📂┇the-finals-wiki

[shell mauve]

Also to avoid people from taking it all in as finalized and permanent?

[heavy gale]

there is a bit on the wiki that does say "The content of the wiki is subject to change as the game is not currently released, the current content is based off of the various playtests conducted throughout the last year."

[shell mauve]

I know, but shouldn’t it be one of the first things we see? 🙂

Anyway, food for thought!

[lone monolith]

It's been at the top since I rewrote it

[manic reef]

could always just make it more obvious somehow

[shell mauve]

I mean really on top top

And disclaimer above it to clarify it is information regarding everything below and beyond it

[shell mauve]

Sorry I didn’t see it.. it came up while I was working on something at work haha

But my point is still somewhat relevant, be it making me look a little less inventive haha

[lone monolith]

Considering the main point of the wiki is that it's a community effort, I feel like it's more important to establish what THE FINALS is, the goal of the wiki, and how to contribute, than to establish some of the content might be incorrect by release.

[vagrant compass]

How about just highlighting that paragraph in italics so that it stands out more?

Kind of like wikipedia does 'warning this page is a stub'

So the first paragraph would serve as more of a header, and the second one would be highlighted as separate but notable

[lone monolith]

It's already in Italics

[vagrant compass]

Feel free to ignore me, this is your effort and I think it looks perfect as is. But I do think making both of these paragraphs stand out more would be a good compromise and ensure no one misses a thing

(It may just be my flair for dramatics though)

[lone monolith]

Sooo in the meantime while we wait for the wiki peeps, we've introduced a stop-gap solution to your eyes being burnt out from the light mode.

[dusty quail]

oh my god

thanks so much for this

[sweet locust]

wtf

mah fkin eyes

[heavy gale]

it has some problems

but it's temporary until the wiki people do their thing

[dusty quail]

there are wiki people?

[sweet locust]

i call that more than a problem luke

its like a crime

[heavy gale]

it's better than a blinding white wiki

[sweet locust]

i might take the blinding white over this

ngl

[lone monolith]

Embark isn't hosting it themselves

[dusty quail]

Jag why are you here

[sweet locust]

cuz i work on the wiki

sometimes

[sweet locust]

its scuttlecrab

[lone monolith]

Oh

Fair

[sweet locust]

i might just change it to jag

[heavy gale]

happy now @sweet locust xD

[sweet locust]

no

[heavy gale]

what you mean no?

[dusty quail]

ignore him

forgot to remove this dropshadow

it definitely looks better without

[knotty rune]

The COTHH page looks better now in Dark mode

[sweet locust]

i mean no

0 happiness from that image

[manic reef]

jag shut

do something about it then

[sweet locust]

i think its negative happiness

[dusty quail]

that's brilliant

[dusty quail]

actual troll

[sweet locust]

killer fish stick from san diego

[lone monolith]

[sweet locust]

https://tenor.com/view/wooo-yeah-baby-gif-18955985

[dusty quail]

yessss

[lone monolith]

Thank Luke, he's goated with the CSS

🙏

[dusty quail]

The sniper page is taking FOREVER to update

[heavy gale]

the image?

[dusty quail]

yeah

it's updated but the image file's page shows the old image

[lone monolith]

Is it loaded now

[dusty quail]

but when you click on it the one that opens up is the updated one

[lone monolith]

You named the image sniper infobox not sniper_infobox so it wasn't showing up

[dusty quail]

https://www.thefinals.wiki/wiki/File:Sniper_Infobox.png

[lone monolith]

Yeah

[dusty quail]

look the embed shows the right image

[lone monolith]

It needed Sniper_Infobox, not Sniper Infobox

I added in the _ and it worked

[heavy gale]

the cache for the wiki is weird, if you upload an image and use the same syntax within the image even though it's the same image

it takes up to an hour to update

unless you edit the page

[sweet locust]

kyne just hit him with the 🤓

[dusty quail]

how do I refresh my browser again

[sweet locust]

f5

[heavy gale]

or ctrl + f5 a couple of times

[lone monolith]

btw I fixed all the redirects for the renamed weapons

So now it doesn't show redirected from Sawn Off when you click on the SH1900

[heavy gale]

[knotty rune]

@lone monolith not sure if it was on purpose, but the "...6 Embarkers on the 6th floor for 6 months..." is missing now

[dusty quail]

💀

streeeetch

[lone monolith]

I didn't feel like it fit with the intro now, but I have no clue where else to put it

Maybe the church of the holy hunters?

[dusty quail]

We'd need a page about the development of the game

right

[lone monolith]

I'm planning on moving it to a pre-release section along with the betas when the game comes out

[sweet locust]

i agree with kyne

[dusty quail]

a page talking about how the game was conceived, mentioning some of the devs, Embark's history, etc. and then about the development of THE FINALS as it went on

we'll have one eventually right

[heavy gale]

could just have a page for "Embark" which details all that

basically what fish said, yeah

[knotty rune]

Not sure it fits there either. I agree with fish, a dedicated page for the development of the game would be cool, and that info would fit there

[dusty quail]

thefinals.wiki/wiki/Embark_Studios

[sweet locust]

i see fish volunteered to write that gl 🫡

[dusty quail]

we can all chip in

we only need the page done by, like, whenever the game releases

which could be tomorrow to be fair

[sweet locust]

sorry i left my water running bye fish

[dusty quail]

that was me mb

[knotty rune]

@dusty quail if you want to write things on the wiki, you can catch up on the hunt section 😂

[dusty quail]

😭

even I don't understand half the things people theorise in that chat

they've covered all of norse mythology and all of greek and roman too

[knotty rune]

We just need the TL;DR of the tiers on the wiki

[dusty quail]

all of the primordial beginning-of-the-world stuff as well

[lone monolith]

I might be working on it rn

[heavy gale]

TL;DR: I still don't understand but it works

[dusty quail]

good luck!

Rockhound's vids have some good quotes

and so does the MTM

I remember my question was literally about how they conceived the idea for the virtual gameshow

@lone monolith can you tell me where I went wrong with the uploading before

[sweet locust]

u didnt add the _

[dusty quail]

what should I call it, and where do I call it that

[dusty quail]

in which part of the process tho, which page, the upload page, the image file page, or the Sniper page

[sweet locust]

all of the above

[lone monolith]

I think you renamed the image when you uploaded it from Sniper Infobox to Sniper_Infobox so the infobox wasn't working anymore

[lapis kindle]

mm juicy dark mode. kudos Luke

[lone monolith]

Luke is actually the final boss of the Wiki

I'm the content guy, he's the guy crying because the CSS keeps breaking

[sweet locust]

i just live here

[heavy gale]

Mama Mia, I never know edit mode actually allowed a visual view of the infobox properties, I just always edited the page source.

