#beginner-lounge

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noble umbra
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asdf

misty elbow
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hey, whats BLU like?

sweet topaz
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wow sinus crafts still got hands

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i don't wanna eat my food :((

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wow even food isn't enough for guaranteed max

scarlet escarp
# misty elbow hey, whats BLU like?

Outside of the grind to get every spell, the job has a pretty braindead healer-like rotation outside of their burst window which is just chock full of bullshit they spam /affectionate

misty elbow
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that bad huh

left grotto
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oh boy..might have messed up my chocobo dyeing..

scarlet escarp
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It’s a very strong job, don’t get me wrong, but it is kinda simple outside of burst if you aren’t trying to be fancy

misty elbow
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Fair enough

clever zenith
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the burst is very, very "random blu shit go"

misty elbow
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Oh theres no specific rotation?

clever zenith
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with a forced 15s of "you burnt out nuking the boss"

misty elbow
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or is there a flowchart rotation

clever zenith
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no its a set opener

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but uh

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its very not standard to what you expect

signal hill
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BLU has a handful of core spells and the rest is whatever

clever zenith
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is the octuple weave still alive?

misty elbow
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as a BLM and a RDM, I am a simpleton that knows two combos CatNod

sweet topaz
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blu has 124 spells so yes theres a set opener you can do for optimal play, but you can also just have random bullshit go

sweet topaz
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its a limited job

midnight mural
sweet topaz
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not made or allowed for normal content outside of unrestricted parties

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so they can do whatever they want with it

signal hill
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You can learn how to vomit fish at people nyaissacoffee

sweet topaz
signal hill
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It's an interrupt, it's actually useful

sweet topaz
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cause you have to unlock every spell by seeing an ememy do it, then kill it to learn it

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misty elbow
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oh god

sweet topaz
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*outside of 1 spell

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your starting one

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and actually some are from totems

misty elbow
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I think not then for simply my brain would fry going around and getting them all

sweet topaz
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which you get as a reward for learning x amount of spells

misty elbow
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maybe when I have done most of all else

signal hill
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The game hints at where you can get the spells

sweet topaz
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its also a lower lvl cap then everything else

lunar patio
sweet topaz
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and we're getting beastmaster in september, our second limited job

clever zenith
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had to beat down a kraken with your bare hands

sweet topaz
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which will have a lvl cap of 50

misty elbow
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Oh huh

signal hill
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Also its main source of exp is killing overworld mobs

sweet topaz
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beastmaster is simllar process of grind for your buttons

signal hill
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since it can't queue for dungeons and roulettes like a normal job

sweet topaz
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but you grind for different monsters to summon for different attacks and such

misty elbow
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god thats so fuckin weird

lavish moss
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Hello anyone know why is it that when I defeat gauis it doesn’t let me fight the ultima weapon? A portal appears in front of me to leave the dungeon but I don’t get a new instance to fight the ultima weapon?

sweet topaz
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they're basically their own minigames/isolated side content

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using existing content as its playground

signal hill
heady spindle
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probably still have praetorium selected

signal hill
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Prae and decumana are seperate duties

heady spindle
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hit the clear selection button at the bottom of the duty finder window

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and select porta decumana

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porta decumana is under the trials section

lavish moss
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I’ve beaten gauis twice and I don’t see a new duty on my list to do?

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Unless I’m confused

signal hill
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It's not in trials?

lavish moss
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Wait omg

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Is it on another tab?

heady spindle
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yes

midnight mural
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yes

heady spindle
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because its not a dungeon

lavish moss
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Dude I’ve been queuing the same dungeon

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Lolol

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Got it

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It’s a trail

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Dude I just did the gauis quest 3 times

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Lmfao

misty elbow
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its ok, getting your reps in for Main Scenario Duty Roulette

lavish moss
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Thanks guy I’ll check the trails one after I get out of this. I’m like there no way I have to do this all over again right?

cold quail
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you'll get used to it

lavish moss
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I thought I was doing something wrong

cold quail
signal hill
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well uh

lavish moss
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Well I was but yeah

signal hill
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You can queue in main scenario roulette to get these duties + meridianum again for big exp and poetics once a day

lavish moss
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I’ve heard Nero’s whole speach 3 times

signal hill
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But if you don't want to, no need to

lavish moss
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Okay I’ll check it out right now

scarlet escarp
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Ok but what if

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You hear it a fourth time

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Think about it

signal hill
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You need to finish decumana first methinks nyaissacoffee

midnight mural
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too bad its not still part of the dungeon

slender oasis
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hai im looking for a "mentor" or something along the lines haha i am super new to ff14 and im abit overwhelmed so need someone to help me learn more about the game and help me >< ! also i know i could watch videos on the game and i have but that just barely scratches the surface ^^

edgy temple
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just ask whatever questions you have here =)

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there's always people hanging out to help,

cedar kernel
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no one in particular is babying you ngl

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but if u ask here people will answer

cold quail
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novice network:

edgy temple
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not those people

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there are no standards there

molten vine
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NN is very subjective in experience

rocky hazel
misty elbow
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glad I came here and not went to NN

cold quail
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wait really?

molten vine
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But its always active place 24/7

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Which is the one redeeming thing about ig

cold quail
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I ask stuff there all the time

cedar kernel
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if urs is helpful, cool

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not all are

molten vine
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I also answer stuff there as well

rocky hazel
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whats the novice network

molten vine
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A forum where sprouts and mentors can discuss

Intent being the mentor helps answer doubts sprouts ask

cedar kernel
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its a global chatroom

molten vine
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But some NNs end up becoming a 2nd free company/group chat for some folks

