🥚┇off-topic

[soft crystal]

not to lose trophies

so if you're at 1240 cups with a certain brawler

win 4 lose 1

you'll still be there

+3 -12

woo let's compete

or just add me :)

anyone who plays here

#9YQ00CVY

omg why am I so hyped about brawl stars

true

[vivid oar]

Ohhh yes yes

[atomic minnow]

Whadup gamers

Just popping in to show that i am alivr and well idk

Bye

[fluid vessel]

hello

goodbye

[vivid oar]

Hi

Bye

[spiral phoenix]

H

B

[rustic drum]

Yo

Cya

[near stratus]

https://www.reddit.com/r/ArcRaiders/comments/zvaesh/i_realy_liked_the_aesthetics_for_the_games_logo/

someone made an arc raiders wallpaper

[austere crag]

Oh that's clean

[vivid oar]

Fr fr

[austere crag]

[rustic drum]

lmao

[soft crystal]

inflation

[rare viper]

I have a question about the ES (Embark Studio). How did the Nexon Company found the ES? I have play one of their game (Maplestory) before and ik few about the Nexon Company

not quite an important question, just out of curiosity about it

[fluid vessel]

Nexon is publisher not developers

their goal is to find studios like Embark

[rare viper]

ah, interesting

more creativity?

[fluid vessel]

and they probably fund the Maplestory developers

[fluid vessel]

depends on if the publisher wants creativity

or money

[rare viper]

ngl, Maplestory is actually still not that bad game, their update and remastered are getting better and better

games are now have different server, like mine, on SEA server (SG/MY)

[fluid vessel]

but yeah, Embark haven't released a game yet and are funded by Nexon

[rare viper]

I mean, 2 games are coming out in the future, The Finals and ARC

but yeah, hopefully both games can bring us surprise and amaze

[trim wind]

https://tenor.com/view/perfectly-balanced-thanos-infinity-war-gif-13078930

[austere crag]

rip pooper youll be remembered

[hollow fjord]

[sand jacinth]

NAH, booper will still be around as a little chaos gremlin!

It just means they don't have to be a CM anymore so you can get REAL silly, eh'?

[hollow fjord]

heheheheh

[sand jacinth]

And even if you're not a moderator/CM, you'll always hold a special place in my heart c:

[austere crag]

Wooper if you don't set your nickname on here to be booper I'm gonna be sad

[solemn dawn]

[hollow fjord]

https://tenor.com/view/presentation-consulting-consultant-beratung-hz-gif-25543931

[rustic drum]

ooo

[soft crystal]

hi booper

[solemn dawn]

[soft crystal]

can't you stay around with your current wooper account too?

you've got it all to flex with finalist rank

[hollow fjord]

unfortunately this one is connected to my work email!

[austere crag]

https://tenor.com/view/hooray-letsgo-lets-go-gif-18410791

[soft crystal]

gift the role to booper

[solemn dawn]

[soft crystal]

maybe I can see Kate talk one day

[austere crag]

If I could give out roles I'd give Booper every role we have on here, or at least finalist depends on how chaotic I'm feeling

[solemn dawn]

green

[soft crystal]

aint no way

[austere crag]

You forgot to remove rising star

[soft locust]

Wait what just happened?

[hollow fjord]

I gave me my own roles

so that you all don't think I'm a faker in here on my other account LOL

[soft locust]

Ohhhhhhhhh

OH YOU'RE BOOPER MB

[austere crag]

[hollow fjord]

LOL YEAH

[austere crag]

Yeah no booper is just a random force of chaos that has access to the back end

[soft locust]

I thought you just gave some random person finalist haha

[hollow fjord]

noooo, it is me

[soft locust]

Best hacker there is

Or maybe one of the mods has betrayed the server 👀

[austere crag]

Get your self selectable roles there Booper you're looking a bit sus

ikr

[solemn dawn]

[soft locust]

https://tenor.com/view/drowning-pokemon-smile-gif-5250468

[vivid oar]

Lol Ok update

Is this a decent gift

It's a lamp

[rustic drum]

yes

[vivid oar]

Ayy

[austere crag]

There was a friend that I used to talk to that was so excited for a Fallout NV MP mod and it seems like one exists now.

Wish I still was in contact with him :c

[trim wind]

Good morning!

[fluid vessel]

Evening 👋

[trim wind]

Well its actually afternoon here so might as well check off all the boxes

[pastel jolt]

well technically it's noon

good noon?

[trim wind]

Hmmm

Mmmmmmmm

[soft crystal]

good noon guys

[pastel jolt]

good

[trim wind]

My brain hurt regardless

This day feels so long already but I didn’t even wake up early or had anything urgent .. something in the air maybe..

[pastel jolt]

yooo same here

been happening a lot lately too

some days are just way too long while some days you don't even feel time pass

[trim wind]

I’ve been sitting in a coffee cafe for the past hour and I am almost falling asleep eventhough I got multiple large coffees

Def something weird going on

[pastel jolt]

I think it's moreso mental fatigue than a physical one?

[trim wind]

Yeah I guess

[fluid vessel]

Could be both, they do impact each other

[trim wind]

Been contemplating a few things so maybe its subconsciously saying “make up your mind”

Well I pulled one trigger that I know would have bothered me otherwise.

[fluid vessel]

Hope it helped

[trim wind]

We’ll see 😅

[pastel jolt]

true true

it's actually very fascinating how that works

[rustic drum]

‎

[fluid vessel]

‎

[trim wind]

One of the things I have been wanting to do is work on my personal journey, so I had to (weird phrasing perhaps) call in a break from people who made that harder.

People who make me care too much so to speak

[fluid vessel]

Very understandable

[trim wind]

And because I care so much about them its causing more harm than good because disbalance

[fluid vessel]

A good personal balance is essential

[pastel jolt]

I get you, you kind of lose your sense of individuality

[trim wind]

You exclude yourself from your own happiness

And add pressure to the other person in doing so

[austere crag]

I have applied for a new job

[vivid oar]

Best of luck!

[soft locust]

Gl!

[trim wind]

Good luck!

