on the ZX80?
#easter-eggs
sharp flame
it's the 9 key on that
I can't find it on the Spectrum or ZX81
OOOOOH
the capitalized "Dwelling" is the start of a phrase
Dwelling on the past
Not sure if this is intentional at all actually.. but hear me out
Bill Haley, Musician, before a mysterious death, is quoted in a Biography to be monologuing to people on phone calls before his death
The quote presented on Wikipedia is "He would call you and ramble, dwelling on the past ..."
Bill's band was named Bill Haley with Haley's Comets
(pronounced Halley)
basically "Dwelling on the past" comes up word for word in a quote about Bill Haley, who led a band called Bill Haley and His Comets
*(the joke is that **Halley *is actually pronounced like "hailey")
and his band is named after Halley's Comet
Edward Halley's original grave, it is said, can be seen when standing in the Camera Obscura at the Royal Observatory, Greenwich
the idea of the Camera Obscura also seems to crop up a bit here
cedar owl
This clue set is bigger and more connected than Cowslip/s warren!
proud minnow
Hpe they dn't get snared by the wrng rabbit… ._.
sharp flame
nevermind I will not be going to sleep
hidden nacelle
hidden nacelle
another flower?
sharp flame
Cowslip is a rabbit, Cowslips Warren is a rabbit hole
solar glade
sharp flame
interesting Dusty used a / instead of a '
sharp flame
Os have been missing from Rob's last three clue messages
maybe this is what he means?
pure loom
Adams's descriptions of wild rabbit behaviour were based on The Private Life of the Rabbit (1964), by British naturalist Ronald Lockley.[13][14] The two later became friends, embarking on an Antarctic tour that became the subject of a co-authored book, Voyage Through the Antarctic (A. Lane, 1982).
AntARCtic #confirmationbias
sharp flame
Our clues in this one are / and O, add them together, and what do you get?... conformation bias.
pure loom
@sharp flame every time you 👀 a post I think it might be Rob doing it hahaha
neon stream
<@485406144903512084> every time you 👀 a post I think it might be Rob doing it ...
We should ban reactions from this channel 😂
"Official use only"
pure loom
Hehe
sharp flame
If we stop using 👀 we can probably get some sort of filter which collects all of Rob's 👀s for better perspective
or not hahaha
sharp flame
I think Dusty putting / is just to build on 47 being used earlier
if we didn't get that already
perhaps there's a specific origin to the / we need to look at?
Cowslip:
pure loom
Inb4 Byzantine Empire
sharp flame
Pliny the Elder comes up loads
he appeared in some Solar pages and also geometry
He died in the Eruption of Vesuvius, 79AD
pure loom
He died in the Eruption of Vesuvius, **79AD**
Wow. I didn’t know that.
fallen jasper
fallen jasper
Rob you can't keep doing this to us the misery 
sharp flame
"in the dedicatory preface addressed to Vespasian's elder son, the future emperor Titus"
"Pliny uses Aristotle's division of nature"
He talks about Gold in length (Au from the first image..?)
pure loom
Pliny's work frequently reflects Rome's imperial expansion, which brought new and exciting things to the capital: exotic eastern spices, strange animals to be put on display or herded into the arena, even the alleged phoenix sent to the emperor Claudius in AD 47 – although, as Pliny admits, this was generally acknowledged to be a fake. The Phoenix raises its ugly head again 
fallen jasper
Can we take Darnoux's right to post a eye emote or reaction away
AD 47 - Romans build the Traiectum fortification near the mouth of the Rhine, which will later grow to be the city of Utrecht.
sharp flame
Rob's probably just waiting for us to get something right 😭 before giving the 👀
I really think this'll all come together if we figure out those damn missing letters
Since it ties all the way back to Caracter
I think the clue is that there are letters missing, not the actual missing letters
pure loom
interesting Dusty used a / instead of a '
Maybe the ARC clues and the / point to the answer being entered as a URL on the ARC Raiders website? Or the answer being there? Please let the answer be “alpha” 
sharp flame
Level 2 is probably gonna continue past release isn't it 😭
pure loom
#friendyouhad 
neon stream
"Where did I go wrong? I lost a friend 
, somewhere along in the easter eggs" 🎵
pure loom
Maybe the ARC clues and the / point to the answer being entered as a URL on the ...
If this EE pans out like this, it will be brilliant
fallen jasper
I'm currently working on a timeline
sharp flame
I'm currently working on a timeline
legend 🙌
fallen jasper
idk why the cover is still that I changed it already lol
A wall format, a stream, grid, shelf, map, canvas, and timeline.
sharp flame
Looking great!
sharp flame
I need a better thing to put under the images than
Name of the image?
fallen jasper
looking good
solar glade
looking good
ooh i like this layout
fallen jasper
zenith crown
needs comas after the i and after remorse
fallen jasper
neon stream
This clue set is bigger and more connected than Cowslip/s warren!
hmmmm I guess "set" "bigger" and "connected" could reference sets in math 🤔
not sure how that helps 😂
sharp flame
needs comas after the i and after remorse
comas, like getting knocked out?
sharp flame
hmmmm I guess "set" "bigger" and "connected" could reference sets in math 🤔
Lewis Carroll (Alice in Wonderland) was one of the first to popularize Venn Diagrams
(in the book Symbolic Logic)
sharp flame
We're taking longer and longer 😭
fallen jasper
Yeaaah
Time taken:
Geocache: 11 Days
T1A: 7 Days
T1B: 19 Days
T1C: 18 Days
T1D: 31 Days(ongoing)
lol
sharp flame
Oh dear
It's probably safe to assume these messages from Rob and Dusty are attempting to point us directly at the answer then
Roman (Telescope), (Halley's Comet)
mortal ivy
<:thonk:657239099656241210>
🕯️ I will never forget 🕯️
sharp flame
110D631 is still making me lose hairs
fallen jasper
Halley may have been recorded as early as 467 BC, but this is uncertain. A comet was recorded in ancient Greece between 468 and 466 BC; its timing, location, duration, and associated meteor shower all suggest it was Halley. According to Pliny the Elder, that same year a meteorite fell in the town of Aegospotami, in Thrace. He described it as brown in colour and the size of a wagon load. Chinese chroniclers also mention a comet in that year.