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And as a result

rocky hazel
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is this on reddit or

signal hill
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In-game chat

cold quail
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its in game

rocky hazel
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ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

molten vine
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A mentor can invite you in it

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The issue? The requirements being a mentor

edgy temple
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oh dang my relic materials you could totally buy from your GC sold on the marketboard

slender oasis
misty elbow
cold quail
molten vine
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No and thank god no

signal hill
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They're world specific

molten vine
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There is no global chat NN

cold quail
slender oasis
molten vine
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The MMOs that did have world chat

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Always end up

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Yea this is why i dont want it

cold quail
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I was under an imperssion of such

molten vine
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Yea.. again i wont say mentors in game are bad

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There r good ones as well

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But its the classic apples in a box case

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You have good apples

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You have bad apples

signal hill
cold quail
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its just burger king crown anyway for me playdead

molten vine
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Hence the meme yea

signal hill
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It'll be a bit more focused at least

molten vine
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The bad apples are why it is called BK crown

cold quail
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no fucking way

clever zenith
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top tier screenshot from when I was a sprout in NN

misty elbow
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me when I spread misinfo

molten vine
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Then its even better

wary widget
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if I use b2 against one mob, it's st :)

midnight mural
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b2 used to be a point-blank on the caster

misty elbow
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come on its simple you use B2 to switch and then Freeze for the mana

clever zenith
obtuse gazelle
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Why did no one tell me monk is this fun

cold quail
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it always has been

molten vine
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There has been arguments in my NN chat regarding tank attitude in dungeons and all. To even having detailed discussion on mechanics of extremes and savages

cold quail
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even the pugilist quest stories are fun

scarlet escarp
molten vine
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In NN... its like imagine endgame lounge talk

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In this lounge

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😭

cold quail
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but its was for novice mewpaissa

signal hill
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oh yeah

clever zenith
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better than EW spoilers

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in NN

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:)

molten vine
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Why tf do i see idylic in NN

misty elbow
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oh right checks notes its uhhh this crap

molten vine
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Discussion on m12sp2 mechanics

obtuse gazelle
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I’ve noticed NN regulars tend to have superiority complex

clever zenith
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god that is so cursed

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I love how fire2/blizz2 are so bad you genuienly just never use them unless you HAVE to

molten vine
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Am sure its them

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They only see ultimates as challenging

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Rest are a joke even if one struggled in it

obtuse gazelle
signal hill
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Four point furry

molten vine
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One even told me chaotic alliance raids is

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Casual content

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When its ... not.

obtuse gazelle
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Even when it comes to crafting

neat agate
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lmao even

obtuse gazelle
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“Oh you’re… doing ||moon||? Stinky poor sprout, I leveled my crafters by spending millions on collectables”

cold quail
obtuse gazelle
molten vine
# neat agate lol

If you did stuff like DSR, TOP and FRU yea to you chaotic is casualsadge

molten vine
obtuse gazelle
molten vine
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I thought they were quieter

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24* but.true

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See those r done in discords where

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Most have cleared some amt of high end

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So ur perception is skewed

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Towards those peeps

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I did chaotic unsynced like 10-15 times

obtuse gazelle
molten vine
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And last week we only had 3 wipes

cold quail
molten vine
edgy temple
molten vine
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If i need help i ask

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Then dip out

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I rather mentor from sprouts i meet

cold quail
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imagine passive aggressive to an actual sprouts

obtuse gazelle
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This is 100% true

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But like JUST ANSWER THEIR WUESTION

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They just kept going back and forth

cold quail
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I mean I get but what a loser these people are in a beginner group chat with that attitude

scarlet escarp
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At least we pretend to be better

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Most of the time

cold quail
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that's like reddit mod ah shit

edgy temple
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looks at you

molten vine
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uwucarby i do mentor people

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In game i meanBluNyaissa

clever zenith
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All aether current quests done for zone 5

edgy temple
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wasn't the reason you got your crown so you could get back into the novice network and ask for carries on old high end content

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👀

molten vine
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Ehh no

misty elbow
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yeah but you're a paladin, you're hoighty toighty and need to get off your soap box xD /s

obtuse gazelle
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I try not to unless it’s necessary, and I just go “blank, can I offer you a tip?”

molten vine
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Now i dont have to worry in 8.0 about that

obtuse gazelle
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Most of the time they’re willing to listen

edgy temple
clever zenith
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still need the last msq one

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but we are getting closer ™

signal hill
molten vine
edgy temple
sage pewter
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This may be too opinion-based for q&h but what tank do yall recommend for someone who still doesn’t understand the controller huds :D

cedar kernel
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roll a d4

sage pewter
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LOL ok that was my second method

cedar kernel
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a button to mitigate a big attack

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ogcd for damage

obtuse gazelle
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Drk’s has a busy skillset but it doesn’t matter

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Yeah

molten vine
sage pewter
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Wonderful that makes my life much easier

molten vine
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Drk is a solid endgame tank too^uwucarby

clever zenith
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"several cutscenes will play in sequence"

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hmm

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maybe tomorrow

misty elbow
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nah use it to wind down for bed and fall asleep in your chair

midnight mural
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OHHHH

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I KNOW WHERE YOU ARE NOW

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midnight mural
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bro looks like a durian

edgy temple
cunning narwhal
edgy temple
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a giant one, and an enemy one

misty elbow
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lucky its not a spider

midnight mural
misty elbow
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I wish to jail Trachtoum for misinformation x2

sweet topaz
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yeah TT cards burning me out its lego batman time

kindred kettle
noble umbra
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sup noobs

misty elbow
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upsetti cause Materia is a dead server when people are at work ;_;

noble umbra
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:(

jade halo
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Well Materia is pretty dead either way

