#retired-patch-6-3-discussion

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weary monolith
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does ur rank decay if u reach crystal and stop playing

glossy hemlock
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No

eager rover
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so like what do we do if theres only one participant in the lottery but no one wins/

eager rover
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rip

wind bough
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it's bugged, SE seems to have fucked up bigtime

eager rover
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yeahh rip

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my fc was the only bid

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so yeah :<

vital brook
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Can't wait for the actual Nophica to show up snael

glossy hemlock
vital brook
glossy hemlock
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Some real dobanhonkaroos

vital brook
rugged pond
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Here's to hoping that the reaper is escaped Zenos, and this time we get to become friends with him, and confess to him, and make Graha jealous with him.

glossy hemlock
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No please

rugged pond
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Yes please, you know you want to

crystal arrow
livid oracle
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these are so good, and pretty much the only reason I bother with the dailies/weeklies for hunting marks

wet summit
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blah blah blah something something housing bad no work blah blah

iron birch
old rain
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Oh yeah I heard about that

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Even if you’re the only person bidding on a house you can just

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Not get it if you get a 0

vagrant kayak
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It just happened to my FC, we rolled a 0 when we were the only participants on the bid. lol :c

quasi zodiac
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humble heron
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Bellular says a lot of things

crystal arrow
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bellular doesn't know any better than we do lol

wet summit
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Isn't that the guy who calls any content he plays amazing

warm moth
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Better than calling everything terrible I guess 🤷‍♂️

wet summit
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True

warped hull
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Does anyone else feel like 6.1 is just a really really buggy patch?

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Like, I don't think I ever experienced a patch as buggy as 6.1

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Bugs includes...

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BRD's WM don't work if you have another BRD

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WHM's DoT doesn't do more damage but costs more MP when upgraded

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WHM's Cure 2 can be spammed in PVP

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The housing rolls a critical 0!

stiff charm
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if 2 design oopsies and 2 actual bugs is really really buggy for this game then we are still above like 90% of patch releases lmao

warped hull
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hmmm... maybe I'm just too spoiled

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But I feel like all the other patches I experienced was less buggy

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6.0, 5.5, 5.4, etc.

stiff charm
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well yeah they were but im just saying compared to basically any game out there this is nothing

warped hull
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That's true

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Granted, those bugs are not as severe as like, Rahbaun Savage

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But I just feel like those bugs are ones that shouldn't fly under the radar during QA

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Where Rahbaun Savage I understand because it's hard to test that

sour perch
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yeah absolutely akira

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the biggest one has to be the housing though

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i think people are going to go ballistic when the community picks up what's going on

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many people are already very unhappy

radiant marsh
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I think the housing changes were never going to make the majority of players happy regardless of bugs. Getting a house went from possible but tedious to impossible for the majority of players because the core issue of availability just got worse

next swan
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just found this meme and im in tears wtf is wrong with me

thorn ledge
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I do wonder why people might be unhappy

radiant marsh
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On our server a single FC owns 15 houses in a ward ¯_(ツ)_/¯

next swan
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i heard of FCs just owning entire wards and shit through alts

shits mad annoying

thorn ledge
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I meant on the Ishgard housing where the FC could only win one

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that just released

radiant marsh
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I don't think limiting housing to FCs for now is that bad considering how important it is for FC buffs and so on

brisk quail
thorn ledge
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18 wards for FC's only on every housing area is like 5000+ FC only spots

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what server has more than 5000 active FCs that care about houses?

sour perch
thorn ledge
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5 housing areas x 18 districts x 60 houses per district = 5400 FC only houses

bronze brook
turbid helm
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FC-only wards should've had way more medium sized plots becasue most of the 1-18 wards are barren

radiant marsh
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They will realize that soon and make the wards available to everyone I bet

thorn ledge
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Hopefully, it's just so bizarre that someone thought this was a good idea

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Oceania housing opened with this system, it was locked before it

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they started with 5400 FC only houses per server, with only scraps available for the players yoshifacepalm

turbid helm
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SE's incompetence with the housing market is always a hoot

thorn ledge
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I would like to see the meeting where someone presented this as a good idea and everyone went with it

radiant marsh
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I absolutely think there's just some complete spaghetti code in the background because of the rushed development of 2.0 and Yoshi P is afraid that something about it could literally break the game

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I saw the fear in his eyes when someone suggested just adding a glam dresser to player apartments

thorn ledge
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It's hard to see how that could be relevant to the FC / player split, if there was such they could've just kept them shared at least

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I can't help but to think they somehow accidentally swapped them, with 25% being intended to be FC only and 75% player only

turbid helm
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the swap would've definitely made more sense

hoary ether
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With YoshiP's post, does this mean that the current results are going to be re-drawn before the next cycle begins, or are they only taking extra time to resolve the issue

humble heron
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taking extra time at the very least

hoary ether
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Just trying to confirm whether my FC needs to re-bid or refrain from taking the refund

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We got the No Entrants bug

turbid helm
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your plot was won by #0 yeah?

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ah

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might wanna wait it out then

paper dove
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6.1 Discussion eh..... RIP SAM Kaiten. 😦

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was just starting to main SAM and continueing through msq

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then im like..... 😠 ME NINJA MAIN NOW

stark palm
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question guys: so I lost the lottery (oh boohoo) but I can't get my gil back, the instruction says I need to click on the placard, but the land was already reclaimed and clicking the placard doesn't do anything
has this been reported? or I'm the buggy one

paper dove
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how much gil did you deposit

stark palm
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I'm broke af so 3mil

opal yacht
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Wait the housing glitch can make you lose your money? 0_0

deft burrow
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this is the best thing we have ever gotten

mint notch
obtuse trout
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6.2 can't come soon enough AA_Menhera_Hyped

turbid helm
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you'd better be tabbed out

mint notch
thorny flax
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ok almost diamond

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in pvp

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I don't like that rating isn't job locked

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I had so many people ruining matches because they played an entire new job

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brisk quail
gaunt star
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yeap

orchid slate
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Ugh, I'm stuck in Silver hell in CC, I dont know if I can keep doing this.

weary monolith
orchid slate
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Wait, there's no decay?! Wtf

weary monolith
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no

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points just keep going up in crystal

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thats how u stay in the top 100

orchid slate
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Oh thats so nice

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My favorite thing about CC are the name plates. Got a match that made my team look like the villains.

livid oracle
somber storm
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He hasn't even reach EW

livid oracle
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oof

crystal arrow
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he claims he quit

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at the least he's not streaming it anymore

humble heron
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He said recently hes planning to come back soonish

orchid slate
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Is it true that they said they won't be doing another Bozja/Eureka-like zone and instead it'll be a new Deep Dungeon?