mortal ivy
Imagine thinking T1B was drawn out 👀
solar glade
Time taken:
Geocache: 11 Days
T1A: 7 Days
T1B: 19 Days
T1C: 18 Days
T1D: 31 Days...
i don't blame us. work (holidays) or school (finals), for some of us, preventing from helping out this time around 
sharp flame
on holiday rn, but nothing better to do atm
Aristotle published theories on the nature of asteroids
mortal ivy
And don't forget about Pokémon release, it was the reason I stayed away haha, now it's just to late to dive back in 🤷
mortal ivy
llodbel?
sharp flame
LLODGEL
mortal ivy
oh yes, a G, not a B
sharp flame
Nearly a word
but not quite
Without the 1s on each end it's just 'lodge'
but that's cheating
mortal ivy
quiet a few results on google for llodgel nontheless
neon stream
Hmmm
Lodge...? Compasses...?
Was one of the letters missing a G? 😂
Aren't Lodge and Dwell synonyms...? 😅
neon stream
timid solstice
I tried leetspeak with that before, remember that 1 can be L or i
pure loom
It's probably safe to assume these messages from Rob and Dusty are attempting to...
Why do you think that?
neon stream
'cause they got tired of us running around in circles 😂
sharp flame
They'd want to
well either that or they're trying to clear up loose ends
they surely can't just be introducing new threads right..?
neon stream
maybe they are just to punish us for taking so long /s
mortal ivy
@ Rob and Dusty; Please make a totally unrelatable clue that takes an entirely new angle to the puzzle, to make it easy for us that has sat this round out to come in 🧠
neon stream
@cursive flare we need help 😂
(I think it only works with DMs)
(hopefully mentioning it doesn't ping anyone. If it does, sorry 😅 )
pure loom
Maybe the answer is “blackhole,” like this Easter egg.
mortal ivy
We have been down that path before, when we didn't even come close to these amount of days 😂
pure loom
mortal ivy
We had no idea just how far the rabbit hole could go
pure loom
Arcraiders.com/ee - this Easter egg game is unplayable!
sharp flame
Arcraiders.com/ee - this Easter egg game is unplayable!
Looking at the Arc Raiders error page only solidifies to me how intentional the TF 404 page actually is
pure loom
I tried /arc too, just FYI
sharp flame
Ooh I'm liking this new red
hardest placebo I've ever swallowed but it looks great !
pure loom
Makes him look angry
neon stream
Not the goofball purple memer anymore
He got demoted 😂
sharp flame
Honestly purple would still suit Darnoux, since it doesn't represent anything else atm
mortal ivy
His royalty is still hidden beneath the red
Merely roleplaying as commonfolk
purple 4 lyfe 💜
sharp flame
Then you'll love that final mobile wallpaper haha
shameless plug I'm sorry
💜💜💜 no problem at all
idk why but its such a good fit for my phone
whew
sharp flame
Which?
sharp flame
It's... on the rainbow too so it could work
Back
Ground
it does seem like BG shouldn't stand for background, but it does
solar glade
It's... on the rainbow too so it could work
haha indeed
solar glade
it **does** seem like BG shouldn't stand for background, but it does
agreed, at least in my region is used like that
sharp flame
<:spear_lol:839199209425338429>
By the way I love that you use your own emotes
very personalized
and you have a 'yes' 😭
mortal ivy
It's all about brand marketing
solar glade
indeed! i commissioned some of the emotes to a friend artist of mine for my Twitch channel and i use them on Discord as well
anyway, sorry for derailing the convo. let the hunt continue
timid solstice
Maybe the answer is “blackhole,” like this Easter egg. <:kek:964494968611815434>
That would be ironic, as I changed my pic to a blackhole close before this tier
sharp flame
You... knew all along
timid solstice
Oh no it was after t1a haha so long ago
latent peak
Could this be a black hole though ? Or what do you guys think this is about ?
Is it appearing or dissapearing ?
neon stream
found @timid solstice pfp
timid solstice
sharp flame
https://tenor.com/view/point-nicolas-cage-gif-8067385
I'm really sorry to say this, but I think your profile pic is outdated
55 million years 😔
neon stream
"Warren of Snares" is another name for "Cowslip's Warren". So is "Warren of the Shining Wires". Not sure how that helps, but I doubt Rob's choice of words are a coincidence...😅
The publisher of Watership Down is "Rex Collings". I know I sound like a lunatic by now (probably true 😂), but I think all these "rex/rey" references are for "king" 😂
pure loom
"Warren of Snares" is another name for "Cowslip's Warren". So is "Warren of the ...
Snared can be rearranged to “redans” which is the plural of redan - an arrow-shaped embankment forming part of a fortification.
Shining wires seems more likely. I’m still thinking the arc line is possible with this.
pure loom
You know the rabbit holes are extensive when you’re looking at the history of sewing machines…
latent peak
lol how did you end up there ?
pure loom
lol how did you end up there ?
I’m trying random combinations of words from the clues as Google searches - a technique I’ve started using and did get me to the “Arc” path. I think it was from “Euclid White House”
Some wealthy sewing machine manufacturer living on Euclid Ave Cleveland.
latent peak
haha got ya, im kinda doing the same, but with "oval/ellipse" as a path
pure loom
Interesting, the letter o’s graphic form has remained fairly constant from Phoenician times until today. The name of the Phoenician letter was ʿeyn, meaning "eye", and indeed its shape originates simply as a drawing of a human eye (possibly inspired by the corresponding Egyptian hieroglyph
sharp flame
I wonder if all the 0s with the cross through them are just references to Saturn, all of the 0 clues too
like the Mayan one
as it means 'empty'/zero
pure loom
It’s worth reading through these couple of pages: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/O
Note that chevron shapes can represent the equivalent of an “o”
Also the Syriac version is VERY similar to the Embark logo
Apparently in modern Hebrew it is omitted completely, phonetically
latent peak
It has to be something round thats for sure..
