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[shell mauve]

https://irongatearmory.com/product/colt-python-357-magnum-revolver-with-6-barrel/

We misidentified the R.357 I think

the Raging Bull (and Colt Anaconda) are larger caliber revolvers (.44)

also this seems more accurate visually.

[heavy gale]

[dusty quail]

hey, doesn't it say Python on the gun?

[shell mauve]

it sure does

so I guess the page needs to be rewritten (partially)

[dusty quail]

yeah

but I just wanted to say that I think the wiki information should contain really only information which we can gather from the game

[shell mauve]

I think it can’t hurt that real life guns get real life references. Those are the questions people would ask after all

[dusty quail]

And I think that to say that it's based off of gun X is completely fine

but to say that the gun 'is' a Raging Bull and to state that the gun 'is' used to hunt animals is not quite true

because it just isn't that gun

and it isn't made by that company

(not lore-wise at least)

as far as we know, all the guns are handmade by Discovery. (and possibly based on real guns)

[shell mauve]

I agree we shouldn’t go too in-depth on it.

[dusty quail]

it would be like, if we found an IRL building which looked like Petronelle Plaza, we would not say that Petronelle Plaza is that building

and not state anything more than it's based off of something out-of-game

[shell mauve]

It is based off the Colt Python, it is not the Colt Python (since the game will likely balance it out so it won’t be a one on one comparison)

[dusty quail]

and to not state that 'the building is used as X and was founded in X'
(unless we can gather that info from game info)

so in the same way we would not say that our gun "is" this model and "is" used for this. if you can see what I mean.

[shell mauve]

Well I don’t think we gave to completely remove all trivia but it shouldn’t be claimed as being something since the game will more than likely play with its stats

Like the cathedral, it is based on x (with a direct link) and that’s probably enough info

They can click to the ext page if that is what they want to know more about

[dusty quail]

well see the cathedral is real though, and in-game is supposed to represent the thing in real life.

for things like guns, they are purposefully not named or branded

[shell mauve]

Well its likely not an exact copy

[dusty quail]

and instead have the 'Discovery' logo on them

[shell mauve]

Mostly legal reasons tbf

[dusty quail]

it's not but any 'facts' about the cathedral would likely be true for both IRL and in-game

and so we can really just say that 'the cathedral was built in X' without issue

[shell mauve]

Well its pretty decently done anyway

Yes that is an interesting trivia, but we don’t need to know who got married in the place or how many times it probably got burned down

Anyway.. I need to sleep

[heavy gale]

Night

[dusty quail]

Yeah saying that the .357 is some other gun can be flaky if not stated outright in-game

the Python thing does clear that one up though

just not sure we can detective out any other gun breeds

[heavy gale]

still haven't received the files from Tetis yet

[sweet locust]

We love tetris

[heavy gale]

no, tetris the game is bad

[sweet locust]

You're just mad I beat u

[heavy gale]

I let you win to feel good

[sweet locust]

I'm down for a rematch then

[heavy gale]

Sorry, I don't want to upset you with my raw skill in that game

anyone who sees me play just ends up blind

[sweet locust]

Proof?

[heavy gale]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-blind-speech-bubble-distracted-gif-25553623

the cat is just so stunned and paralyzed by my skill

[sweet locust]

Hmmm

[lone monolith]

i am cooking a pretty big upgrade for the M60 skins section

i see that the notes on most skins are pretty much empty, i'll try to fill them all out

[shell mauve]

ok it was a painful thing but I updated the R.357 page

erven added some nonsensical details to fill the space

[shell mauve]

notes were only meant to be filled if there was something notable, but feel free to do so!

[lone monolith]

wow that cookage was plentiful

as a bonus i edited the cyan Camo Splash M60 image description to change "splah" to "splash"

[shell mauve]

Nice

[heavy gale]

fixed @lone monolith

also, nice cooking Povich and Nutcraft

[shell mauve]

Didnt cook much haha

Unfortunately I deleted more than I added but that’s the reality of correcting :c

[heavy gale]

any kind of wiki cooking is good cooking

[shell mauve]

Alright haha

[lone monolith]

i truly regret updating the m60 entry page because now i'll have to update all weapon pages to appear in a similar manner

[heavy gale]

yep

don't worry though, I'll do the light weapons

I've got to upload all the variants anyway for it

[shell mauve]

We all started somewhere haha

[stiff dove]

👍 Thank you 😂

[lone monolith]

When i get back home i’ll update the AKM

At least i plan to do so

[shell mauve]

Thanks bud!

Appreciate doing the dirty jobs 🙂

[heavy gale]

You might need to upload all dye variants and stuff for it

[lone monolith]

Uh oh. Is there a way to dump the assets or something

I assumed someone did that already

[heavy gale]

I'll send over the zips

[lone monolith]

Time to dump this on my iCloud

[heavy gale]

ignore the 2 random pictures which I just remembered was in one of the folders

[shell mauve]

Those are only for intimacy of Luke but I guess that’s you now haha

[lone monolith]

you've peaked my curiosity

[lapis kindle]

thanks for your contributions

☕

[shell mauve]

@lone monolith what do you mean rewrite?

[lone monolith]

update the skin notes to be consistent with the changes i recently made with the M60 page

[shell mauve]

ohhh

I thought you were gonna undo other people's work haha

[heavy gale]

you'll probably need the upload image page: https://www.thefinals.wiki/wiki/Special:Upload

[lone monolith]

well i'm off to create a MediaWiki account

[shell mauve]

smart 😉 Its easier for all of us to keep track of our work!

alrighty good nighty!

[heavy gale]

sheesh

[heavy gale]

night bud

[lone monolith]

that's impressive considering that the wiki team is pretty small

[shell mauve]

Just like Embark, we move mountains with relatively small numbers

[heavy gale]

and now we dragged you into hell this wiki team, you can join us make it the best

[lone monolith]

one more thing: if you see any entries where the e key repeats twice for no reason, it's my fault

[heavy gale]

mac laptop keyboard problem or keychron keyboard problem?

[shell mauve]

@lone monolith (removed link to not enable spammer) this is a registered user, I don't recognise it, do you know who it is?

[heavy gale]

spam

[lone monolith]

^

I was banning them but they pop up so much I just stopped lol

[lone monolith]

mac

[shell mauve]

ah ok ok

[heavy gale]

surprised you don't use the keychron, would make wiki typing easier

[lone monolith]

actually i'll go grab it

[heavy gale]

Gib admin, me ban

[shell mauve]

oh yeah I see it now..

[heavy gale]

I guess I might as well add the other light skin variants while notcraft is doing the medium AKMs

[lone monolith]

yeah i'm currently uploading all of the missing assets

from what i can tell the dye job variants are missing

[heavy gale]

yeah, all the dye ones minus yellow and some others

basically any skin that has another variant, the other variant won't be uploaded

[lone monolith]

the file names will probably overlap and the image won't upload

[heavy gale]

unless it's the heavy weapons because @stiff dove did it properly

[heavy gale]

you should be fine as the skin variant images have the colour in the file name

for medium weapons

[lone monolith]

oh no

my MediaWiki account automatically capitalised the first letter of my nickname

[heavy gale]

[lone monolith]

i got so used to my name that "Notcraft" looks weird

[heavy gale]

not even an underscore? bad

[lone monolith]

i decided to skip it because some sites don't allow special characters

Interesting detail i've noticed during upload

[heavy gale]

what's up?