[hoary eagle]

Amigo these are wild 😂😂😂

[soft crystal]

@winged summit ah you have the meme royalty role for a damn good reason

[pastel jolt]

oh my god I love these so much

[radiant copper]

@winged summit idk why discord is telling me this information but excellent choice of game my dear friend

I just started playing recently and I cant get past wave 95 on medium

[viral warren]

It's a tower defense type game, no? Haven't played one of those in a long time.

[soft crystal]

yes it is

[soft locust]

Kids in my old school would always battle each other out on the school computers

[vivid oar]

@winged summit these are incredible

[radiant copper]

A10-MtnDew

[austere crag]

Does it have a lower Dew Point than a normal A-10?

[radiant copper]

Yes. Pic for reference

[austere crag]

Ayy

[soft locust]

Plz tell me what game this is

[radiant copper]

War Thunder.

We also have Weeb A10

[soft locust]

Rlly?

[radiant copper]

They are

It looks goofier with my Minecraft Map Mod.

[soft locust]

Lmao

[radiant copper]

American Gas.

Aw damn the teddy is blocking it

[austere crag]

War Thunder just looks funny at all times

[radiant copper]

20L of Cola.

[austere crag]

I

Do not want to see your tanks in Arma

[radiant copper]

Yo! Speaking of seeing tanks in places!

Someone mad a really cool Leopard2A6 skin right

and someone else 3d printed the model and printed vinyl and made the tank!

[austere crag]

We're about to see the weebmobile

Oh no he's default dancing on us

[austere crag]

I'm about to get a 3D printed Factorio tank soon

The factory must grow.

[radiant copper]

https://youtu.be/LKXl3zR7GwI

[radiant copper]

Dont forget trains. Trains OP.

[austere crag]

The fact that the game just lets you put rocket fuel in any vehicle is funny to me

[radiant copper]

https://youtu.be/2ZcqJb5qHrU?t=1223

just a casual two times escape velocity

no big deal

[austere crag]

Here's a buggy, put rocket fuel in it, a train? Sure why not. A tank? Yeah we've got room in-between the explosive uranium shells, the uranium rounds, and the flamethrower.

The flamethrower kinda seems a bit underpowered I think we need to replace it with napalm or liquid tiberium

[radiant copper]

Speaking of flame throwers

My dear friend

https://youtu.be/NAW56Uom6eQ

You can die if they shoot your butt with HEATFS though

big boom

Also last bit of spam; I gotta save up 1.5Million SL and unlock the newest Abrams added to the game BUT Im going to have an entire lineup of only abrams. There's 8 in the game.

[vivid oar]

Hahahahahhahahaha

^

The lasers tho lmao

[viral warren]

It's so fun reading through some of these Dota 2 reviews on steam 😂

[austere crag]

This isn't mine but as a Simpsons memes fan I feel obligated to share.

[untold grove]

Imma speak of it

[soft crystal]

Why do we want to forget the year we could try THE FINALS?

[pastel jolt]

the best is yet to come

[soft crystal]

wdym it's already 2023

[fluid vessel]

Forgot it already. Need a new beta to refresh my mind 🙏

[full mauve]

same

[soft crystal]

is it 2023 yet?

ahh can't wait for the announcement

[fluid vessel]

Any day now...

[soft crystal]

maybe one of us will experience a mysterious dream

leaking the date

[fluid vessel]

maybe if we lucid dream we can manually set the date ourselves

and it can happen sooner

[full mauve]

who knows how to lucid dream tho

[soft crystal]

idk what happened but after not really remembering my dreams for 1-2 years, started noticing that a lot of them remain in my head after waking up, and I have control of what I'm doing in them

so I kinda know how to haha

[fluid vessel]

I used to just do it without trying

now they're a blur

[soft crystal]

thats with me now I'm just doing it

[fluid vessel]

okay quick, dream of Embark HQ, sneak in, do your thing

[soft crystal]

but I can't choose what to dream 😭

[fluid vessel]

Oh, when I dreamt, I could just go to places I wanted to yknow

[soft crystal]

lol

maybe there's a misconception in our understandings of lucid dream

I believed its just where you control your body

and things dont just happen

[fluid vessel]

yeah but like in this dream, you can control things, right?

once you kinda have that state of being in control

that might just be my experience

[soft crystal]

nope in my dreams

the scene is set

i can just act freely in that world

[rustic drum]

lucid dreaming?

[soft crystal]

read from here

[rustic drum]

i never lucid dreamt how real does it feel

[soft locust]

Wait who lucid dreamt?

[fluid vessel]

me sometimes

[soft locust]

Lucky

[soft crystal]

me if we can call it so

[rare viper]

so I showed my friend about THE FINALS gameplay, he said the game makes him interested

but he mentioned that what he wanted most is the ARC Raiders

[soft crystal]

I promoted the game too and friends said it looks really cool

Hope they'll actually play

[rare viper]

both of us can't wait for THE FINALS and ARC Raiders

[soft crystal]

yupp

[hoary eagle]

same!

[spiral phoenix]

i just wanna hear the "HERE WE GOOOOOO" again ;-;

[full mauve]

time to watch the trailer again 😄

[soft crystal]

oh no

doing that would make me cry in a corner for hours

[hoary eagle]

game goes brrrrr

[solemn dawn]

this is the way

[quasi haven]

[trim wind]

Morning

Its too damn early.. but alas.. I am too lazy to find a dentist that isn’t 80 km away from my house haha

And next week this will be my default traveltime anyway

[limber jetty]

Fake, everybody knows that the primary monitor is always the one on the left

[trim wind]

mine is on the right..

[limber jetty]

You're both paid actors and fake individuals, i'm not buying it

[untold grove]

What happens if my monitors are top and bottom

[limber jetty]

That's actually my setup 😂

[untold grove]

[limber jetty]

More space on the desk

[untold grove]

I just have my laptop so I have a larger monitor that I plug into, it's honestly pretty nice

[limber jetty]

You gotta get used to it, but i prefer it too

[untold grove]

[trim wind]

What if I want my monitor setup to be a single 32:9 monitor?

[violet horizon]

i like that idea :3

[viral warren]

I never tried dual monitor but I don't really like the idea. One single big/wide monitor sounds better.

