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primal mortar
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I hoped Payday 3 would bring me joy until release of The Finals but holy cow......do NOT buy

limpid plinth
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Well damn.

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They cancelled Hyenas lmao

versed cradle
grand ember
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Not surprised

limpid plinth
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It does suck tho. Feel bad for the devs who spend their time on this.

void smelt
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Seems like lots of folks enjoyed it, and wasn't it just a beta anyways? Shame

versed cradle
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it got a lot of negative critique too from what i saw so dunno

limpid plinth
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I guess it didn't have the reception that Sega wanted.

uneven urchin
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It was totally getting Battleborn’d

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It would lose against any title coming out around the same time

limpid plinth
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Battleborn was meant to fail. Like it didn't look good at all and people were wanting a new BL at the time.

tranquil mist
uneven urchin
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And ow was better

tranquil mist
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this server is gonna have a field day with HYENAS' cancelation

tranquil mist
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WELP. GUESS WHAT. SEGA HAS SPARRED YOU

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So... Hyenas' cancelation was the result of a restructure of its European bases.

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...I... guess that makes sense?

hearty spire
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should've ended sooner

uneven urchin
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Except for lettuce but we ignore him

tranquil mist
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Guess CA's gonna return to Total War 3 then now that Hyenas' is dead.

hearty spire
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:)

lean hazel
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Hyenas could have actually gotten a lot better by adjusting a few things

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cancelling it is weird

limpid plinth
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It be like that when the big suits come a knocking.

lean hazel
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that’s every company now

limpid plinth
lean hazel
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no gamers only suits

hearty spire
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real

limpid plinth
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Ye gotta get their piece of the pie somehow

lean hazel
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activision suffered the most from this shit

limpid plinth
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Ruins a lot of studios.

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EA*

lean hazel
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Dice******

hearty spire
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EA*************

tranquil mist
lean hazel
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the suits have decided kek

tranquil mist
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Welp... guess its time to let it go

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when will new The Finals news surface?

lean hazel
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well we should definitely be hearing some news before the end of the year so soontm soontm soontm soontm soontm

tranquil mist
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Which games similar to the Finals that are available can I check out in the meantime?

lone stone
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wow even gifs dont work for yellow roles

tranquil mist
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Embed failure

lone stone
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epic fail

hearty spire
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only works in some channels haha

tranquil mist
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...oh

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You know, I should see about giving CS2 a shot

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Introducing myself to another Valve series in a way I guess? xD

versed cradle
ancient inlet
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holy, hammer actually looks good

ancient inlet
grand ember
lean hazel
ancient inlet
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gotta give the new hammer a shot

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considering evewrything got removed, what about vacbans? 🤔

versed cradle
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vac ban is seperate

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if u cheat in another game that supports vac, ure still vac banned in cs

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or at least account wise u are

ancient inlet
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😭

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just tried to trade my stuff from a banned account lol

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i like the store feature though

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the cs coin looks like minimal effort tbh

lean hazel
lean hazel
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ohne my silver 2 ❤️

ancient inlet
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where do i find Workshop maps though?

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wait does that mean i lost the maps i made????

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doesnt seem like it but do you know where i can find them ingame?

versed cradle
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his face LMAOOOO

granite vine
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KEKW KEKW bros gonna have the most expensive silver lobby load out there is

versed cradle
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we all prob gonna be hit with hard reset

ancient inlet
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even the crosshair man

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😦

versed cradle
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my xhair stayed

ancient inlet
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think mine did too but iot looks wayy to different

sacred oriole
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they should add ranking and a battlepass system to this i think it'd really help the game take off

ancient inlet
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it runs suprisingly smooth though

versed cradle
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2 deaths on round 1 KEKW

ancient inlet
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Lmao

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oh, he mightve disconnected and died because of that, respawned ingame and died again

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🤔

versed cradle
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insane

ancient inlet
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yup

limpid plinth
grand ember
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cs2 is making my monitor make noise 💀

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wtf

versed cradle
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uff wtf

lean hazel
versed cradle
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correct

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death to chicken.

grand ember
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is there a command to have unlimited fps? or is it stuck to ur monitor?

hearty spire
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chicken 😋

crimson jasper
lean hazel
versed cradle
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zelda taught me to never harm chickens

grand ember
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i have my fps set to 165 but im getting 300+

versed cradle
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cs is my only exception

crimson jasper
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genshin taught me that everything there is in the game must be harmed for loot

versed cradle
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if i see a chicken in cs i have to knife it KEKW

versed cradle
lean hazel
abstract walrus
crimson jasper
versed cradle
abstract walrus
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Have you guys seen the new discord update

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(I know you have Ekko)

versed cradle
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oh the icon things lol

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garbo, what is the point noot

fallow sequoia
versed cradle
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or wait, is this for your pfp?

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or just discord app icon

fallow sequoia
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The limited time ones were FREE WITH NITRO

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Why are they CHARGING SEPARATELY

abstract walrus
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It's avatar decorations

versed cradle
abstract walrus
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This fog one I'm using came free

versed cradle
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dont get me started on discord rant bro

fallow sequoia
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Another global emote scenario istg

abstract walrus
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I will buy every anime one just to be annoying

versed cradle
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u are a diff breed

fallow sequoia
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That's very normal kyne behaviour. He has a tendency to buy shit products

valid spoke
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Hyenas got canceled ):

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lmao

fallow sequoia
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LMAO OZZI

lean hazel
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sorry kek

crimson jasper
fallow sequoia
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bro is trying to make me burst out laughing on the train

abstract walrus
limpid plinth
abstract walrus
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don't make me point to the sign

fallow sequoia
limpid plinth
# abstract walrus

This ^^^^ Don't celebrate a game failing cause in the end people do end up hurting for it.

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Also @abstract walrus might want to zoom that a little because I could barely read it kekw

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had to get my glasses closer

sacred oriole
atomic cedar
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OOOOOOOOF

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I did not enjoy this game at all. Had issues running alpha. No one would help me. Finally get to play beta. Did not like it.

sacred oriole
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The game does not run on an intel Arc Series A550 graphics card

hearty spire
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well, now the game will not run on anything

sacred oriole
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lol

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embed fail T-T

void smelt
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Embeds for rising star are only in TF chat and media eggpet

balmy imp
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Anyone else pre-loaded their Xdefiant?

