💣┇weapons-gadgets

[night ferry]

ranked is only solo ? is that changing?

[untold raft]

Nah I meant cause he don't have a premade

[indigo ravine]

what gadets and specialties are best with light build

like sword or xp54

[violet cosmos]

cloak is the best for survivability, dash for aggression, and grapple if you want to suffer

[sage lance]

The dash is super good when you're in gunfights

[glacial shell]

so what counters the green toxic smoke?

[violet cosmos]

pyro grenade

toss one into it and it'll all go away

[indigo ravine]

what do i use for gadets

[glacial shell]

what else?

[violet cosmos]

that is it

[glacial shell]

ok how do u counter fire

[violet cosmos]

depends, I like running stun gun for heavies and gas grenades for the sake of stopping caps

[violet cosmos]

smoke grenades

[indigo ravine]

ah alr alr

[reef bronze]

I had no idea you could do that

[violet cosmos]

smokes are horrible and I never take them, but you can find fire extinguishers that you can chuck at fire to put them out

[indigo ravine]

which gun is better xp 54 or lh1

[violet cosmos]

XP

[glacial shell]

[radiant python]

you can also counter with smoke barrels found around the map

[radiant python]

it depend on your playstyle

[indigo ravine]

xp 54 is easier so i think i'll stick with that

[severe flower]

Will Turkish language support come?

[radiant python]

ye i recomend you do

[radiant python]

as in help or what ?

[silent bear]

There is currently no anti cheating activity, no matter how aggressive the hackers are, I haven't seen any of them banned. When do you plan to restart anti cheating

[fluid imp]

Which light gun is best used with dash?

[radiant python]

it depends on your playstyle but the most easier for me atleast is the xp-54 since it is easy to contol or you could use the shotgun for high amount of damage

[silent bear]

December 7th to December 9th. I have seen a very strong anti cheating campaign, and I have seen a large number of bans. Many hackers cannot persist for more than 3 hours, but after December 9th, anti cheating has been completely shut down. I have not seen any hackers being banned. May I ask why this is happening

[wet dune]

To any dev, there IS a problem with hiding grenade in light build, I used it once and didn't stop being invisible even tho I'm shooting, dashing or banking Can you guys add this to your Fixlist pls
Btw nerf RPG pls

Pls

[echo ginkgo]

It's only a visual bug for you, you are not actually invisible to other. had it happen to me as well.
And no, don't nerf RPG, it's a perfect counter to lights. Normaly light is a counter to heavy. and without RPG they would have no counter play.
The rpg only takes like 70% hpn on direct hit on a medium.. and barelly scratches a heavy.

Just learn to counterplay. glitch grenade = they can't use shield or any abilities = ez target.

[noble wren]

When game released revolver had 76 damage, right now its 74 i cant find the patch where it been reverted

[ivory fog]

The flamethrower is so over powered it NEEDS a nerf real soon who agrees?

[median sierra]

Underpowered imo

[wet dune]

I mean nerf it by 5% in everything so that it's at least a bit skilled

[warm lion]

bro that shit was hard gutted
no it doesn't

[ivory fog]

İdk i always die in seconds from the flamethrower

[wet dune]

Flamethrower balanced

[warm lion]

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[ivory fog]

💀

[warm lion]

literally all you need to do

[ivory fog]

Ok

[wet dune]

What build r u using ?

[ivory fog]

M

[wet dune]

Btw you are right just not right enough

[wet dune]

Try pading away

[ivory fog]

İ don't use the pad

İ use the defibrillator for some reason

[wet dune]

Then put it in your reserve in case fT annoys you

[ivory fog]

İ switched it now im using the pad

[wet dune]

Hope it helps

[ivory fog]

Thanks

[wet dune]

Your welcome

[quiet drum]

is there way to test mines without shooting them

[median sierra]

The flame thrower used to litterally melt people

It’s pretty bad now needs buff

[frozen drum]

its hard to counter the flame thrower prob why they nerfed it idk

[prime pulsar]

anyone there? Can anyone help me, I can't unlink Xbox, steam and PlayStation

[burnt harbor]

Please buff the sniper 😡

[golden plank]

I feel that the flame thrower has a great visual impact on me.

I will run away when I see the flamethrower, and I will not choose to fight him.

[hollow sonnet]

All u gotta do is kite

[golden plank]

👀I usually use a lightweight character, and after hitting him with a stun gun, I will choose to go back to fight.

[vestal yoke]

The tazer sucks now omg

[round oar]

no it dosent g

[olive storm]

It should be removed lowk

[round oar]

its well good

[golden plank]

“tazer”Does it mean stun gun?

[narrow hinge]

Why does sniper not one shot head

[golden plank]

I am also curious about this question.

[round oar]

i think they ment stun gun

[vestal yoke]

No, the L can turn 90° as if nothing had happened, in beta it was practically impossible to move vertically

[wicked zinc]

Because some people are very weird and can hit heads 100% of the time

[golden plank]

There are many cheaters in this game now.

They will use plug-ins

[echo ginkgo]

Glitch grenade nerfs the RPG by 100% dmg btw.

[hallow leaf]

Glitch trap needs a better activation range

[stable igloo]

I do wish we just got a glitch nade instead of mine, I'd use it aaaall the time

[hallow leaf]

the mine is just so bad. you have to shoot it or pair it with the CL-40 to even make it useable

or throw it with a pot or something

[stable igloo]

The pot method would be fine if it broke on shields. You pretty much need to attach it to a fire or explosive barrel as it stands for that

[hallow leaf]

but it bouces off

it needs a wider activation range so it will trigger from the person with the shield

[stable igloo]

that is exactly why the barrels are important. it'll blow up as it gets close, or at least you can mostly force it to before it bounces.

but yes, I agree

[hallow leaf]

yea, but that means you have to have the luck to have one near you and you dont always have that it just needs a buff

[stable igloo]

as it stands right now the only use case I even see for the glitch mine (being in mine form) is "we fucked up and lost the point to heavies, but somehow they didn't blow it up"

[hallow leaf]

could also make it the only mine that can go through shields

as it stands the main use of it is to put on point to stop heavy shields from taking it and at that point might as well use poison

[stable igloo]

yes, but if the intent is to throw it at people to abuse the quick arm time then like.. why is it even a mine lol

[hallow leaf]

yea, i know. thats why i said to just increase its activation range

[stable igloo]

and agreed, with the lack of flamethrower heavies you'll get far more use out of gas mines

[hallow leaf]

it needs a buff regardless

any why doesnt med have smoke it would pair so well with recon

[stable igloo]

I actually thought med had smoke for the longest time. it is definitely odd that it doesn't consdering they've also got sonar as well. they go hand in hand

[restive plover]

No, its called skill

[hallow leaf]

i would rather have smoke over flash on med tbh, it'll also give med the option to put out pyro

[stable igloo]

it'll let the support class be even more supportive

[hallow leaf]

exactly

[sand geyser]

no? it was busted back then

we need to focus onm nerfing auto shotty next

[jagged falcon]

ok hear me out:

add weapon attachments (not like COD, think more R6)

add like 5 catagories, but you can only have 3 equipped at the same time, all come with a 1% movement decrease ontop of any other buffs/debuffs they have

foregrip: Commando (reduces vert recoil by 5% adds 5% more horizontal recoil), vertical (decreases horizontal recoil by 5%, adds 5% more vert recoil), Laser (is a laser, does exactly what you would think, just makes it easier to aim on hipfire, no decrease of stats, no increase of stats)
barrel: long (less dmg decrease over distances, 10% less spread, but movement penalty of 15% slower) CQB (faster movement speed for that class by 15%, and faster weapon draw, but add 10% more spread)
muzzle: Compensator (vert recoil decreases by 5% and adds like 2.5% less spread at the cost of 2.5% increase horizontal recoil), Suppressor (no shit what it does, less pew sound per pew, at the cost of 5% less dmg and higher dropoff of dmg at range because subsonic ammo, but for the first 3 shots keeps you in a vanished state if you are using that ability [light's special ability to go invis, suppressor would keep them invisible for the first 3 shots of that instead of the first taking them out of it]), CQB (5% speed increase, 5% more spread and vert recoil +5%, BUT melee does 50% more dmg), Muzzle break (horizontal recoil decrease by 5% and 2.5% less spread at the cost of 5% vert recoil
sight: holopoint (1.5X sight, same as FCAR sight) reflex (1X sight, basically FCAR sight but doesn't zoom in at all, just adds a crosshair to your gun), ACOG (the MP5 sight but with 50% more zoom), sniper scope (the sniper scope from the light class sniper)
stock: Heavy (increase hipfire accuracy/ decrease spread of bullet, at the cost of 15% movement reduction), Light( 5% more vertical recoil, 3% more spread, 10% more speed)

for example, a heavy with m60 with long barrel and compensator and laser to make a hipfire LMG, cant have 2 things from same area attached at the same time.

[tardy zealot]

don’t hire this guy

[stable igloo]

agreed, don't hire that guy

[jagged falcon]

coming from someone who looks like their twelve and someone with a depressed anime emo boy as their PFP I wouldnt be talking if i were yall

[stable igloo]

Huh

People disagree with you so you insult them, cool

[rocky oxide]

The game looks good.
I don't want another R6 or COD. Maybe the game need to NERF something. But its FUN.

[hallow leaf]

Imagine the best insult you can come up with involves an anime profile pic

[glacial pasture]

Adding weapon attachments would basically just ruin the tradeoff some guns have
Nobody would use the fcar if you could slap a sight on the ak

[misty pond]

add more weapons just that ıf you add attachments lıke arlovv saıd ıt wıll ruın ıt

[stable igloo]

There are definitely some balancing issues and changes to be made, but those will come with time (I hope) attachments to weapons could work to some level, but with how that is outlined aside from scope you're basically pushing the game to be less of a movement shooter and more like other shooters. Not only that but some things have immediate balancing issues such as the staying stealthed for 3 shots with the supressor.

