Twice now ive completed a run and just not had enough to buy the suit. It should be an option that once you reach chaos that you can simply buy the suit from the menu.
#200% costumes and omni stones
candid plover
dusty heron
how long were your runs 😭
dusty heron
did you not go past stage 5?
candid plover
nop. Was good enough to win on that run. But couldnt get the skin because omnint
dusty heron
cause generally the whole point of the omnisuits is meant to be end game cosmetics ur meant to put a little grind into them to get them
candid plover
cause generally the whole point of the omnisuits is meant to be end game cosmeti...
sure, but like. Having the purchase be in the menu vs be in the run itself doesnt change that
(also had a third time where I had enough and grinded to get enough and forgot to buy it like an idiot)
dusty heron
sure, but like. Having the purchase be in the menu vs be in the run itself doesn...
it kinda does cause then it’s just extremely easy to get 😭
dusty heron
(also had a third time where I had enough and grinded to get enough and forgot t...
(LOL THATS SO UNFORTUNATE ☹️)
candid plover
it kinda does cause then it’s just extremely easy to get 😭
Win on 200% with the character, 50 omnistones in the menu
Im not saying take away the need for a win
just like
take the purchase from the shop and move it to the menu lmao
dusty heron
Win on 200% with the character, 50 omnistones in the menu
yeah that’s the thing it’s extremely easy to win on 200% currently rn
the amount of times it’s been nerfed
candid plover
Yeah and its incredibly easy to get 50 omnistones before the run
dusty heron
it is, have a long run on normal or do an arena run
or just get the immune artifact
farm an immortal and you’ve basically got loads
there’s also just a couple of chaos battles you can do which give you 10-12 each? iirc i forgot how much exactly
candid plover
You are proving my point more. There is no reason you cant just farm immortals and blitz through 200% with every character. It changes ABSOLUTELY NOTHING if the purchase unlocks after you win in the menu lmao
Like get to the same shop area
Just... dont buy it there
dusty heron
if it changes nothing what the problem with keeping it there?
candid plover
It changes nothing but for players doing the run that dont have 50 omni stones which would be easy to grind dont waste their time going for something the menu didnt say required said 50 omni stones
Simply put, it wouldnt change any of the challenge of getting them. It wouldnt even change the unlock. You just dont waste time
simply a good change
candid plover
(LOL THATS SO UNFORTUNATE ☹️)
Also forgetting to buy them can literally waste hours. A mistake you only make once but ive seen a couple people do now so another reason to fix it.
dusty heron
gang there’s no way you take hours to get to stage 5
candid plover
On an extra long run it can
dusty heron
and also, if people want to save time, a better way to fix it is to add a tooltip in the character select screen that says it cost 50 omnistones
rather than just moving the buying thing to the menu
dusty heron
On an extra long run it can
welcome to the grind ig there’s an achievement that says forge everything after an hour and die on the 42nd minute, you gotta do the entire thing again if you die before that
it’s just a cosmetic anyway, doesn’t even change the character abilities or anything
literally just a black and gold reskin of the character
candid plover
Or, if you REALLY want the unlock to be where it is have a platform with statues every gatekeeper and once you reach the shop on 200% you can buy their skin from said statue permanently.
dusty heron
Or, if you REALLY want the unlock to be where it is have a platform with statues...
so unlock a skin of the character without playing the character?
candid plover
so unlock a skin of the character without playing the character?
Win with character
Statue shows suit
Cant buy/Forget
Do new run with different character
Statue still shows suit
Buy
dusty heron
honestly if the skin actually changed something about their abilities or made them slightly stronger i’d get your perspective and agree
candid plover
It is JUST NOT WANTING TO WASTE TIME
dusty heron
but i really don’t see the point of making a reskin of a character that changes nothing at all easier to get
dusty heron
It is JUST NOT WANTING TO WASTE TIME
then don’t get the skin 😭?
it’s meant to be there for the players who want to grind as a reward for doing 200% multiple times
that’s the reason why it doesn’t change anything about the character
candid plover
I now realize why this game is called gatekeeper jesus
carmine coral
Its not wasting time... You're literally getting a skin out of it.
candid plover
Its not wasting time... You're literally getting a skin out of it.
....
The point is that not having enough omni stones ESPECIALLY the first time when it doesnt say you need them and you wanna win to unlock it, if you do a run in order to unlock the skin, you are wasting time.
grand charm
Me personally I disagree with the point you're trying to make, respectfully. Like Yuyi said, the skins are meant to be something you grind for and then prove skill to be able to get them, which 200% isn't even very hard anyway, but it does require to at least know what you're doing. You gotta earn them, that's the whole point, even if that means doing the run all over again because you can't buy it the first time; it's part of the grind.
If they were just unlocked for purchase in the character menu once you reach them, there'd be no fun in continuing the game cause you could just do that for every character, then grind out the omni stones in arena and boom, you finished the game, hardest challenge done and ruined your overall experience by doing everything that can be done quickly. The way they are increases the game's longevity progression a little bit, you're not just doing runs for nothing.
Although to side with you a little bit, there should be a tooltip on the menu that tells you they cost omni stones, even though its kind of obvious hence the name, the tooltip definitely should exist
dusty heron
Me personally I disagree with the point you're trying to make, respectfully. Lik...
yeah the tooltip is what i suggested as well rather than including the entire thing in the menu, i would’ve agreed for the menu thing if the skins actually did something like different abilities or something like that, but it’s quite literally just a reskin
grand charm
yeah the tooltip is what i suggested as well rather than including the entire th...
yeah, there's no need to make it easier to get. It's like a trophy, if you a winner you get it, if not, come back when you've trained more and have the resources you need :)
carmine coral
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The point is that not having enough omni stones ESPECIALLY the first time w...