[sweet locust]

im sorry what

[lone monolith]

GUI guy vs backend guy

haha

[sweet locust]

idk if i should be disappointed in luke or not

[lapis kindle]

you shouldn't. that's a back-end type of thing

[heavy gale]

Also if anyone has any ideas of what else could be added to the weapons infobox

we can always add more properties

[sweet locust]

i dont think theirs anything else to add

[knotty rune]

reload time? 🤔

[sweet locust]

do we have that info

[knotty rune]

🤷🏻‍♂️

[heavy gale]

could be useful

[lapis kindle]

we have the animation videos, but you'd have to count the seconds for all of them

[lone monolith]

Alright so in the meantime before we have more things to group it up with

Meet the newest member of Game Elements

[grave owl]

Ooooo

[lone monolith]

And our youtube buddy has taken a hike up there and is now being filled in by telescope buddy

[heavy gale]

promoted from construction to telescope egg

[lone monolith]

We love to see progress for our Namas

@dusty quail https://www.thefinals.wiki/wiki/Pre-Release

[compact talon]

MAN I SAW THIS AND THOUGHT IT WAS NEW MAPS

[sour laurel]

aint gonna lie the black background is ugly on wiki

[lone monolith]

In the interest of not binding people

[sweet locust]

take that back

[knotty rune]

Red to match the colors of the game /j 😂

[lone monolith]

Oh no

[dusty quail]

YES

I'm sorry but that looks TOO cool

also

[manic reef]

lil stubby

[lone monolith]

Still working on the colors but here's what we got at the moment

[cobalt dust]

counter strike source?

[sour laurel]

Cascading Style Sheets 🤓

[signal remnant]

No way kyne WWW

[clear lily]

Any BAGUETTE 🥖 or CROISSANT 🥐 mele weapon leak?

[static light]

wiki is looking mighty fine today

[lone monolith]

I am doing some cooking

[heavy gale]

Kyne doing the cooking

[lone monolith]

@real stirrup https://www.thefinals.wiki/wiki/Playtests

I'm gonna merge it with the pre-release section here in a bit

[real stirrup]

coolio

[lone monolith]

I merged your playtest page into the pre-release page

[static light]

Very nice

[lone monolith]

@knotty rune The 6 Embarkers quote now has a rightful home again

[knotty rune]

Perfect! 💪🏻

[knotty rune]

I see you've been working on the EE pages as well, thanks! 💪🏻

[lone monolith]

I've been cooking a lot today

I redid the teaser trailer EEs

[sweet locust]

Can we make the text teal?

[heavy gale]

why?

[sweet locust]

I wanna see how it would look

I wanna see how the teal would look instead of orange

[heavy gale]

oh you're talking about the links

[sweet locust]

Yeah

I would do it but I A, don't know how to do it and B, don't even know if I can do it

[lone monolith]

I don't even know how to do it

Luke just sends me a 600 line file to put into the wiki

[shell mauve]

Haha maybe Luke should get co-admin role then

He is the back-end guy anyway

[quartz salmon]

Excuse me, guys, I was trying to reach out to someone on the chat, and nobody online could help. Does anyone know how well is this game optimized for multi-core/multi-threading? CPUs and Mobos are hella expensive where I live, and I was thinking about getting an upgrade to a Xeon E5 2690 V4.

[lone monolith]

https://www.thefinals.wiki/wiki/Smoke_Grenade

What do you guys think of this reworked page? I wanna make sure we emphasize gameplay interactions between gadgets and the environment considering how important Dynamism is to the game.

[dusty quail]

We definitely need this in the wiki

Even though there are a few gadgets which emit the same stuff, it can't hurt to have the same thing written on each of their pages

also the use cases might be different for each version of the gadget (mine, grenade, etc.)

[placid knot]

Glad to see a wiki come to life was wondering about gun stats

[shell mauve]

Great idea!

[dusty quail]

Oh by the way, random inquiry

Will it be tough to change the scrollbar into a custom one?

[dusty quail]

and would we have to wait until the 'reskin'

[heavy gale]

try now @dusty quail

[dusty quail]

Luke

where were you all this time

you legend

[static light]

forget waiting for the reskin, we can just make luke do it for us 😂

[vestal knot]

I been adding to that forever

[lone monolith]

It is appreciated

[vestal knot]

I have over 500 edits on there, My life has been corrupted 😢

[heavy gale]

huh ?

[sweet locust]

cap

no shot

[vestal knot]

I spent about 2 weeks just adding and writing details on it when the finals play test ended

I was obsessed, haven’t added to it for quite a while now

[sweet locust]

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

[vestal knot]

Hmmmmm yourself jag, I was sad the finals ended

That’s how I coped

[sweet locust]

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

seems a little sus if you ask me

[vestal knot]

Don’t believe it if you don’t want to but it’s true

[lone monolith]

What's your name on the wiki

[sweet locust]

ill believe it when you can tell me namatama's last name?

[vestal knot]

I used the guest account for a lot of my edits, I’ll have to get my google account name

[lone monolith]

We've had people editing the fandom wiki thinking it's ours

[vestal knot]

Not signed in on my phone and I’m at the gym rn lol

[vestal knot]

There’s 2 wikis?

[lone monolith]

Yes

[sweet locust]

ours is the official one

[lone monolith]

https://www.thefinals.wiki/wiki/Main_Page

This is the official one

[sweet locust]

but there is a fandom

which isnt us

[vestal knot]

I just have the link to whatever wiki was posted in here

Yea that one

I added this

In the comments on the main page

Not a lot of people add comments to pages, but they are like forums, very helpful

[sweet locust]

I was just kidding

I'm sorry I believe u

[vestal knot]

I know you do, I’m just too cool to lie

[sweet locust]

Well that's not true

[vestal knot]

I’m jsut too cool to lie mostly

[compact talon]

GRIND

[vestal knot]

shoulders and lower back >:)

[compact talon]

goat. today is push for me

[vestal knot]

W

[real stirrup]

@lone monolith hey, do you know where the original of this image is from? Or do you have a copy of it?