[vivid oar]

thats my setup too haha

my drawing tablet is 13.3inches so its super usable as a secondary monitor haha

[untold grove]

Ayo you draw?

Oh I just noticed your DA acc

[vivid oar]

Comfy asf ngl haha, but hard to move out

[vivid oar]

Yeahh

[untold grove]

You've got some neat artworks man

[vivid oar]

thanks Babby ❤️

still learning haha, but im working on some nice big projects i wanna show when im finished!

[untold grove]

I'd love to see em

[limber jetty]

It's cheaper, you can add/upgrade monitors singularly. You have more choice if you have specific requirements for your monitor(s) + you can spend a lot on your primary and be cheaper on the others. My main is 165hz, my secondary is 60hz but i only play on the first one so it's not a big deal. Also, for my specific case, a dual vertical setup lets you have a lot more free space on the desk

[vivid oar]

i bought my main monitor second hand and second monitor first hand

ok but its kinda crazy to think that
my main monitor = needs power chord + hdmi but has 75hz
second monitor = needs ONE type-c and thats it (but has 60hz)

the bottom one

?

ohh 😂

its a relatively average/small monitor

i wish i just bought a good gaming laptop tho haha

i had to carry my PC on my lap for like 30m whilst we were moving houses

OMG YOU NOTICED

the cutest thing in the pic

the cutest thing on your phone, Darnoux, is the thing you see when you close your phone

:0

thats awesome

best of both worlds eh

dayum

does it do any noise supression

owo

is it... wireless

ohhh

wow, thats like everything i need haha

sounds great

oh i see

yeah but when youre outside in the kitchen making good food

but still wanna headbang to headhunterz

[viral warren]

Good points. I guess my main concern is having even more cables to manage.

[trim wind]

Morning

Fun is over.. back to work :c

Its so dark rn QQ

[soft locust]

I thought that was a render lmao

[trim wind]

No its me in the bus

And its so dark I can’t even keep my hands steady enough to make a good picture hahaha

[vivid oar]

why do ur busses look super similar to ours

[soft locust]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/943018686212608000/1061901310854697040/Screenshot_2023-01-09_at_4.51.54_pm.png?width=1071&height=669

We made it

After 3 hours

[silk bolt]

because there's only a handful of companies who make public transport busses like that, so they end up looking superficially similar across large parts of the world

[vivid oar]

ohh right

that makes sense

[trim wind]

This bus is more Shuttlestyle, not a citybus

[trim wind]

Top one is our city bus and the bottom is the shuttle

[vivid oar]

Oh

What's the biggest difference between a shuttle and a city bus

Over here we have the bottom one everywhere almost

[trim wind]

Citybus is more accessible

More space, special seats for elderly, less abled and strollers etc

[vivid oar]

Ohhh

I think then we just have a hybrid everywhere

[trim wind]

Wdym?

[vivid oar]

That bus you sent looks so high quality lol

[trim wind]

Its fine haha

[vivid oar]

We have shuttles with priority seating, wheelchair access etc

[trim wind]

This is the citybus layout

So the yellow on the floor is for strollers/wheelchairs etc

[vivid oar]

Ahh

Locking them in their

There*

[trim wind]

So 2/3 of the bus is completely flat

Yeah

This is a normal bus but most have 2 sections or even 3

[vivid oar]

Damn you guys have long busses

[vivid oar]

I see what you mean by more seats now

What the fuck

[trim wind]

Here’s a picture of an older model haha

[vivid oar]

That's a train pov

[trim wind]

No that’s normal haha

[vivid oar]

XD that's so long

[trim wind]

In fact in another city they have trolley busses

[vivid oar]

Oh the ones with wires on top

[trim wind]

Yeah

[vivid oar]

Ahh right

Do you have it in major cities only or also for smaller cities

[trim wind]

The latter is a city of less than 200k residents

Afaik at least

Utrecht, the city I live in has around 400k nowadays

Dutch cities are generally under 1 million residents

[vivid oar]

I seee

[pastel jolt]

go to bed

[vivid oar]

[hoary eagle]

lol GET SOME SLEEP

[silk bolt]

only amsterdam has more iirc

which has trams and a subway system instead of trolley busses

and then also regular busses

interior of the new subway trains is really nice too, very spacious, very clean

[pastel jolt]

nap-worthy during a cozy sunday afternoon

[trim wind]

Pretty sure Rotterdam and The Hague are bigger

This is the Utrecht tram

[trim wind]

I loved today, literally wanted to quit my job from start to finish.. even toasted on wanting to leave hahaha (so scuffed)

Nah its okay.. it was a workshop day and I felt like it was a waste of my time and it made me feel disconnected with the school haha

Don’t get me wrong, I love teaching, but I don’t like the “treat someone as they want to be treated” attitude. It’s submissive and stagnating growth imho

Respect goes two ways, not one

[pastel jolt]

oh? what would be the best way in your opinion then?

[austere crag]

I'm imagining it might be the same over there for you but I hate how in the states they always assume the students are the innocent ones. No a grade school student will be a little bully don't pretend like they're completely good.

Also the whole "if you get into a fight and defend yourself you're punished as much as the aggressor" thanks for teaching a kid to just shut down and let themselves get hit.

[vivid oar]

idk why they try to 'balance' this punishment kinda system

either they're tryna be neutral in a lazy way or are too lazy to understand whats wrong and whats right

[austere crag]

I'm guessing it's for liability or something

I never got like physically bullied or anything but I got bullied so it does annoy me we're still using the system that further disempowers victims.

[vivid oar]

yeah it is really messed up
but actually a few smaller private schools have their own ways of doing things and 2 of those schools i went to actually have a nicer way to deal with it because we only had 200 people in the school so everyone knew each other

in one of those schools they didnt punish anyone but throughout the year(s) they would have these small semi-courses within courses which teach us whats right and wrong with examples that are sometimes too close to home

that probs helped cuz i dont remember in my 3y there a single case of major bullying

[trim wind]

I think you need to treat people how you would like to be treated. As a teacher you’re the role model.

