#📂┇the-finals-wiki

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heavy gale
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yeah, the light grey for the table is a lot nicer

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and back to normal

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all colours being in a single file for the citizen skin

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useful af

shell mauve
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What about making the heading The Finals Yellow

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only the heading

heavy gale
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as in the "Main page"? or the table header?

shell mauve
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the "main page" thing yeah

heavy gale
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can we pin the "brand colours" post ?

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it's annoying trying to find the image file in my downloads everytime

lone monolith
lone monolith
heavy gale
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well that changed all the headings to yellow but that should give you an idea

shell mauve
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I dont see nothin

heavy gale
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you may need to ctrl + f5 a couple of times

shell mauve
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yeah.. tis not bad

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kinda fits the aestethic because the gun in thepicture has a similar design

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Me like

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can we make the lines in the table slightly lighter? and probably all the text a shade or so too

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both on the top and the regular text

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just by a shade or so

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I feel its slightly too contrast poor

knotty rune
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Not sure if you guys check the EE channel, so I'll post it here, since I guess it's a good bit of info for the wiki:

"...6 Embarkers on the 6th floor for 6 months..." That's how THE FINALS started (Or "Project Discovery", back then)

It was mentioned by Rob on the press event, before the beta release

shell mauve
knotty rune
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(It wasn't an EE thing, but it might have become relevant to the EE now, that's why we shared it)

sweet locust
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im scared of the ee channel

lone monolith
sweet locust
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i looked in there once and had nightmares

heavy gale
heavy gale
knotty rune
# lone monolith

"That's how THE FINALS started (Or "Project Discovery", back then)" that part was just me giving context. And I'm not sure if the quote is exact, I don't remember exactly how he said it, but the numbers match 😛

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(You can leave it like that, I just want to make sure you know the whole thing behind that)

lone monolith
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We'll leave it since well, we don't know exactly what he said and I don't think anyone is gonna notice lulz

shell mauve
lapis kindle
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the darkmode and such is looking great for a mockup

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we'll definitely get there soon, and it'll feel more like RTF

lone monolith
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It's using the star citizen skin right?

heavy gale
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yeah, v1

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can't use v2 as it only works on 1.39

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we are on 1.35

lone monolith
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Couuuuld you

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Make a ticket explaining all of this hug_friend

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And we'll work on it

shell mauve
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Hahaha

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well @subtle quest got Sc because of this so you did something

knotty rune
heavy gale
lone monolith
lapis kindle
heavy gale
lone monolith
sweet locust
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I've lost track of time

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How long have we've been working on the wiki for

heavy gale
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just today or the whole time?

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as I made my first edit on the 28th March

sweet locust
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Whole time

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Damn we work fast

heavy gale
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sent a ticket @lone monolith

lone monolith
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I saw. Thank you hug_friend

lapis kindle
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ospuze

frosty wren
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the first ever finals diamond players should be saved on the wiki 😳

manic reef
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why though

final token
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Isn’t that like 500 players

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TTV.Zemphorp. 4990 oof

shell mauve
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?

twilit bear
# manic reef why though

For reference of people that had a ton of free time to grind over the 2 days it was unlocked. Obviously.

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That way we know who was SERIOUS about it. Clearly the best of the best gamers.

manic reef
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much sarcasm

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i enjoy

shell mauve
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yeah no

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we're not going to do that

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they are already getting more than planned and there is the leaderboard website already

dusty quail
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gawd damn, thought it was impossible

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by the way the current wiki is looking so great!

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you guys are doing awesome

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hug_friend just wanted to say that

shell mauve
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Its pretty good ey

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group effort ;D

dusty quail
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If the hunt ever gets too dull, I'd be happy to chip in, hehe

final token
# shell mauve ?

I looked up how many players that reached 5000 fp and that player was 10 off.

manic reef
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Damn

heavy gale
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Dusty be cleaning the wiki up

shell mauve
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I’m assuming the RPG cleaning was my joking notes because I didn’t get to writing the serious bit.

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@golden laurel sorry 😦

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Wait.. you left the Light’s best friend bit in 😂

heavy gale
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yeah, the ones that got taken out were "God doesn't exist.

I thought this is my house."

shell mauve
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Oh yeah

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I mean it makes sense

heavy gale
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100% xD

shell mauve
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I didn’t mean to give Dusty more work (rather than less)

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I kinda feel bad because nearly all of the fixes were my jokes

heavy gale
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he removed my Counter strike quote from the fire grenade 😦

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also completely makes sense

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I have re-written the description for it now though PepeNoted

shell mauve
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The goo and flashbang ones were with the ok of the people I mentioned to be clear

heavy gale
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ah the cautionary note bits

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they were quite funny to have there

shell mauve
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Can someone rephrase the last sentence of the Healing beam maybe

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I am in bed and my phone won’t let me

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In the SnW

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Maybe remove it all together

heavy gale
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I've removed it for now

shell mauve
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As suggesting division is probably also not great.

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And idk where I did the thanos reference but maybe remove that too haha

heavy gale
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ah the defib one

shell mauve
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Yeah

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I really don’t want to be a nuisance to Dusty 😦 I’d rather be remembered for the good copy rather than the jokes

heavy gale
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I'm sure it wasn't much of a nuisance for Dusty

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she was probably just going through most pages and checking them out while laughing

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and being like "probably shouldn't have that actually PepeLaughing "

shell mauve
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Maybe but we are also trying to defend being backed by embark

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The LH1 joke was totally legit imho

heavy gale
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I mean, it was a very true thing kekw

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removed the thanos bit from defib

shell mauve
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Good.

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Thanks bud

heavy gale
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I haven't really done much today in terms of wiki, I might have a look at a few gadgets tonight before sleeping

shell mauve
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Haha man I think we moved mountains already

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Can’t wait for the themes

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We’re over halfway there

heavy gale
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yeah, a nice dark theme would be nice to work on most the day

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I've sent an eggmail saying can we get this theme and also upgrade to 1.39

shell mauve
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Theres just a ton of gadgets

heavy gale
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and some reasons why we (Kyne or CMs) could really use SFTP access

shell mauve
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I mean it can also be someone who just has extensive wiki knowledge.

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Whatever moves us the fastest

heavy gale
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yeah, just anyone who is trusted enough with SFTP would be good

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just allows us to make on the fly changes to themes and also add extensions when needed

heavy gale
shell mauve
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Yeah..