The last picture has 3 clues to a guy almost obsessed with an ellipse.
An equation for an oval/egg.
Several ovals scattered in the background.
White house could be the oval office.
A mayan oval symbol.
But then a direct reference to 2061..
sharp flame
Agree
pure loom
It’s possible we might need to dive into some languages that use glyphs
sharp flame
An ellipse is symmetrical horizontal and vertical
but an oval is egg shaped
thought that was worth mentioning
sharp flame
I wanna say one of the first things that comes up in its description is "projective geometry"
the wiki page for oval is actually quite connected
latent peak
just at the oval wiki page theres like 3 direct connections. Though it is a shape
haha
sharp flame
"Cassini believed that the Sun traveled around the Earth on one of these ovals, with the Earth at one focus of the oval."
hey hey hey here
I was considering ovals and orbits to be connected here
cause Halley's comet has a very oval orbit
"an oval is a figure constructed from two pairs of arcs" for you Rockhound
oh shit
I think we're on the right track here
pure loom
I didn’t know the word oval comes from ovum - Latin for egg
latent peak
Colluseum is a big oval
sharp flame
👀 ' jumpscare haha
latent peak
Lol
sharp flame
So Ovals are probably what was pointed towards from that equation (obviously)
latent peak
Robs kinda spamming ovals at us lol
sharp flame
Oval Office is pretty apparent too
pure loom
Oval Office is pretty apparent too
True that
latent peak
Roman was a hint too the other day too..
sharp flame
Superellipse / Piet Hein has plenty of clues too
boreal trench
Just thought id chuck this out there, in Waterside Down the rabbits viewed the sun as a god, he created the world, the stars and all animals. You could say they considered him to be the centre of everything. Not too different from Copernicus. https://watershipdown.fandom.com/wiki/Lord_Frith
sharp flame
okay okay I think we have something at least
pure loom
Yeah, ovals is a good rabbit hole - albeit a very broad one
sharp flame
The Colosseum was finished in 80AD, so one off
it was started under Vespasian's rule until 79AD
and finished under Titus' rule 👀
waiiit
We were looking at Titus' page as a place of importance earlier
this is what it says:
we have 79AD checked off
and now we're looking at Colosseum
so surely this is it
Colosseum
/ovals
no just / as in or
sorry
It's named after Colossus Neronis
Colossus of Nero
which was renamed after Nero's suicide
to Colossus Solis
"after the sun god Sol"
oh shit
pure loom
latent peak
lol
sharp flame
pure loom
Off topic, but my cat has decided my laptop bag is actually a bed 😂
pure loom
👀
timid solstice
leaving ut letters
latent peak
oooh
pure loom
Hilarius
sharp flame
ellipsis stems from "leaving out"
timid solstice
Ok so back to Kepler then
sharp flame
so unless the missing letters themselves are supposed to add up to a clue, I think this is our clue
missing letters
ellipse
sharp flame
actually it could also be eclipse
from ek ‘out’ + leipein ‘to leave’
different origin but means the same
pure loom
SR or R
timid solstice
it now says 1 month ago 😢
timid solstice
I was akf yesterda, need to check out this new fancy padlet timeline
pure loom
Just posting this for reference: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ellipsis
sharp flame
Kepler's associate being Ulrich von Eggenberg is just funny to me
Kepler was also involved in making an early telescope (like Galileo)
such as the Roman telescope
and it seems Kepler is honouring Aristotle with his 'new astronomy'
Kepler described his new astronomy as "celestial physics", as "an excursion into Aristotle's Metaphysics", and as "a supplement to **Aristotle's ** On the Heavens"
latent peak
oh it was Archimedes that we want to honor
sharp flame
Honestly I think at this stage we're honing into the answer
even if the padlet doesn't look like it 😭
A haunting image
sharp flame
is it just me or is there a very clear line between blur and unblur?
boreal trench
oh it was Archimedes that we want to honor
I'm pretty sure "honour Archimedes", means that we will shout Eureka! When we solve it.
latent peak
I'm pretty sure "honour Archimedes", means that we will shout Eureka! When we so...
Ooh. Yeah that makes sense
pure loom
I'm pretty sure "honour Archimedes", means that we will shout Eureka! When we so...
More like “Thank… Archimedes… that’s over!”
pure loom
An unlikely path, but kind of interesting names… https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eureka_Stadium
More triangles too
sharp flame
it looks like there is a symbol in those smaller circles, no?
and it's the same one
like the Z from earlier?
latent peak
Aah yeah i can see that..
latent peak
ᕒ Σ ⵉ
These are the only symbols i could find that's remotely similar
I'm off to bed gn guys!
sharp flame
it looks like the same one as that earlier zigzag
boreal trench
More like “Thank… Archimedes… that’s over!” <:kek:964494968611815434>
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eureka_(word), its attributed to Archimedes, I think that is what rob meant.
neon stream
In the Spanish-speaking countries, Eureka + Eggs would be a reference to one of the sketchs of the comedy group Les Luthiers. I doubt this is the case now 😂
These guys are so funny, sadly many of them passed 😕
At least the group continues making shows with new members, I watched them live a few months ago. You can't stop crying of joy when you laugh at the jokes 😂
fallen jasper
Well
I've expanded the timeline padlet to be both a EE timeline and a community/game timeline.
