retired-patch-6-3-discussion

[crystal arrow]

don't believe so, no

they may add it assuming ||we get loporrits as a beast tribe||

[brisk quail]

New raid tier has 3 unique songs

How do you seriously want more?

[crystal arrow]

huh?

it's valid to want more

since each fight in eden's gate had a unique theme

[late aurora]

And how many were remixes?

[viscid monolith]

3 new songs?

First 3 fights had 1 song and the last boss had its own

[brisk quail]

Pande theme, pande theme fight ver, hesperos theme (and then I assume a savage remix) so 4 songs for the tier

[viscid monolith]

No savage remix

[brisk quail]

So 3 unique songs then

[viscid monolith]

I don't mind because I think the song is already perfect

Also most of Omega had no original music

Unless people are counting music from old games as "new music" which I wouldn't

And most of Eden was remixes of primal themes

[brisk quail]

Exactly

This is about par for the course

[viscid monolith]

Wait did Eden have a single piece of original music

[brisk quail]

The only issue is people hear the same song 3 fights in a row and go oh shit bad

[brisk quail]

Eden 12?

Eden 12 non-savage phase I mean

Savage phase is a remix/old FF song

[indigo shale]

Panda music is very good probably best music we’ve had in a 8 man raid since Alex, not including from the heavens

[chilly bluff]

E12 first phase was original

The rest was all remixes of primal tracks or rearrangements of FF8 songs

[viscid monolith]

Anyway creating original music is obviously more time consuming than remaking an existing theme.

[brisk quail]

And he made 3 this tier

Pande theme. Pande theme but fight.
Hic svnt leones

Though I suppose

Technically

You can count pande fight theme as a remix of pande theme

[viscid monolith]

Unless they want Soken shitting out 4 entirely new songs every tier just for the hell of it. Do these idiots ever stoo and think about what they're asking?

[fluid basalt]

he has a team?

[chilly bluff]

From what we can tell about him though, he's as hands on as Yoshida. Like, dude didn't even take time from chemotherapy so he could continue working on stuff.

[indigo shale]

Hmmm, though I would like to see some more guest composers, bring in yoko shimmomura for some stuff

[brisk quail]

He has a team yeah

But he's has his hands in everything

Even if it's credited to another composer for a unique song

I have no doubt Soken was there the whole way

[open verge]

Yep

His team remixed the Eden tracks

Think it was new hires who did the titan and Levi ones

[wind bough]

Soken is sound lead as well as composer

So he’s overseeing all the recording, mixing

As well as doing sfx and area sounds

[open verge]

yep probably what they meant when they said msq taking away from battle contetn

[molten wren]

||something felt poetic about coming in on a duty-in-progress ticket for Endsinger|| major 6.0 spoilers

[humble heron]

You should tag spoilers @molten wren though thats cool

[molten wren]

donezo

||also doing it on summoner felt even more apt, calling on the gods of Ethirys to defend their world||

[brisk quail]

I mean all through MSQ there was good tracks

I think that's why people are hurt or why they said msq took away from raid

Like... I'm still not over ||Flow (Band Version)||

That song is 👌

[open verge]

true

music selection this expansion was great

even the piano imagination theme hmm

not new but it was never in the msq

[regal lantern]

You guys hear? Apparently new trailer job might be reaper or gambler

Or not

[wind bough]

There is no info on what the next expac’s posterboy job will be

Don’t put stock in “rumours”

[strange wing]

We got like two years to speculate anyway. No reason to start arguing about it now.

[obtuse trout]

Could also very well be one of the new jobs from 7.0
Only time will tell

[balmy chasm]

Oh I missed the Soken chat

He's the best

Back in the day it was Uematsu who was one of the favorite vgm composers, I feels like Soken has taken up that mantle now

[open verge]

Both are great

Soken earned his own spots in the goats

[balmy chasm]

Yeah definitely

He has been consistently awesome since arr

[haughty crater]

😭

I dont know where to post this but I worked really hard and got a little bit better

game is hard

[rustic heath]

can be put in #716926528507740241 since it is indeed improvement

[astral raven]

so i finished EW and I have a question

||who dropped the teleportation device back down for the WoL after the fight with Zenos?||

[open verge]

||meteion||

[stiff charm]

maybe

[knotty flicker]

I still can't believe we stood there and did nothing as ||the Satrap got eaten||. Like wtf.

[safe grotto]

secretly wanted him eaten.

[wind bough]

||Left ambiguous but as this is a place where emotions reflect reality it could have been many things. Personally I go with what I feel is the most obvious answer, which is that it was delivered to you by the Scions wishing for your safe return||

||But it could have been from Meteion, or some even say it was Zenos giving you a gift since you gave him one||

||Or it could have just been your own hope||

[astral raven]

so its a "interpret as you see fit" kinda thing

i see

[wind bough]

Yeah

[jade relic]

|| "Endure. Survive. Live." - Zenos Yae Galvus ||

anyone know what mission ||Zenos talks with Jullus?||

[glossy hemlock]

|| It’s during Garlemald final days section don’t remember the name though ||

[rain onyx]

||"As the Heavens Burn"||

level 88 MSQ quest

[jade relic]

got it, scene 4. thank you!

[manic harbor]

||holy shit||

[obtuse trout]

Mm yup

[warm crater]

||which one is faster smileton or stigma?||

[brisk quail]

Or you could take it super literally and say it's ||yours||

And it ||fell or was our of your possession after endsingers' defeat and it just has a really really really low terminal velocity||

[deft burrow]

I don't notice a difference

I think the first though

[warm crater]

same

the in between Bosses feels a bit quicker

[deft burrow]

yep

[mighty eagle]

I just met someone in a HW trial that looks exactly like ||Hermes||, thankfully didn't have the name tho lmao

[wet crown]

doesn't look like the right hair or eye color

[mighty eagle]

hair is right, but the eyes are def unique

[glossy hemlock]

Well yeah you can’t have || the ancient’s eyes || it’s a unique trait only to them and funny thing is apparently it’s treated as a tattoo instead of the eye colour someone here found out iirc

[late aurora]

Tattoo update never

[glossy hemlock]

Ikr sad

[sharp bear]

Just finished EW, decent story, although I'd recut it. It also did a bit of a mess of the established event timeline, but I'm pretty sure someone already straightened this out.

However, one question that I can't get rid of: ||If Venat smashed things to pieces, how come Meteion hasn't eaten each of the shards one by one? Each of those shards would only have a mini-Zodiark to defend it, so with enough time and patience, she should be snacking on them one by one.||

[humble heron]

||nothing has stated that Meteion has the power to travel across the rift; after all, it's a pain in the ass to do||

[wet crown]

There is no mess in the timeline.

[sharp bear]

"Aw, just great. Well, I'm not reaching over THERE, gonna wait till someone does it." :D

but that makes sense, given how ||First has not seen any disturbances||

[wet crown]

And you're wrong again.

[humble heron]

to be quite honest ||meteion might not even understand the concept of the shards, considering she certainly wasnt in the capital city when it happened||

[wet crown]

||Ryne did say she sensed a disturbance like the WoL first did on the moon.||

||The First, and probably the other shards, were lucky that the Final Days didn't go on any longer or the song of oblivion would've reached them, too.||

[humble heron]

||well, i don't know if theres any evidence to support that. it doesnt seem like the reflections mirror every single happening from the source||

[wet crown]

||If the source falls, so do the shards.||

[humble heron]

||i know, but at that point i dont think the song of oblivion specifically would transfer over. i think other calamities would happen in the reflections||

[gusty quiver]

I kinda had to put the whole EW thing into perspective, ||meteion was such a small part of a MUCH bigger world. I think there's magnitudes more menacing things that could exist beside dynamis sad bird hivemind||

[vernal scarab]

I need an opinion

lvl 85+

[blazing edge]

Yeah

[chrome sundial]

The gsme gave me an "unable to obtain" for the raid leg piece I needed for the gear

[humble heron]

did you roll on multiple pieces of loot?