[glacial pasture]

None of the weapons as of now feel unbalanced necessarily, some may be better than others in some regards but you can definitely do well with anything

[jagged falcon]

if they add more guns, all it will do is either break the game or do nothing meta is MP5 AK Lewis and those are meta for a reason, to change that, either rework how the guns work, or add guns that are insanely broken and the meta will switch to those. if someone has a better idea on how to switch the meta and make the game more fun WITHOUT a full gun rework on how everything works and changing almost everything about each gun im down to hear it. right now, attachments are the best thing to add, adds more playstyles, more strats to each character, keeps most of the base stats the same, but tweaks it slightly so you can switch the use of the gun

[jagged falcon]

when was the last time that you saw someone run the FCAR anyway lets be honest, the AK is better in every way, more ammo, better firerate, the only downside is it doesn't have a scope

[glacial pasture]

I prefer the scope on the fcar, that’s the only reason I use it

[stable igloo]

Only weapon I feel needs adjustment is the heavy's shotgun. Damn thing is pretty silly

[quartz yew]

they're* 🤓

[glacial pasture]

Glitch grenades need to have a shorter time of stun as well

That’s my biggest balance complaint really

[stable igloo]

I use fcar and I see more fcars than akms lately.

[glacial pasture]

It’s dependent on preference really, as are most guns

[quartz yew]

um to switch the meta you nerf a few weapons buff a few weapons and maybe add a gun that gives a unique playstyle 👍

[quartz yew]

also isnt the suppressed pistol the light meta bc the mp5 got nerfed

[ashen fiber]

I feel like the stealth mine should last a second or 2 longer, especially on my teammates.

[stable igloo]

The point of how guns are balanced is so they're good in different situations. No gun should be overall meta, some might be easier to use and that's fine. At higher rank they should all be an option and need balanced so they can be used within reason

[stable igloo]

They're both meta w/shotty

It's a preference thing again.

[quartz yew]

oh yeah forgot abt that

[glacial pasture]

Light also dies the quickest so it’s fair they get some of the higher ttk guns

[jagged falcon]

ok you redneck lookin headass, ur a fat white american, get outta here nobody talkin to you, if I wasn't studying human anatomy id think that every pound of fat on your body also added another chromosome to it as well, and NO SHIT CAPTAIN DUMBFUCK THAT CALLED BALANCING CHANGES, ADDING ANOTHER UNIQUE GUN TO SWITCH META WOULD MEAN MAKING A 75 ROUND LMG WITH BETTER DMG THAN THE FUCKING LEWIS GUN

[stable igloo]

Jesus who spilled your juice

[kind fable]

^

[quartz yew]

are you ok
also this picture isnt even me lol

[jagged falcon]

yah but you die so damn fast you cant do shit with it

[quartz yew]

no offense but sounds like a skill issue

[glacial pasture]

You can pop off as a glass cannon if you play carefully

[jagged falcon]

i dont play light, i play medic, almost all my friends do tho and they complain about corner camping heavies with lewis guns behind shields getting healed by medic all the fucking time, im just the messenger

[glacial pasture]

So many ways to counter campers honestly

[quartz yew]

no offense but sounds like a skill issue

[restive plover]

Awful idea

[stable igloo]

glitch grenades for the shielding and healing. don't turn a corner without more information. mediums have sonars, lights have motion sensors. Light also has breach charges to get someone out of a corner if they're genuinely just sitting there

[glacial pasture]

Play light, use glitch grenades and frags
Play medium, use recon and play carefully
Play heavy, help your teammates do that for you :p

[quartz yew]

also with light you can kinda just leave youre usually fast enough to do so unless you overcommit

[glacial pasture]

Light can get in and out pretty easily if you don’t block yourself in

[quartz yew]

ye

[restive plover]

the way I look at it, Heavy is the tip of the spear, medium is the binding, and light is the handle. Light can be a lever and allow the already good classes to be in a better position literally or figuratively by knocking off an opponent

I think people just use the class wrong, it isn't a 1v1 class that is the heavy

[jagged falcon]

is that your only comeback? or are you just too stupid to think of something, cuz rn im thinking that we need to study you because it looks like i found the chromosomal link between humans and bananas

[glacial pasture]

Heavy is fantastic support, maybe even more so than medium

[restive plover]

you are so salty all the time. He even said no offence lol

[shut widget]

[quartz yew]

[lapis estuary]

cod and r6 are pretty realistic games, finals is more future-set and not really based on modifying the guns, but your kit

its an alright idea but just doesnt fit the finals imo

[restive plover]

plus multiple weapons would just be invalidated

[glacial pasture]

I wonder what guns they’ll add in the future

[nova lava]

imagine a minigun for heavy

[jagged falcon]

thatd be broken af but fun as all hell

[glacial pasture]

Can’t tac sprint + long windup + low damage would make it balanced

[unreal sonnet]

i think a secondary weapon could be valid?

[glacial pasture]

Ehhhh

I feel like weapons that could be secondaries are already strong

[unreal sonnet]

like just a crappy pistol

even if theres no alternatives to it

[nova lava]

you'd probably win bank it very quickly with it

[nova lava]

theres been moments where i run out of ammo and i panic and end up dying for the reason that there isn't one tbf

[neat rapids]

Arm cannon for heavy instead of rocket it goes faster quicker reload buy less damage

[glacial pasture]

I feel like if you play carefully and have good cover you have plenty of time to reload

[neat rapids]

Should exist

[jagged falcon]

the RPG reload is decently quick considering how good it is

[glacial pasture]

Like I still don’t find myself dying all too often and I use the fcar which has a pretty abysmal ammo count

[nova lava]

yea i just sprint towards the enemies as a light without a care in the world

[unreal sonnet]

exactly and if youre playing light and your q is on cooldown thres not rlly a way to get out

[glacial pasture]

Light gun reload speed is relatively fast though

[unreal sonnet]

thats true

but still i think a shitty pistol or something just for all the classes would be useful

[nova lava]

it's comically when i'm very low hp that i need to reload so they just finish me off, or if i'm lucky enough to have teammates at the objective with me i get the assist

[glacial pasture]

“When I’m at very low hp”
When you play light you’re always low

[mild fjord]

Wtf

[nova lava]

only reason i use light basically all the time is i prefer the guns and the movement

[unreal sonnet]

exctly

[nova lava]

actually yea thats so true lol

[glacial pasture]

I used to play light but once I figured out movement with medium I found that more optimal for tournaments

[unreal sonnet]

yk what would be cool if they added like a wallrun ability for the light

[glacial pasture]

I still love light just to have fun tho

[honest path]

Is the Finals coming for Switch

[unreal sonnet]

that only lasts like 5 to 10s

[stable igloo]

finals would probably explode a switch

[nova lava]

thats not a bad idea actually

[glacial pasture]

True

[unreal sonnet]

i think medium needs more destruction capability

like even the light has the breach charge

[candid valley]

i think medium needs to get deleted

[nova lava]

they probably have to delete the entire destruction mechanic just so switch can run it

[glacial pasture]

I mean like explosive mines exist

[unreal sonnet]

agreed

[stable igloo]

yea basically lol

[unreal sonnet]

yea but thats about it

[stable igloo]

and you leave medium and my little turret buddy alone

[unreal sonnet]

turret needs to get deleted

[golden plank]

holy shit

[stable igloo]

honestly I don't find the turret that bad, but I find it really funny seeing how scared others are of it

[glacial pasture]

I saw someone put a turret on top of a carriable and just carry it around 💀

[stable igloo]

you can put it on top of fire barrels, but it doesn't active till its on the ground properly

[unreal sonnet]

do you think theres any more types of barrells they could add in the future?

[glacial pasture]

Good question tbh

Maybe something to slow players down

[unreal sonnet]

oooo

[stable igloo]

sticky barrel would be nice actually

[unreal sonnet]

i think one that stops something from getting destroyed woulod be cool

[stable igloo]

could make it flammable like goo.

[nova lava]

the current ones off the top of my head are explosive, flammable, toxic and goo. yea sticky barrel could be ideal

[glacial pasture]

Fire after countering like everything

[stable igloo]

and fire, explosive = flying propane tank thingies

[unreal sonnet]

side note why tf are there just random tanks of like propane littering the streets

[nova lava]

yea thats what i meant by the explosive, i forgot what they were called

[stable igloo]

just couldn't tell if you meant fire barrel or red explosive

[nova lava]

i guess it's game show based so it's probably set up by "the hosts" before the contestants play

[restive frost]

Vss next medium weapon?

[unreal sonnet]

yeah fair tho

[nova lava]

yea no that's fine

[unreal sonnet]

i think an aug would be cool

[nova lava]

yea some sorta burst rifle could be good coz i know a lot of people that prefer burst over semi-auto

[stable igloo]

yea, only "burst" we have right now is heavy shotgun. but kinda dif

[plucky gust]

WHY DID THEY SHADOW NERF SMOKES

[bright widget]

what is the best class for killing

[plucky gust]

u couldn't see fkin shit when u are in a smoke in the betas now its just a weather effect

[bold cradle]

What about a mini gun for heavy

Or a dmr for light

[compact widget]

u kinda right i didnt play beta but the smokes are really bad

[upbeat laurel]

Have that

[upbeat laurel]

M60 isn’t all that far off, but Lewis is better

[nova lava]

yea i thought that as well, it just feels right

[bold cradle]

Bro a gatlin gun would be so dope or a pipe bomb for eqp

Or something like a Barrett 50 for light

Simi auto sniper that packs a punch but had low bullet volocity

[nova lava]

bruh i swear a barret 50 would be bigger than the light lol

[bold cradle]

Im knowing but keep in mind it's a video game

[nova lava]

anything could happen tbf

[bold cradle]

A Barrett 50 would be grate because you could actually damage structures

[late bone]

railgun when?