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You only notice how little variety you have when you see how few gadgets you can actually describe reliably

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I will do the RPG and frag grenade and probably the jump pads

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I have seen enough of those to write something proper

heavy gale
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I'll tackle glitch grenade at some point tonight

stiff dove
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I think they use https://mywikis.eu/ as a hosting service. Idk what the functionalities they offer, but maybe they have like one-click upgrading so it isn't much hassle for them to do it peepoShrug

heavy gale
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as long as it doesn't delete our image folder and database while upgrading, all is good kekw

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well if it is running on mywikis, we aint getting an update to 1.39 by the looks of it

stiff dove
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😢

heavy gale
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yeah

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it kinda seems like a rip-off tbf

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pay 5 euros extra month to get Enhanced Search (CirrusSearch), Visual Editor and Template Import Services

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Enhanced Search (CirrusSearch) is a free extension

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Visual Editor, comes with mediawiki

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Template import services, comes with mediawiki xD

stiff dove
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waitt it says "custom extensions", so i guess the extensions we have right now are not custom, and they refer to custom as in own developed extensions? idk

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might be still eligible? we gotta have to ask Dusty I guess?

heavy gale
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we'll see what they say once they get notified of my eggmail

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considering that asks about upgrading to 1.39

stiff dove
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oh right, didn't know

heavy gale
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1.35 works fine tbf, just want 1.39 for some other extensions that only work on 1.39 but aren't like "omg we need it"

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and for the updated version of the citizen skin

stiff dove
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yeah

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would be cool, but not the end of the world

lone monolith
heavy gale
heavy gale
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I decided to have at a look at mywikis, you can't even change the LocalSettings without having to contact their support and you can't even edit like files inside a skin as there is no file browser/editor, so the idea of us using the citizen skin and editing it quickly would not happen as embark would need to contact mywikis support.

We can make it work though by just editing CSS through mediawiki and hoping it will override correctly

shell mauve
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Is that the case now?

heavy gale
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well by the looks of it, the wiki is possibly hosted on mywikis

shell mauve
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Oh

sweet locust
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rip

heavy gale
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yeah, the whole thing is basically just "contact our support" to do anything like install custom extensions and skins and change settings

sweet locust
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that seems annoying but not the worst tbh

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also morning luke morning povich

heavy gale
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it's good in terms of the user can never break the install most likely

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morning 🙂

shell mauve
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Morning

stiff dove
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if you check the site html you'll see that the images are hosted on some mywikis.eu server

heavy gale
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so many gadgets to go 😄

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Did anyone actually use night vision in the game?

sweet locust
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i did

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all it did was blind me

heavy gale
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ah kekw

stiff dove
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i haven't tried it even once lol

heavy gale
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anyone got experience with the goo gun?

sweet locust
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no

stiff dove
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yeah

heavy gale
stiff dove
heavy gale
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you'll beee fine

stiff dove
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sure, but not today. need to leave in two hours. but tomorrow pepethumbsup

heavy gale
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no problem 🙂

stiff dove
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i also got at least one clip building a wall, i think i have to mute it though

heavy gale
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any kind of clip is a good clip

stiff dove
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👍

shell mauve
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Taking down a goo wall

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You can feel the heat of that picture

sweet locust
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We can use that to cook NamaTama

vagrant compass
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Pls no cooking

shell mauve
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We are RAWWW

vagrant compass
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Well, it's right in the name

heavy gale
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Infinite protein though

shell mauve
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I was actually disappointed to learn an average egg has less than 5 grams of protein

stiff dove
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chickens: am i a joke to you?

shell mauve
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Solution.. bigger eggs

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We need a “Embark’s obsession with eggs” section ngl

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I haven’t found any egg references in the Arc raiders stuff yet but not questioning it

sweet locust
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i am

vagrant compass
sweet locust
vagrant compass
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No ostrich emoji 😦

shell mauve
sweet locust
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questioning

shell mauve
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Who knows innit

sweet locust
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@heavy gale how you gonna say it can burn the gas clouds and not the foam

heavy gale
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oh yeah, kinda forgot about that

heavy gale
shell mauve
sweet locust
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same

heavy gale
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Smoke grenades can be used to get rid of the incendiary grenade flames, right?

sweet locust
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Yes

knotty rune
sweet locust
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Csgo type

knotty rune
heavy gale
shell mauve
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don't put references to other games though haha

heavy gale
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I know, learnt my lesson on that already kekw

sweet locust
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Bruh

stiff dove
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what's up peeps, I was thinking about if it wouldn't be better to change the current order of the Loadout? On the picture I have embedded (or here https://www.thefinals.wiki/wiki/Main_Page#Loadout) you can see the current order. I was thinking about putting it like this:
Builds, Specializations, Weapons, Gadgets.
Imo this would be more "in-order", what do yall think?

stiff dove
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wonderful

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i will also put a few sentences on the https://www.thefinals.wiki/wiki/Builds page describing that each class has different weapons, specializations and gadgets (although some may overlap with other classes) AND link them, so the build page may lead into weapons etc

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anyone knows how many contestants you could create (max)?

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i mean have

knotty rune
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I think 6 is the max, unless additional slots are somehow added after you fill those initial ones

stiff dove
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thank you :). let's see if someone else can confirm

lone monolith
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It's 6, but I don't know if 6 is the initital or if you get more after you make 6

stiff dove
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hmm

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i can leave it out for now

knotty rune
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Yeah, becauae I only created 5, so I don't know if you get another tab or something after that

stiff dove
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i think more than 6 would be pretty crazy already, so i'd guess no? but i think i'm gonna leave that out for now

knotty rune
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You can add it, and we can always edit it in the future

stiff dove
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yeah no need to speedrun wiki

knotty rune
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It's good to have that info. If it is correct, is good. And if it's not, it's still good because someone will fix it, but the info will be there

lone monolith
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Just leave out the limit for now

knotty rune
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You can say that "...initially there are 6 slots...". Which is correct, and leaves room for fixes

lone monolith
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Or just say that

stiff dove
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yeah naw i don't say anything I got a good sentence in my head i think, it would fuck everything up lmao

lone monolith
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"Initially there are 6 contestant slots. These can be whatever build you want"

shell mauve
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RPG

RPG is short for Rocket Propelled Grenade. The RPG Launcher is a Heavy build exclusive weapon that can be used to destroy the environment or pesky lights nosing around like its nobody's business.