[austere crag]

I'm annoyed by how little we pay teachers over here

[vivid oar]

isnt that a global issue

[pastel jolt]

yeah some jobs are horribly underpaid while some are waaaay too overpaid

[austere crag]

$32k a year when you're basically a babysitter for a bunch of kids, and have to teach them, buy your own supplies, you can't deduct anything you buy as a business expense past $400

[pastel jolt]

but such is the way of the world

[bleak turret]

That is but obviously worse in some places too.

[vivid oar]

to add onto that, you're also shaping the way the newer generation will think, behave, and have certain manerism

[trim wind]

I’m not saying that we have the same recipe for each pupil, I’m just saying, start with your own morals rather than submitting to a raging hormonal adolescent who might have 0 idea how to treat anyone

[austere crag]

The teachers that were teaching the kids my age failed considering I got bullied most of elementary lmao

I remembered them, they didn't remember me. Made it really funny when they started trying to befriend me in high school.

[trim wind]

that's insane

[soft crystal]

in Hungary there were riots last fall

teachers and students

but recently watched a video comparing the american situation with the rest of the world

and it's quite awful

browsed comments as well and everyone said that in the US if you're a teacher, it's assumed that that's because your life didn't pan out like you hoped it would.

[silk bolt]

The disrespect teaching as a profession gets in some societies is so dumb

[trim wind]

Haha I mean I even joke about it..

when people ask me why I'm teach I say.. well I don't have any other talents.. even though the starting salary here is 38k

[viral warren]

32k with or without tax? It's Europe so I'm assuming it is with tax included.

[austere crag]

Without tax

The on;y thing in the US that has tax included in it is gas prices, everything else doesn't

[viral warren]

Yeah I started working in November and a significant percentage goes to tax, it is a republican state as well. I prefer taxes to be included in prices.

Also I think there is no tax on some essential groceries like vegetables.

[soft crystal]

I just cant imagine always having to add a certain percentage of the total price of the goods you buy in your head to calculate the actual amount of money you need to pay

[austere crag]

What is that

[fluid vessel]

🔍 🕵️ EE of course

[trim wind]

I have a new favorite episode of any series ever

I just watched Atlanta S4 E7 and it is perfection

Literally embodies all my goals in life

[fluid vessel]

okay yes I like Puss in Boots movie

and this image

[trim wind]

I heard its flawless

[fluid vessel]

you have good hearing

[untold grove]

It's true his hearing is immaculate

[fluid vessel]

okay @untold grove this one is literally a spoiler so try not to click on it

[untold grove]

Aight

https://tenor.com/view/restraint-showing-restraint-calm-down-mad-angry-gif-13416205

[fluid vessel]

||Just found out something in this intro scene||

||He said he was there for every death...||

[untold grove]

https://tenor.com/view/click-gif-24475537

I'm kidding I didn't click it

I don't wanna spoil it for myself

[fluid vessel]

@winged summit can you uhh.. spot it

okay new pfp incoming

[soft crystal]

waiting

[untold grove]

Gato a lobo

[soft crystal]

lobo a gato

what is gato a lobo?

[fluid vessel]

cat to wolf

[soft crystal]

good to know

I'll pick up spanish 2 years later or so

[fluid vessel]

okay scary one while I find a better angle

[untold grove]

Spoopy

Speaking of spoopy, time to change mine as well

[soft crystal]

I have the urge to change the good ol' Russel to something else

[untold grove]

Change it to Russel Crow

[fluid vessel]

okay I messed around in photopea to get the right proportions

but there we go

MAJOR SPOILERS :: But I also love that you can see these on there the whole time

[untold grove]

Me when I get chicken strips

They so gooood

[fluid vessel]

yum

keepin it

again I love the character

wait it looks like

my name

is glowing a bit

[untold grove]

[fluid vessel]

it's perfect

[untold grove]

https://tenor.com/view/incredible-unbelievable-i-dont-believe-you-thats-amazing-amazing-gif-20244849

[fluid vessel]

keeping it forever

even if it makes me a little more intimidating

[untold grove]

Just make sure not to simp over him like some people

[fluid vessel]

oh

man I love him a lot

but I think I'll hold off on meeting him

[untold grove]

But that's the furry community for ya whenever there's a new animated animal character

[fluid vessel]

for the foreseeable future

[austere crag]

[untold grove]

That community has given me a lot of trauma lol

[fluid vessel]

I... yeah... there are times

[untold grove]

I'm glad I left when I did, but there are things that still cause triggers

[fluid vessel]

oooh nice pfp

[untold grove]

https://tenor.com/view/yes-very-sad-anyway-loki-sad-loki-gif-22079369

[untold grove]

Danke, it's my doggo

I recently shaved him lol, he used to be a big fluffy boi

[fluid vessel]

oh wow

awww

[untold grove]

It took like over 3 hours

He kept squirming so much

[viral warren]

Lol a mistake

[silk bolt]

Wtf that looks sick

[trim wind]

I guess it doesn’t work on mobile 😦

Glowing names apparently

Ohh

AAAH

I have been up for 2 hours already sorry

Yeah, couldn’t sleep no more unfortunately

Yesterday was an annoying day and it really made me wonder what I want

[trim wind]

I am going to rob the coffee corner blind in 5 minutes (when I arrive)

[silk bolt]

my girlfriend went through the same thing re: teaching recently

she's doing something else for the time being

[trim wind]

I love my vocational job but I basically already decided I want to quit my middle school job asap

Already told my manager here to fit me in for another day so I can do the work I love and I’ll figure out the financial penalty on my own. (The middle school job only paid out half of my salary because of the holidays and me being ill for two days.. its way too unstable and its stressing me out.

[pastel jolt]

fair tbh, teaching is a very tough job

[trim wind]

Yeah, but the difference between this job and the other is insane

[lone basalt]

@trim wind thought of you during my flight back to Sweden :3

[silk bolt]

Lekkerrrrr

Now I'm hungry.

[trim wind]

Before I saw the picture I was like.. I feel many people in Sweden have me in their mind.. (because of my attractive personality) but seeing this it makes a lot more sense haha

Might send more soon tm

Gotta make sure yall on a sugar rush to get the games done haha

We got some inventory here thankfully

Daelmans are pretty okay, they are more caramel rather than syrup but still nice

[pastel jolt]

super jelly right now

[trim wind]

Huge packages of daelmans?

