💣┇weapons-gadgets

[mellow lodge]

well all the guns are one click as you click and hold

[soft juniper]

Click and hold click are diffrent yes but with throwing knife you dont hold click to throw 2 knifes you click it once

but if you want to get technical there is one weapon that has the fastest TTK in the game vs all classes

Dagger

im a be real im tired and didnt read the "JK" part I just got off doing a stressful Helldiver mission

[mellow lodge]

oh

no worries 👍

[soft juniper]

yeah sorry bud my little rant would not have happened if I read that

[sick tiger]

i think the inspect animation should have a toggle option in the settings page. thoughts?

[mellow lodge]

wdym by toggle option?, like where you don't have to hold it down the entire time?

[sick tiger]

yup. just press the inspect button once to look at the entire animation. press again to cancel (or slide to cancel)

[next mauve]

No shit it was a joke lmao

[grave remnant]

That’s actually a great idea and maybe one shot turrets or do extra damage to them too

[wise briar]

Are you enjoying your new tracking dart? Light

[visual harness]

Is tracking dart good?

[mortal kiln]

…..

[junior salmon]

for making people go crazy. Yes.

[potent ledge]

day 2 of asking for 50 cal wepons or ammo

[fickle radish]

No

[potent ledge]

oh yes

[ripe shard]

hi everyone, someone play light with the knife ?

[gentle trout]

Hey how's the flamethrower as of late? I haven't played in a bit, last update I remember was the flamethrower getting a firerate increase

[burnt sedge]

any one need to play the finals ?

[fading kite]

the cashout box shouldnt be able to travel through a gateway,

[crisp falcon]

Hey fellas, how come some legendary skins have unique inspect animations and some don't, is there anyway to tell which skins have unique ones?

[modest rose]

any tips on how to do the 5000dmg challange with nades?

[reef sage]

You have a week to complete those so I just suggest playing with them, eventually you'll get it

You can use frag, gas and pyro grenades on the same loadout so it'll be a bit faster

[proud schooner]

the sniper rifle stopped registering hits AT ALL

[marble badger]

bro wtf is this pistol

[sinful aspen]

Is the famas worth using

[marble badger]

idk but the pistol is a watergun

[thick valve]

Could the gateway go a bit further before putting out its gate?

[mellow lodge]

if you have insane control with it, it is good at long range

otherwise it just gets outclassed by the akm and fcar

[sinful aspen]

K

[mellow lodge]

well if you use one then just run with the other it has a range of 70 metres

[thick valve]

Right but sometimes I don’t want to run, just wanna throw it and make it easier on my team.

[mellow lodge]

well try thinking of it as an escape device, that'll give it another use

or having your entire team enter objective instantly as a group

works good with invis as you throw a portal outside obj then one in and your team now has a good route to enter before getting damaged

[thick valve]

Hmmm. Perhaps my vision for it isn’t as coherent as I’d like it to be. I’ve used it in all manners, but I might also just need more time.

[pastel cloud]

Thoughts on the new heavy weapon?

[hexed zenith]

Hello, i use the combo glith + frag for my light class but i don't know what to pick as a thrid gadget

[mellow lodge]

straight dog water

[mellow lodge]

gateway, vanish or stun are good choices imo

[hexed zenith]

I was thinking about vanish but should is use it for me in case camo is out or use it for my teamates ?

[mellow lodge]

i used it today when i ran out of camo trying to escape a full squad

[hexed zenith]

okay so more as a joker

[mellow lodge]

also allows for your team to push in while you are all invis which messes with the enemies

[scenic brook]

How does a heavy have a grenade launcher that can’t blow up walls easily. Unreal

[steady wave]

93r(new pistol) is absolutely trash. LOW DMG AND hard to aim

[scenic brook]

What was the point of making that transparent wall item. Ruins heavy gameplay

[boreal laurel]

It’s to give medium a pseudo-breaching tool. So C4 with no damage.
(Look on the bright side: no more recon senses for now…)

[scenic brook]

There is no bright side, now I have to worry about some medium nerd looking through a wall at any given point when i should only have to worry about a breach charge, hammer, or heavy running through the wall

[mental plinth]

fix the fucking ranked system that shit is a damn joke

[molten lintel]

does anybody know how to fix the animation glitch where you equip an animation but in the game it's the default one?

[swift canopy]

I’ve had that happen too

[molten lintel]

Do you know how to fix?

[near stratus]

Is Anybody else experiencing a constant jam/delay when shooting either the famas or 93R on console??

[patent zinc]

For anyone running riotshield a lot, what you all using with it?

[mighty island]

It’s because you have to shoot right on Time, really hard for us console player

[sleek compass]

Best, medium gadgets

[obsidian mason]

Nerfed fcar. It’s impossible now on roller to one clip the farthest dummy on the practice shooting range. GJ 👍

[sonic orchid]

Rework of the Data Sheet: https://onedrive.live.com/view.aspx?resid=67A1399279DDC4C3!1856&authkey=!ACCI_If1LOcppeA

[velvet tangle]

CL count for grenade dmg?

[restive plover]

No, it has to be gadget grenades.

[violet turtle]

says the sniper has a 2x headshot multiplier?

[wise briar]

Dear Embark, can i get my fucking tracking dart back? Yours sincerely, Medium.

[dusty ice]

no

[wise briar]

Fuck off light

[violet turtle]

did they remove it?

[wise briar]

They gave it to those assholes light instead

[violet turtle]

lol that’s stupid as hell, light does not need a big ass sniper to track people

[remote matrix]

They took away a good skill from the medium and added a crappy gadget. Very strong weakness. And a buff for light again. Medium is now most usless.

[wise briar]

As if their sniper isnt annoying enough. Fucking coward lights

[violet turtle]

i still think they should rework the “tracking feature” to give the mediums. kinda so they can take th role of information gatherer. maybe a camera that can shoot tracking darts like cypher from valorant?

[wise briar]

Or maybe a tracking dart that also acts as a glitch when hit

[violet turtle]

oh that’s a good idea. but i think embark want to keep glitch to the light category

[wise briar]

But ofcourse. Make light more bloody annoying as fuck. Bcs why not

[violet turtle]

yea they should totally revert that change and give it to mediums

[wise briar]

Embark will not listen. They took away my most fav gadget and gave it to my most hated class

[restive plover]

is the portle any good?

[restive plover]

Lol

Lmao, even

[wise briar]

Thats the wrong question. The right question is, is the object changer any good?

[restive plover]

?

[restive plover]

Definitely.

[wise briar]

U know. The shittiest gadget for M

[restive plover]

whats the best class? im new to the game

You forgot about glitch mines.

[wise briar]

I dont even remember what the hell its called

[violet turtle]

all pretty decent at this point, play who fits your play style

[wise briar]

Dont play light. Its trash

[restive plover]

Heavy is still probably the most user friendly.

[ancient flower]

Hello everyone

[restive plover]

im using light at the moment

[violet turtle]

light is tricky to start off with, but if you can handle it go for it

[restive plover]

Light requires a bit more work to be on the same level as heavy and medium, but it's not as bad as it used to be.

[restive plover]

ok whats the most noob friendy loadout?

[violet turtle]

light is hard because you have to keep moving and changing ur position, which needs decent map knowledge to do effectively.

usually in games support characters(medium with heals and revive) are good for new players, but if you want a more aggressive play style play a heavy build

[thick valve]

L medium main, get sworded

[regal elk]

Depends on the other games you’ve played

I came from games like doom eternal and tf2 so I picked up light very quick

[restive plover]

ok thanks

[thick valve]

Personally I think it’s great but with double light it can lead to hilarious relay races with the vault.

[thick valve]

Best? Medium. Easiest to use? Heavy. Most satisfying? Light.

[violet turtle]

i really like how you can throw objects through the portal. makes for some really nuanced gameplay

[restive plover]

i have ps+ so i got 2 camo skins

[thick valve]

Stealing the vault and instantly teleporting it to a cash box is so hilarious

[remote matrix]

Lol, medium now i the worst

[restive plover]

@red i sent you a friend request

[violet turtle]

isn’t there a maximum range or something tho?

[thick valve]

Nah, still the best. They have easily the best weapons and with the defib rework, they are even better.

[violet turtle]

gotchu

[thick valve]

70 meters

[restive plover]

k

[remote matrix]

Yea, but got nerf (buff for light) and worst gadget

[violet turtle]

it’s a little bigger than that i think

closer to 90, is that really enough to insta tp to the cash out?

[thick valve]

Even with the nerfs, it’s still the best class. Not by as much as before but still the best.

[restive plover]

They still have a ton of utility and the dematerializer is not to be slept on.

[thick valve]

Nah it’s 70, they said so in both the gadget overview and when they showcased. But on most maps, yes it is enough.

[violet turtle]

dematerializer is really strong. get shot in the back? dematerialze the floor and instantly fix it

[restive plover]

that sounds cool

[violet turtle]

i did some testing, 70 is like maximum distance where the person can stand. i can stand 70 meters away from the first portal and throw my second portal in the opposite direction, making the portals about 90 ish meters apart

[thick valve]

I believe they are complaining about the data reshaper, not the dematierializer

[thick valve]

Will test this, uno momento

[violet turtle]

that’s more map specific imo, on the new map it’s less effective because to bc less objects. but with one charge you can make like 6-7 barrels in the right spots, which is pretty useful at times

[thick valve]

Right, I was merely saying they aren’t complaining about demat. I think they are both still great tbh.

[violet turtle]

yeah people just need time to understand the new stuff

[marble sage]

Can we get a small buff on famas please and thank you embark

[sonic orchid]

Yes, that‘s correct

[thick valve]

It’s actually even farther wth. It’s like 110 or something holy moly

[violet turtle]

wow that’s some serious distance. if you throw the second one off a roof top or the construction zone in seoul you could prolly get 130

[terse raptor]

Does anyone here agree that throwing knives need a bit of a buff

[violet turtle]

def not, they’re already super strong if u can adjust ur aim to its throwing style

[terse raptor]

And that is really challenging plus it has some poor hit reg due to it being a projectile weapon

[violet turtle]

imagine a light with invisible/dash with stun gun, going around 2-3 shotting mediums and 3-4 shotting gracie’s

[terse raptor]

It's actually a 2 shot heavy and incredibly inconsistent at best

[violet turtle]

yeah that’s true but i think that’s a hit model issue. but if it’s not yeah fix hit reg

[violet turtle]

not with a stun gun and a surprise

[terse raptor]

I play sea of thieves they have a big hit reg issue and the devs stated that the easiest way to fix it is to switch to hitscan since projectiles are not all to consistent and the same applies to other games just as an example

[violet turtle]

yeah but then that’s you lose the point of throwing knives if they’re hitscan, that’s just a burst revolver at that point

and you can use it far range as well then, no bullet drop off, etc

[terse raptor]

Ik but I'm just saying something like a projectile speed buff would solve alot of problem even if it's just a small one

[violet turtle]

yeah could be

[terse raptor]

But embark is doing alot to help the games help so I have confidence that they make the correct choice whatever that choice may be

[smoky jay]

The customizable reload animations, like the “Jackpot Juggle” for the AKM, don’t seem to work when I equip them. I’ve tried resetting a character (deleting their loadout and redoing everything) and it’s not a legendary skin interfering or anything like that. Any known fixes?

[strange trout]

I've got the same issue, dunno how to fix it tho

[karmic nova]

I really want to like cube but it honestly is bad. Especially in skyway where the cashbox is too high and none of my teammates have no traversal gadgets to get up there. I thought it had the same range as the alien event but it does not. It also doesn’t go through floors. Really shitty imo

[noble flare]

yeah

[strange trout]

Dematerializer is goated, give that guy a raise

[muted yew]

It’s not good for movement most of the time, however it is really good when used to abduct the cash out or even when thrown at enemies, it will leave players floating upwards slowly makeing it ez to get a kill on them

[violet turtle]

@terse raptor just tried throwing knives after and they’re crazy good with the right util

crazy fun too

[thick valve]

So far I’ve gotten it 135, this thing might be crazy.