Unfortunately

misty elbow
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yeah, problems of being from Aus

jade halo
# misty elbow yeah, problems of being from Aus

No it’s mainly cuz the server was introduced way too late in the games lifetime and most AUS players already had fully established themselves elsewhere so there was barely any initiative for them to swap over

misty elbow
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Maybe I do pay and move to NA and just deal with the ping

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would help my progress since I've gotta do a Raid and a Trial rn to progress MSQ

jade halo
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I’d say get noclippy but innocent idk how it works and idk if you on console oops

molten vine
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See which timings fit ur timezone

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Since servers have a sort of

low hazel
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i reached max gil on free trial

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what do I spend ts on

cedar kernel
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!faq ftgil

minor marshBOT
molten vine
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"Active interval"

low hazel
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tyhsm

molten vine
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EU for example is always actibe at reset -2 to reset+ 6

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In this bracket

jade halo
sand stirrup
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Question for the people since I just first visited Gold Saucer: is this "air force one" thing something I should have done? It looked competitive so I chickened out

cedar kernel
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have you ever played a on rails shooter

misty elbow
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It will be a lil, only reason I've been on so much last 2 days is cause I was sick, so I'll have to work it around my full time job

jade halo
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Oh it’s not that difficult

sand stirrup
cedar kernel
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ig

jade halo
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You can def do it!!

cedar kernel
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its just that

jade halo
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You just on a ride essentially and shoot targets as they appear

shy pike
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@brisk helm are you awake

jade halo
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Everyday I wake up and sash’s name becomes more cursed

misty elbow
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they are a gremlin, in the best way

shy pike
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not awake to troll then, back to finals and hd2 suffering

shy pike
sweet topaz
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oh and chocobo racing and i think lord of verminion?

jade halo
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And technically fall guys when it reruns

sweet topaz
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true

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which even then for TT card you have to go out of your way to right click on a player and challenge them to a duel

sand stirrup
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Man, there are like no hairstyles I want for my character besides the one I started with

jade halo
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Coraaaal

smoky kraken
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hihi

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made a new friend over hsr, it’s a good day

sand stirrup
jade halo
jade halo
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sand stirrup
smoky kraken
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I’m on asia servers
my pearl savings are going well, 250+ pulls so far

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also my chronic pain flare up ended and I got to start playing ffxiv again yippee

sand stirrup
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I spent all my saved pulls on SW999 lol

jade halo
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Coral I’m still mad you not NA

sand stirrup
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got her e4

jade halo
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CANT VISIT U ON DA TRAIN…

smoky kraken
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I wish I could transferrr, everyone else I know who plays is on NA too

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hoyo please let me pay for a server transfer like ffxiv

autumn scarab
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are you on EU coral

smoky kraken
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asia

autumn scarab
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oh..

jade halo
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Tirhus can you like

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Read

autumn scarab
smoky kraken
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the friend that got me into the game was on asia but they’ve since stopped playing so now I’m just stuck here

misty elbow
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I uhhhhh

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i fuckin uhhh

jade halo
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Go on accept

misty elbow
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this community is weird

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I did

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guess I got a Moai now

sand stirrup
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🗿

autumn scarab
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🗿

jade halo
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🗿

misty elbow
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He so smol

sand stirrup
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Littol

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I'm still vibing with my goobue minion

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Lil guy cute as hell

jade halo
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I’m vibing with my daughter minion

misty elbow
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Man guess I'll do my RDM quest while I hope duty finder pops Whorleater

signal hill
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I've been using the delubrum boss minion

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it toots

sand stirrup
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I need these daily roulette DRKs to understand that I CANNOT heal them as much as they need if they don't use their mitigation

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You can't pull the entirety of Stone Vigil and expect me to keep up I don't even have Lustrate in that dungeon

jade halo
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I need healers to understand to not heal my ass when I use living dead

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YET HERE WE FUCKING ARE

cold sparrow
sand stirrup
sand stirrup
wary widget
sand stirrup
wary widget
cold sparrow
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you will have the best stats if scaled down

misty elbow
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YAY WHORLEATER POPPED

molten vine
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When does drk have an invuln

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In sv

cold sparrow
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they dont

molten vine
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Only warrior can invuln in SV

cold sparrow
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but I think thats in general

wary widget
sand stirrup
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That doesn't save his ass from being chomped by 12 lil dragons

cold sparrow
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if the tank pulls everything but doesnt press rampart

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thats on the tank

jade halo
molten vine
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If a drk says i wanna LD

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Dont heal the drk

sand stirrup
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I had to res the guy so I don't think he was doing that

molten vine
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They can completely manage themselves

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They barely need any assistance

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Since they heal while "walking dead" buff is up

jade halo
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Healing the DRK during the living dead window prevents them from using the mitigation to its full potential hence

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Just don’t heal them when they use it

molten vine
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Also stone vigil

sand stirrup
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Okay, but if they die then I should have healed them surely?

heady spindle
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theyre in stone vigil

molten vine
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Dark knight doesnt have

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Living dead

heady spindle
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they wouldnt have living dead

molten vine
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No tank except warrior has invuln

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Smh keyboard

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In vigil

jade halo
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Oh no I was just explaining how the mit itself works cuz of the response they gave me to the comment I made LMAO

autumn scarab
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stone vigil is just generally rough

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make sure to sprint when the tank sprints

molten vine
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The ice mobs are the worst

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Since arms length

sand stirrup
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Fr could they not have made it just... One level higher so I could have Lustrate

molten vine
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Doesnt work on em

autumn scarab
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ideally you sprint out of combat cuz then it's 20seconds instead of 10

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to keep up with the tank

molten vine
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Warrior atleast can holmgang in that dungeon

sand stirrup
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I do my best to keep up with the tank

jade halo
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Tanks pulling the entire things with all the ice mobs and being confused as to why more often than not they die kekwTEA

I feel my soul leave my body if I manage to keep the tank alive

autumn scarab
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well dont get discouraged - as i said Stone vigil is a bit rough

sand stirrup
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Fairy can't heal them if I'm not nearby (I know the fairy has a big range)

molten vine
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Most tanks stop before ice mobs

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In SV

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Most mobs are fine

The ice ones hurt the most

sand stirrup
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Oh my guy was dying way before the ice sprites lol

misty elbow
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Welp Levi down, that was uhhh kinda easy

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I guess since peeps knew to button

molten vine
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Drk can ig shadow wall rampart

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They have dark mind yea?

