👂┇game-feedback

[main pond]

Bro really gutted the class. Holy skill issue.

[quick coyote]

Wait until you see my other suggestions

[opaque oasis]

Battlepass should be 100 tiers, 96 is NOT PERFECT

[soft gorge]

Mouse and keyboard support on consoles and input based matchmaking on the next update, please!

[iron ivy]

fix matchmaking im getting in games with 2 bronze while i am platinum

[quick dew]

the game needs more balancing and better ranked sbmm

[small rune]

bro how do I invite people too my party

[quick coyote]

My ideas to make light more fun to play against;

• Decrease max range on v9 to 10m
• Decrease max range of XP-54 to 15m
• Increase bullet dispersion on M11 by 100%
• lower rof for sniper fire by 25%
• reduce backstab damage on dagger to 210 so mediums have more counterplay
• add cool down to alt attack for sword so it can't be spammed over and over
• reduce damage on breach charge to 25
• decrease range on stun gun to 5M
• decrease stun duration to 0.5s
• increase cool down on glitch grenade by 150%
• increase fuse on glitch grenade by 5s so it takes more skill to use
• increase invis discoloration so it looks more visible, similar to when medium uses recon. Making it easier to track when used
• reduce number of dashes to 1

Overall I think most people would agree these changes would make light class more fun to play against

[lapis pollen]

MGL32, throwing knives and dagger.

These weapons are the weakest and worst weapon in the game.

Please make them viable in rank at least.

[quick dew]

v95 should absolutely not be limited to 10m range what is going on inside your brain

[sudden spire]

It would be nice if I could see how my other teammate died. Their damage history

[lone grove]

REMOVE NUKES REMOVE NBUKES REMOVE NUKES NERF GL

[fervent vortex]

i love how idiots think u are serious lmao

[quick coyote]

That's why it's fun!

[opaque gate]

Hello Mr. Finals the next season should be medieval themed. You’re welcome I take cash or credit no less than $1,000,000 USD 😎

[night dune]

Hope steal the spotlight mode is brought back, in some form. maybe like all sledgehammer or something silly

[fleet hare]

I faced a cheater named MerkyMerk or something who was permanently invisible as a light class

[green zenith]

Thanks for TFGE0015 I can't play the game, lost Fame Points, had a default contestant and literally cannot reconnect to the match. Thanks so much for a broken game that I spend money on that I cannot play.

Fix the game before you think about adding a dumb event update for April Fools, because Embark is laughing their way to the bank to literally cashout. We're the fools for playing this mess of a game.

[thorny latch]

day 29 asking for different queue for solo and party

also moving platform in seoul is so ass

[open nebula]

Have the devs ever considered not using Red/Pink/Purple for the other team colors? Why not Blue/Green/Orange/Purple

[icy anvil]

Wtf

[night dune]

why

[white crater]

My feedback updates (02/19/24). Highlights for emphasis.

Table of Contents:

QOL
Q1 - Show Contracts on Pause
Q2 - Allow Friends to Invite
Q3 - Pending invites tab
Q4 - Friend Status
Q5 - Career Stat: Tourneys Won
Q6 - Separate Ranked & Unranked stats
Q7 - Separate Stats by Class
Q8 - Tourney Summary Screen Tweaks
Q9 - Display Round # on Summary

GEAR
G1 - Light Gadget: Stun Mine
G2 - Light Gadget: Tinted Gas Mask
G3 - Light Weapon: Compound Bow
G4 - Medium Gadget: Javelin
G5 - Medium Gadget: Respawn Beacon
G6 - Medium Gadget: UV Flashlight
G7 - Medium Weapon: Marksman Rifle

MODES
M1 - Mode: Gold Rush
M2 - Mode: Hot Potato
M3 - Mode: Duo Queue
M4 - Modifier: No Healthbars

FEATURES
F1 - Multiplayer Training
F2 - Custom Tourney
F3 - Consumables that Cost VR

BALANCE
B1 - Cashout Station Balance Changes
B2 - Medium GL destructibility
B3 - Medium Mines destructibility
B4 - Riot Shield Buffs
B5 - Staged reload animations
B6 - SA1216's cycling QoL

BUGS
X1 - Sticker Selection Bug
X2 - Dead Communication Wheel

🌐 Google Doc
https://docs.google.com/document/d/13wvf7qTcwX084-x3ECtuYPGS9RnC0RYnneQfF3dyrek/edit

edit: I frankly don't care if yall read my feedback or not, it's for Embark. Y'all clowning on people leaving constructive feedback is cringe lol

[thorny latch]

wtf is UV flashfligt

also no one read all that

[shadow siren]

the game was good

[quick coyote]

Omg because anyone can spot the difference between fuchsia, magenta, rose, burgundy, crimson, salmon, lavender, cerise, orangutan, lavender, plum, Amaranth, tuna lovers, orchid, and telemagenta, and thulian!!! Lmfao total skills
issue 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[open nebula]

The colors are too close. Especially when it's red and pink. Why use colors so close to each other? So many other colors to use. Why use these?

[frail prawn]

Why not letting us to choose the colors btw? not a need but something cool for sure?

@dense dagger You right, my bad

[lone grove]

Exactly! It's difficult to distinguish pink and purple. On the sandy map it's difficult to see orange

[dense dagger]

choose colors option is bad. it's going to be a problem when communicating with your team

[analog vapor]

i think the red and orange teamm color is hard to differentiate sometimes, im not color blind

[rancid kelp]

you know the playerbase is sht when people are complaining about colors lmao

[south jasper]

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[scenic ruin]

Gameplay Suggestion: Be able to slide from sprinting with L. shift and then immediately pressing L. Ctrl, using the same finger.

[torpid shale]

Fix Anti cheat. Its not working. Game plagued with cheaters. Thanks.

[quick coyote]

If the game dies before end of season 1 do we get battle pass refunds?

fix finals ps5 fps drop in heavy destruction

[eager shard]

add match info to friends list and pm system. I have added many people but can never play with them

[tiny mist]

20,000 people playing and i cant find a tournament match fuck me

[opaque oasis]

It ain’t happening 🗣️🗣️🗣️

[shrewd oriole]

I don't think many people acknowledge how strong the APS system is, with it's abilities to clear as many projectiles that's thrown at it without any penalty, and it completely removes weapons like the CL40 and GL from being used, forcing players to opt out for a different weapon. It's only weakness is of course being shot down, yet if a turret or player is nearby this won't be an easy task. It could use some tweaking and I have some ideas.

• The APS hp should be increased by 50%, providing it with better survivability when shot at
• The APS range should increase by 50%-80% allowing it to cover more ground without the need for there to be two mediums running it.
• At the cost of an HP increase the APS turret will take 7% in chip damage per projectile blocked, allowing about 14 projectiles being blocked by the APS in one lifetime, less will be blocked of course if it takes damage from players.
• When being picked up it will only recover a % of its cooldown depending on it's hp, 75% hp = 75% cooldown reduction, this stops it from being infinitely used by being picked up then placed back down.
• Lastly, fix the APS from hitting projectiles through walls. It's obnoxious.

[subtle saddle]

would love to see mirrors edge/ parkour based movement added! either class wide or maybe as a special for L? I think the maps would be absolutely perfect for it. And with 50% of the games objective being: "get from point A to point B fast" i think parkour would fit very nicely. please thank you 🙏

mirrors edge's "momentum" system was awesome and rewarded good pathing and quick thinking. if implemented class wide it would be cool if top speeds, acceleration/momentum buildup, and animation speed was different per class (fast for Light, Slow for Medium, and Slower for heavy) so the classes still feel different from each other but so an experienced heavy can still get around and not feel so stiff! or maybe im trippin idk W or L chat

the skill expression would go crazy with somethin as simple as just moving around the games arena

[quick coyote]

Please add a TEXT system in the game , i want to text and communicate with my teammates who DON'T have a microphone

[cobalt coral]

Day 8 of asking for a real life Nama Tama Tamagochi. (I accidently put twice day 6 LMAFO)

[quick coyote]

you know how many games have come out that have multiplayer modes how in 2024! can we not BALANCE OR FIX THE CHEATING ISSUES like bro on top of that SERVERS suck like cod 4, halo 3, quake came out how many years ago and we still cant figure it the hell out give me a break my god the updates come out and granted you do listen but you fix like 2 things and call it a day battlefield 5 has more players for a reason this game is sooo annoying to play its like a 9-5 job to keep up with nukes, invisibility, heavy the whole class, and sever lag give me a break

[kind swallow]

why cant we flashbang turrets?!?!!?

[sinful gazelle]

"adds text chat but able to turn it off and on like voice chat"

[obsidian grail]

Please work on Cheater hey Dev, it's not funny to face cheaters many times

[stable lagoon]

Then why the fuck are you not playing BFV instead of bitching here?

[quick coyote]

HMMM jeeez its kinda like its a feed back channel and i left my feedback and cuz id like to see this game succeed but it has major problems that should be fixed hence why the low player numbers plus these are ex dice devs hence why i brought up battlefield clearly something is wrong and people are leaving the game, plus thats like "oh why are these negative steam revies bitching on a the review section" listen to how mute of a point that is

[modest sigil]

Glitch Grenade 👍

[sleek flame]

Riot Shield should have a health pool and regenerate after some time or reduce the damage of each bullet by a percentage

[cunning dagger]

Add team chat and input based match making (eg - option to remove L from your matchmaking queue)

[obsidian grail]

Dev doesn't listen complain about cheaters, maybe cheaters are a feature of this game 👏 👏 👏 👏 👏 👏 👏 👏 👏 👏

[celest abyss]

Add gunsmith please

[spare cape]

We need haptic/adaptive trigger support for ps5 ❗️❗️❗️ I needa to added by next season it doesn’t feel like a full ps5 title with out it please add this it’s a huge missed opportunity ❗️would be amazing to feel all the different guns and gadgets it’s a must for a next gen title

[quick coyote]

The skin distrebution is not good at all

(The basic skins that are available for multiple weapons and gadgets have been excluded)

LIGHT CLASS
Dagger | 3 skins
LH1 | 2 skins
M11 | 4 skins
SH1900 | 2 skins (+1 battlepass skin)
SR-84 | 2 skins
Sword | 2 skins
Throwing Knives | 1 skin (+1 battlepass skin)
V9S | 3 skins (+1 battlepass skin)
XP-54 | 3 skins

MEDIUM CLASS
AKM | 8 skins
CL-40 | 1 skin
FCAR | 2 skins
Model 1887 | 2 skins
R .357 | 4 skins (+2 battlepass skins)
Riot Shield | 0 skins 😭

HEAVY CLASS
Flamethrower | 3 skins
Lewis Gun | 0 skins (+1 battlepass skin)
M60 | 4 skins
MGL32 | 3 skins
SA1216 | 3 skins
Sledge Hammer | 3 sklins (+1 battlepass skin)

There is no reason for weapons like the AKM and R .357 to have 8 and 6 skins respectively, but weapons like the Lewis Gun, CL-40 and Riot Shield to have 0-1 skin each.
Especially guns like the FCAR which is widely used yet it is lacking heavily in the skin department compared to something like the AKM.
Please just stop dickriding these few guns and actually take a look at some of your more neglected weapons.

Also please allow us to buy specific items from bundles without having to buy the entire bundle.

Thank you <3

[stable lagoon]

You absolute troglodyte, that's basically few words of "pls fix server n cheating n balance" buried under an entire passage of rant.

That type of negativity is bad for your mental health, you should probably take a break from Finals until the next big update hits. Go play BFV meanwhile, or better yet, touch grass.

[spare cape]

We need haptic trigger support for ps5 ❗️

[quick coyote]

Bro you went out of your way to look at someone's thoughts on a game and decide hey I'm gonna reply and argue about his feed back on a game like bro go outside and touch grass no need to read my comment and get so mad, that type of negativity is bad for your mental health. insulting someone for their views is not something someone with good mental health does plus I fail to see how my points are invalid and why im not allowed to give MY feedback, what makes my feed back toxic in a sense what my writing style or the fact that im not pleased with the game ? I don't understand, do I need to cater to d3u5_vu17s feelings when it comes to my opinion about a subject ? Why are you even on the feedback channel if you don't wanna read other people's feedback that like putting your hand on a hot stove and getting made that it was hot and burned you. If games that came out 10 years ago have fixed these problems I fail to understand how a game from 2023 can't figure it out. I never said I love bfv I compared the number of players clearly there's a reason why people don't play the game anymore but playing an older game is a problem. Again I posted my feedback based on my experience mostly for fun I don't expect the devs to read my feedback remember it's a cooperation they don't care about you or me. But that's the end of my response take it or leave it up to you

[copper schooner]

L

[rain ivy]

.__.

[dark trench]

game is good

[real crow]

It would be cool if we could select the ost for the main menu. I don't mean uploading our own tracks though, I really just miss the steal the spotlight main theme

[frail holly]

I sat trough a bit of what you wrote and as I like the QoL changes you suggested, some things (from a game design perspective) might be bad or not possible to implement.
I don't agree that you shouldn't be penalized for self damage and I like the route Embark went trough by adding a self damage multiplayer(i wish it would go also for all other damage sources like fire & gas actually).

I do think damage atm is kinda unfair if you play light, since everything seems to one shot you, but that could be fixed by adjusting the self heal time or even changing respawn mechanics (giving more coins to light or less time to use coins).

Also I don't have a problem with current game modes so I'll not comment to the last part of the docs, overall it's good but I would focus on fixing theg game first and then adding stuff later 🙂

[frail prawn]

I also have almost 500hrs and I need to say than theres good ideas on this post but... There are a lot more than are nonsense or directly bad

Starting with melee weapons, probably the most balanced weapons on the game, high damage at short distance, if you use Light, then your kills will depend mostly on your skill since you die way faster than you kill, Medium is the only one without instant speed gadgets/skills so the shield helps a lot but even with that, its still the worst of all melee weapon and for Heavy, you get hit with a melee attack from a dude that runs slower than you walk, you cant argue about its damage with a giant hammer

Shotgun random spread sounds good tbh

the RPG high self damage "prevent" the use of the RPG in close combat (mostly, lights) that should stay as it is, adding to this, friendly fire its one of the worst ideas I have ever heard as a feedback for the game, just as you say, there's a lot of explosive weapons, and friendly fire usually ends up in toxic behavior from you own team, like a Heavy shooting to its own Light teammate just because he picked light and that's just the start

Yes, Light HP doesn't get compensated enough, but that could be fixed by just increasing the HP regen speed so it gets heal earlier, having a better role at the shoot and run playstyle than most of the lights use

There are 2 critical points on the feedback that doesn't make sense (along with the friendly fire)

• The classes have "roles" but most of them have the capacity to be at least 2 roles, your post constantly misunderstand heavy as a defensive or a tank and medium with a direct support, Heavy its not a defensive class, its also a destructive class, medium is not support, its also defensive class, so all the point aiming at those "roles" are wrong

• Different damage for each class, if you are gonna do that then just give all the roles the same or similar HP, it doesn't make sense to have different damage scaling for each class.

[vast prism]

Not gonna go into too much yapping but one thing Embark really need to add is the ability to leave the tournament without penalty IF your teammate leaves.

[shrewd hill]

I ask yet again to implement a way to change the opacity or at least change the size for the dynamic UI overlays like deathmarkers for teammates and objectives. I don't know how many times they have obscured enemies for no good reason at all. The opacity decreases when aiming down, but at that point it's too late if you can't spot them before aiming in. Had this happen just yesterday which you can see in the example (only example I've managed to capture on video, and I'm currently on my phone, so cannot get the frame exactly where they were obscured, but you can see how the "full" marker would have obscured both the light and medium)
https://imgur.com/a/kwSuZZ1

Even if the example isn't convincing enough, I cannot see a downside to adding the option either way, it's just a good QoL option that just makes the experience more enjoyable and prevents annoying deaths that aren't your fault because you cannot be expected to constantly be aiming down your sight in case there is someone obscured by them.

[random geyser]

please re-learn light
I do agree with the matchmaking tho

[thorny hill]

Teams should not be spawned literally feet away from the cashout in the final round! the team was so close after wipe that I didnt even get RPG back in time to use it after the fight that wiped them! we had to fight this team 3 times for one cashout? that is toilet water drinking bullshit!

[sinful fog]

A sponsored Progression System suggestion:
Aside from the main progression, tied to the level of your account, there can be another one, based on money you get from every match.
After hitting some levels player will be able to choose one of the sponsors to sign up a special contract to acquire a set of 4-5 limited cosmetics, and to make a progress you will need to farm money instead of XP, maybe $100.000 per level.
After completing one set of rewards player will be able to choose another sponsor, but with every next one the progress will be harder, maybe by adding +$50.000 to every level requirement.
And of course, player will have to start from some basic sponsors, like HOTLOW or Ospuse, but with every set they will have wider choice of sponsors to sign up with.
And of course, this system may somehow make the world of the Game™ wider by giving sponsors more powers than just some mentions on cosmetics and before matches.

[hollow crescent]

There's been many issues with the cash box getting stuck underground where nobody can pick it up

[subtle saddle]

I love this idea

[dull hemlock]

Nuke nerfs continue to miss parts of what makes them frustrating. ** Extremely low skill one shots are not fun to go against.** Part of the issue with them is how explosive minimum damage works, C4 doing 93 damage at max range from the epicenter is extremely silly. You consistently end up with moments where a heavy can just panic chuck a nuke and one shot a light/severely injure a medium/heavy while taking zero damage themselves. This is really, really shitty to go against. Stuff like the clip just feels like you're getting fucked by somebody even just carrying the nuke. I'd even be okay with reverting/buffing some of the changes if C4 wasn't doing so much damage even at its max range.

[lapis pollen]

They will tell you that is a skill issue if you approaching heavy.

But how tf I can do when I use melee?

[oblique olive]

fix anticheat. so many cheaters on casual. straight 7 games with cheaters 🤦‍♂️

[proud eagle]

easy anticheat which is the software they are using is the lowest tier anticheat system. i wont be surprised if easy anticheat team create their own hacks even

[novel hollow]

550 hours and 140 feedback from friends all of you still do not understand how the roles work, now you made the whole report seem unreliable.
This isn't league of legends, stop referring to heavies as their sole purpose of being tanks.
Heavies are meant to be intimidating asf, you play around and a heavy finds you near him, you are dead.
How can you say lights have a smaller dps? Every time I die to a different class I have WAYYY more dmgz but why am i dead, it is because they have more hp.

If you want to nerf heavies and Mediums, the best solution is to make it harder for them to kill lights.
Like you said, randomize the shotgun pellets, rework recon senses but they also need to nerf the hipfire on these long range weapons, the AKM should not be able to burst lights down even when they are stunned.
The reason most lights suck is because they think they can 1v2 enemies and that being a light with smgs and melee weapons must mean you are the slayer, this isn't cod, they need to adjust.

As I play Light I focused mainly on the light sections, and the idea of them being more mobile is the best solution, not damage changes. They should climb ladders faster, jump faster, etc, but also they should be the ONLY class allowed to fit thru vents. But evasive dash and buff grappling even more. You sayin takin dmg shouldnt break the invisibility is actually ridiculous and i cant beleive you even thought that would be a good idea. Invisible rn is perfect.
I think a nice skill for Light would be Ghost, waking thru wall, and being able to climb up or down thru floors, maybe during this state you cant hurt others and others cant hurt you, but they can clearly see you

[bold lantern]

Like you said, randomize the shotgun pellets
Can we not? I'm fine with the spread being larger if you shoot while on the move or hipfiring, but do not fuck about with the pattern itself. Random shotgun patterns make them extremely inconsistent. One shot you're basically firing blanks, the next one you're firing slugs just because RNG happens to be against or in your favour.

[obsidian grail]

Cheat are feature in this game, Dev not hear at all about Cheater

[subtle saddle]

Would love to see Mirror's Edge/parkour based movement added! either class wide or maybe as a special for L? I think the maps would be absolutely perfect for it. And with 50% of the games objective being: "get from point A to point B fast" i think parkour would fit very nicely. please thank you 🙏

Mirror's Edge's "momentum" system was awesome and rewarded good pathing and quick thinking. If implemented class wide it would be cool if top speeds, acceleration/momentum buildup, and animation speed was different per class (fast for Light, Slow for Medium, and Slower for heavy) So the classes still feel different from each other but so an experienced heavy can still get around and not feel so stiff! or maybe im trippin idk W or L chat

The skill expression would go crazy with somethin as simple as just moving around the games arena!

Please thank you love the game! 🙏

[errant flame]

DAY 6️⃣ since nuke death of asking to swap Heavy and Light DPS

Light can kill heavy at least just as well as heavy can kill light thanks to smaller hitbox, better DPS, better speed, better recoil (and maybe thanks to a faster firerate too), which are more than enough to compensate for less HP. With difference being, light can go in and out whenever he wants, but heavy - not really. He is just a big fat slow prey and his shield only makes him even more noticeable and slower. Yeah, heavy has RPG, but it has big CD, can deal up to 252 self damage to himself, can be disabled with stun or glitch and keeps getting nerfed and nerfed. And stun gun...Stun gun can render 2, if not 3 out of 6 heavy weapons useless if the light isn't a complete moron and knows to keep just a bit of distance. Also, while heavy can defend himself with his shield, he can't against sword. And his shield prevents him from shooting and makes him slower. A light wouldn't even need to wear down his own defenses to wear down heavy's.

The situation somewhat changes when heavy has a team, but why does heavy need a team and light doesn't? Why should HEAVY be hunted down by none other than a single light? Why does HEAVY, the HEAVY hitter, the HEAVY artillery, the guy with HEAVY and big guns deals the least amount of damage with his weapons? And even with a team, light's glitch grenades are quite good against heavy and light's DPS and stun gun is quite good at preventing heavy from stealing a cash.

In the meantime, people complain that light isn't very useful in teamplay and ranked. So, maybe swap heavy and light DPS and give light more teamplay, team utility and usefullness. Now, that the nukes, which was the main thing that gave heavy his heavy firepower, are killed, it's about time.
And rework MGL

[earnest ermine]

Mods can we shake this person down for their lunch money

[errant flame]

You are just butthurt. People post here the same stuff for 50 days straight and nothing happens.

[cunning dagger]

Fuck Ls. For gods sake remove these fucking L from random matchmaking. Give us input based matchmaking!!
@gritty ridge you the person with 0kills 11 deaths always asking for revives

[gritty ridge]

ur shit at the game,

[rough acorn]

Unlike them you post some nonsense yapping bro

[errant flame]

Light:
Specs now reduce HP regen delay:
Each sec spent Cloaked reduces the delay by 0.5s
Hook - by 2-3s
Each dash - by 1s
Taking damage resets the delay and reduction.
New spec:
Time machine:
Brings back the user to the current spot after N seconds. All carriables can be brought along.
-TP back can’t be triggered manually
-50 dmg upon TP back. If you survive, restores HP as it was before using the ability minus 50.
-TP back doesn’t work if you haven’t moved at least 20 m
-User glows when ability is active and leaves a trace behind himself revealing recent part of is path
-Doesn’t restore CDs on gadgets or negate DOT ticks
-Timer has a random part to it. E.g. 10s +- 3s

Gadgets:
Added:
Heal grenade. Heals allies for 50-90 HP over 2s, user - for 25-45 HP. Delay before exploding. Heals enemies too for 25-45 HP
-Sonar grenade
-Dart - 2 charges on light. Successful shot increases the damage by 10%
Reworked:
-Night vision
-Motion sensor and Glitch radius increase
-Extra frag grenade
-Stun – 2 charges, each lasts for 2s. Target can ADS.

Weapon nerfs:
-Sword
DMG reduced to 66
Swing rate reduced a little
5-6 swings as ammo/charges after which it gets a short pause.
-M11 – DPS 190-200
-XP-54/V9S – DPS 180-190
-SH1900 – DMG – 135
-Knives – DMG – 90

Medium:
-Healing beams can’t be stacked. Heal rate is slightly nerfed
-Defib i-frames slightly nerfed
-Defib has a short CD after getting revived

Heavy:
Gadgets:
-Bring back old damage and radius on RPG and C4
-C4 is thrown and detonated faster
-Dome shield deployed faster and its old HP is restored

-Shield HP reduced to 800.