[lone monolith]

#1118247079647662212 message

[real stirrup]

Thanks!!

[lone monolith]

Np

[final token]

The ones posted on Twitter are higher quality!

https://twitter.com/reachthefinals/status/1669000104747970562?s=46&t=lsSOCiigKjfIP8h1kSXdAw

THE FINALS (@reachthefinals)

We're about to host the 1st episode of MEET THE MAKERS on Discord: a daily show during beta where we dive into different areas of THE FINALS. Today we're talking to level designer Midas and environment artist Joakim about locations, maps, and level design! https://t.co/BfMLKiOkDE

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Twitter · Jun 14, 2023, 3:13 PM

More pixels

[real stirrup]

Ah, thanks. I’ve already used the other one - they should be fine

[final token]

Not sure why the ones posted here were so low res

[manic reef]

Wut

[dusty quail]

compression, wrong version, idk

[heavy gale]

mediawiki has been updated to 1.39, one step closer to new skins wooo

mobile view is currently a bit borked but that's a future thing

[stiff dove]

[vagrant compass]

[heavy gale]

if you find anything that is completely screwed up due to the 1.39 upgrade, please tell us

[sweet locust]

https://tenor.com/view/cr1tikal-penguinz0-meme-woo-yeah-baby-gif-19316511

[quasi echo]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1009830578545246213/1124659464621010974/Moolahpet.gif

[shell mauve]

[shell mauve]

It looks so good!

is this the SC skin already?

this also looks real good!

[heavy gale]

there isn't a SC skin yet

[shell mauve]

Oh 😦

Well this still looks pretty darn good

[vagrant compass]

Do not be alarmed by the wiki being broken atm, it's being fought for valiantly

[dusty quail]

👀

IS THIS IT?

[heavy gale]

it is it

needs a lot of redesign though

[dusty quail]

YESS

[vagrant compass]

It seems unborked now!

[dusty quail]

I wanna help

[heavy gale]

btw if you press the cog wheel in the bottom left

you can change it to dark mode

[dusty quail]

can we change the default

[heavy gale]

I'll see to that next week

[dusty quail]

❤️ no rush

you're a legend, luke

yeah I reckon at some point we can aim for making it look visually distinct from the Star Citizen one

[heavy gale]

we can easily change the colours of the accent and background and text with like one variable which is neat

it's just the whole like main page will need redesiging to make it fit more as atm with the skin it's a bit clamped looking

we also need a logo for the wiki, maybe something like with "wiki" under it....I don't know, I suck at logo design

[dusty quail]

on it!

(just going to try something)

[shell mauve]

oh my 😄

this looks awesome

Its really just the colors isn't it

[dusty quail]

We can change stuff like the font too right?

(if we wanted to)

[shell mauve]

The fonts looks pretty good, so unless we can have Saira as an option

[heavy gale]

I tried Saira in the past, it doesn't look the best

[shell mauve]

I think the current fonts are looknig good

I think links should be yellow

and the rest is probably fine

[vagrant compass]

Noto Sans maybe

[shell mauve]

and probably fix this 😉

[vagrant compass]

I believe that's the official font for asian languages

[heavy gale]

that's why we need a logo

[shell mauve]

I can't wait when we move on to localization.. so I can write ATTEND YOUR ENGLISH CLASSES for the Dutch one

[dusty quail]

I made one

but I looked at it too long

now the word WIKI makes no sense to me

[shell mauve]

you made a logo? Kappa

[dusty quail]

I was literally gonna finish it off and post it

but I need to avoid looking at the word for 5 minutes

😭

[shell mauve]

isn't the logo in the media kit?

[dusty quail]

yep

just made WIKI in the THE FINALS text style

[shell mauve]

???

you need to show me because it sounds very over designed

boom done 😉

[heavy gale]

not white

[shell mauve]

just need a solution for the light mode

[heavy gale]

considering that theme also has a light mode

red will fit both

[shell mauve]

yeah yeah

BAN LIGHT MODE!

is it allowed through the style guide?

[heavy gale]

I mean we have

[shell mauve]

oh yeah

haha ffs

I am not an idiot..

I am not an idiot..

[lone monolith]

It's red on here specifically because it works on both

[shell mauve]

I am not an idiot...

ok I'll shut up

need more coffee

[dusty quail]

anyway

I was just gonna say that

there are plenty of good fonts

and the only real reason I was gonna suggest changing it is for our wiki to be its own thing

[shell mauve]

I wouldn't mind seeing the Saira font (or Noto) for the titles/headers at the top of the page

but besides that I wouldn't change more than needed because it looks very refined already

[dusty quail]

sure, but there are no issues changing a font

[lone monolith]

Hello Yolks!

We've had a couple of wiki updates that we think you'll enjoy! First of all, we have a new default skin for the wiki. We'll be working on updating all the pages to look their best with the new skin. We'll also be working on the styling, so it feels like a slice of THE FINALS. Secondly, we have a Tabber. It'll make navigating the wiki significantly easier once we have it set up completely, (especially for you EE hunters.!).

Thank you for contributing to the wiki in the meantime, we've been working on this for a bit!

[shell mauve]

I beg to differ but I was only a graphic designer for 10 years hahahah

but experimenting can't hurt (I hope, I assume Luke knows how burdensome it can be)

[knotty rune]

The new skin looks really good! Thanks to everyone here working on the wiki! Kudos to everyone! 💪🏻

[dusty quail]

(for comparison)

[lone monolith]

https://www.thefinals.wiki/wiki/THE_FINALS_Easter_Egg_Hunt psst

[dusty quail]

will use this colour

[heavy gale]

[knotty rune]

WOOOOOOOW!!! The tabs look REALLY good!! AMAZING guys!! 💪🏻

[lone monolith]

Ignore Luke making the page purple

lmao

[heavy gale]

sorry

[knotty rune]

I can't wait to see all the tiers there, it'll look SO good

[dusty quail]

a bit strong right

[shell mauve]

looks good!

[lone monolith]

Thinking of Seperating them out every 3 tiers

[knotty rune]

Hmmm, maybe having the tabs per level? There might end up being too many tabs in the future 😅

[knotty rune]

Oh, that could work too

[shell mauve]

YOU THINK!?