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I didnt get to the closed playtest they had but the open one is starting in a few hours

grand ember
balmy imp
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and register

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its Ubisoft so its expected to be confusing and not user friendly :insert_kekw:

grand ember
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its says im already registered

fallow sequoia
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Eoin you are the unluckiest guy I've seen when it comes to betas

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First cs2 and now this

limpid plinth
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no sign up req

grand ember
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when it comes to alphas/betas for games i want to play i never get in 😆

limpid plinth
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I am on the opposite end I get into about everything lmao

grand ember
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i had Xdefiant downloaded before

balmy imp
limpid plinth
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but regardless as long as people get to play.

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but it's ubi too

plucky marten
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dang, Hyenas got cancelled

ancient inlet
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anyone play hoi4 who can show me how to get the Northern Light achievement as norway?

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tried to follow youtube tutorials but they didnt work

storm lynx
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MY first game of Squad in months...
I'd say it's going pretty well 😂 👍

gusty cairn
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Why do I get the sneaking feeling phantom liberty is going to be just as soul crushing as the rest of the cyberpunk ip's

lean hazel
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It took me like 4 months to recover from edgerunners kek

ancient inlet
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@twilit sapphire

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holy, its laggy

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also it was mid drift

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nvm it was my monitor that made it lag

gusty cairn
ancient inlet
ancient inlet
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and sorry for tagging you alot

twilit sapphire
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Even tho I'm a FPS shooting gamer, I've experienced drifting games too ;>

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  • You kind of want to keep like an angle to be static than swinging your car left and right when drifting, it will make you be able to control your car and have more control over the speed
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  • Like speed, the faster you go in drifting, you will have a higher chance to keep control depending on the circuit's lines, like in a few spots in your video after 1:00 it's where you started to lose control and lost the streaks. If you have a good angle and you're too fast for the switching angle, don't try to turn into a higher angle to slow down... It will then make you lose your control over the next drift turn which you'll need to then stop and reset your speed and drift angle as also loosing your score streak
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Mostly try controlling the throttle and the break for most of the time, you will see big improvements

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  • Then handbrakes, as I saw on 1:40 you used the handbrake which sent your car to oversteer and drift which concluded to make you lose momentum for the next drift, but you tried to get it back by going forward to where the car was heading by switching side which you were sent to hit the wall. In my personal experience, the most time you would use the handbrake is when a necessary speed change to fast to slow for a tight angle to be able to not hit snything is best for handbrake. The best way to drift is to mostly use the normal break, because of using the handbrake (Which is way stronger) will def will send you to the dust
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  • When switching side, don't try to just press the throttle the whole time, if you saw a few angles you were, you kind of went to wide and then got close to the inner side because you had to tirn into a higher angle and made you LOSE momentum again, I wouldn't really suggest to always use the throttle to switch unless it's needed (It depends on how wide the angle and speed needs to be for the next turn) Or unless you will start loosing control over your car like how it started from 1:00
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Those are my tips that you should improve on to gain a much higher score and being smoother! ^^
@ancient inlet

ancient inlet
ancient inlet
twilit sapphire
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It made you oversteer to a drift

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If you see all drift games with handbreaks, you see that the car turns way faster when using handbrake than the normal brake

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Like this GIF which is not allowed to load here lol

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In rally you use the handbrake to reach a higher angle for tight turns

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Because the handbrake is the better brake to make the turn rotate to a higher angle

ancient inlet
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ah :/

twilit sapphire
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Don't blame me sad_friend

limpid plinth
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traffic b crazy

undone tide
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I just saw they canceled Hyenas

limpid plinth
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rip

dreamy agate
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😔

bitter barn
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Kinda crazy that a game that advanced in the development pipeline just got cancelled like that

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I didn't really like the gameplay style but it's nothing they couldn't adjust

abstract walrus
dreamy agate
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Hyenas got caught in the crossfire

storm lynx
abstract walrus
# bitter barn Kinda crazy that a game that advanced in the development pipeline just got cance...

Total War is having a PR meltdown as they've repeatedly mismanaged their last two games. Their new historical title is probably going to tread water at best and just fail at worst. Warhammer 3 has had long standing bugs not been patched for a year, overpriced DLCs, and just in general feeling rushed and buggy. Three KIngdoms got support cut from it when it's DLCs weren't selling well enough and it was the best selling historical title by far.

Now you have HYNEAS, a game that's been in development since 2018 and rebooted at least twice. No positive feedback from multiple tests, and next to no public interest in it.

storm lynx
tranquil mist
abstract walrus
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Let me take a look

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Uh, maybe Warhammer 2

limpid plinth
abstract walrus
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Before that... Alien Isolation? which was in 2014

dreamy agate
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The fans were mostly in the hyenas discord

storm lynx
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cyberpunk without the dash is way more boring tho

abstract walrus
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The gameplay trailer for the closed beta

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Had like 5k views

limpid plinth
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I'll prolly invest in dash if I do melee.

tranquil mist
limpid plinth
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I hated dash

dreamy agate
storm lynx
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fair

limpid plinth
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especially when the game came out and it was bind to the movement keys

storm lynx
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the dash that is in the game now is completely different than before tho

undone tide
storm lynx
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way more responsive and overall better

tranquil mist
abstract walrus
limpid plinth
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I don't really need it tho now. Mainly cause I'm just going guns and netrunning

undone tide
storm lynx
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dash can be useful during guns blazing too tbh, there are even perks for it lol

tranquil mist
storm lynx
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First Volition and now CA?
lol

tranquil mist
dreamy agate
tranquil mist
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And it's being worked on by Embark Studios, the people making The Finals

undone tide
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Hope so to. People have been kind of negative in YT comments about extraction shooters. But a lot of people have never played them and think they run like a BR.

balmy imp
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My review of Xdefiant from single match: it feels generic but i think thats good because it also feels like CoD but casual and actually fun

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Gunplay is somehow good even tho its fast TTK

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(said by a guy 1st on the current match leaderboard but still)

whole ermine
abstract walrus
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My game has a random child just sitting here

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Help

tranquil mist
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what the fuck kind of muzzle is this???

abstract walrus
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A supressor

lean hazel
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thats the average shotty suppressor

plucky marten
balmy imp
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nobody plays the objective in this objective centered game

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if you frag 27 people and dont capture a single point go back to playing fortnite

plucky marten
# undone tide Hope so to. People have been kind of negative in YT comments about extraction sh...

i hate how extraction shooters are being jumbled into one idea by the gaming community at the moment. the second any game says it’s an extraction shooter it gets pounced on for no reason. Extraction shooters are very different from each other, unlike something like a BR which is very restricted to the core BR concepts. core extraction shooter concepts are very forgiving and gameplay loops of extraction shooters can wildly differ

plucky marten
balmy imp
plucky marten
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like, hyenas and EFT are both called extraction shooters but their gameplay loops could not be more different even though certain mechanics are similar. like WTF gaming community

hearty spire
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hyenas 💀

undone tide
# plucky marten i hate how extraction shooters are being jumbled into one idea by the gaming com...