[violet turtle]

lemme see if i can top that

okay i kinda cheesed it cause i fell out of the map but i got like a 150

[woeful agate]

how the fuck are you supposed to deal with stun gun + m11

[molten lintel]

Does any body know how to fix the issue where when you equip a animation inspect for your weapon/gadget in game it uses the default one

I play xbox

[violet turtle]

audio probably

[noble gate]

It have been fixed with the Season 2

[molten lintel]

Well it's not working for me, is there a fix

[noble gate]

Idk,i was having that in Season 1 and now i dont have it anymore,and i dunno any fix+i'm a PS player so things are different for me

[molten lintel]

Well thanks any ways

[noble gate]

Sorry i coudln't help you

[molten lintel]

Nah, it's all good

[gray bridge]

make limits of how many people can have the same gadget in a team, 3 turrets and 3 defibs is impossible

[empty mirage]

hi seer

[spiral osprey]

these 30 hz servers are getting old when no regging 3/6 revolver shots devs

bruh thats literally cheating fuck off lol

[restive plover]

sword is sm fun

[spiral osprey]

as easy anti cheat autobans most 3rd party crosshair programs im not taking that chance

[restive plover]

they should make a belle delphine bath water grenade

[patent bloom]

whyyy 😭 the current crosshair customiser is awful, cant even change shit or make it static

[restive plover]

but belle delphine bath water

[upper quail]

and what does this have to do with belle delphine bath water

[patent bloom]

no

[patent bloom]

im talking about crosshairs, dunno why tf do you talk about bath water

[weak lintel]

yap

[spiral osprey]

this is true but as easy anticheeat bans without devs approval and the devs also cant real;y rerquest an unban i aint doing that fam

well 30 hz servers is the real problem as i can aim lol

30hz is the exact same as apex which has been notoriously sp;otty with its hitreg for years before this game came out but hey theyre cheap so why not use them right?🤪

[lunar onyx]

is lewis better than the defaultl machine gun ?

[spiral osprey]

its a mixed bag of preference nowadays

[lunar onyx]

is there any specific weapon thats best in heavy?

[spiral osprey]

the auto shotty is basically the best when paired with the mesh shield spec

[restive plover]

Their DPS is very similar but the m60 now has the better recoil of the two alongside more ammo.

[spark saddle]

Someone send me a picture of the diamond fcar skin please

[restive ginkgo]

Imagine if light had a splash healing potion that like instant healed 50 health

[fading nova]

[vague otter]

best heavy weapon?

[sand monolith]

sa1216 without question

[static hollow]

this guy is lying its ass dont run it (pls no more sa1216 users)

[sand monolith]

LOL

[terse raptor]

What was your build?

[boreal laurel]

Don’t listen to the naysayers—SA1216 is the best. After that come the two MGs (though I can’t tell you which of those is better since I haven’t tried them post-nerf).

[smoky timber]

M11 needs more damage in CQC than the XP, XP has more range but damage is equal and has more range/ less recoil, makes the M11 almost useless if xp does all jobs better

[mellow lodge]

m11 has a higher dps than the xp because of the higher fire rate

[smoky timber]

doesnt matter when the heavy shotty still kills you before you can get them have hp

[mellow lodge]

thats why you don't get anywhere near them and use the xp, lh1 or sniper 👍

or stun gun and just strafe around them

[smoky timber]

that's not a good argument... there's a reason Lights are just no where near as common as med and heavies

lights are not supposed to play far away. if the cqc/ skirmisher class cant reliably win in cqc or just gets deleted by an rpg then what's the point?

[mellow lodge]

the point is i feel the struggle and there isn't anything we can do

turret just destroys lights, eespecially with the new gamemode

[restive plover]

The SR-84 in question:

[smoky timber]

How helpful are snipers in this game really?

lets be real

[mellow lodge]

well they make the enemy wish you were dead, and in the new game mode they really good because it's a point push game mode

[smoky timber]

Im talking comp tho. grapple sniping has a place sure, but in ranked it's almost an automatic throw, espeically on the new map

[golden adder]

All you can do is hope AR’s get nerfed to become harder to use up close, hope RPG gets a damage nerf, hope shotgun gets nerfed, hope light gets faster health regen.

Oh and abuse the taser but I think it’s bad for the game but light needs it rn.

[smoky timber]

This guy gets it. I dont want to have to use invis stun to be able to do anything on the class. Stun isnt even that good depending on how close you need to b, I.e. sawed off and m11 getting destroyed in cqc by heavy shotty. On top of defibs being a thing, any picks on meds and heavies get immediately reversed bc all the comps you ever see are MHH or MMH

[mellow lodge]

yeah stun gun isn't that good when medium and heavy has ridiculous hip fire

[golden adder]

True defibs are also game breaking against light’s role

[mellow lodge]

i think stun gun should like how you are stunned in payday 2, it forces you to shoot and messes with your hipfire

otherwise i just stun a medium with fcar and they just destroy me instantly with their hipfire

[smoky timber]

or the fact that their team WILL be close by to trade you out and you'll already be 1hp

[static hollow]

agreed, your hipfire should def be compromised. your muscles are basically working against you

[golden adder]

Exactly. But I’d add the caveat that the effect should be cancelled if the person takes damage.

[mellow lodge]

if it gets cancelled when taking damage the effect should be longer then

[smoky timber]

Stun cant just make you unable to fight i agree but something needs to change ab how it works

[mellow lodge]

so it's actually a stun ability

[golden adder]

I think it’s pretty long as is, it’s long enough that almost every weapon will be dry by the time it’s over

[mellow lodge]

is it now 3.5 seconds?

[golden adder]

No idea. I generally dislike stuns in games though.

[mellow lodge]

yeah i wanted to stop running it but i wanted to learn to use sword and now am stuck using that with sword

[smoky timber]

maybe slowing down the sensitivty even further would help? i've been 180d by people way too much on MnK for it to even matter if im behind

[simple rain]

thought on the new shbotty?

[smoky timber]

throws rocks, a little underwhelimng. projectile needs to be a bit faster

[mellow lodge]

and more accurate

[simple rain]

my main issue is that bc its a slug i feel it should have headshot

[toxic field]

Thoughts on the burst pistol?

[sharp finch]

idk

[toxic field]

I feel like there is no change with the meta besides the defiv being nerfed

[sharp finch]

it's aight I guess

[smoky timber]

is good, aim at upper chest/ neck for free heashots mixed in

[sharp finch]

Is it bad to full healer medium build?

[boreal laurel]

I use sword without stun and actually do a lot better without it. I used to stun people and then just get evaporated instantly

[boreal laurel]

With some tweaks it could be amazing. As is, it’s pretty hard to use but still viable.

[sharp finch]

best combo for healer build?

[smoky timber]

personally run AK/FCAR, jump pad, defibs, pryo/ gas nades, heal gun

double turret can also be good but heals has more value overall

[sharp finch]

aps is good, no?

[smoky timber]

I dont think so, radius is really small, and doesnt do anything unless projectile is in the radius

[boreal laurel]

Weapon is up to you. Usually one grenade or mine and either zip line, jump pad, or APS. And of course defibs.

[sharp finch]

or not so much after they removed nukes

[boreal laurel]

APS depends on whether you’re facing grenade spammers. It was really handy after they buffed the GLs, but nowadays it’s just really situational

[obsidian nexus]

fcar still outshines everything. very sad to see the same gun still dominating the meta. also stuns not being changed/nerfed/reworked is very weird. c4 nerfs are good

[mellow lodge]

well place it near the turret and enemy has to shoot turret

[boreal laurel]

IMO stun is fine. (Because I can still easily kill lights who stun me 😄) I just wish it didn’t hard-counter melee weapons (because I play a lot of melee).

[mellow lodge]

stun just needs a change in how it works

[boreal laurel]

Can’t argue TBH

[obsidian nexus]

stun xp54 is stupid if they know how to stun. because ur hipfire will miss the light before he can insta beam u to death. if they stun super close then u can easily kill the stunner.

[vast ravine]

what should I run w light, rn I’m using xp54 with dash, stun gun, glitch grenade, and gateway

[terse raptor]

It's op

[boreal laurel]

And we won’t even talk about stun+M11…
(IMO M11 is way over tuned )

[obsidian nexus]

seems good

[boreal laurel]

My light build is sword with dash, glitch, pyro, and breaching charge. Breach is really useful—try it if you haven’t. Otherwise your loadout looks solid

[vast ravine]

also any tips on how to win more like 1v1s bc I be spamming crouch up and down when I shoot but it like decrease the damage somehow

[scarlet temple]

How long does the gateway stay open and how far away does it work? Or what triggers it to close? I can’t find that anywhere?

[celest sapphire]

Going left and right also helps avoid bullets more than spamming croutch, as I noticed

[restive plover]

Add crossbow with explosive bolt that stick to walls and explodes with delay with little damage for light class.
Make the light class dagger have an attack with 100damage when using secondary attack falling from a height but have the knife come off from enemy's back after 0.85 sec so enemy team can get u and it's not op or have it charged backstab like open beta while in air and increase the back stab hit box a little bit in general.
It's needed as the sword does consistent high damage from any angle.
Any problems?

[mellow lodge]

dagger just needs hitbox and tracking problems fixed

[celest sapphire]

be'ng able to hold backstab attack would also be nice

[mellow lodge]

yeah forgot to add that

[restive plover]

@mellow lodge u have an extra dash with charge sword and it does consistently high damage with a big hit box.
What the hell does dagger have?
A small hit box thats horrible against light but swords can one tap charge melee combo

[mellow lodge]

sword cannot insta kill hevay

dagger can with backstab quick melee

[restive plover]

@mellow lodge but still lower mobility and small hit box

[mellow lodge]

yes thats why i said hitbox needs fixing, and dagger sucks against light

sword and dagger have same ttk with normal melee swings though against light

[restive plover]

@mellow lodge I didn't understand if u meant bigger hit box or hitbox register cause auto aim messes up the backstab

[mellow lodge]

both, and in the message i also mentioned auto aim messing with backstab as i said tracking

[restive plover]

I see now

@mellow lodge since the lunge of sword is so op so how about we have a shorter but faster downwards lunge for dagger when jumping that does 100damage?

[mellow lodge]

just wouldn't make sense mechanically and is still just a worse sword lunge at that point, as jumping while lunging doesn't make you go foward

[restive plover]

@mellow lodge I know!!!
I don't think we will get a better lunge like sword but it's the best I can come up with,tell me what type of movement u would like?

[mellow lodge]

dagger to be held and not slow you down, and to just have better hit registration is what it needs rn imo, as i can backstab but go into the persons body only for it to not count

[restive plover]

@mellow lodge that's not a problem if u use akiba step or dagger dash about it slowing u down

@mellow lodge https://youtu.be/ivqW8VHY9fM?si=qOyYT_aH7DFIZtW7

[mellow lodge]

well that guys just a god at dagger dash

[restive plover]

@mellow lodge we just need a lunge attack downstairs so it's like an ambush

[abstract hemlock]

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[restive plover]

The M11 is OP

[tame vapor]

yet to play szn 2, is the gravity flipper for heavy any good? or a waste

[fickle radish]

Kinda good, not the best gadget but after c4 nerf its viable imo

[tame vapor]

how abt the new shotgun?

tryin to get UPCLOSE AND PERSONAL

[untold salmon]

O9P({"

[tame vapor]

lmao

[untold salmon]

88888888888888

[mellow lodge]

bad

[tame vapor]

still gotta try it out, more of a lewis guy anyways

[arctic dagger]

Hey, any tips for new famas

I bought it but I still haven't used it I like akm and for long range fcar

[restive plover]

🔥Plz add a fast downward lunge attack for dagger that does 100 damage when falling on a enemy and a wall jump to get high(above) near an enemy for mobility and faster slide cause the sword has a huge hitbox and has a little dash with the charge attack that one tap melee combos fast light players but dagger auto aim makes the backstab miss.
MAYBE add half the lunge of sword to dagger secondary.
U literally get more mobility/distance with sword lunge and dash combo,it's crazy op!
Any problems???