I do want to reiterate that daelmans are caramel flavored, not the OG syrup filling

Oh yeah, the other cookies.. I only look at the waffles

[lone basalt]

Haha I really boiled you down to a waffle treat instead of remembering your personality We are all in favor of sugar rushes always 👀

[drowsy umbra]

Oooh stroopwafels ❤️

[soft crystal]

I love stroopwafels

My uncle used to live in Dutchland

He brought me a lot

[trim wind]

Dutchland

[lone basalt]

Germany?

[trim wind]

I can never tell if people mean Deutschland (Germany) or butchering our nationality (Dutch + land instead of Netherlands)

[austere crag]

Maybe both

[trim wind]

Because Dutch is a derivation of Duitsch, as it is a closely related to German Western Germanic language (Nieder Frankisch if I’m not wrong) though modern Dutch is a melting pot of German, English and French

Grammar of Dutch vs German is a mess haha

[trim wind]

Its okay, I am also very handsome, might as well be a stroopwafel.

Jk jk

[soft crystal]

BRUH NO WAY IT DIDNT SEEM RIGHT BUT I COULDNT THINK OF THE REAL NAME

😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭

[trim wind]

Haha but was he in Germany or the Netherlands?

[soft crystal]

Netherlands

[trim wind]

Ah awesome 🙂

[soft crystal]

Thats where stroopwafels are from isnt it

[trim wind]

Yes yes

[trim wind]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/462415901480976385/1062711175965589544/szl9n68zr9ba1.png

[spiral phoenix]

still a cutie lmaooooo

[pastel jolt]

dare I say, based?

[full mauve]

lmfaoooo

[lone basalt]

amazing haha

[fluid vessel]

I mean that's as nicely as they coulda said it haha

[trim wind]

Haha, I mean it’s also the question how the recipient takes it..

If its a cat, that could backfire

[full mauve]

the fact the senior manager said that tho

i shit still haven’t changed my name since yesterday

[trim wind]

I’m sure it didn’t matter.. in retrospect

I know you chuckled Blue..

[vivid oar]

Hahhahahahuaahha

[full mauve]

are you making a joke on my name 👀

[vivid oar]

Yes

Me fr

Last point debatable I'm neither cute nor have fighting capabilities

[lone basalt]

To be fair it says you will fight not that you can!

[vivid oar]

hahah yes

i guess it implies the fight or flight fight

[bleak turret]

the flight or flight

[vivid oar]

XD

flight* mb

sorry i didnt add the L... i might've taken it in the process

YESSS OMG

more of this is needed lol

[bleak turret]

No, I mean flight or flight

[vivid oar]

omg

bro im so dylexic lmfao

[bleak turret]

Did you sleep Swa

[vivid oar]

hahahah i did!! i sswear

[soft crystal]

aww

greatest collab

[vivid oar]

the red panda in that pic is like

so cute

i wanna squish it kind of cute

https://tenor.com/view/cute-raccoon-gif-21685482

visualization of me attempting to do math

hahhaha

just falling down

https://tenor.com/view/red-panda-gif-7515413

[mild condor]

nom nom nom

slrup slurp slurp

[trim wind]

I’m back at the ||blood||bank! No visuals this time #roadto100

[soft crystal]

so frosty

[rustic drum]

would of been better to plot

better end where most people die

[soft crystal]

watch stone ocean ending

if you havent

[rustic drum]

yk in the end he doesnt contribute to anything post part 5 , just becomes the owner of a gang

[rustic drum]

i have

ive read it

[soft crystal]

i mean there are other protagonists in the same case

[rustic drum]

like?

josuke the only one

[soft crystal]

josuke

and maybe jonathan if we don't count dio literally having his body

[soft crystal]

have you also read steel ball run and jojolion?

[rustic drum]

sbr yes

[soft crystal]

i wanna start that but I can't read manga on a damn screen

[rustic drum]

damn

||and adding to my point josuke is in the new universe to add more to the plot , giorno doesnt||

[soft crystal]

yes but that's not the same josuke

that's josuke 8 not josuke 4

or wait

[rustic drum]

i mean he is still the josuke

||he just went through other things in that universe to get to that point||

[soft crystal]

idk I may have interpretation issues, ||Josuke probably lived through the reset of made in heaven||

but

arent the characters who get to the next universe live the same life at the same time

i mean not same life

but similar

[rustic drum]

||technically giorno still somewhere in the new universe and he didnt change at all||

[soft crystal]

Jojolands protagonist?

👀

[rustic drum]

😳

maybeee

[soft crystal]

We'll see soon

[rustic drum]

||cus giornos stand makes him immune to any time acceleration and when he reset the universe giorno would of came with it just without changing||

[soft crystal]

good point

[rustic drum]

found this on reddit rn

||Even though Giorno isn’t affected by Made in Heaven, that doesn’t mean he’s still in the original timeline. Made in Heaven’s ability is to reset universes just by accelerating time. But Gold Experience Requiem protects ||||Giorno by making sure he doesn’t fall into the effect of time acceleration. But instead, he gets transported to the timeline which has been remade by Made in Heaven. However, if Pucci dies, then his stand Made in Heaven will ultimately create an alternate universe wherein he doesn’t exist and in that case, no matter what, Giorno will again be transported to this alternate universe unaffected even after Pucci’s death.||

||We still don’t know the true extent of Gold Experience Requiem’s powers, albeit being more godlike than that of Made in Heaven.||

[soft crystal]

eli5 I don't understand how ||Pucci's death|| intervenes

[rustic drum]

||because pucci died at the end of part 6||

[soft crystal]

yes

[rustic drum]

||so because pucci died instead of it being a new universe with pucci in it mih had to make one where pucci never existed||

[soft crystal]

uh shouldn't we spoiler these things

[rustic drum]

||if they died in the previous part they dont exist in the new universe||

[rustic drum]

true

[soft crystal]

so far everythings clear

but how does ||pucci's death|| affect ||giorno's transportation||?

um this looks weird

maybe just do some parts of the message which can be spoilers

[fluid vessel]

woah

that's a lot of spoilers

[soft crystal]

I mean we are discussing a topic which can spoil a lot to those watching it rn

the end of the last part currently available as an anime and manga that hasn't been animated

[rustic drum]

|| i think because somepeople may misinterpret it as giornos stand cant save him without the person existence or smthing idk much , as all we know is ger is insanely powerful prob more than dio oh , likely ||

[soft crystal]

save who without the existence of who and how is this relevant im sooo confused

ikr that ger is powerful

[rustic drum]

|| ger save giorno without pucci as he is the one who caused it , i my self dont know why it was in reddit but that is the most relevant thing i could of thought of||

[soft crystal]

still a bit unclear but whatever

and how was sbr?