Weapons:
Lewis Gun - 230 DPS
M60 – 240 DPS
FT– overall DPS increased by 30-50%
SA1216 – each shard deals 9 dmg. Firerate is 80-85% of current one. DPS increase: 2.8%-9.3%
MGL32:

1. Grenades explode on contact, but heavier. This will both keep the weapon more unwieldy with increasing distance and positioning on higher ground desirable
2. Reload & self-damage slightly increased. Demolition in 6 shots

[gritty ridge]

go play roblox

[earnest ermine]

Mods can we have this poindexter shoved into a locker

[errant flame]

Another butthurt buffoon.

[rough acorn]

Yes buddy I’m the buffoon when u legit getting shit on and clowned on every time u do your yapping session imagine writing a novel just to get booed on keep the grind one day another monkey will agree with what you’re saying

[foggy turtle]

I understand the need for a tournament leave penalty, but i find it kinda dumb that i can have my game crash, reconnect, help my team capture the final cashout and barely make it to the final match, and the get kicked from the game and given a penalty and leaving my team down a man in the final round.

[subtle oak]

Dome shields are disappearing right after deployment? Already had a few moments where I throw it, and its just gone? Fell through the floor into nowhere? Needs to be fixed!

[errant flame]

You are indeed if you apply double standards.

[subtle saddle]

Would love to see Mirror's Edge/parkour based movement added! either class wide or maybe as a special for L? I think the maps would be absolutely perfect for it. And with 50% of the games objective being: "get from point A to point B fast" i think parkour would fit very nicely. please thank you 🙏

Mirror's Edge's "momentum" system was awesome and rewarded good pathing and quick thinking. If implemented class wide it would be cool if top speeds, acceleration/momentum buildup, and animation speed was different per class (fast for Light, Slow for Medium, and Slower for heavy) So the classes still feel different from each other but so an experienced heavy can still get around and not feel so stiff! or maybe im trippin idk W or L chat

The skill expression would go crazy with somethin as simple as just moving around the games arena!

Please thank you love the game! 🙏

[rough acorn]

Bro just be saying random shit right now double standard LMAO

[sly estuary]

Ranked points exploit still works https://youtu.be/kXHVsRgKkok?si=4Ax9L_nrlv6Ixr6h

[queen cloud]

there is no way this guy is real.
There should be a requirements to post here.
1st - Be good at fps games
2nd - Have x amount of hours players
3rd - Be at least better than average at the game. Over 1kd minimum requirement.

It's feedback like this that ruins games. And feedback like this can only come from people that are bad at the game.

[shrewd vine]

This post basically sums up the entire nuke problem succinctly. One shots in games suck and at this point I feel like they are trying to keep it in while giving players the illusion of change just so they don't have to go and change some of the steam achievements for killing people with explosives on throwables lmao.

[rocky pewter]

I wish icon size of cashout or ping icon or its transparency changed because sometimes its really hard to see whats happenening there

[thorn arch]

"Dagger: 50 damage (320 per Right Click. One dagger does more than TWO RPG-7, WTF!?)" You've never used the dagger have you? Ofc you get rewarded with a one shot for managing to stab someone in the back with a butter knife, an rpg is ranged and has aoe lmao

[quartz shell]

Hi, idk if there is a bug report channel, when pressing f11 to change to window mode, and then press again f11 to change to fullscreen mode, you cant see any UI in the game, only the render

[queen shale]

agree

[smoky gust]

what if we turn nukes around 180°?
make nukes move in a 100% straight line (until they hit something) but at a snails pace

you cant kill someone half a mile away in 1 second anymore
instead its a very slow moving bubble of death that's easy to avoid but forces enemies to move out of the way and acts as area denial

that way nukes will only eliminate players that didn't see or hear the nuke approach it in the 10 seconds it took to fly towards them or failed to move out of the way while in an open fight

but we would also need to change something about the close range one-shots, since decreased speed doesn't matter when they're in your face
perhaps make the c4 only charge up once its thrown, so that you have about 2 seconds to move away?

[thorn arch]

Lmao it would be very funny to see people line up 20 nukes and to see them slowly glide across the map to the objective haha

[smoky gust]

part of the idea, comically slowly approaching death

@errant flame @hollow badger if you think its a bad idea then id love to know why, perhaps we can think of a solution together

[lone plinth]

As a Heavy main I think the Mesh Shield is a bit too strong as it is today.

• easy to activate and deactivate without penalty
• you can hold it virtually forever until it's destroyed
• very wide, you can fit your whole team and then some
• 1000 HP compared to its' little brother the Dome Shield (300 HP)
  How I would change it ⬇️
• Less wide, maybe the size of 2 Barricade (gadget)
• Slowly drains itself while in use, so you can't hold it forever
• Add a small delay between activation and deactivation, to prevent spamming

[errant flame]

It'd be even more useless than it is now and even way worse than mine nukes were pre 1.8 and post 1.8 (basically unusable)

[rough acorn]

Good point

[thorn arch]

offense is the best defense over here defending all the things that make heavy braindead easy, i wonder why lmao

[hollow badger]

I dont have time

[proud eagle]

how about having the lobby permission to invite for every player and not restrict to just the lobby leader.

[queen cloud]

the thing is, devs must also listen to these low IQ players. If they don't have their crutches they'll leave the game. Bad/below average players with no brain are needed to keep the game alive

A game should always be balanced around the top 5%/comp play. But they also need to keep the average timmy happy soo they buy skins and don't leave the game

[lavish shard]

Buff light

[smoky gust]

@errant flame
nukes are far from useless right now and still being complained about frequently
mine nukes were unusable because they flew off to the side when thrown

if you think nukes need to be able to get kills to be useful then I guess it makes sense that you don't like this suggested change
but a lot of us don't like to be one-shot and my proposed change should limit this while making it useable for other purposes

[queen rover]

This game is dead by end of year

[bold lantern]

My man can you maybe not repost that same thing multiple times every bloody day? If you got something to say say it, if you want to add to it add to it, but don't repost the same thing again and again crying for attention. It's getting rather tiresome how some people are trying to drown out the convo by reposting the same thing again and again.

[thorn arch]

Not only that, i read through some it and a lot of it is just opinions and " this us bad for the game... why? because i said it is" lol

[loud night]

still feels like you're handicapping yourself by picking light unless you are appreciably better than your opponents, enemy can kill you as quick or quicker than you can kill them if they have any time to react to you at all so why even pick light? players who like movement are keeping the class alive

[red escarp]

is there any way to 1 v 1 ?

[radiant heath]

Can we have a slingshot for light players ? 😄

[smoky gust]

the mega-damage event doesn't feel impactful enough imo

maybe let players quick melee a wall to destroy it, so that it opens up a few more strategic options?

[tawdry pasture]

Make a rank above Diamond

[zealous schooner]

i have some super rare achievements on xbox, but for some reason the game refuses to give me initial deposit, after 70+ hours

[frigid juniper]

I think the game could use some more AA options, namely TSR instead of TAAU and FSR native. The game could also use a sharpening slider as currently it's not in the right place imo

[dull vapor]

the damage makes no sense in this game

[pseudo hollow]

Can you please add a sound to the invite notification?

[pure glen]

if you could add a fiture where the amount of time you had a cash for the more money you get so if you claim the cash for half the time you will get half of what it is worth(to add that if you claim it and it runs out you get a times two of how much you would of got it anyway so if you had the cash for half its time and you claim it until it finished your half amount of time with the cahs is double so you get double money).Another fiture is that when you team is wiped instead your team lossing 30 percent you could add where the team that killed the last person of that team will get 30 percent of what the team they killed had.

[loud night]

add leaver forgiveness in ranked NOW, it's incomprehensible that nothing has been done about this yet in a game built around its competitive mode. UNACCEPTABLE. please and thank you.

[obtuse wedge]

• match making base on rank instead of KD or whatever it’s atm
• custom lobby so we can play with our friends, also some organization can run some tournaments so to rises some pop for the game

[ebon vine]

Please please please make ranked actual ranked not just pubs with rewards i feel like its so dumb that this is something players have to beg you for and any other game on the market that launched with a ranked system finds you opponents and teammates that are at least somewhat close to your rank, what is the point of hitting diamond if i can still get bronze teammates and players in my games, you are killing your game with this and all of my friends quit this game cause of this reason. Please make ranked actually ranked for season 2 🙏

[shadow gyro]

needs beards

[quick coyote]

No way matchmakings based on rank. Me and my duo are bronze yet we're randomly in gold lobbies, to be fair the gold in question was a lobotomy patient, but they were indeed gold.

Edit: thought you were saying it currently is based off rank, mb.

[thorny parcel]

Some of these ideas are really terrible. Melee weapons being removed would make me quit the game entirely.
Just let them have lockon plus sprint while attacking so getting in range means they can finish kills without needing one shots.
Melee weapons are either super utility weapons with damage as a bonus or high damage shotgun like weapons that have a more extreme range disadvantage. Not that complicated.

Lights should just have an explosion resistance multiplier that lessens the amount of damage explosions do to them.

[dense fjord]

make ranks actually mean something as well lol

[dim steeple]

Please add a teamchat

[uneven sable]

Anyone else experiencing game crashes in between rounds?

[velvet steppe]

As someone who played this game daily since release, solo q to diamond and 209 hours i can say the way to kill this game is keep nerfing stuff and release new cosmetics every week thats the way to kill a game within first half year.

You wanna keep the game alive? Fine! Fix the ranked so it actually has meaning. Also fix leaving ranked punishment. Also fix so you can queue up with roles

[vernal warren]

are the wings from the battlepass counted as a hitbox?

[scenic knoll]

Bigger cosmetics do not increase your hitbox

[hard badger]

my event challenge says damage 6 opponents while sliding, but I already did that like 10.000 times, but still says 1 of 6 °° ... Is it bugged for someone else to?

[hidden ferry]

but they clip through thin walls like containers, so you can see someone hiding in there 👀

[normal ferry]

Please stop posting this. It's literally just full of opinions and none of it seems to have real justifications it's just how you feel.

[sour bane]

how much adderall did you take to write 54 pages of this

[normal fable]

There is a lot of legitimate problems that haven't been fixed yet tho that idk y they aren't is it a small dev team? example: VVV below comment

[quick coyote]

I guess it's been talked about enough, but I don't know why I keep playing with unranked bronze-ranked teammates. Sometimes I get lucky and play with people with silver or even my rank (rarest of all), is it because there are so few people playing anymore or is it just that there is a shitty system for competitive championships?

If only there was a better invite and knowledge of your friends, if they are playing and how much is left, you get the group request for later, or something that isn't just continually trying your luck, at least then we could play with people we know who play knowledgeably.

[fathom gale]

B O A T

[teal grove]

add ball to lewis gun roulette skin thanks!

[uneven rampart]

unneccesary but would be neat

[near lagoon]

It's very neccesary

[fallow dock]

I encounter more and more cheaters in the games, the GOLD games are completely full. Before it was 1 game out of 10, today we are more like 7 games out of 10
I love this game, unfortunately its free side penalizes it greatly in the end. In addition, the game search takes up to 6-8 minutes to find a ranked one. Too bad the game is already starting to fade.
Is a solution against cheaters planned?

[hearty hound]

its basically ded

[uneven chasm]

They should add where you can have the party in practice range so you can 1v1 and practice against real players and just have fun with friends

[lunar fossil]

I'd like to be able to mute a single person in voice chat. Sometimes you've got 1 toxic player on your squad or maybe he's got a ton of background noise, currently the only option appears to be to disable chat which isn't what I want to do. I want to be able to give feedback to both players but mute a single person(or even both in some rare cases).

[dark mauve]

lights need a damage buffer, Maybe a shield for 50-75 hp, regens after 3s after taking no damage

[jade saddle]

matchmaking maybe atleast match your random teammates with 1 rank lower atleast and not all divisions - kinda sad as Diamond Player to be matched with Bronzeplayers as Enemys AND even more Teamamtes

[fathom gale]

B O A T

[sick marten]

If anybody at embark is reading this the launch bug where the game gets to the EAC screen then closes with no message is back with 1.6.0. It was fixed with 1.5.5, then returned with 1.6.0. The hotfix, 1.6.1, and 1.8 patch also did not fix it. I have tried the following:

Restarting my computer

Re-installing the game

Re-installing EAC

Verifying the files

Killing every non essential process and program in task manager

Any help resolving this issue is greatly appreciated.

pls fix I just wanna finish the battle pass I paid for ;-;

[thin umbra]

ADD IN DOLPHIN DIVING 🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️

[median hollow]

Make health regen times based on class

Light has a faster health regen time

Medium has a normal health regen time

Heavy has a slower health regen time

Would allow lights to better fulfill their “get in, get out” role as they can do it more often

Would force heavies to need to play with the team and healers to be the most effective

[white crater]

You really need to work on distilling your thoughts into smaller more digestible pieces. If you want to effectively convey information, you need yo try to do it in the least amount of words possible. When people see a wall of text and they genuinely attempt to read it, if they read 50 words and deem them a waste of time, they won't read the other 1,000 you may have wrote. I highly suggest you go back and trim 99% of this, as it is mostly word vomit.

[lavish shard]

P = light
Light too much playing in quick play dont need buff just a stim

[tame totem]

Start of the game. Nobody judge him

[ebon peak]

WBU?

[sour bane]

This is a really good suggestion. Doesn't make sense that classes with more health regen at a same percentage rate as a class with less health, and procs at the same time

Especially when Light, when even taking a bit of damage, is out of the fight instantly because of their low health pool

For an assassin class, we are sure waiting for health to regenerate quite a bit

The plus to this idea is that it doesn't make Light 'overpowered' in casual (which is where most Light complaints come from). It just gets them back in the fight faster in casual AND ranked.

[dark mauve]

This is essentially what I was saying with my last post, i think mediums are fine, heavies the same, lights just need some surv/util

[white crater]

So I wanted to highlight one of my suggestions to buff the Light class without reposting the whole Table of Contents.

G2 - Light Gadget: Tinted Gas Mask
An equipable mask that slightly obscures vision with a UI overlay, but protects from Flashbangs, Gas damage, and prevents coughing. This would lean into Lights making risky plays, being able to mask up in a gas cloud and steal a cashout, or use a gas grenade and fight within it. Additionally this could boost the usage of flash grenades which are not frequently used by either the Medium or the Light. This could also boost the usage of Pyro Mines and Pyro Grenades.

🌐 Feedback Master Doc
https://docs.google.com/document/d/13wvf7qTcwX084-x3ECtuYPGS9RnC0RYnneQfF3dyrek/edit

[tepid shard]

what cheating are you seeing?

[slate latch]

honestly the only complaint i got as solo player is i would like to see way to avoid a class team-mate who likes to do light class. i know i can just find people to play with but no matter how many times i do solo or just want to play normally without any communication is just so tiring.

always feels like i am being punished for having L class in my team

including how L class is not even casual class and it feels like no matter how good you are you're never present with the team. always just killing time rather actually doing objective. 150 hp and then straight down to drain as soon as they get hit by any single mines or shot taken. just feels more of like rat class than anything

[frosty mountain]

i want to say that sounds to op with invis but playing it out in my mind you'll still inta die before the gas can kill them + with the flamethrower googun meta it would be a useless gadget

[clever charm]

#nerfnuke - last nerf didn't do jack crud. 2x C4 on red can/gas stack should be removed

[sly crystal]

Why doesn't my teammate join the group when I reconnect? Although it was thrown out due to some mistake

[pulsar slate]

in same boat, thanks for summing up - can't get past loading screen either.

[brittle cargo]

I think we should take a look at the riot shields usefulness and figure a way to make it a more team oriented weapon and allow it to be used more effectively.

[sick marten]

been like this for weeks now and they haven't done anything. whats bothers me most is that they know how to fix it since they did it before so it just feels like they're ignoring us

[shrewd egret]

.First of all, the nuke still a problem, the dommage still too huge in a fight and still be a fight changer.
that's still one shot 2 medium in a fight and its still very unbalanced, NEED NERF next patch !
The C4 need big nerf, The C4 can't one shot , that's break the skills of the fight

.The Heavy shotgun need a little bit too strong and need a little nerf of dmg and range dmg

.RPG need a little nerf of dmg

.The animation of the Hammer is sometimes weird, when the heavy charge his attack, we got hit before the animation down

.Some spawns next to a Bank are too impossible to survive, after 624,8 Hours of The Finals, i have noticed few spawns, that are very hard too survive and are unbalanced in Seoul, Monaco and Stadium Celest , you need to make sure that the respawn need to be safe, i dont know how to say excatly where but if you check all the retake spawns some of them are very open field and free views for the defenders to laser instantly when the attackers spawns

.The audio steps need to be upgrade, the audio of the gadget need to be little higher

.the loading betweens games have some issues, we still watching the POV of the game that we did before the next game and a weird black filter on the bracket screen

.The crane can be conduct wherever you are on it and its only be conduct to the left

The Esport of the game need to be very develloped ! add custom more rank (Master, grand master, Chanllenger) and a league !

Thanks for read, this is very important and serious objective feed back for a good future of the game
Sorry for my english

[thorn arch]

Doubt they care, they're prob making new skins atm

[errant flame]

What an asinine take. This will make lights even more overpowered and annoying, ESPECIALLY in casual.
And yeah, somehow, light having the most DPS on his weapons makes sense, but equal regeneration doesn't? Light's top DPS already defies logic, balance and purposes and devalues difference in HP to a decent degree, with a superior HP regeneration, it will make HP difference even more obsolete.
Light should never get a better HP regen unless his DPS becomes the least out of the 3 classes. Then he'll succesfully become the "hit'n'run" class as per description, not an assassin or let alone a brawler many people somehow envision its purpose to be.
@violet elbow If you die to light, it's a DPS, hitbox, speed, maneuvrability, recoil and specializations that provide both defense and offense issue.
Light shouldn't ever fight heavy 1 on 1 on equal ground, let alone kill it in close quarters. Only other heavies and sometimes mediums should.
@violet elbow So, you think light vs any other class should be totally viable and should be a skill issue? Yeah, can't agree with that. It defeats logic, roles and the value of engaging capability.
And I don't mind if in exchange for reduced DPS, light'd get additional team utility or if heavy gets his team utility cut.

[violet elbow]

Light Guns have high dps but they quite literally still get out*ttkd by most heavy and medium guns due to the health difference, if you die to lights its literally just a skill issue

@errant flame yeah so bad tracking on your part and awful recoil control, so a skill issue, you have bad mechanics and died to someone with better mechanics, kinda how games work

also its asinine to say "Heavy should be unbeatable in a 1v1 by other classes" when its already the best teamfight class, you are delusional if you think thats balanced, that is literally what is killing the light class cuz its useless outside glitch nades

[pulsar slate]

AC crashes on launch
Please contact us and provide the logs from %appdata%\EasyAntiCheat\b5adc328432e4883a396eba3d9c05133\1da1371cee914a6b84a466d506a6e6d9 . anticheatlauncher.log and loader.log

Did that on their website -and I'm sure they're overloaded with them. at least its active since Jan 18th without a change.

[fallow plank]

👆

[sick marten]

bro we can't even buy the new skins ;-; would've copped the football set for the thigh highs but NUH UH, can't even open the game, not even finish the battlepass I paid for. I want my money back Embark!!!!!!

[paper stream]

So since nukes are nerfed. What's next on the agenda?

[fervent vortex]

Actual brainrot, this man embodies being clueless yet still talking the loudest

[quick coyote]

Which light hurt this man so bad he does nothing but complain about the worst class in the game?

[subtle saddle]

Would love to see Mirror's Edge/parkour based movement added! either class wide or maybe as a special for L? I think the maps would be absolutely perfect for it. And with 50% of the games objective being: "get from point A to point B fast" i think parkour would fit very nicely. please thank you 🙏

Mirror's Edge's "momentum" system was awesome and rewarded good pathing and quick thinking. If implemented class wide it would be cool if top speeds, acceleration/momentum buildup, and animation speed was different per class (fast for Light, Slow for Medium, and Slower for heavy) So the classes still feel different from each other but so an experienced heavy can still get around and not feel so stiff! or maybe im trippin idk W or L chat

The skill expression would go crazy with somethin as simple as just moving around the games arena!

Please thank you love the game! 🙏

[worn plover]

nerf light

[nocturne igloo]

nukes nerf is terrible. doesn't make it balanced (can still OS) but annoying to use, and restricting the possibilities (lower skill expression)
An appropriate nerf imo would be nerfing the C4 damage when stuck on an object.
Also, stun gun is way too overpowered, mandatory on every light build, should get reworked or removed. Heavy's ttk is too low. Nerf healing beam. Nerf turrets health.

[jagged cedar]

Hopefully nukes again

[errant flame]

They have highest DPS, but light's hitbox, evasiveness/maneuvrability, speed, better offensive abilities that allow to shoot and reload more than negate the difference in HP. And another important thing - his capacitiy to engage/disengage and pick out his victims. If he can easily move around the map, easily come and go, he should only be true to his description which says "hit'n'run", not "kill'n'run". Not to mention the lightest weapon shouldn't have the most DPS. This isn't a case where his lightness would allow him to strike faster, so any "rogue" or any similar logic doesn't apply to him.
@violet elbow Abilities = specialization.
So, you basically deny the advantage of better hitbox, speed and evasiveness? I guess they should give the light the hitbox and speed of heavy and we'll see how you'll talk.
@brave copper The logic behind rogues having good DPS are the following:

1. Crits - this game has headshots, so no special "crit logic" for light.
2. Rogue wears lighter armor - attacks faster. Light in this game moves faster. And his DPS doesn't depend on his weight, only on weapons.
3. Rogue wields lighter weapons - can attack faster. Light's physical attack speed doesn't matter in this game, only weapon itself.
4. Rogue levels DEX - doesn't matter in this game, only the weapon itself.
5. Rogue backstabs - there is a dagger and that's where light's damage should be.
   As for his weapons themselves, each bullet does deal less damage and the weapons have high firerate, but there is literally no reason for why these peashooters should DPS more than assault rifles or machine guns.

[violet elbow]

your arguments are literally just "i cant track a fast moving enemy" despite there being an immense ttk advantage for other classes.
also Light DOES NOT HAVE the best offensive abilities, thats clearly heavy, because c4 and rpg exist, which are the most busted 2 pieces of util other than defib there are rn
if we wanna argue whether or not invis or recon are better offensive abilities considering the entire class kit around them then so be it ig..?

invis that you can loudly hear vs wallhacks

bro is literally just waffling and coping

@errant flame now I just dont have awful tracking because im good at first person shooters lmao

[brave copper]

Rogue logic doesn't apply- yet light can turn invisible and back stab people lol

[sick marten]

the backstab doesn't even work half the time lmao

[paper stream]

Sure. Lets just remove everything except weapons! I'm for it. Buff lewis as well 🙂

[thorn arch]

you should stop wasting your time talking to this dude, he's either very young or is just a troll. No fully functioning adult would type the stuff he does lol.

[strong escarp]

the nerf did nothing to stop close-range one-shot ambushes that are impossible to react to. it's cheesy as hell and needs another pass.

[queen cloud]

Imagine an lmg with a million bullets having more dps than an AR. Let alone an SMG that's meant for close range..

If you also take heavy's HP lewis / M60 have no business having more dps than an akm ...

You're clueless sounds like u never played an fps game in your life.

[severe rune]

when will they start to buff stuff instead of nerf stuff
good riddance for nuke btw

[timid kiln]

ADD PRONE MODE AS MOVEMENT

[jagged cedar]

"Enghhhhh I'm nothing without my crutchhhhh"

@severe rune tbh this game needs more nerfs than buffs. The ideal golden standard of balance is the ak. Weapons should be balanced around it

[exotic wave]

Free for all mode permanently would be great. It doesn't even need to have ranked attached to it. Just a mode where people can engage in solo play.

[sour bane]

i ask this in the nicest way possible -- are you stupid?

[stray osprey]

light should have some more support based gadgets so the class can provide more consistent value to a team
i was thinking possibly healing grenades that recover 50-100hp or an ammo pack that can be thrown at a teammate and it replenishes cooldowns on their gadgets, this would only be used once before a 1.5 minute cooldown
idk lol hair

[wraith topaz]

fix this dam game, so many cheaters everywhere

[errant flame]

I'm not, but reading stupid stuff like yours can make me feel like it.

[median hollow]

Almost any light player would lose in just a plain shoot out, their DPS increase is not nearly even close to high enough to offset their health

As such, they need to pretty much run and take cover whenever they are targeted

This would allow them to get back into fights faster instead of just running away/hiding the whole time

This would not be annoying to fight against as they would’ve healed anyways, it’s just now there is less sitting and waiting for them to poke their head out, or going on a wild goose chase to find them, you can still kill them with just 4-6 well placed bullets with most weapons

I cant help your aim if your entire team is simply unable to hit 4 FCAR shots

[queen cloud]

I agree. Akm is a well balanced gun.
Light smgs should be higher dps and they are in a good spot as is. M11 shorter range / less bullets and more dps than more versatile xp54.