[lone monolith]

AKM | Dye Job's white variant has a pink tip on the mag

I wonder if that's on purpose or a rendering mistake

[heavy gale]

that is a good catch

looks cool though tbf

is it just my internet or is the wiki kinda slow today?

[stiff dove]

Yeah I noticed that earlier today too, right now it's also taking really long for some pages too

[shell mauve]

I woke up to read I didn’t name my files properly?

[heavy gale]

nah nah, it's named completely

[lone monolith]

nope, it's a bit slower

[heavy gale]

correctly*

[shell mauve]

[heavy gale]

just the white dye job has a pink mag

whereas all the other dye job ones have the same coloured mag dependant on dye job

like yellow has yellow mag

[lone monolith]

oh good

safari allows you to drag to select table cells

i don't know why but i couldn't do that on firefox (windows)

one question: is the thumbnail size for the weapon skins meant to be 128x65 or 127x65

[heavy gale]

128x72

[lone monolith]

interesting

well i guess i have to update all of them

oh it's because mediawiki keeps images to their original aspect ratio

[heavy gale]

ay, yeah

how's it going @lone monolith ?

[lone monolith]

alright, finishing up the dye job table

next i'll check if any other skins are missing from here

[heavy gale]

okie dokie

btw, the skin named FORGOTTHENAME is a variant of the Phantom Shine

[lone monolith]

alright i think i'll give uniform lacquer the same notes as the m60 since it's the exact same skin, just on a different weapon model

[heavy gale]

ok, I've uploaded the V9S variants, haven't done any major changes to the table yet though, will do that tomorrow

in terms of the AKM page @lone monolith, finish it and then leave the rest of the medium weapons for tomorrow or whenever you're free after tonight, got some questions to ask once everyone is on tomorrow

[lone monolith]

alright

[heavy gale]

how's it looking ?

[lone monolith]

have to finish the last 2

[heavy gale]

don't forget to hit the save button once done

[lone monolith]

sounds about right

i clicked "review my changes", worst mistake of my life

[heavy gale]

slow loading times?

[lone monolith]

had to wait for this thing to cook for 5 minutes straight

[heavy gale]

yeah, it do be like that tonight for some reason

[heavy gale]

greating cooking on the wiki btw @lone monolith

[lone monolith]

what can i say i'm a bit of a professional ascii character inserter myself

[heavy gale]

Tetis will be sending me the team logos hopefully in a few hours time (just to keep everyone up to date)

[lone monolith]

Any updates?

[heavy gale]

for the team logos, nope, I think they forgot

[lone monolith]

The good thing is that the wiki isn’t as slow as yesterday

[heavy gale]

Also, question for everyone, in terms of the weapon tables, what do you think about the extra info that @lone monolith has added it? I like the extra details however I guess we should probably get everyone's opinions on it before doing it to every weapon table and spending hours. https://www.thefinals.wiki/wiki/M60

[lone monolith]

I like it

Honestly the base weapons are the hardest since they have more skins

If you look at the repeater for example, the skin list is way shorter

[lone monolith]

https://tenor.com/view/but-heres-the-uh-i-forgor-gif-26494840

[lapis kindle]

i can work on it and have them ready today if needed

– they’re not hard to replicate

[heavy gale]

yes please

[lapis kindle]

i like it – giving extra tidbits is awesome

[lone monolith]

It’s nice that MediaWiki is so versatile

It supports quite a few CSS arguments

[heavy gale]

it also supports lua modules and all that

[stiff dove]

[lapis kindle]

no problem, i believe Tetis is very busy – they were the first time they worked on the logos

[stiff dove]

I like it too, but I think we don't need to put notes everywhere. For example the M60 page: the notes telling whether it is the first, second, third, fourth or fifth variant IMO don't really matter and can be just left out.

It would be different if there would be like variant levels and they depend on them each other or something, but in this case I think it's just purely random in which order the skins were put on customise screen. Idk, it makes it look kinda bloated with irrelevant information, but that's just how I feel like!

Another suggestion: it would be nice if not everything starts with the same sentence, we could shorten it a bit.
Example: This skin features a cyan camouflage print on the Upper Receiver and Stock. => Cyan camouflage print on the Upper Receiver and Stock.. Because if you look at the table right now, (again) it feels kinda bloated IMO, I don't wanna read "This skin features" ten times, it's fine to make that more short and "bullet-pointy". Otherwise I think these descriptions are good additions! Thanks notcraft

[lone monolith]

Makes sense. I was contemplating whether this is a good idea too.

I think bullet points would generally make more sense

I’ll cook up a rewrite when I get back home

[shell mauve]

It is in a table because we want to keep it short and simple. On phone its a little bloated and the notes were really meant for “essential” stuff. That said, good work shouldn’t be punished, if we can make it a little more to the point (try max 6 words maybe) that would probably solve a lot of the bloating.

I do think the color is a good addition!

[heavy gale]

I added the M11 skin variants but wiki is being slow again tonight so will just do the other light weapon skin variants tomorrow when it comes back to life

[shell mauve]

Is that an issue to be worried about?

[heavy gale]

So far 2 nights in a row where it's just been super slow, hopefully it's just a weird server issue with them

[lapis kindle]

got caught up yesterday doing other things – will work on them during the morning. sorry about that

[heavy gale]

it's fine, we're not in a rush

[lone monolith]

https://tenor.com/view/pc-fire-gif-18709628

MediaWiki servers at exactly 9 PM CET

[heavy gale]

Apparently so 😂

[lapis kindle]

alright, i've recreated all the ones Tetis had

gonna check my footage to see if i can work on the ones missing

[lapis kindle]

-- so i'm only missing image references for The Tough Shells and The Vogues

[heavy gale]

@vagrant compass any chance we can get some image references for The Tough Shells and The Vogues team?

[vagrant compass]

Will inquire about it

[lapis kindle]

if anyone just happens to have it from their footage, that's enough as well

seems like i never got those team names

[lone monolith]

I'm not entirely sure if it's tough shell but I can't imagine this isn't for them

[heavy gale]

turtle looks about right from what I remember

[lapis kindle]

yes! do we know if The Vogues was just the letter V like Tetis had in their WIP?

[lone monolith]

Maybe

[lapis kindle]

perfection. @vagrant compass no need to bother the team then

thanks either way 🫡

[heavy gale]

thank you @lone monolith

and thank you SPEAR for making them

[lapis kindle]

sure thing. do we want them in the same format as the other logos in the Sponsors section?

1:1, black / white

[heavy gale]

yeah, might aswell

[lapis kindle]

logos uploaded to Wiki, you can add them as a grid-gallery

[heavy gale]

Thank you very much spear

I'll do it once I finish a movie

[heavy gale]

Logos have been added with the team names https://www.thefinals.wiki/wiki/Gameplay

[knotty rune]

I really like the logos of the teams, they are very descriptive of the team names in a minimalistic way. I don't know who worked on that, but congratulations! The logos are really creative 💪🏻

[lapis kindle]

looking good

[lone monolith]

The only one I don't understand is kingfish

[heavy gale]

reminds me of the kingsman logo tbf

the wiki being slow again

[lapis kindle]

i originally thought the Big Splash logo was Kingfish's -- 'cuz of the crown

[knotty rune]

To me, at least, it looks like the front view of a fish, and also has the K on it

[knotty rune]

Yeah, same thing happened to me 😂

Then I realized it's a splash 😅

[heavy gale]

those hamsters need to run faster

[heavy gale]

who's Smashel?

because great proof reading and good edits

[shell mauve]

IS THERE A SMASHEL IN THE HOUSE!?