pulsar current
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currently we're on track to receive both this expac

robust plover
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Took 2 months off.. come back and they overhaul Living Dead and make it actually good.

gaunt star
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Wowww the music in the new AR O_O i just finished it now

weary monolith
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i zoomed past gold

orchid slate
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Very nice!

turbid helm
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do you get more series xp in ranked matches?

dry widget
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Hi friends, I wanted to know what is the size of 6.1 patch ? I am currently on 4g and data limited :S

dry widget
iron birch
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The he quit is a joke

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Also he was talking of returning at the end of the month, but eh, we'll see

deft burrow
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No that's a meme

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He's making fun of the fact that people claim he quit cause he hasn't played in a couple months

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He said that we should expect him to come back to FFXIV by the end of April

iron birch
deft burrow
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So who knows

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Yeaaa

iron birch
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I was just posting said meme

deft burrow
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Saw that after

iron birch
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Also he still reacts to FFXIV related stuff and yadda yadda

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I fear for the mods here when he returns to streaming

hollow ice
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but did you hear that asmongold leaving FFXIV was a meme?

glossy hemlock
tropic frigate
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I thought him returning was a joke tbh cuz i think he put on animal ears while on r/place and i recall it was like the beginning of april

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Never checked if it was

surreal sky
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its gonna be so dramatic when he returns, he just wanted to wait several months before returning

cloud python
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Whats the enrage time for the new EX trial ?

slate ridge
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I thought that was the case

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Asmom passed away and asmon took some time to mourn her

deft burrow
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Then Lost Ark came out so he's playing that

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Cause its a new thing

mint sail
pulsar current
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cant forget elden ring too

mint sail
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iirc it's after the 3rd fatalism cast

deft burrow
mint sail
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I guess it's somewhere less than 10 mins

lapis yoke
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I thought I heard him say within that he grew annoyed with the combat of fxxiv

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and lost ark was more engaging within it's combat design

pulsar current
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would be the first ive heard of it

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but also he left off at lvl 60

lapis yoke
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well I can tell this raid series is gonna be super fun

lean adder
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So whats the issue with housing?

eternal sail
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Short version. 0 was included in the ticket numbers.

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First person to buy was 1.

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So the results could land on zero for the lottery and the game thinks. Aw mate no bidders.

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Heres your refund.

tropic frigate
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i think even some with bidders it would just say none had bid

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as well

eternal sail
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I wanna say spaghetti code.

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Since it was designed to say that if there were no bidders. So 0.

lapis yoke
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nah I think it was just oversight in the coding for the system

eternal sail
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Either way. It way sucks and i feel for people SCAAA

lapis yoke
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more time to get money for me

lean adder
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So if you solo bid on a house you could still lose

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Slow clap*

eternal sail
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50/50

lean adder
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Well, could have been way worse

lapis yoke
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the house wins itself

lean adder
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And the only reason it's a fiasco now is due to all the new wards In empurium

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Had the change been done before the new wards it wouldnt have been as bad.

eternal sail
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Methinks they should have implemented it before the unlock.

lapis yoke
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it's hard to test something on a larger scale in a closed environment

eternal sail
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Although. Being probability. It may have still not been discovered yet

lean adder
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It is, or multiple envrionments

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Dev client may not expressed the issue but live did

lapis yoke
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realistically they probly looked at how the cactpot worked

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and tried applying it a different way

eternal sail
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I was on the forums which. Ugh. Never go on the forums.

lean adder
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Lot of rng code uses 0 as a start

eternal sail
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They were discussing overflow in code?

lean adder
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Naw if you dice roll in most software language being as simple as possible it rolls 0 to 5

eternal sail
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Lots of them were saying they just took the /dice command.

lean adder
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This is okayish as long as you use the value of 0 to do something

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But if you dont, the rest of the program is going to likely assume null/no value/do nothing

eternal sail
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Either way. Im terrified im gonna lose my house.

lean adder
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The only real way to apologize for this

lapis yoke
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you shouldn't, they made the time indefinite until they fix it

tropic frigate
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do u have ur house rn?

lean adder
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Is more housing wards

eternal sail
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Yeah.

tropic frigate
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you should be able to keep it then

eternal sail
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Thank god ;_;

lapis yoke
eternal sail
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I saved up for like. A year to buy a large.

lapis yoke
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that is way too many

tropic frigate
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i dont see why they'd take away ones that worked

eternal sail
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And i finally got it.

tropic frigate
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especially if they cant refund gil

lapis yoke
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what was the number? around 800 private estates and 2k fc plots?

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when realistically it should be the opposite

eternal sail
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I guess that means i have a hope of getting an fc plot. KEKW

lean adder
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I do hope with the item engine rework they mentioned some months back will mayhaps help with this issue.

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Items in ffxiv are a bit data heavy

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And super sensitive

eternal sail
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I do wonder when we are getting an update on this issue. I feel so bad for some people who got 0 on a large.

lean adder
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Jpn doesn't exactly celebrate easter

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So likely soon as they think of a way to apologize

lapis yoke
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I mean neither does the vast majority of the West unless you're part of the Catholic faith

lean adder
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Well jpn celebrates it the same way they do Halloween, the consumerism version of it

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So eggs and bunnies in marketing rolled up as a smaller slice of spring decorations but sukura is by far the more massive slice of the spring holiday pie

eternal sail
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Tbh the sakura stuff is always gorgeous.

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Its better then getting a couple stuffies or a poster.

lean adder
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I never managed to see any of the festivals, everytime it came up and I was on shore duty some jerk would do something bad and lock the base down.

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The misawa snow festival I also wanted to goto

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Same issue.

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But yeah likely they'll admitted they goofed and apologize at least. As for 'repair' of lost faith... it's going to be a tough cookie

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As is now they cant add new houses in a whim

regal lantern
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Ik this won’t happen but i wish the game could add more starting cities or add to existing starting cities including lore and quests

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I miss those starter ARR content when things were really simple and just good V evil

hollow ice
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I mean we get plenty of that regularly

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the new lore and quests that is

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not all of it is direct

bright osprey
wind bough
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Most Christian denominations celebrate Easter.