Oh
I misread that
there we go
The mispelling has been fixed
That one has not been
sharp flame
ooooh
"In astronomy, the prefix Σ is used to designate double stars of the Catalogus Novus Stellarum Duplicium by Friedrich Georg Wilhelm von Struve."
but to be fair the symbol only barely resembles a sigma like this one
but this does look like it
fallen jasper
Looks a lot like it
sharp flame
double stars are all about orbits and this thing called the barycenter
which is the imaginary point between two objects which they orbit around
denoted with an X
sharp flame
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_of_Bethlehem
believed to be Halley's comet, very interesting
any other connection?
neon stream
It could have been the conjunction of Jupiter and Saturn
The "double stars" thing sent me that way 😂
sharp flame
Something pretty interesting I found in that page:
neon stream
"In 1614, German astronomer Johannes Kepler determined that a series of three conjunctions of the planets Jupiter and Saturn occurred in the year 7 BC.[8] He argued (incorrectly) that a planetary conjunction could create a nova, which he linked to the Star of Bethlehem."
sharp flame
Kepler (and later Cassini's son) tried to introduce Astronomical year numbering
which uses all the same values for AD/CE years
except it introduces a year 0
and everything before that is negative
fallen jasper
Hello Phantom Time Hypothesis
sharp flame
and there have been a few references to Jesus, the time of his birth and the place he was born
I can't quite remember
wait
yeah here
this event would therefore mark the Year 0
and now we have Halley's comet present at his birth too
Neither the concept of nor a symbol for zero existed in the system of Roman numerals. The Babylonian system of the BC era had used the idea of "nothingness" without considering it a number, and the Romans enumerated in much the same way.
only one way to find out...
sharp flame
"In astronomy, the prefix Σ is used to designate double stars of the Catalogus N...
***Secchi *revised Friedrich Georg Wilhelm von Struve's catalog of double stars, compiling data for over 10,000 binaries.
neon stream
*Neither the concept of nor a symbol for zero existed in the system of Roman num...
Yeah, they used "nulla" for 0. I tried it a while ago as password. No beans 😅
fallen jasper
Secchi also has a bust in Rome.
sharp flame
Secchi also has a bust in Rome.
it ends with "Roman" in Italian 👀 (college of Rome)
hey hey this guy is has ties too
he named Titan
but I found him when looking at double stars
he also invented photography
and this early photo of Copernicus crater says "by John Herschel" on it
it's the only one on his wiki page
not yet
it's said he made over 100 of those drawings
while at the Cape of Good hope
which seems to be one of the places that had a Halley sighting
nevermind
it's just one
John Herschel
wait that's him lmao
John also did Halley readings then
another connection
one of 10 people on the Wiki page
damn this guy is connected
also interestingly he lies next to Darwin
let me try and translate that
neon stream
I think the fourth line says he was an only child
sharp flame
wait what's lxxix doing there
neon stream
That's how long he lived
fallen jasper
Vixit is thing person saying of Vivo, which means I live
So it's bsically just saying I lived 79 years
neon stream
I think it says he died on the 11 of may
sharp flame
in 1871
neon stream
I'm testing how good my Latin is 😂
fallen jasper
Oh
neon stream
The benefits of Romance languages 😂
fallen jasper
"I survive 79 years" is bascially what vixit lxxix annos is
sharp flame
I'm studying Latin at the moment, so I should know this stuff 😭
neon stream
I'm studying Latin at the moment, so I should know this stuff 😭
Really? That's cool!
neon stream
I almost studied Latin, but figured Italian would be better
sharp flame
you can't say it isn't helping us right now
there's plenty of italian astronomy I was perplexed on haha
fallen jasper
I wanted to study Latin but they stopped doing the class the year I could take it in HS
😔
sharp flame
Herschel managed to get a crater name on the Moon, Mars and Mimas haha
MMM, good for him
neon stream
MMM, good for him
Upside-down, WWW 😂
sharp flame
man I just wanna find out what 110D631 means at this point
almost every other clue is now in the bag
except for the ones we haven't found
I was thinking maybe the 110th Day?
we don't know
could be the other way round
and all the numbers are letters
or the D could just stand for something (most likely)
cold forum
the D in THE DFINALS stands for Darnoux
cold forum
LOL
fallen jasper
?
cold forum
(a reminder that I know nothing about the EE hunt for real I just thought that was funny)
sharp flame
who did stuff on binary
fallen jasper
which observations are these? (what of?)
cold forum
I'm nothing if not a silly little guy
sharp flame
and this X guy
cold forum
you canput <> around a link to take away the embed!
sharp flame
https://articles.adsabs.harvard.edu/cgi-bin/nph-iarticle_query?bibcode=1831MmRAS...
I'm trying to find out what an AR is
fallen jasper
which observations are these? (what of?)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Francis_Baily It was a report this guy put out when correcting Flamsteed's observations
sharp flame
I'm trying to find out what an AR is
declination (edit: it's not)
fallen jasper
Isn't declination δ?
fallen jasper
sharp flame
oh wait
I'll be honest I didn't know that lat and longitude were measured in minutes and seconds
my bad
neon stream
I'll be honest I didn't know that lat and longitude were measured in minutes and...
Yeah, they are angles, that's why
sharp flame
Yeah, they are angles, that's why
I knew that but I didn't know angles got into minutes/seconds
fallen jasper
idk if it's this but if it is 1104631 then this is probably the best we've got rn
sharp flame
on wikipedia it's hours minutes and seconds
how does that convert to degrees minutes and seconds
or is it like a clock (1 hour = 15 degrees)
neon stream
how does that convert to degrees minutes and seconds
I don't remember exactly, but I think 1 degee = 1 hr
sharp flame
I don't remember exactly, but I think 1 degee = 1 hr
bruh
just checked and its 1hour = 15degrees
neon stream
Oh ok 👍🏻
sharp flame
anyway 110 46 31 is Castor's horizontal coordinate
measured by John Pond specifically
it's not the actual horizontal coordinate but it's close
however Serpenger is right
a minute is 1/60 of a degree (which should then technically be called an hour)
which is kinda stupid
1 hour is 15 degrees
60 minutes is 1 degree
60 seconds = 1 60th of a degree
so an actual minute
but one hour is not 60 minutes, it's 900 minutes
like what
neon stream
Wait what???
sharp flame
60 seconds make a minute, 900 minutes make an hour, 24 hours make a circle
fallen jasper
sharp flame
anyway
Castor
is a double star
** Castor was first recorded as a double star in 1718 by James Pound, but it may have been resolved into at least two sources of light by Cassini as early as 1678. **
"Castor appears singular to the naked eye, but it is actually a sextuple star system organized into three binary pairs"
haha yeah
3 binary pairs
crazy
I think that might actually be what 110D631 means
even if it's just one measurement by one guy
I think I see a faint right angle edge here?
also I was talking about the edges earlier
there are plenty
and i think there are vertical lines coming from the top of the image
sorta like this?
proud minnow
(a reminder that I know nothing about the EE hunt for real I just thought that w...