Fcar almost half bullets compared to akm +20% more dps also makes sense and it's balanced.

What doesn't make sense is heavy's lmgs.
They have more bullets than akm, lewis has same effective range as akm with a little better dps while having the biggest health pool in the game and access to secondary insta 140dmg weapon.
Can literally wipe a squad without reloading, don't need to worry about missing and does more DMG with more health...

[vale tendon]

GUNS IDEA
I have an idea for the game, since we already bought everything in the weapons store and the vrs is no longer useful, I propose an idea to spend the vrs on xp for the weapons, that is, unlock weapon skins with the vrs since the vrs in a future will stop being useful since we bought everything, in fact I already have everything and the vrs is of no use to me, so I propose that the vrs can be spent on weapon xp and also an idea of ​​adding a new weapon, a crossbow for the character with agility with great damage, the crossbow takes a long time to reload, and a simple bow for the medium one that shoots arrows with a normal speed and takes damage depending on how long I left it stretching the arrow, it will do more damage, for the big guy a new rocket but it is a cannon and it takes too long to reload but it makes everything explode and it can make holes in buildings or houses

[amber sage]

If this isn’t in the shop when it updates soon I will commit unspeakable crimes

[errant flame]

Yeah no, light has a better hitbox, speed and recoil too which together with DPS is more than enough. If you die in a gunfight as light to other classes, you probably stand in the same place the whole time.
And imagine that such class can already come and go whenever he want and whenever is the most suitable and convenient for it.
Now imagine that on top of that, this class picks you out and either kills you or retreats, leaving you with low HP and then comes back with full HP in a few seconds to finish you off without any punishment for a failed killing attempt.

[median hollow]

The DPS increase is literally in the tens, the hitbox really does not make any significant difference to anyone with decent aim, especially when they can kill lights faster with body shots than lights can kill them with headshots, same for recoil where if you are missing every shot because “recoil is too much”, I’m sorry but that is an issue of skill

If you are being left at low HP, the light SHOULD be able to heal and kill you, that’s your fault for being separated from your team when a light, who knows how to utilize covers, comes by

[thorn arch]

"My aim is trash pls nerf light"

[queen cloud]

It's not only lights. It's every class.
Medium hitbox is not much different from heavy. Yet heavy has a lot faster ttk vs medium. Than medium has vs heavy.
While having a lot easier to use guns that allow them to just spray and pray, whiff most shots and still get the kill.

There is a reason double heavy is banned in screams. Everyone knows it's the strongest class in the game.

[warm marsh]

i know why the game dies, the devs do nothing about heavy but nerfing everything else

[icy anvil]

gib me lazergun

[granite topaz]

https://tenor.com/view/the-riddler-show-time-gotham-gif-15314629

[spark girder]

The AK is a horrible gold standard as it has literally the exact same issues and awful effect on the meta as the Fcar and Lewis, it just ranks #3.

It makes zero sense for general purpose guns that win fights easily at all ranges to be called balanced when other weapons struggle to beat said guns in their ideal much narrower range.

If the game was truly balanced, guns like the fcar, AK, and Lewis would have a range where they are near worthless like 90% of the other weapons.

[severe wave]

Lets go finnaly some people here with common sense. NERF HEAVY

[amber sage]

why do yall come in here to argue when there’s a long ass slowdown
“yeah imma rebuke that argument in 15 minutes”

[short fractal]

They need to add more AK Skins 🤡

[errant flame]

M11 - 267 DPS. XP-54/V9S - 255 DPS. Lewis Gun - 200 DPS.
Denying the importance and impact of all these factors is just cope.
So, A HEAVY needs a team in order to survive a LIGHT but light doesn't need a team at all? Hypocrite light mains in a nutshell.
@thorn arch "I don't need an aim against heavy since my weapons are ultra accurate and heavy is slow and has a giant hitbox"
@queen cloud Medium has the same DPS on AKM, but better hitbox, speed and recoil.
Has more DPS and even better recoil on FCAR on top of everything else.

[umbral lotus]

The game is shit and dying? We NeEd MoRe Ak SkInS Lets gooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

[rancid kelp]

people were complaining about colors last night thats hows u know playerbase is dead just noobs left

[tawdry pasture]

Bro embark, add a new rank above diamond there is no point to play if evrybody is Diamond

[queen cloud]

lewis ttk vs light = 0.62s
lewis ttk vs meidum = 1.13s
xp54 ttk vs heavy = 1.26s....
akm vs heavy = 1.7s.

Lewis has more range and bullets than xp54. lewis has more bullets than akm.

Average reaction time is like 0.15-0.2s.... You can also hear the light coming if you have half decent awarness because invis it's LOUD

[median hollow]

All you have done is further prove my point:
Heavy killing light time with meta: 0.75 seconds
Light killing heavy time with meta (hitting the entire mag): 1.4 seconds
(These numbers are based off yours and are not even entirely accurate)

With this change in place, if you die to a light, you will still die to a light (and you REALLY need to work on your aim if you died to them 1 on 1)

If you kill lights, you will still kill lights (which most people can reliably do, hence why lights are rarely seen in ranked other than cheaters)

If the light is ducking in-and-out of cover, which now prolongs the fight until the heavier class eventually wins due to the health difference (also they will heal more as more max HP and more time healing), even if the heavier class is standing in the open (which you seem to be defending that strategy), they will win

This makes it so if the light plays smart and uses cover, the heavier class will actually eventually loose if all they do is stand in the open by themselves

If the light is better, they should be able to win

[storm siren]

Is finals still alive?

[stoic zinc]

I really wish that we can get like some sort of ranked coins to be able to buy whatever diamond skin we want to, it`s not that interesting to farm ranked for the gun that I just wont use. The perfect example of that is overwatch

[wraith topaz]

no, until they fix all the f ing hackers

[thorn arch]

For a while at least, how long will depend on if they just add a bunch of skins in the next update/season or if they start fixing the huge amount of broken and unbalanced stuff

[sharp kraken]

We need a in game suggestion box rather than rely on the unorganized discord feedback channel…Please add ASAP. On top of that, you can make it so that keywords are counted throughout the suggestions to make it easy for you devs and see what people are complaining about most

[foggy orbit]

Please either buff the riot shield or remove it, nobody wants a riot shielder on their team, they do NOTHING in the fight because of how garbage and limiting it is.

[mental blaze]

Bit of a nitpick but I find it very annoying that the Battle Pass page starts you off on the first level instead of where you're currently at.

[lavish shard]

Nerf light too ?
P=light where is the nuke where is the heavy where is recon 🤣🤣 ranked is not only the finals
Kakadumescouille fragile light

[karmic niche]

buff light

[icy anvil]

lel

[shrewd vine]

I get the frustration, I dislike playing triple Lights in quickplay too, but I feel like its frankly partly because Light players don't have an outlet to be competitive unless they want to basically throw their teammates games in most cases, since their class is not conducive to teamplay. They are annoying, but even if you are playing against a good Light, you just have to stay with your team and they can't really do anything. 150 hp might be enough to get a stun and kill, but you'll also trade your life for it most of the time.

To add on to this, I dislike class stacking in general tbh. Whether its Light, Medium or Heavy, its all unfun to play against. It feels like chasing air when against 3 lights, and kills are highly dissatisfying. Mediums just defib chain with impunity and heal each other, and shooting heavy shields for literally dozens of seconds just to have the chance to do damage is brain-rot gameplay.

[queen cloud]

i'd rather see a heavy nerf than a light buff.
I'm scared of a light buff from embark. God knows what they might do...

[errant flame]

Lewis vs Light TTK - 0.75
XP/V9 vs Heavy TTK - 1,37
M11 vs Heavy TTK - 1.31
The DPS alone brings the +133% difference in HP to +74-83% difference. Now factor in the difference in hitbox, speed and recoil and it'll will be more than enough to beat those 74-83% heavy has on light in TTK.

[lavish shard]

Ranked = heavy medium
Quik play = light
How dev balanced ranked and qp ? Maybe split nerf/buff to ranked qp ?

[brave copper]

The team colors are all versions of red. It's actually dogshit for accessibility, and the colorblind options make contrast against the yellow backgrounds fucked.

[glacial knot]

Light is dog shit for ranked 😅😂

[sharp kraken]

We need a in game suggestion box rather than rely on the unorganized discord feedback channel…Please add ASAP. On top of that, you can make it so that keywords are counted throughout the suggestions to make it easy for you devs and see what people are complaining about most

[charred shard]

Someone clipped the cash box under the map and won

[timid kiln]

or just a suggestion/game feedback channel built like the bug reports thread

[thorn arch]

Ofc there's alot of lights in casual qp?? its the only place where they're sort of viable. you dont honestly think they should balance the game around a mode where it doesn't matter whether you win or not? right?

[icy anvil]

let dome shield be picked up

[lavish shard]

I agree with you the light needs a buff but only for ranked in quick play light its strong playing against 10 invisible stungun it's really not fun

[night dune]

by teammate ?

[sharp kraken]

We need a in game suggestion box rather than rely on the unorganized discord feedback channel…Please add ASAP. On top of that, you can make it so that keywords are counted throughout the suggestions to make it easy for you devs and see what people are complaining about most

[molten trail]

nerf defib

[quick coyote]

https://imgur.com/a/Ga4tmWG casual so fun 👍🏻

[chrome merlin]

Let me turn off aim assist on dagger PLEASE. The whole dagger community has been asking for it and its really not difficult

[lapis crystal]

I guess 1 clip is not enough to kill a heavy and a medium for every gun he has, let's make it so he can team wipe with 1 clip or even half. TTK also should be 0.5 seconds, not 0.96 seconds

[wooden hedge]

Will there ever be custom games available?

[thorn arch]

And fix the animation not working on backstab 33% of the time

[warm ledge]

Will there be a nerf for defibs? Make the cooldown longer or make them revive on less hp. It feels like it doesnt matter how many people i kill when they have 2 lives

[unique steeple]

We should be able to close doors while tased

[small wave]

a cool nerf would be if when you did it, it would put them into a so-and-so revive animation, and you could shoot them to kill them again while in the revive. no matter how many nerfs to health and cooldown, its still gonna be op as hell

[fierce valve]

Nerf fun guys. Fun is not balanced. Why cant game be more like every other game omg.

[storm siren]

Definitely doesn’t need to be nerfed that’s what happens when you go against 3 mediums.
I think what needs to be addressed is when a team runs 3 of the same class then that team shouldn’t be allowed to run all of the same load outs.
I think that would fix a lot of imbalanced gameplay.

[near lagoon]

But that would make the game less fun. Playing with friends and you all go for a stupid build that's fun. You can't just remove that

[finite tide]

Didn't EMBARK say they fixed the angelscript UE5 error?
I still get it =(

[tame gate]

the friend list should tell you if someone is in a match or not, and if they're even in the game or not, you see that they are online even if they didn't open the finals. i added someone and i forgot to ask them for their discord or steam id before leaving and now i have to keep spamming the invite and hope he's even in the game

[karmic niche]

lolol the "wtf" sent me

[storm siren]

I would agree with you but at the same time everyone is crying for nerfs on literally everything.
I get it theirs so many in balances but I think most things are pretty balanced when one team mate has a defib or one heavy has a nuke it’s not that in balanced.
But when you see 2 heavy’s and you get nuked every time or when you see 3 mediums and it’s a constant defib and you can never wipe people will say oh that’s so in balanced, when it’s really not it’s just that theirs 3 people using that one ability which makes people see it as an issue.

I really think a good approach to fixing some of these imbalances would be limit teams being able to run 3 of the same class load outs instead of just nerfing literally everything.

[small wave]

I agree, and using an already unbalanced item is amazing, and then multiplying that by 2 or 3 is crazy. a whole team with nukes could wipe a whole squad within seconds. and a whole team of defibs can become a team of 6

[lavish shard]

What do you think about the possibility of destroying the statues to prevent reanimation with defib but not manually?

[late peak]

Make it possible to use Emotes at the lobby :D!

[warm ledge]

and the meta is 2 mediums and one heavy, so 2 revives. The meta makes it so no one can die

[spark girder]

That’s a terrible idea and would take way too much work to solve the problem in the most roundabout and restrictive way instead of directly addressing the power of medium’s must-picks.

You’re crazy if you think defib isn’t the most busted gadget in the game and people should just accept playing against 3 defib MMM.

3 isn’t even the issue, by itself the defib is extremely hard to punish. It belongs in the ability slot on top of removing the invulnerability on rez.

[storm siren]

I never said it’s not a busted gadget.
I do think all abilities are pretty busted when you have a whole team running the same thing.

I also think it’s pretty easy to kill someone after they got revived,
And it’s easy to die after being revived.
They already nerfed it once, how many more times will they have to nerf it for it to be balanced?

This is my point it’s a constant cry for nerf this nerf that.

If one teammate has a defib it’s not like it’s a super busted gadget it’s apart of the game and you may or may not like that but that’s what embark decided they wanted in their game.

I think their could be another solution to fixing imbalances rather then nerfing everything every week.

[prisma ledge]

So I changed back to medium right before nuke nerf and I gotta say. Medium is hilariously broken. People saying its a skill based class. Its not, all you do is zip to highground use a weapon without recoil and get free kills. I have played maybe 30 hours the last two weeks mainly as medium. It need a nerf... Fun as hell though, but realy broken.

Also during my 30 hours, i've died once to a nuke. If you die as a medium its on you...

[shrewd egret]

Nerf C4 DMG

[torpid pine]

Please fix the game crashing mid ranked battle, force download, and then coming back and being suspended for 10 minutes because it force closed to do an update. SMH.

[upper citrus]

remove nukes. sorry for offending anyone that needs them to win i hope u get good soon 🙏

[tribal zinc]

any1 else has the game randomly freezing and crashing (just doing quickplay) on pc...

[warm ledge]

imagine youre playing and you use your whole mag to kill a person and then a medium goes in and insta revives them while im reloding and heals them to full in a few seconds. Its not a rare thing for that to happen.

[mental blaze]

There should be an option to either pin certain contracts to ur UI in game, or even just view them in between deaths.

[sly estuary]

Can we do something to improve footstep sounds. I can hear heavy 2m behind me running like common

[storm siren]

Yeah revives are apart of the game?? lol
That’s why you have teammates and communication on your side.

If you want to play a game without revives there are plenty other games out there.

I actually think what the other guy said would be a great idea to have the defib moved to an ability.

[eager raven]

why does charge n slam push teammates?

[spring drift]

TRUE ASFFFFFFF

[quiet comet]

Maybe the game need a nerf of the turret and stop the guys who have 2 turret

[quick coyote]

It does? Time to fire up the game to troll

[brittle harness]

Playing this game in ranked is pointless.

[soft gorge]

Mouse and keyboard support on consoles and input based matchmaking on the next update, please!

[storm siren]

They already nerfed the turret.
They already nerfed about every item in the game.

They should consider limiting a team to not being able to all run the same load outs so 3 guys can’t all run turret etc.
(At least for ranked)

Then the game will be played as it should and classes will be utilized how they were intended.

Even then people will still yell nerf!

[flint badge]

Headshot killfeed icons please

[lavish shard]

you are so right that it nerfs all meta toxic but when we propose that the answer is 🤡

[autumn iris]

Allow an opt out of being revived or at least some kind of notification to let your team know not to pick you up. Too many times will a medic pick me up on their last leg of health and leave me with an entire team to 1v3.

[agile ivy]

The rank icons in the aftermath screen are too tiny, it's hard to indentify people's ranks

[urban harness]

hey why did you guys make it so beta players like me dont get the stuff we got on beta onto the full release

[quick coyote]

Can anyone recommend a fun game to play?

[storm siren]

I honestly think they just need to do a game mode where every team has to have 1 of each class but of course people won’t like that because they won’t want to play light or some other reason.

That will re in force team work and communication to win because each class has their own strong suit and weak suit.

From there we will really be able to tell what’s to over powered or under powered.

1 turret by itself doesn’t need to be nerfed and that could be said for just about every ability.

Maybe defib should be placed in the ability slot rather than a gadget slot that’s debatable if theirs only one medium on a team but I don’t think by itself it needs a nerf like people say.

[obsidian solar]

BUFF THE RIOT SHIELD:
Here's some suggestions, I know all of these together would make the shield pretty strong but even 1 or 2 would be enough to improve it so much!:

• While blocking movement speed should be the same as walking (increasing block movement speed would help a lot in pushing and giving your teammates support)
• Lunge distance (90% of the fight become a chase you can't win, the other classes have ways to block enemies, slow them down or catch up to them, even heavies have RPG to finish people off if they use sledge)
• Increase damage from 84 to 90 (to kill heavies in 4 hits instead of 5)
• Add a charge like attack, to activate it press the attack button while blocking kinda like charge N slam, of course less powerful and without the destruction effect, it would add variety, also all the other melee weapons have two attacks)

IMPROVE MELEE TRACKING:

• Some weapons like the Dagger have an insane lock that is not needed, on the other hand the Riot Shield has a very weak lock, you can't even hit people in your face sometimes. Consider increasing the angle at which the lock works and reduce the lock strenght on the Dagger

FIX THE DAGGER BACKSTAB:

• Backstabs with the Dagger are the most incosistent thing I've ever seen, a lot times either nothing happens or it's not backstab even though you're right behind them and other times it is when you're literally in front of them.
• Increase the backstab hitboxes because the latency of the servers causes this problems
• Make it so you can hold the backstab and it's not a forced animation, revert it like it was in the Open Beta

[torpid pine]

Game crashed again! Twice in 40 minutes plus having to wait 10 minutes because of getting penalized for it crashing. You all gotta fix this. This is why people quit.

[urban harness]

hey why did you guys make it so beta players like me don't get the stuff we got on beta onto the full release

[tepid shard]

OK, really f'n annoying things. I think Finals needs some kinda thingie for when a tournament team member just f'n quits... team whipe when you're only 2 or 1 is annoying AF....I did win a tournie just 2 of us the entire way though..

[worn stirrup]

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[subtle saddle]

Would love to see Mirror's Edge/parkour based movement added! either class wide or maybe as a special for L? I think the maps would be absolutely perfect for it. And with 50% of the games objective being: "get from point A to point B fast" i think parkour would fit very nicely. please thank you 🙏

Mirror's Edge's "momentum" system was awesome and rewarded good pathing and quick thinking. If implemented class wide it would be cool if top speeds, acceleration/momentum buildup, and animation speed was different per class (fast for Light, Slow for Medium, and Slower for heavy) So the classes still feel different from each other but so an experienced heavy can still get around and not feel so stiff! or maybe im trippin idk W or L chat

The skill expression would go crazy with somethin as simple as just moving around the games arena!

Please thank you love the game! 🙏

[hallow ruin]

The Throwing Knives need some buffs
I have some ideas:
1 idea:
Right click can be hold ready
When throwing left click, after the second throw click again to throw additional third knife, then the recovery animation (1.3 seconds) starts.
This will reward greatly for landing hits in a row and gives an opportunity to kill medium in one "combo"

2 idea
Right click can be hold
Left click fire rate is faster (about 30-40% faster)
3 idea
Right click can be hold
Left click fire rate is faster (15-25%), projectile speed increased.

[quick coyote]

Please buff game

[solid narwhal]

Add input based matchmaking and a xim/cheat detection rework so we can have kbm on console
Please and thank you.

[agile elbow]

really would appreciate nukes being removed or put more in-line with light nukes
at least some sort of counterplay beyond "HOLD APS EVERYWHERE YOU GO"

[zinc haven]

W

[plush grotto]

When I first got the game I thought it’d be 1 of each class. What would be cool is a limit of 1 of each ability

[tame pivot]

literally force LMH`, no more MMM, no more MMH, no more HHM and without making every class weak as fuck

@warm ledge look at bank it and quick cash plenty of people play light

trying to balance gadgets taking class stacking into account will force class stacking to compensate

[warm ledge]

that would make it like overwatch with the roles, and no one will play light

[deft jetty]

Wish you could switch classes between rounds….in ranked….the whole class.. example: run heavy first round to test the waters (solo queue), switch to medic medium if I see the folks I’m running with were about them heals….

[karmic spade]

Get rid of invis. It’s not fun to play with or against

[hallow ruin]

Please give some love to light
And finally punch medium in the teeth hard enough.

[daring fossil]

judging from previous "buffs" a light buff would consist of "Gave lights 10 extra hp, but all light guns damage fall off range is now 20 meters" because every pretend buff comes with unnecessary nerfs.

[violet elbow]

"so basically there is an 80% difference in time to Kill from light to heavy but because Light moves slightly faster and is smaller its actually Broken" do you even listen to yourself 💀💀💀💀💀💀

[balmy rune]

Been playing this game for nearly 500 hours over the past 12 months, but today I am FINALLY uninstalling. One reason and one reason only- I keep getting matched up against top 1000 players all ranked diamond when I am gold and have bronze ranked teammates constantly. How did they manage to screw up matchmaking this bad? Player count is down 10k players every other week, so sad... RIP The Finals, my favorite FPS game of the last decade 💔

[agile ivy]

^result of a queue system that requires 48 players for a ranked group

[deft jetty]

Furthermore, seemingly a huge portion of folks really want to run light in ranked as well….. (You have to admit, whether or not you are good with light or not, and I’m not, it’s simply the most enjoyable class to use)… so the folks that want to use Light, and just want to practice with the class in ranked difficulty levels, it would be nice to have the ability for someone like myself (let’s say, hypothetically) to run Light in round 2 or 3 instead, while running a more introductory to the crew type class like a medium or a heavy in round 1. Avoiding any score loss for the innocent bystanders that are my random teammates from the solo queue gods. ( I get it , I get it, I get it, I get it). I get the whole keeping of the class and how that simply ties in with “traditional” tournament rules and such, but I feel like that only plays a part in legitimizing the thought that you should have to use the same class every round when it’s a best of 3 or best of 4 type situation, while here in this game only 2 out of 4 advance to see at least 2, sometimes all 3 new oppositions. Most of all, on top of user experience satisfaction increase, I think it would play a huuuuuge role in tweaking the experience of a solo player and what they are likely to come across on a nice and quiet ranked grind.

[bold root]

can someone fix the problem where you can't relink your steam account to your embark id? It's really annoying that I am no longer able to play the game cause I was trying to fix a bug.

[half rover]

Fix UE5

[night geode]

the ability to matchmake in the practice range would be cool

[daring fossil]

ranked match making is bad because no one is playing ranked comparatively... 30k peak players on steam globally. There's probably less than 500-1000 people playing ranked during peak hours in whatever region if you're lucky. If ranked actually waited to make perfectly balanced queues, people would be waiting for 30+ minutes

[flint falcon]

Turrets need to have 25 percent less damage per bullet for every person on your team with a turret

[quick coyote]

Sledge is more fun tbh

[hazy yew]

Really need a 4 team mode and 2 team mode for friends hopping on and off. Would love to also play ranked as a light but seems impossible with the matchmaking

[deft jetty]

I feel like they (embark, creator of the best fps in the last half decade, gobble gobble) have just been sitting on the season 2 recon all of season 1 and it’s just been the recon you use in the practice range…. I honestly thought it was a bug my first week or so playing the game when I went into an actual game and seen it could be toggle-able. (I knew something wasn’t right). Same with the invisible cloak. (However my thought on that ability changed.)
I’m wondering what everyone’s thoughts are here about if embark decided to make the recon perk a click once drain all and then lengthen that 30 meters out …..to….. back how it was…..? Or how many meter(s)? lol 🤷‍♂️

[thorny parcel]

Please don't make it full map again 😭
If it has to be a thing, make it work like Thermal Vision where you have to take it out and activate it. It then lasts a short while and anyone you see that you are looking at in your camera's fov is given the warning that they are detected.

[smoky gust]

stuns are not fun

[astral frost]

need auto sprint

[bold wren]

my game keeps freezing and kicking me out of ranked wtf. im up to 1 hour 55 suspension

[glacial grail]

yep same, usually i can play the first knockout round then i crash loading into the 2nd. i love this game but i cannot rly play it atp

[twin orchid]

Has anyone had the bug where they can’t use the control panels in the massive cranes on the map. When I go into them for some reason I can only turn them left and I can hit the other buttons as it’ll just keep popping up with the interact “turn left”. Is this just me? Anyone know how to fix? Cheers

[lament python]

fix SA servers

[pulsar slate]

Is there a chance I download the Unreal Engine, the game somehow translates to a faster experience?