[chrome sundial]

Yeah I think so. It must've give me soemthing else

[prime basalt]

Panda Savage has broken me man

I legit cant do it

[dawn plume]

Rip

[knotty flicker]

I never realized this but it seems like Garlemald didn't really work for everyone

Like the whole time we spent there

In a way I kinda agree. Like you're not gonna make me feel bad for attacking Prae xD

[humble heron]

||estinien x vrtra 4ever||

[plucky prairie]

Unpopular opinion but this patch isn't that good. The Hermes/Meteion quests were so tedious I almost think this is the worst expansion.

[astral raven]

i understand where you are coming from
i felt the same way about the garlemald part
if you are not connecting with the story it will feel very tedious

everything in EW exists to serve the story, so if you dont care or find yourself disconnecting with the characters in that particular arc you wont enjoy yourself

i almost wanted to quit in garlemald but i dragged myself to do it and by the time i got to the 4th zone i was hooked so i enjoyed it from there but the first 3 levels were such a drag

[versed kite]

it has ups/downs for me

the moon was definitely the worst section though

[astral raven]

||i like the bunnies so it was an enjoyable journey for me on the moon||

[rare saddle]

by EW, the game has ceased trying to convince you to like anything
it assumes you're invested in pretty much foqing all of it lol

[astral raven]

i am invested in the story but i hate the garlemald arc so much

[indigo shale]

The garlemald arc imo was the best part of ew|| Elpis was shit and ultima Thule was so-so||

[blazing edge]

You guys know that the Garlemald part isn't an endorsement of Garlemald right

||it was supposed to show how brainwashed the Garleans were. They were there to show how much their citizenry has been warped, and how hard it was to broker peacr between Eorzea and Garlemald||

[keen osprey]

@acoustic basin ||Venat||'s outfit:

[acoustic basin]

ty

is that with Anamnesis?

[keen osprey]

Like i said, her outfit is custom. There is no equipable equivalent

[acoustic basin]

anamnesis as in the tool, also the ||sophists robes|| that we get are similar enough

yeah that does look like it might be goobbue grey

[keen osprey]

No idea. Just googled it and found it on a cosplay blog (They got the model from somewhere to use as a reference for IRL cosplays)

[acoustic basin]

ah ok fair enough

[rare saddle]

the shade is unique . w.

[acoustic basin]

fair enough

[regal lantern]

The problem with EW is, the story is so heavily philosophical

Be it garlean arc or the actual thing with Elpis

The average fantasy rpg story enjoyer is unlikely to enjoy concepts as convoluted and also as tediously deep as the various stuffs portrayed in EW

[wind bough]

[regal lantern]

Nihilism is only 1 aspect of EW

[indigo shale]

Eh the garlemald arc is just a condensed Hw

[regal lantern]

True!

[indigo shale]

In essence regarding the process with bringing peace between long warring nations

With one side fuelled by lies and propaganda

[regal lantern]

But HW felt more easy to digest because we see both sides for almost equal periods of time and thus no deep opinions were formed

It’s hard to sympathise with Garlemald after you literally spent 5 expansions fighting it

[wind bough]

Simply empathy skill issue

[indigo shale]

From a meta perspective but from one that actually matters like an in universe perspective it’s easy to digest

[regal lantern]

For someone who isn’t deeply invested in ffxiv lore, it’ll feel like “wait why are scions suddenly empathising with this nation? Wtf?”

[wind bough]

No it won’t

Not if they’re a human with basic empathy

[open verge]

???

[wind bough]

Nothing to do with lore investment wtf

[regal lantern]

I mean there are people who questioned it

[open verge]

Have you seen the terrible things that were happening in that zone story

[wind bough]

There are people who do a lot of things

[regal lantern]

I’ve seen people over on Twitter and various discord servers wondering why Alphinaud was sympathising with the 1st’s legatus

[wind bough]

He wasn’t sympathising, he was empathising

[regal lantern]

Also chill out, you can respond to me without sounding like some guy on 4chan

[open verge]

Alphinaud has the habit of being reasonable yes

[wind bough]

https://tenor.com/view/emet-selch-emet-blink-gif-15067958

[indigo shale]

Peoples views on villains are interesting in this game, the less evil they are the less liked they become

[wind bough]

Chill out he tells me

[regal lantern]

Lol I wonder if there’s actually a solid correlation

Although many people hates Zenos

Either cause he’s evil or cause he’s boring

[indigo shale]

I know there’s more to it than that but it’s what I’ve noticed from my view on things on a base level

[wind bough]

Mildly horrible acts feel more grounded and real, and relatable

Whereas “genocide of seven planets” is kinda too enormous to grasp and therefore doesn’t hit as hard for everyone

[regal lantern]

Yes, people are unable to comprehend “genocide is bad”. /s

[wind bough]

Also those villains are hot

[rain onyx]

Also the garleans as a whole were victims of being manipulated by ascians

[wind bough]

I see you’re new here

[indigo shale]

Like the way people speak of asahi compared to emet selch you’d think asahi was the more evil one out of the pair for example

[wind bough]

We get genocide apologists waltzing in here on the semi-reg

[tidal mauve]

every day

[rain onyx]

Wake me up when Hydaelyn Fanatic finally comes back.

[tidal mauve]

man i wish we could have joined emet

[wind bough]

Uh oh

[rain onyx]

[wind bough]

[tidal mauve]

i wish the latter half of ew was mostly just more extreme violence and misery

[regal lantern]

Wrong game you’re playing pal

[tidal mauve]

every day there's someone like that

[indigo shale]

If this community decided how the story should go then we,d have killed everyone in the city states, sided with gaius, thordan and emet, killed all the garleans

[tidal mauve]

the end of us part 2

[open verge]

And ala mhigo would have never happened

[wind bough]

People not understanding how to empathise with Garlean civilians and indoctrinated soldiers is nothing new

Just people being disappointing once again

[regal lantern]

I mean that’s evident from the whole Meteion—Twitter parallel lol
The devs are prolly hinting something there

[regal lantern]

Or not but it’s a possibility

[open verge]

Twitter parallel?

Please do not bring that character down like that

[rain onyx]

ngl, but it's hard to do when Quintus is basically "if you want peace, then why not let us conquer you? hmm?"