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Rpg is written

sweet locust
heavy gale
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son of a biatch, the gadgets page doesn't have "Smoke Grenade" kekw

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the gadgets list just keeps growing and growing

knotty rune
sweet locust
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You guys think we are gonna get 1 billion ospuze for working on the wiki

shell mauve
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I'm okay, you can have mine.. I DONT DRINK ENERGY DRINKS D;<

supple nimbus
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Plus sponsor

heavy gale
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is the smoke grenade a light only gadget?

shell mauve
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are we sure the Frag is all classes?

sweet locust
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I don't remember

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Time to ask the finals chat

stiff dove
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we don't have overlapping specializations nor weapons between the builds right? they are all unique, only gadgets may be distributed in different builds correct?

heavy gale
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Ok, so heavys have

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can't find the medium/light ones though

shell mauve
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I used frags on my medium so I am sure of that

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but I don't remember it for heavy

heavy gale
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I used frags on light

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looks like frag is "all classes"

sweet locust
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I used it on medium before

shell mauve
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ok well frag is also written

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so what else did I say I would write?

heavy gale
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Jump Pado

stiff dove
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ok good stuff, i will use the nade as an all-class example and one more which can be used by only 2 builds. i think mine could be also used by the medium player? was it also incendiary mines? i'm not sure though

heavy gale
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The incendiary grenade is a type of tactical grenade that is used to set an area on fire which inflicts damage to players if they are in the affected area. In addition, the incendiary grenade can be effective against gas clouds and goo as it ignites and dissipates them quickly.
The incendiary grenade can be extinguished by someone throwing a Smo...

shell mauve
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oh yeah the jump pad

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the one thing I haven't used but seen so much people use in derpy ways I cannot ignore it

heavy gale
shell mauve
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I also added a sentence to the guardian turret

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because it is weak against all the dedicated melee weapons I wrote that before the dagger bit

stiff dove
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could medium use mines?

shell mauve
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yes

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explosive mines

sweet locust
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They could?

stiff dove
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no incendiary mines right?

knotty rune
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For the gadgets, would a list work better than a table? 🤔

sweet locust
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There's no shot I mained heavy and didn't know they could use mines

knotty rune
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(right next to it)

stiff dove
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yeah medium just has way better gadgets than a mine so i guess no one even thought about it xd, i wasn't sure

shell mauve
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I used it all the time.. :c

heavy gale
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styling will come at a later date

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well, formatting

stiff dove
shell mauve
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make sure you proofread my jump pad now then. https://www.thefinals.wiki/wiki/Jump_Pad

The jump pad is a Medium build exclusive gadget with a utility focus. it can be used to create new opportunities to move across the arenas. A well-placed jump pad or two can be used to create traps or block entrances by placing them vertically or in opposing directions. A player would get pushed between the two pads which would immobilize them a...

heavy gale
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"also fucks over the people who break all entrances to the suspended structures"

shell mauve
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add that.. but without fuck in it

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that will kill two birds with one stone

heavy gale
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I'd be surprised if anyone actually used Night Vision kekw

lapis kindle
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it was a mistake

sweet locust
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Don't even let you see people through walls

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Like there heat signature

shell mauve
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ok to order this mess I'm gonna make a list.. just respond with the number if you are working on it @lone monolith pin my nexxt message plox

lapis kindle
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btw i have screenshots of each of the Gadget lists in case you need the reference

stiff dove
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give this man a cookie or something

lapis kindle
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i took some of them from my streams spear_lol

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-- hope that helps

stiff dove
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btw i just realised a couple days ago that you are the one who made some of these "news" videos, good stuff 👍

shell mauve
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Gadgets that still need to be done:
1️⃣ Thermal Vision
2️⃣ Proximity Sensor
3️⃣ Stun Gun
4️⃣ Gas Mine
5️⃣ Glitch Trap
6️⃣ Tracking Dart
7️⃣ Sonar Grenade
8️⃣ Incendiary Mine
9️⃣ Barricade

Specialization that has to be done:
👀 Recon Senses

Please react on this message with the corresponding number of the gadget you want to/will write.

lone monolith
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RHB and SPEAR are our resident Embark tubers

lapis kindle
sweet locust
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I can do incendiary mines later

shell mauve
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please react to the message @sweet locust, so you have claim

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a claim*

stiff dove
sweet locust
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I'm very tired lmao

shell mauve
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thats okay, just so nobody does double the work

heavy gale
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smoke grenade is mostly done https://www.thefinals.wiki/wiki/Smoke_Grenade

The Smoke Grenade is a type of tatical grenade that creates a cloud of smoke upon detonation. The smoke provides visual cover for players to move around or change positions without being seen by enemies. A well placed smoke grenade can obsucure the vision of the opponenets which can make it more difficult for them to attack you at range

stiff dove
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looks good

shell mauve
heavy gale
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I'll work on 5 and 3 at some point

shell mauve
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please claim them then

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that way we know who does what

heavy gale
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5 is basically just glitch grenade (which I still ned to complete) but mine version

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don't forget to do the Goo Gun @stiff dove 😉

sweet locust
shell mauve
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cool

sweet locust
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Lmao

stiff dove
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^i love this gif btw xd

heavy gale
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once we get the citizen theme, it's gonna seem like we wrote A LOT more

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considering the width is like 50% kekw

stiff dove
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hahahaha yeah i sometimes make the window smaller to feel less bad when i haven't written much lmao
Sadge

heavy gale
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you're doing your part which is all we need

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also maybe in the future, we should add like an update history type thing for gadgets that get changed/buffed/nerfed in an update

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so each gadget would have it's section of "patch something: {gadget_name} nerfed radius 25%"

sweet locust
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No matter how much we work on the wiki we are still at the mercy of embark

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And our jobs will truly never be over

shell mauve
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We need base stats first then.

