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it might worth setting a max width for the gallery so it doesn't keep alternating sizes with the pictures
@heavy gale did yall get the info boxes working?
not yet, still waiting for the TemplateStyles extension to be installed as it looks like Scribunto has already been enabled
need TemplateStyles inorder to import the infoboxes modules/dependant modules from wikipedia
I have decided to give myself a Linux VPS though so I can try getting info boxes working on there and then setup some teamplates for it and then port them over to the finals wiki
noice
yeah i thought it would be a quick thing to set up, but it takes some fiddling around i guess. didn't wanna look much further into it, in the end some poor soul at embark has to do it anyway?
Just been flicking through the pages - starting to look great! 
yeah, Dusty or someone needs to do all the extension installing as it requires putting stuff into the root MediaWiki directory and editing local settings files
Yeah, I think Dusty coordinates with some of their IT team to do that when they have time, so we might need a little patience on those things
We got plenty of time, not really an urgent thing considering content is the most important part + the game doesn't come out for a while 
good thing that's being worked on, wiki looks really clean, as i said again i really like the "classic" wiki and not the fandom stuff. the templates will be very useful :)
yeah, Duh and I used Fandom for a bit - it was awful
Then we saw the BFEE wiki and were like - "that's us"
Really great of Embark to allow that to happen
i thought atleast it'd be easy to work with since the user experience is not good imo 
trueee
yeah cool thing
Looking at SC wiki now. It does look pretty good.

whoops does
ah ok
the cookie banner and the ads 🤢
that's enough already xd
i dont even touch fandoms wiki on mobile
I think the only fandom wiki I've used is the tarkov one
mostly because you kinda have to use it for the game 
haha, yeah, imagine playing EFT without maps
maps and quests considering the game doesn't tell you shit about where you need to go apart from what map the quest is on
I used to love woods and then they expanded it
now I get lost every time if I spawn in the not-so-new part
DVL + woods = fun
I usually always complete shooter born in heaven and then give up on the game
haven't bothered this wipe though
I'm to scared to go into streets of tarkov
Ive doing just scav runs in streets to understand it
yeah, I haven't PMC'd on streets at all
it's just a horrible map considering how many PScavs spawn in
I haven't really played EFT since they added the ping cap - I enjoyed going in with Duhmeister and co, but I don't have the time to dedicate to it to play solo. They need to have some global servers for those who just want to jump in with their overseas mates.
if only but I doubt they would ever add global servers, they can barely manage their servers atm 
True
SCUM has added ping caps too, although I think they have a few global servers.
I'm excited for EFT arena, it looks really good and it isn't just a EFT port, they remade the game scratch
So better net code baby let's go
forgot about arena, that does look like it will be fun
I tried getting into EFT when Streets released. While the game is unique and has really cool mechanics and in general is pretty ambitious, the technical debt it has imo is huge and I (as a newbie) don't see myself getting invested into it. It's not a fair comparison of course, but for example it's just a fresh breath of air what embark is doing with the finals, and that's what I need, like it wouldn't surprise me if they upgrade to UE 5.1 for the next playtest/release
Did you just compare the finals to the most hyper realistic shooter
Yes they did
we gonna need a favicon
Working on it
Kyne be working hard