[wind bough]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bluebird_of_happiness

[regal lantern]

https://tenor.com/view/twitter-gif-23330288

[indigo shale]

Also when did the 1st legion get a legatus from what I thought it seemed the 1st was under direct control from varis not needing a legatus

[regal lantern]

I actually felt bad for quintus when he was saying that. How far brainwashed they were to think this way. It’s Gaius but even worse

[indigo shale]

Don’t drag down Quintus by comparing him to gaius

[regal lantern]

Oh no

Quintus is on another level

[open verge]

Anyways

[regal lantern]

His idea of unity… yikes

[tidal mauve]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/699337016881447033/932441749081706557/5c0c94467bf344dff2d52d7e18ec87197ebcdb3b94a03907709cf23d07f47333_1.mp4

[indigo shale]

It’s the same as varis which makes sense As the 1st was varis legion

[open verge]

Yea that’s why Varis is a bitch tho

[wind bough]

We never had info suggesting this was the case

[regal lantern]

Varis is literally those people who unironically says stuff like “you live in a society”

[indigo shale]

So if anyone was to take the propaganda hard it would be the legatus of the legion who was under direct control from the emperor

Varis is a bitch because emet selch made him that way

[open verge]

No

He’s a bitch

[indigo shale]

Yes but it’s because of emet

[open verge]

Nah

He’s just a bitch

[indigo shale]

Yes

And no

[open verge]

Yea bro I’m gonna gas the world and cause a calamity

That’s a bitch move

You tryna tell me that isn’t

[indigo shale]

Read what I said

[open verge]

I did

And I disagree

[regal lantern]

Elliot isn’t denying Varis being a bitch, he’s saying Varis is this way because of Emet

[indigo shale]

No you didn’t read

[rain onyx]

||https://twitter.com/jocatffxiv/status/1475959392554172425?s=21||

[regal lantern]

Emet is responsible for a lot of shit, including Vauthry

[open verge]

Ye bro

I know

[regal lantern]

Ok bro

[open verge]

👍

[open verge]

Varis thinking he wasn’t getting manipulated by ascians😂

[indigo shale]

What’s great in ||ultima Thule when we summon that idiot back he pretty much says he’d still kill us but can’t be bothered because it’s not his duty anymore||

[open verge]

||man in elpis telling emet the monster he becomes was so good||

[gusty quiver]

Even though we can even kick his shit in during his extreme super saiyan form

[open verge]

Well

[indigo shale]

Eh I say he could beat us in a more fair fight just one on one

[open verge]

Maybe not solo

[indigo shale]

Like we had 5 light wardens and 7 other warriors of light with us

Plus the scions

Who made it so we could actually beat him with auracite

[open verge]

Scions weren’t involved in the actual fight

They got btfo

Nvm

[indigo shale]

Yeah but we never beat him till they got involved

[open verge]

Pretty much ye

He’d beat our ass

[indigo shale]

So we could probably give him a little kicking but then he’d just blast us with something and as he can use creation magic he could create whatever monster he could as well to beat us

He could even just pull out a gun and boom we are dead

[proud jewel]

is there a site where I can see different models of sage weapons?

[blazing edge]

That would be nice

[open verge]

Garland tools

[grizzled idol]

https://weapon.ffxivcollection.com/ has animated pics of glowy weps, it's in jpn tho so expect some funky translations

Ah yes the jobs also just saw there's an English version now apparently, so problem solved

[pulsar current]

my favorite job moth

[grizzled idol]

Idk vegetable is pretty dope too

[pastel venture]

Vegetable
New name for war

[fluid basalt]

new jobs for 7.0? leak this early

wow

[rain onyx]

mothman as new dps

MTH

[blazing edge]

your new dps

[obtuse trout]

[somber storm]

Vegetable

[tulip geyser]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gh6Avylek_0

[limpid lintel]

so TIL that hythlodaeus uses a viera face model

[gaunt star]

Shocking

[astral raven]

These migration birds look kinda weird

[late aurora]

I see that guy flexing his pteranodon

[astral raven]

if i had it i would have flex that too

giga time waste

[open verge]

^

[regal lantern]

Btw was there any news of relic weapons for 6.0?

[late aurora]

No we don’t know how EW relics are gonna go

[thorny sleet]

far too early to say something about ew relic, shb ones started in 5.25

[open verge]

And bozja didn’t come til like 5.3

[fluid basalt]

they are going to delay it to x.25 again?

[flat breach]

Has hildibrand made a return?

[late aurora]

Obviously not

[humble heron]

He will return

[strange wing]

6.1

[gaunt star]

i hope it’s 6.1

[astral raven]

god i love this game

[calm forge]

https://tenor.com/view/ffxivpusheen-red-mage-redpusheen-rdmpusheen-gif-19356957

oh im in the wrong chat

[haughty crater]

🥺

[pulsar current]

so, you have tried FFXIV now with a free trial up to lvl 60 including the critcally acclaimed heavensward expansion?

[lethal inlet]

whats the title of the music playing when graha is eating burger

[astral raven]

no, because ff14 doesnt have a free trial up to lvl 60 including the critcally acclaimed heavensward expansion

not until jan 25

[thorny flax]

EW final zone spoiler.

😭

[astral raven]

welcome to feelswalker

i cried my eyes swollen in that zone

[lethal inlet]

anyone know?

[limpid lintel]

I did it

I finally cleared p3s

After a week of party finder hell

[warm crater]

anyone have a p1s macro?

for markers

i wonder if theres one on

pb

[glossy hemlock]

Aren’t macros just standard ?

I mean

Markers

[warm crater]

im lazy

and i dont want to

fuck up the distance

[glossy hemlock]

Check forums?

[astral raven]

do we know which beast tribes will be added

[late aurora]

We can certainly guess, based on details

[glossy hemlock]

||Bnuuy||

[indigo shale]

we know 2 of the 3

[glossy hemlock]

||Robot||

[indigo shale]

lopporits and matanga

[late aurora]

Are you sure

[glossy hemlock]

Not sure

[indigo shale]

||omicron will probably be the 3rd based on the restaurant/cafe||

[glossy hemlock]

Restaurant?

[late aurora]

Do the 90 dungeons

[glossy hemlock]

Oh the cafe collab

[indigo shale]

also if thats in response to me, i am sure, because they revealed those 2 beast tribes at fanfest

[late aurora]

Well according to a SHB presentation, our “beast tribes” were nu mou and pixies

[glossy hemlock]

It makes sense for the || omicron ||

So who knows

[late aurora]

Which as we know now, is half true

[glossy hemlock]

Yeah but they’re in separate areas this time

[late aurora]

Still, we can’t really be sure until they tell us

[glossy hemlock]

Yeah obviously

[indigo shale]

well technically its not wrong, we do end up helping a nu mou as part of the pixie beast tribe quests

[glossy hemlock]

Like way later though tbh

[late aurora]

But the nu mou themselves aren’t a separate tribe quest

[glossy hemlock]

Still this time they’re in totally different areas

[fluid basalt]

hopefully we get something ||garlemald. that area is dead af||

[glossy hemlock]

Definitely imo

Some type of || resort bay the twins will less likely using the train to transport you to the area I’d think? ||

[rustic halo]

EX2 ||i feel like it would've been funny (if a bit cruel) if hydaelyn can cast benediction||

||make it combined with permanent hallowed ground her "enrage" so instead of a wipe, you are forced to uselessly flail around until the entire 60 minutes timer has passed||

while we're at it EX1 ||zodiark's first move should be the instant death Darkja from FFXII, but interruptible... with a 1.5 second cast time :D||

[glossy hemlock]

||THE GREAT CATACLYSM FAITHFULLY RECREATED||

[rustic halo]

||endsinger EX should end (i. e. crash) your game if you hit enrage||

[glossy hemlock]

|| the servers do that well enough ||

[rustic halo]

||since LB is powered by dynamis, endsinger EX should instantly wipe you if you use LB at any point||

||or at least heals to full if it was a non lethal DPS LB||

||she should also heal every time a segment of the LB gauge fills up||

||the exploding planets should fly across the arena first like Lightwaves, instantly killing you if you touch it, and the explosions should cover almost everything forcing you to huddle in a pixel-sized safe spot while she casts the AOE tankbuster||

||she should shoot suns that kill you if you look at it, so while doing all that you have to looka certain way to not die, followed by starburst AOE placed on every player||

|| no, I'm not hurt :D I'm totally fine :D||

[slate ridge]