[nova lava]

i'm not saying it's a bad idea i just find it funny to imagine a gun of that calibre being given to a light

[bold cradle]

Or an electricity grenade to disorients and shock opponents

[nova lava]

true

[bold cradle]

It could be for medium

I could actually see that

Something that would be cool to see would be a mg42 for heavy

Or a tommy gun with a drum for light

[unreal sonnet]

i think you should be able to upgrade your weapons like mid game with coins

like add scopes and stuff

[bold cradle]

That would be so fuckin cool

Or damaged and armor buffs

Many damage resistance to like fire and gas

[unreal sonnet]

like if you die with coins you could use x amount of coins where x is the coins you had to purchase attachments

[bold cradle]

Choose one system

[unreal sonnet]

or like buy armour yeah

[bold cradle]

Like you get coins as you get kills individually and then you have your teem koins for obj

[unreal sonnet]

kinda like the val or cs menu ut for attachments and armour and stuff

[bold cradle]

I agreee

[unreal sonnet]

yeah like a personal supply of coins

[bold cradle]

I would like to be able to put bigger magisens or rapid fire or grip for stability

But a choose one system

Like the old call of duty mw1

[unreal sonnet]

yeah but make different stuff differnt prices so you can only get it late game

[bold cradle]

Not comparing games this is an amazing game by itself

[unreal sonnet]

it rlly is

i hope it doesnt flop like hyperscape and that

[bold cradle]

I think more cosmetics should be purchasable by earnable credits

[glacial pasture]

They’ll add more in the future likely

[unreal sonnet]

yeah more free cosmetics in the battlepass

[bold cradle]

Not the battle pass

[unreal sonnet]

i think just making it easier to get coins would fix it

[late bone]

??? why ??? IMO enough free cosmetics are given via leveling your acct + battlepass

[visual jacinth]

Is it just me or is the gas grenades and mines a little op when defending a cashout

[glacial pasture]

I feel like the free cosmetics from the pass are better than what most games would give

[glacial pasture]

Just blow that all up beforehand and cancel the gas with fire

[visual jacinth]

do you get damaged by your own fire

[glacial pasture]

Yeah but the radius tends to be small and fire doesn’t deal a lot of damage in the first place

[bold cradle]

But I remember as a kid not being able to afford skins n shit because I had no income I had to rely on my parents and they were really poor I feel like if they add more stuff we could spend the coins we ern on other than equipment n guns it would give the average kid or player more a reson to play and grind it also might catch more people's eyes because every game you see now days is a cash grab why not leave all the bad ass cosmetics behind the pay system and add more common things for the ern system and maybe a cople of cool things that you just have to work hard for

[visual jacinth]

fire and gas can’t be in the same place?

[glacial pasture]

Fire overrides gas and goo, and smoke overrides fire

[visual jacinth]

That is good to know thank you

[glacial pasture]

Np

[visual jacinth]

does smoke override gas or just fire

[glacial pasture]

Just fire

[visual jacinth]

word

[bold cradle]

So nobody has an option on what I just said 😭

[glacial pasture]

Reminds me
I need to find an editing software that won’t get pissy when I upload a 2 hour and 47 minute mp3 of my discord call so I can make my video while playing this game

[unreal sonnet]

no i thinkyou should be able to buy skins with vrs

[bold cradle]

But then they wouldn't make any money on this free to play game

[glacial pasture]

You can put together a cool outfit pretty easily with free rewards imo
Most accessories cost like 100 creds aside from shop bundles no?

[bold cradle]

I fill like it should be mixed

[unreal sonnet]

nha theyre acc quite expensive

[bold cradle]

I agree but why rely just on a gold system people are going to get tired and want something more then the 50 items you can ern

[unreal sonnet]

thats what i meant like some skins with vrs and others with coins

[bold cradle]

See that's what I'ma talking about

Iev actually held a couple of conversations in game and what most people talk about is that and how they wish they could put a different attachment on there guns

[glacial pasture]

I agree there defo should be some more free unlockable cosmetics that are cool

[unreal sonnet]

even if they make the vrs skins worth a lot it gives you smthn to grind for

[bold cradle]

Like not a bunch of attachments that would make the casual game play into a sweaty worzone like game

[glacial pasture]

Attachments might ruin the game imo

[unreal sonnet]

they should do it like apex like how you can get skins with crafting materials or coins

[bold cradle]

Add attachments but keep it simple one attachment per gun

[glacial pasture]

I need more gambling for cool items 🗣️

[unreal sonnet]

yeah

[glacial pasture]

I think they should make this game like csgo so you can pay $250 to open a crate and maybe get a knife skin with a red dot on it

[unreal sonnet]

100 percent ingame economy and all

[glacial pasture]

But yeah some openable packs could be cool

Or twitch drops or events

[unreal sonnet]

yeah gives ppl something to gamble on

[unreal sonnet]

i think they already do that

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[nova lava]

imagine if the grapple on light could be used two maybe three times before the cooldown

[glacial pasture]

That’s just open beta stuff
Hopefully in the future maybe

[glacial pasture]

2 imo would be good, make it similar to like the titanfall grapple

[nova lava]

the amount of clippable plays people would make out of it

[unreal sonnet]

or one on each side like aot grapple things

[glacial pasture]

I feel like I haven’t seen enough people try trickshots in this game

Tbf the sniper doesn’t one shot but

[unreal sonnet]

a proper 1 shot 1 kill heavy sniper# would be cool

[nova lava]

i always grapple into fights trying to slide cancel my way through an enemy but then it turns out that enemy team is mostly heavys and i get destroyed instantly

[glacial pasture]

I feel like weapon drops on the map could be a cool concept, weapons you can’t equip normally but are strong if you pick them up

Could have a 50 cal sniper in that group

[unreal sonnet]

yeah like specified spawnpoints

and they spawn at random intervals

[vital quest]

Make the ak great again no one likes the nerf big SAD

[glacial pasture]

ak is perfectly fine?

[vital quest]

It isn’t they nerfed it from 10-12 body shots to 13-14

Go to the practice range u will see

[glacial pasture]

Boohoo it takes like an extra tenth of a second to kill

[strong kindle]

I would love it, but I can see that being a balancing nightmare. It would have to be incredibly slow firing for decent balance.
@glacial pasture I think the issue with weapon spawns on the map is that so much is destructible that the only spawn points you could place them on are way too easy/accessible for such a strong weapon. I would prefer if they were in much harder to reach/time consuming places but with destruction they'd have to make maybe specific platforms they could sit on that would spawn in during events maybe.

[glacial pasture]

Maybe time based platforms that spawn in at halftime

[vital quest]

That around 20% nerf to dmg

So not just a boohoo it matters in prolonged gun fights

[glacial pasture]

It’s not that hard to hit an extra shot or two on a full auto gun

[fading knoll]

im spamming space bar and my scroll wheel down which is my second jump bind and i cant respawn (help)

[vital quest]

20% dmg over time bro adds up

Also from the ranges that you should be engaging 50m it matters for a few bullets these few bullets on the Ak are right at the transition part of the recoil pattern so it not only makes it do less dmg but you need to change the way you spray

That being said I am still a beam but it didn’t need a nerf and if they were going to nerf it put it in the patch notes not a shadow nerf

If you put this in prospective too it makes the kill potential from 3 m classes to 2 with body shots

If you look at it that way too a 30% nerf

[dense jungle]

real quick, arent turrents really good at killing lights?

[glacial pasture]

Everything is good at killing lights

[nova lava]

couldn't be anymore true after the game i just had

the amount of sophisticated moves i have to do just to get the 4 kills i got was unreal

[glacial pasture]

Meanwhile heavy players just pressing trigger and winning

[nova lava]

at least not just now, we beat heavys to get my 8th win on the game

[jagged falcon]

thats why its fun...

[glacial pasture]

For the players maybe

[dawn seal]

Is the ak better then the fcar factually or am I just bad at the game

[kindred arrow]

fcar has 200 less damage per mag (520 instead of 720) in exchange for 30% more damage per shot (26 instead of 20) at the same rpm (600)

[glacial pasture]

They’re interchangeable really

[kindred arrow]

the recoil on fcar is weird and very uncomfortable though

[glacial pasture]

I feel like feathering the trigger on the fcar helps

Just went into training and mashing trigger (not too fast) basically eliminates the recoil but keeps a pretty fast firing speed

You don’t get the same results with the ak either

[bold cradle]

Y'all tryna squad up

[torn ocean]

sure i am new as hell though

[bold cradle]

What's you user#

[vapid inlet]

don't care about lights. heavy should 1 shot them with everything

[torn ocean]

DynamicVictor#6899

[torn ocean]

DynamicVictor#6899

[languid quartz]

Increase explosives damage

[dawn seal]

Hell no what are you talking about, what explosive needs a buff rn?

[languid quartz]

all of em. Frag grenades, pyro, glitch, both mines

[nova lava]

pyro does enough as it is

[quiet drift]

does the dome shield have a hp limit?

[silk viper]

Ah, lets make heavy even more OP

[ancient panther]

Nerf the AK

[mortal halo]

FIRING Semi Automatic to Automatic Conversion Script for THE FINALS No BAN / It's Not a Hack
Link : https://youtu.be/ZjA0Rq-eV5s

[smoky jay]

Maybe give the sledgehammer a lunge? The biggest problem with a melee weapon on heavy is there’s no way to close the gap since you don’t have fast movement. Unless the philosophy with the sledge is to tear down the walls/ceilings between your enemies and literally crash on them

[thorn flame]

is tracking dart worth it?

i used it in the previous 3 betas and it was alr

[terse storm]

no

[dawn seal]

Not really in my opinion unless you get someone who's running with the box, if you want tracking I would grab the sonar

Or take take recon spec if you play med, but personally even that isn't worth it over heal or turret

[spiral sluice]

Can someone plz explain how to shoot the zipline as M without it sticking horizontally? It's often not possible or the roof is out of range above 4 stories

[sick garnet]

Range pretty much, it was a bit longer in the open beta. Try jumping before you get kicked off the zipline

[spiral sluice]

yeah but you cant always guarantee making it into a window. I've always just done it to the roof edge (meaning itll be sideways) but above a balcony. Idk I just seem to be the last to get to the action and people are dead and it sucks. Might just stick with bounce pad

[sick garnet]

Yeah i have been taking bounce pad more on every map except Vegas i feel like zipline works better there since the map is way more flat when compared to the other maps

[spiral sluice]

some of the infinite abyss crossings is where its so useful tho cuz bounce doesn't take you laterally that far. I've seen people put them on slanted roofs to get an angle

[sick garnet]

You can use slide or movement abilities (light dash, heavy charge.etc) in to boost pads to get more of a forward momentum as well

[blissful geyser]

soooooo

better if you can aim

[visual jacinth]

what’s the fastest way to get the VRs for buying gear

[bold jewel]

i just play alot

the better you do in games the more you get

[visual jacinth]

Can I buy them with multibucks

[bold jewel]

no

[visual jacinth]

Darn

[vital void]

cheaters! do something!

[grizzled flower]

It's pretty sad that nearly everyone that plays this game is using an AK or a Pistol.

[visual jacinth]

is the R357 any good?