Same here! I think extraction shooters have the potential to be more successful. And for casuals being able to define a win for you and your team rather than having a giant circle force arbitrary fights, is better.

The industry still seems like they are trying to figure out what an extraction shooter is. For a brief moment at the very beginning people were saying that The Finals is an extraction shooter.

plucky marten
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(yes i’m indirectly defending arc raiders)

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(embark op)

hearty spire
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embark op

undone tide
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Extraction shooters give meaning and power to finding good loot. And gives even more incentive to engage in fights to get loot off of people, for your next games.

plucky marten
grand ember
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my internet is so shitttttttttttttt

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an hour+ to download 32 gb

undone tide
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True tbh. I had to endure battle royals for several years and I hate the genre. I never thought extraction shooter would be my thing until I played Hunt Showdown. ironically it's a sub genre in the BR department but I feel like it gives way more purpose to being good at the game, and in so many different ways.

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I had to wait out the BR hype, for Extraction shooters to come through. Now is the time!

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Really hoping Arc Raiders and Marathon can bring in enough people to explain how different an extraction shooter is from a BR.

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I don't think people realize Extraction shooters are a good medium between survival game, rogue lites and BRs

plucky marten
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yeah

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and maybe people are doing them now because they realize that they are really fun and engaging rather than because they only care about raking in cash and trendchasing

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but that’s just classic internet always being cynical

balmy imp
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Yeah i dont see any issues with extraction shooters, im eggscited for Embarks take on it with Arc

plucky marten
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the other thing is that i don’t even think the hyenas team even calls themselves an extraction shooter. gamers just labeled it that.

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this was in an interview with one of the hyenas people a while ago

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and if you aren’t cynical about everything then you’re a shill

undone tide
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Damn didn't even know that the gaming community gave them that handle.. :/

undone tide
rugged aurora
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Cities: Skylines 2 on console just got delayed til next year and I’m hoping The Finals is still on track for this year 😭

bitter barn
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Xdefiant feels much more polished than the closed beta, it was actually fun this time

undone tide
undone tide
bitter barn
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without downloading 300GB and awful menus + monetization

undone tide
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I'm down for that

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I miss old run and gun arcade like COD

bitter barn
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But not to sound like copying other people but being honest, nothing quite feels like thefinals

undone tide
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The small amount of time I got to play it, it's definitely different.

Been playing Battlefield V for practice 🥲

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Closes thing to it.

limpid plinth
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like having fraggers is good but if you ain't getting kills then focus the obj

plucky marten
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people say it just combines every popular fps into one but i disagree i think it’s its own new thing

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nothing has ever intentionally used destruction like this game does in its game mode

willow river
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its teardown + TF2 and TF2

zealous hawk
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as yes TF2 and TF2
man that never stops being confusing lol

willow river
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well, I'm right

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just in my own confusing way, as usual

plucky marten
willow river
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T+T+T=T

plucky marten
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the 2’s cancel

prisma perch
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Just played some of xdefient it was ok imo, felt kinda generic to me, just felt like usual cod gameplay with added Ubisoft quirk on top, gunplay was pretty good I have no complaints really on that, movement was standard nothing bad really, I just think it’s a game you might need to play with friends to not get bored really, to anyone who likes the game tho hope your having a fun time

plucky marten
prisma perch
plucky marten
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the xdefiant subreddit doesn’t seem to like it

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i mean better for the finals i guess lol

bitter barn
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I definitely like this Beta more, feels more fluid to me

undone tide
prisma perch
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Ong I think The Finals has spoiled me bro, every other game feels less than The finals (not saying they are) but I don’t get enjoyment like I do with The Finals, hope it comes real soontm

plucky marten
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even then, they didn’t have the physics based objectives like The Finals does

prisma perch
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True true

storm lynx
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Jesus Christ

gusty cairn
gusty cairn
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feck. youtube is already recommending me phantom liberty spoilers

undone tide
lean hazel
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Beautiful

storm lynx
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after doing every contract for mr hands, he officially became my favourite fixer

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such a fucking professional and polite chad

balmy imp
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Xdefiant is pretty nice, but the maps are garbage

willow river
# willow river

Holy SHIT the difficulty spike from the base game is so steep it might as well be a 90 degree angle

void smelt
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I made Astarion into a bird last night. That's it

limpid plinth
versed cradle
uneven urchin
limpid plinth
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I was just laughing at the conversation me and my friend were having cause it'd be so disrespectful if someone just jumped through the windshield 😭

hearty spire
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Saints row 3 my beloved

limpid plinth
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It's good coming back to it.

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I didn't really enjoy it on release.

hearty spire
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Silly game series

lilac prism
# lone stone

It finally has an effect to better see when you get a kill?!

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I might play the game now.

lilac prism
limpid plinth
lilac prism
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It was the brain damage from the impact

limpid plinth
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And traumatized kekw

lone stone
storm lynx
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kotor remake is cancelled...
trailer have been made private, tweets about it deleted...

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why can't we just have nice things in this world

limpid plinth
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I h8 it here

willow river
fallow sequoia
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God I hate Disney for ruining star wars

limpid plinth
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dis ^

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Star Wars is just so bland now.

tranquil mist
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But may I remind you all, that was being handled by a studio under Embracer, which is going through some shit rn

fallow sequoia
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Didn't they change developer?

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No wait mb discard what I said

tranquil mist
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I was gonna say

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Aspyr and Saber. Both under Embracer

fallow sequoia
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Embracer group is the umbrella company

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Yee

tranquil mist
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And knowing recent shit with the company going on (volition being shuttered, layoffs, etc.), I wouldn't be surprised if that contributed to the KOTOR remake being scrapped.

fallow sequoia
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I just want old republic era content 😭

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Give me SOMETHING MAN

tranquil mist
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Welp...