[vagrant compass]

@static light

[static light]

That's me :)

[vagrant compass]

The legend

[heavy gale]

thanks for all the work you're putting in @static light

[static light]

no problem i'm not too familiar with wiki editing in general so i like to stick to the small stuff

[static light]

added more weapon info boxes, some still need images tho

[heavy gale]

Smashel is cooking on the wiki

[static light]

https://tenor.com/view/cook-gif-7332297

[dusty quail]

to the best of my knowledge, despite the amazing work that you are putting in rn, it might have to be redone in lieu of that skin implementation

however honestly it's looking like that will be a while away so we can really just treat that like far-future stuff

[heavy gale]

skin implementation?

[dusty quail]

The website reskin right

[heavy gale]

ah right yeah

[dusty quail]

there was an attempt

[heavy gale]

in terms of weapon boxes, I kind of tuned them for the reskin and most of it is just css that we can change anyway

yeah, I'll fix that sledge one at some point

[dusty quail]

idk if I should push the change or not 😭

[heavy gale]

you can

[dusty quail]

I can always resize the image so that its the dimensions of like the V9S image

then we'd have a new image in the bank however

[heavy gale]

that's fine

I do wonder how many images we actually have uploaded on the wiki now

[dusty quail]

lmao a lot

by the way I also just wanted to say that the colour of background we have for that template (in my opinion) clashes with the default skins of all the weapons

being different shades of grey doesn't help

[heavy gale]

yeahhh, I've been trying to find other colours that look good and "comply" with the colour scheme

[dusty quail]

Complying I feel like takes a backseat over accessibility

cause really what if we use *that* shade of grey for the website background

if we have 2 dark colours to pick from there will be many instances where one 'dark' area will share a border with 2 other 'dark' areas and then what

[heavy gale]

the background of the theme is most likely going to be finals black as it looked good while we were messing with colours on the now dead test wiki.

[manic reef]

W I D E hammer

[shell mauve]

Note to selves: when/if open beta we should get the weapons boxes fixed (that aren't to our liking yet)

[dusty quail]

Can't wait to pack in a few more weapons too hehe

[heavy gale]

I'll upload the side view of the weapons we currently have tonight after I finish siege

[dusty quail]

wdym

[heavy gale]

there's a few more weapons I have that are from a side view for the infoboxes

[dusty quail]

personal preference here but I honestly prefer the angled look

[heavy gale]

for the infoboxes imo I think side view kinda looks better but we can change it

[shell mauve]

Perfect sideview looks hotter than the skin pic for the boxes

[dusty quail]

yeah don't have a strong preference for the skin pic

I guess it's that *something* is off

but probably not the angle

wait

how do I unupload an image onto the wiki

[heavy gale]

you can't really, you can delete them but they always "exist"

[dusty quail]

cause we have like 20 images of skins which we no longer need

not sure what to do with them

[heavy gale]

Yeah, either leave them or delete them as either way they both stay on the server unless someone runs a php eraseArchivedFile script server side which probably won't happen with this wiki service xD

[sweet locust]

just get rid of them

honestly lmao

[dusty quail]

shut up jag

[manic reef]

jag shut

[dusty quail]

❤️

[manic reef]

i mean it's not like it's taking up precious server space or anything

[dusty quail]

im sorry did you just get summoned as soon as I slander jag

[sweet locust]

im the one who added those images, you can just delete them

[manic reef]

https://tenor.com/view/omw-to-spread-misinformation-all-over-the-internet-gif-26525511

[dusty quail]

YOU're Scuttlecrab?

[heavy gale]

in terms of the gallery on weapon pages though, those can be deleted from the page if it hasn't already

[sweet locust]

yes

lmao

[manic reef]

wrong you're jag

[dusty quail]

I'd love to welcome any aquatic brethren but I do not believe you for a second

[heavy gale]

he is Scuttlecrab

[manic reef]

but yeah he is lmao

[dusty quail]

😭 but how do I delete them

[sweet locust]

you just delete them

[dusty quail]

says the guy who can't spell 1

💀 😭

[heavy gale]

ah, we don't actually have permission to delete them outright aha

[sweet locust]

bro i was hyper doing those thats funny

[dusty quail]

bro did NOT do these

[heavy gale]

if we get a big list of the ones we want delete, @lone monolith should be able to remove them

as he's admin on the wiki

[lone monolith]

I can also just rename the offending ones lol

[sweet locust]

[dusty quail]

I mean they are all in order

all in the same place on the list too

[sweet locust]

i did very good

[heavy gale]

you did do very good

[dusty quail]

okay I scrolled back and you did in fact add those skins

good job

[sweet locust]

i was cooking

at like 3 am lmao

[dusty quail]

fire risk

[sweet locust]

https://tenor.com/view/desmondpacito-cooking-chef-gif-12378159

[dusty quail]

https://tenor.com/view/walter-white-cooking-gif-25906373

[heavy gale]

please don't burn the wiki down

[sweet locust]

i will

[heavy gale]

their servers are already on fire anyway

[dusty quail]

test

[sweet locust]

test

its time to put down fish

[dusty quail]

I didn't say anything

[sweet locust]

[dusty quail]

just trying a different background colour

and also adding drop shadow to the PNG that we use

to make it 'pop'

in comparison to without

[noble anchor]

put the gun down!

[sweet locust]

no

ill put u down to

[manic reef]

Jag

[noble anchor]

HAHAHAHA

Kk lets stop, not in here

[sweet locust]

the more tamer off topic's we had in here

[heavy gale]

you can always edit the css and change the background colour there: https://www.thefinals.wiki/wiki/Template:Infobox/styles.css

[dusty quail]

aint that a sitewide change

[heavy gale]

yeahhh but it's easy to revert it if it goes wrong

[sweet locust]

so something went wrong

[heavy gale]

as everyone says at my work, "why push to test when we can just push to prod and watch it all burn"

[sweet locust]

i burned the wiki

[heavy gale]

in case you want to though, it's just "background" under .infobox-image img

[sweet locust]

shouldnt the link be "toxic gas" instead of just gas?

[dusty quail]

oui

[sweet locust]

oui

[dusty quail]

changing it now

old one for reference

[heavy gale]

it may take the wiki page a while to update to show the new colour

looks better than the old colour

[dusty quail]

really minor change though

[heavy gale]

yeah, maybe a tad bit brighter needed

[dusty quail]

added dropshadow

what do ya think

[heavy gale]

makes the V9S look more visible but I can't actually tell if that's just my eyes doing weird stuff xD

[dusty quail]

changed the background again

[heavy gale]

ok yeah, that looks A LOT cleaner

[dusty quail]

https://www.thefinals.wiki/wiki/V9S

yee I cooked

[heavy gale]

so apparently my secondary monitor IS A LOT darker than my main monitor

[heavy gale]

that does look better and 100% better on the AKM one which has the dark left side of the picture

for the background colour on the AKM one

[dusty quail]

fixed

look better?

[heavy gale]

might want to do the same with the AKM

[heavy gale]

yeah, that's good

[dusty quail]

btw is the sniper called sniper?