[green sphinx]

Anyone else not able to play because of ping? Im in NA and on NA servers yet my ping is damn awful meanwhile my German friend has no issues. Why.

[hollow solar]

I use a goxlr mixer and have had issues with my mic working for the past few weeks...

[hollow solar]

Mic doesn't seem to work at all since last patch. Anyone else experiencing similar issues? GoXLR mini with a Yeti Blue

[agile ivy]

blatant hackers are a thing again, people getting 100% headshots

[tiny mist]

Fix Ranked queues, no one wantes to play quick play 24/7

[steady sierra]

is there linux support yet

[hexed atlas]

Yeah, i didn't encounter that many cheaters before, but tonight, it's hellish.
Coordinated, too. a team of 3 lights, 2 snipers who were hitting headshots at the exact same time and one running all over with seemingly infinite dashes. Kinda put me off playing for now, its a shame.

Saying they're all on Steam, but two players aren't showing up anywhere on Steams community searches. 🙄

[fathom gale]

B O A T

[autumn iris]

can also confirm.

[upper citrus]

remove nukes

[near snow]

finally finished the battlepass and now i can stop playing, was a great game until the meta started to be formed and now every match is dominated by double heavy medium, shields for days bullets for days and more than enough health for your magdump to mean nothing.

[sour bane]

damn.. hit under 20k for the first time

for a ranked only player, i play less now because ranked meta is mega stale. i playing playing against mmm or mmh comps. boring.

[cyan cove]

add sniper for heavy

[autumn iris]

How do I stop getting Las Vegas every single game? 🙏

[humble tinsel]

rework recon

[upper citrus]

that too

[pulsar slate]

Maybe we should all run the beta again, since the issues were less rampant across the board. Including title page disconnects before getting into game.

[flat adder]

@severe wave the issue was that its the finals round and the vault is stuck under the map

[rose surge]

Yea the game is really stale imho too. They need to fire a lot of the balancing team and get some FPS OG devs in the mix.

[severe wave]

Damn you got outskilled. such an nice nuke kill damn amazing this game looks really balanced😍 Doesnt surprise me game has insane amounts of bugs and they wont fix it. Like the one bug where you get kicked out and cant join back its there since months and the devs wont fix it. I guess they work together with ubisoft. Atleast ubisoft had an amazing dev team in ranked 1.0. Finals dev team was/is always shit@lethal swift They are but the devs dont care. Heavy is insanely busted and takes no skill at all but they wont nerf them. It is what it is^^

[lethal swift]

does anyone have a opinion on the strength of shields and domes health for heavies?? cause they are busted imo

[quick coyote]

Deployables should disappear on team wipe. There’s no reason I should have to fight 3 people’s ghosts on top of a third party.

[late peak]

not the first time. In europe timezones we have 2:00 midnight... therefore alot less play.

[distant wing]

Sad tbh. i hope the playercounts can stabilize.
I really think this game deserves so much more :/

[loud night]

nerfif defib chains

[pseudo horizon]

ADD 4v4 and 5v5 and buff snipers!!!

[visual bramble]

6v6 mode pretty please with a cherry on top 🥺

[zealous fractal]

5v5’s would be pretty cool

[sonic spoke]

Hackers galore last 2 days wth. dosoemthign abotu this. no wonder people are not playing

[autumn iris]

Not the only reason people aren't playing.

[fathom gale]

B O A T

[upper citrus]

remove nukes

[distant wing]

buff nukes

[quick coyote]

Leave nukes

[fierce valve]

Nukes

[autumn iris]

Can yall stop closing my game for clicking my mouse faster than 1 click per 50 years, that's kinda the point of the pistol 👍

[pulsar drift]

I think Mediums should get glitch grenade and Lights get defib.

[fathom gale]

B O A T S for all classes:
Light - canoe
Medium - speedboat
Heavy - battleship

[late basin]

Gametype suggestions:
a) a "big team battle" where 6-8 teams fight each other at once
b) a gametype where the goal is to do the most environmental damage
c) a "hot potato" gametype where instead of collecting a maguffin, the goal is to give it away to the other team, and after a while it detinates killing the player/team (or it can simply be passed to other players via killing them (that way any playstyle works)

[dense ruin]

increase fcar mag size

[autumn iris]

Grenade indicator?

[native rover]

Please add a party up feature at the end of games 🙏

[sour bane]

can't wait for 6x mediums with 6x defibs!!

[warm frost]

fix the fkin server, disconnect trash game

[brave totem]

you should be able to change your weapons during a comp match not after it

[late basin]

I feel that would make the meta of the game to where you basically have to based on your situation, but Idk

[hollow bramble]

Just change the fcar maybe ur game wont dip below 20k players

[slim wyvern]

wait, when season 2 starts, will the gun ranks and progression level reset? will there be new things to unlock?

[quick coyote]

This is so much fun

[warm frost]

another dc! lets go! trash game!

[late basin]

I wish this game had replays

[brazen isle]

Bring back welding mask twitch drop please

[hollow bramble]

I wish this game was good

[quaint forge]

Buff heavy nade launcher?1??1??1?

[vital radish]

Game would be good if FCAR + Lewis gun weren't the only guns in existence

[frail tinsel]

How can they say the skilled based matchmaking has been improved yet I’m gold in a lobby with the #1,2 and 8 players in the world

[latent zealot]

Did they increase time to kill?

[hollow bramble]

23 kills and wiped them once yes yes yes triple defib is balanced

[austere cobalt]

,

[acoustic ruin]

While launching it is saying the following "Fatal error: Cheat software was detected. this is a violation of our code of conduct, continued use will lead to account suspension or other action in accordance with our user terms." i havent used any cheat softwares, but its still showing that. what can i do here ? While launching the game on steam i get the above mentioned fatal error. i tried re installing the game, verifying the files, and even checked the processes in task manager to identify anything suspiscious.
could you suggest me ways or methods for how to check if anything is there.

[deft whale]

there should be a way to send someone a message after you make friends with them. or at least see if a invite was sent while they were maybe in a game or some kind of notification system to make actively looking for players to play with in game much easier and more streamlined. at the very least if i add someone i should be able to message them on steam or something

[cloud frigate]

put a shish ton of work into the insane balancing problem instead of releasing a ton of events and cosmetics (only half joking)
fix error TFAV1011 ( god help me its been a problem for weeks :)))))))))))))))))) )

[acoustic ruin]

Can anyone help me with this?

[desert flume]

Please fix the issue of having a teammate who is bronze in ranked matches against higher ranks, I always get terrible teammates 😭

[shy fjord]

they need to nerf grenade launcher for medium and add it so only 2 of the same class can play on a team

[fiery thorn]

anyone else notice the clipping on clothing getting worse? like i've had the hoodie jacket and the wheelspin gloves equipped and had no problem with them clipping but i log in and they are clipping through eachother? kind of annoying

[brisk heath]

has anyone thought of adding a health bomb. Sort of like a vanishing bomb, more like the bacta bomb in Star Wars Battlefront 2 (the EA one)

[cunning dagger]

Need to do something for game-leavers.
Penalizing just the leaver doesn't benefit you. Your time, game and points are ruined.
The remaining player should not be given negative rating (0 is fine) and option to leave the game as well , so you don't have to waste 10 minutes.

[idle anvil]

Do yall think after season 1 they’ll get rid of Vegas or keep it in

[stable lagoon]

Just get an APS turret

[autumn iris]

I hope they remove it, or at the very least rework their map algorithm so I stop getting it back to back

[harsh panther]

vegas is fine compared to maps like seoul which are much more annoying to play on in comp

[frank oracle]

New map and gadget and new mode

[subtle oak]

The biggest problem with Vegas is the spawns in my opinion. Map is ok but spawns are terrible.

[velvet steppe]

Anyone else having problems equipping charms and stickers? They dissapear randomly

[desert flume]

Please make it so that skins, charms, and stickers can be equipped in both the equipment and contestant pages

[cobalt coral]

Day 9 of asking for a real life Nama Tama Tamagochi.

[thorny hare]

Do something about cheaters. Half of them are running around with the battle pass or some other premium currency outfits on now because they know the anticheat and report functions are useless.
It’s frustrating that the community managers parrot the same useless answer of “report them in game” - even more so when the same person you report every other day for a month is still running around rage hacking.

[errant flame]

Light moves 25% faster. Multiply this by a hitbox probably twice smaller and that's a huge difference. Now add recoil which will play a role once you both will try to out-left-right each other.
Not to mention his specs that don't prevent light from shooting and reloading and don't slow him down and one even makes him dash around your screen like crazy instead.

[calm crystal]

I think light should have some sort of self heal ability on long cool down - they are all ready the most selfish class, esp with comms, and it means that if a light is playing properly (in cover out of cover) they can safely attack sooner. That or they should have their heal timer take half the time as heavy and have medium in the middle (maybe 75% not half). Also a reload speed buff on xp and m11 would be nice. I think sniper is at a fine place and so is sword and dagger, if light themselves get a bit of a buff

[violet elbow]

so again in short your aim is awful and you cant track something moving at moderate speeds

[obsidian prism]

This

[errant flame]

Says light who doesn't even need to aim and track against heavy

[lament pendant]

For s2 I think these 3 things should be added
1: replay cam it can help a lot with the youtube com if ppl wanted to make edits or cinematics
2: add custom games so if creators wanted host their own lobby with fans, and play custom games with friends
3: also a 4v4 game mode would be cool

[late peak]

the replay cam should be there still in s1 imo...

[supple tiger]

not sure if anyone has pitched this idea yet, but what if in ranked we could use a token to swap a gadget, weapon or specialty? I feel that it would add some cool counterplay and depth to the game. I usually end up having 5 tokens at the end of tournaments so it could give it another reason to be used.

[quick coyote]

why no fall damage

[fallow loom]

we need punishment for the streamer teams that team up with other teams(the entire game, not just a cashout decision), what they do is they put two vaults in a same cashout and both teams defend the same cashouts the entire game, it is so unfair, i can provide their ids and screen shots but i cant send img on this channel

[errant flame]

DAY 7️⃣ since nuke death of asking to swap Heavy and Light DPS

Light can kill heavy at least just as well as heavy can kill light thanks to smaller hitbox, better DPS, better speed, better recoil (and maybe thanks to a faster firerate too), which are more than enough to compensate for less HP. With difference being, light can go in and out whenever he wants, but heavy - not really. He is just a big fat slow prey and his shield only makes him even more noticeable and slower. Yeah, heavy has RPG, but it has big CD, can deal up to 252 self damage to himself, can be disabled with stun or glitch and keeps getting nerfed and nerfed. And stun gun...Stun gun can render 2, if not 3 out of 6 heavy weapons useless if the light isn't a complete moron and knows to keep just a bit of distance. Also, while heavy can defend himself with his shield, he can't against sword. And his shield prevents him from shooting and makes him slower. A light wouldn't even need to wear down his own defenses to wear down heavy's.

The situation somewhat changes when heavy has a team, but why does heavy need a team and light doesn't? Why should HEAVY be hunted down by none other than a single light? Why does HEAVY, the HEAVY hitter, the HEAVY artillery, the guy with HEAVY and big guns deals the least amount of damage with his weapons? And even with a team, light's glitch grenades are quite good against heavy and light's DPS and stun gun is quite good at preventing heavy from stealing a cash.

In the meantime, people complain that light isn't very useful in teamplay and ranked. So, maybe swap heavy and light DPS and give light more teamplay, team utility and usefullness. Now, that the nukes, which was the main thing that gave heavy his heavy firepower, are killed, it's about time.
And rework MGL

[cinder ermine]

there should be change in respawn algo to minimize funneling multiple team into as single objective constantly. There should be limit placed to prevent two teams from spawning next to the same obj because it would be unfair to be instantly flanked by 2 team respawning at the same time. for a defending team. Too often, due to spawn algo, 3 teams would contest the same cash out while one team get a cash out for free.

[violet elbow]

Tell me your movement is bad and you only fight Bums on Heavy without telling me.

no clue of strafes or any actual in-fight movement

and also I mostly play Heavy and Medium :)
@errant flame

@errant flame because having an L in my name is funny? wanna see my max level c4? 💀

[near lagoon]

Please stop reposting this. It's a bad take. Try, please try playing light and go against a good heavy. It's impossible to kill them in a fair fight. You need to flank and deal a lot of damage before they start shooting at you, stun gun and glitch grenades can help a lot with this.

It's not that you're wrong about it being annoying to die like this as heavy. But light can't kill heavy without these tactics so please start focusing on this instead of saying how helpless heavy is. Because no, heavy is only helpless when light gets an surprise attack.

So either start being more aware off your surroundings, or start complaining about how light has to kill heavy in this way that isn't that fun for heavy and that light should be buffed in health or something so they can take a fair fight. But that would kinda ruin the class.

@violet elbow why do you have Light main as a role if you mostly play medium and heavy?

[daring ravine]

Please add keyboard and mouse support back to consoles

[mild pond]

would be cool if you could reduce the likelihood of rejoining a lobby I’ve just left

[errant flame]

Neither my movement nor aim is bad, but lights get a huge advantage on it.

[ionic remnant]

RIOT SHIELD BUFFS NEEDED OR CHANGES

1. Can shield against rapier while holding RMB or atleast when rapier hits the shield there be no damage
2. Lessen number of hits to kill Heavy
3. Can crouch while holding RMB

[drifting thistle]

i wonder when is the next patch

[granite rock]

please add a new sword skin in shop or something 😭

[obsidian solar]

Useless update, niceeee

[pallid harbor]

Option to buy items in a bundle separately would be nice, I usually only like one item, but it's not worth the whole 20$ bundle price

[soft gorge]

And nothing about nukes...

[solemn linden]

When will we be able to see if our embark-friends are in a match or in the lobby?
I dont wanna spam invites for up to 20 Minutes D:

[normal sapphire]

Damn this update be the most disapointing update of all time

[subtle oak]

Guys, don’t call it a bad update because there is no changes to the actual game. Bug and crash fixes are just as important because loads of people had issues with crashing.
Keep up the good work team Embark!

@silver forge True

[gaunt thunder]

What is this update ☠️ only bug fixes and light is unplayable since the game is out

[silver forge]

Would be nice if they actually told us what bugs they fixed like in the other patches.

[sinful gazelle]

yeah sadly no dev note like in another patches. would love some.

[pulsar slate]

Looking to see what bugs they were??

[dry geode]

I think they might’ve made a mistake tbh. They probably have the specifics.

[fiery crescent]

i think you guys need to find a way to prevent hacker. ranked tournament at asia 100% is full by hacker

[ashen peak]

People pls, 2GB of fixes and improvements, thats not useless or dissapointing at all

[granite ravine]

they should add a "sorry" button since i fck up so bad lol

[limber birch]

i keep getting kicked for integrity bruh you guys just did a patch on that

[river horizon]

The update 1.9 are ready for consoles?

[rugged flax]

I second this 😭 my teammates Res me just for me to instantly die or fall off a cliff

[hallow ruin]

Yes this.

[warm marsh]

The Devs are for real already in season 2, and they ask themselves why the game losses so many Players. Those updates are just showing how bad the management is.

[ebon peak]

U need to know what are you doing while playing light,, light is well balanced and the best in right hands,,don't be a cry baby and get good

[proud eagle]

seriously update your anticheat system. Easy anticheat makes their own cheat for players to bypass their own security.

[gaunt thunder]

Im literally top 1400 😭😭😭 if you see against what you play you notice the meta is only heavy and medium cause light can’t do nothing against a fcar or against a lewis, flamethrower, rpg, nukes etc… and even medium haves better movement then light thanks to the jump pad

[near violet]

yooooo

[gentle zealot]

Glad we got a stability patch. Hope the game crashes less overall now!

[prime wing]

the patch notes being two lines with a massive here's what you can buy video above them is peak comedy

[quick coyote]

another patch without removing nukes..

[drifting thistle]

thanks goodness no changes. I still can abuse heavy dash. Feel free to get close to me feel my body 130 damage on first kiss

[timid pumice]

Another week another embark update 🚬🥴

[rich tiger]

Why is this community so complainy and ungrateful.. my god ur a pain in the a$$, I wonder how the devs can keep up with your constant complaints about EVERYTHING

[silver forge]

This is the feedback channel, where players give feedback. It’s normal for people to mention the negative stuff. I agree that not everyone has great ideas but that’s only normal when you open discussion to the public

[lament talon]

I'm a competitive player lurking usually around the highest rank in most competitive games I play.

And I think the finals is the best game out of them all yet I don't play it.
**Why don't I play it? It's simple: **

1. the ranking system is too easy and just takes a long time. I cant remember a time I really lost points. This takes away the prestige of ranks.
2. There is no esports scene or tournaments I can have fun in.

But I have high hopes and will come back Season 2 🙏

[gaunt thunder]

Cause they needed WEEKS to make nukes weaker and the are still good for example, I meant to reply to the message above xd

@lament talon yeah me too I’m a high top and don’t feel any reason to keep grinding but I hope season 2 will come with big changes

[fallow elbow]

Does anyone know if there's plans for custom games in the future?

[short fractal]

They just need to add more ak skins to save the game 🤡

[outer jetty]

Reposting my gamemode ideas.

- Gamemode Ideas:

[Main]:
Bounty Hunters -         [4 Teams, 3v3v3v3]
Hide And Seekers -       [2 Teams, 6v6]
Sponsors Wars -          [4 Teams, 3v3v3v3]
Escort -                 [2 Teams, 6v6]
Bank Bandits -           [2 Teams, 6v6]

[Other]:
Bomb Rush -              [3 Teams, 3v3v3]

If you interested of the details of all gamemodes. Free to DM me to have the Text file. [Examples: Objectives, Reasons]

[drifting thistle]

change the name to "Defib war", see which team last

[rough acorn]

No point of arguing with him his brain is slowly rotting I mean the guy doesn’t even know what he’s yapping about

[soft gorge]

Step aside ladies and gents, the ball licker is here... The community has to accept everything they do? So this channel is useless. Perfectly fine to not like the update and complain about it...

[hollow dune]

whoever is the other team I know yall mad af 🤣

[gritty gorge]

ADD CUSTOM LOBBIES IN S2 and PLEASE DONT FORGET ABOUT REWORKING RANKED

[lapis gust]

please devs, give us free 25 multibucks so we can afford the battlepass for cheaper

[dull elm]

Why? You already get 750 from completing the free bp (-300 free ones from making a account) so you can get the bp for free after 3 Battle passes

Thats literally the fastest time to get a free bp in any game

[keen epoch]

<@&1012034066876473384>
Since update 1.9 released recently, I am assuming 2.0 will be season 2.

Just wondering if there will be an option for Q & A with the dev team during the next live stream, cuz I found out that the Finals destructions and everything runs entirely server side and it got me wondering about the possibilities. Like if events where an entire map is changed or added or replaced, could that happen in the middle of a game. We all know how Fortnite did those events but it always transitioned into cutscene for them, could the finals do this during gameplay?

[fickle linden]

Interesting questions, definitely going to ask if that can happen! I 100% agree lots of possibilities are open, and we are just starting out so hopefully you'll love what our dev team come up with next! 👀

[obsidian solar]

BUFF THE RIOT SHIELD:
Here's some suggestions, I know all of these together would make the shield pretty strong but even 1 or 2 would be enough to improve it so much!:

• While blocking movement speed should be the same as walking (increasing block movement speed would help a lot in pushing and giving your teammates support)
• Lunge distance (90% of the fight become a chase you can't win, the other classes have ways to block enemies, slow them down or catch up to them, even heavies have RPG to finish people off if they use sledge)
• Increase damage from 84 to 90 (to kill heavies in 4 hits instead of 5)
• Add a charge like attack, to activate it press the attack button while blocking kinda like charge N slam, of course less powerful and without the destruction effect, it would add variety, also all the other melee weapons have two attacks)

IMPROVE MELEE TRACKING:

• Some weapons like the Dagger have an insane lock that is not needed, on the other hand the Riot Shield has a very weak lock, you can't even hit people in your face sometimes. Consider increasing the angle at which the lock works and reduce the lock strenght on the Dagger

FIX THE DAGGER BACKSTAB:

• Backstabs with the Dagger are the most incosistent thing I've ever seen, a lot times either nothing happens or it's not backstab even though you're right behind them and other times it is when you're literally in front of them.
• Increase the backstab hitboxes because the latency of the servers causes this problems
• Make it so you can hold the backstab and it's not a forced animation, revert it like it was in the Open Beta

[keen epoch]

Imagine if the Finals could seamlessly transition art styles per season. Like the lore is that the finals takes place in a virtual world, so an event isn't just cosmetics or new weapons but different worlds. Like suddenly a ww2 era and the announcers get an old timey radio voice filter. Like there is already maps on real world places now imagine historical or even fictional ones.

I honestly think this is one of the most talented Dev teams out there right now.
And I feel like all of the strengths in this game and what makes it unique is what will keep it dynamic and be around for years.

Y'all put all other fps games other there to shame!!!

[obsidian prism]

About the charged attack, i think it could be implemented like either the baton slapping the enemies in 30° range or something like that, OR a kick with a leg to push enemies ( could be used to push enemies from the edge of the buildings )

[steel fossil]

how come my first 2 games after the patch have cheaters in them??????? @devs

[keen epoch]

Sorry one last question, so obviously The Finals is very pro AI, especially with the announcers and I don't wish to debate that as I think that was a choice that was made for good reason in longevity but people are always complaining about cheaters and I know they are a big problem but sometimes, especially with closet cheaters, it can be hard to determine who is a cheater vs a good player.

I am wondering if Embark is aware of and if so has an opinion on such projects like Waldo Vision and other AI cheater detection programs where cheats are detected by analyzing human behavior rather than scanning for use of forbidden software, as cheat can now be used on external hardware as well these days.

I personally like the idea of AI anti-cheats like Waldo Vision advertised by YouTubers such as Basically Homeless.

[olive sundial]

nerf daggeer

[shadow gyro]

need beards

[fickle linden]

I can see if our security team can give some answers!

[covert dock]

Just fix aim assist and input lag at ps5 💁💁💁

[void vector]

Revert the Sledgehammer to its original power. It lost one of its best abilities which is destruction. It allowed for lots of strategies and was an important gameplay asset. Also please quit listening to the people telling you to change from the beta it was perfect and the start of the launch was good too.

[keen lily]

I thought the nukes are fixed but they are still bullshit

[pulsar slate]

@fickle linden Curious if you know the extent of the bug fixes, e.g. specifics on title page loads then nothing

[cinder frost]

yea no wonder the game's dead asf rn lmao no one wanna play against heavies

[molten hinge]

Played ranked as light last few nights and haven’t been nuked once. They still exist, for sure, but far less viable.

[uncut ember]

Let players buy items from a bundle but make them cost a bit more than if you got the bundle, like a bundle is 1600, the jacket costs 300 in the bundle, but 400/450 alone. If I bought the items singularly I’d pay 2000 than the 1600 of the bundle and/or make some items exclusive to a bundle, like emotes and stickers.

[shrewd egret]

Nerf C4 dmg

[spring vortex]

Still no "Equip to all" button?

[loud hemlock]

Nerf cash shop prices they are ridiculous.

[distant wing]

Please add some kind of non objective based mode. Something like tdm that you can just play with your brain off

[eager vine]

So which bugs have been fixed? The changelog is very light

[keen lily]

try playing medium, when you run slower, can't turn invisible and don't have any kind of dash, but nukes still one shot you - then they are much bigger issue

[severe wave]

Yh maybe because theres barely any players. Right now theres 18k people online on stream prob only 700 people playing ranked lol. On console its even more dead so idk most people who play now are not really good. Its not a meme anymore sadly. Game is losing like 2k players every week and on console even more. I know that tons of people will come back in season 2 but they have to deliver then if they dont the game will have a very low player count forever

[molten hinge]

Anyway, tired dead game memes aside, nukes shouldn’t be mainstay meta for heavies. I do agree. When I play heavy I dooooo load up every red barrel I find 😂

[proud bramble]

please fix the sledge hammer animations sometime soon. 90% of my games I’m just holding it still and players and buildings will take damage without the sledge even moving

[void scarab]

they just need to increase the priority of melee animations over other animations like removing hand from cash machine

[vocal veldt]

Hello guys!!! I played The finals for almost 60hrs I and love it... however I like to know about, if we have a chance to receive a kill cam ?