[silent wolf]

It feels good to use if your aim is decent

The FCAR is probably more consistent

[bleak dirge]

If you hit every shot, and preferably in the head, then it's good

[kindred arrow]

still worse in theory because an MMH comp will eat your whole mag even with 100% headshot rate

[ivory vine]

can you cook frag grenades?

[novel badger]

Nah

Would be dope if we could get some better FCAR skins. It’s the best AR but the AK has all the good skins

[visual jacinth]

real

[fickle stump]

Nope, sadly. But you can cook explo barrels lol

If you pick up a red barrel, throw it and pick it up instantly again, then you'll have 2-3 seconds before it explodes! Great for breaking walls and taking opponents by suprise if you don't have explosives in your kit 🙂

[ivory dust]

Imagine a Bow

[tardy breach]

are the throwing knives actually good?

[fickle stump]

No! the worst weapon in the game by a mile!

Consider the XP-54 or the V95 (pistol) instead if you're playing light

[glacial shell]

sliding doesn't actually increase any movement speed

you actually end up traversing slower if you slide

you go faster if you jump into a slide and then jump out

dont let the noobs teach you wrong

[visual jacinth]

what do we think of the light shotgun? It does a lot of damage but only 2 shots😬

[trail hamlet]

1900 need faster trigger while 1216 should be slower!

[spice thunder]

rpg needs a nerf

[fickle stump]

Not really, maybe slower pull out but not more than that if any at all

[kindred arrow]

very stupid with cloak, makes melee weapons redundant

[hollow musk]

Its not the worst…its really good if you have actually nice precision

[fickle stump]

It so ass lol

[restive plover]

weapons gadgets

[earnest cypress]

The medium build turret? Does anyone think it’s balanced and why

[spice thunder]

op

[fickle stump]

Overrated tbh, it can be devastating for lights running pistol without the glitch grenade, but again, one glitch grenade and its over.
stick to the healing beam

[rotund steppe]

guys has anyone tested how the cloak works? in the description it says if you're not moving you are completely invisible, however does this apply if you're reloading, and standing still? or even looking around while standing still? or does it mean no input whatsoever?

[earnest cypress]

It has enough health to be a whole other person and it does decent damage.

[earnest cypress]

No player movement and you are invisible from what I see. Reloading or not you will be a menace.

[fickle stump]

I don't believe reloading and such makes you less invisivle

[rotund steppe]

so its based off of walking and running etc, not camera movement or reloading?

[earnest cypress]

Yeah.

[rotund steppe]

thanks for clearing that up, in that case the devs should reword that to say you're completely invisible if you stand in place.

[fickle stump]

Still wouldnt change it for the healing beam

[earnest cypress]

I agree but a team of two mediums and a heavy can heal and have a whole ass other player

Then you have people putting them on plants so they can pick them up and bring them to the next objective.

They can completely avoid cooldown

[fickle stump]

Meh, one glitch nade and they're out or just a mag of any rifle

[left sail]

i don’t know what to do with myself anymore but i’m gonna be so happy to be a good friend

[restive plover]

Range pretty much, it was a bit longer in the open beta. Try jumping before you get kicked off the zipline

[left sail]

i’m just saying if you’re a good 😊 guy i can be the good 😊 person 🧍‍♀️ and

[exotic hawk]

a lot of people are complaining about the heavy's shotgun, do you think it would be a good nerf if they lowered the shotguns "bursts" to 3 instead of 4? because that would still reward good aim while also making it less spray and pray

[restive plover]

Nope, sadly. But you can cook explo barrels lol
If you pick up a red barrel, throw it and pick it up instantly again, then you'll have 2-3 seconds before it explodes! Great for breaking walls and taking opponents by suprise if you don't have explosives in your kit 🙂

[inland ermine]

How does eeveryone feel about the light shotgun right now?

[void wing]

I hate the light shotty, shows up from the shadow and deals a ton of damage in no time

[inland ermine]

can basically 1 shot heavy which makes me concern XD

[warm lion]

i mean it's basically just
better dagger

[inland ermine]

Dagger does 60 damage, 1 shot from the shotty does over 200?

[warm lion]

dagger can also one shot

[inland ermine]

Yeah but the line for error there is much higher

[warm lion]

exactly why i said it's just better dagger

[inland ermine]

Needs to be nerfed regardless.

[hot shadow]

Pistol x stun gun
combo Forever 🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️‼️‼️‼️

[civic trellis]

wrong, not one shot to heavy

[warm lion]

close enough
just quick melee them

[inland ermine]

Dagger is fine. its a melee anyways. The issue is the shotgun can basically garuentee kill a heavy.

[warm lion]

exactly why i say it's better dagger

[glad stream]

riot shield

THE loadout forever 🗣️ 🗣️🗣️🗣️‼️ ‼️ ‼️

[fathom iron]

One shots any class to the back with special attack

[warm lion]

except heavy

[fathom iron]

Ooook, well it’ll make them one shot 320 damage is a bunch

So there’s a high chance you’ll kill unless you suck of course

[molten shoal]

Heavy get a big crossbow

[warm lion]

heavy rail gun

[molten shoal]

Railroad spike

Sticky grenade

[restive plover]

bro think ahk is ud on eac xD

[left sail]

mememea

i rej e e

[bold shore]

Knifes are underpowered as hell smh, they should at least buff the damage that shiz is weak as hell.

I mean backstabbing is a plus I guess

[stable igloo]

You mean the dagger? Cause throwing knives are fine

[left sail]

they should add a 50 cal

[proud parcel]

It is. The akm is far more consistent and reliable due to the 80% larger magazine for only a minor dps difference.

[heavy snow]

Ikr theres 0 reason to use the fcar

U can get 2 kills in one spray with the ak not with the fcar

Unless you are flanking and fight people one on one but in higher ranks that just wont happen

[sand geyser]

The only reason to use fcar is for those sweet sights

[heavy snow]

Crosshairx:

[warm lion]

against ToS

[heavy snow]

Fr?

[daring field]

Hey guys want to try the heavys grenade revolving nade launcher whats it like?

[warm lion]

yeah

[heavy snow]

Damn

[warm lion]

annoying to use for killing people

[heavy snow]

Gonna have to put ducktape on my monitor ig

[daring field]

Ive seen people use it for defense mostly stand a distance from vault and just spam nades

[warm lion]

yeah cause the 2 impact requirement for blowing up is a pain

[civic trellis]

its one shot to light and medium not heavy 🤦‍♂️

[soft hamlet]

C4 on throwables is hilarious cheese

[jaunty hornet]

Dude c4s should blow up sooner

[glacial pasture]

:(

Guess I’ll throw my better recoil, faster ttk, and holo sight out the door

[sudden onyx]

my monitor has a built in crosshair feature they cant ban certain monitors or the feature

[versed inlet]

isnt the fcar better than akm tho?

[compact linden]

I might add that the small dps difference is actually a lot more noticable due to the fewer bullets needed for a kill with fcar. starting with headshots required for a light dropping from 5 to 4

#medium-build-main message

good reload timing is key

[versed inlet]

that just happened to me lol

[silent bear]

When will anti cheating be added? I really like this game and I don't want it to be destroyed by hackers

[nimble geyser]

im not the only one that thinks its weird that the breaching charge and c4 have an arming time, but mines are active the instant u throw them, am i

i seen so many mediums just throw mines when they get jumped, even initiating fights with them, and it works really well, feels like a pocket rpg almost

[clear jolt]

i feel like the medium needs the breaching charge aswell its driving me crazy not having one on every class

[solemn adder]

Is there a glitch in the game? Someone against me killed me from a distance of 400 meters with a gun. I hit her with a Kalashkov and he doesn't die?

[stable igloo]

Could be ping, if the person is that far its not impossible they're hacking unless it's a sniper. Though hackers are pretty obvious

[fossil bronze]

Is there weapon bloom incorporated into the guns in this game? Or is it just hit reg? Something feels off when using the revolver especially

[ashen bear]

they have to do something for THE FOAM Granade . players building fortnight of foam around the cashout 😓

[arctic lagoon]

🤯

[radiant python]

pyro it

[radiant python]

i think in this game the buller shoots from the barrel

[ripe zodiac]

Any counters for tanks running grenade launcher and rpg?

[thorn tree]

Any kind of movement (most notably among the x-axis)

[compact linden]

Aka walking lol

[solemn adder]

I want an explanation on YouTube? How to open the door without pressure? Or open the scene with the right mouse without pressing

[ripe zodiac]

👍

Just a sweaty toxic game with a sweaty toxic discord 🤢🤢🤢🤢🤢

[remote matrix]

Weapons lvl it’s only skins?

Or more power/etc?

[agile harbor]

skins

[somber talon]

boomer

[queen zenith]

says the one that has been playing it for the past 5 hours

[ruby pasture]

Nahhw who killed my Dude 30times in a row?!

[obsidian wave]

Just sounds like a skill issue. First dude gave you a legitimate answer and you wanna respond like that 😂

[median socket]

gas granade my beloved

[polar moss]

f

[sleek bramble]

I unlocked lewis gun. I hope it is upgrade or sidegrade

[radiant python]

upgrade trust

[signal verge]

For nade launcher use light to juke their aim and be unpredictable so they can’t lead their shots and for RPG use glitch grenade

But if they catch you off guard you’re gone brother lol

[signal verge]

Ok then leave

[radiant python]

do aps turrets destroy rpgs?

[signal verge]

No ideer actually

[radiant python]

?

[proud parcel]

Yes. They won't destroy throwable items like barrels, but everything else will be destroyed

[silent bear]

Brothers, is anti-cheating about to restart?

[signal hamlet]

been a strat since beta

[untold loom]

scar needs more ammo

[livid knoll]

Sniper shouldn’t be a 3 to 4 bullet non head shot kill. Or at least put it on medium for more health

[pale otter]

WHERE THE HELL is the TURRET standard issue skin?

[molten shoal]

TF2 turret skin

[loud verge]

DM ME IF U WANT TO SEE MY BANANA DAGGER

[boreal coral]

is there a table for TTK comparison?

[gaunt saffron]

Someone made one for a video. Try to search ttk on YouTube. The finals wiki has some DPS numbers, you could figure out some things if you needed from there.

[heady musk]

Hate land mines that is all I got to say

[last fulcrum]

Gas hood

[drowsy shale]

does smoke grenade clear gas or is it just for fire

[last fulcrum]

Fire

[hardy verge]

SMOKE

[signal verge]

Does rocket lauchers rocket launchers???