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In SV

signal hill
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!action dark mid

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sweet topaz
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true

molten vine
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Yea no

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They dont

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Flood gaming lets go

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DMind is level 45

sand stirrup
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The responses I get to this topic are wildly different, it's so interesting

Like half the people I ask about this say "oh no, Stone Vigil is a pain to w2w" and the other half say it's the only thing to do

molten vine
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Arms length did they use?

misty elbow
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wait at RDM60 can I just melee combo twice?

molten vine
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And reprisal

jade halo
minor marshBOT
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**Dark Mind** : lvl 45 Dark Knight (60.0 second cooldown)(Instant cast time)

Reduces physical damage taken by 10% and magic damage taken by 20%.
Duration: 10s

molten vine
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They are also considered mitigations

sweet topaz
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you w2w like 99% of dungeons, some arr dungeons, stone vigil being one, are very awk to w2w but still doable

sand stirrup
molten vine
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Ig but cant confirmpaissaowo

sand stirrup
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One was bright and looked like an upright guy I think

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And the other was porple

signal hill
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That's their tank stance

molten vine
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Ok he used wall

signal hill
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Purple one is shadow wall?

jade halo
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!action Shadow wall

minor marshBOT
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**Shadow Wall** : lvl 38 Dark Knight (120.0 second cooldown)(Instant cast time)

Reduces damage taken by 30%.
Duration: 15s

molten vine
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!action rampart

minor marshBOT
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**Rampart** : lvl 0 (90.0 second cooldown)(Instant cast time)

Reduces damage taken by 10%.
Duration: 20s

jade halo
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Wow no icon

strange fog
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roasted

molten vine
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Kupo why

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Also this is false

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Rampart description

sand stirrup
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But yeah, I'm trusting people to do their jobs so I don't check them too much

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I also don't know how to check their gear anyway

sweet topaz
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yeah many people don't do their jobs well lmfao

molten vine
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Right click-> inspect

sand stirrup
misty elbow
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I don't even know how to do BLM rotation efficiently without fucking xD

sand stirrup
autumn scarab
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well BLM has a different rotation every 5 levels

molten vine
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Also as scholar

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It hurts since

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You cant art of war

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Until dzamael

sand stirrup
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No art of war, no lustrate, no nothin

molten vine
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Ye

sand stirrup
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I will confess I did an oopsie on another Stone Vigil when I forgor to resummon my fairy but that only happened once!

misty elbow
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is job quests spoilers or nah post em here

scarlet escarp
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Spoilers, though the pre-30 class quests are kinda whatever in what story they might have

sand stirrup
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I think they're spoilers to discuss what happens

brisk helm
misty elbow
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so probs general lore and spoilers post then?

bitter tiger
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werk

scarlet escarp
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I’d use the channel relevant to their level, so ARR for 1-50

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General Lore is no holds barred and can get you spoiled on anything

worthy shadow
scarlet escarp
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Like how Urianger is secretly hot

cedar kernel
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?

misty elbow
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ah ok just posting about the hot bad guy

sweet topaz
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30 raids in no TT drop i think i hate these rates

bitter tiger
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harvest why are you big bazonga alcoholic lady

misty elbow
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it automatically knows what you crave and desire then keeps it from you

midnight mural
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raid roul gave me the 9th clown

sweet topaz
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these are my final 2 cards from raids

sand stirrup
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Ugh I wanna use sage so badddd

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But I don't wanna pay for a story skip because I need healing experience and also I wanna experience the story

misty elbow
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WHY ARE THE BAD GUYS ALWAYS SO FUCKING PRETTY MAN

sweet topaz
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you dont need a story skip for sage

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just job skip if you really want it

molten vine
#

On a job

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Then in limsa

sand stirrup
molten vine
#

Just beyond the dancer npc unlock

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Is sage

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I think

sand stirrup
#

I'm playing Scholar so I have an idea of how I should play

sweet topaz
#

yeah fair

midnight mural
#

sage is like 100 feet from the aetheryte

sweet topaz
#

just do your daily roulettes to speed up your xp

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also are you full game or free trial

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i forgor

molten vine
#

Which on healer is the quickest

sand stirrup
molten vine
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Since q times are instant

sand stirrup
sweet topaz
#

oh

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you can't play sage

molten vine
#

Trial then well

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Ye

slate elk
#

Challenge log xp, hunts, roulletes, tribes

sand stirrup
slate elk
#

You have lot of sources to level up

sweet topaz
#

you need endwalker registered to your account

molten vine
#

Sage reaper

slate elk
#

Sage needs ew

sweet topaz
#

which is not part of free trial/standard

molten vine
#

Viper and picto

sand stirrup
#

bruhHHH

molten vine
#

None of these 4 ft can play

sweet topaz
#

!faq editions

minor marshBOT
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What does each edition of the game contain?
slate elk
#

Wait for 4 more years

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They will add ew eventually

sand stirrup
#

I don't like the amount of stuff Scholar has so I guess I'll be forced to buy the damn game