Not even Dusty knows… ._.
proud minnow
Great job today, looks like you have everything you need… you just need to see the connection… it’s all connected… ._.
cold forum
Not even Dusty knows… ._.
Rob is the keeper of the secrets!
fallen jasper
sharp flame
I don't even know what we got right 😭
I hope it's the 110D631
been pulling hairs out on that one
proud minnow
You need much more than glue… haha… ._.
proud minnow
I don't even know what we got right 😭
It’s a bit tricky to know what you have, been trying to read through all texts a couple of times… ._.
sharp flame
looking through the list of space telescopes and rediscovered this:
fallen jasper
The timeline has been updated
sharp flame
"The Orbiting Astronomical Observatory (OAO) satellites were a series of four American space observatories launched by NASA between 1966 and 1972, managed by NASA Chief of Astronomy Nancy Grace Roman."
fallen jasper
lol
sharp flame
also kinda a probe
like Sputnik
Kepler (the telescope) also discovered double stars
"NASA's Kepler mission has discovered examples of eclipsing binary stars..."
pure loom
G’mornin’ all! 👋
sharp flame
G’mornin’ all! 👋
G'night! 👋
sharp flame
Great job today, looks like you have everything you need… you just need to see t...
No more clues, it seems we're close now
There's just something which connects them
that we don't know about.. yet
proud minnow
I didn’t say close, but you have everything to solve this tier… Perhaps we could produce another image for you later this week it is Christmas soon after all… ._.
hidden nacelle
I didn’t say close, but you have everything to solve this tier… Perhaps we could...
dew it
sharp flame
I didn’t say close, but you have everything to solve this tier… Perhaps we could...
Okay nevermind
we are not close
pure loom
Melbourne map confirmed!
sharp flame
I'd probably feel bad if we had to have a whole new image produced cause we can't connect our clues haha
pure loom
Finally, a map with good coffee
sharp flame
maybe a Namatama would suffice
proud minnow
Haha, ok this tier is a little bit tricker compared to previous challenges, however the solution is not that tricky…
Three clues (primary clues/keys) are needed to solve this tier (and yes they have been there since Brown Eyed Girl… ._.)
The primary clues have been presented in 24 different ways so far during this level.
Another 24 secondary clues that all are pointing to these primary clues have been hidden… around 30 tertiary clues are pointing to the secondary… then around 25 quaternary clues that points to the tertiary have also been hidden during this tier.
Ohh, and then there are there are 8 “golden clues” so far in total that leads directly to the final tier of Level 2 - The Promise.
sharp flame
WHAT
proud minnow
So I think I’ve been very nice… .___.
sharp flame
golden clues😶😶😶
proud minnow
golden clues😶😶😶
Exciting right.?!
fallen jasper
8 of our rising stars are Embark plants I see
sharp flame
So I think I’ve been very nice… .___.
Appreciate all you do Rob ♥️♥️
but let me go cry some more
how would we even know if they were golden, or if we found them already 😂
I guess we'll know when we know
pure loom
Some labels would be good. So messy!
proud minnow
how would we even know if they were golden, or if we found them already 😂
You wouldn’t but again things like that adds to the EUREKA-moment in the end… ._.
sharp flame
I'm guessing we won't be getting much help for that final tier 🥲
neon stream
I'm guessing we won't be getting much help for that final tier 🥲
No images
proud minnow
I'm guessing we won't be getting much help for that final tier 🥲
No, then you are on your own, that’s why you need all this practice and support now.
pure loom
The game doesn't release until we solve it
neon stream
No, then you are on your own, that’s why you need all this practice and support ...
I hope we can solve it before THE FINALS 2. And I hope THE FINALS 2 is not the same game with a different name... 😛
OW 👀
proud minnow
The game doesn't release until we solve it
It will, don’t you worry.!
fallen jasper
Rob you're going off the script I sent you
pure loom
I hope we can solve it before THE FINALS 2. And I hope THE FINALS 2 is not the s...
THE FINALS - Rob’s Retirement Edition
neon stream
Rob won't retire, he enjoys this too much 😂
sharp flame
The thing is, Rob's previous EE hunts remain unsolved 😭😭😭😭
pure loom
I’ll talk to the team and have them extend his contract to age 1064
sharp flame
so this is a scary prospect
fallen jasper
I'm sure once we get some fresh blood in during the beta we'll be a bit more secure
pure loom
I'm sure once we get some fresh blood in during the beta we'll be a bit more sec...
The BFEE discord has like 20,000 members. Volume of hunters does make it kinda easier, but also less organised.
Three times what we have now would be 👌
sharp flame
My entire neighborhood just had a blackout for the last 30 minutes, been stealing WiFi from the hotel across the road 😂
neon stream
The BFEE discord has like 20,000 members. Volume of hunters does make it kinda e...
Serious question. Would it be a good idea to have a separate server dedicated to the hunt? 🤔
sharp flame
wouldn't miss Rob's preachings for the world though 🙏🙏
sharp flame
Serious question. Would it be a good idea to have a separate server dedicated to...
Then Embark can't help us
or highlight clues
nearly as often as they do now
neon stream
We invite Rob and Dusty 😂
pure loom
Serious question. Would it be a good idea to have a separate server dedicated to...