[sick garnet]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1NHg1VZ3rILNSv6Z-PxQ9krM0VNNtIMh7HX4G4SDFufk/edit#gid=1108733071

[bright bloom]

remove mines

[boreal laurel]

No

Okay, remove gas mines. That’s the only one that really gets me.

[bright bloom]

??

[prisma holly]

Is there actually a difference between AKM and Scar?

[bright bloom]

Play 1 ranked game and u will get hit by 12 explosive mines at least

which btw one shot lights

[ashen heart]

Revvy for the win

[hallow leaf]

when is the sh1900 getting nerfed

[remote crypt]

mainly just ammo and recoil. but otherwise their damage profiles are very similar

[last fulcrum]

gadget

[restive plover]

Such a fun idea!
Edit by @loud verge
THE ENEMY SKIN THOUGH! HAHAHA

[last fulcrum]

ah

[runic turret]

Nah bruh

[dusky sun]

firemage confirmed?

[ripe ermine]

Weapon Idea (riffin on throwing knives for Light): Bow and Arrow for Medium, and Ballista for Heavy

[timid sierra]

nerf shotguns

[zenith knot]

the auto shotgun for heavy is super OP

[steel loom]

I think lights shotgun is pretty balanced, medium could honestly be buffed their reload is complete ass, and heavy’s definitely should be nerfed

[loud verge]

Real

[timid sierra]

i agree, i think light is fine, its insane but light has no health so it works out, heavys shouldnt even have a shotgun imo

[steel loom]

I think having 12 or even 8 ammo would have a good nerf, but the fact that mediums shotgun damage per shot and the heavy’s shotgun damage per shot is less than 25 health difference is insane to me

Its balance between the shotguns that irks me the most

[terse storm]

no rocket launchers launch rockets

[brave walrus]

Glitch nade y/n?

[last fulcrum]

Y

[patent totem]

Y ofc, heavies sit behind their shields after a couple sniper shots thinking they're safe. glitch nade + shoot exactly as it comes down

[last fulcrum]

Yes yes

[bright token]

Can we please get a Gasmask😢

[warm lion]

just throw fire at it

[ember girder]

WTF IS AN ARENA CARRIABLE THE CANISTERS I THROW DONT COUNT FOR DMG

[glacial dust]

Only the initial hit counts, not the after effect. Throwing pots and plants in their faces usually works better, about 50 damage for a hit

[stable igloo]

If you get good at it you can do 150 damage with a direct hit from a red canister, not that easy though

[solemn charm]

I am so tired of mine spam in my games, plz nerf soon it's so borin

[royal wadi]

Man, the Fcar really needs some kind of nerf. Being able to do 156 dmg in 3-4 shots with pinpoint accuracy is absurd.

[warm lion]

just grenade them
or use cans

[stable igloo]

This is assuming people land headshots and is literally the trade off between akm and fcar. Fcar does more damage per bullet and has the same accuracy, but far less ammo than akm. So less room for error.

[royal wadi]

Doesn't excuse the amount of dmg it outputs for its accuracy.

It is by far the best gun the Medium has, bar none.

[red spruce]

The shotgun ain’t shit for heavies. Just nerf the cans so they can’t stick c4 or mines

[stable igloo]

The funny part is most people would say akm is the best

[royal wadi]

Tell that to the ranked players, where you will see the Fcar 85% of the time if they are a medium

[red spruce]

It’s personal preference, if they can aim headshots, sure fcar would be better. If they can’t, they would prefer the akm

[livid knoll]

Buff snipers

[solemn charm]

even if you blow up gas mines they leave the gas, glitch won't remove things permanently, and explosive mines literally go off before they hit the ground making them an offensive tool as well

[royal wadi]

Im not saying "Nerf everything that is good!" im saying maybe we should think about some changes to have more veriaty. Also Light needs a buff really bad.

[stable igloo]

Exactly, that's the issue here. Fcar is the same as any other accuracy-focused weapon. They're strong if you can aim, shit if you can't

[solemn charm]

they are the strongest gadget in a KOTH style objective game

[stable igloo]

Use fire for gas. A lot of people just don't run it and it screws the entire team

[solemn charm]

that's what I'm saying, you get 8 total mines on med or heavy that detonate before they even hit the ground and they ohk lights its crazy

[red spruce]

Where the hell did you get 8 from?

[solemn charm]

currently you can put 4 down in 1 life, if you die and respawn you get another 4 if the previous ones are still up. You can find a vid online showing it

[red spruce]

They’re definitely need to nerf that

[stable igloo]

You can have a max of 2 out at a time. Previously placed ones despawn. I'd imagine that's per, so ignoring glitch grenade. It would be 4. 2 explosive, 2 gas

[royal wadi]

Ima be that guy here, but the Fcar is compairable to the Wingman in apex legends (Heavy revolver that hits like a bowing 357) and the Wingman was nerfed HARD because it can just massively out perform on compitant aim compaired to every other gun.

The argument of "It takes skill to dump that much dmg" doesnt really hold any wait past casual "Just here to play the game for fun" type players.

[stable igloo]

I think at least with your concerns, the damage needs reduced by exactly 1 point. 2 in headshot.

[royal wadi]

Thats what im saying. I aint saying make it useless, im saying "Its numbers are a little too high".

[stable igloo]

Very slightly though. But I still feel it's a fair tradeoff but I do see how it could be an issue at high level play

[drowsy walrus]

dude i think the everything needs a nerf because its OP 😠 😠 😠

[tropic pecan]

what are the best gadgets

[grizzled urchin]

Fix the connection problems to the server

[spiral stump]

Anywhere door and big light

[vapid inlet]

anybody having issues with gas barrels going fff while holding them ?

all the other barrels are fine but the gas just randomly pop

[orchid lance]

It boggles my mind why anyone would create a "weapon meta" in their game. The beta had the gunplay down to a tee, every weapon felt perfect and there was no amazing weapon, nor any weapon that felt overpowered. Now, 90% of the playerbase are light players, with camo and submachine guns, because that is The Meta. Every other weapon and class has been nerfed into the ground. So, its just a boring call of duty clone now.

[silent wolf]

Does a bot write these comments?

[paper island]

at the highest level of play, the makeup of teams are not 90% lights, this is just a total lie

[restive plover]

I wish I saw more lights. Most of the tourneys I've seen have just been MMH or MHH.

[stable igloo]

isn't that just a byproduct of metas favoring medium and heavy?

[silent wolf]

people now get flammed for picking lights, it's bad

[vast matrix]

Well yeah mmh is the most op squad to go against

[restive plover]

I just flame myself for picking Light because I go 2-10 because I like the throwing knives

[stable igloo]

this sums up me on light lol

[silent wolf]

Can't wait to unlock those playing cards in the battle pass and ruin my KD

[floral cipher]

hi guys, are there more skins which has different animations? i have the model1887 skin and it’s sick, but i’m looking for more

[acoustic pollen]

LF TEAM rank silver

[stable igloo]

I believe the dagger has a tiny dagger skin that also has special animations?

[surreal lagoon]

how people have sledge hammer diamond skin?

[celest rover]

Do yall know if they are gunna nerf shot guns

[wild dew]

BAN SHOTGUNS

NERF SHOTGUNS

[stable igloo]

open beta diamond rank reward

[silent wolf]

wasn't that an AK?

[last fulcrum]

ah

[surreal lagoon]

i see thx @stable igloo

the only skin i can get diamong is pistol on light when reach diamond?

[tame hound]

why does the medium's grenade launcher so bad

[last cloud]

i main medium w/ grenade launcher and i dont think it's that bad
it plays very different from other weapons though
with only four shots you have to make them count and usually cant be the first to dive in anywhere

[surreal lagoon]

the only skin i can get diamong is pistol on light when reach diamond?

[stable igloo]

grenade launcher on medium is good, but its drawbacks make it difficult to use in a lot of situations. does 100 damage on direct hits, and I believe 40-80 on proximity? so even against heavies it does some solid damage. fast reload too per bullet if you miss more than you should.

just.. if you're ever in an enclosed area for a cashout and you don't have a distant vantage point (the room is still enclosed and not blown the fuck up) then it can be very dangerous to defend it yourself like mediums would normally do

[last fulcrum]

a

[tall raft]

I don't care if the riot shield can only do 5 damage per attack please just buff the hitbox to actually block bullets

[tall raft]

The medium GL is underrated, and I think about it as 4+1 shots because you can usually load a shell somewhere during a fight. If you stay behind cover between shots and make use of long range you can deal a lot of damage without taking much yourself. The GL is very good at punishing anyone who tries to chase you around corners

The GL has a lot of utility for destroying mines, ziplines, barrels

[kindred arrow]

GL as a utility weapon has a lot of the problems that the sledgehammer does

Both aren't useless but you're trading an actual gun for the ability to sometimes take care of problems more effectively

and god help you against heavies if you're using the GL

[wild wyvern]

If anyone is looking for a Discord server with Competitive people to play , send me a private message
1150 Multibucks giveaway 1 click to join

[kindred arrow]

man the scambots just keep coming

[last cloud]

that, plus it goes absolutely crazy with the recon since you can fire right as someone is turning a corner and deal damage before they even see you

[wild wyvern]

If anyone is looking for a Discord server with Competitive people to play , send me a private message
1150 Multibucks giveaway 1 click to join

[bright kiln]

lf1m plat+ ranked dm me

[last fulcrum]

1

[fair delta]

how do you guys find akm vs fcar for medium?

[tiny basalt]

why does the sniper feel like I'm using a mouse to simulate joystick input? Is this a design thing or is it bad settings?

[fair delta]

i find the mag capacity of the fcar is a little low if it was like 5 bullets more i wouldnt have any complaints

[tiny basalt]

nevermind, answered my own question. It's a (bad) design thing. ADS animation turns the sensitivity down to practically 1% before returning to normal once full ADS is established

[gusty yoke]

On my weapons, why do my crosshairs look different than my friend's crosshairs who are running the same loadout?

both have default settings.

[hallow veldt]

Did both of you also have the same color, radius, and border thickness too?