[sinful dagger]

People need to stop putting thermal vision in F tier

Its more like B/C tier since it is probably the best gadget for reserve

Won a game against triple light with two running cloak in ranked just because I switched to it

[restive plover]

@sinful dagger thermal filter looks ugly

[wintry arch]

Whats the best way to level up gadgets and weapons

[restive plover]

Playing tournaments is the best for experience grinding in general.

[misty relic]

Going left to right also makes aiming easier, this game has aim smoothing so the faster you move the less recoil you have, counter strafing makes it even easier to aim. Its why there's very little recoil on ziplines compared to standing.

[wintry arch]

Does it increase in ranked or is it the same for non

[restive plover]

I have no idea. I don't touch ranked.

[wintry arch]

Ah ok, preciate the help

[spiral osprey]

for as high skill as the lh1 and the revolver are they shouldnt be even able to leave someone on less than 20 health much less the 247 and 147 the lh1 does respectively

[proud parcel]

They're fine. You clearly didn't experience CBT LH1 and the revolver being able to 2 shot lights and 3 shot mediums would be extremely obnoxious. They're headshot weapons. Shoot them in the head.

[spiral osprey]

im asking for a measily 3 damage so i dont have to headshots light twice to kill them with their terrible hitboxes and multiple gimmicks to get away

[proud parcel]

Lights die to 1 headshot and 1 body shot.

[spiral osprey]

like theyre high skill versus the spam cannons that is the other guns in this game being able to 3 shot head shot with much higher fire rate and ammo cap

its just terrible design meant to invoke frustration at not being able to kill someone on 3 health

[proud parcel]

No, it's not.

The numbers are specifically done so you can't 2 shot lights with the lh1 without two headshots.

It's a 4 shot body shot

Lights are squishy enough as is. Wanting them to die even faster is a pure and unfiltered skill issue.

[spiral osprey]

yeah damn right its a skill issue when i have to hit 4 shots on someone with a high skill gun versus the spam cannons that they have and the cloak to just escape at any time
its terrible design

weapons shouldnt be unviable versus their counter parts especially in agame with a locked loadout mode such as ranked

[proud parcel]

Monstrously stupid take.

You very clearly didn't play the closed beta tests where the LH1 dumpstered every class in the game with ease. It's in a good spot right now.

Just get better aim and game sense. Cloak is easy to spot and is very loud now.

[spiral osprey]

i really really do not care about the cbt when we're in season 2 big man and cloak isnt loud versus the whole screaming of the arena, the cashout noises, the constant scottie did you put your name in the goblet of fire? announcers that go off every 2 seconds and more

[proud parcel]

So you want them to change the balance of the game for a skill issue?

[mellow lodge]

if only you could turn off announcements 🎉

[spiral osprey]

i just want 3 damage so i dont have to rely on my teamates to kill every class except heavy(cause huge hitbox) and especially because light is the worst class for counter play since every other gun is the direct counter to lh1

[proud parcel]

Announcements are important. They tell you shit about the other teams.

[proud parcel]

Shoot them again. This is a skill issue. Or just use the mp5 like every other bad light player.

[mellow lodge]

what do they tell me? i've had them off for months

i've also never had a problem with destroying people with the lh1

[spiral osprey]

idk man heres me just trying to make the game passable without having to play the hardest youve ever played every fucking match but its always just a skill issue im sorry i have a job and nerve damaged hands that cant just no life aimtrainers lol\

[mellow lodge]

just spam fire the gun

[spiral osprey]

also how tf do you turn off the announcers

[mellow lodge]

somehwere in sound settings

[spiral osprey]

nothing there?

[proud parcel]

They tell you when a team is wiped and when a team respawns for two, which are both very useful

[spiral osprey]

i just look at top left lol

[mellow lodge]

thats solved by me looking at the scoreboard and looking top left

[proud parcel]

Sure, but that's an extra action when you can just passively listen

[mellow lodge]

dialogue volume

[spiral osprey]

thats listening passively block the cloak noise so its a good trade too mee

[proud parcel]

Another skill issue tbh

[mellow lodge]

so it not looking in the top left

[spiral osprey]

im a construction worker and a gun owner if a skill issue is having damage to heariung dfone by life then fuck off and have no skill you might need it

[proud parcel]

I've been shooting firearms most of my life and my hearing is fine.

Hearing damage fucking blows but earplugs are cheap.

[spiral osprey]

earplugs may be cheap but fathers dont alwasy supply that to kids at a young age either

[proud parcel]

Awful, I'm sorry. I don't wish hearing damage on anyone

[frank timber]

Trama for trama moment

[flint blaze]

yeah guns are loud fr

[exotic wren]

Lewis Gun go brrrrrrr

[wise briar]

Day 3 of begging embark to bring back tracking dart for mediums
Embark: *sips tea quietly

[raw mortar]

Why is the prompt for picking up the barrier go above the barrier I can't even pull my gun out (Y) after placing the barrier because this prompt is stuck in my face why not make the prompt pop up at half the height of the barrier. This is torture for console players or I'm forced to remap or go BACK into my equipment wheel and unequipping barrier instead of placing the barrier and pulling out my gun

Barrier isn't even on my screen and the prompt is still there why

[dire geyser]

is it just me or does the new heavy shotgun and the new light pistol fucking suck

[dusty ice]

sonar grenade for lights is godly

[lethal tulip]

Frags go hard

[restive plover]

Medium too slow to make use of it

Since time to kill got faster through out after launch and feels like cod 💀 u got consistent damage with sword 360° with dash and lunge combo with no accuracy needed 🔥🔥🔥.
Dagger is awkwardly the same with hitbox problems and very slow.
Add a slide lunge for dagger, i can't get the awkward backstab to work against light players running around and hyper mediums which is in most matches so I suggest:
🔥Plz add a fast downward lunge attack for dagger that does 100 damage when falling on a enemy and a wall jump to get high(above) near an enemy for mobility and faster slide cause the sword has a huge hitbox and has a little dash with the charge attack that one tap melee combos fast light players but dagger auto aim makes the backstab miss.
Maybe add half the lunge of sword to dagger secondary.
U literally get more mobility/distance with sword lunge and dash combo,it's crazy op!

[raw mortar]

Bruh

[wise briar]

You do realize the whole team can see the targeted darts right? Medium too slow to make good use of it? Thats a pointless statement. Its a support gadget for the whole team to take advantage of. Do you see any light using darts? Nah. They only care for using offensive gadgets. But sure! Make lights more annoying! Give them the tracking dart while they're using sniper! But what do we medium get instead? A fucking object reshaper

[sweet valve]

Wow, dematerializer can sometimes be absolute ass on Las Vegas.
So many sections that just have random bits of scenery behind it. You open up a hole into bits of metal or more floor...

[ebon ingot]

So the fcar is still the best gun in the game now with it being in 93% of my matches over the past 20 hours of gameplay since the patch came out. I'm asking that we please finally actually nerf the problem with the gun? Nerfing the range didn't do anything, nerfing the recoil still didn't do anything, and the "damage" nerf was too small to notice as it changed none of the breakpoints. I get that since it has a lower ammo count it should hold some benefit over the AKM but as it currently stands in the sandbox its TTK paired with its CONSITENCY is far superior to most of the weapons in the game. In higher elo lobbies down to even average elo lobbies players can easily control the gun meaning there's little room for skill expression before you get lasered by the god gun again.

Let's fix the problem! Drop the weapon's TTK by decreasing the weapons damage. Now you can't just make it a worse AKM, so increase the headshot multiplier. In fact, I'd even argue that it would still be a nerf if headshots dealt more post nerf than currently. The problem is the gun has both damage and consistency -- something most of the game's current guns lack. Reducing the body shot damage would in effect lengthen the average TTK while still providing a way to show skill expression by being killed by it. When dying to the FCAR, I'd like to admit that I was actually outskilled rather than just sprayed with the same high dps bullet hose everybody and their mother has been running around with for the past 4 months.

The FAMAS is an example of what a truly balanced weapon should feel like for a medium. My engagements against a FAMAS player end with an actually enjoyable gun battle where both sides can show skill expression. I play all roles with all guns and I believe almost every role has to play to disenagage when going against an fcar. I hope you'll reign in it's terror and make it more like the FAMAS.

[restive plover]

Honestly the light needs object reshaper for mines cause low health.
If u have friends interested them good for u but teammates have their play style and don't always go for your targets.
But light have the mobility to use angles needed to use dart

@raw mortar 🔥Rework abilities 🔥
Have grapple hook have a primary use which can hook and swing and use momentum to go places and up high structures manually slightly faster then ziplines,it has 2 uses.
Have a secondary use that's already in the game by default which is to quickly pull u but u should be able to cancel it to use the speed instead of having it pull u in a corner and stuck.
No one uses grapple hook so make it better.
Have better thermal vision filter cause it looks ugly and have it see mines and turrets through walls cause they shread light players.
Have a healing dart gun for light players that gives teammates heath 50 instantly and jump starts the healing process quicker.
Have a poison dart gun varient that does little poison damage but lower bullet velocity and less tracking time.
Rework cloak into chameleon ability where invis goes away after 6 seconds on ground (can use vanish bomb combo for longer on ground) but stays longer when u r stuck on walls or cellings and u can use gravity to walk on any structure,u can creep fast but when u r upright and have to shoot u r easier to spot,it's great on large maps where u can do secondary throwing knife attack from the celling or fall down from there and use dagger or sword.
U can even go around buildings to escape.
Cloak is annoying as time to kill is faster they just vanish at will and shoots out of nowhere,we don't have recon senses and thermal gadget is ugly.

[proud stone]

Fcar is good where it’s at. Maybe elevate other guns. Fcar isn’t op , fcar isn’t the problem.
Nerf/remove heavy auto shotgun
Remove rpg’s
I bet the game will be more fluid (at higher levels at least)
Light will become much more viable.
Heavy will always be useful for shields
Make medium defib faster (keep the current animation of them getting up though)

[rotund dew]

Get rid of the sniper, it doesn’t fit the game, isn’t fun to fight and it stops the player for using it to be able to do the objective properly without being killed

[wise briar]

And that what makes lights even more broken. Buffing them all up by giving them more powerful gadgets is just plain stupid. I had no problem using darts for M since day 1 and none of my team mates ever complains. I've always hit my mark ( especially when they carry the vault ). But now? I dont even see ONE light even using the dart. What a pointless change from embark. They butchered the only useful tracking gadget and gave it to the most useless class. Perfect

[topaz marten]

They aren't that overpowered

[wise briar]

They are now mate

They can have the damn reshaper for all i care

[left acorn]

They should add a boogie bomb for shts and giggles

[restive plover]

Devs r like try hard call of duty Devs making a reskin and buffing everything and then making dumb decisions

[grizzled canyon]

medium should have more time on the heal gun because when you are playing quick cash if you have two heavys the heal gun can only heal one fully

[verbal apex]

What are the timers on the lights teleport gadget? How long before you have to put down the second end, and then how long does the gateway last?

[wise briar]

Wellp. They completely destroyed medium and made lights more bloody annoying. I have no more reason to play this trash game anymore.

[restive plover]

Tracking is that op to u lol?
Try heavy with goo and hammer it's fun

[wise briar]

Yeah man. Tracking dart is the most fun and useful gadget for the whole team. I've always known how to use it the right way. You have no idea how getting tracked makes someone go crazy

That fear and anxiety of being hunted by a whole team

Its exhiliriating

[restive plover]

What server u play?!
They never give a damn when I play lol!!!