Once the EEs are in-game, maybe, I reckon
neon stream
Right now yes, but if we are talking about 20k prople this might get crowded 😂
fallen jasper
y e s
solar glade
Serious question. Would it be a good idea to have a separate server dedicated to...
we did this with the Crypto-ARG in Apex. but rn in this hunt, i don't think it's necessary. when the game comes out, then maybe
pure loom
Right now yes, but if we are talking about 20k prople this might get crowded 😂
We will look back on these times fondly
From our padded cells
sharp flame
I assume Level 3 will include all of the juicier in-game Easter eggs
where you have to shoot a certain leaf 22 times to unlock a hidden pixel on a texture
the good stuff
neon stream
That's where we'll all go 😂
pure loom
where you have to shoot a certain leaf 22 times to unlock a hidden pixel on a te...
BF1 EE flashbacks
sharp flame
BF1 EE flashbacks
(also unsolved)
sharp flame
... ... ...
proud minnow
I will see if I can make you an additional little Christmas gift tomorrow… I have a couple of ideas starting to take shape in my brain… have a great day… ._.
fallen jasper
I will see if I can make you an additional little Christmas gift tomorrow… I hav...
Take care, Rob!
sharp flame
Man I don't even mind if The Finals is great or not, the Embarkers are amazing for putting time into this EE stuff
sharp flame
Gonna let this stew for a bit, and try and figure out what these 3 main clues are
Gn all!
fallen jasper
I mean he is Embark's CCO. You cook up some marketing images and concept art, hide a few Easter eggs in it. And you're golden.
(I know it's not that easy)
sharp flame
I mean he is Embark's CCO. You cook up some marketing images and concept art, hi...
I think he e does this out of work hours actually (the planning)
sharp flame
and these images aren't really being seen by most of the public
and probably won't be released on twitter or something
sharp flame
I think the image-making and clue inserting is done by his Embarkers during work, but the rest is spare time
so actually I really appreciate it
fallen jasper
It is interesting
Honestly I think it's mainly just promo material they wanted for their press kit. If you pay attention to what the things are actually called it starts making a little bit more sense? All of the weapon images for the last couple tiers were called promo, I could image they were making them when modelling the OSPUZE and ISEULT weapons, the newer ones have all been wallpapers.
sharp flame
Honestly I think it's mainly just promo material they wanted for their press kit...
It is, I was referring to the clue backend though
time spent hiding clues, thinking about how to theme them in relation to the answer
fallen jasper
No clue about the random Nama Tamas though. I'm guessing that might be made in free time or something? It does make me slightly laugh to imagine some artist drawing a egg holding a c a n o f b e a n s.
sharp flame
technically all of these are promo
neon stream
No clue about the random Nama Tamas though. I'm guessing that might be made in f...
I think those are Rob's
fallen jasper
I think the can one is the odd one out because it isn't on the press kit anywhere
The spartan one is
sharp flame
but I can almost guarantee that if they were for attention they wouldn't be posted in the EE channel first
or on the EE site
neon stream
Honestly I think it's mainly just promo material they wanted for their press kit...
I don't know about this. Some are quite EE tailored, it's probably easier to start from scratch than using existing images
sharp flame
And obviously if they have art and they have an art folder they're gonna put it in there
k I just checked
these are additionally made i think
neon stream
Accessing Embarks servers, ez
sharp flame
Hacking of course
anyway yeah, Rob's artists are probably supposed to be working on images other than the EE series
they just make this cause they love us ♥️
neon stream
I'm glad you said "serpenger" and not "some crazy idiot" 😂
fallen jasper
I'm glad you said "serpenger" and not "some crazy idiot" 😂
hmm
I'm not mean
Oh
I figured out how to get a link to a discord account
I'll talk about it in #🥚┇off-topic tho
latent peak
someone Photoshop that right now
timid solstice
Omg 😳
latent peak
Im sorry
tulip matrix
Jim Carrey would be proud
pure loom
Just to circle things right around - Van Morrison's Brown Eyed Girl initially had to be re-edited into an alternative version to make it acceptable to American audiences, due to its references to "making love in the green grass behind the stadium". There's always been speculation that the stadium was Glentoran's Oval football ground, but Morrison's former associates believe he was singing about a cycle track in Orangefield Park, now part of the Connswater Community Greenway.
neon stream
It's funny how times have changed, that would be a PG version nowadays compared to some lyrics... 😂
pure loom
It's funny how times have changed, that would be a PG version nowadays compared ...
So true
@sharp flame 
👀
sharp flame
Just to *circle* things right around - Van Morrison's Brown Eyed Girl ``initiall...
It was interesting here cause it's literally called the Oval
And Rob highlighted a stadium previously
pure loom
And Rob highlighted a stadium previously
Yeah, that's why I started looking more closely at this path
fallen jasper
Nice 👍
pure loom
And Rob highlighted a stadium previously
One path that comes to mind now, with the sports oval thing, is the Olympics as that would tie in both the oval and the Greek mythology side of the clues, potentially.
latent peak
Just realised the **Red Sports Caracter **is probably a reference to the van morrison song "Who Drove the Red Sports Car"
It also appears on the album 'blowin' your mind!'
pure loom
Just realised the **Red Sports Caracter **is probably a reference to the van mor...
Great observation!
latent peak
Great observation!
Thanks! Unfortunately it brought us no step further 😀
pure loom
Thanks! Unfortunately it brought us no step further 😀
So far!
pure loom
Just realised the **Red Sports Caracter **is probably a reference to the van mor...
Could it also refer to this red sports car?
In the song a women named Jane and Maggie are mentioned
Other red sports car drivers?
slender lodge
pure loom
Lightning McQueen voiced by Owen Wilson
pure loom
Just realised the **Red Sports Caracter **is probably a reference to the van mor...
I don't think I realised that all the images in this tier are named after Van Morrison songs.
sharp flame
wait
so Caracter
has nothing to do with the missing h
oh thank god we can drop that
pure loom
The cycle of 24 state rooms culminates in the main festival hall, the Planetary Room and serves as both the beginning and the end of the ring of state rooms. The cycle of the oil paintings in this hall was created by Hans Adam Weissenkircher and displays the four elements, the 12 signs of the Western zodiac and of course the seven classical "planets" (planetes asteres: wandering stars) known to Antiquity. The cycle of paintings by Weissenkircher melds the architectural program with the ornamentation of the palace thereby achieving an allegory of the "Golden Age" ruled over by the House of Eggenberg.