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Guess we're gonna have to wait even more for something to surface

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And we don't even know if it'll ever happen or not

fallow sequoia
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Or never get something at all since Disney just wants to rehash the same stories over and over with the same characters making cameos for the 50th time

tranquil mist
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............yea its gonna be awhile.

We may have to force ourselves to just do it with our own hands.

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As much as I hate to admit it

fallow sequoia
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Fan fiction ain't it my friend KEKW

tranquil mist
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Well... what other choice do we have?

fallow sequoia
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We move on by leaving the franchise in the dust

tranquil mist
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That was not a response I wa-

Oh why do I care OF COURSE THAT WOULD BE A RESPONSE

fallow sequoia
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It's me moving on basically

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Just like how I left battlefield 2 years ago

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After being a fan since bf 1942

tranquil mist
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...oh

fallow sequoia
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It's just how things work. If the direction has gone a way you don't like, you divert your attention elsewhere

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Slowly happening for me in regards to star wars

shrewd onyx
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I like some of it

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ashoka has been decent

fallow sequoia
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Yeah ahsoka and mandalorian are good but the rest is garbage imo

shrewd onyx
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andor was good

limpid plinth
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I liked Mando s1 but haven't seen the rest. Ahsoka didn't look interesting to me so I skipped it.

shrewd onyx
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tbf most of the stuff isn't horrible, just SW fans like to complain

fallow sequoia
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I’m complaining, doesn’t mean I like to

limpid plinth
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Idk the new trilogy was pretty awful.

fallow sequoia
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The sequel trilogy was literally a “we have episode 4,5 and 6 at home” type

limpid plinth
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The Force Awakens was refreshing and then they basically made the same trilogy with different characters.

fallow sequoia
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Exactly

limpid plinth
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And worse kekw

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Gnome coming in with a ted talk kekw jkjk ily Gnome

fallow sequoia
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The skywalker saga at home

storm lynx
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the biggest mistake Gorge Lucas made was selling SW to Disney, he could've ended the series here and there and open up rest of the story to interpretations or easily stick to his work and make more movies.
Alhough, now to think of it, Disney gave us some really amazing stuff to experience like Mandalorian, Ahsoka, many iconic games, SW Rebels and SW Clone wars...

limpid plinth
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Clone wars was 🤌🏽

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Idc I loved the CIS and bots

fallow sequoia
limpid plinth
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I can't think of any kekw

fallow sequoia
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The Jedi series is literally the only one of two since Disney took over. The other one is the battlefront remakes

limpid plinth
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Not any recent ones but I also haven't played the Jedi survivor series.

storm lynx
shrewd onyx
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bf2 got decent towards the end

fallow sequoia
shrewd onyx
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both the jedi games were good

limpid plinth
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BF 1&2 were both mistakes and I hate that OG BF3 was 100% playable. They just closed the studio at the end.

shrewd onyx
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with a third now in production

limpid plinth
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So it never released

fallow sequoia
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Since Disney took over, they gave the Star Wars game licence to EA after killing Lucas games. So far we only got battlefront 1 and 2 remake, Jedi fallen order and Jedi survivor

limpid plinth
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IT WAS GONNA HAVE PLANET TO SPACE BATTLES TOO I H8 it here

fallow sequoia
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Now EA doesn’t own the game licence anymore so Ubisoft are making an open world Star Wars game

limpid plinth
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I'm sure that would've been a mess bit it would've been so cool to see.

fallow sequoia
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I am not honestly. I could see the Ubisoft jank all over it

limpid plinth
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It's UBI don't be too excited.

shrewd onyx
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it's by the division team, who make decent enough games

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but yeah, cautious optimism

fallow sequoia
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I don’t trust that team anymore after what they did to the division 2

limpid plinth
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It's also by the same people who broke their game in midst of it's resurgence kekw

shrewd onyx
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tru, but we'll see

limpid plinth
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Like how do you fuck it up that bad

shrewd onyx
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season 2 of andor comes out next week

shrewd onyx
fallow sequoia
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But yeah @storm lynx all the games you listed are amazing ones. It’s a shame we won’t get the same feelings again now that Disney is managing

shrewd onyx
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I like the new BF1

limpid plinth
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Like I know it was good while that people couldn't play.

fallow sequoia
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I enjoyed battlefront 2 remake. Just a shame that they ended support in favor of battlefield 2042

shrewd onyx
#

yeah

#

tho I liked bf1's more variety with blasters

fallow sequoia
#

Its story was also refreshing

shrewd onyx
#

it was alright

#

kinda wish the empire special forces didn't have "are we the baddies" moment, when they've probably seen a lot worse

fallow sequoia
#

Yeah that was kinda cliche ngl

#

It was more the dynamic of the squad I liked

shrewd onyx
#

true

#

honestly I love when sw explores micro cultures and stuff within the universe

limpid plinth
#

They should explore less of rebels and more of the empire tbh. Like inside type sketch going on.

fallow sequoia
#

I would like them to explore THE MYTHOS OF THE FORCE PLEASE

#

WE HAVENT SEEN ANYTHING SINCE THE CLONE WARS CARTOON

shrewd onyx
#

like andor was probably one of my favourite pieces of media of all time

limpid plinth
#

Or explore some of the darker horror aspects of star wars

fallow sequoia
#

YEA PLEASE

limpid plinth
#

I would love that.

shrewd onyx
#

eh, people talk about it but I just feel it would become just a mindless gorefest with sw on top

fallow sequoia
#

I hate Disney for scrapping the deleted scene from clone wars where darth revan was a ghost that spoke to a character

limpid plinth
#

I just hate Disney. Lmao

fallow sequoia
#

The dark side of the force wouldn’t just be gore though

limpid plinth
#

^

shrewd onyx
#

I liked visions

fallow sequoia
#

There’s so much to explore but Disney be like “let’s have || Anakin fight obi wan again || “ in the Kenobi series

limpid plinth
#

There are stuff like the Blackwing virus that could be done gory but thats about it.

shrewd onyx
#

true, but I think Andor is the right amount of gritty

#

no blood no gore, just death quickly and almost randomly

limpid plinth
fallow sequoia
limpid plinth
fallow sequoia
#

George Lucas made a mistake

limpid plinth
#

Money is money.

abstract walrus
#

Dark Creations is such a odd name for a season

mild sequoia
#

the last ever season

fallow sequoia
#

Finally

#

New game pls, and it better not be crap

storm lynx
#

spoiler - it will be

abstract walrus
#

I have zero hopes for the next game

#

Unless they give up live service it's never going to be good.

storm lynx
#

you expect people who never understood Vaas' definition of insanity to give up something they've used sincle like BFV?

abstract walrus
#

Nope

storm lynx
#

they will just keep doing the same thing over and over again until in eventually works or kills the entire franchise

fallow sequoia
#

Bfv was live service? Thonk

storm lynx
#

apparently

fallow sequoia
#

I can’t see it tbh

abstract walrus
#

I'm just not buying it since DICE has cut off support for 2 of their games, both live services.