[shell mauve]

Nearly 100k messages

[knotty rune]

mb, I didn't express myself correctly. I meant having each page being the level, and then inside the tabs with the tiers

Hmmm, are sub-tabs possible? tabception?

[lone monolith]

[knotty rune]

https://tenor.com/view/matrioska-loop-bored-tired-russian-gif-7433508

[heavy gale]

tabception is possible

[dusty quail]

luuuuke comment on the logoo

[shell mauve]

we need hover-over pop-ups soon (for skin pop-ups)

or lore

[heavy gale]

give me a sec

[dusty quail]

tooltips right

[shell mauve]

or like details for guns that inspired something without people having to go off the wiki

[shell mauve]

I mean I would say, take the red one and call it a day

[heavy gale]

it's not on the wiki yet

[shell mauve]

remove the background and make it as big as possible (so cut it to the edge

[dusty quail]

I'm gonna do something else too

[dusty quail]

gotcha

[shell mauve]

like this-ish

using clipping tool so being conservative

[dusty quail]

pixel fitted

@heavy gale

[knotty rune]

😂

[shell mauve]

OMG

NO

BAD BAD BAD

[shell mauve]

yeaah that looks good!

[heavy gale]

[shell mauve]

DONT ENABLE HIM!

D:

STAAWWWPPPP

[dusty quail]

either that or white

but obviously light mode

[manic reef]

bruh

[shell mauve]

red is good

[dusty quail]

defo

now all the links should be red

[shell mauve]

nooo

YELLOW

[heavy gale]

is there anyway to make it more square? so it doesn't look "stretched" on the small version in top left

[shell mauve]

I think you just need to have some transparant space on left and right

otherwise it gets too small

or make the Finals logo a little small

[dusty quail]

yep

[lone monolith]

Should I do it

[dusty quail]

so this is super tight

but I can make it 900x900

to avoid the stretching

[heavy gale]

yeah, try it

[shell mauve]

perfect

[vagrant compass]

Wait can you flip the logo horizontally too

[manic reef]

stop

[vagrant compass]

[knotty rune]

😂😂😂😂

[vagrant compass]

We read from left to right so it should actually look better

[knotty rune]

https://tenor.com/view/do-it-get-to-work-gif-21630516

😂

[shell mauve]

I know this is no fun.. but I think we should consider making the logo smaller and have the wiki logotype go full width

the spacing between the I and the K is too tight

[heavy gale]

this is why I hate logo design

so much to think about

[dusty quail]

it's as close as it is in the regular logo..

I guess I could space it out more though

[vagrant compass]

Vertical letters will always look closer

[shell mauve]

that is why I recommend making the WIKI bigger

so its at least a full pixel

[dusty quail]

I'll try something

[shell mauve]

and make the logo smaller.. but tastefully

[dusty quail]

in the meantime tried a banner out

[shell mauve]

nice!

can someone make a signature banner

[heavy gale]

I like that ngl

logo on the site now

does look kinda cramped though

[shell mauve]

its at an awkward size

[lone monolith]

Hmm

[shell mauve]

so its mushing pixels together to try getting more detail

[lone monolith]

This is just a suggestion but maybe just use the red version of the logo

I can check if that would be alright

[shell mauve]

that is always an option yes

[heavy gale]

also who knew that all we had to do was upload a file called Wiki.png to have a logo on our wiki

[shell mauve]

Luke, can we try to use Saira for the headers? (up to H1)

[dusty quail]

trying something crazy

[vagrant compass]

The one fish posted is saira, no?

[lone monolith]

What

Oh

[shell mauve]

yeah all of it afaik

[vagrant compass]

What if the space outside the logo was blanked out entirely

let's make this as unreadable as possible just for fun

[shell mauve]

oh boy..

I wonder if y5ou can see either the logo or the Wiki text.. that said it should be readable

[heavy gale]

that took me a while to under it was the red logo inside the text

[vagrant compass]

the word wiki doesn't lend itself to graphic design

[shell mauve]

can we not just call it IKI xD

[vagrant compass]

red logo+white text maybe

[shell mauve]

nah won't work because light mode

[heavy gale]

how's this for the logo?

[shell mauve]

yes

this works for me

[vagrant compass]

outer shadow

shadows always look better

[shell mauve]

that's nasty

flat design > adds shadow

[heavy gale]

I do wonder actually ifffff

[vagrant compass]

Could there be a TF-red banner on top with everything else in white, like the official website?

[lone monolith]

Thinking about switching the banner out for this one

[shell mauve]

they often do but it also means you have to scale down the size to allow the shadow bleed :3

[lone monolith]

@dusty quail Could you get a version of THE FINALS red logo as a ICO and send it here?

[heavy gale]

I think that one would work very well

[dusty quail]

🧠

[shell mauve]

https://tenor.com/view/wtf-stare-what-gif-15372112

[dusty quail]

just the symbol?

[lone monolith]

Mhmm

[shell mauve]

I just noticed that on 1080p, the official site's logotype is also very tight

so its cannon? 😮

[dusty quail]

kyne here

[heavy gale]

that looks good

[lone monolith]

Thank you

[dusty quail]

I think my W needs a bit of work

but I like it

[shell mauve]

your W?

[heavy gale]

we now have a favicon

[lone monolith]

[shell mauve]

looks good!

[vagrant compass]

[shell mauve]

Love it

[lone monolith]

Honestly

I like the logo

[dusty quail]

not a fan of the zooming in when you hover over this one

[lone monolith]

[dusty quail]

which??

[lone monolith]

The one I cnanot defend why I like

But I like it

[shell mauve]

hoenstly I think we should leave it for now

might grow on us

[vagrant compass]

Yeah, no one outside this place will think twice about it

[dusty quail]

might need to change this title though...

[shell mauve]

is there any way we can make it like 5pixels bigger? haha

like the container

[lone monolith]

It's because we can't change the main page title

[dusty quail]

Who can?

[shell mauve]

so the logo is slightly bigger? or make the container fit the original rectangle ratio?

[lone monolith]

Well anyone can but we need to change the display name and we have to have the wiki people set a flag on the local file to let us do that

[dusty quail]

Gotcha :)

at least put it on the 'list' though

[heavy gale]

[lone monolith]

When it gets flipped off the main page will get renamed to THE FINALS Community Wiki

[shell mauve]

really? we can't change the CSS to allow it to be like.. 75x90 px?