I added a max-width div to the m60 slideshow because it was annoying me that it kept constantly changing widths whenever I went to the next image
also the edit source of mediawiki doesn't like indenting, like what
I would have added a class to https://www.thefinals.wiki/wiki/MediaWiki:Common.css however don't have edit permissions for it
Could get asked to be made a admin so I can edit it for you
become our admin 
I've added the V9S slideshow also
@golden laurel Can I petition to become a admin on the wiki so I can help a bit more with the formatting?
is there a bulk uploader for mediawiki or do we have to upload each file individually?
I think you have to upload individually
ah ok, I didn't waste time uploading the V9S images 
ok so got infobox base template to work on my VPS, just need to test out making templates and see what happens I guess
and now I sleep as I just saw the time and I got work in the morning
I'm gonna look at it in the morning but I redid the EE hunt page
I'm gonna have to figure out how to format it since it needs to be in detail but it's going to get prohibitively long soon.
@real stirrup What do you think? https://www.thefinals.wiki/wiki/Tiered_Pre-Release_Easter_Eggs_from_THE_FINALS_website,_Discord_and_Twitter
Yes I figured out a way to auto-hide the table of contents so it doesn't take up the entire screen when you first look at it
Can we get it do each Tier is a first tab in the contents list and any images or subdivision under those step in?
Yeah let me do that rq, although I fear it might be nessecary to keep it as it is for it to be readable
something like this
very roughly drawn - but Level One and Level two should be on the same tab, and tiers the next one in (effectively Level 1 only had 1 Tier)
I wonder if we need to separate the Levels and maybe even the tiers onto separate pages - it's going to get very long by Tier 9
It has to be the way I formated it otherwise it becomes kinda, well, very difficult to read lol
yeah, that's why I reckon we should move to separate pages
Maybe with an overview page
Yeah, so each Tier would need a page exactly like that
So: Overview page > Levels page > Tier pages
With something as complex as these EEs are, I think it's better to chunk it down like that
I think that's ok if it's all one tier
I think splitting tiers by 3 might be a good idea
A-B-C. D-E-F.
AAB AAC AAAAFFFF
Part of the problem is we don't know how complex the following tiers might be
Also @lapis kindle the new art you made for the Loadout and Contact sections look absolutely amazing. Thanks! 
And the themes between tiers don't fully relate
We'll think about it
I don't feel like spending 2 hours writing for 6 images again within the next couple of days 
ok, maybe go with the groups, but we might decide down the track to split them up
sound good?
I'll go ahead and split it up to Level 1 and Level 2 with some placeholder art
Great!
Hey hey hey
Wait a moment
Wth
These have been sitting here... THIS ENTIRE TIME
🫠
Yeah, I used those recently
Welll
The Monaco one is cool
(I was looking through the press kit to find a good shot of a gadget being used)
Alright, final list of changes I've done:
Added Gadgets to the Loadout section on the Main Page.
Split up the Easter Eggs section into Level One & Two. Rewrote Level One completely.
Went through and moved every image to the right and normalized their size.

Kyne is cooking
looks at finals wiki
sees photo for specializations page
no specialization on the photo
would we make a Arc Raiders wiki now? or wait for more info
100% wait for more info I would say
And besides, if I understood correctly, I think Arc Raiders Community (from the unofficial discord) is very different than this one..
I wonder how they’d feel if someone else gets the privilege without them also getting involved haha (I just heard stories)
true
I need to write more strengths and weaknesses boys
But I’m running out of guns I played adequately
I have only played 2 rounds with it and I felt like it was not bad but didn’t feel like I wanted it to feel
The mesh shield did what I wanted the riot shield to feel like
shield wasn't bad
it just isn't as fun as the other 2
they look clean
changed the socials image box from
to
looks cleaner in my opinion
ah ok, SPEAR added/made them, very nice job @lapis kindle
Love the little crowned Nama
I think we can check who joined from where 🤔
could always do this kinda design for the social media links
Now we are cooking
very cool
yes, since now there are socials i'd also suggest to put it somewhere on the top
I'll start working on infoboxes on my VPS sometime today as now all the modules/base template has imported correctly on mine
I guess adding several pictures together as a gallery fucks up the format of the image descriptions?
I tidied up the text in the builds page a while ago
Most of these have been added aside from the third one, poke us if there's any problems
Thank you 
No prob, we'll see if we can do the third one 
the third one isn't the most needed thing, it's just there in case it was possible, if it's trouble though we can just skip it
I've seen the heavy build description change so many times lmao, it went from tanky, to tank like to defensive and now to sturdiest
We are bipolar lmao
Sturdiest?
Hmm
Haha maybe a little, but it’s also not a lie..
I can live with sturdiest for now

Cannot be arsed to look up synonyms to avoid “heaviest”
Which we want to avoid of course
i think im re write the light build, i didnt want to change it cuz someone else made it and didnt want to be rude
but i think im re do it to make it match up
What are you changing about it? 😮
rn its this
I literally added, corrected and improved…
It was 3 times as long with some weapon links
Is there any way we can find back my contribution?
or we can just re write it
No, fuck that
It was alot of work (put in a lot of thought)
And I’m just plain pissed tbh
oh no
mmm
So basically it got deleted because it was on the main page and the outdated version that nobody touched is all we have now..
I’m gonna take a break
i think rockhound can see all the history that has been made
Bye yall
cya later
All the edits can be viewed and restored from the history page, no?
I'm looking through the history
yes
what is your name Povich?
I suggest everyone write their contributions in a separate local doc, so in case of any mix-ups you can always bring stuff back or connect multiple contributions together
on wiki
i got it
slam it into the page
noice
there we go
this sounds almost exactly what the game says about the heavy build
me likey
Thanks bro!
So I looked it up, it doesn't seem like there is a way (without doing some hacky stuff with maybe changing css-styles) to make the image description of a gallery inline, as like when you have a single image (like In-Game Sponsors). But you could use another preset for it, which would make it like this, which looks a bit better I think. You can see the difference on the picture here:
Maps is "Traditional with no outlines", Loadout is "Traditional" display mode.
You can set this by: editing a gallery --> Options --> Display mode: "Traditional with no outlines"
something about this feels off to me
this is what its looking like rn
Also as the loadouts bit has now the captions within the images, we can probably just get rid of the whole description/border (apart from the gadgets one)