[fervent vortex]

It would be cool for solo game modes but would be bad for comp because it would reveal cooldowns

[errant flame]

Light:
Specs now reduce HP regen delay:
Each sec spent Cloaked reduces the delay by 0.5s
Hook - by 2-3s
Each dash - by 1s
Taking damage resets the delay and reduction.
New spec:
Time machine:
Brings back the user to the current spot after N seconds. All carriables can be brought along.
-TP back can’t be triggered manually
-50 dmg upon TP back. If you survive, restores HP as it was before using the ability minus 50.
-TP back doesn’t work if you haven’t moved at least 20 m
-User glows when ability is active and leaves a trace behind himself revealing recent part of is path
-Doesn’t restore CDs on gadgets or negate DOT ticks
-Timer has a random part to it. E.g. 10s +- 3s

Gadgets:
Added:
Heal grenade. Heals allies for 50-90 HP over 2s, user - for 25-45 HP. Delay before exploding. Heals enemies too for 25-45 HP
-Sonar grenade
-Dart - 2 charges on light. Successful shot increases the damage by 10%
Reworked:
-Night vision
-Motion sensor and Glitch radius increase
-Extra frag grenade
-Stun – 2 charges, each lasts for 2s. Target can ADS.

Weapon nerfs:
-Sword
DMG reduced to 66
Swing rate reduced a little
5-6 swings as ammo/charges after which it gets a short pause.
-M11 – DPS 190-200
-XP-54/V9S – DPS 180-190
-SH1900 – DMG – 135
-Knives – DMG – 90

Medium:
-Healing beams can’t be stacked. Heal rate is slightly nerfed
-Defib i-frames slightly nerfed
-Defib has a short CD after getting revived

Heavy:
Gadgets:
-Bring back old damage and radius on RPG and C4
-C4 is thrown and detonated faster
-Dome shield deployed faster and its old HP is restored

-Shield HP reduced to 800.

Weapons:
Lewis Gun - 230 DPS
M60 – 240 DPS
FT– overall DPS increased by 30-50%
SA1216 – each shard deals 9 dmg. Firerate is 80-85% of current one. DPS increase: 2.8%-9.3%
MGL32:

1. Grenades explode on contact, but heavier. This will both keep the weapon more unwieldy with increasing distance and positioning on higher ground desirable
2. Reload & self-damage slightly increased. Demolition in 6 shots

[severe wave]

Honestly just play what you want bro. If people cry about you playing fun builds they shouldnt play solo. And if they cry in lfg they just can stop playing with you. Game is so boring anyways right now im doing some go gun strats at my smurf lol

[wintry flume]

upgrade the anti-cheat and stop manual banning legit players mby? and yeah adding killcams would make more sense for some people and they mby wouldnt report me??

[sick marten]

Nice "bug and crash fix" update embark, game STILL CLOSES ON EAC SCREEN FOR ALMOST A MONTH NOW. If anybody at embark is reading this the launch bug where the game gets to the EAC screen then closes with no message is back with 1.6.0. It was fixed with 1.5.5, then returned with 1.6.0. The hotfix, 1.6.1, and 1.9 patch also did not fix it. I have tried the following:

Restarting my computer

Re-installing the game

Re-installing EAC

Verifying the files

Killing every non essential process and program in task manager

Any help resolving this issue is greatly appreciated.

pls fix I just wanna finish the battle pass I paid for !!!!!!

[void scarab]

If they make it so that you see replays without skill HUD, that shouldn't be a problem.
Just show the name and HP and voila, you've got a kill cam without "spoilers".
On the other hand, seeing cooldowns shouldn't be too bad.
If you're in a premade, you would already communicate that Heavy doesn't have RPG as he used it on you.

[neon rune]

yo, have you tried clearing the appdata folder? ping me in general chat for a response the cooldown here is abysmal

[obsidian solar]

At least you hit them, with the Riot Shield Is a struggle to land hits sometimes

[plush grotto]

I mean it wouldn’t really be a spoiler to see cooldowns. A lot of players memorize other teams loadouts after an encounter to know what to watch out for.

[spark girder]

There will never be killcams because it would fry servers to record every single destruction interaction and replay it for individuals

[quick coyote]

seconded, this also happens with the dagger animation

[dull mesa]

let us buy standalone items from bundle

[warm marsh]

The game dies and the devs only do those type updates its ridiculous

at this point just let the game die
its sad the game idea is good but those who lead it are trash

[short fractal]

Even Roblox is better ong (nerf heavy ffs trash game)

[void vector]

At that point don’t even play games anymore lmfao it does not take much to run this game.

[lavish shard]

Dont nerf heavy or meduim just one heavy and one heal defib by team in ranked

[severe wave]

Yh honestly if they buff light next season then they can do it like overwatch with only 1 class per team or only 1 special ability per team like only 1 heavy can use mesh shield etc because right now its a shit system. Nukes still have to get nerfed tho. @rough acorn What do you think about my second take? people still could play tripple med but only 1 special ability like it will be 1 turret, 1 heal and 1 recon then which i think is way better that way.

[cyan cove]

Fix the crane cause it only turns left

[rough acorn]

sounds shit tbh if im a medium main and can only play medium and another guy locked in medium im force to play classes that im not at góod and dont wanna play that lead to even more toxicity and trolls

[thorn arch]

Back again with the 54 page long google docs of nonsense? 🤣

[lament talon]

You probably have good points but the game isn't dying because of balance issues.
There's nothing to strive for for competitive players and casual players alike.

Ranking system is not based on skill since you can hardly loose no custom games and also not enough arcade or funny things to do for casuals

[wheat thorn]

When we can zoom in and out when inspecting weapons/gadgets? And maybe rotation as well?

[molten hinge]

One class per team insta kills this game

[keen lily]

too much free time does that to a man lmao

[mystic smelt]

Can you make some bundles og only

[quick coyote]

SKILL BASED MATCH MAKING i hate queing with low ranked players random queing is like throwing a game at this point

[subtle oak]

It’s honestly sad seeing so many people say ‘let the game die at this point’ and all other negative feedback.

This is one of the most refreshing games in years. Yes, not everything is perfectly balanced and I find things like nukes frustrating too.

But the devs are doing their best. They only have 2 hands and they don’t work 24h a day. This first season could be seen as a full release ‘beta’. Give the devs some time, it’s only been 2 months since full release.

High hopes for season 2 🤞🏼

[stuck void]

also other way around, im trash and i would like it if i didnt queue up with diamond 1 teams 😂

[thorn arch]

Doesn't really feel like they're doing their best when they release new skins instead of fixing the multitude of issues the game has had since launch and even beta.

[keen lily]

This, whats the point of ranks if I can't get plat because I get loads of bronze/silver players in my team who run double light. Apex also went skill based matchmaking and reverted this change as it's a mistake and makes ranked pointless

[vernal void]

People need to understand that the design people and developer are different people. People who work on skins usually dont work on the balancing aswell.

For people with zero coding experience it is easy to say fix this and fix that. But development just isn't that easy. There is no magical button that removes a bug from the game. Development needs time.

[thorn arch]

No shit everybody knows they're different people 🙄 , but they're still work for the same studio and guess who decides how much time and money they're going to spend on everything. You think way too little of the people making this game, if they wanted to, they can easily remove most of the bugs in this game.

[stuck void]

nuh uh

[quick coyote]

it IS balance issues that is scaring off new players, most complaints on steam are EXACTLY about that + crashes/account issues

[lament talon]

Bugs yes but balance? people are always complaining about balance in Overwatch/Apex/Warzone/Fortnite/etc

And as a Highest rank player in most of those ill say its more balanced than all of those except nuke even though you can say that nuke can be countered

[snow sandal]

When are they going to fix controller sensitivity on Xbox? 😭

[old ore]

How do I invite my pc friend on Xbox

[dense fjord]

play light and tell me it’s balanced. lewis and fcar have a higher ttk then the weapons on light. it doesn’t make sense to use the class of most of the time since you have to skill gap the entire lobby massively to even get value from the class while they just point n click, i love light but the game has some glaring issues with balance. for the people with low reading comprehension light needs help, balance the other two classes for it to have a place in matches.

[subtle oak]

Ok yes I understand your point. But everyone on this channel acting like they are the best game developers out there…
Enjoy the game instead of ‘letting it die’

[vernal void]

If like you say they could fix all the bugs, if they want, why wouldn't they do that? Why wouldn't they want a perfect game? You clearly seem to have no understanding about coding and development.

[rose surge]

If you think lights are balanced, your opinion is irrelevant.

Also, I've been soft quitting the game because of the balance issues. I used to play 20+ hours a week, now I play maybe 2. So, yes people are quitting for the balance issues.

[plain steeple]

light isnt the problem its heavy and mediums weapons which have not been nerfed since ob pretty much the meta has been the same other than recon sense being dropped

[thorn arch]

Perhaps i should've expanded a bit on my point. I don't think they can fix each and every bug and problem in an hour and release the patch tonight, but its pretty clear that they're avoiding fixing a lot of the problems that people have been screaming about for since beta and launch in favour of adding new content since that is what brings in money. For example: Knife animation not working, backstab STILL not registering everytime (same with sword now), getting stuck in doors, lights getting stuck on stairs and roofs and matchmaking not working as it should. Theres a lot more but i cant be bothered to type out everything. I don't understand why you're even defending this when people are leaving because of it.

[lament talon]

@dense fjord @rose surge I didn't say that at all. It's not 100% balanced but it's WAY more balanced than all those other shooters.

Delete the nuke because you casuals cant play around it
Give light a cool passive or more hp/armor and he's back in the game

@thorn arch Look up how many balance fixes Overwatch/Apex did then look up balance and bug fixes from the finals in the last 3 months. And that with their small team s2 they will get more budget and if they keep rolling out fixes like this I am here to stay

I was usually 4.4 in ow Bob and the nuke is somewhat short range you can play long range focus him down / explode him with rpg / shield it / 3 ppl focusing one thats holding and object he goes down pretty fast too / recon sense for short range nuke detection/ light scouting / ... | Nuke is strong 100% but not overly op

[dense fjord]

what’s your peak in those games. how do you play around a 1 shot explosion that you can’t always react to? you play Ow as well ive been in top 500 since ow1 and everyone’s said that 1 shots in that were unfair. so what’s the play around the one shot nukes that can team wipe?

[severe wave]

Theres no play around nukes. Sometimes you get lucky when the heavy player on the enemy team is so bad that he doesnt even hit his nuke. People just talk out of their ass with no arguments. They either say Nukes are not a problem or that you can counter it. They never say how to counter it tho lol. You see no arguments just yapping. I dont know how many times i had to explain why nukes are busted and even did tons of tests. Other people too who showed them on this discord. Nuke has like a 5-7 meter radius i mean thats pretty big but yh ITS NOT A PROBLEM SKILL ISSUE haha brain dead thats the only thing those people are. @cloud vale Skill issue just get better bro. Just dodge the nukes and rpg come on man. Its so easy to dodge there is no problem. So much skill aswell. JUST counter it come on): JUST get better

[rich tiger]

I think that you dying to nukes is just a skill issue. They can't reach that far, and on red barrels they aren't accurate even a little. If you just don't have movement or reflexes is your problem ☝🏻🤓

[prisma ledge]

I don't understand the problem with nukes. Died to it twice in 30 hours of gametime. If you don't think there is a way around it, you're just not good enough. The medium class on the other hand is still op. There are way more broken abilities that belongs to this class. and it's the reason I main it.

[pliant rock]

PC performance optimization needed. I think everyone agrees on this as a basis to expanding the eligible playerbase

[stuck void]

"make the game run better"

[upper citrus]

remove the weight nerf on nukes but make it so that C4 doesn’t do damage to player if it’s on props. it would be really cool to have the choice between using my C4 on the ground for damage or using it on a prop for longer range destruction

[cloud vale]

Sometimes even hits on the other side of walls or floors... and i have to see ppl calling it SkiLl IsSuE, most of the ppl are running Shield (+1000hp) + Lewis gun (47 bullets no recoil at all) + rocket (+140hp most of the time) + dome shield and c4 to do the most skilled action in the game.

[void vector]

Stop nerfing things revert the nerfs, the game was balanced when it released. Everything was good until you guys started nerfing shit because people sit here and cry about them getting killed.

[dense dagger]

I agree to force LMH only in ranked & normal tournaments though.

[lament talon]

We're all on the same side we wanna make the game better. So whatever ideas we have share em @dense fjord @rose surge.
In my life I have never seen so many balance changes in such a short time from a fps so let's keep it going

[unkempt bane]

I love this game but

People dont

And dev dont know that

[vernal void]

I can somewhat agree with you on this. Yes some of these bugs were in the game a long time. And some of them maybe aren't even all that hard to fix. BUT it still takes time, to validate things people are reporting. They probably receive hundreds of reports everyday and alot of them aren't valid. Then the process continues by finding out why the bug is happening etc... I am defending them because because I am a developer myself (not game dev though) and know how complicated things can get. I wouldn't even wanna imagine adding a physics engine or having to deal with latency and multiplayer on the job i am doing.
And second embark is a company. Of course they want to make money. Gaming is a business after all. They will always prioritzie things that they can monetize above some "little" bugs. Rent isn't gonna pay on its own.

I am also getting annoyed here and there when my backstab doesn't connect properly and I would like to have that fixed. But they are just humans too. They can't do everything and they have to prioritize.

[thorn arch]

True true, i woke up not too long ago and hadn't had my caffeine yet so i got a bit unnecessarily irritated lol

[prisma ledge]

Lol @crude brook, @severe wave and @cloud vale . You all admitted to your lack of awareness and positioning. If you want some tips I can give it to you. Dm me if you want a free course. Also please buff light and heavy so I can play something else than medium. It's just to broken and you can't really play anything else.

Whiny people cry because they can't win a 1v1 in close courter combat against a heavy with full health while they have no setup time. Learn your class or change it. Just because you don't know how to counterplay doesn't mean other aspects of the game is broken. It's a skill issue 100%. Again if i've had over 30 hours of gametime as a medium and died to a nuke twice it shouldn't be that hard for you guys either.

React with 😂 if you have a skill issue.

[rich tiger]

Guys I was being dead serious btw, don't mind the emojis I put in the message.
You're too whiney about this damn game. It plays good, it's fun, the nukes are not OP anymore. STOP IT.
Maybe give the light 10hp more, and some useful utilities for the team. But if you play light and you complain about being oneshotted.. well.. change class and stop crying ffs. You have too much time on your hands, go do something else instead of constantly complaining on this damn server cmon

[neon rune]

ranked should be within your ranked bracket, period. bronze should play with bronze, silver should play with silver, etc. that's how it works in literally every single other competitive shooter and there's zero reason that shouldn't be how it works in finals. pretty braindead design choice having regular ass sbmm in ranked.

[vestal crow]

I wish there was more than two binding groups, IE main binding and alt. For instance I usually jump with both mousewheels (up and down) and my "V" (for vault) key. I know I'm weird.

[quick coyote]

E M B A R K R E M O V E N U K E S

[spark girder]

Absolutlety nothing should one shot a heavy in this game.

2 c4 should do the same max damage as 1. Just like 2 gas mines in the same spot don’t do double damage.

[vernal void]

Yeah no worries we all get like that sometimes. And it is important to remind the devs that there are issues and specifically where they are. That way they can eventually fix them. But just screaming out „devs are lazy“ or „they don‘t do their job“ like alot of people are doing doesn‘t help anyone. And it is really something that triggers me

[urban cloak]

they need to nerf me

[eager dagger]

My mic drops on its own when I'm talking about the game

[foggy orbit]

Balance Changes I'd like to see for Light Build in Season 2

• Grappling Hook

• Increase max charges from 1 -> 2

• Increase air control while grappling.

• Cloaking Device

• Decrease cloak sound when crouch walking.

• M11

• Increase close range damage from 16 -> 20

• LH1

• Attach a clean optic.

• Throwing Knives

• Increase headshot multiplier from 1.5x -> 2x

• Allow the secondary attack to be held.

• Remove the accuracy penalty when strafing or airborne.

• Dagger

• Allow the secondary attack to be charged the same way it was in Open Beta.

• Extend the backstab hitbox to allow backstabbing enemies which are sliding or jumping.

• V9S

• Reduce magazine from 20 -> 14

• Increase range back to Open Beta value.

• Glitch Grenade

• Explodes on impact

• Reduce effect duration from 10s -> 7s

• Smoke Grenade

• Now conceals/cleanses you and your team from all forms of detection (sonar grenade, recon senses, tracking dart etc...)

• Motion Sensor

• Increase duration of detected enemies from 1s -> 2s

• Thermal Vision

• When eliminated by a player using thermal vision, add the thermal vision icon in the kill feed to explain jarring deaths and solve potential confusion.

[quick coyote]

Are you guys still on about nukes?

[dense fjord]

i’ve seen heavy’s hide the nuke with their body and use bounce pad tech to get sent pretty far and drop it… just say you don’t play in good lobbies people that want to cheese hard will always find a way . regardless how you feel about nukes 1 shots have no place in this game.

[severe wave]

JUST have better position. NUKES are not a problem. Get better dude. Skill issue. Honestly your own fault just counter the nukes its so easy. People who constantly say that stuff lost all their brain cells lmao no arguments just yapping haha

[smoky gust]

what if we turn nukes around 180°?
make nukes move in a 100% straight line (until they hit something) but at a snails pace

you cant kill someone half a mile away in 1 second anymore
instead its a very slow moving bubble of death that's easy to avoid but forces enemies to move out of the way and acts as area denial

that way nukes will only eliminate players that didn't see or hear the nuke approach it in the 10 seconds it took to fly towards them or failed to move out of the way while in an open fight

but we would also need to change something about the close range one-shots, since decreased speed doesn't matter when they're in your face
perhaps make the c4 only charge up once its thrown, so that you have about 2 seconds to move away?

[sage blade]

Game feedback? Three words=. Game is good

[nocturne birch]

When is the anti-cheat gonna go strong?? tired of aimbotters

[acoustic grail]

Probably already been suggested but more use for VR's would be nice, I've been full up on them forever after buying all that I could with them.

[faint sundial]

Pyros feel so much different now and I have no idea why. If I get set on fire I burn for what feels like an eternity, but I’ve direct impacted people with pyros and it’s gone in an instant. They also don’t feel like they do as much damage now, especially with direct impacts. The radius also feels smaller but I don’t recall their being any changes

I’m also having a lot of issues with getting killed after already running around a corner or behind an object. My ping is fine so idk if it’s a server tick rate issue or something else hitbox related.

Explosive tanks are so inconsistent, sometimes I’ll send one flying and it blows up at the slightest touch, and other times I make it hit exactly where I want and then it bounces off and explodes way above the map

Also PLEASE make it so you can defib through your own team’s dome shield. I can’t tell you how many times I’ve had a downed teammate’s pawn just inside or just outside of a dome and my defib doesn’t work if the dome is between us. I don’t think I should have to grab the pawn and move it in or leave the bubble in order to

I’m also having a lot of recurring issues of not hearing enemy footsteps that are coming right up behind me, namely with light and heavy builds that are running melee weapons. I’ve had numerous times where I’m hiding to recover or am reviving a teammate just to get knifed, stabbed or clobbered without any warning. Yet my own teammate footsteps often fool me into thinking an enemy is nearby.

[zinc haven]

well balanced, well put. useful feedback by a contestant that put in the hours. the feedback you wish to see 🧤

[glossy glacier]

FCAR SKINS WHEN? I GOT MONEY TO SPEND YOU WANT MY MONEY RIGHT GIVE ME FCAR SKINS

[paper hare]

Focus on fun rather than how viable something is for competitive. Nothing has ever improved by listening to competitive players.

[sage blade]

I aint readin all’at🗣️

[open summit]

Would love to see a limited time game mode that you can mix other passives with light medium heavy, imagine a heavy with a dash lol

[prisma ledge]

Can you fuck off with spawning me into an enemy team thanks alot ...
Lost the game because of this...

[quick coyote]

R E M O V E N U K E S , F I X S P A W N P O I N T S P L E A S E . ( literally how has the spawn points like garden on Monaco and inside hospital on Seoul not adjusted yet?? cmon)

[severe wave]

Just work on your position. Skill issue. I can give you tips on your positioning and how to counter the spawning on enemies. Just get better bro. Spawning isnt the problem

[cloud vale]

''lack of positioning''
pov: me shotting the heavy while inside a house on the 3rd floor, he throws a nuke on the 2nd floor and my health goes down to 20 🙂
you probably have a lack you inteligence to say this kind of shit fr. Then you are gonna say ''hur dur, im diamond 1 and you are gold you noob'' like if this means something other than playing hundreds of hours and dont go outside
And just now i saw another post that you did
'' Can you fuck off with spawning me into an enemy team thanks alot ...
Lost the game because of this... ''
Looks like someone needs a positioning course

react with 🤡 if you are the one who thinks nukes dont need a nerf and everybody that does get killed by that is lacking of positioning

[stuck void]

remove weapons from the game
weapons create an atmosphere of violence that may be psychologically harmful to players ||/j||

[gray knot]

more new content, less new skins

[clever charm]

more nuke nerf, less heavies

[silver wing]

RIP FINALS I JUST PLAYED 5 OF THE CRAZIEST CHEATERS IN A ROW AND SPAM REPORTED THEM I STOP PLAYING THIS NOW RIP RIP RIP RIP RIP FINALS RIP BYEBYE IM GONE NO NUKE NERF NO NOTHING BBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBB

[solid bison]

weapons kill

[meager sentinel]

but they did nerf nukes?
might just be luck, i've only been in a cheaters game once

[whole acorn]

can y'all make the events last atleast another week or throughout the whole month for specific holiday events :m i keep missing out on stuff cus persona 3 reload has me in a chokehold

[raven hatch]

BIG Fps drop aftyer the update what changed=

[lusty seal]

brotha what there was a nuke nerf? goofy

[regal beacon]

who getting crash????????????????????wtf done 1 match crash 1 time.

[lone spear]

more crosshair customisation PLEASE

[keen dragon]

Another lackluster update 🙄🙄

[silver wing]

?? u are goofy holy, we don't need a nerf for nukes, they have to be removed u just dont know anything about game balance apparently, its not healthy to any game to oneshot everything and be reliant on such a nonsense mechanic

[inner bough]

add new maps please

[prisma ledge]

Haha looks like I hit a nerve @severe wave @cloud vale . Again if I never experience these problems and you do. Maybe its your playstyle? Also @cloud vale You're arguing with imaginary comments. I never told you my rank as I agree the rank system in this game is mostly grind based. But come on. Some people have the problem you're describing and someone don't. It's almost like there a different aproaches and playstyles and your playstyle is going into heavy terratory. My offer still stand though, I can most likely tell you some mistakes you keep doing since this is a problem that keep reoccurring.

[meager sentinel]

the only crashes i've been getting is my PC bluescreened after June announced something... was insanely funny but they must have fixed that now

[cloud vale]

30 hours of gameplay and living your life probably, because you most likely never played another fps to know that one hit kill things dont work in fps 🙂
No nerve was hit :)) you just dont know a single thing you are talking about

[tame pivot]

if you've only died twice to nukes in your entire playtime you play quick cash/bank it it's that simple

[dreamy gull]

How about this for C4 balance…only allow 1 C4 to be equipped instead of 2…

[severe wave]

That guy is the positioning master dont question him. Just get better. You have huge skill issues my guy😂 @prisma ledge Yh your right. The problem isnt the nuke. Its mostly our playstyle and positioning. You know alot about good positioning because your mother constantly let you fell on the ground when you were a baby. Positioning training amazing ngl

[lusty seal]

A game feedback is that yall should make a separate locker for outfits from the class & loadout so you can have a bunch of preset outfits you made to just switch between.