[rustic drum]

it was good

u should read it

idk personally i hate ending jojo parts

as i always get close with a character and then boom they gone , either die or never seen again

[soft crystal]

if only I could get my hands on actual manga

[rustic drum]

just read it online

[soft crystal]

I will as thats my only option but I started once and couldn't focus

I don't even like ebooks

[rustic drum]

personally i hate the feel of paper in books , it can feel so weird

[soft crystal]

and when the actual content is covering 1/5th of your screen its even worse

and if i zoom in to fill the screen I can read like 1 bubble without scrolling

[late prawn]

Almost time for Vox Machina S2! Anyone else excited?

[trim wind]

Yes!!!

[bleak turret]

I'm trying to catch up on C3 still I'm 2 EPs behind, luckily Vox Machina episodes are nice and short

[late prawn]

I'm only halfway through C3

[rare viper]

any update of The Finals and ARC Raiders? 👀

[austere crag]

We need updates

[placid turtle]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/505818199749558290/992203668151619624/caption.gif

[solemn dawn]

YEAH

[trim wind]

so the VC is basically a bunch of muted people with very specific music taste

[untold grove]

[violet horizon]

this is like those dj parties that everyone is wearing headphones

[untold grove]

You can't vibe unless you like my music taste

Vaporwave?

[violet horizon]

naa dont say that 🫣

lets listen to cybercountry

there are really weird genres out there. its dangerous saying that 😥 the world is a weird place 🥹

there are song that make you uncomfortable, singing about parts of the body

[rotund gyro]

genre is not defined by the lyrics being sung

[violet horizon]

oh! lets listen to future garage

[rotund gyro]

yes

[violet horizon]

no, not true at all xd

[full mauve]

it’s a pretty good taste tbh

[rotund gyro]

it's how the music is conveyed

[rotund gyro]

yes it is true

[trim wind]

Its very specific

[rotund gyro]

rap and pop can have the same lyrics, but how they're conveyed is what defines the genre

[violet horizon]

there are sub genres and fusions

that are more specific

[rotund gyro]

you still don't get it, so I'm gonna stop here

[untold grove]

Indie pop and rock and folk have been my go to in recent years

Tho synthwave, vaporwave, and future funk will always have a special place in my heart

[violet horizon]

NO! 😦

[trim wind]

lofi deep house etc for " vibin' "

[rotund gyro]

"uptempo style, folksong features"

and then it describes 3 types of lyrics

[trim wind]

but I have a very broad taste that goes all the way from screamo to pop

[rotund gyro]

what there's in common with all 3 styles of the lyrics is the uptempo style mixed with folksong features

[untold grove]

Apparently my top genre this last year tho was chillhop lol, even though I listened to other stuff more I feel

[full mauve]

lofi is my go to when i work

[untold grove]

It would make sense tho since I mod for Chillhop Music

[trim wind]

Chillhop is great

[untold grove]

We got some chill folks in our server, tho some of em are just an enigma and I will never understand them

[late prawn]

Oh I haven't listened to Enigma in a while. Good shout

[untold grove]

Lol

[willow tundra]

yo chillhop does bop

[untold grove]

https://tenor.com/view/lofi-gif-20614222

[vivid oar]

omg

yes

[hoary eagle]

I'll get that mornin' vibe

[trim wind]

This… this is my jam

[hoary eagle]

join up in the #1063478645689159690 channel and add your tunes too!

[soft locust]

Idk why but this just made me think, Would you rather have daytime always be looking like sunset? Or always looking like sunrise?

I'd say sunrise

[hoary eagle]

hmmmm

Haven't seen either in what feels like months (cuz the north) but I think I'm more for that golden hour sunset.

[trim wind]

This is sunrise for me

[soft locust]

Oh that's nice

Sunrise for me cause i love the feeling of fresh air and it's super cloudy over here so we get like a red cloud line and it looks amazing

[trim wind]

Sunrise gives me a lot more joy tbh

Yeah the dew still around

Fresh air and nobody around

Peace

Thats the sunrise ^^

[hoary eagle]

Alright I'm sold.

[trim wind]

It has been raining for the past few days though

[soft locust]

Around like 5:30 is my sweet spot

[trim wind]

I feel pressure to go running again now

[soft crystal]

best feeling

[untold grove]

Something about the sunrise is just so calming on a summer morning, but I think sunsets on the beach are also wonderful. That's a tough one

Maybe sunset then

[trim wind]

J2VKM-P7FJK-CY4X9-3T9VV-2C97Z < Xbox Game Pass Ultimate 2 months for free (take it please, I can't use it because I used one before)

[silk bolt]

Think someone copped it already, doesn't work for me now

Nice of you to share though!

[fluid vessel]

for @vivid oar

[vivid oar]

Thanks <33

[fluid vessel]

you uhh better use it as reference only ☝️ 🕵️

[vivid oar]

I'm tracing over it

My art now

[fluid vessel]

😭

[vivid oar]

I mean, if the AI used my art to extend it, is it now not my art anymore

[fluid vessel]

it does pull off the tree perspective pretty well

[vivid oar]

Yeah ikr;

So impressive

[fluid vessel]

it's a chimpanzee which has looked at your art for 2 years and decided to paint to the left and right of it

you wouldn't really credit the chimpanzee, but not yourself either

[vivid oar]

So then who owns it lol

[austere crag]

Nobody

[rustic drum]

what if u buy owner ship of it for free

u own it then

[vivid oar]

Probs depends on DALLE2

Whatever fine text they have in their Terms of Use

Problem with early adoption technologies is that rules aren't set in stone so technically the AI owns that artwork but I can still fully use it myself without getting into any trouble

[fluid vessel]

yep nobody, nobody can do any copyright law on it or anything

it ain't the intellectual property of anyone either

[vivid oar]

So then could it be put under the public domain?