[heavy gale]

yeah, the IG name was .30-06 Sniper

[dusty quail]

damn

cause /sniper would've been a cleaner URL

haha

impossible to type into searchbar unless you memorise

[heavy gale]

we can make a redirect page with just "sniper"

[dusty quail]

ta daaaa

[heavy gale]

noice

[dusty quail]

the good thing is the background colour is very customisable

so we can change that sitewide with one edit

[heavy gale]

can change the whole infobox with one edit

the joys of templates

there you go https://www.thefinals.wiki/wiki/sniper now redirects to 30-06

[dusty quail]

ayy

we can change it again if a 2nd sniper is added

[heavy gale]

yeah, I'll probably start making actual category pages and stuff for weapons so that it just lists every weapon within that cat

[dusty quail]

allow me to cook

oh my god it works

[heavy gale]

like this

[dusty quail]

https://www.thefinals.wiki/wiki/V9S

[heavy gale]

which then leads to

[dusty quail]

didn't think you could even do gradients

letsgoo

[heavy gale]

that works tbf, I likey

[lone monolith]

Tbf I think we did 30-06 as the URL in case there were more snipers

Or maybe I was just too in the sauce while doing it

[dusty quail]

don't forget the .

[heavy gale]

most likely but we can always change the redirect if they do end up adding another sniper

[lone monolith]

Sorry the 30-0.6

[dusty quail]

ah

yeah that

[lapis kindle]

what’s the update? drop shadow on the guns?

— sorry didn’t backread entirely. i’m not a fan of drop shadows in this case. that’s just my opinion tho

[dusty quail]

tried to tweak the back colour too

[heavy gale]

also more padding between the sides of the infobox

[dusty quail]

this one I think I prefer best

here is my attempt at recreating the 'actual' in-game colours

[lapis kindle]

what is it that we're trying to fix here?

[dusty quail]

I don't think it looks bad currently

[lapis kindle]

we can just use the original side images if you want the in-game look

[dusty quail]

the main thing I brought up was the contrast (or lack of) between the colours of default skins and the colour of the background we currently have

[heavy gale]

yeah, the background + the grey of the vanilla skins of most the guns kinda just blended together which fish is trying to fix

[dusty quail]

the drop shadow was a sort of attempt at making it stand out a bit more

[heavy gale]

true however it nice to have it transparent as it allows us to just edit the background without having to continuously upload new pictures

[lapis kindle]

yes i'm aware of that

-- i meant the background color you can just pick it from there

[heavy gale]

oh right, yeah

[lapis kindle]

are the drop shadows added in CSS?

[dusty quail]

no they are new images, unfortunately

I don't know if you can easily do it in CSS

oh you can

[heavy gale]

drop shadow is quite easy in CSS however not sure how it works with images

like does it actually do the image or the content in a transparent png

[lapis kindle]

well, if y'all including drop shadows then i'd recommend applying it to the existing .pngs instead of uploading new ones with backgrounds -- 'cuz that defies the purpose

[dusty quail]

I was being inefficient earlier, yeah.

Did not realise that the older images could be easily recovered (and not rewritten forever)

[lapis kindle]

also, i'd recommend sending screenshots of Previews before pushing updates for these aesthetic updates

i just reloaded and now there's a diff BG color

[dusty quail]

Can you preview a different page when you are changing a template?

[lapis kindle]

not that i'm aware

[dusty quail]

also yeah I will leave it there for today, feel free to revert the colour back to earlier

[heavy gale]

sadly not, I would say edit my test wiki however someone managed to forget to pay the VPS bill and it died (me, I forgot)

[lapis kindle]

i'm realizing not all Weapons have the Side View uploaded

[dusty quail]

Luke is on that I think

I barely changed it in the end

but I think this makes the gun stand out a bit better

[lapis kindle]

my vouch is for original in-game Light Grey and no drop shadow

[static light]

now put a single pixel of #206888 in the bottom left

[dusty quail]

which is in-game Light Grey?

[lapis kindle]

it's a gradient of cool Light Grey, but you can check #a7b1bf

[sweet locust]

Fish stick

[heavy gale]

well, I've added all the side pictures (some were already uploaded of course) we have (AKM, LH1, M11, M23GL, R357, SA1216, SAWNOFF, V9S, Sniper)

all the others we don't have side pictures of

[dusty quail]

Is there any particular reason why Drop shadow is a no-go for you?

('it don't like how it looks' is still incredibly valid)

[heavy gale]

we can do a wiki team talk tomorrow and then at least we'll hear what everyone thinks about what and what changes they think should be added

[dusty quail]

honestly I'm terrible at team stuff 😭 I will bend to anyone's will, can't finalise anything unless everyone is happy

@lapis kindle a fan or nah?

[lapis kindle]

yes, i am a fan like i said. but that’s just me. it’s how it looks in-game, it shows the weapons’ profile and details without the need of anything else

[dusty quail]

There definitely is no need for Dropshadow at this shade

[lapis kindle]

the main reason i don’t like Drop Shadow is because it’s outdated. generally for these images, it’s better to have an actual shadow of the object rather than the generated one by the default effect – and that’d be if we were to have some readability issues

[heavy gale]

on a different note (still in terms of infoboxes), should we rotate the knife to it's side for the infobox image? https://www.thefinals.wiki/wiki/Assassin's_Dagger#/media/File:KNIFE_-_STANDARD_ISSUE.png

and the same as the sledgehammer and the sword (once we get sword images)

[dusty quail]

yee

like 30 degrees or so

[heavy gale]

I was thinking more like just 90 degrees so it actually fits properly

[lapis kindle]

i think that’s a good idea – so users see the entirety of the weapon

[dusty quail]

ohh ngl I was thinking of this

[dusty quail]

that makes a lot more sense

do we wanna flip it so the text is the right way up?

[heavy gale]

would it be worth having the blade facing towards the left?

[dusty quail]

also possible

[lapis kindle]

ye, the Logo should be readable like in the other weapons

[shell mauve]

And upside down?

[dusty quail]

https://www.thefinals.wiki/wiki/AKM

I updated the AKM image so that it has more room

but the image doesn't seem to be updated?

I changed it yesterday btw

it still hasn't updated

if you click on the image itself it will open the new one

but when you view the site (for me at least) it looks like the narrow-bordered one

[heavy gale]

try ctrl + f5 a couple times

[dusty quail]

oh crap

why does that work 😭

[heavy gale]

xD

[dusty quail]

and not closing the whole-ass browser and coming back the next day

okay I am 'previewing' some gradient changes rn

(basically pushing lots of them since I can't preview a template change)

current one

hey do y'all notice the difference in shading on some of the Side Views?

some parts will look too dark

tried my best to rectify that

[shell mauve]

yeah it is a common issue we had with multiple of these

I mean they are from the closed beta, so probably fixed by now

but good effort fixing them!

[dusty quail]

https://www.thefinals.wiki/wiki/AKM

yeah the page is stubborn though

takes a while to think about changing

but yeah like damn this is a sea of darkness

[heavy gale]

yeah, anything with a long barrel or body usually suffers from the dark effect

[lapis kindle]

yes. it's because of the in-game lighting

[dusty quail]

https://www.thefinals.wiki/wiki/M60

I hope I fixed it here

before and after

[heavy gale]

damn, nice

[dusty quail]

obviously we can redo all these once we get better angles

but for now I think this works as a quick bandaid

[stiff dove]

damn nice work yall 👍

[lone monolith]

How's the Wiki looking Wiki Yolks?