Good for melee to surprise them with light

[wise briar]

Lol i always switch between europe and north A. Dont go for asia. Its full of hac i mean losers

[restive plover]

Wow thanks for the advice maybe that's how I have been getting a bad time lately

[wise briar]

Yeah. Definitely. Its pointless now. I will never get my damn dart again. Shit

[restive plover]

Make turrets have recon senses with in its range and reduce fire rate and range it's like an annoying hitscan weapon,this is the finals game not teamfortress or cod warzone.
How do u like my idea about recon senses?

[wise briar]

Recon senses for turrets? Hmmm. Sounds a bit broken man. Especially when theres 3 turrets in place.

[restive plover]

Only when taking damage or like sonar when they get hit for a small time, remember reducing range and fire rate

[wise briar]

Ahh i see. Get scanned when getting hit. That sounds more balanced. Isnt the fire rate slow enough to you? Lol. Its not a gatling gun bro

[atomic wasp]

anyone wanna play

WRONG THING MY BAD

[restive plover]

@wise briar A bit slower and less range is necessary or else 2 or 3 turrets r hella annoying can't get near them!

[cunning shoal]

i love pyros

[restive plover]

Or at least only less damage

[wise briar]

Most of the matches, no one is going to choose 3 M. Even if they do, some of them will choose healing or that hole maker instead. Idk man. Sounds too nerfed for the turrets

[restive plover]

Not with the recon senses added,just a little bit of fire rate and range

[patent bloom]

almost nobody uses them on mediums.. while on light class its more suitable (especially with sniper)

[restive plover]

How about it starts with a low fire rate and then slightly increases?

[wise briar]

I beg to differ sir. I use it on every match. Its broken for lights. Too buffed

[wise briar]

Even with the recon sense, still tho. It only tracks when hit right? What if the turrets are inside the cashout room? How can it track anyone outside?

[patent bloom]

its not broken. just it matches their playstyle so well. while on mediums you have a different gameplay, mainly with mines or heal, idk. never really saw anyone using tracking dart until it got in the lights hands

[restive plover]

Then it's too op there is a reason why recon senses got removed

[patent bloom]

recon senses should be reworked definitely, but i feel like dematerialiser isnt an ability, but rather a gadget

[wise briar]

Imagine a light with a sniper rifle. And now they have a tracking dart. Do you realize how overpowered that looks? Not only the light can see you but the whole team themselves. What if the whole team are lights full of snipers? Gg bro gg

[patent bloom]

• its a shame that antigravity cube can be destroyed...

[patent bloom]

that isnt overpowered. just balanced imo

• u will mainly see those in powershift, thats where snipers shine

[wise briar]

Thats where snipers become more irritating you mean

[patent bloom]

yeah

[restive plover]

Close up very near the it's kinda like sonar and then u see them when hit and lower fire rate for balance causes it's not just offensive

[wise briar]

Yeah recon was broken af. Still remember how i can see everyone on the whole map on S01 lol

[restive plover]

🔥Rework abilities 🔥
Have grapple hook have a primary use which can hook and swing and use momentum to go places and up high structures manually slightly faster then ziplines,it has 2 uses.
Have a secondary use that's already in the game by default which is to quickly pull u but u should be able to cancel it to use the speed instead of having it pull u in a corner and stuck.
No one uses grapple hook so make it better.
Have better thermal vision filter cause it looks ugly and have it see mines and turrets through walls cause they shread light players.
Have a healing dart gun for light players that gives teammates heath 50 instantly and jump starts the healing process quicker.
Have a poison dart gun varient that does little poison damage but lower bullet velocity and less tracking time.
Rework cloak into chameleon ability where invis goes away after 6 seconds on ground (can use vanish bomb combo for longer on ground) but stays longer when u r stuck on walls or cellings and u can use gravity to walk on any structure,u can creep fast but when u r upright and have to shoot u r easier to spot,it's great on large maps where u can do secondary throwing knife attack from the celling or fall down from there and use dagger or sword.
U can even go around buildings to escape.
Cloak is annoying as time to kill is faster they just vanish at will and shoots out of nowhere,we don't have recon senses and thermal gadget is ugly.

What do u think???

[patent bloom]

just make grappling hook with 2 charges. or decrease cd. its decent but evasive dash or cloak just powercreep it imo

and again, imma repost my idea in this channel so i can get feedback on how crappy it is:

New ability/gadget idea: reprogramming beam
basically what this thingy does is reprogramming enemies turrets, mines and etc. so that enemies defence could be used against them. quite niche but still, decent concept imo (also it could have multiple charges, 3 for example)

[wise briar]

Wow you put a lot of thought in it. It sounded as if you wanted Lights to be overpowered even more......

[patent bloom]

thermal would have more use if there was an extinguisher, sorta smoke grenade spammer

[wise briar]

i dont agree with the healing darts. Lights arent support class and they shouldnt be since they're already have too much DPS

[modern jay]

would being able to equip the same gadget twice break the game? you double the amount of charges at the price of only having one gadget 🤔

[warped quiver]

hmm, I think that would get too crazy then and introduce lots of unbalance. since you can already have 3 of the same class on your team.
imagine triple medium all with double APS; that would lead to 6 active APS turrets
or triple light, 6x stun gun? etc etc

[modern jay]

could be like a special gamemode?

also i think after a while people would start getting more creative than just "6 of the same gadget go brr"

[mellow lodge]

Not more aps, ones already too much

[grave remnant]

Healing darts is a great idea for medium same as healing nades

[modern jay]

healing dart i don't think fits the finals, but a heal nade i can totally see

id love if it healed both teammates and enemies

[restive plover]

I just want to swing like spiderman and nerf cloak,tell me why it's op

[modern jay]

Hammond grappling hook would be so fun

[grave remnant]

And self

[modern jay]

maybe have it heal a tad less to yourself but essentially have it heal everyone

[grave remnant]

Lol but if you heal enemies its fun 😂

[modern jay]

also adds skill

and more importantly chaos

[grave remnant]

Same as invis nade, I think it give more time for mates than yourself

[grave remnant]

And trolls among randoms 😂

[modern jay]

run double heal with a friend and make it physically impossible to win for your random teammate 🙃

[restive plover]

@modern jay attack on titan odm gear?

[modern jay]

idk much about aot

[grave remnant]

Lights have double invis, heavies have double shield why not double heal for meds

[restive plover]

@modern jay only to heal a little and jumpstart healing

[rapid flicker]

Had a random idea for a gadget; basically the same as the light’s vanish bomb, but rather than making teammates invis, jt gives them a temporary speed boost?

[potent ledge]

Day 3 of asking for 50 cal wepons or ammo

[hoary wren]

[fickle charm]

3 heavies with 3 rpgs each is what I imagine now

[modern jay]

3 rpgs is already possible, i think you mean 6 😉

[modern jay]

minecraft speed + jump boost potions combined into one gadget could be cool

pretty boring but effective

[rapid flicker]

I don’t think it would be that boring tbh. Would make for some cool team rotations on cash outs, plus imagine if your team splits up, suddenly 3 people attack from all over

[modern jay]

i mean its boring concept wise, just some flat stat buffs

boring concept wise, effective gameplay wise

[atomic otter]

hoi

[vocal flume]

fix the defib, its kinda ass with the new change, whats the point when you can just do a quick revive and make a Cool Down on the player you revived. Or increase the revive speed. i dunno the new one is just kinda shit tbh

[wise briar]

Yeah it sucks that this happens to you and your team but it doesnt suck when it happens to the enemy team yeah?

[visual shard]

.

[restive plover]

Invis ability was made when all players were tanky but now since it's milliseconds to kill it's very out of place to do it at will.

[fickle charm]

Fake vault gadget to prank people

[dawn glen]

Heavy and sledgehammer

Heavy and shotgun
Light and shotgun
Light and dagger
Light and sword
Medium and riot shield
Medium and shotgun

[mystic nimbus]

hoi

[cold coyote]

dagger representation 🥰

[dull elbow]

What the hell is the new recoil pattern from Lewis gun

[mystic nimbus]

https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/2456223158365304886/4F8FB01FB75F65098CE70337A46CD9C6D2049401/

but that's the old one i believe

[potent ledge]

That is the m 60

I think

[mystic nimbus]

ah yeah

he probably removed the lewis gun

[potent ledge]

Mby i don't know.

[thick valve]

L defib main

[mental cedar]

am level one but still not able to join vc

[restive plover]

Hey game Devs look at the comments here 💀💀💀
This game used to be fun but now the time to kill is like call of duty,all these interesting gadgets but players die in literal milliseconds like we r playing a cod reskin so we don't have the time to get creative and have fun cause we die so fast.
This game at launch player were too tanky and too much health and now it's milliseconds NO JOKE.The balance is somewhere in between.
make the medium and light class less like call of duty.Heavy mesh shield sides should break cause it's so abrupt to being out the shield whenever and heavy to already high health have a bullet sponge shield that other teammates won't bother to change their targets just come to u to break the enemy shield.
If u have to make a different server that's like hardcore ranked and make that like call of duty but let us player enjoy the game and have the time to kill long enough to make use of gate way.
Make turrets have recon senses with in its range and reduce fire rate and range it's like an annoying hitscan weapon,this is the finals game not teamfortress or cod warzone.
U can make turret show recon senses when enemies r hit or sonar when u go them and reduce the damage and make it a less offensive hitscan weapon.

[versed moat]

can we not nerf the c4 in every way possible though? basically just removed it from the game by nerfing everything about it. I might as well be running explosive mines now

[versed moat]

outdated comment, they like rebuffed everything for the last few days of the season and then changed it back this season

ttk is pretty long now

me personally I preferred the longer ttk it made the game unique

[hardy trout]

im having a lot of trouble beating heavies as a medium main. it feels very, very difficult to win gunfights even if they have terrible aim and i have quite good aim

any tips?

[opal pine]

just use FCAR

[icy iron]

FCAR might help

[hardy trout]

haha yeah youre probably right. im using the AK right now just because of mag size

but ill give the fcar a second chance ty for the advice

[tall talon]

TRYING TO GET LVL ONE!

TRYING TO GET LVL ONE!

[warm seal]

best light build weapon currently?

[sullen token]

I love the XP54 but the LH1 is also solid if you can deal with the recoil.

[warm seal]

M11 not viable?

[sullen token]

It’s OK. I just don’t like the sights.

That’s a personal preference tho.

[rich quest]

Hi

[restive plover]

[zealous horizon]

Xp54 with cloak is amazing for light

[rugged hound]

throwing knives, m11, xp54, all good imo

[midnight mango]

Why did embark feel the need to give the china lake a year long reload time

[viscid vessel]

the riot shield could have a skin where the stick is a wood stick and the shield could be a big piece of bark

[ashen fiber]

Yes same

[chilly turret]

Methinks the XP-54 needs a nerf

[grand mica]

most op weapon rn?

[fading kite]

I just had a great idea for the nuke nerf

[tender minnow]

Im having trouble switching off flamethrower as heavy because of how ridiculously low effort it is to use and get value out of it. Can anyone recommend a decent gun on heavy I could use in ranked/powershift?

[tender minnow]

Flamethrower

[fading kite]

they should revert the c4 nerf, and just make it so that only one explosive can be attached to an object

[vestal pier]

no

[fading kite]

just think about it

[vestal pier]

I did and I think they did a better nerf than that

[fading kite]

but now that one achievement is basically unobtainable

[tender minnow]

What achievement?

[fading kite]

put a mine on an object and get someone with the mine

[tender minnow]

I already have it, more than likely. I’m just trying figure out which one it is. I get most achievements by sheer accident

[chilly turret]

Use the M60 or the SA12. I would recommend the KS23 but I don’t really think putting effort into your gameplay is what you’re looking for

[fading kite]

Lewis gun is surprisingly good

[tender minnow]

Update: what if my aim is dog

[chilly turret]

get good, shitter

[tender minnow]

Thanks mom

[chilly turret]

Anytime

Now go, do a crime

[tender minnow]

Im working, I need this job so I can give embark 9.99 every season

[chilly turret]

That’s fair

[opaque plume]

Need to reduce the damage a flame thrower does. In power shift people use 5 flame throwers as heavies and just sit on the platform now obviously this Isn't very difficult to counter but when they have trophy systems that shoot grenades then it makes It a lot harder for it to get captured. I really hope in the near future that the heavies flamethrowers damage could be reduced.