It may be a dumb question but I thought it might be worth asking

[jagged falcon]

ight

EMBARK needs to give us the ability to make custom team colors, names, icons (within some limits I.E some type of chat filter like every other game that does this), just to make it feel more like 4 teams going against each other instead of random fill squads in whatever BR you are into rn, allows you to invite your friends, must have a 3 man squad to run as custom team as to not cause issues for 3 different players being in 3 different teams and the game not being able to choose which one to run, also allow us to get drip that is for our custom team (our color scheme, logo, stuff like that) with VP to give the people who have everything something to spend it on.

[kindred arrow]

turn off focal sens in settings

[naive oyster]

will thermal vision be buffed or will it stay as it is?

realistically it should be able to see cloaked players and through smoke (it can but it doesn't highlight players)

[tiny basalt]

it's off. It's just the mouse zoom sensitivity multipler. I don't have this issue in Counter Strike. With the snipers there I get a true 1:1 ADS to hip fire but here the sensitivity scaling throws me way off

[urban gazelle]

I wish medium had something like the LH1. So few weapons for em zzz

[lunar pawn]

remove double barrel on light istg

[strange mortar]

how does the light sensor work? does it pulse like the sonar grenade or do people have to step on it? the description says it works through walls so im just confused

[chilly bay]

Is recon sense any good/fun?

[prime apex]

why u post this in all chats

[narrow patrol]

bored

[last fulcrum]

WAS

[narrow patrol]

[ruby ivy]

Yes very good if you use it right

Underrated for sure

[waxen pasture]

does anyone know how to charge with the sword using a controller?

[silent wolf]

I'd assume it's the same button as ads?

[waxen pasture]

sweet! thank you, ill give it a shot

[light summit]

is anyone having a problem with the aim in sensitivity too?

[last fulcrum]

AH

[ember cape]

glitch grenade detonation timing is way too long and inefficient, the animation just to deploy nades/utilities is time consuming for fast movement game.

[runic turret]

how people have sledge hammer diamond skin?

[true spear]

closed beta 2 diamond skin iirc

[noble lichen]

^

You had to play ranked and reach diamond (iirc)
Kinda sad I didn’t play ranked as much. My friends don’t play competitively

[smoky marten]

mid

[warped salmon]

have the devs mentioned anything about fixing this issue, as you are right. They need to at least allow it to impact shields instantaneously.

[deft thunder]

add global chat so i can flame my dgenerate enemies

[clear jolt]

Can we get breaching charge for medium

[sleek bramble]

What gadgets are fun builds ?

I mean I want to have fun but I end up wanting win and get frustration.

I love Bf4. I also like apex but I end up playing onlıne game too seriously sometimes. I have built my medium as medic & double movement and and heavy class as protect & destruction. I havent built my L class.

Or I do bad by writing this. Sory.

[arctic lagoon]

🤯

[ivory osprey]

cloak and shotgun maybe even cloak nate but not in high ranked u get clapped if u arent the goat

[untold loom]

scar>

[compact linden]

explosive mines always. just shoot a light build once so he chases you, place a mine down behind a corner while running away, profit

[untold loom]

a

[empty scroll]

Make heavy able to pick up lights and throw them. It would look so funny 😭

[north valve]

Sometimes i throw barrel with c4 but its just drop close to me like i pressed alt fire. someone else noticed it?

[restive plover]

If an enemy is below 5% health you should be able to execute them if you melee/new keybind from behind, and the default heavy execution is a grab and slam WWE style

Honest to god executions would make this game even cooler/hype than it already is

[timber swan]

pen grenade should defuse all mines

[empty scroll]

So real

[north valve]

pen?

[empty rain]

I think the light build weapons throwing knives and LH1 needs buffed in either range or damage, they feel not as good to me as other light build weapons

[spark pivot]

make it so you have to have 1 of each class, nerf light shotgun, nerf heavy shotgun enough said

also remove the invulnerability from defibs

[inland trout]

That would be very bad, since you have to load the arena around you and you dont even see enemies yet

[unkempt spire]

please allow us to remove reflex sights kthx

[verbal vale]

Nerf or get rid of turrets im tired of seeing double turret/triple turret teams

[inland trout]

Use glitch grenades, they dissapear instantly xd

[verbal vale]

Not even they only disable for a short period of time

[inland trout]

They changed it? Used to just remove them afaik

[verbal vale]

It wouldn’t be a problem if every team didnt run it but jesus ive had multiple games today with multiple double or triple turret teams

[inland trout]

Tbh its only good for defending, and even then I dont really have trouble with them, It means they arent healing so just outlast them

[short tusk]

can we get some stem for the light? that would be awesome

[warm lion]

just bring smoke

[ripe ermine]

I'd rather deal with double turrets than double healers

[quasi chasm]

I'm kinda wanting a gas mask passive gadget for light and or medium but it could be OP

[warm lion]

just bring fire

[clear jolt]

it could work like the heat vision, just haveing it on a timer and it reduces your fow with an overlay

[quasi chasm]

Yes but I have to stop and leave myself open to getting shot plus I could take the cash in the gas then

[clear jolt]

but we need a breaching charge for medium

[quasi chasm]

I like that idea I didn't think of the for con but that would be amazing to

[warm lion]

you do know you can arc your grenades
so you can throw them in cover
and you don't have to throw them smack dab in the middle of the gas

[molten shoal]

Ye

[quasi chasm]

I'd still get shot knowing my luck idk what it is but it feels like I get mega targeted in games

[warm lion]

get creative with your position ig

[quasi chasm]

fair but let's keep it honest that flamethrow hits lol

[warm lion]

it's always been a skill check against newbies and it got quadruple nerfed on release
no it doesn't

[quasi chasm]

It still shreds in my opinion especially when I'm getting shot by the heavys other teammates to but I have a question that I'm curious about did the scar get a buff since the beta?

[dusky obsidian]

🤨

[warm lion]

only that it's easier to control

[quasi chasm]

Oh it felt like it hits harder but I guess control can do that

[warm lion]

you can always just run it semi auto and have better control

@spice oxide

[bleak mesa]

is anybody have TFLA0002??

[mellow axle]

Should be able to switch weapons

[warm lion]

i miss night vision

[lost bough]

does invis have any cooldown whatsoever?

[ripe ermine]

yes but with the vanish nade combo you can extend your overall invis time by quite a bit

[terse storm]

Night vision literally made me play better idk why. I put it on my loadout as a meme one time and I popped off😭

[warm eagle]

stun gun makes enemy get more damage? or only stun?

[weary rock]

removes movement ads and abiliites

[warm eagle]

ty

[runic turret]

Yeah

[lost bough]

as if I'd ever want too

I don't even want to use invis, by far the worst implementation of invis I've ever seen in a game

feels like I'm playing the hidden

[ripe ermine]

you don't have to... I'm just answering your question lol

[lost bough]

fair enough, I just have such a disdain for invis that even people insinuating its use gets me on the defensive

[surreal breach]

Can we please get a riot shield hitbox buff
People keep shooting my toes while I'm stuck at bad range

[vapid inlet]

PLEASE REMOVE THE STUN GUN IT SHOULDNT EXIST

[strange coral]

Use the 1887, it counters stunning because it out dps all of lights guns except db

[strong kindle]

[vapid inlet]

NO I AM HAMMER! SMASH AND WALLOP.

it's so fuckin annoying in bank it

[warm lion]

try jumping while looking to the right

[surreal breach]

ooh
like without raising the shield?

[warm lion]

i mean you could also raise the shield and not look right but yeah

[surreal breach]

alr
it's annoying that it doesn't fully cover the hitbox from any angle, but I guess I can see the balancing concerns

[warm lion]

i'll take the minor annoyance for the badass feeling of blocking an RPG

or just surviving against heavy really

[strong kindle]

[ripe ermine]

Specialization Idea: Drone for Medium 👀. would work the same way as it does after a wipe, but with the advantage of not having to die lol

[junior shadow]

throwing it at an angle + waiting a tiny tiny bit amount of time makes suicide much less frequent when doing this

[stable igloo]

So a controllable camera? I think the idea is interesting, but wouldn't work. The game is pretty much a never ending shoot-out. Anything that could do, recon would do anyway

[warm lion]

bro is importing that guy from apex

[ripe ermine]

there is a proximity limit to recon that this would solve, and having to be still to use it would balance it (imo)

[ripe ermine]

Never played apex but know the guy exists lol I just thought its there, so why not

[stable igloo]

It's the opposite, it would be weaker rather than overpowered. Recon has a range limit, but it still has some decent distance to it

Could be wrong, but in most situations I feel if I stay still too long I'm just dead lol

[ripe ermine]

haha I mean it's a fair concern, honestly I die the least when I play slower in general

[stable igloo]

Fair though. You'd have to find a comfy corner to hide out in. While we're at it, let us stick c4 on it

[heady crow]

Take gas out please

[tight dove]

Give heavy a full auto barrett for the memes

[austere garnet]

DID YOU KNOW: Gas can easily be dispelled by throwing pyro nades at the gas. 💁‍♂️

[heady crow]

Then you got fire all over. Probably worse lol

[steel loom]

Then use smoke, or throw pyro at an outside section of the gas, its a pretty generous hitbox

[austere garnet]

Pyro nade usually dissipates quickly and doesn't have as big of an AOE as the gas does.

[restive plover]

Please nerf the torrets

They are too much op

[polar coral]

Does anyone else wish the c4 were a lot quicker to explode had so many deaths due to it

[velvet needle]

best gadgets for light?

[dreamy nimbus]

stun gun, glitch grenade, pyro grenade

[velvet needle]

ALR

thx

[cedar bough]

ya and the mines shouldnt instantly arm

they should take a sec cuz ill be invis and a heavy jus spammin me with them and they insta explode and i cant close the gap

[polar coral]

Yep I agree

[slow kite]

I lvl it by using it

[steel loom]

I still think that an entire weapon class (nade launchers) getting removed by one gadget (trophy system) makes me sad :(
I know its only a small section but when someone steals a cashout and i cant do anything it’s frustrating

I could swap but what other weapon literally cannot be used because of a gadget someone picked

[agile badger]

turret

[steel loom]

?

[ripe ermine]

Thats the point to counter you... cloak is annoying to deal with, and that is one of the big brain counters. Just how he anticipated you'd follow them right behind, you should anticipate that they'll do it to begin with and take an unexpected route

[cedar bough]

theres no other route its a hallway xD

[ripe ermine]

Then they're vulnerable to nades, especially glitch nades. Or stun them before they try to put the mine down

[last fulcrum]

ah

[restive plover]

Best ability and weapon for light?