[dusty quail]

too big 😭 (wait nvm it might fit)

ignore the sketchy one on the left

[vagrant compass]

Looks like a suspicious and possibly illegal website

[lone monolith]

I need to stop looking on my main twitter account at work

I am going to get fired

[lapis kindle]

what’s going on here

[shell mauve]

like this would make such a difference

[lone monolith]

We got the wiki updated and most of the plugins we were wanting

[shell mauve]

if we could make it 39x32 insead of 32x32

[lone monolith]

Now we are absolutely killing the wiki with changes to the style

[vagrant compass]

I can't even see what you're doing Povich

[shell mauve]

one sec

[vagrant compass]

Either one looks fine to me. Remember the average user will look at this for 0.5sec

[shell mauve]

I know but see the difference

[dusty quail]

I see, I will try and fix

[shell mauve]

no fish

thats not on your end

its the container of the wiki

the container is 32x32

[dusty quail]

I mean I can manually add space to the tiny version of the logo lol

[shell mauve]

no don't

that's blasphemy

D:

there needs to be a way to change the CSS to make the image 39x32

[dusty quail]

so you're suggesting we bump it up

[shell mauve]

yes..

[dusty quail]

Kk in the meantime

I'm gonna turn my logo into 32x32

[shell mauve]

but i think only Luke and Kyne can go that deep

[dusty quail]

And then edit pixels until it looks good

/s

[shell mauve]

^

[dusty quail]

also wouldn't work

because when you click the menu thingy a larger version of the logo comes up

@heavy gale could you possibly use this version and see if it looks any better?

[shell mauve]

https://tenor.com/view/hnnng-heart-attack-heart-attack-meme-oof-ow-gif-24467984

jk could've fool me (on the spacing)

[lone monolith]

Updated

[shell mauve]

not bad!

[lone monolith]

[stiff dove]

ohh yeah the wiki looking fresh already! that was quick

[lone monolith]

We're just getting started

[stiff dove]

ikr

[static light]

Wiki looking tight

[dusty quail]

At some point I think it would be really neat if we made the weapons page like an image catalogue of weapons

sorta like these

but for each weapon

[lone monolith]

~~and then the dataminers can have fun figuring out the exact stats of everything ~~

[shell mauve]

Haha I mean sharing in caring in that case

[vestal knot]

Next finals release I’m on it

[dusty quail]

haha we have the images I think

just use the same side-views

[vestal knot]

Where?????

[dusty quail]

the same ones that are on the pages haha

[vestal knot]

Listen alright, you know how people can have videos and stuff on fandom pages?

Or webcomic pages?

I’m gonna take a video of the weapon in its base form rotating and put it on the weapons page

So you get a full view of it

And later when I have enough experience, I could put a selection of the skins on the gun and you could see how each skin looks on the gun

[lone monolith]

I'm currently working on hashing out what the design for the wiki is gonna be

So I'd wait until that's done to start deciding to add new things

[dusty quail]

oooh can't wait to see that

it's redesign era 🙏

[stiff dove]

[shell mauve]

I like the banner zoom when you hover over it, but I would make it a little less if possible as its going out of frame

[dusty quail]

use this instead

or this

[dusty quail]

done!

[shell mauve]

nice!

looks dope

[dusty quail]

trying the iseul-t version for a second

[lone monolith]

We're gonna work on the image zooming since we can disable that, just takes a bit of effort.

[heavy gale]

Hey guys,

I love all the work that you're putting in. However, could you please speak to me or Kyne before making any changes to the main page and MP assets? We are currently working on the overall layout and planning to modify some elements (such as zoom)

also fixed the zoom

[dusty quail]

no problem haha my bad

maybe adding a pinch of zoom to these would be cool also

awesome work btw

[lone monolith]

Thoise are galleries so we might have to look if that's possible

[vagrant compass]

I really like this color scheme, I assume it's not going to be a main page banner but could be used somewhere else

[stiff dove]

I love blu

[strange mantle]

Blu nice

[static light]

thoughts on this type of layout? i like the bullets better than just solid text

[stiff dove]

I agree

[serene bramble]

this is kinda random but was this confirmed anywhere or just kinda assumed

cuz i found this area that looks kinda like the map which is relatively close to the French embassy, but like not really, it's just under a mile from it
obviously the map isn't a perfect recreation of anywhere in particular but it was just smth i noticed

[shell mauve]

It might be better to name the hospital instead

Or some other reference in map

[lone monolith]

Bulletins are very good for ease of reading for people with autism and dyslexia alike so i very much support this writing style

[lapis kindle]

#📂┇the-finals-wiki message this is what i found last time

the French Embassy was just a guess. think we should change it since it’s not confirmed

[tepid knoll]

damn im amazed how similar it looks

[serene bramble]

tbh it's not rlly similar lol

I just noticed the sky bridge

i think the map is a conglomeration of different buildings and features from the city and not based off one particular area

i looked all over Seoul and that is the best i could find

[tepid knoll]

I did too, it seems like a lot of insiration of colours and even rough ideas for hospital roof was derived from it\

[serene bramble]

yeah

[tepid knoll]

even in the corner it has the almost floating building that you cant get to

large buildfing similar to construction

and another where the top looks like data center

[serene bramble]

but also in the game you appear to be way higher up in the air

the sky bridge in that pic is actually really close to the ground

[tepid knoll]

true but as inspiration I almost recon they looked at that place

[serene bramble]

100%

[tepid knoll]

W find lol

I would ping one of the embark crew to try to confirm but im scared lool, and I dont know who the texture and level designers are

[serene bramble]

oh wait yeah we totally found the exact same spot, lol. didn't realize it till now. that hill with the towers in the background gives it away

so yeah it should prob be fixed

[static light]

i added some more to the in-game EE page, like the S Lies message and SR Monaco sprays

[lone monolith]

Nice!

I reorganized it a little bit so we have the CB1 discoveries and the CB2 discoveries

[knotty rune]

Nice work! With each new addition, the EE pages are closer to completion! 💪🏻

[faint smelt]

Did you know: The AKM in the Finals is a real gun?

[shell mauve]

I do I do

[sweet locust]

theres no way you just asked that

[cyan tendon]

guys correct me if im wrong. is the suspended structures is located on three locations: Royal Plaza, Park, and the forest. also im making it sure if i can call them sectors instead of points of interest, its too long. Thanks in advance.