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It’s kind of the most important festival…

somber storm
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Which is now commercialised into coloured eggs, rabbits and chocolate

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So get your post holiday cheap chocolates

snow arrow
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by golly will i let commercialization fill the void in me

worthy peak
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Isn't rabbits like american thing? Im catolic from central europe and have no idea what rabbits has to do with easter tbh

snow arrow
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wiki says German Lutherans

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so yea bunny is heretic

worthy peak
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I mean, It wasnt my point, just never understood that part

late aurora
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The idea of an egg-giving hare went to the U.S. in the 18th century. Protestant German immigrants in the Pennsylvania Dutch area told their children about the "Osterhase"

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It was a hare, which transitioned to a bunny over the years

pulsar current
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wait those are different>

snow arrow
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hares and eggs are both symbols of fertility, so why not both, said the Lutherans

tidal mauve
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yeah easter is a product of christianity adjusting itself in order to absorb other religions

mint notch
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Alliance Raid boss 4's ost is so good

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frfr on god

obtuse trout
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In the balance >>>

fresh maple
short edge
dawn basin
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I just thought of something

If this patch is hinting at ||the 13th shard being the new location for 7.0||

What if we could get ||Cylva/Unukalhai as new trust members?||

||Cylva as a Dark knight, Unuk as a White/Black Mage||

somber storm
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Well ||Cylva has been out of the adventuring game for years so she has to retrain herself to fight||

late aurora
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“Oh thank goodness you got the flashback just from me in the outfit, because there’s no way I was gonna fight in that thing” - ||cylva||

somber storm
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Years of tavern wenching made her weak

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Literally she hasn't fought in years

iron birch
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Both are unfit for fighting

wind bough
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It’s almost like it’s the whole point of Christianity omegalul

prisma vine
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walks into the lore chat. looks around. walks out of the Lord chat

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lmao

gaunt star
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||So what kind of deity is the Opo-Opo you guys think?||

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||If Byergot and Rhalgr have animal forms, who’s tied to the monkey?||

wind bough
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Everyone thinks Oschon

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If the fights continues to follow the elemental cycle order then he will be the last boss of the final raid too

gaunt star
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Cause he’s the last on the wheel or something? Set up the final boss by having them be a companion?

wind bough
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And because he’s the wanderer.

gaunt star
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LAWL literally the same post

gaunt star
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Yet we still don’t- hold on a second

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||You think the Twelve are dynamis born gods?||

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||They function completely different than to primals||

grizzled idol
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Probably spoiler this stuff? Or is this channel free for all?

gaunt star
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Oh fk forgot about lore spoiler channel

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Sorry!

grizzled idol
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O fuck

humble heron
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As far as im aware this channel is technically ffa

grizzled idol
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I'm sorry wrong person

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It does say spoilers are enforced in pins

humble heron
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Ah i see

orchid slate
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wet crown
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Thordan weapons

(X) of the Round

unreal delta
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||anyone else thinking The Twelve are Auspices?|| minor alliance raid spoiler

crystal arrow
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eh

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maybe but there's very little evidence for that

unreal delta
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...are...

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are you sure?

crystal arrow
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yes?

unreal delta
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they fit the bill

crystal arrow
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not really.

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besides ||turning into animals, which is something that happens to us in ew msq||

unreal delta
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how WOULDNT they fill the bill of an auspice

wet crown
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For now, I'll just assume they've been created by Hydaelyn like the Loporitts.

crystal arrow
crystal arrow
unreal delta
orchid slate
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Them being auspices would be far to anticlimatic for something that's been a mystery since the inception of FFXIV and them being created by Hydaelyn seems off as well. I'm more on the fence of them being entirely new entities or something akin to what Sen is saying that Venat raised them or something or another.

humble heron
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I still think my idea that they are aliens makes sense

unreal delta
orchid slate
humble heron
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i mean know that we know there were other alien races confirmed thanks to endwalker

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theres no reason to say the twelve werent running from the final days

orchid slate
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Don't forget, the Source has the highest amount of energy of different types in, what we assume barren universe/cosmos going by what little Meaton found.

crystal arrow
unreal delta
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what other godlike things have we seen?

crystal arrow
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lucavi, omega, middy, meteion, hades, eden, innocence, cloud of darkness, voidsent in general,

orchid slate
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Diablos

wind bough
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Ultima

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It’s all gods

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Attack and dethrone god: the game

crystal arrow
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not to mention, the twelve could be lying

unreal delta
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hm

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I mean all of which have either been unsundered beings, aliens, or voidsent

orchid slate
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That's true too, they could still be bullshitting us and could easily just be some sort of Allagen VR Game :v

unreal delta
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(innocence is just voidsent but in reverse anyways)

orchid slate
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Remember god-like doesn't mean they're gods it means that they have the capacity, strength, abilities of gods or faux gods.

unreal delta
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either auspices or unsundered beings possibly

stiff charm
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personally i thinkits pretty clear they are stewards of the star created by hydaelyn to check up on us and make sure we dont fuck up after shes gone

unreal delta
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thats also very possible but

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im not inclined to think so

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because of their policy for non intervention

granite nimbus
crystal arrow
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lucavi are not aliens

unreal delta
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the fuck are lucavi

crystal arrow
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and regardless that point is moot

unreal delta
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something from eureka i assume?

granite nimbus
unreal delta
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ah-

granite nimbus
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People transformed into hideous monsters from being exposed to the auracite created by Ultima.

primal basalt
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also, not that ultima

crystal arrow
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Oh yeah right, the weapons too, those are godlike beings that don't consume aether from their surroundings

granite nimbus
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Ultima, the High Seraph is an alien/primal hybrid.

unreal delta
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IM gonna be honest I skipped ivalice raid lore because there was so...so much dialogue...

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i just wanted to raid...

granite nimbus
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And Sen is right, the artificial auracite used by the Ruby and Emerald weapons could warp the environment to the user's advantage.

unreal delta
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true, but i severely doubt theyre magitek

stiff charm
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auracite can do that whether its artificial or not

crystal arrow
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regardless

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there's plenty of possibilities that don't involve them being auspices.

unreal delta
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I also doubt Lucavi because as you said, they were monsters, I assume corrupted. and given the Twelve's benevolent nature I doubt theyre Lucavi

crystal arrow
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that feels like the most out there theory, at this point

unreal delta
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eh

crystal arrow
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occam's razor, they were made by hydaelyn. probably after venat's circle.

unreal delta
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I dont think its too out of the question?

crystal arrow
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which consisted of 12 other ancients.

unreal delta
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the fact there were 12 ancients who followed Hydaelyn after is very

rotund valve
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Ok is azeymas voice actor the same as Venats? Im 99% it is but i might be wrong (talking about english)

austere bear
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Emet knows them too so I assume the ascians left them be for some reason.

stable musk
sage flame
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Did they got rid of the 5 command missions at GC to get Captain RANK?