[midnight badge]

i hate rocket launcher one shot light

[royal wadi]

the Heavy Shotgun is waaaay too strong

[kindred arrow]

cloak with shotgun or mp5

[restive plover]

And for grenade this no?

[modern dove]

https://tenor.com/view/mickey-mouse-mickey-mouse-clubhouse-mickey-mouse-clubhouse-sad-mickey-mouse-clubhouse-mickey-sad-mickey-mouse-club-house-mickey-sad-walking-gif-13206007519278579488

[maiden adder]

Is this a place to put my weapon and gadget ideas for the game?

[slender willow]

л

[sly lodge]

Add weapon accessories like sights, stock, grip, etc.

[ripe ermine]

I have no problem with RPG killing light in one shot, but I do have a problem that the cooldown is fast enough for it to be ready after respawn. RPG should be more expensive to use

[slate cedar]

any gadgets that help with support score?

[ripe ermine]

which build?

[slate cedar]

irrespective of build, thanks

[ripe ermine]

I am not 100% confident, but for light I think threat detector, vanish bomb at team mates, and glitch nades. For Medium heals, sonar, and defib for sure. And Heavies anything that blocks damage

[slate cedar]

sounds right. thank you

[last fulcrum]

ah

[shut niche]

Sonar better??

[loud verge]

Riot shield best change my mind

In game

[last nacelle]

I prefer blowing up the building around them

[azure temple]

I like blowing up thee church and hospitals, i wish there was bystanders

[gaunt vessel]

ds

[maiden epoch]

Fix the goo gun

[stable onyx]

Buff uzi

[silent wolf]

what's wrong with it?

[frosty idol]

Why does my game keep crashing with an error code.

o ya i feel that the mp5 needs a little bit more ammo

[rocky juniper]

The turret is pretty annoying. Maybe a nerv would come in handy

[summer mural]

Would love to see a healing mist/healing sprinkler grenade

[stable igloo]

could vary per rig, but most crashes I see are usually caused by too many objects moving at once (1 large building or multiple small buildings collapsing)

[stable igloo]

I'd actually love to see a healing mist that also replaces gas, could turn a really bad situation into a really weird/good one.

[agile lagoon]

How many skins are there that change the gun animation? For example there is this lever action skin that changes the rechamber but that’s all Ik of

[stuck spoke]

as a heavy main i agree

[stable igloo]

theres a few. off the top of my head theres also the shotgun on medium that you can turn into a one handed twirl for each shot to clear the chamber. believe dagger also has a super small dagger that has unique animations.

[agile lagoon]

Yeah, I hope down the line those animations could be easily more recognisable in the store

[stable igloo]

honestly they could fix this if they just made it so the animation tab when looking at overview of a weapon would change if you had a skin selected, even if you didn't own it.

[mellow vector]

Throw pyro n laugh at their suffering

[stuck spoke]

Does the medium's recon senses specialization count as an enemy detected for the weekly challenge?

[stable igloo]

no

[stuck spoke]

thanks

[mortal lake]

Please nerf the turret. It hits way to hard.

[last fulcrum]

ah

[stuck spoke]

i just played a game of ranked and i was setting up the nukes with c4, and my tm8 just kept on shooting my barrel and killing me the entire time '-'

[storm narwhal]

you can block sentry line of sight using goo grenade

[restive plover]

is the lewis gun best for heavies?

[twilit ledge]

best gadgets to carry as a medium with ak?

[steel loom]

SA1216 is meta rn but if you’re looking for one to get good at long-term i feel like lewis is the best option

[twilit ledge]

I personally prefer it over the shotgun and like to play as a more medium distance heavy

[steel loom]

Personally, gas nade, defib, and pyro
Gas nade to stall cashout, pyro to counter other’s gas, and defib because its defib

But you could swap gas with jump pad if you prefer movement

[civic turret]

how many fp points do i need to reach plat rank

[steel loom]

Too many

[kindred arrow]

theoretically m60 is better but it's a lot harder to aim than the lewis
autoshotgun is the best either way but it's (hopefully) not long for this world if the devs are remotely sane

the true best gun on heavies is a gas barrel with c4 stuck to it though

[steel loom]

Still debatable
IIRC theres something about the m60 having either worse falloff damage or not being able to headshot past a certain distance

[kindred arrow]

headshot max range

[chilly geyser]

bro the sa1216 hits as hard as all the other guns why do u guys keep saying it is a meta.

[stiff yarrow]

most sane heavy shotgun abuser

[boreal laurel]

The spam factor. You can make it a shotgun-machine-gun if you want.

[steel loom]

I want you to shoot with the other shotguns
And then with heavy’s shotgun
And get back to me

[chilly geyser]

The gun is not automatic after 2-3 shots u have to twist and turn it in a middle of a gun fight, so that is like an advantage in a middle of a gun fight for ur opponent, after 2-3 shots u are granted 5 fast shots an nine times out of ten that dose not even finish off ur opponent. the shotgun is only good if ur team is good and organized in a gun fight. i dont see why everyone keeps complaining that the shotgun is so powerful a lot matchs people tell me i should not even use the sa1216 because it is trash. the saud off shotgun on lightbuild is more powerful its litteraly 3 shots u are dead. which the sa1216 takes up to a full clip to finish off one opponent and u might get a squad wipe if you teamates already hit them up a little bit. 

I am currently on my last camo for the sa1216, this is my honest review on the weapon it is not the best i just like the aesthetic of the weapon an if playd well with it will do what has to be done.```

[stiff yarrow]

most sane abuser

[chilly geyser]

Litteraly the Devs of this game can watch me Vods using this weapon and they can decide for them selfs the sa1216 is not meta or OD its fairly balance on damage or even less damage.

[steel loom]

Wow no way the shotgun isnt good at range
Who could have seen this coming

This has to be bait

[chilly geyser]

it has range but it dose not hit as hard as an assault rifle. lets be honest, i use other builds light medium i am not defending the sa1216 honestly i like fair gameplay if a gun is OD and not fair i would admite it. but the gun is not even meta i think its fair. iv seen a lightbuild with a saud off take off a whole squad by going invisable

[steel loom]

I dont wanna bring rank into this but this sounds like a silver/bronze take tbh 😭
Anyone with headphones can hear a cloak around them and you should have teamplay in the team game

[lavish path]

chat gpt ahh message

[steel loom]

Dont get me wrong there is counterplay to the SA1216
But when the counterplay is “dont engage with it” thats when it needs a nerf yk?

[chilly geyser]

bro its a heavy build why would a heavy build be nerfed down to a lightbuild or a medium build ur not gonna go outside an fight a dude that goes to the gym every day and ur skinny asf. n expect it to be fair?? common sense??

[lavish path]

btw what are devs plans for the future updates? are we gonna get more weapons or what? the game is really fun to play but the lack of options when choosing a class and loadout is worrying me

[chilly geyser]

its how u move and how u attack are u a child?

[steel loom]

From what i understand, its going to be bare minimum one weapon and one gadget, but tbh i expect two of each

[steel loom]

Personally its just the fact that in every gun’s ideal conditions, it has the highest TTK against a heavy by a good chunk

[restive plover]

It one shots....

[chilly geyser]

dude no its not wtf are u smoking iv been using this gun for ages now. u can see me on stream raging on how bad it is. the gun is only good if u have good aim. if u are light build close range u will get demolished if you are 30 feet away it dose shit alls but it will still hit you.

[steel loom]

Yeah i’ve gotta give him that one it doesnt one shot

[lavish path]

if they keep adding weapons and gadgets to the game then its fine, i just already feel like the game is lacking stuff in this aspect

[steel loom]

It does one BURST even a heavy though and thats the issue

[chilly geyser]

everyone is making it seem like this gun is so amazing it is not. i actually want to use it because it dose what it is so post to do if they nerf it they might as well just take it out the game tbh.

when i get rising star i am gonna post clips in here to show u guys how diffcult the gun is to use.

[steel loom]

I’m kinda suprized you think that, i know medium and heavy have like 3 less weapons than light and that should be changed for sure
But otherwise i think balance changes are pretty fine for now as long as it isnt only at the end of a season

I think 10-12 weapons per class is fine, once everything is finished. Specializations should get 1-2 more and gadgets should have at least 2 more each class

[lavish path]

its probably just me, i got used to having tons of weapons/attachements to choose from in other games

[lavish path]

yup 10-12 weapons for each class should be more than enough

[steel loom]

Ohhhh yeah i dont think its gonna be like cod/siege in the attatchment type of thing
But yeah glad we come to an agreement on that
Dap me up 🤝

[chilly geyser]

lightbuild is the most beefiest build ever, every gun for lightbuild is beast except for the LH1, meduim build guns are OK.

[lavish path]

i expect it to be more like csgo tbh and thats fine

[steel loom]

^based

[lavish path]

🤝

[chilly geyser]

you guys know how to ruin games lol csgo come on, lets leave csgo as csgo we need this game to be its own legendary statement, why make another game old game as a new upcoming better game. ?

[steel loom]

Please explain how medium’s shotgun competes with heavy’s shotgun
I dont mean that sarcastically im geniunely curious on how you think they compare

[lavish path]

csgo in terms of having a lot of balanced weapons that players can choose from

[kindred arrow]

you get slightly more damage per shot in exchange for 4x as much time between shots

[steel loom]

Ah of course how could i have forgotten
And 10 less ammo dont forget
And a reload time that let people take a nap before shooting you

[chilly geyser]

dude laterally everything in the game is where it needs to be, and everything is working on how it needs to work. the only thing they really have to fix is the mouse AD an add more guns and maps that would dope.

[steel loom]

But can you explain how its balanced between the two of them?

[chilly geyser]

its laterally how your team plays its just like call of duty, their guns have no recoil "barely any" but they do the same amount of damage the shotgun only dose one shot in hardcore. every build you have to play accordingly if you approach a situation in the proper way you will succeed.

[kindred arrow]

dude, a game with 1s ttks where a single gun kills instantly like COD means that that one gun is overpowered

[steel loom]

Also “how your team plays” and “cod” usually dont go together but go on

[chilly geyser]

from me going to heavy and light i got domlished because its a whole diff play style. Lightbuild is more chill Medium is distance and semi aggresive.