Even if it's not connected, it's pretty cool
fallen jasper
Hans Ulrich von Eggenberg built it in the late 1620s. Do we have anyone that was active in the 1620s?
pure loom
It could be NORMA: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norma_(constellation)
sharp flame
The Louis de Lacaille guy on that page: "and was responsible for giving Halley's Comet its name"
This one is interesting cause it means "right angle"
Like the one I saw earlier
pure loom
sharp flame
B4V and B9V are examples of stellar classifications of stars in this constellation
Pretty similar to BIV?
'I' could either be swapped out for 1 or 9
pure loom
Pretty similar to BIV?
Where did we see BIV again?
BIV - could also be 24, or BD, or 215, or BAE
latent peak
I don't think I realised that all the images in this tier are named after Van Mo...
Ah right! I wonder what the clue is supposed to be. Moondance and astral week is the only clear connection i can think off
latent peak
Where did we see BIV again?
Biv was on the hat on the second picture. Assumed to be a clue for brain in a vat
latent peak
Ooh, some Rob reactions
sharp flame
Biv was on the hat on the second picture. Assumed to be a clue for brain in a va...
I think Brain in a Vat is probably more important of an aspect then
Linking to one of the 3 main ones (virtual world?)
The second ones seems to be geometry and ovals
(elements + egg/oval clues)
And the third is something astronomical?
unless ovals and orbits are the same 1
latent peak
I think Brain in a Vat is probably more important of an aspect then
Could be, I thought he might just not want us to head down another rabbit hole.
Did we find any other clues to the virtual world ?
sharp flame
Could be, I thought he might just not want us to head down another rabbit hole. ...
sorry that's what I meant
it's more important than the B9V or B1V or something
pure loom
Rob reacted to the following: Kepler, the Eureka (Mars) Sports Oval in Australia, The list that included: Cassini ovals, elliptic curves, Moss’s egg, superellipse and Cartesian oval; and ROMAN/NORMA
latent peak
sorry that's what I meant
Ah got ya!
sharp flame
Could be, I thought he might just not want us to head down another rabbit hole. ...
The matrix, Alice in Wonderland
BIV, Descartes
Maybe even the Tim Berners-Lee few clues could be pointing at simulated reality or something
I just wanna add that if fake reality is a main thread, we should probably be looking out for any Plato references
he's the og OG
My algorithms have have been suggesting physics and maths stuff at me all week haha
(not to scale)
pure loom
I think I have found a new clue in the first image
latent peak
👀
pure loom
For some reason my iPad won’t let me draw on this image, but I think the tiny pit marks on the left side of this mask represent stars and, specifically the ones just above the smile look like the constellation Sagittarius. To the right of that (just left of the eye) I think there is a faint representation of the Milky Way - it looks like a faint discolouration, but it’s definitely there.
latent peak
Oh
pure loom
That would make sense because Sagittarius is located in the heart of the Milky Way IIRC
sharp flame
Very plausible if we can get it to line up
latent peak
pure loom
Look at the dark streak lower middle centre and then compare that just left of the eye hole in the mask
There are 88 constellations.
Good luck.
The little scratches could be meteors. And if so, if it is Sagittarius, then that would most likely be a meteor shower in the middle of the year (when Sagittarius is overhead at night). https://www.amsmeteors.org/meteor-showers/meteor-shower-calendar/
These marks are pretty faint. I wonder if this is one of the golden clues that Rob mentioned?
pure loom
It might be better with a Star magnitude map which shows the brightest stars bigger and faint ones smaller
latent peak
It might be better with a Star magnitude map which shows the brightest stars big...
Not sure i can line them up unfortunatily
pure loom
Not sure i can line them up unfortunatily
I’ll have a closer look at it tomorrow as I’m only on my iPad now. At this stage, I’ll just say I think they’re stars with a faint image of the Milky Way just left of the eye hole in the mask.
latent peak
I had no idea
pure loom
TIL that the southern sky constellation Grus was formerly called Phoenicopterus and represented a flamingo 🦩
Inb4 celestial-flamingo-NamaTama
Yeah, that one I posted of former constellations or ones that have been modified
Here’s the main article: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constellation
And for a possible Watership Down link: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lepus_(constellation)
Plus this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moon_rabbit
sharp flame
I think I have some of the Tintin comics at home
I remember member reading the moon one
I wanna add that the 10th Tintin book is the Shooting Star
(for the animated series) 47 makes an appearance here
and it was animated by French studio Ellipse Programme
pure loom
I wanna add that the 10th Tintin book is the Shooting Star
That’s interesting!
pure loom
With Flight 714 to Sydney, Hergé stated that he wanted a "return to Adventure with a capital A...
Re the 22nd Tintin book
timid solstice
Just realised the **Red Sports Caracter **is probably a reference to the van mor...
Amazing! so the missing H was not for Saturn afterall
sorry for eyes spam was just catching up
The symbols in the smaller dots is different
looks like a guy running from a snake jumping over water 🤣
ok back to work for me good luck everyone
sharp flame
Ovals is definitely a main part of this stuff
boreal trench
I had a look back through all the clues we found to see if I could see anything that might be a primary clue and I feel like Saturn and Mars could be. Along with their orbits. Also not sure if them as planets or as Roman gods is the right way to go, or even as Ares and Chronos.
sharp flame
Orr the ovals are pointing towards Kepler and his orbits
sharp flame
Due to this one
sharp flame
Could someone play around with exposure, brightness, contrast to see if they can get a clearer image?
latent peak
Removing all but the blue channel reveals a lot of details in the picture
timid solstice
I wonder if we need to look for a specific Van Morrison song title like Moondance;
latent peak
This is as good as i can get this one
sharp flame
Removing all but the blue channel reveals a lot of details in the picture
If you zoom in next to the ear you can see clear lines drawn on
timid solstice
wow nice find
sharp flame
I'll try and make it readable
latent peak
V----sion
Thus .. ?
timid solstice
Tilus?
poetic form is concise: 10 syllables in three lines
The tilus (pronounced "tee-loo-hz") was invented by Kelvin S. Mangundayao.
timid solstice
Kinda works with the Gruks Poems clue
sharp flame
vespasian titus ????