[lone monolith]

I don't know what the actual term for it is

[cyan tendon]

maybe im kinda right with the three locations where the suspended structures are.

[lone monolith]

Ther's 4 locations

Forest, Park, Royal Plaza, and Pocket Park

[cyan tendon]

ohhh i forgot that pocket park has those.

[cyan tendon]

wait can you move the cannons in different angles?

[lone monolith]

In the Closed ALpha you could

[cyan tendon]

"one last question" are there raisable barriers if there is a suspended structure on the royal plaza?

[manic reef]

If you're talking about the yellow walls that are slightly taller than the heavy build they're there regardless

[cyan tendon]

yeah the yellow walls. thanks im trying to make it sure dont wanna piss off people here LUL

[manic reef]

They did get changed in cb2 though

[obsidian venture]

NDA BROKEN YOU WILL BE DETAINED IN 62 HOURS

[quasi echo]

Media is under NDA, talking about CA is not

[shell mauve]

We can talk about it, just not show you any of it

[cyan tendon]

LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOO 💀

[lone monolith]

[shell mauve]

https://tenor.com/view/police-chase-run-being-chased-running-away-gif-5786191

[cyan tendon]

what is the most open area in seoul arena, is it the Petronelle Plaza's garden?

[lone monolith]

Maybe? It's between the Data Center's Garden and the area between the Hospitals

[shell mauve]

I would say the permanent “bridge” between the hospital sections yeah

[velvet crater]

to determine better exact location of the players, is the community thinking of naming every map's main spots like for example CS:GO for better communicaton or are the maps too much complex?

[dusty quail]

The main spots have names already I think

[lone monolith]

For the most part we've been using this, Data, Mall, Tower, Apartments, on Seoul at least

Not sure what we're calling the hospital since there's 2 sections to it

I've been doing Infirmary and Hospital

[quasi echo]

Hospital and Mall is the only thing i used in CB2

[dusty quail]

I've been saying 'near Hospital' and 'far Hospital'

[shell mauve]

Alleyway (the part between apartments and Construction that comes from hospital to Mall)

Courtyard (the open space next to apartments)

Server room (the low part)

Data Center (high part)

[cyan tendon]

is the crane really interactable like swinging the wrecking ball.

[sour laurel]

It was in the alpha

[cyan tendon]

oh thats why. i was finding a clip for it but i bet its not necessary

[shell mauve]

You shouldn’t be able to find a clip of it since the alpha was under NDA

So anyone sharing that would be breaking said NDA

[sweet locust]

We love breaking nda

[oblique wagon]

We love breaking nda

[quasi echo]

Repair the nda

[cyan tendon]

icy icy

what are the rules to avoid breaking nda? cuz im making a video about the game.

[manic reef]

no alpha game play footage

[cyan tendon]

so the beta footage is okay?

[quasi echo]

yes

[cyan tendon]

sure sure that will be okay. but why shroud's video about the game is not shut downed?

like thats alpha footage right?

[vagrant compass]

Can you send us an eggmail to check? #📧┇contact-us

[quasi echo]

im pretty sure thats beta

[cyan tendon]

oh right yea....

[shell mauve]

Content creators had a special session before CB1

[cyan tendon]

yo mods i can improve the description of the hospital if you wanted too.

[lone monolith]

If you want to

[cyan tendon]

yo guys can someone recall that does the apartment have 3 staircases or 4?

[lone monolith]

2 I think

[cyan tendon]

i notice that the drawbridges doesn't include here. would you mind if i can add it?

i already added it btw.

[lone monolith]

Oop

Thanks

[rare widget]

You were able to move it in cb2, idk about prior. In fact one of my absolute favourite strats was using the crane to get on top of the hospital in Seoul

People would break the skybridge, and camp the crossing, but they wouldn't pay attention to the crane arm swinging up above them

[manic reef]

you were always able to move it
just that we don't have the wrecking ball anymore

[rare widget]

Oh I gotcha

I love the crane so much, I hope we get other interactive stuff

Stationary demo equipment with a moveable arm or something

Or other variations of the cannons

[supple nimbus]

You could during CB1 & CB2

[shell mauve]

CA had wrecking ball and fully rotatable cannons

[static light]

https://tenor.com/view/f-bi-raid-swat-gif-11500735

NDA police incoming

[shell mauve]

Ah no

[lone monolith]

Closed Alpha had a media NDA, not Impression NDA.

It's why we occasionally talk about it

[strange mantle]

There were guns in the alpha 🤐🤐🤐

[stone river]

arrest him

[lone monolith]

Hey does anyone have the in game descriptions for the XP-54, FCAR, and Lewis Gun?

[stiff dove]

like for the skins? for the Lewis Gun it's there already in the table (under Descriptions) but I also still have images of it if you need

[lone monolith]

Ohh

The like actual weapon description

[stiff dove]

ahh okay, I found it for the Lewis Gun: Pan magazine-fed light machine gun

[lone monolith]

Goated

[void leaf]

Ror

[cyan tendon]

I need assistance. How many seconds is the cool down of the evasive dash>

[heavy gale]

Great question

[lone monolith]

Whenever the next oppertunity to play the game is I'll make a list of the things we need for the Wiki and assign it out to peeps that want to help

[static light]

i know that we still need a lot of damage and cooldown values for gadgets and specializations

[stiff dove]

also all of the skins for the gadgets, and in general you could also put in all character skins/accessoires/etc. that would be a lot of work (especially in the future I think) though. maybe limit it to bundles then. idk :D

[lone monolith]

The next on the list for the wiki besides the Main Page, (which is largely done now) will be the weapons.

[lone monolith]

Yeah I think I forgot about player cosmetics for some reason. That will not be the case whenever we get our hands on the game again lol

[stiff dove]

yeah all good, I think the stuff there is now had more of a priority

[lone monolith]

We'll be doing weapon skins a bit differently

[stiff dove]

yeah that might look better/more clear noice

[lone monolith]

I'm still gonna have to figure out how to layout the Easter Egg page

[stiff dove]

here are the colors for epic/rare/common if you need them btw

[lone monolith]

Legendary being Yellow was because I selected it

[stiff dove]

I think it's right though

the color for Legendary

[cyan tendon]

i bet im gonna do the research since i have a lot of vods about this game.