#

If Season 6 is the last one then they've killed off 3 live service games in a row just to make another premium live service game they'll cut support to in a year to ship another game.

storm lynx
#

I just want premium to be back and have guaranteed content instead of living in the hopes of getting literally anything new

#

this system worked

abstract walrus
#

That system didn't work either lol

#

Creates too many divisions in the playerbase

fallow sequoia
#

Yeah it was a clusterfuck in regards to servers

abstract walrus
#

I cannot play half of the maps released for BF4/1 since most servers just run the vanilla servers.

storm lynx
#

then idk, release a game instead of a foundation for a game

abstract walrus
#

At least with BFV/2042 I can play on every map released kekCry

shrewd onyx
#

I like BF games at their core, usually I'll get them for cheap

fallow sequoia
#

There’s no way you can play the close quarters maps in bf3 anymore

#

Also the premium priority queue was literally bullshit imo

shrewd onyx
#

I'm surprised they haven't tried a cold war game

fallow sequoia
#

That would be sick

storm lynx
#

I still cannot believe that EA missed a perfect opportunity during Fortnite's golden days to revive Battlefield Heroes
That could sell really well especially in between 2018-2021

#

I'm not saying "make a BF battle royale game", i'm saying that this style of gameplay would bring some more casual audience
a TPS shooter with special abilities for each class minus P2W bs known from the original

#

I am really interested to see what they are cooking this time with the new game

shrewd onyx
#

didn't they try a BR with BFV

storm lynx
#

yeah and it didnt work because they had zero idea what made br games fun

lean hazel
shrewd onyx
#

yeah, it was alright

limpid plinth
#

Literally rerelease Bf3/4 and I'd replay that instead of what they are cooking.

#

Hell I'd take the cops and robber BF over the new ones.

fallow sequoia
#

Hardline KEKW

#

I was laughing my ass off at the story for that game

storm lynx
#

It's funny that the Firestorm had the Flettner helicopter that was previoustly only used in BFH

limpid plinth
#

It's story was fun but so damn cheesy kekw

fallow sequoia
#

You’re a detective who plays battlefield irl but have the ability to arrest

limpid plinth
#

That was actually pretty cool tho the way you had to focus each person so they didn't pull a weapon on you.

fallow sequoia
#

But multiplayer was fun. Cruisin with the boys in a vehicle blasting the in game radio

WHOOP WHOOP ITS THE SOUND OF THA POLICE

storm lynx
#

Hardline is an interesting concept that doesn't really work with Battlefield setting

limpid plinth
fallow sequoia
#

Oh yeah

#

Also the funny reload animations that had a very low chance of triggering

limpid plinth
#

The deagle had the best one imo

storm lynx
#

the rpg had a funny one

fallow sequoia
#

Which one had the third arm again

storm lynx
#

the lewis easter egg was cool too

limpid plinth
#

It's so good lmao

storm lynx
#

They clearly had a lot of fun making this game

fallow sequoia
#

Visceral weren’t allowed to make dead space anymore so they started shitposting Kappa

limpid plinth
#

It'd be fun if they did this to the finals reload animations lmao

limpid plinth
#

Also BFV had a reference to Doom with it's double barrel reload. kekw

storm lynx
#

oh yeah, the finals needs some easter egg reloads

fallow sequoia
#

They also made the army of two remake but that never took off. Actually, it killed the ip

limpid plinth
storm lynx
#

never heard of it

fallow sequoia
#

The first game was a banger

#

40th day was alright

#

Basically a story game built from the ground up with cooperative gameplay at its core

storm lynx
#

oh, now i know why i never heard of those games, console exclusives

fallow sequoia
#

Was a gem of its time

limpid plinth
#

Definitely worth having friends.

#

The devil's cartel was bad

tranquil mist
fallow sequoia
#

LET'S GOOOOOOOOOOOO

#

FIRST DMC AND NOW THIS

frosty zinc
#

i was hoping ign/gamespot and others would review CS2...

lean hazel
#

decided to open a 0.25$ sticker capsule and got a 3$ sticker, rich life borpaBased

versed cradle
#

stonks??????

abstract walrus
#

CS2 made 40mil in the first hour off of gambling alone kekCry

versed cradle
#

im not surprised OMEGALUL

#

it scammed me from my unbox 😡

fallow sequoia
#

...

#

YOU GAMBA'D?

versed cradle
#

my 1 box for the week ye wtf

fallow sequoia
#

good

storm lynx
#

bro why would you open cases in cs

#

steam market is cheaper and more reliable

storm lynx
#

Cyberwarsaw 2077
Imagine if the sequel would be there lol

frosty zinc
#

ey dont forget Onimusha anime as well, for those who played the old onimusha games

#

also capcom

glacial skiff
#

Just wanted to ask? Do you guys enjoy games? And if yes, which one?

frosty zinc
lusty violet
undone tide
#

That's crazy they had the frame rate for the animation

storm lynx
#

they cooked

gusty cairn
#

dammit i knew it lol

fallow sequoia
#

played an inhouse cs2 5v5 with my fighting game local scene

#

so fun

storm lynx
storm lynx
#

there can be only one

solar haven
#

💀

storm lynx
#

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u15tEo0wsQI
Also, CDPR finally uploaded the credits/main theme track

Found out
Treasures are always lost
Pleasures and rage combined
I’m watchin’ you
Be careful with your moves

Tonight
I think the time is right
I think the blood has dried
It cries for more
So what are we waiting for?

Wires and chains
(I’m just tired of looking the other way)
Starting to fade
(I’m just tired of looking the other way)
Feels like ...

▶ Play video
undone tide
tranquil mist
#

Take this with a grain of salt:

versed cradle
undone tide
#

Anyone in here play CS2? 🤔

storm lynx
#

I'm playing casual from time to time

#

Two photos, three years apart, from first playthrough to fifth

lilac prism
#

anyone wanna play friends vs friends with me?