[tender minnow]

I literally do this. Switch to someone with a glitch grenade and go ham. They’re sitting ducks

Glitch + snipers. Easy kills

[opaque plume]

Ah thanks for the tip

[chilly turret]

I fuckin hate snipers

[tender minnow]

Get good, shitter

[opaque plume]

I had 4 sitting on top of a crane once and blasting the shit out of me

[opaque plume]

That's not something you see every day

[chilly turret]

300lb woman with a shotgun coming down from on high like the asteroid that took out the dinosaurs

[azure wing]

lol

[tender minnow]

Wished that were me

[torn eagle]

f

[hasty hawk]

New game mode invalidates light

[chilly turret]

lmao

[hasty hawk]

Also hard to revive on platform

[azure wing]

is ak still best for medium

[potent temple]

Light class is best to stay on roofs and attack the platform without actually touching it

[hasty hawk]

Yeah with sniper but most of the equipment isn’t viable

Some stuff like gateway can be helpful but that’s still kinda janky

[potent temple]

Frag grenades to do damage to multiple people on platform, gateway to move in an emergency between points, and thermal vision to see through any smoke

[woeful agate]

give aps a cooldown between shots

it shouldnt be able to eat back to back nades and rockets

[atomic raft]

Hey

[round furnace]

hey

[round furnace]

how u been my guy

[vestal pier]

dematerializer is S-tier

[hasty hawk]

A but yeah

[vestal pier]

S not A

[hasty hawk]

It’s rlly good

[wide pike]

What would be the best gadgets for light

[hasty hawk]

Rn gas and stun are really good but they need sometime other than breach charge to break stuff

[desert latch]

Need a suppressed battle rifle for the Heavy slow rate of fire mid damage

[spare leaf]

question: what are the different scenarios where a zipline would be more useful than a jump pad?

I've been trying to use the zipline some more, but I can't really find its merits compared to the pad

[proper blade]

i prefer jumppad in general tbh lol

[hearty zealot]

I can't use the jackpot juggle animation, or even any inspect animation on any guns

[obsidian gust]

jackpot juggle never works for me ether.. i was hoping it’d be fixed with s2

[midnight prairie]

Same here

[mystic nimbus]

Heavy meta combo?

[versed wolf]

Lewis gun, dome shield, mesh shield, rpg, whatever else you want for your last gadget

Or the auto shotgun

[daring holly]

buff grav cube by making it rise faster possibly larger radius of effect 100% make it go higher. buff the new shotgun more accurate faster ads time slightly faster reload

[urban stone]

hi

I have to chat to unlock vc

[karmic solar]

What is the best grenade

Just want to see some opinions

[mystic nimbus]

That's literally my build, but i pick charge n slam

Also antigravity cube need a rework 😂

[stoic dove]

Gas for defense, frag for offense IMO

[stoic dove]

How so?

[lavish gate]

i think i'd be a very happy nb if we got an fal or some sort of dmr on medium

and maybe a 50 cal sniper/deagle on heavy for all the marbles

[mystic nimbus]

You can't float freely inside of it

[stoic dove]

You also sometime fall out of it, it feels

[spare leaf]

Fire bombs are kind of underused in my opinion. They are good to hold down a small position and force the enemy to move, and its the natural counnter to gas

[hallow leaf]

pyro for utility you get both damage and the ability to remove goo and gas also fire stays on an area like a moving platform while gas does not

[stoic dove]

It feels like Pyro is shorter than Gas. Hence the reason I use Gas preferably

[mystic nimbus]

Yeaaaaah

[hallow leaf]

pyro does have a smaller area and time but you get so much more utility

also gas gets countered easily by a flamethrower

[spare leaf]

its also just a good opening move to throw it in your enemy's face and start smoking them
its a good light deterrent

[lavish gate]

i smell bacon flavoured ospuze...

[stoic dove]

That's fair enough, though.

[tough sparrow]

Anybody got any tips for the Dagger?

[lime osprey]

On the guitar skin for the heavy, there is a bridge plate for no reason which would not be there

as a guitar repairman it erks me

plz fix lol

[wicked sundial]

does anyone else find the new pump action extremely fun yet very difficult to get used to?

[verbal apex]

I'd say jumpad is often the favored one. But it seems simple to me: Jumpad for vertical movement and zipline for horizontal. Obviously both can give both horizontal and vertical movement, but I'd say zip excells at crossing big gaps and jumpad excells at going up high but not as far a distance

[winged maple]

lol

[candid prairie]

I don't know if I am doing something wrong or if I just have to delete the class and remake it again but the jackpot juggle is not sticking when I have it selected it'll deselect for me

With the akm

[proper blade]

yeah, its a fun weapon but as you said its very hard to get used to.

[proper blade]

try equiping it through the "equipment" screen not the contestants maybe? idk

[candid prairie]

I have tried that it does say it's equipped just doesn't show it in game

[hallow leaf]

Jump also pairs better with the new dematerializer

[lucid pier]

anyone knows how slow the damn slug shotgun is cuz people saying its projectile base I get dat but like even at close range I shoot at a guy standing still and it doesnt hit for anything

[raven silo]

i see the most people use it on seoul tbh. just crossing the large gaps and sometimes attaching to moving platforms has its uses

[proper blade]

ah right sorry idk then

[candid prairie]

No problem thanks for the suggestions

[restive plover]

🔥Rework abilities 🔥
Have grapple hook have a primary use which can hook and swing and use momentum to go places and up high structures manually slightly faster then ziplines,it has 2 uses.
Have a secondary use that's already in the game by default which is to quickly pull u but u should be able to cancel it to use the speed instead of having it pull u in a corner and stuck.
No one uses grapple hook so make it better.
Have better thermal vision filter cause it looks ugly and have it see mines and turrets through walls cause they shread light players.
Have a healing dart gun for light players that gives teammates heath 50 instantly and jump starts the healing process quicker.
Have a poison dart gun varient that does little poison damage but lower bullet velocity and less tracking time.
Rework cloak into chameleon ability where invis goes away after 6 seconds on ground (can use vanish bomb combo for longer on ground) but stays longer when u r stuck on walls or cellings and u can use gravity to walk on any structure,u can creep fast but when u r upright and have to shoot u r easier to spot,it's great on large maps where u can do secondary throwing knife attack from the celling or fall down from there and use dagger or sword.
U can even go around buildings to escape.
Cloak is annoying as time to kill is faster they just vanish at will and shoots out of nowhere,we don't have recon senses and thermal gadget is ugly.

[zinc kiln]

Is mediums grenade launcher any good? I love using it and the skins for it are awesome but I don't want it to hold me back massively

[copper grail]

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/6ib3FJU22yI

[lucid pier]

Ive seen a SHIT ton of lights using grapple hook especially in power shift idk wym

[hallow leaf]

You can cancel it though....

[restive plover]

@lucid pier that's the worst game mode when flamethrower and explosives r spamed it doesn't count

[lucid pier]

depends its a good oppressor but other then dat eh

[lucid pier]

how its SNIPERS using dat SPECIFICALLY in dat mode

[restive plover]

@hallow leaf I get pulled in a corner always how do I cancel it?

[hallow leaf]

just click the ability again

[restive plover]

@hallow leaf ok I will try it.
But I kinda want to not be restricted to one swing.
Because it's ok fast it would be op more then one but what about another swing grapple hook that doesn't pull u,it would be fun to swing freely in the map

[hallow leaf]

you can go into practice to test it

[restive plover]

Practice should have unlimited ability but nooooo

[uncut shoal]

whats the best light weapon and specialization combo

[proper blade]

Depends on ur playstyle i like dash and xp-54 but some might prefer cloak with another weapon idk

[uncut shoal]

is the m11 good? i want to use it because i love the new bp skin

[proper blade]

Yeah, the m11 is good i just prefer xp 54 cus it works from more ranges while m11 is mostly close range

[uncut shoal]

yeah i see myself struggling to get close because i play solo and its kinda a gamble if my team will make an opening or not, ill give the xp a shot

[proper blade]

If u want to use the m11 skin go for it, they are both good weapons lol, i think cloak works better for m11 tho as you can get up close easier, anyway gl in ur games

[uncut shoal]

ive been using dash with m11 thank you 😭

[proper blade]

I sometimes use dash m11 too its good, just maybe use vanishbomb aswell? Idk

[fathom cradle]

Did you guys see the sticky note skin on fcar? Its in the season 2 intro for a second. Does anyone know something more about it?

[quasi jetty]

whats a good ks-23 heavy build

[snow stone]

they need to buff the famas

[short bay]

turret is too op

[brave tinsel]

is ks23 good?

[narrow bane]

no... they need to nerf the fcar

[wheat path]

High risk high reward, hard to aim but does huge damage

[hallow leaf]

battle pass level 69

[grand meadow]

the fcar is balanced imo

[small abyss]

is there any one class that seems OP right now?

[worn smelt]

reworking cloak to become a chameleon ability like you said would be terrible. light class is all about movement and with your suggestion would encourage lights who use that ability to camp more and it would for sure be more annoying than cloak

[restive plover]

Should do both.

Lower scar firerate and increase reload time. Give the famas at least 3 more bullets, lower burst interval.

[worn smelt]

famas already shreads tho

[restive plover]

If you drill the head with every burst and never miss, which is a lot more effort than either automatic to still be worse than the scar.

@worn smelt yeah but cloak on ground and smg melting everyone from no where is more annoying,this isn't the best but the next best thing,give an alternative to cloak if u have any ideas.
If u want nerf then have chameleon(gravity hands) light only attack when on ground and walk on other vertical structures with cloak.

🔥Rework abilities 🔥
Have grapple hook have a primary use which can hook and swing and use momentum to go places and up high structures manually slightly faster then ziplines,it has 2 uses.
Have a secondary use that's already in the game by default which is to quickly pull u but u should be able to cancel it to use the speed instead of having it pull u in a corner and stuck.
No one uses grapple hook so make it better.
Have better thermal vision filter cause it looks ugly and have it see mines and turrets through walls cause they shread light players.
Have a healing dart gun for light players that gives teammates heath 50 instantly and jump starts the healing process quicker.
Have a poison dart gun varient that does little poison damage but lower bullet velocity and less tracking time.
Rework cloak into chameleon ability where invis goes away after 6 seconds on ground (can use vanish bomb combo for longer on ground) but stays longer when u r stuck on walls or cellings and u can use gravity to walk on any structure,u can creep fast but when u r upright and have to shoot u r easier to spot,it's great on large maps where u can do secondary throwing knife attack from the celling or fall down from there and use dagger or sword.
U can even go around buildings to escape.
Cloak,it was made when players were tanky and had a lot of health but now it is annoying as time to kill is faster they just vanish at will and shoots out of nowhere,we don't have recon senses and thermal gadget is ugly.

[stiff crescent]

50Cal for Heavy

[lethal tulip]

Best weapons for ttk rn?

[proud parcel]

I'm not sure why it's so complicated for embark to nerf this fucking thing. It's extraordinarily annoying and still requires a near 0 amount of skill.

[worn smelt]

which is why fcar needs a nerf

[restive plover]

Akm also out damages it.

