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[heady marsh]

ok i fixed it, do you also want the bundle icon or not?

[minor finch]

my screenshots have the yellow border around the bundle icon so no need to crop that, we can do those after release

[heady marsh]

ok

[heady marsh]

@minor finch here you go, all cropped

[minor finch]

thank you!

[heady marsh]

[heady marsh]

here are wt S9 badges too

[fickle rapids]

I didn't see any streamer showcase the cns multi device

Is there anywhere I can check it out

[polar flicker]

Jinko, probably

[ionic heath]

https://www.thefinals.wiki/wiki/World_Tour#World_Tour_Stops
more compact, less annoying to scroll.

not sure how the stops will function next season but at least old stuff won't take as much space in case the format will be drastically different

[fickle rapids]

he didnt

[polar flicker]

That's surprising. mb

[fickle rapids]

Its not shown in the store

so most ppl skipped over it

[polar flicker]

Rip

[fickle rapids]

I rlly wanted to see how the screen looked atleast

[ionic heath]

just wait one day and you can check it yourself

[polar flicker]

One more day until i can get my trentila hoodie

[sleek solstice]

There's a tonne of new info on the sponsors and CEOs we could type out on the wiki come S9 proper

[polar flicker]

Where exactly should we put these and should we seperate the background and CEO parts of the sponsor info to their respective pages or just chuck all of it on the sponsor's page bible

[sleek solstice]

I don't think there's a need to type them out verbatim unless its a quote, if its applicable to the sponsor we can add it to the blurb about it, if its about the CEO we can type it on their page

[polar flicker]

Alrighty

[sleek solstice]

There's a lot of relevant stuff here for both ends which is super cool and its about time we get to know more about them, only took 9 seasons 😭

[polar flicker]

I know, right? I still think they should release a massive lore drop video about the contestants themselves. Or just literally anything that isn't trying to be so incredibly secretive, I'm tired of of eves dropping on Diana and Scotty

Btw @sleek solstice does the notification say "CEO Ana Del Mar thanked you for your edit on Ana Del Mar"?

[sleek solstice]

Im fine with them being subtle as long as the story actually moves at an okay pace

[sleek solstice]

yep it does

[polar flicker]

XD

[polar flicker]

The pace has been moving like a half dead slug on a pile of salt rn. But if CNS does end up coming in mid way through s9 and changes the sponsor info pages to expose everyone i'll be happy

And I'm sure the lack of CNS in the major was a major disappointment for people who watched it live or actually went to Stockholm

[sleek solstice]

Yeah I think that's a common complaint with people following the lore especially since the major

[sleek solstice]

ngl I mainly watched the major to see CNS

[polar flicker]

That's brutal

[sleek solstice]

I mean it wasn't unfun but I was disappointed by that expectation not being met, oh well

[pale parcel]

I do have footage of it

Do you need it for the wiki or was it just curiosity

Oh wait it's actually in one of my videos
https://youtu.be/SPG8YD4e_S4?t=836

[polar flicker]

Do you show the volpe tablet?

[pale parcel]

don't remember

but if it's in the store or BP, yes, I have videos showing all these cosmetics

[polar flicker]

I'm willing to bet the volpe tablet is in the bonus page actually

[pale parcel]

OH my bad I thought you were talking about showing the multi device only, not a specific skin

[pale parcel]

https://youtu.be/-QmDczgUV7c?t=1099

[polar flicker]

Dayum that's cool

[sleek solstice]

The CNS Tablet is not in the store it seems, but its available for purchase

[polar flicker]

That's a shame

[polar flicker]

Y'know it's bad when i want fictional brands' products more than real ones

[pale parcel]

we need an inspect where we turn the tablet around tho

right now you cannot see this in game

[polar flicker]

I'm sure they'llve upgraded the inspect animation for this update.

Imagine if your contestant uses the pen to swipe on the screen instead of their fingers! that'd be sick as hell

[fickle rapids]

The full tablet along with the screen wasn't shown

I was just asking cuz of curiosity

[solar hull]

Hey, I was wondering if all the weapon skins are listed on the wiki? I know it used to have some gaps but from what i'm seeing, it seems complete nowdays

[lone monolith]

They should be relatively up to date. I was working on refreshing the way we did weapon cosmetic images but got busy

Aka like this

I see I messed up on one of them

[solar hull]

All good I was just double checking, thanks for your work!

(The only ones that seem to be missing are the TGM epic rewards from the pulsar mouse / mousepads / or attendees rewards but gl finding screenshots of those lol)

[ionic heath]

we only have icons
https://www.thefinals.wiki/wiki/The_Grand_Major_2025#Rewards

[solar hull]

I was actually precisely looking for the icons holy sht thank you

[ionic heath]

i think one of them is not there
let me find it

[solar hull]

It's prob the grey ak from the pulsar mouse but I'm only looking for heavy skins atm

[ionic heath]

yep

[solar hull]

If I somehow get my hands on them i'll send you guys a screenshot

[lament grail]

Im not able to change it at the moment, but I want to mention for the BFR's trivia section that the s9 battlepass inspect animation for it more or less confirms that it's chambered in .500 Bushwhacker rather than .500 magnum

[polar flicker]

holy gun nerd.

[lone monolith]

It is a game for everyone.

[lone monolith]

Why exactly does it confirm it’s chambered in .500 bushwhacker?

[heady marsh]

i love gun trivias, the fact that we got people that can provide additional info is allways good

[polar flicker]

Yeah

[lament grail]

.500 bushwhacker is a visibly longer cartridge than .500 S&W magnum, and the only straight wall .50cal cartridge that is. The bottom face of the cartridge in the reload animation already confirmed that it was a .500 cartridge of some sort, literally saying ".500" on it. the length of the round shown in the inspect confirms which one specifically
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.500_Bushwhacker

I wasn't sure before because, as I stated in the trivia section, the rounds shown in the promotional image looked to be rounds of .500 Magnum JHP, yet the spent casings dropped by the BFR ingame looked to be longer than that, but partical effects for spent casings can and are reused in games between different caliber weapons and aren't always accurate

However in this game, they do seem to be pretty on point

[lone monolith]

I'll add it

[lament grail]

👍👍

[sleek solstice]

What's the phrasing for the getcosmetics template that adds the origin like the old tables did?

[ionic heath]

i don't remember if raid added this for tables

[sleek solstice]

Do we think it'd be a good addition? The fields are already there since they show up on the style page on his page

[ionic heath]

yeah it's only for cards rn

[ionic heath]

for tables that would make sense on sponsor's pages ig 🤔

[sleek solstice]

yeah that's what I'm mainly concerned by, thats where most of my work is

[lone monolith]

Also updated Fangwai a bit

[polar flicker]

All we need in the gallery now is a picture of the construction site

[lone monolith]

I'll probably take a few screenshots when it launches in specator mode

Honestly a lot of the maps could probably use a touch up

[sleek solstice]

In what way?

[polar flicker]

After this optimization boost i'm not really worried about the maps anymore.

I still find it insane how extremely cpu bound this game is. I have a 9060xt and a 5600x and there are mfs out there with a 7600x3d and a 10 series card that get around the same average frame rate as me

[lone monolith]

I should’ve said the map pages

[sleek solstice]

yeah I understood, what do you think is missing

[polar flicker]

ohhh

[lone monolith]

The more away from Monaco and release the worse the pages get. That’s mainly just my fault since Monaco and to a lesser extent Seouls pages I designed originally thinking most maps would be both inspired by real locations and also have 3-4 big POIs per map.

[polar flicker]

Oh yeah Monaco's probably the most out of date rn. Gotta update Bernal as well

[lone monolith]

Technically it’s the other way around Monaco is the most up to date and fleshed out and everything else is lacking

[polar flicker]

I'm confused are we still talking about the wiki pages or not?

[lone monolith]

Yes

[polar flicker]

Okay. The suspended structure pictures for monaco are still the old ones but other than that it's fine

[ionic heath]

there's also a whole empty page about P.E.A.C.E. Center

[lone monolith]

I think it’s better left that way

[minor finch]

Yeah I've been meaning to add this for the table cards, will take a look in a bit

Really we need to rewrite CosmeticCard and its stylesheet to make this all possible from one template. Right now tables use a separate one.

[minor finch]

this attributes list is a whole lot longer than I first envisioned

but I'd rather have one we don't need than need one we don't have

[polar flicker]

Fair enough

[fickle rapids]

the sledge skin in s1 bp hasnt been updated to mythic rarity

[ionic heath]

do you know when it was updated?

[fickle rapids]

i think season 7

I will have to check which all skin rarities were updated to mythic

[ionic heath]

updated 👍

we're still missing an icon for it tho

[fickle rapids]

wdym?

[ionic heath]

not the pretty bp one i mean
the one from skin selection

[fickle rapids]

I have the skin

Let me see if I can take ss

[ionic heath]

if you can send a screenshot of it's icon from equipment menu would be awesome
preferably while it's not selected or highlighted

[fickle rapids]

how do I take a higher quality image

[ionic heath]

oh it's supposed to be small

[fickle rapids]

is my ss good enough?

idk if you need this but here is the mythic description

[ionic heath]

yeah yours is fine

[fickle rapids]

no other updated mythic skins

[ionic heath]

thanks

[ionic heath]

how are we adding tablet skins and screens to the cargo?
aka. what attributes are we using?

Maybe for skins:

| Type= SKIN
| IsEquipmentSkin=1
| Equipment=Multi-Device

and for screens:

| Type= SCREEN

[heady marsh]

guys now that wt points can be earned across all gamemodes, is there a chart with how many points per win/loose we get in each mode, so that we can put it in the wiki

also, should we keep the quickplay page or make a global page with all the info?

I found some hd icons and other things that could be useful in the finals website

[ionic heath]

i think we should rewrite wt page and keep quickplay's progression archived there
also no chart but

Quickplay Win 4 points
Quickplay Loss 2 points
2nd place in Quick Cash 3 points

[heady marsh]

are these tested or official?