[heavy gale]

Nice name

wiki is looking good thanks to everyone

would look better with the Citizen skin though

[lone monolith]

We're working on it

[heavy gale]

I know, I know

[shell mauve]

Kyne your name spooked me

[lone monolith]

ngl

I forgot I changed it as a joke for Yasine LMAO

[shell mauve]

I thought they already got new mods

[lone monolith]

Nah, but Soon™️

Remember if you need anything for the Wiki just pester me and I can get to pestering

[shell mauve]

haha, aye aye

[lone monolith]

This award should go to that 1 mf at valve that did not manage to center the hamburger menu on steam’s mobile website

The offset is plentiful

[sage badge]

ew

[lone monolith]

I should like uh do that whole skin desc update thing I planned to do sometime ago

I apologise for not doing it earlier, I had doing to be done within that timeframe

I mean I kinda still have but it’s not as plentiful

I sincerely hope it stays that way

It's alright nobody is expected to do anything

Although I would ask you to keep this channel related to the Wiki, not Steam design oversights.

Yeah I got sidetracked by a reply to another message

[heavy gale]

As Kyne said, you're not expected to do anything and the fact that you are helping is awesome

also I uploaded the other skin variants for the rest of the light weapons which I will add to the weapon tables when I'm not lazy

[shell mauve]

awesome ❤️

I feel like I have taken a way too long break but I have nothing to add rn

[heavy gale]

yeah that's fair, once we get the upgrade and skin....or game release whichever comes first then we'll be back at it in full swing

[shell mauve]

for sure

[knotty rune]

In the meantime you guys can work on the EE page... 😇

[heavy gale]

that's a cursed page, only @lone monolith deals with it

[shell mauve]

I can cleanse the EE page for you @knotty rune

[lone monolith]

https://www.thefinals.wiki/wiki/Level_One:_THE_COMMENCE

I just have literally no idea how to format it

[shell mauve]

ok that page is pretty good

[lone monolith]

I spent 4 hours on it

[heavy gale]

we need TabberNeue 👀

[shell mauve]

We need a dedicated moolah button

[lone monolith]

Went through 3 drafts of it

https://www.thefinals.wiki/wiki/Level_Two:_THE_PROMISE I've got T1A almost done aswell

[shell mauve]

I can't believe I'm doing this..

I'm actually writing Esbjorn's origin story on the holy hunters page..

[lone monolith]

That's what I said this morning when I started working on another Twitter Page

More on that later

[heavy gale]

Twitter page? 👀

[shell mauve]

https://tenor.com/view/nervous-dr-randall-mindy-leonardo-dicaprio-dont-look-up-breathing-heavily-gif-24584639

[heavy gale]

what's the first twitter page you made?

[lone monolith]

Mine

[heavy gale]

gonna need a link to that chief

[lone monolith]

Which one

Mine? It's linked in my account lol

[heavy gale]

both 👀

also never heard of twitter pages

[lone monolith]

That's just what I call it lol

[heavy gale]

ah

[lone monolith]

It's just an account

[shell mauve]

ok I made a start of Esbjorn's origin.. I would almost suggest me pinging him so he can confirm I am totally accurate about it all

I don't really know what to put under examples since he probably made or was involved with every visual thus far.

Omg I forgot to log in >.>

This happens to me so often

[knotty rune]

I think the examples section was copied from the SR one, but it should show the meme being acknowledged by him or the community

[lapis kindle]

no thanks

[lapis kindle]

interesting

[lone monolith]

Hello Presidente

[shell mauve]

I can't believe I actually contibuted to it.. even if its just a tiny slither..

I'm disgusted by myself

[heavy gale]

the SPEAR man

[lone monolith]

me joining SPEARS server just so I can throw his emotes back to him

[manic reef]

just stealcopy them

[heavy gale]

all light skin variants are finally on the wiki, just need to do the @lone monolith additions and everything to the tables

also, added knife to it's side on the infobox for https://www.thefinals.wiki/wiki/Assassin's_Dagger

the question is, should we rotate all the knife skins -90 degrees in the table

[shell mauve]

That is a valid question

What is your opinion?

[heavy gale]

I think it may look better that way and it will also be more consistent if we do that with the sword (once we get the sword images)

[shell mauve]

Oh yeah… the sword images… @tropic fjord gentle reminder to poke Rob again

But yeah sure! Maybe consider 45 degrees too?

[heavy gale]

true, could try 45

[stiff dove]

I just shortened _notcraft's notes on https://www.thefinals.wiki/wiki/M60 a bit to make the table looks less overwhelming

[heavy gale]

also you can probably delete this bit now

[stiff dove]

basically just removed the first part of the sentences to make it more like a bullet-point

[stiff dove]

oh yeah lol

[heavy gale]

I added a 45 degree angle and a 90 degree angle

https://www.thefinals.wiki/wiki/Assassin's_Dagger

choose which is best

tbf 45 degree might look better if I remove the 90 degrees one

[stiff dove]

hmmm..., I think I like the 45 degree one

[lapis kindle]

45 for sure

but i don't mind 90

[shell mauve]

yeah 45 degree is good

[heavy gale]

cool cool, I'll change the knifes to be 45 degrees on the tables

[dusty quail]

https://www.thefinals.wiki/wiki/V9S

hehe I like the infobox

[heavy gale]

infobox does look good, aye, you did a great job with the background gradient

[sour laurel]

found this other ''the finals'' wiki https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Finals# 😆

[heavy gale]

ours is better xD

[sour laurel]

it was made in march

[heavy gale]

to be fair I think there's a few different wikis knocking about made by other players before the embark backed one got fully announced/made

[lapis kindle]

no surprise there. that was around the same time the Fandom one was made - when the CB was coming to an end

[heavy gale]

added the 45 degree angle knives to https://www.thefinals.wiki/wiki/Assassin's_Dagger

[static light]

looks sick, nice job

[real stirrup]

They look great!

[shell mauve]

I have a question. Would it be possible that at a later point when there are more skins that have fun backstories (like the sticky business and lollipop sledgehammer) that instead of having a separate paragraph, we get a little mouse hovering textbox

[heavy gale]

That'll be possible

[lone monolith]

Do we still need the sword skins, but not the sledgehammer skins?

[heavy gale]

aye, we still need sword skins

the sledgehammer ones I guess we are fine with unless we want the FULL sledgehammer in the pics

[shell mauve]

I have been pinging Beau for it but if you can poke* Rob, that would be great @lone monolith

[lone monolith]

There will be no strangling lol

I will poke tho

[heavy gale]

also on the note of sledgehammer

45 degree angle? https://www.thefinals.wiki/wiki/Sledgehammer

[shell mauve]

Poking is fine

I think its fine as is!

[heavy gale]

[vagrant compass]

Let's be a little lighter on the language even in a joking way

[shell mauve]

Haha sorry.. I’ll adjust it! It’s plainly obvious I have zero filters in my daily life sometimes

[vagrant compass]

Doesn't help that "violent" language has been normalized in online spaces as just banter, so i gotchu, but better to keep away from it

[shell mauve]

I understand!

It is one of my biggest oversights that I do not read things that might be a little inappropriate/derogatory out of context

Anyway, to move on-topic, any news on the version update of the wiki?

[vagrant compass]

I'm not aware of any atm, I can poke around

[heavy gale]

I'm gonna expect the answer to be something of: Wiki service still playing us around

[dusty quail]

🙏

[dusty quail]

Oh no...