#

nvm my hame is broken..

lilac prism
frozen vapor
#

when tf is arc raiders doing another beta and same with finalsssss

lusty violet
plucky marten
fallow sequoia
#

Can't wait for Spider-Man 2. Here's a clip of Miles face planting

warm temple
balmy imp
#

(ignore that leaderboard, i played the unranked because of rank rework and got matched with high skilled people from cs:go)

ancient inlet
#

picture is in norwegian sorry, but just look at the credits lost 😭

ancient inlet
ancient inlet
#

is it sad that i usually get 500 - 2 K damage per game 😭 ??

ancient inlet
#

got 3rd most dmg on my team and i blocked 2630 incoming dmg 🙂 (sorry for spam, just wanted to show off my awesome non-existent skills)

lean hazel
#

@abstract walrus

#

quick 2 piece

#

oh nvm they pinged you 30 times already kek

ancient inlet
#

1106 xp 😄

balmy imp
#

@abstract walrus

lone stone
ancient inlet
#

@abstract walrus nothing important but i noticed ure in the WoT discord, so i wondered how much u play/played and which tier youre at/got

abstract walrus
#

i'm on a lot of servers, mostly cuz of emojis jwejhfiuwhfuihwuiehfiuhewf

ancient inlet
#

fair enough lmaoo

#

got all excited for nothing 😭

abstract walrus
#

sorry çç

lilac prism
#

Hath thou no honour?

lone stone
#

ranked

#

i had to do it

#

diffrent story if it wasnt a ranked match

shrewd onyx
#

@storm lynx I've finally got around to doing a cyberpunk playthrough

storm lynx
#

and? how's it going?

storm lynx
#

me waiting for @shrewd onyx response be like

shrewd onyx
storm lynx
#

cool, i'm glad you're enjoying it

storm lynx
#

playing premier in cs2 made me realize that i'm getting old

#

maybe ill just stick to casual

lean hazel
#

premier is ass

#

i literally only play casual, the goofiness in this mode is something else

#

just wish it gave more xp

lean hazel
gusty cairn
#

the time is nearly upon us friends

#

which brings me to another question

#

where the hell is ghost of tsushima

storm lynx
#

I rollbacked my save to choose different ending in PL
Hit twice as hard, although I feel way better with this one than what I originally chose
@gusty cairn get yourself some tissues

#

And also, I'm starting too see some hints towards PL being a little tease for the sequel...

gusty cairn
storm lynx
#

every ending for PL doesnt affect you being able to finish the game normally, but some endings in PL unlock a new main story ending

gusty cairn
#

ah i see. thanks

storm lynx
#

this is as much spoiler free as it can get

gusty cairn
#

yeah that's about what i expected XD

#

i got a minor spoiler today when someone showed off an ||iconic cyberdeck|| from the dlc

storm lynx
#

it honestly works exactly the same as Witcher 3 expansions - you can finish the story later and beat the expansions first if you want to

gusty cairn
#

what exactly that spoiler means for the overarching story, idk lol

storm lynx
#

i mean, it is not really a spoiler to say that the dlc contains new iconic stuff lol

#

if you'd go into detail - thats when the spoiler territory begins

#

but i know what you are talking about

gusty cairn
#

i mean i guess for players who haven't started it won't spoil much, but people who are halfwayish through can put 2 and 2 together

storm lynx
#

ok, the game just gave me one of the coolest cars in the game, ||when you drive it fast the holographic flames appear on the front of it||

rapid fjord
#

Hey not sure if anyone else knows but there is this pretty cool game that is supposed to launch this year.

#

Its called "The Finals".

#

Pretty excited for it. Its sorta like king of the hill with amazing environmental destruction.

stuck sluice
#

Sounds like it could be fun

lone stone
balmy imp
#

man i love scream fortress

versed cradle
#

@visual zodiac i fuckin won that twitter sweepstake LMAOOOO

#

AINT NO WAYYYYYYY

hearty spire
#

No way she go that fatass chocobo

versed cradle
#

HE VIBIN AFFFFF

granite vine
#

ROUND

versed cradle
#

the music KEKW

granite vine
#

That's just mean KEKW KEKW
Doing its best konatacry

versed cradle
#

hahahhaha

#

he a qt

granite vine
#

It may be time to retire this map playthrough
Phone cant handle this anymore KEKW

versed cradle
#

holy fuckin shit

#

i cry for your phone battery KEKW

#

isnt it xprogression?

limpid plinth
granite vine
#

I've been playing this save for like 2 months KEKW

#

I do one round a week at this point
It takes too long to load

uneven urchin
granite vine
uneven urchin
#

PS4 is holding back the visual upgrading of FFXIV

versed cradle
#

its due for 7.0

uneven urchin
#

ok ok

#

might come back then

versed cradle
#

or at least new gfx shaders etc

#

wont be full rework but at least something

uneven urchin
#

Shaders are good

#

I just want them to update the textures

versed cradle
limpid plinth
versed cradle
#

new msq on tues so kinda perfect time for me to come back a bit 😮

#

i miss all the grind/achieve hunting frii

uneven urchin
#

gonna have to polish my lalafell sideburns

versed cradle
uneven urchin
#

too bad we're not on the same data center

versed cradle
#

ure still EU tho?

versed cradle
#

😭

limpid plinth
#

kekw jkjk

#

unless...ACKSHULLY

versed cradle
#

nerds are great

hearty spire
#

the candy's alright

limpid plinth
#

nerd rope slaps

hearty spire
#

the nerd what

limpid plinth
hearty spire
#

wtf

limpid plinth
#

?

lean hazel
#

i only tried nerd packs

#

never again

storm lynx
abstract walrus
#

Watching Joseph Anderson playing starfield is really funny because he figures out how exactly you can bug out the game after a couple seconds

#

I had a hunch it was true but the way the game tracks if you're in a breathable environment or not is done through a flag when you open or close a airlock.