[zealous horizon]

If I am using a heavy solhould I use sa auto or Lewis gun

I also have mesh shield

[chilly turret]

SA12

Totally not biased

[upbeat spire]

Need to patch this shotgun pf course

[restive plover]

🗡️Make dagger secondary attack have 60damage cause people miss mostly and get melted my smg and assault guns all the time.
🗡️Remove dagger auto aim as it prevents backstabs hitbox,sword has more range,auto aim,no accuracy but consistently high damage.
🗡️As sword already has a fast lunge high damage with a mini dash with evasive dash combo it's op,but dagger has awkwardly slow backstab.
Plz add:
🗡️A fast downwards thrust lunge attack when falling using dagger that does 100damags.
🗡️Use secondary attack on vertical structure for climbing and wall jump(higher jump from walls) to fall to do the downwards thrust.
Remember that sword can lunge dash combo 360° but dagger can't do much in terms of movement.

[latent herald]

İ think the problem with auto shotty isn't even a problem if we take ability to reset while helding mesh or being busy w something else no?
if that makes the weapon too useless (which i think it's still gonna be strong), make that maximum amount of single burst 5 or 6 to be more defensive or balancing out for giving up on safety? No?

[obsidian spindle]

Give thermal footprints 🗣️🗣️🗣️

[devout zenith]

yo

[restive plover]

Any one have an idea how I could get the models of the guns? I would love to create skins for my favorite weapons... but sort of lost...

[modest ferry]

hey, whats the general census on the m60? worth anything or nah?

[restive plover]

Actually great now with the reduced recoil.

[agile pebble]

zoom zoom vroom vroom with dashes and hope the backstab actually hits

[steep shoal]

Sonar buff plox

[royal relic]

Don't use it. :p

But really though, if you wanna use melee in this game, Sword is the best. Trying to bring out the best in Dagger would literally just be a worse sword unless you have 100% perfect play.

Otherwise, it's mostly just using high sensitivity and getting good with evasive dashing into backstabs.

[dreamy hare]

Every weapon is great in my opinion, but please add a LITTLE BIT more speed to pump action on ks23 to improve his firerate, that all... Dont need mega speed, only little bit

[cursive reef]

For sustained fire and decent dmg output? Not bad. While sure the Lewis is nice and more accurate, you get less rounds meaning you have to make your shots count.

[proud schooner]

add a collimator for 93R> to boost it a bit

[reef sage]

Weapon suggestions: Desert Eagle for heavy(they don't have a handgun atm but I think they deserve one. This handcanon could fill this role cuz c'mon, it's a fucking Desert Eagle)
M1911 for medium( I think it would be great for medium to have some options with handguns because just the revolver isn't enough in my opinion. This pistol would be something in between the revolver and light's pistol

[narrow garnet]

Idk if someone on console also noticed that you can not cancel reloads anymore, or specifically with xbox, you can not tap Y, to cancel or release anything that you are holding

[mighty orbit]

Yeah I was talking abt this too, it really sucks I hope they change it back

[narrow garnet]

Yeah, they probably will, glad it was already a topic

[frank timber]

Yeah, I used to just use a gadget and go back to weapon, but I just melee atp.

[mighty orbit]

wait you’re talking abt like when you pick up the canisters right?

[narrow garnet]

Yeah, I've been doing that, but it just take so much time on the animation to end

[frank timber]

that was supposedly a “bug”

[narrow garnet]

Anything actually, even teamates lol

[frank timber]

well you can just use l1 (I think it should be l2 for non flipped?)

[polar gazelle]

I was thinking about new abilities for each class, here are my ideas:
-light: double jump and Wall climbing
-medium: damage boost beam (something like the heal bean but worse)
-heavy: half-invulnerability for 5 seconds (something like invisibility for light)

[obsidian spindle]

Make a specialization which gives a passive activity 🗣️🗣️

[frank timber]

get out of the studio

[modest ferry]

Hey guys, wondering what the thoughts on the new portal gadget is around here, since I believe it’s good and can be used in a fair variety of scenarios, including team transport, flanking behind a team if they’re pushing you, instantly moving vault, portal trapping, etc, but my friend thinks it’s very bad and can’t really be used for anything, so what are your guys’s thoughts?

[frank timber]

It’s basically the lights zipline, definitely a good gadget to use

[spare leaf]

I use it often
It’s really good for suppressive fire and for just shredding shields, and at medium range its pretty strong if you learn how to fight its recoil and fire it in bursts

[polar gazelle]

I don't understand what's wrong with the concept?

[cloud anchor]

Would you say it's better than Lewis at close range?

[terse raptor]

And they should also buff lights burst pistol in damage

[agile aspen]

That change was intentional, it stops the bug of accidentally dropping the cashout box when trying to Zipline. Basically Y is for swapping to primary and L2 is the button for dropping things, but most people were just switching to primary to drop things which was causing issues. Because Y is ALSO used for interacting with stuff. Now when you're holding the cashout Y is dedicated to interacting with things and L2 is dedicated to dropping things.

[frank timber]

Light-why would that even make sense? All it does is double jump and wall climbing??? This isnt bo3 bro 💀 dash does that

Medium- basically mercy… and that’s going to be wayy too op as you’re saying it (sa12/lew/m60 heavy’s being pocketed…)

Heavy-just invincibility? On the most hp class that’s the most broken rn? You’re insane

[spare leaf]

Generally just because of the large magazine size yes, but I can’t really give a concrete answer right now. What I would say is that the lewis falls into the category of “do better” weapons similar to most unlockable weapons in Team Fortress.
If you are more skilled with aiming and managing the recoil and timing your reloads then the lewis outclasses the M60 in most scenarios.

[cloud anchor]

I see, thank you 👍 I've hardly used the M60, but will give it another go

[tranquil ferry]

model 1887 has the potential to be good, but i feel like most people dont use it right

[fickle charm]

Anyone else killed themselves with the charge n slam? like actual damage to yourself with it.

[golden adder]

Nope

[lucid pier]

its good for stalling cashouts other then dat prob useless with how slow it brings u up

[severe vortex]

Whats the best weapon in the game?

[marble drum]

hi

[restive plover]

🗡️Make dagger secondary attack have 60damage cause people miss mostly and get melted my smg and assault guns all the time.
🗡️Remove dagger auto aim as it prevents backstabs hitbox,sword has more range,auto aim,no accuracy but consistently high damage.
🗡️As sword already has a fast lunge high damage with a mini dash with evasive dash combo it's op,but dagger has awkwardly slow backstab.
Plz add:
🗡️A fast downwards thrust lunge attack when falling using dagger that does 100damags and a slide lunge similar to sword but for dagger
🗡️Use secondary attack on vertical structure for climbing and wall jump(higher jump from walls) to fall to do the downwards thrust.
Remember that sword can lunge dash combo 360° but dagger can't do much in terms of movement.

[elfin heath]

DID YOU NERF THE MP5

[leaden plinth]

Famas buff nerf fcar

[warm lion]

technically they did

[warm lion]

a 10 damage buff on a missed backstab isn't gonna help much 😂

[elfin mango]

M60 best

[restive plover]

@warm lion it's main power is the downwards lunge attack so dagger is better choice for ambush.

[elfin mango]

no

[warm lion]

the main power is its potential to do one shot almost everyone
and 100 isn't that powerful still compared to sword's 140 damage right click

[restive plover]

@warm lion I said 100damage cause it can already one shot people

[warm lion]

why bother doing 100 damage in an ambush when in the same time you could just one shot them instead

[restive plover]

@warm lion because the movement is awkward compared to the mini dash u get for the sword.
Doing backstabs to light's hitbox is like a lottery so and downward lunge plus melee can one shot like swords lunge melee combos

[warm lion]

you shouldn't be trying to backstab lights anyway

[restive plover]

@warm lion what do I do when there r 2 lights melting player with fast smgs when using dagger?

[elfin heath]

How

[warm lion]

go read the patch notes

[brisk silo]

FCAR.

[sullen frost]

Can there maybe be made for heavy a baretta but as a gadget or something but that it only has 6 bullets per life but it is a one shot

[restive plover]

@warm lion go learn dagger
https://youtu.be/ivqW8VHY9fM?si=cqvk7I8vHfwgERdE

[warm lion]

https://tenor.com/view/aslan-do-not-cite-the-ancient-magic-to-me-witch-i-was-there-when-it-was-written-narnia-the-chronicles-of-narnia-gif-13149002

[restive plover]

U a pro dagger like this guy?

[warm lion]

been playing it since cb1

[last solar]

I thought about heavy sniper with bullet drop that have slow fire rate but can one shot head shot mid and head shot then melee heavy

[cyan forum]

I Like that. Sounds nice

[nova quiver]

Ong i was thinking about a heavy sniper but they gave us slug round shotgun for heavy

[idle sky]

you mad man! they already hate snipers enough as is

[sudden chasm]

93R needs some longer range tlc

[cyan forum]

Me too but most people hate it when they get quickscoped so heavy sniper has to be programmed different.

[idle sky]

tru, luke a prone only sniper or something

[sand root]

Aps turret is to weak

[brittle yoke]

aps turret is so good what?

[dense topaz]

I don’t think turrets should be allowed to be placed on the platform in the 5v5.

But the only issue with that would be that you could get so many grenade or rpg kills and that could be very annoying.

[cyan forum]

Placing objects on the platform should generally be prohibited

[golden adder]

Nah there’s not enough cover to not be allowed to place things on it.

[pallid cedar]

Nerf the SA12

[blazing lion]

NU UH

im joking

But whats need to be nerf about that weapen

[pallid cedar]

They nerfed the Lewis Gun which already was inferior to the SA12. It only makes sense. Not a single top500 heavy used anything other than SA12 last season

[restive plover]

🗡️Make dagger secondary attack have 60damage cause people miss mostly and get melted my smg and assault guns all the time.
🗡️Remove dagger auto aim as it prevents backstabs hitbox,sword has more range,auto aim,no accuracy but consistently high damage.
🗡️As sword already has a fast lunge high damage with a mini dash with evasive dash combo it's op,but dagger has awkwardly slow backstab.
Plz add:
🗡️A fast downwards thrust lunge attack when falling using dagger that does 100damags and a slide lunge similar to sword but for dagger
🗡️Use secondary attack on vertical structure for climbing and wall jump(higher jump from walls) to fall to do the downwards thrust.
Remember that sword can lunge dash combo 360° but dagger can't do much in terms of movement.

[supple oracle]

what is the point of smoke IF IT DOES NOT BLOCK VISION AND ITS NOT INSTANT?!

[agile aspen]

I don't know how to change it, but I wish you didn't have to have such good aim to use melee weapons... Winning in ranked with the sword and dagger requires insane mechanical skill.

[crimson matrix]

What you guys think about the new shotty for heavy? is it just me or is it kinda ass

[viscid cobalt]

the pump shotgun was more of an arena damage weapon than a damage weapon. like the sledgehammer, they had to nerf it to closer range and make it a projectile launcher.

[mossy copper]

meh

[steel dune]

It’s not a gun I’d wanna do many 1v1s with. It’s too slow and unforgiving if missing shots. Let alone it can’t score headshots

[obtuse zinc]

is it only me, but the APS that can destroy every projectile even throu wall and barricade, with unlimited use, a little overtune?

[marsh pecan]

Kanye

[steel dune]

Yeah, I think they could tone it down by stopping it from blocking projectiles through walls and limiting how many projectiles it can stop.

[obtuse zinc]

indeed, on the platform, with 2 aps and 2 heavy with barricane and domeshield, it's impossible to take back, they even block glitch grenade

[rain ingot]

Nerf m60!

Pls

I am a light and I just get beemed by heavies using this weapon

[left wolf]

Skill issue :/

[hallow leaf]

It's not impossible, go heavy with smash and flamethrower, and if you need some help have a med give you a bounce with bounce pad, it clears everything on the platform then the rest of your team can clean it up

[potent ledge]

day five of asking for a 50 cal wepon or ammo. pleas stop the cheaters

[stoic dove]

Use dots in sentences. Thanks.

[potent ledge]

what dose this have to do with the finals, and use these ,,,,, .....