i changed it
I wrote it as “a versatile weapon”
Oh does it still say that? 🤣
I based it off this screenshot haha
Haha thanks bro
I wonder if we have like daily backups for the wiki
history does not count
when someone makes a edit it saves that portion of the wiki forever
I'm going to change that first sentence for light
But is used to introduced new information
Sacrificed health is certainly new, but the mobility is something that is already mentioned
After I'm done eating
also this
i agree
I will from now on yeah
on the bright side, wiki be looking good
Oh dude, I think its amazing regardless
@stiff dove you making changes to the main page atm?
no no
ah ok
you're a free bird
bruh i forgot how much stuff added links to things
i wanted it to look more professional 💀
you could link like every word
, use it sparingly, where it does make sense
I do like how wiki automatically suggests the page you wanna link to if you write the same title
Saves so much time going back and forth
that’s why i left them as they were
i’ll make a new image for Specializations, and have that one go to Gadgets since it’s more accurate
– i was tired when i made those changes 
175+ msgs here, we cooking 
we cooking
additionally PLEASE, leave a comment on your Changes before Publishing. it makes it so much easier to track what’s going on
btw, the reason i left the Social banners the way they were is because that’s how i could currently keep the links
i’m assuming we can add links to images with a different method?
– they are not hyperlinked atm so we’re not redirecting users anywhere
Totally agree. It helps not turn it into a too many cooks situation
i literally just woke up, i’ll come back in a few 
we can i was gonna get started on that and learn how
awesome 
maybe set up a guideline to check out with the discord first
Great work on the wiki everyone contributing. Looking slick
for huge changes
@lapis kindle they now have links attached to the images [[File:THE-FINALS Wiki-Social Discord.png|none|border|300px|link=https://discord.com/invite/thefinals|Discord]] [[File:THE-FINALS Wiki-Social Twitter.png|none|border|300px|link=https://twitter.com/reachthefinals|Twitter]] [[File:THE-FINALS Wiki-Social Youtube.png|none|border|300px|link=https://www.youtube.com/@reachthefinals|YouTube]]
ooh so that's how it's done. thanks!
I’m afraid I don’t fit the light class at 6’2”
can that be pinned for future reference?
Luke the MVP of formatting
Do we need to put tags on the links for yall to see if people used the wiki to get to any of the social media or nah? @vagrant compass
Pog
What kind of tags? (I'm not extremely familiar)
you mean for analytics?
Ah, I see. I'm going to check with the team!
@heavy gale What page did you want me to try to edit? I've been made a admin so I should be able to check and see if I can put whatever CSS code you wanted in.
honestly i recommend the same - i have my own documents before plugging to the Wiki 
https://www.thefinals.wiki/wiki/MediaWiki:Common.css try adding .gun-slideshow { position: relative; margin: 0 auto; max-width: 1250px; height: 1%; } to see if it works @lone monolith
Where do I need to check if it's been updated?
The gun image slideshows?
it works, thanks @lone monolith 
I just wanted it for this one for now to set a default width
<gallery mode="slideshow">
File:M60 Standard issue.png
File:M60 dye job.png
File:M60 uniform lacquer.png
File:M60 Camo Splash.png
File:M60 winding fret.png
File:M60 criss cross clash.png
File:M60 totally ironic.png
File:M60 warped monitor.png
File:M60 iseult all kill.png
File:M60 ospuze quench your thirst.png
</gallery>
</div>
we will need to edit the Common.css and add some other shit to it most likely in the future anyway if we need to do styling and stuff
Damn that looks good homies
Who wrote that strengths and weaknesses bit 
He deserves a cafecito
And a stroopwafel
most the templates we end up creating will probably use the extension TemplateStyles so we can all edit the css (hopefully) which got installed today
gonna make some now
☕
that's great, i've used a bit of CSS before - just need to refresh my memory
I already gave him two cappuccinos
I love to take a look at css code and never touch it again
We are like the infinite monkey theorem but for wikipedia
If we bash our heads into our keyboard long enough we will eventually finish the wiki
The strengths and weaknesses of the V9S “does pew pew pew quickly, but tickled more than it hurts”
Every strength and weakness should just have is stronger then the AKM
Nah AKM is really nice
"Weakness: doesn't backstab, strength: shoots bullets"
Strength: you don’t have to talk with the other person. Weakness: you won’t make any friends
I believe that my bit about the sniper rifle kinda implies “your teammates won’t like you”
The pistol is decent yeah
Me too
I think the light generally has a great arsenal
SMG is pog, pistol was good too though
I never minded the AKM
The smg?
Nah akm is good.. it doesn’t need to be perfect
Its already a better homage to the real thing than any other game
I prefer the AKM over the rev mostly because I seem to suck at aiming with the rev
I think a lot of people don’t understand how cool that is
Haha OP nah
Its a skill check 😉
Slight nerf won’t upset me though
Slightly lower damage and add fanning
And I’ll give it my seal of approval
nice updated specializations @lapis kindle
qq: do we want to call them Arenas instead of Maps? - wondering if we want to use the same nomenclature as the game, tho Maps is easier to understand quickly
maybe call it Arenas and in the introduction refer maps to them?
ye that's what i thought
Sure
Arenas should be fine, don't think people would be that confused
Sounds like a skill issue 🤣
yeah i think that's true as well
¯_(ツ)_/¯
I actually wrote feedback on the revolver in the feedback because I dunno if I actually ever officially wrote feedback on it 
I know I mentioned it while playing with devs during the beta but not in any of my written feedback itself
The only feedback I said was saying I think the AKM should have a slightly faster rpm like 2 or 3 faster
I've changed the Loadouts gallery to remove the outlines and added links to the images
I think the AKM damage is fine And good it just needs to be slightly faster
Also done the same for the Arenas bit considering the images have map names on them
yes, that looks great for Main Page
should gadgets really be here
also, fuck whoever did this, WHERE'S THE CONSISTENCY 
That would be me half drunk doing it
What u drinking
Insomnia
Good drink
probably not
There's a lot of them so we could make a new page for them
Maybe
When the weapons page got hidden I was messing with combined tables, that's the only reason it's there. Gadget already has it's own table in gadgets.
thank you for putting an actual specialization there 😭
BARRELS
i did