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Very cheeky squeenix

molten vine
#

Get to level 70 then buy game for sage

sand stirrup
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I don't even know if I'll like Sage, it just seems right but I could be very wrong lmao

cedar kernel
sand stirrup
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I don't like the idea of managing it

signal hill
#

Dismissal?

molten vine
#

Dissipation ig

sand stirrup
signal hill
#

oh that

heady spindle
#

look sometimes you jus tneed to eat the faire for extra juice

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it comes back on its own np

signal hill
#

Scholar is a bit like the "tool for every occasion" healer

worthy shadow
#

Its yummy

sand stirrup
#

I like the idea of a healer that heals by doing damage

molten vine
#

Yea sage is that

signal hill
#

I've never had to eat the fairy in normal content, I only do it out of boredom

slate elk
#

Kardia heals arent as strong as sch fairy heals

worthy shadow
#

Shield go big

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Feel good

sand stirrup
#

I get the feeling learning to use Eukrasia is gonna be a tricky experience

worthy shadow
#

Eukrasian Prognosis can go die in a ditch

slate elk
#

Eukrasia is pressing 2 buttons to do function of 1

sand stirrup
#

Does EVERY sage skill have two versions or what

slate elk
#

You get used to it

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No

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Dosis and diagnosis/prognosis

midnight mural
slate elk
#

Thats it

worthy shadow
#

Only single target and aoe

signal hill
#

Dosis, diagnosis, prognosis, dyskrasia

sand stirrup
#

Okay not so bad

slate elk
#

Sage has aoe dot too

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I forgot

sand stirrup
#

Mhm mhm

jade halo
#

@bitter tiger

signal hill
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Dosis/dyskrasia are DoT and diagnosis/prognosis is the shield gcd

sand stirrup
#

And then there's Addersgall/Addersting

slate elk
#

Thats just free heal and damage

sand stirrup
#

But that's not so different from Aetherflow stuff

slate elk
#

Like whm lily

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Insta cast gcds

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Aether flow is ogcds

worthy shadow
#

The kit is pretty condensed and streamlined once you get a hold of it

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Too streamlined....

sand stirrup
#

I more meant like, managing stacks to spend

sweet topaz
#

addersgall you just always use to not stay at 3 for mp economy, addersting is just a happy accident when you need to shield and it breaks

slate elk
#

You basically never overcap adderall

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Addersting is for movement

sand stirrup
#

So what ogcd does Sage have then

signal hill
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The choles

slate elk
#

It has few

sand stirrup
#

Riiiight

worthy shadow
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Ixichort

slate elk
#

Well not few but same amount as sch i imagine...its been a while since i played healers

signal hill
#

Roughly speaking
druo = lustrate
ixo = indom
kera = sacred soil

molten vine
#

Sage is the only healer that can do aoe dmg pre level 45 imo

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Why

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!action phlegma

signal hill
#

Tauro is a bigger druo

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**Phlegma** : lvl 26 Sage (400 MP) (40.0 second cooldown)(Instant cast time)

Deals unaspected damage to target and all enemies nearby it with a potency of 400 for the first enemy, and 30% less for all remaining enemies.
Additional Effect: Restores HP to targets under the effect of Kardion granted by you
Cure Potency: 170
Maximum Charges: 2
Recast timer cannot be affected by status effects or gear attributes.

sweet topaz
#

when you get it, toxicon (the button that uses addersting stacks) is less damage than your normal ST attack, at like lvl 82 it becomes damage neutral in ST.

molten vine
#

This stuff

sand stirrup
#

I think my main problem as a healer rn is I'm stuck in the mindset that I have "rotations" when it's more that I should just be doing damage and healing as needed with what's needed

worthy shadow
#

Yeah

molten vine
#

Phlegma in lower level content is so fun ngl

slate elk
#

Healing and mitting is more based on mech

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Damage wise they are fairly simple

#

For dungeons you can yolo a lot

bitter tiger
worthy shadow
#

Fancy

sand stirrup
#

Thing is with Sage, my "doing damage" IS healing as needed until big stuff comes along and I need to drop a chole or something

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So it feels right

molten vine
#

Yea tauro is a heal+mit

slate elk
#

Spam eprog to win /s

worthy shadow
#

For SCH, doing nothing is healing

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Go, my faerie

slate elk
#

Sch has fatter shields

sand stirrup
#

Would it be a good idea (once I unlock Sage) to do a few low level dungeons/raids to understand my tools and work my way up to the full kit?

sweet topaz
#

i like playing sge when i wanna turn my brain off and i like playing sch when i actually wanna play a barrier healer

worthy shadow
#

The fattest

worthy shadow
#

SCH is the only real shield healer

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SGE can only become a shield healer by burning its entire kit

sweet topaz
#

sge has shields but like most of its buttons just feel like and are straight up mits

slate elk
#

Sge is more simple to play

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More straight forward

worthy shadow
#

Yeah

sand stirrup
#

Thing is I'm not noticing much shielding happening as Scholar but idk maybe I'm just not high enough level to notice? I drop a Adloquium before a boss and I pop my fairy healing plus a Succor when AOE damage comes

slate elk
#

Sch has its jank

onyx wadi
#

Hello need help spam dungeon to get to lvl 60.

slate elk
#

Not that much

#

But it is noticeable

worthy shadow
#

Since it's more pure healing and instacast it's a lot more straightforward

lunar patio
sweet topaz
#

honestly i like never use shields period in normal content

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unless shit is being eaten

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i just mit and heal ogcd through most my issues