[dusk umbra]

What happened 😰

[dusty quail]

A lot more work

😭

[heavy gale]

we got a lot of wiki work to do

[shell mauve]

Hope so haha

[lapis kindle]

https://tenor.com/view/first-time-meme-first-time-the-ballad-of-buster-scruggs-gif-24656975

[sweet locust]

Yup

[dusty quail]

Okay so Rockhound says there are new weapons for each class

And plenty of new skins

[sweet locust]

So I can do the medium stuff

[dusty quail]

Heavy main 💪

[lapis kindle]

from the Press Release
New weapons

**○ XP-54: **this tactical submachine gun has a slower firing rate compared to the M11, but compensates with enhanced damage and accuracy for those long-range engagements. Available to the Light Body Build.

○ FCAR: a tactical assault rifle with slower firing rate compared to the AKM, but offers improved accuracy over long distances. Available to Medium Body Builds.

○ Lewis Gun: this LMG has a lower rate of fire compared to the M60, but compensates with enhanced damage and accuracy over longer distances. Available to Heavy Body Builds.

[shell mauve]

Oh boy

[dusty quail]

Oh crap

[shell mauve]

I hope my pc is stable enough to make screenshots

Otherwise I’ll limit myself to copywriting if thats needed

[dry skiff]

LEWIS GUN LES GOO

[dusty quail]

You should post that in main chat haha

Ppl would love that

[sweet locust]

I can try to ask kunai if she wants to help with the lights

Cuz idk if any of us here play light.....

[lapis kindle]

we now have 3 wiki supporters in the Mod Team

[dusty quail]

Also a small addition but the ORBITAL LASER WORLD EVENT as something to add

[shell mauve]

Haha that just shows how valuable the wiki is

[lapis kindle]

ye the Fact Sheet essentially has the main updates

[stiff dove]

here the Fact-sheet: https://drive.google.com/file/d/15pbmdPIFAIr918ITVJ-5WDWT-hwsOJG5/view?usp=sharing

[manic reef]

time to go hard in ranked

[lapis kindle]

these are the CB2 pages, in case people can't/won't check the link

[stiff dove]

continuously improving the experience not only in the wiki, but in this chat too ☝️

[manic reef]

y'all get ready taking photos and stuff

[lone monolith]

Just a heads up

We've been saying Mid-Match modifers to descibe the events in the map

The actual phrase is Game Show Events

[stiff dove]

hell yeah, I was always wondering what the "official" term for these events was

[stone river]

oh my god this laser event is so cool

[dusty quail]

rip camping or sniping

[stone river]

who said you need to stand still to snipe 😎😎

[lone monolith]

Deer you've met your maker

[shell mauve]

I bet they made this after a dev got matched up with or against Deer

[stone river]

was controller support announced for this one? curious to try mine

[twilit pine]

Bro how am i supposed to get to diamond in a week

[shell mauve]

Guys, this is the wiki chat, not a discussion chat

[twilit pine]

like seriously. How is that even possible?
If the progression is the same as in CB1 it will be quite impossible

[twilit pine]

You are right

[lone monolith]

I've updated both of them to be their offical terms.

Game Show Events and Map Variants

[shell mauve]

updated weapons pages

[patent seal]

This is so dope, great work guys!

[wintry linden]

I've always loved the suspended buildings, bc I was one of the people to get an accelerated prop-boost going off of it, and proceed to fly around the map at mach 17

[shell mauve]

I wonder if that’ll still be possible

[static light]

should i bother adding infoboxes for the new weapons, or are we still waiting for a wiki update/reskin?

[shell mauve]

Sure

Gonna be blank for some time but when its done its done

[static light]

i tried centering the team logos on the gameplay page, lmk what yall think
also added more to the Specializations page

[vernal ridge]

they did patch out prop surfing if i recall correctly

i think they set a speed limit so you can still technically prop surf but wont go mach 17 any more

but that could all be different this beta

[zenith ravine]

what if they increase it

[sour laurel]

This is the wiki channel not a discussion channel

[shell mauve]

Is there a page for the leagues?

[dusty quail]

Should there be?

[shell mauve]

Idk it seems to become pretty significant

[soft wolf]

GONE baby

[vernal ridge]

damn

[sour laurel]

THIS THE WIKI CHANNEL NOT A DISCUSSION CHANNEL

[dusty quail]

where is the beta discussion

[agile prairie]

Where do I get the contestant role :?

[heavy gale]

Not the right channel for this however you're Rising Star which means you are a level higher than Contestant.

[agile prairie]

oh mb didn´t even want to post it in here, thank you for the info, thought rising star is just a rank you get when you type alot haha

[lone monolith]

still a wip on this one

[red hollow]

I didn't know that there is a Wikipedia

[shell mauve]

Oh yeah, and we worked very hard on it thusfar 😉

[dusty quail]

Can you guys add a new build.. Medium-Heavy

The Body and Health of a Heavy with the Loadout and Abilities of a Medium...

[shell mauve]

Uhu..

[lone monolith]

what lmao

Working on renaming all instances of repeater to Model 1887

[static light]

i changed the text of the other renamed weapons, but the page name is still the old one and idk how to do a redirect thing

[lone monolith]

I'll go ahead and do that in a bit

[crisp compass]

Monaco i thin is really good!!gj! Seol i think (but its just my opinion) the areas are a bit to big 🤔

[west kiln]

Something that i think need to be added is detailed videos showcasing all the inspect animations and reloads of all the weapons with a model difference from the original.

This is because back in cb1 i spent hours to no avail to find animations for certain legendary grade weapon reloads, particularly the OMINOUS OSTHYVEL assassin dagger skin,and i think having as much animstios as possible to make the process much less tedious.

You could also do this for poses but i think having the "key pose" as a photo would be sufficient

Also the new assassin dagger skin released from CB2 isn't here, so i assume the other new skins aren't there as well

[shell mauve]

We will add that skin asap

The flip-out flayer

[west kiln]

thx

[lapis kindle]

we have inspect animations for all the weapons except the new ones, i don’t think we got to upload them #📂┇the-finals-wiki message

we’d just need to do those skin variations i think

[shell mauve]

I want to ask for a plugin to allow little popups because those skins have stories behind them and we will get more and more of those

Now the story of the osthyvel already takes quite some space..

[west kiln]

if its worth waiting till release then thats fine

just thought i'd mention it

[shell mauve]

No absolutely 🙂 and I appreciate your alertness!

The wiki is still very limited because we mostly know what everyone knows and sometimes get some answers to questions that give us some extra info 🙂 but we do try to keep it up to date!

The CMs and mods can sometimes get answers from the devs 😄

[west kiln]

is the wiki open to be edited btw?

[shell mauve]

Yes, we do prefer good communication though 🙂

To avoid work being undone

[shell mauve]

this is unfortunately the only angle available

also I

I'm pretyty sure the charm thing is on the wrong spot

[static light]

added the map pictures that we got from the MTM to their respective pages

[shell mauve]

Sweet!

[shell mauve]

"kinetic affordance"

#kineticaffordance™️

https://tenor.com/view/raccoon-writing-taking-down-notes-insomnia-homework-gif-11670309

@golden laurel is MTM recorded/transcribed in one way?

[dusk umbra]

Omg i hope it is 😭😭

[dusty quail]

I really wanna catch up on that

Hope it's published soon

[charred tartan]

same

[tall lintel]

yeah the art/anim talks really interest me and i’m so sad i’m missing them

[dusty quail]

damn timezones..

[lone monolith]

You don't have the game?