just some simple banners to get going in the Main Page - we can always update them in the future

should we get a banner for Easter Eggs so that we can replace
👀
time to make a very minor change
This is why you don't try to remember gadget names off the top of your head 
I wish we had renders of all the weapons without relying on screesnhots :c
yeah
I'll probably start asking around for that closer to release
@vagrant compass could you ask if there is any way we can get the renders of all the weapons (excl. skins) ?
I mean for gadgets it would be great regardless
s p i n n i n g g u n
guns have have pretty good documentation/screenshots
we should add the in-game descriptions of Weapons, Gadgets and such somewhere in their pages (unless they already are, haven't checked)
#easter-eggs message
you literally have 1/4 of the results for the words glitch trap 😂
wait shoot make that 2/9
I was literally going off of my own writeup when I was making the table and still got it wrong 
I think they should just give us a steam branch which we can access the store/loadouts 
well that would still be a pain.. its easier if they just have a render for every weapon at exactly the same angle with no background nothing
just learn to datamine 🧠
this. it needs to be consistent across the board so it looks great
nononono leak the finals assets /s
Embark: we literally gave you guys the "hide UI" option


I agree I think we are at a point we are just gonna need renders from the devs
for the gadgets we do already imho
But I would hate bother them, I would feel bad lmao
well its nearly weekend so we need to be patient ;0 and maybe chunk it
not ask for everything at once
this the type of consistency i imagine
That level of consistency is gonna cause me to flatline
Same brother
it's not that hard if you know what you need haha
thats a horrible pun haha
this corner empty
time to insert the logo
I like my crappy puns
how do i put the logo there
requires embark staff I think
Embark or admin for sure
you have to edit the LocalSettings.php to change the location of the logos file
Lmao
btw, how do we add breadcrumbs for navigation?
choose a good extension I guess
By tearing off pieces of bread
now you need to change your name to Admin | Kyne
Yes
I for one welcome our new Kyne overlord
kyne promoted? pog
I apperciate simpsons references
Since my brain is melted and I am only capable of making simpsons and futurama references
Pretty good. Long week and absolutely ready for some weekend though
wrong gif haha
ah yes, give rpg to light 😂
Good luck
Honestly snort some caffeine that's I do
I may or may not be addicted to gamersupps
@heavy gale Do you know how to embed videos into the wiki?
We have two, one for Monaco and one for Seoul
i think you need the embedvideo extension
Seems we won't need link trackers for analytics for now (and also again Discord just does this for free which is nice)
Luckily we have an EmbedVideo extension now, we might be able to just use the upload function and then do [[File:VideoName.mp4]]
yes that should work
more info on usage is here: https://gitlab.com/hydrawiki/extensions/EmbedVideo/-/blob/master/README.md#usage
Doesn't seem to be working lol
xd
nah it works