[ionic heath]

i tested

didn't get a chance to play tournament yet
i will make a table after i will

[ionic heath]

i won cashout game but it didn't show me how much i got after the match and i don't remember exactly how much i had before 🙄
win is roughly 25 points so i'm guessing it's the same

[vocal snow]

Anyone know how much you get in ranked?

[heady marsh]

we are still testing

https://www.thefinals.wiki/wiki/World_Tour#tabber-Cashout

[ionic heath]

cashout and ranked cashout award same amount of points as WT did before
and points for badges seem the same

[minor finch]

This is how I envisioned it yeah, and what the templates are currently written to expect

[ionic heath]

Updated the page as best as i could
https://www.thefinals.wiki/wiki/World_Tour
I didn't touch rewards yet because no idea what's up with them yet

Wording and description are probably not very good so if anyone can do a review and polish it out i'll kiss them platonically

also i used old images from season 3 for wt stops because i have no idea where to source new ones
they're similar.... but not the same

[heady marsh]

i can try later

[ionic heath]

RAID I'M SORRY

[minor finch]

what?

[ionic heath]

we were editing the same page at the same time no?

nvm it was an hour ago

[minor finch]

oh that's fine it's my fault for adding the outfit then not anything else lol

I wish the cashout modes had unique covers 😭

[heady marsh]

i have this if it could be usefull

[minor finch]

It's not consistent with the other renders unfortunately

[ionic heath]

slap these icons on top

i think i had some of them

[heady marsh]

):

[ionic heath]

i don't have h2h and pb icons sadly

[heady marsh]

i can remake them

after i finish the game i'll make them

first

[ionic heath]

legend

[heady marsh]

[heady marsh]

i changed it, look it up

did we need to put badges images or somehow the emerald guns images like other seasons?

we have these too

[polar flicker]

Anniversary skins, my beloved.

[heady marsh]

they are dope

[ionic heath]

before they changed rewards i thought about putting reward coins there but since they've been moved to ranked ig we can put badges there

[heady marsh]

do we need to change the other reward tabs to match this one, like removing the names since they are repetitive

[ionic heath]

I think old ones are fine
for now we can leave them be until we add items to cargo

[heady marsh]

ok

i already gave the badges png togheder with other png stuff

[minor finch]

why did the tabbers template stop working overnight

nevermind fixed it

[sleek solstice]

I love it when code decides to spontaneously disobey

[minor finch]

how does this look?

thanks @heady marsh for recreating the point break icon

[heady marsh]

Cool!

[heady marsh]

You're welcome man

Don't we have a special icon or image for the ltms?

[minor finch]

There's this uploaded by @sour flare but I'm not sure if the icon was official or not

[heady marsh]

From what season is this from? I remember seeing it somewhere, it looks official to me

[sour flare]

icon is not official i made it myself

[minor finch]

I'd like to propose that we move patches and events above the battle pass on season pages, so we don't need to make large breakline gaps just to keep it below the infobox.

[frigid stone]

I will take a crack at adding all the missing sponsorship cosmetic stuff today.. but should I use this cosmetic page? Also, does temp id matter?

[heady marsh]

we should make a season page template instead of fixing every season page each time we make a change for all the forseable pages

Also, can we make that when doing the random page select in the wiki cosmetics item tables do not pop up?

[ionic heath]

you can use this page
https://www.thefinals.wiki/wiki/User:Raid/AddCosmeticTemp

id is just a thing in case cosmetic items have the same name so type random numbers

how to use the table is written in comments when you're creating a page

and well ofc if something ain't working and if you have questions on how to use it you can just ask here

[heady marsh]

@ionic heath can you do it?

[ionic heath]

even if i knew how i don't have admin on the wiki :P

[heady marsh]

f

[ionic heath]

but it probably could be done

[heady marsh]

btw i made the wt points table horizontal, lmk if you like it

[ionic heath]

i have concerns about the phone readability because of the way you did it 🤔

i mean i guess it fits ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[ionic heath]

changed it
now it won't squish weirdly on tiny screens

[minor finch]

For sponsorship items use the "sponsorship" part of this page. Just added a custom preload that moves the relevant attributes to the top: https://www.thefinals.wiki/wiki/User:Raid/AddCosmeticTemp

The ID of each cosmetic is handled in the background now, no need for us to set one ourselves. The reason for adding 4 digits to the end of pagenames is just to avoid clashes.

[frigid stone]

does it tell me if there's already a cosmetic with the same name?

[minor finch]

Not currently, I mean to add something for that, but right now we can query sponsorship items to find which have already been added

[frigid stone]

where exactly can they be queried?

or is that done off-site

[heady marsh]

@minor finch can you do the random page thing i mentioned earlier?

[minor finch]

There are a couple ways to check.

On your user page, you can use GetCosmetics like so to find all items added for each sponsor so far. Purge page cache to re-check when needed.

{{GetCosmetics|requirements=IsSponsorshipReward=1 AND SponsorshipSponsor="dissun"|format=Cards|orderby=SponsorshipLevel}}

You can also use Cargo's drilldown to filter the table by the SponsorshipSponsor attribute, although this only returns pagenames and not icons or level number. https://thefinals.wiki/wiki/Special:Drilldown/CosmeticsTable

If needed you can view a list of all cosmetic pagenames here: https://thefinals.wiki/wiki/Category:CosmeticPages

[minor finch]

Just added a query for all of them here if you want to check: https://www.thefinals.wiki/wiki/User:Raid

Basically none have been added already, only a few Holtow items and the Trentila outfit.

[minor finch]

I'll take a look

[heady marsh]

thanks

[frigid stone]

I finished adding the missing sponsorship rewards from previous sponsors and added the ones from season 9 to the sponsorship page

I'll look into doing cosmetic pages for sponsorship rewards in a second here

[frigid stone]

just to make sure, it'll take time before they begin showing up, right?

[minor finch]

They'll be added to the table immediately, but the cache for any page using {{GetCosmetics}} to fetch them needs to be cleared for them to show up. This happens naturally every few hours or can be forced with "purge cache" or by re-saving the page.

Now they're in the db they appear everywhere, much time saved 😄

[frigid stone]

what should be done for items that are rewards alongside the outfit? ex:

should they be the same sponsorship level as the outfit or not have one?

or is this where IsLevelRepresentation would be used

[polar flicker]

Same sponsorship level

[minor finch]

Yep this is why that attribute exists. They can be added at the same level, with IsInOutfit=1, OutfitID filled in, and IsLevelRepresentation left blank.

Thanks for adding volpe and trentila

When we display sponsorship rewards, we can require IsLevelRepresentation=1 so outfit pieces don't cause clutter.

[frigid stone]

Another question, is the BadgeType supposed to be BadgeLevel? And is it Pascal case or lowercase for the value? I've seen lowercase for BadgeLevel, but BadgeType's comment uses Pascal case

[ionic heath]

it should be lowercase

[ionic heath]

yes it's lowercase
here's an example
https://www.thefinals.wiki/wiki/Cosmetic:HOLTOW_SIGNEE-TempID-5533

(sorry for slow response my government decided to block cloudflare again and i couldn't access anything from my phone )

[minor finch]

This will all become easier when we have Page Forms and can make dropdown options for attributes like these

[frigid stone]

Sounds nice. Probably my last question for now would be: for Alfa Acta is it alfa-acta (or alfa_acta) for the Sponsors attribute? Or is it alfa acta

I couldn't find an existing cosmetic for them yet

[sleek solstice]

I think its 'alfa acta' but I dont think any of their cosmetics were ported over for a name to be picked yet

I think I used 'alfa acta' on the Boreal Wisp FAMAS

[heavy gale]

I'll get it fixed next week

[heady marsh]

thanks luke

[heady marsh]

is it a bug that the game gives you quickplay gold 1 reward even if i was gold 3?

[minor finch]

It's been like this for 3 seasons. I still don't think it's intended because the rewards page specifically says "Gold 1", so

but I'm sure Embark would've fixed it by now if it was truly an issue

[heady marsh]

I only noticed now that i didn't manage to do gold 1 lol, do we need to mention it in the page?

[minor finch]

I would just label it as a "Gold" reward on the wiki

[heady marsh]

ok, I should test if it's the same thing with wt ranks cause a friend of mine told me they got plat 1 mb even if they were not 1, altough i don't have 100% confirmation it spiked my curiosity

[polar flicker]

I mean quickplay's dead now so..

[frigid stone]

Okay, hopefully all sponsorship cosmetics have been added correctly. The only thing technically missing is the individual items for a few outfits.

[frigid stone]

Sponsorship outfits missing items:

• FORTIMANCER
• SILENT MARCH
• POUR RUNNER
• EXCLUSION CLAUSE
• DATACRYPTER
• ROPE-A-DOPER

[frigid stone]

there are some unecessary redirect pages, but I have no clue how to prevent them nor how to remove them

[ionic heath]

you can go to redirect page and edit it replacing redirect with [[Category:Candidates for deletion]]

[minor finch]

realizing how inconsistently Embark defines "bundles" and "outfits"

there are "outfits" that present themselves as bundles but that have a completely different name and description to the actual outfit

so I might just give them the "bundle" type, even if all they contain is the outfit and nothing else

[ionic heath]

not to mention that there're some bundles that are not marked as outfits or bundles 🙄

btw can i just say that i think they forgot to put background and border in champions bundle
cause i have icons for them
but they're not in the game at all

[minor finch]

Maybe they were only given to the NMTR team?