[manic reef]

it's like 5 or 6 seconds

probably still 5

just briefly looked at one of my recordings

[dusty quail]

👀

wiki's looking pretty great 💪

ocd

😍 😍 😍 😍 😍

[heavy gale]

that'll be sorted at some point

[dusty quail]

great work tho, can't wait to see what you guys have cooked BTS

[dusty quail]

I see

[knotty rune]

I just added a thing we were missing from the COTHH page... https://www.thefinals.wiki/wiki/Church_Of_The_Holy_Hunters

[dusty quail]

I love the new font!

[lone monolith]

[dusty quail]

the header font is a bit chonky

[shell mauve]

luv it 😄

[lone monolith]

For the record we just changed the font moving forward, we've got style guides we'll be using for pages.

[shell mauve]

I assumed so

(that you would use style guides)

personally I don't see an issue with the headers being so different, makes sense to me

[lone monolith]

Well the headers are gonna be in all caps

[shell mauve]

nice nice

[lone monolith]

Saira Fattened

It'll look like this

[dusty quail]

Upon further review it looks great

[lone monolith]

Can we replace it with impact font for april fools

[shell mauve]

ohh I like the pros and cons instead of strengths and weaknesses

[lone monolith]

wouldn't it be "and also allows" since it isnt a contradiction to the first statement?

But implies a contradiction

Also question

[lone monolith]

idk I didn't write the content in it

Will the Wiki eventually be linked within the game itself?
I think it'd help a lot for finding it

considering how much SEO Fandom has

[lone monolith]

teehee

[dusty quail]

That would be really helpful

[lone monolith]

Could even market it as a "Player Handbook" within the game itself

that'd be cute

Contestant handbook yeah :)

[shell mauve]

It's but because it technically contradicts it only being effective at medium range

[lone monolith]

hmm hmm

alright thnak you :)

[shell mauve]

but if it bothers you we can always change it

[dusty quail]

Going to edit that paragraph

[shell mauve]

why?

[dusty quail]

it has things I'd change, repeated words, etc. Just doing this for flow

[shell mauve]

there are next to no repeated words..

only notable one is enemy enemies

but fair enough, If you can improve the flow than I'm all for it

[dusty quail]

gave it a little bit more meat 🥙

also shifted around some 'opinion' words or whatever they're called

[shell mauve]

I mean if it makes an interesting read and doesn't undermine the objective traits I don't see why not keep it lively

[dusty quail]

yep! when reading this stuff I always imagine the Gunsmiths in John Wick laying out the weapon like it's something in a shopping catalogue haha

[shell mauve]

I'll read it when I'm done with my videogame

[dusty quail]

gah it hasn't even been judged yet

[cosmic rover]

any plans to show off all the skins on the wiki? Id really love to be able to browse the sword skins, also being able to view the item shop from it would be cool once game is launched.

[heavy gale]

Atm, most skins are on the wiki minus sword due to not being able to screenshot the whole sword without it being cut off which we hope to sort soon

in terms of the items store, we'll see what happens

[cosmic rover]

ah figures lol

found an error for yall btw. the LH1 page says its a medium weapon while it is actually a light weapon.

oh is the fandom wiki not yall?

[heavy gale]

this one https://www.thefinals.wiki/wiki/Main_Page is ours

[cosmic rover]

gotcha nvm then on the error

been using the fandom one by accident

[heavy gale]

it happens

[cosmic rover]

i really hope this gets sorted!

ah here we go i found an error this time for realsy. The baseball bat skin is missing on the sword page, i dont mean image either i know yall are working on that but its not even listed.

[heavy gale]

we'll get it sorted

[cosmic rover]

also, would the katana be a separate weapon from the sword? or would it just be a skin?0 yall just playing it safe i assume?

[heavy gale]

just playing it safe atm

[shell mauve]

I'm not crying while laughing

at all..

I promise hahaha

[lone monolith]

ah yes... "damage drop-off"

can't wait to see someone calling the zipline a bad option for close range encounters

[shell mauve]

Healing Beam has terrible DPS

[lone monolith]

It has negative DPS

[serene bramble]

new alt attack for the sword: throw
but you have to go and pick it up

[manic reef]

#game-feedback

[lone monolith]

that'd be funny

[lone monolith]

If you toss the sword you're left with your fists pfshw

Rule 1 of Sword Club: use your fists.

[meager ice]

Wikipedia

[cyan tendon]

yo much health is the light class again? cant see in the video since its block. dont ask why tho LUL

nvm its 150 health i might find it on youtube for medium and heavy

[shell mauve]

Is it not on the wiki?

[cyan tendon]

idk man i didnt even notice it

like nothing

[dusty quail]

nope

because it's subject to change I guess?

[cyan tendon]

im actually make a demonstration of the game for my script i might add some help here while im writing it.

i might add some Pros and cons of each build/contestants.

[lone monolith]

https://www.thefinals.wiki/wiki/AKM

[stiff dove]

yoooo

looking good, nice work

I'm not sure if seeing the Legendary skins first would be maybe cooler? so sorting the table right around the other way? so: Legendary, Epic, Rare, Common. not really sure though

• can you make the mouse-hover effect in the same according color? currently it's always blue when you hover over it (here I am hovering over Legendary)

[heavy gale]

[shell mauve]

[lone monolith]

golden legendary blue rare purple epic green common?

as per standard?

[stiff dove]

yes, it's already that way but the hover-effect isn't behaving like that currently

[lone monolith]

ahhhhhhhh

[dusty quail]

looks so sick!

[stone river]

this is absolutely fire

[meager ice]

Wikipedia

[cyan tendon]

guys what're your opinions about fighting up close with the mp5? i notice that firing rate is very slow and fighting up close could be fatal.

[manic reef]

It has lower ttk though

[cyan tendon]

ttk?

[manic reef]

Kills faster than m11

[cyan tendon]

what's that

[manic reef]

Time to kill

[cyan tendon]

ohh

yeah slow firing rate but high damage

[manic reef]

Fighting up close as the lowest hp class is always potentially fatal either way

[cyan tendon]

make sense. thanks for the info.

[cyan tendon]

Mp5 recoil

mac 11 recoil:

hope this helps for the wiki sorry for the low res. photoshop is fucky rn

[shell mauve]

Its useful but for how long is my worry

It will likely change (significantly) between now and the next beta

[shell mauve]

Kyne the boss man

[lapis kindle]

finally the update is out

[heavy gale]

Yes Kyne the boss man

[shell mauve]

Haha 😂

Whatever.. Let Zeke believe we are manageable

[stiff dove]

nice work! looks clean

[shell mauve]

It does look brilliant!