lucky timing that the extensions got added today
Can you work on having it show up on the left?
alignment="[left|center|right|inline]"
you mean right?
I'll have a play with it
Video is now on the right
might want to change the description of the video
it follows the image format rules, so you can just do [[File:THE_FINALS_MONACO_MAP_OVERVIEW_CBT.mp4|thumb|400x200px|Video of something from something of something]] to make it on the right

do me a favour and move the [[File: bits above ===overview=== xD

Thanks, I hate massive blank white spaces above stuff 
the wiki looking very good though
Alter, exploit, and even destroy
that's cute
For the ee section kyne ? 🕵🏻♂️
Still waiting for something else 🕵️
Might end up putting that file in Weapons & Gadgets
The video is nice!
cool
might as well quickly write the S&W for the V9S now
what even are the strengths for it
I need to expandm y vocab for this kind of stuff haha
It's really good at medium range
it is only restricted to how quick you can fire it.
alright well I hope i did a good job
I tend to write these things more creatively because its more fun to read 😉
but making sure I don't BS it please read it over and give me pointers
I do!
ah, you not logged in?
oh I'm not logged in woops
I'll log in after I added some copy to the main page load-out screen. I love the new icons btw.. its fresh AF
"The combination of weapons, gadgets and specialization can change a soldier into a medic, an assassin into an opportunistic objective player and a tank into a brawler."
ooo, that sounds pretty cool
would be nice if we have some facts about the builds.. like how tall is a light?
2ft
Probably
Would be actually really cool to know, and I bet there's someone out there who can calculate this from screenshots
send it to the easter egg people, they're 
Haha you want us to guesstimate it? xD
Time to spam the team with questions again 
"those weird wiki people keep annoying me to ask you guys questions"
The real-life heights may be a well-kept secret or not something that was considered, either way it seems we've got no official heights to share atm. You might have to put your characters next to buildings and try to find out 
just need the light model and then we can measure it in blender/unreal
it might be 10cm who knows
Plot twist: the entirety of THE FINALS is actually compressed to a dollhouse size
(Please don't quote me on this, I am joking)
Luke I somehow broke the entire main page without actually changing anything

OHH
I know
Okay let me fix it
I'm a small brain baby
quick, before anyone else notices
what did you break?
I resized the image galleries
That removed the link association
So uh, I might've killed access to the entire wiki for 5 minutes 
<gallery widths="480" heights="240" perrow="3" mode="nolines" style="margin-left: 0px;">
File:THE-FINALS Wiki-Social Discord.png|link=https://discord.gg/thefinals
File:THE-FINALS Wiki-Social Twitter.png|link=https://twitter.com/reachthefinals
File:THE-FINALS Wiki-Social Youtube.png|link=https://www.youtube.com/@reachthefinals
</gallery>
Where would I put centre in here to centre the gallery?
I should've seen that coming

you might be able to try add |center to the images in the gallery
if not
I did save this while I was fucking around <div style="display: grid; grid-auto-rows: minmax( 3rem, auto ); grid-template-columns: repeat(3, 300px); grid-gap: 0.625rem; justify-content: center; padding:15px;"> <div style="position: relative; width: 300px;"> [[File:THE-FINALS Wiki-Social Discord.png|center|border|300px|[https://discord.com/invite/thefinals Discord]]] </div> <div style="position: relative; width: 300px;"> [[File:THE-FINALS Wiki-Social Twitter.png|center|border|300px|center|[https://twitter.com/reachthefinals Twitter]]] </div> <div style="position: relative; width: 300px;"> [[File:THE-FINALS Wiki-Social Youtube.png|center|border|300px|[https://www.youtube.com/@reachthefinals YouTube]]] </div> </div> which centers them
<gallery widths="480" heights="240" perrow="3" mode="nolines" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;"> try this
could also try that, might work
and looks cleaner in the source editor considering it doesn't support identing 
DREAM TEAM
before we had this in just one line and they looked better imo - but i understand you're placing them like the Arena images
I accidently made every gallery look like shit for a second but i reverted it
lemme refresh my cache then
it auto-adjust for me depending on screen-size
added this gallery in the Sponsors page - whenever we get new info that i can plug in then i'll link
then it might be that. i'll just pretend they're in one line 
if i look at it at 80% zoom they fall in
Is this where you've been for the past... hour?

yeah I though this setting in the gallery would set how many images are actually in a row, but I guess it's the max number of images in a row?
It's the max per row
nah this took me a couple of minutes. i was doing other IRL stuff