[ionic heath]

well
https://www.reachthefinals.com/major25
false advertising?

at least there's this sick cashbox image

and this audiofile egg just chilling nearby

[sleek solstice]

[lone monolith]

It's 6 minutes of morse code

https://tenor.com/view/madagascar-private-its-no-good-i-dont-know-the-codes-codes-gif-23546774

[frigid stone]

I'm not sure why it has it, but .mw-parser-output table.controls on wikitable controls adds margin which causes an outline to be visible (bottom left)

[heady marsh]

we be doing everything for png nowdays

[ionic heath]

fixed it

[ionic heath]

expanded Infographic template with a new display function.
mostly for consistency on phone displays but also to unify the look with infoboxes. (caption is optional, it's for demonstration purposes )
https://www.thefinals.wiki/wiki/Template:Infographic

let me know if there's any other display variants i should add to that big boy

old variant with[[File:image|right]]/ new with the Template:Infographic / new pc version

[minor finch]

I've added a new attribute IsLimitedTime. It serves a similar purpose to IsObtainable but doesn't need updating if a cosmetic comes back.

For example, any limited-time store bundles, themed items that return occasionally, or event rewards can have IsLimitedTime=1.

I'm wondering if we should then redefine IsObtainable to mean cosmetics that are permanently gone and will not be obtainable again, like past ranked rewards and BP bonus pages.

That would mean, when limited items return, we would not need to bother updating IsObtainable for each of them, because they already have IsLimitedTime=1. The goal is to save time for us.

[heady marsh]

I think that "is obtainable" does not explain the concept of "you cannot get it anymore" really well, we need to find a way to categorize cosmetics that either have never been obtainable or can't be obtained anymore and why

[violet lance]

Maybe fuse it into an enum Obtainable with "YES", "LIMITED" and "NO"

[minor finch]

hm I think multiple boolean attributes is still the way to go, so we can combine them if needed. maybe:

IsLimitedTime=1 applies to any cosmetic that isn't permanently available
IsUnobtainable=1 means the cosmetic will never be available again
IsUnreleased=1 means the cosmetic has not been made available yet

so IsLimitedTime=1 and IsUnobtainable= (blank / 0) would match:

• seasonal store items
• event rewards
• recon senses rewards
• cns sponsorship

IsLimitedTime=1 and IsUnobtainable=1 would match:

• past ranked rewards
• bp bonus pages
• beta battle passes

and if we ever have a situation where IsUnreleased=1 makes sense (but we don't datamine or leak), then we use that

[heady marsh]

were there any event in S3 and 4?

[minor finch]

Yes, some https://www.thefinals.wiki/wiki/Events

[heady marsh]

ok but not ltms right?

[minor finch]

that's right

[heady marsh]

ok thanks, asking cause i'm polishing the ltm page and i didn't see s3 and 4

why the wt page says that you will be awarded 3 emerald reward coin while in game says 1

[sleek solstice]

in game page is wrong/outdated:
#game-announcements message

[heady marsh]

oh ok

[ionic heath]

https://www.thefinals.wiki/wiki/Template:Special

let me know if i forgot something

[heady marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/ascending-energy-galaxy-gif-17739196

[ionic heath]

it should be easy to use, but the main point was to standardise the look of all possible text and its combinations that could go there and use them in CosmeticCard later

[heady marsh]

I think it's better that we (talking generally) first standardize some wiki aspects that are repetitive, the power of templates is unmatched

good work btw

[minor finch]

New attributes:

• RankRank: Similar to RarityRank. Numerically ranks the different ranks (bronze-diamond). Only needed for orderby=RankRank.
• IsUnobtainable: Replaces IsObtainable. Basically the same but flipped around. Used for any cosmetic that will never be available again.
• IsUnrelased: Any unreleased cosmetics (but not leaks or datamines, we don't add those to the wiki)
• SoundAudio: Audio files for in-game sounds. Not always needed but the option to play this file will show up on the Style page.

[primal stump]

Are the gadgets gonna get Skin sections like weapons have them?

[ionic heath]

yeah but with icons instead
like bfr and p90 have right now

also animations list
there's one on p90 and akm pages already

not full ofc
but we'll get there

[heady marsh]

can we merge cashout station pages like how vaults and coin vaults are?

[rare kindle]

Small thing, the https://www.thefinals.wiki/wiki/Point_Break is not listed on the menu under gamemodes on the Wiki, I found it through the patchnotes wiki page

[minor finch]

Fixed! thanks

[rare kindle]

Thank you guys

Also do we know how long it takes to Arm and Disarm in Point Break yet?

I think that was the only missing bit

[heady marsh]

i'm working on that, i recorded only 1 instance and it was 5/6 seconds i'm not sure

[rare kindle]

Vanguard Gaming will be running another Club War against TAMA in the 8v8 Point Break, so we should have good recorded instances from Caster POV of the nuances of the mode, and this will be something I can report back if nothing has been locked in.

[violet lance]

The new map is missing here https://www.thefinals.wiki/wiki/Arenas

[minor finch]

added

[jaunty creek]

I would really love a theater mode in The Finals. Grabbing screenshots and clips from inside of the finals from different perspectives would be great!!

Similair to what CS has 😄

[sharp quarry]

Believe its 10 seconds to disarm

[heady marsh]

5 seconds to arm

i think disarming it's the same

40 seconds to complete a vault or cash or idk

@rare kindle

[sharp quarry]

Way more than 5

[heady marsh]

ok, fixed timings
5s arm
8s disarm
40s detonate

[clear moat]

Hi in the in-game style menu's, is it possible to filter on new items only?

Currently I have to scroll through the entire list to find whats new

And the small yellow dot is not so greatly visible.

[heady marsh]

you can filter by the two little button besides you character in the style or every cosmetic screen

[clear moat]

But I can't seem to find a 'Filter by NEW' button

Or should I put it on S9 or something?

[heady marsh]

yes s9 are the item aquired this season so more recent

[ionic heath]

i felt like sometimes it's quicker

does the arming process not reset if the vault was armed and then disarmed?

[heady marsh]

yes if you in that 40s disarm the grand vault the arming process resets and therefore attackers need to rearm it

[ionic heath]

istg it started from like 50% a couple of times
but maybe it was ui bugging out 🤔

[heady marsh]

idk, some fade ins and outs are bugged across all game

[dapper sapphire]

some minors errors in that page
https://www.thefinals.wiki/wiki/Gamemodes

fixed version here
https://www.thefinals.wiki/wiki/User:Raid/Game_Modes

... yeah raid i fixed the code in your page

[ionic heath]

@heady marsh this werewolf fella was indeed correct
i assumed that quick cash point system functions the same as it was during quickplay

i now wonder if there's any other modes that award different points or is it a mistake

because i tested only on tdm and point break
i don't usually play quick cash

[heady marsh]

I did test the quick play points and the first round is /win is 4 on head2head at least

[ionic heath]

yeah but i played couple quick cash games and
1st - 6 points
2nd - 4 points

i didn't manage to get 3rd but i assume it's 2

[heady marsh]

Hmm, I need to better track my points or do further testing

[ionic heath]

could quick cash having different points be unintended? 🤔

[heady marsh]

Idk I will test all of them slowly and make a table

[heady marsh]

@ionic heath head 2 head has 2 for loss and 6 for win

i was at 288 +2 + 6 =296

[polar flicker]

How should I add that X7//AV, DXZ and CR-MP are owned by IVADA?

[heady marsh]

really? i didn't knew that

[heady marsh]

make it a subtabber or category

[polar flicker]

Yeah i found a little CR-MP on the drift shot ak skin

[heady marsh]

maybe it's just put togheder like the racing suit, we need more points

[polar flicker]

The X7//AV logo is found with CR-MP on another skin i think but i don't know which

[heady marsh]

hm understand

[polar flicker]

I'll try and find it

And should i just put "[X] is most likely owned by IVADA because of [Y]"

[heady marsh]

yes add proofs or references of why do you think so

[polar flicker]

Here it is on the Drift shot AK though

Oh i found the other skin it's on! The curb hugger skins which is pretty much a yellow and red version of the drift shot skins

On the yellow part in the bottom left

I think this is fairly definitive that CRMP is an IVADA company

I do forget though. What is the exact reason for X7//AV being IVADA?

Beyond the general design and theme having IVADA's name written all over it

[polar flicker]

I was thinking i'd put it in the overview

[heady marsh]

idk

[sleek solstice]

We don't know if these brandmarks are owned by IVADA though do we?

[polar flicker]

I think we do

[sleek solstice]

what points to it being owned by them

[polar flicker]

There are a lot of IVADA cosmetics with X7//AV on them

I think the city lancer set has it? If not it defo has a lot of the symbols on drift shot and curb hugger

[sleek solstice]

I don't think the symbols being on the same cosmetics together should be seen as confirmation, definitely some sort of relation but nothing concrete

[polar flicker]

Really?

I think it's fairly definitive the amount of times we see X7//AV and DXZ on IVADA stuff

[sleek solstice]

I'm not really convinced and I think with these cases, its better to wait for outright confirmation

ALFA ACTA and VOLPE showed up a few times together on skins, but we don't know if theyre a package deal for example

[polar flicker]

But with this they all have the same writing and style

[minor finch]

@ionic heath I'm about to recreate the Cargo table to add a TwitchDropSubs attribute

also StoreVersion is becoming a list, so limited-time items can have their new store appearances included

[ionic heath]

[minor finch]

also looking at the special templates now

[ionic heath]

i changed colours for the sponsors so they're not as bight now and should be less distracting
and moved the limited / unobtainable / etc to the bottom for the cards

special cards are still unfinished though

[rustic cypress]

is there a wiki page for approved devices or something similar? like does anyone know if foot pedals binded to the same key (i.e. right click) would be acceptable?

[polar flicker]

Are you asking if there's a wikipage for devices that the anitcheat won't pick up as bad?