#

So if you're in a building, fast travel to your ship, and then exit it immedately, you won't need a spacesuit/pack/helmet.

stark burrow
#

man why no embed

native spindle
#

yoyoyo anyone want to play custom matches in apex? this is the code! c2p9336j

storm lynx
# stark burrow

embed perms in all channels when red, embed perms on the finals chat when green
basically level up

ocean osprey
#

@fossil talon camille and renekton top main

fossil talon
#

i would of hated you top

#

actually rage quit

ocean osprey
#

with both of these champs I want to get an early lead by nature and also morde is weaker pre-6

#

and every damn time I want to do an extended trade lvl2-3 which these champs actually excel at

fossil talon
#

poppy number 1

#

gg ez

ocean osprey
#

it's like, I do a good trade, THEN THE MORDE PASSIVE ACTIVATES

#

unholy uncounterable aoe damage

fossil talon
#

mords when you think they're gonna die they hit the outplayed button 100k shield

ocean osprey
ocean osprey
# fossil talon yeah

with renekton I can dodge morde E+Q then do a fury W then E out, and morde just Ws his healthbar up while I'm stacking fury

fossil talon
#

yeah

#

we love mord W

ocean osprey
fossil talon
#

yes

#

and poppys tackle

#

into a wall

hearty spire
#

Just build around it ez

ancient inlet
lilac prism
#

hey yall, I just got hunt showdown. Time to skip the tutoprial

undone tide
#

You'll be fine 😌

lilac prism
#

thank goodness

undone tide
#

They just added that tutorial a few months ago

storm lynx
#

I officially finished Cyberpunk 2077 with every gig, ncpd scanner sidequest, entire phantom liberty expansion and did he don't fear the reaper ending (which in my head is canon)

#

Now I can finally turn that 4-star review I placed in my GoG library when game was initially released into a 5 star
It was worth waiting these 3 years

barren island
#

It's already been 3 years???

#

😱

lean hazel
willow river
#

she can fucking drift, its easily the fastest way to move

ancient inlet
clever oracle
#

I LOVE SHATTERLINE

willow river
#

we gettin there fr fr

#

so much content for knuckles, all the new characters have such busted movement tech that its going by quick

lilac prism
lilac prism
lilac prism
#

hey anyone down to play some hunt showdown?

storm lynx
#

the jump point to pyro has been "physicalized" and CIG says they are getting ready to release replicaion layer tech into public 👀
Server Meshing and Pyro system are getting extremely cloes in star citizen

hearty spire
#

Cope

storm lynx
#

fym cope, these are amazing news, for me at least

hearty spire
#

Cope game

void smelt
uneven urchin
#

That’s rather forgiving of you

hearty spire
#

Real

ancient inlet
#

bruh, i joined on the last round 😭

lean hazel
#

average casual moment

#

i got the chicken slayer mvp kek

stuck sluice
#

lol

lean hazel
plucky marten
lean hazel
#

Season 5 was gud ngl

zealous widget
willow river
abstract walrus
#

Is anyone here a Frostpunk fan?

abstract walrus
#

Spooky scary skeletons

#

Crawford's looking a bit under the weather ngl

lean hazel
#

holy trailer is fire

storm lynx
plucky marten
#

very interesting thy are doing 2 trailers now

#

almost like they just revealed a new game

#

gameplay trailer coming the 5th

#

but the map is exactly what i thought it was gonna be, a tight underground lab/bunker with a giant simulation room where you can shoot out the ceiling sky tiles
which i think is such a cool concept

#

but it's probably infantry only with no vehicles at all, maybe a quad bike in the sim room at most. which probably means there isn't a new vehicle for the season which is fine

abstract walrus
#

I suspect they're going to use the gameplay trailer to show off the new smaller changes

#

They've completely redone the vehicle physics so it'll feel less floatly

plucky marten
#

yeah and all actual new content

abstract walrus
#

This is definitely a new gun

plucky marten
#

me excited

abstract walrus
shrewd onyx
#

will it be a hunter vs hunted game mode

abstract walrus
#

Mid Season event will probably be No-Pats vs Arkangel

#

I do wonder... what... exactly they're setting up

#

There's a lot going on in the lore rn and it's not explained even slightly kekCry

hearty spire
#

why is there a bunch of loot in this one spot

storm lynx
#

nobody actually knows

#

it's just there, for everyone on every save

#

and cdpr didn't aknowledge it as a bug for upcoming patch, but maybe they will silently fix it, it's a really really minor bug tbh so idk why should they list it in the first place

stuck sluice
#

bruh i just opened cs2 and the glitch effect on the loading screen made me thing my gpu just broke lol

gusty cairn
#

holy shit. cyberpunk now officially has my favorite soundtrack of all time

#

the theme of Phantom Liberty goes so hard

lusty violet
#

If anybody needs someone to play CS2 with I’m down, NA / 21+

storm lynx
lilac prism
craggy echo
mild sequoia
#

thank you CS2

lean hazel
#

Absolute beauty, officially my all time favourite visually stunning game

#

I couldn’t wait so i bought PL today kek

lean hazel
#

i have took 170 screenshots in my 3 hours of PL…..

lilac prism
#

bro

#

this guy camped the extract point, I DOMED HIM WITH A CARBINE

#

AND HE SURVIVED AND KILLED ME LESS THAN A SECOND AWAY

#

WHAT A SCUMBAG IM SO MAD

#

HE HAD POISON ROUNDS ON HIS RIFLE

lilac prism
#

I found his steam ID

#

imma harass him for twenty minutes or so

astral compass
#

I know Dust 514 was a very niche game that not a lot of people will remember, but to throw it out there: it's been announced it's spiritual successor is finally getting on the rails. Titled Vanguard, it's public test run will be open to EVE Online players who have Omega this December

stuck sluice
#

lol i like how dying alot is called fearless

storm lynx
gusty cairn
# lean hazel

holy shit those screenshots look amazing. what hardware you running?

lilac prism
placid garden
#

anyone have any recommendations for single player games

lapis latch
storm lynx
hearty spire
#

Omegasus username

storm lynx
#

true, ubersus

lean hazel
lean hazel
#

I was walking around in night city and i randomly heard edgerunner’s song wojak_cry

void smelt
#

Baldur's Gate 3 and Divinity: Original Sin 2 Ditto_Dance

crimson jasper
#

do not recommend baldurs gate, I have lost my partner to that game

void smelt
#

Then you can see them romancing Lae'zel first hand

stuck sluice
#

gta 6 releasing tommorow confirmed

void smelt
#

The letters are very suspicious kekw

stuck sluice
#

i would too

#

its totally something rockstar would do

lean hazel
#

also the moon pic they posted

#

had VI in it

#

and the moon will look the exact same in that picture on october 4

#

just give me a 2 second trailer and im fine

versed cradle
#

what moon pic

lean hazel
abstract walrus
#

The GTA conspiracy is great

lean hazel
#

we on some real shit here kek

#

but imagine if it actually happens..