Do we know anything about Petronelle Plaza?
I saw you mentioned it in the Iseul-t page but I never heard of it before
we only know that it's a building named after OSPUZE's CEO, Sofia Petronelle
other than that no
Is it the building in the middle of Seoul?
ye, the one with the elevator in the center of it
we can add those details to Seoul page
i'll draft them up since that Arena is the one that holds the majority of the new "lore" regarding brands
Wilco 
ah ok
sorted the Arenas + Loadouts images
it's because the width with set to 480 and height to 240 and it couldn't fill the width of that size with the supplied height for the image, so it just had "blank" white on both sides of the images
so changed it to widths="366" heights="240"
so i don't actually mind bigger images when it comes to Arenas and Loadout
rn the hierarchy in images on the Main Page feels off
Petronelle Plaza, named after OSPUZE's esteemed CEO Sofia Petronelle, is a luxurious shopping plaza located right in the heart of Seoul. It is conviently located right next to the 6° Of Freedom Residence, and ISEUL-T Tower.
Something like that maybe
-- but this is just visual stuff from a design standpoint
i like it. just use Iseul-t in Sentence Case
6° Of Freedom Residence can be linked for its future page, same as Iseul-t Tower for that matter
Yeah
we can make them bigger, we just need to make sure we don't go too big of a width compared to the height, like if we did 700 width with only 350 height it would cause a lot of blank space like this
ye, it adds bleed - gotcha
in that case, maybe we just need to adjust the scale for the Sections below Loadouts. so they don't look as big? just a thought
also fixed the easter egg picture even though it'll be changed soon probably as that was just a box of white space
yeah, we need like a sizing guide for stuff at some point
I do love those social banners though
and now they're in the middle, looks even better
this made me think I am wasting my time hahaha
yeah its.. I didn't know there were that many sponsors already
never saw them added up like that
holy shit there's a lot of sponsors 
tbf i've been keeping track of them because lore 

and i've also vectorized their logos for my videos so
About to rename you to Lorekeeper | SPEAR
noice, so got a load of SVGs?
ye i just uploaded the .pngs in the meantime
but will upload .svgs when they get pages/more info
Want me to go ahead and work on the Seoul page for you SPEAR?
sure, i mean you already created it. just need to add that type of lore info
I've spent most the time looking at the wiki today instead of actually doing my real work 
joys of Friday having nothing on I guess
thats why I do small bits each day
The Plaza and apartment complex are both 5 stories tall right?
i think? i haven't done my architectural analysis on them 

I'm just waiting for a person to recreate all the maps into a 3D map image like people do with tarkov
this is great
I'm asking if the team has any names for these places so we can continue filling it out
Seoul is easier 'cuz the buildings have names 
The probably with Monaco is there's really only... 3? places of any note to list of. Church, Construction Yard, Courtyard?
ye, there's also that one Cashout station near the coastline
but it isn't a POI per se
The Cathedral of Our Lady of the Immaculate Conception (in French language: Cathédrale de Notre-Dame-Immaculée), but sometimes called Saint Nicholas Cathedral (the name of the old church which was demolished in 1874), or Monaco Cathedral (French: Cathédrale de Monaco), is the cathedral of the Roman Catholic Archdiocese of Monaco in Monaco-Ville,...

that's a very cool addition
only thing I can find for the hospital is
and authentic ;D showing its a real location ❤️
criminally underused location
Ha you clearlyt haven't teamed up with me
tbf we're currently not playing the game - so it's hard to write about aspects of it from memory or footage
We might want to come together and agree on what to call some of the environmental things
What do we call the pre-place jump-pads? Launch pads?
Launch Pads works for me
I think launch pads are probably the better descriptor for it
launch pads is good
Mega Jump Environment Launchers
Jumpy Bois
okay, I re-added the wiki reference
I mean we can put in the page for the catherdal what it's inspired by but I want to use the name of the church in game, not whatever it's based off of
what is the name of the church in the game?
We don't know, that's why I just labeled it Catherdal until we know for sure
I highly doubt that they made up a different name for a game that identifies the arenas as iconic locations 
I think I got a shot of the Mendeleev statue in a game. Dang, that’s gonna be hard to find.

You know he’s on the Monaco map?
I did not
now I remembered why I wanted TemplateStylesExtender, sadly only for 1.39+ apparently
, luckily we don't need it, just would have been for convince of adding css vars
Has Dusty come back to you yet?
If not, dm me what you need and I can ask her
It all got installed apart from TemplateStylesExtender
for obvious reasons now (incompatible with our version of MW) 
Oh, ok, great!
I'm just getting infoboxes sorted on my VPS so I can understand how the fuck they work correctly before I get you or Kyne to import a fuck load of templates and modules
Did we confirm that was him?
I got a clean screenshot but I’m away for a week and pc is off
It did look like this iirc
Just the bust
It looked like him to me
Yeah it’s the first thing I thought
mostly got info boxes working, just need to find what we could add to it to make it seem full and also sort out the styling
mag size and fire rate maybe?
problem is.. thats probably gonna change before the next time we get to play..
but then again so might the damage
Yea... but it can be later changed after release, so it's not a huge problem
It's quite easy to change the values tbf
Rather keep what's witnessed
than waiting till be witnessed new changes and add it up
ALL HAIL THE WITNESSING!
Anyway
anyone wanna give me some pointers on the strengths and weaknesses of the LH1 in the final few days (post nerf)
High mag count with high damage also quite fast ROF
Can destroy at long range, medium range and short range
we need weaknesses haha
yeah but thats.. like saying the sniper's weakness is that its not full auto xD