[rustic cypress]

no im asking if thats accepted; like in osrs it doesnt matter how you give the input, as long as youre doing the clicks yourself and not using an autoclicker; thats why im wondering if its accepted and thats why im wondering if theres a wiki page explaining whats allowed and not; like youre allowed to use external crosshairs right? i know thats something the devs have touched on; for the foot pedals its not autoaim or autoclicking its a legitimate input from the player

[polar flicker]

If it's a legitimate input that's fine

[minor finch]

why do list attributes stop working when they have more than one item

[minor finch]

StoreVersion=910 - fine, great
StoreVersion=510,910 - attribute self combusts, nothing gets stored

and StoreVersion is declared as List (,) of Integer so there shouldn't be a problem

the same happens with other integer list attributes like BundleID & OutfitID

[heavy gale]

does there need to be a space between the comma?

[minor finch]

tried both ways

[heavy gale]

could be worth trying a different delim, wonder if it's causing problems as Cargo formats ints to have , when needed.

[minor finch]

hmm yeah I was thinking of recreating the table again to switch

what character won't cause problems?

[heavy gale]

could try |

[heady marsh]

raid i've sent you the test i did on the arena thing in dm, give it a look when you have time

[heavy gale]

wait no, that might cause problems with the template

[minor finch]

that is the one character that has caused the most problems on the wiki by far lol

[heavy gale]

try ;

[minor finch]

will look!

[minor finch]

still nada

[minor finch]

Thanks! I've just updated it to make the logic a bit simpler. It now takes one argument (the mode name) and puts this into one {{#switch:}}

Like this, with all:

{{#switch: {{{1|}}}
 | Cashout =
... arena list...
 | Team Deathmatch =
... arena list ...
}}

Does that still follow what you had in mind?

[heady marsh]

I had in mind to create a table like in the gamemode pages to make it pretty but still works yess

[heavy gale]

mmmmm, lemme try some stuff on test wiki

[minor finch]

Can make it a table! I just kept the bullet list that was already there.

[heady marsh]

ok thanks man

i was thinking on making like a table with arena name and arena modifiers that the arena can have

[heavy gale]

does seem like List of Integer does not work for some reason. List of String though does

[minor finch]

very strange, thanks for checking

I think we could change StoreVersion to a string list then and write each version fully (9.1.0 instead of 910)

you know a cargo table hates to see me coming

it recreates slower than it used to

[heavy gale]

depends on how many jobs are in a queue as you'll have HTML cache updates, link updates etc etc

[minor finch]

yeah it really sped up for the second half

[heady marsh]

Thank me later @EmbarkStudios :eggpet: (jk)

[polar flicker]

Can't wait to see what the level 13 gateway skin looks like in-game on Christmas... 2030

[heady marsh]

i will never get it in my lifetime i think

[polar flicker]

I don't think anybody will see it 'til we're all heads in jars like in Futureama

[heady marsh]

FR man

btw, do you have the lvl 13 xp number?

[polar flicker]

I could try and grind out my pyro nade levels to check

[heady marsh]

i'm 1 and a half level away

[polar flicker]

I used to think it was good a long time ago and got to level 10 with it

[heady marsh]

no sorry a half only

[polar flicker]

Oh well you'll get it before me then

[heady marsh]

i hope

that ??? is getting a little to long in terms of updating

[polar flicker]

On what weapons/gadget are you half away on?

[heady marsh]

pyro, half to level 12

[polar flicker]

Alr

[heady marsh]

oh shi i forgot the turret and healing beam

[polar flicker]

you run turret and pyro!?

[heady marsh]

i mean the png

[polar flicker]

Oh good

[polar flicker]

I think you might've forgotten goo gun as well?

[heady marsh]

yes thanks

[heady marsh]

i allways forgot them hehe

[polar flicker]

How did you get these without the lock symbol btw?

[ionic heath]

new mastery skins look cool on some things but on most the texture behaves weirdly

[heady marsh]

photoshop script that replaces the lock with same pattern

[heady marsh]

yeah );

[polar flicker]

Ah i see

[polar flicker]

I noticed that kinda thing a lot with the red striped TGM skins from last season. The ones that were black and had red glowing lines

[ionic heath]

I'm especially sad about goo grenade because it has an awful seam right through it

[ionic heath]

yeah!
but it was less prominent on the weapons at least

[heady marsh]

the seam are in the other tiers of the same gadget too )))):

[polar flicker]

Couldn't of even masked it by putting in on the side you don't see

[polar flicker]

Damn it's everywhere

Gotta love that inclusive quadruple chin smiley

[heady marsh]

the proximity is the worst man

[polar flicker]

yeesh

[ionic heath]

btw gonna drop something from the kitchen
new cosmetic card I've been cooking
https://www.thefinals.wiki/wiki/Template:SpecialCard

it's unfinished and most likely will stay that way until the new year cause i had things pop up

[heady marsh]

Sick man, I would put more effort in the wiki too but life ain't lifing atm

[polar flicker]

That's amazingly good. Some more work on the patterns for the sponsor's banner thingo would be cool. No idea why Upass is listed as limited though

[heady marsh]

cause u can't get it if you buy legacy

[polar flicker]

You sure? It doesn't say anywhere that, that's the case but ig we'll get confirmation next season

[heady marsh]

I mean, I can suppose based of the fact that they don't give you multibucks and bonus pages so imagine ultimate 😭

[polar flicker]

Yeah true. And like most of the point in getting ultimate is for benifits in that season

[heady marsh]

Done, uploaded, we missing the 3 of the specs

i'll do them tomorrow

[ionic heath]

yeah for now it's mostly an assumption but a pretty solid one

[ionic heath]

there was an idea to just use sponsor's logo as an icon instead but it didn't look very well
plus i toned down colours a lot so they wouldn't be too distracting/confusing in the grand scheme of things

[polar flicker]

Fair enough. As long as holtow's banner still looks like poo I'm happy

[ionic heath]

tbh sponsors thing goes against all the color coding I've done for this

white - free
orange - multibuck
gray with orange border - $$$

so I'm not even sure if i should keep it
but it is neat to have ig

but on the other hand
there's twitch drops and ranked/wt rewards that don't follow this pattern
they're technically free

[polar flicker]

Mark 'em with both then!

[ionic heath]

oh they are already

tbh diamond / ruby / emerald looks sick as hell

and i did that on accident while messing around with gradients

[polar flicker]

Yeah that's my favourite part

[ionic heath]

who knew that you can do cool colour mixing by making gradient parts transparent

[polar flicker]

the pumpkin drop is only marked with s4 twitch drop and limited time

[ionic heath]

my only concern is that it won't lag the hell out of someone's old phone

[polar flicker]

Maybe display limited time items with a clock icon in the top right and when you hover over it or tap on it it explains what it is?

[ionic heath]

it's not implemented yet
right now i think raid made so twitch drops have purple border

[polar flicker]

Ah okay

[ionic heath]

what you see on the page is only on that page

well beside ranked stuff
which raid did before i started this

[polar flicker]

I think drops having a banner is better ngl. Question is though how are you gonna display drops that cost money

Hmm maybe put the price above the icon just so having 3 banners in one spot doesn't look ridiculous?

[ionic heath]

that is one way to do it but then it can look a bit weird and confusing if the icon itself has that clock symbol

[polar flicker]

True.

[ionic heath]

shouldn't matter
drops are drops

[ionic heath]

there shouldn't be any instances where the card would have more than 2 🤔

there is a way to display limited icon banner beside the normal banner in one line
but in some cases text is too long and it would extend itself to the second line anyway

[polar flicker]

Limited time event store items maybe? Since if we aren't tagging drops with the price then yeah you might be right

[ionic heath]

i plan to make cards slightly bigger and maybe i can also make font a little bit smaller so it would fit
but i need to test this first

if they're limited time store items they're not an event reward
even if they're tied to the event

these banners only to display how / when to get (or not to get anymore) an item
not to show the relations with the events, sponsors or something like bundles

[polar flicker]

Ah okay i see. Makes sense

[heady marsh]

@ionic heath I don't know if it's intentional but the circular gradient is not centered in the special template

[ionic heath]

which one?

[ionic heath]

probably not the gradient's fault
i'll check in a bit if that's a quick fix
altho these are just a silly thing i never really thought could get any use

[heady marsh]

yeah don't worry about them too much if they are a side quest thing for now

[ionic heath]

ok so
fixing it would also mean that everything else breaks
and also somehow this happens

and my sick brain is not ready to deal with that today

also it would still look misaligned because the text is italic

my solution:
to hope and pray that nobody notices or cares enough

[polar flicker]

I think make it all like the fire gradient so there is no real center

[heady marsh]

Fair

[ionic heath]

then goo and smoke gonna look very similar

also i have 0 idea where we can use this ngl

[polar flicker]

Make goo brighter than smoke then

[ionic heath]

i'll look into that when i get some free time (by current forecast it's not gonna be this year )

[polar flicker]

Riperoo. Good luck

[minor finch]

The stylesheets used by the CosmeticTableRow and Rarity templates for some reason do not carry over onto the Style/New page, so this is left unstyled

The CosmeticCard stylesheet works of course

[polar flicker]

Nooo it doesn't have style!

[minor finch]

I suspect why

Kind of awkwardly fixed it by just calling the stylesheets manually at the top of the Style/New page

[polar flicker]

Yippie it's stylish again!

[ionic heath]

yeah i have a feeling we gotta chop style page into multiple smaller ones
it's gonna get very very VERY LONG otherwise

[dapper sapphire]

hmmmm... I wonder

[robust chasm]

i always end up picking up objects instead of reloading or vice versa. i know of the prioritize option, but i dont want that. i want to custom map each on to a diff button. i am on ps5. anyone know?

[foggy tiger]

Dont suppose any of you legendary wiki guys have the TV head video file by chance? 🙂
https://discord.com/channels/1008696016318513243/1451618671268204688

[ionic heath]

i can take a look at game's video files later but most likely it's not a video and just images displayed with effects on top

[foggy tiger]

Amazing, I can work with those also! 🙂

[minor finch]

The Style page now exceeds the template include size limit, so some cosmetics don't appear. We could split it into subpages to address this, like so. Thoughts?