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I just hit Captain rank without command missions

strange wing
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What's the general consensus on 6.1 anyway? I like it pretty hard, but I'm permanently homeless

primal basalt
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sam people are salt about sam

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housing people are salt about housing

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reasonable people say it’s great

next quarry
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I liked the story, alliance raid was nice and the changes to PvP are positive

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Housing issue is a bummer and I dont really miss Kaiten

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goodbye

strange wing
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That's reasonable

thorny flax
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best .1 patch so far

sage flame
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I don't have anything to salt on 6.1 to be honest. Just some minor bugs with UI.

strange wing
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The kaiten koncerns are valid, but people caring about Cone AoEs are being silly

next quarry
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the tenka change was to be expected after the other aoe change in sam's kit in 6.0

opaque mango
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Felt the story was underwhelming tbh, I get it is setting up future stuff, but..didnt excite me

sage flame
onyx sundial
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6.1: good story, dungeon, alliance raid, pvp saved, housing oops

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Housing issues and job changes were generally bad for some like Nin and Sam

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But saved by pvp

opaque mango
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"There is a thing! We are gonna go into the thing!" roll credits

onyx sundial
strange wing
sage flame
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Developers are humans, humans make mistake.

onyx sundial
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Nah

sage flame
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Only time we don't make mistakes, as if we are dead.

primal basalt
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every .4 patch maybe

onyx sundial
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Other .1 patches lead into the second ending of the expansion

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This one has nothing to start off of.

hazy apex
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How good is xp from duty support dungeons?

next quarry
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same as doing them in DF

hazy apex
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Nice

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So dps levelling this is prefferable

next quarry
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ya

hazy apex
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since queue times and all that

opaque mango
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Just would like something unexpected. Like I dunno, Rauhban gets salty and nukes Limsa or something.

strange wing
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After leveling all my ARR Dps they do this to me

next quarry
#

||Golbez was unexpected||

#

tbh

opaque mango
#

Dont know who that is so was a 'whatev' from me

thorny flax
#

I love the new pvp glamours. finally male dancer can get the red set without the blue part

onyx sundial
#

||golbez and reaperzenoz||

opaque mango
#

"Another spooky armored guy zzzzzzzz"

strange wing
#

I understand

#

But you're wrong

onyx sundial
#

Time to save ||another shard||

opaque mango
#

Trying not to sound bishy but just would like something unpredictable

strange wing
#

Random nuking is why wow is the way it is

primal basalt
#

burn da tree

opaque mango
#

Just an example, but no one would expect it. That's my point.

next quarry
#

im surprised they told us as much as they have about the antagonists

#

honestly thought it would be much slower

onyx sundial
#

||nobody expected voidzenos though tbh||

opaque mango
#

Not a supprise though

next quarry
#

||not this early at least||

strange wing
#

Y'shtola having a character was surprising

next quarry
#

I hope they keep that up

onyx sundial
#

I thought yshtola ||being cute was too much in one patch that it feels forced||

opaque mango
#

Nanamo rolling up in a garlean mech ranting about 'purging' the monetarists would be a supprise and change of pace from 'save a shard' and 'oh no return of xyz we have seen 10 times already'

strange wing
onyx sundial
opaque mango
#

Dont put that curse on Yshtola

strange wing
#

I'm okay with it cause since I met her in Norsea she hasn't changed one bit aside from the eye thing

#

Least developed scion

opaque mango
#

She is one of the only scions that from the start has more or less had her shit together and hasnt need a development arc to unfk character flaws

strange wing
#

It's just weird how in EW they had to remember that's she's on a "quest for knowledge" that hasn't been mentioned since probably 1.0

onyx sundial
#

I hate yshtola

opaque mango
#

Fair, I hate graha.

hollow ice
#

but dont forget

#

Graha will never hate you

ionic flicker
#

Do you know how to provoke the twelve?

#

Call them primals or summons :v

opaque mango
#

Eikons

ionic flicker
#

On a serious note though

#

Did they say which patch the new Omega questline will be in?

strange wing
#

Next week I bet

primal basalt
#

6.15

#

with all the other stuff that isn’t raids

ionic flicker
#

In the site they said 6.1x series despite already stating the quests in 6.15

#

Which made me confused really

hazy apex
#

I wish i could analyse my limit break as machinist]

low nexus
#

people queueing frontline with 4 scholars

#

thats just not ok

lapis yoke
#

les goooo

frail seal
#

any pvp tips? trying to understand the rules

warped root
#

Do objectives

orchid slate
#

I'm still stuck on Silver 3, my team member's are always new Bronze players and we're constantly losing. facepalm

lean ore
#

i hit B1 and now im about to hit b3 again

rain onyx
#

Hmm, I guess I should do at least enough games to get to bronze

#

Get that pity reward

astral trout
#

Gold my ass going afk

rain onyx
#

Lmao there’s a silver 3 in this all bronze game

mild apex
#

Hey guys! So does anyone know what the usual release is for the MSQ? Like after this section here do we need to wait till 6.2 for more or? 😃 #Nonspoilers

rain onyx
#

And major patches are 4 months apart from each other

#

So 6.2 is expected in August

strange wing
#

Welcome to the MSQ waiting room

#

Where giant cliffhangers aren't resolved for several months

chilly bluff
#

God the 2.55 to 3.0 wait was excruciating

wet crown
#

4.56 to 5.0 and 5.2 to 5.3 were also awful

normal helm
#

were these the only 2 styles added for viera in 6.1?

tranquil fable
#

I still need that outfit to the left.

normal helm
#

these two tops in the photo are ironically probably my most used ahaha

normal helm
lean ore
lean ore
#

xD

pearl tangle
#

i don't have pvp brain atm lol

#

i'm doing diadem but then i'll work on it

lean ore
#

see pvp brain still there

pearl tangle
#

nah

#

right now it's gathering brain ASevil

lean ore
pearl tangle
#

need more items ASevil

lean ore
#

lol

pearl tangle
#

still 2 hours to go

rain onyx
#

God, even going from Unranked to Bronze feels like fucking torture. Yeah I’m not doing anymore ranked once I hit bronze

#

Why am I being put in games with multiple silvers

lean ore
#

silver doesnt matter much

#

most of the time ull lose cause of ur team xd

wet crown
#

Because matchmaking is still in its infancy. And either you are good enough or they are bad enough to be in your games

rain onyx
#

Ehh whatever, ranked is basically a coin flip

lean ore
#

i was 1 win away from Silver, then i lost 4-5 matches back to back cause ppl cant do the basics vierasip

pearl tangle
rain onyx
#

Lmao

pearl tangle
#

so gold 1 can get bronze at the lowest or diamond as highest since crystal is seperate

rain onyx
#

Thankfully I only need one more ranked before I go back to casual mode

pearl tangle
#

?

reef yacht
#

viera got several new default hairstyles

rain onyx
#

Well from what I can tell, at least with unranked, is that matches don’t get me more exp

#

So why not just do unranked

reef yacht
#

and the unlockable rainmaker hairstyle from MGP, too

lean ore
#

i thought he meant for this patch lol

reef yacht
#

the upcoming lyse hairstyle on mogstation is also usable by viera

normal helm
#

ohh nice!

reef yacht
#

those are this patch

lean ore
#

worry

pearl tangle
normal helm
#

im assuming the lyse set will be female only?

lean ore
#

oh they add lyse's hair 🤔 time to go broke

#

ye

reef yacht
#

yeah

lean ore
#

its an NPC outfit

normal helm
reef yacht
#

underlined is the 3 default hairstyles viera got, unlockable ones not shown

normal helm
#

oh nice! did males just get the fluffy one for now then?