didnt they decimate the mag count?
to like 15
or that the knife is bad long range
Knife face damage 🤣
the LH1 doesn't really have any weaknesses from what I could tell whenever I used it
The recoil tho
ok so I'll just note down its not great at having conversations.

Lh1 not have as much rizz as the other weapon
I would say it suffers from inaccuracy at close range, and high recoil.
Sounds about right

What exactly is the LH1 based off of
"When equipping this weapon you risk all your relationships just to get a cheap kill" amazing
M1A I think
M1 garand
that is the best description ever for a weapon
ok I made a more serious version
its one that we'll likely change a few times but okay
when we get an image on the LH1 page, we need to make the alt-text the 1st description just to see if anyone notices
I can do it now
done
please check the log too xD https://www.thefinals.wiki/wiki/LH1

this one too
jesus
Haha
ok while the gadgets aren't done yet I akm taking an opportunity to troll ad friend.
I can see how many actions everyone has done
who's the top 5?
Me, Povich, Spear, You, Scuttlecrab
ayyy top 5, nice
Looks good
Can you control the colors of the infobox?
I can give you the right color code if so
yeah, it's all done in http://vps-7a93429a.vps.ovh.net/mediawiki/index.php/Template:Infobox/Styles.css
I would like to thank wikipedia and starcitizen wiki for allowing me to fuck with their Infobox modules/templates 

I suggest we use the yellow for the accent so we get it represented a littl too and the wepaons have the yellow text so its more fitting
^^^^
how about something like this http://vps-7a93429a.vps.ovh.net/mediawiki/index.php/Main_Page
i would keep it as simple as dark background, highlighted yellow Titles, neutral white line divisor
I would do the yellow line divisor
Since we're eventually going to get matching colors
Good morning gamers
I might completely change the format though tbf and make it like
so it's more like a list
cheese