The subpage "Style" is for cosmetics that appear under the "Style" category in-game. To avoid confusion, we could rename the main page (that these links appear on) to "Customization" or similar.

[minor finch]

wait you said this yesterday

but yeah we should, now that a new limit has been exceeded that actually stops cosmetics appearing

I saw Wetbattery was experimenting with something similar a little while ago as well

[weary zephyr]

just read this stroke of genius on the .50 Akimbo page

[polar flicker]

LOL

aiming for the titties is the way to go but headshot on deags is very powerful

[polar flicker]

I wonder who thunk that up though

[weary zephyr]

Society if deagles did 100 damage to the head

https://tenor.com/view/mundo-feliz-onetreehsll-world-if-gif-14071235670792471304

[ionic heath]

me if deagles did 100 headshot 🤤

[weary zephyr]

yeah I'm thinking Embark should add this to the game. I think it would really offset these insane nerfs they gave to it (lowered its range by like 5m over a year)

[ionic heath]

removed the line

[ionic heath]

this incredible line was born on March 17 the year of our lord 2025 by ShockaTheBaka

honestly the whole guide section needs a slight refresher because weapon turned into something more mid-range since then

[polar flicker]

Yeah

[ionic heath]

also this comment
idk what it says but well
it's there

[polar flicker]

Is the wiki and main finals servers down for anyone else?

[minor finch]

I don't think we need events in season infoboxes if they are already listed on the page. These infoboxes are already quite long due to the headers so it may be worth removing this.

Same goes for the Battle Pass tbh. This information rarely changes, is already included on the page itself, and the "theme" could probably be moved up and recontextualized as the whole season's theme, not just the BP.

If we removed those we could make room for season navigation within the infobox itself.

[heavy gale]

do it

[ionic heath]

should we remove pagination from the top of the page then? :0

[minor finch]

The pagination does a good job but I think the infobox version better conforms to standard wiki practices, iykwim, so yeah can remove methinks

[ionic heath]

the one at the bottom can stay i think 🤔

[minor finch]

Idm that

Like there are lots of custom things we make for the wiki, but overall page format and styling I think should not stray too far from established mediawiki practices. That's why I suggest we don't use <big> tags or bold text in place of actual headings for example.

I'd really like to reformat the gamemode pages at some point to address that.

Accessibility is one of the reasons for that as well.

[ionic heath]

let's hope my silly template renaming didn't break everything

[steel helm]

damage falloff distance for "dual pistols" (.50 Akimbo?) is approximately 47.5m

[minor finch]

Happy holidays we now have Page Forms! I've set up a form to add and edit cosmetics. It's easier and more intuitive to use than our previous makeshift solution.

Button here: https://www.thefinals.wiki/wiki/User:Raid/AddCosmeticTemp (going to style these nicely at some point)

There are still improvements to make, and I'll look at having variations with some attributes pre-filled to save time. (like when adding lots of BP items)

[heady marsh]

(insert lebron james clutch shot)

[ionic heath]

yeah i didn't upload them because no idea what the names are and i don't want to bother with renaming cosmetic pages later

there should be 1 more item tho

there's also a gap for season 5 event rewards for some reason
and the worst part i didn't play back then so i don't have the items

[polar flicker]

I should have all of them.

[ionic heath]

i'm gonna ospuze it if you can share icons and descriptions 🥺
if you remember what they were ofc

these events are missing
dk if all of them had rewards but i assume most of them did

[polar flicker]

Glad me getting literally all of the event items has payed off properly

[ionic heath]

i can look for what they were if you need a reminder

[polar flicker]

I just need a reminder for the TDM ones.

Also gonna need to learn the new image thingo

Bruh the event rewards filter is broken

[polar flicker]

Sadly i wasn't there for og snowball blitz though so i can't provide you with those images

[ionic heath]

i can't really tell if there were no rewards for it or literally nobody even cared to mention them ever even the devs 🤔
let's assume it had no rewards for now

[ionic heath]

oh well
we'll find another victim some day

[polar flicker]

lmao

[polar flicker]

I don't have any of the items in the image so yeah i'd say there might've been none

I'm also trying to scroll up fucking centuries ago to try and find how tf I'm supposed to use the new image template thingo

[ionic heath]

sec

just press the button and it will open the forms for it :3
https://www.thefinals.wiki/wiki/User:Raid/AddCosmeticTemp

[polar flicker]

Also i can upload all of the outfit pieces if you want since i see most of the events don't have all of the induvidual pieces or would that just make it too crowded

[ionic heath]

you can upload pieces
there's actually a thing for it

[polar flicker]

wow this looks easy.

[ionic heath]

because of that it's possible to hide them

[polar flicker]

This is suuuper long though. It would be nice if you can collapse some of the categories

[ionic heath]

you gotta make outfit first tho

[ionic heath]

yeah it's not finished yet
most of the stuff is not rly nessesary

[polar flicker]

With uploading multiple images at once do i need to change the actual file name or can i change the name of the image later?

[polar flicker]

@ionic heath

[ionic heath]

file name first
you can change it later but it's a hustle

[polar flicker]

alr that's gonna be a pain

[ionic heath]

yeah it takes awhile x3

[polar flicker]

Especially with having to click "show more options" in windows 11

[ionic heath]

click the file -> f2

[polar flicker]

I hope you get the golden ospuze ticket

[polar flicker]

Alr doing the valentines ones rn

Season 5 music giving me so much nostalgia rn

Erm... @ionic heath Where upload button

[ionic heath]

they're already uploaded

[polar flicker]

Ohhhh

What's the description for then?

[ionic heath]

you fill it before dropping the files in x3

[polar flicker]

Ahh

[ionic heath]

i'll mark the screenshots you uploaded before that for deletion bc they're duplicates

[polar flicker]

Yeah lol.

Every time without fail i fuck up the image name when making the cosmetic card

[ionic heath]

consistency beats perfection or something like that

[polar flicker]

When i make the names it's all consistent but i'm always forgetting capitalization or the .png or some other bullshit

[heady marsh]

i tried to find them one time but failed

[ionic heath]

well our beloved trentila ceo has everything but snowball blitz

[heady marsh]

we only missing the names of the stage 2 snowball blitz right?

[polar flicker]

Thank you. btw i think you signed with us last season, yeah?

[polar flicker]

If we are i've got all of them too

[heady marsh]

i already uploaded the icons, so you can names them

[ionic heath]

for current season yes
for season 5 no

[polar flicker]

Sweet

[heady marsh]

oh ok, i can check wait

give me 5 min

[polar flicker]

Gasp. I have finally not fucked up an image name!

[heady marsh]

i sometimes mess up the .png.png ahahah

[polar flicker]

lol i did that the first time i made an image

Okay that's all of the outfit pieces for valentines. time for the actual items @ionic heath

[heady marsh]

i found these with the s5 filter

[polar flicker]

I forgor the hair

[ionic heath]

next time write without underscores
just wheeloflove
you can keep it like that and make the rest of the valentine's stuff like this just a heads up for the future

[heady marsh]

they should be all

[polar flicker]

Oh okay. Good job i only remembered to do that for the first 3 or 4 pieces lol

[heady marsh]

.

[ionic heath]

:0
on now we need these icons

[heady marsh]

no problem

[polar flicker]

They're right there, are you stupid?

(/s)

[heady marsh]

oh really

[polar flicker]

Anyone know the image name for sounds?

[heady marsh]

https://www.thefinals.wiki/wiki/File:BP_SOUNDS.png

[polar flicker]

[ionic heath]

BP_SOUNDS.png
BP_ANIMATION.png
BP_GESTURE.png

[heady marsh]

"chad emoji"

[ionic heath]

ngl BP_ prefix doesn't make sense anymore but at this point it's whatever

[polar flicker]

Yeah lol

[heady marsh]

I mean, if you want you can rename them and i will take care of changing them on all pages that have that

[ionic heath]

there's no need to change it
redirect should work just fine

[heady marsh]

okk

[ionic heath]

no i mean i will rename it but don't change it for pages that already exist xD

[minor finch]

Filename consistency is nice but it's not as important as it used to be, because we no longer need to manually write them in any situation other than adding the cosmetic to the database.

[heady marsh]

yeah yeah

[minor finch]

btw you only need to write the number here, it's an integer attribute

[polar flicker]

Noted

Trying my best to be thorough (Ignore the fact that i forgot to mention they're wheel of love items for most of the stuff i just added)

[ionic heath]

BP_SOUNDS.png -> SOUND.png
BP_ANIMATION.png -> ANIMATION.png
BP_GESTURE.png -> GESTURE.png

[heady marsh]

good

do you guy need icons for anything else? or we have it all

[polar flicker]

Alr that's all of the valentines images uploaded I'll make cards for them tomorrow. @ionic heath

[ionic heath]

i can make cards a bit later and you can just fill out the descriptions whenever you want

[polar flicker]

that'd be amazing.

Alr well i'm gonna go to sleep. Cya!

[ionic heath]

[heady marsh]

gn

sometimes i forgot it's night for them

[ionic heath]

so apparently we had some wheel of love icons but they were on the style page as store items

[heady marsh]

can you delete the duplicates or you don't have permission?

[ionic heath]

i don't have perms i can mark stuff for deletion
not a big deal just weird how there's only half of the stuff
or maybe my search is messed up idk

[heady marsh]

yeah we should start to categorize files too

[ionic heath]

@polar flicker turned out half of the stuff was already on wiki
but it was marked as store items

your icons still helped to find them and you fetched at least half of the missing ones

i made a table with the items so you can edit the descriptions easier (by clicking item names)
https://www.thefinals.wiki/wiki/User:1z1Fr4g/TemplateTest

[ionic heath]

well at least we know the names

[heady marsh]

she said that the 3 missing pngs were already uploaded, is that true?