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or theres downtime

worthy shadow
#

Release day spreadlo is so good

sand stirrup
#

It'll be nice to unlock Sacred Soil and Indomitable

sweet topaz
#

i wish sacred soil was good low level icant

sand stirrup
onyx wadi
slate elk
#

Its free mit still

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Even though it lacks regen

sweet topaz
#

i prefer to use my aetherflow on anything else

worthy shadow
#

Energy draiiiiiin

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Bzzzzzzt

sand stirrup
#

I mean I did use Lustrate pretty good on my first time using it

sweet topaz
#

lustrate, indom, and excog are just much better buttons than SS until it gets its regen trait

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10% mit with nothing or a heal

#

or even just energy drain

#

kerachole is the same right?

slate elk
#

Yes

#

Kera is same

worthy shadow
#

Instead of 10% mit, its take 90% of damage suffered

slate elk
#

Kera is better because you dont have to stand inside circle

sweet topaz
#

true

worthy shadow
#

For some reason they just worded this button differently...

sweet topaz
#

very smart devs, you wouldn't understand

sand stirrup
#

As a new sprout Scholar: my mindset is "save the stacks of Aetherflow until someone needs Lustrate, if Aetherflow is coming back, pop Energy Drains between Ruins"

sweet topaz
#

yeah thats the mindset all the way till endgame

slate elk
#

Ed is kinda shit ass button tbf

sweet topaz
#

just replace lustrate with other buttons

slate elk
#

But damage is damage

worthy shadow
#

If any button is on the chopping block for evo mode I'd bet on ED

sand stirrup
#

Does Lustrate get replaced by Excog, I'm guessing?

sweet topaz
#

no

#

2 different buttons

slate elk
#

Excog has higher cd

sand stirrup
#

Not replaced I mean

#

For general use

#

Is it better to excog

slate elk
#

Excog is better

sweet topaz
#

excog is better yeah, but it has a 45cd

slate elk
#

But you use both

sweet topaz
#

so you can't spam it like lustrate

sand stirrup
#

I seee

slate elk
#

Sge has druchole and taurochole

#

Same thing

sand stirrup
#

Ngl since I haven't reached it yet, I'm really struggling to manage the ideas of the tactics

sweet topaz
#

short answer, you don't bother

slate elk
#

In dungoens you wont be using a lot of your healer kit

sand stirrup
#

Like Deployment Tactics: my best shield is Adloquium, does that really matter enough to spread to the party?

slate elk
#

Because content dont need it

sweet topaz
#

you get other buttons to help make it better

sand stirrup
#

Ohhh like the autocrit

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sweet topaz
#

you can protraction dissipation an adlo for a guarantee crit heal and more healing done for biggest shield

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then use deployment to spreadlo it

#

for giga party wide shield

slate elk
#

Then see boss do raidwide which eats only 30% of it

sand stirrup
#

I keep seeing this spreadlo word and I dont know what it means

slate elk
#

Very cool

sweet topaz
#

deployment on adlo

#

spread adlo

sand stirrup
#

Ah

sweet topaz
#

spreadlo

misty elbow
#

Spread Aldi

sand stirrup
#

See I hate the idea of dissipation

sweet topaz
#

i've never used it i think lmfao

sand stirrup
#

I'm too used to the fairy handling stuff

sweet topaz
#

emergency, deployment, and dissipation are like almost never needed in normal content

#

stuff never hits that hard or is dangerous enough unless everything is going to shit and you need to clutch up

slate elk
#

Like I said you wont be using most of your kit in dungeons

signal hill
#

Expedient is funny though

slate elk
#

Basic aoe heals and single target heals just do the job

sand stirrup
slate elk
#

You can use em

#

But it feels more effort for same result

molten vine
#

Problem is tanks and dungeom damagesadge

#

In high levels

slate elk
#

Nothing wrong with using em if you wanna

sweet topaz
#

yeah no problem trying, just know its not the end of the world if you don't always giga properly use it

#

cause its really only needed in high end stuff, or when shit hits the fan

slate elk
#

Yoshi p said if you wanna heal then play ult omegalul

sand stirrup
#

idk why I chose to be a healer lol I hate responsibility but it just feels right

sweet topaz
#

sometimes i use dissipation just to spam ED 3 times CAUGHT

brisk helm
worthy shadow
brisk helm
molten vine
sweet topaz
brisk helm
slate elk
#

Spam medica 2 to victory yippie

sweet topaz
#

OH HER LMFAOOO

worthy shadow
#

It goes in the square hole

sweet topaz
brisk helm
rocky hazel
#

WHY ARE THERE 80 LVL 50 QUEST

signal hill
#

Don't tell me you never did that to make the last boss of the dungeon die 3 seconds sooner PerliFumo

sweet topaz
#

you still have more arr to do

heady spindle
#

because they were added over the course of the patch cycle between ARR release and HW release

slate elk
#

Because fuck you: says se

rocky hazel
#

im in a never ending loop

brisk helm
#

Because it's 2 years of content

rocky hazel
#

thats crazy

molten vine
#

Orbonne has stuff a healer has to pay attention to iirc

When i die to armor crushsadge

slate elk
#

Every expnasion has post msq quests

sand stirrup
heady spindle
#

how dare they add more story content

brisk helm
#

No

slate elk
#

Arr is longest at 80

rocky hazel
#

no

misty elbow
#

You thought you were finished with ARR

brisk helm
#

Heavensward starts at 50

sand stirrup
#

Aw

brisk helm
#

You don't need exp

slate elk
#

Hw onwards its like 50

signal hill
#

They give poop exp because at the time they would give zero exp

misty elbow
#

dw Im here with you Em

worthy shadow
#

But what about second breakfast

molten vine
#

And also set hp 1 to and doom unless full HP

sand stirrup
eager saddle
sweet topaz
#

everyone eeping

#

no fun

rocky hazel
#

aw man

#

thats rough one

molten vine
#

Raid roul?