#

I've been fantasia'd away from my bunn since a bit before patch lol

reef yacht
#

I haven't kept track much of male hairstyles tbh

#

somebody else probably knows better

crystal arrow
#

think that one is males only

#

but both genders got rainmaker and both ways

quasi zodiac
#

We never did learn the fate of these TWELVE people, did we?

#

The TWELVE people from the pro Hydaelyn gang

neon minnow
#

well they might be the twelve

#

||they said they aint primals but never said they aint ELDER primals like hydaelyn||

lean ore
#

primals are primals regardless of "elder" or not

rain onyx
#

Elder basically just means “yeah these are super duper strong compared to the rest”

lean ore
#

yeah

rain onyx
#

I can’t remember if they use the label for Hydaelyn/Zodiark, but it was mainly used for Odin/Bahamut/Alexander

lean ore
#

elder?

rain onyx
#

Yeah

lean ore
#

Hydaelyn reffered to herself as supreme deity xD

#

tho idk if thats similar to Elder

rain onyx
#

So self-entitled

lean ore
#

to be fair i consider endsinger and zodiark the same

desert basin
#

What if the twelve is just unsundered ancient but on Hydailn side? vivsmug

humble heron
#

What if the twelve are just people on the dev team and its been an extremely elaborate meta joke for 10+ years

orchid slate
#

Whats the new glow craft weapons called?

#

Anyone know by chance?

crystal arrow
#

? do you mean susano's rapturous [x]

orchid slate
#

Nah there are new craftables that glow blue I think?

#

I have an image hang on

last perch
late aurora
#

So susano's rapturous [x]

orchid slate
#

This is a JP translation so I have no idea if they're accurate

late aurora
#

Those aren’t new

#

Those are the thordan weapons, X of the round

orchid slate
#

Huh never knew!

astral trout
sage flame
#

How do you get knight weapons? The trial is not out yet right?

granite nimbus
#

They've all been added to the Crafting Log!

late aurora
#

The ultimate weapons aren’t out

granite nimbus
#

We don't have Dragonsong Ultimate weapons yet though.

#

These are the "of the Round" weapons.

sage flame
#

Oh lol I guess I got confused

livid oracle
#

Did hydaelyn even need anyone besides our Bestie to summon her?

hollow ice
#

cuz it was half of what was left after zodiark was summoned

sage flame
#

First time ran 6.1 Praetorium changes, did they took out the ending of Ultima fight?

late aurora
#

The Ultima weapon part is a separate trial

sage flame
#

The Porta Decumana right?

#

That used to be with the Main Scenario?

ancient panther
#

It used to be part of Praetorium

#

It's still part of main scenario roulette

#

Both phases of the Ultima weapon encounter are what make up Porta Decumena

sage flame
#

Nice, I wonder how the main MSQ flow is now.

ancient panther
#

The encounter with Lahabrea was removed from the party duties and is a solo quest battle now

rain onyx
#

Same thing with cape westwind

sage flame
#

That solo quest is like same solo with Zenos?

mint sail
#

(is it?)

sage flame
#

Prae ended right after defeating Gaius in 6.1 - That what prompt my question earlier.

ancient panther
#

Castrum Meridianum was also significantly changed, no more exploding pipes, escorting Cid around is significantly shorter, no more giant boss battle & no more playing with mortars against Livia

mint sail
#

"damn it, that colossus is enhanced! hold on - i'll try to think of something"

sage flame
#

It's nice changes

mint sail
ancient panther
sage flame
#

I was about to put up another TV shows for Main roulette xD

ancient panther
#

Although it was nice to do as a PLD if you could time the stuns right

mint sail
#

I keep forgetting the HP breakpoints to stun at

ancient panther
#

81 and 61 were the ones I always heard

mint sail
#

well now we can just not think about it anymore

ancient panther
#

yup it's nice

rain onyx
#

Nope

#

The memories will linger

ancient panther
#

Castrum only takes like 10 minutes now

rain onyx
#

And never go away

mint sail
#

but I haven't got meridianum in msq roulette

#

wait

#

Is meridianum in msq roulette

ancient panther
#

Yes

#

I got it for the first time since patch today

rain onyx
#

I’m still unwillingly hoarding information from 2.x jank

mint sail
#

right

ancient panther
#

There's almost no cutscenes

#

Just the one before livia

#

And like that's it

#

So it's super quick

rain onyx
#

Did you know that there were Thirty-Five types of glamour prisms? 5 for each crafter but Culinarian and each one for different item level ranges.

#

It murdered your inventory

ancient panther
#

I did know that

#

I'm glad I missed that lol

dim sigil
#

It's kind of cool in a way like when you look at cut content from a game and you wonder how it would have been if it was implemented that's kind of how it is with all prae and stuff now except we actually did live it.

orchid slate
#

I dont understand, why are people saying my Adventure Plate picture is scary looking?

somber storm
#

clowns are scary

narrow dragon
fluid basalt
#

wow crystalline conflict is actually fun o.o

deft burrow
#

amazing right

#

the unthinkable has happened

#

they made pvp good

fluid basalt
#

and i actually enjoyed feast during the firsat garo event

#

the best improvement is probably the shorter duration

young schooner
#

so just a thought on the new alliance raid

#

I've noticed that the bosses ||are all the members of the 12 that are more commonly associated with Ul'dah, with Ralgar being the sort of exception since he's more tied to Ala Migo but most of the refugees went to Ul'dah||

mint sail
#

They're encountered in their order in the pantheon

young schooner
#

so I was thinking that ||the next two raids would cover the patrons of Limsa Lomasa/Sharlyan and Gridania/Ishgard||

late aurora
mint sail
#

If they kept the current order, we'd see ||Nophica, Althyk, Halone and Menphina|| in that order