[ionic heath]

no i think she said she doesn't have them

[heady marsh]

.

[ionic heath]

it was sarcasm

[minor finch]

I can do those S5 ones

[heady marsh]

oh

ill send them, let me start the game up

[polar flicker]

Ripperoo

[polar flicker]

Alr I'll do bunny bashed tomorrow and then I'll do the individual outfit parts for all of the newer stuff that doesn't have it

Now it's properly time for bed since it's midnight

[polar flicker]

I have awoken!

[heady marsh]

you have awoken and for me it's time to sleep hahaha

it's 1 am here

[polar flicker]

lol

[polar flicker]

@ionic heath I have finished all of the descriptions, thanks again for uploading the images and names for me! I'll now be starting the bunny bashed items

[polar flicker]

Okay just did all of the bunny bash stuff.

[ionic heath]

legend

[polar flicker]

If you need any other free event stuff from season 5 onwards lmk. I have all of it

Lol the TDM image is just the Terminal attack image

[ionic heath]

i think i was the one who started uploading things after bunny bash so everything else should be on the wiki already

[ionic heath]

yep xD
i wanted to take a look if there's any tdm images but i forgor

[polar flicker]

Treat hunt is also missing the Halloween badge

[ionic heath]

well it's on the wiki but it's on the badges page
i'll add it to rewards list when i'll get to the treat hunt 🤔

[polar flicker]

Also do you want me to get you all of the outfit parts?

[polar flicker]

???

The image isn't working even though i got the right name

[ionic heath]

Grindline

[polar flicker]

Bruh

[ionic heath]

fixed it :P

[ionic heath]

ok now i can rest in peace knowing that new event cards will not be crazy misaligned like the old ones

[polar flicker]

Just did all of the trentila racing stuff I'll figure out how actually add it to the page later

[polar flicker]

How misaligned were the old ones?

[ionic heath]

well old look (mostly) fine on pc
but on small screens they were breaking like crazy because everything is shoved under the header

[polar flicker]

oof

[ionic heath]

• image doesn't fit
• duration is placed hell knows where
• wide enough image also does whatever is happening on the 3rd screenshot

i will slowly be replacing old cards with new ones when event cosmetics are added to cargo table

[ionic heath]

@polar flicker you don't have to add this line to individual items
it's for bundles / store items that are gonna be displayed here

[polar flicker]

Ohh okay

[polar flicker]

Gasp! Why aren't we on the theme(s) section!

[ionic heath]

good question
maybe i forgor when i was creating the page

[polar flicker]

Are you going to change it or can i?

[ionic heath]

already did

[polar flicker]

ty

[heady marsh]

The wiki is trying to secretly cut you out mrs

[pulsar void]

does anyone know how weapon xp works and how i can get more?

[heady marsh]

almost if not every weapon has 50xp per kill

[pulsar void]

how does it work for gadgets

[heady marsh]

gadgets are more of a use type xp, someones reward you for placing/interacting with them, an example is the gateaway wich has 25xp per contestant that teleports in, so 2 contestant that teleports is 50xp (only teammates I suppose tho)

you can read all here https://www.thefinals.wiki/wiki/Gadgets, they are listed at the bottom of every gadget or weapon page under the item mastery section

[pulsar void]

thanks!

[heady marsh]

[ionic heath]

I got side-tracked again but now we have this
There're many missing and some are ,png but hopefully we can figure that out in if the need for them ever pops up
https://www.thefinals.wiki/wiki/Template:Icon

[polar flicker]

@ionic heath Huh? how was trentila a guest sponsor in season 8 and when were we ever mentioned in season 6?

[ionic heath]

if this is my edit i probably was high or something

[polar flicker]

lmao alright i'll change it back

[ionic heath]

you probably can just undo it

[heady marsh]

season 5 was the first time they appeard

[ionic heath]

yeah i think i was thinking it's ospuze page or something
it was 4 am for me

[heady marsh]

lol

[polar flicker]

lmao.

[heady marsh]

Hi guys, i have all the legendary missing images for the style upper body cosmetics, should i upload them all or not

also, could the snowball icon be usefull?

[ionic heath]

listen my brain power goes to something like new templates instead smh mh

[heady marsh]

hahahaha

[ionic heath]

if these are screenshots i think the $$$ ones can be taken without the price tag if you preview the bundle

[polar flicker]

lol

[heady marsh]

king, gonna do

done, the other ones stay with the multibuck tag unfortunately

@ionic heath st icon is not missing btw https://www.thefinals.wiki/wiki/Template:STsIcon

[ionic heath]

oh :v
i was searching STIcon and it was STsIcon

[ionic heath]

one of them is angry now for no reason

[heady marsh]

lool

[sleek solstice]

the evil multibuck:

[ionic heath]

i should add green so we can have a vegan multibuck

[sleek solstice]

so many flavours

[heady marsh]

flavored multibucks

[polar flicker]

You get angry MB when you make a stupid purchase, sad when you're low on MB, and vegan when you get a trentila item from the store!

[maiden mauve]

https://tenor.com/view/domer-simpsons-bart-baby-bart-cartoon-gif-1166014673610393421

[polar flicker]

Should we add ER8 as a brand?

[shrewd moon]

tiger juice logo colors are slightly wrong please fix
(mostly joking)

[twin orchid]

yes

[eager sandal]

https://tenor.com/view/the-finals-cashout-crashout-kumo-kumonademuncher-gif-2297107828514978009

[wanton zephyr]

Who how do you guys edit and correct stuff on the wiki because there is lot of wrong info about the spear

Like this is just wrong

[polar flicker]

Just make an account

[wanton zephyr]

In the wiki?

[polar flicker]

Yup

[polar flicker]

Just click the bottom left, make an account and edit away!

[stable trellis]

[sharp quarry]

So you know how sword dash + lunge was on the wiki, despite it not being an intentional feature, a "tech" as embark described it, could I put spear spin cancel on the wiki, since I keep seeing a lot of misinformation being spread about the spin and I hope this could correct that

[lone monolith]

Yeah you can do that.

[sharp quarry]

Aight

[shrewd moon]

do you guys need any of the beta images for the legacy section of gun skins

[minor finch]

potentially maybe, not sure

[polar flicker]

We need anything from snowball week 2?

[polar flicker]

@ionic heathDid you want me to upload icons for all of the outfit parts for Wheel Of Trust, Super Bashed Balls, Blast off, Teaming Rush (Ghoul Rush), and hell or else?

[ionic heath]

i think the only outfit i am missing is from cashball
the rest of the stuff i uploaded

[polar flicker]

Alright i'll get on that soon

[polar flicker]

@heady marsh Did you end up finding out what the lvl 13 exp number is?

[heady marsh]

Still not

[polar flicker]

i might start running pyro then since i've been playing a little bit

I've learned that you can pyro people that've been defibbed but aren't up and shooting yet

[heady marsh]

I play it a lot but still didn't reach it yet

[heady marsh]

Yeah, and they take DMG as they respawn

[polar flicker]

that's.... fire

[minor finch]

duplicate detection actually served its purpose lets go

[ionic heath]

and yet... 😔

[minor finch]

which bp?

[minor finch]

oh S8, we both uploaded it but with different descriptions

[frigid stone]

what happened to all of Engimo's cosmetics using the new setup?

I'm not seeing any history of them being made either

I'm only seeing the history of the images for them being created back when I was doing all of them

[polar flicker]

I ate them

[heady marsh]

sponsor rivarly wiki edition

[polar flicker]

Nah bro me and Ichikawa are tight.

[heady marsh]

who's the culprit then haha

[polar flicker]

My hungry belly

[heady marsh]

damn, you need to pay for the damages now

[polar flicker]

Only money i'm spending is the tip

[minor finch]

as far as I can tell they were never added to the database

[ionic heath]

yeah i noticed that they're completely not there when i was making cards for badges
i was gonna add them, that's why i added it to the tabber on sponsorship page, but then i got sidetracked

[ionic heath]

i either cooked a banger or i overcooked and it's ass
https://www.thefinals.wiki/wiki/User:1z1Fr4g/TemplateTest

[polar flicker]

It's fire

[minor finch]

It looks nice, but the name column is for the name, I don't think we should mix columns as it defeats the integrity of the table. Personally I would keep source in its own column, but if that doesn't work out I'd say underneath the icon is the next best option, like a CosmeticCard.

[ionic heath]

yeah that's the exact reason i don't like it

[polar flicker]

How should i add the lore from the 3 frogs video to ospuze, Dissun and vaiiya's bibles?

[heady marsh]

bibles?

[polar flicker]

I thought it was clear that I call the wiki pages for sponsors their bibles lol

[heady marsh]

i didn't knew lol

[polar flicker]

Fair enough

[agile tusk]

Which sponsoring company has the highest stock price?

Alfa Acta is at the very least an arms manufacturer

I'm pretty sure Ivada does something?

Holtow is the Bob Parr boss from the Incredibles

Iseult is designer fashion

As a power company, Dissun must be huge

I'd be inclined to say that Alfa Acta and Dissun are two companies that are in the top rank

But I would also assume companies like Vaiiya to be a top contender as well

[polar flicker]

Someone cooking up a theory in the lore channel? Fucking mythical, keep going

[agile tusk]

But the question comes when considering which of these companies are privatized and which are public?

Although some might think that a company like Alfa Acta would be a privatized military supplier, its origins as a home security startup may imply it is indeed a public company. On top of that, real-world companies like Lockheed Martin are publicly traded

I'd maybe guess Vaiiya is private because of the whole AI overlord thing

[lone monolith]

HOLTOW, ISEUL-T, and ENGIMO are all owned by MultiCo so they're out of the running

[agile tusk]

But my guess is as valid as anyones

[agile tusk]

Oh dang, we got new information

[lone monolith]

I don't think that's new, I forget where it came from though.