slate elk
#

Just stop counting quests

#

And do em

sweet topaz
#

hard queuing p8/12

sand stirrup
#

Oh well, nothin to do but get back to the grind

molten vine
sand stirrup
#

Pretty sure I'm coming up to that block of level 50 quests myself

rocky hazel
#

yessir too bad im a slow reader

molten vine
#

I got p8 card when duoing that unsynced

slate elk
#

Counting them wont help

molten vine
#

P12 i am afraid if its duoable

#

We will have the dps for adds or not

sweet topaz
#

im tempted to just put up a pf to unsync, i just keep queuing thinking no one gonna join

#

not tonight though

brisk helm
#

I think i have p12 card but im missing p8

sweet topaz
#

p18 OOOO

rocky hazel
#

i really enjoyed the moogle boss fight

brisk helm
#

Extra pandae

worthy shadow
#

Pandamoniumiumiumiumium

molten vine
#

P9 one can duo

#

P10... vuln stack moment

worthy shadow
#

Just duo it solo

molten vine
#

Cos towers

sweet topaz
#

p8/12 are the 2 last raid cards i need
7.0 final trial and 7.4 trial are the last trial cards i need
lvl 83, 6.1/2/4/5 are the last dungeon cards i need

#

then random bullshit for the rest

misty elbow
sweet topaz
#

i am not looking forward to grinding for the EO and PT cards

#

i hope out of all those drop the quickest.......

worthy shadow
#

Evercold is soon enough that waiting could be comfy to unsync with 110 evo jobs

#

Work on the DD ones first

sweet topaz
#

true

#

i also need thav shared fate, and like every V&C dungeon

rocky hazel
#

btw most amazing armour set

sweet topaz
#

should work on the stuff i can't unsync first

rocky hazel
#

leopard print AND denim booty shorts

sweet topaz
#

and forked tower

misty elbow
#

I want to punch this fuckin guy

sweet topaz
#

which i got my clear so i can join reclear groups now!

#

but that means i have to do forked tower again

molten vine
#

Cats aggroed mepaissaowo

#

Now 2 cats are beside me paissaowo paissaowo

#

Ngl i do give some of my food to cats in office nowmewpaissa

sweet topaz
worthy shadow
#

Rainbow shrub just kind of gate keeps much easier bosses

brisk helm
#

I feel like a complete idiot because i just die

heady spindle
worthy shadow
#

Its a hard dps check thanks to those adds stunlocking you with chain knockbacks until you eat the boss's stomp

heady spindle
#

there's nothing to fear from shrubs though

bitter tiger
#

hi kel

#

hi saser

heady spindle
#

just give em to the knights who say ni

#

hello ebi

brisk helm
#

Hi ebi

brisk helm
heady spindle
#

im sure they would be very happy with a rainbow shrub

#

they seem pretty inclusive

sweet topaz
#

its all so slow

worthy shadow
#

Oh... the floor crawling

#

Waiting for a jillion patrols to pass by is so slow

sweet topaz
#

especially cause the TT card are from accursed hoard

worthy shadow
#

Some floors have a sadistic amount

sweet topaz
#

so i gotta scour each floor just incase

#

and can't just open portal to next and go on

#

at least i think

#

i really don't know best way to farm those

worthy shadow
#

There are occasionally PF listings just for hoarde farming

#

Better snipe those when you can while working on things

sweet topaz
#

true

#

i at least have PT at +99

#

i still havent beaten floor 3 on EO :D

worthy shadow
#

It's a nice bit of story clearing the base floors

#

I like the response you can give the NPC

sweet topaz
#

i just need to set aside an afternoon and put up a pf for a clear run

cedar kernel
misty elbow
#

oh no
he ded

sand stirrup
#

Wondering if I should stay on the free trial til Evercold comes out

#

Instead of buying Complete and then being forced to get EC separately

cedar kernel
#

depends on if you finish shadowbringers until then

brisk helm
#

If you want

fleet willow
slate elk
#

You would be paying double

fleet willow
#

cause its only 7 till evercold

slate elk
#

If you get dt now

#

You gotta pay for ec again

sand stirrup
slate elk
#

Ec will have dt

fleet willow
sand stirrup
#

I've never played an MMO before so this price structure seems awful

brisk helm
#

You're just unlucky timing wise

slate elk
#

Its been there since 2013

sand stirrup
#

It's be nice to join an FC so I have people to socialize with and maybe do Eureka and other trickier content with

brisk helm
#

It's what, 30 euro every 2 and a half years

misty elbow
#

God I pray I get Darkness done tonight

fleet willow
#

so add that on, on top of the price for the expansion

brisk helm
slate elk
#

Sub for the time you play

#

If you sub for 6 months and play like 20 days

#

Then thats on you

sand stirrup
#

Unrelated: I don't care how many people the guild sends, I am not doing these damn leve quests

brisk helm
#

If you can't comfortably pay a sub a paid mmo isn't really for you

#

Also you don't have to continuously sub

heady spindle
slate elk
#

I sub for once a month only since I am not sure if i will play it beyond it and if i do i sub back

fleet willow
#

ngl the only thing i hate about ff14, is once you buy a sub, if you stop, you dont just revert to the free trial like say swtor where if you stop you get preferred status and still keep playing for free

slate elk
#

If not then its a break

sand stirrup
brisk helm
slate elk
#

Turn those off

brisk helm
#

Xiv wants you to pay

slate elk
#

You can turn of those recommendation

kindred kettle
brisk helm
#

Xiv is not interested in offering a free version

slate elk
#

When you login

#

Free trial is there for that only

#

Play however much you want

#

No limits

rocky hazel
#

it's how a game stays alive and active for so long

slate elk
#

Its a decent compromise

signal hill
#

If they did that I'd probably hole up in the inn room and play around with glams, and probably not pay as much as I have to

rocky hazel
#

and doesnt have pay to win stuff

signal hill
#

I'm already doing that now with my FT alt and plogons

misty elbow
#

Yay I made it to Patch 2.3

#

Still so fucking long to go though ;_;

velvet jolt
#

sure you get to play for free but the game's gonna wave a donation bowl in your face every chance it gets

heady spindle
#

when it comes to mmos, there's a few options that companies can go for their way of making money