[tall lintel]

nono im playing the beta

[lone monolith]

ooh makes sense

was about to gift you a key lmfao

[knotty rune]

I added the SR.! spray to the most important page on the wiki... 😛

For those new (welcome btw) wondering "what is the most important page on the wiki?":
https://www.thefinals.wiki/wiki/Church_Of_The_Holy_Hunters

[heavy gale]

[lone monolith]

interesting

[lone monolith]

Ohhh where is it?

[lone monolith]

SR.!

[knotty rune]

SR.!

[manic reef]

easter egg channel is leaking

[glossy marsh]

Any idea if the weapon stats will be added to the wiki?
I'm looking for damage, range and dps values if possible 👀

[static light]

i've been working on some weapon stats, its a slow process ! 😅

[glossy marsh]

Yeah I know haha
I did full stats for Bloodhunt myself!

Much easier if devs can confirm some things like fire rate and range which are time consuming to test and can be inaccurate

[static light]

exactly! feel free to add to the wiki of you want, we could use the help!

[glossy marsh]

I don't have a lot of spare time at the moment unfortunately 😅

This is what I made for Bloodhunt's weapons in case someone wants to use a similar layout...
https://bit.ly/BHstats

I ended up making a table of TTKs and shots to kill at the top which helped when comparing weapons, but I think at least these stats should be included:

torso damage
headshot damage
fire rate
DPS
max damage range before drop off
attack range for melee weapons

[manic reef]

they could be added but it's hard to figure out exact numbers without a friend being on an opposing team

[glossy marsh]

I know the pain!

[wary flicker]

we could gater 9 peeps on the server to launch at the same time with all the weapons 👀

[manic reef]

There's always pixel measurements on bars of health that each amount to 25 hp per segment

Surely nobody would go through that trouble

https://tenor.com/view/clueless-gif-24395495

[wary flicker]

i think it is easier like that tbh lmao

[shell mauve]

I won’t be able to make screenshots this time around

We have to do some namechanges too

The repeater is the model 1887, the sniper is called the SR-84 and the short shotty also got a new name

[dusk coral]

The people who want to buff the fcar are insane

Me watching my teamates get 0 objectives

[manic reef]

Excuse me sir this channel is for talking about the wiki

[dusk coral]

Mb

[static light]

added damage values for all of the weapons, not 100% sure about all of them but i will do more testing soon.

[heavy gale]

Awesome work

[tepid knoll]

adding some additional information about ranks and FP to the tournament page

If I can get someone to fact check in a min that would be based, im not done just yet

Ok all done if I can get someone to check it

.

Fame Points
Fame Points (FP) are gained and lost based on when the team is knocked out of the tournament, or wins. [This current information is for closed beta 2 and the 3 tier tournament system]: The amount of FP gained and lost is dependant on your rank, with each full rank giving between -50 or +50 FP decrease/increase dependant on when you get knocked out. The baseline FP Gain / Loss is listed below:

Round 1 knock out:

4th: -100 FP (-50 Per rank)
3rd: -50 FP (-50 Per rank)
Round 2 knock out:

4th: +50 FP (-25 Per rank)
3rd: +100 FP (+25 Per rank)
Final Round:

Runner up: 600FP (+50 Per Rank)
Winners: 1000FP (+50 Per Rank)
Ranks
There are 5 ranks in THE FINALS as of CB2, These being Bronze, Silver, Gold, Platinum, and Diamond. Each of these ranks give different special and exclusive seasonal rewards. Each rank consists of 4 sub-ranks, for example Bronze 4, Bronze 3, Bronze 2, and Bronze 1. Each of these is 1250 FP (Fame Points) apart with the player starting at Bronze 4. When sub-rank 1 is achieved and an additional 1250 FP is gained the rank of the player is promoted to the next rank, for example silver to gold, or platinum to diamond. When a new rank is achieved you can not be demoted to the previous rank in that season, however between seasons the players rank may be adjusted or reset.

.

This is what I added^^^

Some of the FP numbers may be wrong, this is just what I believe it is, and may not be correct, but this theory follows all of the games I have played so far

[tepid knoll]

Added a couple photos too

[lone monolith]

@tepid knoll Which page is this on?

[static light]

https://www.thefinals.wiki/wiki/Cashout_mode#Tournament_&_Ranked_Tournament_Modes

[manic reef]

I'd just like to point out that dagger backstab damage on heavy got reduced when heavy hp got nerfed, yet it wasn't documented in the patch notes back then
So it might not even be a flat number

[shell mauve]

Good writing, but there is some conflicting information so we need to do a sweep to correct it to the CB2 situation. Not one team but two are eliminated and there are only three rounds during CB2. I know the full structure will be back at launch so maybe we can park that somewhere in the backend

Also it doesn’t describe the added penalty as you rank up.

[heavy gale]

Talking about that wiki page, what did you want me to look at relating to the table?

[tepid knoll]

just the FP rank stuff

[tepid knoll]

it does unless your talking about something else

[shell mauve]

Ah you’re right.. I didn’t see the brackets

[tepid knoll]

is it correct though? like im pretty sure thats how the rank changes it

but i could be wrong

[shell mauve]

Uh.. pretty sure for diamond everything is a punishment haha

[lone monolith]

Can we remove these blank spots

[heavy gale]

I'll see what I can do

[static light]

Interesting, thanks for pointing that out

[heavy gale]

I have taken a picture of every light weapon skin for the wiki

and I'll look at the table thing tomorrow (today)

[tepid knoll]

made it look a bit nicer

I put the win condition as a part of the game rules, as it technicaly is one

[lapis kindle]

send them my way to create the PNGs

[stiff dove]

Here are pictures of all Lewis Gun skins (cut, uncut and visible UI versions included)

handing it to SPEAR to do his magic

[sage star]

hoo a wiki link saved

[heavy gale]

I'll send over everything I have tonight, need to rename the images to actually have a skin name

[tepid knoll]

Does anything else need to be done?

[heavy gale]

probably more detail in https://www.thefinals.wiki/wiki/XP-54 if you have anything to add for it 👀

[tepid knoll]

Sadly not, although i could say stuff like it was included in the second beta patch, but there would be nothing of actual substance for me to add

Also Luke do you mind me asking at what rank the “finalist” role is given? There is no talk about role rank in the server FAQ page

[heavy gale]

rank 15, 3955 XP

[tepid knoll]

Ty

[shell mauve]

Its in the #👋┇welcome part of the discord

I will do copywriting later so no worries

[lapis kindle]

here are the PNGs for the Lewis Gun skins

[stiff dove]

Wonderful, thank you! I will put them later or tomorrow into the wiki

[heavy gale]

@lapis kindle XP54 skins

[lapis kindle]

PNGs here

[heavy gale]

legend

[heavy gale]

@lapis kindle FCAR skins

[lapis kindle]

PNGs here!

[heavy gale]

awesome, I'll chuck them on the wiki at some point

can you also make this transparent please (grabbed from infobox on wiki)

[lapis kindle]

do we have the Lewis and FCAR as well?

[heavy gale]

grabbed from wiki

thank you whoever put these on the info boxes

and lewis gun (not exactly a side view due to being cut off)

[lapis kindle]

Side Views for new guns from CB2

[lone monolith]

Lovely

[sweet locust]

sheeesh

[undone rune]

what needs to be done for the wiki

[undone rune]

what software do u use?