[azure dawn]

It's gotta be a bot

<@&1012034066876473384> I'm sure you guys will wanna clean this up, idk how this works yet

[restive plover]

thanks man ehuehueheuh

[steel dune]

Yeah. No.

[azure dawn]

Oh damn it I made your job harder I'm sorry lol

[azure dawn]

Yeah same here, no

[glad briar]

Any tips on playing heavy with the s1216 I'm running rpg, dome shield, and c4

[azure dawn]

Are you running mesh shield?

[ebon sinew]

Has anyone noticed bugs with new medium's specialization? Many times removed walls are getting "invisible" when the nearby walls get destroyed. Ie, if you remove a part of the wall and destroy the rest the removed wall will look removed but in fact you won't be able to walk through it.
I had an issue where I removed the wall under the cash out box, the rest got destroyed and the cash out box stayed in air and no one could reach it.

[azure dawn]

No I've never seen this yet

[ebon sinew]

It happened many times with me since I mostly play with the new spec.

I'm just annoyed that I cannot report bugs since I need to login but there's no login button on the support page. Hopefully others somehow reported it.

[azure dawn]

You can report bugs here, no?

[ebon sinew]

https://id.embark.games/support

Ah, I see. The login is not available on the mobile version for some reason.

[azure dawn]

Weird...

[glad briar]

Yes

[vivid flax]

i cant find anything to complain about besides nerf heavy auto shotty

[glad briar]

I'm usually a medium player and feel like as a heavy I'm getting melted and left behind from my team how do you play heavy especially with the new season 2

[pine grail]

So are they gonna buff the unusable trash they call a shotty

[azure dawn]

Use your tools to defend yourself as much as possible, like throwing shields down in case of danger and doing as much damage as you can

And try to stick with the team

Also you can do many actions like jumping, mantling, and sliding with mesh shield up. Take advantage of it. I've had people not be able to shoot me until I start healing because I strafe them by sliding with mesh shield up

[cloud anchor]

The mesh shield is a lifesaver. Alternate between shield and returning fire if someone is picking you out. Let them waste their ammo, and once they go to reload, return fire. You can crouch slide while the shield is active, as well as activate it on ziplines, making for safer getaways

[azure dawn]

Flamethrower is def not the best pick, but the shield strat is especially effective if you're using flamethrower to pop down and do residual damage

[cloud anchor]

Yeah, shield works well with nearly everything. Good all around

[azure dawn]

Yes, but if you're gonna run sledgehammer, I'd recommend goo or charge and slam

[buoyant wing]

fcar or ak? which is better

[azure dawn]

Depends

FCAR does more damage, AK has more shots

FCAR also has a holographic sight so

[cloud anchor]

AKM is much more forgiving

[buoyant wing]

perfect thank yall

[azure dawn]

Yw! Glad to help a fellow contestant

[cloud anchor]

👍

[ashen shadow]

whats the meta for heavys now

still lewis or sa, or is the new ks23 shotgun good

also new gagdets worth it?

[lime cave]

ks23 is op rn, but dont get used to it because im sure it will get nerfed in no time

lewis is still the best option

[lime cave]

you have to have really good aim otherwise fcar is useless

[steel dune]

I’m curious, what makes the KS23 OP for you? Cause I find it pretty unreliable for anything but combo lights.

[ashen shadow]

nukes have been nerfed a fair amount again right

[glad briar]

Oh I didn't know you should croutch slide with it that's super helpful

[lime cave]

they basically dont exist anymore

[ashen shadow]

fair

[azure dawn]

How is it OP

[lime cave]

with 145ish damage per hit, you can pretty easily sneak up on a team and get a lot of damage in, but there's also the ridiculously long reload time and inaccuracy. so i guess its more balanced than i originally thought

[azure dawn]

Yeah um it's underpowered

[steel dune]

I think it’s a it toooo slow

I think giving it a 1.4x headshot multiplier would help reward being accurate

[azure dawn]

It's too slow, projectile is too big and hits things in the environment and a lot more

[lime cave]

currently it doesnt have a headshot multiplier right? or is it just really low

[steel dune]

Nope. It’s classified as a shotgun. And that means no headshot multipliers

[hoary trellis]

Light 93R is replacing the love I have for The V9S. I dunno why, but I think it has to do with smol pistol 3 round bursts are more fitted for me

[azure dawn]

It's reaaaaaly cool, but sadly, I think it does too little damage rn...

I hope they fix it later, but you use what you enjoy

[hoary trellis]

You think??? I had 7 elims in my recent power shift match!

[azure dawn]

Oh um

[hoary trellis]

Yeah, you just need the skills to make the power moves

[azure dawn]

How do I say this without being an asshole...

[azure dawn]

That's not that many

[hoary trellis]

I know, but it has a lot of potential, in there

[azure dawn]

Yes, it does, and I hope they up the damage

[steel dune]

Nah. It’s cool you can get the kills with it. But it doesn’t bring anything good to the table compared to Heavy’s other weapons.

[rough jolt]

All of the weapons they've added definitely have potential, but in the current state, they came in a bit weak. Better that than being overpowered sure, but not rewarding to use them yet.

[azure dawn]

Yes, like all the new weapons have better counterparts rn

[hoary trellis]

CNS must've had some stat tweak issues

[azure dawn]

Lmao

[rough jolt]

I've been sniped by the new heavy shotgun which I found WILD because I know that thing is difficult to use, so the niches are there... As a med main myself I was severely disappointed with the FAMAS... the 93R is probably my favorite of the new weapons rn

[steel dune]

How is the 93r? I don’t generally play light much and I wasn’t that impressed on the practice range by it’s performance.

[azure dawn]

It's fun, not practical really. Really cool design with the stock tho

[rough jolt]

It's fun to use, ttk isn't great but its fairly accurate.

[steel dune]

Do you know if it has a better damage range than the other pistol?

[azure dawn]

I think they have about the same idk

[rough jolt]

No clue. Probably not though

[plucky warren]

What’s the best gun for medium?

[azure dawn]

Can you aim or not

[steel dune]

FCAR still

[plucky warren]

Yes

[azure dawn]

FCAR

[rough jolt]

meta is FCAR, can argue AKM, any other choice needs mastery for it to be viable

[plucky warren]

Is the famas not good?

[steel dune]

I find the famas pretty punishing if you don’t land all 3 shots on target.

[azure dawn]

It's a little bit worse than FCAR, but still fun

[plucky warren]

True ig

[glad briar]

Fcar feels like if you miss your dead you have to unload the whole mag to kill peeps however the recoil is easier to handle

[rough jolt]

I think the consensus is FCAR > FAMAS > AKM. Personally I'd take the AKM over the FAMAS until they tweak the FAMAS a bit

[azure dawn]

Same

[plucky warren]

I prefer Fcar because the scope is really good for headshots but without scope it’s a bit harder

[steel dune]

Do you think shortening the burst delay might make the famas a more appealing option? That’s kinda what I’ve been thinking as ways to bring some slight balance to it.

[plucky warren]

Anyway if anyone wants to check out my new vid and give me some feedback here is the link: https://youtube.com/shorts/EtG2Yrr8hOM?si=6ZRgSgLu9w7M7t2Y

[glad briar]

Fcar is better than akm?

[azure dawn]

They have their strengths and weaknesses

[steel dune]

Honestly I’m kinda 50/50 on them. But the FCAR is statistically better. I just go down to personal preference

[rough jolt]

I have plenty of thoughts on the FAMAS... my primary issue is the mag size is too large for what it was implemented to be. They in turn reduced the damage, so it's basically a pea shooter from med-long range distances, while not being fast enough to fight short range battles.

[plucky warren]

Fr true tho

[rough jolt]

Balancing is a rabbit hole I could go down for ages. So far, they've done a great job scaling things to work out in the long-run, so I'm hopeful for what they bring to the table in the coming updates

[azure dawn]

They've already done more to balance the game than every live service Blizzard and Activision game has in their whole lifespan so

[steel dune]

Compared to COD. The balancing is a nice breath of fresh air.

[glad briar]

The famas has higher damage than both the akm and fcar so they may just very slightly increase the fire rate

[rough jolt]

I'm glad they've kept their options simple. My CoD burnout stems from the 100's of weapons to choose from, but only 2 or 3 are worth using in the meta. I don't want to spend time min-maxing a gun, I just want to pick one and play with it lol

[glad briar]

I have a question on the m1216 shotgun on console it better to hold or tap the fire button to shot the gun?

[steel dune]

Yeah. Cod’s gunsmithing really just killed the game for me. I do really like the fact that Embark says “what it is, is what you’re gonna get” regarding guns and not customizing it. At that point it just comes down to skill and utilizing the firearm to the best of your ability.

[rough jolt]

Probably situational... I rarely use it so no clue, but tapping is generally more accurate from medium range, holding for spray/close encounters.

[rough jolt]

And that's exactly what this game has done right- simplifying weapons and reducing gameplay to a player's skill with handling the different weapons capabilities.

Which is why it's so rewarding to be good at the game lol. No cheese weapons to take ya over the top

[steel dune]

Honestly, why I’m glad there’s only one sniper in this game vs the 10 in COD that are more versatile than shotguns and ARs lol.

[chilly turret]

Honestly I think the stun gun needs a big ol’ nerf. It’s basically a free kill. I play light often and it makes the gameplay loop too easy

[steel dune]

Yeah, I feel inclined to agree, in the right hands the tazer is a death sentence imo. (And I just choke when hipfiring while tazed)

I think still being able to ADS and crouch while tazed might make it a more situational piece of equipment.

[azure dawn]

Hmmmmm, they already nerfed it once

It's kind of a necessary evil in light's current state

[chilly turret]

Is it? I find that it’s not really necessary when I play light.

[glad briar]

CAN THEY PLEASE NOT AFFECT PLAYERS BEING REVIED ITS UNFAIR LIKE BRO WE CANT EVEN DO ANYTHING

Why would they allow players being revied to be shot by the stun gun

[rough jolt]

My qualm with stun gun is that it doesn't allow you to interact with doors. I get the "stun" feature interrupting captures/revives... but goodness, I can walk but not open a door?? 😦

[steel dune]

Should also not allow players to put mines and c4 on player statues lol

[chilly turret]

What the fuck is with light players. Are they acoustic?

[rough jolt]

The stacking explosive nerf has discouraged this one... Though, I do slightly agree. Moving your teammates' statue to a safe place is meaningless if they just cover it in explosives and wait for you to revive, but in my ranked experience I haven't encountered it

[chilly turret]

I feel like people treat the casual modes in this game a lil too seriously

[steel dune]

Ah, yeah. I really don’t do ranked. I stick moreso on the casual cashout and tournaments and it’s pretty common to see people putting mines on statues.

[lethal viper]

sometimes yes

[rough jolt]

I'm actually impressed that in my soloQ experience in ranked, only one teammate has messaged me to say I'm trash 😂

[chilly turret]

Also- make the KS-23 deal 5 more damage, more hipfire accurate, and pump faster. I feel like it’s just not able to compete rn and I really don’t like using the SA12

[glad briar]

Let's be real casual play is the fun do anything mode ranked is where you sweat your balls off so you can prove your really that good

[chilly turret]

It seems like the opposite to me

[steel dune]

I think that’s moreso cause casual gaming is just not what it used to be. And everyone is bringing their A game to any game that has a “casual” mode. Everyone wants to prove something by focusing more on meta than a fun playstyle.

[rough jolt]

That's an issue with SBMM in games. You can't play casually because it's always demanding your best. I'm not sure how the finals SBMM works, but I'd rather not ask. Ignorance is bliss, and as long as I can break down some walls when I want to chill, I'm happy haha.

Speaking of- environment destruction is so inconsistent with the explosives in this game 😓

That's my gripe as a med who has grenades or explosive mines to choose from for gadgets that go boom- though the dematerializer was a nice addition (a shame I run heal beam)

[azure dawn]

le finales

[tender pine]

thing is, if you play casually, SBMM will bring you more players that play casually since you're not playing your best

but maybe that's just me being bad and getting players that are somehow worse than me

[rough jolt]

That's a valid point and is probably the reason why SBMM exists to begin with. The caveat there is that you're punished for doing well while playing casually even if you aren't trying to.