[steel loom]

I can shoot at a heavy from 15 meters (thats where heavy’s shotgun really falls off)
And i can kill them with medium’s shotgun in 4 shots
Meanwhile they have walked forward three steps and removed me from this plane of existance

[chilly geyser]

did u have full health?

[steel loom]

Yeah LMAO

[chilly geyser]

ya i am gonna be honest if u are a light u get taken down pretty easy by ur self, but one thing iv relalized if you are with anothter teamate u seem to take more shots. Light is like 1-2 shots by ur self ur dead medium will eat up at 4-5 shots full health depending on if u hit those shots.

[kindred arrow]

you can do a little over 400 damage in a burst less than a second long with 0 aim skill

do you think 400dps bodyshot shotgun in this game is balanced when most guns barely crack 300dps with all headshots

[chilly geyser]

dude the sa1216 is trash my guy everyone says it is in game and they get suprised when i do good with it. use the s1216 an see how bad it is. u litteraly shoot 2-3 shots and u have to twist and turn it, by time u do that ur dead the only how ur staying alive is if u have good movement and the 350 helath u pack might win the fight.

[kindred arrow]

if you apply shotgun skill levels to the AKM (for example) you'll be lucky to do 150dps, literally a third of what the autoshotgun does

if you fail to kill someone before needing to twist it then you would have lost even harder with any other weapon

unless they're at long range, but if they're at long range you have a 1250 hp shield you can put up at any time and just walk towards them

[steel loom]

If i shoot at something for the same amount of time between medium’s shotgun and heavy’s shotgun
Heavy’s shotgun clip is reloaded, chewed through 2 teams, and medium’s is almost finished with their first 6 shots

[kindred arrow]

also yeah to clarify, by the time you can shoot 4 times with medium shotgun which usually is just enough to kill a heavy, heavy can fire 2 bursts of 4 shots which is enough to teamwipe

[chilly geyser]

bro ya u can rip thru a team with the shotgun if ur team has already shot them up a few times when they have lesser health, ya that is possible to do a team wip with the sa1216 but if the team has full health ur dying instantly.

[kindred arrow]

"i can't 1v3 facetank so the gun is bad"
???

the shotgun is better at the things a weapon is meant to do than any other weapon is

[chilly geyser]

the lightbuild sh1900 shotgun is way stronger then the sa1216

[kindred arrow]

you can literally kill the light before the light kills you with the autoshotgun

and against any other weapon that isn't a shotgun you will utterly dominate

there is nothing even an aimbotting medium can do against the autoshotgun in close range, you will bodyshot him to death with the shotgun before he can headshot you to death, even with the scar

[chilly geyser]

ofc u can if he is close enough to ur face then it dose more damage if the light is a distance it just peppers him up enough to re-collect the re group and do another approach.

[kindred arrow]

if you are losing 1v1s with the shotgun then you are intentionally throwing or you are trying to play the game with 1 hand

[steel loom]

If i had clip privilages i’d send you the single most fucked up thing in the game
Playing light with the smg, landing mostly headshots, heavy gets down to 50 health
He turns around, shoots me twice before i can blink and kills me instantly

Balanced btw

[proud parcel]

based heavy teaching lights to not get within 200 meters of them

[kindred arrow]

for light we are talking about at most 0.6 second ttk

[kindred arrow]

also do you mean in a 1v1? because the autoshotgun twists and keeps going for 3 more bursts while the double barrel has a 3 second reload

[chilly geyser]

dude i am litteraly on the last camo for the gun my average kills is 10-15 kills a game and prefer people to carry lol. no one uses the sa1216 no one uses it. i started consistantly playing this game on launch n nobody uses sa1216.

[kindred arrow]

you can fire 4 times and kill a medium, press mesh shield, and the gun will be ready again after you drop shield

[chilly geyser]

there is not one person in this discord that has the last camo for the sa1216.

[kindred arrow]

post the fucking screencap then

[frail spoke]

light shotgun is obviously busted combined with cloak

[chilly geyser]

LMAo look at sh1900 damage

[kindred arrow]

i find it pretty unlikely anyone has triangle twinkle for any primary in this game except maybe sledge by now, you get at most like 1.5k exp a game and you need somewhere around 400k exp to get triangle twinkle

and while 300 qp matches isn't a huge amount, 300 qp matches with the same gun every time definitely is

and you only get 1.5k if you're fragging out of your mind and getting over 20 kills each game

ok so let me get this straight

you think the autoshotgun is trash but you've used it for like 200 games at this point

[chilly geyser]

but i am the only person that uses it.

[kindred arrow]

lmao

i see at least 1 in every game, not uncommon to see 2

[chilly geyser]

everyone says it is trash, it is how u use it man that is it, all i know is the lightbuild and going invisable with the sh1900 is all i ahve been saying an that shit is OD beast, i am not complaining.

[proud parcel]

almost every heavy runs the sa1216 at least in reserve to whip out when they need it. it's stupidly powerful

[chilly geyser]

if they buff sa1216 the gun is complete trash they might as well take it out the game. everything for heavy is to defend and we can barely defend are self. if the team is bad then the heavy build weapons gadgets is complete useless unless the person using it is a complete IQer.

[kindred arrow]

do you want me to show you any of the many tier lists made by diamond rank players

[chilly geyser]

def will post some clips in here when i get rising star. for some reason my medal is bugged, i already know an iv been running ranked i could be the best of the ranks but dont have a good squad to be constistant and sweat with. an are these ranked players streamers?

[kindred arrow]

literally just got off a game where a team effortlessly dropped 2 20-bombs with 2 autoshotgun heavies

i have no idea what the fuck you mean "i never see them" unless your sbmm is so low you don't get in matches with people using the meta weapons in general

[warm lion]

bro just joined in 5 days ago
don't expect them to actually know meta lol

[chilly geyser]

i dont have to join the discord to know when iv been playing since launch and using every build?

[chilly geyser]

i do get in matchs with people that use the shotgun i just do better with it then them. just like there is matchs i play where people use lightbuild an everyone using sh1900 and invisible and just dominates floor. at the end of the day i wont complain i understand that, it is their specialty and it is up to me to try my best to come up with a game plan on how to get a upper hand and sometimes u wont get the upper hand i appreciate any type of gameplay but normally a lot people will do whatever to win. honestly it is how u approach every situation with the builds. every build has a part to play depending on how good the teams u are facing.

[tiny basalt]

mouse zoom sensitivity really sucks in this game. I don't know what it is but in any other FPS, when I ADS using iron sights or a scope then my aim is not affected as grossly as it is in the finals. Here, due to zoom sensitivity multiplier, I'm either too high or too low for accurate shooting.

The Finals needs to discriminate between iron sights and scopes. You cannot apply a one-size-fits-all approach to these two very, very different methods of aiming.

[vagrant portal]

git gud then

[tiny basalt]

you're an idiot

[vagrant portal]

how am i an idiot

[tiny basalt]

trying to explain why would only make me a bigger idiot for expecting you to understand at the end. We're done talking now. Bye

[clear jolt]

by being an idiot

[vagrant portal]

thats a real reason right there

[tiny basalt]

bottom line is iron sight and scope shouldn't have their multipliers tied together.

Focal length scaling doesn't help either. We don't need scaling, We need control of the aim sensitivity. It's just basic QoL imo

[halcyon summit]

c4 barrel op af why isnt it our yet

[formal inlet]

Bro is hilarious for saying the heavy shotgun is bad 🤣

[warm lion]

fr

[silent wolf]

They'll probably nerf the c4 stuff soon

[oak elk]

Didn't see this chat

We all agree APS is insane?

[chilly geyser]

the only decent gun heavy has is the sledge, u guys want light medium to do all the OD damage and medium but one gun on heavy is OD too good.

[formal inlet]

Wait the sledge is a gun?

[warm lion]

actual troll

[oak elk]

Yh what, heavy has the best gun in the game

Their shotty is out of the bag insane

[formal inlet]

The heavy shotty 2 taps lights

On good aim

Are you mad cos you can't run at light speed?

[chilly geyser]

bro that is if ur close in real life if someone pumps u up close range with a shotgun ur dead, if ur a decent distance the bullets spread so u have more chance of surviving. its common sense, its like u guys are not using ur common sense here u guys want stuff nerf so there will be no heavy builds.

[warm lion]

bro heavy has all the tools to make sure he only fights at ranges where it's strongest
and tools to one shot mfs outside shotgun range

[formal inlet]

Exactly like the dome shield

[chilly geyser]

dude iv been using lightbuild and medium build its ok but i prefer heavy when they fix ADS for mouse and keyboard then i will play more rifle builds i like my free aim.

[warm lion]

bro half your messages are in #heavy-build-main
how are you so wrong

[formal inlet]

Why tf did that autocorrelation to domestic Shield wtf

[warm lion]

auto correlation

[formal inlet]

It happened again lmai

And also mesh shield

[warm lion]

bro is prolly out here typing the most overcooked shit

[chilly geyser]

bro i have litteraly played with mutliple people that have the sa1216 they did not do good at all. if ur by ur self up aganist a shotgun ur gonna die fast u guys want the upper advantage in some circumstances u have to give credit where its do and understand the situation take a loose. if i am a little small guy going up aganist a big guy wit ha shotgun in my right mind its fair. like for instance u can take down the heavy builds easy by using a lightbuild and a taser. thats a how a guy defeated me completely he was good at it he caugt me off guard every time.

[formal inlet]

You got shit lobbies then🤷‍♂️

[warm lion]

yeah that's an awareness issue
not shotgun being not op

[formal inlet]

I mean when I first started using it I didn't know how but then I realised you could hold down mb1 and autofire

Bro is cooking up his final year 12 exam

[chilly geyser]

if i am getting 10 15 kills per game im pretty sure i am in really good lobbys there is no way i am doing good, then i am getting paired up with noob lobbys. i even carry in ranks but i dont like random squad ranks because no one cares about there ranks n they just play with 0 iQ. there fore u can tell im very good because who has unlocked there last camo yet.

[warm lion]

ok now go back to #heavy-build-main and ask them if heavy shotgun is op

[chilly geyser]

ya for mouse dude i gotta click it bro why are u even talking if ur a controller player l0l.

[formal inlet]

Fr everyone will say yes if they're not dumb