[toxic shadow]

remove nukes

[regal beacon]

i got the report crash

[obsidian solar]

BUFF THE RIOT SHIELD:
Here's some suggestions, I know all of these together would make the shield pretty strong but even 1 or 2 would be enough to improve it so much!:

• While blocking movement speed should be the same as walking (increasing block movement speed would help a lot in pushing and giving your teammates support)
• Lunge distance (90% of the fight become a chase you can't win, the other classes have ways to block enemies, slow them down or catch up to them, even heavies have RPG to finish people off if they use sledge)
• Increase damage from 84 to 90 (to kill heavies in 4 hits instead of 5)
• Add a charge like attack, to activate it press the attack button while blocking kinda like charge N slam, of course less powerful and without the destruction effect, it would add variety, also all the other melee weapons have two attacks)

IMPROVE MELEE TRACKING:

• Some weapons like the Dagger have an insane lock that is not needed, on the other hand the Riot Shield has a very weak lock, you can't even hit people in your face sometimes. Consider increasing the angle at which the lock works and reduce the lock strenght on the Dagger

FIX THE DAGGER BACKSTAB:

• Backstabs with the Dagger are the most incosistent thing I've ever seen, a lot times either nothing happens or it's not backstab even though you're right behind them and other times it is when you're literally in front of them.
• Increase the backstab hitboxes because the latency of the servers causes this problems
• Make it so you can hold the backstab and it's not a forced animation, revert it like it was in the Open Beta

[sage blade]

I aint readin allat

[prisma ledge]

@cloud vale I said 30 hours as a medium main 🙂 People kept whining and telling me how skill based medium is so I had to change and see for myself. Mediums are op. Heavies can't do shit if you keep a distance or use the right tools in close combat. @tame pivot Look another medium player who doesn't know how to play and makes up information to fit his narrative. Ever wondered if you're not good enough? I'm trying to help you here. @severe wave I never said I was position master, i'm just saying your placement suck huge ass.

[open nebula]

Imagine arguing in a Discord feedback channel.

[snow sandal]

Xdddd

[tame gate]

does embark actually listen to the game feedback channel?

[tame pivot]

You've said yourself you have 30 hours in this game, you have barely unlocked ranked. I have double your playtime and I barely touch the game, you're not in a position to tell people they're bad

[modest sigil]

Improve crosshair customization please

[cloud vale]

dont argue he's the goat, you just need to keep distance all the time

[quasi fiber]

Yeah but my guess is they are gearing up for season 2 launch their patches have been lackluster lately

[sinful gazelle]

They usually do one big update follow by a small one then a big one then a small one. Repeated. And yeah proby setting up for season 2 and they do. They do listen to feedback. If Taidie have read feedback and read the patches. Stuff are been added bc of feedback

[hazy pollen]

We had bugs in ranked: 1. Cashbox stuck on the sky, all teams fought for 1 cashbox, 2. Second cashout station disappeared from map

[cunning dagger]

Please do something about the leavers.
Game is super boring when you have incomplete team and it's just waste of time, effort and points.
Give us an option to leave the game if there someone has already left and no negative rating for the match

[prisma ledge]

@cloud vale I'm still not calling myself a god. I'm calling you shit. I imagine you believe I'm a god though since you can't comprehend the idea of distance management, placement and using utilities. @tame pivot if I didn't make it clear it is as a pure medium main. If you want i can send you a screenshot regarding my rank since you think I just unlocked it. But as previously stated i don't believe in this rank system.

[scenic wing]

Love the game but havent played in a while solely due to 0 m&k support on console and havent seen any mention of it from devs so im assuming its not a huge priority

[empty musk]

likely this. still a great game. considering its only less than 3 months old its done well but there is alot of potential and devs have said theyre committed. it will get better and more refined. lets not forget this launched and performance and balance was generally good compared to your modern warfare 3s and the like

[tame pivot]

Do it idc tho, you're full of shit you haven't died to nukes twice in your entire playtime you're just a troll 🤣

@prisma ledge actually don't just post your rank post your entire stats if you're that good

[tight musk]

might be a harder implementation of adding m&k support if console also gets some level of aim assist. would be majorly scuffed if they don't do it correctly

[open summit]

I just wanted to thank the devs for making the MnK feel so F** good in this game, but please for the life of me make the crosshair static and never move

[prisma ledge]

So just ignore everything and make up facts to fit your narrative and tell me i'm full of shit. Who's the troll? Also you're too old for utilizing emojis in your text or to young for the game. I would guess the latter since you don't understand your role.

Send me a dm and I'll respond with proof next time I go online.

[quasi fiber]

Oh for sure, I've been following this game since embarks creation my comment is not mean to sound angry I couldn't be more happy with how embark has been handling this game I'm very excited to see where this game goes. I think the big issue is the identity crisis between casual and competitive I'm excited to see what they do. I really just want to see ranked reworked in season 2

[tame pivot]

I'm not ignoring anything, all you've done is said people are shit and make the claim that you've died twice to nuke like that's believable when the release state of nukes was a 10m deathball that happened every single fight

Drop your stats in media chat and tag me

[empty musk]

not at all, i agree with you. the only thing keeping me off ranked is the ridiculous cheating. i play casual alot but yeah the ranked situation needs work and im sure they have good solutions to most problems. thats the entire point of us playing and giving feedback, at least the reasonable bunch of us. and just as reminder this is a free game. you get far worse quality and performance and zero dev feedback or care from mw3 and etc and you pay for that privelege. lets all be nice to embark

[spark girder]

It takes a special breed to refuse to play a console game on controller rather than just buy a PC

[scenic wing]

I fucked my wrist up a long time ago and ever since havent been able to play fast paced games with controller anymore if i could i would but go off king

[pseudo horizon]

ADD 4v4 and 5v5 and buff snipers!!!

[supple tiger]

Imo they should add more ranks like R6 does, it's just too broad rn and doesn't really portray a person's skill level. maybe like 3 more teirs

[thorn elbow]

remove vegas and skyway from ranked rotation

[carmine warren]

I love the gyro aiming, but it's intolerable with the sniper. My gyro feels like 5x more sensitive when ADS'd. <@&1012034066876473384> is this on the dev team's radar?

[prisma ledge]

You know, I sent you a dm. Why don't you answer me there and I'll share it directly with you? Well atleast you understood my point regarding the emojies. So something is making its way through that thick skull of yours.
@tame pivot

[violet elbow]

The second someone in here argues against the objective strength of the heavy class you should just instantly understand that they arent good at the game, actual good player meta and regular player meta is reversed, people die to Light because they are away from their team and cant strafe/hipfire out of stun gun and instantly call Light broken while saying shit like "Ive only died to nukes twice" which is just a self report about how they dont even play in lobbies where people are aware nukes exist, anyone who argues that Heavy is bad is just an actual cheeseburger and you'd just feed into their napoleon complex

[vale tendon]

GUNS IDEA
I have an idea for the game, since we already bought everything in the weapons store and the vrs is no longer useful, I propose an idea to spend the vrs on xp for the weapons, that is, unlock weapon skins with the vrs since the vrs in a future will stop being useful since we bought everything, in fact I already have everything and the vrs is of no use to me, so I propose that the vrs can be spent on weapon xp and also an idea of ​​adding a new weapon, a crossbow for the character with agility with great damage, the crossbow takes a long time to reload, and a simple bow for the medium one that shoots arrows with a normal speed and takes damage depending on how long I left it stretching the arrow, it will do more damage, for the big guy a new rocket but it is a cannon and it takes too long to reload but it makes everything explode and it can make holes in buildings or houses

[tame pivot]

I accepted your message request I don't need to respond to you 🤡

[rose surge]

These are fire. If only they would listen to the community.

[lofty crypt]

More FCar Skins

[subtle saddle]

Facts these r nice!

[empty musk]

all i want is the purple diamond skin for defibs. spending vrs to boost xp would be nice. almost there

[cloud vale]

.-. like if your opinion matters shit to me rlly, i play against top 500 every match and i get killed by their nukes, if they are using, probably it is strong, if you dont understand that, you are probably as bad or worst than me. Note, im a mere plat 4 from SA trying to play the game. dont respond to my message pls, you are embarassing yourself.

[late basin]

More gold skins 🙂
Also, I wish there was a gun camo system like in CoD. I absolutely love the grind of it, it gives you longterm goals, it gives you immediate playstyle goals. It adds a lot to the game.

[prisma ledge]

@violet elbow Still not a heavy player. Medium are op, why would I play anything else? @tame pivot I know you're just a kid but don't accept my request right after I called you out and then start talking smack. @cloud vale I'm just trying to help man. Give you some reflective thoughs. Since you clearly don't know what you're doing and telling you how to improve doesn't seem to work. Wasn't you the guy who talked about how ranked doesn't matter? Why are you telling me who you're playing with.

[quick coyote]

So when are you guys going to do something about the blatant cheating in this game?

[tame pivot]

Brother I accepted your request before you ''called me out'' I simply didn't respond to you, for someone who's calling others kids you are very susceptible 🤣

[outer jetty]

Reposting my gamemode ideas.

- Gamemode Ideas:

[Main]:
Bounty Hunters -         [4 Teams, 3v3v3v3]
Hide And Seekers -       [2 Teams, 6v6]
Sponsors Wars -          [4 Teams, 3v3v3v3]
Escort -                 [2 Teams, 6v6]
Bank Bandits -           [2 Teams, 6v6]

[Other]:
Bomb Rush -              [3 Teams, 3v3v3]

If you interested of the details of all gamemodes. Free to DM me to have the Text file. [Examples: Objectives, Reasons]

[cloud vale]

i understand what are you trying to do, but a no sense hability able to kill you instantly ins't okay in the game, it is toxic af. the best way to deal with it is a nerf, i already keep distance as much as possible, but when a heavy spawns close he gets a cannister, what am i supposed to do? i need to cash out... i cant keep distance for ever.
i never said how you are supposed to play the game, didnt say at any point of the discussion that you MUST play heavy, im a medium too. but its frustating af to get killed by a no sense gadget

[prisma ledge]

@tame pivot I'm not your brother kid and that's a lie. Maybe stop using emojies and I'll believe you're older than 12 aswell. @cloud vale I do understand you frustation but there are other abilities that makes medium players way more intolerable. You can effectively get godmode with aps turrets when going against grenade launchers. You can also use the healingbeam to give others god mode against flamethrowers.

[indigo ember]

Please add something where you can spend your vrs on if you have every weapons Gadgets and specialization

[tame pivot]

Brother calm down it's not that serious and no it ain't a lie take a chill pill 🤣 You should stop calling other people kids when you can barely act above the maturity of a 12 year old 🤡

[glass fjord]

Give me a "try on mode" to come up with different outfits. More than just a single item at a time. If there was a "cart" with a "total cost" and "purchase all" button, that would be extra dope.

[tough shadow]

hello

[verbal plinth]

allow kbm to console
new game modes
new guns

[autumn iris]

pretty sure they don't intend of giving kbm to console considering they removed it and called it a bug/unintended feature.

Yes to the other stuff, though. It'll come in time 👍

[outer jetty]

Glitch Grenade

• Explodes on impact
• Reduce effect duration from 10s -> 7s

Your other ideas are perfect and really nice, But i hate the Glitch Grenade. The idea of Explodes on Impact, Would be TO ANNOYING, For players have to be (Sorry for my words) disabled for NOT knowing that light class has Glitch Grenade, and You have no chance to react against the Glitch Grenade. It doesn't matter if you nerf it by effect duration, It just annoying. If you played against it. And you don't have a chance to react. It Would create a Meta for Light.

Good enough that the devs/balancing devs, Trying to remove meta loadouts.
In-short:

• No Reaction time to escape.
• Disabled without noticing after hearing a grenade landing. (Imagine Medium's Grenade Launcher is shooting you and you don't know where he shoots you from, Above or Blow or From a far) [Can be fixed by adding sounds]

Cloaking Device

• Decrease cloak sound when crouch walking.

No. Just No. Good enough that when light isn't moving is OP to escape from anything.

[winter abyss]

I just wanna add that I reallllllly appreciate the rank system, but as a average player who is not that good but play's a lot. It's more rewarding to grind for the rank and still feel as though I've earned it rather than being a sweat who wants to be better than everyone also the fact that I'm able to get a chance to go up against sweats really bring a lot more enjoyment when I knock them out as a average player. Truly I'm grateful for this game and creator's please keep it up :]]]]]]]]

[prisma ledge]

I know it's not serious I'm having an online conversation with a kid in a discord channel cuz he doesn't want to move it into dm.

[subtle saddle]

PUH LEEEEZ MOVE INTO A DM 🙏

[tame pivot]

No need to move into dms unless you're ashamed or something

[open summit]

Can we actually get more rewards for ranked? Like clothing, charms for each rank from bronze to diamond

[molten moth]

Well, having 10 hours in the game I can see some improvements that the competitors have, for example, statistics table: the statistics do not come from all the other members of the groups, you cannot see the composition of the groups, weapons and extras. There is also no battle history where you can see the statistics of past games. This seems like something small but it is huge so that the players understand what the meta and the compositions are, if not how they will know why they won the last game, perhaps because they did not aim well, but more possibly it is the composition of the team.

[glad relic]

Probably been mentioned but a capture the flag in the spirit of quick cash could be cool. Cash box instead of flag, two cashouts on each side. Would probably need to have some map adjustments for it and a shorter respawn timer

[prisma ledge]

Only thing I'm ashamed of is your lack of situational awareness. Blaming the game instead of thinking what you can do different.

[short dagger]

they should add katana

[glass fjord]

easiest call ever

[tame pivot]

yes dude I'm sure the pro scrims players also lacked situational awareness when they decided to ban nukes in their games 🤡

[uneven rampart]

NEW MAP IDEA

The Art Gallery

It will be a destructable huuge art gallery with many pieces of art such as The Nuke, and the creation of me, @radiant imp & @quick coyote : THE SUPER NUKE

Just screen shots and gifs of our super nukes dotted around the galleria. Maybe even a Mall!

[quick coyote]

I approve of this

[molten moth]

I understand that most of the comments are game modes that the game urgently needs but I don't think the developers want to segregate the small community because on Steam we are 20k. I don't know how many there are on console but I don't think there are more than 100k active players at any time. I personally would improve small things like statistics and balance to make the community bigger, maybe a free for all or some mode for solos. I think it would increase the audience because to be objective the game is focused on having 2 friends with the game They want to play at the same time as you. Because communication is key to winning and in my opinion it is also the most fun aspect. In other words, polish the current content and make a mode for solo playes

[prisma ledge]

I think your statement is wrong. Also you're not a pro player.

[abstract patio]

THE INTRO IN THIS UPDATE GAVE ME CHILLS AND GOOSEBUMPS, shoutout the animation team for that CREEPY intro. We got a bit more LORE and love it

[lime mirage]

i just got BANNED for NOOOTT leaving for the 5th time !!!!!!! anyy fixs ????

[violet elbow]

bro talking about a potential glitch nade meta like its not the only thing keeping light on life support rn

@outer jetty there is a full on developed meta already and its unavoidable, the core issue rn is that Light is just barely part of said meta

[prisma vault]

This is a genuine question because I've seen this mentioned before, what is meant by "banning nukes in games". How is this a thing? I don't understand lol I'm sorry

[outer jetty]

But broo, Meta isn't the thing we need in Finals now. Meta just makes the game boring. No need meta things up.

@violet elbow , Yea i know, But the idea of meta is killing the game more. But the Devs know about it. But I know Light needs a little buffing here and there but he just needs new weapons and new gadgets. To make light class more uniqueness. Who knows what ideas the Devs will take or make up.

[rich fox]

it means, you smell

[tame pivot]

no you read it right, the best players thought nukes were so broken they explicitly banned anyone from using them in their games. It remains the only thing to be banned next to playing with more than one heavy

@prisma vault they coordinate in discord to queue at the same time to fill up the majority/an entire server and agree to not use nukes while in those games

[rough acorn]

REMOVE NUKE

[uneven rampart]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1009830578545246213/1209946687901012058/Photoroom-20240221_193602.png?ex=65e8c5aa&is=65d650aa&hm=6045da19bd2f8b997439f03d4485da64603309c3ef27eb00633012041b381c1a&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=349&height=494

New cosmetic item : The Snukefinity Nukelet. It's a glove for heavy that beeps and flashes.

[unreal kelp]

Bring our creation to life.

[frank oracle]

[quick coyote]

what would anyone with experiance in the game say is the best contestent and with what wepon and ability

[stray rampart]

We worked super hard on this! Bring it to life 💚

[hollow gazelle]

I think an PEM grenade is necessary, which destroys mines, C4 and some deployables. Since there are 4 mele builds. That it cannot destroy the mines without dying in the attempt.

[radiant imp]

Update

[quick coyote]

SNUKE FTW!!!

[prisma ledge]

That's not addressing you statement. You said ironically that the pros lack situational awareness. I responded with your statement is false. Also you're not a pro player so it's different. I can see it being an obstacle in the pro leagues, just not in casual or ranked.

[mellow linden]

Hey, sorry to interrupt, is it my problem or server problem that me and my friends can’t join each others party. Any help is great. Thank you

[clear trout]

are you on different platforms?

[azure sorrel]

no

[vocal shadow]

plot twist. the glove itself is actually a snuke and it wears little gauntlet rings

[tame pivot]

I never said pros lack situational awareness you just lack the ability to understand sarcasm. Pros banning nukes just shows that your narrative that anyone who has issues with nukes ''lack situational awareness'' is just utter bullshit

[opaque anvil]

the only way to win this game is be annoying and be triple medium spamming granade launcher healing beam

[uneven rampart]

Even Embark Themselves are afraid of our creation.

[light fox]

Seeing below average players say things like this makes me fear for this game's lifespan

[earnest ermine]

ANOTHER COMMON W FOR THE GRENADE LAUNCHER MAINS

[quick coyote]

focus is my fave ability 😍

[late basin]

This game needs replays

[verbal bloom]

I Second this.

[prisma ledge]

But I didn't say the pros lacked situational awerness I said you. Aslo here is the comment where you said pros lack it ironically.

[dark mauve]

Sick Camo for the fcar

[autumn iris]

https://tenor.com/view/stop-fighting-breaking-up-a-fight-gif-24247283

[severe crescent]

This ranked system is sooooooooo baad

[open summit]

Final kill cam of the match

[tame pivot]

No one said pros lacked situational awarness and that's the point, if situational awareness isn't an issue/they aren't bad at the game and they still ban nukes, why do you keep claiming that the reason people hate nukes is because of their lack of ''situational awarness'' or they're just bad?

[proud bramble]

yes it’s just play to rank up, there needs to be a more ‘skill involved’ system

[hard badger]

Bros are you still really discussing with eachother about the same thing from an hour ago? You call everyone kid but if youre really mature you should just allow people to have different opinions lol

[tropic viper]

More game modes

Also custom /private match for sandbox with friends or versus friends in game modes

[storm hull]

add katana c:

[opaque anvil]

i think bro might use triple medium

[light fox]

I don't lol, I'm just scared that you think triple nade launcher is strong 💀

[dark mauve]

I hate these bundles.

[open summit]

💣 New gadget: liquid slime grenade, when walking through it your movement will slow down by 90% and if you stop sprinting you get stuck for 1 second ☑️

[prisma ledge]

Yeah but you're not playing against pros are you. If you're having such a bad time against nukes I can only assume you're just not that good. @hard badger Sorry mate not my fault he doesn't want continue this in the dms.

[queen cloud]

Launcher is op NGL. But triple cl40 team🤣. Prob the easiest team comb to beat, that and triple light 🤣

[gusty dove]

triple medium with turret and instant rez is not fun to go against.. they had good team utility distribution, anti grenade gadget on 2 of them, a load of mines and nades, it was a nightmare to capture that point

[tame pivot]

brother pros or not with a nuke it literally doesn't even matter you get your ass one shotted, nukes aren't that bad with the most recent nerf, still shouldn't one shot tho. anyway claiming that you've died twice to nukes is an obvious lie that anyone with a brain can see through

[hard badger]

Exactly he is just bluffing

[quick coyote]

yes, yes we do. if you play ranked you will run into the pros all the time. they are the ones that play this game the most. I run into plenty of top 1000 players every night. I think you are the one here thats just "not that good" if you cant understand the simple fact that nukes in this game are over powered. nothing else in the game can delete an entire team in one shot. im diamond with over 200 hours played (not that rank really means anything atm but it shows that im actually playing the game and not just dicking around in normals)

[subtle saddle]

they STILL GOIN?!?!?

imagine coming back EVERY 15 MINUTES to argue with someone in a games feedback channel bwaahahaaha

[coral hedge]

Awesome updates devs! The best multi-player game out there right now

[zinc sand]

fcar, defib, and it's many, many, many many many MANY gadgets
the gadgets arent itself that op (except gas mines and sonar grenades), its the fact that medium has a monopoly on all gadgets
want info on the other team/recon? go medium
want defense? go medium
want mobility? go medium
want to invalidate kills? go medium
want to make heavy even more dominant? go medium
want even MORE mobility AND light defense? go medium

medium has too many gadgets and a far too powerful specialization

[swift skiff]

Would be crazy good if they rebooted the open beta twitch drops AGAIN... please Embark I missed it altough I played back then

[prisma ledge]

Its not though. Just because it doesn't fit your narrative doesn't mean its true though.
@quick coyote Same bro i'm rank 1 diamond aswell, with a good amount of hours behind it. Nukes aren't op just, don't move like a moron. @subtle saddle I will come back and argue cuz I don't want this game to become more medium domintated heavies are the only other viable class right now. The problem is that medium players make up the majority so alot of them will talk negative towards other classes.

[sour bane]

also, the more mediums you have on a team, the better that team is. cuz you get more of the great utility. especially defib. there's a reason you see so many triple medium teams with fcars and defib. it's also by far the easiest class to play.

the meta in ranked is insanely stale due to this.

[tame pivot]

It's an obvious lie unless you haven't touched ranked for the first 3 week of it because nukes was literally all ranked was. If you can't see how heavies can dominate without one shotting nukes you have actual skill issues

[hard badger]

I am light player and its a pain in ss those nukes especially if you have so few health. Sure you can dodge it but not always. I bet if youre a good heavy player you can 5 of 10 times get a good hit

[quick coyote]

Y'all should save your breath. Seriously. It doesn't look like the devs will be doing anymore major balance changes and there isn't much left to salvage anyway. Time to move on

[pseudo skiff]

Lol, you out here acting like game is over and nobody should care and move on while he actively chats in the games discord

[quick coyote]

then the heavy guy the the hammer comes in and wipes the team

[quick coyote]

"nukes arent op, just dont move like a moron" yeah okay buddy. we get it, nukes are your crutch just like medium is mine. my issue with you is that you think your opinion somehow holds more weight just because you think medium is op. both can be true. stop being ignorant. people like you and the stubborn devs are the reason why people arent opening the game back up anymore. all my irl friends wont play this game anymore because of how frustrating it is for them to deal with cheesy shit like that. I was very vocal about how op recon was before they nerfed it even tho I was abusing it too. one shot mechanics are not healthy for a game like this

okay at least you admitted you are being willfully ignorant due to your frustration with medium. its either I play broken medium or broken heavy or I can lose with light. like cmon this is a GAME FEEDBACK CHAT

[prisma ledge]

So your point is that because I don't get one tapped by heavies I'm a bad player? I think you got it backwards kid. @hard badger Yeah I can agree with your point, but I would rather blame the light class for beeing to weak. @quick coyote Nah man I will not when people complain about one ability that belongs to another class while simultaneously playing a broken class themselves they deserve to hear it.

[weak star]

vault got stuck under the ground while me and another team were tied, stayed until the end and got second place…

[uneven rampart]

Triple Snukes

[tame pivot]

no my point is if you can't see how heavy is good without nukes one shotting you're bad

[clear trout]

please for the love of god make it so that aps doesnt eat grenade launcher rounds being able to disable someones primary is ridiculous

[hard badger]

How many health does a medium normally have when he gets nuked?

[dense fjord]

even is stroking himself hard… there’s a reason people don’t like nukes and since your diamond 1 you obviously played for a decent amount. How can you not see that 1 shots are not healthy for the game. What class do you main? @prisma ledge Also it’s not possible to have only been killed twice by them 💀💀 “”pro”” streamers and players have literally games of just heavy abusing it pre nerf and after nerf there’s still some of them going around lmao

[quick coyote]

Yeah, pretty much lol. Plus there isn't much real discourse here, it's just the same people complaining about nukes (you know who you are), sbmm, and mnk support on Xbox

[frank oracle]

It's natural decline,palworld lost 200mil user haha

[prisma ledge]

@tame pivot I know heavies can dominate without nukes. You just shouldn't complain while simultaneously playing the most broken class in the game with every counter to both the nuke and everything else. If you take away more utilities from other clasess because you can't handle your placement we're gonna end up with a pure medium based game. I get that pros want to eliminate nukes, cuz they play against people who knows what they are doing. The average heavy player does not @dense fjord Medium.

[pure ore]

that's the longest argument of heavy vs medium I've ver seen. Guys, both are unhealthy for the game. Medium gets every supporting item ever on top of the best guns in the game. Heavy has too much burst damage on top of nukes. Both are pretty much cringe.