I’ve seen some people like woops say Guren Lagen with endwalker’s msq. I don’t watch that anime so I have no idea what they’re talking about

Like they say ||meteion going nihilistic is the anti spiral||

[stiff charm]

||dw we will get ivalician zodiark in corvos content||

trust me

[humble heron]

Thats valid, caicai

It certainly borrows a lot from gurren lagann

[astral raven]

is there any boat you can take to thavnai

[humble heron]

No but you can take the confluence by talking to kytte @astral raven

[astral raven]

oh right

thanks

i totally forgot about that

[inner ice]

i find it weird because teleport costs for thav are not based on the existence of the confluence

[humble heron]

Same

[blazing edge]

can i do p1s with avg ilvl575 gear

[glossy hemlock]

Yes

[acoustic basin]

is there a way to replay the ||zenos fistfight cutscene||

cant see it anywhere

[inner ice]

not in the book i don't think

[acoustic basin]

yeah thats why im asking

great cutscene. but not there :(

[astral raven]

only way is NG+

[lean ore]

NG+ for Endwalker will come wih 6.1

[acoustic basin]

ak ok

didnt take enough screenshots lol

[humble heron]

U should still tag spoilers

[knotty flicker]

https://preview.redd.it/keak6x6ibgb81.png?width=831&format=png&auto=webp&s=de8dc1d86bb787ec9d882505fd6f8809c3b2dffd
Gosh I love Ameliance xD

[glossy hemlock]

Tbh I also hate carrots so

[late aurora]

Hide the carrot taste with other food

[glossy hemlock]

Nah I can taste it in anything

The texture is even worse though tbh

[late aurora]

True dat

[granite nimbus]

I love carrots, crisp and sweet when they're fresh.

Meanwhile, I'm sitting here making 500 cups of matcha for my FC's latest venue.

Just gotta press these two buttons 90 more times...

[mint sail]

Make a macro, then you only gotta press one button 90 more times

[glossy hemlock]

Lmao

[glossy hemlock]

Why aren’t you just quick synthesizing it?

[granite nimbus]

They're being sold to people at their social venue.

So my FC leaders want them all HQ.

They apparently go for 5k to 10k a pop.

My question is why they need 500 straight up.

Since, for stuff like Hand-Poured Coffee, that's 1000 Underground Spring Water and 1,600 Coffee Beans.

Never mind all the button pushing.

[glossy hemlock]

What the fuck why would you pay 5k for a fucking piece of food that’s not even best for combat

[granite nimbus]

Fuck if I know.

But considering my FC has a fleet of submarines, I guess it sells well.

[glossy hemlock]

Literally pay like 1.2k for best combat food for DPS

[granite nimbus]

The social aspect? I dunno.

[glossy hemlock]

It’s a roleplay thing?

[granite nimbus]

My FC leaders also do ERP, so...

Probably.

[glossy hemlock]

FOSJNSKANSSN HHAHAHH

Okay that explains it carry on lmfaooooo

[granite nimbus]

But yeah, I'm done crafting for today.

600 cups of Matcha and 500 cups of Spiced Cider.

My wrist burns more than when I do my roulettes.

[glossy hemlock]

Did they pay you?

[wheat stag]

||A TEST OF YOUR REFLEXES||

[granite nimbus]

I'm being reimbursed for all gil I spent crafting at least.

[glossy hemlock]

Brooo...

[granite nimbus]

Yeah... I kind of regret doing this already.

[glossy hemlock]

You got me fucked up

[granite nimbus]

I just felt like trying to be helpful.

[glossy hemlock]

Well ya learned today lol

It’s sweet of you to do it regardless but

Forreal you gotta take care of yourself

[keen osprey]

Do u not use macros?

[sudden spruce]

Please tell me youre getting more than just reimbursement

[gusty quiver]

I figured out how to log the last fight I wanted to see, how do I find uptime in fflogs? super new to this

Wanna see where I'm losing GCD

because I don't remember when I'm out of the fight, too busy focusing on next mech

Is it the Active % under casts? Is this what I'm looking for?

[prisma temple]

link your log to xivanalysis

[knotty flicker]

Saw this online xD
Ultima Thule is my biggest gaming disappointment in years because of how bland it feels after Estinien. Just everything and everyone going through the motions for a few hours.

[pulsar current]

eh, it did feel pretty predictable to me

[swift kraken]

something predictable =/= something bad

🤨

im not sure why that take arose within EW because its the only criticism people have of the last part

[indigo shale]

well thats because it werent trying anything else, they pretty much figured out early in the zone thats what they have to do to continue ahead

this werent a complaint in shadowbringers where we did the same thing for 5 zones in a row

[swift kraken]

ywah, i dont think it was meant to be a great surprise and more about the emotional impact

[knotty flicker]

Plus they don't even know if there is a way back. We did because we know that Yoshi-P would never allow all the characters to die like that

[swift kraken]

plot twists dont get ruined either just because you figured them out in advance

[knotty flicker]

Well, Y'shtola knew, but she said not to use it

[indigo shale]

also if that is what someone considers the biggest gaming disappointment in years then they cant have played any other game except FF14 since 2012

[swift kraken]

we knew theyd come back somehow, but we didnt know within what context it would ne

so the "real" surprise wasnt ever spoiled to begin with

[indigo shale]

hydaelyn even super powered the azem crystal before we went to ultima thule

[pulsar current]

i dont think that it helped that i did the whole msq in 4 days

so i was kinda burnt out by the end

final fight was pog af tho

[indigo shale]

yeah, that solo duty was great

[knotty flicker]

The full quote:

Yeah, that zone felt like 1 hour of story/setup stretched out as far as possible in the most expected and boring way possible.

Ultima Thule is my biggest gaming disappointment in years because of how bland it feels after Estinien. Just everything and everyone going through the motions for a few hours.

[pulsar current]

i liked zenos so it was great

[indigo shale]

they've really stepped up the quality of solo instances since SB

[swift kraken]

the lvl 83 solo duty is still my favourite i think

i felt that shit

[pulsar current]

yeah that was kickass

[indigo shale]

in from the cold seems to be not liked, but that means it achieved its purpose

[pulsar current]

i loved every second

[swift kraken]

it wasnt? i saw praise for it a lot

i loved the whole thing

[indigo shale]

well at least here there have been quite a few complaints about it

[pulsar current]

bad players complained about it

[swift kraken]

well haha i know someone who did

but he like glazed over the dialogue because he didnt know where to go

so he complained that the duty was aimless even though it tells you several times to go to the camp

i dont know about anyone else, but my first instinct was to go that way lol

[pulsar current]

i struggled a little for where to go but that was fun tbh

plus i have a ton of experience messing around with LoS in eureka

[knotty flicker]

Garlemald to me kinda felt like a miss with how they tried to make you feel bad about the citizens there.

Which I did feel bad. But then I just got annoyed everytime they blamed me for something they caused lol.

"My friends died in Prae because of you!" Yeah okay that's cute move aside pls.