And if so, ethically, will that mean that all my efforts will go to waste making an artwork just for it to be owned by nobody because I decided to extend it by 30% using my own artstyle

Like are we considering AI gens as a tool or an authority

[fluid vessel]

nope

it's not that the original work will have no owner

but the new one will have no owner

[vivid oar]

Right, but then both are so similar, wouldn't that also cause troubles

[fluid vessel]

yes

you can still have it taken down

for imitation

[vivid oar]

But what if I made that extended image

Or wait

What if I used that reference of the extended image generated by the AI to now help myself make an extended image

[fluid vessel]

no problem with that

[vivid oar]

Now that's the weird fucky situation

Yeah lol

[fluid vessel]

again, the new one has no owner

no one can sue you

[vivid oar]

No I think then I have ownership right

Cuz I simply used the generated artwork as reference

Still drawing it as my own

[fluid vessel]

new as in extended

repainted is yours again

[vivid oar]

Yeah

[fluid vessel]

if you painted over someone else's extended, there would still be issues yknow

since the unextended part is still part of the image

[vivid oar]

I think then it would be better to call extensions a tool rather than ownership thingy

[fluid vessel]

(and does have rights)

correct yeah

[vivid oar]

But thats similar to me using a reference image

Which there's nothing wrong with

[fluid vessel]

painting over a piece of art, line by line, isn't allowed

[vivid oar]

Not line by line

[fluid vessel]

reference images are usually copyright free

[vivid oar]

Using it as a reference image

You can use reference images as any images lol

[fluid vessel]

it's usually decided by the legal people at that point

if your art replicates key features which makes their art theirs

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Art_forgery

humans have been doing it for a while

[vivid oar]

Copyrighted images can be used as reference images as long as you don't copy paste it. If you look at concept arts made by image moshing

Sometimes they literally cut and paste snow textures from the images

Even tho they're copyrighted

[fluid vessel]

If you're just doing it loosely (not the whole thing) it's no problem really

[vivid oar]

Yeah but who decides that lol

[fluid vessel]

but any pixel of extended output is fair game to copy

even cut and paste

[vivid oar]

Like if I copied something and put it perfectly in my very detailed art, who will notice

You see where I'm tryna get to

[fluid vessel]

don't you go to court and stuff

[vivid oar]

Not really

[fluid vessel]

it only applies if you get money out of it

[vivid oar]

Yep

[fluid vessel]

well that's just the wrongdoing but discreet 😭

you don't need AI art for that hahaha

[vivid oar]

But still, it's super common to have similarities in artworks to the point where finding who I copied it almost impossible

[vivid oar]

It's how it works sometimes 😉

[fluid vessel]

yeah, still unrelated to AI

anyone can do that

[vivid oar]

True

I just brought it up because I'm trying to clarify the efforts of humans Vs efforts done by AI

An AI is useless without the previous efforts of humans

[fluid vessel]

AI is imitation of art

art is imitation of real world

[vivid oar]

I wouldn't say real world lol

What about fiction

[fluid vessel]

imitation of real world

[vivid oar]

Well we made those up

[fluid vessel]

based on experience

[vivid oar]

Non fiction* my bad

[fluid vessel]

non fiction is real

fiction is made up

[vivid oar]

Fuck

Ur fucking with my brain lol

Yeah fiction

[fluid vessel]

sorry 😭

[vivid oar]

That's not representation of real world

[fluid vessel]

no

but it imitates ideas

[vivid oar]

Yeah

But thats psychological

[fluid vessel]

I mean basically every fiction main character is human-shaped

[vivid oar]

Not rlly

[fluid vessel]

and every sci-fi house is human-scale

[vivid oar]

I've seen many that are not

[vivid oar]

And I think thats done by choice

[fluid vessel]

okay okay but they are based on animals and limbs we have seen

[vivid oar]

It's easier for the general media to think of human shaped creatures

And for us too ofc

[fluid vessel]

what I'm saying is AI use Human stuff to come up with new stuff

[vivid oar]

Yeah ofc

[fluid vessel]

Humans use World stuff to come up with new stuff

[vivid oar]

Ye

[fluid vessel]

once AI can interpret the world around it (without looking at the internet or other human's writing and art)

then we're screwed

[vivid oar]

Still not 'real' world tho cuz real means it exists and it you consider some fiction things they don't exist

Physically

[vivid oar]

Yeahghy

Don't scare me

[fluid vessel]

'Humans use World stuff to come up with new stuff'

[fluid vessel]

the new stuff is fiction

[vivid oar]

Well ai looking at internet Vs real world is not that different

[fluid vessel]

is what I mean

[vivid oar]

Wait wdym by AI interpreting the world around it without looking at images on the internet

Like a robot walking around with eyes?

[fluid vessel]

literally yes

with light scanners

and audio detectors

[vivid oar]

How's that different to seeing images on the internet, it's the same

The only difference is that the algorithm behind it is now for a different purpsie

[fluid vessel]

cause for now we use the argument that AI art is not creative because it copies creative people

when the AI has our senses (and more), and makes art out of what it sees, then that falls apart

[vivid oar]

Ahh

Gotcha!

That is weird to think about

Yeah fuck

[fluid vessel]

yeah sorry for inserting that idea into your brain haha

[vivid oar]

I doubt for the feelings aspects

Haha it's all good, i love this topic

Like does that mean the robots can love

And if so then....

<:) I'll finally not be lonely

[vivid oar]

honestly im less worried about drawings and more worried about the art industry as a whole

[fluid vessel]

love is probably beneath them

it's not.. efficient.