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The zipline is a medium build exclusive gadget focused on movement. It can be deployed by simply aiming and placing the end of the line. it will automatically spawn a starting point at the feet of the user. Everyone can use the zipline after it got placed, including enemies.

shell mauve
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also adding Recon Senses!

heavy gale
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I can possibly do sonar grenade

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I've used it one or twice

shell mauve
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Weapons that need to be completely written still:
1️⃣ Pump-Action GL (https://www.thefinals.wiki/wiki/Pump-Action_GL)
2️⃣ Riot Shield (https://www.thefinals.wiki/wiki/Riot_Shield)
3️⃣ SA1216 Shotgun (https://www.thefinals.wiki/wiki/SA1216)
4️⃣ M32 GL (https://www.thefinals.wiki/wiki/M32_GL)

Weapons that need Overviews PART I:
5️⃣ V9S (https://www.thefinals.wiki/wiki/V9S)
6️⃣ LH1 (https://www.thefinals.wiki/wiki/LH1)
7️⃣ Sniper rifle (https://www.thefinals.wiki/wiki/.30-06_Sniper)
8️⃣ Dagger (https://www.thefinals.wiki/wiki/Assassin's_Dagger)
9️⃣ Sword (https://www.thefinals.wiki/wiki/Sword)
0️⃣ Repeater (https://www.thefinals.wiki/wiki/Repeater)

Please react on this message with the corresponding number of the weapon you want to/will write.

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PLease pin this one too

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will first get these done and then continue with new things ;D

sweet locust
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i think the riot shield one is perfect

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when you shot the mines i cant remember did they just break or did they detonate

shell mauve
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detonate

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but an explosive mine is a lil weird

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a singular mine doesnt do damage but two have the same effect as a C4 charge

sweet locust
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okay so if you shot at a gas mine it would just release the gas?

shell mauve
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I think so yes

sweet locust
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okay just making sure

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thanks

sweet locust
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https://www.thefinals.wiki/wiki/Gas_Mine how we feeling about this

The Gas Mine is a type of land mine that is exclusive to medium builds, When stepped on it will engulf your character in a cloud of toxic gas making you take damage, Great for putting on choke points and entrances to keep people away

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i changed it to "Great for putting on choke points and entrances to keep other teams away from your Cashout."

shell mauve
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needed to do some spelling changes

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personally I think Great implies opinion but I'm sure it is great if you say so

sweet locust
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fair

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also how is sons of the forest i heard its good i want to try it

shell mauve
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Oh I joined into a random game to annoy the players

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I just throw sticks and stones and make weirdn oises over the walkietalkie

sweet locust
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evil

shell mauve
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just sexy table

heavy gale
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Anyone remember how many seconds the stun gun electrifies the target?

lapis kindle
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i think it lasts at least 7s

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maybe 5s

heavy gale
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I've added these lines for now, I'll probably add some more detail tomorrow https://www.thefinals.wiki/wiki/Stun_Gun

The Stun Gun is a non-lethal gadget exclusive to light builds. It is used to deliver an electric shock that slows down the opponent and prevents them from firing their weapon or using their gadgets for a short period of time.

manic reef
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I'll check my practice range clips

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Maybe one of them has me stunning the moving dummy

silent hawk
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But honestly hard to pinpoint as I've only been stunned once like a week in

final token
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I was very short

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I think 3 seconds too

shell mauve
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@vagrant compass would it be possible to organise a dedicated meeting where we can get statistics on weapon damage etc? With one or two devs who have the info at the ready? Or maybe that we prepare an excel sheet with all the info we want and they fill it out for us to process onto the wiki? I’m just thinking efficiency, accuracy and completeness

vagrant compass
shell mauve
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Thanks!

heavy gale
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Now that is a great idea

vagrant compass
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Looks like this might not be possible atm since things will probably go through many iterations until release. But it's something that might be possible post-release when things will be more static and it'd be easier to keep it all up to date

dusty quail
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nvm just read nate's message 🤦

lapis kindle
heavy gale
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I'll just leave it at "short period of time" for now

vagrant compass
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I can ask about some specific stats from the Beta, but I'm not sure if it'll be productive to add info you're likely to have to replace later

dusty quail
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honestly probably best to fill in all the words first

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than the stats

shell mauve
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Well we are pretty close to filling out most words I think

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There is also a lot that we don’t know yet.

heavy gale
dusty quail
heavy gale
stiff dove
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wtf it's already 1pm 👀

heavy gale
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👀

sweet locust
stiff dove
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sir your opinion is wrong! angryflush

heavy gale
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Recon senses is a medium build specialization. It is a sensory enhancement that highlights enemies in a faint red color, allowing you to see them through structures, foliage, and smoke. The highlight effect weakens as distance increases.

dusty quail
sweet locust
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def optical

dusty quail
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however the name does imply that you 'sense' them

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so honestly doesn't matter

heavy gale
#

changed it, looked better

sweet locust
#

guys i can smell them hes past this wall, blast em

heavy gale
dusty quail
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how OP would it be if your teammates could also see what you sense

heavy gale
#

writing pages for stuff I have never used is challenging at times

heavy gale
sweet locust
heavy gale
#

yeah, it do be like that times

sweet locust
#

i think i might change " Great for putting on choke points and entrances to keep other teams away from your Cashout." to "ideal for putting on choke points and entrances to keep other teams away from your Cashout."

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this is for the gas mines

heavy gale
#

sounds good

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now it's just a few more gadgets to go

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added a strengths + weaknesses bit for the glitch grenade https://www.thefinals.wiki/wiki/Glitch_Grenade

The Glitch Grenade is an exclusive gadget for the Light Build. It disrupts opponents' screen and disables their ability to use gadgets/specializations. Additionally, it can disable any utility that has been thrown down by opponents, such as the Guardian Turret.

dusty quail
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do we know if the Glitch Grenade disables mines?

heavy gale
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it does however whenever I tried it on multiple mines

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it seemed to only disable 1

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or my aim was just bad and that one mine was the only one in the radius

dusty quail
#

The Glitch Grenade is an exclusive gadget for the Light Build. It disrupts opponents' screen and disables their ability to use gadgets/specializations. Additionally, it can disable any utility that has been thrown down by opponents, such as the Guardian Turret.