[tame pivot]

calling medium the most broken class while heavy has 1.4k hp of shield the RPG, nukes and the 2 best guns in the game is a farce but doesn't surprise me coming from someone as dull as you, countering medium is easy you shoot at them with your guns something you seem to have issue with

[open summit]

Actually 600mil 😳

[dense fjord]

i’m top 250 in ow and high ranked in other games so my KD is pretty high. i get good players. i can dm clips and stats if you want i’d like for you to do the same since you chat as if you’re a good player and calling me brain dead for not moving out the way. The average player should not be able to wipe an entire team that is better than them because they shot a red rocket and popped it… it’s not good game design and you haven’t given a valid argument other then “i don’t die lol” @prisma ledge

[quick coyote]

If you wanna go down with the ship don't let me stop you 🤷

[prisma ledge]

Still a medium main kid. How could I not?
The fcar and ak is better if you don't stomp into the heavies face. I wouldn't expect you to understand though since that's the whole problem of your playstyle, based on your argumentation of course.
The shield hasn't been at 1.4 k hp since launch.
Aps turrets cancel out both the nuke and rpg.
You get wallhack with recon.
You give team8s god mode against flamethrowers withthe healingbeam.
You get godmode yourself with aps turrets against grenade launcher.
You get an extra team8 with the guardian turret. It can basicly kill the light players on its own.
You get more mobility than light class.
@dense fjord Well the average player runs into the nuke so yeah he kinda deserve it.

[junior crater]

I already miss the Valentine-themed menu and music. It had that feel-good vibe

[tame pivot]

The FCAR has higher TTK vs heavy than the Lewis has VS medium womp womp your argument is based on ''feelings'' not actual facts
There are 2 shields 1.1k + 300hp ( I think it's even 400hp ) is 1.4k
The APS radius is shit camping in it make it easy for anyone to get space on you
No one with a brain runs recon anymore
No one with a brain runs flamethrower since the beta nerf
No one with a brain has ever ran the grenade launcher
The guardian turret is a meme, you're really grasping at straws
Ok the mobility is good
You really don't even know what you're talking about when you don't even mention the best gadget the medium class has, I'll let you guess which one it is

[sinful atlas]

Please add overtime when someone is actively stealing. There is no point as it is now to contest an objective that is about to expire.

[open summit]

Instead of nerfing medium, buff other roles cuz medium is balanced and in perfect spot there is no need to change it

[rotund stag]

is there a plan for the in game currency? if not then colour variations of the clothes given during the level progression would be good way to spend them once you topped out(bought all the additional gadgets/guns). maybe level locking them as well so to add a feeling of progression

[carmine warren]

Love this idea so much

[quick coyote]

I will say though, and I don't think we talk about this enough, but I actually completely blame the devs for their poor leadership. No roadmap, no vision post launch, no forward communication, just a series of reactive "balance changes" and nothing else.

Whether this game does live or die they need to get their shit together.

[frank oracle]

I want to new mode , solo mode or 4vs4,5vs5

[prisma ledge]

The fcar and ak has better recoil you're still not supposed to be in the heavys face. This is your main issue i've been addressing throughout this conversation. Get a better placement.
You can move and get highground or other advantages while the heavyshield is up or just whipe it with one ak mag. Also if you hit him first he can't take it down cuz then you just kill him before he gets his gun back up.
So you're making absolute statements for the whole community now? That's alot of people you know.
You don't know what you're talking about when gadgets can cancel out entire weapons, while there are no secondary options to work around those gadgets.

[severe wave]

You guys still argue😂

[quick coyote]

I had this idea where we could use an in game currency in tournament modes to bet on which team will qualify or not. then you can use the currency to either keep betting or cash it out for skin re-colors

[signal root]

Straight up, l thought the game was buggy on release when the timer didn’t pause on steal. I think it’s intentional but goodness, so used to timers freezing if the objective is being played

[lone plinth]

Remove or nerf Sandstorm weather effect. That is all.

[wispy frigate]

Remove Sandstorm las Vegas

[stable lagoon]

Medium being overpicked is not because they're overpowered, it’s just that they have significantly more utility than other classes esp. Light, for example a medium with zipline/jumppad/both will easily surpass a light with Cloak in terms of pure verticality, and best of all he can share it with his whole team and even the enemies. Even in terms of fortification, with the mines and turrets Medium can sometimes even surpass Heavy. There's a reason why hackers and aimbots usually play Medium instead of other classes.

In short, let other classes have some of the gears that Medium has, even if as a weaker version (like Light's puny, single breaching charge vs. Heavy's double C4)

Also please give Heavy more weapons, his Lewis Gun is the only viable long-range weapon for him, because MGL32 and M60 are trash in all range compared to it

[tame pivot]

If you can't control the recoil on the lewis you have skill issues, and that's the fun part about playing heavy, when you get them out of position they use their shield and get out without any problem. I'm done with you. Don't forget to post your stats in the media chat channel so that everyone can see how good you are

Also about the APS and grenade launcher simply shooting outside the radius destroys it that's how you deal with it

[violet vigil]

is this fun to play against?

[verbal wharf]

That's what goo gun does?

[prisma ledge]

Never agreed to that and I don't take orders from kids. I'll send you a picture of my rank. That's what your whole point was about. That I hadn't played the game enough
Ofcourse you can control the recoil on the lewisgun, you can even use aim straifing. Its just easier to do with a fcar. Takes no time to set up and you can shoot while moving and from a further distance. Heavies also have alot bigger hitboxes.
You can't use the heavy grenade launcher on walls you moron, they bounce off. Also it can be pretty hard to land the grenades right outside the circle since they slide. Specially when a medium is standing on the turret blasting your face.

[glacial knot]

People complaining about everythink . Drop turret on the ground keep little bit distance and start shooting you re gonna see how fast you get him down. Put mine close to the jump pad. He was fast using his gadget you should also learn to play fast.

[hallow ruin]

Light has slow TTK against Heavy and Medium (like SIGNIFICANTLY slower) so both other clases can wipe him with a few shots
Plus Light have almost none team utility that can be easily used
Plus he cant survive a lot.
This all makes him useless.

Medium has everything:
Defense power, Mobility (horizontal and vertical) for the team and self, Healing and Revives, Granades for pushing, FCAR which literally is a laser beam that can wipe out anything at any given distance, Plus solid amount of hp.
Thats why MEDIUM is the most overpowered.

Heavy is the only well balanced guy here (just some minor adjustments to weapon damage(buffs and nerfs) needed)

Its time to distribute some of the team based utility to other clases
And finally give some love to light so he could be viable.

[shrewd vine]

You could cherry pick thousands of clips from any good player using any weapon and doing well with it, and present that as being the norm. This clip means nothing.

[stable lagoon]

Increase kill rewards and add teamwipe bonus to the killing player's team for each kill.

That way the 3rd party will actually focus on the winning team instead of getting busy with the losing team and cost the match for both of them. Also Lights will actually be useful since kills mean something.

[tame pivot]

Oh gee I wonder why you won't show your stats, surely it isn't because you aren't as good as you pretend to be while telling everyone to get good 🤣 But whatever keep your secrets and have a good day

[violet vigil]

certainly not the norm. but is it fun to play against?

[lone plinth]

Need a Salt channel so I can vent out my anger. I just saw 2 enemy teams actively working together in Tournament to fuck us over even though we were winning

[sleek dove]

I use goo gun and run it defensively, not offensively with the flamethrower. you have to be a very good player to effectively run it like that, and I've seen possibly 1 player ever use it like that. Whether or not it's fun to play against, there are much bigger problems that should be fixed first. nukes arent fun to play against, taser isnt fun to play against, recon senses isnt fun to play against, but those are run in almost 100% of games

[prisma ledge]

Nah man, I'll share everything anywhere if you do. I just don't follow your orders. Specially from people doing the same mistake over and over. Also drop the emojies.

[shrewd vine]

I mean, I don't mind it. Its usually not that hard to take advantageous engagements against a flamethrower. @violet vigil

[sage blade]

Well dont say it here, Its necessarily only for game feedback

[stable lagoon]

I mean, if I got killed like that I'd feel more like "Dang that was a good play" instead of being fussy about it

[quick coyote]

All is fair in love and war

[junior lagoon]

Dear Devs. Please can the continent of Africa have one server, example locations would be Cape Town or Johannesburg (South Africa), there are datacenters in these locations which other games such as Battlefield / Valorant / CS2 / COD / R6S leverage. There is a market in Southern Africa, a lot of players from areas like the Reunion Islands / Mauritius also leverage South African servers, and it's a good location to provide better access to Sub-Saharan Africa. The infrastructure exists and we have large games with servers here to prove it. Please consider players in Southern Africa. The infrastructure exists in South Africa (RSA), we have an AWS datacenter, Azure Datacenter, direct connections to the undersea cables which run to Europe.

[supple tiger]

Bruh that's just called a good play? Who would be mad at that

[strong escarp]

Add 3-second spawn invulnerability to remove spawn-killing tactics (like C4 on spawn).

[solemn crow]

We need new game modes, capture the flag, search and destroy, hard point, anything. This game has endless potential

[rich fox]

haven’t played in like a week or two, and all it took was a single game of quick cash to remember why lol

really hope the meta is switched up next season.

[spark girder]

This dude deserved that entire interaction for picking the loadout he had

[quick coyote]

Hey devs..... You killed your game by making it bbbbooooooorrrriinnnnggg

[lone plinth]

Idea: make the Goo Gun shoot goo in a stream like the Flamethrower, but with more range.

[late basin]

I'd rather fight that than an invis sword weilder any day (but yes, it's annoying) 😄

[rocky pewter]

Assist points doesnot count if you are dead even if you deal some damage before

[quick coyote]

Please add go karts

more SNUKE please!!!

[quick dew]

map suggestion:

CHERNOBYL 1986

[stable lagoon]

Make thermal vision show recent enemy footsteps that fade away very quickly

[twin crest]

lovin the attention to detail in this game, keep up the good work!

[amber fractal]

I love the game but please add Text chat.

Voice chat isn't always the most reliable form of communication. Or hasn't been for me at least; people ingame can't hear me for some reason, yet Discord works just fine.
Pointing at things in the map is good, but sometimes I just can't find the way to express myself to my team this way.

Besides, Text chat has been present in almost every multiplayer game ever. Is there a reason why THE FINALS does not have it?

[coral bough]

I get banned every day!! the servers just wont let me into the game!>#<M!

[dense dagger]

I'm pointing about what you said on the TTK FCAR vs Lewis and it's false.
FCAR kills a Heavy in about 1.44 sec.
For heavy to kill a medium:

• SA1216: ~0.61
• Lewis: ~ 1.08
• M60: ~ 1.18

• 140 damage by RPG.
• 1100 hp with Mesh shield
• 190 damage by c4

[tame pivot]

my bad I got mixed up in words I wanted to say that

[foggy orbit]

Balance Changes I'd like to see for Medium Build in Season 2

• Recon Senses

• Change from an on/off toggle to single use ability.

• Ability instead emits a sonar pulse from the user and highlights enemies for you and your team in a 25m radius for 5 seconds.

• FCAR

• Increase recoil when aiming down sights.

• Decrease hip-fire accuracy.

• Riot Shield

• Increase attack speed drastically.

• Increase melee range.

• Secondary blocking mode should protect the user fully OR allow the user to charge at full speed momentarily.

• Defibrillator

• Reduce the percentage of health restored when revived from a defibrillator from 40% -> 25%

• Gas Mine

• Reduce effect duration from 12s -> 8s

• Explosive Mine

• Reduce maximum damage from 140 -> 100

• Glitch Trap

• Increase effect radius from 5m -> 8m

• Increase proximity detection from 1m -> 3m

[shrewd egret]

nerf c4 dmg

[quick coyote]

Oh even better. Please add quads so we have have 2v2v2v2v2v2 quad races with environmental destruction!!! Money 🤑

Either buff light class for it to be viable and accept that it sucks for newbies in quick cash or rework it. It makes no sense to have 3 classes, one of which, if chosen, gives a clear advantage to enemies when playing against good players.

[solid narwhal]

Add input based matchmaking and a xim/cheat detection rework so we can have kbm on console
Please and thank you.

[foggy ginkgo]

Some of these are just asss

[pseudo horizon]

add clan tags

[late basin]

I wish suggestions had a forum-like thread channel, rather than a feed (as suggestions will get lost, become redundant, and forgotten)

[quick coyote]

I would like to see the devs implement an ig dating sim

[amber fractal]

I agree, but that's a suggestion for this Discord server

please add text chat btw

[thorny hill]

UnusualKatana#6074 - is clearly cheating! it is OVERTLY obvious that they are cheating!!! please stop them! your cheat software is not nearly good enoguh OR you are simply allowing cheaters to play to falsely inflate player base... eitherway, these cheaters are killing the game!

[thorny parcel]

aps turret needs to be clearer that it is activated. Just tried to stop someone with Goo Gun from a steal but aps stopped all my goo balls without any visual indication. I had no idea an aps was there because there was a dome shield blending into it.'

[fiery tartan]

It's really frustrating when someone's on VC and the only way to say "Yes/no" is to look at someone else's ping.
It'd be nice to have more communication wheel options, or to be able to customize it

[vocal owl]

Please fix the counter thingy, it seems to be not visible for most guns i tried it on, most fun is the riot shield were you can see it but u cant read it cus the number field is sideways.

on the CL-40 its just a tiny bit too low, you can see it sometimes but usually not. ill test it on all guns at a later point but it sucks a lot more then the other cool decor stuff cus this thing actually does something i find very neat apart from looking a bit more personal it is a semi practical thing to have on the gun XD but it just doesn't work well cus u cant see it everywhere

[twilit patrol]

Honestly, I would love the option to purchase individual items from bundles without getting the whole thing for 1 item that I like.

[shrewd egret]

tips for embark to make their game better and not die for S2 Launch :
.remove nukes ( can still work on a ''normal prop'' such as a chairs/cube/totems etc.. for the meme and still can inflict x2 98 )
.SR-84 buff from 115 to 125
.rework grappling hook ( for example : either 2 charges of it, or reduce the cooldown twice ) we all know its a weak option compared to cloak or dashes.
.re-add window to roof jumps ( movements is clearly a thing that a big part of the player base love, please stop nerfing them )
.new weapons for each class ( Lights : AK74u / any compact rifle or a Tommy Gun, Mediums : .45 ACP Pistol with a tactical knife that would inflict 50, Heavies : Desert Eagle ( 74 body / 148 head like the R.357 but with 9/12 bullets and a bit more kick )
would also be cool to see a seringe that allow lights to heal themselves for like 70-80hp
.1 or 2 new maps
.reworking Seoul 2023 so the versions without the construction sites are less boring ( could keep the same pads as construction but with an office interior )
.adding 2 different events per round instead of one and make them a bit shorter ( so the total would be the equivalent of x1.5 the duration of current events )
.nerf recon
.reduce a bit the effect of low gravity
.a new game mode could be cool such as a 4v4 or a 5v5 with the same rules as a Tournament Final but with 30.000$ as a goal
.adding 2 more Levels for guns/gadgets but with a lil rework on level 6's amount of XP so that the level 8 could be like around 200.000xp ( 162k is already long af ) for example : lvl 6 98.000xp, lvl 7 156.000xp, lvl 8 194.000xp that comes w/ a silencer for guns
.adding 50 more carreer levels with new unlockable cosmetics
.adding player banners so it can be seen while looking at the group in the lobby, and also during player's intros
.fixing lobby weird things, like wtf? ( cant set someone leader, cant invite people when not leader )
.if a player that u hit a lot that suicide themselves get u the kill

[pale quest]

2x 98 would still insta kill lights and leave med with a fraction of hp so idk if that really fixes it......

I agree with the other ones tbh

@hollow bramble too lazy to wait for cooldown but ofc you wouldn't mind, ur a Heavy main..... And insta kills still aren't okay/fun especially for someone that doesn't take a lot of skill to do.......

[raw ore]

Just came back today after not playing for a few months, and as the obviously best dash-sword player in the game (jk) I must say....
OH YEAHHHH GAME'S FEELING GOOD AGAIN at least in the games I've played. Thanks for making changes to the busted stuff Embark, now please hire actual VAs (I'm available) :3

[hollow bramble]

No issue with this, leaving medium alive with 50 some hp after 2 c4 is a perfectly fine place for it to be in

@pale quest brother I am an advocate for removing nukes completely but given the way the devs r updating their game rn all we can do is hope, but a double c4 strapped nuke unable to kill a medium player is about as balanced as they could make it while it still being worth it. Not to mention, the fcar can 6-shot a light player so why is it an issue if an explosive can kill them lmao

[shrewd egret]

that not my feed back but i agree with this so i shared here for being seen by the devs , 2 X98 still too huge in dmg and need nerf, 90 % of the community are frustrating about dying 80% from nuke ...

[thorny hill]

Here are some more OVERT cheaters!
condone#1798
Kenai#5057

[inner karma]

please please PLEASE make a part of the tutorial for how to use a defib. My heart dies every time I see a new player try to use the defib, give up and just revive the regular way.

[quick coyote]

Sometimes I'll stop and use the regular revive if its safe/not urgent so that way its not on cooldown.

[unborn geyser]

i want a nama tama plushie, not the one from ali express tho i don’t like its arm

[near dew]

Man is going in

[worldly nexus]

Buff the damage slightly on the FCAR the mag size trade off on the ak is just not worth it for extended fights

[thorny hill]

why play the game if it is going to be littered with people who are overtly cheating! when the lobby is averaging 4-6k damage and these fools have 14k damage, 1 death and kills...

[vocal owl]

i had a whole team do that last time, kills on mass, no objective play, just kills...

[split drift]

theres an issue with jump pads and nukes that allows you to nuke a person holding mesh if they have hgh enough speed

[elder pivot]

embark should address this cheating issue. before they lose all the players. 1 way to check is why this person hitting more that alot of headshot per game, and check the report button, does that even working? the system should be suspicious for that.

[hollow bramble]

tell me ur joking

[thorny hill]

exactly! I mean I am legit carrying a team now where one of our team has ZERO combat score AND I have more support score then they have!!! its Fing nuts man!

[opaque mural]

The Finals: black face cosmetic update

[thorny parcel]

Embark remove melee auto aim. That dumb mechanic costed me a finals game because it kept spinning me onto the wrong target.

[maiden tartan]

incredible game - fix lights at high elo and nerf wallhacks

[opaque mural]

https://i.imgur.com/i5zwt03.png

[plush owl]

🇺🇸

[azure flax]

hard disagree but taking out emote cancel is making me scratch my chin a little bit

[sage blade]

Damn

[zealous cosmos]

They should add a Grace period after respawning

[harsh torrent]

They should fix the gold dragon AK skin… it looks like diarrhea sometimes 😭

[light fox]

https://tenor.com/view/jebaited-low-quality-bait-wavy-man-gif-26402013

[worldly shore]

I noticed today when respawning my teamate was killed at the same time I entered the arena and then was taken out to wait for another 20 seconds

[amber sage]

Hey I think the store is bugged. There’s this neon cowboy set that admittedly looks pretty cool, but I’ve noticed the lack of the raygun skin thats in the launch trailer and practice range.
Very important hotfix now plz

[forest cargo]

https://medal.tv/games/the-finals/clips/1Wp8IXY2xLy-bu/rGXjSRiv54Lo?mobilebypass=true turbo cheater in this discord (spectating) @true epoch

[shrewd tundra]

yeah proton works, iv been playing it for like 2 weeks now under arch, for me i had to increase my max map count to what the steamdeck uses so that the game doesnt crash after a couple of hours and using proton experimental to get the latest patches from valve

[steady sierra]

I played it last night on mint. Works great thanks!

[stark valve]

Hi I have a couple suggestions to fix a couple things:
x Can you please add a "Triangle Behaviour" so when we are playing with controller we can prioritize switching to our main gun rather than character trying to pick up the utility in front of them. This is a huge problem when we try to do explosive mine GL tech on medium and sometimes even causes issues while playing behing a barricade while playing heavy.
x Secondly, I would love to be able to see if the players in my team are in a fireteam. " Duo queue ing" or not. This can be implemented by adding a matching symbol next to their gamertags in the screen where we choose our loadout in the game. I think this will basically inform the 3rd player in the party that there is a level of coordination possible. Maybe they can psychologically alter their mindset and try to help the duo or pick complimentary setups.

These are my suggestions thank you for taking your time to read. I love the game and have full trust on the dev team on making this game even better. Keep up the good work. And I would like to say, I would love to see a compound bow added to the light classin some day. But this is my total personal opinion. >.<

[grave tinsel]

buff the fire

[worldly nexus]

I just watched someone noclipping and flying like in battlefield 1 in this game how are the rage hacks getting this bad

[flat adder]

You can’t res if your body gets stuck in zip line

[eternal gorge]

Any and all development of new paid cosmetics should be put on hold until you overhaul your anti-cheat system (at the very least). Else it seems like a spineless & faithless cash grab. Hackers and unbalanced meta are already leading to a massive loss of the player base and there will be nobody to sell skins to if we all quit. Seems like priorities are not what they should be and that's bothersome.

[dense dagger]

Heavy should get a TTK nerf on most of its weapons.
Right now Heavy's TTK weapons are too small compare to Medium/Light Weapons.
Heavy already have gadgets like RPG/C4 for damage and Dome/M Shield/barricade for defense.
FCAR kills a Heavy in about 1.44 sec.
For heavy to kill a medium:

• SA1216: ~0.61
• Lewis: ~ 1.08
• M60: ~ 1.18

• 140 damage by RPG.
• 1100 hp with Mesh shield
• 190 damage by c4

NERF:
SA1216: 45 damage per shot instead of 91 ? (8 shots to kill heavy instead of 4)
Lewis: 22 instead of 25 ? (16 shots instead of 14)
M60: 20 instead of 22 ? (18 shots instead of 16)

It's a slight nerf but enough to make the TTK of these weapons slightly higher than mediums' weapons TTk.

[thorny socket]

A way to set weapon charms as Default so i never have to equip my 1 epic charm to every gun

[oak agate]

Make elevator shafts destructible so a HMM team with flamethrower, dome + wall shields, and APS turrets can't camp it with the cash box the whole match.

[violet vigil]

I've proposed the doors should be destructible. There is so little time to engage in between elevators changing floors, and the doors opening and closing.

[jovial compass]

remove low grav and make the turrets not have celestial tracking while fighting lights

[calm crystal]

alternatively make the doors open for longer. med with gas, or heavy with rpg can then force them out easy

[oak agate]

The whole building was leveled with only the elevator shaft standing. They had flamethrower so gas was useless. Rpgs were blocked by aps turrets.

[fading cobalt]

It won't happen, but I'm going to just say that so long as the game uses Fun Bucks instead of just real currency, I won't spend a dime. Deep Rock does it, no reason this game can't except greed.

[graceful rampart]

any way yall could add in game text chat w teammates, ppl who dont turn on voice chat aer impossible to commuynicate with

[quick coyote]

How am I supposed to see this guy

[calm crystal]

ive never understood why there isnt text chat. i guess they want to discourage cooperative behavior between teams. (two teams teams wont kill eachother while stealing if there is another team that is about to win in quick cash, which alot of people do anyways), but a text chat like why not? nothing is going to there thats more toxic then vc, and i find everyone pretty nice compared to other games, esp because its less sweaty (except in ranked)

[short dagger]

They should add katana

[graceful rampart]

Not even to other people, at least just to your teammates. if someone isnt in voicechat, they cant even hear you. its a total bummer in ranked bc it detracts from team synergy

[calm crystal]

i was also a bit unclear originally about what joining vc means originally, weather it was just listening or if that was enabling mic. i think it should be enabled by default, and it be a bit more obvious maybe a button, and also let you mute people individually as apposed to disabling the whole thing

[fading cobalt]

Then you have this.

[thick zinc]

PLEASE INCLUDE CRAPS TABLES IN VEGAS MAP 🎲🎲(currently only roulette, blackjack, and slots)

[thorny hare]

Developers should be made to play 1 game of ranked on Asia per day just to see how many people are blatantly ragehacking in every single game.