#

Llymlaen would be in the 3rd one

young schooner
#

and it would end with ||Oschon|| as the end

#

I do feel that ||Nophica or Althyk|| would be more fitting as end bosses for the raid series though

golden yew
mint sail
#

I'll just see how they reason out this ordering

chilly bluff
#

||Oschon is known as the Wanderer, so...||

late aurora
#

||Monke||

young schooner
#

true but ||Althyk|| gives off more of a "leader" vibe

late aurora
#

I’m just seeing that he’s a time keeper

young schooner
#

it's his depiction that matters as ||an austere emperor wielding a mythril greataxe||

late aurora
#

But you see, Oschon is an ||anime protag||

There are even stories that mention a curious Oschon sneaking a peek at a bathing Llymlaen, to which the goddess replies by throwing a knife at the peeping Wanderer.

young schooner
#

I see well that changes things

quaint pendant
#

Quick question, since 6.1 release, which one has high Dps in Pve between Bard and Mch ?

pulsar current
quaint pendant
#

Comp ? competition ?

pulsar current
#

party composition

quaint pendant
#

Ahh, okay noted. Bard give lots of buff

pulsar current
#

at higher end, better players can take more advantage of bards buffs

#

meanwhile in party finder or non top end players, mch doesnt give a fuck about what the rest of the party is doing for the most part

fluid basalt
#

so many different PVP currencies ;_;

agile needle
#

I just think it’s neat how the alliance raids takes us to heaven while the 8-man raids take us to hell

fluid basalt
#

panda is hell?

pulsar current
#

ye

#

why do you think its called "circles"

late aurora
#

Emperor of hell, castle’s called pandemonium

tranquil fable
#

Someone in Sharlayan was badly playing violin. That was torture.

wind bough
#

if they were badly playing that means they were actually doing it manually

#

at least they're honest and using their own effort uwucarby

lean ore
#

but it takes effort to setup BRD Music Player

granite nimbus
#

Yay!

winged lagoon
#

A winner is you

glossy hemlock
gaunt star
#

im definitely dipping out of pvp after i get my rewards

#

so fucking cancerous playing against tank with 2 healers with a 5dps team

pearl tangle
past light
#

the trio of terror

gaunt star
wind bough
#

I am the war uwucarby

past light
#

the first two are bad enough to deal with on their own but if there's a scholar too you're pretty much doomed to fail unless you also have that on your side

pearl tangle
wind bough
#

I do go down kinda fast sometimes

#

Gotta play smart uwucarby

#

War easier to kill than PLD DRK

#

No invuln just Lifesteal

pearl tangle
blazing edge
#

i wanna play CC

granite nimbus
#

Then run to the Wolves Den to unlock it and jump in.

#

Unless you're at work.

blazing edge
#

i am unsubbed uwucarby

#

and also at work

#

it looks fun

pearl tangle
#

it is fun but also suffering at the same time playdead

#

especially for doing ranked lol

#

i've been unlucky and after around 200 matches made diamond deeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeerp

#

cannot carry hard enough when people feed their souls to the enemies 😭

thorny flax
#

pvp will be better in future seasons. right now most people that play are completely new to pvp and absolutely terrible. you might still lose in future seasons and will get unlucky but you won't see dumb shit where people completely ignore a white mage or dps players that don't use limit break for the entire match

#

90% of the dps players I had in my groups were absolutely terrible. That's why I was so glad everytime I got a WAR, WHM, SGE party

#

because they are easier to play than most of the dps jobs

pearl tangle
#

plus with casual rewards being locked behind ranks it'll keep being this way 😭

thorny flax
#

It doesn't always help but I recommend trying to mark the enemies. I think that's why a lot of groups have problems in diamond and plat because it's where you can't faceroll most of the time

pearl tangle
#

i do that and i stil get morons haha it's just pure luck

thorny flax
#

what I can say is that from my experience so far it gets better in upper diamond/crystal. I had so far genuinely only great matches

pearl tangle
#

i mean the matches are fun/nail biting at times but the amount of bad players is just surprising even at the higher ranks

#

i'm in diamond now but man, idk how some people got here lmao

thorny flax
#

good rng. If you get the series buff and get only good groups due to rng even the worst player can reach plat

#

they should imo nerf it next season so you can only get the bonus once and then you have to win 3 matches again until you get the next bonus

winged lagoon
#

I can't even click on people half the time in PvP, everyone moves too fast

pearl tangle
pearl tangle
#

4 and 6 to cycle through them

#

also clicking on their name rather than them helps

winged lagoon
#

Numpad is all the way across the keyboard

thorny flax
#

I really hope they change WHM in PvP. It's weird that a healer that is supposed to be "THE" healer in pvp has so many strong dps options while also having op heals.

winged lagoon
#

Unless you meant function keys

thorny flax
#

I wish they would give SGE the WHM LB and WHM the SGE lb

pearl tangle
pearl tangle
#

otherwise the jobs seem pretty on par especially when you're against a good team

red talon
#

What exactly do the tethers during Nald'Thals add phase do? Some people don't seem to get tethered at all

pearl tangle
pastel flame
#

I think I have a problem.

pearl tangle
pastel flame
#

Seen 11 mounts

#

Lost 11 mounts.

modest blade
pastel flame
#

I'm just paying my karma

#

I got EX1 and 2 mount in the first week of Endwalker

#

After only seeing them drop once each

#

Won EX1 with a 23 roll 😄

modest blade
#

i think after the 45th run its just self inflicted since youre already over 99 totems

pastel flame
#

Oh yeah for sure

#

I could wait till 6.3....

modest blade
#

but uhh...may the next mount land in your hands...

pastel flame
#

But that's going to be around...

#

December/January I think

modest blade
#

prolly a little over if we continue at the slower paced schedule

#

but yeeeah

pastel flame
#

Yeah I was basically counting 4 months

#

For each patch

modest blade
#

91 runs in less than a week...im on my 7th clear and im already bored out of my mind of this fight

pastel flame
#

It's giving me a good opportunity to practice new WHM (imagine spending lilies and not feeling bad anymore!)

#

Ready for Ultii next week

humble heron
modest blade
#

oh yeah im practicing whm there too

pastel flame
#

The fight is probably more healing intensive than all of P1>4s

humble heron
#

It does nothing outside of just being a visual indicator

pastel flame
#

We skip most of the healing bits on the raid now 😄

modest blade
#

not ready for ulti, havemt even touched this tier of savage

modest blade
pastel flame
#

Never know until you give it a shot!