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done

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also I don't quite get the naming

heavy gale
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yeah, looks like that M11 page was made November 2022

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which is when the gun was the Model/Mac 10 (I can't remember from the alpha)

heavy gale
sweet locust
#

What

dusty quail
sweet locust
dusty quail
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the numbers don't line up

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is all

heavy gale
#

guess the wiki's been a thing for a while however only recently announced

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

dusty quail
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should we change it?

heavy gale
#

100% yeah

sweet locust
# heavy gale

They probably went oh guys let make a wiki then realized they it would take to much time

dusty quail
#

so it's supposed to be M11 right

sweet locust
#

And now using us

heavy gale
dusty quail
#

it's hard to make a wiki on a 2-day beta for which you have no pictures or video of

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especially starting weeks/months after it was over

sweet locust
#

I like my idea better 🤓

heavy gale
#

same

dusty quail
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be sure to confront them about it later

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hehe

heavy gale
sweet locust
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I'm to scared

heavy gale
#

Glitch trap is just gonna use the same details as Glitch Grenade just with a bit on "they gotta step on it for it to trigger"

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Also, does the glitch trap work the same way as like the Gas Mine where if you shoot it, it will trigger instead of just being destroyed ?

sweet locust
#

No clue

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Ask the finals chat

dusty quail
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just like the actual mine

heavy gale
#

my experience with shooting explosive mines is it either did completely nothing or it did a tiny explosion

dusty quail
#

it's to trap people more than rush

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it's to ensure they can't rush you

manic reef
#

My experience with explosive is it never go boom

dusty quail
manic reef
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Duck duck boom

heavy gale
#

I'm assuming they work in the same way as most mines and takes a few seconds to become armed

dusty quail
#

(strengths/weaknesses)

heavy gale
#

yep

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6 gadgets to go

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and 1 specialization

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nice easter egg banner @lapis kindle

manic reef
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wtf

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snow monaco

lone monolith
#

?

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Ah

heavy gale
#

the screenshot for snow monaco is gone Sadge

sweet locust
#

Rip snow

heavy gale
#

added strengths & weaknesses to glitch trap

sweet locust
#

Pog

heavy gale
#

I'll work on the sonar grenade in a bit

silent hawk
#

fun fact the dagger could multi kill if u were close enough to each other

silent hawk
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it happened slappy and i when we were both ~10hp and we got knifed at the same time cuz we were so close to each other

heavy gale
#

hmm, guess it could happen if for some reason the hitboxes were overlapping

shell mauve
shell mauve
heavy gale
#

do we know if the M11 is "Model 11"?

sweet locust
#

Probably

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I refuse to believe they would go for Mac 11

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I would cry

heavy gale
#

I've changed all the M10 to M11 in https://www.thefinals.wiki/wiki/M11, however also kept the Mac-10 parts considering it is a MAC-10 but I guess we probably shouldn't mention it on an "official" wiki considering licence laws

shell mauve
#

uhu.. probably something to keep in mind

sweet locust
#

We use the names

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It only gets into legal area when using the gun for profit cuz I think of copy right

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Idk I'm not a gun expert

manic reef
#

The MAC-11 (Military Armament Corporation Model 11) is a machine pistol developed by American firearm designer Gordon Ingram at the Military Armament Corporation (MAC) during the 1970s in Powder Springs, Georgia, United States. The weapon is a sub-compact version of the Model 10 (MAC-10), and is chambered to fire the smaller .380 ACP round.This ...

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MAC11 >:)

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well technically also model 11

heavy gale
#

heh, did not think a mac 11 was a real thing

sweet locust
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Wait wtf

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Hold on a minute

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Im rethinking life rn

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My life is a lie

stiff dove
#

i'm almost finished with da goo gun pepethumbsup

heavy gale
#

now it raises the question ,is the M11 based on the Mac-10 or Mac-11 kekw

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considering it was also the M10 in the past

stiff dove
#

soo. i got an example clip (10s) for the goo gun. it's almost clean audio besides my mate saying "nothing coming from right" in german. should i rather mute the whole audio or just let it be? what do yall think?

shell mauve
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oh damn

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I almost said something naughty

stiff dove
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lmfao now where you say that

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i think i see what you did there

shell mauve
#

i wanted to say "no just put up a warning"

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wouldn't want the polish .. ok anyway

sweet locust
#

How are you povich

shell mauve
#

I'm.. tipsy 😄

sweet locust
#

Damn, wait I'm scared of a drunk povich

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You have to stop drinking

shell mauve
#

already did

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someone else was paying so yeah.. made sure I ordered enough

sweet locust
#

What did you drink

lone monolith
#

I went through and did a general grammar sweep on the Builds page

heavy gale
#

nice, also like the weapon list per build

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well for light atm

lone monolith
shell mauve
#

probably need to do a table again

lone monolith
#

It would be really nice to have 3 columns, one for Weapons, Specializations, and Gadgets

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Because I hate using tables for literally everything lol

shell mauve
#

Kinda wish we could make the table invisible

sweet locust
#

Luke is about to pop up with a plugin probably

heavy gale
sweet locust
#

Damn

heavy gale
#

trying to think of something though

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how bout something like the gadgets table

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ignore the row highlighting

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it is a table but a modified table

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oh one second, need to change the default skin for you guys too

shell mauve
#

I mean you don't have to ask me.. I'm fine with it haha

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I like that skin

heavy gale
#

ok, now I have changed the default skin for everyone on that

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now you should be able to see the "columned table" @lone monolith

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after a few ctrl + f5s

stiff dove
#

it ain't much, but it's honest work https://www.thefinals.wiki/wiki/Goo_Gun

The Goo Gun is Specialization for the heavy build which shoots blobs of Goo. It has a maximum capacity of 14 Goo blobs before it needs to be reloaded. Once the shot Goo blob touches a surface, it sticks to it and enlargens enormously, making it useful at creating cover and obstacles.

heavy gale
#

looking good though 🙂

shell mauve
#

or...

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OR...

stiff dove
#

oh did i fuck it up? xd

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oopsie

heavy gale
#

wouldn't call it a fuck up

sweet locust
#

oR

stiff dove
#

yeah

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a smol fuckup

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or?

shell mauve
#

you just use this

heavy gale
#

he's gonna show the visual editor way

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yep xD

shell mauve
#

YES

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WHY NOT USE THE FLIPPING TOOLS
THEY ARE THERE

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D:

stiff dove
#

yeah that's how i used until now but i guess i clicked something wrong

sweet locust
heavy gale
shell mauve
#

I'll fix it @stiff dove

heavy gale
#

great job though @stiff dove

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and that's all the specializations DONE

sweet locust
#

Goodjob toast

stiff dove
heavy gale
#

*pls don't add more embark *

shell mauve
#

what?