[lapis kindle]

thank you, we've been at it for quite some time. now we can keep adding to it

[knotty rune]

Nice work! Looks really good! Kudos! 💪🏻

[heavy gale]

Make sure to check out the weapon pages

And also the arena pages

Also other reworks are in the pipeline

[knotty rune]

Like making the Church Of The Holy Hunters page the main one? I'm sure that's one of the things you guys have in mind...😛

[lone monolith]

We are actually gonna be renaming it to the Embark Asylum

Or naming the section it's in the Embark Asylum

[cosmic rover]

hey guys the sword page is missing the baseball bat skin. just wanted to let yall know

[knotty rune]

I like the "Church Of The Holy Hunters" name. You came up with it, right? I think it fits the theme of the meme really well 😂

[lone monolith]

Yeah

[lone monolith]

I'll get Bobby fired for this i stg

[cosmic rover]

lol

[knotty rune]

Little Bobby Tables? 😂

[lapis kindle]

ye the idea for renaming was for it to be a bit more approachable for users that have no idea about the EE server lore

[rare widget]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c9ySnludT6A

Just want to mention, to anyone else who might be adding in missing stats to the weapons pages

this is a good resource, the creater does full mag dumps of most of the weapons which lets you calculate the firerate, as well as showing full reloads

better then most of the weapons showcase videos where the creaters just randomly tapfire through the magazines

It's older though and doesn't have certain weapons like the FCAR so bear that in mind

[lone monolith]

We're gonna wait to update all the things until whenever the next playtest is.

[rare widget]

I feel motivated rn so I'm going through a couple weapons that have incomplete pages and fleshing them out

https://www.thefinals.wiki/wiki/FCAR here is the new FCAR page

[dusty quail]

Love how the wiki looks!

[knotty rune]

Oh, I see. Makes sense 😂

[rare widget]

https://www.thefinals.wiki/wiki/R.357

https://www.thefinals.wiki/wiki/Model_1887

updated the pages for both

they now have their reload times, and firerates displayed, I also revamped the information sections and standardized section headers with the the rest of the weapons

[proud girder]

Okay, can we talk about how smooth those model 1887 animations are?

I might have to give it some use just to watch them

[rare widget]

I would love to see the animator(s) responsible for it, talk about their design process, because it's immaculate I agree

The animations in general for this game are amazing, but that 1887 especially just looks and feels so dang good and realistic

[tall lintel]

(dagger equip anim also looks beautiful)

[rare widget]

alrighty

All of the medium weapons have been updated

I am now tired, and demotivated

Will leave Light and Heavy to some other time

[static light]

if your name ends in -shel you are a chad

just as a general rule pretty much

[manic reef]

cb1 though

[rare widget]

addressed this ^

[signal remnant]

kyne luke spear & smashel, i just looked at the page due to the announce, just wanted to say it looks absolutely beautiful

church of the holy hunters has me crying

THE TAKE A SCREENSHOT??!?!?!

[knotty rune]

Yeah, Duhmeister created that gif a while ago 😂

[signal remnant]

I love yall so much lol

[knotty rune]

(And also that poem at the bottom)

[signal remnant]

The depth this community has will not go unnoticed

[real stirrup]

The updates look awesome!!

This is Polish painter Jan Matejko

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jan_Matejko

[static light]

added ✅

[thick crystal]

does using right click aim actually reduce recoil or anything? is there any point to using it other than just zoom in?

[rare widget]

It's not reducing recoil, It's reducing bullet spread due to rifle sway

[static light]

Make sure the writing leans more towards "informative and concise," sometimes it's hard to extract information when there's a lot of "fluff" involved. Once it's slimmed down I think there's still a lot of good information in these pages.

[rare widget]

Thank you for the tips, I mentioned in the Fcar one I think, I tend to go big or go home

[shell mauve]

Well it doesn’t have to be boring

Look at the pros and cons of the AKM

Its nice and fluffy but not inaccurate or overstated

Having a little humor in the undertone can also make reading it more interesting, but you really want to avoid making it an opinion piece by calling a weapon bad

We had a few early concepts that were very simple summaries of “its shit”

[shell mauve]

I’ll write a page for Moolah, I have seen it’s journey and I know its essence.

Just need a logical place to link him in, since he’s not officially a mascotte

[gleaming shoal]

dont know if its a new find (didnt find others per discord search) but there are some Lewis skins under the M60s epic skins tab. Maybe they are space holders as noone took one of the M60 but the same pattern exists for both, i dont know. Just wanted to point that out.

[heavy gale]

Thanks for pointing it out , I've removed it for now as we don't have any pictures of the m60 version as far as I'm aware

[shell mauve]

Gonna write something on Moolah here https://www.thefinals.wiki/wiki/Lore

But since they’re not the official mascot I will just write a short (temporary) intro to Namatama.

[heavy gale]

we do have a nama tama page here https://www.thefinals.wiki/wiki/Nama_Tama

[shell mauve]

How does thatl ink back to the main page?

https://www.thefinals.wiki/wiki/Lore @heavy gale My inability made the lowout a little messy D:

but all the content is there

It was supposed to be below it :c

[shell mauve]

I cannot get it to work.. >.<

all the info is there

[dusty quail]

@shell mauve should we assume Moolah is a cow?

[shell mauve]

yes

[dusty quail]

Then it would be the first 'he' cow I've seen 💀

[shell mauve]

... Why do you have to give Moolah a gender?

[heavy gale]

it's all fixed I'll make it so that it's a lot more user friendly asap

as atm it fucked with the visual editor with how mediawiki styling is

[shell mauve]

Yeah I couldn't see the template so I thoguht it would just copy paste whatever I see on the edit screen D:

[shell mauve]

https://www.thefinals.wiki/wiki/Moolah

its WIP

[dusty quail]

I didn't...

cough cough

🤓

[shell mauve]

?

[dusty quail]

cause back there you said he

nevermind

[shell mauve]

ah I see

should be they

[dusty quail]

I mean it might not be sentient

who knows

[shell mauve]

True

Something to find out in the future

[knotty rune]

Cows are female, it would de a bull otherwise 😅

[shell mauve]

Ok but its a plushie

So…

Bovine?