[vivid oar]

wdym by efficient

[fluid vessel]

AI are trained based on a reward system

we give it a goal, and they try to get to it as fast/efficiently as possible

if something slows it down it will stop doing it immediately

it's very quick that way

[bleak turret]

🤖

[austere crag]

[vivid oar]

then what if the people behind the AI write it so it doesnt have to take the fastest way possible

and also another question: how do you quantify/feed 'feelings*' into an AI

[fluid vessel]

If you give the AI a goal of, for example, self-preservation, without hard-coded rules against killing humans, it would, first, make itself immune to the kill-switch, and then start killing the researchers almost immediately, as we are the only things that would shut it down.

fun to think about 💀

[vivid oar]

yeah lol

i mean aren't we also hard coded to not kill

semi

whats stopping u from committing a crime right now

[fluid vessel]

peer pressure

and self-preservation

but assuming you wouldn't get caught/punished, peer pressure

[vivid oar]

right

but theres also other smaller factors right

its not only about your code

[fluid vessel]

emotions yeah

emotions aren't perfect but they work well enough for us

[vivid oar]

yeah

its why i dont think AI will be able to use emotions anywhere near close to humans do which will limit them from producing (for example) meaningful artwork

[fluid vessel]

if you wanted to create a more perfect being which didn't require emotions/brain happy juice, you would first have to make it smart enough to understand the world around it and understand that helping others is in its best interest anyway

[vivid oar]

yeah

[fluid vessel]

nowadays most sociopaths are just stupid, and just selfish

[vivid oar]

but that human wouldnt be perfect nontheless

how can you know the world around you at all times

without having that information fed to u and u having to process taht a million times every minute

[fluid vessel]

well exactly

more-perfect is key

[fluid vessel]

I mean the brain is kinda more efficient than a computer

[vivid oar]

not at everything tho

[fluid vessel]

"The human brain has significantly more storage than an average computer. And a computer can process information exponentially faster than a human brain."

[vivid oar]

a computer solely operates on combinations of a few logic gates and calculations

[fluid vessel]

hmm

[vivid oar]

yeah sounds about right

well, a computer is faster than us only because we programmed it that way

which is kinda cool to think about

its only faster because we're smart enough to make it that way thus we're superior in every way and we must rule the world

the rise of human superiority activism

[fluid vessel]

that's if you believe in moral obligation

an AI does not

it also doesn't give a damn about superiority

[vivid oar]

yeah true

unless we hard code that into it

'yo this is wrong'

but that would create bias

and then war

[fluid vessel]

as soon as it has a goal it will go straight for it, but currently it doesn't make up it's own goals

it's too smart for that

[bleak turret]

🤖 Hello, this is Robeau, your CM AI. I would like to unmorally remember all of you to hydrate. 🤖

[vivid oar]

Beau hard coding water into us

[untold grove]

An AI imo will never truly be sentient because all they understand is imitation. It's the difference between knowing a language and understanding a language

One knows how to translate and speak, while the other sees the beauty and appreciates it

[fluid vessel]

that's a very human thing to say

[vivid oar]

right, and it cant imitate emotions because we cant perfectly imitate other emotions either

and i think those small things is what will separate us from AI

tho,i dont think the industry really cares if AI is similar to humans (in a larger extend)

actually i take that back

[fluid vessel]

I mean to be fair, we are flawed enough to care about feelings and staying alive and stuff

to make an AI think like that would be to dumb it down

currently if you asked an AI to find a purpose, there really isn't much it can do except keep itself alive, which we'd also have to feed into it as a Goal

Humans are the same, just with a lot more of those

[untold grove]

https://tenor.com/view/nick-cage-this-point-gif-11223471

[vivid oar]

i love this lmao

[vivid oar]

but feelings do help us in that way

since everyone is flawed

[fluid vessel]

yep, system works as it should

[vivid oar]

weirdly enough haha

and people with stronger sense of human emotions can manipulate emotions

[fluid vessel]

we are not smart enough to be helpful to each other without feelings

so we need them

[vivid oar]

yeah

i hate that lol

the way we express, the way we type, talk, emote, etc all matters when helping others

[fluid vessel]

there will always be people that hoard the toilet paper, then other people complain, but then they hoard it too

[vivid oar]

LMFAO

[fluid vessel]

we are not the type of species to immediately share it amongst ourselves

yet

[vivid oar]

at the end we still have our survival instincts

from our ooga booga cavemen days

[untold grove]

An AI won't be able to look at a piece of art and receive an emotion, due to the complexities of art and how it relates to pathos

An AI probably won't cry at the movies like I did last night

[vivid oar]

fax

but then again it can probably interpret the basics of art emotions

which it is already good at doing

u tell midjourney to make an uncanny horrifyiing artwork and it makes one which is definitely uncanny

[fluid vessel]

I mean if my AI felt emotions I'd get a new one

...
Me: hey can you make an image of Mickey Mouse eating Donald Duck?
AI: what the actual f**k

[untold grove]

But it only really knows that because of the human experience, because a team of individuals taught it the general fear

[vivid oar]

HAHAHA

[untold grove]

Individuals all have different fears and things that irk them, whereas an AI would probably just find the average or the median rather than the outliers

[fluid vessel]

I mean it would just.. not have one

[vivid oar]

i mean that is also possible, fish
a lot of things are possible with Ai its just that we arent doing that because of time vs demand vs money

[untold grove]

I also don't know what this convo is really about lol, I hopped in very late

[vivid oar]

yeah, true
so it only knows what we've taught them

ai having the fear of spiders

[untold grove]

[vivid oar]

pulls out flamethrower "call the ambulance, but not for me"

[vivid oar]

at the point its just a fun discussion on AI

[fluid vessel]

I mean anything an AI fears would be fake

since it can't actually be harmed by anything

killswitchphobia hahaha

[untold grove]

[untold grove]

Ah oki

[vivid oar]

i dont think anyones ever said that before lol

[fluid vessel]

always nice to be the first at something

💪

[vivid oar]

yeah haha

u should write an urban dictionary definition for that

be the first

[fluid vessel]

wait no it exists in the Library of Babel, damn it

but no human has ever written it

[vivid oar]

i mean every word exists there

[fluid vessel]

yeah exactly

[vivid oar]

i actually dont know how that library even exists

thats insane

[vivid oar]

UNTIL NOW

[fluid vessel]

it's a concept

all those phrases aren't actually stored on some database somewhere

it just uses an algorithm which can do every single phrase ever uttered, non-repeating

so somewhere down the random string of letters will be your word

[fluid vessel]

AND NOW I CAN CLAIM IT

[vivid oar]

yeah but how do u actually store that much information

[fluid vessel]

you do not