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btw

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uhh

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are we writing something about the cashout gamemode?

heavy gale
#

we might as well at some point

sweet locust
#

Yeah

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Who wants to write it

heavy gale
#

Not me, I hate writing kekw

shell mauve
#

I'll make it real quick on the main page os we cna at least link stuff

sweet locust
#

I'm dyslexic

shell mauve
#

its cashout mode right?

sweet locust
#

Yes

shell mauve
#

ok cool

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added it to the main page

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since it'll likely be expanded rapidly

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we need a graphic for it

#

who can I bother for that? 😮

heavy gale
#

@lapis kindle

shell mauve
#

maybe something similar to this but idk.. yellow or red background..

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we could probably do the same for the maps btw

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so you have black for loadout, red for.. gamemodes and red for maps

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or whatever

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its early days who cares

heavy gale
#

Yellow for gamemodes

shell mauve
#

sure

heavy gale
#

red for maps, grey for loadout stuff

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considering the vault box and cashout box is yellow(ish)

shell mauve
#

yeah but thats only one gamemode 😉

sweet locust
#

Damn we color coating now

shell mauve
#

well I mean

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it would look cool

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and distinctive

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its only for the main page of course

lapis kindle
#

when y’all decide, i’ll change them

shell mauve
#

we could also work in doutones.. so leave the text and all the same but only have one color + the grey/black

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man i wish I had photoshop on this so I could just show it

heavy gale
#

can always get a free trial from adobe probably

shell mauve
#

oh no I have a loicense

sweet locust
#

A what

shell mauve
#

a license

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but I don't want to install it on this computer

heavy gale
#

ah

lapis kindle
#

i’m not at home today so spear_sip

shell mauve
#

I mean its not hard.. you basically just grayscale the image and then put a layer over it and use the .. uhh

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overlay I think.. no wait if you want the Finals black you need to set it up in duotone

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because you say.. white is x and black is [the finals black values]

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nvm I'll shut up :x

sweet locust
#

Povich cooking rn

heavy gale
shell mauve
lapis kindle
#

anyway, i would keep graphics clean. but seeing how this is gonna be a back and forth eventually, i’m probably gonna share the PSD so it’s easier for you guys to decide spear_lol

shell mauve
#

I mean its not a lot of work

heavy gale
#

just wait until we get the Citizen skin, gonna have to be a lot more design decisions there too

shell mauve
#

Its experimenting

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yeah sure

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true true

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I don't want to do the graphics myself because I will get sucked in and I'll never be happy... even if it looks good >.<

heavy gale
#

that's why you got us for ending thoughts

shell mauve
#

no.. not gonna start that.. not yet xD

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we'll wait for the skin

dusty quail
#

by the way in the future I see there being pages for each of the hazards also

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Fire, Glitch, Electricity, Goo, Gas, Smoke, etc.

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anything which has its own mechanics and interactions

shell mauve
#

We are trying to keep a 2 click rule, so it would need to be either a separate icon on the main page or we need to rename something to be slightly broader.

dusty quail
shell mauve
#

I guess just having a "hazards" header with icons yes

dusty quail
lone monolith
heavy gale
#

Don't forget the inevitable namatama page

heavy gale
shell mauve
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because you don't want info to be hidden

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and having more than 2 clicks generally implies its hidden.

lone monolith
#

I think 2 clicks should just be a general suggestion not a hard limit

shell mauve
#

I think it should be a hard limit for the time being

dusty quail
dusty quail
lone monolith
#

Environmental Hazards are a fair bit less important to be easily seen than maps, weapons, gadgets.

shell mauve
#

well they are a core mechanic I think

heavy gale
# lone monolith Is this live now? Don't see it
    border: none;
    background-color: transparent;
    text-align: left;
}
    
.wikitable-columns {
    overflow-x: auto;
    max-width: 100%;
}    
    
.wikitable-columns tr > td {
    border-right: 1px solid #ddd;
}

.wikitable-columns tr > th {
    /*background-color: #d21f3c;*/
    color: #1D1A20;
    border-right: 1px solid #ddd;
}

.wikitable-columns th, .wikitable-columns td {
    padding: 0.75rem !important;
}```  https://www.thefinals.wiki/wiki/MediaWiki:Vector.css and then it's just general syntax for wikitable however doing class="wikitable wikitable-columns" instead of just "wikitable"
dusty quail
#

if you're thinking about reasons people go to a wiki, right?

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they wanna find out about a thing, how it works

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I feel like things like Maps for example

shell mauve
#

Maybe bundle the hazards with the random effects like low gravity

lone monolith
#

Oh

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nvm

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Can't read lulz

heavy gale
shell mauve
#

maybve make a header called conditions?

dusty quail
shell mauve
#

weather, hazards, modifiers

dusty quail
#

you can get plenty in under mechanics

shell mauve
#

yeah thats possible too

dusty quail
#

whether that be elevators, raised barriers, cannons, inbuilt ziplines/jumppads, map hazards, and then all the actual hazards + goo

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'Mechanics' does contain them all

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that, or 'Gameplay' (which is kinda vaguer)

shell mauve
#

btw to clarify.. the 2 click means.. any information can be found within two clicks in at least one direct way.. you can obviously go from mainpage to map to fire to incendiary grenade

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but you should also be able to go from mainpage to any hazard within 2 clicks

dusty quail
#

how I use wikis is really straight through the search (personally)

heavy gale
#

Also the table css will only work in the Vector skin which is default for everyone atm, when we move to Citizen, probably need to change the code and move it to like Citizen.css @lone monolith

dusty quail
#

so like a thing I need to know the weakness of, for example, just type it in

lone monolith
shell mauve
#

I understand, how i see it.. we already know the game, but someone who doesn't know anything doesnt know what to search for

dusty quail
#

going through links should really only be if you don't know what it's called 🤣

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or what to search for

shell mauve
#

ok cool we're in consensus.. I can sleep now 😉

dusty quail
#

honestly there might even be mechanics that players don't even know about

shell mauve
#

gooood night 😄

heavy gale
#

night bud

dusty quail
#

priority should be helpfulness 👍

shell mauve
#

I mean half the poeple didnt know the cannons worked

lone monolith
#

THEY DID?!