"initiated several ambitious construction projects, including the building of the Flavian Amphitheatre, better known today as the Roman Colosseum."
Titus' dad
latent peak
That match!
sharp flame
the first word is 100% vespasian
I'd seen the -asian at the end
and there's a Ves at the start
Colosseum is the clue here I think
"In 75, he erected a colossal statue of Apollo" also interesting
sharp flame
Apollo is the Sun God
timid solstice
So the knuckles tattoo are TITUS then?
sharp flame
seems so yeah
Rob did say there were loads of clues which support secondary clues which support main clues
so I can't see why we can't have two of the same clue
but here we have Vespasian -- Titus
so it's probably something between them, aka the Colosseum which they are both known for
ooh
"Pliny the Elder's work, the Natural History, was written during Vespasian's reign, and dedicated to Vespasian's son Titus."
timid solstice
Is there something on the temple too? LM ?
Looks like that area was intentionally blurred over
sharp flame
can't see that one
I think we've covered that the colosseum is an oval ampitheatre
could the answer be also an oval building?
we've had multiple places which are ovals now
timid solstice
sharp flame
I'll be honest I can't see it at all
timid solstice
Below in the blurred area, I didn’t write directly over it
sharp flame
CM as numerals = 900
timid solstice
the way Vespasian + Titus is written is a like a coin catalogue
sharp flame
the way Vespasian + Titus is written is a like a coin catalogue
you're not wrong...
oh
hello Rob
sharp flame
but here we have Vespasian -- Titus
he reacted to this too
sharp flame
the way Vespasian + Titus is written is a like a coin catalogue
great find!
where did you find this?
reverse image search is not helping me rn
sharp flame
interesting, cause I can't find any other images that have that text stacked up like that
either way I think the coin is of Titus
latent peak
I feel like this is such an obvious clue. But I can't figure what planet it is.
sharp flame
planet?
it could be saturn with the rings?
it's also in a rectangular frame, if you can make it out
it's the only oval with those lines striking through it
and saturn's rings look a lot like that
latent peak
Oh right
sharp flame
maybe?
I can see it
I'm wondering why it's cut off by that random straight line though
the one in the "right angle"
here
you can clearly see a 90 degree corner right
also a weird one
not sure what's cutting off the corner of this light like that
the gun is ridged
and there is no bright yellow light on it
part for reference
as weird as his missing eyebrow haha
or his missing iris, like in Brown Eyed Girl
timid solstice
it's also in a rectangular frame, if you can make it out
I think this is part of the "lens flare" element that's been applied over this part of the image and is not blended
timid solstice
Sorry is probably a custom super ellipsoid bokeh effect actually not lens flare
Something like this and the lower left is a brighter and is making a right angle
https://www.freepik.com/premium-vector/effect-bokeh-circles-isolated-transparent-background-christmas-glowing-warm-orange-glitter-element-that-can-be-used_8228107.htm
sharp flame
"Hermann Zapf's typeface Melior, published in 1952, uses superellipses for letters such as o"
Rob's missing 'o's could be important here
since we know the missing h and d both are for different clues
compiled the last 4 missing letter clues
all of them are Os
aventure is the Tintin moon clue, and caracter is the VM song
so it's just missing Os
neon stream
Found this:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Red_Spot
It has a few links:
-Oval
-Jupiter (named after the king of gods)
-Cassini?
From previous tiers:
-Berkeley
-Spectroscopy
-Galileo (space probe)
But it's missing a few links, like the Vespasian/Titus 😅
sharp flame
Found this:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Red_Spot
It has a few links:
...
well it only has to capture 1/3 of the clues, since there are 3 main ones apparently
just read this and what the fuck
(pardon the language)
but like what
Earth????
for a single storm
"The Great Red Spot should not be confused with the Great Dark Spot, a feature observed near the northern pole of Jupiter in 2000 with the Cassini–Huygens spacecraft."
an extraordinary dark cloud on Jupiter
twice as big as Earth itself.
also wtf
jupiter's northern lights are massive
no, I think they've captured a diff wavelength, UV or something
insane view
"the asteroid was first identified as 1926 XH at Heidelberg Observatory"
worth a try
so many wiki pages open 😭
interesting astronomer born in 900AD (CM)
did work on models of the solar system
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Almagest and here is an important work that solidified the Geocentric model
pure loom
I wonder if we need to look for a specific Van Morrison song title like Moondanc...
Or perhaps a clue is more obvious when the image above your comment is orientated the same way as the right hand image of Van Morrison? So, flipped horizontally and rotated clockwise 90 degrees.
pure loom
Found this:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Red_Spot
It has a few links:
...
Interestingly, the Van Morrison Moondance album cover became so iconic because the photographer had to zoom in to Van Morrison’s face more to avoid capturing a pimple (a red spot) on his forehead.
proud minnow
Hi there.!
As prmised, here is an extra little gift for you, have a great day and enjoy.!
timid solstice
sweet! will look after work thanks rob and Embark!
hidden nacelle
proud minnow
sweet! will look after work thanks rob and Embark!
You’re welcome.!
hidden nacelle
weapon charm 👀
timid solstice
hidden nacelle
looks like battlefield 2042 art with blue and orange
pure loom
My immediate reaction is that the crossed weapons (rifle across, sword and fabric loop on his right knee) symbolize the constellation Crux - the Southern Cross (or possibly Vela, the ‘false cross’).
solar glade
Hi there.!
As prmised, here is an extra little gift for you, have a great day an...
such a beautiful image!
as per usual
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timid solstice
82
48
solar glade
bit of contrast
pure loom
What’s the thing with Ø and W on a scale, or is it an equation?
timid solstice
What’s the thing with Ø and W on a scale, or is it an equation?
my guess is XV is 15, 15 is O so;
O = Ø