[swift kraken]

well, it wasnt the citizens of garlemald that caused it

[knotty flicker]

Sorry I meant soldiers

[indigo shale]

garlemald was the best part of EW imo

[swift kraken]

neither was it the soldiers

it was the higherups that spread propaganda

[indigo shale]

at first i was worried they would treat everyone like gaius and pretend they never committed any crimes

but they showed it as it is

which is great

[knotty flicker]

I understand that. I will still express my annoyance that I had to deal with some of those people. Though its probably because I like talking to everyone haha

[swift kraken]

it was gaius fault in the end, but from the citizens pov, you came into prae killing tons of soldiers who may have been their friends or family, all while garlemald told them that gaius was in the right

its pretty fucked up

[knotty flicker]

I wish we could have gotten the music tho

from the radio

[pulsar current]

good point

[swift kraken]

2 orchestrion rolls i desperately need

[tidal mauve]

me and the boys committing high speed murder in praetorium and castrum

[swift kraken]

the garlemald radio music + venat instance music

[knotty flicker]

I can't wait til we get the Final Trial music

Eventually

[swift kraken]

i cant believe we got flow but not flow together

[pulsar current]

causing grief any%

[swift kraken]

crime

[knotty flicker]

Also I need the FFIV music pls Square

[pulsar current]

you know what would be cool? ff4 boss music for fates

in bnuuy area

[indigo shale]

emet selch really ruined the garleans with his shit

[pulsar current]

tbf they weren't really doing too hot before hand 🙂

[indigo shale]

beforehand they were relatively harmless, due to getting betrayed by even their own hired mercenaries, dying in the cold and so on

[knotty flicker]

yes pls

I still hope we get a Zeromus boss battle somehow

Either as post EW trial (though to get there would be nuts) or through a raid

[indigo shale]

if the pacing was different, could have had zenos voidsent do some strange shit and become like zeromus or something idk, considering we were in an area made of dynamis a lot could have been possible

[tidal mauve]

more moon content probably

[knotty flicker]

Yeah I remember thinking that they could possibly do a Zenos fusion with Zodiark to become Zeromus lol

Before EW came out I mean

[indigo shale]

well the original thought i had was zenodiark would have been the final trial, with fandaniel getting killed by zenos sometime beforehand

[knotty flicker]

Yeah true true

[tidal mauve]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/742643125981413447/919640023215784026/FGZ09-1WUAIp7Kp.png

[vital timber]

Loporrits are basically moogles but less irritating to deal with. 🙂

[strange wing]

Yea actually.

Useful moogles

[pulsar current]

When loporrit primal

Wait

That’s just mommy h lmao

[open verge]

Yea we are the heroes of the world and we kill gods

Even your god lopprits

[granite nimbus]

I'm Level 90, so I just needed to hit Trained Eye and Groundwork to finish stuff like Spiced Cider.

[calm forge]

WHEN DOES THE LABYRINTHOS MUSIC CHANGE

[open verge]

Progress the goddamn msq

[calm forge]

reeeeeeeee

[somber storm]

change back to clown music

[mental rose]

uhm er so

i was re-watching the lyrics for Shadowbringer and one line in particular made more sense now after finishing Endwalker

"These memories ache with the weight of tomorrow"

many parts that didnt make sense before in some songs, now makes more sense

[mental rose]

For this i may be mistaken, but (Level 87 MSQ spoilers) ||after we know about Venat and after doing the level 87 Dungeon, this part is basically her memories with us, knowing what will come and how much suffering and pain we would need to get through, she was watching us all this time||

[indigo shale]

i think its just because by that point derplander has done so much and experienced so much leading up to arriving on the first ||not really anything to do with venat/hydaelyn||

[mental rose]

There are many ways of understanding that, but ||she watched us and knew about our journey from the very beginning||

[indigo shale]

by the time we did shadowbringers ||we hadn't had went back in time, so venat wouldn't have known about what is to come, until the timeline converges upon our return from elpis||

[mental rose]

||The thing is, we told everything to her and she knew until that point of time travel of our journey, after that she didnt a thing||

[indigo shale]

||yeah, but by the time we told her all the stuff had already happened in our timeline, so that achieved nothing and changed nothing, its just when the timelines converged it paved a new way from where we already were rather than influence or effect anything that already happened, its very weird and shit||

||unless the loop now loops, its quite meaningless what happened||

[mental rose]

||From my perspective i think that the time shenanigans didnt change a thing tbh, since at the start of the expansion she appears in front of us and speak to us, also about her own enchantment that she detects on us, and why we were chosen as her champion. It makes more sense that she waited for us to arrive in Eorzea to choose us and help us through our journey that she knew we would thrive||

[mental rose]

||That's the thing! Everything that happened was supposed to happen! Our interference was part of the time travel shenanigans, otherwise we could have arrived at any point in time in Elpis since Venat was already there for more time than we can think of and we arrived at a point exactly when Emet and Hythlodeus arrived and met us||

[indigo shale]

||we couldnt arrive at any time, elidibus sent us back at that time specifically as it was when hermes was the chief overseer of elpis, since he was also there for pandaemonium stuff so would know when was best to send us back as i imagine he would have heard about the ktisis hyperborea memory wiping event regarding emet, hermes and hyth, so just before the time hermes took on the seat of fandaniel||

[mental rose]

||I think that he sent us there before the memory wiping event, because the trio returned to Amaurot after they got their memories wiped and not before, but we were there to gather info, not interact with people XD||

[high dawn]

Does anyone know what the soundtrack title is that starts as soon as they reveal the Dragoon skills? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WCVcgZ8dtD0

[open verge]

It’s the basic battle theme isn’t it

No it’s not can’t remember

[late aurora]

Found it

||https://youtu.be/0gVzpO0orkw||

[high dawn]

Omg thank you so much!!!!

[fluid basalt]

is that available as an orchestrion roll?

[humble heron]

U should probably spoiler that link bc of the embed description

[open verge]

Tf is an embed description

[humble heron]

Well youtube links tend to embed in discord and display the description

And the description is very much a spoiler

[open verge]

If you read the description all the way through you deserved that shot

[humble heron]

I mean maybe, but the policy is still to use spoiler bars for spoilers in this channel

[open verge]

[late aurora]

I legit have never seen that happen but okay

[steady fiber]

a certain minion refuses to drop for me T_T

[humble heron]

Dont worry its not your fault its discords

[brisk quail]

Lemme say my piece about this ahem.

||The whole elpis arc is a closed time loop||

||The proof is in Argos||

[mental rose]

||Yep, the first time we meet the doggo||

[brisk quail]

||Argos let us ride him on the moon, well before we did/or in this case, remembered we did this||

||and we earn his trust upon fighting venat in elpis||

||so we ALREADY did it. We just didn't have the knowledge of such||

Making it a ||closed time loop||

[mental rose]

EXACTLY!

[brisk quail]

||Nothing changed we just know the secrect info. That meteion is the cause of the final days and that she's at the edge of the universe||

[mental rose]

||everything that happened had to happen, our interference and our actions were part of everything||

[brisk quail]

||we did everything as it happened||

[mental rose]

||Known universe||

[brisk quail]

||we told venat what happened, and that she became hydalen and that the ancients would fall||

But yeah

||closed loop||

Nothing more

[mental rose]

||the phrase "He never forgets his favorites" is key here||

[jade relic]

I wonder if || it’s actually branching timelines. there could be heaps of branches where venat didn’t manage to guide the timeline to us, where the end of days wasn’t averted and they met their end. This could be the one branch where she managed to walk that tightrope and guide the star to a point where we could exist. || although that’s mostly just a thought exercise because the destination is the same wether that’s true or not

[manic harbor]

||so i just unlocked flying in thavnair wtf is this square structure||

[viscid monolith]

It's the world fate arena

[manic harbor]

||so some random enemy will appear there at a random time?||

[viscid monolith]

Yes

[late aurora]

Not just any random enemy

||Daivapida||

[manic harbor]

||weird name to be called||

[late aurora]

That’s kinda rude

[manic harbor]

It's just a monster name

[late aurora]

Yeah sure it is

[manic harbor]

Your latterly making me to look up the name because all I know it could be some kind of monster

Literally*

Well hope you happy I looked up the name and spoiled myself

[pulsar current]

Yep

We are

[manic harbor]

||it will forever be a demon in my eyes from now on||

[terse mortar]

3 day+ spawn time so hard to say if u will ever see it unless u server jump or instance jump

[prime basalt]

Ive lost myt mind

I cant beat Savage

and i feel terrible for it

[next quarry]

Don't push yourself

[prime basalt]

I am

because i cant not stop thinking about it

Its at the point i just wanna quit the gamew

[frigid igloo]

what is this monstrosity? are this expansion's MSQ's longer than the others?