[agile tusk]

With that being the case, Multi-Co being the owner of the finals and an umbrella corporation means that they must have sume serious investments of their own

[agile tusk]

Oh, I meant new to me. I was not previously aware

[lone monolith]

If I had to take a guess though it's probably VAIIYA

[agile tusk]

Based off of our real world market, I would also assume a company with dealings in tech and ai would probably be the biggest

I am certain that MultiCo as a conglomerate with dealings in media and insurance would be extremely expensive

If we knew what Ivada actually does it might have big potential

Like if they were the manufacturer for most of the equipment and hardware seen in the Finals or the main manufacturer of goods in general for other companies that would make them really big

But I don't know

I might have to agree that Vaiiya is the most expensive, followed by MultiCo, Dissun, and Alfa Acta. But really, we all know the truth, Orf is the biggest company. We all know how successful companies with marketable plush characters can be. Just look at companies like Sanrio, SanX, and even the Pokemon Company

The FANS, they simply can not resIST the marketable plush

The guys who make this game are good at coming up with fake companies. Seems like lots of talent who worked on Mirror's Edge carried over from Dice

Also I just realized I didn't type any of this in the Lore channel

[karmic spoke]

thermal bore seem to do 0.025x enviro damage as xp

i melee'd a wall chunk 40 times, 1600hp, then blew it up with thermal bore and got 170 xp total, 50xp from use and 4800x0.025 = 120

blew up what looked like 3 chunks

seems algined with thermal bore's 2.5x xp per damage on players, i tried to test thermal bore but i forgot to put it in my reserves so i couldn't see how mcuh it did lol

arrow speed seems to be 65m/s for undrawn and 135m/s drawn, that's correct if a strafing medium travels at 3.5m/s

I measued the arrow projectile to be about 18.5 cm wide, 9.25cm per half/each side of xhair, the tk's I measued at 13cm wide

I have less faith in my tk's measurement

#light-build-main message

this is my methodology and documentation of the hitbox reserach

I counted frames for the drawn speed, and I then calculated the lead distance for undrawn assuming the speed is the same as tk's primary fire and it worked

so my judgment of 65m/s for undrawn should probably be verified

but it's for sure around that

bow's splits are 580ms reload/quiver speed, 80ms pre-draw (animation that happens when you click mouse, after which the undrawn arrow is released) 490ms draw time

before it was 610, 150, 490

580>610 is the rpm reffered to in patch notes, that should be clarified, it's not rpm, it's the re-arrow speed

the actual rpm must consider the mandatory draw animation of 80ms

undrawn rpm is now 90, drawn rpm is now 52

if you want me to make a list of optimal ttks and ttks accounting for not having predraw, @me and I will

empty reload should probably say 0.58 (with 0.08 minimum draw

do you guys know the movement speeds for the classes/stances?

anyway I need to sleep let me know if there's anything bow related or related to anything I said that you would like clarified

[karmic spoke]

I'm not 100% sure that the rpm change was the bow quiver speed but it's the only thing that makes sense

600/150 (.75 reload) and 490 charge would've been 1.24 full draw rpm, not 1.25

I'm pretty sure it was 610/150/490, giving .76 reload and 1.25 total

610 would correspond with the rpm number they stated, 98 I think?

And 580 would correspond to the number they stated, and combined with the 70ms reduction in draw, reduce by 100ms total

Rather than the suspiciously arbitrary seeming 70ms

I haven't tested the new fire rate/total draw time though so I'm not certain it's 1.15s I'll try to test tomorrow

But I think it makes more sense that they changed the reload from .76 to .66 rather than changing it from .75 to .68

[heady marsh]

Should we make the Builds page sections with tabber (will require changing all the links that points to it)

[minor finch]

I don't think so

[heady marsh]

ok

[minor finch]

Tabbers are primarily for categorizing content (if needed), but the Builds themselves are the content of the Builds page, which is why I don't think we should turn them into tabbers, or be too eager to turn other content into tabbers in general, unless it really makes sense to save space.

[waxen sinew]

I keep seeing that all the sponsor companies are all subsidiaries of multico or multico owns them or something like that.

I do think it's interesting to note that all the sponsors seemingly compete in different industries so they don't interfere with each other, but also seem to all be monopolies, or competitor industries are just simply not mentioned at all in the game.

You would assume cns might mention companies "outside" of multico but they don't at all so I assume that its genuinely all monopolies

[karmic spoke]

Ok so I'm doing some pyro nade testing

the pyro nade ticks for 5hp 4 times per second, a total of 20 dps on the fire itself

the burn (which applies also while standing in the fire) ticks for 5/5/5/6 damage 3 times per second

35.75 dps total

The after burn ticks for 6 ticks after leaving fire

the yellow is what would've been my next pyro nade tick, if I didnt leave the fire

Now, it's possible that the bold burn tick above it is afterburn, but I don't think so considering it was so close to an actual nade tick and I probably wasn't quite out of the fire yet

the right side is just the pyro nade ticks, the bold is just the burn ticks

[karmic spoke]

the afterburn damage/duration agrees with the cerberus too

[deft burrow]

um we need to change this

[ionic heath]

there's a bunch of outdated tips in general

[ionic heath]

i need group brain storming g

i don't like "unobtainable " in regards to something that WILL BE unobtainable. that it implies that for e.g. ultimate bp items from current season are already unobtainable

i can make so these items can change what they say each season so these temporary available items will change to "unobtainable" when they really become unobtainable

they can't be named "limited" because this niche is already taken by event/twitch drop/etc. rewards but maybe some other word that is similar in meaning to "pro tempore" could fit, but also wouldn't be very long

ideas my smooth brain got so far (in order how fitting they are imo):

• Seasonal
• Pro tem
• Temporary

[minor finch]

I agree Unobtainable shouldn't be the text on current season items. Maybe "S9 ONLY"? hard to think of any more

maybe we could do "S[number] ONLY" for all UBP items actually.. idk

[ionic heath]

have a feeling like "S[] ONLY" might be redundant because season is already mentioned in the plaque above

[lament grail]

I think "Season Exclusive" would probably get the point across well, albeit being a bit wordy for a little plaque

[minor finch]

I was getting some opinions yesterday and I think we should go with an approach like this. Plaques are limited to one row, so all cards are consistent and extra plaques don't create misalignment. For special attributes like 'Limited Time', 'Unobtainable', 'Unreleased', and 'Removed', instead of an extra plaque, we use a small icon in the top left. Hovering over the icon shows brief explanatory text, which we don't have a character limit on.

Overall, this is my favored solution. Thoughts?

For reference and comparison this is the extra plaque approach ↓

The icon slightly obstructs the cosmetic image, which imo is the only downside, but still worth it I think.

Users can still see the full icons unobstructed just by clicking on them of course.

[cinder island]

thought id mention this but i belive theres a mistake with the ranked rewards for cb 1 and 2 on the wiki cant say anything over bronze but i only ever played in closed beta 2 and i have the closed beta cap that here it says is from closed beta 1 but i dont have that ak skin so i think this is atleast partially wrong

[supple cypress]

Get rid of the crutch goo grenade.

[heavy gale]

Does the cap you have say closed beta contestant on it ?

[cinder island]

yep its called closed beta cap

[heavy gale]

It's 100% cb1 hat else it would say like CB2 not just CB

[cinder island]

well i only played in cb2 i can do some dubble checking but either somethigns wrong or it was closed beta 1 i played in but i dont belive its true because i was following it closely after i had dinner with the dev (context met a dev att an airport he told me and my dad about the game then we went home to sweden and had him over for dinner next day 4 beta keys but this was in summer)

[heavy gale]

In regards to the AK

[cinder island]

i just checked and yeah i had the dev over during march 18th and did play closed beta but wierd thing im missing the carrer rewards and the battle pass rewards from closed beta 1 and i think i played closed beta 2 (and open beta but didint unlock everything because of the false ban stuff)

[heavy gale]

If you're missing rewards that you're sure you should have, would be worth contacting player support so they can have a look.

[cinder island]

yeah thats what im doing because now im worred that iv lost a bunch of stuff i shouldv had

[minor finch]

why does the same outfit have two different names and descriptions

I'm guessing it's because the BP "outfit" is actually a bundle that includes the Odilia face. The real outfit does not.

[minor finch]

The red ballerina was added in S7... and retroactively part of the S1 battle pass... but if I make Season=7 it will show up in the S7 BP, and if I put Season=1 that's just wrong.

[polar flicker]

Well shit

[minor finch]

Added these buttons to bundle and outfit pages that auto-fill bundle and outfit IDs

bundle ID is also auto-filled for outfit items within a bundle

[ionic heath]

and i added these buttons

[cinder island]

i mean you could try doing a category called additional battle pass items

[ionic heath]

what

[heavy gale]

Can you try again

[karmic spoke]

Windup on the charge and slam is 450ms

[minor finch]

New info display on cosmetic pages

With tabbers for various things

Designed to be more approachable and friendly

Mobile appearance

[shrewd moon]

anyone need the images from the "rules" part when right clicking on a gamemode? i have them in hd

[ionic heath]

if that includes game show event icons I'm intrested

[shrewd moon]

example?

[shrewd moon]

oh yeah i have those

[ionic heath]

🙏
🥺

[karmic spoke]

can someone update the wiki with my reserach stuff? I don't wnat to make an account or leak my ip

[heady marsh]

what is

[karmic spoke]

Windup on charge and slam is 450ms

#📂┇the-finals-wiki message

pyro nade damage reserch

[heady marsh]

you want me to put it in the infobox or just page

[karmic spoke]

I don't really know the style guide, so where you think fits

#📂┇the-finals-wiki message

this is the thermal bore experience gain

and below is details on the bow

Im pretty sure the bow full draw speed is 138m/s since that's whatthe TKs were first buffed to when they recieved initial changes

[heady marsh]

ok, ill do it tomorrow if i have time

[karmic spoke]

thank you

I'll do an excel with the bow's precise draw breakpoints too

[minor finch]

I broke #cargo_store but don't know why it's not working

Theoretically {{Cosmetic}} should just outsource cargo_store to {{CosmeticPage}}, like cosmetic pages already outsource it to {{Cosmetic}}

Confusing naming there

Undone and will work on it tomorrow, but if it does work, it should solve the problem of cosmetic details not appearing immediately.