#

Honestly my reclears this week felt like I was cheating

#

My co-healer Sage was complaining he was AFK

#

So. Many. Lillies.

modest blade
#

im trying to lower my usage of eukrasian prognosis

#

lillies are nice too...free movement!!

shrewd sonnet
#

finally 💀

pearl tangle
next swan
slim void
shrewd sonnet
next swan
#

ty

pastel flame
#

Gz @shrewd sonnet !

kind wedge
craggy pawn
#

New Alliance raid very fun

sage flame
#

I think 2 days ago... we wiped like 3 times on the balance... someone keeps on switching non-stop

#

Like .... STAPPPHH MMOVVIINGG

next swan
#

to the 3 people who switched just before the time was up during nald'thal's balance mech

i hate you and you bring sickness onto these lands

sage flame
#

kek

ornate oar
#

i should have played day one kek

slim void
#

isn't it off hours for eu

craggy pawn
#

In my first blins run today, we surprisingly didnt mess up the balance mech

grizzled idol
#

It's not off-hours

#

It's 9 cet

slim void
#

oh

#

well

grizzled idol
#

!faq dflanguage

lusty shadowBOT
#
Why does it constantly take hours for my queue to pop

If you're on the EU or JP servers, it might be prudent to use the ⚙️ to change your duty finder settings to allow more players speaking different languages to be matched with you!

grizzled idol
#

Got that on?

slim void
#

it's also last day before reset

grizzled idol
#

Ye

slim void
#

so people got their coats

bright osprey
grizzled idol
#

Most would've gotten this week's reward catto_shrug

sage flame
#

Monday here in NA is off hours atm, peak time in about 3-4 hours

#

Sun-Mon are usually slow day.

wary hawk
#

Does anyone know why Primal PF is memeing/trolling about ppl who ask TNKs to lb3 in EW EX3? I’ve never once seen anyone suggest TNK lb3 in 30+ runs

echo hinge
#

I suggest it to survive towers if too many people die

#

Also saw people talking about the healing in EX3. Healing in that fight is very tame outside of Telomania. P3S is more annoying by far imo.

thorny flax
#

nice so I have seen all mechanics in EX 3

#

the mechanics are really interesting

#

especially the 2nd half of the fight

fluid adder
#

Holee shiet

pastel flame
#

I get her meaning now

#

Again, and again, and again....

pearl tangle
#

and sell/use that card

pastel flame
#

I will

#

Just finished combat jobs to 90 this week

#

Crafters next

fluid adder
#

that looks like an interesting piece of equipment

#

Whatever is it?

brisk quail
fluid adder
#

ah

brisk quail
#

!iglam augmented deepshadow scale mail of healing

lusty shadowBOT
green cave
iron scaffold
#

Gods damn, 200

slate ridge
scarlet ice
humble heron
#

lulu is certainly reputable

#

i would suspect it do be real

past light
#

suspiciously wish-fufilling for some, there are details that don't line up for me though... hmm...

late aurora
#

What the bikini or the hair?

crystal arrow
#

it's the upcoming moonfire faire set

obtuse trout
#

Oh it is? Woah

scarlet ice
somber storm
#

The bikini be enhancing me thinks

grand rampart
#

wait. Who's this?

livid oracle
#

So.... how does ||Nald'thal|| go to the bathroom

#

Enjoy that colorful image.

wind bough
grand rampart
#

wait wut. How. Since then he can walk around like a normal human and not a snake or a demigod?

late aurora
#

That’s the fun thing

#

He isn’t doing that

mint sail
#

shikigami

late aurora
#

Just like Byakko and suzaku before, they make it work

grand rampart
#

Suzaku on this event too?

mint sail
#

Or is it just sorobon each time

late aurora
livid oracle
#

thirsty bird

late aurora
livid oracle
grand rampart
#

God

#

it's amazing

wet crown
#

I actually love how often those three show up for seasonal events

grand rampart
#

where else they appeared?

somber storm
#

All the Four Lords got more human appearances allegedly

mint sail
#

I prefer "soroban + smol auspice"

sullen summit
#

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#

or need fanta?

#

btw pls mention me if nobody replies fast, might be tabbed out nd miss it

stiff charm
#

about 99% sure hroth are able to change hair at him too now

wind bough
#

Yeah they're available through aesthetician, some of them are unlockables so they require having used the relevant Modern Aesthetics item

sullen summit
#

ö

#

YEY

#

i was all like 🥲🥲🥲 thinking I needed to fanta for pineapple bnuuy lol

humble glade
#

So, I don't really know the particulars of the Balance mechanic in the Nald'thal fight. How do I calculate the weight of the copies and how much can we be off by?

placid sail
#

fuck if I know, I just scream at people to come to the other side until the balance is struck

cold pulsar
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Someone in the run i just had said 1 add is 8 players, i'm not sure how many it is normally groups just panic jump between each side until it balances out

wind bough
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Go opposite whatever add you're tethered to and the mechanic is resolved

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as long as enough people do it

river hound
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Look at the bloody scales lol.

frank raptor
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Idk if there is a leeway for the mechanic yet, for example does 25=23 still count as balanced or the scale already tilt

golden yew
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From what I can rell, the fight has no leeway. We had all the adds spawn on one side, and unless I overlooked anybody, everybody had to move to the other.

wet mountain
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I'm gonna try to wipe on that mechanic today or when I do my reclears. I wanna experience it like how everyone experienced it on day one

next swan
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BOOTS OF MAIMING ACQUIRED

now i look matching with my maiming shirt from the raid

livid oracle
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When you're tanking fire mommy in the new raid, and you notice on week 2, that her auto attacks she is stepping on you

gaunt star
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the malmstone armor set

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has really shit dye channels

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:(

livid oracle
pearl tangle
next swan
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the drip so far
🙏 i just need the in the balance orchestrion scroll

glossy hemlock
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It actually has season 2 now but I haven’t watched it yet ShibePray
They messed up the character’s hair and idk if I can forgive that

next swan
glossy hemlock
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Oh so it is the character it reminds me of lmao

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I love him so much

vernal venture
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Alliance final boss || So, Thal's Balls are Nald's Face?||

coral spindle
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question does MSQ still give the exp it used to?

humble heron
thorny flax
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I killed EX 3 🥳

eager mango
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do I discuss patch bugs here?

humble heron
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I mean u can i think

eager mango
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okay sooo

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this

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Whenever I attempt to fight ||Lahabrea|| in the final portion of the quest "The ultimate weapon" the cutscene will finish and an error message will appear in the chatbox saying "A system error occurred during event movement"

next swan
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huh

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weird, maybe write a bug report?

humble heron
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Yeah id say that

late haven
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Now that Lahabrea is a separate event... you may have to cancel the current quest and start over

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I think is was mentioned in the 6.1 patch notes... can't remember

humble heron
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You cant abandon msq thou i believe

next oriole
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it may forcefully ignore knockback immunity, gapclosers work anyways

late haven
merry hollow
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Did the new patch help with the issue launching this with Steam Deck?

gaunt star
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Any1 knows what's up with the pld dash on pvp? It says it inflicts stun for 2s but nothing happens

vast fractal
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is there maybe a list of all the weekly stuff you can do in patch 6.1? (rewards from raids, wondrous, etc.)

