of god, add the option to disable the melee aim assist (or just completely remove it)
It is so atrocious and only works against me, usually ends up with me missing easy hits or getting completely disoriented

[glacial knot]

80% steam diamond players that i faced since the release of the game are cheaters. . You can easily ban top 50 without any doubt

[median basin]

get rid of snipers

[exotic lagoon]

I'll never pay 20$ for ONE gun skin however buying 6 x 4$ crates to get it seems reasonable to me

[sick hare]

Can we please fix the crashes or at least let us join back into the game.

[boreal ridge]

can we please start banning the cheaters, most of them have hundreds of hours in the game and even bought skins, its PATHETIC

[placid valley]

Ranked environment is a mess. People are just cheating generally. No wonder people are leaving. There's nothing fun to play ranked in the game, and unranked is not competitive enough.

[humble osprey]

Make keyboard and mouse compatible with ps5 thanks!

[stoic falcon]

hacker report feedback plz

[woeful arch]

Thank you, you as well!

[upper venture]

Is it normal for my entire PC to freeze for ten seconds at a time while playing? Cause it only happens when I'm out in the open or being chased by someone and my game freezes and I get killed with no way to defend myself. And it seems like there's no way to fix it, even if I put my graphics settings to low

[river current]

rebuff sa1216（diffusion and range）

[late cobalt]

Game screams strategy but game chat doesn’t work ☠️ who made this game when is the fix lazy ahh devs busy adding micro transactions instead of fixing loading screen glitch’s no game chat horrible game modes thought they were gonna add more but it’s been a while since launch and it’s still the most unfun gamemodes playing the same nonsense rewrapped listening to fat ahh sweats made this game is completely unwelcoming to new players boot up the game to get slammed 20-0 to a light with a pistol two tapping while my light zooming around thirsty for kills like this teamdeath match ☠️ game filled with cheaters especially ranked why is there snipers in power shift can’t even stand on the plat without getting snipped from a stinky light who just dash’s from roof to roof sniping game lags like I’m running a damn bitcoin mine in the background add performance mode no wonder this game died just as fast as it came up ts is insane game chat is required in a strategy based game how can we have strategy if I can’t even talk to my teammates ☠️ Game makes me want to delete it and never touch it again I say again please I’m begging you fix your game chat so we can have some damn team coordination it works every 15 games

[bitter tangle]

Day 17 of asking for a graphical performance mode!!!

We need it 😄

[signal root]

Also, dont ever make challenges that require letting the opponents progress. Having to deal 3k damage to opponents on the platform in Power Shift is absurd. I shouldn’t have to give them a chance

[fathom glacier]

maybe lets do something about the cheaters. I hate getting into a game with a light going 33-0 who is unkillable and hitting SMG (WHICH DOESNT HAVE ANY FALL OFF) from a mile away

[glacial knot]

The game is not about who has the best skills but who has the best cheat 🤷‍♂️,

[solid narwhal]

Controller is getting stale. It also has a skillcap, please give us back kbm on console and add ibmm so it would be fair to both playstyles(controller and kbm)

[lunar vault]

wtb any form of actual matchmaking

[sacred siren]

Which ones? Or are you saying that anyone that kills you with a headshot is a cheater? I'm not saying there's no cheaters but saying that 80% of them are cheating is absurd. Personally I've only seen one or two hackers every week, and coming from cs that's a completely acceptable amount.

[near snow]

whatever you guys did to the game recently has made it very unstable, ive maybe had a handful of crashes since launch but today ive crashed 3 times within an hour of playtime

[boreal quarry]

embark please i cant even load in

[subtle tree]

I smell a gambling addict.

[real solstice]

Whats going on with the server will i still get a penalty for not being able to reconnect ?

[tawny oriole]

If the devs would create a report channel on discord where we can share cheaters gameplay , we re gonna see how much cheaters are ther outside espacially from platin rank and above. But the devs are not interessted to ban cheaters because ther are so many and if they ban all of them they will lose 50% of the pc players, console players are using cornus zen they already find a solution to bypass cronus detection by ps 5. By the way, I've been following the cheaters scene for a long time and I know what I'm talking about

[placid valley]

come Asian server. you will meet cheaters in every single ranked match if you survive long enough

[astral dune]

Please please please nerf the APS. Grenade launcher users are already at a significant disadvantage every fight. Why have a item that can make someones weapon completely useless? Its just lame

[boreal ridge]

Please disable grenade launchers, they are too easy to use, they require no skill and are too annoying

[hearty birch]

30fps on low settings 👍

[still walrus]

That’s the problem right there.. the fact that some are blatantly hacking so its obvious and reportable and then there are those who are more subtle but still seem to toggle it out of no where, this is a problem when it comes higher elo since you’ll find it harder to distinguish between skill and hacks..

[little oyster]

@bitter nexus @quick coyote yo pls here's a tip for rank can u add some type of percentage or something in rank so I know if I'm close to the next rank or not like 30% until gold 2 just some type of percentage so I'm not confused if I'm doing any progress or not

[eager vine]

Wow I just played Ranked and I had three issues like wtf
Couldn't heal, couldn't place down a jump pad at one point and then got a weird spawn near enemies...