[minor finch]

Nevermind I fixed it. The new details display now shows up without needing to purge cache first.

[karmic spoke]

@heady marsh this is my finsihed (almost complete but fuck me im tired) chart of bow ttks

[karmic spoke]

oh no i found another error

ok I'm 99% sure this is correct

[karmic spoke]

this time for real

yeah I changed the constants for predraw and reload and all the numbers looked good still so i'm 99% sure this is actually correct

[karmic spoke]

TTK from an undrawn bow, drawnheadshot->minimum bodyshot should be 0.38625

[cinder island]

regarding the arena royale akm skin both the black and red after the event rougly 50 of them where sold on elgigantens own website since they where sold through elgiganten att the event due to lack of permisions and iirc you can still buy some of the other pulsar items from them

[karmic spoke]

Evasive dash, FOV change/start frame: 3.185
charge greys out: 3.275
charge used: 3.285
dash ends: 3.585

I think?

please check

dash end is pretty hard to tell

bow travel time: 4.65s release

5.05s impact

55m distance, .4s travel time, 137.5m/s

agrees with all my other testing, and the tk's old speed was 138

i think the actaul ingame speed is 138m/s

Undrawn -> soft arrow, 1.3 to 1.3833, needs higher framerate testing but it appears to be 80ms as stated in patch notes

second shot is 2.1166. probaly me click slow?

impact at 2.4333

wait that can't be right

that's first arrow impaact at 2.4333

52m/s? lets see the other arrows

third shot 2.7833, 666ms, that agrees with my expectation based on patch notes of 590ms + 80ms

2nd hit at 3.1666

I need to record at higher fps and longer distance for accuracy

oh wait

I'm doing a curved trajectory becasue it's so far

i need to record closer

1.526667

1.906667

20 meters

53m/s

wao that's crazy slow

that agrees with my other testing

I think the hitmarkers are good testing point, becuse they don't seem to affect the measurements regardless of distance, which I would expect if they were delayed by ping?

13 frames lag between firing and hitmarker on v9s

ah but the server can probably predict the arrow? so maybe no lag on projectiles?

90ms delay between shot and hitmarker? that seems crazy long

alirght lets estimate speed with 90ms less time

86ms* to be precise

68m/s for undrawn bow, that does match with my previous estimates

175m/s for the drawn bow , that's way faster

testing at 84m

measuers at 0.68s for 84m, that's 141m/s if hitmarkers are laggy, and 123m/s if not

2.325 sent
2.35 visual impact
2.42 hitmarker

4.195 sent
4.22 visual impact
4.32 hitmarker

so 25ms between arrow and impact on screen
and 95 - 125ms between hitmarker

that's a lot of variance on the hitmarker timing which is not good lol

but the hitmarker readings make alot more sense and agree better with the other measurements I've taken, even accounting for ping

a travel time of 25ms for a 6m target would be 240m/s

wait none of these numbers make sense

let me try shooting a wall since it doesn't have variable depth, I htink that might ruining the test

ok so the wall visual effect is instant on hitscan weapons, so assuming that the wall client simulated projectile speed is correct, these numbers should be fairly accurate

drawn

030
055

280
300

240-300m/s

1. this is really high
2. at this range, and the speed of the bow, measurement error is too big of a problem, I don't have enough fpses. Let me try again at 15 meters

undrawn

120
195

035
110

80m/s

430
495? orange flash
500, wall fx

830
900 flash+wallfx

215m/s

575
645

is the air drag on the bow just really high?

340
815

72m

151m/s

tdr, yes at a minimm, the bow has way bad drag

[karmic spoke]

extrapolating from 214 @15m and 151@72, I get 224@6 which is within measurement error

so initial velocity is 230m/s

[karmic spoke]

84 meters is 136m/s according to my current stats

oh wait 151 is the average velocity

[karmic spoke]

thisis roughly what I think the initial and acceleation are

measuing at 112m

2.450 3,385

so there's no way the acceleartion is linear

230/-330m/s/s works for 15-72meters

-233m/s works for 112m

-310 works for 84 meters

wait I'm calculating this wrong I feel like

no I'm calcuating it right but it's some kinda non-linear acceleation, which is kinda to be expected for drag

-330m/s/s does seem to be correct for most of the arrows flight, on a vibes based level

[polar flicker]

hmm... There's a small part of me that's starting to think you might be a bow main...

[karmic spoke]

hahahah

I don't have enouhg fps from my computer to test velcoity accurately enouhg tbh

or enough patience to test drawn bow at a bunchof rangeds

[polar flicker]

Can always just upscale the fuck out of it to find the balance between the reso being high enough to be accurate and the fps being as high as possible

[karmic spoke]

cpu limit

I was already at 50% reso scale no aa lmao , it's all cpu limit even with obs using gpu for encode

probably need like, 400fps for accurate testing at lesat at close range

[polar flicker]

Even with a balanced system that prolly goes for most people in the finals because of how cpu dependent it is

[karmic spoke]

yeah for sure, and my system isn't balancd lol, 5800x and 5700xt

I really need a new gpu but I don't care about pretty pixels so it's hard to convince myself to buy one

[polar flicker]

Nah i'd say that's fairly balenced. You want to be slightly gpu bottle necked. As much as i wouldn't call that slightly your system's fine

[karmic spoke]

hahaha

I don't mind playing on all low so it's not too bad. The main isue is I can't keep up 100% render scale no AA, and using low render scale no AA looks really bad

and I don't like modern AA, give me SSAA/MSAA or nothing

[polar flicker]

I pretty much always google youtube videos or look up steam guides for optimized graphics settings and set my upscaling to quality or balenced. It's free fps for me and i can hardly tell the difference. Especially with quality upscaling

God i wish we could swap cpu's though. I've got a 5600x and a 5800x would be perfect for my 9060xt

[karmic spoke]

I mean, I really hate when the image looks at all blurry, even slightly

[polar flicker]

Yeah that can get annoying, that's why i never go below balanced upscaling. I really wish Ngreedia had half decent pricing though. That DLSS 4.5 looks so yummy. Here's hoping AMD will step up their game and maybe even make FSR 4 available on older gpu's

[karmic spoke]

eehh even fsr3 has a pretty bad perf hit on my gpu, fsr 4is probably awful

and even hgih quality looks a lil blurry to me, I've heard dlss is beter though

[polar flicker]

Well i've been enjoying it, as pathetic as it is that fsr 4's only about as good as dlss 2

[karmic spoke]

lol

[minor finch]

Rudimentary cosmetics search is available at https://thefinals.wiki/wiki/Special:RunQuery/SearchCosmetics. Will add a public button for it when ready.

Good for checking if something specific has been added or not.

[polar flicker]

I must get on to getting all of the trentila cosmetics in the new format at some point. It's my own company's bible after all

[cinder island]

Thought I should add this the tgm merch skins are mentioned on the page for merch items but not on the weapons (also later I can get you guys the rarity of the black tgm mouse ak skin together with descriptions if you need it)

[eager sandal]

When is someone fixing the ranked rewards on the wiki?

[ionic heath]

we have database system for that now

tgm skins are already in there (except for team bundles)

but not all the weapons use it atm becase some items barely got any skins added

I'm slowly changing pages to use it, with weapons that have most skins on the page, being the last

if you have wiki account you can edit rarity and description of the ak skin in the database yourself

[ionic heath]

[cinder island]

yeah but when i checked the rarity was blank (i dont have an account)

[ionic heath]

yeah cause we had no idea what rarity it was when we added it
it's probably epic but we just left it blank instead of guessing

if you can share rarity and description i can fill it out a bit later

[cinder island]

sure gimme a sec to boot it

[cinder island]

most likely epic (tho if it is im mad cus bro 1 of 300 )

[cinder island]

alright here it is

so yeah epic (bruh 1 of 300 are we fr)

[ionic heath]

legend

[polar flicker]

Should be mythic like all of the other exclusive skins from that event

[cinder island]

huh the rest arent mythic

frag is epic sword is epic

(didnt get the glass mousepad but the code was wrong with the mouse so they fixed it and said keep it)

[polar flicker]

I'm saying they should be mythic as in they shouldn't of made it epic not as in that the other ones already are mythic

[cinder island]

oh yeah i totatly agree but it doesnt really have mythic properties (actually its worse cus the sticker placement is very bugged) but i dont think the twitch drops should but i wish the fcar xp and m60 and the rest of the merch skins where at least animated

heres the bugged stocker placements

[polar flicker]

Oh yeah defo not the twitch drops but yeah merch skins like that being mythic would be cool just because it deserves to be

[polar flicker]

Looks like the same placement as the 1st anniversary skin

[cinder island]

yeah i mean the in person skins are 1 of 1000 the black one is 1 of 300 and idk about the rest of the merch ones since i think you can still get those so maybe like legendary?

[cinder island]

yeah it is (didnt know it was like that) im assuming its a bug

[polar flicker]

1 in 300 skin and it's bugged 💔

[cinder island]

[ionic heath]

added
should show up on all the pages (including akm one when migrated to use the database)

[cinder island]

big W i dont really help out much over with the wiki but i try when i can

[ionic heath]

on the topic:
anyone knows what rarity are those?

[cinder island]

i think i have them lemme check

[polar flicker]

Pretty sure they're Rare but I can- ig madness is already checking

[ionic heath]

huge W