[mint sail]

They did say so

They also said they would reduce the aether currents for previous expacs

It all used to be 10 exploration 5 quests

[frigid igloo]

ahhh so that's why

[late aurora]

Yeah they just changed it for EndWalker

[slate ridge]

why do i feel like the rdm stormblood quest foreshadows reapers in a way that it involves making pacts with the void

[dim sigil]

It's not like making agreements with the void hasn't been a thing before

[slate ridge]

oh yeah, blm also mentioned that

[late aurora]

Mage war, mage war, mage war

[topaz dune]

birb

[untold gull]

we really need more content about the absolute chaos that is the war of the magi

[chilly bluff]

I want to see if lalafell governed nations back then had been infiltrated by lalafell ascian operatives.

[stiff charm]

like half of the class/job quest villains are "hee hee i made a pact with voidsent - uh oh" or "hee hee i got some allagan technology - uh oh"

[pastel venture]

"hee hee i made a pact with voidsent - uh oh"
Me picking up Reaper: "That can't happen to me right"

Kinda wild the WoL can cannonically just make a pact with a voidsent despite seeing the shit that happens to ppl who do

[lone fiber]

shout out to the devs for sticking crystals onto every single gathering node so people aren't bugged by leaving them unfinished once they get all their stuff. very nice gameplay decision that goes unnoticed but you know the devs were like "its going to bother people if they just walk away from unfinished gathering nodes. lets put something important but relatively insignificant there so they can mine it"

[gusty quiver]

I dont know if RPR is just easier or something or if I'm dumb

I do way more damage with lower iLvl gear on RPR than I do on BLM

well

like 400 DPS more

[pulsar current]

rpr is eaiser to optimize and does more damage, along with arcane circle helping it out

[gusty quiver]

Hmm

Looking forward to the BLM buff then

RPR just seems like the obvious choice for me in their current state

Shame all my limbo gear is Casting

Ye I can only manage 6600DPS or so with BLM and I can do like 7k flat with RPR

Sadge

Maybe I'm just shit though

[indigo shale]

thats like nothing though, that will make no difference in any instance

[gusty quiver]

I mean 5-6% damage seems like a sizeable chunk

[indigo shale]

nah, only if someone is bad at the job they are playing, like good dancers can outperform average reapers and such

[gusty quiver]

I wanna know these monke strats where people are getting like 7400 DPS in 89ex

With like RDM

besides the obvious food and pots

because this guy did not pot a single time

maybe they're just goated

who knows

[open verge]

So cap

That’s just not happening

If your saying a dogshit reaper maybe

But an average reaper is not going to be doing dps remotely close to a dancer pro at the same gear level

[blazing edge]

Reaper seems really strong, how well do they perform at low levels?

[thin granite]

Thinking about Asura's Wrath, after finishing the story

https://tenor.com/view/asura-fist-bump-ls-fist-punch-gif-5279631

Asura's Wrath, Gurren Lagann, and FFXIV all have a fist-bump and then a bare-knuckle brawl in a pure-color space to decide the fate of everything.

[somber storm]

Metal Gear Solid

https://tenor.com/view/mgs-gif-20736578

[granite nimbus]

I was in an Alliance Raid the other day where I was out-aggroing everyone but the tank as Bard.

Including a Reaper and Samurai.

[open verge]

Aggro is not an accurate measure of dps tho

[blazing edge]

unless you're trying to out aggro a healer and tank, it should be a decent metric for damage, no?

not sure if im right because DPS don't really have big aggro-generating tools beside their dps

[crystal arrow]

it's a vague metric for dps

but

shouldn't be treated as concrete

[blazing edge]

its more like a general metric ye

[onyx sundial]

Kinda is a metric for dps

But not entirely accurate

[blazing edge]

basically if you're 3rd in the aggro list as a dps and the reaper is 8th for most of the fight, you know what's up

[onyx sundial]

Thing is heals are also considered for aggro

So if you pop bloodbath and second wind

You will generate a lil bit more aggro than another person on the same job

[blazing edge]

so SMN's phoenix generates lots of aggro?

[onyx sundial]

Quite a bit

But im not too sure

[mental rose]

RPR is top dmg nowadays it seems, wait til 6.08 first since it will balance things out

[pastel venture]

There is always gonna be some job top damage

just play whatever you want

[mental rose]

the thing is that it is unbalanced for now

RPR is more in line with DRG, it shouldnt be doing that much dmg

it seems it is going in the same level as SAM iirc

[pastel venture]

? Why is rpr more in line with dragoon?

[mental rose]

the gear, the buffs

[pastel venture]

Well yeah, but they are more likely going to buff other jobs like sam and blm than nerf reaper

Like, if you remove raid buffs, sam beats reaper

[mental rose]

yes, that's why i said to Cereza to wait for 6.08 to pick their job definitely

[pastel venture]

with monk and blm being around 100~ dps behind on average

[mental rose]

im leveling everything anyway

[pastel venture]

Well thats why they should find a fun job, not a meta job

since regardless of what they pick, chances are its not going to be "meta" after a few patches

Also daily reminder MNK is just slightly behind, with 39 dps difference

aka literally doesn't matter

[open verge]

Drg and ninja will be brough up to mnk level

They never nerf a job to another’s level mid expansion

Reaper tho it’s so easy people will complain whatever they do

[open verge]

Play the jobs now because 6.08 won’t change anything about them aside from potency

[pastel venture]

^^

[wet crown]

Yeah, the main patches are where bigger changes might happen.

[astral raven]

i just thought of something

how the hell

do they top this expansion

lmao

[late aurora]

It’s not over yet

[granite nimbus]

Well, Yoshi-P said the following content will be lower stakes for the time bieng.

[indigo shale]

well the good thing is they dont need to top it, and shouldnt aim to

[blazing edge]

I hope next expac is more chill actually

Power bloat isn't good

[humble heron]

Tataru makes too much money and gets possessed by a greedy demon and we have to save her

[fluid basalt]

people who didn't like the pace of 2.x patches are going to have it rough

[open verge]

It’s not going to be thag bad

[blazing edge]

Eh, if they make the short stories interesting and captivating despite being low stakes then I'm fine with it

[open verge]

There’s gonna be some cool hook that’s gonna set the stage for the next patch

[blazing edge]

No bullshit like "COLLECT THE CORRECT COURRUPT ASPECTED CRYSTAL" and pad that playtime by making you not get the correct one five times

[humble heron]

We are going to go into giant grapes to save a volcano

[fluid basalt]

after all ||a certain group from the old days of|| 2.x did make a return in the melee role quests heh heh

[blazing edge]

but

how about the ACN guild leader

[granite nimbus]

Okay, so my FC clarified that I was always going to get paid for making thousands of servings of food.

And another FC member decided to help me out by doing half the items.

So everything's good again.