[marsh niche]

i truly miss unranked tournament

[subtle tree]

@rigid lance @still walrus It's not hacks, it's NETCODE. The latency in this game (regardless of your ping) is not good, resulting in very unusual circumstances, especially when you die. This can be credited for all the times you get behind cover and still get shot, or get killed by a melee player who is clearly not in range.

@daring fossil this guy understands what's happening. Don't wine about head glitching though, it isn't a glitch. Bullets are produced at your eyes.

[signal root]

Can we add extra info on friends like what they’re playing or how long they’ve been in matches? It’d be helpful for when trying to coordinate getting a team 🙂
All l’d really want it to say, for example “is playing Ranked Tournament” with a round indicator and a timer would be awesome to start with!

[near silo]

Nerf the FCAR's dps. The guns dps is its main problem. By directly reducing the power of the FCAR you can let other weapons shine much more, and create a much more fun meta.

At the moment, the FCAR does 250 dps, being its fire-rate is 600 rpm and damage is 25. This is 25% higher than its closest rival, being the AKM. Additionally, this does not take headshots into account.

Its skill required does not match the results- it should not perform better than high skill intensive weapons.
Currently, it is still a high-reward low-risk weapon, its low-risk as its a fast-firing automatic hitscan weapon and these factors massively increase constancy and lower its skill floor. Compare it to any high-risk weapons, like the revolver which is high-risk high-reward- its slow-firing, manual operated and very limited in its shots, but does good damage and great hs damage.

For example, a player misses 40% of their shots each second. With the FCAR since you are shooting more rounds each second, you have a higher probability to hit more of your shots compared to the slow-firing weapon and the slow firing weapon experiences much higher variance, as a lower frequency of shots means a higher likelyhood of missing targets, leading to a lower average damage output.

Suggested changes
RPM: 600 -> 500
DMG: 25 -> 24

DPS is now 200 and shots required are all increased by 1, most importantly the light which its ttk goes from 0.5 to 0.72.

[short dagger]

They should give us medium a katana

[merry totem]

I think others have said this before, but it would be nice to have a 'blocking' feature that actually meant I wouldn't be matched with certain players in the future, as well. I know it's hard enough to form matches, but it's not clear to me that it would necessarily hurt the success of the game and perhaps it would help. Obv everyone would prefer more options in a game, but I could understand if there was a reason such a feature couldn't be one. A 'nice to have,' though, in my opinion.

[waxen cosmos]

I think this ranked system needs a whole rework u guys messed it up nobody is enjoying it because it makes little to no sense I was top 500 last season and this season but I’m officially saying goodbye to ranked until it’s changed it makes no sense to play and is a waste of time all around atm

[wooden atlas]

I don’t know if this is the right channel, but I’ll put it here anyway: I have an idea for a new casual mode. It’s basically the same as the old Juggernaut mode from Tanki Online—one player gets an extremely powerful build and everyone else has to gang up on and destroy them. Give the “juggernaut” player heavy HP or a little more (maybe 400) and one or more very powerful weapons, then put everyone else on one team against him alone on the other team. Whoever kills him becomes the next “juggernaut”, and whoever has the most kills at the end (or maybe whoever is the juggernaut at the end wins).

(Alternatively we could have two teams that each get a juggernaut, and each juggernaut kill is a point, but I think the other idea is better)

Thoughts?

[near snow]

when you open the battle pass make it go to the page you currently are going through. not sure why yall got rid of this mid season 1

[versed dagger]

can we buff teammates?

[marsh niche]

i wish there wasnt a level cap at lvl 50, i love to track my progress in games :))

[sinful wind]

https://clips.twitch.tv/ZealousCleverNuggetsChocolateRain-8djHCNorFshWQICy

Fix the buggsss ty

[rough vessel]

FCAR dps is 250 its fire rate is 540, also that is not how you calculate ttk

[cloud tree]

game feedback: add like an advanced practice range with running / jumping bots. maybe light dashing etc etc to practice in similar to in game environments

[stoic falcon]

How to catch a hacker

1. Create a dummy player where normal players can't shoot.
2. Hackers attack dummy players.
3. Ban when hackers damage to dummy.
   Used a translator.

[tepid frigate]

ranks should not be shown during competitive matches ( encourages griefing and teaming on diamond/streamers ), and obviously FP should be shown again as a system that shows nothing is confusing for players casual and hardcore. :)

[exotic lagoon]

loot boxes with winnable keys through tournaments would be more than fair imo especially since 1 person out of 16 would get one every tournament which makes them rare but not impossible to get

(if you're not someone who usually spends thousands of $$$ on lootboxes)

yall say you don't want the game to die... loot boxes would allow shitty rich streamers to do massive crate openings and stuff while the average player can get keys through winning tournaments. Idk how anyone would be against a system where you don't have to pay yourself, but this could easily attract big names and new players just with that while embark gets money