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🙂

dusty quail
#

we want a cannons page

#

but just general knowledge things

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yknow, things players don't actually know straight up

#

this is why the hazards pages I think are useful

shell mauve
#

yeah so that be under mechanics too

#

ok .. sleep

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now..

dusty quail
#

it's useful to know that smoke counters fire, or that goo blocks Turrets (hopefully APS too next?) or that glitch counters mines, or that gas can be ignited and more

heavy gale
#

it's one of those things where we could have an eggcademy page with the eggcademy videos on it

dusty quail
#

if we have a 'fire' page we could also put the specific fire one there

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or the 'gas' page

heavy gale
#

yeah, true

dusty quail
#

We can also talk about how the crane can be commandeered, or how all buttons can be shot, (or how you only need to shoot the button stand for it to activate)

lone monolith
#

Does anyone have the in game description for the gadgets?

heavy gale
#

yeah, that shooting of the button stand took me a while to learn that we could do that kekw

lone monolith
#

I need it for the Breaching Charge, Proximity Sensor, Stun Gun, and Thermal Vision

sweet locust
#

i went from wanting the game to be finished so i can play it again to wanting it to be finish for the wiki

lone monolith
heavy gale
#

I can probably modify the column widths and wrap the text if you want

shell mauve
#

I would just put a type behind it rather than all the info they’ll get by clicking the links

#

And most gadgets speak for themselves anyway

#

V9S - Pistol

lone monolith
#

Eh we don't have the in game descriptions for them anywhere

heavy gale
#

also on the terms of ig descriptions

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should we add it to the pages of each gadget/weapon/specialization ?

lone monolith
#

If they want a more in depth look at the weapons they can click on it

sweet locust
#

kyne is cooking

heavy gale
#

Also I can't find shit about the ig description for prox, breach, stun and thermal kekw

lone monolith
#

Yeaaaaaaah

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I might see if I can bedazzle my way into knowing that

heavy gale
#

columns look pretty good though

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also @lone monolith if you can add ```.wikitable-columns th:last-of-type, .wikitable-columns td:last-of-type {
border-right: none;
}

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it'll get rid of the last line on the right of the table

real stirrup
lone monolith
#

King

lone monolith
#

Can I obtain them

sweet locust
real stirrup
#

ok, it'll take me a little time - standby

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Proximity sensor

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Thermal Vision

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Breaching Charge

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fingers crossed for the stun gun...

lone monolith
#

The fact that I didn't get a screenshot of the Stun Gun when I was memeing about only using it for 2 weeks straight is a failure on my part

real stirrup
#

Stun Gun, but no close up of it in hand. I also had to listen to @keen kernel trying to pronounce "osthyvel" while finding it kek

heavy gale
#

legend

lone monolith
#

LMAO

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I don't know how to pronounce it either

real stirrup
#

Ost-Heave-all, I believe is correct - just don't apply a kiwi accent to it like I do megaLUL

lone monolith
#

RHB coming in clutch yet again hug_friend

real stirrup
#

(New Zealanders are commonly known as kiwis in case anyone is wondering about the fruit haha)

heavy gale
lone monolith
#

I just pronounce it axolotl and hope nobody notices

real stirrup
#

*hopes that Embark don't make an actual Iceland map with local names

keen kernel
heavy gale
#

those damn O'Driscoll's

#

scratch that, need to change something

heavy gale
sweet locust
keen kernel
lone monolith
#

Medium now has a chart woo

heavy gale
shell mauve
#

I still think the charts with all this info is too wide

#

Maybe condense it so it looks more like mobile

manic reef
#

clocker

heavy gale
#

I've added the heavy build table

heavy gale
shell mauve
#

Yeah.. probably best

#

Its a lot of info, maybe we should consider putting the gadgets in a separate table with 2 colons

heavy gale
#

I say I can edit the widths, Kyne can edit the widths kekw

#

I was thinking more of adding the IG descriptions to each of the pages for gadgets/weapons/specializations and then we can just have the columns with the names of the gadgets etc.

shell mauve
#

Yeah that was my og suggestion but I felt like it was to deaf ears so I let it go

heavy gale
#

we'll do that, be easier and more clean

#

and yeah, I basically saw your idea yesterday? and stole it

shell mauve
#

Haha congrats on the Finalist role!!!

heavy gale
#

thanks hug_friend

shell mauve
#

Oh I’m lvl 25 now 😄

sweet locust
#

im trying to speedrun to level 15

#

so i can flex on everyone when the game releases

#

and that i can spread misinformation

shell mauve
#

Lol its.. not that special haha.. mostly requires you to put disclaimers in your bio

shell mauve
sweet locust
#

good

manic reef
#

minor amount of trolling

vagrant compass
#

Now I realize if someone is red/green colorblind they probably can't tell between Finalists and Mods HaveYasineMyWillToLive

shell mauve
#

👀 go fix that my Welsh friend

sweet locust
#

we are gonna do some much trolling

heavy gale
vagrant compass
#

We'll check with a colorblindness simulator, but if someone just doesn't see colors at all it's not possible to make it all work

#

Discord does have a colorblind mode though I believe

shell mauve
#

We’ll have to work with shades of grey

#

All 50 of them Cat_sip

sweet locust
#

bruh

shell mauve
#

Hehe whats up

sweet locust
#

what else needs to be done in the wiki

shell mauve
#

Mechanics/environment i.e. Hazards, weather, modifiers

#

Maybe a cosmetics section?

#

Not to be filled but to be added and structured

heavy gale
#

also still got gadgets to do

#

lastly, something like this on every page at the top?

shell mauve
#

Yes

#

YES

#

LUKE YOU MAGNIFICENT F..

#

Love you

heavy gale
#

{{Quote|text=Short-range, semi-automatic, suppressed pistol.|source=In-game description}} is the syntax for it

shell mauve
#

middle probably yeah

#

shouldn't we remove all stats for the time being? since we don't know the current ones?

heavy gale
#

the quote is now centred

shell mauve
#

hmmm

#

yeah its fine

heavy gale
#

also removed the stats for now

shell mauve
#

yeha probably best

#

looks fine to me anyway

#

could you do me a solid..

heavy gale
#

I think once we have the citizen skin, it will look a lot better in terms of placement

shell mauve
#

I dunno why

heavy gale
#

like that, just need to modify it a bit

shell mauve
#

but I would make the quote Italic

#

and the source not..