#

f2p with a cosmetic store that is often times aggresively pushed onto the player and typically decently pricey

#

or sub based

sand stirrup
velvet jolt
#

noooo no no

heady spindle
#

doesn't help that 14 was created in the era when pretty much every mmo was a sub based one

misty elbow
velvet jolt
#

even with gacha stuff you can usually avoid paying for the most part

heady spindle
#

you have some out there that are a bit of a mix, like swtor and eso that are f2p with optional subs or gw2 which has a f2p base game but expansions are paid

signal hill
#

It's been a good long while since I last played maplestory

#

But I remember the cash shop was always in your face, bots advertising RMT, etc

velvet jolt
#

the games i've played in the past you barely had to interface with it

heady spindle
#

at the end of the day, company has to make money to keep the servers going ya know

signal hill
#

basically the game is just a storefront with a few bells and whistles

heady spindle
#

14 being a buy the game and sub based means that a lot of the more aggressive micro transcations are kept relatively low

sand stirrup
#

Actually remembering FFXIV isn't my first MMO. I remember playing something called Eden Eternal back in like 2010

signal hill
#

Hardly any "game" because of autobattle and shite

heady spindle
#

not to say that 14 doesn't have any, but generally they're not in your face

#

or really needed

rocky hazel
#

my new magic book has a face on it

brisk helm
#

They never advertise the cash shop in game and the only link to it is via dream fitting

#

Which is imo a good choice

brisk helm
bitter tiger
#

give yoshi p and his team the elixir of youth

misty elbow
#

Like come on bungie ;_;

rocky hazel
#

looks like the domino dude in mario

velvet jolt
#

thwomp?

misty elbow
#

Ah yes a Whomp

velvet jolt
#

oh whomp

misty elbow
#

Thwomp are the ones that levitate

rocky hazel
#

whomp whomp

misty elbow
#

Loads Shotgun

Wheres that fuckin Orca

sand stirrup
#

Question: do they ever stop doing these silly quest objectives where they're like "you should express my *DOUBT* to him!" and it's like "I get what you're asking for but this feels braindead"

molten vine
#

Book with dragon wings

heady spindle
#

the /emote required quests aren't terribly common

molten vine
#

Peak design ngl

heady spindle
#

but they do still happen

chilly ridge
sand stirrup
#

I wish there were more emotes tbh

Why can I not curtsey

cedar kernel
#

you can unlock more

molten vine
#

The worst i found was SHB

heady spindle
#

There's more oyu can unlock

chilly ridge
sand stirrup
#

No I mean

molten vine
#

Wdym i have to use SAY CHAT and type

#

😭

sand stirrup
#

I looked online and I can't find a curtsey emote

chilly ridge
signal hill
molten vine
heady spindle
#

idk why people are fussed about say chat stuff

#

esp if you're a keyboard and mouse user

#

COPY AND PASTE THE PHRASE

chilly ridge
molten vine
#

Exactly

signal hill
#

I find it fun to build a sentence around the phrase

rocky hazel
heady spindle
#

copy and paste

molten vine
#

Others can see it is the problem

heady spindle
#

never fear failing in chat again

molten vine
cedar kernel
#

your god is come

molten vine
echo mango
signal hill
rocky hazel
sand stirrup
rocky hazel
#

Is that from a cast or the book

cedar kernel
#

thats a book

echo mango
#

understandable 😌

molten vine
#

Book
When you unsheathe it

rocky hazel
#

Oooh

supple kettle
#

hello blounge

molten vine
#

It will automatically reveal wing

#

Also its the easiest relic to get imo if not counting endwalker

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sweet topaz
supple kettle
#

kibby!

sand stirrup
#

Geez the ARR story is rather dark huh

#

Well, at parts

supple kettle
#

That's eorzea for ya

sand stirrup
#

This Scholar hat looks so dumb in cutscenes lmao

misty elbow
#

Yup Limsa Lominsa

cedar kernel
misty elbow
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lemme guess, you're the middle

cedar kernel
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wht

misty elbow
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Oh I thought each person has a point system for catches and you were the on in the middle

cedar kernel
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no those are my last 3 catches from spectral

misty elbow
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A

cedar kernel
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yeah theres a leaderboard at the end of the boat

sand stirrup
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Oh I just had a horrible experience

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Went into aurum vale for the first time, and I didn't know what was happening, and the tank kept dying and people said I could be a bot and I turned off the game in a panic

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Oh I feel like a real piece of shit for that

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I can't communicate, I don't have a keyboard...

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I apologized a bunch before getting too embarrassed

cedar kernel
misty elbow
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Noku?

brisk helm
sand stirrup
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Then they ran off and left me behind while I was still slowed and paralyzed and etc etc

brisk helm
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What hit you to make you slowed?

sand stirrup
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First boss

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I was panicked

brisk helm
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That one has a slow?

sand stirrup
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Well I mean

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I was moving very slowly

misty elbow
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to my knowledge I swear I haven't done Aurum Vale

brisk helm
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I don't remember there being anything of the kind

coral bay
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The only slow should be the Morbols in there

molten vine
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AV room 1 is

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Idk how it is now