You could add the background story for the osthyvel in here
I'll grab the copy for it
sure
Rob Runesson in interview with RHB, March 2023: "A couple of weeks before the Closed Beta I was visiting an old friend. During dinner he told me a story about how dangerous a simple “osthyvel” (a traditional Swedish cheese slicer) can actually be… It was a hilarious story and I sent a text to Theodor (artist) and Oskar (animator) to suggest that it could be a weapon. Just two days later it was in the game.! For authenticity, they also scanned a chunk of cheese and then added the amazing slice taunt. The cheese is a Swedish traditional Prästost, you should try it when you visit Sweden, hehe."
done.
I think we should refer to RHB as "RockhoundBlack" on the wiki, as some new people don't recognise him by just "RHB"
meh, if Rockhound wants that.. I kinda like the humbleness
It's also good form, in general, to not use abbreviations without explaining them 😛
I'll let him decide 😉
Oh yeah, soz - RockhoundBlack please
I wrote that without thinking
In my own notes I use RHB because stoopid long name
You need to set a macro to write your own name 😂
In the middle of a firefight - "I was going to melee him with mouse button 7, but instead I wrote my name for him"
no capital H for Hound
I like the cheese actually reacts with environment which bounces off the walls and floor. I would imagine people seeing them slicing lol
Impressive details ngl
yellow looks good
yeah, unfortunately nobody but you can see tyhe animation
there we go, looks better http://vps-7a93429a.vps.ovh.net/mediawiki/index.php/Main_Page
thats hot
ignore the completely inaccurate damage
doesn't matter
once it's all finished and done, the code for adding it to a page is just
| name = V9S
| image = V9S.png
| image_upright = 0.5
| class = Light
| wtype = Pistol
| bdamage = 32
| hdamage = 40
| magsize = 20
}}```
- a few more fields once I decide what else needs adding
Who is Scuttlecrab btw.. xD
either Jag or GToast
ah
nice! 😮 so is the infobox extension active on the Finals wiki?
not yet
it's basically just templates and lua modules which is what we needed TemplateStyles and Scribunto for
which are active now
so it's basically just importing an xml file which contains all the pages required which admins can do like Kyne + Rockhound
I'll probably do a few more edits, see what else I can get going and then hopefully get the XML imported tomorrow and off we go
wonder if we can get the weapons rate of fire somehow
We just need to know who knows..
@formal latch sorry for pinging, thought asking someone else for a change.. who could help us with finding out weapon stats?
not me ,)
we have weapons in the game? O.O i only use c4, what was the question again?
nvm, I'll just stick to coffee related questions henceforth.
legmek might know!
thank you!.. I am going to bed, but we could consider doing that.. or better said.. @heavy gale your problem now 😄
I'll see what I can do 
thanks dude 😉 I saw you were still online so I thought path of least resistance
i am always online
too much coffee? 
sleep is nothing but caffeine withdrawal
Lol
no worries mate ,)
@cyan holly Hi Legmek, sorry for the ping however are you able to find out weapon stats (damage, rate of fire, anything stats related) or do you know who would be able to provide them?
not me, i'm GToast :p
makes sense 
you are not sorry
this is you rn
you are not sorry
^
you right
this is you rn
I'm thinking we should replace the sponsors tab with a WORLD tab
So it has the sponsors, misc corporations, detailed descriptions of the points of interest on each map, etc.
And I do think we need to accept its weekend so don’t expect those stats coming in 
true
The C4 charge is a strong high explosive charge that can be used to manipulate the environment by blowing out walls, floors and ceilings. It is also very potent to take down load-bearing pillars with a single charge. It is also a viable way to eliminate enemies from a distance. The C4 is exclusive to the Heavy build and is notably stronger than ...
pog
what is that link
its because of the ' in the name
ah si
he is cooking
that's a cool gif
yeha I'm looknig through my clips to get actual footage
hopefully we can get the infobox things put onto the finals wiki today
you busy @lone monolith ?
Very. So Overwhel- no lol
do you have access to https://www.thefinals.wiki/wiki/Special:Import ?
Yeap
@lapis kindle What do you think about this?
can you try importing that xml
This the infobox?
templates relating to infobox + modules and everything that it relies on basically
it's like 20 different Templates and 10+ modules or something like that
it might complain about interwiki prefix which you can just set to [[wikipedia:]]
This good? Or should I change the prefix to [[infobox:]]
i added the LH1 skins to the wiki
that should be good
the red glow
That's better
ignore the shit picture on top
i noticed povich has is in the center and idk to do it
those are bad screen shots hold on
how'd you do it?
You gotta put <div class="gun-slideshow"> before the slideshow in the source editor, that centers it.
and makes it a max-width of 1250 for consistency sake
i see thanks
I am surprised those infoboxes worked first try on the wiki
I was expecting something to break
it probably did
yeah, we'll see in the future 
also good job with the LH1 pictures 🙂
if anyone wants to add an info box for weapons, "edit source" and then just put this on the top and change the values {{Infobox weapons | name = V9S | image = V9S_Standard_Issue.png | image_upright = 0.5 | class = Light | wtype = Pistol | bdamage = 32 | hdamage = 40 | magsize = 20 }}
i don’t think we need this tbh, considering much of the world building in the game is through the Sponsors – in any case, we can just wait it out a bit to see how the lore develops

not a fan of outer-glows/drop-shadows with a white background. that’s usually for when you need it to pop from the background, which is not necessary here imo
(but this is just my bias as a designer)
Think it'll be fine when we get the wiki styled but now it's just a bit... weird lol
well no I don't think that should be a style we want to pursuit 😉
it should be the gray/black + one accent color imho and no dropshadows or other effects haha
keep it simple
if you wanna go with a “style” just follow the Brand Guides
the brand guide doesn't really include wiki haha, but the game style has flat design if that helps
removed ze box shadow
also css for the infobox is here https://www.thefinals.wiki/wiki/Template:Infobox/styles.css
Rip the shadows
Bet
hehe, SC wiki does look good right
its made over a long period of time and with ALOT of people involved
personally not a fan of having to pay to get a lil digital magazine to extract images from lol
wdym, is it paid?
not the wiki but most of the images of easrly concepts etc are behind a paywall
or at least used to be
they might be a little nicer nowadays
It only took us banging our heads into our keyboards to make it work
I mean concept ship concept art is always released on the website aswell
I think just more is on the subscriber newsletter
https://github.com/StarCitizenTools/mediawiki-skins-Citizen just steal their skin 
yeah
^^ it's all modular so it's really just a list of pieces they used to make their site look like that
we can always use some of those too
so many components to it
as much as I do like the star cit skin, I think having the page a bit wider than it being only 30% for content would look better
sheesh, mans rolling
awesome, I'm gonna watch a movie and then should be back in about 2 hours to help out with anything
what movie
Murder mystery 2
interesting
pretty decent movie