[glossy hemlock]

Hope they paid you a lot

Like 500k

[crystal arrow]

500k?

if it's current food that's not that much

[glossy hemlock]

They supposedly are paying them for the materials too so 500k would be just for the making it.

[humble heron]

500k for a few hours work is mighty fine

[pastel venture]

Ngl kinda forgot who they were lmao

[safe grotto]

I tank 4 dungeons..which gives me a good amount of 9 and 10 materia..then I sell those bitches for 10k or 40k on the MB...i dont think it goes up to 500k a day..but I know I can get moneeez from just tanking dungeons atm

[brisk quail]

Look at insert anime here

It's bad

[rigid dove]

||hydealyn's weapon can dye? I saw sage's can dye, but reaper's cant.||

[willow cedar]

This is my first time doing savage prog through PF, has it always been this hard to get tanks specifically? Healers join so fast, but there are always tanks missing

[glossy hemlock]

People wanna level Sage

[opaque hemlock]

you may have mistaken the SGE weapon as ||Hydaelyn's|| weapon does not dye.

[glossy hemlock]

So there’s more healers.

Oh savage

Point still stands people wanna play Sage

[rigid dove]

||oh yea, thanks for pointing out xD. I casted a glam before||

[royal spruce]

I got to say best thing about this expansion so far is the change in generic mount Music

[sour cradle]

I yeeted mount music when I realised I could I never want to hear the chocobo song ever again

[rain onyx]

Just use other mounts :p

[royal spruce]

Very nice what do we get last expansion for getting Max on everything a cool looking mount with nice music what do we get this time or ugly-looking feather that doesn't fit properly on our heads

[pulsar current]

For me I’m fine with it tbh

Means I don’t need to speed level everything

[frigid igloo]

the first legatus surely has good aim

[humble heron]

[frigid igloo]

very good arc though. I felt uneasy through the entire thing

[humble heron]

Agreed

[gusty quiver]

I turned off mount music immediately because I love chocobo music and didn't want to hate it 🙂

[astral raven]

i just realized we didnt even see ||gaius once after we went to garlemald lmao||

what the hell is he up to

[tidal mauve]

gundams

[astral raven]

i also realized that ||we didnt even see the new ultima weapons being built||

that was one of the plot point shb patch brought up

im guessing they are saving it for 7.0

[tidal mauve]

I like how they keep saying that terminus est is his special move but we didn't see him do it in arr

in fact his special move is his toxic piss

[astral raven]

kekw

[brisk quail]

Did you remember the scene with the ||Grand Company of Eorzea?||

He did say (if you did sorrows) ||Yo dawg I'd like to come along but Werlyt is alot to manage. I got you some supplies and stuff but I'd like to be there but I can't||

That was 'just' prior to ||everyone going to garlemald||

But him not coming isn't a big deal

Because... ||MY BOY MAXIMA CAME ALONG INSTEAD. WOOOOOOOO||

[prisma temple]

Well his reason for not going was that || he was a big divisive political figure that could incite garlean factions on either side||

[brisk quail]

||FUCK YEAH MAXIMA. YEAAAAAAAAHHHH||

[astral raven]

i know that

but after ||everything that happened in garlemald|| you would think he would be back and put things in order

but no

lmao

||garlemald is basically without a leader now||

[brisk quail]

||it has been for a while||

[prisma temple]

its still the same problem, ||if he appeared, half would call him a traitor and make thing unecesarrily heated||

[brisk quail]

||Since the civil war||

[astral raven]

but this expansion is so large i can see why they didnt touch upon it this time

cuz it already deal with so many things

[brisk quail]

And now with the ||basically offical dissolution of the current legions... minus Noah's. Having Gaius just ride up from the grave and show his face in Garlemald would make things messy||

[astral raven]

||everyone already knew hes alive||

[prisma temple]

||being alive and being part of the recovery effort is a different. It could be seen as an attempt to seize power.||

[astral raven]

yeah thats why i can see it being in a future expansion

i legit forgot about him until i watch shb patch again

and remember all the plot points shb patches brought up

[brisk quail]

The only thing I think is left with Garlemald/Garleans in general is ||Noah||

I think ||Noah will be a driving force in the new world themed expac||

[astral raven]

||garlemald restoration?||

[brisk quail]

||no||

[astral raven]

why not

they did it with ||hw and doma||

[prisma temple]

those are specially created zones,

[brisk quail]

||I mean as a plot device or future story inclusions||

[astral raven]

just content in general

[prisma temple]

if ||garlemald|| became a resoration zone, you'd lose out on an entire zone

[astral raven]

it probably wont be something large in the story

[brisk quail]

||Garlemald restoration is 'kinda' possible if they made a side zone||

[astral raven]

like ||hw and doma restoration|| are basically side activities

[prisma temple]

i could see something smaller like a beast tribe thing

[brisk quail]

||like a hamlet of garlemald||

[astral raven]

yep

thats what i was thinking

[brisk quail]

But that's not what I'm speaking of. I'm speaking of as a plot device

||as a plot device... all Garlemald has left is Noah. And the dredges of their armies which may or may not be around||

||and I'm calling Noah will be the 'big bad/oh shit we gotta go' for the new world||

[astral raven]

where do you think we will go next

im really hoping for ||meracydia||

[brisk quail]

||given the new world is rather... wild, alot is unknown by Eorzeans about it... and it's chock full of oil ceruleum. A perfect place for the 'absolutely deceased' noah to rebuild his army||

[brisk quail]

||I'm 70% sure it's mercydia due to Adzja not answering the call||

[astral raven]

you think theres a problem with him?

or her

||thats the last dragon we havent seen in the msq||

[eternal sphinx]

Pain

[bitter lion]

Competing against mommies is never wise

[gaunt star]

is there crafted glowy versions of the new weapons

[jade relic]

wow ok

[indigo shale]

tbf, ||we are also pretending to just be a familiar of which usually has no soul so our existence isn't worth anything really in elpis as they just assume if azem needs he'll make another one anyway||

[crude rover]

typically they're added several patches later if not literally the next expansion

Hades weapons were added in 5.5, everything before that was at least an expansion old

If anything I'd expect glowy versions of the weapon..
weapons starting in 6.1

[strange wing]

Feels like 6.1 is the real launch of the game

[crude rover]

I'm looking forward to WoL weapons with a glow personally.

[open verge]

It’s basically the start of the expansion features

[gaunt star]

oh.. is that why emerald greatsword doesnt have a glowy version

[thorny flax]

best character

[obtuse trout]

• one of the best

[somber storm]

Stole our moves

[upbeat sage]

I forgot that that scene was a one for one recreation of the trailer

[proven copper]

Cheems

[wheat stag]

So true

[open verge]

meanwhile estinen

[safe grotto]

Man they really fucked off the ||garleans|| this expac didn't they

[stable ice]

the fact that anima is not a trial means that we get no anima weapons ?

or extreme anima ?

[late aurora]

We already have anima weapons

[stable ice]

soo do we unlock a trial later cuz i just cleared the tower of babil and there were no chest

[pulsar current]

No

Anima weapons are in HW

They’re the relics

[stable ice]

ohh those

i am dummy

[fluid basalt]

can't believe how the Garleans were such a big issue back in ARR-HW-SB. way to trivialize earlier expacs haha

[strange wing]

Nah, it's clear that the Garleans were not built to last long. Hence why they almost caved in on themselves when Solus died

[pulsar current]

and every time their leader dies a civil war happens

[fluid basalt]

titus and nerva not dead but no show

[pulsar current]

well i meant gaius and varis

but yeah those apply too

[glossy hemlock]

What

[open verge]

The entire purpose of the empire was to fall anyway

[jolly rune]

Not quite nothing really stopping the rejoined ancients from keeping it working

If its plan worked

Solus had the bloody succession conflicts to ensure a strong leader would become emperor

As that would make for the best puppet

Someone who can rile the masses up

[open verge]

Solus died without picking a successor on purpose because he’s an ass

[jolly rune]

He didn't die

[open verge]

Well to the public yes he did

[jolly rune]

Its heavily implied he was instructing varis from the moment he became emperor

Like how the patriots give us presidents cutouts.