[lapis kindle]

just some classic manual work on PS

[undone rune]

adobe?

[lapis kindle]

ye ✅

[undone rune]

oke 👌

[static light]

added a little bit to the WR page

[lone monolith]

@lapis kindle Hey do you remember what the Steamroller brand is?

[lapis kindle]

they have signs on buildings in Seoul

and there’s a Steamrollers team in-game

that’s all i have

[lone monolith]

Thank you

[lapis kindle]

sure thing, wether or not they’re related remains to be seen

[static light]

new page just dropped https://www.thefinals.wiki/wiki/Playtests

[lone monolith]

I don't believe there were any new weapons in CB1

[lapis kindle]

nice, where does this page live?

[static light]

There's only one link to it on the main page right now

[lapis kindle]

just saw it

[marsh granite]

on Monaco, what are interactable cannons?

[sour laurel]

the canons at the courtyard

[marsh granite]

they were interactable?? missed that

[sour laurel]

yes, you could fire them at the buildings

[static light]

you can take damage from them if you stand in front too

[manic reef]

ok but that's an extremely rare occurence

[vagrant compass]

TIL

[shell mauve]

Haha you kids, talking about the crippled versions of what it was in the alpha

[lone monolith]

Haha you kids, talking about the crippled versions of what it was in the alpha

[lone monolith]

Haha you kids, talking about the crippled versions of what it was in the alpha

[silent hawk]

Haha you kids, talking about the crippled versions of what it was in the alpha

[tall quarry]

Haha you kids, talking about the crippled versions of what it was in the alpha

[coarse lily]

question mark ? ^

[heavy gale]

@lapis kindle can you PNGify all these m11 skins

[lapis kindle]

done. they don't have their skin names, just used the nomenclature they already had

[heavy gale]

thank you, I'll sort out the weapon names on them

[fathom lotus]

Do we have a page containing all egg stickers?

[sweet locust]

i think we gonna wait until we get all stickers

[heavy gale]

finally added table for XP54 skins https://www.thefinals.wiki/wiki/XP-54

still need to add the description for skins but yeah

[stiff dove]

ahhh yes, I shall do it for the Lewis Gun too,

tomorrow I think

[heavy gale]

I've finally added the FCAR skins to the page https://www.thefinals.wiki/wiki/FCAR

[lapis kindle]

awesome. lmk if you need the side views full length

i left the original bleed

[surreal trout]

Added the best gun I c

[stiff dove]

TOMORROW I SWEAR

[heavy gale]

I can do it for you if you want, I don't mind

[stiff dove]

Noooo
just kidding, I didn't think of doing it until today, either gonna do it tonight when I'm home or tomorrow

[heavy gale]

do it tomorrow, relax tonight

we're not in a rush, we got time

[shell mauve]

The wiki doesn’t need to be rushed

Quality over quantity:3

[heavy gale]

[manic reef]

Not like we'll get more content soon anyway

[knotty rune]

One more Tier to add to the Wiki 😅

[cobalt dust]

yo is there a model or picture of the diamond sledgehammer? I didnt take a screenshot of it when the game was up

[lone monolith]

We don't have an in game screenshot of it or anything since it probably doesn't exist at the moment.

[alpine mountain]

We have this from the tutorial guessing it was scrapped in favour for the hammer (bit a trivia to add ig)

[final girder]

if that was thje reward i would've played like i was living in a basement

[alpine mountain]

i did

all for a hammer

[patent moon]

I wonder if it had something to do with lighting or smth, like the it was TOO shiny or something, the hummer is much less in your face since you can't ADS a hammer lol

but thats just a theory
a THE FINALS theory

[manic reef]

or could be the fact that one of the rewards was an AK skin as well

[patent moon]

was there another ak skin at the time? I kinda doubt they'd put 2 skins for 1 gun as rewards in the same pool I'd be willing to bet the ak was made into that yellow skin and swapped out with the hammer or some other weapon

[manic reef]

i think it was the bronze reward

[patent moon]

intriguing

[manic reef]

diamond gadget skin when kek

[patent moon]

diamond turret

[manic reef]

diamond barricade

[patent moon]

nah that'd be op diamond is tough as hell

[manic reef]

but diamond turret wouldn't be? 🤭

[patent moon]

wait I have an idea, if we agree they're both not op they'll get added to the game and we'll both be happy

[manic reef]

yeah they're not op idk wat ur talking about

[patent moon]

🤝

[stiff dove]

Images and descriptions for the Lewis Gun skins have been uploaded on the wiki now https://www.thefinals.wiki/wiki/Lewis_Gun

[sweet locust]

[shell mauve]

That would be legit cheating haha

Can you imagine if it actually gets the properties of the material!?

The Cardboard sniper gets all soggy during rainy games

[patent moon]

you try to shoot and it all just crumples

[manic reef]

diamond hammer boutta one shot walls with left click

[shell mauve]

Can you imagine just yeeting the hammer into the cashout and you get an instant cool 10 million

(I know its worth more but still)

[sweet locust]

Can we get a diamond grenade skin

[heavy gale]

[tropic fjord]

@alpine mountain Please please please don't tag developers.

[alpine mountain]

oh sorr

was just curious

[tropic fjord]

You can send us any questions over at #📧┇contact-us

And we'll try to bridge it if an answer can be acquired

[alpine mountain]

is it down?

[tropic fjord]

Nope.

[alpine mountain]

not working for me

[tropic fjord]

Do you have DMs open?

[alpine mountain]

actually i might be dumb

yeah you right

[static light]

https://the-finals.fandom.com/wiki/THE_FINALS_Wiki is this official or just some random people making it?

[sweet locust]

Cheeseburger

[heavy gale]

It was some random person making it

I think they stopped adding to it once the official wiki got announced

[static light]

huh... it would be nice if the domain was available to use, fandom is what most games use for their wiki

[heavy gale]

As far as I remember in terms of fandom, we didn't go with them because they have a set style and you can't really change from that

and we get custom extensions

[shell mauve]

And I think its also due to ads

Fandom is designed around monetization

With those obscure automatic ad reels

[manic reef]

i hate the bottom areas of fandom and ads

[lone monolith]

Embark went with their own wiki because they want it to be community run without ads.

[worthy pivot]

common embark W

[grave owl]

W

[lone monolith]

We are working on making it look a bit better, but all things come with time.

[dusty quail]

it's been 84 years since the wiki redesign was floated..

👴

[heavy gale]

it will get there

[lone monolith]

Believe me we're about as tired of trying to get it there as you guys are

[dusty quail]

it's fiine

they have other priorities

and we will probably have to rewrite most of our stuff anyways

[lone monolith]

It is not on our end

[compact talon]

the wiki could literally be 2 colors and made by a 5 year old and it would still be better to use than fandom

[shell mauve]

Well thanks to the talented community including the mods who have a short line with Embark we can make the best wiki. Period!

[compact talon]

🙏

[lone monolith]

Hello I've done a couple of changes to the main page:

• Simplified the intro section and removed the mentions of the previous playtests as we have a page for that now.
• Removed the reference section at the bottom, and moved the about us to be nested in the intro section.
• Rephrased the Arenas description to use the right terms and link to the gameplay page.
• Renamed Game Modes to Game Elements.

[shell mauve]

Nice, its all coming together!

I was thinking… is it maybe handy dandy to put a little disclaimer on the top to clarify that the wiki is based on general knowledge and not the finished product, which could mean there is a chance that some information is outdated or incomplete?