[tender pine]

I guess so, just as a casual player myself it's much easier to get better when I play against people who are the same skill level as me

and I wouldn't have much fun with someone just pubstomping every game

[sonic swan]

As a ranked player its my duty to automatically think my opponents are no good cheaters whenever i die

[ebon light]

How the fiddlesticks do you break the hanging canister boxes with MGL32? Thing is more useless than the sledgehammer

[golden adder]

You just accept the gun is trash and hope they add impact damage

[zealous horizon]

Whats the best medium class?

[sand root]

Got at all Gadgets and Weapons the Icon new, but i see every skin and all the other that free, is that a bug?

[fervent stratus]

100% agree

[sand root]

don't feel like

What you guys and girls feel about the actually weapon balance, do you think they are fine? especially the older ones?

[whole cedar]

noice

[mellow lodge]

most of the guns are in a balanced, with medium being the main problem having no reason to use anything other than the fcar, light needs a higher time to kill imo as they can never win a 1v1 with both sides hitting all shots

[rough jolt]

New weapons are mid, not as useful in the situations they were implemented for as they should be.

Meta hasn’t changed, but Embark has done plenty of balances and I’m certain they’ll arrive at a good place after a couple updates. Overall a positive experience with tunes in general. Nothing feels too broken, but FCAR is definitely meta

[mellow lodge]

i'd say fcar is the only broken gun, as you have insane close range, insane medium range, very good long range and a sight

plus it out guns every single light weapon i believe

[rough jolt]

It requires accuracy, though. AKM is better close range, FCAR better medium-far while being viable up close.

[mellow lodge]

fcar has the easiest recoil in the game though

also akm is not better close range as fcar has a higher ttk, i'm not saying it's bad just fcar does everything

[sand root]

I think i agree the most. Personally i don't use the FCAR because the mag is trash. But i agree, see them a lot. I also think most balanced but the smg feel really hard when they hit you. Not sure about that. What i definitly agree is the light time to kill, it feel like the timte to kill is worse than before. And i have the feeling smg too good at distance instead they are for close combat. For exxample the smg with holo scope what do you think about these stuff?

[rough jolt]

Can’t afford to miss that many shots with the FCAR in close range, and it’s only viable at that in a 1v1, which in a team based shooter you shouldn’t expect many 1v1 encounters. That’s why AKM is better close range, and if I’m not mistaken damage is the same on both (not considering damage fall-offs) At least, that’s what the sliders suggest in the lobby

[mellow lodge]

fcar has 25 akm has 20

[sand root]

Yey that's true. I think they make the balance better than in other games. They are at very good point. But can you tell why FCAR is Meta i don't personally play it cause of the small mag

[rough jolt]

AKM has 36, FCAR has 20 🤨

[mellow lodge]

oh i thought you meant damage lol

as you said damage is the same on both

[rough jolt]

Oh I thought you meant mag size 😂

Also, the value of hip fire isn’t considered in comparisons between the two- AKM has superior hip firing than FCAR

[mellow lodge]

akm has superior hipfire?

[rough jolt]

Yes. Less spread

[mellow lodge]

i just find it wierd that the fcar and akm have the same firerate

and if you hit your shots then fcar really is just the better choice

[rough jolt]

100% agree there. But that’s the skill gap- hit your shots or you’re out of ammo before it matters

Not sure what they should do about the fire rate though. Making the FCAR slower makes it more accurate (in theory), while making it faster increases ttk by a ton… similar story with the AKM, though that might benefit from a reduced fire rate as a type of accuracy buff?

That’s an interesting thought!

[mellow lodge]

i still think medium is too strong of a class rn as well

[fickle radish]

slower fire rate increases accuracy? How?

[rough jolt]

Easier to control recoil between shots

[mellow lodge]

less recoil

[fickle radish]

the 2 things are not connected. I mean they are on the real word, but not on this type of game

slower firerate would make you lose more bullets against moivng targets, tracking is harder with a low firerate weapon imo

[rough jolt]

Pretty sure the finals is hit scan anyways?

But no- not reducing bullet speed, reducing fire rate.

It’s easier to hit a moving target with an automatic because you can let loose and at least 1 of the 20 you spray are bound to hit lol… giving you the feeling it’s “easier” to track, when it’s really just easier to hit

[mellow lodge]

yeah fire rate has ntohing to do with tracking, as the lh1 and v9s are very good light weapons

if anything more fire rate it would be more difficult as your are adjusting your movement for recoil control

[fickle radish]

It's easier to hit moving targets with a fast fire rate weapon cause when your aim is on target you can hit more bullets. Try hitting a moving layer with a 1000rpm weapon and then try hitting it with a 500rpm weapon and see

[mellow lodge]

yeah now what will miss more shots overall? the 1000rpm weapon

[rough jolt]

^^ easier to hit doesn’t equal easier to control,

[fickle radish]

Are you really struggling controlling recoil on this game?

[rough jolt]

That’s why using a an automatic akin to a semi-auto and tap firing shots is more accurate than holding down the trigger. Though, of course you sacrifice fire rate while doing so, thus increasing ttk.

[mellow lodge]

thats not the arguement 💀

[rough jolt]

Even in the game- M11 and XP9 have insane recoil patterns in comparison to FCAR/AKM (don’t use M60/Lewis enough to comment but I presume the assumption stands) yet if you hit your shots it melts. Though, the gripe of lights is you typically don’t hit shots in that spray and pray moment, and they’re squishy enough to get wiped out by stronger weapons lol

[mellow lodge]

even if lights hit every shot, fcar wins as higher ttk

thats what i don't like, the class that has the lowest health has the worst ttk

[rough jolt]

I believe that. Though, I think it’d be more beneficial to buff lights than nerf other weapons to bring ‘em down… lights are tricky though, because they aren’t built to win 1v1s

A medium should win- they simply have more health and more damage available. Whole purpose of lights is to be shifty, in and out.. not the main offensive force of a team

[mellow lodge]

the problem is that lights in and out isn't good when it has bad ttk, and people run in groups, espeically with medium having heal beam

the most useful thing i've done with light is point defense

[slow crane]

how?

[mellow lodge]

as stun gun insta cancels cashout being takin

[slow crane]

ok gotcha

what do you guys run in quick cash tournaments for light? Invis or Dash and what gadgets?

[mellow lodge]

my way to run light, is move to the top left and pick another class 🤣

in all honestly i believe dash, invis nade, nade and stun gun is a good combo

[rough jolt]

That’s the skill gap of the light— you aren’t supposed to be running with your group in tandem, rather finding angles to take shots and weaken the team you’re fighting.

[slow crane]

that’s what I’ve been doing. I usually play medium with heal beam, de-fib, pyro grenade, and jump pad

[mellow lodge]

the one medium with heal beam erasing all the damage i've dealt

[rough jolt]

Focus the medium

[slow crane]

and I’m trash with heavy so I let my teammate do it

[slow crane]

I’ve been mostly doing that

new battle rifle is cracked in ps

[slim linden]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1105603204093325424/1219443541764472953/image.png?ex=660b524c&is=65f8dd4c&hm=64a333a1b4eb71ac838cdcefafdc48e937c7d3c185ddca861c63f6f292a31949&
👀

[rough jolt]

Medium heal beam/defib is the best to run if you’re not great at combat but have good game sense. I’m mediocre at best at combat, but I feel I shine with movement around the map/situational awareness of when to heal and when to push… definitely a viable role where I find the game the most enjoyable (tho I’m scummy and use FCAR ofc 😅)

[mellow lodge]

the devs just want us to use the fcar, with proof of them nerfing akm

and how meh the new ar is

[rough jolt]

Every game will have a meta, and I think the FCAR whether intentional or not will be that weapon for a good bit. I’m hoping the FAMAS will be viable after a couple of patches because it’s concept is great, but as of now everything they’ve implemented is comparatively weak

[mellow lodge]

yeah but in other games at least the meta changes

[rough jolt]

That’s true. And again what I’m hoping for with the newer weapons to have their moment…

[mellow lodge]

i'm waiting until the patch notes release before i decide if i'm done with this game

[fickle radish]

Actually playing only for the challenges and farm Battlepass. And daily challenges are not even worth anymore

[sand root]

i think the Famas need a buff, feel to weak and the scope is horrible

[mellow lodge]

all the new weapons need a buff

[sand root]

note sure about that, the weapon for the light class feels fine for me

[radiant badge]

not the shotgun lol

[mellow lodge]

the weapon thats currently competing for worst weapon in the game?

[sand root]

the damge is fine but it's way to slow

[mellow lodge]

famas is the one that is least in need of a buff, the pistol is bad compared to other light weapons

[sand root]

could be, i play the m one most of the time so i don't have the experience to disagree or agree

[mellow lodge]

i play medium and light, my brother plays heavy, the new shotgun has low accuracy and cannot win any 1v1, the famas is good at long range if you hit every shot, and the burst pistol is just not close to the other light weapons

[sand root]

okay, so let's see what they will patch, i mean i am happy about every buff. What I definitly agree is the shotgun and that famas isn't that good at close range. Also i think sights at weapons also depend on the favor and skill from the player who plays it

[mellow lodge]

yeah famas kinda bad close range, unles you are crouching and hipfiring

[night cobalt]

Buff the riot shield by making it 15% wider. Do 5% more damage and have 3% more range.

[tacit nacelle]

why do they leave med weapon meta alone tho?

[tacit nacelle]

new shotgun should do at least 125

also, buff flashbang?

[tacit nacelle]

they should get a healing speed buff so that hit and run is an effective playstyle without being straight up assassination

[tacit nacelle]

they arent supposed to win a 1v1 with both sides hitting light is small and fast so that they arent hit as much
dhould be smaller tho. difference between them and med is too small

[tacit nacelle]

most of the scopes in this game are terrible ToT

[night cobalt]

The flash bang doesn’t need a buff to its overall use. It needs above to how fast they refresh and how long they last. Make it, so they last 5% shorter. Make the cool down 10% faster.

[tacit nacelle]

this is what i was thinking
just buff its cd

also change the screen to not be white
sudden flash of white can actually be harmful for ppl ToT

[soft latch]

For next season, i hope they make semi auto sniper; fast fire rate but low-med damage, with a scope

[tacit nacelle]

or make flashbang last like 10% longer for vision but give sound back

[tacit nacelle]

basically scoped lh1?

[night cobalt]

If they give sound back then they should probably make it last for 15% longer instead because if you’re smart know what you’re doing and have your volume cranked up and have high sensitivity once you get the markers you’ll be able to track them

Or instead of doing this, make it so you can’t hit Friendly’s I was playing the new game mode and whenever I push on the point people who run flash bang, mostly harmony teammates more than it actually helped

[soft latch]

The lh1 behaves more of a close range weapon

[tacit nacelle]

dont give hit markers during

[tacit nacelle]

PLEASE

[night cobalt]

That may be to op

On god man the amount of randoms who have accidentally hit me in the face with it is wild. I’m in the middle of a gunfight, and all I see is this thing dropping the middle of the floor and somehow my opponent doesn’t get blind

[tacit nacelle]

give it a scope and it would work long range
its a short range weapon because its iron sight is ass

[night cobalt]

Low-key I really want them to bring back nukes

[soft latch]

I think ur mistaken by its visual recoil

[tacit nacelle]

ur right i mean its visual recoil ToT

[tacit nacelle]

i think they killed them a bit toooo much make them niche but usable

[night cobalt]

They can make so the c4 does 50 damage a piece three seconds before it can be used 45 seconds for 1. If it’s on a container, make it 15% slower if both of them are on there

[tacit nacelle]

also, propane tanks should explode on impact instead of bouncing