This point is understandable though, it should say that it's required in the achievement.
dusty heron
This point is understandable though, it should say that it's required in the ach...
even if not in the achievement, it should at least be shown in the menu, maybe in the character select
carmine coral
Ye
candid plover
yeah, there's no need to make it easier to get. It's like a trophy, if you a win...
I still do not understand the concept of this making it "easier to get" when, in fact, it taking you winning the run, and spending 50 omni stones doesnt change if you spend them in the menu or in the game. It simply means that there is no longer a chance that players waste their time either by accident of lack of given information.
Like, the steps of
win 200%
have omni stones
does not change. Maybe the source of the omni stones, but at some point you could grind them before in an easier difficulty once you do know it takes 50 just the same as you could gind them after you know it takes 50 before doing a 200% run. Especially if the 50 omni req is added to the menu, you do a 100% run to get 50 and go until you beat 200% which the difficulty curve, time spent, and everything would remain functionally identical if it was do a 200% run then grind omni on 100%. Just that the later is a quality of life change that means there is not a chance that people are stupid and miss the statue thus having to do a second 40 minute run to get to the ending potentially more if they get unlucky or have a skill issue and die prior to getting to the end area.
None of what I am saying is to make it easier. Genuinely it should be harder or require some character specific achievement be done. But as it stands now the game strictly wastes your time and thats annoying
dusty heron
I still do not understand the concept of this making it "easier to get" when, in...
because your one DOES make it easier, which is why we provided a alternative solution, your way is unlocking them in the main menu after you’ve completed 200% with that character, which again, makes it easier from grinding up until that point to get said character skin, we’ve already told you a anti time wasting solution: adding a tooltip or something into the main menu or achievement so that people already know you need 50 omni stones to buy the skin before doing 200%, so what’s the issue with our alternative solution? it just seems like you want it to be in the main menu so you can unlock the skin yourself since you’ve forgotten about it or didn’t have enough omni stones which just seems rather selfish, especially after you’ve already said that it should be harder to achieve.
Your steps require:
200% completion
50 omnistones, if no omnistones or forget: just get 50 omnistones
the steps that are required in ours (without alternative solution):
200% completion
50 omnistones (if forgot or no omnistones, repeat)
the steps required in alternative solution:
50 omnistones knowledge reading achievement/tooltip
completing 200%
obtaining omni skin
hopefully the steps above shows you that what you are suggesting is making it entirely easier
candid plover
because your one DOES make it easier, which is why we provided a alternative sol...
Honestly by this logic it should prolly be 50 omni stones IN THAT RUN that way its an actual grind
It would make it more difficult if anything and make the fact its in the shop at the end of a run make more sense
Because to get 50 you usually need to do 1 loop
So given a "Reach (name of place) on 200% after earning 50 omnistones in that run" tooltip could at least make them more consistent
dusty heron
Honestly by this logic it should prolly be 50 omni stones IN THAT RUN that way i...
that would entail the person having done more than a few loops, probably 4-5, it’s still a grind and that way isn’t any less different
dusty heron
Because to get 50 you usually need to do 1 loop
it is NOT 1 loop i dont know where you got that info, unless you’re including the ones you get from chaos, which dont count at all whatsoever since the omniskins appear in delta
candid plover
that would entail the person having done more than a few loops, probably 4-5, it...
? My last run to get the skin I got 50 omnistones in 1 or 2 loops cant remember
So stage 10-15 ish
dusty heron
? My last run to get the skin I got 50 omnistones in 1 or 2 loops cant remember
did you reach the number 50 from 0, or did you obtain 50 from the run itself?
dusty heron
you get ~40 from getting to stage 11 (including the chaos boss fight)
candid plover
I had 0 at stage 1 start and 50 when I reached final place with apotheosis on my 2nd or 3rd (cant remember) time visiting the final stage
before the boss
dusty heron
I had 0 at stage 1 start and 50 when I reached final place with apotheosis on my...
so you went to apotheosis not the chaos boss fight?
candid plover
I did the fight but before the fight I had 50
thats the run I tragically forgot to click the statue
dusty heron
So stage 10-15 ish
so this isn’t consistent at all
candid plover
I cant remember what stage I was on lmao. I just played and got to the final stage 2-3 times (cant remember which one) and had enough 
It didnt even seem like that much more than I usually get
dusty heron
yeah cause it isn’t that much more, but that much more counts a lot
dusty heron
because your one DOES make it easier, which is why we provided a alternative sol...
either way, situation 3s steps sound a lot more better than just moving the option to buy it into the menu, because 200% is fairly easy, and if they just get carried to quiet place (which some already do) it’ll just make the omni suit much easier to get
i’d say just add a tooltip at the achievement or database
candid plover
I can agree thats the bare minimum imo but if they did that itd at least be MORE user friendly
dusty heron
yeah
carmine coral
I think you should just be able to purify the quorium inside the quiet place instead of in palium.
dusty heron
I think you should just be able to purify the quorium inside the quiet place ins...
i mean the quiet place is the final boss room thing its in the The Nowhere
carmine coral
But then why's the apotheosis there :/
They could then also make the torches around the corrupted quorium imbedded into the map which would be cooler than just floating imo
grand charm
But then why's the apotheosis there :/
I agree with this point specifically. If you choose to fight chaos, you should HAVE to commit to the fight, and not get the option to leave.
Unless you just quit the run altogether
Apotheosis should be in Palium only not in Quiet place shop
dusty heron
What, that's like not my point
I think wrong reply
carmine coral
Wdym?
dusty heron
as in they replied to the wrong message, probably wanted to reply to me