In mgs

[open verge]

He was

Because solus is Emet

[jolly rune]

Yes

[crystal arrow]

solus did die.

[jolly rune]

He "died"

[crystal arrow]

in like.... 2.3 or 2.4

[jolly rune]

He "died"

[open verge]

Sure did

[jolly rune]

Just like m. Bison "dies"

[open verge]

And he didn’t pick a successor

Because emet is an ass

[jolly rune]

Having a spare body and just moving to it doesnt earn you anything but quotes

You never died

Just "died"

And when the clone bodies are literally just you

Even less of a death

I wonder if they'll ever have necron in ffxiv

[gaunt star]

If he is hell probably be extradimensional, a primal, or a surviving ancient who didn't join the convention.

Through retconny bullshit

World hopping is a pretty good way to survive the sundering

Id imagine

Another has done it without space ships and just through magic

Being the tactics ogre reference

[fluid basalt]

how to world hop when the world isn't sundered yet.

[wind bough]

what?

[stiff charm]

...go to space?

[wind bough]

uh just in case this is what it's about

world visit system isn't canon

[late aurora]

Also you can’t even world hop in that place

[indigo shale]

well solus did actually die, regardless of emet, because solus was still always in that body even before emet possessed him,

[indigo shale]

and where did this information come from, the succession wars were never for this purpose

and where is it implied he was doing that so he could puppet the next emperor, varis acted independently as emet had fucked off to rest

i guess the framing question is, have you got to 4.5 yet @jolly rune

[buoyant hatch]

It was Elidibus that took the role of the puppeteer after Solus died

[indigo shale]

and that werent even for varis's full reign, like varis barely had any direct ascian influence during his short reign as emperor

[open verge]

Didn’t know solus was an actual human for a little bit

[blazing edge]

he was

and then solus took over his body

probably even changed his face so he can be more comfortable

[pastel venture]

Wait just to clarify

it was Emet who founded the empire, not Solus right?

[open verge]

Ye

Solus was a real person

But emet stole his body and used it to build the empire

[thorny flax]

If Business Division 3 continues this trend then metacritic needs a new rating system in a few years because XIV will go over 100

[indigo shale]

Solus Galvus was probably between the ages of 18-24 when emet took him over, at which time in the republic he was either a common soldier or at least a low ranking officer, and then when emet took over he rose through the ranks then took over leadership and turned the garlean republic into the garlean empire

[untold gull]

i'd say it's gonna come down a bit on score since they're gonna have to essentially setup the new arc

[wet crown]

That's fair. However, EW is over now. Usually we'd be in prologue territory in X.4 - X.5(6) but we're gonna start that in 6.1 this time.

[dusty shadow]

wonder what the 6.3 trial is gonna be then

[fluid basalt]

see 2.3

[thorny flax]

I hope the 4 fiends from FFIV are the new trial questline

I want them to keep FFXIV original trials for the story

[dusty shadow]

2.3 had no trial iirc

[indigo shale]

it had ramuh (hard)

every arr patch had a trial

[dusty shadow]

i'm talking about the x.3 msq trials

[indigo shale]

it was an msq trial, you had to do the striking tree (hard) as part of the 2.3 msq

[open verge]

All of arr trials were msq

[indigo shale]

the main difference between how they did it post arr and then post HW, is that the .3 trial are a lot bigger feeling and quite near the end of the patch msq rather than mid patch msq

[dusty shadow]

oh right they started putting the regular trials as hard trials for some reason

[dusty shadow]

guess hildibrand and relics don't have trials then

[indigo shale]

also odin had a trial that werent msq

[pulsar current]

they better not be hatin on my man greg like that smh

[open verge]

That was apart of fanfest and later added to the game

Point is arr doesn’t have a trial a series

And that’s a fact

[sand sentinel]

daigoro is a good boy

[open verge]

There’s no werlyt and four lords equivalent because all the trials that would be apart of that were stuck into the msq

[prisma vine]

do we have a date on next liveletter?

[humble heron]

We have an approximate timeframe but no hard date, end of feb

[chilly bluff]

I think they said late February?

[prisma vine]

rip ok!

[humble heron]

Itll be a big one thou prob worth the wait

[prisma vine]

still!

[open verge]

Live letter but is 3 hours of pvp news

[somber storm]

3 hours of Island Sanctuary news

[strange wing]

3 hours of balance changes

[gaunt star]

They spend another hour explaining how triple triad works again

[indigo shale]

whose point was this though, no one talked about a trials series in arr, we were talking msq trials and then non msq trials

[indigo shale]

and that doesnt take away from the fact its a non msq trial, which was in response to you claiming all of ARR's trials being msq

[manic harbor]

||i dont care if its more slowly im gonna walk slowly to the next destination||

[open verge]

My point because I felt like saying it

It’s just that simple

[turbid helm]

|| don't forget to cry too||

[manic harbor]

||it ends now||

[humble heron]

@manic harbor enjoy

[prime niche]

||A test of your reflexes!||

[obtuse trout]

Enjoy!!

[open verge]

Ahhhhh

[manic harbor]

surely this isn't a spoiler

[prime niche]

grats, your soul is now broken

[manic harbor]

what do you mean?

[prime niche]

after finishing feelswalker, that is...and now the wait to see what else they could possibly throw at us o_o

[manic harbor]

I'm someone that won't cry at a sad movie

[earnest sedge]

Is there patch notes for 6.08

[prime niche]

not that i could see

[late aurora]

They get posted as the patch happens, as usual

[haughty crater]

we need to go back

[manic harbor]

Newgame+ is an option

[haughty crater]

would it be insane to replay the entire ew msq to get back to that one moment?

[manic harbor]

Yes

[indigo shale]

yeah, because usually newgame+ is split into chapters, but EW ng+ isnt out yet anyway so the only way to experience certain moments again is to replay it on another character

[haughty crater]

🥺

[rapid berry]

yes but that's because i'm insane and would totally do it

[rapid berry]

or rewatch the cutscenes in the inn

honestly if i could wipe my memory and replay the whole game to re-experience it for the first time, i would

[humble heron]

Theres quite a bit you cant replay at the inn

[indigo shale]

also no solo duties, or dialogue that isnt a cutscene, cant go to one time instances

the inn is just a more inconvenient youtube

[rapid berry]

ik you can replay that ||g'raha scene|| bec i did

[humble heron]

Yeah lol

[rapid berry]

i had to see what the other option makes them say

[half phoenix]

Not until a couple hours into the servers going down on Monday

[short edge]

Same. Love him uwu

[sudden spruce]

I just realized that the final map in amaurot dungeon, the reddish sky hanging above the world looks like ||the sky and general color scheme of ultima thule||

[late aurora]

I wonder why that might be...

Hmmm

[sudden spruce]

||birby is on a universal tour and is about to drop the beat on eitherys||

New game plus when

[vernal venture]

[Ending Stuff] || The more times I rewatch the scene before the final trial, the less i dislike Zenos.||