[split drift]

why should the ttk be the same for a 250hp character to kill a 350 hp character. agree shotgun is op but this logic is flawed. fcar does much higher dps than lewis

[dense fjord]

get an ethernet cord

[blissful hearth]

https://youtu.be/XOuJgO16Yuo?si=uIrzRDLtUoYwGOkz would love feedback on my gameplay

[dense dagger]

I literally said it above unless Light and Heavy, medium have no escape.
Heavy have Dome + mesh shield to boost its HP & RPG + C4 to boost its Damage.
Light weapons TTK on heavy: fastest is ~1.26 & lowest is ~1.40 (removing knife/dagger/sword/sniper)
Med weapons TTK on heavy: fastest is 1.44 the rest are all bellow heavy's weapons ttk (AKM ~1.70, revolver ~1.71, shotgun ~1.87)
Heavy fastest is 0.91 lowest is 1.61 (removing flamethrower and MGL32)

• lewis is 1.56 against heavy

I never saw a game where a flank/damage does less damage than a tank in 1v1 or in a game unless the damage dealer is trash and the tank really good.
the tank can win the straight 1v1 but you have to use its defensive abilities to do so.
Tank's weapons are always really High TTK to counter its massive defenses abilities in every games i played.

Fcar dps is 225.1
lewis dps is 208.3

not much of a difference beside you have to hit 14/20 bullets
while lewis is 14/47 to kill a heavy and 10 for medium.

Heavy right now is basically the main damage dealer in a HML comp.
in term of zone damage and single target damage, totally outshining Light and Medium.
where it should be a tank.

[molten trail]

remove nukes

[tiny inlet]

As a North Korean, I would like equal representation. Thank you.

[violet vigil]

hopefully they address this

[naive apex]

FIX GAME CHAT, MICS ARE NOT ON AT ALL IN THE FIRST ROUNDS OF REGULAR OR RANKED TOURNAMENTS

[chilly sequoia]

Bug, PC: currently in the under construction versions of maps, the crane's left button prompt (press e to turn left) is often the only prompt I get, and I can only turn the crane's left.

[terse saffron]

☝️ this.

Was fine until two updates ago, looks like the hitboxes for the buttons messed up.

If you try really hard, it still briefly shows the back/forth buttons.

[agile gale]

i cant join my friend and he cant join me we played together before it just keeps saying failed to join and we both reluanched twice

[violet vigil]

average nuke user (level 6 c4 btw)

[quick coyote]

dead pov

Nerf feedback channel

yeah idk why they don't have a grenade indicator

[runic monolith]

the nuke is getting patched right?

[kindred jewel]

Bring back the roof mantle 🐶💔

[dawn sand]

pls make the sniper have travel time and bullet drop

[violet vigil]

nuke 2.0

[mystic smelt]

Buff light to like 175-200 hp

[viscid estuary]

Genuinely dumb this is the only channel of leaving feedback and the website takes way too long to tell you this;

Also not great that your game can crash and you get a cooldown by the time your game files sort themselves and it boots. No other comp game does it, only screws your team and ruins game quality even factoring in abuse potential

[pseudo latch]

Day 3 of me begging embark to give heavy a KS23 Four-gauge shotgun

[wraith topaz]

i love this game so much! 3 ranks games 5 teams of hackers. So much for fixing security issues

[frank oracle]

[spare cape]

We need haptic trigger support for ps5 by next season ❗️please add this I love this game sm & wanna see it succeed it would make the game feel so polished, please add haptic/adaptive trigger support it’ll be amazing to feel all the different guns and gadgets especially the flame thrower 🤣🙏🏾 game is amazing that’s all we need

[viscid estuary]

I read China players were a big issue at first, this still the thing or just cheaters in general
edit:
its not a racist thing, but Chinese internet cafes/ips get blocked or segregated by most comp games due to the easy nature of making alt accounts there, and its beyond dumb this game doesn't do it as its very standard and the EXACT same thing happened to every big MP game in recent memory that didn't do something about it, need region/ping locking bare minimum.

oh also if your reading this Embark; great unique BP tries, but it just doesn't come off as an enticing and cool buy at all compared to other games to spend $ on, need more color variety other than joke skins.

[wraith topaz]

i dont really know where they from but most of them do have chinese names. why do you think the game died from 200k players to 20k players now

[buoyant ore]

Many cheaters welcome me in every match

[round goblet]

EDIT: kekw Sword teamwiping this cheater lol, never fail to amaze me. After this round, 2 cheaters on 2 different teams. Asia in its finest

[south geyser]

I'm playing with anonymous activity mode so I don't see anyone but is it possible to still be able to see the names of your teammates ?

[dusk matrix]

talking

[toxic shadow]

soooo when are nukes getting fully removed

[swift horizon]

buff smoke grenade and carriables, make smoke deploys faster and actually fully block line of sight

[calm crystal]

Smoke removing gas and fire would be good, it’s helpful to not block full line of sight sometimes though, esp if you are hiding under smth, you can see them but they arnt looking at you

[raw monolith]

y

[cosmic blade]

[mystic smelt]

https://tenor.com/view/shut-up-low-rank-low-rank-rankism-shut-up-i-have-a-higher-rank-than-you-shut-up-gif-21516126

[cobalt coral]

Day 10 of asking for a real life Nama Tama Tamagochi.

[errant flame]

Light:
Specs now reduce HP regen delay:
Each sec spent Cloaked reduces the delay by 0.5s
Hook - by 2-3s
Each dash - by 1s
Taking damage resets the delay and reduction.
New spec:
Time machine:
Brings back the user to the current spot after N seconds. All carriables can be brought along.
-TP back can’t be triggered manually
-50 dmg upon TP back. If you survive, restores HP as it was before using the ability minus 50.
-TP back doesn’t work if you haven’t moved at least 20 m
-User glows when ability is active and leaves a trace behind himself revealing recent part of is path
-Doesn’t restore CDs on gadgets or negate DOT ticks
-Timer has a random part to it. E.g. 10s +- 3s

Gadgets:
Added:
Heal grenade. Heals allies for 50-90 HP over 2s, user - for 25-45 HP. Delay before exploding. Heals enemies too for 25-45 HP
-Sonar grenade
-Dart - 2 charges on light. Successful shot increases the damage by 10%
Reworked:
-Night vision
-Motion sensor and Glitch radius increase
-Extra frag grenade
-Stun – 2 charges, each lasts for 2s. Target can ADS.

Weapon nerfs:
-Sword
DMG reduced to 66
Swing rate reduced a little
5-6 swings as ammo/charges after which it gets a short pause.
-M11 – DPS 190-200
-XP-54/V9S – DPS 180-190
-SH1900 – DMG – 135
-Knives – DMG – 90

Medium:
-Healing beams can’t be stacked. Heal rate is slightly nerfed
-Defib i-frames slightly nerfed
-Defib has a short CD after getting revived

Heavy:
Gadgets:
-Bring back old damage and radius on RPG and C4
-C4 is thrown and detonated faster
-Dome shield deployed faster and its old HP is restored

-Shield HP reduced to 800.

Weapons:
Lewis Gun - 230 DPS
M60 – 240 DPS
FT– overall DPS increased by 30-50%
SA1216 – each shard deals 9 dmg. Firerate is 80-85% of current one. DPS increase: 2.8%-9.3%
MGL32:

1. Grenades explode on contact, but heavier. This will both keep the weapon more unwieldy with increasing distance and positioning on higher ground desirable
2. Reload & self-damage slightly increased. Demolition in 6 shots

[vocal canyon]

mans just told us hes a heavy main

[swift horizon]

tp back is pretty garbo, light runs faster than other classes, by the time tp back triggers the enemy would be right next to you, this does not help you escape/survive a chase, and it requires extra effort of timing and setup. And it chunks your already low hp each time?? why?

[errant flame]

DAY 🎱 since nuke death of asking to swap Heavy and Light DPS

Light can kill heavy at least just as well as heavy can kill light thanks to smaller hitbox, better DPS, better speed, better recoil (and maybe thanks to a faster firerate too), which are more than enough to compensate for less HP. With difference being, light can go in and out whenever he wants, but heavy - not really. He is just a big fat slow prey and his shield only makes him even more noticeable and slower. Yeah, heavy has RPG, but it has big CD, can deal up to 252 self damage to himself, can be disabled with stun or glitch and keeps getting nerfed and nerfed. And stun gun...Stun gun can render 2, if not 3 out of 6 heavy weapons useless if the light isn't a complete moron and knows to keep just a bit of distance. Also, while heavy can defend himself with his shield, he can't against sword. And his shield prevents him from shooting and makes him slower. A light wouldn't even need to wear down his own defenses to wear down heavy's.

The situation somewhat changes when heavy has a team, but why does heavy need a team and light doesn't? Why should HEAVY be hunted down by none other than a single light? Why does HEAVY, the HEAVY hitter, the HEAVY artillery, the guy with HEAVY and big guns deals the least amount of damage with his weapons? And even with a team, light's glitch grenades are quite good against heavy and light's DPS and stun gun is quite good at preventing heavy from stealing a cash.

In the meantime, people complain that light isn't very useful in teamplay and ranked. So, maybe swap heavy and light DPS and give light more teamplay, team utility and usefullness. Now, that the nukes, which was the main thing that gave heavy his heavy firepower, are killed, it's about time.
And rework MGL

[ebon elbow]

So make heavy broken and light loose every gunfight?

@sinful fog it would affect queue times but they could add to ranked pre picked classes like LMH,

ya man 3 meds are a pain

[sinful fog]

Light and Heavy drama is pointless tho, cuz they are no match for 3 Med Mediums. Even with cooldowns on defibs after revive they will still dominate ranks. The only counter here is to add something that prevents healing, maybe buffing gas/fire by reducing the amount of heal the beam deals for some time after getting damage of it, or just removing defibs from the game entirely - Mediums have plenty of other support gadgets to play with. And dont tell me Glitch Grenades can counter this - APS says hi, also can be stacked to prevent any grenade counterplay at all. And dont forger about 2 "most skilfull" guns - AK and FCAR are probably the most strong guns on any distance - the guy just needs to hold his mouse on your head for 1 second to send you to Valhalla, and he can just wipe your whole team just because his magazine allows him to do this.

[hallow ruin]

This guy just cant aim thats why he is crying for nerf of already weak class._.

[ocean trout]

Oceania tournaments in general has been a shambles, most nights is impossible to q, on weekends is 5-10min wait to get unranked tourny, havent played a ranked one since week 1. Have 10 other that all have same issue, so often end up playing on other servers etc where it shoes q times and tournaments work.

no issues regarding qp ques in oce

[swift horizon]

the only something that prevents healing is glitchnade and that thing gets nullified by the smallest debris and can bounce out of target

i'ld rather have a sticky glitchnade and/or ignore walls, on top of emping elevators

or have one timed glitch gadget that activates on the player's location after x seconds

[errant flame]

Not sure what you mean, but it isn't supposed to help light survive a chase if he is just running away, though sometimes it still will. It's a tactical skill where you activate the skill from safety, go into the battle, die/survive. If you survive, you might potentially end up with more health than you were before TP-ying back. But healing back to full health in case of surviving would be OP.
@ebon elbow Heavy broken? No.
Light loose gunfights? Against other lights? No. Mediums? Likely. Heavy? Yes.

[sinful fog]

We just need Sombra's EMF ult as a spec for Light class that disables everything from specs to gadgets in a moderate radius aroung you to make this class viable in ranked (and probably other) modes. This will probably even counter nukes by disabling C4s on them so Heavies wouldnt be able detonate this thing, missing the whole nuke to the wacky physics of the game as the result. And also it will disable meds for some time, so people will just fall under the pressure of your teammates.

[ebon elbow]

@errant flame what? So u want to give the guy with the highest health the highest damage? Bro what, I’m pretty sure ur just not a good heavy player

Do u even understand what the heavy and light are for?

@errant flame the light IS kill and run/ flank/offence
The heavy is defence/offence
And the mid is healing/defence/offence
So u want to kill the class that needs damage as it doesn’t have anything else?

Wdum about image? ok the then do u want every gun to 1 shot headshot cause it’s not realistic or look doesn’t look ethical otherwise? Like lad cmon

[astral sable]

skill issue

@errant flame stun + submachine gun in the head = done. Just dont fight on light with heavy face to face, u know ...

[swift horizon]

only issue trading a mobility option for this is on seoul, imo the worse map to navigate, otherwise i'ld love this

[errant flame]

Indeed. Otherwise it just trivializes the roles, image, class weight, logic and common sense. Makes HP and the guns sizes just a flavour. Different shades of the same thing outside of a few exceptions.
Light is there for carrying the cashbox, recon, hit'n'run NOT kill'n'run (unless played dagger), harrassing.
Heavy should be like a slow moving fortress with lots of big heavy hitting cannons. Nukes and RPG used to fulfill his firepower aspect and alleviate his low DPS to a degree, but they only get nerfed and nerfed all the time.

[sinful fog]

This is a trade-off that can save you some games tho. I prefer more team-based play, so I often choose Cloak build with vanishes, + Stun and Smokes/Glitches and usually help my team with objectives and stuff. Mostly I like to counter defibs just by standing near the enemy's statue, so when med gets close I just tase him and put him into oblivion for playing like this. Mobility is also nice, but it mostly forces you to hunt down enemies before your team gets to the point, which mostly causes my death because Heavy made a nukie-dookie or my kills where just useless cuz 3 med-team just revived everybody with defibs and FCAR'd my teammates to wipe-out.

[errant flame]

You can read more here.
https://justpaste.it/du05s

[modest parrot]

@errant flame "low DPS" bruh, H opens with Cannister+C4 then RPG, you don't need DPS, you can basically open with burst damage. Heavy has the highest up-front damage.

[lapis pollen]

He's just spamming.

Don't try to argue with him

[wraith socket]

2.5 second health regen on lights and they're finally playable

[grim nymph]

fix OCE servers

[solar heath]

plzplzplz change the colourblind mode or allow us to pick our own enemy team colours. i find it really difficult to distinguish between pink and purple on the regular colours, but the colourblind mode means sometimes i get matchups with two different shades of orange, making me have to switch back and forth with the colourblind settings every other game.

[vocal canyon]

GUYS STOP THE GAME IS BALANCED

[craggy nova]

Fix the tower buttons devs they are not working properly.

[wraith socket]

not at all in weapon damage, its meant to be get in and get out problem is you cant get out or back in when stuck at 5hp for 20 years. the only time i die is when getting chased and in 2.5 seconds i would have enough health to just turn around and dump my second mag. if its taking you more then 1 1/2 mags to kill a heavy im sorry thats just a skill issue

rpg cant one shot and nuke is an entirely seperate issue. gas you have plenty of mobility to get out of. anyone with an iq above 30 can get away from a flamethrower. lewis gun would be avoidable with the health regen buff because you would be able to get away quick enough and heal fast enough to get in in time to kill the heavy before he heals

[sage blade]

We need more skill based matchmaking, I keep on getting into lobby’s of absolute bots on my team and literal diamonds in the enemy team, Please fix this😭

[wraith socket]

Light isn't even slightly playable because of the shitty health regen, my point is that health regen would solve almost every problem that is exclusive to light. Things like the lewis gun and nukes aren't issues exclusive to lights but being killed because you got shot 3 times every 10 seconds is a light exclusive problem. Barely any people in high elo play light because of how terrible it is atm.

[pure stirrup]

Pls make matchmaking depend on party. So if we solo q we meet with bunch of solo people too not 3 stack. Kinda unfair to me when solo q with random , fight a coordinated 3 people

[violet hound]

Was hoping this latest update fixes me not being able to launch the game without using -dx11 in the launch options 😩

[weary bridge]

just q with a team, porblem solved

[quaint scarab]

i agree i dont have friends that really game or have time to so i have to pug alot and going against a entire group that plays together all the time is a disadvantage to pug players

[normal fable]

que times are ridiculous now please keep killing your game dumbass devs also come at me lil bro add me up fr @earnest ermine I sent a friend request come on don't ask mods put me in my place

[earnest ermine]

Mods can we put this user in a pillory and throw tomatoes at them

[reef topaz]

id be down

[plain patio]

yeah ive just been doing asia region, takes 2 mins to get a match and the ping is honestly pretty decent, kinda just feels like you have a subpar internet connection

[weary bridge]

how much more u want to nerf heavy. its not even playble with c4 now, bc u just do more dmg to yourself bc of the c4 dmg range beeing stupid and c4 droping from barrels when u throw it. And sniper doesnt need a buf, u havent played it i guess..

[quaint scarab]

honestly imo devs just need to do what they think is best for the game. back even in the early 2000s devs didnt get feedback from players and people adored those games.... it wasnt until they started listening to feed back that games/gaming turned to the shithole it is now.....

[obsidian solar]

This Is what i mean with the Riot Shield needs a buff... Worthless tracking, swing speed and lunge.
BUFF THE RIOT SHIELD:
Here's some suggestions, I know all of these together would make the shield pretty strong but even 1 or 2 would be enough to improve it so much!:

• While blocking movement speed should be the same as walking (increasing block movement speed would help a lot in pushing and giving your teammates support)
• Lunge distance (90% of the fight become a chase you can't win, the other classes have ways to block enemies, slow them down or catch up to them, even heavies have RPG to finish people off if they use sledge)
• Increase damage from 84 to 90 (to kill heavies in 4 hits instead of 5)
• Add a charge like attack, to activate it press the attack button while blocking kinda like charge N slam, of course less powerful and without the destruction effect, it would add variety, also all the other melee weapons have two attacks)

IMPROVE MELEE TRACKING:

• Some weapons like the Dagger have an insane lock that is not needed, on the other hand the Riot Shield has a very weak lock, you can't even hit people in your face sometimes. Consider increasing the angle at which the lock works and reduce the lock strenght on the Dagger

FIX THE DAGGER BACKSTAB:

• Backstabs with the Dagger are the most incosistent thing I've ever seen, a lot times either nothing happens or it's not backstab even though you're right behind them and other times it is when you're literally in front of them.
• Increase the backstab hitboxes because the latency of the servers causes this problems
• Make it so you can hold the backstab and it's not a forced animation, revert it like it was in the Open Beta
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[raven hatch]

Cosmetic glitch. Wrist band or watches wont work with gloves

[full knot]

i kind of want an option to deny a revive from a teammate if its with defib

[mystic matrix]

Fix crossplay lobbies

• console players only get matched up against pc players when playing crossplay

[weary bridge]

''what elo are you'' xDDD how cringe to ask that.. Im d1 with more than 70k rank points.. Bro medium has the best gadgets in the game, defib, jumpad, zip, sure u can get a good kd with heavy if u have a brain, dont rly need much skill in aiming, but it doesnt mean its the best class in the game. If u didnt know sniper is only good on 2 maps, and i think thats good, dont need to make 1 weapon good in all maps, that would be just stupid..

[tall jewel]

I dont know about other region servers but Asia has to be the one with the most hacks. Out of 20 ranked tournaments, 17 of them has hackers in it and it effects our game so bad. We have been loosing half of these matches because of the hackers. Just today we had 2 teams with hackers on the same lobby and the other team literally decided to team up with us because even they couldn't do anything. Today we met hackers in 95% of the ranked tournament in plat and dia lobby. Is this issue gonna get resolved? The whole discord server are annoyed because of this issue. We just want a fair game where we can give each others proper and fair fight so all can enjoy. But 90% of the times we loose the game because of these hackers. These people who are hacking cant grind and doesnt let us either. Hope the game devs see this and make it as their priority to make changes needed. The finals discord servers that im in loves this game but all of them have started playing less because its just impossible to grind and enjoy the game dues to hackers. Fix it or you are gonna loose more players.

[feral bay]

Gyro is awesome, BUT it HAS TO adjust to the zoom level of the gun/weapon. The sniper rifle is USELESS with gyro, because at that zoom it's way way way too fast. Please... 2 months and including it blows BF2042 away. But... needs a bit more work. Sniper would probably benefit the most from this extremely needed addition. PLEASE.

[sage blade]

I aint readin all’at

[foggy orbit]

Wow that is some bs and great example of why the riot shield is in dire need of some love. It swings so damn slow and has awful range, no wonder why whenever my teammate use it, it's like playing with one less player.

[dense bear]

NA is the same my guy, stop being racist tbh

[shrewd egret]

that could be cool to see the rank in game of the other teams

[void scarab]

I don't know why but everyone and their mum is playing either Light or Medium now..
I kill 1 and i get 2 back, it's getting annoying..
Ever since the nuke has been nerfed, more and more mediums are popping up using their Fcar to shred everything that even remotely moves an inch...
How are people still complaining about heavies ..?

[quick coyote]

idk, people were playing more MMM in SA even before the nuke nerf

[silver pebble]

How are the finals positions decided when the teams are draw? I can't see any logic

[bitter patrol]

something like an early test server for people could be very cool
no idea if thats even feasible tho

[karmic hollow]

Hi. Could someone share settings for controller? I tried different presets but playing on controller feels weird. Seems like AIM works much different then in other FPS games, not smooth and not accurately.

What is better linear or exponential?

[young minnow]

I like linear better

[shy ocean]

stop matchmaking me with diamond rank while im silver

[dense bear]

another light user cheating with pistol shooting from afar

[solid narwhal]

Add input based matchmaking and a xim/cheat detection rework so we can have kbm on console
Please and thank you.

[glacial knot]

Many braindead in this fking game , sometimes i ask my self Where were they when god distributed brains?

[glacial knot]

Some people dont understand that light class is useless in ranked. Light class is just gun fodder. 3 bullet dead

[vocal cave]

light is playable and people do make it work, the only problem that makes light less viable is the nukes

[brave leaf]

Fix the goddamn gas cloud visual, can't tell where it starts or ends.
Remove the sliding off the edge while standing both feet on the ground really annoying shooting sb bellow you.
Why can't we change skins in one category that is meant for items a.k.a Equipment tab
Jump pad is still rng based since beta, after deploying there's a big chance it's not gonna work.

[lofty crypt]

More Fcar Skins !!!!

[flint linden]

Honestly just need to fixed match making. Should be no reason I’m getting in a lobby with pookout/who ever other lobby since he is top leaderboard in the world

[errant flame]

Why does C4 deal ~90 dmg? Last I remember "minimum player damage" was 100 according to patches.

[rugged path]

We need mustaches and mullets. That is all.

[obtuse wedge]

It’s what it’s, u could expect a light or medium nerf in the coming future, but for now we just gonna suffer. I’m not high rank on ranked, but I usually see MMM (especially double turrets) or LMH and usually the heavy doesn’t use nuke (they do use c4 for defense of Cash Out tho). I see L and M being play very frequently, I’m a M/H player

[lavish shard]

P = light
Light is unplayable in ranked
In quik play is very good 👍

[keen lily]

skill based matchmaking needs to go, I'm solo queueing only and I'm at gold 1 and get only into diamond games, this fucking sucks

[cunning dagger]

Fuck Ls, class with the dumbest ever players. Only rushing and dying

[tame pivot]

what you're experiencing isn't SBMM, it's the lack of

[zinc haven]

fuck the contestants typing "fuck Ls". silliest ever contestants.

[timid pumice]

So much yappin 🙄

[earnest ermine]

Increase aim assist but only when shooting PC players.

[keen lily]

with the lack of SBMM I would play with other gold players and roll them

[tame pivot]

no that would happen with SBMM, right now top 5 players are matched with brand new players sometimes, the SBMM if there is any is weak as fuck

[rain aurora]

Why doesnt mouse work on ps5? Is there any reason because keyboard works

[vagrant slate]

feature request: use communication wheel while dead. wanna say thank you when they avenge my death or hype when i watch them do something sick.

[astral tundra]

Please Make Weapon skin for Kills. Maybe 20k Kills a red fire weapon skin with skulls

[zinc haven]

silly, innit?

[quick coyote]

Can we have a "finals classic mode" so everyone who wants to play pre nerfs can and everyone who wants to play the watered down version can? Please and thanks

[burnt lark]

if we are set on sniper being a peashooter please increase fire-rate and airborne accuracy. that way it feels better when pushing cashouts and doesnt buff crane snipers

[coral hedge]

The Finals is Game of the Year 2024!!!!! Well done developers

[junior lagoon]

Dear Devs. Please can the continent of Africa have one server, example locations would be Cape Town or Johannesburg (South Africa), there are datacenters in these locations which other games such as Battlefield / Valorant / CS2 / COD / R6S leverage. There is a market in Southern Africa, a lot of players from areas like the Reunion Islands / Mauritius also leverage South African servers, and it's a good location to provide better access to Sub-Saharan Africa. The infrastructure exists and we have large games with servers here to prove it. Please consider players in Southern Africa. The infrastructure exists in South Africa (RSA), we have an AWS datacenter, Azure Datacenter, direct connections to the undersea cables which run to Europe.

[obsidian grail]

nice we have Network Engineer or Cloud Engineer here 👏