#

this is the best time ever to announce gta vi ngl

stuck sluice
#

yes

shrewd onyx
#

I mean they had a playable version a while ago, due to that leak

lone stone
#

its just a game about building cities and im addictied to it

#

this is the main city cuz my other city that looks like new york is exactly like new york. insanse traffic jam

sturdy ridge
#

Crabs in Minecraft?

simple spruce
#

should i get with either Karlach or Astarion [again] in my next bg3 playthrough or should i do something different and go for Lae'zel this time?

what do yall think?

barren island
#

👼

simple spruce
#

sounds tempting 👀

abstract walrus
quartz perch
#

PLEASE GOD INVITE TO THE PLAYTEST

uneven urchin
#

can you move it up by a week?

storm lynx
#

I was playing casual today and my teammae got headshotted from awp, his ragdoll got pinned to the wall so hard it looked like a gmod animation

uneven urchin
sturdy ridge
lusty violet
storm lynx
#

clearly you haven't used that one stairs camp spot in tunnels on overpass

storm lynx
sturdy ridge
gusty cairn
gusty cairn
# storm lynx ozzzi's pc after enabling pathtracing:

i mean i managed pathtracing in gameplay with a 5800x and a 3070. 30 fps in general night city. absolutely crapped out in dog town tho. slideshow over there. but pathtracing in photomode just gives amazing screenshots

barren island
#

apparantly I am, I don't even remember playing this

quartz perch
barren island
#

There's no code or anything, it's just added to my account, sorry

#

but maybe you might get some as well, the email just went out

quartz perch
#

Oof

stuck sluice
uneven urchin
#

R8 flexing

storm lynx
#

L weapon

storm lynx
#

Squad is such a good game now after 6.0

#

most fun i've had in a long time

#

gone are the QE spammers, you actually have to show off some skill when shooting, game finally feels like a milsim rather than Battlefield Hardcore

raven halo
storm lynx
#

damn dude, this is some serious skill issue right there

sacred knot
raven halo
sacred knot
#

highly recommend playing campaign if you haven't it will tutorialize the movement mechanics pretty decently

storm lynx
#

like, the first two clips are literally just you having worse aim than the enemy, third one is just you being unlucky asf and walking into two titans and a pilot and last one is just you getting slapped

sacred knot
storm lynx
#

cherry on top was that ragequit after you getting absolutely demolished by those three guys in 3rd clip lol

#

i feel you

raven halo
#

I love this game but I SUCK at it, even after 100 hours

storm lynx
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thats titanfall for you

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nobody is good at this game, it's just tha some people suck at it less than the others

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but yeah, spookshel is kinda right - last thing you wanna do is to stay on the ground, you gota use that wallrunning to your advantage to have better possision

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rooftops, hard to reach places, high ground... these things are your best friend in terms of Pilot vs Pilot combat

raven halo
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But what about THE AIM

storm lynx
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practice

raven halo
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There's no point in any of that if I can't hit anything after years of gaming

storm lynx
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Then maybe these types of games aren't for you, thats why I avoid Titanfall even though I like it very much
Unless your aim sucks in every single fps game you've played... then uhhh.... idk

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The Finals seems like a good middle ground between precision shooters like titanfall and tactical shooters like CS

raven halo
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I also sucked at Finals but I won't be able to tell how good I am now, because it ain't fucking out and I'm dying waiting

storm lynx
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I play FPS games since I was a kid in elementary school and I still suck ass compared to other people
I have almost 3k hours in Fortnite and I still can't build well, hundereds of hours in Battlefield games and I still am a mediocre player at best, over 160h in Squad and still struggle with stuff like aim or positioning...
the list goes on

raven halo
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How do you live

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I can't handle it, I've broken so many controllers and mice because of that

storm lynx
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I just don't take pixels on my screen too seriously, thats all

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sure i get angry sometimes but worst i can do is punch my desk which is a hard wood so no harm done

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it is sometimes better to just not care or stop caring instead of straight up wasting your cash for a new keyboard just because you died 20 times in a row

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Instead of screaming into a mic or throwing shit around the room I mostly just analyze the situation and figure out what did I do wrong and then just dont repeat the same mistake again or practice long enough so the problem solves itself.

raven halo
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I make the same mistakes over and over in my entire life

storm lynx
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those mistakes being?

raven halo
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Existing

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But seriously, I mean in general

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While studying, while working on assignments, while talking, while doing anything, random mistakes that people usually do once and never again, I do over and over and over

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Might be my ADHD, might be something else, or I might just be the stupidest person on earth

storm lynx
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Well I ain't exactly a psychologist but best I can tell you is that if you find yourself doing the same mistake over and over again, just slow down, think about it for a while and try to figure out a solution on how to stop doing it and that best for you.
At least, that's what I tend to do when finding myself struggling with something - trying to figure out what is the core of the issue and what is the best way to get rid of it.

raven halo
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🙁

elfin copper
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Can we get a Titanfall 3...

simple spruce
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what weapons do y'all main in splatoon?

lament pilot
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The goomba

warm temple
sterile sandal
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OMFG. Well I’m glad your asking. As a splatoon 2 top 500 player. I was the back liner which meant I was playing nautilus 47 / 79

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I’m actually love splatoon so much but I haven’t played in a year or two since buying a pc

lone stone
lean hazel
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gta 6 any moment now kek

ancient inlet
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i made 133K DoggoBlush

shrewd onyx
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slaying

abstract walrus
hearty spire
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what in the fuck

void smelt
lean hazel
mild sequoia
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if anyone watches CS eSports then this is a big shocker

raven halo
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So idk

left nebula
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before anything else you need to be fast and active

raven halo
raven halo
left nebula
left nebula
# raven halo Which I'm not, so, pain

it took me a while, but you just gotta focus on parcor and figure out aiming as you do that. you're playin it as if you are a grunt atm, but you gotta think about the tools you have and how you can use them to disadvantage your opponents

raven halo
versed cradle
left nebula
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LYN YOU CAN SAVE YOURSELF

versed cradle
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already half way through, i must finish.

left nebula
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NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

lean hazel
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i was forced to download it a week ago too kek

versed cradle
lean hazel
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as long as it’s not dmz

versed cradle
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i also had to play dmz the other night KEKW

lean hazel
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the level of details even in the sunglasses of an npc are beyond insane, hail cyberpunk

balmy imp
frosty zinc
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hmm darktide on sale, the new update seems sweet