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stuff thats weekly capped

pearl tangle
glossy hemlock
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You kinda answered your own question

next quarry
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Deliveries too

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If you need that scrip boost

glossy hemlock
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That’s like every expansion and patch stuff tbh though

ionic flicker
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I'm surprised no one mentioned this but

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Patch 6.2 is going to introduce a new type of dungeons, and patch 6.1 is preparing us to leap into the void

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Coincidence? I think not.

regal lantern
cerulean sphinx
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Hello, in PvP, can NIN's limit break incapacitate when the person is under guard ?

pearl tangle
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i mean you can still kill while they're guarded they just take less dmg usually

cerulean sphinx
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I'm asking if the LB still works as intended when they Guard

pearl tangle
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i'm not too sure, i wanna say yes but i haven't seen enough ninjas to know

last perch
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@cerulean sphinx

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Doesnt say anything about guard so i would assume it doesnt / isnt intended

next quarry
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I wish the wolves den had a dummy what was always guarding

cerulean sphinx
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I actually just tested and guard doesn't protect from LB's death under 50%
(thank you @finite prism uwu)

next quarry
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To try out tactics

gaunt star
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what did you think of the new aetherflow in haukke manor?

next gulch
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I haven't got it once since 6.1, what was changed? Was it literally only a built-in Return at the 2nd boss?

golden palm
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yes

next gulch
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Well there's no harm there since people would use Return anyway. Saves a bit of explanation and confusion with newbies.

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Could probably use a bigger rework in the future, but certainly not complaining about making a shortcut that people are already using official.

sage flame
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13th Void world will be like 1st world in inverted or dark mode bigbrain

next gulch
stiff charm
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yeah the 13th is completely ruined

late aurora
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It is

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But now we have technology

mint sail
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to dynamis the aether back to normal

rugged pond
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Does anyone actually know who the reaper is in the void?

late aurora
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Not a reaper, and yes because you’ve seen them before in the 6.0 msq

rugged pond
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Who? I just think it's Zenos moving his soul to new body (that one) which doesn't feel like the right answer

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(Same way gargoyles for example is summoned)

late aurora
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It’s just the voidsent zenos paired with

rugged pond
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So Zenos overtaking that voidsent is still on the table. Since it's the only body that was available for him at the time.

trail tapir
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Didn't it get clarified that Zenos is dead and gone?

late aurora
trail tapir
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Him coming back a second time would be pretty uh... counter to his arc.

late aurora
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He died satisfied

somber storm
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The voidsent nommed on Zenos' soul

tidal panther
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i loving 6 1 so far the duty support system and the new pvp

rugged pond
somber storm
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Unless we are going all Liquid Ocelot

trail tapir
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Possible! I do hope he's dead, though. Felt like a good end.

late aurora
somber storm
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Look the inner machinations of Kojambo are a enigma

tidal panther
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and i dont think zenos dead

late aurora
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He better be

tidal panther
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remember he also used the echo although it a diffence kind of echo

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so i dont think hes dead

late aurora
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Who would he have taken over lmao?

tidal panther
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just saying since we were proved wrong in sb so i wouldnt be surpised

echo orbit
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"We showed Zenos dying, why don't people believe us???"

"Oh right because we brought him back after he cut his throat and died."

And now they bring that thing back, lol

next quarry
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It would be a disservice towards Zenos' character and us if that was him, but it's the voidsent he made a pact with

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Probably ate his soul

echo hinge
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Makes me wonder if that will be the ultimate fate of our own character's soul. The ones that have reaper unlocked anyway, aha.

rain onyx
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This is why you always want to read the terms and conditions

scarlet sentinel
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And we learn that the echo is simply able to read "aether memories" by Venat. (tho our character can't really control it properly)

ionic flicker
rain onyx
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criterion is probably side-content attached to the MSQ dungeon

late aurora
scarlet sentinel
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Yes but having the echo doesnt necessarily mean you can do it, I still think they are two seperate powers

rain onyx
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The echo has different powers depending on the person

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Krile's echo basically makes her an empath along with the visions of the past

late aurora
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Mikoto has future sight

rain onyx
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i do not want to acknowledge future sight

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mostly because it's played off as completely absolute

late aurora
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Oh that’s real bad

scarlet sentinel
late aurora
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Soul trauma™️

somber storm
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Mikoto with that future soul trauma

hollow wolf
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Wol telling the others about visiting elpis
Krile, an empath, sensing that its probably connected to the flower she gave them

rain onyx
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Krile looking at the Final Days over Garlemald
Krile: I can sense some bad vibes coming from this area.

somber storm
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Krile looking the remains of a battlefield
Krile: A lot of negative energy happened here

rain onyx
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"Krile, the enemies are LITERALLY made of bad vibes."

hollow wolf
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TRUE

scarlet sentinel
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More importantly think Lahabrea going to show up in the next raid tier or the last one?

late aurora
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We’ll see…oooo

scarlet sentinel
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And how hot is he going to be from a scale from 9-10?

late aurora
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Dad bod

somber storm
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David Bowie

late aurora
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Oi it’s me, david bowie

regal lantern
# rain onyx i do not want to acknowledge future sight

I think it was later revealed that her echo powers were decided by Matsuno without talking to the main lore team. Because otherwise, if it is an Echo power then Ancients could use it at will and have known about their whole future forever and they’d have been a whole different “zen” race entirely

wind bough
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Well the possibility of echo future-vision is mentioned in lorebook 1 (as an explanation for Mezaya Thousand-Eyes’ prophecies)

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But yeah it’s kinda

somber storm
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Future vision is probably useless back in the day so

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They probably used it to figure out where they put their keys

final thistle
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so like, do you think the 12 are gunna be like, dynamis people?

humble heron
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I fully 100% believe they are aliens

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And have only since come out of hiding because meteion was defeated

final thistle
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I was thinking along the lines of how they only appeared after Hyda/Zodi were gone and they were coating the planet in anti-meteon

humble heron
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Well, they had to have been here for some time

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Because like theres the statue of rhalgr and whatnot

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And historical records of people praying to the 12

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Now they could just be impostors but i dont think thats the case