#

hell we don't need the ingame description as a source I think

#

its sorta implied

shell mauve
#

so if we can remove the ingame description part but leave the line below the description it will look HOT

heavy gale
#

like that ?

shell mauve
#

yeah that looks hot

#

I love it

#

this chat is starting to get real green yo haha

heavy gale
#

so syntax for quote is literally just {{Quote|text=Short-range, semi-automatic, suppressed pistol.}}

heavy gale
shell mauve
#

maybe

#

its only 3x the required amount of the finalist though kappa

heavy gale
#

diamond was 5x the amount of gold kekw, they would just be keeping a running theme

shell mauve
#

pffttt

#

in that case.. lvl 30 would make more sense

heavy gale
#

ok, I have added the quote to every weapon

final token
#

Luke you’re a good egg eggpet, my first interaction with you wasn’t great but you are doing amazing work ☺️

noble anchor
#

do you guys have that?

shell mauve
#

thats something we'll probably add post-release

#

sort of a legacy section with patch changes

lone monolith
heavy gale
heavy gale
lone monolith
#

Alright I'll add that when I get to work

heavy gale
#

cheers Kyne

lone monolith
#

I have all of the descriptions now so I'll go back and edit any of the ones we had to speculate on

heavy gale
#

we have also added the IG descriptions to the weapon pages (will do gadgets + specializations too) @lone monolith

heavy gale
final token
# shell mauve that's very brief ngl xD

Yeah nothing serious, we were just in the middle of code cracking and the guy helping couldn’t talk in the ee channel and was frustrated and got waved on just as we were getting somewhere. Some things are all about context.

shell mauve
#

I understood as much.. unfortunately its a bit of a necessary evil to lock some stuff behind ranks

heavy gale
#

Tbf, all I saw him was complaining about not being able to chat and then being like "whatever, I'm out"

#

Didn't actually know he was helping with the EE

#

Oh well, past is past

final token
#

Yeah alls good

shell mauve
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overall people who just joined aren't that enthusiastic about helping out the community.. it takes a little je ne c'est quoi for new people to actually contribute rather than asking for keys xD

final token
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I know right that’s why I was afraid to loose them

shell mauve
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well I mean.. they also need to understand that

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and its not that hard to get enough rep...

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@past current if you give some input here you'll get green in no time

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this chat is the green maker recently hahaha

past current
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input

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yessss

final token
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Holy shit luke is green

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Speed run

shell mauve
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Haha

heavy gale
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Lots and lots of wiki talk 😂

past current
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i definitely have input

shell mauve
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yeah Luke did it in record time ngl

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ok well Dash go through the wiki, check the weapon descriptions and give us your thoughts...

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one sentence..

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or half..

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at a time

final token
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That’s actually insane

sweet locust
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hows the wiki going

past current
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light mode 😔

shell mauve
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we're working on it

sweet locust
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yeah

shell mauve
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Luke is our chef de theme

sweet locust
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and plugin man

past current
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i think there should be more description of the maps themselves

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like the characteristics of the maps

lone monolith
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I'll look into it

past current
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for example, monaco is more close combat with the houses/buildings

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and for seoul, u need to watch where you're stepping so u dont fall off

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this doesnt quite make sense to me ngl

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i think that sentence should be re-worded

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maybe "sponsored gear is a sign for successful contestants"

shell mauve
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but is it?

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or is that just marketing talk

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I think we should split lore and facts

past current
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well people aren't going to get sponsored is they keep losing

shell mauve
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are they not?

lone monolith
past current
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oop

lone monolith
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Think we might need to change it to 30

heavy gale
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spam ctrl + f5 a couple more times

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mine looks like

lone monolith
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Ih

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Yeah that's better

shell mauve
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I really think we shouldn't have the extra info on it

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would save so much space

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but we can do that after everything else is done

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like.. review it

heavy gale
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luckily we got @past current to review stuff 😉

lone monolith
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It wouldn't be saving that much space

past current
lone monolith
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Now it's just a question on if you want there to be this, taking up the same verticle space but now it's empty lol

past current
lone monolith
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How in gods green earth did you even see that

past current
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thats my contribution to the wiki

past current
lone monolith
past current
heavy gale
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Gotta make your account Dash and then you can edit what you see fit hug_friend

past current
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yeahh naa na yeah na yeah na

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i shouldnt be trusted to edit such divine source of information

shell mauve
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you don't have to edit it

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just comment on it

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elaborately

sweet locust
past current
manic reef
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how do you accidentally delete the main page
(i am a visual learner)

shell mauve
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don't edit anything if you're scared of breaking it haha I am just pulling you in here to say stuff so you get your finalist role while not spamming

lone monolith
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Think we're gonna keep the IG descriptions on the builds page for the time being. We don't really save any space by changing it.

lone monolith
shell mauve
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Luke take the stage ;3

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@past current need more feedback

past current
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aaaaa

heavy gale
shell mauve
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good boy

heavy gale
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I have increased the padding between columns to fill a bit more space with the non-text version

manic reef
lone monolith
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I mean it saves horizontal space but now it's just a empty space lulz

heavy gale
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however once we put it on the Citizen Skin, it's gonna look a bit too clustered with the IG descriptions for builds

shell mauve
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and by simply adding Pistol, SMG and Rifle to the weapon names I think most people have enough info to know what it is

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then we get the qoutes on the respective weapons pages etc and boom

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another suggestion I want to give is.. maybe add another row to the gadgets

heavy gale
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kaboom

shell mauve
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sorry i mean column

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then you get some extra width and save on the length

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KABOOOOOOOMMMM

heavy gale
manic reef
shell mauve
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look at thisssssss

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CLEAAAAAAAAAAAAAANNNNNNNNNNNNN

manic reef
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red

past current
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light modeeeeeeeee 😣

shell mauve
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itsd red because this isn't the actual wiki

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It's Luke's testbuild to see now much we can do with the lay-out and themes

past current
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ahhh

shell mauve
heavy gale
past current
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where

shell mauve
past current
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ahh

shell mauve
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this is the suggested design

heavy gale
shell mauve
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thw iki is looking tight!

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now we need some basic pictures on each build model